August 31, 2015

Hugenormous: Trump, Carson Tied for First in Iowa at 23%; Fiorina in Third at 10%
— Ace

Well we seem to have a tiny little rebellion against the Establishment/political class on our hands.

This is also the first poll in forever that doesn't have Trump in the lead. Well, he's in the lead, but in a tie.

The rest of the field:


Carly Fiorina 10%, Ted Cruz 9%, Scott Walker 7%, Jeb Bush 5%

John Kasich, Marco Rubio 4%, Rand Paul 3%, Mike Huckabee,Rick Santorum 2%

Oh but CNN is still employing an algorithm which will most likely keep Mick Huckabee in and kick Carly Fiorina out.

Monmouth University's press release about the poll can be seen here.

Posted by: Ace at 06:24 AM | Comments (690)
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1 Mornin' Ace.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 31, 2015 06:25 AM (WDySP)

2 Hah! There seems to be a glitch in the matrix.

Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 06:25 AM (lDfK8)

3 Walker needs to keep pressing that wall with Canada.


Us Canucks are apparently horrible tippers. Bast@ards.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 06:25 AM (AC0lD)

4 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 06:25 AM (q+zA9)

5 Burn, baby, burn!

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at August 31, 2015 06:27 AM (ElEyp)

6 Does this count as an enstompening? I can nnever keep those rules straight.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 06:27 AM (Wckf4)

7 Carly should get to sit at the big boys' table.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 06:28 AM (/Ho8c)

8 Go, Carly, Go!

Posted by: Blankety Blank So and So at August 31, 2015 06:28 AM (nFICN)

9 Lindsey Graham is out?!  Lindsey Graham is out?!?


Mon Dieu!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 31, 2015 06:28 AM (JO9+V)

10 Jeb Bush is at 5%? Well that was money well spent I suppose.

Posted by: Austin in TX at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (3cp3C)

11 11th?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (E5UB0)

12 Oh but CNN is still employing an algorithm which will most likely keep Mick HuckabeeJeb in and kick Carly Fiorina out.

FIFY

Posted by: Methos at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (ZbV+0)

13 Does anyone else think that Jim Gilmore looks . . . vampirish?

Posted by: Blankety Blank So and So at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (nFICN)

14 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (kff5f)

15 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (kff5f)

16 Wow, Scott Walker's saavy political instincts have him advocating for a wall with Canada? ahahahahaha

Posted by: bystanders at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (hKyl0)

17 11th? Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner

Such a courageous call.  How do you do it?

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (/Ho8c)

18 Methinks you just can't put your finger on the problem.

Doanld Trump and Hillary Clinton are each on the two opposite ends of the "Pay to Play" gambit that grifters in DC work with the political system.

Posted by: #TheCriminalHillaryClinton at August 31, 2015 06:29 AM (e8kgV)

19 ***"Walker needs to keep pressing that wall with Canada."*** Seriously, WTF is up with that? Between walling off those beflanneled Canadian hordes and that stupid stadium, on top of his embrace of corn subsidies and immigration squishiness, Walker is done done done to me.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 06:30 AM (Wckf4)

20 Jump on the short bus with Jeb!

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 31, 2015 06:30 AM (fFIVI)

21 Does this count as an enstompening? I can nnever keep those rules straight. Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 11:27 AM (Wckf4) Less than one hour between posts, so I think Magic Fun Ball would say "yes." It is Ace, however, and he just got up, so there is that.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:30 AM (JvPqF)

22 Also, I note Trump + Carson + Fiorina + Cruz + Paul = 68%

So 2/3 rejection of 'business as usual'

Posted by: Methos at August 31, 2015 06:31 AM (ZbV+0)

23 Wait, I thought the Wall in the North was supposed to keep a Walker out?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 31, 2015 06:31 AM (9krrF)

24 Heh. Eat it, GOP.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 06:31 AM (LA7Cm)

25 Walker: The Man with the Record that does not match the Man.  Very strange.

Posted by: Blankety Blank So and So at August 31, 2015 06:31 AM (nFICN)

26

won't the wall on the Canadian side keep the Canucks from bootlegging US beer and cheese?

 

or to put it another way, won't it stop Canadians from boosting stuff into Canada?

Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 06:32 AM (q+zA9)

27 At least Jeb and Rubio are going down in flames. I guess the polling doesn't include illegals? But where exactly does Carson stand on immigration? The fact that that has to be asked is a bad sign. I'd still prefer Trump. Has he got his head screwed on correctly wrt 2nd amendment?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 06:32 AM (E5UB0)

28 CNN is still employing an algorithm" Euphemism?

Posted by: That chicken joke again... at August 31, 2015 06:33 AM (C9pBZ)

29 If the Republicans had any morals and guts, they'd all just walk away from the CNN Debate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 06:33 AM (gf8BH)

30 It is Ace, however, and he just got up, so there is that. Posted by: filbert

Yes, and we should consider ourselves to be blessed with his kindness, patience, and generosity.  Ace (pbuh) is the bestest blogfather, to whom we owe all our New Civility comments, lest he smite us with the Banhammer of Righteousness.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 06:33 AM (/Ho8c)

31 Wow, Scott Walker's saavy political instincts have him advocating for a wall with Canada? - Saving us from the Frostback Peril.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 31, 2015 06:33 AM (fFIVI)

32 And the base is talking: NO MORE RINOs.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 06:33 AM (gf8BH)

33 Bwahahaha. I don't think Carson or Fiorina are *quite* the BID candidates that Trump is, but they'll do in a pinch.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 06:34 AM (kff5f)

34 O/T, but is there any chance we can ask the book promoters to promote their books on the book promotion thread, and not on any others? And I say that as a book promoter, myself.

Posted by: artemis at August 31, 2015 06:34 AM (AwPyG)

35 There was a national poll cited on Morning Joe that had Trump at maybe 23% and Carson at 18%. They were all "where did that come from?" As, frankly, was I. I did not anticipate the rise of the Carson. Still on Team Carly, though. If CNN doesn't change its algorithm I hope all of their relevant pollsters release new polls. We need the Carly.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 06:34 AM (JtwS4)

36 Kasich's low number doesn't surprise me. Isn't all of his focus on New Hampshire rather than Iowa?

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2015 06:34 AM (zt+N6)

37 "Seriously, WTF is up with that? " First Perry, then Walker. Stomping their private bits. Cruz was sideways there for a while but seems to have righted it out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 06:34 AM (LA7Cm)

38 If we can rustle up enough boxcars we won't need no stinkin' walls.

Posted by: Hank at August 31, 2015 06:35 AM (0Aqa7)

39 Wow, Scott Walker's saavy political instincts have him advocating for a wall with Canada? I did not hear in what context he said that or what he said exactly, but on it's face, that is one stupid statement

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 06:35 AM (gf8BH)

40 And the base is talking: NO MORE RINOs. Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 11:33 AM (gf8BH) Because the Base is only just figuring out: the "RINOs" *are* the Base. The "real" Republicans are the DOPe.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 06:35 AM (kff5f)

41 We need the Carly. Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 11:34 AM (JtwS4) Admit it. You're still fixated on that album cover.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 06:35 AM (aRgrb)

42 won't the wall on the Canadian side keep the Canucks from bootlegging US beer and cheese?

Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 11:32 AM (q+zA9)



Most of us really don't want your beer.


But it is nice to know that Canadians, CANADIANS!! are the great cause of most of America's problems.


Trump is so far ahead because he's at least identifying the problems and he's generally in the ballpark.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 06:36 AM (AC0lD)

43 Not voting Republican. Its liberating! But I still like Bobby Jindal.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2015 06:36 AM (r65B3)

44 Wow, Scott Walker's saavy political instincts have him advocating for a wall with Canada? I haven't seen it either, but one of the Morons has said that it was posed as a hypothetical question and he just said, "Yeah, it should be looked at." Which is not entirely *wrong* but misses the point entirely.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 06:36 AM (kff5f)

45 Jesus, Colmes has his head all the way up Fredo's ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 06:36 AM (gf8BH)

46 And, apparently, the empire is planning to strike back. The elites intend to launch a hugenormous ad onslaught against Trump after Labor Day. http://tinyurl.com/oayctzj Or you can accept Rove's cognitively dissonant version that all the Trump support is just "silliness."

Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 06:36 AM (s/yC1)

47 I like Carly and Ben. 

Posted by: Mike at August 31, 2015 06:37 AM (ylrkv)

48 Wow, three non-pols.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2015 06:37 AM (2Ocf1)

49 Still did not like Carly Fiorina's discussion of Amnesty on the Podcast. Establishment Mealy-mouthed garbage.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2015 06:37 AM (zt+N6)

50 There's no way any of this ends well. My prediction? Pain.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 31, 2015 06:37 AM (evdj2)

51 ***"But where exactly does Carson stand on immigration? The fact that that has to be asked is a bad sign. I'd still prefer Trump. Has he got his head screwed on correctly wrt 2nd amendment?"*** Last I saw on Carson on immigration is that he's wavered back and forth on Secure the Border/Path to Citizenship. He doesn't seem to have a solid policy on it yet, even at this stage. Which leads me to believe he's being a little GOPish there. Last I saw on his 2A stance was that people in cities shouldn't have semi-automatic weapons or some such silly bullshit. Again, vague, poorly considered stances on another key issue. There's a local group of Carson supporters getting together in a couple of weeks and I'm thinking about showing up to see if they've even considered this stuff or have any clarifying info.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 06:37 AM (Wckf4)

52 CNN is a joke. Why we give up control to these msm aholes beats me. On a lighter note, Brit architects and engineers have the greatest names: Isambard Kingdom Brunel Inigo Jones

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 06:37 AM (iQIUe)

53 Let's see . . . Trump/Carson '16. Majority Leader Cruz. House Speaker . . . uh . . . Meadows? The guy who filed the motion to throw out Boehner? Maybe THEN something could get "done." And by "done" I mean real cuts to Leviathan before it chokes us all. Oh, and get a wall built/re-build the military. Looks like we're gonna need it.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:37 AM (JvPqF)

54 Wow. Rick Perry. What happened?

Posted by: Mike at August 31, 2015 06:38 AM (ylrkv)

55 And, apparently, the empire is planning to strike back. The elites intend to launch a hugenormous ad onslaught against Trump after Labor Day. It will only backfire on them to Trump and Cruz's benefit. The R Elite are as tone deaf as they come

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 06:38 AM (gf8BH)

56 Mt. Denali!!!!!

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 06:38 AM (J9rqz)

57 There's no way any of this ends well. My prediction? Pain. Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 31, 2015 11:37 AM (evdj2) Popcorn. Butter and salt.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:38 AM (JvPqF)

58 The 'wall with Canada is a legitimate issue' article is in the news dump below at the "Sigh" link.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 06:38 AM (AC0lD)

59 42 won't the wall on the Canadian side keep the Canucks from bootlegging US beer and cheese? Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 11:32 AM (q+zA9) We get to keep Shania Twain, don't we?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at August 31, 2015 06:39 AM (Ixjtz)

60 Re: Carson, go back to the debate.  His first couple of answers were middling (didn't like the tithing silliness, but whatever), but his last three or four answers were awesome.  And then I watch the talking heads say his performance sucked except for his final statement.  And then I read a WSJ article which addressed every single debate participant EXCEPT Carson.  When are we going to learn that "experts" know jack squat?

Posted by: Blankety Blank So and So at August 31, 2015 06:39 AM (nFICN)

61 Ben Carson ... At the age when Barack Obama was being paid by two Catholic guys to organize a community in Chicago (poorly, e.g. Atgeld) .... Ben Carson was director of a Johns Hopkins medical department.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2015 06:39 AM (0MJOU)

62 We need the Carly. Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 11:34 AM (JtwS4) Admit it. You're still fixated on that album cover. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon *shifty eyes* What? Oh, oh of course I am. Jeez, I was like 12 or 14. Some things are an eternal source of warm and fuzzies.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 06:39 AM (JtwS4)

63 ***"First Perry, then Walker. Stomping their private bits. Cruz was sideways there for a while but seems to have righted it out."*** Agreed. That's why my short list is basically just him...for now.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 06:39 AM (Wckf4)

64 We have always been at war with French Canadia.

Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 06:39 AM (rruf1)

65 Establishment Mealy-mouthed garbage You mean that Carly from H(1b)P would dissemble about immigration?

Posted by: GMan at August 31, 2015 06:39 AM (sxq57)

66 Posted by: Ace at 11:24 AM Threadwinner! Posted by the bestest Blogfather there is, Don Ace.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 06:40 AM (E9ede)

67 Is CNN still on the air? Why the hell would Prince Rebus agree to a debate on a channel that gets toilet ratings on a good night. If he is going to allow this debate I hope he charges CNN a shitload of money since their ratings will be more than 10X normal...

Posted by: Timon at August 31, 2015 06:40 AM (ZDJwC)

68 1. Walker did not "advocate" for a wall on the Canadian border, which anybody with two functioning brains cells could tell by actually listening to the words that came out of his mouth on MtP yesterday.  Saying he dis is outright lying, which is why the media say he did.  Why people who ought to know better on this board keep repeating that lie is...interesting.

2. It is in the MSM/DNC interest to keep promoting political novices instead of the overall very-deep field of legitimate candidates.  For one thing, it is entertaining and this is 31 August, 15 months before the election and "entertaining" always wins over "serious."  For another, the longer it takes for a legitimate candidate to gain significant support, the easier it is for the guy with the most money (Bush) who the MSM/DNC want to be the nominee to actually be the nominee.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 06:40 AM (ljZD2)

69 CNN is a joke. Why we give up control to these msm aholes beats me. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 11:37 AM (iQIUe) It's the GOP, Jake.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 06:40 AM (s/yC1)

70 And, apparently, the empire is planning to strike back. The elites intend to launch a hugenormous ad onslaught against Trump after Labor Day. It will only backfire on them to Trump and Cruz's benefit. The R Elite are as tone deaf as they come Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 11:38 AM (gf8BH) I still assert the only effective way to attack Trump is to ignore the hell out of him. Any attention you give him, he's able to multiply ("like a laser!!!") and shoot out a hundred-fold to blast, well, pretty much everybody.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:40 AM (JvPqF)

71 My campaign is not dead.

Posted by: Rick Perry at August 31, 2015 06:40 AM (HstNY)

72 Wow.  If you total all four of the establishmentey candidates, you only have 20% of the vote.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 31, 2015 06:41 AM (UypUQ)

73

Very happy Fiorina is showing some comparatively strong numbers, even though it seems CNN is intent on advancing the Dem's 'War On Women' bullshitastic campaign theme by keeping Fiorina in the second tier debates--and no, I'm not being paranoid, thanks.  You know I'm right.

 

Unmitigated delight at seeing Jeb! dwindling into well-deserved insignificance.  Can only hope some of the big money donors bankrolling Bush's campaign are now unable to buy that summer place in the Hamptons as a result.  Bastards.

Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 06:41 AM (XHR9b)

74 So the establishment is at...17%? Bush, Kaisch, Rubio, Huckabee, Santorum (the last only kind of establisment) Also, what is wrong with Walker? He should be running a much, much better campaign. Heck, here is some advice...put together a task force to arrest the guys behind the John Doe investigations.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 06:41 AM (5LOno)

75 34 O/T, but is there any chance we can ask the book promoters to promote their books on the book promotion thread, and not on any others? And I say that as a book promoter, myself. Posted by: artemis --------------------------- How about i promote Screw you, Go away, Asshat? It's nothe a book - just my feelings about Hall Monitors.

Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 06:41 AM (lDfK8)

76 Mt. Denali!!!!! Climb Mt. Denali. Repeat. Climb Mt. Denali.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 06:41 AM (E9ede)

77 Well, the Northern Barrier Wall should do good work in protecting us from the Vast Canuckian Poutine Conspiracy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2015 06:42 AM (TuXs5)

78 Carson and Fiorina hired the only Republican political consultants that aren't complete fucking idiots.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at August 31, 2015 06:42 AM (XA5Vk)

79 I don't buy Carson doing much beyond a caucus win and maybe some outlier state win. But I think in the past he'd have been a good choice for Surgeon General or something like that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 06:42 AM (39g3+)

80 Walker needs to keep pressing that wall with Canada. Us Canucks are apparently horrible tippers. Bast@ards. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 11:25 AM (AC0lD) ---- You're not seriously buying that MSM spin, are you? It was F. Chuck Todd who suggested the wall, all Walker said boarder security is an issue. He did NOT say we needed to build a Canadian wall.

Posted by: Wisrich at August 31, 2015 06:42 AM (hdpay)

81 Walker is about as good at it gets in governing, but can't campaign


He's the Herbert Hoover / Tom Dewey of his era.  Congrats, Scott--one out of two isn't good enough


meanwhile, Carson is Trump Light  ( I hate you, GOPe, but politely )

Posted by: himself at August 31, 2015 06:42 AM (8CdUx)

82
Some pulls from the press release:

Among voters who say their current decision is strongly locked in, Trump leads with 30%, compared to 22% for Carson. Among those who say they only have a slight preference or are up in the air, 25% support Carson and 16% back Trump.

Iowa Republicans now hold an almost universally positive opinion of Ben Carson at 81% favorable to just 6% unfavorable. Bushs rating is now 32% favorable and 51% unfavorable.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 06:42 AM (kdS6q)

83 54 Wow. Rick Perry. What happened? Posted by: Mike at August 31, 2015 11:38 AM (ylrkv) Three things. 1.) Hired Steve Schmidt 2.) Hired Steve Schmidt I forget the third.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at August 31, 2015 06:42 AM (vgIRn)

84 My campaign is not dead. Posted by: Rick Perry at August 31, 2015 11:40 AM (HstNY) Rick Parrot?

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:42 AM (JvPqF)

85 At the age when Barack Obama was being paid by two Catholic guys to organize a community in Chicago (poorly, e.g. Atgeld) .... Ben Carson was director of a Johns Hopkins medical department. ___ Carson is totally in the trace only because he is black. Well...technically black...but not really.

Posted by: The State Media at August 31, 2015 06:43 AM (5LOno)

86 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 11:40 AM (ljZD2) Wow! Gaining some the spin back, now. 1604 RPM on the AOP tachometer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 06:43 AM (aRgrb)

87 So how are those attacks on Trump working out for you, Rick Perry?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 06:43 AM (75uvI)

88 If an establishment GOPe candidate is nominated I'll sit out the election and then watch as Billary continues the ruination of our country. A couple of SCOTUS appointments will be the final nails in the coffin.

Posted by: Hank at August 31, 2015 06:43 AM (0Aqa7)

89 Would Carson bring the black vote? I don't think so

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2015 06:43 AM (R8hU8)

90 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 11:40 AM (ljZD2) I'm begging you, with tears in my eyes.. Just. Stop.

Posted by: The Chicken at August 31, 2015 06:44 AM (Wckf4)

91 Interesting that Carson is rising despite not getting much MSM coverage - it's all Trump, Trump, Trump!!

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 06:44 AM (NOIQH)

92 Carson has a lot to recommend him, and his previous statements about solutions to the ACA problem are excellent, IMHO.  Immigration policy and 2A positions are very troublesome for me.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 06:44 AM (/Ho8c)

93 Also, what is wrong with Walker? He should be running a much, much better campaign. I dunno, I think he's taking his time, since its not even 2016 and we're, what, 5 months from the first election? Campaigns are expensive. He is making some odd statements though, pointlessly so. Fiorina I think is only going to get stronger. She speaks very well, says things people are wanting to hear, handles interviews and ambushes very well, stays on message, and seems very capable. I could see her in the top 5.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 06:44 AM (39g3+)

94 It will only backfire on them to Trump and Cruz's benefit. Yeah, that was another interesting thing from this morning's MJ. They counted Cruz in the anti-establishment camp. When you add up the poll numbers for the top 4 outsiders (Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Cruz) they are twice that of the top 4 establishment candidates. Because something is happening here and you don't know what it is, do you Mr. Jones?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 06:44 AM (JtwS4)

95 What kind of dead animal is on Trumps head

Posted by: Righter at August 31, 2015 06:44 AM (2u0vC)

96 It's those muscle relaxants again. I swear it.

Posted by: Rick Perry, Former GOP Presidential Candidate at August 31, 2015 06:44 AM (75uvI)

97
And link to the press release with more numbers:

[pdf] http://t.co/EthLsnWMHZ

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 06:44 AM (kdS6q)

98 Would Carson bring the black vote?
I don't think so Posted by: Velvet Ambition


I think he would be seen as an "Uncle Tom," so probably not.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 06:45 AM (/Ho8c)

99 Kasich = Bush Light.  The beer for those who don't know what they like

Posted by: himself at August 31, 2015 06:45 AM (8CdUx)

100 What kind of dead animal is on Trumps head Posted by: Righter

It's some kind of weasel.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 06:45 AM (/Ho8c)

101 i like cruz, carson, carly and donald

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 06:45 AM (0O7c5)

102 Or you can accept Rove's cognitively dissonant version that all the Trump support is just "silliness." Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 11:36 AM (s/yC1) If they attack him it'll backfire.

