June 28, 2006

Gray Lady Down
— Ace

Via Prof. Shackleford.

The Long View:

Thanks to Slubby for the reminder.

Posted by: Ace at 09:28 AM | Comments (25)
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1 Speaking of Prof. Shackleford, does anyone know when Rusty's site will be back online by chance?

Posted by: Mark at June 28, 2006 09:33 AM (GvZ+q)

2 Here, here! I too, am eagerly waiting for the Jawa Report to get back to 100%.

Posted by: Evil Chihuahua at June 28, 2006 09:37 AM (mAhn3)

3 Its an interesting trend but a track signalling little. I mean heck, a $1 drop in a stock over 4 days is not a lot of big news. And considering that the 'family' holds most of the voting stock, public shares not having the right, not much to worry for the Quieslings at the NYT.

Posted by: johnMc at June 28, 2006 09:41 AM (Dxk/h)

4 I am not a fan of advertiser boycotts, but I will get behind one for the NYT at this point. Is there a blogger putting together a lst?

Posted by: Clark at June 28, 2006 09:49 AM (N8PcP)

5 I had an interesting experience with the New York Times recently.

I wonder if the New York Times has a secret program of their own they're not telling subscribers about.

Here's the story:

They sent me a subscription offer.... some ridiculously low price offer.

I sent them back the prepaid envelope empty...

Amazingly, two weeks later, I started receiving the NYT in my driveway every morning. At first I thought it was another desperation tactic to get new subscribers by giving away the paper.

Then the invoice finally arrived, claiming that I'd agreed to subscribe. I called and asked them to fax me a copy of anything I'd signed agreeing to get their rag.

They politely and quickly canceled the subscription without charging me for the papers delivered.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I KNOW that I sent the an empty envelope.

Since then I've been wondering - Do they use encrypted bar-coding on the subscription envelope which identifies the person to whom the subscription offer was sent? It's no harder than computer printing the name and address which they have to do anyhow.

It would save a lot of expense for them as they would drastically reduce the handling of the envelopes. Just machine read the bar code information, and trash the envelope and its contents without even opening them.

You're going to send an invoice anyhow... so it really makes a lot of business sense. Think of the personnel costs you save by not having to have people open and read the contents of the envelope.

Can anyone tell me if this is just paranoia? If it is, then I think I've stumbled on a very marketable idea. I've no idea how to research this...

However, if they ARE doing this the NYT is doing it secretly

Posted by: at June 28, 2006 09:55 AM (wSBsc)

6 Clark,
Via a reader at Michelle's
"And many readers are asking for a list of NYTimes advertisers. I'm not sure how effective an advertising boycott will be, but if you want to do it, a reader sends this list:
Corporate Headquarters
Rob Henrickson, CEO
MetLife, Inc.
200 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10166

Margaret M. Foran, Senior Vice President,
235 East 42nd Street, New York, New York 10017.

Corporate Headquarters 2001 Edmund Halley Drive
Reston, VA 20191

Dong-Jin Oh President & CEO
Consumer Electronics
105 Challenger Road
Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660
Tel: 1800-SAMSUNG
Fax: 973-601-6001

AMD (American Micro Devices)

Posted by: Pupster at June 28, 2006 10:09 AM (NMGPj)

Posted by: Pupster at June 28, 2006 10:11 AM (NMGPj)

8 Since then I've been wondering - Do they use encrypted bar-coding on the subscription envelope which identifies the person to whom the subscription offer was sent?

Yes, the envelopes and mailers can have the information on their barcodes as to who it was sent to. My work uses them to identify customers.

Posted by: Mark at June 28, 2006 10:14 AM (GvZ+q)

9 Wasn't "Gray Lady down" the phrase used in Naked Gun 2½ when Lt. Drebin kept knocking Barbara Bush over railings and stuff?

