July 30, 2017

Here's A Take On The "Transgender" Ban From Someone Who Has Been The Tip Of The Spear
— Open Blogger

This is one man's experience, but what he says makes sense, and doesn't apply just to "transgenders." Wounded Warrior's 17-Tweet Tirade Is Getting Attention for Its Explanation of Trump's Transgender Ban. Psychological stability seems like it is a reasonable prerequisite for military service. Even some stable and mature men see combat and come home with significant psychological issues. It is simply rational to restrict entry into the military to those who are emotionally even-keeled and best able to handle the stress of combat.

I have stolen OregonMuse's idea and made the tweet storm easier to read....


  • I served in Iraq in 2006. For the first five months I was on a 12 man firebase out in the middle of nowhere in the desert.

  • Everyday was Groundhog Day. Wake up and do the same patrols, the same shifts, every single day. It was so damn hot. 150° in the gun trucks.

  • Tracer fire would go overhead occasionally at night. IED's on the road were a daily threat. We got resupplied food every 8 days.
  • QRF was an hour away. After they made the minimum three gun truck rule after the guys got kidnapped, life got harder.

  • The stress of being out there and doing the same job every single day eats away at you. The younger guys had problems with that overtime.

  • Any tiny little personal issue they had suddenly became a mountain. And that shit came out on that fire base. And they snapped mentally.

  • After stepping on each other's nuts living in the same can for five months, guys were at each other's throats. The stress made it worse.

  • Guys would literally snap over a dear John letter. Their personal issues came out and they were instantly combat ineffective.

  • Now take someone confused about whether they are a man/woman. Take those psychological and emotional issues and put them in that environment

  • Take someone who is right off the bat not uniform or part of the same team. Give them special treatment because of their identity.

  • Take that person, put them in that stressful war environment and watch what happens. It's a fucking ticking time bomb.

  • You have to be incredibly tough mentally, physically and emotionally. War is not a fucking video game. It tests every ounce of your being.

  • You can't teach someone to be a fearless warrior in a fucking PowerPoint. You either have it or you don't. You can hack it or you can't.

  • We had guys who couldn't. When faced with combat situations they crumbled. They had mental and emotional issues. They were a liability.

  • To be successful at war, you have to become a warrior mentally, physically, and emotionally. You can't fake it and go through the motions.

  • In war if it comes down to kill or be killed, and you hesitate, you're dead. It's a simple as that. It's not a fucking video game.

  • War is no place for people who are mentally, emotionally, or physically confused or in turmoil. You have your shit together, or you don't.

  • And if you don't, you'll just get people needlessly killed. Political correctness has absolutely no place in the military.

  • Enough for now. This one armed veteran has a business to run. Unlike Iran, the country that took my arm, Obama didn't pay me millions.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:26 AM | Comments (466)
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1 Roomy in here.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 30, 2017 07:16 AM (6dHfc)

2 Corgis called.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 30, 2017 07:18 AM (6dHfc)

3 Oh, and First.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 30, 2017 07:19 AM (6dHfc)

4 What's the next Stupidity we'll need to make a case against? What a stupid world we live in.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 30, 2017 07:20 AM (fMj88)

5 Transgender ban in the military--one more Trump success. Suck it, snowflakes.

Posted by: John Acosta at July 30, 2017 07:20 AM (3dWfm)

6 This reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxn_uRnfsLA

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 30, 2017 07:20 AM (fMj88)

7 Rubbish. A REAL man would be willing to sacrifice a few lives for someone's emotional fulfillment and validation. /s

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 30, 2017 07:21 AM (6wURk)

8 As long as the Fascist Left keeps ringing those bells, just like those cats, we'll keep rewarding them.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 30, 2017 07:21 AM (fMj88)

9 Off, CNN drama king sock!

Posted by: fly gal at July 30, 2017 07:21 AM (3dWfm)

10 So you're saying they belong in Group W with the father stabbers, mother rapers, and father rapers.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 30, 2017 07:21 AM (Nwg0u)

11 No one has the right to be in the military. Excluding transgenders has a rational basis. QED.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 07:23 AM (pV/54)

12 Guys would literally snap over a dear John letter. Their personal issues came out and they were instantly combat ineffective.
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Yep and Yep.  Your wife runs off with another guy and cleans out your bank account.  You're helpless to do anything about it.  You snap.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 30, 2017 07:23 AM (lwiT4)

13 @5 Transgender ban in the military--one more Trump success. ---------------------- Not really. Barring some big cultural shift (and even that might not be enough), the next Dem president will simply rescind it.

Posted by: junior at July 30, 2017 07:23 AM (Q6qiA)

14 Good post. Also, some of those guys coming back and telling everyone they're really supposed to be a woman, that's also a psychological reaction to the process. In other words, less about what they brought into the war zone, and more about what they took out. Or left behind. Sending people IN with that on their minds is crazy and stupid and as everyone with any amount of sense can tell you, it is counter purpose to the reason we have a military: to kill effectively. Now, as we know, there are many people who join the "military" to be civilians in uniform. If you want to say after you joined that you like wearing panties and bras under your uniform, we'll find a REMF job for you. There are plenty of those.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2017 07:24 AM (Pz4pT)

15 Off topic: this cat vs dog video is a very important metaphor. The cat is a conservative. The dog represents encroaching government. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS0fX6qvfOc

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 30, 2017 07:26 AM (/qEW2)

16 [willowed from the last thread]
Freud is to psychology as Dr. Spock is to child-rearing.

Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 30, 2017 12:20 PM
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grammie, have you read any Viktor Frankl? I think you might like him. He's the founder of logotherapy.

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 07:26 AM (aT+Bx)

17 What we've lost because of Trump's narrow minded hatred. https://tinyurl.com/y9vkwpcu

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 30, 2017 07:26 AM (Nwg0u)

18 I'm sure someone else has made this observation: Your average Progressive would decry someone with suicidal thoughts because of manner of dysphoria obtaining a firearm, even a .22 caliber pistol. Yet, involve national defense and suddenly granting access to the most sophisticated military weaponry is a national priority.

Posted by: RS at July 30, 2017 07:26 AM (CNQqJ)

19 grammie, have you read any Viktor Frankl? I think you might like him. He's the founder of logotherapy.

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 12:26 PM (aT+Bx)

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I have read him, but it's been a very very long time.


Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 30, 2017 07:27 AM (lwiT4)

20
What's the next Stupidity we'll need to make a case against?
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My vote? Polygamy. Must allow it because of Islam.

But I think their holy grail is normalizing pedophilia.

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 07:28 AM (aT+Bx)

21 Yep and Yep. Your wife runs off with another guy and cleans out your bank account. You're helpless to do anything about it. You snap. Posted by: grammie winger - 8 pounds heavier but with a great tan at July 30, 2017 12:23 PM (lwiT4) It's his fault anyway. If he'd just manned up and been more attentive to her feelz, she never would've done that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 07:28 AM (0mRoj)

22 18 I'm sure someone else has made this observation: Your average Progressive would decry someone with suicidal thoughts because of manner of dysphoria obtaining a firearm, even a .22 caliber pistol. Yet, involve national defense and suddenly granting access to the most sophisticated military weaponry is a national priority.

FIFY

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 07:28 AM (LAe3v)

23 I'm sure the Rand Corporation will come out with a study claiming trannies are more psychologically stable than normal folks.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 30, 2017 07:29 AM (IqV8l)

24 Those who have never been deployed to a shitty situation, have no idea what stress does to you.... and to unit cohesion... The unit cohesion that keeps you alive, in that shit. Putting any type of Eros into that stress... it bad... Putting anyone dysfunctional in, is horrible... Because under stress, our real selves come out... and all emotions are magnified...

Posted by: Don Q., Arcanist at July 30, 2017 07:29 AM (NgKpN)

25 Solid comments. This +100. Also, Mattis sorting out the training issue to focus on real training.

Posted by: Uncle Si at July 30, 2017 07:29 AM (ZLmoR)

26 I have read him, but it's been a very very long time.
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I've read almost all of his books and his ideas really resonate.

Anecdotally, I like Jung from a creative standpoint, but I'm not really sure any of his ideas, outside of personality theory, are really that practical.

But I think that Frankl actually has useful ideas that can help people.

/maybe I need to re-read him...

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 07:30 AM (aT+Bx)

27 25 Solid comments. This +100.
Also, Mattis sorting out the training issue to focus on real training. Posted by: Uncle Si


Disagree.  The average private benefits greatly from Body Size Diversity and Human Trafficking training.*


*Yes, real things.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 07:30 AM (LAe3v)

28 The left loves European values so much, why don't we do the mandatory 18-24 months of service like they do? Why we could have the worlds first tranny combat regiment. I would think they would be overjoyed, because they don't have some other agenda do they?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 30, 2017 07:31 AM (1mXST)

29 Human Trafficking training It's good to have marketable skills when you get out of the service.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 07:31 AM (0mRoj)

30 First mistake is operating on the assumption that "liberals" are amenable to facts, logic, or reason. It is not enough to lay out a methodical, step by step repudiation of their assertions, because their minds are made up. They will not shutup and they won't change the subject.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 07:31 AM (wOZdC)

31 Are you telling me that Cpl. Klinger wasn't a beloved member of the 4077th?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 30, 2017 07:32 AM (1JnAL)

32 Salzman is 100% correct.  I've had to deal with someone "transitioning" in the workplace, it's a damned nightmare.  I'll spare all the freakish details, but here's a description of what it's like:


Take an otherwise normal grown man and replace his personality with that of a 13-14 year old girl going through puberty, with all the angsty crying jags, mood swings, emotional outbursts, and irrationality that that entails.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 07:32 AM (yzxic)

33 Why we could have the worlds first tranny combat regiment. I would think they would be overjoyed

It would never work.  Everyone wearing the same outfit?  Meeoooowwwww.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 07:32 AM (LAe3v)

34 Boom. I don't know what drove the crap the most: the SJWs just took all the ARMY recruitment ads of the 90s and went "well everybody should get those bennies" and Baracka and his ilk were working to weaken our military to increase the chances of either the commies or muzzies winning WW3.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 30, 2017 07:32 AM (8qFZP)

35 I've said it before and I'll say it again. The purpose of the military is not to defend us in the most effective and efficient way possible. The purpose of the military is to allow women with penises to get their dicks chopped off for free. It's obvious, to all but blind bigoted backwards retards from flyover country!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 30, 2017 07:33 AM (/qEW2)

36 The left loves European values so much, why don't we do the mandatory 18-24 months of service like they do? Why we could have the worlds first tranny combat regiment. I would think they would be overjoyed, because they don't have some other agenda do they?
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The tranny and gay units could be loaned out to the USO. And by loaned out, I mean permanently made a part of the USO.

Think of the fabulous productions! Just like the film Cabaret!

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 07:33 AM (aT+Bx)

37 the worlds first tranny combat regiment The Fightin' Fe-men

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 30, 2017 07:33 AM (ul9CR)

38 The word is Trump issued the transgender ban because congress was working on their own and he did no want a big fight in congress over it that would endanger other legislation he wanted.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 07:33 AM (mpXpK)

39 Trannies' high rate of suicide makes them excellent candidates for a kamikaze squad. I say we weaponize their lunacy.

Posted by: RKae at July 30, 2017 07:34 AM (s5kbe)

40 But, but, . . . BIGOTRY!!!11!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 30, 2017 07:35 AM (n5n5Q)

41 Welp, went out for breakfast/lunch, mowed the lawn and filled the bird feeders. Checklist complete. I have a work project that I may, repeat MAY take a look at later.

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2017 07:36 AM (Sfs6o)

42 But, but, . . . HATE HAS NO HOME HERE!!!11!!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 30, 2017 07:36 AM (n5n5Q)

43 OTOH, it would be pretty damn demoralizing to a Muzzie to get capped by some 6'3" dude in a feather boa and a Cher wig.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 30, 2017 07:36 AM (ul9CR)

44 In fact, the real agenda is to cause chaos. No reasonable person or group would file a lawsuit against Catholic Nuns, or try to force pedophile Scoutmasters, or chicks with dicks in a dress and a three day shadow into a kind of "Choose Your Own Adventure" bathroom system. Meanwhile, the Republicans, who own 3/3rds of government, can't manage the votes to stop federal funding of an organization in the business of harvesting dead baby parts to sell for profit. In fact, the courageous whistleblowers who brought these atrocities to light are the ones who are worried about prosecution. Pretty wacky if ya ask me.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 07:37 AM (wOZdC)

45 The idea that you must be psychiatrically equipped to handle the stress of combat never enters into the minds of the progs and Hollywood--types who promote transgenders in the military because they are in complete denial that there is anything wrong with transgender people. To them, it's all normal--and they want constant and never-ending validation from everyone else--including the military.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 07:37 AM (7uYFy)

46 One of the others who work at Wally World with me last night decided to open her pie-hole about this. I did not ask for it, she just unloaded.

When I pointed out that 45% of this group tries to commit suicide but they want to ban people with PTSD from owning guns, it was silence. Nor did she buy the argument of how combat ineffective these people would be.

It all boiled down for her that since the military prescribes Viagra, then they should do the same for the transgender crowd.

Truly is pointless to even discuss it with these people.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 30, 2017 07:37 AM (577OG)

47 I think much of that warrior attitude can be brought to every day life.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'redefining anger as a virtue' at July 30, 2017 07:38 AM (Rndb7)

48 Take an otherwise normal grown man and replace his personality with that of a 13-14 year old girl going through puberty, with all the angsty crying jags, mood swings, emotional outbursts, and irrationality that that entails.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 12:32 PM (yzxic)

So...pretty much the ONT on some nights.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 07:38 AM (wYseH)

49 But, but, . . . HOW CAN WE PHRASE THE POLL QUESTION SO AS TO GET OVER HALF GOING WITH THE QUEERS????

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 30, 2017 07:39 AM (n5n5Q)

50 44 In fact, the real agenda is to cause chaos. --------- Absolutely this. 1000% this.

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2017 07:39 AM (Sfs6o)

51 Somebody linked the original Twitter posts the other day. Outstanding. Anyone who still has a problem after reading that is either stupid, or thinks their political agenda is more important than being able to fight and win wars. The word "and" may also apply.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2017 07:39 AM (sdi6R)

52 First mistake is operating on the assumption that "liberals" are amenable to facts, logic, or reason. It is not enough to lay out a methodical, step by step repudiation of their assertions, because their minds are made up. They will not shutup and they won't change the subject.
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I think it's something that can be explained in personality theory, ie, "Thinking" vs. "Feeling." Liberals are generally Feeling types.

Not really sure how this argument is every solved, since Thinkers tend to use "logic and facts" while Feelers use "teh feelingz."

When things get really bad, maybe the anwwer is for Thinking types to just verbally beat down Feeling types and tell them over and over how disagreeaing with them is making them "feel bad." And by "verbally beat down" I pretty much mean "yell at them and make them cry because by disagreeing with you, a Thinkier, the Feeler has really ,really hurt your feelingz."

It probably won't accomplish much, but you'll guilt them into feeling bad and crying.

/yes, I am a horrible person

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 07:41 AM (aT+Bx)

53 So...pretty much the ONT on some nights.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 12:38 PM (wYseH)



Hah, yes.  Also add in wigs, makeup, and training bras.  And the sudden inability to drive, resulting in a total of about $50-60k in damage to retail stock in multiple incidents over a four month span.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 07:41 AM (yzxic)

54 Just thinking out loud here, but do trannies develop an aversion to icky bugs and spiders?  Because I think that might be a problem in the field.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 07:41 AM (LAe3v)

55 So...pretty much the ONT on some nights. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 12:38 PM (wYseH) LOL. But in our defense we've been hitting the value-rite pretty hard by then.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'redefining anger as a virtue' at July 30, 2017 07:42 AM (Rndb7)

56 It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Xve. Trannies = Crazy. Send them to the nuthouse where they belong.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2017 07:42 AM (5VlCp)

57 Any form of OCD is going to be a major problem in a highly stressful environment. The rituals and intrusive thoughts supplant effectively dealing with fear and anxiety - from real or imagined dangers. The rituals for transgenderism never stop no matter the surgeries or exogenous hormones. The anxiety is never relieved, so other means are tired - which explains the much higher addiction, self-mutilation, STD & suicide rates.

Posted by: Batterup at July 30, 2017 07:43 AM (mtGE/)

58 So...pretty much the ONT on some nights.
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No. Not even close.

I work with a gay guy with Histrionic personality disorder, which is pretty much "12 year old girl first period drama," and I've never seen the ONT that bad. I imagine the tranny thing is even worse. 

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 07:43 AM (aT+Bx)

59 Come on, people. Isn't it obvious? If all cismales were castrated at birth, there would be no violence.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 30, 2017 07:43 AM (/qEW2)

60 Saw the Navy SEAL transgender video... Navy Bars be scary...

Posted by: Paladin at July 30, 2017 07:43 AM (mmClB)

61 Not really sure how this argument is every solved, since Thinkers tend to use "logic and facts" while Feelers use "teh feelingz." ---- Haven't you heard the new one? "Thinkers" are the beneficiaries of "cognitive privilege." ...I'm not making this up. Go to infowars or daily caller. It's up on those pages.

Posted by: RKae at July 30, 2017 07:43 AM (s5kbe)

62 Lady Gaga tweets that 45% of trans genders have attempted suicide. Trying to help out, well that wasn't her intention but oh well.

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2017 07:44 AM (pPKG5)

63 I suspect there are at least some democrats who are against any war or conflict, simply because they are acutely aware of how "dirty" some liberals in government are with respect to state secrets and opsec, security issues, etc. Congress has leaked like a sieve since at least the Vietnam War, and probably much earlier.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 07:44 AM (wOZdC)

64 When I pointed out that 45% of this group tries to commit suicide but they want to ban people with PTSD from owning guns, it was silence. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 30, 2017 12:37 PM (577OG) You done good. Suicide and homicide are two sides of the same coin. Ever see the trans-gender homicide rate? Guess what, you'll never find it. Telling, in a government that likes to track the transfat in a cookie to six decimal points of precision.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 07:45 AM (EgwCt)

65 Iran took his arm?

Posted by: Incredulous at July 30, 2017 07:45 AM (cOANc)

66 So there was a grotesque, disgusting penis monster that grafted itself onto my body. I had it slain. I think that was a rather brave, sane thing for me to do.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 30, 2017 07:47 AM (/qEW2)

67 Themper fi, fellas!

Posted by: Your tranny FOB mates at July 30, 2017 07:47 AM (n5n5Q)

68 The brother of someone close to me is a full-blown tranny.  I just met him* and he's a bit of a drama queen.  Well, a lot of one.  Nonetheless, I don't dislike him, he's just not mentally stable. 

