July 30, 2015

Glenn Loury, John McWhorter Discuss the Religion of Antiracism, and Its Current Pope Ta-Nehisi Coates
— Ace

A very interesting Bloggingheads (and every Loury/McWhorter dialogue on Bloggingheads is interesting, and is recommended). Now, they talk about how Obama has "evolved" (in a good, embiggening way) in office, but here's the easy way to avoid that nonsense: skip to 7::06 as they begin to discuss race, and the Religion of Antiracism, generally.

McWhorter is chiefly there to put forth what I'll call the Ace of Spaces Conjecture that most of tribal signaling -- genuflecting to Ta-Nehisi Coates, for example -- is not a form of politics, but is properly understood as a form of religion. You're not supposed to ask about the parts of Ta-Nehisi Coates' claims that don't make sense, in the same way you're not really supposed to ask how Noah fit all those animals on the ark. These are not political arguments, he asserts, but "sermons."

(I've previously called such non-political "political" statements "prayers" and "devotions.")

Glenn Loury entertains that idea, but he's chiefly there to criticize the low state of racial discourse in America, focusing on the black side of that racial discourse, and Charles M. Blow in particular, whom he calls a "disgrace."

Later in the discussion, he also challenges Ta-Nehisi Coates' particular expression of Black Male Authenticity (the street bravado, noting he had a "tool" (a gun) with which to fix a "motherf**cker") as damaging and degrading.

Oh, and he rails against people like David Brooks for their racial condescending -- if you didn't read that already, for one thing, well played, but you can read it here, and see David Brooks ask, solicitously, if he's even permitted to comment upon Ta-Nehisi Coates' book.

This angers Loury, who demands, sensibly, that black people be treated just as you'd treat any other political actor. You are, in short, permitted to disagree with them or critique them without securing permission to do so beforehand.

McWhorter has meanwhile fleshed out the Ace of Spades Conjecture in an article in the Daily Beast.

McWhorter objects to the anti-intellectual, religion-like screams of "heresy" which are spat at anyone (including himself, a black man) who challenges the religion:

One is not to question, and people can be quite explicit about that. For example, in the "Conversation" about race that we are so often told we need to have, the tacit idea is that black people will express their grievances and whites will agree--again, no questions, or at least not real ones. Here and there lip service is paid to the idea that the Conversation would not be such a one-way affair, but just as typical is the praise that a piece like Reni Eddo-Lodge’s elicits, openly saying that white people who object to any black claims about racism are intolerably mistaken and barely worth engagement (Eddo-Lodge now has a contract to expand the blog post into a book). Usefully representative is a letter that The New York Times chose to print, which was elicited by David Brooks's piece on Coates’s book, in which a white person chides Brooks for deigning to even ask whether he is allowed to object to some of Coates’s claims....

As such, even Brooks has gotten the religion, critiquing Coates’s book while also making sure to say that "every conscientious American should read it." Brooks, here, is genuflecting, as America now does in general to Antiracist scripture. One is to accept that beyond a certain point--and one arrives at the point quite quickly--one is to treat logic as optional and simply have faith....

The call for people to soberly "acknowledge" their White Privilege as a self-standing, totemic act is based on the same justification as acknowledging one’s fundamental sinfulness is as a Christian. One is born marked by original sin; to be white is to be born with the stain of unearned privilege.

The proper response to original sin is to embrace the teachings of Jesus, although one will remain always a sinner nevertheless. The proper response to White Privilege is to embrace the teachings of--well, you can fill in the name or substitute others--with the understanding that you will always harbor the Privilege nevertheless. Note that many embrace the idea of inculcating white kids with their responsibility to acknowledge Privilege from as early an age as possible, in sessions starting as early as elementary school. This, in [one] sense, is Sunday school.

One objection McWhorter lodges is that there is no actual political demand here -- he feels, in many ways, this spares white people from any further need to act politically, because they've already Confessed Their Sins and hence are, as the catechism has it, now forgiven from sin.

And not just white people -- both Loury and McWhorter note the underperformance of black students in school, and want to know where are the calls for tangible action to address this in the black community. Actions beyond merely demanding that white people Confess Their Original Sins.

He doesn't dwell on that too long, but notes that's one of the things that differentiates an actual politics from a religion -- politics implies tangible political action, whereas religion can be a purely metaphysical gesture.

A very interesting dialogue -- well worth your time (as long as you skip that first 7:05).

Posted by: Ace at 11:41 AM | Comments (674)
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1 back jit

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2015 11:41 AM (qCMvj)

2 >>One is born marked by original sin; to be white is to be born with the stain of unearned privilege. Heh. Nailed it.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 11:44 AM (NOIQH)

3 do we need to read the post before we comment? Anytime I see a name like "Ta-Nehisi Coates" I tend to lose my ability to concentrate for more tha

Posted by: mallfly at July 30, 2015 11:44 AM (qSIlh)

4 also, where does Cecil Turtle fit in here? Can he be accused of hard shell privilege?

Posted by: mallfly at July 30, 2015 11:46 AM (qSIlh)

5 I thought there was some action implied w/all this white privilege stuff: get in the back of the bus, don't complain when we dismiss/marginalize you politically, and sit back and take it when we strike out at whitey. Kinda like Obama lecturing that we all had to put up with the "inconvenience" of all those BLM protests blocking bridges during rush hour and whatnot.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 11:46 AM (NOIQH)

6 Ta-Nehisi has exquisite creases.

Posted by: David Brooks at July 30, 2015 11:46 AM (HstNY)

7 Ace you forgot to mention that Ta-Nehisi Coates is an excellent writer.

Posted by: buzzion at July 30, 2015 11:47 AM (z/Ubi)

8 >>Anytime I see a name like "Ta-Nehisi Coates" I tend to lose my ability to concentrate for more... McWhorter is worth reading for. He's like Paglia - usually has an interesting take even if you might not agree with it.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 11:47 AM (NOIQH)

9 McWhorter is one of those people I generally enjoy reading, even if I disagree.

Posted by: Lea at July 30, 2015 11:47 AM (lIU4e)

10 hmmm, I need more caffeine for this one

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2015 11:49 AM (qCMvj)

11 One objection McWhorter lodges is that there is no actual political demand here -- he feels, in many ways, this spares white people from any further need to act politically, because they've already Confessed Their Sins and hence are, as the catechism has it, now forgiven from sin. That's not entirely accurate, though, is it? The Left has designated one nebulous group The Powerful, and twisted the adage "With great power comes great responsibility" to say that "The Powerful must surrender their strength". It's an inevitable result of a worldview obsessed with power and dominance, as all Marxist thought ultimately is.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 30, 2015 11:49 AM (2l5vw)

12 That's a lot of words, bro.

Posted by: Dang at July 30, 2015 11:49 AM (2oWD2)

13 Nah

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2015 11:49 AM (xWW96)

14 The proper response to White Privilege is FYNQ.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at July 30, 2015 11:51 AM (om5+S)

15 light skinned privilege! "Historically in the United States, whites have always had more privileges than people of color. These privileges include higher position jobs, better education, and health care assistance. These unfair privileges cause people of color to see white skin as preferable and having more advantages. Even light-skinned people of color are often given more advantages than dark skinned people." http://tinyurl.com/pr53tjl

Posted by: mallfly at July 30, 2015 11:51 AM (qSIlh)

16 Ace, what you're talking about is "cult" behavior, not religious behavior. In Catholicism for example we don't check our brains at the church door. "The proper response to original sin is to embrace the teachings of Jesus" This is precisely wrong. The proper response to original sin is *baptism* in Christ. Has this person even cracked the fricking Catechism?

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 11:52 AM (EUPoD)

17 I can't watch or listen to it, whatever it is. Are they at least wearing pith helmets and monocles? I want Rajists, not racists. sigh OK gotta go to a retirement party for my neighbor. Later all

Posted by: Bigby's Floating Finger Sausage at July 30, 2015 11:52 AM (3ZtZW)

18 I reject the sins of the father argument and so does everyone else when you bring up their asshole ancestors.

Posted by: X at July 30, 2015 11:52 AM (xGNLA)

19 These people give religion a bad name.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 30, 2015 11:53 AM (x3GpS)

20 Since when has it been forbidden for the faithful to ask questions like "how did he fit all those animals on the ark?"

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 11:53 AM (a42f0)

21 politics implies tangible political action, *chuckle*

Posted by: The GOP at July 30, 2015 11:54 AM (j2FM9)

22 I'm twice damned, thrice if you consider me as a Texan, four if you note I'm an Alabama Alumn.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pale penis person at July 30, 2015 11:54 AM (evdj2)

23 I reject the sins of the father argument and so does everyone else when you bring up their asshole ancestors. But not when bringing up somebody else's. Especially if diminishing that group gives them an advantage.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 30, 2015 11:54 AM (2l5vw)

24 I'm a Believer!

Posted by: The Monkees, 1966 at July 30, 2015 11:54 AM (PHsbY)

25 I'm twice damned, thrice if you consider me as a Texan, four if you note I'm an Alabama Alumn. There is no God but Bama, And Saban is His Prophet. (At least until he gets punked by Auburn again.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 30, 2015 11:55 AM (2l5vw)

26 In a macro sense this theory is applicable to all the liberal victims groups. Dissent cannot be tolerated; you're a _____ist!!!!1!!!!Eleventy!

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 30, 2015 11:56 AM (yn6XZ)

27 24 I'm a Believer!

Posted by: The Monkees, 1966 at July 30, 2015 04:54 PM (PHsbY)


Oh yeah? Well, I'm a True Believer.

Posted by: Eric Hopper at July 30, 2015 11:56 AM (Ta3hG)

28 So, where does this leave Rachel Dolezal? Born of White Privilege. Cursed with the suffering inherent to non-whites.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 11:56 AM (VPLuQ)

29 Meh. The only privilege anyone has is the right to wake up every morning and work your ass off in school or otherwise improving yourself- and making yourself useful to other people so you can get paid. Everywhere around the world the middle class is the same. Everyone knows someone from the middle class or upper class who did not do the necessary things to maintain or improve their lot in society- they took drugs, blew off school, broke the law, etc - and they fell into the lowest class, the welfare class. Unfortunately, a lot of Blacks( not all, of course) see the doing of the necessary things to improve your lot or at least maintain where you are in the middle class which is done pretty much the same way around the world by all races as "acting white". And opt out of their own "privilege" to improve. Which is weird cuz you don't see this anti-success ethic at all in sports. Go figure.

Posted by: naturalfake, Internet Zillionaire at July 30, 2015 11:56 AM (0cMkb)

30 >>> This is precisely wrong. The proper response to original sin is *baptism* in Christ. Correct. Original sin is a pre-condition of mankind. Cardinal and venal sins are additions to Original sin. Its possible he's not Christian, or is merely culturally Christian and not a believer.

Posted by: Bigby's Floating Finger Sausage at July 30, 2015 11:56 AM (3ZtZW)

31 Heh. Were it not blatant idolatry, I would offer unblemished lambs at my Saban Shrine.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pale penis person at July 30, 2015 11:56 AM (evdj2)

32 Ace, what you're talking about is "cult" behavior, not religious behavior. In Catholicism for example we don't check our brains at the church door. "The proper response to original sin is to embrace the teachings of Jesus" This is precisely wrong. The proper response to original sin is *baptism* in Christ. Has this person even cracked the fricking Catechism? *cough* Protestant *cough*

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 11:56 AM (a42f0)

33 Morning all from Okinawa. My internet sucks here, so all I want to say is I hate Fredo, Kerry, hillary, Planned Parent Hood, all Dems, and All RINOs.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2015 11:56 AM (Cn2is)

34 The funny thing is that Germans can't be held responsible for the Holocaust because that was 'years ago,' but white people who live in America now and whose ancestors came to it in the twentieth century are accountable for the slavery outlawed a century earlier.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2015 11:58 AM (j2FM9)

35 I agree that this is more cult behavior than religious.

Because Jim Jones.

*crosses fingers*

Posted by: Dang at July 30, 2015 11:59 AM (2oWD2)

36 I'm a Believer! Posted by: The Monkees, 1966

I'm a retriever!

Posted by: Air Bud at July 30, 2015 11:59 AM (YEelc)

37 "politics implies tangible political action, whereas religion can be a purely metaphysical gesture" Ace, what does this even *mean*? People make entire careers out of theorizing about politics, and Christians, at least, believe that faith without works "is dead." All this guff about religion and race is a head fake. These people are all avoiding the real issue, which is that Uniparty policies have destroyed the black family, destroyed their neighborhoods, and continue to murder them in vast numbers on a daily basis. All this talk of "racism" is bullshit in front of those hard realities, and I wish more of these 'intellectuals' would fucking grow a pair and face the realities they waste so much of their time 'interpreting.' FFS!

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 11:59 AM (EUPoD)

38 Brooks got pantsed by the left for his obsequious review of Coates' book. He probably should have just told him to take his progtard victim bullshit and shove it up his ass.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 30, 2015 11:59 AM (Ta3hG)

39 I'm sick and tired of this 'white privilege' line of bullshit. You know what? If you go to Nigeria or Kenya or Zimfuckingbabwe I'll bet you'll see a lot of 'black privilege'. And if you go to Japan you'll see a lot of 'Asian' privelege. And South and Central America has 'brown privilege'. So fucking what. Grow the fuck up and stop arguing like a bunch of 5 year olds.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 30, 2015 11:59 AM (ApSpw)

40 No problems with your faith argument itself; I've always said the illogic of progressive beliefs is a feature not a bug (you get no metaphysical brownie points for believing the logical), but you should get a better example than the Ark.  Allowing for micro evolution post flood there would have been no problem fitting enough land animal pairs to account for all today's genetic diversity.  It was something like 500 feet long.

Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 12:00 PM (3aNC4)

41 My white privilege allows me to study hard, speak proper English, enjoy reading books, enjoy school, comply with valid authority commands and treat women with respect without having to worry about being insulted with ' quit acting white you Uncle Tom Mother Fucker' . It's worth it's weight in gold.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 30, 2015 12:00 PM (p/8Bt)

42 36 I'm a Believer! Posted by: The Monkees, 1966 I'm a retriever! Posted by: Air Bud at July 30, 2015 04:59 PM (YEelc) I'm a doctor!

