April 28, 2014

GOP Congressman: We're Almost There on an Immigration Deal
— Ace

Great.

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., told CQ Roll Call that pro-rewrite calls earlier this week from two Illinois Republicans, Reps. Adam Kinzinger and Aaron Schock, recent comments from Speaker John A. Boehner, combined with a rash of immigration rallies and protests across the nation in recent days, are indications that momentum has shifted back to those hoping to implement an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws this year.

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“I think we finally have the policy right,” he said in a phone interview. “I think we have figured out a way to secure, to have border and interior security, holding the administration accountable for the enforcement … forcing the administration to enforce the law whether they want to or not. And I think we figured out a way to deal with the folks that are here in a way that is fair — fair, by the way, to those in the legal system … who are doing everything legally, and also deals with the folks that are here in a way that is fair and reasonable. And adheres, strictly adheres, to the rule of law.

“So I think we finally have the policy right. And what we’re finding is more and more people out there as they’re seeing it, different aspects of the policy, are starting to say, ‘Hey, that is something that makes sense.’”

Diaz-Balart said he thinks they’re close to a deal that can pass both chambers.

“It is as close as we have ever been. It is still a big, big, heavy lift,” he said. “I think we’re going to get there.”

I am skeptical. This skepticism is based upon the fact that all previous "compromises" have consisted of various methods to deceive those opposed to amnesty that they were getting something out of the deal, when in fact they were getting nothing.

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1 brb getting more Listerine

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 28, 2014 03:25 PM (dMSj2)

2 NO.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 28, 2014 03:25 PM (cHZB7)

3 Republicans..... snatching defeat from the Jaws of Victory.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 03:26 PM (84gbM)

4 NO! Idiots!

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 03:27 PM (gjOCp)

5 Another reason to let it burn hard and long

Posted by: Burned out at April 28, 2014 03:28 PM (NcSi2)

6 "I think we have figured out a way to secure, to have border and interior security, holding the administration accountable for the enforcement … forcing the administration to enforce the law whether they want to or not."

Really then.

And what precisely would be this magical "way" to hold the administration accountable? This notional "way" to force the administration to enforce the law?

And why the haven't we heard word one about this special "way" up until now, as this unaccountable administration has regularly refused to enforce laws?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 03:28 PM (noWW6)

7 Do these fucking traitorous pigs understand that the American people do not want this???!!!! I can deal with leftist tyrants. I understand them fully. THIS, from the party that wants our money and then ass-rapes us as thanks is INEX-FUCKING-CUSABLE. I am absolutely at my wits end with this. Really.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 28, 2014 03:28 PM (CMkNk)

8 Oh... and for the record... I have been neutral on Republicans in the past, as the lesser of the two evils... This puts them over the line with me... I will in the future actively work AGAINST both the Dems, and Repubs.... ReDemocrats?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 03:28 PM (84gbM)

9 If they agree to anything like this, party is dead. It is to me, but I mean GOP party will,kill itself off with this!

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 03:29 PM (gjOCp)

10 great idea here in AZ because we just need more illegals getting free shit.

Posted by: Guido at April 28, 2014 03:29 PM (GYg/s)

11 This legislation is clearly an act of love.

Posted by: Furious George at April 28, 2014 03:29 PM (P85Pz)

12

>>GOP Congressman: We're Almost There on an Immigration Deal

 

 

Glad to know what they've been doing with their time as the IRS persecutes us, Harry Reid slanders us and the jackboot government stomps all over our freedoms while all we get are crickets.

Posted by: rrpjr at April 28, 2014 03:30 PM (s/yC1)

13

The Amnesty that Reagan agreed to had an expiration date.

 

No one seems to remember that now.

 

This 'immigration reform' that they're talking about seems to be a form of Permanent Amnesty.

No. Just, no.

Posted by: wheatie at April 28, 2014 03:30 PM (la7X9)

14 The GOP is dead, as is our two-party system. Post-constitutional, post republican-democracy. Time for "some kind" of response.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 28, 2014 03:31 PM (CMkNk)

15 They will not stop. They no longer work for us, if they ever did. Batten down your hatches Merica Big Club, we ain't in it- G Carlin

Posted by: ginaswo at April 28, 2014 03:31 PM (VGpgb)

16 Fuck em, Fuck em,Fuck em,Fuck em,

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 28, 2014 03:31 PM (R8hU8)

17 Why don't they enforce the laws that are already on the books, as a sign of good faith? Obama has already made it clear he's not going to enforce or deport. So what's going to change?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 03:31 PM (oMKp3)

18 Who is begging for this that pays them?

Posted by: Cake Girl at April 28, 2014 03:31 PM (zOTsN)

19 Amnesty States FTW, none of this weak city stuff

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 28, 2014 03:32 PM (Dth0i)

20 "This skepticism is based upon the fact that all previous 'compromises' have consisted of various methods to deceive those opposed to amnesty that they were getting something out of the deal, when in fact they were getting nothing."

Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football. Over and over again.

Democrats reneged on every single promise they made regarding the 1986 amnesty and the "border security" that was supposed to follow. Why in the world would anyone think they would do anything different this time?

One great big California from coast to coast. America becomes a national one-party state. It'll be Venezuela writ large. Right down to the Vice Ministry Of Supreme Social Happiness and no toilet paper. That's where this is all going to end up unless the GOP return to dealing with reality.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 03:32 PM (noWW6)

21 Ok, the feathers part is easy, but I've been having a heck of a time with the tar. First off, what kind? It needs to be heated so it's the correct viscosity. It can't be too hot, we don't want it to blister. Too much. I suppose we could go green and not use a petroleum based tar, but some other kind of thing like tree pitch. I'm sort of stumped here. Then there's the wagon.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 28, 2014 03:32 PM (pgQxn)

22 “So I think we finally have the policy right. And what we’re finding is more and more people out there as they’re seeing it, different aspects of the policy, are starting to say, ‘Hey, that is something that makes sense.’” Millions of new Democrat voters. Deflect attention from the Ocare catastrophe. Legalize millions of unskilled, low-wage workers while the economy is flat-lined. Yeah, it makes PERFECT sense. I am SOOOOO done with these GOP bastards.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 28, 2014 03:32 PM (8ZskC)

23 OT : How many giant monsters are in the new Gozilla movie?


I say at least 3.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 28, 2014 03:32 PM (P1WNR)

24 Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 08:31 PM (oMKp3) All you would have to do to KILL illegal immigration in this country, is use the Social Security, and IRS databases, to enforce Identity fraud... Which IS a Felony.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 03:32 PM (84gbM)

25 This doesn't feel like love. It's feels like rape.

Posted by: L, elle at April 28, 2014 03:32 PM (p8TAe)

26 And now the poor guy’s girlfriend (undoubtedly ex-girlfriend now) is on tape cajoling him into revealing his racism. Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out. She was like a sexy nanny playing “pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.” She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.

Posted by: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar at April 28, 2014 03:33 PM (e8kgV)

27 I give the fuck up. It's over for sure.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 28, 2014 03:33 PM (Q8vlx)

28 Now if your against Immigration Treason then you are a hater, and a RAAAACIST... Hell everyone knows its wrong, but it is trending... Bushes are out landing strips are in... IYKWIM

Posted by: 7 Days in May at April 28, 2014 03:33 PM (5V+Di)

29 Dear John McCain,
 
Whatever happened to 'build the darn fence', you lying jackweasel?
 
Also, how did your date with Cankles turn out?
 
With 'friends' like this, I need a better class of enemies.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 28, 2014 03:33 PM (cHZB7)

30 IBD editorial today is that they are the Stupid & Self Destructive Party.

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 03:33 PM (gjOCp)

31 Acts of love against my will are very rape-rape

Posted by: Cake Girl at April 28, 2014 03:33 PM (zOTsN)

32 Well, that's it then.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 03:33 PM (oMKp3)

33 High school valedictorians are IN THE SHADOWS, people!!!!

Posted by: The GOPe at April 28, 2014 03:33 PM (8ZskC)

34 That "getting the policy right" phrase sounds familiar. Riiiiiiight. It was our Low Information President.

Posted by: Furious George at April 28, 2014 03:34 PM (P85Pz)

35 Off sticky sock

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 03:34 PM (zOTsN)

36 The Amnesty that Reagan agreed to had an expiration date. No one seems to remember that now. Remember what. Who? lulz.

Posted by: Idiot looking up from cell phone for split second wipes drool from chin at April 28, 2014 03:34 PM (pgQxn)

37 When they tell us that they have to pass it so we can see what's in it, then we're doomed.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 28, 2014 03:35 PM (P1WNR)

38 until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.

Posted by: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar at April 28, 2014 08:33 PM (e8kgV)


This about the Clipper owner...heard somebody say, "Why isn't she in jail for taping phone conversations?"

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 28, 2014 03:35 PM (Dth0i)

39 I think we should have a frank conversation about race

Posted by: MFM at April 28, 2014 03:35 PM (zOTsN)

40 Pro-Amnesty Rallies leading up to the 1st Week of May... You don't say?

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2014 03:36 PM (HLrkT)

41 If you Like your Citizenship, you can Keep your citizenship....

Posted by: The next promise at April 28, 2014 03:36 PM (84gbM)

42 Yeeeee-haw!!!

Posted by: Slim Pickens, Riding the Bomb Down at April 28, 2014 03:36 PM (8ZskC)

43 It will boost those Bama Care #s off da charts... from 7 million served to37 million with the stroke of a dozen pens... Now go get your fucking shine box.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at April 28, 2014 03:36 PM (5V+Di)

44 What remains is just politics as an amusing spectator sport. Theater for the internet types. The rest of it ? It's gone.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 03:37 PM (oMKp3)

45 t can't be too hot, we don't want it to blister. Too much.

Have often wondered about that.  There must be someone in the horde that can give us a historical perspective. 

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 03:37 PM (L02KD)

46 Prediction : Curb Feelers will be the Flag Lapel Pin of the 2016 Election.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2014 03:37 PM (HLrkT)

47 Let's talk about selfies and self esteem

Posted by: MFM at April 28, 2014 03:37 PM (zOTsN)

48 42 Yeeeee-haw!!! Posted by: Slim Pickens, Riding the Bomb Down at April 28, 2014 08:36 PM (8ZskC) And apparently the good General was right.... They stole our manly juices...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 03:37 PM (84gbM)

49 "And adheres, strictly adheres, to the rule of law."

How can any policy "strictly adhere to the rule of law" if instead of proceeding against those who have violated the law, it rewards them?

It's a feeling like the one Alice must have had after having fallen down the rabbit hole.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 03:38 PM (noWW6)

50 I don't believe Republicans actually want to lead or have a majority.  Establishment Republicans want the same things as Democrats - just maybe not to the same degree.  By engineering amnesty and a permanent Democrat majority (at least at the national level) they can crow about how they're bravely fighting against the Democrats while chipping at the margins of the Democrats big government schemes.


Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at April 28, 2014 03:38 PM (uhMMS)

51 GOP: Yeah, it's a bowl of shit, but we've sprinkled vitamins on it and covered it with whipped cream. And check out the cool Ronald Reagan bowl! Try it! Seriously, it hardly tastes like shit at all.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 03:38 PM (AO9UG)

52 I would pay money for somebody to get a couple of vans or large vehicles and put INS on them and roll up to some of these rallies.

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 28, 2014 03:38 PM (Dth0i)

53 Seriously. States need to start seceding or call an article V convention.

People need to get serious about this shit.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 03:38 PM (buZ/8)

54 My head is spinning. Honestly, I figured with the economy going on six years in the shitter, every single alliance we have now in shreds (how was it possible to even piss off Canada for crying out loud?!), WW3 threatened in Europe and/or Asia, part-time work the only work available, ObamaCare fuck-ups as far as the eye can see and corruption and debt on a scale previously unknown in human history that this was an election the Republicans couldn't screw up. Ok, so I was wrong. Beers on me I guess.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2014 03:38 PM (qCtp4)

55

Oh FFS.  A "Republican" incumbent actually said this? 

 

Torquewrench beat me to it (not the first time) - so what exactly is the way of "forcing the administration to enforce the law whether they want to or not."  WTF?

 

Oh - and WTF is "fairness" to illegals?  And how the F do you provide amnesty (this, is, by definition, the core of any legislation that directly changes anything affecting lawbreakers - for this, or any other existing law) that "adheres, strictly adheres, to the rule of law"?

 

Note: all the above are rhetorical questions.

 

Leave aside the race-baiting, lawlessness from all sides, and stupid irresponsible self-dealing that are the heart of this amnesty obsession (I'm leaving out the trivial element of clueless "compassionate" idiots who feel better about their ignorant selves because they'd be helping brown people), does anyone actually believe amnesty will do a damn thing apart from ensure more of the same immigration infractions? 

 

It's blazingly simple:  anything other than enforcing the law, and securing the border, constitutes incentive for further illegality.  Duh.  There's no way around this.  In Simpson-Mazzoli (the 1986 bill), at least there wasn't any pretension that amnesty would NOT be a giant magnet for additional illegality - and that's where the co-equal (and essentially disregarded, of course) elements of border security and employer enforcement came from. 

 

In a country where the monstrous idiocy of O-care is even conceivable, much less reality, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.  But amnesty will, besides all its obvious other pernicious effects, be a giant incentive to rational intending illegal immigrants (the majority) for further illegality.  I don't even see this indisputable, guaranteed outcome even mentioned.

 

 

Posted by: outlier at April 28, 2014 03:39 PM (afQnV)

56 Borders are racist!!

Posted by: Viva la Raza at April 28, 2014 03:39 PM (ZPrif)

57 Is Schlock still half way in the closet? Now you know why Chubs McCain was fapping over him a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 28, 2014 03:39 PM (8c12T)

58 This is the death knell for America if ever there was one.  I'm so disgusted, so sickened.  If this is all true and amnesty is imminent, we just need to call it quits.  We all know the millions upon millions of "act of love" illegals will tip political races in the Dems favor in dramatic fashion.  It's going to be catastrophic on so many levels.  I honestly believe it will be less than 5 years and TX will forever be blue.  As will many other states.  These politicians are nothing but traitors.  They are bound and determined to let this happen.  They're bound and determined to ruin this country in all ways possible.  Damn them all.  I'm beyond the point of anger.  I truly am. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 28, 2014 03:39 PM (tsGZY)

59 Let's talk about the dreamers giving commencement speeches.

Posted by: MFM at April 28, 2014 03:39 PM (zOTsN)

60 There are dos Americas.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2014 03:39 PM (HLrkT)

61 There have been lots of GOP millionaires made, even though they are in the minority... sitting in their Gerrymandered safe seats..

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 03:39 PM (84gbM)

62 Wow, so basically the country will be effectively dismantled in 6 years. Nice work. They get the 7th to rest.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 28, 2014 03:40 PM (pgQxn)

63 Seal the border, shoot anyone coming across as spies - as we have the right to under International Law and Custom. Start with that as a negotiating tactic instead of starting with "We have no sovereignty" like this numbskull is talking. Start hard, then compromised A BIT. Like increasing the greencards per nation by 10% while disallowing everyone caught as an illegal forever, starting in 6 months. If you get caught after October 31st, then you will never, ever be allowed back in under any circumstances. It will result in self-deportation, guaranteed by past data.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at April 28, 2014 03:40 PM (Qp0nB)

64 holding the administration accountable for the enforcement … forcing the administration to enforce the law whether they want to or not.


Snort to belly laugh to insane giggle.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 03:40 PM (XRSxm)

65 J.J. Go over the Right Scoop & there is a video of Ted Cruz speaking saying Kerry should resign over what he said about Israel.

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 03:40 PM (gjOCp)

66 Coulter is right, and Hillary will just mop up the remaining opposition.

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 03:40 PM (g/zj9)

67

Imagine there's no border

It's easy if you try.

Posted by: Your GOP at April 28, 2014 03:40 PM (jucos)

68

"Aquí está la actitud. 'Ohhhh. No me hagas hacer esto. Ohhhh. Esto es demasiado duro."   