Putting him in the military would be sheer lunacy on so many levels. 


*I'm polite and friendly to him, but I refuse to indulge his fantasy.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 07:47 AM (LAe3v)

69 I wasn't in the military, did oilfield work in my 20's instead. But I know firsthand how you never know how people will react to stress. We had military levels of stress I've been on a well having an H2S blowout where we all wearing respiration tanks, and the nature of that stuff is that if your mask slips, you'll be dead in 15 seconds. And for a few years it was my job to defuse any explosives we sent downhole that didn't go off for some reason. I had wired them up, so at least I knew they didn't have any booby traps, but it was still interesting. I was one of those odd birds that actually felt more and more calm the more stress I was under - it gave me clarity. Having peace and quiet and no demands is what made me want to drink and do dissipatory stuff. (yeah, adrenaline junkie probably) But I did see plenty of men, who seemed like any other men, who would just fall apart mentally as soon as any real pressure was put on them. Really starts to show up when you cross the 48 hours without sleep mark.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2017 07:47 AM (V2Yro)

70 'Gays Too Precious To Risk In Combat'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aotlEpmAFVQ

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 30, 2017 07:47 AM (e8kgV)

71 'Gays Too Precious To Risk In Combat' Assange snarked something like, yay America, for convincing transgenders that fighting in its imperialist wars is awesome.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2017 07:49 AM (6FqZa)

72 I don't like to see people suffer. It makes me feel bad. Virtue signaling won't help them. It makes me look good. I think there ways to help people, that takes effort, hard work, and determination. Liberals don't actually believe any of their BS, it's a way of harnessing political power. The more people who are dependent on government, as "victims", they can play middleman. That's why they have to find a scapegoat, someone to blame, for all these victims. It's all couched in pseudo-science and technical mumbo-jumbo the true believers can recite verbatim while they get their degree in advanced Butthurt Studies at our once proud institutions, on your dime.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 07:51 AM (wOZdC)

73 I'm like a nerd. I've been obsessing over Wagner's Ring Cycle lately. Clearly, Wagner was heavily influenced by Nietzche. In the second act of Die Walkure, Woton has a lengthy argument with his wife Fricka in which she upholds traditional morality condemning the adultery of Woton's children Siegsmund with Sieglinde since Sieglinde is already married to Hunding (not to mention that they are brother and sister). Woton accused her of being imprisoned by traditionalism but she eventually convinced him to betray and abandon Siegsmund despite his belief that only Siegsmund can prevent the prophesied defeat and death of the gods, including himself and Fricka. Eventually (in Gotterdammerung) that betrayal does lead to the death of the gods. Is Wagner, who led a non-traditional lifestyle, arguing that only by abandoning traditional rules of morality can we escape society's destruction? If so, that may help to explain Hitler's worship of Wagner. And Hitler's abandonment of traditional morality didn't work out too well for him.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 30, 2017 07:51 AM (Nwg0u)

74 When I pointed out that 45% of this group tries to commit suicide but they want to ban people with PTSD from owning guns, it was silence. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 30, 2017 12:37 PM (577OG) I don't know. Is it really a good idea for people with PTSD to own guns? My BIL had a nervous breakdown and suffered from depression. He wasn't a soldier, but he did hunt, and my sister made him get rid of all his guns--which he did, without a fight.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 07:51 AM (7uYFy)

75 I forgot where I saw a article on this breakdown of trans genders already serving in the military yesterday. Guesses went all over the place ftom a independent organization's 2,500, the militarys guess maybe -5,000 to x Navy Seal TG 100,000. But then odd balls always assume everyone is like them.

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2017 07:51 AM (pPKG5)

76 Nonetheless, I don't dislike him, he's just not mentally stable.

He's a looker as long as you don't probe too deeply.  **cough**

He is deeply depressed because a) his mother just died, which is clearly understandable, but b) he can't get dates.  I don't see his love life taking off, because normal men and women won't have anything to do with him.

I feel sorry for him, I really do. 

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 07:52 AM (LAe3v)

77 Iran took his arm?

Posted by: Incredulous at July 30, 2017 12:45 PM (cOANc)



IED made in Iran or with Iranian-supplied components.  There was a very high incident of both in Iraq, which is something our betters in the MSM would rather we not know about.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 07:53 AM (yzxic)

78 Homo lives a couple of doors up - regulat ol' plain white bread home, not a tranny as far as I know - anyhoo, he's got the typical super-fag-brittle yell-at-him-and-he-cries personality. He'd be the last person, or at least in the last 10 people I'd want in any sort of stressful situation where others were depending on him for anything, much less their lives.

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2017 07:53 AM (Sfs6o)

79 >>I'm sure the Rand Corporation will come out with a study claiming trannies are more psychologically stable than normal folks.


Yeah, that ridiculously high suicide rate is totes someone else's fault...or something.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at July 30, 2017 07:54 AM (NOIQH)

80 We may not have a shooting war with the NORKs but it looks like we will have a trade war with China over it. That'd be a big development, no? Trump hints that he'll put Congresscritters into OCare. Wants to force the Senate to drop the 60 vote filibuster rule.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 07:54 AM (pV/54)

81
   There is no such thing as transgender.  Our species comes in 2 varieties, male and female.

  For those who are confused as to which they are, help is available to resolve this mental/emotional issue.

 The military is absolutely the wrong place for ANY type of social experimentation, thus all transgender claimants MUST be purged.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 30, 2017 07:54 AM (S/hVx)

82 What red blooded heterosexual male doesn't want to become a lesbian??? But we know that would be a descent into madness, absurdity.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 30, 2017 07:55 AM (/qEW2)

83 Bookworm wrote a, uh, detailed post related to this: homosexuals in the military.

http://www.bookwormroom.com/2017/07/27/   
gay-lifestyle-unhealthy-military/

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at July 30, 2017 07:55 AM (NOIQH)

84 great post! however, while I hear all of this, I know in my heart of hearts that the military would find a way to NOT put trans folks in the trenches. UNFAIRLY and behind the scences of course, but that would be their hidden secret and then declare the experiment successful.

Posted by: Slinky Sally at July 30, 2017 07:56 AM (kxT6D)

85 Loved a couple of his other responses: https://twitter.com/jrsalzman/status/890562644322668544 And one more I'm having trouble getting to...brb..

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 30, 2017 07:56 AM (wwL6Q)

86 I was a SEAL. Never saw any trannies. Saw quite a few during my Governorship.

Posted by: Jesse Ventura at July 30, 2017 07:56 AM (bc2Lc)

87 Has anyone seen stats on % transgenders who are also on some form or anti-depressant?

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at July 30, 2017 07:56 AM (NOIQH)

88 JoeF, the Left wants a group with a 45% suicide attempt rate to be issued M-16s or to really make you turn white put them where the nuclear weapons are. But if you have PTSD this same Left wants to deny you because they think you are not mentally competent.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 30, 2017 07:57 AM (577OG)

89 This is the most truth filled series of observations about the Military, combat and the troops I have ever read.
I have seen it happen, bad news from home and troops/sailors snap and start to see everyone as their foe.
The least little word, poor remark or innocent jibe can become a killing event.
To introduce the various genders and sexual preferences is more than just allowing females and different races it adds to the stress and the focus of someones misdirected ire.
A person who is a male but thinks, wishes to be female or vice versus is not stable enough to be a combat soldier nor to be involved with soldiers who are not so confused about their sex and gender trying to stay alive, in one piece and mentally well while trying to win a war and battle.
This integration might be good for a peacetime military but for one that has been at war since 2000 it is suicide.
It's hard enough to stay sane when you are only fighting the enemy, impossible while fighting home, and undergoing social engineering.

Posted by: obsidian at July 30, 2017 07:57 AM (ARK2U)

90 Here we go. Fell off the chair at this one: https://twitter.com/jrsalzman/status/890269710192852992

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 30, 2017 07:58 AM (wwL6Q)

91 44 In fact, the real agenda is to cause chaos. --------- Absolutely this. 1000% this. Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2017 12:39 PM (Sfs6o) This is true, but only among the movement's "thought leaders" and truth be told, they would be very easy to defeat on their own. The trouble is that they inspire and spawn millions of touchy-feely bleeding hearts, many with their own issues, who go along with them and it's these millions that politicians, media and corporations are responding to when they fold like cheap cameras to assuage their delicate sensibilities...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 07:58 AM (7uYFy)

92 I was a SEAL. Never saw any trannies. Saw quite a few during my Governorship. Posted by: Jesse Ventura at July 30, 2017 12:56 PM (bc2Lc) You were? News to me.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 30, 2017 07:58 AM (sf2BM)

93 I can tell you from personal experience -- this guy is right.

Posted by: Brian Williams [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 07:59 AM (ZcAbN)

94 So Iran paid him millions??

Posted by: Grammar Police at July 30, 2017 07:59 AM (OZmbA)

95 If you didn't watch the Stefan Molyneaux link from earlier, it's worth your time. http://bit.ly/2vVvRqI

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 30, 2017 07:59 AM (Lqy/e)

96 Ah, just look at all his tweets. I predict we'll be hearing more from him because he has a way with words.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 30, 2017 08:00 AM (wwL6Q)

97 Trump hints that he'll put Congresscritters into OCare. Easy to say. How easy to do?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 30, 2017 08:00 AM (IqV8l)

98 JoeF, the Left wants a group with a 45% suicide attempt rate to be issued M-16s or to really make you turn white put them where the nuclear weapons are. But if you have PTSD this same Left wants to deny you because they think you are not mentally competent. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 30, 2017 12:57 PM (577OG I totally agree with you about the transgender ban, but I'm not sure that PTSD -sufferers should have access to guns. Too different things.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 08:01 AM (7uYFy)

99 If you didn't watch the Stefan Molyneaux link from earlier, it's worth your time. http://bit.ly/2vVvRqI Posted by: Notsothoreau ----- One of the most important videos I've watched in the past couple of years. Must see!

Posted by: RKae at July 30, 2017 08:01 AM (s5kbe)

100 Picking Tony Mooch to be a direct report WH Comm Director has already been a disaster, and I'm a Yuge Trump fan. The Mooch is lucky that so much happened this week that the Mooch story got buried. Issues over the sale of the Mooch's company is a scandal waiting to happen. And then there's his personal life.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 08:02 AM (pV/54)

101 Is Wagner, who led a non-traditional lifestyle, arguing that only by abandoning traditional rules of morality can we escape society's destruction? If so, that may help to explain Hitler's worship of Wagner. And Hitler's abandonment of traditional morality didn't work out too well for him. --------- Interestingly enough, Paul Watkins, who was a member of the "Manson Family" described this in an early 1970s interview. He first mentioned all the drugs they did - he was quite stoned in the interview natch. "We did Acid, Mescaline, Belladonna, Peyote, Hashish - we never did any hard drugs" He said that Charlie made everyone perform sex acts "everything a guy could do to a guy" and "everything a girl could do to a girl" etc. He made them absolutely with conscience or empathy whatsoever. "Death is Life", and committing suicide at the moment of orgasm was "groovy" and sticking forks in pregnant women was "outtasight" etc. The guy really knew how to brainwash people. There are still a number of adherents, followers, and the rest of it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 08:02 AM (wOZdC)

102 So Iran paid him millions?? Posted by: Grammar Police at July 30, 2017 12:59 PM (OZmbA That's how I read it at first too. I think he meant that Obama didn't give HIM millions like he gave to Iran....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 08:02 AM (7uYFy)

103 But if Obama hadn't given Iran $100m in gold flown in during the dead of night, Boeing might not have gotten that big airplane order.  Wounded warriors are of no interest to a Nobel laureate who uses US Marines as umbrella stands.

Posted by: Born Free at July 30, 2017 08:03 AM (GOCJR)

104 A circus seal maybe. How many beach balls could you juggle? A water park seal maybe with your barking act. A U.S. Navy Seal? Questionable.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 30, 2017 08:03 AM (sf2BM)

105 It's kind of interesting. Trump, with his Executive Orders like this one and others, is taking his foot and creating a huge line in the sand between the left and the right. You vote against him in 2020 and you're voting for the reinstatement of ObamaCare penalties, trans in the military, and increased energy costs. I know I'll stand in line on Election Day -- at 5 am to keep his EO's in effect.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 08:04 AM (EgwCt)

106 "Easy to say. How easy to do?" One EO will do it.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 30, 2017 08:04 AM (sf2BM)

107 Read the man's tweets again and put a homo or a woman in that situation. Because that's what we're still doing. Queers and women out of the combat arms, at a civilized minimum. Then overturn Obergefell, which is blatantly unConstitutional. Sexual dysfunction is not a civil right, and I'm tired of being gaslit.

Posted by: Phil Ossiferz Stone at July 30, 2017 08:05 AM (TlVL7)

108 "Trump hints that he'll put Congresscritters into OCare. Easy to say. How easy to do?" Not sure. The Congresscritters declared each of their offices a "small business" to get out of OCare. This should have been a small scandal at the time. HHS Price may be able to undo all that. If so, it may be easy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 08:05 AM (pV/54)

109 "We did Acid, Mescaline, Belladonna, Peyote, Hashish - we never did any hard drugs" - What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 30, 2017 08:06 AM (Nwg0u)

110 75: in my sons army 'training' they told him 15,500. That seems absurdly high to me, but I think that would be less than .02% of the 1.4 million active duty military.

Posted by: LASue at July 30, 2017 08:06 AM (hZ+us)

111 Giving high powered weapons to people with a near 50% suicide rate make perfect sense. We're in the very best of hands.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 30, 2017 08:06 AM (rhwaS)

112 Great tweetstorm. Here's an interesting article from the Daily Signal written by a guy who used to be transgender but transitioned back (or whatever the proper terminology is) and completely supports Trump's ban on transgenders in the military: http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9egxpjc

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 08:07 AM (UoSKV)

113 logotherapy" Is that like shopping therapy? 'Cause mrs mouse loves raiding the outlet malls...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 30, 2017 08:07 AM (MINbv)

114 Not sure. The Congresscritters declared each of their offices a "small business" to get out of OCare. This should have been a small scandal at the time. HHS Price may be able to undo all that. If so, it may be easy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 01:05 PM (pV/54)



IMO they should be required to use the VA hospital in or nearest their home state.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 08:07 AM (yzxic)

115 MugabeCare for the thieves in Congress. I like it. Start with Tumorhead.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2017 08:07 AM (5VlCp)

116 is there psychological screening for enlistees? there must be some filters, but still they can't predict who is capable of stressful service and who isn't.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 30, 2017 08:07 AM (WTSFk)

117 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Qhbdijv5Y It was a comedy sketch, not an instruction manual!

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2017 08:08 AM (sdi6R)

118 What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 30, 2017 01:06 PM (Nwg0u)



At the very least, something like happened this morning:


https://tinyurl.com/y9cj8447

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 08:08 AM (yzxic)

119 ... which is strange when you think of the years of service and studies that have no doubt gone into the issue.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 30, 2017 08:09 AM (WTSFk)

120 You vote against him in 2020 and you're voting for the reinstatement of ObamaCare penalties, trans in the military, and increased energy costs. I know I'll stand in line on Election Day -- at 5 am to keep his EO's in effect. Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 30, 2017 01:04 PM (EgwCt) That's a very good point, and it will be reinforced by the Left telling it's supporters to vote "to put transgenders" BACK into combat...thus reminding everyone why we need Trump....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 08:09 AM (7uYFy)

121 15,500. That seems absurdly high to me, but I think that would be less than .02% of the 1.4 million active duty military.


Check your math.  It's more like 1%.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 08:09 AM (LAe3v)

122 121 15,500. That seems absurdly high to me, but I think that would be less than .02% of the 1.4 million active duty military.


Check your math. It's more like 1%.
Posted by: pep


And no, I don't believe it.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 08:10 AM (LAe3v)

123 Issues over the sale of the Mooch's company is a scandal waiting to happen. And then there's his personal life.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 01:02 PM (pV/54)

============

Dude turns me off -- reminds me of the Joe Pesci character in Goodfellas.

I understand that he was a Jeb supporter, believes in the myth of global warming, etc.  Sounds like an idiot to me.

Very disappointed by the advisers with whom Trump has surrounded himself -- starting with his daughter and son-in-law.

Posted by: ShainS [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 08:10 AM (ZcAbN)

124 I totally agree with you about the transgender ban, but I'm not sure that PTSD -sufferers should have access to guns. Too different things. Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 01:01 PM (7uYFy) Go back and read again -- it wasn't that Anna was pushing the point or agreeing with it -- she was pointing out the cognitive dissonance of the left. Which caused the lefties brain to shut down in an endless loop.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 08:11 AM (EgwCt)

125 "You vote against him in 2020 and you're voting for the reinstatement of ObamaCare penalties, trans in the military, and increased energy costs. " I have a $10 honor bet with my usually politically savvy BIL. I say that the Rs will keep the House. They'll also gain in the Senate, where Trump will have great influence/

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 08:12 AM (pV/54)

126 110 75: in my sons army 'training' they told him 15,500. That seems absurdly high to me, but I think that would be less than .02% of the 1.4 million active duty military.

Posted by: LASue at July 30, 2017 01:06 PM (hZ+us)


In 10 months since Obama and Carter instituted this illegal program there are fewer than 1000 who are "actually transitioning".  There is your likely number.  Yes, it is illegal.  It is not the right of the President nor the Secretary of Defense to establish enlistment or commissioning guidelines, it is the domain of Congress and they need to write legislation that ends this crap permanently. 