Posted by: "Bones" McCoy at July 30, 2015 12:00 PM (z/Ubi)

43 This is precisely wrong. The proper response to original sin is *baptism* in Christ. Has this person even cracked the fricking Catechism? Q. 85. What doth God require of us, that we may escape his wrath and curse, due to us for sin? A. To escape the wrath and curse of God, due to us for sin, God requireth of us faith in Jesus Christ, repentance unto life,[176] with the diligent use of all the outward means whereby Christ communicateth to us the benefits of redemption.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 12:00 PM (a42f0)

44 Anyone who's spent any real time in a real black ghetto and not just visiting knows that blacks discriminate by color and class just as whites or any other group divides itself up so as to understand who belongs with who and where.

It's the media that doesn't talk about this stuff. Either because they don't know or because they think it's aberrant and so is distracting or because it doesn't fit in with their own stereotypes of black folk.

Then too, you have to really know some people and live up next to them to find this stuff out because blacks don't like to air their dirty linen in front of white folk.

If those screeching about equality truly wished equality they would show the lesser side of black life (and I'm not talking about crime so much as day to day living and arguing) as a demonstration of blacks having the same tendencies and foibles as whites do.

Currently all we see is a distorted culture created by the black man's loss of boundaries that's lead to all the crime and nonsense these days.

The Democrats have done more damage to the whites than any David Duke could dream about.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 30, 2015 12:01 PM (x3GpS)

45 in the same way you're not really supposed to ask how Noah fit all those animals on the ark. You're free to ask it. There's a lot fewer types of animals than you'd think, because "species" is a ridiculously inflated number.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 12:01 PM (3edTg)

46 So we no longer about the content of character but of the racial make up? Ok. I know where I stand I guess.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 30, 2015 12:01 PM (+c55T)

47 "Morning all from Okinawa." Wait a minute.... NGUs a Dentist, right. And out of the country, right? Nah...it couldn't have been him

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 12:01 PM (VPLuQ)

48 The entire conversation about racism exists because there is a whole industry of race baiting that is politically and financially profitable. Trying to convince people that racism doesn't exist or that it is less than what the media wants it to be is futile. There is too much invested into having racists having their collective boot on the necks of poor minorities. The only way to fight this messaging is to change who the racists are. I've outlined how this could be accomplished in the previous thread, by simply pointing out the obvious. You can't fight gravity and racism will never go away. The best you can do is point out the true racists.

Posted by: jwest at July 30, 2015 12:01 PM (P/xrJ)

49 Pope Ta-Nehisi Coates ??!? That un-earned title for punk with made-up name and bullshit degree in bullshit subject from bullshit U. ... it all real bullshit.

Posted by: Wonga Taa, King of Jungle at July 30, 2015 12:02 PM (FlRtG)

50 42 36 I'm a Believer! Posted by: The Monkees, 1966 I'm a retriever! Posted by: Air Bud at July 30, 2015 04:59 PM (YEelc) I'm a doctor! Posted by: "Bones" McCoy at July 30, 2015 05:00 PM (z/Ubi) I'm a floor rug!

Posted by: Cecil at July 30, 2015 12:02 PM (j2FM9)

51 Even light-skinned people of color are often given more advantages than dark skinned people." http://tinyurl.com/pr53tjl Posted by: mallfly at July 30, 2015 04:51 PM (qSIlh) Yes, they are - often by other blacks. A dark-skinned person of color I once knew used to complain bitterly about the bigotry of lighter skinned blacks. So when blacks say they can not be racist, does that including being racist about other blacks?

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 30, 2015 12:03 PM (u0lmX)

52 "Morning all from Okinawa." Wait a minute.... NGUs a Dentist, right. And out of the country, right? Nah...it couldn't have been him Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 30, 2015 05:01 PM (VPLuQ) I am a cat lover. I have 3 siamese at home so for sure not me. I was going to say I was a pussy lover, but being a Gentleman and all........?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2015 12:03 PM (Cn2is)

53 33 Morning all from Okinawa. My internet sucks here, so all I want to say is I hate Fredo, Kerry, hillary, Planned Parent Hood, all Dems, and All RINOs. Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 30, 2015 04:56 PM (Cn2is) Wow it's like you're in the next room.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 30, 2015 12:03 PM (p/8Bt)

54 I'm sick and tired of this 'white privilege' line of bullshit.
Posted by: LGoPs

They are trying their damnedest to create a generation of people that believe whites don't work for what they have.  That makes it easier for what white people have to be stolen.  Be it through taxes or other means.

Posted by: Dang at July 30, 2015 12:03 PM (2oWD2)

55 ...one of the things that differentiates an actual politics from a religion -- politics implies tangible political action, whereas religion can be a purely metaphysical gesture. Posted by: Ace at 04:41 PM ________ Indeed! Maybe conservatives who turned their backs on the Republican Party in the name of purity should think about this statement for a while!

Posted by: Begonia at July 30, 2015 12:04 PM (ozfo5)

56 I'm not even going to ask what the sacrament of communion requires one to place in their mouth.

Posted by: imp at July 30, 2015 12:04 PM (XIXZz)

57 The Democrats have done more damage to the whites BLACKS than any David Duke could dream about.

Good grief.

But on second thought, Democrats has done a lot of damage to whites because its allowed those who want easy answers and convenient scapegoats to use whites as their excuse for any of their failures or failings.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 30, 2015 12:04 PM (x3GpS)

58 Bottom line is the United States is probably the least racist nation in the world.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 30, 2015 12:05 PM (p/8Bt)

59 They are trying their damnedest to create a generation of people that believe whites don't work for what they have --------- Well if you're talking about the clintons it's true.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 12:05 PM (z/Ubi)

60 whereas religion can be a purely metaphysical gesture. It could be; It's not supposed to be.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:06 PM (OSs/l)

61 Grey Fox, we could have a nice conversation sometime. My point here is that throwing around the word "religion" as a synonym for "censorious irrational scolding and groupthink" is an absurdly broad brush. It's like putting St. Thomas Aquinas or John Calvin in the same room as Jim Jones. Ludicrous, but ludicrousness aside, it isn't even a rational comparison.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 12:06 PM (EUPoD)

62 Indeed! Maybe conservatives who turned their backs on the Republican Party in the name of purity should think about this statement for a while! You mean blindly follow a group that produces no tangible results?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2015 12:06 PM (j2FM9)

63 Well if you're talking about the clintons it's true. Posted by: Buzzion

It appears that even they had to do some "favors" before they got some "donations".

Posted by: Dang at July 30, 2015 12:06 PM (2oWD2)

64 56 I'm not even going to ask what the sacrament of communion requires one to place in their mouth. Posted by: imp at July 30, 2015 05:04 PM (XIXZz) It's more about where you put your money.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2015 12:07 PM (j2FM9)

65 The best you can do is point out the true racists.

Posted by: jwest


Oh boy! A moral crusade. How energizing!

Posted by: Your GOP Betters[/i] [/b] at July 30, 2015 12:08 PM (VY8H5)

66 Looks like we have a couple Catholics confusing Catholicism with Christianity?

Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 12:08 PM (3aNC4)

67 Ace is smart, incisive, and more than averagely intellectually honest, which is one reason I hang out here, but he tends to hold to a rather cartoonish understanding of religion and role it plays in people's daily lives, culture, and intellectual processes.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 12:09 PM (a42f0)

68 Yet, there's no shortage of being called a racist for questioning Obama, asserting people make their own problems, or even refusing to defer to the all-controlling wisdom of someone by the virtue of their less-white skin tone.

I'm not sure how uch these guys will stick with these high-minded ideals when they start losing an argument.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 30, 2015 12:09 PM (oVJmc)

69 The racism industry is alive and well because it works. There are plenty of middle-class white kids who go to the liberal arts colleges where this stuff is taught, on their parents' dime, and their poor formation and education makes them easy pickings for anyone -- race hustlers, LGBTQ activists, etc -- to guilt-trip into thinking they have adopt racialist thought-categories wholesale. Younger kids are not so easily led. Their humanity has yet to be chopped to pieces by leftist indoctrination scolds.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 12:09 PM (EUPoD)

70 >One objection McWhorter lodges is that there is no actual political demand here -- he feels, in many ways, this spares white people from any further need to act politically, because they've already Confessed Their Sins and hence are, as the catechism has it, now forgiven from sin. God forbid whites be spared from any manufactured guilt, when they can instead be rallied to yet another political fucking cause. I won't be giving my pity, nor will I be giving any 'tangible political action' specifically for minorities either, as opposed to the general population who are actual, legal citizens. And if I get pushed too far, I'll withdraw into thinking in terms of either American whites or Christians - one or the other - first and foremost, with everyone else expected to fend for themselves.

Posted by: Crude at July 30, 2015 12:09 PM (/IrCS)

71 My point here is that throwing around the word "religion" as a synonym for "censorious irrational scolding and groupthink" is an absurdly broad brush. It's like putting St. Thomas Aquinas or John Calvin in the same room as Jim Jones. Ludicrous, but ludicrousness aside, it isn't even a rational comparison. Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 05:06 PM (EUPoD) Good point. "Cult" would be a more accurate description.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 30, 2015 12:10 PM (u0lmX)

72 NGUs a Dentist, right. And out of the country, right? Nah...it couldn't have been I seriously doubt that NGU would pay $50k to shoot a lion.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at July 30, 2015 12:10 PM (om5+S)

73 I'm a deceiver.

Posted by: Barack 2008 at July 30, 2015 12:10 PM (W5DcG)

74 66-No, no, Let's not go there.! The last thing we need on this thread or any thread is the freakin' wars between the Catholics and the Protestants usually started- I might add by some Protestant and I can say that because I am a Protestant. . Catholics ARE Christians.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:10 PM (OSs/l)

75 No, this Catholic has enormous respect for Protestant theologians and their congregations, assemblies, or whatnot--John Calvin in particular.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 12:11 PM (EUPoD)

76 Grey Fox, we could have a nice conversation sometime. My point here is that throwing around the word "religion" as a synonym for "censorious irrational scolding and groupthink" is an absurdly broad brush. It's like putting St. Thomas Aquinas or John Calvin in the same room as Jim Jones. Ludicrous, but ludicrousness aside, it isn't even a rational comparison. I agree.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 12:11 PM (a42f0)

77 Black Oyster Cult

Posted by: Barack 2008 at July 30, 2015 12:11 PM (W5DcG)

78 But it's so easy to blame all your problems on others instead of confronting and solving them.

Posted by: Kenway at July 30, 2015 12:11 PM (+NPiO)

79 Looks like Trump is imploding. It was fun while it lasted. http://tinyurl.com/nchm9a4

Posted by: rrpjr at July 30, 2015 12:12 PM (s/yC1)

80 I'm a deceiver.
Posted by: Barack 2008


I ain't on the menu.

Posted by: Air Bud at July 30, 2015 12:12 PM (YEelc)

81 OK, so we're skipping on past refighting the War of Northern Aggression and hitting the Thirty Years' War now?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 30, 2015 12:12 PM (2l5vw)

82 The infuriating thing about all of this is that conservatism and conservative policies don't help only honkey crackers, those policies, both public and private, would help blacks, too. Yet many the alleged conservative will go to affirmative action, welfare etc. ijn an attempt to attract black voters when it is those very policies which are destroying black culture.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 12:12 PM (XUKZU)

83 The wheel - White privilege. Paved roads - White privilege Steam power - White privilege Electric motor - White privilege Solid state electronics - White privilege Solar cells - White privilege Penicillin - White privilege etc., etc., etc. I wonder how many of those things the whiny people of color are prepared to eschew..., because you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 12:13 PM (9mTYi)

84 "I am a cat lover." Me too. Can't eat a whole one by myself though.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 12:14 PM (VPLuQ)

85 Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 05:08 PM (3aNC4) Catholics believe that Christ is Lord and that He rose from the dead and will come again in glory. That's the core definition of a Christian, I would say. You undoubtedly believe you are one, but you are not displaying much Christian charity.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 30, 2015 12:14 PM (u0lmX)

86 77 Black Oyster Cult Posted by: Barack 2008 at July 30, 2015 05:11 PM (W5DcG) Is that a gay band?

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 12:14 PM (z/Ubi)

87

"You mean blindly follow a group that produces no tangible results?"

 

That is not true. They have done wonders for the dem cause...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 30, 2015 12:14 PM (jtStN)

88 14 The proper response to White Privilege is FYNQ. Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2015 04:51 PM (om5+S) ------- Agree.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 30, 2015 12:15 PM (Xa4vS)

89 Gotta scoot for now. I love Ace, and I don't want to see him slosh around with the likes of Dawkins. Ace, you might pick up some Terry Eagleton sometime. Like Paglia. Respects "religion." Does not respect "cult."

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 12:15 PM (EUPoD)

90 Can't eat a whole one by myself though.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Air Bud at July 30, 2015 12:15 PM (YEelc)

91 Can't eat a whole one by myself though. ----------------- Oh, I can....

Posted by: Neighborhood coyote at July 30, 2015 12:16 PM (9mTYi)

92 74 66-No, no, Let's not go there.! The last thing we need on this thread or any thread is the freakin' wars between the Catholics and the Protestants usually started- I might add by some Protestant and I can say that because I am a Protestant. . Catholics ARE Christians.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 05:10 PM (OSs/l)


Not my point; of course Catholics are Christian; they are a subset or Denomination like everyone else.  Some Catholics, seems like a couple here today, believe the terms are interchangeable ei the 2 types of Christians are Catholics and those who deny or Protest some portions of Christian (Catholic) doctrine.

Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 12:16 PM (3aNC4)

93 Ta-Nehisi Coates' particular expression of Black Male Authenticity That's a guy? I thought all along it was a woman's name. Like Latasha or something.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 12:17 PM (OE2ur)

94 The wheel - White privilege.
Paved roads - White privilege
Steam power - White privilege
Electric motor - White privilege
Solid state electronics - White privilege
Solar cells - White privilege
Penicillin - White privilege
etc., etc., etc.