Publicado Por: El Presidente de la Cámara de Representantes John Boehner

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 28, 2014 03:40 PM (kdS6q)

69 It's not evil if you're not deceived by the lie.

Posted by: Fritz at April 28, 2014 03:41 PM (oJUxt)

70 We sure turned into Europe fast. We have two big government parties, the native population is being deliberately replaced by immigrants, and a large segment of that native population simply no longer has representation in government.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 03:41 PM (sdi6R)

71 Posted by: outlier at April 28, 2014 08:39 PM (afQnV) Note.... all they talk about is fairness to Immigrants... How about Fairness to those born here.... who have to compete for all those low wage jobs with people who were NOT born here...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 03:41 PM (84gbM)

72 "Getting the policy right" is the perfectly meaningless metaphor for perfectly cynical and vacuous politicians. It implies some enlightened technocrat carefully and dispassionately calibrating his Wonkometer for the Greater Good of Society. Just that the Wonkometer is behind the curtain and the instructions are in a dialect of occult Wonkish, so we have to take it on faith that it's all just Good Stuff with absolutely no meaningful rationale either by science, morality, history or economics why flooding the country with more poor people from the Third World is going to be such a great thing for the USA. The last mailing I got from the GOPs was returned, empty, on their postage, with my note that when they stop advocating amnesty I will consider myself an active Republican again.

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 28, 2014 03:41 PM (3kSqR)

73 So, when this gets shoved down our throat like Obamacare, does that mean that we are officially a one party country?

/I, for one, look forward to our Alien Overlords, who can't show up soon enough for my liking, even though it might mean a life mining gold....

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at April 28, 2014 03:42 PM (25HWz)

74 The Amnesty that Reagan agreed to had an expiration date. Posted by: wheatie at April 28, 2014 08:30 PM (la7X9)
The country appears to have an expiration date.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 28, 2014 03:42 PM (XeVA7)

75 If you get a speeding ticket mostly we all just pay the fine and stop speeding. If you violate immigration law and you get a 'path to citizenship' that includes a fine, you can pay the fine or just ignore the whole thing and keep on doing what you are doing.

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 28, 2014 03:42 PM (bpBVA)

76 NOT TO BE MISSED

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Welcome to the Finger-Wagging Olympics

Posted by: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar at April 28, 2014 03:42 PM (e8kgV)

77 Oh goody! Now I won't have to pay as much to have someone make me mugs of yummy cocoa!

Posted by: Pajama Boy at April 28, 2014 03:42 PM (P85Pz)

78 Fuck this rule of law bullshit. Redneck, white bread, in-bred crackers always bitchin about the rule of law. Rule of law says we gots the law now so we makes the rules. Best you step before I put my boot up yo ass. Also, buy my records, like me on Facebook, and follow me on Twiiter! Peace out!

Posted by: Snoop Dogg at April 28, 2014 03:43 PM (ZPrif)

79 Amnesty, because why let those guys at the CDC coast for the next decade?

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2014 03:43 PM (HLrkT)

80 65 Go over the Right Scoop & there is a video of Ted Cruz speaking saying Kerry should resign over what he said about Israel. Thank God somebody said something about it. I'm starting to feel like I hallucinate this craziness every day because I hear it once and it's gone forever.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 28, 2014 03:43 PM (pgQxn)

81 “I think we have figured out a way to secure, to have border and interior security, holding the administration accountable for the enforcement … forcing the administration to enforce the law whether they want to or not.

If Obama refuses to enforce the law, the GOP leadership has made a solemn commitment to stamp their feet and hold their breath until they are blue in the face.

They will then, reluctantly, take a breath.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 28, 2014 03:43 PM (IN7k+)

82 This is the part where the Horde decides anything resembling reform is actually amnesty, revolts and then ends up with the status quo. One wonder whether those happy with the status quo somehow benefit from said status quo. After all, those proposing reform are ALWAYS accused of benefitting from reform--no matter what shape said reform takes. Perhaps the folks happy with things as they are are banging an illegal nanny. Just once could we take a look at whether there are enforceable triggers before spitting on reform?

Posted by: spongeworthy at April 28, 2014 03:44 PM (8Pg2o)

83 Meet Senator Wendy Davis

Posted by: MFM at April 28, 2014 03:44 PM (zOTsN)

84 But but but otherwise a DEMOCRAT might win!!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 28, 2014 03:44 PM (30eLQ)

85 Still think you are not a serf?

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 03:45 PM (AO9UG)

86 82 This is the part where the Horde decides anything resembling reform is actually amnesty, revolts and then ends up with the status quo. One wonder whether those happy with the status quo somehow benefit from said status quo.

After all, those proposing reform are ALWAYS accused of benefitting from reform--no matter what shape said reform takes. Perhaps the folks happy with things as they are are banging an illegal nanny.

Just once could we take a look at whether there are enforceable triggers before spitting on reform?

Posted by: spongeworthy at April 28, 2014 08:44 PM (8Pg2o)


They won't happen. They won't be enforced. From what past experience with Fedzilla makes you think that THIS time will be different?


Because I want what your smoking.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 03:46 PM (buZ/8)

87
the GOP leadership has made a solemn commitment to stamp their feet and hold their breath until they are blue in the face. They will then, reluctantly, take a breath.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous




Doubtful. The GOP could even eff up an autonomic reflex.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 28, 2014 03:46 PM (kdS6q)

88 We sure turned into Europe fast.


Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 08:41 PM (sdi6R)



Our decadence used to run 10-20 years behind Europe. Now it is a dead-heat.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 03:46 PM (XRSxm)

89 Do we really want our children's first experience in the workplace to be cutting grass or washing dishes or busing tables?  Immigration reform will ensure our children's first work experience is in a high-tech job of the future like windmill mechanic or solar panel washer.

Posted by: Mario Diaz-Balart at April 28, 2014 03:46 PM (uhMMS)

90 Fuck enforceable triggers. Obama don't have to do jackshit. Why don't you enforce my dick, white boy! .. Also got a hot new track comin' out on iTunes. Check that shit out and follow me on Instagram and Pinterest. Peace out, motherfuckers!

Posted by: Snoop Dogg at April 28, 2014 03:47 PM (ZPrif)

91 52 I would pay money for somebody to get a couple of vans or large vehicles and put INS on them and roll up to some of these rallies. Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 28, 2014 08:38 PM (Dth0i) Exactly. Hell, I was taking pictures at a school outing here in Phoenix at Pipers Pizza and everyone kept ducking their heads out of the frame. If it wasn't so fucked up it would be funny.

Posted by: Guido at April 28, 2014 03:47 PM (GYg/s)

92

“I think we have figured out a way to secure, to have border and interior security, holding the administration accountable for the enforcement"

Bullshit. If thats true, then do it NOW without tying amnesty to it.

I swear, I will crawl across broken glass to punish every Republican who pushes this con (for the 3rd time now)

Posted by: Fen at April 28, 2014 03:47 PM (cYpak)

93 Anyone in the GOP thinking about reaching out to African Americans whose job opportunities and advancement opportunities will be set back for generations by amnesty?

Posted by: Donald Sterling at April 28, 2014 03:47 PM (P85Pz)

94 82 This is the part where the Horde decides anything resembling reform is actually amnesty, revolts and then ends up with the status quo. One wonder whether those happy with the status quo somehow benefit from said status quo. After all, those proposing reform are ALWAYS accused of benefitting from reform--no matter what shape said reform takes. Perhaps the folks happy with things as they are are banging an illegal nanny. Just once could we take a look at whether there are enforceable triggers before spitting on reform? Posted by: spongeworthy at April 28, 2014 08:44 PM (8Pg2o) Reform? Is there something wrong with the law as it is now? This is not reform. It is action. They are acting to complete a plan. Wake the fuck up.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 03:47 PM (AO9UG)

95 Are they really so stupid as to do this before the election? We've known the answer for years now…

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 28, 2014 03:47 PM (AymDN)

96 You are missing the point. Elections are not about facts. They're about feelings and fantasies. You're just saying "no," over and over. No one wants to hear it, and the idea of shooting moms, dads, and able-bodied young men is such a non-starter, it's laughable if it weren't so easy for moderate dems to demonize. Reagan won because he tapped into can-do America, not damn won't.

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 03:47 PM (g/zj9)

97 Reid has been awesome about bringing conservative proposals to a vote And the JEF would never change a law with the stroke of an executive pen

Posted by: MFM at April 28, 2014 03:47 PM (zOTsN)

98 '65 Go over the Right Scoop & there is a video of Ted Cruz speaking saying Kerry should resign over what he said about Israel.

Thank God somebody said something about it. I'm starting to feel like I hallucinate this craziness every day because I hear it once and it's gone forever.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 28, 2014 08:43 PM (pgQxn)

Am I the only one that just sees this as a waste of breath? Calling Israel an apartheid state is like in the democrat platform. He's just guilty of bad timing. He should resign because he's John Kerry.

It's glorious he's; probably going to run again too... we can have a Kerry/Romney election in 2016 if Hillary stays out.

Start drinking now...

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at April 28, 2014 03:48 PM (gl2Yt)

99 Posted by: Mario Diaz-Balart at April 28, 2014 08:46 PM (uhMMS) Nope... those jobs will be filled by H1B workers from India and Pakistan...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 03:48 PM (84gbM)

100 In addition to our used to be southern border, we have the "get a student visa, fuck going to school, I'm gonna stay forever" crowd. In a few years some cities will be replacing the mayor with a Grand Mufti.

Posted by: Bill at April 28, 2014 03:49 PM (uvyrw)

101 I know I said it before, but this just because the House (and Senate) class of 2015 will be so much more conservative that there is no way they'd even be able to entertain amnesty. Even trying it in the lame duck session would be too radioactive. Alex Sink spoke for the GOP money men as well as the entire Democrat party: They want their housekeepers and gardeners at slave wages. The Left used to call that kind of thing "exploitation".

Posted by: AmishDude at April 28, 2014 03:49 PM (T0NGe)

102 No one wants to hear it, and the idea of shooting moms, dads, and able-bodied young men is such a non-starter, it's laughable if it weren't so easy for moderate dems to demonize. Reagan won because he tapped into can-do America, not damn won't. Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 08:47 PM (g/zj9) Ow!

Posted by: a straw man at April 28, 2014 03:49 PM (30eLQ)

103 This is the part where the Horde decides anything resembling reform is actually amnesty, revolts and then ends up with the status quo. Comprehensive reform has always failed. Always. If you tie amnesty to border security, you get no security and in twenty years, twice as many illegals who need amnesty again. The borders need to be secured. The 'workers already here' is a separate issue, where business want wage slaves and Democrats want voters.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 03:49 PM (uhAkr)

104 Wowwwww... Someone must have put some money into the Astroturf campaign.... Lots of "concern' posts....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 03:49 PM (84gbM)

105 29 Dear John McCain, Whatever happened to 'build the darn fence', you lying jackweasel? Also, how did your date with Cankles turn out? With 'friends' like this, I need a better class of enemies. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 28, 2014 08:33 PM (cHZB7) Remember, this is a guy who's last batch of nut juice gave us Meghan McCain. And that sperm was the best of that bunch. His best days were when he arrived back in the US from VietNam.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 28, 2014 03:49 PM (HxSXm)

106 Just once could we take a look at whether there are enforceable triggers before spitting on reform?

Posted by: spongeworthy at April 28, 2014 08:44 PM (8Pg2o)

what are we? chopped liver?

Posted by: Countless laws on the books completely ignored at April 28, 2014 03:50 PM (Dth0i)

107

Oh, and there is a "magic" way of forcing an executive to enforce the laws (i.e., to uphold his presidential oath).  $$$$$$.  Power of the purse.

 

But the GOP, since 2008, has not only refused to even consider this central power of the Congress - especially of the House, GOP-controlled since 2010 - but has gone along with budget-less governance by CR (from an astounding, disastrously elevated base figure).

 

One of the only times that the congressional GOP even unsheathed this vital sword - the "shutdown" - it folded easily, after its numerous weak and stupid members began attacking the only people willing to do or say something.  While the administration - outdoing its already barely believable self in terms of politically disastrous arrogant misbehavior - was blocking elderly WWII vets from their memorial, and harassing visitors to national parks.

 

 

Posted by: outlier at April 28, 2014 03:50 PM (afQnV)

108 I am skeptical. This skepticism is based upon the fact that all previous "compromises" have consisted of various methods to deceive those opposed to amnesty that they were getting something out of the deal, when in fact they were getting nothing. THIS^^^^^ If they pass this or any form of amnesty, I'm out. And since they will have betrayed their voters and stabbed us in the back, I will actively work against the Republican Party in all future elections. They will have have killed the country I love with treachery and that's the least I can do. I am dead serious about this. No amnesty. Total repeal of Obamacare. Fracking and nuclear energy. Cut spending Stop anti-middle class policies Promote pro-middle class policies Go after the Democrats hammer and tong. Do these things and you can win and win big in 2014 and 2016.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 28, 2014 03:50 PM (KBvAm)

109 96 You are missing the point. Elections are not about facts. They're about feelings and fantasies. You're just saying "no," over and over. No one wants to hear it, and the idea of shooting moms, dads, and able-bodied young men is such a non-starter, it's laughable if it weren't so easy for moderate dems to demonize. Reagan won because he tapped into can-do America, not damn won't. Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 08:47 PM (g/zj9) Cyberdyne Concern Troll Model 101

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 03:50 PM (AO9UG)

110 "Just once could we take a look at whether there are enforceable triggers before spitting on reform?"

How about we don't. The current immigration laws and lack of enforcement by this administration is preferable to any backroom deal being hammered out.
You know how I know? Because the actual citizens of this country might be a little peeved when they see a lot of illegals in their cities and towns but all things considered they don't really give a shit, yet the politicians think this is some major crisis that needs immediate attention.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 28, 2014 03:50 PM (IV4od)

111 In before the deluded come in preaching that we have to work within the system.

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 03:51 PM (t5lML)

112 ha

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 03:51 PM (g/zj9)

113 The sky is falling!

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (g/zj9)

114 51 GOP: Yeah, it's a bowl of shit, but we've sprinkled vitamins on it and covered it with whipped cream. And check out the cool Ronald Reagan bowl! Try it! Seriously, it hardly tastes like shit at all. Mmmm. Nutty.

Posted by: krakatoa powers at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (/7bUT)

115 The borders need to be secured. The 'workers already here' is a separate issue, where business want wage slaves and Democrats want voters.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 08:49 PM (uhAkr)


Couple million fine for every illegal employed should take care of a few of em

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (Dth0i)

116 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 28, 2014 08:28 PM (CMkNk) Sometimes I email my Rep and just send him a link to an AoSHQ thread like this, so he can see what the base is really thinking.

Posted by: whoever at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (pjMym)

117 The day they pass amnesty, do you think they'll crucify Bundy and his family for daring to trespass on federal land?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (uhAkr)

118 Think of all the new ethnic restaurants we can try!

Posted by: Hipster Douchebag at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (P85Pz)

119 This is the imperial president. It's silly to think there will be enforcement

Posted by: MFM at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (zOTsN)

120 The 'renewed' interest and the 'protests' I wonder how many 'legal' US citizens attended these amnesty protests.

Posted by: bobbymike at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (hY7Vw)

121 Holy shit, I guess I was too late.  I suppose #111 is a bit late for "our betters" to remind us how stupid we all are for not continuing to believe pure bullshit.

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 03:52 PM (t5lML)

122 So Silicon Valley must be banging the drum hard and fast in their quest for MOAR H1B visa serfs Guess I can look forward to another layoff in our household But sure take out student loans to get the good STRM jobs these politicians are always shining the yutes about

Posted by: ginaswo at April 28, 2014 03:53 PM (VGpgb)

123 The sky is falling!

--

Yeah!  Why worry? 

Posted by: California at April 28, 2014 03:53 PM (tsGZY)

124 Clutch Cargo, I go there only to listen or watch highlights, I don't comment because they use DISCUS & I don't like it. Levin looks like he's pissed off about something, but I watched Cruz first.

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 03:53 PM (gjOCp)

125 65 J.J. Go over the Right Scoop & there is a video of Ted Cruz speaking saying Kerry should resign over what he said about Israel. Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 08:40 PM (gjOCp) Thanks. Actually, I'm off to an early bed. I've had it for today.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 28, 2014 03:53 PM (CMkNk)

126 Tractor Supply has pine tar. 

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 03:54 PM (L02KD)

127 500 busses each carrying 50 people can deport 7.5 million people in 300 days.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 03:54 PM (AO9UG)

128 I backed Goldwater and I supported Nixon against the red rat bastards, but Reagan made me believe in the party. It's death is a sad thing to watch.