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 30, 2017 08:12 AM (DxWUs)

127 121 15,500. That seems absurdly high to me, but I think that would be less than .02% of the 1.4 million active duty military. Check your math. It's more like 1%. Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 01:09 PM (LAe3v) Which would make them overrepresented in the military compared to the overall population. I find this extremely unlikely.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:13 AM (0mRoj)

128 I have a $10 honor bet with my usually politically savvy BIL. I say that the Rs will keep the House. They'll also gain in the Senate, where Trump will have great influence/ Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 01:12 PM (pV/54) ----------- From your keyboard to God's, er, monitor.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 08:13 AM (UoSKV)

129 122: No math!!!

Posted by: LASue at July 30, 2017 08:14 AM (hZ+us)

130 I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. I'm pretty sure we'd all agree that penis/balls is revolting. Disgusting. The world would be a better place if it could all be annihilated. Testicles can be harvested from a few males and kept alive in tanks that could continue to produce semen. The remaining males can be killed or converted to females.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 30, 2017 08:15 AM (/qEW2)

131 Giving high powered weapons to people with a near 50% suicide rate make perfect sense. We're in the very best of hands. Posted by: Grump928(C) We're in the best of hands. We're in the worst of hands.

Posted by: The Dickens you say at July 30, 2017 08:15 AM (IqV8l)

132 Just gut level, I would bet 500-1000. I don't know where the army came up with 15,500.

Posted by: LASue at July 30, 2017 08:15 AM (hZ+us)

133 https://youtu.be/fMo5jEnL5Ng Here's an early documentary on the Manson debacle. It was definitely a cult, in every sense of the word, and all that it entails. I think it goes a lot deeper than was let on at the time. The chicks are almost scarier to me than Charlie, on account of the fact that the female of the species tends towards a more nurturing personality than guys. I don't believe that to be controversial. Yet, these nice middle class corn fed midwestern girls are racking the slide, talking about how we gotta kill anybody or anything that stands in the way. WTF?? A lot of 'em are out on parole.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 08:16 AM (wOZdC)

134 132 Just gut level, I would bet 500-1000. I don't know where the army came up with 15,500.

Posted by: LASue at July 30, 2017 01:15 PM (hZ+us)


Just a made up number like 10% of the population is homosexual, yet the census never gets above 3%.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 30, 2017 08:17 AM (DxWUs)

135 132 Just gut level, I would bet 500-1000. I don't know where the army came up with 15,500. Posted by: LASue at July 30, 2017 01:15 PM (hZ+us) The same way they came up with $900 hammers?

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2017 08:17 AM (sdi6R)

136 Got into a click bait ( yeah I know) on MASH, in it they said Klinger was originally gay but weakened it out to his cross dressing to get out of the military

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2017 08:17 AM (pPKG5)

137 Just gut level, I would bet 500-1000. I don't know where the army came up with 15,500.

Posted by: LASue at July 30, 2017 01:15 PM (hZ+us)



Anonymous surveys of personnel, in which a large number of junior enlisted personnel will give smartassed responses.  In this case, since it supports a finding that liberal REMFs want, the number is taken as gospel.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 08:17 AM (yzxic)

138 Kristen Fisher on FOX is one beautiful woman. Put her on The Five and I might watch.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 08:18 AM (pV/54)

139 Just gut level, I would bet 500-1000. I don't know where the army came up with 15,500. Posted by: LASue at July 30, 2017 01:15 PM (hZ+us) ------------- I heard something about all this on my (conservative) radio station the other day. I believe the 15K number comes from a transgender advocacy group (surprise!). Other estimates are much lower. I wish I had something I could cite here, but that's all I remember.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 08:18 AM (UoSKV)

140 the fact that the female of the species tends towards a more nurturing personality than guys HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! The female of the species is more deadly than the male. Kipling was on to something.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:18 AM (0mRoj)

141 Why hasn't the Pentagon tapped trannies for special duties including dress-up, drilling, and parades?  They could wear fabulous uniforms and do some of those crazy routines like a murmuration of starlings.

Posted by: Fritz at July 30, 2017 08:19 AM (eLttb)

142 like a murmuration of starlings

You've been dying to use that phrase somewhere, haven't you.  Admit it!

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 08:20 AM (LAe3v)

143 141 Why hasn't the Pentagon tapped trannies for special duties including dress-up, drilling, and parades? They could wear fabulous uniforms and do some of those crazy routines like a murmuration of starlings. Posted by: Fritz at July 30, 2017 01:19 PM (eLttb) We all know where you've been, you military fairy!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:21 AM (0mRoj)

144 Back in the 80's, I had a BAS with a Marine grunt unit. My chief and I would get all the under performers, dummies and fuck ups and keep them in the BAS. We put our best corpsman out with the companies. Had one or two homo's that we kept in the BAS as a public service. Had them do paperwork and keep out of trouble. If I had to deal with a Trans, I don't know what I would have done. He he/she would not have deployed with us I can tell you though, I can tell you that.

Posted by: Charles Martel at July 30, 2017 08:21 AM (6NPe1)

145 "like a murmuration of starlings" that's a fact jack!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 30, 2017 08:21 AM (WTSFk)

146 Well you really cannot say it any better than that. What I would fear is that people who were really weird and creeping out the rest of the base would meet with an unfortunate accident.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 08:22 AM (39g3+)

147 I wonder where that "15,000" number comes from. Sounds suspiciously like "one in five college women are victims of sexual assault" thing. maybe they're including guys in the military who admit they'd wear a man bun if it would help them get laid.

"Hey, soldier, do you like fish sticks..?"

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 08:22 AM (ILitO)

148 Anonymous surveys of personnel, in which a large number of junior enlisted personnel will give smartassed responses.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 01:17 PM (yzxic)

I'm shocked!

18-year-olds not taking seriously a survey on their own sexuality?

Say it ain't so!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 08:23 AM (wYseH)

149 luke skywalker said it was 150,000 which prompted someone else to say it would be several million by the weekend. my step brother and his brothers in arms were supportive of the ban on facebook which caused a gaybe they went to high school with to blow his unstable stack and start threatening to kick their asses. lols and keks ensued.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 30, 2017 08:23 AM (nFwvY)

150 Just gut level, I would bet 500-1000. I don't know where the army came up with 15,500. They didn't. Someone pulled that out of their keister. Army stats are round 4k.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 08:23 AM (39g3+)

151 144 Back in the 80's, I had a BAS with a Marine grunt unit. My chief and I would get all the under performers, dummies and fuck ups and keep them in the BAS. We put our best corpsman out with the companies. Had one or two homo's that we kept in the BAS as a public service. Had them do paperwork and keep out of trouble. If I had to deal with a Trans, I don't know what I would have done. He he/she would not have deployed with us I can tell you though, I can tell you that. Posted by: Charles Martel at July 30, 2017 01:21 PM (6NPe1) What's a BAS?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 08:23 AM (RD7QR)

152 Greetings: 1) Not that I disagree with the overall ban, but the focus on combat soldiers may be susceptible to their limited demographic in the Army overall. 2) I am amused by all the money we spent to acommodate the ladies in our military and now it's going to be all glands on deck.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 30, 2017 08:24 AM (evgyj)

153 I should say 4-5k total overall armed forces. Including Navy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 08:24 AM (39g3+)

154 Aaaaarmy training, Sir!

Posted by: Fritz at July 30, 2017 08:24 AM (eLttb)

155 So here are some interesting tidbits. This all seems perfectly normal to me. Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who met with Donald Jr and Kusher, is an agent of the Kremlin according to William Browder, the guy who testified in front of the Senate last week about Russia and Fusion GPS. One of her clients is Sberbank Capital, a Russian government owned bank that is being badly hurt by the imposition of the Magnitsky Act sanctions. There goal and her goal is the removal of those sanctions. Natalia also worked with Fusion GPS on previous Russian lobbying efforts. John Podesta got 75,000 shares of Sberbank which he failed to disclose a couple years ago. Hillary Clinton came out agains the Magnitsky Act while she was Sec of State and while Bubba was getting huge dollars for a speech he gave in Russia to Renaissance Capital, another Putin front. There is absolutely no way that people as politically connected in DC and with the Russian government as Podesta and Clinton didn't know about the Fusion GPS and Natalia V. scams. In fact, they profited personally from them.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 08:24 AM (/tuJf)

156 What's a BAS?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 01:23 PM (RD7QR)


The Battalion Aid Station or where you went to get your vitamin M (Motrin 800mg) cures everything ever.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 30, 2017 08:25 AM (DxWUs)

157 153 I should say 4-5k total overall armed forces. Including Navy. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 01:24 PM (39g3+) Which accounts for 90-95% of that figure.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:25 AM (0mRoj)

158 two examples of guys breaking under pressure during basic training: the guy who shot himself in "full metal jacket" bill murray in "stripes", who got stronger from the experience. who knows what constitutes the difference/

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 30, 2017 08:25 AM (WTSFk)

159 What's a BAS? Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 01:23 PM (RD7QR) Battlion Aid Station....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2017 08:25 AM (5VlCp)

160 116 is there psychological screening for enlistees? there must be some filters, but still they can't predict who is capable of stressful service and who isn't. -------- There is a pre-enlistment physical, yes. And some informal assessment by recruiters, background investigations etc. And if course, Basic Training, or Boot Camp itself. Lack of sleep, and heavy physical exertion, unfamiliar environment, can be stressful for a lot of people. It's DEFINITELY not for everybody. And active duty life even in peacetime is very stressful at times. Basically, whatever a lefty loosey liberal claims is almost certainly Grade A Bullshit, when it comes to how the military should be run. Even a Draft would smoke out a lot of these folks. I know you'll hear claims that a draft isn't needed/wanted, but then, neither were homosexuals or transexuals and the rest of it. A draft across the board makes everybody have real skin in the game, and people might start to notice again what the hell our military is doing. And just as importantly - not doing. How is it we protect borders in countries we can't even pronounce, yet leave our own borders wide open? The whole thing is insane. Cue the Republicans to trot out admonitions against "isolationism" and "world leader" and "xenophobia" and all the other thought ending cliches.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 08:26 AM (wOZdC)

161 I would put the Tranny Co. In the same battalion as the Muzzy Co. They would be much stronger for the diversity

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2017 08:26 AM (pPKG5)

162 How do you even count them? Do you count people who want to transition but haven't yet, or just the ones in the process or who've completed it? I wouldn't trust any of these numbers.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 08:27 AM (7RvOV)

163 How do you even count them? Do you count people who want to transition but haven't yet, or just the ones in the process or who've completed it? I wouldn't trust any of these numbers. Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 01:27 PM (7RvOV) The numbers reported are all Fubar and way off. I doubt it's 1/10th of the reported figures

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2017 08:29 AM (SjImc)

164 i guess alan alda knew what makes the difference. not the alda of "mash", the alda of "crimes and misdemeanors": if it bends it's funny, if it breaks it's not.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 30, 2017 08:29 AM (WTSFk)

165 Couldn't have said it better myself.. Thanks Warrior for all you do. Semper Fidelis

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at July 30, 2017 08:30 AM (+ldAm)

166 163 How do you even count them? Do you count people who want to transition but haven't yet, or just the ones in the process or who've completed it? I wouldn't trust any of these numbers. Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 01:27 PM (7RvOV) If the dick still hangs out Then they shouldn't count

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:30 AM (0mRoj)

167 The numbers reported are all Fubar and way off. I doubt it's 1/10th of the reported figures

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2017 01:29 PM (SjImc)


Just what I said above, made up out of whole cloth.  Again, find out how many people are actually going through the process of transitioning officially and the number is remarkably small. 

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 30, 2017 08:31 AM (DxWUs)

168 Except for a handful, they are not usually in the forward units, much less than their overrepresented presence in the military. They are cooks, janitors, drivers, they are just not very useful when it comes to being soldiers.

Source?

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 08:32 AM (LAe3v)

169 re 156: was wondering what BAS stood for. thanks for explaining. One does learn lots of things here.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 08:32 AM (ILitO)

170 77,
"Iran took his arm?

Posted by: Incredulous at July 30, 2017 12:45 PM (cOANc)


IED made in Iran or with Iranian-supplied components. There was a very high incident of both in Iraq, which is something our betters in the MSM would rather we not know about."

IED, Improvised Explosive Device, was originally stuff like artillery shells rigged to blowup on command. Iran started supplying "Explosively Formed Projectiles."

http://tinyurl.com/y9pbx9gp  

They were still called IEDs but were not improvised but manufactured expesssly to be hidden and exploded on command to blowup US vehicles.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 30, 2017 08:32 AM (d3wbb)

171 But I think their holy grail is normalizing pedophilia. Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 12:28 PM (aT+Bx) I think that is perhaps the last moral domino to fall, so it's the key to ultimate liberal progress!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 30, 2017 08:33 AM (gwPgz)

172 which physical standards were trannys required to meet, male or female, birth gender or chosen gender?

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 30, 2017 08:33 AM (nFwvY)

173 Take mental health and sexuality out of the equation and you still have this: "Identity." The military, especially ground combat functions, are built on an ethos of putting your identity, your ambitions, your dreams, in a blind trust with no promise of having or wanting them when your service is done. "You" are not a "you." The unit is all that matters. To introduce an individual whose onanistic search for "whatever" is off-limits to scrutiny or correction is lethal -- not just lethal but unfair -- to all those around xer who have signed that sacrificial contract in good faith.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 30, 2017 08:33 AM (Tf/vJ)

174 Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 01:24 PM (/tuJf) Interesting stuff. As I've said repeatedly, the lefts love affair with Russia ended with the Russians response to the Magnitsky Act -- which main 'feature' was the termination of adoptions to American married and gay couples. The Russians named their tit-for-tat legislation after an adopted Russian child who was left 'forgotten' in a car for nine hours by an American. They could have named it after a Russian child procured for sexual abuse by an American gay couple ------- but they PULLED THEIR PUNCHES. Surprising. This whole sordid story is coming out and absolutely f'in guaranteed the Dems are going to come out feces smelling.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 08:33 AM (EgwCt)

175 Source?

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 01:32 PM (LAe3v)

Troll whose IP resolves to Longview TX.

And banned of course.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 08:34 AM (wYseH)

176 And banned of course.

Dang.  I was looking forward to some exercise, kicking him around a bit.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 08:35 AM (LAe3v)

177 Time for my afternoon nap.

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2017 08:35 AM (Sfs6o)

178 169 re 156: was wondering what BAS stood for. thanks for explaining. One does learn lots of things here.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 01:32 PM (ILitO)


Marines and sailors will always have a modicum of Cain and Abel, but Marines know that yelling Doc or Corpsman up will bring that shaggy sailor hauling balls to get to them.  Semper Fi to the Devil Docs.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 30, 2017 08:35 AM (DxWUs)

179 I was looking forward to some exercise, kicking him around a bit.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 01:35 PM (LAe3v)

Too easy.

You wouldn't respect yourself in the morning.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 08:36 AM (wYseH)

180 I wonder how many 'trannies' (to use the term loosely) are women who join the military or law enforcement in order to prove their manliness, and how many guys join because they really want to see if they are men after all.

the whole thing is stupid, most likely the left again trying to find another issue to divide and conquer in order to bring the country down.

thank God Hillary lost or next thing you know the military would be ordered to take in Furries.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 08:36 AM (ILitO)

181 Mental fitness isn't a matter of selecting for so much as it is a disqualification from a given pool of candidates. "Here's 200 recruits, they passed the training so far, and are good joes. Let us know if there's a reason not to undergo training. This Manning nutball, responsible for leaking millions of classified top secret cables and videos, documents - convicted - showed up last week to "protest" at the White House wearing blue lipstick, claiming that transsexuals are "here to stay" in the Army. Wonder what ole Charlie would think of that.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 08:36 AM (wOZdC)

182
Too easy.

You wouldn't respect yourself in the morning.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


You assume I respect myself now.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 08:36 AM (LAe3v)

183 >>This whole sordid story is coming out and absolutely f'in guaranteed the Dems are going to come out feces smelling. If we can ever figure out who paid Fusion GPS to put together that bullshit Russia dossier this whole thing will come apart. It's going to be very interesting watching the Dems in Congress try to prevent any digging on Fusion GPS.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 08:37 AM (/tuJf)

184 179 I was looking forward to some exercise, kicking him around a bit. Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 01:35 PM (LAe3v) Too easy. You wouldn't respect yourself in the morning. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 01:36 PM (wYseH) I thought self-respect was a disqualification around here!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:37 AM (0mRoj)

185 It's going to be very interesting watching the Dems in Congress try to prevent any digging on Fusion GPS. Posted by: JackStraw

I can hear Elijah Cummings jibber-jabbering now.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 08:38 AM (LAe3v)

186 Saw Dunkirk and really liked it. IMAX 2D and supersound is worth it. Wanted to see it opening weekend but shit happened. Some reviews of it are bad bloviating. There are women in it -- nurses and such on the ships -- many of whom die just like the men. And Churchill's big " never surrender" speech is read in at the end -- what did they want, Mike Myers playing Churchill. Michael Caine's streak of "appearances" in Chris Nolan's flicks continues.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 08:38 AM (pV/54)

187 So...pretty much the ONT on some nights.
--------
I HATE YOU!!!
I HATE YOU!!!
I HATE YOU!!!


Posted by: andycanuck at July 30, 2017 08:38 AM (nlbfN)

188
   How many times do you suppose it will be necessary to stand up and  state the obvious--there is NO such thing as transgender?

Posted by: irongrampa at July 30, 2017 08:40 AM (S/hVx)

189 I have a $10 honor bet with my usually politically savvy BIL. I say that the Rs will keep the House. They'll also gain in the Senate, where Trump will have great influence/ Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 01:12 PM (pV/54) washingtonexaminer.com/ gov-greg-abbott-how-george-soros- is-helping-obama-democrats- buy-their-way-back-to-power/article/2630103 He spent 11B USD successfully buying county prosecutors in 2016. This activity must be bottlenecked or prosecuted.

Posted by: gNewt at July 30, 2017 08:40 AM (rSHlY)

190 OT: Kevin Djugashviliamson is whoring for hits again at NRO

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2017 08:40 AM (bzAvr)

191 If the Democrats think they can take Congress by becoming the Black, Hispanic, and Tranny Party, well, good for them. Go on thinking that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2017 08:40 AM (V2Yro)

192 Saw Dunkirk and really liked it.

I plan to see it today.  You'd think that Hollywood would take note of the movie's popularity, and maybe conclude that yet another anti-American screed, or worse, comic book movie, isn't the way to go.  You'd think.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 08:40 AM (LAe3v)

193 IED
made in Iran or with Iranian-supplied components. There was a very high
incident of both in Iraq, which is something our betters in the MSM
would rather we not know about."