I wonder how many of those things the whiny people of color are prepared to eschew..., because you can't have your cake and eat it too. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc.

Don't forget sweaters!

Posted by: Dang at July 30, 2015 12:17 PM (2oWD2)

95 Glenn Loury is intellectually kind of all over the block.  For awhile, he was the darling of the right: a black man who excoriated the left.  Then, IIRC, he veered left, almost as if the constant hate and criticism from the left was getting to him.  No, I can't remember why, but I'm pretty sure the statement is accurate.

It appears that he's moving back.  Good. 

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2015 12:18 PM (LAe3v)

96 " I was going to say I was a pussy lover, but being a Gentleman and all........?" Wait. You did just say that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 12:18 PM (LA7Cm)

97 The wheel - White privilege. Paved roads - White privilege Steam power - White privilege Electric motor - White privilege Solid state electronics - White privilege Solar cells - White privilege Penicillin - White privilege etc., etc., etc. What's the Romans whitey ever done for us?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 12:18 PM (OE2ur)

98 Yeah, let's have a Catholic -Protestant fight. Those are always so productive! I don't mind when non-Catholics criticize Francis for saying stupid lefty crap - because he does - but fighting the Reformation in the comments section of this blog is asinine. It's also playing right into the hands of the secular left. When ISIS beheads Christians in the ME, I doubt they're asked which denomination they belong to before they get the axe.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 30, 2015 12:18 PM (u0lmX)

99 Posted by: rrpjr at July 30, 2015 05:12 PM (s/yC At least he is consistently incoherent. He mumbled the same thing in 2012 when he attacked Romney for his cruel immigration plan.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 30, 2015 12:19 PM (p/8Bt)

100 the Thirty Years' War now? - I think the first shot has been fired. http://tinyurl.com/qz5ad6j

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 12:19 PM (XUKZU)

101 Bravo, Donna; Well said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:19 PM (OSs/l)

102 I'd really like to hear from the "white privilege" types as to why I was so damn poor in my 20s?  I thought it had something to do with being in grad school, where I was focusing on the future. 

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2015 12:20 PM (LAe3v)

103 The entire conversation about racism exists because there is a whole industry of race baiting that is politically and financially profitable. Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines while listening to this, reading the comments there, and looking up the Coates guy (never heard of him, and I stopped paying attention to David Brooks years ago - he's such a creepy douchebag). Listening to and reading all of this reminds me of the gay community. There is a huge industry, both underground and above ground feeding fuel and money, where a rich stratosphere is created, but not recognized by the angry ones feeding the logs into the furnace. Including themed music. At least in this video, you hear more than one side of the story, and deeper analysis. Fine. I just wish this post wasn't so late in the day. I won't be able to listen to the entire hour plus video right now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2015 12:20 PM (qCMvj)

104 Rombley criticizes Cruz for criticizing the sweet, sweet Iranian deal Barky has brought to the table. See WZ.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 12:21 PM (XUKZU)

105 Ta-Nehisi Coates' particular expression of Black Male Authenticity

That's a guy? I thought all along it was a woman's name. Like Latasha or something. Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 05:17 PM
-----------

I anxiously await my 15 seconds of fame when I can make some remark on camera about whoever the hell Kaynee West is.

Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 12:22 PM (DtNNC)

106 Sigh. Only reason I haven't defected to a Church that's still more spiritual than worldly is because of dear old dad, who's really too old for this crap.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 30, 2015 12:22 PM (2l5vw)

107 85 Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 05:08 PM (3aNC4)

Catholics believe that Christ is Lord and that He rose from the dead and will come again in glory.

That's the core definition of a Christian, I would say.

You undoubtedly believe you are one, but you are not displaying much Christian charity.

Sorry, but you also have missed my point.  Catholics are Christian.  My point was someone up thread stated it was a Christian belief to differentiate Original sin and Cardinal and venal sins.  This is not a Christian doctrine in the sense only Catholics believe this. 

Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 12:22 PM (3aNC4)

108 "I am a cat lover."

Me too.
Can't eat a whole one by myself though.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 30, 2015 05:14 PM


You're trying too hard.  First you feed a group with the roast and a couple of sides.  Then you make a nice stock out of what's left, maybe use the scraps in a pie, maybe a nice cat salad with some mayo and tarragon...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState[/i][/b][/s] at July 30, 2015 12:23 PM (QiBX8)

109 Eff-off, Ta-Ta McCoates, Sir GolfsALot, Jesse, Rev'round Al and all this generation's race mongerers. Far better men than you from your race put far more on the line, including their lives, to better racial relations in this country. So what did you, their unworthy successors do? Whined, birches and moaned about how it was too hard to build upon their legacy and instead regressed to cheap con-jobbery and whinging about respect you feel you deserve, but never extended the effort to learn. And shame on those from other races who felt sorry for you and your just feelings and gave credence to your self-aggrandizing bullshit. This goes double for the La Raza crowd and their ilk.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) [/i][/u][/s] at July 30, 2015 12:23 PM (sUh98)

110 What they call 'white privilege' is simply the benefit of a much-higher participation in pro-social behaviors instead of anti-social ones.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 30, 2015 12:23 PM (oVJmc)

111 That didn't take long. Instapundit has already linked this post.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 12:23 PM (zoehZ)

112 I haven't bought this white privilege for a second. A long time ago I still remember in a Nat Geo article it was.stated that cats from house to lion tasted like carp. I guess it's a food change thing.

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2015 12:24 PM (CFAPf)

113 McWhorter quotes a list from one of his latest pieces, for blacks to tackle: drugs education/reading in particular poor women (of all color) with effective contraception celebrating vocational schools Good for him. It's all common sense.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2015 12:25 PM (qCMvj)

114 Catholics believe that Christ is Lord and that He rose from the dead and will come again in glory. That's the core definition of a Christian, I would say. You undoubtedly believe you are one, but you are not displaying much Christian charity. Donna, I think he just meant that there are Christians who are not Roman Catholic. The original phrase "The proper response to original sin is to embrace the teachings of Jesus, although one will remain always a sinner nevertheless," while a bit ambiguous, could be taken as a shorthand version of basic Protestant theology, (see my selection from the Westminster Shorter Catechism) and to characterize it as obviously unchristian based on uniquely RC theology, as Feh appeared to be doing, could be described as "confusing Catholicism with Christianity." That is the charitable assumption, anyway...

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 12:25 PM (a42f0)

115 I'm a Believer! Posted by: The Monkees, 1966 I'm a retriever! Posted by: Air Bud at July 30, 2015 04:59 PM (YEelc) I'm a doctor! Posted by: "Bones" McCoy at July 30, 2015 05:00 PM (z/Ubi) I'm a floor rug! Posted by: Cecil at July 30, 2015 05:02 PM (j2FM9) Call me Snake. - Snake Plissken

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 12:25 PM (XUKZU)

116 Birches == bitched Just == hurt Eff-off autocorrect

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) [/i][/u][/s] at July 30, 2015 12:25 PM (sUh98)

117 Whiners gonna whine. "I can't get ahead because of [fill in the blank, but make sure you blame whitey]." How 'bout gettin off yo ass and doing the work? That's where "white privilege" comes from. It isn't a privilege, it's earned. Don't like white culture that expects you to work for it? Then don't ask for the benefits thereof. And the next time somebody accuses me of racism or white privilege, I challenge them to point out exactly how I have benefited from any of it, whatsoever.

Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 12:26 PM (+YMhA)

118 Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 05:21 PM (XUKZU) I believe Romney is wrong in that case but that does not mean I don't listen to what he has to say as I would with any highly accomplished person. I'm not opposed to changing my mind if the facts and logic support doing so. In the case of the Iran agreement I don't think there is any information that makes it a positive.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 30, 2015 12:26 PM (p/8Bt)

119 Call me Snake. - Snake Plissken I thought you were dead?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 30, 2015 12:26 PM (2l5vw)

120 Gosh, I have no idea what "structural racism" is. I guess I'm out of touch.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2015 12:27 PM (qCMvj)

121 What they call 'white privilege' is simply the benefit of a much-higher participation in pro-social behaviors instead of anti-social ones. - Truths That Must Not Be Told, vol. XII

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 12:27 PM (XUKZU)

122 Ace of Spaces Conjecture

Damn! You come up with your own philosophical outlook, even naming after yourself, and then you spell your own name wrong.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 30, 2015 12:27 PM (IN7k+)

123 110 What they call 'white privilege' is simply the benefit of a much-higher participation in pro-social behaviors instead of anti-social ones. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 30, 2015 05:23 PM (oVJmc) Okay, that's a much more polite way to put it.

Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 12:27 PM (+YMhA)

124 "liberal racism" wut?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2015 12:28 PM (qCMvj)

125 Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 05:22 PM (3aNC4) I'm sorry for misunderstanding you, then. While I am aware that the concept of original, cardinal and venal sins is specifically Catholic, the person who made the comment might not know that and so was not trying to claim that only Catholics are Christian.

Posted by: Donna V. (sans ampersands) at July 30, 2015 12:29 PM (u0lmX)

126 Carp is OK, but nothing beats cat!

Posted by: ALF at July 30, 2015 12:29 PM (l2Gqi)

127 "I thought you were dead?" What? Jeff Goldblum died?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 12:30 PM (VPLuQ)

128 I'm both a floor wax and a dessert topping!

Posted by: New Shimmer at July 30, 2015 12:30 PM (evdj2)

129 Sorry, but you also have missed my point. Catholics are Christian. My point was someone up thread stated it was a Christian belief to differentiate Original sin and Cardinal and venal sins. This is not a Christian doctrine in the sense only Catholics believe this. Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 05:22 PM (3aNC4) I believe you will find that both Luther and Calvin believed exactly this. Many Christian denominations have wandered from it, but at the core, all protestants once held to this particular belief. The difference is that neither Luther nor Calvin agreed with the Catholic Church how one goes about being forgiven for those sins, or if they even could be forgiven.

Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 12:31 PM (+YMhA)

130 Jeff Goldblum died?

I wish he'd stop doing that, that's the fourth time this week.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 30, 2015 12:31 PM (YEelc)

131 Is this the new "White Man's Burden?"


Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at July 30, 2015 12:31 PM (f+6Pd)

132 Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 30, 2015 05:22 PM (2l5vw) Perhaps as a Protestant I'm not the person to comment on this :^), but since your elderly dad is RC, it probably would be upsetting to him if you left. When Catholics tell me this, I usually saw, "Concentrate on the foundational aspect of your faith-Reception of the Eucharist, continue to pray and read great Roman Catholics saints and writers. Of course, Francis will say things that are upsetting but he's not THE church. He's a man with political opinions. The political opinions aren't dogma. I would imagine that even Francis is solid on the foundational doctrines of the RCC.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:31 PM (OSs/l)

133
Call me Snake.

-
Snake Plissken


I thought you were dead?


---
The next person who says that I'm gonna shoot, so help me.

Jacob McCandles

Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 12:32 PM (DtNNC)

134 >> @67 "...Ace tends to hold to a rather cartoonish understanding of religion and the role it plays in people's daily lives, culture, and intellectual processes."-- Grey Fox

It's a silly straw man that he feels he has to burn every so often while he's writing about something else.

He wouldn't last thirty minutes in a formal debate with William Lane Craig or a dozen other Christian apologists I know.







Posted by: An Observer at July 30, 2015 12:32 PM (Le9sw)

135 I would imagine that even Francis is solid on the foundational doctrines of the RCC. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 05:31 PM (OSs/l) He really can't change dogma. Not possible. The Curia would slap him down faster than a redneck slaps down a flying carp in the river.

Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 12:33 PM (+YMhA)

136 Hmmm, McWhorter partially blames the NAACP for putting out the idea that black people are dumb, spreading the meme. wow

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2015 12:33 PM (qCMvj)

137 Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 05:21 PM (XUKZU) To further clarify, Romney is criticizing Cruz's rhetoric. Romney does not support the Iran deal. Romney's nice guy routine does gets old. What Cruz said is absolutely true . Obama will indirectly become a chief sponsor terrorism by financing it with the money we've given back to Iran.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 30, 2015 12:34 PM (p/8Bt)

138 Protestant theology, (see my selection from the Westminster Shorter Catechism) and to characterize it as obviously unchristian based on uniquely RC theology, as Feh appeared to be doing, could be described as "confusing Catholicism with Christianity." That is the charitable assumption, anyway...

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 05:25 PM (a42f0)


Thanks for the charity Mr Fox.  It's only been what, 500 years but we are still defined by what we are Protesting?  Properly understood, Christian doctrine is what was espoused by Christ and his Apostles (scripture), Catholic doctrine is what Catholics adds, Methodist doctrine is what Methodists add, etc.

Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 12:34 PM (3aNC4)

139 crap, I have to go. 24 mins left. /sigh have fun tonight!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2015 12:34 PM (qCMvj)

140 The first thing you need to accept and understand about the ministers and followers of the religion of anti-racism is this: They themselves do not believe any of it.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 12:34 PM (7CyjY)

141 134 >> @67 "...Ace tends to hold to a rather cartoonish understanding of religion and
the role it plays in people's daily lives, culture, and intellectual
processes."-- Grey Fox

It's a silly straw man that he feels he has to burn every so often while he's writing about something else.

He wouldn't last thirty minutes in a formal debate with William Lane Craig or a dozen other Christian apologists I know.

Posted by: An Observer at July 30, 2015 05:32 PM

--------

Uhmm,...

You seem to have a rather cartoonish understanding of Ace.

Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 12:35 PM (DtNNC)

142 It was supposed to read crap, but even typing this again stupid program changed the word.

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2015 12:36 PM (CFAPf)

143 Jeff Goldblum died? He will be missed.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2015 12:36 PM (evdj2)

144 And I have No idea what denomination this preacher is. Maybe Southern Baptist? I am not endorsing joining his particular church. I just have heard and read a number of his sermons (Rev, John MacArthur) and I like him. This one seems pretty prophetic; It's on abortion and same sex marriage, "We will not bow." I think you can also get a transcript online if you don't want to listen for an hour. It's every old though, for those that have the time: http://tinyurl.com/nk2wk9n

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:36 PM (OSs/l)

145 The fact is..., I like Mackerel. Must be genetic. But perhaps I Protest too much.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, Methodist, whose ancestors were Anglicans, whose ancestors were Catholic at July 30, 2015 12:37 PM (9mTYi)

146 A post about race.... And we're not being lectured about the term "cuckservative"? Inconceivable!

Posted by: wooga at July 30, 2015 12:37 PM (zHvpi)

147 It's not just white privilege but also white-Hispani privilege.

Look at Haiti and the DR.

The truth of the matter is that the more control and power that blacks have in any local the worse the conditions and lives are for blacks.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at July 30, 2015 12:37 PM (f+6Pd)

148 The religion of antiracism is used to stifle free speech, shut down political opponents, and bully Other. For instance, let's say you're a fake Conservative and a true obama supporter, like, say, Andrew Sullivan. You hate Trump. So you make up some bullshit about the word cuckold and it's humorous derivative cuckservative. You then use your made up bullshit to smear Trump and his supporters.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 12:38 PM (7CyjY)

149 129 Sorry, but you also have missed my point. Catholics are Christian. My point was someone up thread stated it was a Christian belief to differentiate Original sin and Cardinal and venal sins. This is not a Christian doctrine in the sense only Catholics believe this.

Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 05:22 PM (3aNC4)

I believe you will find that both Luther and Calvin believed exactly this. Many Christian denominations have wandered from it, but at the core, all protestants once held to this particular belief.

The difference is that neither Luther nor Calvin agreed with the Catholic Church how one goes about being forgiven for those sins, or if they even could be forgiven.

This is precisely my point. As someone whos been on this Earth 30 years i have never held this belief and so could not have wondered from it.  More to the point neither Christ, nor his Apostles held this belief (in my opinion as a non Catholic)

Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 12:38 PM (3aNC4)

150 There is nothing, NOTHING, more truly racist than the belief that all members of one racial group are INHERENTLY sinful while others are not.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 30, 2015 12:38 PM (cN9Sk)

151 I have never been a raciss but the commie media is doing their darndest to force me to be one. The pressure is enormous. I don't know how long I can hold out.

Posted by: Eromero at July 30, 2015 12:38 PM (go5uR)

152 Pickerel is fun to say. Mackerel and Pickerel are fist twins.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 12:39 PM (7CyjY)

153 I think we need to pay more attention to the gentleman scholar, retarded Toure.

Posted by: wooga at July 30, 2015 12:39 PM (zHvpi)

154 Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 05:33 PM (+YMhA) I wasn't suggested that he could or would :^) My point was to suggest people concentrate on the foundational aspects of the faith when they are troubled by political statements of Pope Francis. Heck, as people know from my posts here I read a lot of RCC Saints and writers. It helps me in my life as a Christian and I'm not even a Catholic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:39 PM (OSs/l)

155 Its all about personal responsibility. If its all 'Men's' fault... or Hetero's Fault... or Whites fault.... It isn't your fault that your life sucks... even when you make poor choices.

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 30, 2015 12:39 PM (qh617)

156 Properly understood, Christian doctrine is what was espoused by Christ and his Apostles (scripture), Catholic doctrine is what Catholics adds, Methodist doctrine is what Methodists add, etc. Posted by: pashmr at July 30, 2015 05:34 PM (3aNC4) Actually, even Scripture says that the Apostles were told more than is written therein. The protestant idea that everything that counts as Christian is written in the Bible is antithetical to the Bible itself. Just sayin'.

Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 12:39 PM (+YMhA)

157 The truth of the matter is that the more control and power that blacks have in any local the worse the conditions and lives are for blacks. Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at July 30, 2015 05:37 PM (f+6Pd) Detroit: Say what?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 12:39 PM (OE2ur)

158 Holy crap, reading all of that is exhausting! So living the life of a black man is like having a second job, with all of the drama, convoluted rules, and racial triggering. 

Who knew?


Posted by: Fritz at July 30, 2015 12:40 PM (UzPAd)

159 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 05:36 PM (OSs/l) Meant to say "It's every good, though" Darn auto correct.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:41 PM (OSs/l)

160 Actually, even Scripture says that the Apostles were told more than is written therein. The protestant idea that everything that counts as Christian is written in the Bible is antithetical to the Bible itself. If we needed to know about it, wouldn't they have written it down?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2015 12:41 PM (evdj2)

161 Pickerel is fun to say. Mackerel and Pickerel are fist twins. Posted by: Soothsayer
---------

I don't care what it means. I will not google fist twins.

Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 12:41 PM (DtNNC)

162 Glad you saw this and posted about it. I sent it to you and John 4 days ago. Glad you are back!

Posted by: Zakn at July 30, 2015 12:41 PM (BtZep)

163 I mean, that would have been pretty handy for future generations.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2015 12:41 PM (evdj2)

164 There is nothing, NOTHING, more truly racist than the belief that all members of one racial group are INHERENTLY sinful while others are not. ----------------- Absolutely true. As they say, it is 99% of the lawyers who give the other 1% a bad name. Oh..., wait...., that's a demographic, not racial. Never mind.

Posted by: Emily Latella at July 30, 2015 12:41 PM (9mTYi)

165 104 Rombley criticizes Cruz for criticizing the sweet, sweet Iranian deal Barky has brought to the table. See WZ. No surprises there. If that man had been elected we'd have the exact same government.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2015 12:42 PM (x9oEV)

166 Its all about personal responsibility. If its all 'Men's' fault... or Hetero's Fault... or Whites fault.... It isn't your fault that your life sucks... even when you make poor choices. Posted by: BB Wolf at July 30, 2015 05:39 PM (qh617) So as a white hetero male I have no one to blame but me? Dammit!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 12:42 PM (OE2ur)

167 There's no need for an explicit political demand - inducing a sense of inferiority and knee-jerk deference to minority disapproval renders whites both culturally and politically impotent (thus Brooks' genuflections and asking "permission").

I'd go beyond the idea that anti-racism is a religion.  It's brainwashing/programming by wanna-be minority/identity-group supremacists.  It's what crit theory cultural Marxism was always intended to accomplish - a disintegration of the existing "power structure" and its replacement by cultural Marxists.  Whites are Goldstein, racism is Goldsteinism, and the "conversation" is a monologue Two Minutes Hate.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 30, 2015 12:42 PM (sCnI5)

168 So as a white hetero male I have no one to blame but me? Dammit!!! Blame The Man.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2015 12:43 PM (evdj2)

169 If we needed to know about it, wouldn't they have written it down?

The secret teachings, from which Bingo was derived.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 30, 2015 12:43 PM (YEelc)

170 I can't get into all the theological debates. Been there done that. It's just causes acrimony and as Donna noted plays int the divisive ends of secular leftists. Catch you in the next thread

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:43 PM (OSs/l)

171 I don't care what it means. I will not google fist twins. Posted by: irright ----------------- I think it has something to do with the French Horn section. NTTAWWT.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 12:44 PM (9mTYi)

172 Coincidentally enough, I had lunch today with a tenured philosopher who specializes in Christian stuff. Very interesting.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2015 12:45 PM (evdj2)

173 O/T Maryland's new Republican Governor just shut down the Baltimore City Jail. The only city jail in the nation that was so poorly run by the city that the State had to take it over. The jail which was run by the Black Gorilla Family, and where the BGF ran their citywide criminal activities from. The jail where three female Guards were found to be pregnant, by prisoners. And when is he closing it? Immediately. Who was our last Governor? Martin O'Malley (D), Democratic Presidential contender

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 12:45 PM (VPLuQ)

174 Eric Hopper? I'm guessing that was Dennis Hopper's dumber brother, who managed to misspell his own last name when he wrote True Believer.

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at July 30, 2015 12:45 PM (wKcQA)

175 There will not be a next thread. We have reached peak AoS. We have reached AoS moron entropy with this very thread.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 12:45 PM (7CyjY)

176 OT/ but I see the obama administration is going to investigate the death of Cecil the lion... Oh and the obama administration condemned the people who filmed the PP videos...... Such a screwed up World...

Posted by: donna at July 30, 2015 12:45 PM (hUdMz)

177 160 Actually, even Scripture says that the Apostles were told more than is written therein. The protestant idea that everything that counts as Christian is written in the Bible is antithetical to the Bible itself. If we needed to know about it, wouldn't they have written it down? Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2015 05:41 PM (evdj2) That third tablet??? the other Commandments??? Too damned heavy to carry down the hill....

Posted by: Moses at July 30, 2015 12:45 PM (qh617)

178 132 Perhaps as a Protestant I'm not the person to comment on this :^), but ......"Concentrate on the foundational aspect of your faith-Reception of the Eucharist, continue to pray and read great Roman Catholics saints and writers. Of course, Francis will say things that are upsetting but he's not THE church. He's a man with political opinions. The political opinions aren't dogma. I would imagine that even Francis is solid on the foundational doctrines of the RCC. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 05:31 PM (OSs/l) -------------------- Amen. So well said. (I'm glad you did comment, Protestant or not!)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 30, 2015 12:46 PM (cN9Sk)

179 Oh and the obama administration condemned the people who filmed the PP videos...... Such a screwed up World... Posted by: donna at July 30, 2015 05:45 PM (hUdMz) Yes..... because its only the Governments job to spy on us... to invade our privacy....

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 30, 2015 12:47 PM (qh617)

180 No, but, really, the USA jumped the shark. The only thing we can do now is have fun pinpointing the exact moment when it happened.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 12:47 PM (7CyjY)

181 So as a white hetero male I have no one to blame but me? Dammit!!! Blame The Man. Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2015 05:43 PM (evdj2) I once got into an argument with a left who was giving me grief about something and I really didn't want to get into it so I said something like the rich are keeping us all down. He said, so true. And that ended it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 12:47 PM (OE2ur)

182 @29 naturalfake, Internet Zillionaire "..maintain where you are in the middle class which is done pretty much the same way around the world by all races as "acting white". " I had a business prof in the early 90's, who immigrated from Czeckoslovakia in the 50's, who once told our class-- "if you want to end poverty in the US it's quite simple. Stop paying people to sit on their ass." The expressions varied, but it was a kodak moment.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 30, 2015 12:47 PM (QZDsN)

183 147 Look at Haiti and the DR. Well, sure, you guys got the good end of the island.

Posted by: Baby Doc at July 30, 2015 12:48 PM (PHsbY)

184 Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 05:35 PM (DtNNC) Not really. Ace *does* have only very fuzzy ideas about how Christianity works and no problem opining anyway. Then again, he *did* create the Moron Horde so it's not like it's that unusual of a habit around here.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 12:48 PM (GDulk)

185 donna - I've had dinner, and some email exchanges with this fellow. He's a wealth of insight re C.S. Lewis. http://preview.tinyurl.com/pg296jk

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 12:48 PM (9mTYi)

186 Speaking of Baltimore, I wonder if they have bumper stickers on their cars I'd Rather Be Looting, because that'd be funny.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 12:49 PM (7CyjY)

187 Black Gorilla Family - I assume you mean Black Guerrilla Family

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 12:50 PM (XUKZU)

188 If we needed to know about it, wouldn't they have written it down? Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 30, 2015 05:41 PM (evdj2) The Catholic point of view is that the Bible contains everything you need, as an individual, to get to Heaven. That doesn't mean that everything we can and should know is contained therein, just that you don't need more than that. I'm pretty sure that most denominations use a creed, and most of them know the Apostles' Creed or the Nicene Creed. Neither of those are found in the Bible, per se, but are considered foundational. That's one example and there are plenty of others. That doesn't mean the creeds are bad because they are not in the Bible, but that you don't necessarily need them to get to heaven. I, personally, need all the help I can get.

Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 12:50 PM (+YMhA)

189 Kind of off topic:  Did we ever have a minute of silence (no posting) for Cecil the lion on Ace of Spades?

Posted by: Colin at July 30, 2015 12:51 PM (pU8wz)

190 Polliwog the 'Ette

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Are your ideas less fuzzy than his?

Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 12:52 PM (DtNNC)

191 The most popular candidate in the field is throwing verbal haymakers, but Romney says Cruz is "hurting the cause."  Whose cause, Mitt?  Ted Cruz?

More BS that adds up to - shut up and get out of Jeb's way, everyone.

If Romney had focused more on what his own voters wanted him to say rather than what the "independent" no-labels unicorns wanted, he'd be President right now.

Mitt Romney - Do The Opposite.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 30, 2015 12:53 PM (sCnI5)

192 The Catholic point of view is that the Bible contains everything you need, as an individual, to get to Heaven. I would say that IMO the Bible can be a dangerous thing to read without a lot of self reflection. The scripture itself contains an example of the Devil using the Bible to argue for what he wants.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2015 12:54 PM (x9oEV)

193 104 Rombley criticizes Cruz And Cruz's retort was a cutting remark about Romney fiddling with his pencil when Obama challenged him on Benghazi. Cruz is doubling down.

Posted by: rrpjr at July 30, 2015 12:55 PM (s/yC1)

194 I heard Pickerel is wicked bony.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 12:56 PM (7CyjY)

195 I would say that IMO the Bible can be a dangerous thing to read without a lot of self reflection. The scripture itself contains an example of the Devil using the Bible to argue for what he wants. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2015 05:54 PM (x9oEV) It ain't an easy row to hoe, that's for sure. People can pretty much find whatever they want to in it, and then use it to bludgeon everyone else. Makes it hard to interpret if you don't have some foundation to work from.

Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 12:56 PM (+YMhA)

196 191 The most popular candidate in the field is throwing verbal haymakers, but Romney says Cruz is "hurting the cause." Whose cause, Mitt? Ted Cruz? Mitt is just being the press whore he always was. The man would have been a nightmare as president, but it would be harder to criticize him. He wants positive press, and the easiest way to do that is attack conservatives.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2015 12:57 PM (x9oEV)

197 Could one claim, logically, that if white privilege is being born with unearned priviliege, that black victimhood is being born with unearned victim status?  How many young black people in *this* world have been subject to true racism, been beaten because of their skin color, been forced to pick produce at the end of a whip or a noose?