Posted by: toby928 at April 28, 2014 03:54 PM (QupBk)

129 Yeah, that's what we want. Artisanal amnesty. Just like we want artisanal socialized healthcare.

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 03:54 PM (g/zj9)

130 Think of all the new ethnic restaurants we can try! Have you tried the new Irian Jaya restaurant? Watch out for the Rockefeller though. I only got two oysters and they were still in the sack

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 28, 2014 03:54 PM (30eLQ)

131 @94 I agree The whole "reform" thing is another piece of Manchurian focused group propaganda, couching the entire immigration debate as to what degree we, the citizens of the United States, must make it easier for people to come en masse and stay here forever. There was nothing "broken" about the immigration system until the powers that be decided to stop enforcing the law. If you want more guest workers on a seasonable basis for big Agriculture, we can take a look at that, provided that they go home at the end of the season, and immigration in the sense of permanent immigration is based first and foremost on the needs of this country.

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 28, 2014 03:55 PM (3kSqR)

132 Kerry's apartheid statement denounced by, wait for it, Barbara Boxer.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 03:55 PM (oMKp3)

133 Just once could we take a look at whether there are enforceable triggers before spitting on reform? Posted by: spongeworthy at April 28, 2014 08:44 PM (8Pg2o) Because we've played that game before.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 28, 2014 03:55 PM (T0NGe)

134 Spongeworthy, The President is on record as well as the Attorney General in never enforcing laws they personally do not like. This is tyranny, not some debating point. The government is lawless and tyrannical, and you go blathering on about "enforceable triggers"? That makes no sense. It makes as much sense as debating whether or not the "agreement" would be printed on 18 pound or 20 pound paper - meaningless trivia that changes nothing. An "enforceable trigger" is as meaningful as a dog fart. It would change zero behavior in this worthless regime and cause no action for anyone anywhere. Your talking about what shape balloon animals are going to be handed out at the party and whether or not that would prevent the President from flapping his arms and declaring himself king bird man. You. Are. Insane.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at April 28, 2014 03:55 PM (Qp0nB)

135 Christians are stacking the deck!

Posted by: What the concerned should be concerned about at April 28, 2014 03:55 PM (wu/TK)

136 As soon as those do-nothing Republicans in Congress will work with me to codify into law a set of principals outlining America's immigration policy - something we don't have today - I will vigorously enforce those laws.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 28, 2014 03:56 PM (uhMMS)

137 And clearly, this showcases the trouble with our government. I don't hear anybody talking about amnesty. I hear people talking about the lousy job market and economy. Washington lives inside a bubble where the most pressing issue is importing slave worker/voters with third world values. They'll be happy with a few copper coins and promises of help from papa government.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 03:56 PM (uhAkr)

138 107
Oh, and there is a "magic" way of forcing an executive to enforce the laws (i.e., to uphold his presidential oath). $$$$$$. Power of the purse.

But the GOP, since 2008, has not only refused to even consider this central power of the Congress - especially of the House, GOP-controlled since 2010 - but has gone along with budget-less governance by CR (from an astounding, disastrously elevated base figure).

One of the only times that the congressional GOP even unsheathed this vital sword - the "shutdown" - it folded easily, after its numerous weak and stupid members began attacking the only people willing to do or say something. While the administration - outdoing its already barely believable self in terms of politically disastrous arrogant misbehavior - was blocking elderly WWII vets from their memorial, and harassing visitors to national parks.

Posted by: outlier at April 28, 2014 08:50 PM (afQnV)


Well there is one weak and stupid member going down. Michael Grimm, who couldn't keep his mouth shut during the shutdown and firmly in the pete king wing of the house republicans. Hope more of those corrupt assholes go next.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 03:56 PM (buZ/8)

139 Can you say Guatemalan-Pakistani fusion cuisine?

Posted by: Hipster Douchebag at April 28, 2014 03:57 PM (P85Pz)

140 "recent comments from Speaker John A. Boehner [have given encouragement to amnesty proponents]"

Boehner's parents owned a bar in Ohio, and Agent Orange worked there for a couple of years. What a great place that must have been to hang out in.

::: customer walks in, bellies up to the bar :::

::: JB behind bar eyes customer suspiciously :::

::: several minutes pass :::

Customer: "Hi, welcome to Boehner's! What'll it be?"

JB: "Huh? What the fuck?"

Customer: "Um, actually, you're supposed to say that to me. It's kind of a tradition for people running these kinds of establishments to welcome patrons and ask what they are having."

JB: "We do things our way here."

::: uncomfortable pause :::

Customer: "OK then. So how about a scotch on the rocks to start, a back of draft beer, and some buffalo wings with ranch dressing."

JB: "Whatever."

::: 45 minutes later :::

Customer: "Y'all having a problem in the kitchen today?"

JB: "Huh? What do you want?"

Customer: "My food. I ordered food. I ordered drinks too. Where are those?"

JB: "It's coming. What do you think you are, royalty or something?"

Customer: "No, I'm hungry. And thirsty. How about those drinks?"

::: drinks and food finally arrive :::

::: customer waves at JB :::

JB: "Here's your check."

Customer: "Hold on. I ordered scotch on the rocks and a draft beer. And wings. This is bourbon neat, shitty Skid Row bourbon too. And someone else's left behind beer in an open bottle with lipstick on the rim. And some fries that I'm going to report to the Egyptian Antiquities Board because they look like they sat in a tomb in a pyramid for 3000 years."

::: JB shrugs :::

Customer: "And this check is ridiculous. You added a bunch of stuff I didn't order, and you padded my tab, and you stuck in the special service charge for a party of six. Do you see five other people here with me?"

JB: "Listen, you punk. Do you know how hard I work? This is my joint and it runs by my rules. Get your ass out of here."

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 03:57 PM (noWW6)

141 Not only Boxer: Fellow Democrat Nita Lowey of New York, ranking member on the House Appropriations Committee, also spoke out on Twitter against the comments, saying: “Inflammatory rhetoric comparing Israel’s democracy to repugnant apartheid policy is irresponsible, inaccurate & counterproductive.”

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 03:57 PM (oMKp3)

142 Nope... those jobs will be filled by H1B workers from India and Pakistan... Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 08:48 PM (84gbM) It's hard for American kids to compete with kids who get a world-class education, one that doesn't allow for fluff but funnels people into the hard sciences and one that doesn't accumulate any debt.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 28, 2014 03:57 PM (T0NGe)

143 And based on victor d Hanson piece Two California's there is PLENTY of the farm labor formerly known as 'seasonal' conspicuously not working all over Cali so Ag workers are avail already

Posted by: ginaswo at April 28, 2014 03:58 PM (VGpgb)

144 We can't trust elites, whatever their stripes, and we have a credulous ill-informed electorate who prefer symbol to substance. I love Cruz, but this doesn't look like his country anymore.

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 03:58 PM (g/zj9)

145 It's sort of amusing and distressing watching so many Republicans trying to out liberal the liberals... as if that has EVAH worked in our favor.

Posted by: Daniel at April 28, 2014 03:59 PM (xTgSv)

146 This sure has been a crappy headline day here at the HQ.  Pretty stinking depressing.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 28, 2014 04:00 PM (tsGZY)

147 Sensing word salad.

Posted by: Separate but Stupid at April 28, 2014 04:00 PM (ZPrif)

148 >>>Think of all the new ethnic restaurants we can try! <<<

Who ordered the vegetable curry with a side of tuberculosis?

Posted by: Fritz at April 28, 2014 04:00 PM (oJUxt)

149 One great big California from coast to coast. America becomes a national one-party state. It'll be Venezuela writ large. Right down to the Vice Ministry Of Supreme Social Happiness and no toilet paper. That's where this is all going to end up unless the GOP return to dealing with reality. --- We will get there eventually. Amnesty just makes it happen faster by throwing open the doors and rolling out the red carpet for the invading colonists.

Posted by: whoever at April 28, 2014 04:00 PM (pjMym)

150 It's kinda hard for me to see how John "Friend of the Farmer" Kerry can negotiate with Israel at this point.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:00 PM (uhAkr)

151 I cannot for the life of me understand why no Pubbies are courting Americans for their vote. What's this fascination with non-Americans? When did anyone else start having any kind of voice in our affairs? I remember TFG bleating about what "the rest of world" didn't like about us. You know what? Fuck the rest of the world. Let us live the way we want, in peace. We should be leading the way to freedom and prosperity, not bowing down to a world that's mired in oppression.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 04:00 PM (0HooB)

152 Obamacare, the only major gov't program that started unpopular and has become less popular since. The GOP's stance: Unrepealable.


Illegal immigration, one of those few issues where the nation overwhelmingly supports the conservative position. The GOP's stance: Amnesty!


It's almost like these fuckers don't want to win...

Posted by: mugiwara at April 28, 2014 04:00 PM (3a584)

153 This country needs an enema.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 28, 2014 04:01 PM (P1WNR)

154 It's hard for American kids to compete with kids who get a world-class education, one that doesn't allow for fluff but funnels people into the hard sciences and one that doesn't accumulate any debt. Yea, but when you need someone to put a condom on a cucumber.....you will turned to an American educated kid. And then you will thank a teacher.

Posted by: Some Teacher's Union Somewhere at April 28, 2014 04:01 PM (OWjjx)

155 An "enforceable trigger" is as meaningful as a dog fart. It would change zero behavior in this worthless regime and cause no action for anyone anywhere. I heard a podcast interview that was recorded a few weeks ago with, of all people, Marco Rubio, who said that reform probably wouldn't happen because Obama couldn't be trusted to enforce the law.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 28, 2014 04:01 PM (T0NGe)

156 145 It's sort of amusing and distressing watching so many Republicans trying to out liberal the liberals... as if that has EVAH worked in our favor. Posted by: Daniel ________________________ (Clears throat.)

Posted by: Nixon's EPA at April 28, 2014 04:01 PM (P85Pz)

157 Levin called Kerry an anti Semite! Kerry is a jackass, my mother saw through him ten years ago when her Alzheimer's was getting worse. WTF is wrong with everyone else if an elderly lady with Alzheimer's onset is brighter than 51% of the electorate?

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 04:01 PM (gjOCp)

158 That's where this is all going to end up unless the GOP return to dealing with reality. The GOPe will always have luxuries available, so they don't care.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:01 PM (uhAkr)

159 The politicians and their masters want the votes, the cheap labor, and new numbers to throw into the entitlement calculations. This plan has been in operation for decades and the planners are ready to bring it to completion. To them we are insects.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 04:02 PM (AO9UG)

160 Don't all you whiners know that the GOP has a PLAN?!!! We have to let in those Natural Conservatives or the Hispanics here waiting for their legal papers will vote Dem! We have to get 60 seats to give you anything, and to get those 60 seats we have to behave like Democrats It'll be YOUR fault for not being team players when Hillary jacks the corporate tax rate up to 70 percent!!

Posted by: Team GOPe Cheerleading Team, Need 60 Seats for Elbows at April 28, 2014 04:03 PM (aTXUx)

161 Another thing: It seems like every racial and ethnic group in the world has a "native homeland" with the exception of white people. European countries are importing Muslims as fast as they can. Christian churches are being converted to mosques. Any white native of those countries who complains is labeled a racist. In the U.S., we're constantly being told that whites will no longer be the majority by mid-century, as if it is an inevitable fact of nature. But it is not inevitable; it is deliberate policy. Likewise, any white American who complains is labeled a racist. When all is said and done, will there be any country left on Earth that has a white majority? Russia, maybe? In both Europe and the U.S., the politicians who are imposing these policies are themselves white. Why are they doing this? What is their desired endgame?

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 04:03 PM (sdi6R)

162 Can you say Guatemalan-Pakistani fusion cuisine? How about Achmed's Kosher Sushi Emporium?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 04:04 PM (0HooB)

163 torquewrench : excellent work. Although, I would swap out the "Egyptian antiquities board" with "the Peruvian antiquities board" on account of the origins of the potatoe.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 28, 2014 04:04 PM (30eLQ)

164 It sucks to take the red pill, doesn't it?

This is reality.  And it's completely different than everything you'd been taught to believe.

The rule of law was a smokescreen.

I read that 3000 people renounced their citizenship last year.  Up 221%.

Is that what our forebears died to protect?

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 04:04 PM (t5lML)

165 And this crapfest Zerocare is hated, but this GOP gal says eh, all it needs is a little tweak here and there. Your children as serfs are of no concern.

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 04:04 PM (g/zj9)

166 They really do want to go the way of the Whig Party don't they. Death Wish V

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 28, 2014 04:04 PM (HVff2)

167 Tupelo and Brandon MS tornadoes.  Leake County got hit by one.  Another skirted the Nissan plant in Madison.

http://www.wapt.com/weather/live-severe-weather-threat/25698758

Looks like the threat to me passed safely to the north of me.  But got plenty of wind and rain.  And the sky turned a sepia color.  Had a power fluctuation at house.  Right now it is still raining and got thunder booming.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 28, 2014 04:04 PM (SHnHe)

168 God this shit is depressing. Everyday it is something new and awful.

Posted by: Dan at April 28, 2014 04:05 PM (COpZ4)

169 Diaz-Balart said he thinks they’re close to a deal that can pass both chambers. These guys really, really want to remain a minority party. Forever, it seems.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 28, 2014 04:05 PM (jOKH1)

170 20% of American families have no one in the household working.  20%.  How long can this continue before the whole thing comes crashing down?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 28, 2014 04:05 PM (jucos)

171 rickl: Endgame: Brazil. They want an insulated connected class and lots of serfs. But with lots of pious talk about how they are post-racial. We'll not talk about the favelas, nor about the prisons now basically run by the prisoners.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 28, 2014 04:05 PM (30eLQ)

172  We keep saying this is not in the best interests of the country, which implies that our Repub Reps give a shit about the United States.  I submit that they don't.  If Boehner were to lose his speakership or even his seat in Congress then it's off to K street and living large on a seven figure payday.  They are committing treason.

Posted by: dan in michigan at April 28, 2014 04:05 PM (dTZkc)

173 Let's follow mexicos immigration policies. That can't be racist

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:06 PM (zOTsN)

174 It's almost like these fuckers don't want to win... Posted by: mugiwara at April 28, 2014 09:00 PM (3a584) They are afraid that the 2014 wave will be too big. And they'll never be able to do amnesty afterwards. Everybody knows the GOP is favored to pick up a huge number of seats. If you really wanted to do something, you'd wait until you had leverage.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 28, 2014 04:06 PM (T0NGe)

175 Whelp, just had a 9-year CFL bulb go out. I had it for a year. Best twelve dollars I've ever spent. The GOP sponsored the bill to ban the incandescent light bulb. Representative Upton did that. You know those stupid CFL lightbulbs that suck and are expensive? Yeah, the GOP gave us those. They cried crocodile tears after they passed the law, of course. But they still passed it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:06 PM (uhAkr)

176 It sucks to take the red pill, doesn't it? Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 09:04 PM (t5lML) Oops! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzRUs8I9f64

Posted by: The Blue Pill at April 28, 2014 04:06 PM (AymDN)

177 I wonder how The Dreamers feel about making sure we have a strong military ? I wonder how they feel about standing with Israel? I wonder what their stance is on smaller government? I wonder how they'll vote on lowering taxes?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 04:06 PM (oMKp3)

178 @162 How about Achmed's Kosher Sushi Emporium? Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit ________________ I refuse to go there. One of the owners is a Jooooooo who supports apartheid. I'm headed to a free concert to protest apartheid in Israel.

Posted by: Hipster Douchebag at April 28, 2014 04:07 PM (P85Pz)

179 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 28, 2014 09:04 PM (SHnHe)

Start the generator, duck and cover.  Glad you are safe and still even got internet.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 04:07 PM (L02KD)

180 Well, I certainly won't oppose a good immigration reform plan, if they can come up with one.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 04:07 PM (TF/YA)

181 In both Europe and the U.S., the politicians who are imposing these policies are themselves white. Why are they doing this? What is their desired endgame?

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 09:03 PM (sdi6R)


I think you already know.  It's obvious when you put the pieces together.  Mark Steyn covers this well.