IED, Improvised Explosive Device, was originally stuff like artillery shells rigged to blowup on command. Iran started supplying "Explosively Formed Projectiles."

http://tinyurl.com/y9pbx9gp

They were still called IEDs but were not improvised but manufactured expesssly to be hidden and exploded on command to blowup US vehicles.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 30, 2017 01:32 PM (d3wbb)


Yes, the Iranian supplied IED's were horrible, they were precisely machined explosively formed projectiles that blew through the armor of vehicles like a hot knife through butter.  The Iranians (Hezbullah) also provided Passive Infra Red triggers to the Shi'a insurgency too.  Out west in Anbar, they tried the EFP's but did not have the machining capability to make them effectively.  Fortunately for the Sunni insurgencies, Saddam left them millions of pounds of artillery and mortar rounds that they could use instead.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 30, 2017 08:40 AM (DxWUs)

194 apparently the Landwaster is butthurt that Roissy is grabbing more pussy than he is.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2017 08:40 AM (bzAvr)

195 But I think their holy grail is normalizing pedophilia. Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 12:28 PM (aT+Bx) I think that is perhaps the last moral domino to fall, so it's the key to ultimate liberal progress! Posted by: Hrothgar I remember the late Phyllis Schlafly discussing this on CSPAN back in the 1980's. She said that after they normalized gay marriage, the next goal was to normalize pedophilia. And this was in the 1980's, when she discussed this. A lot of people thought she was a paranoid nut case, with regards to normalizing homosexual marriage, back then. Just another right wing nut job. Time marches on, I guess.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... at least I'm not Kurt Eichenwald at July 30, 2017 08:41 AM (S6Pax)

196 140 the fact that the female of the species tends towards a more nurturing personality than guys HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! The female of the species is more deadly than the male. Kipling was on to something. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 01:18 PM (0mRoj) If I read the Kipling poem correctly, he's saying females are more dangerous because their sole mission in life is to protect their children and spouse, by any means necessary. Yes, he was probably right.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 08:41 AM (7RvOV)

197 anyone besides me creeped out by that pic of Manning in the beret and grinning like Alfred E Newman?

this one: http://tinyurl.com/yao2ynkf

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 08:41 AM (ILitO)

198 171 But I think their holy grail is normalizing pedophilia. Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 12:28 PM (aT+Bx) I think that is perhaps the last moral domino to fall, so it's the key to ultimate liberal progress! -------- This was another aspect of the "Manson Family", incest was common, the young children were involved in their orgies by all accounts. Mothers performing oral sex, etc. There is hours of high quality film of the "Family" online from before, during and after the murders. How that transpired is a mystery. Word is lots of cameras were recovered from a major news organization at their hidey holes and ranches, part of some "documentary". Makes sense, I guess.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 08:42 AM (wOZdC)

199 The interesting thing is the quandary the left was in -- they needed to continue to support American abortion, while at the same time the homosexual contingent wanted the respectability of having an infant to raise. The Magnitsky Act and loss of Russian infants for adoption really screwed them and *poof* the Russian boogy-man appeared. Prove me wrong. It's statistically happened in the past. Like lightening. Oops, sorry that's Michael Jackson. I mean lightning.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 08:43 AM (EgwCt)

200 re 196: a great illustration:

http://tinyurl.com/ybdcj4dn

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 08:44 AM (ILitO)

201 It's kind of interesting. Trump, with his Executive Orders like this one and others, is taking his foot and creating a huge line in the sand between the left and the right. Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman ________ It's been said around here for a long time that it doesn't matter how you fight each issue, we're going to lose if we lose the culture war. Trump is fighting this war. I don't know if he's winning it, but fake news is an important enemy target, and Trump is taking it out.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 08:45 AM (zkGZ8)

202 180 thank God Hillary lost or next thing you know the military would be ordered to take in Furries. Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 01:36 PM (ILitO) If they brought their own costumes, it might save on uniforms in cold climates. *ponders camo Furry outfits*

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2017 08:45 AM (sdi6R)

203 Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 01:41 PM (7RvOV) These days women are working overtime to destroy their husbands and children. If that viciousness in service of protecting family was ever present, it's been inverted.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:46 AM (0mRoj)

204 100 Picking Tony Mooch to be a direct report WH Comm Director has already been a disaster, and I'm a Yuge Trump fan. The Mooch is lucky that so much happened this week that the Mooch story got buried. Issues over the sale of the Mooch's company is a scandal waiting to happen. And then there's his personal life. Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 01:02 PM (pV/54) Picking that drunkard Grant for Command, is just a scandal waiting to happen... did you hear he has marital problems?

Posted by: Don Q., Arcanist at July 30, 2017 08:46 AM (NgKpN)

205 202 180 thank God Hillary lost or next thing you know the military would be ordered to take in Furries. Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 01:36 PM (ILitO) If they brought their own costumes, it might save on uniforms in cold climates. *ponders camo Furry outfits* Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2017 01:45 PM (sdi6R) Wait... if they are kinda short... wouldn't they be... EWOKS???

Posted by: Don Q., Arcanist at July 30, 2017 08:47 AM (NgKpN)

206 if they brought their own costumes, it might save on uniforms in cold climates It's a tradeoff. There would also be a rise in improper fraternisation with the bears. Especially among the Marines

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2017 08:48 AM (bzAvr)

207 the life of a tranny is a hard and lonely life

it can be very chaotic, so the structure of military life can be very therapeutic

but like i give a shit


Posted by: happyfeet at July 30, 2017 08:48 AM (mLfQi)

208 If I read the Kipling poem correctly, he's saying females are more dangerous because their sole mission in life is to protect their children and spouse, by any means necessary. Yes, he was probably right. Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 01:41 PM (7RvOV) Protect their children by all means, certainly. I'm not sure about "spouse.' Men are also hard-wired to protect women and children, and if they don't have their own, to protect any women and children within reach if the need arises....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 08:48 AM (7uYFy)

209 Dang. I was looking forward to some exercise, kicking him around a bit. Posted by: pep at July 30, 2017 01:35 PM (LAe3v) -------------- Come over here, and you can take a turn chasing the dog that my kids are watching, except the kids aren't here, and the dog got out when I had to move my daughter's car, and I just spent 10 minutes running after him up and down hills. Got him finally, but dang.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 08:48 AM (UoSKV)

210 So a transgender soldier might come home from combat suffering from PMSTSD??????

Posted by: Patrick Albanese at July 30, 2017 08:49 AM (fVwnj)

211 But I think their holy grail is normalizing pedophilia. As horrible as that is, I wonder what their goal after that will be? Bestiality? Necrophilia? Rape? Because "progressives" never stop.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 08:49 AM (39g3+)

212 He is dead-on correct that a combat unit is endangered and weakened by knowingly assigning personnel who are psychologically impaired (transgender) or require babysitting/overwatch (sorry, ladies). Both are detriments to the mission. Our military exists to protect our nation, not some SJWs feelz.

Posted by: nraendowment at July 30, 2017 08:50 AM (MnDAb)

213 It's been said around here for a long time that it doesn't matter how you fight each issue, we're going to lose if we lose the culture war. Trump is fighting this war. I don't know if he's winning it, but fake news is an important enemy target, and Trump is taking it out. Posted by: FireHorse Die Kulturkampf, ie, the Culture War. I think we've already lost, my friend. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but the toothpaste ain't going back in the tube. Indeed, someday another Democrat will be President, and will reverse (again) Trump's EO's. I certainly have very little interest in living to see the final ruination of my country, but unless I croak off in the next few years, I probably will. Too many people in this country have a kind of death wish, wishing to annihilate their personal existence, their own personal moral values, so that they will be found to be socially acceptable. Living in a moral desert, seemingly alone, while surrounded by the pop culture society where everyone looks like they are having "fun" is a tough road to hoe for a lot of people.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... at least I'm not Kurt Eichenwald at July 30, 2017 08:51 AM (S6Pax)

214 These days women are working overtime to destroy their husbands and children. If that viciousness in service of protecting family was ever present, it's been inverted. ..... Not looking to get into a fight with you, because I respect you, but try using the word "some". I'm not working overtime to destroy my family, and I doubt any of the other ettes here are either. No need to insult us without evidence. "Some" . It's a useful word.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 08:51 AM (7RvOV)

215 It's kind of interesting. Trump, with his Executive Orders like this one and others, is taking his foot and creating a huge line in the sand between the left and the right. I think its more between the left and the rest of humanity. So much of what is called "right wing" now is simply common sense stuff people as recently as ten years ago took for granted. Its only the left's incessant screaming and dominance of popular culture that makes it seem like its right wing to oppose their insanity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 08:52 AM (39g3+)

216 178 169 re 156: was wondering what BAS stood for. thanks for explaining. One does learn lots of things here. Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 01:32 PM (ILitO) Marines and sailors will always have a modicum of Cain and Abel, but Marines know that yelling Doc or Corpsman up will bring that shaggy sailor hauling balls to get to them. Semper Fi to the Devil Docs. Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 30, 2017 01:35 PM (DxWUs) --- This x1000. Love our Devil Docs.. We may give them shit from time to time but truth is that we always make sure "Doc" is well taken care of b/c he will always have our backs.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at July 30, 2017 08:53 AM (+ldAm)

217 >Houston >Parents say, hey, could you come over and watch the dog for the weekend >Hot morning >Figure I'll load the dog in the car and drive to the dog park >Doggie slips away >Grab collar >Doggie squirms out of the collar >Dog runs down the street >Visions of parents stringing me up outside their house as a message to others ... I did eventually manage to retrieve the dog. But she didn't go to the dog park that weekend. And definitely no doggie treats.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2017 08:53 AM (bzAvr)

218 and I just spent 10 minutes running after him up and down hills. Got him finally, but dang. Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 01:48 PM (UoSKV) Never run after a dog. They'll think it's a game. I've watched it over and over. They think it's a game. Better to get their attention by calling their name and then running away from them. Then they'll chase you. Same game.

Posted by: Liberal Economist at July 30, 2017 08:54 AM (z79tQ)

219 Every time I see Mooch I keep thinking that you're all talking about Michelle Obama instead of Scaramucci. .

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 30, 2017 08:55 AM (+dsLj)

220 What liberal-economist said.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2017 08:55 AM (bzAvr)

221 I think its more between the left and the rest of humanity. So much of what is called "right wing" now is simply common sense stuff people as recently as ten years ago took for granted. Its only the left's incessant screaming and dominance of popular culture that makes it seem like its right wing to oppose their insanity. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 01:52 PM (39g3+) True, but because they control education as well as pop culture, they advance the ball a few more yards every year. Young people are all in on SJW and the ones that are not fully on board, shrug their shoulders. Whatever...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 08:55 AM (7uYFy)

222 Yeah I don't get the "mooch" nickname, that sounds like something his enemies would taunt him with. moochelle, Moocher, Moochies. Gotta be a New York thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 08:56 AM (39g3+)

223 Protect their children by all means, certainly. I'm not sure about "spouse.' Men are also hard-wired to protect women and children, and if they don't have their own, to protect any women and children within reach if the need arises.... Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 01:48 PM (7uYFy) Except the studies show women are more likely to murder their own children than men, especially when the kids are still very young

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:56 AM (0mRoj)

224 These days women are working overtime to destroy their husbands and children. If that viciousness in service of protecting family was ever present, it's been inverted. ..... Just talking to some friends last night about a sudden trend in women we're acquainted with who abandoned their husbands and children in order to "go out and LIVE!" Very sudden. Very disturbing.

Posted by: RKae at July 30, 2017 08:56 AM (s5kbe)

225 Better to get their attention by calling their name and then running away from them. Then they'll chase you. Same game. Posted by: Liberal Economist at July 30, 2017 01:54 PM (z79tQ) ------------ Oh, yes, I know, and I tried that. But this is an old dog and he can't hear. But he can hustle, dang him.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 08:57 AM (UoSKV)

226 I think its more between the left and the rest of humanity. So much of what is called "right wing" now is simply common sense stuff people as recently as ten years ago took for granted. Its only the left's incessant screaming and dominance of popular culture that makes it seem like its right wing to oppose their insanity. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 01:52 PM (39g3+) We're actually lucky when they call it 'right wing'. They've discovered new adjectives like 'alt-right' and beyond, because the last boogy-man has lost value. 'Vast right-wing conspiracy' is so 90's man. Common sense and logic puts you squarely in the 'worse than Hitler' camp with these mouth breathers.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 08:57 AM (EgwCt)

227 True, but because they control education as well as pop culture, they advance the ball a few more yards every year. And as long as parents keep surrendering their kids to this system, the left keeps winning. Parents who cannot imagine paying to have their kid go to a private school save up to send their kids to a college where they are ruined. It just makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 08:58 AM (39g3+)

228 Um, Insomniac... although I don't want to white knight here, if you are advised your brush is too wide, it's time to stop painting. Yourself. Into a corner.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2017 08:58 AM (bzAvr)

229 I remember the late Phyllis Schlafly discussing this on CSPAN back in the 1980's. She said that after they normalized gay marriage, the next goal was to normalize pedophilia. And this was in the 1980's, when she discussed this. Posted by: Bossy Conservative ________ I remember what an openly gay guy said to me in college: He will marry another man, and they will have a child. They will both be biological parents. This will be done by creating a zygote from two sperm. Continuing (and with my apologies to LASue @ 129) he said the chances were 2-to-1 that their child would be a son. The possible chromosome configurations would be XX (girl), XY (boy) and YX (boy). Quoting from memory here: "The other possibility, which is 1 in 4, is a YY chromosome monster which of course would have to be aborted." He said it all with the matter-of-fact tone one usually uses for an unremarkable weather report. For at least one homosexual person, this has been the plan (or at least part of the plan) all along. This was 1984, give or take a year.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 08:58 AM (zkGZ8)

230 Just talking to some friends last night about a sudden trend in women we're acquainted with who abandoned their husbands and children in order to "go out and LIVE!" That started in the 70s, kind of died out a bit in the 80s and has come back in style now that men are the most hated beings on earth. They used to call it "find yourself" whatever the hell that means. Now its more honest.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 08:59 AM (39g3+)

231 Protect their children by all means, certainly. I'm not sure about "spouse.' Men are also hard-wired to protect women and children, and if they don't have their own, to protect any women and children within reach if the need arises.... Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 01:48 PM (7uYFy) Agree with the last part, but as for the first sentence I've seen wives who refused to forgive people for slights to their husbands long after the husband had laughed it off. My dad even observed the same thing about his female employees. After he'd blown off some fight with a competing company's guy, his loyal staff just wouldn't let it go. He was grateful, but also wished they would chill out for a change.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 08:59 AM (7RvOV)

232 228 Um, Insomniac... although I don't want to white knight here, if you are advised your brush is too wide, it's time to stop painting. Yourself. Into a corner. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2017 01:58 PM (bzAvr) *shrugs* If the general state of the culture is upsetting to people that are the exception, their beef shouldn't be with me.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 08:59 AM (0mRoj)

233 The Mooch started strong last week and I wanted to like him. Then he went unhinged. He had a son earlier this week by the wife who served divorce papers on him later this week. Which may explain his rant to The New Yorker mid-week. Don't tell me this was planned. He embarrassed himself and Trump. The Mooch's bigger issue is that a Chinese outfit with mysterious government connections, which Big US Banks won't deal with, wants to overpay for his business. The Mooch still needs the same kind of approval that Hillary got for that uranium sale -- which is why the Mooch hasn't officially joined the WH yet. And he wants favorable tax treatment that he's no longer entitled to. This is a scandal waiting to happen, and the Mooch didn't do himself (or Trump) by making himself so hot so early. I have a hard-on for this self-fellater because I'm a Bannon guy -- the Mooch is with Ivanka.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 09:00 AM (pV/54)

234 #221 why did conservatives abandon teaching as a profession Why ?