But the religion of these people provides for the one while not even considering the other, and as the post mentions, logic doesn't come into play in *this* religion.

Posted by: Jim, Waiting for that crow at July 30, 2015 12:57 PM (nJIZA)

198 I'm still here; I'm not Poilliwog but yes, my ideas about religion are less fuzzy than that of Ace if only in knowing that a rosary was not called a "rosemary". ;^) It was good for large laugh though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 12:59 PM (OSs/l)

199 *finally beer in hand* "192 The Catholic point of view is that the Bible contains everything you need, as an individual, to get to Heaven. " Er, no. Pappy usefully added the positional good idea to the I-hate-my-white-wealth idea. These are the kids who grow up to work for Hillary.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 01:00 PM (Uk9e2)

200 Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 05:52 PM (DtNNC) Well, I've had personal experience *as a believer* for 38 of my 41 years, which I seriously doubt he can claim. I love his fuzzy self, I just know to not set store by what he writes about Christianity in particular and religious faith in general.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 01:00 PM (GDulk)

201 The Catholic point of view is that the Bible contains everything you need, as an individual, to get to Heaven.

Uhm, no.  Catholics aren't really big on the proles reading scripture and they're the Church with that created most of what the Protestants consider man-made, extra-scriptural dogma and practice.  Protestants are the ones who believe in scripture above all, and that "you...as an individual" are responsible for understanding interpreting it for yourself.  Priests tell you what scripture means and what the Church wants you to do, pastors and reverends suggest.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 30, 2015 01:00 PM (sCnI5)

202 Could one claim, logically, that if white privilege is being born with unearned priviliege, that black victimhood is being born with unearned victim status?

Posted by: Jim, Waiting for that crow at July 30, 2015 05:57 PM (nJIZA)

-----------------

That's pretty good.  Is it yours?  Regardless, consider it stolen.


Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 01:00 PM (DtNNC)

203 Ace calls The Catechism The Catamaran.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 01:01 PM (7CyjY)

204 Not a religion but i would go with a CULT.


Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at July 30, 2015 01:01 PM (f+6Pd)

205 Funny how you conservatives deride "religion" as practiced (so you say) by liberals, but never criticize actually religious people who practice hate to deprive others of pizza merely because of who they love.

Posted by: Zander Peacock at July 30, 2015 01:01 PM (CkjRf)

206 It's a silly straw man that he feels he has to burn every so often while he's writing about something else. No, I think that he grew up in a secular household and has largely secular friends, and as a result his understanding of the role of religion in culture and philosophy is largely derived from modern secular thought that assumes a dichotomy between reason and faith. To those of us who are religious or at least grew up in religious households, who see reason and faith as intertwined and complementary, his characterization of religion does tend to come of as cartoonish.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 01:02 PM (a42f0)

207 People can pretty much find whatever they want to in it, and then use it to bludgeon everyone else. Makes it hard to interpret if you don't have some foundation to work from. Posted by: tcn at July 30, 2015 05:56 PM (+YMhA) I'd say it helps to read the original text and lots of interpretations of it. It's also easy to read one thing in the absence of another which could lead you astray - Jesus's talk about denigrating the Holy Spirit as an unforgivable sin led me to lots of sleepless nights as a kid where I feared I'd accidentally think the Holy Spirit was unclean and be damned forever.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2015 01:03 PM (x9oEV)

208 It's too hot for pizza. It's 90 degrees and 74% humidity.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 01:03 PM (7CyjY)

209 Posted by: Zander Peacock at July 30, 2015 06:01 PM (CkjRf) That was a very funny; At least i hope that you were being funny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 01:03 PM (OSs/l)

210 Well, we apparently have a full blown abortion protest going on about six blocks from the house. Need to check out what's up. BBL

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 01:06 PM (VPLuQ)

211 Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 06:03 PM (7CyjY) You just hate carbs don't you., H8r? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 01:06 PM (OSs/l)

212 When I stand before the great white pearly train tunnel, I hope that Saint Pittsburgh will know that I have no other than Choo-Choo in my heart.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 30, 2015 01:07 PM (f+6Pd)

213 oh, and hahahaha @ "Pope Coats!"

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 01:07 PM (7CyjY)

214 Funny how you conservatives deride "religion" as practiced (so you say) by liberals, but never criticize actually religious people who practice hate to deprive others of pizza merely because of who they love. ------------------------- "practice hate"? Example please. If you mean to resist association with, and the support and nurture of people whose behavior of which one disapproves, then, yup. It's true. Quite different than hate though, isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 01:07 PM (9mTYi)

215 On the contrary, carbs hate me.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 01:08 PM (7CyjY)

216 I am very much concerned that Cecil the lion was buried in such a white racist manner without his head or mane.

Posted by: Ta-Nehisi Coates the fucking idiot at July 30, 2015 01:08 PM (WMjoK)

217 If you mean to resist association with, and the support and nurture of people whose behavior of which one disapproves, then, yup. It's true. Dude, it's about pizza.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 01:09 PM (7CyjY)

218 On the contrary, carbs hate me. Posted by: Sooth ----------- I've had trouble with some upitty fuel injection systems.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 01:09 PM (9mTYi)

219 173 O/T Maryland's new Republican Governor just shut down the Baltimore City Jail.
The only city jail in the nation that was so poorly run by the city that the State had to take it over....
Who was our last Governor?
Martin O'Malley (D), Democratic Presidential contender
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 30, 2015 05:45 PM (VPLuQ)


Aaaand... there's that "failing upward" thing we were talking about earlier.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 30, 2015 01:09 PM (Ta3hG)

220 Yes, after the right shuts down PP, the next big item on their agenda is shutting down pizza parlors-you know, but just the zillions of them that do catering for gay weddings. because everybody wants pizza for 60 at their reception and a big pizza pie instead of a cake saying, "Congrats, Tim and Tom.".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 01:09 PM (OSs/l)

221 I am very much concerned that Cecil the lion was buried in such a white racist manner without his head or mane.

It's not like he's using them anymore.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 30, 2015 01:10 PM (YEelc)

222 Dude, it's about pizza. ------------------ Not hardly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 01:10 PM (9mTYi)

223 Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 06:00
------------------------------------

Not looking to argue. I just think some see Ace's use of the term "religion", when referring to the left's beliefs, as denigrating religion. (Which is an easy assumption to make,...  Including the left denigrates anything.) 

Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 01:11 PM (DtNNC)

224 The Catholic point of view is that the Bible contains everything you need, as an individual, to get to Heaven.

I thought "Sola Scriptura" was a Protestant doctrine.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 30, 2015 01:11 PM (Ta3hG)

225 >>>I am very much concerned that Cecil the lion was buried in such a white racist manner without his head or mane.<<<

If Cecil had been my trophy not only would he be missing his head and mane, he'd be missing his nutsack which I would have turned into a coin purse.

Posted by: Fritz at July 30, 2015 01:12 PM (UzPAd)

226 "Deprive others of pizza merely because of who they love." That was classic. CLASSIC. Somebody will have to save that for when the next sock a leftist. LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 01:12 PM (OSs/l)

227 Sooth - We're having crossed comments. The F.I. comment was throw away stupid humor (which failed). The comment at 205 is NOT about pizza.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 01:13 PM (9mTYi)

228 Set your DVRs, everyone, Jim Gilmore will be in the Center Seat on Fox in a few minutes.

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2015 01:13 PM (LAe3v)

229 88 14 The proper response to White Privilege is FYNQ. Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2015 04:51 PM (om5+S) ------- Agree. Posted by: Seems Legit at July 30, 2015 05:15 PM (Xa4vS) How about: Privilege is earned, bitches.

Posted by: model_1066 at July 30, 2015 01:14 PM (WEvvb)

230 I would have turned into a coin purse. Posted by: Fritz --------------- I'm gonna need to see your Man Card.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 01:14 PM (9mTYi)

231 #205 is not about pizza?? I see the word pizza there.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 01:14 PM (7CyjY)

232 Posted by: irright at July 30, 2015 06:11 PM (DtNNC) Oh, not at all (at least in my case) I see that the same as calling belief in AGW a religion. My comment refers more to the "can't ask X" sort of thing as well as other ignorant-but-not-ill-meant statements specifically regarding Christianity. I know he's not attacking us, he just doesn't know what he's talking about in the case and so tends to choose poor examples. Since I'm not looking to him as a guide in my Christian walk, it's not a big deal.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 01:15 PM (GDulk)

233 226 "Deprive others of pizza merely because of who they love." That was classic. CLASSIC. Somebody will have to save that for when the next sock a leftist. LOL. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 06:12 PM (OSs/l) Too late. Posted by: Zander Peacock at July 30, 2015 06:01 PM (CkjRf) Posted by: Average Joe at December 16, 2014 12:29 PM (CkjRf)

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 01:15 PM (z/Ubi)

234 So the Feds have gone  looking for the dentist, probably have  him extradited back to Zimbabwe to face poaching charges.  Mugabe will probably be the head judge or executioner..

Posted by: Colin at July 30, 2015 01:16 PM (pU8wz)

235 So is Average Joe a troll or a sock because I have to congratulate them on that line? I really did LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2015 01:17 PM (OSs/l)

236 Just had my guy-with-bong moment of the day - misread "antiracism" as "anthracism". Dude. Whoa. Anthracite/coal: "Antiracism" as code for a mysticized obsidian "true black" ideal - just change one letter. Note: I do not actually have a a bong.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 30, 2015 01:17 PM (HtLSE)

237 Apparent contradiction in scripture can also be read as a tempering consideration to black letter rules - e.g. Jesus condemns adultery and forbids remarriage but intervenes for the adulteress with "cast the first stone."  Are we to literally "judge not, lest we be judged?"  A wicked generation seeks a sign but shall not find it - but Jesus and the disciples perform miracles.  God can level a mountain, but we shouldn't jump off mountains to test him - and a thousand other examples.

I prefer to see these apparent contradictions as "take another look at what you're doing, weight the totality rather than focusing on one black letter rule or aspect of the situation."  Religion is in the spirit, not in the black letter - for all that too much "cafeteria" style belief can render your religiosity idiosyncratic or suspect.  There's simply no way that we can all interpret that much ambiguous material identically, nor claim objective validity for any one interpretation.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 30, 2015 01:18 PM (sCnI5)

238 215 On the contrary, carbs hate me. Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 06:08 PM (7CyjY) I feel your pain. They hate me, too.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at July 30, 2015 01:18 PM (KkVB6)

239 Note: I do not actually have a a bong.

Crowdfunding bleg?

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 30, 2015 01:18 PM (sCnI5)

240 236 Just had my guy-with-bong moment of the day - misread "antiracism" as "anthracism". Dude. Whoa. Anthracite/coal: "Antiracism" as code for a mysticized obsidian "true black" ideal - just change one letter. Note: I do not actually have a a bong. Posted by: Sporkatus at July 30, 2015 06:17 PM (HtLSE) You prefer a blunt eh?

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 01:18 PM (z/Ubi)

241 18 >> I reject the sins of the father argument and so does everyone else when you bring up their asshole ancestors.
 
Riiiiight, X. I refer you to any thread here on Rand Paul for a full and complete refutation of that argument.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2015 01:18 PM (jPlFu)

242 SVO In Linguistics/Grammar they break down sentences in Subject, Verb, and Object. Subject: Conservatives Verb: Deprive Object: Pizza

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 01:19 PM (7CyjY)

243 >> Grey Fox @206

It would behoove him to read more, and not just secularists, but some of the best thinkers on the other side of this issue. When I want to test a personal belief, I look for the *strongest* arguments available *against* the position, not lesser material from popularizers that I can easily knock down. I agree with you; I don't see much evidence that Ace has done that.


Posted by: An Observer at July 30, 2015 01:20 PM (Le9sw)

244 holy cats, the skies just broke open it is raining slantwards

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 01:21 PM (7CyjY)

245 On the contrary, carbs hate me.
Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 06:08 PM (7CyjY)
I feel your pain.
They hate me, too.


Carbs love me.  They must, they hang around forever.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 30, 2015 01:21 PM (YEelc)

246 241 18 >> I reject the sins of the father argument and so does everyone else when you bring up their asshole ancestors. Riiiiight, X. I refer you to any thread here on Rand Paul for a full and complete refutation of that argument. Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2015 06:18 PM (jPlFu) Heh.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 01:21 PM (sdi6R)

247 "I thought "Sola Scriptura" was a Protestant doctrine."

Yep.  Prima Scriptura (look to scripture first, but not alone) is sometimes cited as Catholic, but Catholics actually consider scripture as merely co-equal with sacred tradition (e.g. a lot of church teachings outside scripture, albeit most of which are arguably derived therefrom).

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 30, 2015 01:22 PM (sCnI5)

248 Could one claim, logically, that if white privilege is being born with unearned priviliege, that black victimhood is being born with unearned victim STATUS? Posted by: Jim, Waiting for that crow at July 30, 2015 05:57 PM (nJIZA) ------------------ Yeah, that's a good one. Heh. *lifts and deposits in mental file*

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 30, 2015 01:23 PM (cN9Sk)

249 "The proper response to original sin is to embrace the teachings of Jesus, although one will remain always a sinner nevertheless." What I wanted to say about this is that it is glib, wrong, and self-serving. The proper response to original sin is baptism, which erases the original sin and creates a new spiritual life in Christ. It is not a matter of reading a book and following a teaching. It is a matter of participating faithfully, and ever more fully, in the life of a risen person, Jesus. In reading and pondering the Bible, you are living with the Word of God. As a Catholic, you could also be living in his life through the sacraments, the Eucharist above all. This is all lost on the author of that quotation, who needs for his purpose to say that original sin *never* goes away, so you have to submit to "teachings" in penance. That is a very particular sort of understanding that verges on the cultic.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 01:25 PM (Uk9e2)

250 Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 06:18 PM (z/Ubi) I resent that. *shoots heroin into eyeball*

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 30, 2015 01:25 PM (HtLSE)

251 205 Funny how you conservatives deride "religion" as practiced (so you say) by liberals, but never criticize actually religious people who practice hate to deprive others of pizza merely because of who they love.