It does seemingly go against their self-interest, one would think.  Unless they've been convinced that they are not part of the population due to be eliminated.


Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 04:08 PM (t5lML)

182 Yep, been saying this a while. Future of America is Brazil with Nukes. Plus an asian overclass, which Brazil has to a degree. But America will have a much larger one.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 04:08 PM (ZPrif)

183 Yay ! You're back ! Safe !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 28, 2014 04:08 PM (Ra/a8)

184 It's six months before the election. We shall see all the amnesty assholes reveal themselves for what they truly are. It's 2007 all over again.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 04:08 PM (AO9UG)

185 Who the fuck are you new guy? AstroTurf fucktoid

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:08 PM (zOTsN)

186
I'm thinking it would be a logical to start becoming a taker, right?  I'm gonna have to figure out how to get some sweet sweet govt bennies while taking cash under the table.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 28, 2014 04:08 PM (hJauc)

187 Republican definition of Compromise: We give the Dems everything they want, and get pocket lint in return.

Posted by: Roadrunner at April 28, 2014 04:09 PM (xMSfj)

188 My friendsh, you have nothing to fear from your landscaper's son who belongs to MS-13

Posted by: Juan McCain at April 28, 2014 04:09 PM (aTXUx)

189 I want someone who wants to rebuild what made America great, not someone who wants to put lipstick on a pig.

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 04:10 PM (g/zj9)

190 Republican definition of Compromise: We give the Dems everything they want, and get pocket lint in return. let them rape you while we count our money. Corrected for accuracy.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:10 PM (uhAkr)

191 AnnaPuma Glad you're safe and sound Prayers to those in the path

Posted by: ginaswo at April 28, 2014 04:10 PM (VGpgb)

192 That can't be possible. All the experts and politicians said that once we banned the old bulbs that economies of scale would make the new expensive bulbs much cheaper! So it can't possibly be true that the expensive bulbs that don't last as long as the experts say are still expensive. I'm sure they'll lower prices now that we are forced by law to buy their product.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 04:10 PM (ZPrif)

193 Republican definition of Compromise: We give the Dems everything they want, and get pocket lint in return. Posted by: Roadrunner at April 28, 2014 09:09 PM (xMSfj) And then they tax the lint…

Posted by: The Taxable Hat at April 28, 2014 04:11 PM (AymDN)

194 Why is the Chamber of Commerce and other members of the donor class behind this?  These are just poor, low skill workers who mow lawns and vacuum your hotel rooms.  No way they could ever aspire to other tyes of work, right?  Oh wait, now that it's legal to hire them, why not put them in the next teir of jobs that has traditionally paid more?  Sure, it screws the up and coming group that has chosen to work instead of live on the government dole, but it adds to the donor class's bottom line.  That's why they are behind it.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 28, 2014 04:12 PM (8FyP4)

195 189 I want someone who wants to rebuild what made America great, not someone who wants to put lipstick on a pig. Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 09:10 PM (g/zj9) Troll quality is not job one, I see.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 04:12 PM (AO9UG)

196 Be careful of how you dispose of that CFL bulb that the Republican Party forced you to buy.

Posted by: Nixon's EPA at April 28, 2014 04:12 PM (P85Pz)

197 This is so fucking awesome.

I think I'm going back into no-news world.  I was much happier there.

Posted by: DangerGirl, who is tired at April 28, 2014 04:12 PM (GrtrJ)

198 Astro turf identity guide Say you are conservative Say you are concerned In some instances even say you are a conservative Use a first name and initial as a nic Advocate for the dems

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:12 PM (zOTsN)

199 All the experts and politicians said that once we banned the old bulbs that economies of scale would make the new expensive bulbs much cheaper!

It will eventually.  But I got so many stashed here I may never buy another bulb in my lifetime.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 04:12 PM (L02KD)

200 "a rash of immigration rallies and protests across the nation in recent days"

Really?  I must have missed those.  Pretty amazing, since the Media tends to harp on these things quite a bit, since it helps Democrats.  I wonder what the Media were reporting on when the US developed this rash?

Posted by: Null at April 28, 2014 04:13 PM (xjpRj)

201 I don't have a single CFL bulb in my home, and I never intend to buy one

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 04:13 PM (oMKp3)

202 It's not logical to become a taker. Being a taker is actually bad for you. It's unhealthy, physically and spiritually.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 04:13 PM (TF/YA)

203 Now WAPT is talking of a possible tornado south and east of me moving towards Burns.

Geez going to be a long night for a lot of people.  Brandon EOC has asked the media not to go into Brandon as they sort things out from the tornado.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 28, 2014 04:13 PM (SHnHe)

204 Did ya ever get the feeling its Ground Hog Day all over again with these Republicans?

Posted by: Andy Rooney at April 28, 2014 04:14 PM (+kznc)

205 Our children will have to learn to live in a white-minority country where a large plurality of the people do not speak their language and do not honor their culture or values.

Posted by: whoever at April 28, 2014 04:14 PM (pjMym)

206 I think I'm going back into no-news world. I was much happier there. I'm about to join you. Surprisingly, this turd doesn't seem to have a clean end.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 04:14 PM (0HooB)

207 201 I don't have a single CFL bulb in my home, and I never intend to buy one Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 09:13 PM (oMKp3) Same here. In a true Republic Congress can not ban incandescent light bulbs.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 04:14 PM (AO9UG)

208 174 It's almost like these fuckers don't want to win...
Posted by: mugiwara at April 28, 2014 09:00 PM (3a584)


They are afraid that the 2014 wave will be too big.

And they'll never be able to do amnesty afterwards.

Everybody knows the GOP is favored to pick up a huge number of seats. If you really wanted to do something, you'd wait until you had leverage.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 28, 2014 09:06 PM (T0NGe)


I think that is EXACTLY what they are thinking now. I always thought they would wait until the lame duck to pass a shit sandwhich.


But as per normal GOP protocol, it will blow up in their faces and they will probably lose more seats this year.


Nothing will surprise me anymore about the GOP. They are the dumbest people I have ever witnessed.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 04:14 PM (buZ/8)

209 Being a taker is bad for the state. We must support the state. All hail the state

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:14 PM (zOTsN)

210 Why do Republicans keep serving us Kaboom?

Posted by: MJ at April 28, 2014 04:15 PM (oari7)

211 We won in 2007 by calling, they listened then! Now they don't care, we have to find new reps, except for the few outstanding members. Out with all! Being a congressman was supposed to be a man from area, now most stay in DC all the time. Someone needs to remind them they work for US!

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 04:15 PM (gjOCp)

212 fukkin sweet! We'll get 3 outta 10 votes from ournew hispanic countrymen, who don't speak Inglez...

Posted by: Zip74 at April 28, 2014 04:15 PM (szb0P)

213 American politicians putting a gun to America's temple But I'm supposed to get all excited over who gets to pull the trigger Yay, Team

Posted by: kbdabear at April 28, 2014 04:15 PM (aTXUx)

214 You have nothing to fear from abject chaos, my friendsh!

Posted by: Seor Juan McCain at April 28, 2014 04:15 PM (Dwehj)

215

I became addicted to watching House of Cards when I effed my ankle up a couple months ago.  I am telling you that show is pretty close to the mark.  There are no guiding principles for politicians other than power and self-preservation.   What's right and your constituency are meaningless when they get in the way of your own personal path to power.  Their beliefs and values and causes are simply a means to an end.  Nothing more.

Posted by: keena at April 28, 2014 04:16 PM (RiTnx)

216 Our children will have to learn to live in a white-minority country where a large plurality of the people do not speak their language and do not honor their culture or values. And where all the other groups are told that all of their problems are because of our children. It's a recipe for tolerance (at least, the leftist version of tolerance).

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:16 PM (uhAkr)

217 198 Astro turf identity guide


Say you are conservative

Say you are concerned

In some instances even say you are a conservative

Use a first name and initial as a nic

Advocate for the dems

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 09:12 PM (zOTsN)


What about them saying they are a severe conservative?

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 04:16 PM (buZ/8)

218 I spent last weekend reading Arabic poetry. It was refreshingly pre-Islamic: nothing but wine, women, and song (and the occasional tribal dustup - there being quite a lot of dust to up, over in Arabia). I even missed the book thread for it. Maybe I should just read more of it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 28, 2014 04:17 PM (30eLQ)

219 Politicians lie. Even when they say they're for something. Don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do. Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 04:17 PM (TF/YA)

220 Ted Cruz on Kelly file now.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 28, 2014 04:17 PM (ojnk6)

221 "The GOP sponsored the bill to ban the incandescent light bulb. Representative Upton did that. You know those stupid CFL lightbulbs that suck and are expensive? Yeah, the GOP gave us those."

And signed into law by President George W. Bush.

Wonder what area of our lives President Jeb! will get around to interfering with.

Probably banning us from taking a dump on alternate days. For the sake of the planet, you understand.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 04:17 PM (noWW6)

222 201
I don't have a single CFL bulb in my home, and I never intend to buy one

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 09:13 PM (oMKp3)


I am trying a couple of LED bulbs in our kitchen, lighting is much better, we shall see on life expectancy.

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 28, 2014 04:17 PM (Dth0i)

223 I think I'm going back into no-news world. I was much happier there. Posted by: DangerGirl, who is tired at April 28, 2014 09:12 PM (GrtrJ) I find myself spending more time there myself. Baseball talk and looking at pictures of boobs

Posted by: kbdabear at April 28, 2014 04:18 PM (aTXUx)

224 NW Conservative, See what I wrote what IBD called them today.

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 04:18 PM (gjOCp)

225 I'm now a Weather Nation kinda guy. After Direct TV ky-bosched the Weather Channel for a few months. Weather Nation, Direct TV #361, more weather and better weather bunnies. Moron win, win DTV#361, check it

Posted by: Zip74 at April 28, 2014 04:18 PM (szb0P)

226 WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Pentagon says Russia's defense chief has assured Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel that Russia will not invade Ukraine.

Hagel spoke by phone Monday with his Russian counterpart, and afterward Hagel's press secretary, Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby, issued a statement saying the two men had discussed the crisis in Ukraine.

Kirby said Hagel requested clarification of Russia's intentions in eastern Ukraine, and the Russian defense minister, Sergei Shoygu (sayr-gay shoy-goo), reassured Hagel that Russian forces will not invade.


... and take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese.

Posted by: Kent Dorfman at April 28, 2014 04:18 PM (e8kgV)

227 We already have, and have always had, a "path to citizenship." It's the same one millions of people, including my mother who became a naturalized citizen in 1983, have followed for decades. It's called fill out the proper applications and wait in line. Here's a compromise that I feel is actually a generous concession to the pro-amnesty crowd. Go home, start the process to emigrate here, and we won't hold your prior illegal entry into the United States against you in your application.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at April 28, 2014 04:18 PM (MSrqi)

228 "I don't have a single CFL bulb in my home, and I never intend to buy one"

I was at Wal-Mart a couple of weeks ago and as I was matriculating toward the checkout line passed a display with 4-packs of 40 and 60 watt bulbs marked down to $1.00 each.  I grabbed ~$20 worth.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 28, 2014 04:18 PM (uhMMS)

229 They don't even buy us dinner before they roofie us.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2014 04:19 PM (hFL/3)

230 222 201


I don't have a single CFL bulb in my home, and I never intend to buy one

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 09:13 PM (oMKp3)

I am trying a couple of LED bulbs in our kitchen, lighting is much better, we shall see on life expectancy.

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 28, 2014 09:17 PM (Dth0i)


I have had LED bulbs for over four years and on for 4-6 hours a day in our kitchen. None have gone out, great light.


But god they are expensive.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 04:19 PM (buZ/8)

231 Probably banning us from taking a dump on alternate days. For the sake of the planet, you understand.

And one sheet of toilet paper. One.

Posted by: Sheryl Blow at April 28, 2014 04:19 PM (Dwehj)

232 As if King Put would step foot in a Wal-Mart outside of a campaign appearance...

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at April 28, 2014 04:19 PM (uhMMS)

233 "Surprisingly, this turd doesn't seem to have a clean end."

They say you can't polish a turd.

But we're smarter than that!

We've just installed a new super high speed polishing machine.

That's sure to get the sucker gleaming like a Fifties chrome bumper!

Posted by: Your Betters in the GOP at April 28, 2014 04:20 PM (noWW6)

234 Why are they doing this? What is their desired endgame?

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 09:03 PM (sdi6R)



The doers of evil are often unaware of their perfidy.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 04:20 PM (XRSxm)

235 This will be the Republicans' Waterloo obamacare. Agree or agree?

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 04:20 PM (j4y5j)

236 But god they are expensive.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 09:19 PM (buZ/


I really hmmd and hawed over that one too...my sister in law went all in and changed out all the bulbs in the house...ouch

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at April 28, 2014 04:21 PM (Dth0i)

237 224 NW Conservative,
See what I wrote what IBD called them today.

Posted by: Carol at April 28, 2014 09:18 PM (gjOCp)


What do you mean?

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 04:21 PM (buZ/8)

238 For a good time call 606-4311;
Ask for "Ken."

Posted by: Liz Warren For-ks America at April 28, 2014 04:21 PM (e8kgV)

239 Am I allowed to call Mr. Boehner a 'dickhead'?

Posted by: alwyr at April 28, 2014 04:21 PM (V0j3u)

240 The important thing is that full blood Spaniard Conquistador-Americans are eligible for Affirmative Action! White people are so racist!

Posted by: Hernando Cortez at April 28, 2014 04:21 PM (ZPrif)

241 I've lived in my current home for 14 years, and have real light bulbs everywhere. I've never once in 14 years had to change the light bulbs in either one of my hallways. That's gotten to be some kind of record, no? 14 years?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 04:21 PM (oMKp3)

242 Embrace the suckage that I have wrought!

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 28, 2014 04:22 PM (Dwehj)

243 You'll get nothing and like it!

Posted by: Judge Smails at April 28, 2014 04:22 PM (bRL1M)

244 They keep saying they won't do it in our mouths and then they do!

Posted by: MJ at April 28, 2014 04:22 PM (oari7)

245 Yeah.  I took a break a few weeks ago and am still kind of looking for other things to do.  Love this place, but the news takes the oxygen right out of my lungs.  Maybe the DC types want to discourage us so much that we just check out..... I can't think of any other reason they are doing the shit they're doing.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 28, 2014 04:22 PM (jucos)

246 That's gotten to be some kind of record, no? 14 years? Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 09:21 PM (oMKp3) http://www.centennialbulb.org/

Posted by: Judge Smails at April 28, 2014 04:23 PM (bRL1M)

247 Any talk of plots to undermine the strength of the US are just tin foil hat rantings. Fuck yes it's sarcasm. This shit is on purpose.

Posted by: nip at April 28, 2014 04:23 PM (IllL7)

248 The best way to make politicians support conservative ideas is to make conservative ideas more popular. I think too many people fail to realize how popular liberalism is.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 04:24 PM (TF/YA)

249 >>Republican definition of Compromise: We give the Dems everything they want, and get pocket lint in return. Well, we do get a little something extra in our mouth.

Posted by: Aviator at April 28, 2014 04:24 PM (3rrMW)

250 "I am trying a couple of LED bulbs in our kitchen, lighting is much better, we shall see on life expectancy."

LEDs are far better than CFLs, but also insanely expensive.

So let's see. A forty cent incandescent in a bedroom lamp just bit it. I can replace it with a spiffy new LED of equivalent output -- dimmable, because it's a dimmer fixture -- for a cool $20. Such a deal!

But the LED will last forever and ever, right? That's what they say, right? And the warranty is a lifetime warranty, right?

One year warranty.

::: Flounder voice :::

"Oh boy! This is great!"

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 04:24 PM (noWW6)

251 I agree with Cortez. America is so racist. What's a Latino like me to do? White people are so racist against La Raza!