Posted by: Jared at July 30, 2017 09:00 AM (ziMCN)

235 re 219: thinking the same thing since I first saw Scaramucci referred to as Mooch. Maybe we should call him Tony Mooch, as opposed to Tone Deaf Mooch.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 30, 2017 09:00 AM (ILitO)

236 211 But I think their holy grail is normalizing pedophilia. As horrible as that is, I wonder what their goal after that will be? Bestiality? Necrophilia? Rape? Because "progressives" never stop. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 01:49 PM (39g3+) Their goal, in my view, isn't so much the normalizing of perversion, but the de-normalizing of humanity. It's not that pedophilia, or bestiality, or any other sexual abnormality is their "goal", per se, but that the further they can drive the culture in that direction, the easier it is to convince the masses at large to be OK with absolutely sub-human, evil things. Like socialized medicine. Like civil-asset forfeiture. Like rounding up all those deplorables one glorious day and shoving them into bio-electric fluid vats to use as a power source. You know, that kinda thing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2017 09:00 AM (hcyUh)

237 For at least one homosexual person, this has been the plan (or at least part of the plan) all along. This was 1984, give or take a year.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 01:58 PM (zkGZ


I am sure the "homosexual" contingent of the leftist wing will see a remarkable shift in support for abortion once a "gay gene" is discovered.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 30, 2017 09:01 AM (DxWUs)

238 I'm just gonna put this picture of Chuck Schumer Ernest in his clever disguise. http://heyvernitsernest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Jail-Aunti-Nelda.jpg

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 30, 2017 09:01 AM (rnAwa)

239 Most of the lefts "success" is not a matter of permanence. It seems like it, and this part of the momentum, and part if the scam - "right side of history" and all. They are also absolute professionals at making the majority, the normal, good people - believe that they are the minority, while at the same time providing the illusion that a tiny minority of crackpots are the majority and "thought leaders" and wave of the future. Now you know what all those "think tanks" have been doing, the institutes for social research, etc etc. But humans can be molded and turn on a dime - whether for good or for evil. THAT is why they are entering their totalitarian phase, to try and hold the "gains" they've made, to crush any dissent, and to criminalize even a discussion of alternative viewpoints. They know damn well their support is miles wide but only nanometers thick. Bradley turned Chelsea can easily be lead into burning their house down. After all, they created this monster - they know better than most how easy it is, and how fragile the society is.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2017 09:01 AM (wOZdC)

240 There was a drag queen show on my AFB last month. I have no idea how well it was attended. I fear the next one will be during a mandatory wing commander's call. Also, got an air force wide email from the AF Chief of Staff stating there would be no change in transgender implementation until more guidance than PDT's tweet was received...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at July 30, 2017 09:02 AM (4DCSq)

241 234 #221 why did conservatives abandon teaching as a profession Why ? Posted by: Jared at July 30, 2017 02:00 PM (ziMCN) It's a good question. I think it may be due in part to the Frankfurt gang gradually taking over and making it such a hostile environment for right-thinking people they opt out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:02 AM (0mRoj)

242 218 Better to get their attention by calling their name and then running away from them. Then they'll chase you. Same game. Posted by: Liberal Economist at July 30, 2017 01:54 PM (z79tQ) Yeah. Especially if they're running around in the street. Get *away* from the street and call them. Don't ask me how I know this.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2017 09:02 AM (sdi6R)

243 Back under the stairs, Dunderkind.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 30, 2017 09:03 AM (rhwaS)

244 why did conservatives abandon teaching as a profession I think working with kids and education tends to attract leftists more (shaping minds, a sense of power, changing the world, etc its all fantasies of power and such) and its not easy to make it through the required college degrees with your conservatism intact, for young people at least. And of course, unions and other organizations are not kind to conservatives. I think conservatives should focus on administration in schools instead of teaching. In that position you can shape curriculum, hiring, firing, etc. Its work that will attract conservatives more with a sense of work, logic, order, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 09:03 AM (39g3+)

245 Agree with the last part, but as for the first sentence I've seen wives who refused to forgive people for slights to their husbands long after the husband had laughed it off. My dad even observed the same thing about his female employees. After he'd blown off some fight with a competing company's guy, his loyal staff just wouldn't let it go. He was grateful, but also wished they would chill out for a change. Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 01:59 PM (7RvOV) This is true and it's the real reason why groups of male friends "break-up" when they get married--or even start going "steady" with girls. the boys can josh and joke with each other and call each other names and make remarks about dick-size or whatever, but the girls don't laugh along and before you know it..... On the other hand, I've seen these same girls take these same guys ( their husbands or boyfriends) and break their balls viciously and wear them down to a nub within a few years--all the while cheating on them.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 09:05 AM (7uYFy)

246 why did conservatives abandon teaching as a profession Why ? No, the question is why people send their kids to the liberal hell holes? Homeschool, online school, private school. There are options, most just don't prioritize it.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 09:05 AM (GiRFl)

247 Their goal, in my view, isn't so much the normalizing of perversion, but the de-normalizing of humanity. Well people talk about useful idiots for Communism, but I think Satan finds them useful as well. People who will advocate and do things they might consider terrible in another context but can be easily tempted and manipulated with songs of "for the children" and "to help the oppressed" and most of all a rousing chorus of "get them back for how they gave you bad feels" Satan doesn't need to fight to keep lost souls. But that's not his primary goal. He's not interested in harvesting souls, he's focused on hating God and fighting against Him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 09:06 AM (39g3+)

248 The other day somebody called into my local radio station to say that his son is ineligible for military service because he has a peanut allergy. With the peanut allergy he can't be stationed anywhere in the world because he might have a medical emergency should he accidentally be exposed to peanuts. I think far too many people have no idea how the military really works and think it's just another job. It isn't.

Posted by: biancaneve at July 30, 2017 09:08 AM (A/iod)

249 On the other hand, I've seen these same girls take these same guys ( their husbands or boyfriends) and break their balls viciously and wear them down to a nub within a few years--all the while cheating on them. Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 02:05 PM (7uYFy) I've observed this to be the norm, at least anecdotally. I used to say that it was because Women are evil. Then I realized that it's because People are evil., and "Women" just happen to be one of the larger sub-sets of "People".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2017 09:08 AM (hcyUh)

250 I think working with kids and education tends to attract leftists more (shaping minds, a sense of power, changing the world, etc its all fantasies of power and such) and its not easy to make it through the required college degrees with your conservatism intact, for young people at least. And of course, unions and other organizations are not kind to conservatives. Also, I think a "conservative" wants to actually "teach" actual history or math --not the pedagogy" bullshit that the lefty espouses in order to get their "education" degree. There are experts in science and history and literature who can't teach because of that bullshit...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 09:09 AM (7uYFy)

251 PDT's edicts will not stand.

Posted by: Cock Curious GOP at July 30, 2017 09:11 AM (mcI77)

252 I used to say that it was because Women are evil. Then I realized that it's because People are evil. Yep. Its just a question of how that original sin is expressed, not if. Men will tend to destroy your body, but women will grind down your soul. The first is illegal and condemned by society. The second is winked at and even celebrated.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 09:11 AM (39g3+)

253 251 PDT's edicts will not stand. Posted by: Cock Curious GOP at July 30, 2017 02:11 PM (mcI77) Yeah, well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2017 09:12 AM (hcyUh)

254 90 Here we go. Fell off the chair at this one: https://twitter.com/jrsalzman/status/890269710192852992 Posted by: Mama AJ at July 30, 2017 12:58 PM (wwL6Q) Too bad I couldn't blow that twitter pic up more in my phone. Other than needing some 501s, looks pretty tasty.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 30, 2017 09:13 AM (YhV5r)

255 Scaramucci is new to me. I have read that he has been thick with President Trump for a long time. Out of respect to him and President Trump I will differ name calling until his actions warrant it. As for as the rant goes, I loved it. I want the video.

Posted by: Just Sayin at July 30, 2017 09:14 AM (rSHlY)

256 "Some" . It's a useful word. Posted by: stace ________ After reading other posts on other topics by quite a few commenters, I think it's OK to mentally insert that word wherever needed. (In some posts, of course.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 09:14 AM (zkGZ8)

257 The really frustrating thing for single guys is that we know there are good women out there. We see them. We know them. We are around them. They're all married to other people. Good women almost always get grabbed early and if you missed out on the sweetheart who will be loyal, respectful, and good while being the kind that will help shape you into a better man, walk with you into righteousness, and share her wisdom.... you just struck out. And there's no more at bats. It seems like all you find are the damaged goods, the harpies, the serpents, the bitches, and the women who seem wonderful then pull out the long knives. There are still good women out there, of course. They're just super hard to find because they've gone through a gauntlet of abusive cheating liars and needy wretched wimps. So they're very shy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 09:15 AM (39g3+)

258 "18 I'm sure someone else has made this observation: Your average Progressive would decry someone with suicidal thoughts because of manner of dysphoria obtaining a firearm, even a .22 caliber pistol. Yet, involve national defense and suddenly granting access to the most sophisticated military weaponry is a national priority. Posted by: RS at July 30, 2017 12:26 PM (CNQqJ)" Why, it's almost as if they secretly know dysphoria is a mental illness and don't so much care about fake "rights" as they do about destroying the US military.

Posted by: Saber Alter, rising from the dead at July 30, 2017 09:16 AM (YZ7Go)

259 why did conservatives abandon teaching as a profession Why ? Posted by: Jared at July 30, 2017 02:00 PM (ziMCN) Something about 'those who can... do... while those who can't - teach'. It became 'a thing' when the economy was going gangbusters. Those 'who could' made a ton of money. The left snuck into those low-paying teaching positions and took over. At the end of my career I did somewhere around a half a decade in private school teaching, but was completely outnumbered and unprepared. Walked away with a left-wing whispering campaign all over my ass which ultimately tore the school apart and it failed as the core of conservative parents refused to believe the left and kept their kids and dollar$ away. When these people on the left play for control, they are playing for keeps.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 09:17 AM (EgwCt)

260 That started in the 70s, kind of died out a bit in the 80s and has come back in style now that men are the most hated beings on earth. They used to call it "find yourself" whatever the hell that means. Now its more honest. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 01:59 PM (39g3+) Yup....can't count how many strippers I used to know who left their old man and kids to find themselves on the stripper pole. Make it rain baby!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2017 09:17 AM (5VlCp)

261 I've heard it said that all women are crazy, you just have to find the one that is your kinda crazy.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 09:17 AM (GiRFl)

262 Great trivia about Dunkirk. The old guy featured in the flick with his own boat, crewed by his son and another boy, is based on Charles Lightoller, the most senior officer who survived Titanic. He was in charge of loading lifeboats and was going to go down with the ship, but managed to hold onto wreckage until rescued (because there wasn't some bitch hogging it!). The reference to how he knew some much about fighter planes is true too.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 09:18 AM (pV/54)

263 If the general state of the culture is upsetting to people that are the exception, their beef shouldn't be with me. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 01:59 PM (0mRoj) I am a truly blessed person and I count those blessings everyday. I don't personally know any women like the ones you describe. In my immediate family and all of my inlaws families, everyone in my generation and our parents' generation has been married once, and have been married for decades. All of the kids are growing up as good people. The men don't hate all the women, and vice versa . Maybe, just maybe we are onto something with these healthy relationships. Now on the other hand, I've been assaulted a couple of times and followed once by men who were strangers, but I never say that ALL men are sexually violent. "SOME" is a healthy, resilient way of thinking.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 09:18 AM (7RvOV)

264 I've heard it said that all women are crazy, you just have to find the one that is your kinda crazy. You gotta find the one that compliments your kinda crazy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 09:18 AM (39g3+)

265 Simply awesome. And awesomely simple.

Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 09:19 AM (eP+dt)

266 Now on the other hand, I've been assaulted a couple of times and followed once by men who were strangers If you were to point these fellows out to me perhaps I might be able to engage in some small deed of honor with a baseball bat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 09:19 AM (39g3+)

267 Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 02:18 PM (7RvOV) You're looking at this personally. I'm looking at it societally.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:20 AM (0mRoj)

268 OT: Over at Gateway Pundit, there's a story about Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer; he says Awan is Muslim Brotherhood.

If true... I nailed it a few days ago.

/why am I not on the gubbermint payroll, making six figures? Oh wait. I'm an honest American. Hiring priority is for the mentally ill and foreigners, specifically from the Middle East.

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 09:21 AM (aT+Bx)

269 They said the dame things when the military was desegregated We gave an all volunteer force dont want to serve with some humans you don't like ? Don't join up Did they really expect a FOB with 8 men to send out patrols every day ?

Posted by: Jared at July 30, 2017 09:22 AM (ziMCN)

270 268 OT: Over at Gateway Pundit, there's a story about Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer; he says Awan is Muslim Brotherhood. If true... I nailed it a few days ago. /why am I not on the gubbermint payroll, making six figures? Oh wait. I'm an honest American. Hiring priority is for the mentally ill and foreigners, specifically from the Middle East. Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 02:21 PM (aT+Bx) All ya gotta do is sell your soul. I mean, it's not like you're using it anyway, right?

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:23 AM (0mRoj)

271 You're looking at this personally. I'm looking at it societally. Posted by: Insomniac No you're not. You're refusing the simple accommodation of "some" to be polite to the 'Ettes and other innocent distaff and being bitter as always about your marriage.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 30, 2017 09:23 AM (gIRsn)

272 Now on the other hand, I've been assaulted a couple of times and followed once by men who were strangers If you were to point these fellows out to me perhaps I might be able to engage in some small deed of honor with a baseball bat. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 02:19 PM (39g3+) *Passes CRT a 54-ounce hickory bat*

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 09:23 AM (EgwCt)

273 Something about 'those who can... do... while those who can't - teach'. It became 'a thing' when the economy was going gangbusters. Those 'who could' made a ton of money. The left snuck into those low-paying teaching positions and took over. At the end of my career I did somewhere around a half a decade in private school teaching, but was completely outnumbered and unprepared. Walked away with a left-wing whispering campaign all over my ass which ultimately tore the school apart and it failed as the core of conservative parents refused to believe the left and kept their kids and dollar$ away. When these people on the left play for control, they are playing for keeps. Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 30, 2017 02:17 PM (EgwCt) Know what you mean, but I'm not buying it. For one thing, the choice for most people isn't simply between taking a "low wage" teaching job and earning a shit load of money. Not everyone who doesn't teach is raking in the big bucks, and in case you haven't heard, teaching these days is not a "low-wage' job. Not in this economy. Teachers are doing very well, and if they aren't exactly pulling down Wall Street money, they have summers off, retire early and have great pensions and benefits. And most of them seem to be married to other teachers--or cops, firemen and other public service employees whose wages have shot up out of all proportion to reality. And all these salaries and pensions are what's making the taxes sky high. Of course, I'm in NJ so mileage may vary..

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 09:24 AM (7uYFy)

274 "Over at Gateway Pundit, there's a story about Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer; he says Awan is Muslim Brotherhood." I can't see how Sessions doesn't have a silo-ed DOJ/FBI team all over this. It's not in Muellers' mandate. Is it because Session's hamstrung by dis-loyalists?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 09:25 AM (pV/54)

275 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 30, 2017 02:23 PM (gIRsn) Get bent. I've done no such thing. Further, don't presume to speak for me or patronize me.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:25 AM (0mRoj)

276 200 re 196: a great illustration:
http://tinyurl.com/ybdcj4dn


It was drawn post-9/11 by an art student who even sold it on t-shirts. She indignantly withdrew it when she learned that people were using the drawing for "warmongering". I'm not sure then what she thought her angry Statue of Liberty carrying a revolver was supposed to mean--but of course art students are often very confused.

Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 09:26 AM (HzHFO)

277 *Passes CRT a 54-ounce hickory bat*

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 30, 2017 02:23 PM (EgwCt)



There's nothing like a nice piece of hickory.


https://youtu.be/wiPK3Ij6QMQ

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 09:26 AM (yzxic)

278 Teachers are doing very well, and if they aren't exactly pulling down Wall Street money, they have summers off, retire early and have great pensions and benefits. All good points. You can add to that list that tenure makes them all but unfireable, regardless of performance.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 09:27 AM (GiRFl)

279 The big kahuna in all of this was the quiet insistent push by the left to have "reassignment" surgery made into a free service-connected benefit.

Those surgeries are ridiculously expensive. And the person thus "transitioning" is in a condition for quite a while where they would simply not be deployable or combat-effective. A double whammy to military funding and readiness.

But wait! There's more! Now how much would you pay!

Imagine ordinary civilian puke Snuffy wants to be Sybil instead. Can't afford the choppadickoffame procedure. Snuffy signs up at the recruiting station and becomes PFC Snuffy. Then declares he's "transitioning" and gets his "free" reassignment surgery.

Then imagine that PFC Sybil isn't happy with the outcome. As so many trannies are not. The hard reality doesn't match the glossy fantasy. "She" can't pass. Becomes depressed and suicidal. Can't perform duties in the service. Can't hold down a job on civvy street either.

Well, as a former VA benefits counselor helpfully pointed out to me, guess what? That psychiatric debilitation is in and of itself a "service-connected disability" because it was incurred while Snuffy/Sybil was on duty in the ranks. So we then get to pay decades of disability benefit to such individuals even if they never were anywhere near any strenuous service or actual combat.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 30, 2017 09:28 AM (ujwCG)

280 A question: In the preceding comment #276 I used the italics control to italicize the quoted text, but it is not displaying that way. In an earlier comment I used i and /i, also without success. What did I do wrong?

Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 09:28 AM (HzHFO)

281 Teachers do earn pretty good money especially for the amount of time off they get, and yeah tenure is extremely valuable. Plus, once you have your lesson plan set, its mostly just running down the same list again each class.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 09:29 AM (39g3+)

282 280 A question: In the preceding comment #276 I used the italics control to italicize the quoted text, but it is not displaying that way. In an earlier comment I used i and /i, also without success. What did I do wrong? Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 02:28 PM (HzHFO) The i and /i have to be inside closed brackets.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:29 AM (0mRoj)

283 What did I do wrong?

Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 02:28 PM (HzHFO)

Do you want a list?

Italics = [ i] text [ /i] (take out the space).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 09:30 AM (wYseH)

284 Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 02:24 PM (7uYFy) All good points and true. But the exodus of conservative thought from schools probably coincided with a really great economy. As the economy turned the corner around Y2K, and manufacturing in this country took a nosedive the leftists scrambled into the suddenly lucrative teaching and 'public service' positions.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 09:33 AM (EgwCt)

285 There's nothing like a nice piece of hickory. https://youtu.be/wiPK3Ij6QMQ Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 02:26 PM (yzxic) Oh, yeah, that's good. Thanks.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 09:34 AM (EgwCt)

286 Of course, I'm in NJ so mileage may vary..

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 02:24 PM (7uYFy)



It's everywhere.  Here where I live in Georgia, average teacher salary is $51,000 before bonuses and benefits.  Also, 36 of 50 schools in the district are considered to be failing under state criteria.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 09:34 AM (yzxic)

287 "Better to get their attention by calling their name and then running away from them. Then they'll chase you. Same game." You can also just fall down on the ground like you passed out and the dog will come over to check you out. Make sure the dog sees you fall though otherwise you might have to lay there for a while.

Posted by: freaked at July 30, 2017 09:36 AM (BO/km)

288 284 Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 02:24 PM (7uYFy) All good points and true. But the exodus of conservative thought from schools probably coincided with a really great economy. As the economy turned the corner around Y2K, and manufacturing in this country took a nosedive the leftists scrambled into the suddenly lucrative teaching and 'public service' positions. Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 30, 2017 02:33 PM (EgwCt) I wonder if there have been any studies on this. I also wonder if education became a toxic morass of leftism because the conservatives avoided or left it, or whether it's the other way around. My guess is the other way around, looking at the way Dewey, Marcuse, Gramsci and their followers down the line coopted education. I could be wrong.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:36 AM (0mRoj)

289 The median teacher salary for an individual is higher than the median household income for the United States. The concept that they are "low paid" only proliferates because they teachers unions have a full blown ad campaign to push that meme. A two teacher household would rank in the top 25% of all American households.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 09:37 AM (GiRFl)

290 If you were to point these fellows out to me perhaps I might be able to engage in some small deed of honor with a baseball bat. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 02:19 PM (39g3+) *Passes CRT a 54-ounce hickory bat* Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 30, 2017 02:23 PM (EgwCt) Y'all are the best. Thanks, but I have no way to find them. Hopefully they're dead after all these years. I did decide to be polite, professional and have a plan to kill everyone I meet. My dear husband is more trusting than I am because he's never had a bad experience, so I'm the one with the guns, knives and flashlights.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 09:37 AM (7RvOV)

291
Under the what's the point if you can't do your job dept:  the libs EXPECT that these people will be exempt from combat duty anyway.