Posted by: Timon at August 31, 2015 06:45 AM (ZDJwC)

103 Also if Bush slides off the table, as seems likely, Fiorina might get a pretty sizable amount of his donors. It is certainly getting harder and harder to justify leaving her out of the main debate. But really, debates now? Already?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 06:45 AM (39g3+)

104 "If you play with fire you get burnt. It's not any secret, is it ?" she said when asked if the gang took advantage of her.

In "Reckless," [Pretenders singer Chrissie] Hynde recounts the assault, saying she was forced to perform sex acts on members of the biker gang after they promised to take her to a party. Instead they took her to an abandoned house and assaulted her. During the Sunday Times interview, Hynde spoke at length about rape.

"If I'm walking around and I'm very modestly dressed and I'm keeping to myself and someone attacks me, then I'd say that's his fault," she explained.

"If you're wearing something that says 'Come and fu*k me,' you'd better be good on your feet ... I don't think I'm saying anything controversial am I ?"

Posted by: Trayvon Martin at August 31, 2015 06:45 AM (e8kgV)

105 Here is a hypothesis: Most people didn't really support Carson because they didn't think he could actually win (me included). He seems great on the issues, but is way too soft-spoken to be good in politics--or so it is thought. Perhaps people are now realizing that he actually *could* win, and we could see an overton window type shift in support of him? I mean, this hypothesis is probably wrong, but a guy can hope, right?

Posted by: dan-O at August 31, 2015 06:45 AM (ByqK7)

106 Heck, here is some advice...put together a task force to arrest the guys behind the John Doe investigations. Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 11:41 AM (5LOno) Can't understand his relative silence on this issue. Should be drum-beating it.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 06:46 AM (s/yC1)

107 So the establishment is at...17%? Bush, Kaisch, Rubio, Huckabee, Santorum (the last only kind of establisment)

Also, what is wrong with Walker? He should be running a much, much better campaign. Heck, here is some advice...put together a task force to arrest the guys behind the John Doe investigations.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 11:41 AM (5LOno)


You don't consider Walker establishment?  He may not be their first choice, but I don't believe they'd have a freak out if he ended up being the nominee.  He's pretty much a "safe" pick for the general.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 31, 2015 06:46 AM (UypUQ)

108 He's the Herbert Hoover / Tom Dewey of his era. *** Hoover was terrible at governing. His response to an economic downturn was massively increasing government interference in the economy...which caused the great depression. Just because FDR was worse doesn't excuse what Hoover did...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 06:46 AM (5LOno)

109 What kind of dead animal is on Trumps head Posted by: Righter at August 31, 2015 11:44 AM (2u0vC) What kind do you like?

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:46 AM (JvPqF)

110 I'm the son of a son of a postman, you know.

Posted by: John Kasich at August 31, 2015 06:46 AM (W5DcG)

111 Department of Energy!

Posted by: Rick Perry! at August 31, 2015 06:47 AM (nFICN)

112 What kind of dead animal is on Trumps head Posted by: Righter It's some kind of weasel. Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 11:45 AM (/Ho8c) Beat me to it ya bastard!

Posted by: Timon at August 31, 2015 06:47 AM (ZDJwC)

113 1. Walker did not "advocate" for a wall on the Canadian border, which anybody with two functioning brains cells could tell by actually listening to the words that came out of his mouth on MtP yesterday.



Why would Walker even call it a 'legitimate issue?' Take a stand, call the questioner out as a stupid idiot, point out the real issue is illegal immigrants pouring through Mexico and hammer home those points.



If you can't rule out a wall with Canada as bullcrap, maybe you're not the clear headed thinker the country needs.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 06:47 AM (AC0lD)

114 Wow. Rick Perry. What happened? Posted by: Mike at August 31, 2015 11:38 AM (ylrkv) Three things. 1.) Hired Steve Schmidt 2.) Hired Steve Schmidt I forget the third. Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at August 31, 2015 11:42 AM (vgIRn) The glasses, He has to lose the glasses

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 06:47 AM (gf8BH)

115 What kind of dead animal is on Trumps head Posted by: Righter at August 31, 2015 11:44 AM (2u0vC) It's some variety of weasel. /AoS Style Manual

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2015 06:47 AM (TuXs5)

116 My evil twin brother Mike is a total douche.
Vote for me instead.

Posted by: Mick Huckabee at August 31, 2015 06:47 AM (nyxv/)

117 I'm the son of a son of a postman, you know. Posted by: John Kasich at August 31, 2015 11:46 AM (W5DcG) That sounds like a line from a bad '70's singer-songwriter song.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:47 AM (JvPqF)

118
So how are those attacks on Trump working out for you, Rick Perry?
Posted by: Cicero



At 1% in this poll -- and they don't even ask the extended question set about him anymore.

Perry/Buzzion 2016

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 06:47 AM (kdS6q)

119 Drew's post was from like 10:30... how is this an enstompening?

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 06:48 AM (dciA+)

120 Ronald Raven wept.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 31, 2015 06:48 AM (evdj2)

121 "Three things. 1.) Hired Steve Schmidt 2.) Hired Steve Schmidt I forget the third." Oops....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 06:48 AM (LA7Cm)

122 I finally listened to the podcast with Carly yesterday. I am perfectly happy with the three of them garnering a combined 56% of the vote right now. More then happy...I'm delighted.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 06:48 AM (VPLuQ)

123 Oh, you want a WALL? I'm gonna need more skulls . . .

Posted by: Scott Walker at August 31, 2015 06:48 AM (JvPqF)

124 I'm throwing my (considerable) support behind the Pander Bear Party! They told me EXACTLY what I wanted to hear.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (VAsIq)

125 "I dunno, I think he's taking his time, since its not even 2016 and we're, what, 5 months from the first election? Campaigns are expensive. He is making some odd statements though, pointlessly so."

He definitely had some missteps this past month.  Better to have them in August of the year before than in August of 2016, though.

I still think the best thing to have done was to ignore Trump completely.  To the extent that he gets back to being just who he is and talking about what he wants t do, that's better. 

The national security speech at the Citadel was strong.  All his press interviews this past week have been fine. 

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (ljZD2)

126 Iowa, blue State.  We are finally interring September.  About the middle of the month (or maybe later) these polls may mean something when they hit States that are red.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (t2KH5)

127 Interesting that Carson is rising despite not getting much MSM coverage - it's all Trump, Trump, Trump!! *** The State Media can deal with a rich white guy leading the R ticket. A black neurosurgeon who doesn't like abortion though? That's not the old, white, racist, plutocrat, science denying candidate the state media wants...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (5LOno)

128 83 54 Wow. Rick Perry. What happened? Posted by: Mike at August 31, 2015 11:38 AM (ylrkv) Three things. 1.) Hired Steve Schmidt 2.) Hired Steve Schmidt I forget the third. Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at August 31, 2015 11:42 AM (vgIRn) 3. PROFIT!

Posted by: Underpants Political Consultant at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (qh617)

129 Would Carson bring the black vote?

I don't think so Posted by: Velvet Ambition
-----

Carson would bring a bunch of conservative black men.  Romney got like 400% more black men than he did women.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (UypUQ)

130 What kind of dead animal is on Trumps head Posted by: Righter at August 31, 2015 11:44 AM (2u0vC) What kind do you like? Posted by: filbert Slow golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (E9ede)

131 Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 11:45 AM (/Ho8c) Damn you. DAAAAAMNNNNN YOUUUUUUU!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (TuXs5)

132 Lindsey Graham is out?! Lindsey Graham is out?!? ------------ Oh, MY!

Posted by: George Takei at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (9mTYi)

133 The only Denali I've known of is a GMC product. Hey... Government Motors... Changing names... Wheels within wheels

Posted by: nnptcgrad at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (LFN5z)

134 Brother cavil: Threadwinner!!!! Carson hasn't left iowa for weeks, so not unexpected. I cannot think of one issue carson has brought up? Anyone? Nice guy for surgeon general or va head. Carly? She'll still have her old job waiting for her at the NRSC after this is over. What an "outsider". Lol Trump answered the carly/debate controversy perfectly. He'd like to see her on stage, but criteria was established months ago folks, this is not some anti-carly conspiracy by cnn/rnc.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 06:49 AM (VMZsK)

135 I love reading stuff like this.  Deep down, in places they don't talk about at parties, Democrats wish their party was like this.  Wish it had diversity and a plethora of candidates.  Wished they could push back against their establishment the way Trump and conservatives are doing.


Instead, they are falling in line with Hillary.

Posted by: MacGruber at August 31, 2015 06:50 AM (S+el1)

136 okay, 18-1 and other Hoover-haters: 


Herb was probably the best admin guy ever at the national level, but was prez in an era before the prez had much power.  Then events overcame him.........

Posted by: himself at August 31, 2015 06:50 AM (8CdUx)

137 10:30 to 11:24 is less then an hour. More like a minor technical foul, more then a major violation. Plus, you own the Blog. It's cool.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 06:50 AM (VPLuQ)

138 BTW, saw and article this morning that said money donors  were dropping out on Jebbie The Hut in droves because he has no popular support.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at August 31, 2015 06:50 AM (t2KH5)

139 Herbert Hoover was the first Compassionate Conservative.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 31, 2015 06:50 AM (evdj2)

140 I believe the type of weasel gracing the Trump dome is the Shitweasel.

Posted by: Hank at August 31, 2015 06:50 AM (0Aqa7)

141 Saw on Breitbart, "Stump for Trump" girls... pretty interesting. Gotta confess, the sideshow has moved me from the "take him down" crowd to the "let's see what he can do."

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 06:50 AM (J9rqz)

142 Well, actually 10:37 - 11:24. But still minor.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (VPLuQ)

143 Oh but CNN is still employing an algorithm which will most likely keep Mick Huckabee in and kick Carly Fiorina out.


Is that for their fake debates?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (t2KH5)

144 Drew's post was from like 10:30... how is this an enstompening? Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 11:48 AM (dciA+) Morning, Ace! It's either talking about the enstompening, or talking about Trump. Or going back to DrewM's thread and bitchin' 'bout The Man. You know. The usual.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (JvPqF)

145 You don't consider Walker establishment? *** No. I agree the GOPe would like him better then Trump, Cruz or Carson though. It is tough for the GOPe here, because Walker seems all weak and moderate in his campaign...but he actually did something of note as governor...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (5LOno)

146 "We are finally interring September." Posted by: Vic at August 31, 2015 11:49 AM (t2KH5) September died? At least Buzzion will have company.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (aRgrb)

147 Drew's post was from like 10:30... how is this an enstompening? Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 11:48 AM (dciA+) Because, Morons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (TuXs5)

148 So when will squalling Boner call Ben Carson an asshole. That might well put him in the lead.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (xWW96)

149 Trump went down on a lady with a merkin and it got stuck.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (iQIUe)

150 Wow. Rick Perry. What happened? -------------------- Stepped on his weenie.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 06:51 AM (9mTYi)

151 It would be more interesting to see Carson rise somewhere other than Iowa. Iowa never picks winners.

Posted by: Old Hob at August 31, 2015 06:52 AM (ZufZo)

152 ***"Drew's post was from like 10:30... how is this an enstompening?"*** Was just funnin'.

Posted by: The Chicken at August 31, 2015 06:52 AM (Wckf4)

153 110 I'm the son of a son of a postman, you know. Posted by: John Kasich at August 31, 2015 11:46 AM (W5DcG) Did he always ring twice?

Posted by: BB Wolf at August 31, 2015 06:52 AM (qh617)

154 I'm gonna need bigger glasses.

Posted by: Rick Perry! at August 31, 2015 06:52 AM (nFICN)

155 You're not seriously buying that MSM spin, are you? It was F. Chuck Todd who suggested the wall, all Walker said boarder security is an issue. He did NOT say we needed to build a Canadian wall.

Posted by: Wisrich at August 31, 2015 11:42 AM (hdpay)


It was a 'gotcha' question that Walker failed.


It was reported up here as 'he wants a wall with Canada' as it will be mentioned in the US press to discredit Walker as stupid.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 06:53 AM (AC0lD)

156 Saw on Breitbart, "Stump for Trump" girls -------------- Strumpets?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 06:53 AM (9mTYi)

157 I love reading stuff like this. Deep down, in places they don't talk about at parties, Democrats wish their party was like this. Wish it had diversity and a plethora of candidates. Wished they could push back against their establishment the way Trump and conservatives are doing. Instead, they are falling in line with Hillary. Posted by: MacGruber at August 31, 2015 11:50 AM (S+el1) I've had the thought that the Republicans have become what the Democrats used to be, when Will Rogers said "I'm not a member of any organized party; I'm a Democrat."

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:53 AM (JvPqF)

158 I'm the son of a son of a postman, you know. Posted by: John Kasich Studies* show 1/4 of the people born in the 50s were sired by the postman or the milkman. Not really a ringing endorsement. *These studies exist solely in Hollywood writers' heads, but are still valuable

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 31, 2015 06:53 AM (VAsIq)

159 I still would pay money to see a debate show-down between Carly and Hillary. She crucified Hillary regarding her comments comparing GOP to terrorists, her email/servers, and Benghazi this weekend.

Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2015 06:53 AM (oiNtH)

160 " "let's see what he can do." The guy's producing and he's pissing D.C. off at the same time. Ding....and ding.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 06:53 AM (LA7Cm)

161 Jeb Bush 5% 'n' Marco Rubio 4% Faptastic.

Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 06:54 AM (jWtyG)

162 25 Walker: The Man with the Record that does not match the Man. Very strange. Posted by: Blankety Blank So and So at August 31, 2015 11:31 AM (nFICN) Very. How do you go from being wobbly on immigration to something as stupid as a wall on the fucking Canadian border? Whaaaaat?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 31, 2015 06:54 AM (yMVjf)

163 Herb was probably the best admin guy ever at the national level, but was prez in an era before the prez had much power. Then events overcame him *** Signed Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act Doubled federal spending Created the Reconstruction Finance Corporation

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 06:54 AM (5LOno)

164 I thought there would be no math here

Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 06:54 AM (q+zA9)

165 well the number I shoot for is a :45 minute gap... if it gets to be over an hour, I feel like it's been too long; at an hour and twenty minutes, it's way too long. If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 06:54 AM (dciA+)

166 10:30 to 11:24 is less then an hour. More like a minor technical foul, more then a major violation. More like 2 psi.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 06:54 AM (E9ede)

167 "point out the real issue is illegal immigrants pouring through Mexico"

Real issue for whom?

If your concern is Islamic radicalism and the potential for "plants" in this country, Mexico isn't where you focus your attention, visa overstays and states bordering Ontario and Quebec are.  Because that's how Muslim immigrants come into this country, through the airport and from Canada. 

Over half of illegals in this country are not Mexicans.  40% are visa overstays. 

Tell me again what the "real issue" for the loudest anti-illegal voices in the media and on social media is, again?

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 06:54 AM (ljZD2)

168 Yeah, I suggest book promotions hold off for the book threads, or maybe content light open threads, or at least be free downloads for Morons!

Posted by: Kevin C at August 31, 2015 06:54 AM (dEA2d)

169 Rick Perry just breaks my heart. He is, to all outside appearances, an idiot.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 31, 2015 06:55 AM (evdj2)

170
Hmmm... looking at the numbers.

Of the top 9, the only one with a negative Favorable/Unfavorable ratio is !Jeb! -- and by a lot.  Everyone else is safely positive.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 06:55 AM (kdS6q)

171 10 Jeb Bush is at 5%?

Well that was money well spent I suppose.


Very well spent.  The big money donors thought they were buying Secretariat, but ended up with BabaLouie.  That's a bunch of donors who don't now have the cash for another squish, while they've emboldened their opposition.

Posted by: pep at August 31, 2015 06:55 AM (GMG6W)

172 If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. Posted by: ace If it's 4 hours, you are cheating on us with that whore, Twitter.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 06:55 AM (E9ede)

173 Career politicians are being rejected. Their supporters keep screaming about policy, which is futile as people don't care about policy anymore. Why? Because career politicians have lied about their policies and what they will do if elected for too long. Career politicians have destroyed policy as a reason to vote for a candidate. And career politicians and their supporters have only themselves to blame. This isn't about Trump, or Carson or Carly. It's much larger.

Posted by: Nevermore at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (1Y+hH)

174 I'm calling it right now, there is going to be a Trump-Cruz ticket. And I'm also saying that the polls are underestimating Trump's support by at least ten points. This is not the election of the "likely voter."

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (VMZsK)

175 Deep down, in places they don't talk about at parties, Democrats wish their party was like this. Posted by: MacGruber at August 31, 2015 11:50 AM (S+el1) I'm not sure about this. I don't think they give a shite about diversity. I think they just want a tyrant.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (s/yC1)

176 Why would Walker even call it a 'legitimate issue?' Take a stand, call the questioner out as a stupid idiot, point out the real issue is illegal immigrants pouring through Mexico and hammer home those points. It was the politic thing to say, its the kind of thing politicians say all day long to all sorts of lunatics to make them go away and seem polite, and is ignored by the press until this sort of time. It was a pretty miniscule and minor flub, if that. He didn't take the opportunity to make it a better point for himself, which is what Trump and Fiorina do, and that was his failing. "If you're wearing something that says 'Come and fu*k me,' you'd better be good on your feet ... I don't think I'm saying anything controversial am I ?" No Chrissy its not. No woman is responsible or to blame for being raped, but some are incredibly unwise in how they behave and dress. Its always wrong to attack some woman or molest her unwanted but if you're going to dress or act like you want it to happen, you clearly weren't thinking this through very well. Like that movie The Accused. She was acting trashy and dressed kinda slutty and coming on to the guys. So they came on. They should have stopped when she didn't like it but she was getting the reaction her behavior clearly advertised she wanted. Some women seem to want to be able to act and look any way they want without consequence or reasonable response like those idiotic feminists running around topless then demanding nobody look at their tits.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (39g3+)

177 ***"It was a 'gotcha' question that Walker failed."*** Yeah, an experienced politician - which I'm given to understand is a prerequisite and also something which qualifies Walker - would have been able to turn that around easily as a joke to make the questioner look like a fool. Cruz and Fiorina really seem to be the only two candidates who possess this skill.

Posted by: The Chicken at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (Wckf4)

178 158 I'm the son of a son of a postman, you know. Posted by: John Kasich Studies* show 1/4 of the people born in the 50s were sired by the postman or the milkman. Not really a ringing endorsement. *These studies exist solely in Hollywood writers' heads, but are still valuable Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 31, 2015 11:53 AM (VAsIq) Could be worse. Could be the cable guy or the pizza man. Oh wait, they "pull out." Well at least according to porn.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (zt+N6)

179 161 Jeb Bush 5% 'n' Marco Rubio 4% Faptastic. Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (jWtyG) Hell.... more people believe Elvis is still alive...

Posted by: BB Wolf at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (qh617)

180 Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (5LOno)


Perhaps you are unaware of what Herb did before becoming prez? 

Posted by: himself at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (8CdUx)

181 Strumpets is pretty good... until you see who the girls are. :-)

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 06:56 AM (J9rqz)

182 Is Walker taking campaign tips from Perry? Jeebus.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (oDCMR)

183 well the number I shoot for is a :45 minute gap... if it gets to be over an hour, I feel like it's been too long; at an hour and twenty minutes, it's way too long. If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (dciA+) (scribbles furiously in margins of dog-eared copy of the Style Guide . . .)

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (JvPqF)

184 If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. So when we're up to 900 posts and we're re-fighting the War of Southern Recalcitrance can you at least tell us if you've leveled up? (or whatever describes in game achievements)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (JtwS4)

185 Trump and Cruz seem to have something going on.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (xWW96)

186 My gut feeling... trump doesn't get the nod, nor does Carson.... Other than that I don't have a clue what will happen....

Posted by: donna at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (hUdMz)

187 I think they just want a tyrant. ___ We prefer first citizen.

Posted by: The Left at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (5LOno)

188 50% of the crimes in this country are committed by the McKenzie brothers. We must keep them out, eh?

Posted by: Scott Walker at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (E5UB0)

189 Trumpetdaddy reminds us that half the illegal problem can be solved with a wall. So he's all in for Trump!! Lol

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (VMZsK)

190 Once Carson's 2A views start getting talked about (and there's a reason they're not being talked about by the MSM) he's done. When talking about him, it's almost an academic exercise.

What are Trumps 2A creds, BTW?

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 06:57 AM (XiVKO)

191 "If it's 4 hours, you took that blue pill again, and you are cheating on us with that whore, Twitter.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 06:58 AM (VPLuQ)

192 You know, when you win Iowa, you win the nomination.


It's a lock!

Posted by: The Huckester, Huck at August 31, 2015 06:58 AM (0FSuD)

193 165 well the number I shoot for is a :45 minute gap... if it gets to be over an hour, I feel like it's been too long; at an hour and twenty minutes, it's way too long. If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (dciA+) Threadwinner! Why don't you take the rest of the week off ace? Can't get much better than that.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2015 06:58 AM (zt+N6)

194 Rick Perry just breaks my heart. ----------- Yes. Dammit. Me too. I had to have the tattoo removed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 06:58 AM (9mTYi)

195 I'm not sure about this. I don't think they give a shite about diversity. I think they just want a tyrant. Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 11:56 AM (s/yC1) They want Daddy to come and make it all better.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 06:58 AM (JvPqF)

196 "Jeb Bush is at 5%?" I guess that aura of inevitability turned about to be just an aura.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 06:58 AM (s/yC1)

197
JEB, we hardly knew yu.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 31, 2015 06:59 AM (OiFtZ)

198 ***Tell me again what the "real issue" for the loudest anti-illegal voices in the media and on social media is, again? Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (ljZD2)*** You've been told over and over and over. That you either can't or won't acknowledge such well-known arguments is your problem.