Posted by: Christopher Columbus at April 28, 2014 04:24 PM (ZPrif)

252 There is but one single 'good' thing obamnesty will do. It will finally put an end to the pathetic GOP and make room for something better.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 04:24 PM (j4y5j)

253 Speaking of incandescent bulbs...

http://tinyurl.com/ltccor5

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at April 28, 2014 04:24 PM (uhMMS)

254 Posted by: Judge Smails at April 28, 2014 09:23 PM (bRL1M) Well huh.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 28, 2014 04:24 PM (oMKp3)

255 If you don't call Boehner a dickhead then that makes you the dickhead.

Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 28, 2014 04:25 PM (h24EC)

256 What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Evil Blogger Lady at April 28, 2014 04:25 PM (UYjru)

257 Whoa. Someone hit the LSD key.

Posted by: MJ at April 28, 2014 04:25 PM (oari7)

258 I find myself spending more time there myself. Baseball talk and looking at pictures of boobs Posted by: kbdabear at April 28, 2014 09:18 PM (aTXUx) For which your Twitter followers thank you

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 28, 2014 04:26 PM (yz6yg)

259 Head fake. Even DC Republicans are this stupid. *Slaps self furiously while muttering incoherently*

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at April 28, 2014 04:26 PM (dvRYt)

260 When he reached the New World, Cortez burned his ships. As a result his men were well motivated. The GOP is burning it's base to make sure they are not motivated

Posted by: Captain Ramius: at April 28, 2014 04:26 PM (bRL1M)

261 I agree with Hernando and Chris, America is so racist against the noble, oppressed Conquistador-Americans. It's not fair!!

Posted by: Francisco Pizarro at April 28, 2014 04:27 PM (ZPrif)

262 I can't think of any other reason they are doing the shit they're doing. I don't understand they psychology behind their actions either. Being the best at anything requires constant work and attention. What possible reason is there to willfully destroy the most free society on Earth? I'll remind the Horde that George Soros started the Open Borders initiative with the express purpose of destroying our country, our laws and our way of life.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 04:27 PM (0HooB)

263 If we resign ourselves to "watching" what they do, it will be too late

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:27 PM (zOTsN)

264 "Well, we do get a little something extra in our mouth."

That's actually a valuable "co-benefit" that we are providing to you at no additional charge.

Posted by: The Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party at April 28, 2014 04:27 PM (noWW6)

265 I for one will rest easy knowing that our overlords will magically change illegals (criminals) into legals (assuring progressive utopia forever). Now we can concentrate on free operations for our poor, blighted transexual girl boys and boy girls.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at April 28, 2014 04:27 PM (hpgw1)

266 There will always be a need for lawyers!

Posted by: SFGoth at April 28, 2014 04:28 PM (5BnCC)

267 Aaaam-nes-ty is such a lovely word...

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 28, 2014 04:28 PM (Dwehj)

268
   Secure the border and enforce existing immigration laws.

   Nothing more needs saying OR doing.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 28, 2014 04:28 PM (SAMxH)

269 Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at April 28, 2014 09:24 PM (uhMMS) My favorite is the global warmist wet dream of murdering humans who disagree with them: http://tinyurl.com/89uvs7b

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:29 PM (uhAkr)

270 266 There will always be a need for lawyers! Posted by: SFGoth at April 28, 2014 09:28 PM (5BnCC) They make good eating, too

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at April 28, 2014 04:30 PM (bRL1M)

271 Do not be fooled how will telling bigots amnesty is coming get them to vote for republicans

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:30 PM (zOTsN)

272 Secure the border and enforce existing immigration laws. Nothing more needs saying OR doing. Posted by: irongrampa at April 28, 2014 09:28 PM (SAMxH) well they are not enforcing the current set of laws, what stoopid mutha fucka thinks they will enforce the new law/laws??

Posted by: Zip74 at April 28, 2014 04:30 PM (szb0P)

273 They make good eating, too

Yes.

Posted by: Sandra Flook, Esq. at April 28, 2014 04:31 PM (Dwehj)

274 268 Secure the border and enforce existing immigration laws. Nothing more needs saying OR doing. Posted by: irongrampa at April 28, 2014 09:28 PM (SAMxH) How bout taking Bohner out to the woodshed for a good hiding?

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at April 28, 2014 04:31 PM (bRL1M)

275 you know, I wonder what the founding father would do if they were still around? I mean we saw what they did over taxing tea....

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 28, 2014 04:31 PM (krmE0)

276 Whoosh

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:31 PM (zOTsN)

277 I think too many people fail to realize how popular liberalism is.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 09:24 PM (TF/YA)



Yeah, we are constantly underestimating how appealing the welfare state is to the LIVs and the parasite class.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 04:31 PM (XRSxm)

278 1) End drug war 2) Direct resources to border and investigating businesses. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars tracking down bags of powder but finding humans is too difficult.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:31 PM (uhAkr)

279 se habla espanol?  esta muy bueno!!!

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 04:32 PM (8lmkt)

280 Jeez After weeks, months, the trolls are back? For this?

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:32 PM (zOTsN)

281 273 They make good eating, too Yes. Posted by: Sandra Flook, Esq. at April 28, 2014 09:31 PM (Dwehj) I'm fine. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit

Posted by: Kate Veatch at April 28, 2014 04:32 PM (bRL1M)

282 I miss Average Joe, at least he was clever with the hidden messages.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 04:33 PM (L02KD)

283 I don't understand they psychology behind their actions either. The media will finally love us!

Posted by: Grand Old Fistula at April 28, 2014 04:33 PM (dvRYt)

284 275 you know, I wonder what the founding father would do if they were still around? I mean we saw what they did over taxing tea.... Posted by: navycopjoe at April 28, 2014 09:31 PM (krmE0) They'd be pounding on the coffin lid, screaming to get out

Posted by: MikeH at April 28, 2014 04:33 PM (bRL1M)

285 The GOP does that, and I, a reliable GOP voter, will sit out 2014. Enough! Call me what you will. I am done being a sucker.

Posted by: flounder at April 28, 2014 04:34 PM (Kkt/i)

286 In exciting News of Doom, California has underfunded it's pension system by half a trillion dollars.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 04:34 PM (ZPrif)

287 hola! Mi nombre' es Julio, but my social security card says I'm Rachel Booker in Portland, Maine suck it white people/Aztlan' forever

Posted by: Julio at April 28, 2014 04:34 PM (szb0P)

288 they're gonna pay FEES!!! Not fines, fees. And if they don't pay their fees, then what? Back to the end of the line? Back to the "shadows?" Deported? What a joke.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 04:35 PM (j4y5j)

289 Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 28, 2014 09:05 PM (jucos) You just keep producing & they will keep on taking

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 28, 2014 04:36 PM (HVff2)

290 It's not a fee or a fine. I am sure it's a tax. Or something

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:36 PM (zOTsN)

291 Only half a trillion?  That ain't shit for Uncle Sugar.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 28, 2014 04:36 PM (8FyP4)

292 Don't sit it out. Primary them. Vote for anybody but a democrat OR republican. Don't sit home. Primary, primary, primary.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at April 28, 2014 04:37 PM (lGUFK)

293 And if they don't pay their fees, then what? This is the thing that stupid people never seem to realize. If you lessen the penalties on rules that people already ignore, you don't get people to magically follow those rules.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:37 PM (uhAkr)

294 The Spanish word for weasel is El Weasel.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 04:37 PM (AO9UG)

295 I don't understand they psychology behind their actions either.

They aren't on our side.  Agents Provocateur.

Look, if we can convincingly sockpuppet a leftist, some of them can convincingly sockpuppet the right.  It's even easier if you find some easily corrupted, semi-dim bastard and promise him comfort for him and his family if they just go along with the plan.

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 04:38 PM (t5lML)

296 "fair to those in the legal system … who are doing everything legally" ... Other than breaking immigration law coming here. Which will be ignored, and more will flood over, seeing there's no real immigration law at all. Why do we even have a border partrol? Why not just open it up totally and shrug? Whats the point of having the law at all, or is it just to make sure we control how many non-hispanics get into the country?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 28, 2014 04:38 PM (zfY+H)

297 Today's Republicans in Washington D.C. are like a performance artist dropping "eggs" out of her ass on our heads.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 04:38 PM (j4y5j)

298 They had the policy right in 1986 also. FSS. The Republicans can kiss my vote goodbye. It'll actually be a relief.

Posted by: West at April 28, 2014 04:38 PM (Ib1LY)

299 @  274


   That, Hannibal, falls under the heading of personal pleasure.

   But I'll be glad to hold your coat.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 28, 2014 04:38 PM (SAMxH)

300 I have no idea what compelled me to make that above comment.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 04:39 PM (j4y5j)

301 280 Jeez


After weeks, months, the trolls are back?



For this?

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 09:32 PM (zOTsN)

They are GOP paid trolls I assume.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 04:39 PM (buZ/8)

302 I dunno but now I want corn bread.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 04:40 PM (L02KD)

303 The Spanish word for corn is El Corno.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 04:40 PM (AO9UG)

304 The Spanish word for weasel is El Weasel.

Posted by: eman

 

El Weasel means 'the weasel.'

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 28, 2014 04:40 PM (8FyP4)

305 meanwhile, gas went up 20 cents in the last 10 days... but, yeah, obama's and clinton's amnesty is really important to me

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 04:40 PM (j4y5j)

306 The Spanish word for crying orange drunk is El Boehnero.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 28, 2014 04:40 PM (uhAkr)

307 For better understanding of "why", watch the first 30 minutes of this:

https://www.billwhittle.com/stratosphere-lounge/ stratosphere-lounge-episode-60

take the space out after lounge/


Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 04:41 PM (t5lML)

308 btw, my cornbread diet is going pretty well.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 04:41 PM (j4y5j)

309 You're far too trusting.

Posted by: Grand Moff SCOAMF to Princess Boehner at April 28, 2014 04:41 PM (dvRYt)

310 296 "fair to those in the legal system … who are doing everything legally"
...
Other than breaking immigration law coming here. Which will be ignored, and more will flood over, seeing there's no real immigration law at all. Why do we even have a border partrol? Why not just open it up totally and shrug? Whats the point of having the law at all, or is it just to make sure we control how many non-hispanics get into the country?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 28, 2014 09:38 PM (zfY+H)


Well, it is kind of like paying people to dig ditches. And then paying people to fill them. Or something.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 04:42 PM (buZ/8)

311

The Spanish word for weasel is El Weasel.

 

Wrong!  It's El Weasel-o.

Posted by: Danny DeVito in Romancing the Stone at April 28, 2014 04:42 PM (BAS5M)

312 304 The Spanish word for weasel is El Weasel. Posted by: eman El Weasel means 'the weasel.' Posted by: Countrysquire at April 28, 2014 09:40 PM (8FyP4) You don't say! Well, strap me to the side of a pig and roll me in the mud!

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 04:42 PM (AO9UG)

313 Rule of law?  Never heard of it.

Posted by: Jebby McBoehner at April 28, 2014 04:42 PM (YBusZ)

314 @292 Won't work in deep blue Pac. NW.

Posted by: flounder at April 28, 2014 04:42 PM (Kkt/i)

315 I believe the proper term for what is going on is "cornholio"

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 04:42 PM (zOTsN)

316 They are GOP paid trolls I assume. Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 09:39 PM (buZ/ Karl Rove paid Jeb Bush Trolls?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 28, 2014 04:43 PM (84gbM)

317 @296 you're not far off I think. VD Hanson had a great piece about California awhile back, noting that if you run a pizza joint in a mall and fail to post the calorie count of a half slice of pizza you practically get a SWAT team response, but a little way down the road The Law ignores shanty towns full of illegals complete with roadside cafes serving God knows what to who knows who. Want two tiers of law? We got em.

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 28, 2014 04:43 PM (3kSqR)

318 Today's news has been uniformly depressing. Just like every other day since Obama was elected. Pass the bourbon.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2014 04:43 PM (hFL/3)

319 Some Lionel Hutz type of lobbyists are singing in the R's ears and selling them this amnesty monorail.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 04:43 PM (j4y5j)

320
Of course we can trust President Obama to enforce the border security provisions of the deal.  We have nothing to fear or some such.

Posted by: Jebby McBoehner at April 28, 2014 04:43 PM (YBusZ)

321 Crap, I was hoping the Blue Jackets would push the Penguins to 7 games. Oh well, great series.

Posted by: logprof at April 28, 2014 04:43 PM (GW/jL)

322 Every latin/Mexican I've ever met that immigrated legally was a perfectly lovely person.  Wonderful, sweet, caring, hard working.

I've met several that jumped the border.  Spoke with them once, avoided them thereafter.

It's almost like the quality of respecting the laws of a country tends to make one a nicer person to be around, irrespective of skin color.  Hmm.  What a concept.

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 04:44 PM (t5lML)

323 Sarah Palin called Waterboarding Baptism!!!

*swoon*

Posted by: NRO - proned out, hand to forehead on the fainting divan at April 28, 2014 04:44 PM (5ikDv)

324 I'm fixing to unleash a mighty Tweet.

Posted by: Jen Psocki at April 28, 2014 04:44 PM (Dwehj)

325 Why isn't Reagan's immigration law settled?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 28, 2014 04:45 PM (HVff2)

326 295 - Look, these are human beings. There is no such thing as an 'illegal Human Being'. These people came here in hope of a brighter future. They are willing and hard workers. If we are a decent people, we will do all that we can to grant them access to all of the advantages that we enjoy. No one of good conscience could oppose this plan, those who do not are quite obviously racists who despise people of color. There can be no other reason.

Posted by: Liberal Sockpuppet. Gee..., that was easy. at April 28, 2014 04:45 PM (aDwsi)

327 Come on Charlie Brown, this time you'll nail it and win over the Hispanic vote!

Posted by: Lucy Van Pelt at April 28, 2014 04:45 PM (GW/jL)

328 We can't imagine President Obama asserting prosecutorial discretion to cherry pick pieces of this deal to better advantage Democratic constituencies.  There'd be no precedent for such politicized selective enforcement.

Posted by: Jebby McBoehner at April 28, 2014 04:45 PM (YBusZ)

329

You don't say!

Well, strap me to the side of a pig and roll me in the mud!

Posted by: eman

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmeUStFvz8

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 28, 2014 04:46 PM (8FyP4)

330 I'm fixing to unleash a mighty Tweet. Posted by: Jen Lights dim at Twitter HQ under the load..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 04:46 PM (aDwsi)

331 " There is no such thing as an 'illegal Human Being'. " Says the same fuckfaces who've made the murder of preborn children the number one cause of death in our country. By far.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2014 04:46 PM (hFL/3)

332 At least California has finally rid itself of that pesky Toyota and their 5300 employees.  Whee doggies, I get Rick Perry was laughing his ass off today!  God bless Texas!

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 04:47 PM (8lmkt)

333 Someone whose first act in this country was the knowing commission of a felony is really no different than those who came over on the Mayflower.

Posted by: Jebby McBoehner at April 28, 2014 04:48 PM (YBusZ)

334 Says the same fuckfaces who've made the murder of preborn children the number one cause of death in our country. By far. Posted by: Lauren ------------------------- Um. We're going to have to strike that comment.

Posted by: MSM at April 28, 2014 04:48 PM (aDwsi)

335 I can already sniff the path to a permanent GOP majority in this compromise! Boner Alert!!!

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 28, 2014 04:48 PM (GW/jL)

336 Melt the phones tomorrow NO NO NO NO.. Hell NO! They want to run on passing amnesty and "fixing" 0bamacare. Unfookingbelievable.

Posted by: Willy at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (kUCQ4)

337 314 @292 Won't work in deep blue Pac. NW.

Posted by: flounder at April 28, 2014 09:42 PM (Kkt/i)


Yeah you get Democrat or Republican. Or in Seattle it is Democrat or Democrat.


Thanks jungle primary!

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (buZ/8)

338 332 At least California has finally rid itself of that pesky Toyota and their 5300 employees. Whee doggies, I get Rick Perry was laughing his ass off today! God bless Texas! Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 09:47 PM (8lmkt) I can't help wondering how many of the Californians who follow the jobs to Texas will nonetheless keep their voting habits.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (sdi6R)

339 If you look at countries with a lot of ethnic diversity, you end up with ethnic bloc voting. In parliamentary systems you often end up with just flat out ethnic parties. In America the white % is shrinking. The Democrats made a strong play, successfully, for the non-white vote, while trying to hold onto a sizeable minority of the white votes. It worked. It's not good that the Repubs are become the white party and the Dems are becoming the anti-white party. But it was fairly predictable. This ethnic political split doesn't bode well for the peaceful future of America.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (ZPrif)

340 There's a far, far better option than sitting out an election or voting for a politician you loathe: vote with your feet. If you don't like the choices you have, then find better choices.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (TF/YA)

341 We'll be more like Cuba, and with better naked performance artists. No work means more time to enrich the world with your art.