This is about the cultural war, not real war.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 30, 2017 09:38 AM (r+sAi)

292 Sorry to be unclear: I did enclose the i and /i in angle brackets, like <i>this</i>

Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 09:38 AM (HzHFO)

293 I have an acquaintance who is a teacher, I have listened to her complain incessantly about salaries. I finally checked. Including benefits, I figure she is receiving ~$90K/yr. Then...there are the retirement benefits.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 09:38 AM (OdK9v)

294 289 The median teacher salary for an individual is higher than the median household income for the United States. The concept that they are "low paid" only proliferates because they teachers unions have a full blown ad campaign to push that meme. A two teacher household would rank in the top 25% of all American households. Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 02:37 PM (GiRFl) That depends greatly on a) where you are and b) whether you teach in public or private school.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:39 AM (0mRoj)

295 Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 02:38 PM (HzHFO)

Angle brackets don't work.  Only these [  ]   work.

Yes...this is a weird place.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 09:39 AM (wYseH)

296 Sorry to be unclear: I did enclose the i and /i in angle brackets, like <i>this</i>

Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 02:38 PM (HzHFO)



Use "[" and "]".

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 09:39 AM (yzxic)

297 Enclose italics with these [ ] not these < >.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 09:39 AM (GiRFl)

298 292 Sorry to be unclear: I did enclose the i and /i in angle brackets, like this Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 02:38 PM (HzHFO) Wrong brackets. You have to use square brackets: [ ]

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:40 AM (0mRoj)

299 293 I have an acquaintance who is a teacher, I have listened to her complain incessantly about salaries. I finally checked. Including benefits, I figure she is receiving ~$90K/yr. Then...there are the retirement benefits. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 02:38 PM (OdK9v Would that be 90k per year or 90k per 9 months?

Posted by: buzzion at July 30, 2017 09:40 AM (cAnNx)

300 >>OT: Over at Gateway Pundit, there's a story about Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer; he says Awan is Muslim Brotherhood. >>If true... I nailed it a few days ago. Not to burst your bubble but his ties to the Iraqi who has ties to Hezbollah and the MB has been know since February when the Daily Caller first reported on it. Meanwhile, I'm finding some additional interesting links between Fusion GPS and Hillary backers and John F'n McCain.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 09:41 AM (/tuJf)

301 Enclose italics with these [ ] not these . Posted by: Malcolm Tent ------- This is some kind of Zen thing, isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 09:41 AM (OdK9v)

302 When my wife and I married she was a schoolteacher. We recently went on a 'inflation adjustment calculator' website and punched in our salaries for that year. I made nearly $100k (in todays dollars) in manufacturing while she made $11k (in todays dollars) teaching. Any wonder why the left was dead-set on killing American manufacturing?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 09:42 AM (EgwCt)

303 guns, knives and flashlights. Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 02:37 PM (7RvOV) These are also a few of my favorite things.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:43 AM (0mRoj)

304 Would that be 90k per year or 90k per 9 months?

Posted by: buzzion at July 30, 2017 02:40 PM (cAnNx)

I have no patience for teachers. In my town they are obscenely overpaid, and for the most part are arrogant, poorly educated asses.

The pretense that they are working in some rarefied intellectual pursuit is offensive.

There are websites that do as good a job as most American teachers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 09:43 AM (wYseH)

305 "Here where I live in Georgia, average teacher salary is $51,000 before bonuses and benefits."

The big benefit in becoming an educrat where I live is having an iron-rice-bowl job all the way through a cushy retirement.

Dismissal for cause essentially does not exist, even for utterly incompetent teachers who demonstrably cannot do the jobs for which they were hired.

However, the one thing which does cause teachers to get fired here in Commiefornia is when districts downsize due to a lack of pupils.

That is one BIG-ASS reason why the education-industrial complex lined itself up behind the open borders movement. As long as youths are here in this country, illegally or not, the black-robed radicals have ruled that they must be educated at public expense.

The teachers need as many young warm bodies as possible to keep their racket rolling along. And they'll perforce happily endorse the fiction that a Guatemalan gang member who's obviously in his late 20s or early 30s is actually eleven.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 30, 2017 09:43 AM (ujwCG)

306 I'm not sure then what she thought her angry Statue of Liberty carrying a revolver was supposed to mean--but of course art students are often very confused. Posted by: pst314 ________ That's when I start filling in the gaps with my imagination. The Statue of Liberty is 110 years older than the USA -- so the baby is not hers. Whose is it, then? And why does she have a gun? The gun is easy. Lady Liberty lives on the rough side of town -- New Jersey, on the Hudson -- so she packs for protection. She's also drawn to look like a high school girl, so she was probably at her prom. As to whose baby it is -- I don't know, and neither does Liberty. She found the baby in a trash can. Someone at the prom had this baby, swaddled it in a flag, and abandoned it out back. Probably that psycho bitch Columbia. Before Lady Liberty became an icon, Columbia was a common personification of America. But she snapped. Refer to the main topic of this post. ; in Columbia's case, it was the Civil War. Some females, even of the quasi-mythological variety, are evil, and some are crazy. Columbia is certifiable, and unpredictable. So Liberty asks herself, Who knows what she'll do? So Liberty carries. As for Columbia, no one knows what happened to her. She was leading settlers out West about 140 years ago. It's ben rumored that she's been stirring trouble in East Saint Louis, Illinois. Some people said she's the one who started the race riots in Newark. I don't know. I wish her well, but for now you can count me on Team Liberty.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 09:43 AM (zkGZ8)

307 Would that be 90k per year or 90k per 9 months? Posted by: buzzion ------------- Year. I point out that she has many years of service. Her direct salary runs over $60K/yr.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 09:43 AM (OdK9v)

308 This is some kind of Zen thing, isn't it? Ha! I just noticed that!

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 09:44 AM (GiRFl)

309 Since when does the miliary pay for elective surgery? Or is Dr. Liberal's pyschiatric diagnosis now firm and must be honored by the government?

That being said, if I'm of age and want an elective surgery, can Dr. Liberal write an order for my liposuction, tummy tuck, face lift and breast or penis augmentation? Beucase if I don't get the above procedures done, I'll be unstble and kill myself.

And after I get the procedures done, I'll be unhappy and need to be conspensated by the government for the rest of my life, since I won't be able to work.

/so THIS is what we've become?

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 09:45 AM (aT+Bx)

310 I wonder if there have been any studies on this. I also wonder if education became a toxic morass of leftism because the conservatives avoided or left it, or whether it's the other way around. My guess is the other way around, looking at the way Dewey, Marcuse, Gramsci and their followers down the line coopted education. I could be wrong. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 02:36 PM (0mRoj) I agree with you and like I said earlier, there was a subtle switch to teaching a "subject" and teaching "education." Many teachers actually know squat about the subject they are teaching, but they they possess the all important "teacher's certificate."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 09:45 AM (7uYFy)

311 Square brackets, thanks. I never would have guessed. Thank you.

Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 09:46 AM (HzHFO)

312 Government school teachers know how to milk the system. Salaries, bennies and molestation come before doing their jobs. Teacher sex abuse would make even Pope Frankie blush. The education of the utes is way down on their list. About number 48.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2017 09:46 AM (5VlCp)

313 Why would allowing the deeply mentally ill into the armed forces make the armed forces better at killing our enemies? If you can't make a compelling case for that, there is no discussion.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2017 09:47 AM (aZq03)

314 I agree with you and like I said earlier, there was a subtle switch to teaching a "subject" and teaching "education." Many teachers actually know squat about the subject they are teaching, but they they possess the all important "teacher's certificate." Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 02:45 PM (7uYFy) You're right about that. I've spoken with teachers who actually went to the trouble to master their subject area, and they have rather unkind things to say about the education majors/masters/PhDs.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:47 AM (0mRoj)

315 Meanwhile, I'm finding some additional interesting links between Fusion GPS and Hillary backers and John F'n McCain. Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 02:41 PM (/tuJf) ----------- Will you be a good boy and share?

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 09:47 AM (UoSKV)

316 Square brackets, thanks. I never would have guessed. Thank you. Posted by: pst314 at July 30, 2017 02:46 PM (HzHFO) ------------ Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha, baby.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 09:48 AM (UoSKV)

317 "Meanwhile, I'm finding some additional interesting links between Fusion GPS and Hillary backers and John F'n McCain."

Soros obviously funded and pulled strings for Hillary.

Soros also financially supported The John S. McCain Institute For Being A Pompous Lying Shitheel (which seems to exist to hold "civic affairs forums" in luxury resorts in Sedona featuring prominent "public intellectuals" like Ben Affleck).

So it seems pretty likely that there must be some Soros back channel involving Fusion GPS, too. The tentacles reach everywhere.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 30, 2017 09:49 AM (ujwCG)

318 Italics: Is this all there is to it?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 09:49 AM (zkGZ8)

319 The pretense that they are working in some rarefied intellectual pursuit is offensive. There are websites that do as good a job as most American teachers. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 02:43 PM (wYseH) Used to argue with teachers all the time. They love to compare the importance of THEIR job as opposed to ball players ( for some reason they always fixated on Alex Rodriguez) who make "so much more than teachers." I used to laugh but they were serious. Compare your salary to that of a professional athlete, and you will always be "underpaid."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 09:49 AM (7uYFy)

320 they have rather unkind things to say about the education majors/masters/PhDs. Posted by: Insomniac ------------ I'm a Doctor , dammit!

Posted by: Jill Biden at July 30, 2017 09:49 AM (OdK9v)

321 Whoa -- Thanks, CBD!

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 09:50 AM (zkGZ8)

322 The only case for Trans Genders in the military is the Leftist media owns/controls the discussion

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2017 09:50 AM (pPKG5)

323 I like the Statue of Liberty fine, but she's not a symbol of the USA. She's just one part of the puzzle.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 09:51 AM (39g3+)

324 Italics: Is this all there is to it? Posted by: FireHorse ------------- Then let's break out the booze, my friend...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 09:51 AM (OdK9v)

325 Soros also financially supported The John S. McCain Institute For Being A Pompous Lying Shitheel (which seems to exist to hold "civic affairs forums" in luxury resorts in Sedona featuring prominent "public intellectuals" like Ben Affleck). So it seems pretty likely that there must be some Soros back channel involving Fusion GPS, too. The tentacles reach everywhere. Posted by: torquewrench at July 30, 2017 02:49 PM (ujwCG) I hope McCain's dying doesn't blunt the investigation ....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 09:51 AM (7uYFy)

326 Used to argue with teachers all the time. They love to compare the importance of THEIR job as opposed to ball players (for some reason they always fixated on Alex Rodriguez) who make "so much more than teachers." ________ For starters, a professional athlete won't lodge a complaint if there are more than 28 spectators in the stadium.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 09:52 AM (zkGZ8)

327 Italics: Is this all there is to it? Posted by: FireHorse ------------- Then let's break out the booze, my friend... Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 02:51 PM (OdK9v) --------- My goodness. My priest talked about that song in his homily this morning. I didn't know it, and I came home and looked it up. I had never heard it before. And now here comes Hammer with it.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 09:53 AM (UoSKV)

328 I think it's something come stesso, ma io sono not sure. Uh oh. I think I broke it...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2017 09:53 AM (hcyUh)

329 Pshaw h8rs. John McCain is the lioness of the Senate.

Posted by: Cock Curious GOP at July 30, 2017 09:53 AM (mcI77)

330 And now here comes Hammer with it. Posted by: bluebell ----------- Cosmic intersection. They've been happening to me lately.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 09:54 AM (kUfFq)

331 Meanwhile, I'm finding some additional interesting links between Fusion GPS and Hillary backers and John F'n McCain. Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 02:41 PM (/tuJf) John McCain? That fvcker who was so fvcking connected to Fusion GPS that he hand delivered their report to FBI head Comey? I'm finding that hard to believe. Even from a resident of the diminutive state of Rhode Island.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 09:55 AM (EgwCt)

332 You're looking at this personally. I'm looking at it societally. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 02:20 PM (0mRoj) Perhaps. I'm a results oriented person, and somehow all of my immediate family and inlaws have had successful long term marriages. Some of my close friends screwed up their starter marriages but got their second marriages right. What are we all doing that causes this success? I dunno, but I do know that the women aren't men haters, and the men aren't women haters. That way leads to failure, in my experience. Yes, it's just a personal observation, but my parents certainly were and are good role models, and I think that's key. As I said, I'm extremely blessed.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 09:55 AM (7RvOV)

333 330 And now here comes Hammer with it. Posted by: bluebell ----------- Cosmic intersection. They've been happening to me lately. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 02:54 PM (kUfFq) I thought it was a Moronic convergence!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:55 AM (0mRoj)

334 OK. I'm up now.

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2017 09:56 AM (Sfs6o)

335 I thought it was a Moronic convergence! Posted by: Insomniac ---------- Scheduled for Las Vegas...they tell me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 09:57 AM (kUfFq)

336 For the type of work we're talking about here today, I would opt for one of the metal softball bats as opposed to a 54 inch hickory.

Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 09:57 AM (eP+dt)

337 Hey, andycanuck, sorry I didn't respond to your question in the book thread.  The Seven Years' War book request is for someone who is a history buff and is looking for a book or two dealing with the entire war instead of just the North American portion of the proceedings.  No paper writing involved, just for his own interest.  I immediately thought of asking here. 

Posted by: Vendette at July 30, 2017 09:57 AM (bSuWc)

338 Yes, it's just a personal observation, but my parents certainly were and are good role models, and I think that's key. As I said, I'm extremely blessed. Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 02:55 PM (7RvOV) That is truly a great thing, said in all sincerity. And one cannot overstate the role parents play in shaping those aspects of their children's lives.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:57 AM (0mRoj)

339 I'm finding that hard to believe. Even from a resident of the diminutive state of Rhode Island. Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 30, 2017 02:55 PM (EgwCt) Cross reference the high-points of Fusion GPS's activity on certain issues with what Meghan McCain was bleating about on those vapid, clanking shoutfests on Fox News at the same time... Would be interesting to see if there's any correlation.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2017 09:58 AM (hcyUh)

340 For the type of work we're talking about here today, I would opt for one of the metal softball bats as opposed to a 54 inch hickory. Posted by: RM ------------ I can't stand bats that go "ping".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 09:59 AM (OdK9v)

341 ...and for the most part are arrogant, poorly educated asses.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 02:43 PM (wYseH)




So let me tell you a story about one of my 6th grade teachers.  We were assigned to write a report for a history assignment.  My report was about the American Revolution.  I got a B on the paper.  Why?  Because I used the phrase "American Revolution".  She told me it was redundant, because there was only one revolution.


Fast forward about 25 years and this same teacher has been affirmative-actioned up through the ranks and has become the principal of the high school I attended.  It is in this position in which she is hoisted upon the PC petard and immediately fired when she tells two students who claim to be in a lesbian relationship that they are going to hell.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 09:59 AM (yzxic)

342 340 For the type of work we're talking about here today, I would opt for one of the metal softball bats as opposed to a 54 inch hickory. Posted by: RM ------------ I can't stand bats that go "ping". Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 02:59 PM (OdK9v) Stop buying Chinese.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 09:59 AM (0mRoj)

343 [This?] OMG!

Posted by: Your tranny FOB mates at July 30, 2017 10:00 AM (n5n5Q)

344 Iowahawk has that great line about how MSM cover stories ... with a pillow ... until they stop moving. The Deep State may be doing this with the Piss Dossier now that Mueller is Special Counsel with jurisdiction over all things Russiagate. Comey has an interest in smothering this, because he's complicit.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 10:00 AM (pV/54)

345 So let me tell you a story about one of my 6th grade teachers. We were assigned to write a report for a history assignment. My report was about the American Revolution. I got a B on the paper. Why? Because I used the phrase "American Revolution". She told me it was redundant, because there was only one revolution. Excuse me? Good god, that's almost unbelievable.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:00 AM (0mRoj)

346 Excuse me? Good god, that's almost unbelievable. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 03:00 PM (0mRoj) the saddest thing is that "almost" you stuck in there....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2017 10:01 AM (hcyUh)

347 For the type of work we're talking about here today, I would opt for one of the metal softball bats as opposed to a 54 inch hickory. Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 02:57 PM (eP+dt) We're talking remediation of sexual assault. The soft metallic 'ping' of metal on skull does not compare against the infinitely more satisfying aural range of the solid 'thunk' of 54 ounces of hickory. Plus hickory is recyclable and sustainable you earth h8er.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 10:02 AM (EgwCt)

348 ...and for the most part are arrogant, poorly educated asses. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 30, 2017 02:43 PM (wYseH) -------- I wake up from a nice afternoon nap and see that you people are talking about me?!

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2017 10:02 AM (Sfs6o)

349 These are also a few of my favorite things. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 02:43 PM (0mRoj) One of the many reasons I like you, which one wouldn't know from my bitchiness today (and other days too).

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 10:02 AM (7RvOV)

350 A'ight. I'm off to a bar-bee-que. Enjoy the rest of your day peeps.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2017 10:02 AM (hcyUh)

351 250 I think working with kids and education tends to attract leftists more (shaping minds, a sense of power, changing the world, etc its all fantasies of power and such) and its not easy to make it through the required college degrees with your conservatism intact, for young people at least. And of course, unions and other organizations are not kind to conservatives. ******* I think it depends on the program and the instructors. I got my teaching certificate when programs were welcoming older students who had previous careers. So my classes had IT techs, technical writers, a chemical process operator, etc. when I went to Wayne State, most of the instructors worked in schools, so the special ed instructor was the principal at the local school for the deaf, the reading instructor was expert at selecting textbooks (and explained why Texas and California dictate what other states can get), and the adolescent psychology prof was a child psychologist. They were instructors that could tell you about how to teach when your school has no materials, what to do when a kid comes into your class midway through a marking period, and how educational fads were going to come and go. Those were really helpful classes. Then a few years later I attended another college for re-certification. I ended up with professors who did research or consulted in classrooms but weren't day-in-day-out classroom teachers. A couple were excellent, but I got really tired of being told that students asking off-the-wall questions were "teachable moments" (no, they're similar to kids avoiding bedtime). And the guy who compared our schools unfavorably to New Hampshire schools (his state) based on statistics like state test scores and whenever a teacher explained how a method hadn't worked in class, he'd say it was "anecdotal evidence".