Posted by: The Chicken at August 31, 2015 06:59 AM (Wckf4)

199 What are Trumps 2A creds, BTW? Posted by: Chupacabras He has a CHL. In NYC.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 06:59 AM (E9ede)

200 Perhaps you are unaware of what Herb did before becoming prez? *** What does that have to do with what he actually did as President? Much like Romney I'd have hired Hoover to run my business/charity operation. But keep both away from the reins of government...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 06:59 AM (5LOno)

201 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (ljZD2) Very impressive. Conflating muslim terrorists with illegal aliens. That rates you 2680 RPM on the old tachometer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 06:59 AM (aRgrb)

202 I have not yet begun to flop!

Posted by: Jebbish at August 31, 2015 06:59 AM (1Y+hH)

203

look, walling off the southern border sends a message.

 

walling off the northern border is the same as TSA searching 75yo lutherans in North Dakota.  The cost/bennifit never works out 

 

Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 06:59 AM (q+zA9)

204 173 Career politicians are being rejected. Their supporters keep screaming about policy, which is futile as people don't care about policy anymore. Why? Because career politicians have lied about their policies and what they will do if elected for too long. Career politicians have destroyed policy as a reason to vote for a candidate. And career politicians and their supporters have only themselves to blame. This isn't about Trump, or Carson or Carly. It's much larger. Posted by: Nevermore at August 31, 2015 11:56 AM (1Y+hH) ^^^^!

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 31, 2015 06:59 AM (yMVjf)

205 68: "Why people who ought to know better on this board keep repeating that lie is...interesting." Yep, I suspect that a lot of these new commenters here, whose names I never saw before a month ago, and who to-a-man are big Trump boosters, are maybe not fully on the up-and-up. I think a lot of people here are being played. But there's a silver lining: After Trump wins the general, and he either wins (and governs as the liberal Democrat that he actually is), or he loses (to Joe F'n Biden, once the press removes the kid gloves with which they're currently handling Trump), I can come back here and dole out great assholish heaping helpings of "I told you so".

Posted by: Pastafarian at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (LqrRo)

206 50% of the crimes in this country are committed by the McKenzie brothers. We must keep them out, eh? Posted by: Scott Walker ------------------- Hoser.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (9mTYi)

207 I've never seen a more tone-deaf candidate than Jeb Bush. It's like he lives in a bubble.

Posted by: Mike at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (ylrkv)

208 They want Daddy to come and make it all better. ___ Screw you daddy. You can't make me get a real job now! Also, I can date as many bikers as I want!

Posted by: The Left at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (5LOno)

209 If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. Posted by: ace -------------------------------------- Ace, buddy, I need your help! To the Batmobile. Gotham ain't gonna rescue itself.

Posted by: the Batman at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (E5UB0)

210 The best part is jeb's utter failure to make the field. He is so fucking done.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (xWW96)

211
I'm calling it right now, there is going to be a Trump-Cruz ticket.
Posted by: prescient11



Don't see where letting a Senator who isn't polling that well in his own safe Republican state hitch his horse to your team is going help much.

Now Carson -- that could be interesting for a new broom outsider ticket.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (kdS6q)

212 Ooops, off fowl sock.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (Wckf4)

213 Wow - establishment really sucks whether its Pubbie or Demoncrat. I wonder why?

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 07:00 AM (oDCMR)

214 You don't consider Walker establishment? /i] I think he's kind that hazy border between establishment GOP and conservatives like Cruz. He's in there with Jindal. Not quite either, but palatable to both, if necessary. And Democrats don't want diversity, they want the appearance of diversity. Read this article for how the left treats minorities who won't stay in their place: http://tinyurl.com/qga98vd

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 07:01 AM (39g3+)

215 "You've been told over and over and over. That you either can't or won't acknowledge such well-known arguments is your problem."

"emotional ranting" =/= "well-known arguments"


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 07:01 AM (ljZD2)

216 I coulda been a contender.

Posted by: Dnar Luap at August 31, 2015 07:01 AM (HstNY)

217 Margin of error +/- 5%.  Translation?  This is a bull shit poll.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 07:01 AM (0FSuD)

218 Hoover was the first student at Stanford.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 31, 2015 07:01 AM (evdj2)

219 >>A black neurosurgeon who doesn't like abortion though? That's not the old, white, racist, plutocrat, science denying candidate the state media wants... I have no doubt that the MSM will do whatever it takes to get Carson and Fiorini to bow out (lookin' like they won't need to bother with Jindal). Count on it. They have a narrative to maintain: GOP is the party of white men. Just look at what they did to Herman Cain - 100+ stories at Politico alone re: alleged co-worker affair. They cannot let the GOP have a more diverse ticket than theirs - especially if Joey Choo Choo decides to step into the race.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 07:01 AM (NOIQH)

220 Carly's third? She owes ace big time.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 07:01 AM (E5UB0)

221 If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. Video game or wearing a cape?

Posted by: fluffy at August 31, 2015 07:02 AM (2iV3X)

222 Not at all well thought out umm thought type thingy that I had over the weekend and was discussing with Bander: Voters have a marked preference for governors being elected President (baseline here being from Reagan forward). There is at least strong anecdata that GOP primary voters prefer someone with executive experience as the Presidential candidate (see McCain exception). In 2012 Rick Perry was Teh Hotness. In 2016 Scott Walker was Teh Hotness. So why was it in 2012 and now in 2016 that the person who should be sprinting out of the gate is shooting himself in the dick repeatedly? My theoryish thingy is that the skills needed to be elected governor do not necessarily translate to a national level and that there really isn't a finishing school to learn how to do that. As I said, this is just the inkling of a thought and I can't tell if something is there or not. I found it interesting though.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 07:02 AM (mf5HN)

223 Margin of error +/- 5%. Translation? This is a bull shit poll. ___ Pretty sure that's racist. Not sure why but pretty sure.

Posted by: The Left at August 31, 2015 07:02 AM (5LOno)

224 'Tis the silly season. These numbers will change as Iowa/New Hampshire draw near. If they make the establishment sweat that's a good thing but it's probably more a matter of hope than reality.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at August 31, 2015 07:02 AM (RD7QR)

225 Has anybody seen a recent Carson position on 2A? NOT his position from eight months or a year ago. But his current iteration. If Reagan can shift parties, and Trump can evolve, I expect the same latitude and courtesy extended to all. Except for the Democrats. They lie just to hear their own voices.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:02 AM (VPLuQ)

226 Iowa is a strange Caucus where it's less about free media and more about the grunt work of organizing. That's usually why social conservatives do well in that contest, they tend to be a lot more dedicated. Not sure what sort of effort Carson and Trump have in the state, but I could easily see Trump's poll support not translating into votes in the Caucus at all unless he really wants to make a large investment or camp out there. I also don't see his social liberalism playing well there. I personally think the GOP should bypass it altogether as it ends up being a headache more than anything

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:02 AM (/HKwL)

227 AoS: the only blog where the readers complain about getting too much content.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 07:03 AM (XiVKO)

228 El Jefe! came to the conclusion that the best way to win the general election was to run against the Conservative wing of his own party. It's not looking like he chose wisely.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 31, 2015 07:03 AM (evdj2)

229 Very. How do you go from being wobbly on immigration to something as stupid as a wall on the fucking Canadian border? Whaaaaat? Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (yMVjf) Wait.... that's a GREAT Idea.... have you seen the scenery up there? Great place for YUGE apartment buildings... We build a Wall... of APARTMENTS with all the doors facing the US, on top of a YUGER wall... and then we sell them to rich people all over the world... the Saudis and the Chinese will pay BIG for those apartments... I'm telling ya.... its a winner...

Posted by: Channeling Trump... at August 31, 2015 07:03 AM (qh617)

230 Just look at what they did to Herman Cain - 100+ stories at Politico alone re: alleged co-worker affair. ___ Were any of them hot but kinda chubby? That's the way I order my interns.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 31, 2015 07:03 AM (5LOno)

231 Trumps managed to take all the available oxygen out of the room for the other candidates... That's bad and good... Keeps the heat off them but keeps them in the sidelines...

Posted by: donna at August 31, 2015 07:03 AM (hUdMz)

232 ***"So when we're up to 900 posts and we're re-fighting the War of Southern Recalcitrance can you at least tell us if you've leveled up?"*** Hell, by that point he's done with Batman and just adding to his crispy sock collection.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 07:04 AM (Wckf4)

233 If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. Video game or wearing a cape? Why "or"?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 07:04 AM (E9ede)

234 Perry went after establishment candidate cash instead of outsider candidate votes. As I've said it takes both cash and votes and lately candidates have let the pendulum swing way to far toward the cash. I was turned off after he effectively pulled a McCain by chastising conservative, pissed off voters. You want my vote then don't lecture me.

Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 07:04 AM (jWtyG)

235 If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. Video game or wearing a cape? ___ Well, doesn't every grown man have a cape? Or...at least under-roos. Its not fair Barack! Give me my cape back!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 31, 2015 07:04 AM (5LOno)

236 Cruz makes sense for a VP because he's Hispanic, so he gives your ticket that interesting diversity twist and might attract hispanic voters. Fiorina does as well; she gives you the female vote attraction and she is very well spoken. Carson doesn't seem to add much to the ticket though; I doubt it would peel off even .5% because the left would be so good at painting him as "not authentically black" and so on, and he doesn't seem to offer much beyond a call for being better people. Which is good but not particularly presidential.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 07:05 AM (39g3+)

237 Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2015 11:59 AM (5LOno)


for all of you out there with HHDS ( Herbert Hoover Derangement Syndrome ), I deeply apologize for not making it clearer that I meant Herb was a superb admin guy before becoming Prez--hence pairing him with Dewey, who was aces as a prosecutor and Other Stuff but could not campaign.

Posted by: himself at August 31, 2015 07:05 AM (8CdUx)

238 Far and away, the most bumper stickers I see are for two candidates Ben Carson and Bernie Sanders. I like Ben Carson, but I don't think he's ready for prime time. I'm amazed he resonates though with so many conservatives.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:05 AM (/HKwL)

239 Msm, fox in the lead, are pushing carson and carly, Lol It is the height of cognotive dissonance to read some on here who relish the drop for Jeb! and yet bash Trump. Hey geniuses, what other candidate is ripping Jeb! every day and making him look like the nancy boy he is? You have Trump to thank for the fall of Jeb!

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:05 AM (VMZsK)

240 Re: Bretbart's story on Black book club.  Total horse shit.  The women were asked THREE times to quiet down and they told the conductor to get fvcked.



THEN they were kicked off.  I am sick of rude Black people thinking rules don't apply to them cause they are Black.



Fvck rude people, whatever color they come in.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 07:05 AM (0FSuD)

241 Over half of illegals in this country are not Mexicans." Coming from the Mexican border... Do try to keep up, 'k?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:06 AM (C9pBZ)

242 Not at all well thought out umm thought type thingy that I had over the weekend and was discussing with Bander: She looked at me! The cute little red haired girl looked at me! *trots off to gloat over lunch*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 07:06 AM (JtwS4)

243 Ace is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I have ever known in my life.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 07:06 AM (2Ojst)

244 You have Trump to thank for the fall of Jeb! Nah, Jeb has Jeb to thank for the fall of Jeb...

Posted by: donna at August 31, 2015 07:06 AM (hUdMz)

245 ***"emotional ranting" =/= "well-known arguments" Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 12:01 PM (ljZD2)"*** Projection is not a legitimate argument, Sport.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 07:06 AM (Wckf4)

246 167 "point out the real issue is illegal immigrants pouring through Mexico" Real issue for whom? If your concern is Islamic radicalism and the potential for "plants" in this country, Mexico isn't where you focus your attention, VISA overstays and states bordering Ontario and Quebec are. Because that's how Muslim immigrants come into this country, through the airport and from Canada. Over half of illegals in this country are not Mexicans. 40% are VISA overstays. Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (ljZD2) ------------------------ This is a VERY important point. And anyone who seriously wants to take on the immigration issue has GOT to get over the anti-Mexican stuff. Pronto.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 07:06 AM (cN9Sk)

247 AoS: the only blog where the readers complain about getting too much content. Content is like underwear. Just as it's getting comfortable, we have to throw out the old pair and change to a new pair.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 07:06 AM (E9ede)

248 This may get rid of the ethanol subsidy.

Posted by: theTruth at August 31, 2015 07:07 AM (CzhL0)

249

So what legal power does barky have to rename a mountain in Alaska?

 

That in article 1 of the constitution?

Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 07:07 AM (q+zA9)

250 Maybe Obama can rename the Hoover Dam-->Obama Dam. Who wouldn't mess that up by referring to it as the "Dam Obama"?

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 07:07 AM (NOIQH)

251 You have Trump to thank for the fall of Jeb!" I'm good with that...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:07 AM (C9pBZ)

252 Coolio, Yep. When laudner and clovis are commenting that they've never seen ground game reaction, that's when i started to really pay attention.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:07 AM (VMZsK)

253 250 So what legal power does barky have to rename a mountain in Alaska? That in article 1 of the constitution? None that I know off... Since when did the matter to him?

Posted by: donna at August 31, 2015 07:08 AM (hUdMz)

254 I've finished Arkham Knight, except for The Riddler. Because f*ck his stupid underground obstacle courses, and f*ck having to solve over 200 of his riddles scattered all over Gotham.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 07:08 AM (2Ojst)

255 If Trump is the nominee, I see him picking Ben Carson as his running mate. It would be an outsider ticket.

Posted by: McAdams at August 31, 2015 07:08 AM (nq/J2)

256 $114 Million in campaign funds for Senor Heb. Smart Money knows what they're doing. Any moment the Senor Heb Mexican Crazy Train will start to roll. I promise.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 07:08 AM (oDCMR)

257 Dianne Feinstein has a CHL, too.

My concern is not with what a candidate has, it's his view on what I should have.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 07:08 AM (XiVKO)

258 'Cause I was still kicking about the last thread:

"There are a lot of donors out there who see it as much too
dangerous, obviously, for the candidates, or their allied super PACs, to
go after Trump," said Reston. "So they're looking to more establishment
PACs to potentially take him down in post-Labor Day ads."
============
Because they think we're too stupid to know they (Team GOPe) are really funding the attacks?

Sure. Go with that.

They (Team GOPe) will start donating to Hillary rather than see Trump win.

TDS is real.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 31, 2015 07:08 AM (ZvKdv)

259 NO CAPES!

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 07:08 AM (mf5HN)

260 Three words: No. More. Bush.

Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (jWtyG)

261 Trumps managed to take all the available oxygen out of the room for the other candidates... That's bad and good... Keeps the heat off them but keeps them in the sidelines... At this point that might not be bad. Trump taking all the attention right now might be good for them in the long run like about six months from now when the campaign actually starts in earnest.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (39g3+)

262 Carson doesn't seem to add much to the ticket though; I doubt it would peel off even .5% because the left would be so good at painting him as "not authentically black" and so on, and he doesn't seem to offer much beyond a call for being better people. He's a doctor and promotes education. Therefore, acts "white".

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (E9ede)

263 256 If Trump is the nominee, I see him picking Ben Carson as his running mate. It would be an outsider ticket. ---------------------- I'm betting he picks Megyn Kelly just to teach her a lesson.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (oDCMR)

264 Bush at 5% lol.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (oFCZn)

265

And anyone who seriously wants to take on the immigration issue has GOT to get over the anti-Mexican stuff. Pronto.

 

.......

if that is so how come you almost have to speak mexican if you are south of Bakersfiled, CA?

 

 

??

Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (q+zA9)

266 Margarita, All such issues are addressed directly in the trump/sessions policy position.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (VMZsK)

267 71 My campaign is not dead. Posted by: Rick Perry Can I talk to you a moment governor? Do you mind if I call you Jim?

Posted by: Leonard B McCoy at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (xGNLA)

268 anti-Mexican stuff" Why? Mexico is doing a yeoman's job in assuring a steady flow thru their borders. Only the most foolish assume that means all who are coming north are "mexicans".

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:09 AM (C9pBZ)

269 "Content is like underwear. Just as it's getting comfortable, we have to throw out the old pair and change to a new pair." What is this "Under Wear" of which you speak? Sounds sort of Scandi.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:10 AM (VPLuQ)

270 NO CAPES!

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 12:08 PM (mf5HN)

 

Capes are stylish.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 31, 2015 07:10 AM (OiH3z)

271 On the other hand, I would seriously like to sit down and listen to the "Trump Girls", at length. I might just laugh myself into a coma. Oh, and there will be at least a twelve pack.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 31, 2015 07:10 AM (yMVjf)

272 245 You have Trump to thank for the fall of Jeb!

Nah, Jeb has Jeb to thank for the fall of Jeb...

Posted by: donna at August 31, 2015 12:06 PM (hUdMz)


Sadly, Jeb is pissing away $100's of million that could be used by someone that can win.


That and he is co oping Chickenshit Republicans.


Embarrassing

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 07:10 AM (0FSuD)

273 I've renamed the White House. It will now be known as the Douche House, at least until the end of 2016.

Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 07:10 AM (jWtyG)

274 for all of you out there with HHDS (Herbert Hoover Derangement Syndrome) Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!

Posted by: Space Hippie at August 31, 2015 07:11 AM (W5DcG)

275 In 2016 Scott Walker was Teh Hotness. Glad you put that WAS qualifier in there. Cause I was totally thinking you got your hands on that time machine ace doesn't have.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 07:11 AM (PfVjp)

276 I honestly like the idea of advocating for a wall on both borders because it does take the heat off of "we're trying to keep the brown people out". The actual cost of the walls compared to what we lose from illegal immigration is pennies on the dollar. If we have to build both walls to get any wall, I can make that compromise. But yea, it's silly in the sense that 99% of the problem is South of the Border. But the racism charge is why we don't have a wall, so taking that off the table might actually get it built.

Posted by: McAdams at August 31, 2015 07:11 AM (nq/J2)

277 ***"And anyone who seriously wants to take on the immigration issue has GOT to get over the anti-Mexican stuff. Pronto."*** Yeah, dishonesty doesn't really work very well when trying to make a point either.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 07:11 AM (Wckf4)

278 268 71 My campaign is not dead.
Posted by: Rick Perry


Try try try.  Maybe next time?

Posted by: Zombie Ronald Raven at August 31, 2015 07:12 AM (0FSuD)

279 I rather talk about Fear the Walking Dead. Boy, did they blow it. No one cares about how it started or LA characters. Such opportunities blown! People want to see walkers killing people and people killing walkers. They could have had a massive traffic jam and a herd coming thru eating everyone. And as people get bit, they later become a secondary herd. They could have wondered into South Central and the residents shooting everything they got at them. They could storm into a city council meeting, bit everyone and have all the loons who run this crap hole zombified.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 07:12 AM (iQIUe)

280 Would Carson bring the black vote? I don't think so Posted by: Velvet Ambition I think he would be seen as an "Uncle Tom," so probably not. - Yeah, he doesn't deserve respect like a thug who strong arms a convenience store own to steal cigars then tries to grab a cop's gun.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 31, 2015 07:12 AM (fFIVI)

281 173 Career politicians are being rejected. Their supporters keep screaming about policy, which is futile as people don't care about policy anymore. Why? Because career politicians have lied about their policies and what they will do if elected for too long. Career politicians have destroyed policy as a reason to vote for a candidate. And career politicians and their supporters have only themselves to blame. This isn't about Trump, or Carson or Carly. It's much larger. Posted by: Nevermore at August 31, 2015 11:56 AM (1Y+hH) --------------------- Agree up to a point. Policy will take precedence as the election draws nearer. I think policy is predominate even now on the immigration hot- button.

Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2015 07:12 AM (P25Hh)

282 Back when we had the Saturday political threads, I brought up the topic of a Candidates choice for Cabinet members. I could see Trump going VP Fiorena Surgeon Gen Carson AG Gowdy

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:13 AM (VPLuQ)

283 No Capes! https://youtu.be/4R2aW03pwL0

Posted by: Edna Mode at August 31, 2015 07:13 AM (zt+N6)

284 Nip Sip, Yep. I mean the guy just doesn't look like he is happy running. Wtf? AL rally was perfect contrast. Trump buzzes crowd in gold plated 757. Jeb! trolls crowd with prop two seater. Hilarious.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:13 AM (VMZsK)

285 Once you go black, you don't go back.

Posted by: Ben Carson at August 31, 2015 07:13 AM (E5UB0)

286 Who wouldn't mess that up by referring to it as the "Dam Obama"? Here's what goes on inside TFG's head, except it's with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPeattKV74A

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:13 AM (LUgeY)

287 How much does this VP job pay? Asking for a friend

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 07:13 AM (gf8BH)

288 261 Three words: No. More. Bush.

Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 12:09 PM (jWtyG)



Three words.


Suck. My. Dick

Posted by: GOPe at August 31, 2015 07:13 AM (0FSuD)

289 "Nah, Jeb has Jeb to thank for the fall of Jeb... " Yeah, gotta say, mindblowing-ly stupid campaign so far.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 07:13 AM (LA7Cm)

290 >>Sadly, Jeb is pissing away $100's of million that could be used by someone that can win. I've read articles that say Jeb has received a lot of his campaign dough from Hillary's donors. I wouldn't assume that that money could have been directed at a more conservative candidate - I think it was specifically targeted at ensuring the GOP has a weak, uber-RINO candidate against Hillary.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 07:14 AM (NOIQH)

291 "Mick" Huckabee Is that a cultural slur?

Posted by: socalcon at August 31, 2015 07:14 AM (vHlQ5)

292 274 I've renamed the White House. It will now be known as the Douche House, at least until the end of 2016. Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 12:10 PM (jWtyG) Its now the 'Rainbow Crib'!

Posted by: Susan Rice at August 31, 2015 07:14 AM (qh617)

293 Destroy the incentive and the wall is unnecessary. But that goes back to Drew's post and why this is all a canard.

As much as I'd like it all fixed, it won't be with a wall and even talking about it is a squirrel.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 07:14 AM (XiVKO)

294 For those on the food thread yesterday, dad and I managed to go thru a case of beer last nite. Glad it's a cloudy and rainy day. Ugh.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 07:14 AM (PfVjp)

295 It seems like the poll actually has Trump leading 23% to 18%. The 23% tie occurs when 1st and 2nd place choices are combined.

http://tinyurl.com/payegwf

This poll consisited of 405 caucus goers and was done by Monmouth/ des Moines register (remember them?).

There's a lot of speculation out there that The GOPe is going to push Carson because the other also-rans are too weak to help Jeb! Basically, the plan is to keep anyone out of a majority in the proportional primaries until the wiiner take all primaries in March.

There will be a push for Carson now as the 'softer, less vulgar' version of a Trumo. Thus the misleading and heralding characteristics of publicizing such a poll.

JMO

Posted by: Jack Long at August 31, 2015 07:15 AM (dNJui)

296 Wait! Jebbie is in sixth place!! Unpossible!

Posted by: Donor Class at August 31, 2015 07:15 AM (TxJGV)

297 Don't see Trump/Cruz. VP doesn't fit Cruz's personality profile. And Trump doesn't strike me as someone who would calculate an ethnic angle in choosing him. Don't see Carson either. No compelling reason. I think Trump/Palin is more likely. They like each other. She's qualified. And it would be the biggest FU to the establishment in American political history.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 07:15 AM (s/yC1)

298 What is this "Under Wear" of which you speak? Sounds sort of Scandi. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 12:10 PM (VPLuQ) As I understand it, it's sort of like wearing *two* sets of loincloths, so that the outer loincloth doesn't get, er, soiled by the inner loincloth touching various bodily orifices that polite people do not talk about.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:15 AM (JvPqF)

299 >>Yeah, gotta say, mindblowing-ly stupid campaign so far. He's 2016's Fred Thompson.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 07:15 AM (NOIQH)

300 ***""Nah, Jeb has Jeb to thank for the fall of Jeb... "*** Jeb's specific problem is that he believes his own bullshit.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 07:16 AM (Wckf4)

301 Three words: No. More. Bush. Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 12:09 PM (jWtyG) Three words. Suck. My. Dick Posted by: GOPe There is no evidence you have one.

Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 07:16 AM (jWtyG)

302
Over half of illegals in this country are not Mexicans.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy



Self reported national origins of illegals immigrates are not to be consided  accurate, absent confirming documents, because:

1.  Criminals like illegals lie

2. While Mexicans do not have automatic refugee status, those purporting to come from other areas, such as Nicaragua and El Salvador do.

3.  Good work tightening up that 'refuge" thing GOP.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 07:16 AM (kdS6q)

303 Back when we had the Saturday political threads, I brought up the topic of a Candidates choice for Cabinet members. I could see Trump going VP Fiorena Surgeon Gen Carson AG Gowdy AG Cruz.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 07:16 AM (E9ede)

304 "Once you go black, you don't go back" I've heard it both ways

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal, at August 31, 2015 07:16 AM (VPLuQ)

305 I like Ben Carson, but I don't think he's ready for prime time. I'm amazed he resonates though with so many conservatives. 1. Legitimately smart guy. Brain surgeon. Finally a candidate nobody can deride as retarded. 2. Not a career politician. 3. Not embarrassing like Trump. 4. Not a fired woman like Fiorina. I'm not a Carson supporter, having learned the "doctor politician" lesson with Frist!, but know a lot of his fans.

Posted by: wooga at August 31, 2015 07:16 AM (bplPQ)

306 I like the idea of a future President naming a pile of manure "Mount Obama."

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 07:16 AM (AC0lD)

307 re: Denali If Fiorina would change her name to Charles, she's in!

Posted by: socalcon at August 31, 2015 07:16 AM (vHlQ5)

308 Yeah, gotta say, mindblowing-ly stupid campaign so far." Agreed. And that's after RICK! the last time...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:17 AM (C9pBZ)

309 As I understand it, it's sort of like wearing *two* sets of loincloths, so that the outer loincloth doesn't get, er, soiled by the inner loincloth touching various bodily orifices that polite people do not talk about. Aka, skid mark concealer.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 07:17 AM (E9ede)

310 Would Carson bring the black vote? I don't think so Posted by: Velvet Ambition He wouldn't get a majority, but I could see him peeling off more than a few. If a Republican ticket gets 20% of the black vote, it's almost a guaranteed win. I could see a Republican ticket getting 15-20% with Ben Carson on the ticket, especially if Border Control is on the ballot. Democrats need 99% black support and huge turnout to win. That was what put Obama in the White House more than Hispanics or anything else.

Posted by: McAdams at August 31, 2015 07:17 AM (nq/J2)

311 So what legal power does barky have to rename a mountain in Alaska? I don't know the legal structure, but its possibly a Department of the Interior thing where they name federal parks and features within them. If so, then he has the legal power as the chief of the executive department. Seems like a pointless maneuver and expense meant to eliminate white people from history, but whatever. Re: Bretbart's story on Black book club. Total horse shit. The women were asked THREE times to quiet down and they told the conductor to get fvcked. Well its hard to say how rambunctious they were being and how persnickity the conductor was being on his rich white people express. Maybe they were a real problem. Maybe they were just ordinary folks having fun and the conductor was being a jerk. All I know is if the Young Conservatives or some non-lefty group did this, they'd be branded hateful klan members for six months straight in the news.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 07:17 AM (39g3+)

312 294 Destroy the incentive and the wall is unnecessary. Too simple.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 31, 2015 07:18 AM (yMVjf)

313 I think Trump/Palin is more likely. They like each other. She's qualified. And it would be the biggest FU to the establishment in American political history. Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 12:15 PM (s/yC1) I like (or liked) Palin as much as anybody, but I can't see Trump doing this, and raising the spectre of Palin Derangement Syndrome (which makes TDS look like pre-school nap time in comparison.) Palin's got Secretary of Energy/Interior written all over her, if an 'insurgent' GOP candidate actually wins through.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:18 AM (JvPqF)

314 OT: From Drudge, DAs gone wild. Kinky sex described in divorce documents. See Wife Has PTSD.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 31, 2015 07:18 AM (fFIVI)

315

CNN is still employing an algorithm"

--

Watch me Dance

Posted by: Al Gore's rythym at August 31, 2015 07:18 AM (/eTPT)

316 Criminals like illegals lie" Really? What a concept... /

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:18 AM (C9pBZ)

317 Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 11:57 AM (XiVKO) 2nd Amendment is my biggest issue, but I'd vote for Carson. He's ignorant on guns because he doesn't care about that issue. If he were president, he wouldn't waste his time on that fight. Coming from his culture of the inner city black guy who rose to the top of his career, do you honestly think he's given the issue any thought?

Posted by: Old Hob at August 31, 2015 07:19 AM (ZufZo)

318 CNN has to shut out Carly, Carson, and Jindal from the debates in order to preserve the narrative of "GOP is the party of rich old white men who only want to preserve white privilege" Can't have the public seeing nothing but rich old white men when the Dems have Hillary, O'Malley, Bernie, and Biden can we

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2015 07:19 AM (GrXXa)

319 I'm betting he picks Megyn Kelly just to teach her a lesson. Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 12:09 PM (oDCMR) -------------------------- Hmmm. I'm thinking about this.....

Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2015 07:19 AM (P25Hh)

320 250 So what legal power does barky have to rename a mountain in Alaska? That in article 1 of the constitution? Posted by: Yo! shhh. I like the precedent of just declaring null and void legislation Wilson signed.

Posted by: X at August 31, 2015 07:19 AM (xGNLA)

321 Somebody shake the Boss, and tell him to drop his cape. 45 minutes about up.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:20 AM (VPLuQ)

322 Too bad Jindal never gained traction. Having said that, how about Department of Education? He can get rid of it in a couple of months and then do the same thing for...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 31, 2015 07:20 AM (oFCZn)

323 Destroy the incentive and the wall is unnecessary. As long as criminals are treated better in the US than ordinary citizens in most TWSHs, "the incentive" to come here (legally or otherwise) will exist. And that's not changing any time soon.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 07:20 AM (kff5f)

324 316 CNN is still employing an algorithm" -- Watch me Dance Posted by: Al Gore's rythym at August 31, 2015 12:18 PM (/eTPT) Damnit.... *wipes coffee dripping from Monitor*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at August 31, 2015 07:21 AM (yMVjf)

325 45 minutes about up. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 12:20 PM (VPLuQ) Slavedriver! And here I was, giving the big/little guy an hour's Batman time between posts.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:21 AM (JvPqF)

326 Coming from his culture of the inner city black guy who rose to the top of his career, do you honestly think he's given the issue any thought? After the drubbing he received last year - the *first* time he said something like "you don't need guns if you live in the inner city?" If he hasn't given it any thought, he's not as smart as many say.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 07:22 AM (kff5f)

327 I like the idea of a future President naming a pile of manure "Mount Obama." I like mount Obama.

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 31, 2015 07:22 AM (W5DcG)

328 Interestingly, and incredible two thirds of Iowa caucus goers surveyed want somebody other than a Washington politician (counting Cruz as an outsider, since they hate him so much). What could that possibly mean?

Posted by: MTF at August 31, 2015 07:22 AM (TxJGV)

329 Just a few comments. 1) Scott Walker is the only R candidate in the field that has proven to have the mettle to do conservative things, at every job he's had. Regardless of the blowback, or what special interest gets angry, he will do what he says, and that is rare. That said, he is running a poorly focused campaign of reacting, instead of focusing on his issues and attacking. Too bad. b) King Putt is just trolling us with the "renaming" of Denali. Everyone pretty much knows both names to that mountain, thanks to GMC. He's just taking the white mans name off of it to get a reaction from the usual suspects, and I'm sure it will work. The proper reaction would be to simply put it on a list of thing to be undone by the next president. III) The Establishment GOP is not a conservative party, and never has been. Every blogger here that I can recall has pointed out how the party needs conservatives, but despises them nonetheless. Seeing not one, not two, but THREE outsiders leading the pack in Iowa should be a smack from the cluebat, but they will insist that this is just "silly season", and the stupid rubes will come around as we near the election, because (wave your red foam finger now) "you're not going to let them(pretend that this is italicized) win, are you?" Guess they'll have to wait for next Nov. to get their answer. P.S. If the war on women folk really wanted to poke an issue, they'd point out that Fiorina is being treated unfairly, and accuse the GOP of sexism. They just can't a sister out if she's an unperson from the wrong party. Bullet points thanks to DC in River City.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2015 07:22 AM (kKHcp)

330 If Teh Donald actually pulls this off, GOPe might try to force Jeb on him as VP. Or Rubio. Don't fall for it, Trump!

Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 07:23 AM (cbfNE)

331 Would a President Carson veto a new assault weapon bill that a Democratic Congress sent up?

My bet is he wouldn't.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 07:23 AM (XiVKO)

332 That's not a bible....   Now THAT'S a bible.

Posted by: Mick "Crocodile" Huckabee at August 31, 2015 07:23 AM (pMGkg)

333 Ok..... now we all know you want to be VP... but its a tough job and only one of you can get it... So, this weeks task is to figure out how to bring me independent votes... We'll start by splitting up into teams, but one of you will go home this week... Wait.... who let Jeb in here.... you're already fired...

Posted by: Trump's VP selection process at August 31, 2015 07:23 AM (qh617)

334 Where all de black men at?

Posted by: Vespers O'Houlihan at August 31, 2015 07:23 AM (E5UB0)

335 "Coming from his culture of the inner city black guy who rose to the top of his career, do you honestly think he's given the issue any thought?" Gonna ask again. Has anybody read Carson's CURRENT take on the Second Amendment? http://tinyurl.com/q92vfak I'm not real happy about the quote concerning Semi-auto weapons. But, that quote is from two and a half yeas ago.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:24 AM (VPLuQ)

336 330 Just a few comments. 1) Scott Walker is the only R candidate in the field that has proven to have the mettle to do conservative things, at every job he's had. Regardless of the blowback, or what special interest gets angry, he will do what he says, and that is rare. That said, he is running a poorly focused campaign of reacting, instead of focusing on his issues and attacking. Too bad. Somebody (maybe here but don't remember) said he ckufed up by not going with his gut and instead started to listen to campaign advisers. That would explain a lot I think.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 31, 2015 07:24 AM (oFCZn)

337 How about another little rebellion? "No Carly, No Watch." After Fox lit up the ratings, how would you like to do a face-plant, CNN?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 31, 2015 07:24 AM (c41Rr)

338 294 Destroy the incentive and the wall is unnecessary. _______________________ I don't really buy into that and when I hear arguments for that like of thinking, it's usually just an open borders politician that is afraid of how effective a wall is going to be. Even though there is a lot of incentives for a criminal not to try and escape jail (like a longer sentence) we still have walls around the prison. Fact is, we've tried the other ways, why not try a wall? I will say, one think a President could do overnight and solve the border issue is simply use the military or National Guard.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:24 AM (/HKwL)

339 If the war on women folk really wanted to poke an issue, they'd point out that Fiorina is being treated unfairly, and accuse the GOP of sexism" Thanks for the tip!

Posted by: Debbie Whatshernameshultzorsomething at August 31, 2015 07:24 AM (C9pBZ)

340 So, our "electable, common sense, likeable, let's talk about the issues, presidential, former front runner" Jeb! has called Trump a jerk, in private, behind his back. Team Murdoch is reporting in page six to show Jeb! is also a fighter. Hahahahaha. Trump is going to wipe the floor with the stupid party. It is going to be yuuuuuuge.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:24 AM (VMZsK)

341 Carly should sue CNN for gender discrimination. That would be epic.

Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 07:25 AM (cbfNE)

342 Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party, a move that would all but guarantee a catastrophic split in the Democratic vote and ensure a Republican victory, Ed Klein confidential reports, citing sources inside Sanders campaign. Oh please be true. Crap I think I just came in my pants

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 07:25 AM (gf8BH)

343 I don't really buy into that and when I hear arguments for that like of thinking, it's usually just an open borders politician that is afraid of how effective a wall is going to be. " Shhh. Dude, don't you know how rayciss that is n'stuff? You must hate brown peoples or something, and that hurts the GOP!

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:26 AM (C9pBZ)

344 Not that it will happen, but- If the GOPes wanted to show that they kinda, sorta, maybe get it, they would- push CNN hard to drop Huckupchuck and add Carly to the big debate because, that better reflects the dynamics of the race at the moment (or some such face-saving shinola).

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2015 07:26 AM (0cMkb)

345 Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party, a move that would all but guarantee a catastrophic split in the Democratic vote and ensure a Republican victory, Ed Klein confidential reports, citing sources inside Sanders campaign. ROFL Not. Enough. Popcorn.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 07:26 AM (kff5f)

346 If Teh Donald actually pulls this off, GOPe might try to force Jeb on him as VP. Or Rubio. Don't fall for it, Trump! Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 12:23 PM (cbfNE) I'd put Rubio on the "possible to likely" list. Jeb. Meh. Don't know if Trump wants to buy into the Bush dynasty.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:26 AM (JvPqF)

347 "And here I was, giving the big/little guy an hour's Batman time between posts." I'm actually pretty glad that we can't actually see Ace posting. One podcast, here is everyone else all serious and shit. There's Ace, cooking and eating in the background. COB's knotted his back fur on that one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (VPLuQ)

348 Crap I think I just came in my pants Posted by: Nevergiveup ------------------------------------------- I think I just crapped in my pants

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (E5UB0)

349 Coolio, you are 100000 percent correct. On Thursday Mark Levin says he refuses! to support any candidate who will not build a wall. He cites brilliant article in conservative review on subject. Using israel as a guide, it would cost, at most, ten billion. Anyone who says it's too expensive is fucking lying!!!!

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (VMZsK)

350 AL rally was perfect contrast. Trump buzzes crowd in gold plated 757. Jeb! trolls crowd with prop two seater.


Hilarious.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 12:13 PM (VMZsK)


Something we can agree on.  I met him last fall, he came to a Tillis fundraiser.



He is a drip and boring.  I was a delegate for his dad, hello, I tried to chat him up and he acted like he wanted to be playing a video game or something.



His speech was so bad, a third of the people left in the middle of it.

Posted by: GOPe at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (0FSuD)

351 I should probably know this, but when is the Iowa vote?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (OSs/l)

352 Can we switch pants?

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (E5UB0)

353 And we're allowing CNN to pick our candidates, why, again? They (CNN) aren't even smart enough to use current poll numbers to determine who to pick. More and more, I'm becoming convinced that the GOPe is actually a division of the Dimocrat Party. I don't see any daylight between the two. On social issues, maybe. But overall, they crave their power just as much as the Prog/Com Dims and will do their best to quell any attempt by anyone to diminish it. See Party, Tea.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (LUgeY)

354

How would this play out?

Trump tells CNN that Fiorina obviously deserves a spot in the next debate. And unless they allow her in, he'll simply give his spot to her.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (/eTPT)

355 anchor babies away!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (0O7c5)

356 Yeah, I'm not watching the CNN debates. I will wait for the highlites.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (PfVjp)

357 Prez ticket-guessing is all good fun and stuff. But there's the distinct possibility that it's now impossible for ANY Republican candidate to win the Presidency. I mean, there were folks here that actually thought Romney was going to win.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 31, 2015 07:27 AM (SCcgT)

358 ***"I'm not real happy about the quote concerning Semi-auto weapons. But, that quote is from two and a half yeas ago."*** That's why I'm heading to that local meetup of his supporters in a couple of weeks. To find out if there's anything more current or to let them know they're losing support because of that silly position.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 07:28 AM (Wckf4)

359 "Scott Walker is the only R candidate in the field that has proven to have the mettle to do conservative things, at every job he's had. Regardless of the blowback, or what special interest gets angry, he will do what he says, and that is rare. That said, he is running a poorly focused campaign of reacting, instead of focusing on his issues and attacking."

I'd say that almost all of this is exactly right.

I do think that he bought into the Trump hype too much and tried to get out ahead of it instead of staying on-message as he did in the first debate and immediately after.  People on the right complain constantly about how the MSM/DNC want to get our best candidates into traps, yet we "jump" when they say "jump" every time the push forward people or ideas that are explicitly designed to get our candidates into traps.

People were all buying right into the "Walker is boring" meme the MSM/DNC were pushing right after the debate and I think he mistakenly fell into that trap. 

The stuff he's done with the Obamacare repeal/replace plan is the best of any of them, and his speech/policy announcement on foreign policy at the Citadel was similarly as strong.  I hope he sticks to this kind of substantive approach and stays out of the Trump weeds going forward.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 07:28 AM (ljZD2)

360 Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party, a move that would all but guarantee a catastrophic split in the Democratic vote and ensure a Republican victory, Ed Klein confidential reports, citing sources inside Sanders campaign. ROFL Not. Enough. Popcorn. People will be asking in the future, "where were you during the great popcorn shortage of 2016 daddy?"

Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 07:28 AM (C278+)

361 ROFL Not. Enough. Popcorn. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 12:26 PM (kff5f) My sister makes a killer popcorn cake. M&M's, peanuts, gooey, sticky, yummy stuff. And then there's those "pop-chips" things . . . popcorn reprocessed into chip form. We may need to consider branching out, as we may need to create a whole popcorn menu if this thing keeps getting weirder.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:28 AM (JvPqF)

362 Hubert Heaver

Posted by: Maud at August 31, 2015 07:29 AM (9mTYi)

363 And we're allowing CNN to pick our candidates, why, again? Hush now. /your betters

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:29 AM (C9pBZ)

364 I didn't up-read. Is Miss Lindsey still in negative territory?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 31, 2015 07:29 AM (5buP8)

365 And here I was, giving the big/little guy an hour's Batman time between posts. Posted by: filbert ------------------------------------ Question: do the regulars here call ace "ewok" because he is short? Or because he likes cute furry animals?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 07:29 AM (E5UB0)

366 Hey, if you want to build a wall with the savings you get from yanking the social services out from under illegals, more power to 'ya.

