December 30, 2010

Good News! China's Defense Minister Says They Are Preparing For, "Military Conflict In Every Strategic Direction"
— DrewM

Boy good thing we are facing any peer level competitors and could afford to scrap F-22 production since it was "waste" and "outdated".

Seems not everyone got the message that it is now all about unicorns (and domestic programs) and not defense.

"In the coming five years, our military will push forward preparations for military conflict in every strategic direction," said Liang Guanglie in an interview published by several state-backed newspapers in China. "We may be living in peaceful times, but we can never forget war, never send the horses south or put the bayonets and guns away," Mr Liang added.

China repeatedly says it is planning a "peaceful rise" but the recent pace and scale of its military modernisation has alarmed many of its neighbours in the Asia-Pacific, including Japan which described China's military build-up as a "global concern" this month.

Mr Liang's remarks come at a time of increasingly difficult relations between the Chinese and US armed forces which a three-day visit by his counterpart Robert Gates is intended to address.

And yet we expect them to be helpful with Iran and North Korea. Yeah, good luck with that.

Now, the Chinese Defense Minister may or may not be a big player in their power structure but the fact that he's making this kind of bellicose statement with the North Korea situation boiling up again and Gates about show up for a visit shows China's leadership wants to send a message.

Statecraft isn't simply about going to war, it also involves making your adversaries think you might to influence their decision making, create opportunities to extract concessions and a whole host of other things.

What's our response going to be?

The story was via "Galrahn" who runs the indispensable Navy-centric blog "Information Dissemination".

He also has an interesting piece up now at the US Naval Institute's blog on the Top 5 Navy stories of the year.

Check out the whole list but Number 5 is recent and it's big....

#5 – Russia Buys Mistral Amphibious Ships from France.

There is already a lot of complaining coming from NATO nations with the recent Christmas surprise that France will sell Mistral class amphibious ships to Russia. While it is absolutely true the Mistral class is a dynamic ship capable of supporting several peacetime missions for Russia, it is the capabilities of waging war that has Russia’s neighbors nervous. From the US perspective, promises that Russia will be utilizing the ships in the Pacific is hardly better news considering that means the ships will be primarily for demonstrating Russian resolve in territorial disputes with Japan. It could be worse, Russia could base the ships in the Black Sea and give Georgia plenty of reasons to be nervous. No matter how one looks at it, the Mistral class is a weapon of war well designed towards Russian strengths (like attack helicopters) and Russian requirements for power projection, and does represent a major transfer of knowledge and capability from a NATO friend to a former enemy. The dynamics of the deal itself are tailor made for political firebranding.

How's that reset thing working out again?

Never mind, we got the START deal done so it's all good.

Posted by: DrewM at 11:48 AM | Comments (63)
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1 Obungler: "There ain't nothing I can't bugger.  Worldwide!"

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 30, 2010 11:50 AM (o3bYL)

2 Good News! China's Defense Minister Says They Are Preparing For, "Conflict In Every Strategic Direction"

Then we're damn lucky that we have an unprecedentedly brilliant person who plays 11-dimensional chess as our leader, aren't we?

Posted by: ya2daup at December 30, 2010 11:51 AM (UzjcV)

3

If they're going to move they'd better hurry while they have Jugears McFeckless running the circus here.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 30, 2010 11:51 AM (DLxD/)

4 Relax, I got it all under control.

Posted by: Mini-Mao at December 30, 2010 11:54 AM (ZTPeW)

5 This is just posturing.

Why would they want to seriously challenge the US.

What other part of the world has a more stable market for their merch than the
US? South America? Europe? Russia?

They cannot be that stupid!

