March 31, 2014

Homeland Security: Oh FYI- We Released Almost 70,000 Illegal Immigrants Who Had Criminal Records
— DrewM

Obama likes to talk about how he's using his "discretion" in enforcing immigration laws to focus on deporting illegals who have committed crimes (in addition to being here illegally). As in so many other cases, Obama's talk is unrelated to his actions.

“ICE released 68,000 criminal aliens in 2013, or 35 percent of the criminal aliens encountered by officers. The vast majority of these releases occurred because of the Obama administration’s prosecutorial discretion policies,” Jessica Vaughn, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, wrote in a memo summarizing the DHS document.
ICE classifies illegal immigrants as criminal if they have been convicted of a crime, not including traffic offense, Vaughn noted.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (Ala.), the ranking Republican on the Budget Committee, blasted the administration’s record.

“The preponderance of the evidence demonstrates that immigration enforcement in America has collapsed. Even those with criminal convictions are being released. DHS is a department in crisis,” he said in a statement Sunday.

But you know, we can do amnesty because...background checks! What's the matter? Don't you trust Obama?

Well maybe you'll trust...John McCain who once again vowed to work for amnesty because that's what Ted Kennedy would have wanted.

Related(ish)...The GOP establishment has a fever and the only cure is more Jeb "Amnesty" Bush.

Posted by: DrewM at 05:28 AM | Comments (363)
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1 Yeah! Amnesty in the lame duck session! You know its going to happen people!!

Posted by: NWConservative at March 31, 2014 05:29 AM (MDX99)

2 Juan McLame is a senile clusterfuck of a miserable fuckwad.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 05:30 AM (7ObY1)

3 Silver lining: the rumblings for Jeb are merely the after-tremors of Christie going down.

Posted by: AMDG at March 31, 2014 05:30 AM (eFytx)

4 I have a feevah, but it doesn't involve electing Jebbie, McVain or any other bullshitter. By the way, does the US have the sovereign authority to bar the new Iranian ambassador to the UN or did we cede that authority to Turtle Bay denizens when we created the UN?

Posted by: MTF at March 31, 2014 05:31 AM (F58x4)

5 Why even bother with a border?

Fuck this.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 05:31 AM (GQ8sn)

6 3 Silver lining: the rumblings for Jeb are merely the after-tremors of Christie going down. Say, that Lisa Murkowski would make a fine nominee, wouldn't she?

Posted by: The GOPe Elite at March 31, 2014 05:31 AM (7ObY1)

7 By the way, does the US have the sovereign authority to bar the new Iranian ambassador to the UN or did we cede that authority to Turtle Bay denizens when we created the UN? Posted by: MTF at March 31, 2014 10:31 AM (F58x4) As far as I know, no hostage taker has ever been allowed to come to the UN.

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 05:32 AM (659DL)

8 Elect more Republicans so they can negotiate with Obama for the best way to screw us over instead of having to go through icky Harry Reid.

Posted by: NWConservative at March 31, 2014 05:33 AM (MDX99)

9 My friends......

Posted by: John McCain at March 31, 2014 05:33 AM (Aif/5)

10 On top of that 872,000 have been ordered out of the country and have not left because nobody is enforcing the law.  This by itself should be ground for impeachment.


http://tinyurl.com/mmsxwvl

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 05:34 AM (T2V/1)

11 El Marielitos pronto muchachos!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:35 AM (YV5Kj)

12 We need to take the Detroit metro law enforcement model national, especially as it pertains to illegal immigrants with criminal histories.


Posted by: Smith the Welder at March 31, 2014 05:36 AM (LtRGk)

13 Well maybe you'll trust...John McCain who once again vowed to work for amnesty because that's what Ted Kennedy would have wanted.



And people still question whether McLame is actually a Demonrat?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:36 AM (4df7R)

14 My friends...... Posted by: John McCain --------------------------- By god, you have become a meme! The sentence auto-completed itself in my head.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 05:36 AM (aDwsi)

15 So Napolitano's little Sequester stunt was actually just business as usual?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2014 05:37 AM (udjuE)

16 Oh, to be an illegal immigrant with a felony record.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 05:37 AM (gOoFi)

17 My good friend, Teddy Kennedy approved of amnesty, so it's good enough for me, my friendsh..

Besides, I have a lot of lawns at those 12 mansions of mine, and they won't mow themselves!

Posted by: John McCain at March 31, 2014 05:37 AM (Z7PrM)

18 On top of that 872,000 have been ordered out of the country and have not left because nobody is enforcing the law. This by itself should be ground for impeachment.


http://tinyurl.com/mmsxwvl

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 10:34 AM (T2V/1)



Silly Vic!  Don't    you know that it's impossible to even try and force illegals out of the country, because there are just so many of them and    we can't possibly round them all up and ship them home?   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:37 AM (4df7R)

19 Any Country that does not or will not control it's borders is not much of a Country

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 05:38 AM (t3UFN)

20 "Why even bother with a border?" Our point exactly.

Posted by: The Establishment at March 31, 2014 05:38 AM (gOoFi)

21 We better get those illegals out STAT - after all, it's the last day of open enrollment for Obamacare.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 31, 2014 05:38 AM (ye4Wk)

22 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at March 31, 2014 05:38 AM (kFxpe)

23 Just. Fucking. Awesome.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 05:38 AM (DrWcr)

24

Of  course the Obama administration is  prosecuting illegal immigrants!

 

They're prosecuting Toyota,  aren't they? 

 

Case  closed. 

Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2014 05:39 AM (TOk1P)

25 ICE classifies illegal immigrants as criminal if they have been convicted of a crime, not including traffic offense, Vaughn noted.



You know what I find painfully frustrating about that sentence?  


"ICE classifies    illegal   immigrants as criminal    if they have been convicted of a crime, not including traffic offense..."


Hey, jackasses!    How about the fact that they're in this country  FUCKING ILLEGALLY?   Huh?    Last I checked, something that is not legal is a fucking CRIME, and therefore a criminal offense.   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:39 AM (4df7R)

26 Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 10:34 AM (T2V/1) That's extremely serious. This is my serious face. I will investigate this possibility of impeachment after the election and after we finish our investigations of Benghazi, the IRS, F&F, and others in 2046. . .

Posted by: John Boehner at March 31, 2014 05:39 AM (MDX99)

27

Old and Busted:  Rules for regulating the flow of people across our borders.

New Hotness:  Rule for regulating the flow of cow farts.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2014 05:39 AM (nELVU)

28 What amazes me is that McCain promised we had nothing to fear from TFG in the WH. He meant, of course, except for crazed criminal illegals running wild in the streets. Other than that, and world war, you had nothing to fear. Oh, and except for the estruction if the economy. And all our alliances. The Constitution. Personal liberty. Access to medical care. Except for all the peripheral stuff then we have to hint to fear from TFG in the WH says John McCain.

Posted by: MTF at March 31, 2014 05:40 AM (F58x4)

29 You mean, crimes other than breaking and entering an international border, right?

Posted by: t-bird at March 31, 2014 05:40 AM (FcR7P)

30 Well see it from Gaylord's POV.  If he kicks these out, well there goes his Aunt and Uncle.  The ones he never bothers to really help.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:40 AM (YV5Kj)

31 It's not about the rule of law. Now, it's about the rule of Obama.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 05:40 AM (gOoFi)

32
Homeland Security: We Released Almost 70,000 Illegal Immigrants Who Had Criminal Records




Entrepreneurs!  They're natural Republican voters that just need a few millions in outreach to bring them around.

Posted by: Reince "And Repeat" Priebus

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 05:41 AM (kdS6q)

33 When will the GOP start courting American voters? http://tinyurl.com/p2vsbrw

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 31, 2014 05:41 AM (0HooB)

34

No human being is illegal!

 

OK, I think I hurt my brain a little...leftardism is painful!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 05:41 AM (DrWcr)

35 21 We better get those illegals out STAT - after all, it's the last day of open enrollment for Obamacare. Posted by: akula51 at March 31, 2014 10:38 AM (ye4Wk) If they can even sign up with the website being down.

Posted by: NWConservative at March 31, 2014 05:41 AM (MDX99)

36 "How about the fact that they're in this country FUCKING ILLEGALLY? Huh? " Some might construe that as..... RAYCISSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 05:41 AM (gOoFi)

37 It's not about the rule of law. Now, it's about the rule of Obama.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 10:40 AM (gOoFi)



I would pay good money to see Obammy    get up on stage and say,  "I AM the law," and then get punched in the face by Karl Urban dressed as Judge Dredd.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:42 AM (4df7R)

38 Oh, memory fail. [smacks forehead with palm of hand] 'where was it?' that story about commercial growers in kalifabulous what couldn't hire farm labor and just had to have illegals to do farm labor.

It was just yesterday...National Review? Bloomberg View.
Wait. bingit... LATimes, NYTimes? oh memory come back to me.


Posted by: Smith the Welder at March 31, 2014 05:42 AM (LtRGk)

39 What amazes me is that McCain promised we had nothing to fear from TFG in the WH... He wasn't talking to us.

Posted by: t-bird at March 31, 2014 05:42 AM (FcR7P)

40 But I had to pay thousands to legalize my wife in 2013, who moved here from Thailand in 2006, pays taxes, and basically have various Federal agencies learn everything about me, most of which I had to research and find and for which required other fees. And the resulting green card only lasts for 2 years, after which time we must do it all again.

Posted by: Justin at March 31, 2014 05:43 AM (/CnkK)

41 39 What amazes me is that McCain promised we had nothing to fear from TFG in the WH...

He wasn't talking to us.

Posted by: t-bird at March 31, 2014 10:42 AM (FcR7P)

 

Good point.  He was talking to the GOPe.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 05:43 AM (DrWcr)

42

Who or what in the hell is the driver behind this big Jeb Bush push? Jeb Bush is a former, unspectacular governor of a medium-sized state and his last name is Bush: that's it, that's all. Those are his qualifications. Neither his father's and brother's administrations are considered exemplary by historical standards, to put it mildly. Jeb Bush has written no influential books, made no notable speeches, achieved nothing while in public office that has marked him as an exceptional politician.

 

So someone please tell me: why is this pudgy, nondescript, mediocre nobody being shoved in our faces as presumptive frontrunner for the Republican nomination and all-around Next Big Thing?

Posted by: Skeeter Davis in Flat Rock, Indiana at March 31, 2014 05:43 AM (2jF2B)

43 Yay Republicans.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 05:43 AM (L2I78)

44 I wonder if there's a box at the door to the Capitol, monitored by some very nice person, with a sign that says 'Welcome to Washington, please check your brain here'. It's the only explanation for this amnesty nonsense.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 31, 2014 05:43 AM (NSh5j)

45 "Out of the shadows", the phrase overused to tout immigration reform is a meaningless rubric. They are not in the shadows if they are voting, have jobs, and are raking in benefits to which they are entitled. Their first act getting here is a felony, and it usually the first of many--all three things I mentioned are felonies.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at March 31, 2014 05:43 AM (cauxW)

46 "I would pay good money to see Obammy get up on stage and say, "I AM the law," and then get punched in the face by Karl Urban dressed as Judge Dredd." Me too. Sounds like an enchanting evening.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 05:43 AM (gOoFi)

47 Same ppl who want to raise min wage also want #amnesty to bring in low-wage illegal farm workers.

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 05:43 AM (GSIDW)

48 Off damn Skeeter sock.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 05:44 AM (2jF2B)

49 46 "I would pay good money to see Obammy get up on stage and say, "I AM the law," and then get punched in the face by Karl Urban dressed as Judge Dredd."