Posted by: Zander Peacock at July 30, 2015 06:01 PM (CkjRf)


May I address you as "Average" or the more formal "Mr. Joe"?

...

OK, fine. Mr. Joe, if it is important to you that homosexuals not be deprived of their fair share of pizza, perhaps you should start a homo pizza parlor and use it give pizza to homos free of charge. This is a win-win solution; homos would get free pizza, and you, for perhaps the first time in your life, would be doing some useful.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 30, 2015 01:25 PM (Ta3hG)

252 Hard to listen to. The McWhorter idiot thinks (a) Obama will be vindicated by the Iran deal (In what universe? If they get the bomb, he gets the blame. The Iran deal is a lose-lose.) and seems not to comment on how he can do this deal in the first place without American support and that (b) Obama had no interest in Iran. Really? Just a domestic guy? What, Rashid Khalidi was an expert on trade policy?

Posted by: AmishDude at July 30, 2015 01:25 PM (b65cm)

253 I look for the *strongest* arguments available *against* the position, not lesser material from popularizers that I can easily knock down. ----------------------- “To any one who aims at having clear thoughts and well-based beliefs nothing is more helpful than adverse criticism.” - Sir Robert Anderson

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 01:27 PM (9mTYi)

254
Gracefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan.

And let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

Hire people with hooks.

For a good time, call 606-4311. Ask for Ken.

Posted by: Deteriorata at July 30, 2015 01:30 PM (e8kgV)

255
You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
And whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.

Therefore, make peace with your god,
Whatever you perceive him to be - hairy thunderer, or cosmic muffin.
With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal,
The world continues to deteriorate.
Give up!

Posted by: Deteriorata at July 30, 2015 01:32 PM (e8kgV)

256 205 "Funny how you conservatives deride "religion" as practiced (so you say) by liberals, but never criticize actually religious people who practice hate to deprive others of pizza merely because of who they love." Juvenile, dishonest and incoherent as most leftist assertions/arguments. Also, unintentionally funny. Individual conscience to condone or not condone is not hate. And the proprietors were not depriving anybody of pizza (they served gays happily and regularly).

Posted by: rrpjr at July 30, 2015 01:33 PM (s/yC1)

257 @195 tcn "Makes it (Bible) hard to interpret if you don't have some foundation to work from." Very true.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 30, 2015 01:34 PM (QZDsN)

258 It would behoove him to read more, and not just secularists, but some of the best thinkers on the other side of this issue. When I want to test a personal belief, I look for the *strongest* arguments available *against* the position, not lesser material from popularizers that I can easily knock down. I agree with you; I don't see much evidence that Ace has done that. Atheists who practice that level of intellectual integrity have a habit of becoming Christians.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 01:35 PM (3edTg)

259 OT but funny, in a warped sense of funny way. It seems that a big chunk of the 60 Syrian rebel fighters we have trained, at the low low cost of just $500 million, have been kidnapped or have gone missing at the least.
 
http://tinyurl.com/p7vwo28
 
(PJ Media)

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2015 01:35 PM (jPlFu)

260 Just checking in with my 'white privilege'...dosen`t seem to be working anywhere else in life!

Posted by: TBD at July 30, 2015 01:35 PM (WMjoK)

261 Again, my son goes to school with a Nigerian immigrant girl who scored perfects on the SAT and will graduate early with 4.8+ GPA because all honors and AP. Her dad's a doctor. She will now get free rides to any Ivy she wants (but she doesn't want Ivies because she's Catholic). She's tge daughter of a doctor and the child of a loving, stable marriage. Is that "privilege"? No, it's an advantage that she shares with some white kids, and could share with more black kids. The race hustlers don't want that.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 01:36 PM (Uk9e2)

262 Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2015 06:35 PM (jPlFu) I suspect that falls under the "Well, of course they did" category. The only time this administration shows imagination is in developing new means of graft.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 01:37 PM (GDulk)

263 What I wanted to say about this is that it is glib, wrong, and self-serving. The proper response to original sin is baptism, which erases the original sin and creates a new spiritual life in Christ. Well, not to restart the fight, but that is a specifically Catholic understanding of the role of baptism. To suggest that the ritual of baptism, in and of itself, washes away sin, is something specifically denied by the Reformers, IIRC. It is not a matter of reading a book and following a teaching. It is a matter of participating faithfully, and ever more fully, in the life of a risen person, Jesus. In reading and pondering the Bible, you are living with the Word of God. As a Catholic, you could also be living in his life through the sacraments, the Eucharist above all. This is all lost on the author of that quotation, who needs for his purpose to say that original sin *never* goes away, so you have to submit to "teachings" in penance. That is a very particular sort of understanding that verges on the cultic. I think you are reading a lot into that sentence, particularly the "penance" part. It is kind of hard to argue that Christians continue to sin after conversion....

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 30, 2015 01:38 PM (a42f0)

264 Pizza on Earth, towards men, goodwill. I seem to recall Linus reciting something like that under a single spotlight? Theological question. Pepperoni or Anchovy? Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 30, 2015 01:40 PM (RzZOc)

265 Yahoo! headline "Wildlife Agency Unable to Reach Cecil's Killer". Ya think? Why ever would he have made himself scarce?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 01:40 PM (GDulk)

266 Anyone ever hear of what became of the 'gay activist' Amtrak Engineer that crashed at 95 mph while greasing his main gear that resulted in seven deaths?

Posted by: TBD at July 30, 2015 01:40 PM (WMjoK)

267 Yeah, you're probably right.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 01:40 PM (Uk9e2)

268 Anchovy.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 01:42 PM (Uk9e2)

269 Theological question. Pepperoni or Anchovy? Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at July 30, 2015 06:40 PM (RzZOc) Loaves and Fishes? thus, crust with Anchovies? Gotta wonder about Jesus taste in Pizza... (yeah... yeah.... straight ta hell... I know...)

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 30, 2015 01:42 PM (qh617)

270 Geez I provide direct proof that it's average joe who sucks cock by choice and people are still responding to it as if they are a real liberal.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 01:43 PM (z/Ubi)

271 OT for AtC: Larry Correia even DRAWS hilariously. "Still no time to blog, but I drew a monster truck driving manatee ramming a rocket sled pulled by a chainsaw wielding velociraptor." http://tinyurl.com/pkmvvww

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 30, 2015 01:44 PM (egLDQ)

272 Faith comes by hearing/reading the word of God.  One can become a Christian by reading the Bible, though I guess usually another Christian is involved.  But then man builds institutions with power structures and corruption and unique codices the "cling to" ... those are religions.  Much of the structure of today's religions comes straight from pagan traditions, adopted hundreds of years after Christ.

We always had to recite the Nicene Creed each week, but "trinity" is not in the Bible, and to say ...   son of God = God the Son ... is as Orwellian as 2+2=5.    Generally much good still comes out of the churches, though the more decentralized the power is, the better, as I see it.  Each person has to study and gain their own insights/belief ... joining a religion may help or hurt.


Posted by: Illiniwek at July 30, 2015 01:46 PM (6zZ5y)

273 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 30, 2015 06:44 PM (egLDQ) Wow, so much Alextopian goodness in one drawing.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 01:48 PM (GDulk)

274 OK Morons - this has absolutely nothing to do with the above post, but since you're the wisest commentors on the internet, perhaps one of you can solve this freakin' common core riddle on my daughter's math homework. The question is: Seven increased by the product of three and a value x is the same as the product of 3 and a value x decreased by seven. I can't figure this out, but I'll treat the solver of this problem to a year subscription of the smartest military blog on the internet.

Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 01:49 PM (UBong)

275 I *think* it means 7+3x = 3(x-7) I'm not good at math though so don't bet large amounts on that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 01:53 PM (GDulk)

276 anyone ever hear of what became of the 'gay activist' Amtrak Engineer that crashed at 95 mph while greasing his main gear that resulted in seven deaths?

Nothing...

Posted by: Colin at July 30, 2015 01:54 PM (pU8wz)

277 241 18 >> I reject the sins of the father argument and so does everyone else when you bring up their asshole ancestors. Riiiiight, X. I refer you to any thread here on Rand Paul for a full and complete refutation of that argument. Posted by: GnuBreed Yeah, not me. I speak for myself. You are right that a lot of morons around here condemn Rand Paul for what they think of Ron Paul with the apple/tree comments. like they have no shitheels in their family.

Posted by: X at July 30, 2015 01:55 PM (foEhe)

278 This is just too funny to wait for an open thread ...

Though advanced, the weapons are not secure. Using a WiFi connection, Sandvik and Auger figured out how to reprogram the rifles scope, disable the ballistic computer and even prevent the weapon from firing. In one test, the couple tricked the onboard computer into believing a .4-ounce bullet weighed 72 pounds, throwing the reticle, and subsequently the shot, off significantly.

Posted by: Chris Kyle at July 30, 2015 01:55 PM (e8kgV)

279 Nah, that sure seems to be what the words are saying, but I don't think it actually works out mathematically. Told you not to bet large sums on my answer.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 01:56 PM (GDulk)

280 Yahoo! headline "Wildlife Agency Unable to Reach Cecil's Killer". Ya think? Why ever would he have made himself scarce? Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 06:40 PM (GDulk) I have to say, while I wouldn't pay $50K to shoot a lion, if I were somehow in Africa and was offered the opportunity to go on a lion hunt and shoot a lion- And it was all legal and above board... Yep. I'd go hunt me a lion. Though, while I'd prefer to shoot a Royal Bengal tiger- cuz, come on, how awesome would that look on your wall... or floor....anyway awesome- I wouldn't because they really are in danger of extinct due to their incredible wang enhancing ability according to the Chinese. To sum up: Lion - Yes, please. Tiger - No thank you.

Posted by: naturalfake, Internet Zillionaire at July 30, 2015 01:56 PM (KUa85)

281 So "smart guns" ain't so smart? Who'da thunk it?

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 01:58 PM (sdi6R)

282 275 I *think* it means 7+3x = 3(x-7) I'm not good at math though so don't bet large amounts on that. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 06:53 PM (GDulk) That can't be it. When you start to solve for that you wind up with 7+ 3x=3x-21. So you get a 0=-14

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 01:58 PM (z/Ubi)

283 White privilege is just a street hustle by individuals who attended Columbia, Harvard, Yale, etc. If you ran it through a structural logic machine the machine would spit it out with a giant LOL print off. It doesn't need to make sense, anymore than that guy selling the knock off Rolex needs to make sense. You simply need to be made uncomfortable enough to pay the guy to leave you alone. Genuine believers exist of course but I'd fathom a guess that most know it's mostly BS. But the accolades, the speaking fees, the guest lecturing it's all too enticing. What else are they going to do with their lives? Those who can become your Allen West or Ben Carson. Those who can't become community organizers and white privilege hustlers.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at July 30, 2015 01:59 PM (xudgf)

284 it's funny how the exact same people have a problem with Rand Paul because of his father have no problem with Rick Perry's "Ni**erhead" democrat daddy. perhaps they just approve.

Posted by: X at July 30, 2015 02:00 PM (foEhe)

285 Seven increased by the product of three and a value x is the same as the product of 3 and a value x decreased by seven. I can't figure this out, but I'll treat the solver of this problem to a year subscription of the smartest military blog on the internet. Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 06:49 PM (UBong) So if I'm interpreting this correctly ... 7 + 3x = 3(x - 7)? Or 7 + 3x = 3x - 7? (Depending on what exactly is decreased by 7: x, which is then multiplied by 3, or the product of 3 with x.) Actually, neither one makes sense. The first one reduces to 7 = -21, and the second to 7 = -7. Common core math: training the government financial wizards of tomorrow!

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:00 PM (oKE6c)

286 I *think* it means 7+3x = 3(x-7) The wording allows 7+3x = 3x - 7 As well. Neither equations make sense as the 3x on both sides of the equation cancels out. Best bet is to look at the example problems and find out where else they use the same retarded ambiguous wording.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 02:01 PM (3edTg)

287 81 degrees, 86% humidity the air is so warm and heavy

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 02:01 PM (7CyjY)

288 Posted by: naturalfake, Internet Zillionaire at July 30, 2015 06:56 PM (KUa85) the Dentist was using a Bow... Thus we KNOW he was evil, because he chose the Bow over the more effective Crossbow... /runs out of thread... giggling....

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 30, 2015 02:01 PM (qh617)

289 Posted by: naturalfake, Internet Zillionaire at July 30, 2015 06:56 PM (KUa85) Given that the US and Zimbabwean governments *and* a frothing zombie horde are all looking for him, it's hardly surprising he's not advertising his whereabouts at the moment. Wonder how good of a bolthole he has.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:01 PM (GDulk)

290 @282 and @275 Yeah, I think s/he presented the question correctly, but I still can't make it work. I think the question is just jacked.

Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 02:01 PM (UBong)

291 Bah, Jay beat me to it by a minute.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 02:01 PM (3edTg)

292 @286 - Guess what...common core somehow doesn't require a text book. So, no examples are forthcoming.

Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 02:02 PM (UBong)

293 Common core math: training the government financial wizards of tomorrow! Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 30, 2015 07:00 PM (oKE6c) Well.... we kind of like it...

Posted by: East Anglia, and IPCC Mathematicians at July 30, 2015 02:03 PM (qh617)

294 291 Bah, Jay beat me to it by a minute. Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 07:01 PM (3edTg) Speed typing FTW!