Posted by: McLovin at December 30, 2010 11:56 AM (j0IcY)

6 Luckily, we have lots of cruise ships what we can convert to military use.....the shuffleboard anti-aircraft systems are state-of-the-art.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2010 11:56 AM (et42O)

7 Mrs Oldsailor returned from a trip to China recently and gave me these facts They don't give a fuck about the enviorment. They don't give a fuck about there working class They don't give a fuck about anyone that is not of chinese ancestry. They don't give a fuck about international law such as intellectual property. What saves us is the triad of old school hate between the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese. Know this, Had the Japanese got as far as India, Gandhi's theories of "passive resistance" would have floated down the Ganges River with his bayoneted, beheaded carcass. -- Mike Vanderboegh. China is not to be ignored.

Posted by: Oldsailor at December 30, 2010 11:57 AM (AovJ3)

8 Putin is working as fast as he can on restarting the cold war "on the cheap".

Obambi is working as fast as he can to allow him to do it "on the cheap" by degrading out military as fast as he can.

History has shown over and over again when we degrade out military until it is unprepared someone inevitably gets adventurous and we wind up in a major war that kills millions and spends trillions.

Too bad History begins every morning at 08:00 for Democrats.

Posted by: Vic at December 30, 2010 11:58 AM (M9Ie6)

9 They cannot be that stupid!

Posted by: McLovin at December 30, 2010 04:56 PM (j0IcY)

So how about this old saw; guess who Germany's greatest trading partner just prior to WWII was?

Posted by: Vic at December 30, 2010 11:59 AM (M9Ie6)

10 Give us the wimmins!

Posted by: 2 Billion Horny Chinamen at December 30, 2010 12:00 PM (GwPRU)

11 You pay now!!!

Posted by: Your Chinese Overlords at December 30, 2010 12:01 PM (SJ6/3)

12 I'll take Great Britain, for the block, Alex

Posted by: justin cord at December 30, 2010 12:01 PM (c0+w5)

13 I bought a souvenir coffee mug at a cool diner in SC. I opened the box and looked at the bottom--of course it a had a made in China stamp, but the stamp was inked on and I wiped it off with my finger. As if they're trying to hide it?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 30, 2010 12:01 PM (DLxD/)

14 Jesus, and we have Jugears McFuckstick as our president.  Great.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 30, 2010 12:01 PM (Z71Vg)

15 Poland? We surrender France?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 30, 2010 12:02 PM (SJ6/3)

16 Buffet over ... you go home now ... you been in charge six decades

Posted by: We've heard this before ... at December 30, 2010 12:02 PM (UzjcV)

17 Is there anything that can be bought here anymore that's actually made here?  I'm serious.   I am willing to spend a few extra dollars for made in America.  I just can't find anything.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 30, 2010 12:03 PM (Z71Vg)

18 As I posted in an earlier thread on this topic, the only upside is that it's French military shipbuilding technology.  Google Carrier + DeGaulle. 

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2010 12:03 PM (8lSIO)

19 Food and some alcohol.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 30, 2010 12:04 PM (SJ6/3)

20 Barry is going to unveil his brand new sure to work white flag strategy.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 30, 2010 12:05 PM (1Jaio)

21 Anyone else play SSI's "People's General"?  They had World War China set for 2005.  The good news from the game is that we win.  Eventually.

Posted by: Methos at December 30, 2010 12:05 PM (Ew1k4)

22 Is there anything that can be bought here anymore that's actually made here?

Hi, there.

Posted by: Toyota Camry at December 30, 2010 12:07 PM (Ew1k4)

23

Posted by: Toyota Camry at December 30, 2010 05:07 PM (Ew1k4)

I was thinking smaller.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 30, 2010 12:08 PM (Z71Vg)

24 You know what we need more of ?
Peace studies .

Posted by: ivy league shitbird at December 30, 2010 12:08 PM (YCW1b)

25 Cartwright, four?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 30, 2010 12:09 PM (DLxD/)

26 War with China and North Korea is not going to be pretty. Except from space. Lots of bright flashes and interesting clouds.

It's gonna suck down here. And for a long time.