Me too. Sounds like an enchanting evening.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 10:43 AM (gOoFi)

 

Some enchanted evening

You may see Karl Urban

You may see Karl Urban

Dressed up as Joseph Dredd

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 05:44 AM (DrWcr)

50 No one seriously thinks that 12 million illegal aliens are going to be rounded up and deported. In the end, there are two options. One is amnesty, with democrats giving illegals citizenship after a few years. The key word here is citizenship. Amensty = Citizenship. The other option is legalizing aliens with permanent residency status. If a comprehensive law was done right, it would work to the benefit of conservatives by making it easier to deport alien criminals. Instead of having situations like we have now with Obama releasing illegal felons, we could actually get rid of them. We just have to recognize what the choices are.

Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 05:44 AM (u2a4R)

51 It's all about us, peons! Oh, and remember to vote in November!

Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at March 31, 2014 05:44 AM (RD7QR)

52 You mean, crimes other than breaking and entering an international border, right?

Those tweenage girls aren't going to rape themselves.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 05:44 AM (ZKzrr)

53 Crap like 'work visas' and stuff, I willing to be more than flexible about...  Illegals with criminal records are my number one reason to build the damn fence.  Secure the border, and DEPORT the criminals... They'll love it in their home countries' prisons.  Then we'll have a 40% prison vacancy rate to hold our home-grown felons, and close down a few...

Posted by: phreshone at March 31, 2014 05:44 AM (kFxpe)

54 Obama likes to talk about how he's using his "discretion" in enforcing immigration laws







Discretion means doing whatever in the hell he wants to do

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2014 05:45 AM (1Jaio)

55 No human being is illegal!


Right!  


(Except for babies born in China who should have been aborted under the One Child Only policy, but that's neither here nor there,  because YAAAAAY ABORTION, right lefties?)


And I agree, lefties!   No human being IS illegal.   But    being a human being     and being a legal resident of a particular country    ARE NOT THE SAME DAMN  THING.    


Don't believe me?   Try moving to     Mexico without legal   authorization.   Really, go ahead.     We can wait.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:45 AM (4df7R)

56 Hey, jackasses! How about the fact that they're in this country FUCKING ILLEGALLY? Huh? Last I checked, something that is not legal is a fucking CRIME, and therefore a criminal offense. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 10:39 AM (4df7R) I know, right!? They say crossing the border illegally is an administrative violation or some other nonsense.

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 05:45 AM (659DL)

57 I will consider it a gross dereliction of duty if the next President does not prosecute and imprison most of the members of the current administration. These lawless fucks need to be put in prison.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 31, 2014 05:45 AM (bb5+k)

58 If a comprehensive law was done right

Better odds of SMOD landing on Mooch's next exotic vacay.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 05:46 AM (ZKzrr)

59 "No one seriously thinks that 12 million illegal aliens are going to be rounded up and deported." ?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 05:46 AM (gOoFi)

60 19 Any Country that does not or will not control it's borders is not much of a Country Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 10:38 AM (t3UFN) Or the correct meaning of the word "Citizen." Any country that let's "Anchor babies" be "citizens" is a country destined for collapse.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 31, 2014 05:46 AM (bb5+k)

61 Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 10:44 AM (u2a4R) Troll.

Posted by: eman at March 31, 2014 05:46 AM (AO9UG)

62 I want each and every politician who approves of George Soros' wet dream of an America without borders to go remove their front door. Put their money where their mouth is.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 31, 2014 05:46 AM (0HooB)

63 It's not like those fine people of MS-13 who are living in the shadows are going to do drivebys in Georgetown, Beverly Hills, Nob Hill, or Park Avenue, so why the hell would they give a shit what happens to the proles who don't


Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2014 05:46 AM (aTXUx)

64 Same ppl who want to raise min wage also want #amnesty to bring in low-wage illegal farm workers.

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 10:43 AM (GSIDW)


----


You need to finish your sentence.  Here let me help.


".....to bring in low-wage illegal farm workers so they can be told they're being exploited, so they can be unionized, amnestized and become 20 million card carrying Democratic Voters."

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2014 05:46 AM (nELVU)

65 "John McCain who once again vowed to work for amnesty"

Back in '08, in primary season, the media all pulled just as hard as they could to get McCain the Republican nomination. Mavericky awesomeness!

Then of course once their preferred candidate was locked in, they immediately turned on him like a pack of slavering jackals and went full bore on destroying his campaign.

Among the things they trotted out were a bunch of tut-tutting observations about McCain's age and health. Why, he's older than dirt! He's still all messed up from the Hanoi Hilton! He's had CANCER, you know, and it might COME BACK. There are really solid odds that if we elect this guy President, he would die in office before completing even one term!

At the time I figured all this as just routine election season boilerplate from the Democratic Party auxiliary known as "the media".

But in retrospect, how I wish it had been true. Instead here we are six years later and McCain just keeps going and going and going like the fucking Energizer bunny.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 05:47 AM (noWW6)

66 We could get them to enforce immigration law with $25,000 vouchers and HOA's.

Posted by: Joost at March 31, 2014 05:47 AM (Aif/5)

67 Time for some OT humour.

The weekend is just a few days away.  Envision it.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/selection-du-weekend-81-29.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:47 AM (YV5Kj)

68 64 Exactly

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 05:47 AM (eBLl3)

69 Don't you hate it when you post something that sounds okay, then read it again and realize that you left out half of a comment? So here's the background for comment 44: If the unemployment rate is b/w 20-50%, who in their right mind would want to let 20-30 million more people onto the unemployment stats? Not a good recipe for getting re-elected.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 31, 2014 05:48 AM (NSh5j)

70 Same ppl who want to raise min wage also want #amnesty to bring in low-wage illegal farm workers.

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 10:43 AM (GSIDW)



Farm workers?  Nah, we closed down those filthy farms in the Central Valley...

Posted by: EPA Administrator at March 31, 2014 05:48 AM (kFxpe)

71 Eeenie meenie miney moe, catch an illegal by the toe, then send him the fuck back to his own country.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 05:48 AM (L2I78)

72

Let's give them all $25,000, have them settle in Detroit!

 

Problem.  Solved. 

Posted by: jwoost at March 31, 2014 05:48 AM (TOk1P)

73 "Farm workers? Nah, we closed down those filthy farms in the Central Valley..." Why all the hate?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 05:49 AM (gOoFi)

74 What amazes me is that McCain promised we had nothing to fear from TFG in the WH... He wasn't talking to us. Posted by: t-bird at March 31, 2014 10:42 AM (FcR7P) Good point. He was talking to the GOPe. Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 10:43 AM (DrWcr) No he wasn't. He was talking to himself and the MSM in an effort to make himself feel good and above the fray and so the MSM might suck his cock again, but that ship had long since sailed. The stupid senile fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 05:49 AM (t3UFN)

75 Solve the immigration issue?  Raise the gas-tax, implement a carbon-tax scheme

Posted by: Tom Friedman at March 31, 2014 05:49 AM (kFxpe)

76 If a comprehensive law was done right, it would work to the benefit of conservatives by making it easier to deport alien criminals.


Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 10:44 AM (u2a4R)


Any time the word "comprehensive" is used, substitute the word "clusterfuck" and you'll hit the bullseye


Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2014 05:49 AM (aTXUx)

77 Same ppl who want to raise min wage also want #amnesty to bring in low-wage illegal farm workers.

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 10:43 AM (GSIDW)



Which I don't understand at all.   The instant you "legalize" these "low-wage, low-skill workers," you're going to be FORCED to pay them the legal minimum wage anyway.        Are you going to force amnestied   illegals   to work for a lower wage than other   legal residents?       Last I checked    that shit was illegal.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:50 AM (4df7R)

78 You want Ben to post the dump early. You'll settle for getting trolled by Malor. You'll get trolled by jwest.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 05:50 AM (HLprW)

79 #42 Florida is not a medium sized state in terms of population. It's #4 and may now be #3 because New York only had about 250,000 more people in the July, 2012 figures I am referencing. It has 29 electoral votes. I agree that Jeb is a terrible idea for POTUS, but, Florida is a key battleground state.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at March 31, 2014 05:50 AM (cauxW)

80 Illegal Relocation Program.

Sure you can come live in the US.  We will even furnish you a place to live.  In the birthplace of American automotive excellence we offer two prime locations - Detroit and Dearborne MI.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:50 AM (YV5Kj)

81 Farm workers? Nah, we closed down those filthy farms in the Central Valley...

Posted by: EPA Administrator at March 31, 2014 10:48 AM (kFxpe)


----


Excuse me..... Mr EPA dude.


I have a question.


Who's flatulence is worse???  20 million cows or 20 million Hispanics.???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2014 05:50 AM (nELVU)

82 "Why all the hate? " Me, fucker. There's like 9 of us living out here.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 31, 2014 05:51 AM (gOoFi)

83
So here's the background for comment 44: If the unemployment rate is b/w 20-50%, who in their right mind would want to let 20-30 million more people onto the unemployment stats? Not a good recipe for getting re-elected.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 31, 2014 10:48 AM (NSh5j)



Sure it is!   Because those 20-30 million people are going to vote for the people who  got them amnestied and    legally on the public dole.   That's 20-30 million easy votes for the Demonrats.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:51 AM (4df7R)

84 Any time the word "comprehensive" is used, substitute the word "clusterfuck" and you'll hit the bullseye Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2014 10:49 AM (aTXUx) Exactly. Anyone says comprehensive, run! Run fast, Run deep, Run long, but run the fuck away

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 05:51 AM (t3UFN)

85 We just have to recognize what the choices are. Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 10:44 AM (u2a4R) Or a third option: Make the business environment so unattractive that the 12 million self-deport.

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 05:51 AM (659DL)

86 If a comprehensive law was done right, it would work to the benefit of conservatives by making it easier to deport alien criminals. Instead of having situations like we have now with Obama releasing illegal felons, we could actually get rid of them. We just have to recognize what the choices are. Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 10:44 AM (u2a4R) Or ya know, we could just enforce the COMPREHENSIVE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 31, 2014 05:51 AM (bCEmE)

87 82 "Why all the hate? "


Me, fucker. There's like 9 of us living out here.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at March 31, 2014 10:51 AM (gOoFi)


Huh. I wonder if they would go for a fly.

Posted by: joncelli at March 31, 2014 05:52 AM (RD7QR)

88 Sure it is! Because those 20-30 million people are going to vote for the people who got them amnestied and legally on the public dole. That's 20-30 million easy votes for the Demonrats.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 10:51 AM (4df7R)

 

Bingo.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 05:52 AM (DrWcr)

89 Lemme see: Teach kindergarteners to roll a condom over a banana... for protection! Neglect to implement detention because of criminal backgrounds… for protection! I'm beginning to see how the Statist Jive works…

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2014 05:52 AM (HsTG8)

90 "Who's flatulence is worse??? 20 million cows or 20 million Hispanics.???" You ever eaten at Taco Casa? The question sorta answers itself.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 05:52 AM (gOoFi)

91

A Castro move out of the 80's; dump criminals to cause havoc.

Added bonus is that they will sign up for Obamacare and vote democrat.

Posted by: airandee at March 31, 2014 05:52 AM (FCyvO)

92

I was going to let a guy with a wheelbarrow full of cocaine through airport security, but since wheelbarrows are on the banned list, I made him get plastic bags for it.

 

You're welcome.

Posted by: TSA at March 31, 2014 05:52 AM (3ZtZW)

93 Who's flatulence is worse??? 20 million cows or 20 million Hispanics.???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2014 10:50 AM (nELVU)



Mmmm,   refried beans, ese.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:52 AM (4df7R)

94 Sure you can come live in the US. We will even furnish you a place to live. In the birthplace of American automotive excellence we offer two prime locations - Detroit and Dearborne MI.

I thought we already had a fast track for jihadis to settle in Dearborn and Mpls on our dime.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 05:53 AM (ZKzrr)

95 I think 4 of those 70,000 were convicted of sex crimes and sent to prison in the county I live in last month. Our sheriff said one of the reasons they immigrate is because so many are perverts and drunk criminals and the Mexican authorities would put them in a hole and forget about them. The Mexican government encourages their "problems" to immigrate illegally.