Posted by: NaughtyPine - public menace at July 30, 2017 10:04 AM (G8B7r)

352 4 What's the next Stupidity we'll need to make a case against? TOO EASY. Answer: Trans-species people who want to join the military as working dogs. It's coming. Bet on it. As my wife noted this morning, there's no end to it for two reasons primarily. On the macro level all leftist/pathologies/agendas are geared to sowing chaos and the eventual destruction of capitalism and western civilization. On a smaller scale, it is the need of special snowflakes to be acknowledged as "special and unique". Once their particular pathology is normalized, there is a need to go next-level to achieve the shock and outrage they crave so badly. I have no discernable special skills or abilities, so notice me because I covered my body with tattoos. Now notice me because I had my appearance surgically altered to appear to be a demon, another gender or an animal. Normalize THAT! OK, now I had a perfectly good leg removed so I can take on the mantle of disabled "victim". Now I had my skin darkened to take on the persona of victimized "person of color". And on and on it goes. There is nothing you can think of, no matter how insane, that doesn't loom as the next damn thing. That's why adults need to draw a line NOW, before the next group of disturbed idiots gets the next idiocy going.

Posted by: Former MSM journalist, active Moron at July 30, 2017 10:05 AM (fJuD+)

353 *wanders off to invest in Serta Bedcoins*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 10:05 AM (OdK9v)

354 My husband says this works with borzois so might work with other breeds. You ignore them and start looking intently at a patch of ground, maybe even reach down and touch the area. Their curiosity will get the better of them and they will come over to see what you are doing.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 30, 2017 10:05 AM (Lqy/e)

355 That's why they hate us- we don't allow or even celebrate transgenders in the military. I tried to help. You'd think you'd've thanked me.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at July 30, 2017 10:06 AM (zEjuG)

356 *wanders off to invest in Serta Bedcoins* Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 03:05 PM (OdK9v) ---------- Maybe go long on lottery tickets.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 10:06 AM (UoSKV)

357 >>Will you be a good boy and share? This is a good start. >>Soros also financially supported The John S. McCain Institute For Being A Pompous Lying Shitheel (which seems to exist to hold "civic affairs forums" in luxury resorts in Sedona featuring prominent "public intellectuals" like Ben Affleck). >>So it seems pretty likely that there must be some Soros back channel involving Fusion GPS, too. The tentacles reach everywhere. Ever heard of Lynn Forester de Rothschild? Very wealthy and almost fanatical supporter of Hillary Clinton. When Obama scholnged Hillary in 08, Rothschild who was a member of the DNC planning committee, famously refused to support Obama and threw her support to McCain. She was going to support Romney but then supported Huntsman at least until he got beaten in the primaries. She eventually support Obama. In 2012, Fusion GPS started going after Romney mega donors with all sorts of wild and false allegations which were even listed on Obama's official website. Of course, she went bigly for Hillary against Trump. Rothschild is also the head of the John McCain foundation. Her hubby is an to an enormous banking fortune and very involved with the David Miliband in the UK. It was a retired British spy who put the bogus dossier together. Randy Scheunemann ran a lobbying firm in DC for a long time and is a top McCain foreign policy advisor. He was also on the payroll of George Soros and did lobbying for his Open Society crap. He also did work for guys like Tony Blair and I'm sure Miliband. The McCain foundation does these stupid Sedona conferences where the smart set sits around and contemplates the problems of the world. It's full of lefties and one world government types including Amy Klobuchar and Sheldon Whitehouse. And of course both the Rothschilds and Randy Scheunemann. Hillary has spoken at these events, so has Tony Blair and even assholes like James Clapper. This years version went heavy on Russia and the usual suspects were all there. McCain is the only Republican I know of that had the Russia Dossier before it went public. This cabal stinks of collusion and anti-Trump/pro-Hillary bias.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 10:07 AM (/tuJf)

358 One of the many reasons I like you, which one wouldn't know from my bitchiness today (and other days too). Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 03:02 PM (7RvOV) Hey, it's the HQ. We're all just one big loving dysfunctional family!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:07 AM (0mRoj)

359 This July is much cooler than last July.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 10:08 AM (mpXpK)

360 354 My husband says this works with borzois Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 30, 2017 03:05 PM (Lqy/e) He's in ballet?

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:09 AM (0mRoj)

361 I would also note the Rothschild is mentioned a number of times in the Hillary email dumps. They are thick as thieves.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 10:09 AM (/tuJf)

362 Saw the Dunkirk movie yesterday. Totally worth it, as Nolan put a lot of work into the story and cinematography.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 30, 2017 10:09 AM (Quwsn)

363 359 This July is much cooler than last July. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 03:08 PM (mpXpK) Man made climate disruption!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:09 AM (0mRoj)

364 I had a government/civics teacher in high school who was giving us the "No one gets an A in my class" speech at the start of the year. I was a bit of a smartass (hard to believe, I know) and so I said to a friend in front of me "He must not be a very good teacher, then." He heard me saying something and pulled the whole embarrass me thing by making me "share with the whole class". I said "I told him you must not be a very good teacher if no one can master the material in your class." I got numerous laughs and many gasps plus one evil glare from the teacher. That was a looooong year, needless to say.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 10:10 AM (GiRFl)

365 he'd say it was "anecdotal evidence". Posted by: NaughtyPine - --------- Ah. The old analogical vs. dialogical deflection.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 10:10 AM (OdK9v)

366 "This cabal stinks of collusion and anti-Trump/pro-Hillary bias." Is the DOJ precluded from going after this because it's now Mueller's exclusive bailiwick. If so, well played sirs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 10:10 AM (pV/54)

367 I thought it was a Moronic convergence! Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry I prefer a Moronic Eclipse. Happens when you're so surrounded by Morons that you can't see the SJWs. (Or the democrats, or GOPes, or)

Posted by: mikeski at July 30, 2017 10:11 AM (ILUzW)

368 And the guy who compared our schools unfavorably to New Hampshire schools (his state) based on statistics like state test scores and whenever a teacher explained how a method hadn't worked in class, he'd say it was "anecdotal evidence".

Posted by: NaughtyPine - public menace at July 30, 2017 03:04 PM (G8B7r)



Heh, another anecdote from my childhood.  My uncle married a woman from Tacoma, WA. She's *very* liberal and has always looked down on the Southern side of the family as backwards, ignorant hicks.  Once when they were visiting she was in the midst of informing my mother of how poor the public schools in the South are when my cousin, two years older and two grades ahead of my brother, comes into the room hoisting a textbook and loudly exclaims, "This is cool, Mom!  Charles (my brother) is using the same math book in class that I use!"

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 10:11 AM (yzxic)

369 He heard me saying something and pulled the whole embarrass me thing by making me "share with the whole class". I said "I told him you must not be a very good teacher if no one can master the material in your class." I got numerous laughs and many gasps plus one evil glare from the teacher. That was a looooong year, needless to say. Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 30, 2017 03:10 PM (GiRFl) LOL. I tip my hat to you, sir!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:11 AM (0mRoj)

370 This July is much cooler than last July. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party ----------- 58 deg. at 8:00 this a.m., Asheville.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 10:11 AM (OdK9v)

371 This July is much cooler than last July. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 03:08 PM (mpXpK) But much more volatile. I can feel it.

Posted by: Latest Lefty Talking Point [/i] at July 30, 2017 10:12 AM (EgwCt)

372 This years version went heavy on Russia and the usual suspects were all there. McCain is the only Republican I know of that had the Russia Dossier before it went public. This cabal stinks of collusion and anti-Trump/pro-Hillary bias. Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 03:07 PM (/tuJf) ------------- Boy, you can say that again. I think Congress could get a lot more done if they had to do it the way the first Congress had to do it - paper and pen, no phone, no internet, no staff (at least to speak of), no computers, no anything. Except a desk and a hard chair. Oh, and no air conditioning.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 10:12 AM (UoSKV)

373 Agencie France is reporting that 700+ U.S. diplomats have been ordered out of Russia.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2017 10:12 AM (ty7RM)

374 359 This July is much cooler than last July. --------- Here at Little Sonora on the Miami we have been alternating standard summer weather with remarkably mild weather, as the Arctic Circle ignores Algore in favor of sending cool air into the Atlantic Gulf stream. I have racked my brains, and cannot remember such a mild summer since the family moved to Ohio following the blizzard years of the Seventies.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 30, 2017 10:12 AM (Quwsn)

375 370 This July is much cooler than last July. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party ----------- 58 deg. at 8:00 this a.m., Asheville. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 03:11 PM (OdK9v) I'm envious. Hot and humid as balls here in FL. It's no AZ or TX but still...

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:12 AM (0mRoj)

376 This July is much cooler than last July. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party -------- It's not the heat. It's the humidity.

Posted by: Weasel at July 30, 2017 10:13 AM (Sfs6o)

377 Are those Walmart SUPs at under $500 any good? 10.5 feet in length, rigid, support up to 225 pounds. We're in need of a new thread, amirite?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 30, 2017 10:14 AM (n5n5Q)

378 Machines that go "ping" on the other hand...

Posted by: Monty Python at July 30, 2017 10:15 AM (IqV8l)

379 340 For the type of work we're talking about here today, I would opt for one of the metal softball bats as opposed to a 54 inch hickory. Posted by: RM ------------ I can't stand bats that go "ping". ------ The metal bats deform and dent beyond the point of usefulness after a while. A good Luhvull Slugger will either split or stay solid, and a good one will stay solid for a lo-o-ng time. It is also denser than the metal bat, with a corresponding effect on the Antifa-hai or zombie struck with it.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 30, 2017 10:15 AM (Quwsn)

380 We're in need of a new thread, amirite? Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 30, 2017 03:14 PM (n5n5Q) ---------- Hey, pal, what are you insinuating? I showered this morning.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 10:16 AM (UoSKV)

381 The average high temp at my house is 7°F cooler.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 10:17 AM (mpXpK)

382 An excellent teacher I had in High School:


Retired USAF Major (prior enlisted) who taught civics and government.  He had served as a Navigator/EWO on BUFFs in Vietnam.  He'd tell the kids who weren't paying attention or otherwise blowing off class that they'd end up as cannon fodder one way or the other, either figuratively or literally, because they'd be too ignorant to understand what was going on in the world around them.

Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 10:17 AM (yzxic)

383 Transgenders in the military is simply the latest tool being used by the Progressives to whip-up their base about a "diversity" issue and against the evil Republicans and Christians. Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, etc., couldn't give a rat's ass about the transgenders and their "issues." Put them on truth-serum and I bet they'd be against it on pure military effectiveness. McCain will be against anything PDT is for. Back in the day, he'd likely have been first in line to brutally haze any transgender in his unit or on his ship. The MFM is like Pavlov's dog on this and similar societal issues: They will instantly salivate-out a stream of words denouncing any "anti-diversity" move the PDT, the Republicans, the Christians, and the Deplorables (TM) make or are in favor of. It's reflexive, and the same terms are used regardless of the specific issue: Bigots, racists, misogynists, etc.

Posted by: Gref at July 30, 2017 10:17 AM (AMIL/)

384 Pixy doesn't like the asci degree symbol

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 10:18 AM (mpXpK)

385 I don't understand this aluminum vs. wooden bat thing. You guys need to grow a pair.

Posted by: Buford Pusser, wielding hickory pick handle at July 30, 2017 10:18 AM (OdK9v)

386 376 This July is much cooler than last July. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party -------- It's not the heat. It's the humidity. ------ The humidity is WAY down this summer, which is strange for an Ohio/Miami river valley summer. It makes me wonder if we are being given a Sign of impending events.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 30, 2017 10:18 AM (Quwsn)

387 373 Agencie France is reporting that 700+ U.S. diplomats have been ordered out of Russia. Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2017 03:12 PM (ty7RM) What reason was given?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 10:18 AM (RD7QR)

388 Should be about time for a new thread.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 10:19 AM (mpXpK)

389 Hey, it's the HQ. We're all just one big loving dysfunctional family!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 03:07 PM (0mRoj)


Hello, Insomniac.

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:19 AM (Id9+8)

390 They are talking about three 100+ days this week in the PNW. One could be 110.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 30, 2017 10:19 AM (Lqy/e)

391 All of this is, and was, known- they just don't care if we have gl take a few lumps to establish their utopia. Eggs/omelettes- we're expected to just shut up and color regardless.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 30, 2017 10:20 AM (MGl8Z)

392 387 
What reason was given?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 03:18 PM (RD7QR)


the sanctions we put on them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 10:20 AM (mpXpK)

393 >>I think Congress could get a lot more done if they had to do it the way the first Congress had to do it - paper and pen, no phone, no internet, no staff (at least to speak of), no computers, no anything. Except a desk and a hard chair. >>Oh, and no air conditioning. Or they could just hire me and give me a laptop and subpoena power. This stuff isn't hard to find.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 10:21 AM (/tuJf)

394 245 Agree with the last part, but as for the first sentence I've seen wives who refused to forgive people for slights to their husbands long after the husband had laughed it off. My dad even observed the same thing about his female employees. After he'd blown off some fight with a competing company's guy, his loyal staff just wouldn't let it go. He was grateful, but also wished they would chill out for a change. Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 01:59 PM (7RvOV) This is true and it's the real reason why groups of male friends "break-up" when they get married--or even start going "steady" with girls. the boys can josh and joke with each other and call each other names and make remarks about dick-size or whatever, but the girls don't laugh along and before you know it..... On the other hand, I've seen these same girls take these same guys ( their husbands or boyfriends) and break their balls viciously and wear them down to a nub within a few years--all the while cheating on them. Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 02:05 PM (7uYFy) Uh, I can only comment from experience here, but j's friends didn't spend the same amount of time together because they were busy with their spouses & kids, and were way more serious about their jobs to employ them. And as for cheating, I didn't know of any of the wives cheating. But a quarter of the married men were. How did I know? I saw it firsthand. Human beings fuck up. It's not confined to one gender. The broad brush painting is getting tedious.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 30, 2017 10:21 AM (YhV5r)

395 "McCain will be against anything PDT is for." Yep. It's one thing to have a grudge against Trump during the campaign, but now he's President and head of your party.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 30, 2017 10:21 AM (pV/54)

396 Pixy doesn't like the asci degree symbol Posted by: Vic We Have No Party ----------- 58º ?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 10:21 AM (OdK9v)

397 392 387 What reason was given? Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 03:18 PM (RD7QR) the sanctions we put on them. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 03:20 PM (mpXpK) Seems excessive, but Putin is an inscrutable bastid.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 10:22 AM (RD7QR)

398 7℉

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 30, 2017 10:23 AM (IqV8l)

399 But the metal bat produces more bat speed which does more damage, is harder for the battee to deflect or dodge, and makes it more user friendly for most people. Moreover, it is easier to clean without leaving trace evidence.

Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 10:23 AM (eP+dt)

400 390 They are talking about three 100+ days this week in the PNW. One could be 110. ----------- Great!! This is our chance to bag a Bigfoot when one passes out from the heat. Same thing for all the hippies that moved to Oregon & Washington.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 30, 2017 10:23 AM (Quwsn)

401 Hey, it's the HQ. We're all just one big loving dysfunctional family! Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 03:07 PM (0mRoj) Hey no shit. Someone earlier, maybe it was Mr Dildo, joked about the ONT. I had to ban myself from the ONT because of my own behavior. There MAY have been some alcohol involved, in the Moron Way.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 10:23 AM (7RvOV)

402 Agencie France is reporting that 700+ U.S. diplomats have been ordered out of Russia.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 30, 2017 03:12 PM (ty7RM)
---
What reason was given?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 03:18 PM (RD7QR)



Assuming they're not all "diplomats" in the strictest sense, but that that number includes random State Dept personnel and support staff, 700 people seems like an excessive number of employees.


Posted by: Country Singer at July 30, 2017 10:23 AM (yzxic)

403 Or they could just hire me and give me a laptop and subpoena power. This stuff isn't hard to find. Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2017 03:21 PM (/tuJf) ---------- It seems like they're not anxious to find it. Only to hide it. I hope this blows wide open. I've said that about a lot of things in the past year.

Posted by: bluebell at July 30, 2017 10:23 AM (UoSKV)

404 399 But the metal bat produces more bat speed which does more damage, is harder for the battee to deflect or dodge, and makes it more user friendly for most people. Moreover, it is easier to clean without leaving trace evidence. Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 03:23 PM (eP+dt) The Horde puts a huge amount of thought into some surprisingly disturbing subjects.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 10:23 AM (RD7QR)

405 The Horde puts a huge amount of thought into some surprisingly disturbing subjects.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 03:23 PM (RD7QR)


One of the reasons I love it here.

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:25 AM (Id9+8)

406 Next Sunday I'm going up on the train to meet Moms at Union Station for lunch on her trip to see her sister in Santa Barbara, whose name is Barbara by the way. We do this every year and are done with Mexican food thing, anybody know something different close to there?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 30, 2017 10:26 AM (6Ll1u)

407 Baby backs on the smoker, looking forward to the Food Thread.

Posted by: Uncle Si at July 30, 2017 10:27 AM (ZLmoR)

408 Human beings fuck up. It's not confined to one gender. The broad brush painting is getting tedious. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy ________ It's how the painting gets done: Comments 1-10 are the dropcloths Comments 11-225 are the walls and ceiling Comments 226-400 are the moulding and details

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 10:27 AM (zkGZ8)

409 He took consulate property also. Isn't that an act of war.

Posted by: gNewt at July 30, 2017 10:28 AM (rSHlY)

410 The Horde puts a huge amount of thought into some surprisingly disturbing subjects. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 30, 2017 03:23 PM (RD7QR) One of the reasons I love it here. Posted by: Miley ------------- Tarps, lime, vats of acid, chloroform. Yeah, it's amazing how eclectic the Horde can be. Willow wonders why she has odd dreams.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 10:28 AM (OdK9v)

411 @ Buford Pusser, Equipment changes over time. There is a reason Roger Federer does not use wooden rackets, and Jordan Spieth does not use persimmon woods. Don't put yourself at a competitive disadvantage before the game even starts.

Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 10:29 AM (eP+dt)

412 But the metal bat produces more bat speed which does more damage, is harder for the battee to deflect or dodge, and makes it more user friendly for most people. Moreover, it is easier to clean without leaving trace evidence. Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 03:23 PM (eP+dt) 'Burn Out' chlorine powder will remove the last traces of even the most incriminating evidence on a 54 ounce hickory wooden bat. Or, so I've heard. DNA so denigrated it looks like it came from Mars. Two billion years ago.

Posted by: Latest Lefty Talking Point [/i] at July 30, 2017 10:29 AM (EgwCt)

413 Baby backs on the smoker, looking forward to the Food Thread. Posted by: Uncle Si ---------- PP cookout?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 10:29 AM (OdK9v)

414 Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess at July 30, 2017 03:19 PM (Id9+ Hi! How goes it?

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:30 AM (0mRoj)

415 Pretty well, Insomniac!  August rent will be paid, and that was my number one priority.

How about you?

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:31 AM (Id9+8)

416 Equipment changes over time. There is a reason Roger Federer does not use wooden rackets, and Jordan Spieth does not use persimmon woods. Don't put yourself at a competitive disadvantage before the game even starts. Posted by: RM ------------ Yeah? Well, Mr. Hoity-Toidy, I'll have you know that I've started carrying a Sthil chainsaw also. In a holster.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 10:32 AM (OdK9v)

417 I had to ban myself from the ONT because of my own behavior. There MAY have been some alcohol involved, in the Moron Way. Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 03:23 PM (7RvOV) Alcohol and self-bannination. Doesn't get more Moron Way than that!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:32 AM (0mRoj)

418 406 are done with Mexican food thing, anybody know something different close to there? Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 30, 2017 03:26 PM (6Ll1u) How close is Philippe the Original? Awesome French dip.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 30, 2017 10:32 AM (YhV5r)

419 The Horde puts a huge amount of thought into some surprisingly disturbing subjects. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist ________ I suppose imprinting "yenoM noD" onto someone's forehead could be disturbing.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 30, 2017 10:33 AM (zkGZ8)

420 I would respectfully submit that a rinse down with a common garden hose and high pressure nozzle is more convenient than Burn Out chlorine powder. Especially if you are going to use it often.

Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 10:34 AM (eP+dt)

421 359. Not here in Colorado Vic. The East just won the jet stream lottery this year.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 30, 2017 10:34 AM (8qFZP)

422 415 Pretty well, Insomniac! August rent will be paid, and that was my number one priority. How about you? Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess at July 30, 2017 03:31 PM (Id9+ Roof over the head is always a good thing. I'm my usual self. Nothing of any encouragement has happened lately. I'd like to think I'm due, but also know that doesn't mean a damn thing.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:34 AM (0mRoj)

423 Equipment changes over time. There is a reason Roger Federer does not use wooden rackets, and Jordan Spieth does not use persimmon woods. Don't put yourself at a competitive disadvantage before the game even starts.
Posted by: RM
------------

Yeah? Well, Mr. Hoity-Toidy, I'll have you know that I've started carrying a Sthil chainsaw also. In a holster.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 03:32 PM (OdK9v)


If we're still talking about baseball bats here, Slapweasel told me that the trees they used to make baseball bats have been all but wiped out by some kind of pest or disease.  The wood they use now is not as robust, leading to a lot more splitting.

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:35 AM (Id9+8)

424 Now, see? I'd never heard of Burn Out until now.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2017 10:35 AM (OdK9v)

425 But the metal bat produces more bat speed which does more damage, is harder for the battee to deflect or dodge, and makes it more user friendly for most people. Moreover, it is easier to clean without leaving trace evidence. Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 03:23 PM (eP+dt) The Horde puts a huge amount of thought into some surprisingly disturbing subjects. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July They are just thought exercises. Never know when something similar might be useful.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 30, 2017 10:36 AM (0wem/)

426 399 But the metal bat produces more bat speed which does more damage, is harder for the battee to deflect or dodge, and makes it more user friendly for most people. Moreover, it is easier to clean without leaving trace evidence. -------- As a Rennie, if I want to hit someone with heavy metal I have options beyond a metal bat. If I want to hit someone with a wooden club....I also have options, yeah, heh-heh-heh. Anyway a Luhvull Slugger is not a bad start, or at least it will buy me some time to get home and reach between my bookcase and the corner to pull out the real headbreakers! As for bloodstains, a little good grease remover will get those stains out.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 30, 2017 10:36 AM (Quwsn)

427 281 Teachers do earn pretty good money especially for the amount of time off they get, and yeah tenure is extremely valuable. Plus, once you have your lesson plan set, its mostly just running down the same list again each class. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2017 02:29 PM I have to correct you on that last point. Just a few weeks ago I met a NC math teacher. His lesson plans CANNOT be the same or he will get called onto the carpet. I think that's a little extreme because I have some activities that work well and are popular with the kids. That said, my lesson plans never work the same because I have different kids each year. The last two years, my evaluator was surprised to see that my lesson plans also included notes like "3rd hour will do X instead", but that happens when a class is different from the others (like the one I had with only fifteen students but eight had probation officers). I had a principal with the bright idea of having all teachers put their lesson plans in a database so he could just take them and give them to new-hires. We've done this for three years. First thing he noticed now that 1/4 of the teachers must replaced? Not a single year matches! I am struggling right now with trying to figure out the curriculum and plans that were handed off to me (new subject, and the curriculum comes from another state). It seems awfully simple. An experienced teacher told me she had to supplement it, meaning she writes grammar lessons and adds essay-writing practice because the curriculum is so basic. BTW tenure doesn't count in my state. If my evaluation is better than another teacher with seniority, I can bump her. My senior (about six years more) changed career paths suddenly after our administration decided to give her my classes and me, hers. Guess she doesn't want to work 10-12 hour days to differentiate instruction!

Posted by: NaughtyPine - public menace at July 30, 2017 10:37 AM (G8B7r)

428 ... wiped out by some kind of pest or disease. ---------- AGW. No doubt about it.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 30, 2017 10:37 AM (OdK9v)

429 I agree with you and like I said earlier, there was a subtle switch to teaching a "subject" and teaching "education." Many teachers actually know squat about the subject they are teaching, but they they possess the all important "teacher's certificate." Posted by: JoeF. at July 30, 2017 02:45 PM (7uYFy) You're right about that. I've spoken with teachers who actually went to the trouble to master their subject area, and they have rather unkind things to say about the education majors/masters/PhDs. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July Retired and or financially independent Morons and Moronettes should be teaching high school.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 30, 2017 10:37 AM (0wem/)

430 Roof over the head is always a good thing. I'm my usual self. Nothing of any encouragement has happened lately. I'd like to think I'm due, but also know that doesn't mean a damn thing.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 03:34 PM (0mRoj)


The fact that you're due doesn't guarantee anything, but remember that things can change in the snap of your fingers.  I single conversation.  You just never know.


"Courage!"  as the French say.

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:38 AM (Id9+8)

431 Well, this is interesting:

sources are saying that NatSec Advisor, H.R. McMaster has been communicating White House internal politics to Deep State Acting FBI Director Andy McCabe. Carter then implied that more White House shake-ups are perhaps on the horizon.

-from Circa

Posted by: shibumi at July 30, 2017 10:38 AM (aT+Bx)

432 I would respectfully submit that a rinse down with a common garden hose and high pressure nozzle is more convenient than Burn Out chlorine powder. Especially if you are going to use it often. Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 03:34 PM (eP+dt) Depends if you've successfully completed anger management classes with a passing grade. Not everyone does, you know. *under breath 'Gawd damnit'*

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 10:38 AM (EgwCt)

433 Hmmmm, you may have a point. Showing up at the scumbag's door with a bat is rather 70's Goodfella. I will admit showing up with an already growling chainsaw would clarify minds fairly quickly.

Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 10:39 AM (eP+dt)

434 "As a Rennie, if I want to hit someone with heavy metal I have options beyond a metal bat."

Something like...this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naqgl6AwNJQ

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:40 AM (Id9+8)

435 Bebe, I thought I saw that Philipe's closed, I have had a few of those famous French Dips though.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 30, 2017 10:40 AM (6Ll1u)

436 Amen.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 30, 2017 10:43 AM (8iiMU)

437 yankeefifth, 429; "Retired and or financially independent Morons and Moronettes should be teaching high school." Ideally, yes. Of course, that would mean breaking the teacher's unions in order to permit this. But in a few years, and once the schools are confronted with the prospect of bankruptcy. it may be attractive.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 30, 2017 10:44 AM (TKmA0)

438 435 Bebe, I thought I saw that Philipe's closed, I have had a few of those famous French Dips though. Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 30, 2017 03:40 PM (6Ll1u) Closed? Let me check. Nope, according to yelp they're open.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 30, 2017 10:44 AM (YhV5r)

439 Hey everybody. Looking forward to the GNAMM more and more every day.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 30, 2017 10:45 AM (eMKNe)

440 https://www.philippes.com/

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 30, 2017 10:45 AM (YhV5r)

441 434 "As a Rennie, if I want to hit someone with heavy metal I have options beyond a metal bat." Something like...this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naqgl6AwNJQ Cool yeah.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 30, 2017 10:46 AM (Quwsn)

442 Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess at July 30, 2017 03:38 PM (Id9+ They can, but dang if it ain't discouraging in the meantime.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 10:46 AM (0mRoj)

443 Hmmmm, you may have a point. Showing up at the scumbag's door with a bat is rather 70's Goodfella. I will admit showing up with an already growling chainsaw would clarify minds fairly quickly. Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 03:39 PM (eP+dt) And miss out on the first 'brpp, brpp, brpp' on the intendeds porch while the chain saw first fires up? You have little sense of drama, my friend.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at July 30, 2017 10:47 AM (EgwCt)

444 If we're still talking about baseball bats here, Slapweasel told me that the trees they used to make baseball bats have been all but wiped out by some kind of pest or disease. The wood they use now is not as robust, leading to a lot more splitting. Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess Ash trees are being decimated by the emerald ash borer, imported from China in wood skids (pallets, whatever) about 15 year ago. Killed all the ash trees on my street. Baseball bats are made out of either hickory or hard maple if ash isn't available or chosen by players. Players have preferences. Wood can have a different feel to different players. Hard maple, in particular, doesn't chip as much as ash, but can sometimes shatter more easily. And a lot of the ash isn't as good as it once was.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... at least I'm not Kurt Eichenwald at July 30, 2017 10:48 AM (S6Pax)

445 They can, but dang if it ain't discouraging in the meantime.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 30, 2017 03:46 PM (0mRoj)

I resalize that this may make me sound like an Obama voter, but hope sustains me

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:49 AM (Id9+8)

446 "Retired and or financially independent Morons and Moronettes should be teaching high school." Ideally, yes. Of course, that would mean breaking the teacher's unions in order to permit this. But in a few years, and once the schools are confronted with the prospect of bankruptcy. it may be attractive. Posted by: Skookumchuk at July Well, you seem to know more than I do but that is my plan when I get done with what I have to do.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 30, 2017 10:49 AM (0wem/)

447 >>>We had guys who couldn't. When faced with combat situations they crumbled. They had mental and emotional issues. They were a liability. They were most likely demoralized by the penis monster. Remove the monster, they'd become fighting machines.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 30, 2017 10:50 AM (/qEW2)

448 Miley, just want to thank you for the water cure link from the other nite. Looks promising.

Posted by: kallistn at July 30, 2017 10:50 AM (eO2Z0)

449 Woo hoo, French Dips next Sunday then. You people don't know how good this sandwich is, they even pre-dip the roll for you and the Ah Juice is amazeballs.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 30, 2017 10:50 AM (6Ll1u)

450 Lots of great suggestions on chainsaws and bats and their highest and best use. Perhaps Slapweasal and bluebell need to put a guidebook together for the Horde?

Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 10:51 AM (eP+dt)

451 Players have preferences. Wood can have a different feel to different players.
Hard maple, in particular, doesn't chip as much as ash, but can sometimes shatter more easily. And a lot of the ash isn't as good as it once was.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... at least I'm not Kurt Eichenwald at July 30, 2017 03:48 PM (S6Pax)


Rock maple?

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:51 AM (Id9+8)

452 Remove the monster, they'd become fighting machines. Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner ------------ Reporting for duty!

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at July 30, 2017 10:51 AM (OdK9v)

453 Miley, just want to thank you for the water cure link from the other nite. Looks promising.

Posted by: kallistn at July 30, 2017 03:50 PM (eO2Z0)


My Timmy says you're very welcome

Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 30, 2017 10:52 AM (Id9+8)

454 One of the reasons I love it here. Posted by: Miley, the self-cannibalizing Duchess at July 30, 2017 03:25 PM (Id9+ Heh, yep, and it's about dealing out justice to some very bad people. To paraphrase Mattis again, it's fun to kill some people, guys who've been slapping around women for not wearing a veil. I could never be a leftist. I keep thinking about this discussion on Nextdoor I was on yesterday. A mom with three young children is uneasy about all the homeless men suddenly turning up her alley. She feels sorry for them but doesn't want them there. Other women and one conservative man chime in agreeing that their situation is unfortunate, but there are numerous good shelters and it's unsafe to have those guys living in the alley. One woman says she always carries a gun just in case, even though she knows the vast majority of homeless aren't violent. Lefty man gets on and freaks out, having trouble understanding why the moms are a little uneasy about having strange men with mental and substance abuse issues lurking around their homes. He says they just need to be talked to or left alone. Yeah, buddy, whatever.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 10:54 AM (7RvOV)

455 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 30, 2017 10:54 AM (mpXpK)

456 just want to thank you for the water cure link from the other nite. Looks promising. Posted by: kallistn ------ Worked pretty well for us.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at July 30, 2017 10:54 AM (OdK9v)

457 Retired and or financially independent Morons and Moronettes should be teaching high school. We also need a lot more old-fashioned principals to hire said teachers.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2017 10:58 AM (pszv/)

458 Sorry. Late to party. Had a liberal Army CSM tell me today, he didn't care - if they were brave enough to be shot at. Didn't have a respectful answer.

Posted by: golfman at July 30, 2017 11:47 AM (48QDY)

459 "Back in the 80's, I had a BAS with a Marine grunt unit. My chief and I would get all the under performers, dummies and fuck ups and keep them in the BAS. We put our best corpsman out with the companies."

I was an HHC commander in the 80's.  My medic platoon leader wanted to send all the fuckups to the Fort Hood hospital when they asked for personnel.

I asked him if he thought a good analogy for his medics was to say that serving in the tank battalion was close to Hell, serving in the Brigade Aide station was close to Purgatory, and serving in the hospital was close to Heaven.  He agreed that was a pretty accurate summation.

I then asked him why the fuck he wanted to send his dirtbags to Heaven.  He got the point.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 30, 2017 11:54 AM (ZBO0C)

460 But the metal bat produces more bat speed which does more damage, is harder for the battee to deflect or dodge, and makes it more user friendly for most people. Moreover, it is easier to clean without leaving trace evidence. Posted by: RM at July 30, 2017 03:23 PM (eP+dt) Yes but, can you drive nails, spikes, and wood screws into a metal bat?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 30, 2017 12:11 PM (mcI77)

461 Lefty man gets on and freaks out, having trouble understanding why the moms are a little uneasy about having strange men with mental and substance abuse issues lurking around their homes. He says they just need to be talked to or left alone. Yeah, buddy, whatever.

Posted by: stace at July 30, 2017 03:54 PM (7RvOV)



I've become convinced that leftists live in some kind of fantasy land that has enough congruence with the real world to allow them to function, in some cases very well, almost all of the time, but it isn't the real world. Take this guy, for example. If the homeless guys were living in his alley, he might not have a problem with them being there. They may very well be able to live and let live indefinitely. But there's a nonzero probability that one or more of them is going to mug him, steal his stuff left outside, break into his house and steal his stuff inside, or at the very least leave stinking shit in the alley. Is that a price he's willing to pay to live in a fantasy land where those things don't happen? I wonder. I think some of them are willing to pay that price, because they're brainwashed to the point where they think it's acceptable. But those who can be brought to reality might be salvageable. Especially when the Burning Times come.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 30, 2017 12:52 PM (jK8Z7)

462 255 Scaramucci is new to me. I have read that he has been thick with President Trump for a long time. Out of respect to him and President Trump I will differ name calling until his actions warrant it.

As for as the rant goes, I loved it. I want the video.

Posted by: Just Sayin at July 30, 2017 02:14 PM (rSHlY)


Scaramucci won his job by threatening to sue CNN last month and making them retract a story and fire two staffers. Much like how Lincoln promoted Grant because he found him a general who would fight.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 30, 2017 01:10 PM (jK8Z7)

463 No transgender will make it to combat, they are in it to be a nuisance, a thorn, a sjw, and to get a free sex change op, that they will undoubtedly regret. Out. Enough! And any doctor doing that operation should be arrested. Plain and simple. It's cruel. No man wants to be a woman when he has to "dialate" for a year and wear maxi pads. Reality fucking bites! Men don't want periods and childbirth. They couldn't handle it! That's why women, real women, have that job in life.

Posted by: Alice at July 30, 2017 01:12 PM (eLvFT)

464 Way late to the thread and probably been said already....but...I can't wait for some fucktard Federal Judge to say Trump's ban is unconstitutional!

Posted by: LGoPs at July 30, 2017 01:21 PM (mhIjm)

465 Crikey good gracious yes. What that guy said. Every word of it. In my ideal universe that guy just qualified himself for a goodish position in the Trump administration.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7[/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 30, 2017 01:50 PM (Mcvvl)

466 CBD wrote: Enough for now. This one armed veteran has a business to run. Unlike Iran, the country that took my arm, Obama didn't pay me millions. God bless you sir. Everything you said rings true. Thanks you for your service. If you're ever in my stupid fucking liberal town (email me), beer and steaks are on me.

Posted by: Kid, Kenosha at July 30, 2017 04:30 PM (9jRuJ)

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