Posted by: sifty at December 30, 2010 12:09 PM (yR0zL)

27 Well, we repealed DADT and have a sound committment to diversity.  How's them apples.

Posted by: ed at December 30, 2010 12:09 PM (Urhve)

28 The Chinese should follow Colman McCarthy's advice and require "peace studies" instead of military training at their universities. 

Posted by: Reiver at December 30, 2010 12:09 PM (RFTUX)

29 "It feels good to have an intelligent, thoughtful man in the White House again."
~Some Liberal Douchebag, January 2009

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 30, 2010 12:10 PM (o3bYL)

30 Is there anything made here anymore ?
Lots and lots of firearms and ammunition . So we've got that going for us . Which is nice .

Posted by: ivy league shitbird at December 30, 2010 12:11 PM (YCW1b)

31 commie sock off .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 30, 2010 12:12 PM (YCW1b)

32 Obama is gonna get us all killed or sold into slavery

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 30, 2010 12:13 PM (0GFWk)

33 Probably only 25 million or so, 50 million tops.

Posted by: bill ayers at December 30, 2010 12:15 PM (S5YRY)

34 I was thinking smaller.

How about us?

Posted by: Frango Mints at December 30, 2010 12:17 PM (Ew1k4)

35 Sooner or later, we're gonna get pwned if we keep this Prez around for much longer.

Posted by: EC at December 30, 2010 12:19 PM (f4TZ2)

36 Sooner or later, we're gonna get pwned if we keep this Prez around for much longer. Looks to me like JugEars has already pawned everything to pay for those union and academic payoffs.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2010 12:25 PM (et42O)

37 Every time I see a contrail I"m diving for cover. Even if I'm driving down the freeway.

Posted by: Barbarian at December 30, 2010 12:25 PM (EL+OC)

38 Obama is gonna get us all killed

Feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 30, 2010 12:28 PM (dKiGf)

39 Gird your loins!

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 30, 2010 12:28 PM (cJtVZ)

40 What do Richard Lugar, Scott Brown, the Maine Idiots, Murcokeski and the rest of the R Brain Trust have to say about this development?  Something?  Anything? 

Posted by: ed at December 30, 2010 12:29 PM (Urhve)

41 Jeez, we passed DADT and START.  What else do you want?

Posted by: R Brain Trust at December 30, 2010 12:30 PM (dKiGf)

42 We have nothing to worry about as long as we're into the Chinese for $700 bills. You know, borrow a thousand bucks, the bank owns you, borrow a million, you own the bank. As long as we don't have any silly ideas like inflating away our debts we have nothing to fear from Chinese military expansionism. Oh, wait....

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 12:30 PM (MrMxG)

43 As I posted in an earlier thread on this topic, the only upside is that it's French military shipbuilding technology. Google Carrier + DeGaulle. Posted by: pep at December 30, 2010 05:03 PM (8lSIO)

That Mistral-class thing looks like a piece of shit compared to our amphibious assault ships. Look up some pics, the radar cross-section has to be the size of Hawaii. Quick google search says under 20 knots top speed and air defense consists two dual-launchers for missiles (apparently manually-launched) similar to our Stingers. Compare to our Wasp class: 23 knots, 2 Sea Sparrow launchers, 2 RIM-116 launchers, and 2 Phalanx CWIS.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at December 30, 2010 12:30 PM (6NOXN)

44 But, but .....but.......If we disarm, then the world will love us and it will be a peaceful place!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at December 30, 2010 12:31 PM (UK9cE)

45 Oh and Obama might be playing 11 dimensional chess, but we're playing 27 dimensional chess with a super secret power that you rubes would not understand.

Posted by: R Brain Trust at December 30, 2010 12:31 PM (jUV35)

46 Even better news: China is testing a new stealth fighter: http://tinyurl.com/2b95xb9

Posted by: Anachronda at December 30, 2010 12:32 PM (6fER6)

47 odb the Russians don't need their LST's to be better than ours, just better than Georgia's defenses.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 12:32 PM (MrMxG)

48 Jugears McFuckstick

That made me physically laugh out loud.....