Posted by: Lester at March 31, 2014 05:53 AM (2UPXV)

96

 If the unemployment rate is b/w 20-50%, who in their right mind would want to let 20-30 million more people onto the unemployment stats? Not a good recipe for getting re-elected.

 

 

 

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 31, 2014 10:48 AM (NSh5j)

 

 

It's a PERFECT recipe for getting re-elected.  You're giving those same 20-30 million new citizens FREE SHIT from people like us.  They'll vote for you regardless of the unemployment rate.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 31, 2014 05:53 AM (fwARV)

97 And if around 725,000 are being caught per year, then the 10-million illegals figure is undoubtedly bullshit and it probably is the 20-million-plus.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 31, 2014 05:54 AM (hn5v5)

98 "the only cure is more Jeb 'Amnesty' Bush"

Here's what it would take for any one of the prospective 2016 Republican candidates to earn my absolutely undying loyalty and support. For them to get up on stage and say this:

"We used to have a Republican Party with the ideals of Ronald Reagan. We don't have that party any longer. After Reagan came the Bushes. Who flushed Reaganism down the toilet and remade the party in their own image. To the huge detriment of both the party and the country. I am here to restore the proud Reagan legacy that the Bushes ruined."

Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 05:54 AM (noWW6)

99 A Castro move out of the 80's; dump criminals to cause havoc.

Bonus: frees up space for dissidents.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 05:54 AM (ZKzrr)

100 Mmmm, refried beans, ese.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 10:52 AM (4df7R)

Refried beans vs rechewed cud. It's a tossup.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 31, 2014 05:54 AM (/Nxsb)

101 "[Florida is] #4 and may now be #3 because New York only had about 250,000 more people in the July, 2012 figures I am referencing. I agree that Jeb is a terrible idea for POTUS, but, Florida is a key battleground state." You're assuming FL will break for Jeb. Jeb's been off the scene down here long enough for the numbers to change significantly. Never assume that a candidate is going to bring his state's EVs with him.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 05:54 AM (HLprW)

102 Make the business environment so unattractive that the 12 million self-deport.

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 10:51 AM (659DL)




Mission Accomplished.  So stop your complaining, wing-nuts

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at March 31, 2014 05:54 AM (kFxpe)

103 Airandee, it was during the Carter administration that Castro dumped criminals and the insane amongst the real immigrants at a little Cuban town called Mariel.  South Florida and other areas had a surge violent crime not seen again until all the New Orleans refugees moved to Houston after Katrina.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:54 AM (YV5Kj)

104 81 Illegal Aliens cause Global Warming. The science is settled.

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 05:55 AM (GVS9Q)

105 I wonder what would happen to a politician who said: "My single goal is to make our borders as secure as the fence around the White House."

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 31, 2014 05:55 AM (LKJt3)

106 The illegals aren't going to give a shit about high unemployment. They can keep cutting lawns under the table and collect all their free bennies from us suckers anyway.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 05:55 AM (L2I78)

107 South Florida and other areas had a surge violent crime not seen again until all the New Orleans refugees moved to Houston after Katrina.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 10:54 AM (YV5Kj)

 

That's RAAAAACIST!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 05:55 AM (DrWcr)

108 HR I wanted to make things more interesting for both groups.  MS-13 vs jihadis.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:56 AM (YV5Kj)

109 Whenever a loon guns down a bunch of people, the screaming for gun confiscation goes out before the bodies are cold

If an illegal plows into a crowd of people with a BAC 3 times over the legal limit, the same "experts" say that we have to pass amnesty so that those drunk driving illegals can get free alcohol abuse treatment


Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2014 05:56 AM (aTXUx)

110 105 I wonder what would happen to a politician who said: "My single goal is to make our borders as secure as the fence around the White House."

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 31, 2014 10:55 AM (LKJt3)


We would embrace him and the MSM and the RINOs would savage him and that would be it for him.

Posted by: joncelli at March 31, 2014 05:57 AM (RD7QR)

111 Is there going to be a full investigation into The Love That Dare Not Meow Its Name?

Posted by: War Pug at March 31, 2014 05:57 AM (vFh9Q)

112 McCain "I will never ever ever ever as long as I am breathing stop before immigration reform is passed." **** One can only hope...

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 31, 2014 05:57 AM (g4TxM)

113 MS-13 vs jihadis.

No one would ever make that screenplay, but it would be awesome.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 05:57 AM (ZKzrr)

114 Mmmm, refried beans, ese.



Bean & cheese burrito, mama cita.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2014 10:56 AM (XCfYI)


.... with green sauce, habenaro slices, and ranchos huevos smothered in pico de gaya sauce.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2014 05:57 AM (nELVU)

115 Never assume that a candidate is going to bring his state's EVs with him.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 10:54 AM (HLprW)



I just missed carrying Massachusetts  by only that much



Posted by: Mitt at March 31, 2014 05:58 AM (kFxpe)

116 How many times must we say that there is no need to deport anyone.  Fine the shit out of people who hire illegals on the first offense and jail them on the second.  Cut off all benefits to illegals at the same time.



After that they will go home on their own.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 05:58 AM (T2V/1)

117 So I guess the one in blue with the weird goggles was trying to either sneak across the border via tunnel or someone was after some fries.

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/selection-du-weekend-81-39.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:58 AM (YV5Kj)

118 111
Is there going to be a full investigation into The Love That Dare Not Meow Its Name?

Posted by: War Pug at March 31, 2014 10:57 AM (vFh9Q)


Gay cats? Imagine the yowling....

Posted by: joncelli at March 31, 2014 05:58 AM (RD7QR)

119 "Never assume that a candidate is going to bring his state's EVs with him."

Imagine if Al Gore had carried Tennessee in 2000.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 05:58 AM (noWW6)

120 MS-13 vs jihadis.

No one would ever make that screenplay, but it would be awesome.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 10:57 AM (ZKzrr)



That show "Deadliest Warrior" does mash-ups like that all the time.  Nazi SS vs Vietcong, IRA vs Taliban, etc.


I'd love to see how the MS-13 stack up against jihadis.



Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 05:58 AM (GQ8sn)

121

MS-13 vs jihadis.

>>>

 

No one would ever make that screenplay, but it would be awesome.

 

>>>

 

 

Just recycle   the  Aliens vs Predators  script.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 31, 2014 05:59 AM (BAS5M)

122 These lawless fucks need to be put in prison.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 31, 2014 10:45 AM (bb5+k)

 

No member of the Obama Administration is going to jail, so get that out of your head. For one thing, President Obama will never be held accountable. Impeachment is the only recourse and impeachment of the first Black president simply isn't happening even if the GOP takes the Senate. For another, presidential pardons. Lots of them, a veritable blizzard of pardons. Pardons falling like parade confetti. His people are safe from prosecution.

 

The only thing for it is to grit your teeth and endure the remainder of Obama's second term and pray the economy doesn't crash and foreign aggressors decide there's no better time to make their move than while that SCOAMF is in office. I honestly believe Obama would indecisively balk at ordering a retaliatory strike even if the birds were in the air and headed our way. I'm thinking Putin thinks the same thing, and so do the Chinese. Our current President stinks of weakness and they can smell it.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 05:59 AM (2jF2B)

123 109  If an illegal plows into a crowd of people with a BAC 3 times over the legal limit, the same "experts" say that we have to pass amnesty so that those drunk driving illegals can get free alcohol abuse treatment


Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2014 10:56 AM (aTXUx)



Note also that drunk driving is not considered one of those criminal convictions they are talking about.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:00 AM (T2V/1)

124 Or a third option: Make the business environment so unattractive that the 12 million self-deport. Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 10:51 AM (659DL) If you had a comprehensive law that granted permanent residency it would come with the identification needed to make employment tougher for them to get. Also, by identifying those in the country under permanent residency, changes could be made in welfare laws to prevent or minimize what they would get. Right now, the borders are affectively wide open and every social program and government handout is available to them. You can't ask if they're here illegally, because that would be discrimination. You've got to change shit because the status quo sucks.

Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 06:00 AM (u2a4R)

125 Never assume that a candidate is going to bring his state's EVs with him.

Posted by: al gore at March 31, 2014 06:00 AM (hn5v5)

126 #101, I am not assuming FL will break for Jeb, far from it. I just wanted to make the point about how "big" it really is.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at March 31, 2014 06:01 AM (cauxW)

127 We just have to recognize what the choices are establish a mindset of defeat by establishing false choices. ---------------- FIFY

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 06:01 AM (aDwsi)

128 That show "Deadliest Warrior" does mash-ups like that all the time. Nazi SS vs Vietcong, IRA vs Taliban, etc. I'd love to see how the MS-13 stack up against jihadis. Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 10:58 AM (GQ8sn) Except we'd need to find a gang that hasn't already fought alongside jihadis. http://tinyurl.com/ml4ptvo

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 06:01 AM (659DL)

129 Just recycle the Aliens vs Predators script.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 31, 2014 10:59 AM (BAS5M)




Whoever wins, we lose?

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 06:01 AM (GQ8sn)

130
"Never assume that a candidate is going to bring his state's EVs with him."




Three home states, California - Michigan - Massachusetts, and didn't win one of them.

Ain't I a stinker?

Posted by: Mitt "Landslide" Romney

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 06:02 AM (kdS6q)

131 You can't ask if they're here illegally, because that would be discrimination. ------------------------ Perhaps that is a problem that should be rectified.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 06:02 AM (aDwsi)

132 Note also that drunk driving is not considered one of those criminal convictions they are talking about.

Planning ahead "is a white characteristic that minorities cannot be expected to display."

I'm not making that up.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=7723

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 06:02 AM (ZKzrr)

133 Except we'd need to find a gang that hasn't already fought alongside jihadis.

http://tinyurl.com/ml4ptvo

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 11:01 AM (659DL)



Holy shit, I did not realize this....


This ought to be grounds for exterminating every MS-13 member stateside.



Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 06:03 AM (GQ8sn)

134 Someone needs to get this info to O'Reilly.  He is still insisting Obumbler has deported more illegals than Bush. 

Don't think there has been any deportations since RR's amnesty.

Posted by: southTexas at March 31, 2014 06:03 AM (Oc7QX)

135 I agree that Jeb is a terrible idea for POTUS, but, Florida is a key battleground state.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at March 31, 2014 10:50 AM (cauxW)

 

Funny, I just never thought of Florida as a big state for some reason. I didn't know its population was so large. 29 electoral votes is a pretty big deal.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 06:03 AM (2jF2B)

136 Don't think there has been any deportations since RR's amnesty.

Posted by: southTexas at March 31, 2014 11:03 AM (Oc7QX)



That German home-schooling family almost got deported.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 06:04 AM (GQ8sn)

137 Sweet, Bugs Bunny is playing the Gashouse Gorillas in CN right now. Strike one-two-three yer out!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 06:04 AM (HLprW)

138 if its gonna be Jeb, i hope he can still attract Latino voters like his brother.

Posted by: Avi at March 31, 2014 06:04 AM (p/izY)

139 Immigration.  Why worry?  You will all be a part of the global soviet before you know it.  Thanks Kommrade Soetoro.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 31, 2014 06:04 AM (kFxpe)

140 This ought to be grounds for exterminating every MS-13 member stateside.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 11:03 AM (GQ8sn)



RAAAAAAAYCISSSSSS'!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 06:04 AM (4df7R)

141 Kill them all, let the God sort them out! Are you guys tired of this shit? Quite frankly me and everyone in Texas is tired of this shit! Bang, Bang, Shoot, shoot!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at March 31, 2014 06:04 AM (RvK0U)

142 That German home-schooling family... You see what I did there?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:05 AM (gOoFi)

143 You can't ask if they're here illegally, because that would be discrimination. You've got to change shit because the status quo sucks. Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 11:00 AM (u2a4R) Denying or minimizing welfare to newly created permanent residents would become the new discrimination. Within two seconds of granting the new status, La Raza would be screaming about second class status.