Hell, put the illegal criminals on boats bound for Cuba.

But ultimately, if you can work here, your kids can go to school here, and you can get 1st world healthcare for free here, they're going to come.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 07:29 AM (XiVKO)

367 "That's why I'm heading to that local meetup of his supporters in a couple of weeks. To find out if there's anything more current or to let them know they're losing support because of that silly position." Can you share what you get with us ... Please?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:29 AM (VPLuQ)

368 I should probably know this, but when is the Iowa vote?

February 1.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 31, 2015 07:30 AM (/kI1Q)

369 PUDDING!!!!

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 07:30 AM (J9rqz)

370 I mean, there were folks here that actually thought Romney was going to win." I know. Cute, wasn't it?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:30 AM (C9pBZ)

371 The good news is: !Jeb's! campaign is deader than the cat lying on Trump's head.

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]Anthony Weiner at August 31, 2015 07:30 AM (L9txZ)

372 anchor babies away!!!! Posted by: phoenixgirl ---------------------------------------- Threadwinnah. That's a keeper.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 07:30 AM (E5UB0)

373 The most recent thing I see about Carson and guns is that he spoke at the NRA gathering earlier this year and said no one should ever meddle with the 2A and that it's the foundation for protecting against both foreign invasion and a tyrannical government. Nothing about his past comments regarding specific types of guns though.

Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at August 31, 2015 07:30 AM (HstNY)

374 356 anchor babies away!!!! Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 12:27 PM (0O7c5) Thank goodness. I have enough to worry about with all the hand-babies.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at August 31, 2015 07:30 AM (vgIRn)

375 Oh please be true. Crap I think I just came in my pants Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 12:25 PM (gf8BH) Oh. THAT'S what underwear is for!!!

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:30 AM (JvPqF)

376 I was going to win in Iowa, on the strength of my deeply religious conservatism. That's not working. Then, Sununu told me I was going to win in NH, because of my wide popularity among the state power brokers. Uh-uh, not working. South Carolina was mine for the taking, except, now, not. Where or where can I win? Florida? Whooooo-boy, if I lose Florida..... http://bit.ly/1PH0jaV

Posted by: Jebbie! at August 31, 2015 07:31 AM (TxJGV)

377 274 I've renamed the White House. It will now be known as the Douche House, at least until the end of 2016.
Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2015 12:10 PM (jWtyG)



The Pennsylvania Avenue projects.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:31 AM (oKE6c)

378 Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party -------------------- If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, he will throw his support to whoever does. Biden/Warren/O'Malley -- Mike Hammer

Posted by: Maud at August 31, 2015 07:31 AM (9mTYi)

379 343 Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party, a move that would all but guarantee a catastrophic split in the Democratic vote and ensure a Republican victory, Ed Klein confidential reports, citing sources inside Sanders campaign. Oh please be true. Crap I think I just came in my pants Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 12:25 PM (gf8BH) IF that happened there wouldn't be enough pudding in the nation for all the dipping the horde would do. But I think the Dems exercise greater discipline over their party members than the GOP does.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at August 31, 2015 07:31 AM (RD7QR)

380 Fact is, we've tried the other ways, why not try a wall? I will say, one think a President could do overnight and solve the border issue is simply use the military or National Guard. Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 12:24 PM (/HKwL) the fact is that we do not have a problem with Immigration LAW... we have a problem with the US Courts. A Court just declared that illegals DO have 2nd Amendment Rights to carry arms... Because they have all the rest of the Rights... And it was the Courts who declared Dual Citizenship OK... even though the Law said, and still says, you give up your other citizenship when you become a US Citizen... (even the oath still says that)... And it was the COURTs who said Illegals get the same State benefits (such as Schools) as Citizens get... even with laws that said otherwise... The Courts have been making immigration LAW, in direct contravention of the Constitution for generations....

Posted by: Trump's VP selection process at August 31, 2015 07:31 AM (qh617)

381 Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party, a move that would all but guarantee a catastrophic split in the Democratic vote and ensure a Republican victory, Ed Klein confidential reports, citing sources inside Sanders campaign. I didn't think he could run as a Democrat? He is registered with the Socialist party no?

Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2015 07:31 AM (oiNtH)

382 "Question: do the regulars here call ace "ewok" because he is short? Or because he likes cute furry animals?" He self identifies as an Underoos wearing Ewok. Who are we to judge?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:31 AM (VPLuQ)

383 Question: do the regulars here call ace "ewok" because he is short? Or because he likes cute furry animals? Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 12:29 PM (E5UB0) Because he's cute and cuddly, and will rip your lungs out, Jim.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:32 AM (JvPqF)

384 I think Trump/Palin is more likely. They like each other. She's qualified. And it would be the biggest FU to the establishment in American political history. Posted by: rrpjr at August 31, 2015 12:15 PM (s/yC1) Just my opinion, but if Trump does win the nomination he might very well pull a Reagan and pick someone like Kasich, i.e. a perceived centrist/policy wonk, as his running mate to "balance" the ticket. Note that I'm not saying I'm in favor of this, just that it could happen.

Posted by: HTL at August 31, 2015 07:32 AM (YrG6T)

385 Biden/Warren/O'Malley -- Mike Hammer ------------- Heh. How could I leave out front-runner Hillary!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 07:32 AM (9mTYi)

386
Is Miss Lindsey still in negative territory?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin



This poll has Graham at 0%

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 07:32 AM (kdS6q)

387 "240 lbs... of tapioca pudding... AWWW YEAAAHHH." Barry and Levon, circa 1996

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 07:32 AM (J9rqz)

388 Hell, put the illegal criminals on boats bound for Cuba. Imma go with that idea.

Posted by: trump at August 31, 2015 07:32 AM (PfVjp)

389 Sanders with an independent run? Yuuuge.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 07:32 AM (LA7Cm)

390 Hey, hey, hey now,, all you bitter clingers get off Jeb! He's a great American, heck,, he even gave me an award! *hic*...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 31, 2015 07:33 AM (HSmrB)

391 My experience has been gun people know nothing about guns, so it's probably just a case of ignorance that an adviser could just clear up for Ben Carson. I don't think he wants to round up guns. I know many people that think "assault weapon" means fully automatic machine gun, which is why the Left likes to use that term so much.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:33 AM (/HKwL)

392 ***"And we're allowing CNN to pick our candidates, why, again?"*** Because Prince Reebus apparently forgot what they learned from that big ol' lessons learned survey they sent out after the 2012 debacle. Because at some point, they have to get a different result from the same inputs, right?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 07:33 AM (Wckf4)

393 Carly should sue CNN for gender discrimination. That would be epic. I wouldn't want her to, but someone doing it for her, or a group bringing the alleged discrimination to light

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 07:33 AM (39g3+)

394 Fiorina needs a national platform.

Posted by: Hillary's Victims at August 31, 2015 07:33 AM (bSp2p)

395 No, I don't think Sanders will go third party. I agree with Mike that Sanders will his support to whichever Democrat gets the nod-as long as it's not Hillary. I think she might be a bridge too far for him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2015 07:33 AM (OSs/l)

396 Off GOPe sock

Posted by: GOPe at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (0FSuD)

397

Hey, if you want to build a wall with the savings you get from yanking the social services out from under illegals, more power to 'ya.

---

just pass a 1% tax on re-fried beans. Or 5% tax of the salaries of all utility infielders.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (/eTPT)

398 Fiorina needs a national platform. /off sock

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (bSp2p)

399 How would this play out? Trump tells CNN that Fiorina obviously deserves a spot in the next debate. And unless they allow her in, he'll simply give his spot to her. Wouldn't happen. Though what might happen is that he'd "accidentally" call Jeb or Huckabee "Ms. Fiorina." That would be epic. I can see it: "You know that's a really great question, and I'm glad you asked that question. I think the American people are fed up with Washington politicians. You can ask Ms. Fiorina there... oh, sorry, I mean Mr. Bush."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (kff5f)

400 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 12:28 PM (ljZD2) Well now, that's disappointing. RPM dropped to only 275. You are beginning to sound almost reasonable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (aRgrb)

401 Out sock

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (L9txZ)

402 I mean, there were folks here that actually thought Romney was going to win. If the '012 election hadn't been rigged by TFG, Lois Lerner, and the Chicago Malfeasance Machine (now firmly ensconced in DC), Mitt would've won.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (LUgeY)

403 My mistake....he is registered as independent and caucuses with the Democrats.

Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (oiNtH)

404 ***"Can you share what you get with us ... Please? Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 12:29 PM (VPLuQ)"*** Be happy to, but it looks like a small Pub meetup, so I'm not expecting much to be honest. Can't say the fact that it's at an Irish pub didn't play a huge factor in determining my participation.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (Wckf4)

405 nevergive up

here's a kleenex

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 07:34 AM (0O7c5)

406 "Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders" I thought that said "Varmint socialist" just as well

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 07:35 AM (bSp2p)

407 343 Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party, a move that would all but guarantee a catastrophic split in the Democratic vote and ensure a Republican victory, Ed Klein confidential reports, citing sources inside Sanders campaign. Oh please be true. Crap I think I just came in my pants Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 12:25 PM (gf8BH) Four way election??? Biden, Jeb!, Trump, Sanders? THAT would be an epic bitch slap to the two parties...

Posted by: Trump's VP selection process at August 31, 2015 07:35 AM (qh617)

408 "Msm, fox in the lead, are pushing carson and carly, Lol..."


Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 12:05 PM (VMZsK)

 

Sorry, but I can't follow the logic on that one.  How can the MSM be accused of 'pushing' Fiorina when she's being relegated to the second tier CNN debate in spite of her strong showing in the Fox debate and recent poll numbers that consistently put her in the first tier pack?

 

As an aside, who the hell is supporting John Kasich?  I know this sounds like a Pauline Kael 'Nobody I know voted for Nixon' remark, but I genuinely don't know of anyone anywhere who champions the guy.  Where is his support coming from? 

 

Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 07:35 AM (Bvf82)

409 Why would Sanders split with the party? Right now he's doing pretty well. Closing the gap with Hillary quite effectively.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 31, 2015 07:35 AM (oFCZn)

410 I am waiting Hillary to start throwing dirt at the upstarts - Biden, Warren, etc.

Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 07:35 AM (cbfNE)

411

Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party

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Is that a way to try to get the VP slot?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 31, 2015 07:35 AM (/eTPT)

412 358 Prez ticket-guessing is all good fun and stuff. But there's the distinct possibility that it's now impossible for ANY Republican candidate to win the Presidency. I mean, there were folks here that actually thought Romney was going to win. Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 31, 2015 12:27 PM (SCcgT) This is true. This is why CAC always wants to ask candidates what their plan for winning PA is: because otherwise, the numbers just don't add up for the GOP.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at August 31, 2015 07:35 AM (RD7QR)

413 AllenG GREAT idea go Eastwood on them

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 07:35 AM (bSp2p)

414 381. Right, There's just always going to be an incentive for the 3rd world to come to the 1st world. Simple as that, and because we have due process and are a somewhat free society, some are going to always fall through the cracks and prefer to live in the shadows of a 1st world country , still living much better than where they came from. Keeping them PHYSICALLY out is the best defense. We then can work on the "magnet" part of the problem once we get the floodgates closed.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:36 AM (/HKwL)

415 "Be happy to, but it looks like a small Pub meetup, so I'm not expecting much to be honest. " I would think that the intimacy of a smaller setting would allow for more face to face, with eye contact, and a chance to read body language. Wish I could be there. Have fun.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 07:37 AM (VPLuQ)

416 I was one of those who thought Romney was going to win. Which is why I'm now more interested in Americans than their politicians. Right now, what I see is a whole lot of "no Bush, no Clinton."

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 07:38 AM (bSp2p)

417 We should treat illegal aliens as an invading army. All those who say we cannot deport millions of illegals are liars. It CAN be done, and it can be done quickly.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 07:38 AM (xWW96)

418 But ultimately, if you can work here, your kids can go to school here, and you can get 1st world healthcare for free here, they're going to come.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 12:29 PM (XiVKO)



Yep. And your kids can go to the effing University of California - free - where they can take remedial ... well, everything ... then pursue a degree in Lawnmowing Chicano Studies, which everyone knows is the engine of a vibrant economy.


Just put it on my tab.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:39 AM (oKE6c)

419 I mean, there were folks here that actually thought Romney was going to win. Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 31, 2015 12:27 PM (SCcgT) Bush and Obama got reelected by pretty close to the same margin. Had 2-3% shifted votes, the other would have won. that's still in "jump ball" territory I'm in the boat that the Media pushes this idea to discourage conservatives from participating in the political process and make them believe the cake is already baked. If people believe something is unwinnable, they give up and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:39 AM (/HKwL)

420 Keeping in mind that thisi s a blood sport... and it would never happen, but... imagine the GOP getting behind Fiorina, and declaring "they will not show up at the debate without her." imagine all the pee-ople The GOP would actually look like they made ONE right decision for a change. War on Women, Won.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 31, 2015 07:39 AM (qCMvj)

421 I think she might be a bridge too far for him. Posted by: FenelonSpoke ------------------- Bernie as Trotsky? I dunno. I'll believe that Bernie is NOT a party player only when he begins to swing at Hillary openly, ala Trump swinging at Jebbie. That hasn't happened yet, and I don't expect it. Bernie folding to the BLM thugs suggests that he is long on rhetoric, and short on principle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 07:40 AM (9mTYi)

422
This is why CAC always wants to ask candidates what their plan for winning PA is: because otherwise, the numbers just don't add up for the GOP.
Posted by: joncelli



Of course, the only Republican to win a Presidential election since 1992 won without winning Pennsylvania.

Twice.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 07:40 AM (kdS6q)

423

Right now he's doing pretty well. Closing the gap with Hillary quite effectively.

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can we not talk about Hilary's 'gap'?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 31, 2015 07:40 AM (/eTPT)

424 But I think the Dems exercise greater discipline over their party members than the GOP does. Sanders isn't a Democrat. He's an independent who is *running* as a Democrat.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 07:40 AM (kff5f)

425 Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders will be breaking from the Democratic Party and running for president as a third party, - He got a death wish or something?

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 31, 2015 07:40 AM (XUKZU)

426 Why would Sanders split with the party? Right now he's doing pretty well. Closing the gap with Hillary quite effectively. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 31, 2015 12:35 PM (oFCZn) The Party (i.e. DWS) is freezing out Sanders and whatshisname by refusing to hold any debates with the Empress Dowager.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:41 AM (JvPqF)

427 Sorry, but I can't follow the logic on that one. There's virtually no logic in prescient's posts on Trump. He's sort of gone around the bend.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 07:41 AM (39g3+)

428 We then can work on the "magnet" part of the problem once we get the floodgates closed. I have a pen and a phone. Stop the welfare, use that $ for the fence and executioners. Bullets are cheap.

Posted by: trump at August 31, 2015 07:41 AM (PfVjp)

429 Well, the Northern Barrier Wall should do good work in protecting us from the Vast Canuckian Poutine Conspiracy. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2015 11:42 AM (TuXs5) As long as we can still get Hockey Night in Canada, I'm cool with it.

Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 07:41 AM (w1ewr)

430 I still don't get how someone not in your party is allowed to run for the nomination of you party.

Ultimately, the only thing that makes sense is they made him a deal to allow it to not split the vote.

I doubt he's gonna crawfish at the last minute and break that deal.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 07:42 AM (XiVKO)

431 artisanal Why not simply invite her up from the stage itself? Make it a "live TV moment" and yes, link it as you say to the "so-called war on women." The ratings will go beserk. The TV types will love it.

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 07:42 AM (bSp2p)

432

imagine the GOP getting behind Fiorina, and declaring "they will not show up at the debate without her."

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problem with advocating for her, is it means advocating against another candidate. Party won't want to be seen taking sides.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 31, 2015 07:42 AM (/eTPT)

433 Because he's cute and cuddly, and will rip your lungs out, Jim. - Just don't get him wet or feed him after midnight.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 31, 2015 07:43 AM (XUKZU)

434 Thinking poutine is food should get Canadians banned from this country just on general principle. 

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 07:43 AM (ljZD2)

435 Sanders isn't a Democrat. He's an independent a socialist  who is *running* as a Democrat. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale

FIFY

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 07:43 AM (/Ho8c)

436 I still don't get how someone not in your party is allowed to run for the nomination of you party. Ultimately, the only thing that makes sense is they made him a deal to allow it to not split the vote. I doubt he's gonna crawfish at the last minute and break that deal. Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 12:42 PM (XiVKO) Get back to us when you can explain "open primaries," too.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:43 AM (JvPqF)

437 Why not simply invite her up from the stage itself? Make it a "live TV moment" and yes, link it as you say to the "so-called war on women." The ratings will go beserk. The TV types will love it. Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 12:42 PM (bSp2p) War on Women +1 Destroying biased Media +1 Jeb!'s too much of a coward.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 31, 2015 07:43 AM (qCMvj)

438 "poutine" it sounds like something you pull out of your toilet

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 07:43 AM (bSp2p)

439 I'll believe that Bernie is NOT a party player only when he begins to swing at Hillary openly, ala Trump swinging at Jebbie. Except that Bernie may be smarter than that. It works for Trump because the base is so pissed at the DOPe. The Democrat base is *not* pissed - at least not pissed enough - at the Democrat establishment to be open to that. So Sanders has to play a nicer game. The PUMAs were a real thing (though not enough of one) in the 2008 election. If Sanders comes out swinging too hard, they will be again in 2016 - and Sanders knows he can't count on the full Obama coalition.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 07:44 AM (kff5f)

440 Carson would make for a killer Sturgeon General. But tying Teh Donald in the polls? I don't buy it. Carson doesn't have anywhere near the name recognition that Trump does. He hasn't had the rallies or the turnout. Something smells fish-like and it ain't tacos.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:44 AM (LUgeY)

441 I admit I have a taste for Canadian poontang, thats the same thing isn't it?

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 07:44 AM (xWW96)

442 Reminder: at this point in the 2012 cycle, Rick Perry was leading the field. He went on to capture zero delegates. BTW there's a nice piece from 538 explaining why Trump has a very low probability of winning.

Posted by: TallDave at August 31, 2015 07:44 AM (/s1LA)

443 423 This is why CAC always wants to ask candidates what their plan for winning PA is: because otherwise, the numbers just don't add up for the GOP. Posted by: joncelli Of course, the only Republican to win a Presidential election since 1992 won without winning Pennsylvania. Twice. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 12:40 PM (kdS6q) And since then Virginia has become a blue state and FL has become competitive.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at August 31, 2015 07:44 AM (RD7QR)

444 418 We should treat illegal aliens as an invading army. All those who say we cannot deport millions of illegals are liars. It CAN be done, and it can be done quickly.
Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 12:38 PM (xWW96)



A retarded neighbor thought it was cute to feed raccoons on his back deck when we were visiting, and he told us he did it every night. Without exaggeration, there were about 30 - 30! - of them, and they were getting increasingly rowdy, jostling each other to get to him and the food, as more and more came. (Then he asked if we wanted our toddler to feed them; we looked at him as though he were crazy.)


One day he'd had enough, and stopped feeding them. They raised hell for a while, rummaging throughout his backyard (and the neighborhood), but eventually they stopped coming.


It's almost like a parable.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:44 AM (oKE6c)

445 then pursue a degree in Lawnmowing Chicano Studies, which everyone knows is the engine of a vibrant economy." Nah. Cowboy poetry is the engine. Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:44 AM (C9pBZ)

446 Jeb is toast time for him to go home and refund the money

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 07:44 AM (bSp2p)

447 Joncelli, Just my view on the coverage. Also you are sooo right on kasich. He's a fake splitter candidate for team Jeb! Perhaps he takes the mantle. Folks, ask yourselves, why are there soooo many candidates running? Then look at what states they're from. Then look at primary calendar. This is all by DESIGN. To prevent cruz or walker, etc. from ever having a chance and letting Jeb! slide in backdoor. Trump has fucked up the whole thing. Lol

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:45 AM (VMZsK)

448 Sanders isn't a Democrat. He's an independent who is *running* as a Democrat. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale They're still "comrades" and Bernie Sanders caucuses with Democrats. He essentially has the same voting record as any other Blue State Democrat. If he ran, it would be an automatic win for whoever the GOP nominee is, so I'll believe it when I see it. The Left is much better at patching over differences and uniting then we are.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:45 AM (/HKwL)

449 imagine the GOP getting behind Fiorina, and declaring "they will not show up at the debate without her." --- problem with advocating for her, is it means advocating against another candidate. Party won't want to be seen taking sides. Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 31, 2015 12:42 PM (/eTPT) Yes, but if they were smart, which they are not in any stretch of the imagination, they could turn this into a win for the Party, and not hurt each of the individual candidates. It would be a rally around principle. But, like I said, bloodsport, and they have no clue who the voters are.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 31, 2015 07:45 AM (qCMvj)

450 Nyet on the troika. Soviets tried that.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2015 07:45 AM (go5uR)

451 The GOP would actually look like they made ONE right decision for a change. War on Women, Won. Posted by: artisanal 'ette I loved how Fiorina blasted Hillary on her latest 'GOP War on Women' stupidity and claiming that the GOP looks at women just as like terrorist do. Fiorina pointed out that women hold higher positions in her campaign and are paid better than in Hillary's. She pointed out that Hillary probably has no interest in watching the PP videos and that PP has nothing to do with women's healthcare. She pointed out that Hillary is just trying to distract from her serious security breaches, the FBI investigation of her, and Benghazi. She was really good.

Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2015 07:45 AM (oiNtH)

452 But there's the distinct possibility that it's now impossible for ANY Republican candidate to win the Presidency. I don't even know any more. Everything has gone crazy. We'll see in a few months how things shape up and it will be more clear then. I mean, there were folks here that actually thought Romney was going to win. Most people thought he was going to win. The White House was acting like they thought he was going to win. The press was acting like they thought he was going to win. Its only in hindsight that people suddenly decide it was so obvious he'd lose, because it wasn't. And to this day when I look at the numbers, they don't add up to an Obama victory. How can someone win the GOP, win the independents, and get a few Dem votes... and lose?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 07:45 AM (39g3+)

453

Kasich=Jeb

repeat as needed

Posted by: Yo! at August 31, 2015 07:46 AM (q+zA9)

454 I don't think it's a good idea for Carly to be on the main stage with a rampaging Trump. Her better move would to be to improve her performances and make a move from the rear if Trump falters. He would devastate her on her performance at HP and role in downsizing and using H1bs.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 31, 2015 07:46 AM (eDW1j)

455 As long as we can still get Hockey Night in Canada, I'm cool with it. The only place where a tv show called "Blade Wars" is about figure skating.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 07:46 AM (E9ede)

456 Why not simply invite her up from the stage itself? Make it a "live TV moment" and yes, link it as you say to the "so-called war on women." The ratings will go beserk. The TV types will love it. " Damn. That is an excellent idea.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:46 AM (C9pBZ)

457 I'm sorry, I don't get the Carson rise in the polls.  The guy always looks like he's talking with his eyes closed, like we had to wake him to ask the question.  Please he'll always need to be mic'd cause he talks so softly I can't hear him on the TV.

Cruz better cuddle up to Trump a little bit more because he is the heir apparent to Trump and his supporters down the road when Trump decides he needs a vacation from running for president when it becomes too boring for him.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 31, 2015 07:47 AM (9U1OG)

458 Thinking poutine is food should get Canadians banned from this country just on general principle.

Are we allowed to insult people who are clearly fucking nuts if it's based on pure hard facts?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 31, 2015 07:47 AM (/kI1Q)

459 Well, the Northern Barrier Wall should do good work in protecting us from the Vast Canuckian Poutine Conspiracy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2015 11:42 AM (TuXs5)



The Canadians should be in favor of it. It'll keep our feral Democrats in Detroit from crossing over into Canada.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:47 AM (oKE6c)

460 Ultimately, the only thing that makes sense is they made him a deal to allow it to not split the vote. - Some 60s variety show had an expert, rather resembling Bernie, who would be lowered from the ceiling in a cage every episode for a short rant. Sounds like a job for Bern.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at August 31, 2015 07:47 AM (XUKZU)

461 Right now he's doing pretty well. Closing the gap with Hillary quite effectively. --- can we not talk about Hilary's 'gap'? What's the spread?

Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 07:47 AM (C278+)

462 445. Good analogy And yes, your neighbor is bat shit crazy. Raccoons are notorious for carrying rabies. I believe it's the #1 mammal to carry it. If your toddler ever got bit it very well could kill them

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:48 AM (/HKwL)

463
And since then Virginia has become a blue state and FL has become competitive.
Posted by: joncelli



Easier to nudge back Virginia and Florida, than try and drag Pennsylvania in a direction it never goes outside of landslide election -- at which point you don't need them anyway.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 07:48 AM (kdS6q)

464 The Democrat base is *not* pissed - at least not pissed enough - at the Democrat establishment to be open to that. So Sanders has to play a nicer game. The PUMAs were a real thing (though not enough of one) in the 2008 election. If Sanders comes out swinging too hard, they will be again in 2016 - and Sanders knows he can't count on the full Obama coalition. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 12:44 PM (kff5f) Some of the more aware Democrats are starting to come to the realization that the Dowager Empress might . . . just *might* . . . be a flawed candidate. Most Democrats, on the other hand, have trouble focusing on the remote long enough to change the channel, let alone understand politics. They just vote for whoever that big glowing thing in front of them tells them to vote for.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:48 AM (JvPqF)

465 It's almost like a parable." That's rayciss. Or something. So I'm told...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:48 AM (C9pBZ)

466 451 Nyet on the troika. Soviets tried that.
Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2015 12:45 PM (go5uR)



As did the Romans.


And the Carolingians.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:48 AM (oKE6c)

467 How can someone win the GOP, win the independents, and get a few Dem votes... and lose?

Hello.

Posted by: Boxes of Premarked Ballots in Dem Poll Workers' Cars at August 31, 2015 07:48 AM (/kI1Q)

468 Feminist response to Hynde is not surprising. Likewise, if a drunk, half-naked woman wandered into a church and was given clothes to wear and someone were called to pick her up, everyone involved in the event would be accused by the same crowd of slut shaming. Again, to no one's surprise, except perhaps the good samaritans'.

Posted by: Cameron at August 31, 2015 07:49 AM (6aVBb)

469 The Left is much better at patching over differences and uniting then we are. Posted by: Coolio --------------------- Multiple parasites all on the same host. Works for a while, but it always ends badly. Parasites being parasites, they never take into account the big picture.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 07:49 AM (9mTYi)

470 I loved how Fiorina blasted Hillary on her latest 'GOP War on Women' stupidity and claiming that the GOP looks at women just as like terrorist do. Fiorina pointed out that women hold higher positions in her campaign and are paid better than in Hillary's. She pointed out that Hillary probably has no interest in watching the PP videos and that PP has nothing to do with women's healthcare. She pointed out that Hillary is just trying to distract from her serious security breaches, the FBI investigation of her, and Benghazi. She was really good. Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2015 12:45 PM (oiNtH) It's refreshing to find someone who knows who the enemy is, and who is relentless at attacking that enemy with common sense, rational thinking and facts.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 31, 2015 07:49 AM (qCMvj)

471 Feeding 30 wild raccoons? Yikes!!

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 07:50 AM (NOIQH)

472 This just in: "It is not true that Trump's toupee has more life than my candidacy" said !Jeb! Bush to the eagerly awaiting Washington press corps. "We're running a vigorous campaign to be the Next Pre... Eh, who the hell do I think I'm kidding; road kill is out polling me in Florida."
 

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at August 31, 2015 07:50 AM (L9txZ)

473 One day he'd had enough, and stopped feeding them. They raised hell for a while, rummaging throughout his backyard (and the neighborhood), but eventually they stopped coming. It's almost like a parable. Posted by: Jay Guevara Yes, had an elderly woman here who lived in the back country and would come out on her porch to feed the bears at sundown. Everyone including the Sheriff, neighbors, and her family begged her to stop doing it. It turned in to dozens of bears getting more aggressive at her place every night. She was on the phone one night with her son when she told him that she could hear and see an adult male harassing a cub and that she wanted to go out and break it up. He begged her not to.....the found what was left of her body the next day. Parable indeed.

Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2015 07:50 AM (oiNtH)

474 They're still "comrades" and Bernie Sanders caucuses with Democrats. He essentially has the same voting record as any other Blue State Democrat. Hmm, kinda like the Maine twins did. Except for the caucus part.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 07:50 AM (PfVjp)

475 The Canadians should be in favor of it. It'll keep our feral Democrats in Detroit from crossing over into Canada. Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 31, 2015 12:47 PM (oKE6c) Plus they have a problem with guns being toted over into Toronto, and/with the gangs.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 31, 2015 07:51 AM (qCMvj)

476 And to this day when I look at the numbers, they don't add up to an Obama victory. How can someone win the GOP, win the independents, and get a few Dem votes... and lose? Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 12:45 PM (39g3+) The Dems panicked and over-cheated. The results out of Philly were ridiculous but enough to get PA. Ditto the other urban strongholds in battleground states. This is why Black Lives Matter is happening. The Dems need black turnout despite a pasty candidate so they can cheat again.

Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 07:51 AM (cbfNE)

477 The only thing more cuddly than a raccoon is an armadillo.

Posted by: Leper Jim at August 31, 2015 07:51 AM (XiVKO)

478 And yes, your neighbor is bat shit crazy. Raccoons are notorious for carrying rabies. I believe it's the #1 mammal to carry it.

If your toddler ever got bit it very well could kill them

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 12:48 PM (/HKwL)


Exactly. That's why we stayed behind the picture window while this numbskull did his Timothy Treadwell impression. (I wondered if they might go after him; they were getting pretty rowdy.)


We were actually shocked at his stupidity. He and his wife had just invited us over for a drink when he started this out of the blue, beaming stupidly as he went out onto the deck. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:51 AM (oKE6c)

479 C taylor, Give me a break. There's no logic in that statement bc it's an observation, not an argument. But please continue, I'm sure you've got something to say besides nonsensical attacks, right?

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:51 AM (VMZsK)

480 Poutine sounds like a racing engine additive.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 07:51 AM (LUgeY)

481 Virginia has become a blue state" Ahem. When (outside of a few years in the late 80s and early 90s) was Byrdland "blue" (as in Democrat)?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:51 AM (C9pBZ)

482 Why not simply invite her up from the stage itself? Make it a "live TV moment" and yes, link it as you say to the "so-called war on women." If a bold candidate stepped off the platform and gave her his position on the podium, that would not only give them a huge boost, it would humiliate CNN and would make people cheer. There's zero negative for this - a candidate like, say, Jeb Bush who has falling numbers loses nothing by avoiding an early debate but would gain greatly in esteem across the board with voters with a move like that. But nobody will do it. They have too big an ego, too much at stake, and too limited an understanding of the voting public.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 07:52 AM (39g3+)

483 Also Mitt too gentemanly to challenge results and demand recounts.

Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 07:52 AM (cbfNE)

484 Why does my mouth taste like cock?

Posted by: Reince Priebus at August 31, 2015 07:52 AM (2oWD2)

485 319 CNN has to shut out Carly, Carson, and Jindal from the debates in order to preserve the narrative of "GOP is the party of rich old white men who only want to preserve white privilege" Can't have the public seeing nothing but rich old white men when the Dems have Hillary, O'Malley, Bernie, and Biden can we Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2015 12:19 PM (GrXXa) ------------------------ BINGO. BTW, the benefit of having people like, say, Carson and Fiorina on stage or on a ticket is not really to get more black or female votes. It is to break or at least weaken the meme for the squishy 'moderates,' who otherwise buy into the narrative. The LIVs' attachment to the narrative is superficial and can be broken by superficial displays.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 07:53 AM (cN9Sk)

486 I think we hurt the Ewok's feelings. Or, he's teaching us a lesson. Or, Batman is going really well for him right now.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 07:53 AM (JvPqF)

487 453. There's a lot of theories that have merit, but ultimately they just ginned up the turnout in the black community to off the charts levels that no one was predicting and our side just did a poor job with that. A better nominee and a better get out the vote could have beaten Obama. I 100% do not believe that this country cannot elect a "non-Democrat" for President, and anyone who says that is a troll with an agenda in my opinion. I mean, no one ever said when Nixon or Reagan won 49 states that "no Democrat will ever be President again" If Republicans did poorly in the off term elections, I would be more open to the idea that the demographics have radically changed. Instead, it's some of the highest margins on 100 years

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 07:53 AM (/HKwL)

488 "big glowing thing in front of them" Goldmember?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:54 AM (C9pBZ)

489 Damnit! Someone above mentioned a group called "Stump for Trump", or somesuch... When I looked them up, I was horribly disappointed they weren't a supporting amputee group

Posted by: Grimaldi at August 31, 2015 07:54 AM (gnnZ7)

490 "What's the spread?" You just had to do that, didn't you.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 07:54 AM (LA7Cm)

491 Why are there so many candidates running? Have you people even asked this question? Look at what states they're from. Look at primary schedule state by state. Aside from a few THEY were all fake candidates to let Jeb! slide in. It's like I'm taking crazy pills. Graham is an embarrasment but he's still in there. Why? Splitter for third primary state, SC.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 07:54 AM (VMZsK)

492 Considering all of the Islamic cells nestled in Canada, I don't think a Northern wall is a bad idea. However, the way that Walker handled that....was bad.

Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2015 07:54 AM (oiNtH)

493 Also Mitt too gentemanly to challenge results and demand recounts. Posted by: @votermom ------------ Same true of Nixon/Kennedy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 07:55 AM (9mTYi)

494 We were actually shocked at his stupidity. He and his wife had just invited us over for a drink when he started this out of the blue, beaming stupidly as he went out onto the deck. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 31, 2015 12:51 PM (oKE6c)

 

Must admit I find people who get Mother Nature payback (but not seriously hurt or scared)  while doing dumb shit with wild animals pretty funny.

Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 07:55 AM (Bvf82)

495 Why does my mouth taste like CNN? FIFY....

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:55 AM (C9pBZ)

496 I don't like Fiorino because she may not have been a solid conservative in the past on one or two issues.  So I'm gonna go with the guy who has not been a solid conservative in the past on, well, on any issue.  That's just how I roll.

Posted by: Double Wide Debbie at August 31, 2015 07:55 AM (nFICN)

497 well the number I shoot for is a :45 minute gap... if it gets to be over an hour, I feel like it's been too long; at an hour and twenty minutes, it's way too long. If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 11:54 AM (dciA+) Damn, nice life you have there.

Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 07:55 AM (w1ewr)

498 Also Mitt too gentemanly to challenge results and demand recounts That is not gentlemanly, that's a sissy.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 07:56 AM (PfVjp)

499 I find the whole notion of a Northern Wall preposterous. The obvious difference is that there isn't much difference in the economies of Canada and the US. Another obvious difference, there isn't a tail attached to Canada comprised of third world countries with so many trying to get out. Finally, have you seen where that border is? It's fricking freezing half the year, impassable without a vehicle most of the year. Checkpoints at the roads is plenty enough for 95% of the North. Smugglers of Labatt's Light will always find a way to deliver, given the demand, wut?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2015 07:56 AM (kKHcp)

500 Thinking poutine is food should get Canadians banned from this country just on general principle. Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2015 12:43 PM (ljZD2) Well, there you go. Anyone who fails to appreciate the total artery-clogging awesomeness that is poutine simply cannot be called a Moron.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 07:56 AM (aRgrb)

501 President Obama said he is personally hurt by the anti-semitism accusations he has faced since signing the nuclear deal with Iran. Obama told the Jewish publication Forward theres not a smidgen of evidence to back up the charge. Weasel Zippers There are a lot of smidgens in the Fredo Admin, like there are Buffers in the Corleone Admin

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 07:56 AM (gf8BH)

502 What's the spread? Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 12:47 PM (C278+) ----- To borrow some vernacular from our esteemed Mr Trump. "Its YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE."

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 07:57 AM (8XRCm)

503 "Stump for Trump", or somesuch... When I looked them up, I was horribly disappointed they weren't a supporting amputee group Posted by: Grimaldi ---------------------- You were thing of the musical group, Stump the Band. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 07:57 AM (9mTYi)

504 "Poutine sounds like a racing engine additive." French fries with brown gravy and cheese, right?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 07:57 AM (LA7Cm)

505 Must admit I find people who get Mother Nature payback (but not seriously hurt or scared) while doing dumb shit with wild animals pretty funny." There's always the twit at the beach tossing out bread (or whatever) to the "pretty little birdies", who within minutes is screaming at the flock of gulls diving in and tearing everything to shreds... followed by another twit not ten minutes later doing the exact same thing.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 07:57 AM (C9pBZ)

506 Raccoons are meaner that Satan. Feeding them is asking for a buttload of trouble.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 07:57 AM (xWW96)

507 Well, there you go. Anyone who fails to appreciate the total artery-clogging awesomeness that is poutine simply cannot be called a Moron. ----- You misspelled "Canuck".

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 07:57 AM (8XRCm)

508 482 Virginia has become a blue state ---- I've always made this point as well. Anyone thinking Virginia has been traditionally red either doesn't live here or isn't up on VA history. Or both.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 31, 2015 07:58 AM (SCcgT)

509 "not a smidgen of evidence" Yeah, because it's more of a sh#-ton of evidence.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 07:58 AM (NOIQH)

510 After clearing away villages and farms within 3 to 5 kilometers of its border with Gaza, Egypt on Monday embarked on the second stage of its plan to protect itself from Hamas terrorists and tunnel smugglers the construction of a medieval style moat around Gaza Can you imagine what the World would say if Israel did that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 07:58 AM (gf8BH)

511 Who doesn't like poutine? I mean, that just doesn't make any sense.

Hell, you can make it with a duck gravy and it'll basically ruin all other foods from that point forward.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 07:59 AM (XiVKO)

512 Yeah, because it's more of a sh#-ton of evidence. Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 12:58 PM (NOIQH) A metric shit ton.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 07:59 AM (xWW96)

513 I honestly believe Trump is appealing across a wide spectrum of LIV's... even last night on the VMAs, Miley said she was switching her vote from Trump to Kanye. It's an anti-establishment, psuedo-rebellious position to take, like retweeting some stupid shit and feeling like you made a difference, and that's why he polls well. The smartest thing about it is that it means he is a marketing genius... he should be running someone else's campaign, but he's too narcissistic for that. I really hope he doesn't get the nomination, but if he keeps it up, he just might, and then we better get some good cabinet members to keep his ego in check.

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 07:59 AM (J9rqz)

514 "You were thing of.." 'thinking', dammit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 07:59 AM (9mTYi)

515 French fries with brown gravy and cheese, right? That's what it is? Definitely a lubricant, so, not inaccurate.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:00 AM (LUgeY)

516 President Obama said he is personally hurt by the anti-semitism accusations he has faced since signing the nuclear deal with Iran.

Obama told the Jewish publication Forward theres not a smidgen of evidence to back up the charge.



"Not a smidgen?" You're sure they didn't ask him if there were any intelligence in his Administration?

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:00 AM (oKE6c)

517 Must admit I find people who get Mother Nature payback (but not seriously hurt or scared) while doing dumb shit with wild animals pretty funny. Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 12:55 PM (Bvf82) Most people's closest encounters with nature is their, or their neighbors' pet dog or cat. They have no concept of 'wild animal." Encounters of this class of people with truly wild/feral animals generally result in hilarity. For certain definitions of hilarity.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:00 AM (JvPqF)

518 But there's a silver lining: After Trump wins the general, and he either wins (and governs as the liberal Democrat that he actually is), or he loses (to Joe F'n Biden, once the press removes the kid gloves with which they're currently handling Trump), I can come back here and dole out great assholish heaping helpings of "I told you so".
=============
And if you are right and do as you say, you'll be meet with a heaping helping of "I don't give a fuck, we were headed down that road anyway with the GOPe candidates."

See, Trump is the float to ruin the parade in Animal House.

We're so far gone, our only hope is to bring down the temple.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 31, 2015 08:00 AM (ZvKdv)

519 Miley said she was switching her vote from Trump to Kanye. ----- Rocket scientist that one. Kanye said he is running in 2020.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 08:00 AM (8XRCm)

520 482 Virginia has become a blue state" Ahem. When (outside of a few years in the late 80s and early 90s) was Byrdland "blue" (as in Democrat)? Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 12:51 PM (C9pBZ) It went to Obama in both '08 and '12.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at August 31, 2015 08:00 AM (RD7QR)

521 Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 12:59 PM (J9rqz) Thanks. Your quoting Miley is testing my resolve to refrain from personal attacks. Need the practice.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 08:01 AM (xWW96)

522 Poutine sounds delicious to me, I'd love to try it some day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:01 AM (39g3+)

523 I can come back here and dole out great assholish heaping helpings of "I told you so". What part of "burn it down" are you not understanding?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at August 31, 2015 08:01 AM (kff5f)

524 @ Fixerupper - yes agreed. Just using her words as a belwether. See also Stump for Trump girls.

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 08:01 AM (J9rqz)

525 Most people's closest encounters with nature is their, or their neighbors' pet dog or cat. They have no concept of 'wild animal." Encounters of this class of people with truly wild/feral animals generally result in hilarity. For certain definitions of hilarity. Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 01:00 PM (JvPqF) ------ ..... and these people also like to call themselves "environmentalists".

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 08:01 AM (8XRCm)

526 @ Maddog... i miss the flame wars... :-)

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 08:02 AM (J9rqz)

527 507 Raccoons are meaner that Satan. Feeding them is asking for a buttload of trouble.
Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 12:57 PM (xWW96)



Yes, and intelligent and surprisingly dextrous to boot. They're quite good at dealing with gates, trash can lids, etc.