Posted by: Feh at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (g/zj9)

342 The eco-Nazis have gone too far now. http://tinyurl.com/kx26fxn

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (Mogjf)

343 As a bonus, I will re-tweet in Spanish.

Posted by: Jen Psocki at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (Dwehj)

344 In exciting News of Doom, California has underfunded it's pension system by half a trillion dollars.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 09:34 PM (ZPrif)



Is California worse off with pensions than Illinois? Half a trillion doesn't seem so big in a state with one-sixth of the US population.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 04:49 PM (XRSxm)

345 My friendsh...

Posted by: Senator John McCain [/i] [/b] at April 28, 2014 04:51 PM (5ikDv)

346 The GOP is trying their darnedest to snatch a very resistant and unwilling defeat from the jaws of eager victory. Obamacare is ravaging the land. Let's focus on amnesty instead and aggravate our base! Great timing. I wonder if their calculation is that people hate 404care more than amnesty, so they'll still show up to vote for them. So this is the safest time to pass amnesty for them. They may be surprised in November.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 28, 2014 04:51 PM (r+7wo)

347 "Um. We're going to have to strike that comment." Ok, try this one. Being murdered by your mother prenatally is more likely to kill you than every other cause of death combined.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2014 04:51 PM (hFL/3)

348 cali has about 1/8th of America's pop. 38 of 320M

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 04:52 PM (ZPrif)

349 This ethnic political split doesn't bode well for the peaceful future of America.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 09:49 PM (ZPrif)

 

Nothing bodes well in every direction we look, but this country has faced existential threats before. That's where leadership comes in. That's what it's for. If you see any, let me know.

Posted by: troyriser at April 28, 2014 04:52 PM (V9ol4)

350 Oh, fuck. It's going to be in the high 90s for the rest of the week.

Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 28, 2014 04:52 PM (8c12T)

351 Any numbers yet on abortions paid for by 404Care?

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 04:52 PM (L02KD)

352 The eco-Nazis have gone too far now. --------------------- They left out the obvious solution. Pet food. But not the way you are thinking of it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 04:53 PM (aDwsi)

353 So the eco-nazis want to ban pet ownership now? Of course, they do.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 04:54 PM (ZPrif)

354 340 There's a far, far better option than sitting out an election or voting for a politician you loathe: vote with your feet.
Yeah, kick them in the butt!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 28, 2014 04:54 PM (XeVA7)

355 Boehner and the rest of those sell outs have to go. I was an idiot and voted for Romney last time "for the good of the party". Heh! I am sure the RINO's will be telling us the same thing this election cycle. I will never vote for any politician who supports amnesty for illegal aliens.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at April 28, 2014 04:54 PM (ICAJo)

356 Ok, try this one. Being murdered by your mother prenatally is more likely to kill you than every other cause of death combined. Posted by: Lauren ------------------------ :: fingers in ears :: La, la, la, la, la..., la, la, la

Posted by: The MSM at April 28, 2014 04:54 PM (aDwsi)

357 346 The GOP is trying their darnedest to snatch a very resistant and unwilling defeat from the jaws of eager victory.

Obamacare is ravaging the land. Let's focus on amnesty instead and aggravate our base! Great timing.

I wonder if their calculation is that people hate 404care more than amnesty, so they'll still show up to vote for them. So this is the safest time to pass amnesty for them.

They may be surprised in November.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 28, 2014 09:51 PM (r+7wo)


I say this a lot, but I told my rep that if the GOP votes for any form of immigration "reform" in the House, I am done voting for them. Democrats all the way. Might as well end this sooner rather than later.


Those 600 billion dollar deficits can't get any smaller! NO CUTS!

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 04:54 PM (buZ/8)

358 We still don't exist.

Posted by: mythical GOP establishment [/i] [/b] at April 28, 2014 04:54 PM (5ikDv)

359 Any numbers yet on abortions paid for by 404Care? 100%?

Posted by: --- at April 28, 2014 04:54 PM (MMC8r)

360 They left out the obvious solution. Pet food. But not the way you are thinking of it. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 09:53 PM (aDwsi) ******* What is Soylent Green?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 28, 2014 04:54 PM (ojnk6)

361 349 Oh, fuck. It's going to be in the high 90s for the rest of the week. Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 28, 2014 09:52 PM (8c12T) Trade you 40s & rain

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 28, 2014 04:55 PM (HVff2)

362 I can't help wondering how many of the Californians who follow the jobs to Texas will nonetheless keep their voting habits.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 09:49 PM (sdi6R)


I heard they're only providing relocation bennies for 1000, the rest are SOL.  As, of course, are the many smaller businesses whose very existence has depended on Toyota for the last 30 years.  The funniest part was that the Torrance mayor and council didn't have a clue until 15 minutes before Toyota made their announcement, although it's been known in Texas for months now.  California is, truly, the capital of stupid.

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 04:55 PM (8lmkt)

363 "Half a trillion doesn't seem so big in a state with one-sixth of the US population."

How many of that sixth actually work and pay taxes towards CA's pensions?

Remember that Commiefornia all by its lonesome adds up to a staggering one-third of the entire welfare caseload of the country.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 04:55 PM (noWW6)

364 I will never vote for any politician who supports amnesty for illegal aliens. Posted by: The Walking ---------------- You're preaching to choir. Pick up the telephone tomorrow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 04:55 PM (aDwsi)

365 Yeah, I got this. bit.ly/1mICFh4

Posted by: Stana Katic, supermodel detective at April 28, 2014 04:56 PM (Px4PF)

366 Torrance mayor and council didn't have a clue until 15 minutes before Toyota made their announcement, --------------- LMAO

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 04:56 PM (aDwsi)

367 The GOP is trying their darnedest to snatch a very resistant and unwilling defeat from the jaws of eager victory.



Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 28, 2014 09:51 PM (r+7wo)



First you have to realize the GOP is the team that isn't trying to win. Then it all becomes clear.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 04:57 PM (XRSxm)

368 I hope some putz from the GOP is reading this: As soon as your immigration bill passes the house, you will be receiving a letter from me 'splainin' why I am no longer a Republican. You wanna commit political suicide, go ahead. This rat is jumpin' ship before it goes down. Eff you.

Posted by: Cornfed at April 28, 2014 04:57 PM (V9+tR)

369 Remember that Commiefornia all by its lonesome adds up to a staggering one-third of the entire welfare caseload of the country.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 09:55 PM (noWW6)


Why do you think we attract so many people looking to relocate and eschew working?  The benefits are fabulous!!

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 04:57 PM (8lmkt)

370 Definitely not the hill to die on...

Posted by: mythical GOP establishment [/i] [/b] at April 28, 2014 04:57 PM (5ikDv)

371 We're a bit short on solutions or constructive ideas but we have a lot of really cute jokes. We are so so cute.

Posted by: Ace of twitter at April 28, 2014 04:57 PM (kp5cA)

372 Finally, perhaps the best way to shift norms around pet ownership is to simply start working to rebuild community interactions. Community gardens, book clubs, resilience circles, neighborhood tool and toy libraries, church groups, and transition towns: all of these might go a long way in providing the social engagement that a walk with the dog currently provides. And unlike a dog, community ties will play an essential role in helping people get through the disruptions climate change will bring. Has this idiot considered the possibility that we have pets precisely because we don't want "social engagement" with human assholes? Get your effing "community" out of my face.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 04:58 PM (sdi6R)

373 Nothing bodes well in every direction we look, but this country has faced existential threats before. That's where leadership comes in. That's what it's for. If you see any, let me know. Existential threats caused by diversity, though? There are several ways to handle those. None of them involve the electoral process (long term, let alone short term). I've floated a few of these alternatives in Ace threads myself - of which Czar Alexander III's autocracy was probably the least odious to fellow 'Horde members.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 28, 2014 04:58 PM (30eLQ)

374 Definitely.

Posted by: mythical GOP establishment [/i] [/b] at April 28, 2014 04:58 PM (5ikDv)

375 "The funniest part was that the Torrance mayor and council didn't have a clue until 15 minutes before Toyota made their announcement, although it's been known in Texas for months now. California is, truly, the capital of stupid."

Why would any Commiefornia politician ever stoop to pick up a phone and talk to someone at a private sector business? Those business people are the enemy of all that is civilized, good and true. Capitalist running dogs! Imperialist exploiters of the downtrodden masses!

Meanwhile, in Texas: "Howdy, y'all! Just wanted to call and check in. Anything we can do to help with your expansion here?"

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 04:58 PM (noWW6)

376 Quick TV theme trivia! Why do the Sweat-hogs tease Mr Kotter a lot?

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 05:01 PM (j4y5j)

377 I'm definitely feeling triggered by the Republican Party. Also, that racist idiot who owns the L.A. Clippers. And John Boehner. And John Kerry. I think I'll have another beer.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2014 05:01 PM (Px4PF)

378 "resilience circles" Oh that is *so* going into my PC buzzword satire.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2014 05:01 PM (hFL/3)

379 I understand that the Republicans are too stupid to understand that this will destoy them, because Republicans are stupid. But does the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable really think that their bid to get cheap labor in the short term won't lead to confiscatory taxes in the long term. They should watch Dark Knight Rises to get a taste for what their serf class will do to them once they find their Bane.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at April 28, 2014 05:01 PM (29vnO)

380 It is entirely possible that it is only the soothing companionship of our cat (Ok, not all of the time) and dog that has prevented me from going postal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 05:01 PM (aDwsi)

381 Problem is the Democrats have made their successful play for the non-white vote mainly by campaigning for 40 years on a White People Are Evil Racist Scum Who Hate You and Your Family platform. That has been successful. This is how ethnic politics works -- you blame all the problems of ethnic group Y and ethnic group Z. This tends to piss ethnic group Z off, of course.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 05:01 PM (ZPrif)

382 on, not and

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 05:02 PM (ZPrif)

383 I hope some putz from the GOP is reading this: As soon as your immigration bill passes the house, you will be receiving a letter from me 'splainin' why I am no longer a Republican. Said putz can also take from me that I've been openly flirting with abandoning the vote entirely since 2008. Fuck, I even took "abandoning the vote" to my bed in 2012. I may have got a four year case of venereal disease out of it but at least I knew what I was getting.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 28, 2014 05:02 PM (30eLQ)

384 371 We're a bit short on solutions or constructive ideas but we have a lot of really cute jokes. We are so so cute. Posted by: Ace of twitter at April 28, 2014 09:57 PM (kp5cA) =========================== Lame. Very lame.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2014 05:02 PM (Px4PF)

385 This is the part where the Horde decides anything resembling reform is actually amnesty, revolts and then ends up with the status quo. One wonder whether those happy with the status quo somehow benefit from said status quo. After all, those proposing reform are ALWAYS accused of benefitting from reform--no matter what shape said reform takes. Perhaps the folks happy with things as they are are banging an illegal nanny. Just once could we take a look at whether there are enforceable triggers before spitting on reform? Posted by: spongeworthy You sound reasonable. I wish this were possible. But what on earth would be "enforceable triggers" that we could expect the Obama administration to abide by, given their past record of interpreting/violating the law?

Posted by: The Farmer at April 28, 2014 05:03 PM (eBupg)

386 "start working to rebuild community interactions. Community gardens, book clubs"

I figure that book clubs in many "underprivileged" areas would be a smash hit, don't you? With all of those patrons who can't read and don't care to learn how? What a brainstorm.

As for "community gardens", a little known bit of American political backstory.

Karl Hess, the guy who wrote Goldwater's 1964 convention speech, was by 1968 living in the ghetto trying to teach the locals all about... community gardening. As a self-reliance, character building, up by the bootstraps sort of thing.

It didn't work out for the best.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 05:03 PM (noWW6)

387 "It Just Doesn't Matter!" - GOPe team cheer

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 28, 2014 05:03 PM (BAS5M)

388 de Monet - heh, "Meatballs"

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 28, 2014 05:04 PM (30eLQ)

389 "The funniest part was that the Torrance mayor and council didn't have a clue until 15 minutes before Toyota made their announcement, although it's been known in Texas for months now. California is, truly, the capital of stupid." Why would any Commiefornia politician ever stoop to pick up a phone and talk to someone at a private sector business? Those business people are the enemy of all that is civilized, good and true. Capitalist running dogs! Imperialist exploiters of the downtrodden masses! Meanwhile, in Texas: "Howdy, y'all! Just wanted to call and check in. Anything we can do to help with your expansion here?" Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 09:58 PM (noWW6) They are pushing out that Sriracha maker, as well. California runs off of its legacy businesses. Lot of companies who set up before the state went totally tits up. but as Toyota is demonstrating, you can squeeze only so much blood from a stone. Soon, California will be nothing more than a Hollywood-Silicon Valley axis of the ultra rich, their pet bureaucrats & gentry, and then the great unwashed masses whose only job on the plantation is to validate the elites and allow themselves to be socially engineered like lab rats…

Posted by: The Mulberry Bear Hat at April 28, 2014 05:04 PM (AymDN)

390 Democrats get 80% of the asian vote, despite supporting racist Affirmative Action programs that are designed to screw over asians. How do they achieve that? Because most asians live in major cities where they are taught by the pubic schools that Republicans are racists who hate everybody who isn't white. Nobody wants to vote for a party that hates them. It's very effective propaganda.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 05:05 PM (ZPrif)

391 Cause they got him on the spot.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 05:05 PM (XRSxm)

392 First you have to realize the GOP is the team that isn't trying to win. Then it all becomes clear. Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 09:57 PM (XRSxm) I can't really argue with this. If they were NOT trying to win, what would they be doing differently?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 28, 2014 05:05 PM (r+7wo)

393 It's not a pet, it's a service animal.  Biting intruders is an essential function.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 05:05 PM (L02KD)

394 I feel a trigger coming on.

Posted by: Paul Simon at April 28, 2014 05:05 PM (Dwehj)

395 Pol Pot was real big on community gardening, I hear.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 05:05 PM (sdi6R)

396 Just once could we take a look at whether there are enforceable triggers before spitting on reform? ================================== Sure, right after we see the enforceable triggers in spending reform. Tax reform. Regulatory reform. Absolutely, we can take a look. Oh wait.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2014 05:06 PM (Px4PF)

397 The Siriracha guys should come to Texas. We like things spicy.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2014 05:06 PM (hFL/3)

398 I beat the rush to telling the GOP off by sending my congresscritter an email today saying I wasn't voting for national level GOP guys anymore. Why throw away a vote on fakse hope. I then spent the entire day killing mythical alien things on Star Trek Online (something I discovered the last week and have kinda gotten hooked on**)--and got more real-world tangible psychic benefit from it than the entire last seven years of worrying about the goddamned GOP, and that includes cavorting with the blogging crowd. **The ground combat is blah, but the space combat is actually subtle--you have to know the right tactic. It's a neat enough game, though I hope I grow sick of it eventually, because I am wasting a lot of time right now.

Posted by: Some random guy on the internet at April 28, 2014 05:06 PM (FnO/2)

399 Im still trying to figure out why anyone would want to come to the US with the jobless recovery and food and gas prices through the roof. What's the point? There are no jobs and it doesn't look like that is going to change anytime soon.

Posted by: MistressOverdone at April 28, 2014 05:06 PM (2/oBD)

400 "But does the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable really think that their bid to get cheap labor in the short term won't lead to confiscatory taxes in the long term."

I've said this so much that my vocal cords are about to do a Julie Andrews, but:

The GOP should agree to certain things that Obama wants, on a strictly time-limited basis with a built-in sunset date.