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 06:05 AM (659DL)

144 obama really is going to be pissed when he finds out about this, because, you know, he didnt know about it...his underlings did it, but without a smidgen of malice of forethought you know

Posted by: sound awake at March 31, 2014 06:05 AM (pk/NG)

145
Funny, I just never thought of Florida as a big state for some reason. I didn't know its population was so large. 29 electoral votes is a pretty big deal.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 11:03 AM (2jF2B)



Lots of retirees.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 06:06 AM (4df7R)

146 @137:

Bugs Bunny, 96

Gashouse Gorillas, 95.

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at March 31, 2014 06:06 AM (wtvvX)

147 Thanks for the insight Washington Nearsider, Insomniac, MWR. I keep thinking I live in a sane world, where people would look at the crappy economy, think 'hey, the current crop of politicians are screwing us', and vote accordingly. Sometimes I wish I could be a wide-eyed optimist like the rest of my peers. Unfortunately, I live in the FSA version of America.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 31, 2014 06:06 AM (NSh5j)

148 "Quite frankly me and everyone in Texas is tired of this shit! " It's closer than we really all think. The cartels are here and they are operating.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:06 AM (gOoFi)

149 Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 06:06 AM (mf5HN)

150
If you had a comprehensive law that granted permanent residency it would come with the identification needed to make employment tougher for them to get. 













Please explain how this would change from the current paradigm of rampant, near universal Social Security fraud where storefront immigration shops openly advertise that they can get anyone an SSN, regardless of whether they are in the country illegally or not.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 31, 2014 06:07 AM (TIIx5)

151

Ay, ay, ay, ay! oh, why all dee hate four dee Frito Bandito?

Posted by: Frito Bandito at March 31, 2014 06:07 AM (kFxpe)

152 "Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics?" Neither. We ignore them.

Posted by: DOJ at March 31, 2014 06:07 AM (gOoFi)

153
Sometimes I wish I could be a wide-eyed optimist like the rest of my peers. Unfortunately, I live in the FSA version of America.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 31, 2014 11:06 AM (NSh5j)



I know the feeling,  whippersnapper.    There's a reason they say that ignorance is bliss.   Too bad we're   too    intelligent to    fall into the ignorance trap.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 06:08 AM (4df7R)

154 @149: As if it mattered....

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at March 31, 2014 06:08 AM (wtvvX)

155 Lots of retirees.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 11:06 AM (4df7R)

 

Very horny retirees.  http://tinyurl.com/ldpksdc


 

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 06:08 AM (DrWcr)

156 116 "How many times must we say that there is no need to deport anyone. Fine the shit out of people who hire illegals on the first offense and jail them on the second. Cut off all benefits to illegals at the same time." If we take that approach, who is going to hire anyone remotely Hispanic looking? I certainly wouldn't take the chance. IDs can be faked. Is the employer responsible for finding out if they are real or not. For only Hispanic looking or sounding people or everyone? Sure, jail the business owner sounds like such a good conservative position, but it does have a few problems.

Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 06:08 AM (u2a4R)

157 Sweet, Bugs Bunny is playing the Gashouse Gorillas in CN right now. Strike one-two-three yer out! Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 11:04 AM (HLprW) The Slowball will getcha everytime!

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 06:09 AM (659DL)

158 You release that many crimigrants into society don't forget one thing.  A good supply of body bags.

Posted by: Trautman at March 31, 2014 06:09 AM (oJUxt)

159 Planning ahead "is a white characteristic that minorities cannot be expected to display." Well, then they'll never know what hit them when the Burning Times arrive, will they?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2014 06:09 AM (HsTG8)

160 Yeah, the phrase "horny retirees" REALLY makes me want to click on that link....

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at March 31, 2014 06:09 AM (wtvvX)

161 Since we are ignoring federal laws can we ignore the income tax, anything put out by the epa and SlappyCare?

Posted by: IrishEd at March 31, 2014 06:09 AM (D0NZx)

162 160 Yeah, the phrase "horny retirees" REALLY makes me want to click on that link....

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at March 31, 2014 11:09 AM (wtvvX)

 

Relax, it's just a news story.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 06:10 AM (DrWcr)

163

"Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics?"

 

 

Neither. We ignore them.

 

 

Posted by: DOJ at March 31, 2014 11:07 AM (gOoFi)

 

 

With an exception for candidates for politcal office.  R  candidates  only.

Posted by: The MFM at March 31, 2014 06:11 AM (BAS5M)

164 "Quite frankly me and everyone in Texas is tired of this shit!"

Solutions.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesse_newberry/7467041602/

Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 06:11 AM (noWW6)

165
In one post:

"If you had a comprehensive law that granted permanent residency it would
come with the identification needed to make employment tougher for them
to get."

In another post:

"IDs can be faked."


*snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 31, 2014 06:11 AM (TIIx5)

166 How about we deport the gang of criminals who are ruling us?

Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2014 06:11 AM (zoehZ)

167 Relax, it's just a news story.

Suuuuuuuuuuure it is......

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at March 31, 2014 06:11 AM (wtvvX)

168 Quite frankly me and everyone in Texas is tired of this shit!

Bang, Bang, Shoot, shoot!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at March 31, 2014 11:04 AM (RvK0U)



In the  primary, very conservative candidate for statewide office made sure they had 'securing the border' as a major part of their plank.  (Not just Senator or Governor, but Controller, Railroad Commissioner, etc)

Posted by: Frito Bandito at March 31, 2014 06:11 AM (kFxpe)

169 Yeah, the phrase "horny retirees" REALLY makes me want to click on that link.... Posted by: Vortex Lovera at March 31, 2014 11:09 AM (wtvvX) *** That's better than the original title: "Wrinklies Pinklies".

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 31, 2014 06:11 AM (g4TxM)

170 Homeland Security.  If I had even an ounce of skepticism in me, I'd say that the whole reason that department was created was to start the ball rolling towards weakening and eventually nullifying our constitutional rights. 

Of course I'm not a skeptic at all, so I don't think that.  Because there's no irony in its title.  None.  Nada.  Zip.  Zilch.  Zero.

No.  Irony.



Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 06:12 AM (BZAd3)

171 Illegal aliens are exempt from stalincare, and apparently exempt from criminal law as well.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2014 06:13 AM (eoeps)

172 Since the Presidential race is managed completely by deep pocket donors giving money directly to professional campaign staff, bypassing the People entirely, Jeb is the perfect candidate. Not Tea Party, Democrat friendly, Hispanic outreach, all the old guard GOP and DNC campaign people will get hired and he is pro-Huge Central government. But the only poll that counts: Polls well against Hillary. Don't forget the media. Our form of representative government has not only evolved into an elite aristocracy instead of Constitutional representation but the next President actually has to be accepted by the Media as their special representative and they get more votes than regular citizens so just buy Gold and ammunition now.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 31, 2014 06:13 AM (TN+/+)

173
Yeah, the phrase "horny retirees" REALLY makes me want to click on that link....








Is there lemonade at that party?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 31, 2014 06:13 AM (TIIx5)

174 You guys are heartless.

Posted by: Rick Perry at March 31, 2014 06:13 AM (D6if6)

175 "Well maybe you'll trust...John McCain who once again vowed to work for amnesty because that's what Ted Kennedy would have wanted." There was, and might still be, a saying in the Nuc Navy: A 1000 at-a-boys gets wiped out by one Aw-shit. Sen. McCain you've had a 1000 Aw-shits and one at-a-boy. Please go away and shut up forever, for the good of this country.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 31, 2014 06:13 AM (LKJt3)

176

Jwest's idea of conservative immigration reform is to do whatever Chuck Schumer and Obama want just as long as they are using Marco Rubio as a hand puppet for it. 

 

 

Posted by: buzzion at March 31, 2014 06:14 AM (LI48c)

177 Well maybe you'll trust...John McCain who once again vowed to work for amnesty because that's what Ted Kennedy would have wanted.-DrewM Ted Kennedy wanted a lot of things. I suspect now he wants a glass of ice cold water as he is burning his sorry fat murderous ass off in hell.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 06:14 AM (HVff2)

178 Homeland Security. If I had even an ounce of skepticism in me, I'd say that the whole reason that department was created was to start the ball rolling towards weakening and eventually nullifying our constitutional rights. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 11:12 AM (BZAd3) Because we had to do Something! You know how we created the DNI? I fully expect that if we get hit again on the scale of 9/11, we'll create another layer of bullshit bureaucracy called the Director of Universal Intelligence that overseas the Director of National Intelligence. Yeah, I'm not cynical or anything. hehe.

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 06:15 AM (659DL)

179 149 Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 11:06 AM (mf5HN)



No

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:15 AM (T2V/1)

180 " and apparently exempt from criminal law as well." Because making the law apply evenly to everyone would be- (Anybody? This is that low hanging curve ball that dreams are made of. Go ahead. Swing away.)

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:15 AM (gOoFi)

181 You never go full jwest.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 06:16 AM (HLprW)

182 Heh. Remember a prof who was ex-Navy describing a flight as "not too bad - three 'aw-shits' and four 'Hail Marys'".....

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at March 31, 2014 06:16 AM (wtvvX)

183 Ya know, Putin says the reason why he has to move in and take over Ukraine is to protect ethnic Russians. Hitler said the reason why he had to annex the Sundland (whatever) was to protect ethnic Germans.

So when will the Mexican government claim Southern California, Southern Arizonia, and Southern Texas, and Florida to protect ethnic Hispanics?

Posted by: Smith the Welder at March 31, 2014 06:16 AM (LtRGk)

184 149 Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 11:06 AM (mf5HN) They're not mere moving violations. They carry jail time and are crimes of moral turpitude.

Posted by: War Pug at March 31, 2014 06:16 AM (vFh9Q)

185 ITA, MWR. I keep reminding myself that I need to stay engaged with the world because I'm going to need that information/intelligence/awareness if SHTF. Otherwise, I would become a professional hermit (my natural state) and rumor has it that that's not a good way to go through life.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at March 31, 2014 06:16 AM (NSh5j)

186 It's time to send bills to Mexico and all the other central/south american countries for the costs associated with their citizens residing in our country.

Posted by: phreshone at March 31, 2014 06:17 AM (kFxpe)

187 179 149 Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 11:06 AM (mf5HN) No Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:15 AM (T2V/1) Ummm...what?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 31, 2014 06:17 AM (bCEmE)

188 180 Because making the law apply evenly to everyone would be- Just f**king stupid..........

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 06:17 AM (HVff2)

189 *snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 31, 2014 11:11 AM (TIIx5)

Reading jwest again?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 06:17 AM (QFxY5)

190 You never go full jwest. :}

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:17 AM (gOoFi)

191 I'm still going long on Curb-Feelers and Horchata.

Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 06:17 AM (D6if6)

192 Nominating Jeb Bush, at least as far as I'm concerned, would be a gift to the dems, because I could give a flying f less how much flack I would take for doing it, but I'd vote democrat.  Enough of this dynasty crap.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 06:17 AM (BZAd3)

193 if its gonna be Jeb,
i hope he can still attract Latino voters like his brother.

Posted by: Avi at March 31, 2014 11:04 AM (p/izY)

 

That's probably at least part of the reason why the GOP Establishment is pushing Jeb Bush's candidacy so hard. He speaks Spanish fluently and I believe his wife is Hispanic, as well. As I understand it, Karl Rove and other Republican think tank bigwigs are frantic with anxiety over losing the Hispanic voting bloc as the Republican Party lost the once-faithful Black voting bloc. It never seems to occur to them that ideas about individual freedom and opportunity have a universal appeal transcending skin color and ethnicity, and that playing into racial politics means fighting the Democrats on their home ground.