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:03 PM (oKE6c)

295 292 @286 - Guess what...common core somehow doesn't require a text book. So, no examples are forthcoming. Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:02 PM (UBong) Not even Das Kapital? Strange.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:04 PM (oKE6c)

296 test

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 30, 2015 02:05 PM (KCxzN)

297 Am I the first wise ass to ask about the new cob?

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 02:05 PM (2iV3X)

298 292 @286 - Guess what...common core somehow doesn't require a text book. So, no examples are forthcoming. Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:02 PM (UBong) Just have them pick an answer and to say that they feel it is correct. That's all that's necessary for common core anyways. And how can it not require a textbook? Most of Jebby MyTurn's support of common core is based on the money he has involved with the textbook makers for this crap.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 02:05 PM (z/Ubi)

299 Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 30, 2015 07:00 PM (oKE6c) Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 07:01 PM (3edTg) Good to know it's not just me. I came to the conclusion long ago that math is a foreign language (same "because it is" reason for why something is what it is) and most textbooks do a deplorable job of translating between the spoken and numerical languages.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:06 PM (GDulk)

300 hey, it worked!

g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 30, 2015 02:06 PM (KCxzN)

301 Yeah, I think s/he presented the question correctly, but I still can't make it work. I think the question is just jacked. Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:01 PM (UBong) Just out of curiosity, what was the question? What were you supposed to find?

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:06 PM (oKE6c)

302 It really is quite religious. White people are born with the sin if being white, but they can atone by certain works of penance and/or seeking absolution from their high priests and/or through the purchase of indulgences.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2015 02:07 PM (mx5oN)

303 The answer is 7 self-identifies as -7. Caitlyn Jenner wrote this problem, obviously.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:07 PM (oKE6c)

304 It is nothing like Christianity, which is univerdal and applies to all mankind, the church of Ta Nehisi Coates is saying that there is a special class of divine unstained people and a special class of the Damned. So maybe it is like strict Calvinism... But at least they admit to being depraved I don't have trouble with original sin, I'm Catholic after all, but the thing is that only Jesus and Mary, the latter through a very special protection, the former because he was God, were free from this. In Christianity we are ALL damned by original sin unless Saved, but even when we are saved we are still sinners. What is great about the Church of Ta Nehisi Coates is that while all white people are like this, black people, specifically American Black People are not. This is like declaring divinity. If we say that some person is a special and is blameless and all others must make sure that they must never offend them and make continous penances, and any harm the blameworthy do to them is a completely different crime than when committed against other blameworthy, we are saying they are a divine being, a god. So basically these people want to declare the black race a magical race, a special people set aside and better than all other people, and they want to use force to enforce it. Add in the special categories like "White Hispanic" where a light skin Peruvian negro is transformed, or the rage and accusations of distraction that comes up if you mention that American Indians are shot by police at a higher rate than African Americans and have worse results than any other group, while simultaneously being used to prove the evil of white folk. Along with the way there is a rank system where some minorities can use this against some but must still defer to African Americans, and you get a caste system. Whites are the Dalits, untouchables, and Affrican Americans are the Brahmins, but we are still waiting to find out where everyone else fits in. Hispanics are pretty high up there, maybe just below Muslim Americans, but like them they can lose caste. Ayaan Hirsi Ali may be a very black person and a muslim, but by speaking against the system she lost caste and became untouchable, but not a Dalit. If she repented she could be cleansed through ritual and returned to her natural state of grace where she would have authority over all non blacks. But a white hispanic, which can be any hispanic immediately becomes a Dalit, a permanent untouchable, when they transgress, and that transgression can be as simple as voting for a Republican or as complex as being slowly cast out over a long time by exhibiting white behavior regularly. This suggests they are Vaisya, the second lowest of the specific cases, but still used as a weapon against the Dalits. Asians are clearly Shudras, almost untouchables but some carefully observed and trained may make useful enforcers. As someone with American Indians in my family, the real kind living in trailers on reservations in the middle of the desert making jewelry and getting drunk and/or joining the army, but only if they have a chance of getting killed, I am very curious where people like my cousins will end up. I suspect it will still be at the bottom. They don't have the temperment for it and even the ones who go to Dartmouth and become activists always manage to piss off black people. This isn't a religion for anyone who wants to be left alone. I do suspect though

Posted by: RoyL at July 30, 2015 02:07 PM (TTe2A)

305 @301 - I stated the question as it was on her worksheet. The instructions read: "Set up an equation to help you solve each word problem below. Check your work by substituting your your answer back into your equation."

Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 02:08 PM (UBong)

306 289 Posted by: naturalfake, Internet Zillionaire at July 30, 2015 06:56 PM (KUa85) Given that the US and Zimbabwean governments *and* a frothing zombie horde are all looking for him, it's hardly surprising he's not advertising his whereabouts at the moment. Wonder how good of a bolthole he has. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 07:01 PM (GDulk) Yeah, given all that, I guess he better have been a big contributor to the Democrat party. If so- all his troubles will melt away like spring snow.

Posted by: naturalfake, Internet Zillionaire at July 30, 2015 02:08 PM (KUa85)

307 It's a bullshit question, it's impossible to answer.

Posted by: Mona Lisa Vito at July 30, 2015 02:09 PM (4Qpz3)

308 The instructions read: "Set up an equation to help you solve each word problem below. Check your work by substituting your your answer back into your equation." Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:08 PM (UBong) STOP. You're just inflaming my prejudices about the people responsible for common core math.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:09 PM (oKE6c)

309 OK, back. Couldn't find a protest. Anybody mention the latest GDP report that Drudge has had up for at least a day? Sounds like it sort of sux. Unexpectedly

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 02:09 PM (VPLuQ)

310 Ta-nahise Tuxedo and his pal Chumley

Posted by: seamrog at July 30, 2015 02:10 PM (nsE+3)

311 Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:02 PM (UBong) It's summer! is your kid back in school already? Also, your hash seems appropriate as dumb stuff like that question seems enough to drive a rational parent to need chemical alterations of consciousness.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:10 PM (GDulk)

312 "Real" injuns live on reservations? Huh.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 02:11 PM (zyIlW)

313 305 @301 - I stated the question as it was on her worksheet. The instructions read: "Set up an equation to help you solve each word problem below. Check your work by substituting your your answer back into your equation." Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:08 PM (UBong) I'd put down 42... just to see if the teacher has a sense of humor...

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 30, 2015 02:11 PM (qh617)

314 So, no examples are forthcoming. Lacking further context, you tell them: 1.) First part of the sentence resolves to 7 + 3x 2.) Second part of the sentence is ambiguous and could be either of 3x-7 and 3(x-7) 3.) The equality generated by the statement is nonsensical. Doesn't matter how they grade. The teacher should know better than to give a question like that; so either he accepts that as the correct math answer, or he demonstrates he is too incompetent to be teaching math.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 02:11 PM (3edTg)

315 You could just say the question is racist. That's pretty much an all-purpose response.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:12 PM (oKE6c)

316 Assume a spherical "x" ...

Posted by: math answers at July 30, 2015 02:13 PM (4Qpz3)

317 "Now, they talk about how Obama has "evolved" (in a good, embiggening way) in office..." So, these guys are barking mad, then, yes?

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 30, 2015 02:13 PM (LlQKJ)

318 Actually, the question makes perfect sense in the contemporary context. $10 trillion debt + $8 trillion of new debt added by our dusky Messiah = $10 trillion debt attributable to George Bush.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:14 PM (oKE6c)

319 That question is a sexist social construct.

Posted by: Paolo at July 30, 2015 02:15 PM (bh8BI)

320 Real" injuns live on reservations? I don't think RoyL quite said that. He assumed that many real ndns do, in fact, live on reservations; and asserted that his relatives were among these. It would be like someone saying "as one with British relatives, the kind living in England".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2015 02:15 PM (AVEe1)

321 Seven increased by the product of three and a value x is the same as the product of 3 and a value x decreased by seven. The interesting problem here is to try to figure out what question they meant to ask.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:16 PM (oKE6c)

322 This mathematical analysis brought to you by a polite yet firm otter: http://preview.tinyurl.com/npnbnl3

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 02:16 PM (3edTg)

323
Has Obama ordered Old Glory lowered to half-mast to honor Cecil the Lion?  This event is obviously a national tragedy for America, and we must punish those involved to the fullest extent of the law, even if it occurred on foreign soil. 

Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 02:17 PM (OiFtZ)

324 @307 - It's impossible because you don't know it! @311 - My kids have year round school - 9 weeks on, three weeks off. Actualy far superior than traditional. Much better retention. A couple of one day reveiws instead of one month reviews like we had.

Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 02:17 PM (UBong)

325 >>Yeah, given all that, I guess he better have been a big contributor to the Democrat party. If so- all his troubles will melt away like spring snow. *ahem* You rang?

Posted by: Clinton Global Foundation at July 30, 2015 02:18 PM (NOIQH)

326 "Has Obama ordered Old Glory lowered to half-mast to honor Cecil the Lion?" No, but as discussed earlier, he will be illuminating the white House. In Leopard spots. 'Cause he's a dumbass

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 02:18 PM (VPLuQ)

327 Actualy far superior than traditional. ------ *Reads sentence. Looks at the word problem* Riiiiiiight.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 02:19 PM (z/Ubi)

328 Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:17 PM (UBong) Ah. Crying shame about the Common Core curriculum then. My kids are homeschooled but still have to do schooly stuff during the summer as well.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:19 PM (GDulk)

329 @327 - I was just talking about the calendar NOT the quality of coursework.

Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 02:20 PM (UBong)

330 #RIPKingoftheForest

Posted by: Jen Psocki at July 30, 2015 02:21 PM (Dwehj)

331 The Kurdish militias (YPG, PKK) have been Washington's most effective weapon in the fight against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. But the Obama administration has sold out the Kurds in order to strengthen ties with Turkey and gain access to Turkey's Incirlik Air Base. The agreement to switch sides was made in phone call between President Obama and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan less than 48 hours after a terrorist incident in the Turkish town of Suruc killed 32 people and wounded more than 100 others.

The bombing provided Obama with the cover he needed to throw the Kurds under the bus, cave in to Turkey's demands, and look the other way while Turkish bombers and tanks pounded Kurdish positions in Syria and Iraq. The media has characterized this shocking reversal of US policy as a "game-changer" that will improve US prospects for victory over ISIS. But what the about-face really shows is Washington's inability to conduct a principled foreign policy as well as Obama's eagerness to betray a trusted friend and ally if he sees some advantage in doing so.

Turkish President Erdogan has launched a war against the Kurds; that is what's really happening in Syria at present. The media's view of events -- that Turkey has joined the fight against ISIS -- is mostly spin and propaganda. The fact that the Kurds had been gaining ground against ISIS in areas along the Turkish border, worried political leaders in Ankara that an independent Kurdish state could be emerging. Determined to stop that possibility, they decided to use the bombing in Suruc as an excuse to round up more than 1,000 of Erdogans political enemies (only a small percentage of who are connected to ISIS) while bombing the holy hell out of Kurdish positions in Syria and Iraq. All the while, the media has been portraying this ruthless assault on a de facto US ally, as a war on ISIS. It is not a war on ISIS. It is the manipulation of a terrorist attack to advance the belligerent geopolitical agenda of Turkish and US elites.

Posted by: Jonas Salk at July 30, 2015 02:21 PM (e8kgV)

332 Glenn Loury, John McWhorter and Ta-Nehisi Coates walk into a bar...

Posted by: jeannebodine at July 30, 2015 02:24 PM (SR3U3)

333
The Rover on with Greta giving Trump advise on what he should be doing.  Going to Scotland was detrimental to his campaign, and he should return and begin the hard work. 

Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 02:24 PM (OiFtZ)

334 Jeebus, it smells like death in here.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 30, 2015 02:24 PM (VY8H5)

335 Has Obama ordered Old Glory lowered to half-mast to honor Cecil the Lion?  Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 07:17 PM

I'm waiting for him to castigate those corrupt African countries that encourage -- and of course profit from -- "big game" hunting and poaching. I'm sure he'll be most critical of them for "acting stupidly."

Oh, wait. I forgot. African. It's all okay, except for that evil dentist.

Posted by: MrScribbler[/i] at July 30, 2015 02:25 PM (rCmeG)

336 Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:20 PM (UBong) I was thinking that the advantages to retention coupled with a *useful* curriculum would be very beneficial to students. It's less useful if the curriculum creators didn't make sure the questions actually worked.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:25 PM (GDulk)

337 My philosophy on race and race relations is then French Foreign Legion philosophy: "Black, White, Yellow, Green? Fuck you. March or Fucking Die."

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2015 02:26 PM (hK+jw)

338
Obama will pledge billion's of taxpayer money to Zimbabwe and other African countries to make up for the shortfall after the convinces them to stop big game hunting.  It's the least a Marxist would do for his fellow travelers.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 02:26 PM (OiFtZ)

339 And then I realized that the post number you mentioned was the one *above* mine. So...nevermind.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:27 PM (GDulk)

340 Jeebus, it smells like death in here. Posted by: weft cut-loop You grow numb to it...eventually.

Posted by: Huma at July 30, 2015 02:28 PM (awspb)

341 #onlyProgressiveAndAnimalLivesMatter

Posted by: Jen Psocki at July 30, 2015 02:28 PM (Dwehj)

342 @336 I'll say that this is the first time I've ever seen a question that jacked. And as a whole, the coursework she gets is better than the course work I was getting in 8th grade (well, I'm getting old so perhaps I don't remember the course work). I do think the methods that they teach my 3rd grader are awful, but nothing that can't be overcome.

Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 02:29 PM (UBong)

343 You grow numb to it...eventually.

The Saarlac's lair or Hillary's dry dusty catacomb?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 02:30 PM (FHvBv)

344 Jose Canseco hasn't been making the cut here at the HQ for a while, so he has decided to up his game:
 
Jose Canseco said he will show his support for Caitlyn Jenner and the transgender community by dressing up as a woman.
 
Welcome back to Derisionville, Jose.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2015 02:30 PM (jPlFu)

345 @339 - nah, your point was still valid. And I appreciate your help with the math.

Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 02:31 PM (UBong)

346
Are Jose and Caitlyn dating?

Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 02:31 PM (OiFtZ)

347 The Saarlac's lair or Hillary's dry dusty catacomb? Posted by: Anna Puma Her catacomb be so dry, when we scissor it sounds like rubbing sandpaper together.

Posted by: Huma at July 30, 2015 02:32 PM (awspb)

348 Jose Canseco said he will show his support for Caitlyn Jenner and the transgender community by dressing up as a woman. Welcome back to Derisionville, Jose. Posted by: GnuBreed at July 30, 2015 07:30 PM (jPlFu) Once again, Jose hits it on the head. What? Too soon?