Posted by: p. thadz at June 28, 2006 10:29 AM (BBv3C)

10 Gee maybe we should be telling NYT that major printer makers in cooperation with the FBI and Secret Service now encode serialization on all output printed by these devices. I mean, heck, it is in line with their current reducco delecti.

link : http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/index.php


NYT probably bought a list from a clearing house. Your name was on it. Usually there is a barcode imprint on the front of the return envelope. That is a serial code that tracks to you. Everybody on the list got the same discount offer, so there is not need to open the envelope.

But I like the idea. Just send back empty envelopes. I get this all the time from Dallas Morning News. I will have to try it. Another rock in my bag of tricks.

Posted by: JohnMc at June 28, 2006 10:33 AM (Dxk/h)

11 Gray Lady Down also is a reference to a sunk Sub (I do mean sunk vice submerged).

Posted by: dj elliott at June 28, 2006 10:34 AM (wLsKz)

12 Posted by at June 28, 2006 02:55 PM

No, you're not paronoid. Sports Illustrated did the same thing to me. I always send back unsolicited prepaid envelopes and when I did this with their subscription offer, they signed me up.

I called and asked if they'd received a signature and they cancelled my subscription without any hassle.

Posted by: The Warden at June 28, 2006 10:43 AM (8WTw1)

13 I suppose that barcode deal must be how they tracked down that college professor who stuffed dog poop into the mail slot of a Republican's campaign headquarters, using an envelope that had been mailed to her.

I seem to have Pee & Poop on the brain now. Thanks a bunch, Ace.

Posted by: stace at June 28, 2006 10:43 AM (A56/D)

14 Karl Rove just made me misspell paranoid.

They're everywhere.

Posted by: The Warden at June 28, 2006 10:44 AM (8WTw1)


I guess the NYT is read mostly by limousine liberals. Republicans are not the party of the rich.

Posted by: adolfo velasquez at June 28, 2006 10:46 AM (OfelW)

16 So the NYT IS running a secret program that identifes people without their knowledge!!!!!!

Where's the attack on them for that?????

Posted by: LOKKI at June 28, 2006 12:07 PM (wSBsc)

17 I just bought the New York Times for $25. No, not a subscription - the entire company!

Posted by: at June 28, 2006 02:28 PM (lxb4k)

18 I'm up 14.4% since shorting NYT in February.

Posted by: Moonbat_One at June 28, 2006 04:00 PM (qlF1y)

19 Looks like the New York Sewer is suffering for its act of treason and those who once read this liberal left-wing rag are exercising their constitutional right and wont buy or read it GOOD I HOPE FRANK RICH ENDS UP HOMELESS

Posted by: spurwing plover at June 28, 2006 04:22 PM (n7v4a)

20 Check out that cliff the stock price dropped over 9:30am Friday morning (23 June) -- you know, the same morning they decided it was a good idea to publish classified war secrets for the whole world to read.

The Pulitzer committe may like traitors, but it sure looks like Wall Street does not (and good for them).
$1 drop in a stock over 4 days is not a lot of big newsWell, it is when $1 is 4% of your stock price (and down by 50% over the last two years). Still, it hasn't yet been a whole week, so the stock could rebound, especially if the GOP doesn't do anything more than hold press conferences and pass resolutions.

Posted by: Space of Aides at June 28, 2006 05:30 PM (ssxTO)

21 All due respect, Space of Aides, no, the drop over the past 4 days really isn't a big deal. The 50% drop since 2004, now that's a big deal, but they, like most of the print media, have "issues" with competition from non-print sources.

A drop of $5/share over the next week would be much more impressive as a sign of market disdain for their most recent politically motivated actions.

Posted by: Patton at June 28, 2006 08:07 PM (Kc90N)

22 An interesting graph would be one showing not only the NYT company stock price, but compare it against an index, such as the S&P 500.

Posted by: Ron at June 29, 2006 05:18 AM (Bhe/R)

23 Anyone who thinks the "long view" is 2 years 2004-2006 isn't an investor they are a speculator. Anyone hear putting their money where there mouth is and shorting the stock ?

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