I wouldn't have stepped out on that deck with a couple dozen rambunctious raccoons on it, never mind letting my toddler do it. Madness.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:02 AM (oKE6c)

528 Poutine sounds delicious to me, I'd love to try it some day. Come with me to watch girl's gymnastics practice some Saturday.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 31, 2015 08:03 AM (8ZskC)

529 Look at what states they're from. Look at primary schedule state by state. Aside from a few THEY were all fake candidates to let Jeb! slide in. It's like I'm taking crazy pills. Graham is an embarrasment but he's still in there. Why? Splitter for third primary state, SC. Posted by: prescient11 I just don't buy into that, I don't think politicians go through the meat grinder of running for President and twisting donors arms all because they so love Jeb Bush and want him to win. I doubt if many of these guys have so much as met the guy. And most of them actually take away Establishment votes. A Graham voter or a Kasich voter is a Jeb voter, so how does it help Jeb? They run because every politician has a giant ego and they all want to be President. If they have a state that's early in the line up, they have the outside possibility of catching fire, so they take their shot and maybe next time around they get a little closer. Or maybe get on the VP slot and are next in line. I just don't buy into the big conspiracies, I just see it being a lot of ego.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 08:03 AM (/HKwL)

530 They have no concept of 'wild animal."

Encounters of this class of people with truly wild/feral animals generally result in hilarity. For certain definitions of hilarity.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 01:00 PM (JvPqF)



He's looking at me, isn't he?

Posted by: Timothy Treadwell[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:03 AM (oKE6c)

531 Fuck all y'all, now I want poutine and Timbits.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 08:03 AM (mf5HN)

532 The world may burn, but Barack will focus on what truly matters. He is in Alaska to appear on Running Wild. Because he is Celebrity Of The US Tiny Url http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/barack-obama-gear-grylls-nbc-1201581763/

Posted by: Can I Get A Barf Bag Here? at August 31, 2015 08:03 AM (Q8y6V)

533 Carly Fiorina 10%, Ted Cruz 9%, Scott Walker 7%, Jeb Bush 5%, John Kasich, Marco Rubio 4%, Rand Paul 3%, Mike Huckabee,Rick Santorum 2% Kasich has no percentage. He is the D-Day of the campaign ("Daniel Simpson Day... Has no grade point average. All classes incomplete"). Kasich Fever, catch it!

Posted by: wooga at August 31, 2015 08:04 AM (bplPQ)

534 If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman. *** Rare surveillance photo of the head Ewok in action: http://preview.tinyurl.com/qz7u8pv

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 08:04 AM (mvenn)

535 527 @ Maddog... i miss the flame wars... :-) Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 01:02 PM (J9rqz) We haven't had an insult thread since I can remember. We need to go to the mattresses every 5 years, every 10 years. Gets the bad blood out.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at August 31, 2015 08:04 AM (RD7QR)

536 Considering all of the Islamic cells nestled in Canada, I don't think a Northern wall is a bad idea. However, the way that Walker handled that....was bad. Posted by: Cheri at August 31, 2015 12:54 PM (oiNtH) There's a shitload of islamic cells in the USA, too. Where did the Garland shooters come from, but a mosque in Phoenix. IIRC, all the 9/11 hijackers entered the USA legally.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 08:04 AM (aRgrb)

537 Whoops: Tiny Url, if it matters- http://tinyurl.com/qd5furt

Posted by: Can I Get A Barf Bag Here? at August 31, 2015 08:05 AM (Q8y6V)

538 Fuck all y'all, now I want poutine and Timbits. Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:03 PM (mf5HN) Open Borders Fanatic!

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:05 AM (JvPqF)

539 The good thing about Trump's ego is that he likes to win, and will fight to win.

Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 08:05 AM (cbfNE)

540 It went to Obama in both '08 and '12. Arrgh. Didn't put in "not" there... kinda ruined the whole thingy then.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:05 AM (C9pBZ)

541 533 The world may burn, but Barack will focus on what truly matters. He is in Alaska to appear on Running Wild. Because he is Celebrity Of The US
Tiny Url http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/barack-obama-gear-grylls-nbc-1201581763/
Posted by: Can I Get A Barf Bag Here? at August 31, 2015 01:03 PM (Q8y6V)



We (or more accurately, "they") didn't elect a President. They elected a Prom King.

Posted by: Timothy Treadwell[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:05 AM (oKE6c)

542 Just to clarify at 509, Virginia is NOT a traditionally red state. Look at governorship history.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 31, 2015 08:05 AM (SCcgT)

543 We haven't had an insult thread since I can remember. We need to go to the mattresses every 5 years, every 10 years. Gets the bad blood out. Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at August 31, 2015 01:04 PM (RD7QR) We need to get all rapey first, don't we?

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:05 AM (JvPqF)

544 Sock off.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:06 AM (oKE6c)

545 @joncelli - should we run it up the flagpole with the cobs? as a former offensive lineman, I relish a good dust-up.

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 08:06 AM (J9rqz)

546 Encounters of this class of people with truly wild/feral animals generally result in hilarity. For certain definitions of hilarity. Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 01:00 PM (JvPqF) Rule #1 for going outside: Outside is trying to kill you. Rule #2: We're not the top of the food chain for any reason other than our Brains. Turn off that little part of your brain that should see other creatures either as predator or prey at your own risk. My personal belief is that 3 sentient squirrels working together would have pretty good luck against the modern man.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2015 08:06 AM (kKHcp)

547 541 anon, I got what you meant.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 31, 2015 08:06 AM (SCcgT)

548 See, Trump is the float to ruin the parade in Animal House. Yep. He's a giant not foam middle finger to the GOP establishment and politicians in general. He's the American people saying "the hell with both parties." And the more the establishment and the press freaks out, the more attractive he becomes. There's a lot of theories that have merit, but ultimately they just ginned up the turnout in the black community to off the charts levels that no one was predicting and our side just did a poor job with that Just how many black voters who only voted in 2012 do you really think there are??

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:06 AM (39g3+)

549 "Oh but CNN is still employing an algorithm which will most likely keep Mick Huckabee in and kick Carly Fiorina out."

Why should CNN change their methodology that was set months ago?  Carly the RINO whiner must have sand stuck in her vagina.

Posted by: Melissa at August 31, 2015 08:06 AM (oVJwL)

550 For certain definitions of hilarity." Well, I laughed at Grizzly dude, so there's that...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:06 AM (C9pBZ)

551 Virginia has become a blue state" Ahem. When (outside of a few years in the late 80s and early 90s) was Byrdland "blue" (as in Democrat)? Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 12:51 PM (C9pBZ) It went to Obama in both '08 and '12. Posted by: joncelli And then Republican McDonnell won the state by like 20 points in 2009 and brought a huge Republican Legislature with it. McDonnell's issues were at least part of the reason Cuccinelli lost. It's a purple state that has trended against us, but it's not unwinnable for a Republican.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 08:06 AM (/HKwL)

552 Fuck all y'all, now I want poutine and Timbits. I would have said you can have them all until someone upthread mentioned making the gravy with duck fat. And if you fried the Timbits in duck fat...

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (JtwS4)

553 Carson spent decades in Baltimore with Johns Hopkins. Very Left wing political atmosphere. Hopkins (the University and not Med School) is the source of super special scientific irrefutable "studies" like how "millions" were killed by "Bush's illegal wars" and how gun control actually saves the world everywhere despite every single study done ever. In other words, he's been steeped in Obama style crap most of his career and so, being a smart guy, his moderate stances sound radical in the current atmosphere. It was just a couple of years ago he came out strongly for gun control and has slowly modified that position to be basically no guns in cities. Of course the Black inner city in Baltimore is a free fire zone and don't think he doesn't get pressure from Black Leaders to ban guns because, uh, well, they can't educate or control their base supporters who prefer thug life to selling out to Whitey. Sounds racist but try being White in Baltimore and you'll find out really quickly how strongly the Black populace is indoctrinated into racism against Whites. They fucking hate White people and it is encouraged by media and politicians.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (NHtMs)

554 I can come back here and dole out great assholish heaping helpings of "I told you so".

What's going to be most fun about that is we get to say

'Hey, we nominated a northeastern liberal with crossover appeal like you guys are always telling us we need to do, because 'electable' '.

Posted by: Methos at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (ZbV+0)

555 I'm out to lunch... been nice de-lurking. Catch up soon...

Posted by: RedWhiteandTrue at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (J9rqz)

556 Easier to nudge back Virginia and Florida, than try and drag Pennsylvania in a direction it never goes outside of landslide election -- at which point you don't need them anyway. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 12:48 PM (kdS6q) You're not going to nudge Virginia back unless you gut Washington. Its now filled with people that work in the government that they will always go with their self interest. And so many Beltway style Republicans that they will work for a Democrat rather than risk voting for a Republican that might be "too extreme" for their tastes.

Posted by: Edna Mode at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (zt+N6)

557 "Yes, and intelligent and surprisingly dextrous to boot. They're quite good at dealing with gates, trash can lids, etc. " And sharp-assed little teeth too. Get ahold of you and he'll do some tearing up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (LA7Cm)

558 Trump could actually win this.

Posted by: Amos Grossback at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (kUjwP)

559 Hmm, poutine doesn't sound too bad. I'd try some. Considering that back home in Alabama, we make gravy with coffee, yeah. Still don't know what Timbits are. Your Yankee/Canuck foodstuffs frighten and confuse me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (LUgeY)

560 Rare surveillance photo of the head Ewok in action: ------------ Are those Twinkies that he is carrying?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (9mTYi)

561 Hell, by that point he's done with Batman and just adding to his crispy sock collection. Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 31, 2015 12:04 PM (Wckf4) Crispy sock collection??? Jesus Jenny, you owe me the whiskey and diet 7Up I just spit all over my keyboard.

Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (w1ewr)

562 Both Trump and Carson are up big in this poll compared to the July poll.  Jeb is way down.

Posted by: Rufus T at August 31, 2015 08:07 AM (oVJwL)

563 My personal belief is that 3 sentient squirrels working together would have pretty good luck against the modern man. Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2015 01:06 PM (kKHcp) You are correct. I have a squirrel. Sharp as hell and hates the world, especially Alexthechick.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 08:08 AM (xWW96)

564

"Virginia has become a blue state"

Ahem. When (outside of a few years in the late 80s and early 90s) was Byrdland "blue" (as in Democrat)?"

 

I hear you, but demographics are different.  Arlington and Fairfax counties are now just flooded with Fed Gov workers, and they overwhelmingly prefer Dems.   

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2015 08:08 AM (OD2ni)

565 541 anon, I got what you meant." Whew. Thanks!

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:08 AM (C9pBZ)

566 /off sock

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2015 08:08 AM (zt+N6)

567 Still don't know what Timbits are. Your Yankee/Canuck foodstuffs frighten and confuse me. Posted by: BackwardsBoy ------------- Wait until they start talking about 'Smoked meat sandwiches'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 08:08 AM (9mTYi)

568
Anyone thinking Virginia has been traditionally red either doesn't live here or isn't up on VA history. Or both.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller



Red 8 out of the last 10.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 08:09 AM (kdS6q)

569 Well, I laughed at Grizzly dude, so there's that... Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 01:06 PM (C9pBZ) He *did* want to "get closer to nature," didn't he?

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:09 AM (JvPqF)

570 How can it be that a guy who is so good at thinking and talking on his feet, like Rick Perry, and who hires the brightest and most loyal political advisors, like Steve Schmidt, could do so poorly in the polls. Life's a fucking mystery.

Posted by: jwest at August 31, 2015 08:09 AM (Zs4uk)

571

"Both Trump and Carson are up big in this poll compared to the July poll. Jeb is way down."

 

I'm gonna cry. 

Posted by: Rick Wilson, GOP Strategist at August 31, 2015 08:09 AM (OD2ni)

572 "Or, Batman is going really well for him right now." He's flapping that cape, and pounding that controller like it owes him money.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 08:09 AM (VPLuQ)

573 He's flapping that cape, and pounding that controller like it owes him money. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 01:09 PM (VPLuQ) Another euphemism?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:10 AM (2Ojst)

574 >>>I'm calling it right now, there is going to be a Trump-Cruz ticket. Posted by: prescient11 Cut. Jib.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:10 AM (NHtMs)

575 He *did* want to "get closer to nature," didn't he? Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 01:09 PM (JvPqF) The bears were his bestis buddies. Had him and his GF over for dinner.....

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 08:10 AM (xWW96)

576 Open Borders Fanatic! Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 01:05 PM (JvPqF) My theory is that if someone can make it through the snow, wilderness, polar bears, brown bears, grizzly bears and rattlesnakes, then mazel tov but you better have my Timbits.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 08:10 AM (mf5HN)

577 What dat?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:10 AM (0FSuD)

578 Another euphemism? Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:10 PM (2Ojst) A bit early to go full ONT, but . . .

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:10 AM (JvPqF)

579 Treadwell, lol. and what was the name of the guy from Australia that died from a stingray? Play with knives and you will get cut.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 08:11 AM (PfVjp)

580 He *did* want to "get closer to nature," didn't he? No Sh**... er, we've beat that joke to death, no?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:11 AM (C9pBZ)

581 561 Hmm, poutine doesn't sound too bad. I'd try some. Considering that back home in Alabama, we make gravy with coffee, yeah. Still don't know what Timbits are. Your Yankee/Canuck foodstuffs frighten and confuse me. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:07 PM (LUgeY) Donut Holes. That's probably what you know them by. They're only called Timbits by Tim Hortons.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2015 08:11 AM (zt+N6)

582 I just don't buy into the big conspiracies, I just see it being a lot of ego. Yeah, these guys all think its their chance, their time. They believe they are truly great and destined for big things, that they can fix everything and lead the nation to a better place. The ego in anyone who would seriously run for president is vast. Yuuuge, even.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:11 AM (39g3+)

583 575 >>>I'm calling it right now, there is going to be a Trump-Cruz ticket.
Posted by: prescient11

Put down the bong.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:11 AM (0FSuD)

584 Rule #2: We're not the top of the food chain for any reason other than our Brains. Turn off that little part of your brain that should see other creatures either as predator or prey at your own risk. My personal belief is that 3 sentient squirrels working together would have pretty good luck against the modern man. When I go out on my inlaws 150 acres, I go with no less than a rifle and a pistol. And that's just to go fishing.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 08:11 AM (E9ede)

585 You can't get closer to a bear than its lower GI tract.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 08:12 AM (XiVKO)

586 Ok, let me try this again: When (outside of a few years in the late 80s and early 90s) was Byrdland NOT "blue" (as in Democrat)?" There. Muchbettergooder.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:12 AM (C9pBZ)

587 My theory is that if someone can make it through the snow, wilderness, polar bears, brown bears, grizzly bears and rattlesnakes, then mazel tov but you better have my Timbits. Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:10 PM (mf5HN) I can have Timbits in my hand in under 10 minutes here in West Central Ohio.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2015 08:12 AM (zt+N6)

588 Still don't know what Timbits are. Your Yankee/Canuck foodstuffs frighten and confuse me. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:07 PM (LUgeY) Timbits are simply donut holes; little spheres of donut dough. Awesome hash, by the way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 08:12 AM (aRgrb)

589 I hear you, but demographics are different. Arlington and Fairfax counties are now just flooded with Fed Gov workers, and they overwhelmingly prefer Dems. Posted by: Benji Carver Massive Muslim immigration there. Honduran and Salvadoran illegals and legals everywhere. All vote Dem.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:13 AM (NHtMs)

590 They (GOPe) would keep Trump Fiorina and Cruz out if they to find a way.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at August 31, 2015 08:13 AM (1ijHg)

591
Presidential candidate Rick Perry now has just one paid staffer left on his Iowa team but plans to continue seeking Iowans votes for the GOP caucuses, aides told The Des Moines Register on Monday morning.

Karen Fesler, Perrys Iowa co-chair, has moved back to the team for presidential candidate Rick Santorum, the candidate she supported in the 2012 cycle.



Ooooo -- gut shot!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 08:13 AM (kdS6q)

592 I hear you, but demographics are different. Arlington and Fairfax counties are now just flooded with Fed Gov workers, and they overwhelmingly prefer Dems. Posted by: Benji Carver Northern Virginia has always had a lot of government workers though. I would love to see a comparison of how many more fed government workers are in VA from 2004 (which Bush won easily) and 2012. My guess is you're talking about .1% of the voter base. The GOP lost VA in 2014 by a whisker to an entrenched, popular incumbent. I will concede that VA has gone from reliably red to purple, but it's a winnable state for us. I wouldn't mark it down as say Maryland.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 08:14 AM (/HKwL)

593 If the pubbie candidates had any balls they would boycott CNN's debate.

Posted by: NUECES at August 31, 2015 08:14 AM (avlDR)

594 But I think donut holes come in different flavors and are mad from their own cutter, which is not true of donut holes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2015 08:14 AM (OSs/l)

595 P 11.  For your reading enjoyment.


http://tinyurl.com/qxq5afv

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:14 AM (0FSuD)

596
Not much to add, except ha ha GOPe you brought it on yourselves.  3 non-career politicians leading the pack in Iowa and the 4th you see as an enemy. 

You have some work to do getting your GOPe amnesty lovin jeb or kasich to the top.  Better get working on the party rules.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 08:14 AM (ODxAs)

597 Maybe when Obama is out with Bear Grylls he will run into a mama grizzly.

Posted by: Can I Get A Barf Bag Here? at August 31, 2015 08:14 AM (Q8y6V)

598 Wait until they start talking about 'Smoked meat sandwiches'. Let me guess: they're not smoked or meat. Nor sandwiches. Are they?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:15 AM (LUgeY)

599 I have not read any of the comments but I respect each and everyone opinion.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2015 08:15 AM (/HC6x)

600 Wait until they start talking about 'Smoked meat sandwiches'. I steam mine.

Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at August 31, 2015 08:15 AM (2Ojst)

601 My personal belief is that 3 sentient squirrels working together would have pretty good luck against the modern man. ------------- I could hold off half the Navy with just a slingshot and six pissed-off, well-trained oysters on the half shell.

Posted by: Bull Meecham at August 31, 2015 08:15 AM (9mTYi)

602 He's flapping that cape, and pounding that controller like it owes him money. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 01:09 PM (VPLuQ) Well, it rhymes with "flapping,"

Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2015 08:15 AM (vgIRn)

603 *flamethrows buzzion* What's going to be most fun about that is we get to say 'Hey, we nominated a northeastern liberal with crossover appeal like you guys are always telling us we need to do, because 'electable' '. Posted by: Methos at August 31, 2015 01:07 PM (ZbV+0) Oh. My. Stars. And. Garters. I hadn't thought of that. NOOOO DON'T MAKE ME LIKE TRUMP NOOOO

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 08:15 AM (mf5HN)

604
I'm calling it right now, there is going to be a Trump-Cruz ticket.
Posted by: prescient11




Trump/Thom Tillis

Because you need a stherious consthervative on the ticket....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 08:16 AM (kdS6q)

605 You know what another mystery is? Back when Mike Flynn was running for congress, I wondered why he didn't go after Sarah Palin's endorsement. Flynn had written an article years ago about how nobody had even heard of Deb Fisher in Nebraska until Palin campaigned for her. What was the deal?

Posted by: jwest at August 31, 2015 08:16 AM (Zs4uk)

606 Considering that back home in Alabama, we make gravy with coffee, yeah. Red Eye gravy is goood. Only people who haven't tried it think it sounds bad.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:16 AM (39g3+)

607 Is smiked meat much like bearded clam?

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 08:16 AM (xWW96)

608 I don't know if it was the Grizzly guy, but I saw a short clip on one of the animal channels where this little shrimp turns to the camera and says, (more or less) There is a juvenile bear giving me the eye and I hate to discipline the guy but I have to defend my territory. Then he turns and runs toward the bear, and the bear turns and runs off. I thought, ya buddy, you bluff like that very often and one day one of those guys will call it.

Posted by: Amos Grossback at August 31, 2015 08:16 AM (kUjwP)

609 607 Considering that back home in Alabama, we make gravy with coffee, yeah. Red Eye gravy is goood. Only people who haven't tried it think it sounds bad. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 01:16 PM (39g3+) I've had it, couple of times. Don't like it at all.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:16 AM (2Ojst)

610 Well, it rhymes with "flapping," Crapping.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 08:16 AM (E9ede)

611 Yuuuge.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at August 31, 2015 08:17 AM (Jj/2n)

612 604 *flamethrows buzzion* What's going to be most fun about that is we get to say 'Hey, we nominated a northeastern liberal with crossover appeal like you guys are always telling us we need to do, because 'electable' '. Posted by: Methos at August 31, 2015 01:07 PM (ZbV+0) Oh. My. Stars. And. Garters. I hadn't thought of that. NOOOO DON'T MAKE ME LIKE TRUMP NOOOO Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:15 PM (mf5HN) Corpse desecration is a crime. And just remember. Trump as President is probably the only way to get Congress to actually do their job and begin rolling back Executive Overreach.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2015 08:17 AM (zt+N6)

613 "Maybe when Obama is out with Bear Grylls he will run into a mama grizzly." Grylis introduces Obama to the old trick of rubbing yourself down with salmon oil prior to going into the woods. Repels mosquitos, or so I've been told. Bacon grease works also. And wear a pik-A-Nik basket on your head for sun protection.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 08:18 AM (VPLuQ)

614 I thought, ya buddy, you bluff like that very often and one day one of those guys will call it. Posted by: Amos Grossback at August 31, 2015 01:16 PM (kUjwP) It'll be that small female bear who happens to have her two cubs behind her. Oops.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:18 AM (JvPqF)

615 Let me guess: they're not smoked or meat. Nor sandwiches. Are they? Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:15 PM (LUgeY) Out west in Alberta, it's called "Montreal Smoked Meat", on account of it originated in Jewish delis in Montreal. Similar, if not identical, to pastrami. Yummy, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2015 08:18 AM (aRgrb)

616 That is yuge. This was a poll of likely caucus goers though, right? Not a poll of everyone in Iowa?

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 08:18 AM (AkOaV)

617 "Yes, and intelligent and surprisingly dextrous to boot. They're quite good at dealing with gates, trash can lids, etc. "


And sharp-assed little teeth too. Get ahold of you and he'll do some tearing up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 01:07 PM (LA7Cm)

 

Opposable thumbs, baby, opposable thumbs.