One of those things being great big tax increases. Remind the Chamber crowd in the most painful way of how things used to be before Republicans cut their taxes.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 05:06 PM (noWW6)

401 "start working to rebuild community interactions. Community gardens, book clubs" ---------- Stories from two different Scoutmasters. Both have tried to involve minority youth. Doesn't work. Why? Is it cultural difference? Maybe. But what they both separately related to me, is that the problem was an absence of parental engagement and support.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 05:07 PM (aDwsi)

402 Why do the Sweat-hogs tease Mr Kotter a lot? IIRC, he was a SH once.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 05:07 PM (0HooB)

403 Maybe we could put some enforceable triggers on the enforceable triggers that would force them to be enforced when triggered?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 05:08 PM (ZPrif)

404 391 Cause they got him on the spot. Welcome back welcome back welcome back

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 05:08 PM (j4y5j)

405

Soon, California will be nothing more than a Hollywood-Silicon Valley axis of the ultra rich, their pet bureaucrats & gentry, and then the great unwashed masses whose only job on the plantation is to validate  valet park for  the elites and allow themselves to be socially engineered like lab rats…

 

 

There.  That looks better.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 28, 2014 05:09 PM (BAS5M)

406 IIRC, he was a SH once. dood. While technically kinda sorta correct, it's not what the judges were looking for.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 05:09 PM (j4y5j)

407 I had something interesting today. I did advisements today for people arrested over the weekend. One was an alien from who knows where but his language is Malay. He was trying to deliver food to customers from his brother's Chinese restaurant when he got confused and ran a stop sign. He didn't have his driver's license on him so he was arrested for no license and running a stop sign. His sister-in-law came to court and brought me his license so I dismissed that charge and, in part because I didn't want the taxpayers to pay for an interpreter, I dismissed the stop sign charge also. So what do the feds do? ICE grabs him and he is held in custody until an ICE hearing in Denver. Yeah, this Asian who works for a living must be detained.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 28, 2014 05:09 PM (Mogjf)

408 Make me a sammich. Now.

Posted by: Paul Simon at April 28, 2014 05:10 PM (Dwehj)

409 "Im still trying to figure out why anyone would want to come to the US with the jobless recovery and food and gas prices through the roof. What's the point"

The point is EBT, AFDC, WIC, SNAP, SSI and all of the rest of the alphabet-soup welfare state programs.

If you're not paying for anything, getting free rides on everything down to a smartphone, and you're gaming the system at every turn, and the very worst that can happen to you is being sent back to your country of origin, and the odds of that are damned slim under this President, then wouldn't you figure it was a good deal for you?

But, you will say, illegal aliens can't "access" those benefits.

Bullshit. Obama's dear Auntie Zeituni managed to do so just fine despite being an illegal. So has Uncle Omar.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2014 05:10 PM (noWW6)

410 This dying thread is like Apartheid.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 05:10 PM (j4y5j)

411 I wanna be a concern troll. Seems like fun to do a little anonymous passive-aggressive twat leaking to strangers on the interwebs. But then I realize I have self respect. Well, some self respect. For certain values of "respect".

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 28, 2014 05:10 PM (Pvcl5)

412 400 posts in and no one has said it, sooo... "Just the tip this time. I promise." - said by DC, Libs and most of the GOP.

Posted by: knob at April 28, 2014 05:11 PM (H1bc7)

413 This dying thread is like Apartheid. Posted by: Soothsayer ------------------------- I think we should get used to it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 05:12 PM (aDwsi)

414 Democrats get 80% of the asian vote, despite supporting racist Affirmative Action programs that are designed to screw over asians. Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 10:05 PM (ZPrif) Maybe not for long. The Asian vote was actually quite close in Nevada because they had people actually bother to talk with Asian-Americans. The attempt by the Calif. Legislature to re-instate Affirmative Action for the university system was killed off when the Asian communities went bat-shit over it and three Asian-American state Senators turned tail. When you start running out of White people to kick around, your going to find a new group to blame. Asians will be the target, and I doubt most of them will suffer having their own children discriminated against in the name of "social justice"

Posted by: Prop. 209, bit*hz! at April 28, 2014 05:12 PM (AymDN)

415 ICE grabs him and he is held in custody until an ICE hearing in Denver. Duh. His current status: deemed not a future obama devotee/voter.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 05:12 PM (j4y5j)

416 Did anyone see this?

The Pentagon is about to destroy over $1billion in ammo.

http://tinyurl.com/mmjneff

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 28, 2014 05:13 PM (SHnHe)

417 Of course, Cali system still has affirmative action. They just have to hide it. Look at CalTech to see what a university that really has zero affirmative action looks like.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 05:14 PM (ZPrif)

418 If you think that politicians are pursuing an unpopular policy, I would suggest you first recheck your premises.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 05:14 PM (TF/YA)

419 Weird. Usually Peaches stumbles in by now, half in th wrapper, swearing like a sailor.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 28, 2014 05:15 PM (j4y5j)

420 Destroying ammo is raycis, we should be more like Africa.

http://tinyurl.com/7zrfumb

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 05:15 PM (L02KD)

421 You guys liked Reagan, didn't you? Reagan did this, so what's the problem? Stupid effing mouth breathers. I can't believe I have explain this to you. Now just shut up until November.

Posted by: The GOP Establishment at April 28, 2014 05:16 PM (uaEZS)

422
The Pentagon is about to destroy over $1billion in ammo.

http://tinyurl.com/mmjneff

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 28, 2014 10:13 PM (SHnHe)





Why destroy it when you can gift it to every police department in the nation?

Posted by: grognard at April 28, 2014 05:16 PM (t5lML)

423 I did, via Drudge. This is because in this Tech age, the services can't seem to share basic info about surpluses. I used to get upset, but my meter pegged out and quit working. Now I chuckle and shake my head.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 28, 2014 05:16 PM (ojnk6)

424 what, no closing joke? i guess we are all tired of being fucked on this issue. I'll write my own: "No, seriously, *this* time. I mean it, I really promise that we have reached a solution where I get what I want and you do not have to deal with anything in your mou -- OH, shit. well, i tried."

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 28, 2014 05:16 PM (LWu6U)

425 Weird. Usually Peaches stumbles in by now, half in th wrapper, swearing like a sailor.

Fuck off, I've been here for, like, half an hour.  Just had to do a little unscheduled beer run.  Try to pay attention, eh? 

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:16 PM (8lmkt)

426 Amazing. Putin told Obama to shut up and stop calling and US newspapers are not reporting the story. http://bit.ly/QWEonL

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2014 05:16 PM (Px4PF)

427 If you think that politicians are pursuing an unpopular policy, I would suggest you first recheck your premises.

That is soooo totes Tweet-worthy.

Posted by: Jen Psocki at April 28, 2014 05:17 PM (Dwehj)

428 The Democrats are just taking the advice of my "Solution"…

Posted by: Berthold Brecht at April 28, 2014 05:17 PM (AymDN)

429 While technically kinda sorta correct, it's not what the judges were looking for. In fairness to me, I've only seen about half of one episode of WBK.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 05:18 PM (0HooB)

430 Well, choke me in the shallow waters!

Posted by: Edie Brickell at April 28, 2014 05:18 PM (uaEZS)

431 Gee it seems most everyone is kind of upset by this.

Posted by: freaked at April 28, 2014 05:18 PM (JdEZJ)

432 The Pentagon is about to destroy over $1billion in ammo.>>

I bet they could destroy that ammo and make hella dough. A public private partnership letting civilians pay to fire it off would be a win win. It will never happen cause the govt loves wasting shit. Not providing fun to us smelly citizens.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 28, 2014 05:19 PM (5bbdJ)

433 Peaches/AtC 2016.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 05:19 PM (0HooB)

434 Stupid effing mouth breathers. I can't believe I have explain this to you. Now just shut up until November. Posted by: The GOP Establishment at April 28, 2014 10:16 PM (uaEZS) ******** No worries. You will hear our opinion in November. You won't care for it. FYI.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 28, 2014 05:19 PM (ojnk6)

435 See and this sort of thing contributes to my pessimism. Because even if by some slim chance a Republican President was elected in 2016, I doubt, very much doubt, the country would look much different than how it looks under Obama.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 28, 2014 05:19 PM (+0txR)

436 See and this sort of thing contributes to my pessimism. Because even if by some slim chance a Republican President was elected in 2016, I doubt, very much doubt, the country would look much different than how it looks under Obama.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 28, 2014 10:19 PM (+0txR)


THIS!!!  Unless it was somehow Rick Perry.  And, even then, they'd hobble him and nothing would change.

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:20 PM (8lmkt)

437 426 Amazing. Putin told Obama to shut up and stop calling and US newspapers are not reporting the story. Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2014 10:16 PM (Px4PF) It's a local Russian news story.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2014 05:21 PM (sdi6R)

438 390 Democrats get 80% of the asian vote, despite supporting racist Affirmative Action programs that are designed to screw over asians.

How do they achieve that? Because most asians live in major cities where they are taught by the pubic schools that Republicans are racists who hate everybody who isn't white.

Nobody wants to vote for a party that hates them. It's very effective propaganda.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 10:05 PM (ZPrif)


The Republicans as recent as 2004 got 43-53% of the Asian vote, 44-53% of the Hispanic vote, and 11-88% of the Black vote. They had 1% less White support than today @ 58%-41.



2012? Republicans got 26-73% Asian vote, 27-71% of the Hispanic vote, and 6-93% of the Black vote.



Republicans just SUCK at outreach. One thing GWB was good at (apparently in 2004). Plus they have nominated two of the most unlikeable figures possible and the completely WRONG person for the election they were running in.



So naturally we go for Jeb Bush, because losing two elections in a row needs to have a third loss to round it out!

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 05:22 PM (buZ/8)

439 >>>Fuck off, I've been here for, like, half an hour. Just had to do a little unscheduled beer run. Try to pay attention, eh? There's our Peaches! I'm breaking a personal rule and drinking on a weeknight. Actually, I started at 1 PM, so I guess I was drinking during a weekday. Yay me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 28, 2014 05:22 PM (Pvcl5)

440 See and this sort of thing contributes to my
pessimism. Because even if by some slim chance a Republican President
was elected in 2016, I doubt, very much doubt, the country would look
much different than how it looks under Obama.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 28, 2014 10:19 PM (+0txR)

That's true. The politicians don't have near as much impact on America as Americans do.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 05:22 PM (TF/YA)

441 This is the proof that it is all over. Toll fees from dozens of deep pocket industries to the GOP to bring this bill in. Bribes and promises of more riches to the Reps that get on board. Facebook is hurting and needs to fire a few hundred Americans so that company sponsored Visa engineers from India can be hired for half the salary and zero stock options. Six years into the worst recovery in history and they want to take campaign contributions from chicken processors and corporate farmers to bring in Central Americans at $9/hr. The only things politicians from both parties react to now are money and threats of violence from Leftist groups. I would be a fool to accept their authority. The Federal government is a huge cancerous tumor killing the Country and its citizens. They boast of destroying political opponents while the party of freedom and small government is a grass roots movement called 'terrorists' by sitting leaders from both sides of the spectrum. This is a Civil War.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 28, 2014 05:23 PM (P3VAz)

442 “It is as close as we have ever been. It is still a big, big, heavy lift,” he said. “I think we’re going to get there.” --- How many minutes before the final vote will the be unveiled to the public? Schoolhouse rock must be spinning in its grave.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 28, 2014 05:23 PM (TfdkD)

443 Dah. I also tell President Mom Jeans to get, how you say, shine box.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at April 28, 2014 05:23 PM (uaEZS)

444 Posted by: DC in Towson at April 28, 2014 10:22 PM (Pvcl5)

How did the interview go, DC?

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:23 PM (8lmkt)

445 Putin told Obama to shut up and stop calling and US newspapers are not reporting the story.

It was a forceful Tweet, I must admit.

Posted by: Jen Psocki at April 28, 2014 05:24 PM (Dwehj)

446 The Khan just appointed Hulagu to govern Persia? Local Mongol news story

Posted by: Caliph Musta'sim at April 28, 2014 05:24 PM (30eLQ)

447 THIS!!! Unless it was somehow Rick Perry. And, even then, they'd hobble him and nothing would change. Hmm, if the Senate flipped in '014 and RP could grab the MFM by the short curlies and get them to straighten the fuck up, we might have a chance at starting to undo what's been done to the nation.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 05:25 PM (0HooB)

448 I doubt, very much doubt, the country would look much different than how it looks under Obama. --- It would look more rassist and sexist. And stoopid and angry.

Posted by: NYT at April 28, 2014 05:25 PM (TfdkD)

449 Putin told Obama to shut up and stop calling and US newspapers are not reporting the story.

However, if he had said he wasn't accepting any more calls from black people, it would have been all over the place. 

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:25 PM (8lmkt)

450 Obama's plan is to goad Putin into saying something racist. And then Obama can ... profit??

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 05:26 PM (ZPrif)

451 You could have cut the tension with a knife. Then Uncle Joe farted.

Posted by: Jen Psocki at April 28, 2014 05:26 PM (Dwehj)

452 Yest. there was talk of cinco de mayo. I can never think of that day without thinking of the night i spent in a san jose jail (defending a friend who was being stomped by a former bf. he spent four days in hospital, charges against me were dropped.) and it was just another Sunday night, not a festival night or anything, but it was standing room only in the holding cells full of all the best and brightest S.A. has to offer us to do all those jobs, blah blah blah. I keep thinking that it would do our nation a service is every one of those Washingtonians had to spend a night in holding, holding their pee so as not to loose their spot to sit on the floor, contemplating the value of our open border policy and the effect it is having on communities besides the cheap labor and affordable housecleaning

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 28, 2014 05:26 PM (LWu6U)

453 Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 10:22 PM (buZ/

I might just be that the GOP stands for too many things that most people don't believe are beneficial to them.

Abortion is being curtailed. Gun Rights are being expanded.

We are winning on those fronts.

The GOP's positions on Gay marriage, immigration, expansion of benefits, reductions and social changes in the military? Not so much.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 28, 2014 05:27 PM (JS0vr)

454 The Pentagon is about to destroy over $1billion in ammo. -------------------- Well, shitcan the A-10, shitcan the ammo.., what the hell. But seriously, what I haven't found, is the reason why.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 05:27 PM (aDwsi)

455 >>>How did the interview go, DC?

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 28, 2014 05:28 PM (Pvcl5)

456 That good, eh?  tee hee, yay, you! 

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:28 PM (8lmkt)

457 Have you ever tried to re-tweet a fart? Nasty business, I tell you. 

Posted by: Jen Psocki at April 28, 2014 05:28 PM (Dwehj)

458 Erika Johnsen has a good piece up at HotGas congratulating Mia Love, who looks to be going to Washington. Thank goodness good citizens are willing to do this.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2014 05:29 PM (Px4PF)

459 SMOD is a teasing bitch. And fuck you too Yellowstone.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 05:29 PM (AO9UG)

460 We will continue to explore new and creative ways to step on our dicks.

Posted by: Establishment Repuplican spokesperson at April 28, 2014 05:29 PM (8MjqI)

461 The Pentagon is about to destroy over $1billion in ammo. --- So is the Kremlin, the difference is...they'll gain 20 million serfs.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 28, 2014 05:30 PM (TfdkD)

462 The last thing the GOPe wants is the power to deliver on what its base actually wants, which would derail the gravy train they got into politics for in the first place.

The Presidency and a filibuster-proof Congress would not let them make the excuses they keep making, such as The Filibuster! Don't have the House! Don't have the Senate! Don't have the White House! Don't have Skittles!

No, they want just enough power to be able to leverage the deals that feather their nests.

Posted by: davidt at April 28, 2014 05:30 PM (PAplM)

463 We can't trust Obama to enforce the laws he's written - and we expect him to enforce one of ours.  That's if Reid even lets it hit the floor for a vote.

Why we would try and effect a major change on policy with control of one house? 

The only way this begins to work for me is if para 1.0 is "Repeals Obamacare in its entirety.".