Posted by: Sponge at December 30, 2010 12:33 PM (UK9cE)

49 Anyone else play SSI's "People's General"?  They had World War China set for 2005.  The good news from the game is that we win.  Eventually.

Posted by: Methos at December 30, 2010 05:05 PM (Ew1k4)


one of the few SSI games I wanted but never bought

Posted by: The Dude at December 30, 2010 12:40 PM (Ig1Wo)

50 And Barry is having a really difficult time deciding which ice cream cone flavor he wants today while vacationing in Hawaii.  Never mind North Korea, Iran, Venuszuela and China...never mind unemployment rates off the charts...hey, let's pass the "Dream Act".  Me?....I'm guessing I better brush up on "Mandarin".

Posted by: Sparky at December 30, 2010 12:41 PM (r0u40)

51 Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 05:32 PM (MrMxG)

Good point.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at December 30, 2010 12:45 PM (6NOXN)

52 Say what you morons will about McCain, he was on the case about China.  I went to a McCain event in '08, and he indicated that the challenge of China would be a main focus of his foreign policy.

Obambi, not so much.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at December 30, 2010 12:45 PM (s3dMx)

53 Great, another reason to drink. This is going to be a fun fucking decade...

Posted by: Armando at December 30, 2010 12:47 PM (N//pm)

54 oh sweet, finally my investment in a Chinese mail order bride is going to pan out . i welcome our new communist masters and i am fervently preparing a detailed list of my neighbors and their material possessions. my only revulsion is that in the near future i  have to look into my cute little puppy dog eyes and quickly bash him over the head, so i can have him for dinner. oh well, when in rome...

Posted by: befuddled at December 30, 2010 12:47 PM (xJU23)

55

To all interested parties: USS Scorpion will be accepting a limited number of passengers for a voyage to Melbourne, Australia.  Inquiries welcome as to remaining space available.  Departure date uncertain as yet.

Posted by: Cdr. Dwight Towers at December 30, 2010 01:11 PM (xy9wk)

56

@49: "Anyone else play SSI's "People's General"?  They had World War China set for 2005.  The good news from the game is that we win.  Eventually.

Posted by: Methos at December 30, 2010 05:05 PM (Ew1k4)


one of the few SSI games I wanted but never bought"

-----------

http://tinyurl.com/35f6qj5

People's General is downloadable..

Posted by: Cdr. Dwight Towers at December 30, 2010 01:18 PM (xy9wk)

57 Yep-per, whenever we wanna go fight, we're just gonna cash in all those US bonds we're holding...

Posted by: China at December 30, 2010 01:20 PM (kho+0)

58

It's a good thing America's strategic missile stocks/technology are limited to what Russia holds by the START treaty, considering China is probably sprinting in a different direction right now. 

In a perfect world China would never be a threat and the world doesn't get more perfect than when BHO is POTUS./sarc

Posted by: Speller at December 30, 2010 02:20 PM (J74Py)

59 We'll be lucky if Obama doesn't just hand the Chinese the fucking keys. Seriously.

Then MSNBC will have a two hour special to convince the 52% that America wasn't really all that great while it lasted.

Posted by: sifty at December 30, 2010 02:48 PM (yR0zL)

60 B+rry's got this under control? right?

Posted by: torabora at December 30, 2010 02:57 PM (QK9Bc)

61 ""Military Conflict In Every Strategic Direction"" That reminds me of Stephen Leacock's immortal phrase: "Lord Ronald said nothing; he flung himself from the room, flung himself upon his horse and rode madly off in all directions. "

Posted by: Dr Mabuse at December 30, 2010 04:25 PM (jgkJo)

62 So, they are going to fight in every direction eh...?

Well then, it sounds like we have them surrounded already.


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