Posted by: Rocky Raccoon, In Your Trash And Lovin It at August 31, 2015 08:19 AM (Bvf82)

618 I don't want to look this up, so what is "Running Wild"? Can Obama be eaten by a grizzly while during it? What I first think of on hearing "Running wild" is the song sung by Marilyn Monroe in "Song Like it Hot". Either Jack Lemmon or Tony Curtis (dressed as women) sing part of it too. So now I'm thinking of Obama in drag-running wild.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2015 08:19 AM (OSs/l)

619 My understanding is that most of Perry's staffers have been eaten by coyotes. That's the only reason he is in a bind. Tragic really.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:20 AM (NHtMs)

620 Trump/Thom Tillis Because you need a stherious consthervative on the ticket.... Posted by: Laurie David ------------------------ Nip's ears are likely burning... or not.

Posted by: Bull Meecham at August 31, 2015 08:20 AM (9mTYi)

621 So, everybody knows Tim Horton was a hockey player. Anybody actually remember him? He lived and died a Moron, which is why his name is so popular all over the North. Plus, his widow went to her grave enjoining that she'd been ripped off getting only $1 million for his name.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 08:20 AM (xq1UY)

622 Trump/Thom Tillis

Because you need a stherious consthervative on the ticket....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 01:16 PM (kdS6q)







Greg Brannon was unavailable for comment, he is still trying to pay off his judgement for stock fraud.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:20 AM (0FSuD)

623

"The GOP lost VA in 2014 by a whisker to an entrenched, popular incumbent.

I will concede that VA has gone from reliably red to purple, but it's a winnable state for us. I wouldn't mark it down as say Maryland."

 

Oh I agree with you that VA is still winnable, but it will require a good candidate and effort.  Romney ran an awful GOTV effort there. They should have studied what Rove did in 2004. However, as a resident of MD, it is weird to have a conservative governor while VA has McCauliffe.      

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2015 08:20 AM (OD2ni)

624 Off with Marine berserker sock.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 08:21 AM (9mTYi)

625 Prescient, you're right that was a gratuitous personal attack and I apologize. The problem is you go too far. Its one thing to say "I like what Trump is saying because F the GOP and why not someone crazy to shake things up?" Its another entirely to say "well tax increases on the rich are okay because its just this once, and who cares if until this year he was a solid Democrat and is now campaigning with Bill Clinton's rhetoric from 1992, because he's secretly really conservative and he's guaranteed to win and anyone who disagrees is a total Jeb Bush fan!!1!!1!" I mean... being a fanboy for a politician like those drooling idiots for Obama in '08 is just ugly and humiliating.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:21 AM (39g3+)

626 "I could hold off half the Navy with just a slingshot and six pissed-off, well-trained oysters on the half shell." Stop picking on the Wardroom, and come on down to the Mess Decks and Goat Locker for a bit. J/K

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 08:21 AM (VPLuQ)

627 Awesome hash, by the way. Thanks. It's named after Pixy's hamster that was sacrificed in order to get me unbanninated. He will not be forgotten. Also, please to be using the soft "G" so as not to confuse with oyster.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:21 AM (LUgeY)

628 Dick 'Dick' and daughter Liz on Rush right now! How about this one? Cheney (either or)/Limbaugh 2016. Call it the American Constitution Party ticket.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2015 08:21 AM (go5uR)

629 "Oh but CNN is still employing an algorithm which will most likely keep Mick Huckabee in and kick Carly Fiorina out."

So there's an angry grassroots rebellion against the Republican establishment class, but the debates are going to continue to be held predominantly on liberal networks such as CNN, moderated by liberals, and asking the sorts of ridiculously biased questions that liberal "moderators" asked in 2012, because the idiots from the establishment Republicans who sit on the debate commission didn't see anything wrong with that idea.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 08:22 AM (noWW6)

630 Opposable thumbs, baby, opposable thumbs. Posted by: Rocky Raccoon, In Your Trash And Lovin It at August 31, 2015 01:19 PM (Bvf82) Sure helped you out when I stole your woman and shot you down in the saloon. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Posted by: Danny boy at August 31, 2015 08:22 AM (2Ojst)

631 These polls are seriously underestimating the depth and reach of Patakimania..... Feel the burn.

Posted by: Let me know when this gets old. at August 31, 2015 08:22 AM (/HC6x)

632 What dead white guy thingy should I rename next?

Posted by: Prez'nit Denali at August 31, 2015 08:22 AM (Jj/2n)

633 Nature wants to kill you.

Which reminds me, a Henry Big Boy would be pretty sweet. Though I don't think I've ever seen one locally.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 08:22 AM (XiVKO)

634 Just so you all will know that the gloves are off.


WSJ is now comparing Trump to Wallace in 68




http://tinyurl.com/q5tbyav

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:23 AM (0FSuD)

635
Most of the others on the Perry team have already found jobs with other GOP organizations.

Perry's unpaid Iowa strategist Bob Haus said "There is a light at the end of the tunnel, we've seen it, and we'll emerge."





Mein Fuehrer -- Steiner....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 08:23 AM (kdS6q)

636 Greg Brannon was unavailable for comment, he is still trying to pay off his judgement for stock fraud. --------------- Tillis, on the other hand, is making his payments right on time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 08:23 AM (9mTYi)

637 "WSJ is now comparing Trump to Wallace in 68" Apparently no one at the WSJ was alive in '68.

Posted by: Amos Grossback at August 31, 2015 08:24 AM (kUjwP)

638 The main reason that Virginia is turning blue is legal and illegal immigration. NoVa has become delightfully .... diverse. That tips the scale in a close election. Well, imaginative casting and counting --- i.e., fraud --- helps at the margins too.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 08:24 AM (cN9Sk)

639 Tillis, on the other hand, is making his payments right on time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 01:23 PM (9mTYi)


Mike, Lame.    If you want to fvck with Thom, you should have said "Tillis is GETTING his payments right on time."



Try again.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:24 AM (0FSuD)

640 635 Just so you all will know that the gloves are off. WSJ is now comparing Trump to Wallace in 68 Wallace, Huey Long... These people sure do like to compare Trump to people who got shot while running for president.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 31, 2015 08:25 AM (Oodza)

641 ...presidential candidate Rick Santorum... The concept that Rick Santorum is even considered a "presidential candidate" is very concerning

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 31, 2015 08:25 AM (ZQfW9)

642 Cheney is on Rush talking up his book. While stressing that Obama has destroyed our military apparently as policy producing chaos in his claimed war against ISIS, Cheney said "This shift...." but he had a poor connection and it sounded like, "This Shit...". Heh. It amused me. OOOH look, a cat video!

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:25 AM (NHtMs)

643

CNN is still employing an algorithm which will most likely keep Mick Huckabee in and kick Carly Fiorina out."



That "algorithm" is a simple rolling average.  Transparent and easy to calculate, as those who wish too can and have been doing.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 08:25 AM (kdS6q)

644 WSJ is now comparing Trump to Wallace in 68 Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 01:23 PM (0FSuD) Yes I saw that. They don't make much mention (one brief little aside halfway through the article) of the fact that Wallace was a Democrat. Just an observation. But yeah, it's a cheap shot.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 08:25 AM (AkOaV)

645 What dead white guy thingy should I rename next?" Try the monument on the San Jacinto river. I dare you.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:25 AM (C9pBZ)

646 "Which reminds me, a Henry Big Boy would be pretty sweet." Good. Gun.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 08:25 AM (LA7Cm)

647 The Daily Mail's getting a whole Malaysian airliner's mileage out of Vester Flanagan: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216957 Wonder how much they paid the 'friend' who handed this over. Twink rentboy who was getting too old and too chubby to get the expensive dates. Will any of this show up in the manifesto?

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (This Week) at August 31, 2015 08:26 AM (o+SC1)

648 Which reminds me, a Henry Big Boy would be pretty sweet. Though I don't think I've ever seen one locally.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 01:22 PM (XiVKO)

 

I get their catalog.  The Henry's (particularly the big bore 'Big Boy' Henry's) are sweet but way too pricey, in my view.

Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 08:26 AM (Bvf82)

649 These people sure do like to compare Trump to people who got shot while running for president.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 31, 2015 01:25 PM (Oodza)



Well, they never include Robert Kennedy.  Or the fact a Palestine Mohammedan shot him

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:27 AM (0FSuD)

650 That "algorithm" is a simple rolling average. Transparent and easy to calculate, as those who wish too can and have been doing. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 01:25 PM (kdS6q) Yeah, but why a rolling average? And who decides how long to trail it? And who decides which polls are involved? This is how they game these things. It's easy to manipulate the numbers to say whatever you want them to say.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 08:27 AM (AkOaV)

651 Well, imaginative casting and counting --- i.e., fraud --- helps at the margins too. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 01:24 PM (cN9Sk) I'm not sure that, despite the good efforts of True The Vote and others, that the 'margin of fraud' is not steadily increasing in the D's favor. It may already be borderline impossible for anyone but a D to win a Presidential election because the D's can game the system with dead Chicagoans, bussed in Somalis, mail-in ballots and other trickery.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:27 AM (JvPqF)

652 The concept that Rick Santorum is even considered a "presidential candidate" is very concerning

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 31, 2015 01:25 PM (ZQfW9)

 

It's his job--no, seriously, I mean it:  Running for President is Rick Santorum's profession, what he does, all he does.

Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 08:28 AM (Bvf82)

653 However, as a resident of MD, it is weird to have a conservative governor while VA has McCauliffe. Posted by: Benji Carver Agreed If a Republican can win Maryland on an anti-tax platform, it has to make even the cynics optimistic. The GOP has made a lot of dumb mistakes that can explain VA. Cuccinelli was a poor nominee and was something of a freak show with his SoCon views (like bringing back sodomy laws) and then you had the backdrop of the outgoing Republican Governor going to prison. But even then, it came down to a whisker. It's just not a typical Southern state and it's not in the bag for either party.

Posted by: Coolio at August 31, 2015 08:28 AM (/HKwL)

654 "WSJ is now comparing Trump to Wallace in 68"

Ah, another fine Rupert Murdoch press organ.

What's Roop gonna do when the wheels finally do come off of the Bush bandwagon? Will he pull the sort of strategic realignment that he did in the UK during the early rise of Tony Blair, where he abruptly changed the editorial line at all of the Murdoch papers to pro-Labour?

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 08:28 AM (noWW6)

655 So, obama named a mountain after a car?

Posted by: that's just retarded, sir at August 31, 2015 08:28 AM (PfVjp)

656 Half of the GOP candidates could disappear from the earth today and the next day nobody would notice. I just wish guys like Christie and Graham and Kasich and Santorum, Huckabee, etc would just go away. Its so frustrating seeing otherwise godly, conservative people go "ooh Huckabee, he sounds Christian" and wanting to vote for him. He's a terrible choice, even if he had a remotely speck-like chance.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:29 AM (39g3+)

657 #408 #343 This could be the first national ballot printed in Italian...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 31, 2015 08:29 AM (Kucy5)

658 So this is a yuuuugggeeee thread?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 08:29 AM (zSvKA)

659 648 The Daily Mail's getting a whole Malaysian airliner's mileage out of Vester Flanagan: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216957 Wonder how much they paid the 'friend' who handed this over. Twink rentboy who was getting too old and too chubby to get the expensive dates. Will any of this show up in the manifesto? Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (This Week) at August 31, 2015 01:26 PM (o+SC1) Wow, did this guy have problems. I mean, we knew that already, but good grief.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:29 AM (2Ojst)

660 When I go out on my inlaws 150 acres, I go with no less than a rifle and a pistol. And that's just to go fishing. Posted by: rickb223 I carry that much to go downtown.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 08:29 AM (C278+)

661 Looks like that Not-Jeb Strategy of dividing the base has utterly, utterly failed.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 31, 2015 08:29 AM (oVJmc)

662
This was a poll of likely caucus goers though, right? Not a poll of everyone in Iowa?
Posted by: mynewhandle



Given that the caucus goer, not the state at large, pick the delegates*, that what matters.

*technically, pick the delegates to pick the delegates to....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 31, 2015 08:30 AM (kdS6q)

663 Va is turning purple because of all the government employees in N Va that commute to DC. Fairfax county has turned into a hell hole of liberals




Illegal immigrant have nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:30 AM (0FSuD)

664 In case you didn't read the "Peggy Noonan gets a clue" article, it's here: http://on.wsj.com/1MSi3Rx

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 31, 2015 08:30 AM (5HBd1)

665 imaginative casting and counting" Yeah. The old home district was "administered" by Moran's kid and "we don't need no XOM here" Connelly. Amazingly enough, there were as many registered voters as adults. Voter participation of 100 percent. Shocking, no?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:30 AM (C9pBZ)

666 662 Looks like that Not-Jeb Strategy of dividing the base has utterly, utterly failed. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 31, 2015 01:29 PM (oVJmc) The achilles heel was that nobody wanted to vote for Jeb except Karl Rove and a few billionaire slaveowners.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 31, 2015 08:30 AM (Oodza)

667 That "algorithm" is a simple rolling average. Its front-loaded, designed to get name recognition candidates a position above anyone else that's gaining momentum. They started the "average" so early that people like Jeb Bush who is known get a hefty advantage in position despite plunging in the polls.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:31 AM (39g3+)

668 >>Twink rentboy who was getting too old and too chubby to get the expensive dates. We're no longer allowed to recognize that some life choices have a high probability of leading to unhappiness. In fact, it's now the norm to blame this unhappiness on other people for being judgey or hatey.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 08:32 AM (NOIQH)

669 Ace is done playing Batman for the moment. New hero thread up.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 08:32 AM (mvenn)

670 "Cuccinelli was a poor nominee and was something of a freak show with his SoCon views (like bringing back sodomy laws) and then you had the backdrop of the outgoing Republican Governor going to prison."

Last time this came up, the sodomy laws question drew an indignant answer that, well, yes, he DID support those laws, but ONLY to try to go after child molesters.

Leaving unanswered the question about Cuccunelli's previous statements about homosexuality being "objectively morally disordered", with no qualifications at all about pedophilia added on.

And yes, McDonnell's self inflicted legal troubles were an obvious problem for the GOP. Though McDonnell basically did briefly on a small scale what Terry McAuliffe had previously done on an industrial scale for decades and continues to do to this day.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 08:33 AM (noWW6)

671 We're no longer allowed to recognize that some life choices have a high probability of leading to unhappiness. And cats. Lots and lots of cats.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:34 AM (C9pBZ)

672 Maybe a 45/70 Henry. That would be even sweeter.

Posted by: Chupacabras at August 31, 2015 08:34 AM (XiVKO)

673 @657 - amen. Huckabee's flavor of Christianity smells a lot like the Unitarian Universalists to me. I would have argued that the 'politician' GOP field needs to reduce to Walker and Cruz in a hurry if we're going to see a real contest, and I'd have thought Carson would be gone by now, and we'd be down to Trump, Fiorina, Walker, and Cruz. But Walker's underperformed, Carson's picked up some support from somewhere, and the Kasichs and the Pauls and etc sit there sucking their 5% or so from a couple others, I have no idea where this is going.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (Th1s Week) at August 31, 2015 08:34 AM (o+SC1)

674 Well, imaginative casting and counting --- i.e., fraud --- helps at the margins too. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 01:24 PM (cN9Sk) I'm not sure that, despite the good efforts of True The Vote and others, that the 'margin of fraud' is not steadily increasing in the D's favor. It may already be borderline impossible for anyone but a D to win a Presidential election because the D's can game the system with dead Chicagoans, bussed in Somalis, mail-in ballots and other trickery. Posted by: filbert Someone posted a link to an article, I think at NRO, the other day that claimed that there were one or two million illegal votes cast in 2008. How many did Mitt lose by in 2012 again?

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:34 AM (NHtMs)

675 @665

Thanks, have not seen it.  Interesting, so Trump is now Mussolini?  




You all did see that article in Real Clear Politics by a former  McLame staffer accusing him of that, right?



Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:35 AM (0FSuD)

676 >>>WSJ is now comparing Trump to Wallace FREEEEEDOM!!!!!!! Yes, Trump IS Walllace!

Posted by: Roberta the Caitlyn at August 31, 2015 08:36 AM (P6Jv8)

677 In case you didn't read the "Peggy Noonan gets a clue" article, it's here: http://on.wsj.com/1MSi3Rx Paywalled.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:37 AM (JvPqF)

678 "And cats. Lots and lots of cats." http://tinyurl.com/nk3rqmo and http://tinyurl.com/o2x7j2r

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 08:37 AM (VPLuQ)

679 Off, blue faced sock.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 08:37 AM (P6Jv8)

680 Walker wants to keep out the Canadian hordes.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (+aCe4)

681 Here's the Link: http://tinyurl.com/nfuo8yl My apologies. It was only about 700,000 in 2008 according to the study.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:39 AM (NHtMs)

682 >>> And, apparently, the empire is planning to strike back. The elites intend to launch a hugenormous ad onslaught against Trump after Labor Day. No whitey after Labor Day!!!

Posted by: Democrats, who want you to forget all their candidates are old and white at August 31, 2015 08:43 AM (hvf9s)

683 My apologies. It was only about 700,000 in 2008 according to the study. Well, considering that a swing of roughly 400K (IIRC) in a handful of states would've changed the election, I'd say that's a valuable tool for the Dims...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (C9pBZ)

684 google search "america is so in play" by noonan. should get you past the pay wall

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 31, 2015 09:06 AM (5HBd1)

685 >>google search "america is so in play" by noonan. should get you past the pay wall Doesn't work for me, and google doesn't cache wsj.com articles.

Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at August 31, 2015 09:09 AM (TULs6)

686 Sorry, have not had time to read but a few comments. Check out Sundance on conservativetreehouse for the strategy of the GOPe and CofC in concert and over the last few years. Their plan was carefully to develop new GOP rules so their boy Yeb could win the nom with just a small majority of the votes -- fracture the rest by supporting beaucoup number of Repubs running. Now that Yeb does not appear capable of even that small, small amount, "they" are developing a new strategy. Watch. All of a sudden lots of funds go his way and lots of media attention saying "Ben, what a nice guy". the puyrpose -- Carson will take votes away from Trump -- the only one capable of taking down GOPe-CofC. Take a look at Carson's anti-gun positions; his position on illegals; his position on taxes (why do these Af-Am Christians want everyone to tithe?); etc. When one looks closely, he is not exactly a nominee to thrill over, much less his lack of experience. And yet, he appears like a nice guy. Maybe a place in the next Admin would be a good place for him -- Surgeon Gen?

Posted by: pyromancer76 at August 31, 2015 09:24 AM (sPfLU)

687 There are a lot of pundits comparing Trump to one historic politician or another, often without much in the way of evidence.  The most thought provoking one I've read noted that as with Perot in ;92, Trump's motivation may largely be personal enmity towards the Bush family.  It seems that Trump threw the best fundraiser ever!  for Jeb when he was governor.  Trump's motive was to help grease the skids for a management contract for a casino hotel on one of the Indian owned parcels in Florida.  Trump has been teed off ever since that didn't happen.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at August 31, 2015 09:28 AM (FHqtt)

688 Intellectual Froglegs has a great video on Trumpmania, which really lays out why people are Trumpified.  (For lack of better verbiage.)

The hell of it is...is that the DC morons don't get it and never will.  The punditocracy keeps giving the oligarchy advice on what the they can do to 'mend fences'.

Do they really think we would believe anything they say at this point?

I may never trust the GOP again, and that is really a sad state of affairs.  I left the Democrats for the same reason.

Posted by: kat at August 31, 2015 11:13 AM (SjUvB)

689
Disclosure:  I'm a self-avowed Carson supporter.

Query:  When in your adult lifetime have you seen a leading Presidential candidate (e.g. Ben Carson), criticize a national media outlet (i.e. CNN), for not allowing another impressive Presidential candidate (i.e. Carly Fiornina), for not being allowed to participate in national debates?

Answer:   Bueller?  Bueller? Bueller? ...




Posted by: Levin at August 31, 2015 07:16 PM (s26zM)

690 errata: Fiornina _> Fiorina

Posted by: Levin at August 31, 2015 07:24 PM (s26zM)

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