 

So yeah, it seems the GOP Establishment is willing to risk losing some or even most of the support of their conservative base in order to keep the Latino demographic in play. But that's okay: I don't think they like us much, anyway.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 06:18 AM (2jF2B)

194 Because making the law apply evenly to everyone would be- Unfair?

Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 06:18 AM (D6if6)

195 192 Nominating Jeb Bush, at least as far as I'm concerned, would be a gift to the dems, because I could give a flying f less how much flack I would take for doing it, but I'd vote democrat. Enough of this dynasty crap. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 11:17 AM (BZAd3) Wouldn't that be a vote for Clinton?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 31, 2014 06:18 AM (bCEmE)

196 186 "It's time to send bills to Mexico and all the other central/south american countries for the costs associated with their citizens residing in our country." I've mentioned this before, but first you need to identify who they are and where they're from. By doing the legalization, you get that info.

Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 06:18 AM (u2a4R)

197 @165 Expecting consistancy from someone who is clearly insane is a fools errand. I would like him and other the other maniacs who think as he does to explain in great detail what exactly is "broken" with current immigration law other than nobody in power wants to follow the law as written and ate using this "broken" canard to ram through what they really want is nearly limitless immigration.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 31, 2014 06:19 AM (qad38)

198 187  Ummm...what?

Posted by: Tami at March 31, 2014 11:17 AM (bCEmE)



For the purpose of the statistics they are not considered a crime.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:19 AM (T2V/1)

199 Enough of this dynasty crap. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 11:17 AM (BZAd3) Yeah, I read the WaPo article over the weekend on my death, errr flu bed. Go ahead nominate him. I won't be fooled by a 3rd Bush and I'll sit home except to vote for Scott Walker.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 06:19 AM (HVff2)

200 I've mentioned this before, but first you need to identify who they are and where they're from. By doing the legalization, you get that info. What a Maroon!

Posted by: Bugs at March 31, 2014 06:19 AM (D6if6)

201 For the purpose of the statistics they are not considered a crime. Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:19 AM (T2V/1) Ok....you had answered 'no' to a two choice question.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 31, 2014 06:21 AM (bCEmE)

202 My name is Bob. I am from Milwaukee. Why? Cause I said so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:21 AM (gOoFi)

203 Putting Jeb Bush up against Hillary Clinton is like the UFC putting two old washed up cage fighters on a main event to fleece the fucking rubes.  They would never do that, would they?

Posted by: Fritz at March 31, 2014 06:21 AM (oJUxt)

204 193  So yeah, it seems the GOP Establishment is willing to risk losing some or even most of the support of their conservative base in order to keep the Latino demographic in play. But that's okay: I don't think they like us much, anyway.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 11:18 AM (2jF2B)



Republicans have never had the Hispanic voting block, and will never have it.  They have always voted reliably for Democrats at about a 70% rate.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:21 AM (T2V/1)

205 "Ok....you had answered 'no' to a two choice question." And that's all you need to know, Cob person.

Posted by: Barry at March 31, 2014 06:21 AM (gOoFi)

206 "I've mentioned this before..." Was it a point that hasn't been torn apart before, or are you just in a good trolling groove?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 06:22 AM (HLprW)

207 While everyone is snorting and self-tatooing 'Merica, Fuck Yeah on their stomach, how about someone taking the time to outline what their plan is. Hint: If it starts with "enforce existing law" you need to expand on that and say exactly what it entails.

Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 06:22 AM (u2a4R)

208 If you think about it, isn't releasing a ton of criminals into the country just an attempt to light the kindling of the burning times?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 31, 2014 06:23 AM (HDwDg)

209 The administration has been inflating the "deportation" numbers by now including turnbacks at the border, which were not previously reported as deportations (because they weren't).


Posted by: West at March 31, 2014 06:23 AM (4EkUi)

210

I've mentioned this before, but first you need to identify who they are and where they're from. By doing the legalization, you get that info.

 

 

Bullets are cheap.

 

 

Posted by: Infidel at March 31, 2014 06:23 AM (IL0TY)

211 I'm pretty sure this post is racist

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:23 AM (zOTsN)

212 Aaaaghhhhhhh I just watched The Walking Dead finale. Aaaaaghhhhhh

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 06:23 AM (GSIDW)

213 For the purpose of the statistics they are not considered a crime.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:19 AM (T2V/1)

According to what? The article?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 06:24 AM (QFxY5)

214 Come come. Are you letting your interest in purity outweigh the benefits of electing anyone with an R next to their name.

Posted by: ejo at March 31, 2014 06:24 AM (GXvSO)

215 Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 11:06 AM (mf5HN)



I was wondering that myself.   I'm not sure.     I'm fairly certain that drunk driving   is a traffic crime, not a civil traffic offense (like getting a parking ticket).  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 06:24 AM (4df7R)

216 Will the New Amnesty and programs for Mexican nationals who just happen to be in the U.S. be extended to ALL immigrants?  If not, then I'm calling RACISM.  Democrats are favoring brown (and white and dark skinned) people from Mexico and Central America over Asian immigrants and over African immigrants and Middle Eastern immigrants and European immigrants(but they don't count b/c they are  mostly of the white persuasion).

So RACISM RACISM RACISM!! Yell it from the (punditry) rooftops!

Posted by: Sphynx at March 31, 2014 06:24 AM (OZmbA)

217
Republicans have never had the Hispanic voting block, and will never have it. They have always voted reliably for Democrats at about a 70% rate.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:21 AM (T2V/1)









But they'll make up for it in volume!!!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 31, 2014 06:24 AM (TIIx5)

218 "Aaaaghhhhhhh I just watched The Walking Dead finale. Aaaaaghhhhhh" Yeah, ain't Terminus a peach.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:25 AM (gOoFi)

219 WaPo Poll: Obama’s Approval Rating Among Iraq And Afghan War Vets Only 32%… Weasel Zippers: I am surprised it is that high

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 06:25 AM (t3UFN)

220 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 11:24 AM (4df7R) At least here IIRC it's a felony. But lots of people get it negotiated down. But they have lawyers, dunno what an illegal would do. If you hit someone or something, I'd hope that'd be a crime, but I'm guessing no.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 31, 2014 06:25 AM (HDwDg)

221 In other news Ronan Farrow show on brink of cancellation due to lousy ratings. Insider says he kinda stinks on television. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 31, 2014 06:25 AM (oFCZn)

222 Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 11:22 AM (u2a4R) If you actually read for comprehension instead of unjustifiable sneering and condescension, people might take you seriously.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 06:26 AM (HLprW)

223 "Hint: If it starts with "enforce existing law" you need to expand on that and say exactly what it entails." Land mines and sharks with frickin' laser beams. Really. I mean that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:26 AM (gOoFi)

224 I was wondering that myself. I'm not sure. I'm fairly certain that drunk driving is a traffic crime, not a civil traffic offense (like getting a parking ticket). Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit of course, there is intoxication manslaughter. This weekend a "dreamer" twice the intox limit killed her two kids, ages 14 and 10, while driving drunk

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:26 AM (zOTsN)

225 Rinse and repeat


Yes we need immigration reform, but NOT what has been rolled out the last half dozen times. Every bill that has come out since the first major rewrite in 1965 has basically been amnesty and open invitation for illegals to flood across the border.


We are no longer the country of the 19th century with vast open areas in the West. Our cities are overcrowded shit holes run by corrupt communist hacks AND there is no longer a vast area open for the inhabitants to flee to and take up farming.


This is not to mention that we have entire towns in CA with a population > 20,000 in which none of the citizens speak English.  The current crew of "immigrants" do not appear to desire to assimilate and the current crowd of liberals do not think they should. The schools have gone from teaching America as a mixing pot to America as a salad bowl where "diversity" is celebrated and heritage counts for all, unless you have a European heritage then you are a racist.


Yes, there are a lot of things that need to be done to "fix" our immigration laws.  The first one of these should be to repeal that POS of Amnesty Round I that got us where we are today.


We need immigration law that does the following AND that is enforced:


1. Eliminate the BS anchor baby interpretation by providing a definition of what the term “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means, which is not dashing across the border to deliver a baby.  Personally, I would require that at least one of the parents of any child born in the U.S. be a citizen before that child was eligible for “birthright” citizenship. If not, then the child would have to undergo naturalization.


2. Provide a reliable means for employers to check the status of employees.


3. Provide severe punishments for knowingly hiring illegals (or reckless disregard). That punishment should include jail time for repeat violations.  


4. Eliminate ALL benefits for illegals including schools for children.


5. Rewrite legal immigration to allow in immigrants with a desirable education and/or skill set and arrange the waiting list to have the most skilled/educated at the top of the list. (Australian system) Also include a check for communicable diseases (as we did in the past) and provide for immunization. Immigrants from countries on the list of terror support need not apply.


6. For groups that already have large populations in the U.S. who have not assimilated, reduce the allowable numbers until they do (eliminate whole towns that do not speak English)


7. Provide severe penalties for mules.


8. Provide the death penalty for people involved in sex slavery.


9. Eliminate all forms of asylum. That system has been abused to the point of making it a joke. Any true case that needs to be let in should be a case by case special act passed by congress. Get them on record.


10. Immigrants who become involved in any serious crime prior to becoming a citizen should be deported back to their home country.


11. Absolutely no dual citizenship allowed.


12. None from any country that aids, abets, sponsors terrorists or that is run by a Muslim Theocracy.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:27 AM (T2V/1)

226 Republicans have never had the Hispanic voting block, and will never have it. They have always voted reliably for Democrats at about a 70% rate.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:21 AM (T2V/1)

 

Yes, I know, Vic, but shhh. Listen. Can you hear it? Highly paid GOP consultants are formulating a winning strategery as we speak. Top. Men.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 06:27 AM (2jF2B)

227 Insider says he kinda stinks on television.

Thank Bast I'm too cheap to upgrade to Smell-O-Vision.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 06:27 AM (ZKzrr)

228 of course, there is intoxication manslaughter. This weekend a "dreamer" twice the intox limit killed her two kids, ages 14 and 10, while driving drunk That's tough to do while hiding in the shadows.

Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 06:27 AM (D6if6)

229 Yeah, Ronan. Shit, it's only been a month. That is sucktastic on an atomic level. Atomic Level Sucktasy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:28 AM (gOoFi)

230 218 They better not have turned baby Judith into veal!

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 06:28 AM (GSIDW)

231 were is Rand Paul on illegal immigration. Asking for a friend (jk)

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:28 AM (zOTsN)

232 Yeah, ain't Terminus a peach.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 11:25 AM (gOoFi)


----


Look at the flowers.   Just look at the flowers.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2014 06:28 AM (nELVU)

233 If anyone is interested, here is the Center For Immigration Studies report from October, 2013.

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/Deportation-Numbers-Unwrapped.pdf

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 06:28 AM (QFxY5)

234 No illegal leaves our offices without a care package of ammunition

Posted by: Dept. of Homeland Futility at March 31, 2014 06:29 AM (wu/TK)

235 Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 11:06 AM (mf5HN) No Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:15 AM (T2V/1) Ummm...what? Posted by: Tami at March 31, 2014 11:17 AM (bCEmE) In other words, it's not counted at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 06:29 AM (mf5HN)

236 215 Honest question, are drunk driving convictions considered a crime or a traffic offense for those statistics?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 11:06 AM (mf5HN)


I was wondering that myself. I'm not sure. I'm fairly certain that drunk driving is a traffic crime, not a civil traffic offense (like getting a parking ticket).

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 11:24 AM (4df7R)



They have already said they do not include drunk driving in the list of "crimes" counted.  They say it is a "moving traffic violation".  I suppose if you got felony DUI that would be considered a "crime".

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:29 AM (T2V/1)

237 Oooga-Booga-Booga!

*shakes spear*

Posted by: Amazon Tribesman at March 31, 2014 06:30 AM (oJUxt)

238 In Texas, the third DWI is a FELONY

Posted by: phreshone at March 31, 2014 06:30 AM (kFxpe)

239 8. Provide the death penalty for people involved in sex slavery.