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2014 05:30 PM (Aqvh6)

464 We will continue to explore new and creative ways to step on our dicks.

Posted by: Establishment Repuplican spokesperson at April 28, 2014 10:29 PM (8MjqI)


that is some funny shit, right there, I don't care who you are

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:30 PM (8lmkt)

465 I just assumed the ammo was 'old' and some dumbass thinks it's expired.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 05:31 PM (L02KD)

466 >>>That good, eh? tee hee, yay, you! It's not mine yet, but it's mine to lose. One more phone interview on Wednesday, and I could be loading the uhaul by June 1. (By 'loading the uhaul', of course, I mean paying someone to move all this shit)

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 28, 2014 05:31 PM (Pvcl5)

467 They can't make Obama do anything now.

How do they expect to force him to enforce any other laws?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 28, 2014 05:31 PM (JS0vr)

468 So is the Kremlin, the difference is...they'll gain 20 million serfs. Posted by: Buzz --------------- OK..., there is a distinction between 'destroy', and 'use up'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 28, 2014 05:31 PM (aDwsi)

469 The Federal government is a huge cancerous tumor killing the Country and its citizens.


This is one of the greatest fallacies I have seen. The people are responsible for their governance.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 05:31 PM (XRSxm)

470 459 SMOD is a teasing bitch. And fuck you too Yellowstone. -- Just you wait until SMOD hits Yellowstone. It might be more catastrophic than Obama...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 28, 2014 05:32 PM (TfdkD)

471 447 THIS!!! Unless it was somehow Rick Perry. And, even then, they'd hobble him and nothing would change. Hmm, if the Senate flipped in '014 and RP could grab the MFM by the short curlies and get them to straighten the fuck up, we might have a chance at starting to undo what's been done to the nation. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 28, 2014 10:25 PM (0HooB) The MFM is the Democrats. It is not some separate thing.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 05:32 PM (AO9UG)

472 So did anyone come along and bitch about ace trying to fire us up against the gutless cocksuckers that our supposed to be the GOP leadership like Drew got accused this morning for daring to report what these cowards are doing?

Posted by: Buzzion at April 28, 2014 05:32 PM (trVzJ)

473 Just had to do a little unscheduled beer run.

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 10:16 PM (8lmkt)

I don't know what to say.

Unscheduled?

Booze runs should be scheduled several months in advance, with alternate routes planned for floods, snow storms, civil unrest, etc.

All of this should be obvious to you once you hit 30. But for now, just fight through the chaos.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2014 05:33 PM (QFxY5)

474 469 The Federal government is a huge cancerous tumor killing the Country and its citizens. This is one of the greatest fallacies I have seen. The people are responsible for their governance. Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 10:31 PM (XRSxm) Both things are true.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 05:33 PM (AO9UG)

475 The GOP has been lying for 50 years.

They had a brief fling with actually trying to enact what they said they would in the '90's. (mostly to stick it to Clinton)

Since then they haven't done one thing to slow the growth of government. To the contrary.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 28, 2014 05:33 PM (JS0vr)

476 453 Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 10:22 PM (buZ/

I might just be that the GOP stands for too many things that most people don't believe are beneficial to them.

Abortion is being curtailed. Gun Rights are being expanded.

We are winning on those fronts.

The GOP's positions on Gay marriage, immigration, expansion of benefits, reductions and social changes in the military? Not so much.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 28, 2014 10:27 PM (JS0vr)


I see the GOP being complicit on most if not all those things on your list! People will not vote for a party that does everything the democrats do and does not counter anything the democrats say about them. So many GOP politicians use and accept the dem talking points as foundational facts and build from there. There is no questioning of dem reasoning. There is no outreach. No, we get a consultant insulated politician and a poorly messaged and expensive airwaves war.


Newt, despite acting like a Roman Governor, was and is very good at throwing away all their straw man arguments and false dichotomies. We need someone like him who is likeable and doesn't have as many skeletons in his closet as Bill Clinton or thirty five ex wives.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 05:33 PM (buZ/8)

477 Winning!

Posted by: John *hic* Boehner [/i] [/b] at April 28, 2014 05:34 PM (5ikDv)

478 Alllllmmmmooooooossssssssttttttt There.

(to political irrelevancy and Party disintegration)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 28, 2014 05:36 PM (JS0vr)

479 just fight through the chaos.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2014 10:33 PM (QFxY5)


yeah, I knew I had one at home and I had 2 at the bar (it's on the way!) but, as always, I drank that and went, dang, that's not enough!  there's some fancy-schmancy bottle of ale in there that somebody gave me, it's got a cork and shit.  people don't understand that i drink the cowboy koolaid because that is what i like.  sigh.

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:37 PM (8lmkt)

480 Depressing post is depressing. Need ONT to make sads go away…

Posted by: I want my ONT at April 28, 2014 05:37 PM (AymDN)

481 ONT

ONT

ONT

why, cobs, have you forsaken us?

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:38 PM (8lmkt)

482 So did anyone come along and bitch about ace trying to fire us up against the gutless cocksuckers that our supposed to be the GOP leadership like Drew got accused this morning for daring to report what these cowards are doing? Now who can argue with that?

Posted by: Olson Johnson at April 28, 2014 05:38 PM (30eLQ)

483 Maetenloch Maetenloch Maetenloch!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 28, 2014 05:38 PM (ojnk6)

484 Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 10:37 PM (8lmkt)

I buy rye by the case.

Drinking is serious....why don't you kids understand that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2014 05:39 PM (QFxY5)

485 that is a very cute pic of the 3 naked lesbians on your website, hat!!  i'm not even gay and I enjoyed it immensely!

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:39 PM (8lmkt)

486 Willow Magic please

Posted by: Thunderb at April 28, 2014 05:39 PM (zOTsN)

487 Craig Ferguson been kicked out.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 28, 2014 05:40 PM (ZPrif)

488 Drinking is essential, gout is serious.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 05:40 PM (L02KD)

489 This is one of the greatest fallacies I have seen. The people are responsible for their governance. Really? How are we supposed to make informed decisions when we're constantly misinformed and the candidates they pick for us are all lying assholes who do the opposite of what they say on the campaign trail once their in office? Huh?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 05:40 PM (0HooB)

490 Yeah you get Democrat or Republican. Or in Seattle it is Democrat or Democrat.
Thanks jungle primary!

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 09:49 PM (buZ/


Or in Seattle, Democrat or socialist.  Even my local rep., Mark Miloscia, (longtime  D) has switched to R for this election. To run in the WA senate against a D.  I am not fooled.  

Posted by: flounder at April 28, 2014 05:41 PM (Kkt/i)

491 okay, while we're waiting (taps foot, does not really want to go  here), the market kinda shit the bed today, at least in my personal portfolio.  wtf????

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:41 PM (8lmkt)

492 Bourbon and a cigar at the ready for the ONT. I heard the theme tonight is GOP outreach to Thai trannies. They could swing Ohio.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 05:41 PM (AO9UG)

493 When I'm First Gentleman, the chandelier in the front hall of the White House is where I'm going to be asking all female visitors to deposit their brassieres as they arrive. It will be awesome to be back!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, on vacation at April 28, 2014 05:43 PM (Px4PF)

494 Never.Again.Never.Forget! Let it burn. I was done with the Republican Party. Now I'm actively against it. No more $ no more votes evah! Will vote and testify against them for my last few decades on earth. Thanks for nothing bitches!

Posted by: Fewenuff at April 28, 2014 05:43 PM (wDwaq)

495 I heard the theme tonight is GOP outreach to Thai trannies.

They could swing Ohio.>>

That might swing San Fran better than Ohio.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 28, 2014 05:43 PM (5bbdJ)

496 Bourbon and a cigar at the ready for the ONT. I heard the theme tonight is GOP outreach to Thai trannies. They could swing Ohio. Not after surgery.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 05:43 PM (0HooB)

497 495 I heard the theme tonight is GOP outreach to Thai trannies. They could swing Ohio.>> That might swing San Fran better than Ohio. Posted by: The Hickster at April 28, 2014 10:43 PM (5bbdJ) *sigh*

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2014 05:44 PM (AO9UG)

498
Those damn meddling Canadians with their bacon, syrup and moose's.

Posted by: Lace Whig Party at April 28, 2014 05:44 PM (mETGQ)

499 Got an OT certain to bring forth the ONT:

A catalog came in the mail today.  On page one is a modified polaroid camera with a short focal length.  See you take your smart phone with a picture shown on the display, set it on this device, and get an instant hard copy of your digital picture.

W.T.F.?!?

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 28, 2014 05:44 PM (L02KD)

500 haha, ont's up! 

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 05:44 PM (8lmkt)

501 485 that is a very cute pic of the 3 naked lesbians on your website, hat!! i'm not even gay and I enjoyed it immensely! Wait, what?!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, on vacation at April 28, 2014 05:44 PM (Px4PF)

502 This is one of the greatest fallacies I have seen. The people are responsible for their governance. Posted by: cm9000 And when the government refuses to follow its own Constitution? When political appointees actively hunt down Americans that voice an opposing view? When virtually the entire country is under surveillance? When representatives are voted in, time after time who immediately oppose their constituents and use the machinery of money and power to remain in their seats? Have you been to DC? It is a sprawling filthy city crawling over 4 States like an octopus awash with tax payer money. I understand your point but when taxes are raised to fund bonuses to IRS workers so that those IRS workers can target political opponents you don't see the basic problem? The game is now completely corrupt. You try to play by their rules and you lose.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 28, 2014 05:45 PM (3HWf6)

503 Comments slowing...could this be because people are furiously refreshing a new HQ tab for the ONT? Nahhh, crazy talk....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 28, 2014 05:45 PM (ojnk6)

504 ONT is up.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 28, 2014 05:45 PM (0HooB)

505 Mia Love, who looks to be going to Washington. Thank goodness good citizens are willing to do this.
Posted by: MTF




Love managed to lose the seat in a district Romney carried by 38 points once.  I'm sure she'll be able to do so again this year.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 28, 2014 05:46 PM (kdS6q)

506 On the other hand, if Republicans in in 2014 and 2016, maybe Democrats would be more amenable to an offer of separation.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 28, 2014 05:47 PM (TF/YA)

507 How many of these announcements have we seen and by whom in the GOP? My point being there is no one particular GOP Representative.  I think a lot of it is just for face time and/or some brilliant consultant's advise that these GOP announcements will make inroads with the 'ever increasingly important Hispanic and Latino vote'.  Meanwhile, UnoVision etc. spiel 'rat garbage point to them.  Tough.

Any plan promising enforcement of any immigration law by this administration is a fucking joke.  There is no law anymore in the event there is a political/popular benefit to the admin or Barky, particularly the latter.  All else from love of country to basic notions of decency be damned.  The 'rats are so far gone in the hands of the extremists, that there are no honest brokers there. 

 And the sheeple are clueless.  How about a shout out to those that helped so much:  Fuck you MFM.  Fuck you public employee unions and teacher unions and Academia.   Fuck you Hollywood. 

Sad, sad, days for the visions of our founders and the memories of many.

Posted by: eureka! at April 28, 2014 05:47 PM (q7DBM)

508 Really? How are we supposed to make informed decisions when we're constantly misinformed and the candidates they pick for us are all lying assholes who do the opposite of what they say on the campaign trail once their in office?

Huh?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 28, 2014 10:40 PM (0HooB)



Self-Governance, like integrity is hard. So lets just abandon it.

Posted by: cm9000 at April 28, 2014 05:48 PM (XRSxm)

509 okay, while we're waiting (taps foot, does not really want to go here), the market kinda shit the bed today, at least in my personal portfolio. wtf????

Posted by: Peaches at April 28, 2014 10:41 PM (8lmkt)


The Dow and S&P were up moderately today, while the Nasdaq was down by about one point.  Don't know what you have in your personal portfolio, but it sounds like you might be exposed to idiosyncratic risk.

Posted by: CQD at April 28, 2014 05:48 PM (tcvYF)

510 No Ace, we are getting something out of the deal. We are getting lied to and fucked over. And we won't forget it.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2014 05:49 PM (sThK8)

511 ONT!

Posted by: flounder at April 28, 2014 05:50 PM (Kkt/i)

512 286 In exciting News of Doom, California has underfunded it's pension system by half a trillion dollars. Posted by: Costanza Defense Oh nooooos! They haven't beat us in IL for underfunding pensions have they? TY corrupt IL pols, we might have lost first place.

Posted by: The Farmer at April 28, 2014 05:53 PM (eBupg)

513 490 Yeah you get Democrat or Republican. Or in Seattle it is Democrat or Democrat.
Thanks jungle primary!


Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 09:49 PM (buZ/

Or in Seattle, Democrat or socialist. Even my local rep., Mark Miloscia, (longtime D) has switched to R for this election. To run in the WA senate against a D. I am not fooled.

Posted by: flounder at April 28, 2014 10:41 PM (Kkt/i)


Heh. I know Tracey Eide. Complete Socialist. Glad she retired.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 28, 2014 05:58 PM (buZ/8)

514 Hey geniuses, If illegal labor is cheap labor, it won't be cheap when it's made legal. Juan Mohammad Singh Wang is going to want a raise just as soon as he can legally sue you.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at April 28, 2014 06:11 PM (lGUFK)

515 Hey GOPe, Your illegal Guatemalan nanny, Mexican lawn crew, Indian coder, and Korean manicurist want 10 years back pay with overtime. No amnesty you!

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at April 28, 2014 06:26 PM (lGUFK)

516 If illegal labor is cheap labor, it won't be cheap when it's made legal.

Juan Mohammad Singh Wang is going to want a raise just as soon as he can legally sue you.>>

But then they are just legal unemployed people. If one watches 1920s-40s movies there were lots of maids and other help employed in middle class homes. Then those jobs all went away due to those people having opportunities to make more elsewhere. Well it may have been tech to that drove them out. A washing machine for dishes and clothes probably hurt that field of work a lot.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 28, 2014 06:33 PM (5bbdJ)

517 "But then they are just legal unemployed people." Oh good. Just what we need more unemployed people. Especially unskilled, unemployed people who don't speak English getting free stuff. "Then those jobs all went away due to those people having opportunities to make more elsewhere." Yep, they went from maids to neurosurgeons overnight. We'll have to have more illegals to pick the crops for cheap wages.

Posted by: Micihgan and Oiho at April 28, 2014 06:57 PM (lGUFK)

518 Dear Republican Party, I have been okay with some immigration reform since Bush was President. I'm a squish on immigration compared to most Morons. This. Is. Bullshit. For the first time in my life I am now saying in public, I DO NOT TRUST YOU. F.E.T.E.

Posted by: Beth at April 28, 2014 07:11 PM (Epq7Y)

519 Diaz-Balart has always said there can be a deal. He's pro-amnesty and path-to-citizenship. You can go to him any day, any week, any month for a positive outlook on it. It's not news. As one friend who covers the nuts and bolts of Congress for industry told me weeks ago, "They probably don't have time to even pass the RULE for the bill this session, much less the bill." Allah finds these immigration posts rile up the troops and get a lot of comments, and it's all the same rehash so it's easy on him. That and polls is most of what he does these days. Makes it look like he is working when he's just emailing it in. I remember when he was sharp of mind and would dig for things, back before he became a soft, lazy Salem chair-warmer. Shows me age, I guess.

Posted by: Adjoran at April 28, 2014 07:59 PM (QIQ6j)

520 And the reason for the GOP to push an immigration deal when they only hold the House, and not the Senate nor White House is ....     

To snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2014...?

Such appears to be the wisdom of the GOP LOSERship...  They are nothing but consistent in their vision. 

Posted by: Seipherd at April 28, 2014 08:51 PM (1etLu)

521 Tell the farblegarbing GOP policymakers that WHEN THE DAMNED FENCE HAS BEEN BUILT, AND WE FINALLY CONTROL WHO COMES OVER THE BORDER, then --and only then!-- will We The People entertain ANY debate whatever about "legitimizing" the status of people who remain in this country illegally. Period. No ifs, no buts; no "acts of love"; no sob stories about "living in the shadows {=sniffle=}". BUILD THE FENCE. CONTROL THE BORDER. THEN WE'LL TALK. - - - - - - (I no longer believe what you SAY you'll do, you damned Establicrat GOPers. I only believe what I see you HAVE DONE. You have pissed away any trust I had in you.)

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at April 28, 2014 09:36 PM (NpRfo)

522 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 29, 2014 12:46 AM (eAJwE)

523 Just a very inspiring person- An American priest, Fr. Walter Ciszek imprisoned in the notorious Lubyianka (sp) prison and then working in terrible conditions in Siberia while also officiating at Mass at clandestine services. The work to have him canonized goes forward. He had written two books, "With God in Russia" and a wonderful resource about faith in very tough times, "He Leadeth Me". Here;s an article about his life: http://catholicstand.com/father-walter-ciszek-god-russia/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2014 01:13 AM (XyM/Y)

524 Republicans: Guaranteeing a Democratic Majority since 2006...

Posted by: Dead Cops and Murdered Women at April 29, 2014 07:30 AM (XO6WW)

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