The buyers and sellers, not those being bought and sold, right?  I'm down.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 06:31 AM (ZKzrr)

240 For the purpose of the statistics they are not considered a crime.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:19 AM (T2V/1)



I'm looking all over the ICE website but I can't find a damned definition for what they consider a "crime" versus an "offense."   It's very irritating.


Hawaii has a pretty good definition of what THEY count as a traffic offense versus a traffic crime    (http://tinyurl.com/mpwbllo), but I don't know how that applies to ICE.




I know what the   ICE   Levels of Offense definitions are   and what their   apprehension priorities are (PDF: http://tinyurl.com/4urrs26),    but that doesn't help much.    Though they do mention in   one of the footnotes:  "Some misdemeanors are relatively minor and do not warrant the same degree offocus as others. ICE agents and officers should exercise particular discretion when dealing with minor traffic offenses such as driving without a license."



I personally think "driving without a license" is a little more than a "relatively minor" misdemeanor.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 06:31 AM (4df7R)

241 DWI in the dreamer population is a real problem in Texas. I denounce myself

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:31 AM (zOTsN)

242

In Re:  Jeb Bush.

 

In 2008 Hillary Clinton was inevitable.   If Jeb runs he still has to win the primaries.  Nothing in politics is inevitable, and I do not begrudge a party faction advocating what it thinks is best - because  I am doing the same thing.

 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Frieds at the Outrage Outlet at March 31, 2014 06:32 AM (hLRSq)

243 They have already said they do not include drunk driving in the list of "crimes" counted. They say it is a "moving traffic violation". I suppose if you got felony DUI that would be considered a "crime".

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:29 AM (T2V/1)



Yes, but where is that stated?  I'd like to actually see it written down somewhere.   I find it very hard to believe that vehicular manslaughter, especially under the influence, would   not count as a    criminal traffic offense.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 06:32 AM (4df7R)

244 In Texas, the third DWI is a FELONY

Posted by: phreshone at March 31, 2014 11:30 AM (kFxpe)


----


.... for Europeans, apparently.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2014 06:32 AM (nELVU)

245 231 were is Rand Paul on illegal immigration. Asking for a friend (jk)

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 11:28 AM (zOTsN)



Like his father he believes in open borders.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:33 AM (T2V/1)

246 I'm sure not letting our soldiers and marines have loaded weapons around our allies in Afghanistan until our allies killed 60 of them helped endear me to them.

Posted by: Barack at March 31, 2014 06:33 AM (Aif/5)

247 Friends, not Fried - although you never know - some of you may have self-combusted.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at March 31, 2014 06:33 AM (hLRSq)

248   212 Aaaaghhhhhhh
I just watched The Walking Dead finale.
Aaaaaghhhhhh

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 11:23 AM (GSIDW)

 

Right?  Some good HOLY SHIT moments in that one!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 06:33 AM (DrWcr)

249 Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:27 AM (T2V/1) Each and every point is a good one. How would you handle the people who are already here? (different answers for different circumstances)

Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 06:34 AM (u2a4R)

250 Provide the death penalty for people involved in sex slavery. **Gimp suit on** That's insane. **Gimp suit off**

Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 06:34 AM (D6if6)

251 240  Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 11:31 AM (4df7R)


The link I had this morning on the news thread had it.


http://tinyurl.com/mmsxwvl

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:35 AM (T2V/1)

252 Let me see...amnesty+Jeb+common core = 270 Solve that shit, common core idiots.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 31, 2014 06:35 AM (659DL)

253 The Center for Immigration Studies reports that ICE officials moved to deport 28 percent fewer illegal immigrants from the interior of the country in 2013 than in 2012. wow

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:35 AM (zOTsN)

254 The buyers and sellers, not those being bought and sold, right? I'm down.

Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 11:31 AM (ZKzrr)

 

Why not reduce both demand and supply?

 

I keed, I keed!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 06:35 AM (DrWcr)

255 243  Yes, but where is that stated? I'd like to actually see it written down somewhere. I find it very hard to believe that vehicular manslaughter, especially under the influence, would not count as a criminal traffic offense.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 11:32 AM (4df7R)


That's what we call felony DUI here.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:36 AM (T2V/1)

256 In many ways The Walking Dead finale is the story of Barack Obama.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 31, 2014 06:36 AM (oFCZn)

257 Vic, some of your recommendations are already law.

Rewrite legal immigration to allow in immigrants with a desirable education and/or skill set and arrange the waiting list to have the most skilled/educated at the top of the list. (Australian system) Also include a check for communicable diseases (as we did in the past) and provide for immunization. Immigrants from countries on the list of terror support need not apply.


When I started my naturalization process, I had to go find a doctor in Canada to perform an examination and look over my medical history to fulfill the requirements.  It also had to be a doctor on an approved list of doctors from INS, not just any doctor.  The doctor I saw looked at the approved list and laughed and said several of those doctors were either dead or retired.  INS is horribly inept at keeping up with their own shit.


Immigrants who become involved in any serious crime prior to becoming a citizen should be deported back to their home country.

The final interview for my naturalization involved an interview with an INS officer.  The very first question from him was, "Is it your intention to lie to me today?"  After that, he had a whole list of questions ranging from the usual "Have you ever attempted to overthrow a legitimately govt?" to "Are you or have you ever committed acts of terrorism?"


Absolutely no dual citizenship allowed.


There's already no dual-citizenship allowed.  In the US govt's eyes, you are either an American citizen or you are not.   I still have my Canadian passport, but I can no longer re-enter the US with it.  I must use my US passport or else men with shotguns. 

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 06:36 AM (GQ8sn)

258 Solve that shit, common core idiots.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 31, 2014 11:35 AM (659DL)



Answer:  RINO



What do I win?

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 06:37 AM (GQ8sn)

259 DWI Respect for the Law in the dreamer population is a real problem in Texas. I denounce myself

Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 06:37 AM (D6if6)

260 Since today is opening day, I want to talk about baseball.

Baseball.

There...  I'm done.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 06:37 AM (BZAd3)

261 "The buyers and sellers, not those being bought and sold, right? I'm down." Now, now, now. It's real easy to judge..........

Posted by: Hairy Reid at March 31, 2014 06:37 AM (gOoFi)

262 if they deport them, how will they turn Texas blue?

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:38 AM (zOTsN)

263 "DWI in the dreamer population is a real problem in Texas."

It's a real problem everywhere.

At one point I mentioned that on a blog with a bunch of liberal commenters, and every single one of them went straight up the wall, did a fingernail hang, shrieked about TEH RAYCISS ELEVENTY, and accused me of making it all up.

I patiently dug up absolutely exhaustive documentation on the Hispanic DUI problem, including studies by the Department of Justice and the National Association of Chiefs of Police, and capped it off with a stack of public health surveys in which Hispanics consistently said that drunk driving was _the_ #1 preventable health risk in their community.

None of this made the smallest dent. Because TEH RAYCISS ELEVENTY. You just can't get through to liberals on this stuff.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 06:39 AM (noWW6)

264 While everyone is snorting and self-tatooing 'Merica, Fuck Yeah on their stomach, how about someone taking the time to outline what their plan is. Hint: If it starts with "enforce existing law" you need to expand on that and say exactly what it entails. Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 11:22 AM (u2a4R) Here's my plan. Border Security will be the same as the security around the White House.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 31, 2014 06:39 AM (LKJt3)

265 Right? Some good HOLY SHIT moments in that one! Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 11:33 AM (DrWcr) Cool. Watching tonight.

Posted by: Mainah at March 31, 2014 06:39 AM (659DL)

266 257  There's already no dual-citizenship allowed. In the US govt's eyes, you are either an American citizen or you are not. I still have my Canadian passport, but I can no longer re-enter the US with it. I must use my US passport or else men with shotguns.

Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 11:36 AM (GQ8sn)


The last time I looked that up it is and it isn't depending on the circumstances.  If you immigrate you can not have dual citizenship, however if you are born to US parent(s) in a foreign country you can.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:39 AM (T2V/1)

267 "Border Security will be the same as the security around the White House." Unpossible. That would be a sign of weakness. And being a regional power.

Posted by: Barry at March 31, 2014 06:40 AM (gOoFi)

268 Wouldn't that be a vote for Clinton?

Posted by: Tami at March 31, 2014 11:18 AM (bCEmE)


Fine.  Whoever.  Let it burn.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 06:40 AM (BZAd3)

269 And it seems the only group that gets the full wrath of immigration law are german homeschoolers seeking asylum, mexican lettuce pickers not so much.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 31, 2014 06:41 AM (hrAg/)

270 jwest its comments like this While everyone is snorting and self-tatooing 'Merica, Fuck Yeah on their stomach, that cause people to tune you out

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:41 AM (zOTsN)

271
In 2008 Hillary Clinton was inevitable. If Jeb runs he still has to win the primaries. Nothing in politics is inevitable
Posted by: Mikey NTH



Different parties. different styles.

As a general rule, Republicans tend to nominate the favorite, Democrats tend to go for the outsider.

Bush III might have problems getting the Dem nomination, as will Hillary if Booker or someone else jumps in.  But he would probably have a straightforward run in the Republican race.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 06:41 AM (kdS6q)

272

"Why even bother with a border?"

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Just another red line i plan to ignore

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 31, 2014 06:41 AM (SO2Q8)

273 LiFB

Posted by: toby928 at March 31, 2014 06:41 AM (QupBk)

274 Like his father he believes in open borders.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:33 AM (T2V/1)

Incorrect.

From Rand Paul's senate website:

"I do not support amnesty, I support legal immigration and recognize that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves. However, millions of illegal immigrants are crossing our border without our knowledge and causing a clear threat to our national security. I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities."

http://tinyurl.com/k68tyk8


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 06:42 AM (QFxY5)

275 Okay, I think I've found it.

From the    report    "ICE Response to the Task Force on Secure Communities Findings and Recommendations" (April 27, 2012) (PDF: http://tinyurl.com/mxpcbwm):



"III. Minor Traffic Offenses and Misdemeanors.



Recommendations


1. Withhold ICE enforcement action based solely on minor traffic offenses, and consider alterations, including conditional detainers, for other minor offenses.



ICE agrees that enforcement action based solely on a charge for a minor traffic offense is generally not an efficient use of government resources. For individuals arrested solely for minor traffic offenses, who have not previously been convicted of other crimes and do not fall within any other ICE priority category, ICE will only consider making a detainer operative upon conviction for the minor criminal traffic offense. Consistent with the HSAC’s recommendation, “the category of minor traffic offenses should not include driving under the influence, hit-and-run,
or reckless driving resulting in injury to persons, or other violations that have the potential of causing serious injury or harm to the public.”
    To implement this policy, ICE has issued instructions to the field.



It is important to clarify that for individuals convicted of minor criminal traffic offenses, ICE will continue to consider whether prosecutorial discretion is appropriate in individual cases in accordance with Director Morton’s March 2, 2011 and June 17, 2011 memorandums. In assessing whether prosecutorial discretion is appropriate in a case of an individual convicted of a minor traffic offense, ICE personnel will apply the direction of the Civil Enforcement Priorities memo. That memo, as noted above, explains that because some misdemeanors, like minor traffic offenses such as driving without a license, are relatively minor and do not warrant the same degree of focus as others, ICE personnel should exercise particular discretion when dealing with cases involving such offenses. ICE agrees with the Task Force’s finding that “Secure Communities must be implemented in a way that supports community policing and sustains the trust of all elements of the community in working with local law enforcement agencies.” ICE believes that the policies described above further these important goals and will carefully monitor and evaluate their implementation.



It should be noted that states can choose not to submit to the federal government the fingerprints for individuals arrested for minor offenses. In states that do not fingerprint for minor offenses (or that fingerprint for state use but do not submit those fingerprints to the FBI), aliens cannot be identified through Secure Communities because they do not become part of the federal information sharing process in the first place."




So this would seem to say that things that DO result in grievous bodily harm SHOULD be counted as    more than simply minor traffic    offenses    for the purposes of ICE.   So I'm confused.   Then again, that    is not uncommon   for me.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 06:42 AM (4df7R)

276 None of this made the smallest dent. Because TEH RAYCISS ELEVENTY. You just can't get through to liberals on this stuff. Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 11:39 AM (noWW6) True story: some academics want to stop studying anything that could create racist results. Yep, reality is racist. I want off this planet sometimes.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 31, 2014 06:43 AM (HDwDg)

277

Shamnesty will be a done deal by 2016.  Speaker Boner and his anti-conservative team of Ryan, Cantor, McCarthy, et al will pass it in the dead of night with a voice vote, which proved to be an effective parliamentary trick with the recent "Doc Fix", effectively a fixed vote.  They will stop at nothing to clear the path for GOP Inc's RINO nominee for president, whether that be Bush III or Christie.

Posted by: Born Free at March 31, 2014 06:43 AM (xL8Hf)

278 >>>jwest its comments like this
While everyone is snorting and self-tatooing 'Merica, Fuck Yeah on their stomach,
that cause people to tune you out<<<

Don't forget, "enforce existing law"  is pretty self-evident.

Posted by: Fritz at March 31, 2014 06:43 AM (oJUxt)

279 As a highly respected lawman  with over 30 years seniority, the law is respected in my county.

Posted by: Zombie Sheriff Buford T. Justice at March 31, 2014 06:44 AM (BAS5M)

280 Amnesty... No Fiscal Reforms... Bonehead meeting with Dem type people this weekend... Now a call for Jeb Bush??? So we can have a Clinton vs. Bush Election??? Can I haz my third party yet???

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 31, 2014 06:44 AM (84gbM)

281 "If Jeb runs he still has to win the primaries."

GOP primary voters haven't shown themselves in recent years to have a single lick of sense when it comes to nominating candidates who can win the general election.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 06:44 AM (noWW6)

282 CBD notice he doesn't say a thing about the millions of illegal aliens already here. He only talks about "securing the border", which they all say. Without specifics, its meaningless to me. And will he deport the ones already here? No clue. He does not say

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:44 AM (zOTsN)

283 274  Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 11:42 AM (QFxY5)


But when he talks to Hispanics he says something different.  Not only that, but that entire statement is virtually meaningless except for the useless fence.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:44 AM (T2V/1)

284 "Speaker Boner and his anti-conservative team ofRyan, Cantor, McCarthy, et al will pass it in the dead of night with a voice vote..." You bet they will. Better bunch of cocksuckers I've never been around.

Posted by: Barry at March 31, 2014 06:45 AM (gOoFi)

285 The newest immigration sob story from a little girl, Jersey, who made a presentation in DC, usually omits the fact that the reason her father is being deported is that he was convicted for drunk driving and served a six-month sentence.

Posted by: PJ at March 31, 2014 06:45 AM (ZWaLo)

286 268 Wouldn't that be a vote for Clinton? Posted by: Tami at March 31, 2014 11:18 AM (bCEmE) Fine. Whoever. Let it burn. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 11:40 AM (BZAd3) Ok, but it would still by a 'dynasty' vote.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 31, 2014 06:46 AM (bCEmE)

287

It's time to send bills to Mexico and all the other central/south american countries for the costs associated with their citizens residing in our country.

---

Shouldn't those be Guillermos rather than Bills?

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 31, 2014 06:46 AM (SO2Q8)

288 I want off this planet sometimes.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 31, 2014 11:43 AM (HDwDg)


----


For that..... you need transpiration from us.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at March 31, 2014 06:47 AM (nELVU)

289

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 11:44 AM (zOTsN)

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:44 AM (T2V/1)

Agreed that Paul has taken a dangerous stance on amnesty, but saying that he is for open borders is simply not true.

Fences can work, as Israel has demonstrated quite effectively.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 06:47 AM (QFxY5)

290 Back to the book.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 06:47 AM (T2V/1)

291 We need new laws because the old laws are old and nobody wants to enforce them and if you are in favor of enforcing the old laws then your just not understanding that the old laws we don't want to enforce are broken and we need new laws so that we don't have to follow the old laws that are broken so that we need new laws.... -- From the recieved wisdom of jwest on immigration law, with new forward by ted "the swimmer" kennedy.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 31, 2014 06:47 AM (74T7W)

292 Oh.....I just love this software.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 06:47 AM (QFxY5)

293 270 jwest its comments like this While everyone is snorting and self-tatooing 'Merica, Fuck Yeah on their stomach, that cause people to tune you out Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 11:41 AM (zOTsN) I always start every thread nice and take a good amount of shit before replying in kind.

Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 06:47 AM (u2a4R)

294 But don't worry, Obama is quadrupling immigration from African countries with Ebola outbreaks! Yay Diversity! Think of all the Diverse Diseases we'll get!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 06:48 AM (ZPrif)

295

Nobody goes  haul-assing through my parish without getting stomped by me.  Even secret agent one-man  doomsday machines.

Posted by: Zombie Sheriff JW Pepper at March 31, 2014 06:48 AM (BAS5M)

296
ot info bleg:  does anyone have a kindle fire hd and can you connect it to your tv with a hdmi cable?  The net gives conflicting info.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 06:48 AM (0Kobm)

297 FYI: That creamy goodness in your mouth didn't come from me.

Posted by: Barky McPhuckstick at March 31, 2014 06:48 AM (yn6XZ)

298 it depends on what you think a "fence" is and how complete it should be. Ask John McCain. It could be entirely meaningless. I agree fences work. I don't know what Paul means when he says enforce the border

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:49 AM (zOTsN)

299 jwest, you are pretty much always a lying maggot from what I can tell.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 06:49 AM (ZPrif)

300 ]The link I had this morning on the news thread had it.


http://tinyurl.com/mmsxwvl

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:35 AM (T2V/1)




Yeah, I looked at that, but it didn't include any links to actual primary sources for their definitions of what was and was not considered a "minor traffic offense" or a "criminal alien."  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 06:49 AM (4df7R)

301 Ok, but it would still by a 'dynasty' vote.

Posted by: Tami at March 31, 2014 11:46 AM (bCEmE)


In other words, not much of a choice.

Posted by: [/i]KG at March 31, 2014 06:50 AM (p7BzH)

302 I always start every thread nice and take a good amount of shit before replying in kind. Posted by: jwest I guess I missed the earlier commentary of giving you shit

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:50 AM (zOTsN)

303 " it depends on what you think a "fence" is " If by "fence" you mean the guy that I sell my stolen shit to then, yeah, I'm all for it.

Posted by: LIV at March 31, 2014 06:50 AM (gOoFi)

304 If we don't get serious about deporting people who are here illegally, and that means all illegals, there is absolutely NO disincentive for people trying to cross the border illegally. It ain't Brain surgery

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 06:51 AM (t3UFN)

305 Yeah, I looked at that, but it didn't include any links to actual primary sources for their definitions of what was and was not considered a "minor traffic offense" or a "criminal alien." They're tryin' mighty hard to not say "felons".

Posted by: Blinding Flash of the Obvious at March 31, 2014 06:51 AM (yn6XZ)

306 >>We Released Almost 70,000 Illegal Immigrants Who Had Criminal Records*<<

*This headline sponsored by your local Chamber of Commerce.

Many of whom are cutting your grass, painting your house and performing other service industry chores. But feel safe as you have those people around your home and family. Otherwise, you are a racist.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 31, 2014 06:51 AM (GGCsk)

307 Paul's statement at his website talks generally about enforcing existing laws, empowering the states and enforcing the border. He does not say one thing about deportation

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:52 AM (zOTsN)

308 " there is absolutely NO disincentive for people trying to cross the border illegally. " Zackly. The Dems have a future planned upon campaigning on skin tone.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:52 AM (gOoFi)

309 ot info bleg: does anyone have a kindle fire hd and can you connect it to your tv with a hdmi cable? The net gives conflicting info. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 11:48 AM (0Kobm) Which generation? If you have a mini-hd out on it, then yes, you can. You just have to be sure you have a hdmi cable with the correct size connection.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 06:53 AM (mf5HN)

310 I understand that the RINO bashing is cathartic, but jeeze people, aren't there more productive ways to use our time and effort? A few minutes spent penning (and by that I mean handwritten and addressed) a letter has more impact then an entire day spent railing here. I know, I know..., people say that they have done it, and their letters are ignored. Well, no they aren't. And to the extent that they are, it is because there are not enough of them. Just saying...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 06:54 AM (aDwsi)

311 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 11:42 AM (QFxY5) Thank you for correcting that. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing Rand Paul's positions misrepresented by those who know nothing about him or his positions.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 06:54 AM (7ObY1)

312 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 11:48 AM (0Kobm)

I have a new Kindke HDX, and it does not have an HDMI port.

There is a system called "Second Screen," that will allow you to watch stuff from the Kindle on a big screen, but I have not used it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 06:54 AM (QFxY5)

313 Zackly. The Dems have a future planned upon campaigning on skin tone. Posted by: Ricardo Kill well it should be interesting. Cause Charlie Rangel is gonna get pushed out by a Hispanic, and some day so will Sheila Jackson Lee

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:54 AM (zOTsN)

314 Can we just let ALL the Mexicans in, then annex the place?

Posted by: Sphynx at March 31, 2014 06:54 AM (OZmbA)

315 well it should be interesting. Cause Charlie Rangel is gonna get pushed out by a Hispanic, and some day so will Sheila Jackson Lee Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 11:54 AM (zOTsN) chickens coming home to roost?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 06:55 AM (t3UFN)

316 Thank you for correcting that. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing Rand Paul's positions misrepresented by those who know nothing about him or his positions. Posted by: Citizen X hey I asked an honest question and I find it very suspect he does not say what he will do with the illegal aliens already here

Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:55 AM (zOTsN)

317 The last time I looked that up it is and it isn't depending on the circumstances. If you immigrate you can not have dual citizenship, however if you are born to US parent(s) in a foreign country you can. Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:39 AM (T2V/1) Its still in the oath that you give up allegiance to the other country, but it is not legally binding.... because of our own Supreme Court. You can be an immigrant, get citizenship, AND retains citizenship in another country.... you specifically have to, on paper, give that other countries citizenship up... and they do not enforce this.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 31, 2014 06:55 AM (84gbM)

318 Whose side are YOU on?

Posted by: The National Review at March 31, 2014 06:56 AM (5tpzF)

319 Didn't Rand give a speech in Texas a month or so ago where, while not directly calling for amnesty, said that Texas and the GOP needed to be more open and accepting of people?

Posted by: Adam at March 31, 2014 06:56 AM (Aif/5)

320
thanks atc, I am guessing I need a hdmi with 2 male ends and a mini connector male with hdmi female other end.

so I will search.



*awaits hq moron comments on male-female connections*

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 06:57 AM (0Kobm)

321

>>>and their letters are ignored. Well, no they aren't.

 

The ones with white powder get everyone's attention

Posted by: TSA at March 31, 2014 06:57 AM (3ZtZW)

322 232 Look at the flowers. Just look at the flowers. -- Heh. Little psycho Lizzie is the ultimate little liberal - can't kill actual threats to life, has no problem killing humans.

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 06:58 AM (GSIDW)

323 Does anyone know what is up with the music that comes up if the www.ace.mu.nu tab is left open?   First noticed it on Friday and its still happening so doesn't seem to be a specific ad but maybe its now in the ad wrapper or whatever its called?  

Posted by: PaleRider at March 31, 2014 06:59 AM (FYUWS)

324 It's not illegal to be illegal in Massachusetts

Posted by: Martha Coakley at March 31, 2014 06:59 AM (fvZcg)

325
Heh. Little psycho Lizzie is the ultimate little liberal - can't kill actual threats to life, has no problem killing humans.

Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 11:58 AM (GSIDW)

 

That episode left me emotionally drained. 

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 06:59 AM (DrWcr)

326 Being open and accepting of people has nothing to do with enforcing the law and protecting our Borders and any attempt to compare the 2 is stupid and assinine

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 06:59 AM (t3UFN)

327 Yes, here it is http://tinyurl.com/nd3pbu Like I said, he doesn't outright call for amnesty but he makes it sound like that's what he would be in favor of.

Posted by: Adam at March 31, 2014 06:59 AM (Aif/5)

328 If we could just get comprehensive immigration reform by the same people who brought us Obamacare, boy, that would be sweet.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 31, 2014 07:00 AM (xjRCx)

329

hdmi with 2 male ends

 

Go on...

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at March 31, 2014 07:00 AM (DrWcr)

330 "I always start every thread nice and take a good amount of shit before replying in kind." Calling you a dishonest turd for your routine failure to respond to counterarguments isn't 'giving you shit'. It's accurately labeling you for the troll you are.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 07:00 AM (HLprW)

331 Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 11:55 AM (zOTsN)

Well, he does....sort of:

"I support local solutions to illegal immigration as protected by the 10th amendment. I support making English the official language of all documents and contracts."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 07:02 AM (QFxY5)

332 Was I the only one who went "Fuck Yeah!" when Rick ripped that guy's throat out with his teeth?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 07:02 AM (HLprW)

333 These are your fucking Dreamers. Who'd a thunk most violent crime is committed by males in their 20s?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 31, 2014 07:02 AM (Y92Nd)

334 Friggin' audio-only ads that occur at random moments while reading the comments here are getting annoying. If I were at work and reading AoSHQ on the sly, that'd kinda be embarrassing, eh? (lucky for me I'm self-employed, so the sudden blast of audio just wakes up the cat) Just sayin'.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at March 31, 2014 07:02 AM (2oU2+)

335 Being open and accepting of people has nothing to do with enforcing the law and protecting our Borders and any attempt to compare the 2 is stupid and assinine

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 11:59 AM (t3UFN)


Yea but that's a meaningless statement, to "be open and accepting of people". What? We are the problem? Really? Sounds too close to Perry's heartless comment, tbh.

Posted by: [/i]KG at March 31, 2014 07:02 AM (p7BzH)

336 chickens coming home to roost? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 11:55 AM (t3UFN) Los pollos volveran.

Posted by: AMDG at March 31, 2014 07:03 AM (eFytx)

337 332 Was I the only one who went "Fuck Yeah!" when Rick ripped that guy's throat out with his teeth?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 12:02 PM (HLprW)

 

Nope!  I felt even better when he gutted that other marauder.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 07:03 AM (DrWcr)

338 Being open and accepting of people has nothing to do with enforcing the law and protecting our Borders ---------- How about saying we need to "evolve" on immigration reform? That enough to make you wonder?

Posted by: Adam at March 31, 2014 07:04 AM (Aif/5)

339 I for one welcome the impending Field Marshal Rodham regime.

Posted by: A message at March 31, 2014 07:04 AM (fsHdl)

340 Posted by: WalrusRex at March 31, 2014 12:00 PM (xjRCx)

That will work.

Have them build a website where illegals register to become legal residents.

It would take 200 years to register all of them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 07:05 AM (QFxY5)

341 How about saying we need to "evolve" on immigration reform? That enough to make you wonder? Posted by: Adam at March 31, 2014 12:04 PM (Aif/5) Well I think we have to devolve back to the time when we enforced laws and made at least a passing attempt to enforce the border.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 07:05 AM (t3UFN)

342 "But don't worry, Obama is quadrupling immigration from African countries with Ebola outbreaks! Yay Diversity! Think of all the Diverse Diseases we'll get!"

Mass immigration with no medical controls is already bringing us a laundry list of disease. Drug resistant tuberculosis is going off the charts in several big U.S. cities.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 07:06 AM (noWW6)

343 Here is what Rand Paul says about illegals that are here.  He wants a pathway to citizenship, which is nothing more than amnesty:


http://tinyurl.com/cmsc4oy

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 07:06 AM (T2V/1)

344 yeah cbd, the first gen fire hd has a port but it is mini-b so its kind of a conundrum. my guess is they got rid of the port to wireless in the later versions.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 07:07 AM (0Kobm)

345 ATC will soon get to see a competent Cleveland Browns team in draft selections.  Oh sure its a fictional movie starring Kevin Costner, but its probably the closest that she'll get to seeing that.

Posted by: buzzion at March 31, 2014 07:07 AM (LI48c)

346 "Have them build a website where illegals register to become legal residents. It would take 200 years to register all of them. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 31, 2014 12:05 PM (QFxY5)" But a certain dipshit upthread assures me that the government will be able to effectively collect all the data it needs on them.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 07:08 AM (HLprW)

347 new one

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 07:10 AM (T2V/1)

348 Heh. Little psycho Lizzie is the ultimate little liberal - can't kill actual threats to life, has no problem killing humans. Posted by: votermom at March 31, 2014 11:58 AM (GSIDW) That episode left me emotionally drained. That episode left me with a new buzz phrase.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2014 07:10 AM (b1/nQ)

349

If it hasn't been  mentioned yet, the best way to get rid of the illegals is to cut them off of the free shit.  

 

Repealing the "anchor baby" law would help too.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2014 07:11 AM (NM86I)

350 "Have them build a website where illegals register to become legal residents." That's not realistic.

Posted by: Barry at March 31, 2014 07:11 AM (gOoFi)

351 That episode left me with a new buzz phrase.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2014 12:10 PM (b1/nQ)

 

Well, that too.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 07:13 AM (DrWcr)

352 >50 No one seriously thinks that 12 million illegal aliens are going to be rounded up and deported. I do. At a time when the total US population was 126 million, we rounded up and interned 3 million Japanese Americans in concentration camps. That's a comparable percentage of the population, and they did it with a much smaller aviation infrastructure, and no interstate highway system. Even the GOPe "Declaration of Principles" says this is a last offer, meaning, if the wetbacks don't comply with this amnesty, they're going to deport however many millions refuse. You have no basis to say "nobody supports mass deportation" when Rubio & Ryan say it's the fallback.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at March 31, 2014 07:14 AM (5xmd7)

353 wait, I need a micro D, or something, I don't know. screw it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 07:16 AM (0Kobm)

354 Best I can tell, the plan is to rail against amnesty until there's an amnesty, and then rail against the amnesty.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at March 31, 2014 07:25 AM (m0h0I)

355 "310 I understand that the RINO bashing is cathartic, but jeeze people, aren't there more productive ways to use our time and effort?

A few minutes spent penning (and by that I mean handwritten and addressed) a letter has more impact then an entire day spent railing here.

I know, I know..., people say that they have done it, and their letters are ignored. Well, no they aren't. And to the extent that they are, it is because there are not enough of them.

Just saying...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 11:54 AM (aDwsi)"



Yes.  There are more productive ways that people who care about the future of this country could be spending their time.  For example look at the website www.rvotes.com.  This is the product that Democrats have been using to kick our asses in elections since 2005.  It is available for Republicans but the problem with it is that it relies on volunteers and concerned people doing the work to keep the database up to date and that decreases the influence of the big money people and the political consultants that they pay for with their contributions.  If you read Democrat sites where they talk about the mechanics of winning elections instead of ideology, they talk about this data collection and updating all the time as well as ways to use this data.  They now have almost ten years of experience using this product while the Republican Party uses "Voter Vault", a 1990s era system based on a top down model that provides outdated information to campaigns with 30% or more of the information out of date or wrong.



The rVotes system is available to state or county Republican organizations as well as to Tea Party groups.  It is scalable and it allows information collected by individual campaigns to be shared or to be kept private. 



If this system were available to Republicans, they could do what Democrats can do when they get pissed off.  They can go ring doorbells and update the database so that in a few months when the election campaigns start in earnest, they will have already done a lot of the ground work in data collection that will allow limited campaign resources to be targeted at 1) trying to persuade people who can be persuaded and 2) encouraging voters to turn out to the polls.  Instead, Republicans will continue wasting money sending generic, rather than targeted, campaign literature to the addresses of people who have moved away.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 31, 2014 07:28 AM (PD6iL)

356 "349 If it hasn't been mentioned yet, the best way to get rid of the illegals is to cut them off of the free shit.

Repealing the "anchor baby" law would help too.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2014 12:11 PM (NM86I)"



The "anchor baby law" is the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.  I have kind of an issue with disregarding parts of the Constitution to solve immediate problems.  There is already a political party that has ignoring the Constitution as one of its tenets but it is not the Republican party.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 31, 2014 07:35 AM (PD6iL)

357 If you immigrate you can not have dual citizenship, however if you are born to US parent(s) in a foreign country you can.

Posted by: Vic at March 31, 2014 11:39 AM (T2V/1)

 

 

This isn't a surprise.  Let us say our foreign nation is Lower Slobovia.  Mr. and Mrs. USA Citizen have their child.  By US law that child is an American citizen.  Lower Solbovian law states that anyone born in Lower Slobovia is a Lower Slobovian, thus USA Citizen, Jr. is also a citizen of Lower Slobovia.

 

 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at March 31, 2014 08:19 AM (hLRSq)

358 As a general rule, Republicans tend to nominate the favorite, Democrats tend to go for the outsider.

Bush III might have problems getting the Dem nomination, as will Hillary if Booker or someone else jumps in. But he would probably have a straightforward run in the Republican race.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 11:41 AM (kdS6q)

 

Neither Gore nor Kerry were Outsiders when they won their nomination.

 

Let us also see who is running before we suddenly starting having fits.  People have to step forward to run  first before you know who the choices are going to be, and last I checked the nominees still have to win the primaries.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at March 31, 2014 08:24 AM (hLRSq)

359 GOP primary voters haven't shown themselves in recent years to have a single lick of sense when it comes to nominating candidates who can win the general election.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 11:44 AM (noWW6)

 

 

2000 and 2004 the GOP nominee won election and reelection.  Each election is its own election. 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at March 31, 2014 08:26 AM (hLRSq)

360 The GOP establishment has a fever and the only cure is more Jeb "Amnesty" Bush. It's not a fever, it's a major ailment, and the Republican establishment is going to succumb to it if they don't take the proper medicine.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at March 31, 2014 08:52 AM (vd7A8)

361 The Obama Administration has gained control of and is subverting the laws of the land in every meaningful way. 

Posted by: gracepmc at March 31, 2014 09:13 AM (rznx3)

362 Hint: If it starts with "enforce existing law" you need to expand on that and say exactly what it entails.

Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2014 11:22 AM (u2a4R)


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Current federal law prohibits illegal aliens from receiving taxpayer-funded benefits like food stamps, welfare, Medicare Part D prescription drug benefits, etc.  Yet the Obama administration is knowingly paying out many billions of dollars' worth of such benefits to illegal aliens every year, in clear violation of the law.  Start there.  Enforce existing law, and cut them off.


One of the strongest incentives that draws illegal aliens to the U.S. (and keeps them here) is the prospect of receiving all these "free" benefits.  Next, end the payment of EITC, dependent-child, and other tax "credits" to illegal aliens.  Again, the Obama administration pays out billions of tax dollars every year in these "credits" to illegal aliens.  Cut them off.  


Next, actually deport illegal alien criminals caught in the U.S. (as required by current law), rather than the idiotic "catch and release" nonsense  currently being practiced by the Obama administration. 

I could go on, but if the government with just start with those three, we'd have a much smaller problem to deal with.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (YlsjN)

363 Forcible deportation of that many people is impossible without using the military, and that'd be ridiculous and inhumane

Posted by: Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce at March 31, 2014 10:42 AM (5xmd7)

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