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:33 PM (oKE6c)

349 Perhaps GnuBreed someone should take Jose on a little shopping expedition to 'help' in his transition to 200% the fool.

http://www.shoebuy.com/luichiny-ladies-nite/730456/1512486

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 02:33 PM (FHvBv)

350 Has Obama ordered Old Glory lowered to half-mast to honor Cecil the Lion? No, but FWIW the lions have lowered their flag to half-mast to honor the passing of the American Republic.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 02:34 PM (oKE6c)

351 I do think the methods that they teach my 3rd grader are awful, but nothing that can't be overcome. Posted by: viking at July 30, 2015 07:29 PM

Maybe so. But why should you need to "overcome" them.

It is not the task of schools to turn children into neurotic, uninformed SJWs. Instead, schools are -- or should be -- tasked with making it possible for each child to be a productive part of society who can deal with other humans in society.

My list of people who may perhaps need to be dispensed with if our country and society are not to collapse in a smoldering heap grows longer every day. There are teachers, school administrators and a lot of government drones who "oversee" education on that list.

Posted by: MrScribbler[/i] at July 30, 2015 02:34 PM (rCmeG)

352 Once again, Jose hits it on the head. What? Too soon? Posted by: Jay Guevara Nah, bro.

Posted by: Greg Louganis at July 30, 2015 02:35 PM (awspb)

353 The dialogue and articles were brilliant all around. And practitioners of the faith always complain about the eventual Dogma that befalls even the most carefully scripted arguments, or the hierarchy that ensues. Witness Giordano Bruno..."Maiori forsan cum timore sententiam in me fertis quam ego accipiam ( Perhaps you pronounce this sentence against me with greater fear than I receive it ). Burned at the stake February 17, 1600.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 02:35 PM (u49WF)

354 346 Are Jose and Caitlyn dating? That would truly show support, tapping that 65 year old anus.

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 02:36 PM (2iV3X)

355 Hell, my nuts are like raisins after all of them 'roids. What have I got to lose?

Posted by: Josey Conseco at July 30, 2015 02:38 PM (Dwehj)

356 "....middle-class white kids who go to the liberal arts colleges where this stuff is taught, on their parents' dime, and their poor formation and education makes them easy pickings for anyone -- race hustlers, LGBTQ activists, etc -- to guilt-trip into thinking they have adopt racialist thought-categories wholesale.... This just made me think; where is the cult religion of this generation ? Transcendental meditation, Hare Krishna, Sung Myung Moon, Guru Maharaj Ji, on & on & so on. Clearly it is white privilege & climate change. (and the whole mishegoss of related cosmic debris) Gonna have to think about this for a while ....

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 30, 2015 02:38 PM (go6ud)

357
That would truly show support, tapping that 65 year old anus.

Posted by: fluff

It's confirmed boys and girls, Caitlyn is the bottom!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 02:38 PM (OiFtZ)

358 *rummages on blog*

From the worshipers of the dogma of Environmentalism and how Humans have broken the sacred contract with Gaia ...  that has bearing on Cecil the lion.

Donlon of Slate in 2005 wanted to save a chunk of the African biosphere by importing it to the Great Plains of the United States.  How much of the biosphere?  Well elephants, lions, and cheetahs among others would be introduced.

http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2005/08/no-room-for-homo-sapiens.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 02:44 PM (FHvBv)

359 Ace>For example, in the "Conversation" about race that we are so often told we need to have, the tacit idea is that black people will express their grievances and whites will agree--again, no questions, or at least not real ones. Look for my email.

Posted by: Golfman at July 30, 2015 02:44 PM (48QDY)

360 Oh, it's about time Obama looked into the possibility that PP has been violating the law: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service announced that the agency is investigating the killing of Cecil the Lion, saying it will "go where facts lead." Oops. never mind....

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 02:46 PM (NOIQH)

361 Gabriel Malor had his "macaca" moment here at AoS. He tried to macaca us.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 30, 2015 02:46 PM (7CyjY)

362 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 07:44 PM (FHvBv) To the *Great Plains*?! And *we're* anti-science?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:46 PM (GDulk)

363 >>It's confirmed boys and girls, Caitlyn is the bottom! Logistically, that's how it'd have to be, given Jenner has not been surgically altered yet.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 02:47 PM (NOIQH)

364
I shot a lion in Reno just to watch him die.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk sings Johnny Cash at July 30, 2015 02:48 PM (ODxAs)

365 Going from Madonna to an actual Tranny isn't really that big of a jump, is it?

Posted by: Garrett at July 30, 2015 02:49 PM (RS7N2)

366 Polliwogette.  Well there is that but mainly the hubris behind this thinking.

The same type of thinking that brought the Starling to the US shores or rabbits to Australia.  With disastrous results.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 02:51 PM (rNQTc)

367 I don't think ace is trying to insult or be condescending to his Christian readers. I simply don't think (I'm guessing) that he ever received much religious instruction and he's not interested enough in the subject to read up about it, so when he writes about religion, well, it's like pajama boy writing about having sex with a woman. He thinks he's describing it, but he doesn't really know what it's like, so more knowledgeable people say "WTF?"

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 30, 2015 02:52 PM (+XMAD)

368 #309 Who gives a shit about the GDP? Someone shot a lion and SyFy channel starlets of both genders are OUTRAGED about it!

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 30, 2015 02:53 PM (Kucy5)

369 And the moobs. You should friggin' see my moobs.

Posted by: Josey Conseco at July 30, 2015 02:53 PM (Dwehj)

370 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 07:51 PM (rNQTc) Agreed. It takes a special kind of stupid though to pretty much guarantee the extinction of multiple species to "save" them though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:54 PM (GDulk)

371 @304 RoyL The caste system is all in your head. Life is hard. Be harder. The American way, at least as I understood it was, is work, study and improve. Talent and tanacity will be rewarded. The cronyism and nepotism is unvoidable, we all witness that, but change your luck. Feeling sorry for your plight is human. Doing something about it-- well, thats where the wheat is separated from the chaff.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 30, 2015 02:55 PM (QZDsN)

372 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 07:51 PM (rNQTc) I guess the real issue is that "You didn't really think that through before opening your mouth, did you?" characterizes so many progressive "brilliant!" plans.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:56 PM (GDulk)

373
You know, if someone would like to put up a post on Jeb!  being a check signer for Mayor Bloodberg's* Planned Parenthood baby killing machine, I've got some quotes rtg.


*typo -- but actually spot on

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 30, 2015 02:56 PM (kdS6q)

374 i don't need another lecture about race and racism........when is this shit going to stop? the stain of unearned priveledge......omg.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 30, 2015 02:56 PM (0O7c5)

375 Of course, after re-reading my post... I left the US to pursue my luck elsewhere. Good luck.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 30, 2015 02:57 PM (QZDsN)

376 The caste system is all in your head This was true even in Hindu India, especially South India. Razib Khan @gnxp has posted some fine (if densely-written) pieces on that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2015 02:57 PM (AVEe1)

377 Glah! Typing (even as poorly as I generally do it) used to keep the dyslexia at bay. It seems like the more I type, the more I realize I typed in the wrong order or from the other side of the keyboard.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 02:57 PM (GDulk)

378 Common core math: training the government financial wizards of tomorrow! _______________________ There's a dispute going on in the twitter-verse right now over some equally bad math. Somebody tweeted that the $360,000,000 spent to introduce Obamacare would have been better spent just giving each American $1 million. So then a bunch of people point out that that doesn't make sense, because there are more than 300,000,000 Americans. But in all the arguments about the original tweet's faulty math, what nobody seems to realize is that the federal Obamacare website, all by itself, cost taxpayers over a BILLION dollars (and counting), and most of the states' websites each cost taxpayers many millions more just to construct. Plus if you add in all the added premiums and the federal O-Care subsidies -- which are costing billions of tax dollars every year -- the entire O-Care scheme will end up costing taxpayers TRILLIONS of dollars -- so the original tweet was more right than wrong (even if the math was bad).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 30, 2015 02:58 PM (kGrdk)

379 Jenner is suppose to be dating a tranne who did have his wang whacked off. So, lord knows what they do in bed.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 02:58 PM (iQIUe)

380 I wish Israel would sponsor a UN Resolution declaring a Kurdish State. That would make me laugh for days.

Posted by: Garrett at July 30, 2015 02:59 PM (RS7N2)

381 Has Obama ordered Old Glory lowered to half-mast to honor Cecil the Lion? Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 07:17 PM Someone in my neighborhood has their flag at half mast. I have no idea why.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 30, 2015 03:01 PM (W5DcG)

382 McWhorter: "But let's face it--no one, including Coates himself, I presume, has any hope that our current Congress is about to give reparations for slavery to black people in any significant way." That's what a lot of current government spending is for.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:01 PM (Uk9e2)

383 Has it really just occurred to some that Obamacare was always and will always be a "jobs" program. The TSA too. Good luck getting rid of either.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 03:03 PM (u49WF)

384 Polliwogette, now imagine some big name rich person who is a big progressive decided to act on Donlon's suggestion.  And the hardcore Environmentalists are of course aghast at the concept but the rich person buys off the right people in a Dem administration.

So the whole show is set up ala Jurassic World just a short tram trip off the Vegas strip.  But those eco-warriors sabotage the show.  So all kinds of beasts including lions are now loose on the strip.

Would that make a good SyFy movie?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:03 PM (rNQTc)

385 @331 Jonas Salk Erdogan just recently got hammered at the ballot box and the Kurdish parties made gains. The Kurds military gains has given them cred. Wag-the-dog Turkish style.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 30, 2015 03:04 PM (QZDsN)

386 Former Obama buddy WH chef Sam Kass gets a job an MSNBC --- and then his wife's show is cancelled. Bummer, dude.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:06 PM (NOIQH)

387 Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 08:03 PM (u49WF) Who does it employ? I guess more IRS agents if they get their way. Other than that it's going to be low level file clerks for the added paperwork, but that's going to be offset by actual *medical* professionals leaving the field.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:06 PM (GDulk)

388 out damned spot! Coates thinks of us all as lady macbeths sorry, my kind came here with nothing in 1916 does Coates ever talk about the black descendants of black slavers? curious

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:06 PM (Uk9e2)

389 Voting for Boner and Mc Cuckell was a purely metaphysical gesture. Oh I'm using the term "cuck" in the nonracist Shakeperian way. Please don't ban me.

Posted by: Newagegop at July 30, 2015 03:07 PM (fzpuX)

390 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 08:03 PM (rNQTc) Ugh, but probably. Can't really be worse than Sharktopus can it?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:07 PM (GDulk)

391 379 Jenner is suppose to be dating a tranne who did have his wang whacked off. So, lord knows what they do in bed. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 07:58 PM (iQIUe) Exchange antidepressants.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 03:08 PM (z/Ubi)

392 Polliwogette, well the liberal viewers would be so conflicted...  do they root for the guys trying to save the animals, the animals themselves, or that elderly couple at the casino buffet as the 500lb lion starts looking for a snack.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:09 PM (rNQTc)

393 Oh I'm using the term "cuck" in the nonracist Shakeperian way. Please don't ban me. Posted by: Newagegop Doan rightly know why a body'd be banned jes fer sayin' "cuck".

Posted by: Cuck Finn at July 30, 2015 03:10 PM (awspb)

394 Ta-Nehisi Coates I never heard of this guy. Is he related to Ma-Gnumagniminga Jacket?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2015 03:10 PM (MYSVz)

395 >>So the whole show is set up ala Jurassic World just a short tram trip off the Vegas strip. But those eco-warriors sabotage the show. So all kinds of beasts including lions are now loose on the strip. Would that make a good SyFy movie? Would it have to be like Jurassic Park, or could it be like the Wild Animal Sanctuary her in CO that rescues predators and gives them room to roam. Visiting is quite an experience because you have to go immediately from your car (near bear enclosure double fences) to the center. It is NOT a zoo; it's for the animals, visitors are just allowed in order to raise $$$. So the animals are as wild as they could possibly be in captivity.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:10 PM (NOIQH)

396 Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2015 08:10 PM (NOIQH) I think that's where my m-i-l wanted to take us when we were in CO but my f-i-l's poor health prevented us.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:13 PM (GDulk)

397 No idea at all Lizzy, this is just a what-if concept that just bubbled to the surface...   arising from the hubris of humans who think they can bring a good chuck of the African biosphere to the US in a harebrained scheme of saving endangered African species....

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:14 PM (rNQTc)

398 Coates isn't an "Antiracist." He's a racist, seeking to make everyone else a racist.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:14 PM (Uk9e2)

399 Red state don't take kindly to the term. It's a bannin offense. Speech codes are strictly enforced in Ericville.

Posted by: Newagegop at July 30, 2015 03:16 PM (fzpuX)

400
What happened to Judge Andrew Napolitano?

Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 03:18 PM (OiFtZ)

401 >>> Coates isn't an "Antiracist." He's a racist, seeking to make everyone else a racist. It's an adolescent point of view. Respect me as a man, but indulge me as a child.

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 03:19 PM (2iV3X)

402 >> No idea at all Lizzy, this is just a what-if concept that just bubbled to the surface... It's a good idea --- sort of a take-off on Eric Larson's "Beast in the Garden" where some of my former Boulder neighbors were so charmed by mountain lions wandering in their gardens they had mixed feelings about the fact that they were a menace to small pets and people. Don't kill the sweet big kitty's, you guys -Roaaarh! Oof! Helllllllp.....

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:19 PM (NOIQH)

403 McWhorter sounds like Carl Schmitt or Eric Voegelin: secular ideas are liquidated theological or gnostic ideas.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:20 PM (Uk9e2)

404 I waz cute and bitey.

Posted by: Zombie Cecil at July 30, 2015 03:21 PM (Dwehj)

405 >>I think that's where my m-i-l wanted to take us when we were in CO but my f-i-l's poor health prevented us. They do good work, and it's a private organization. They rescue a lot of abused animals that really have no business being kept as pets. But it's a bit creepy watching from the elevated walkway as a tiger stalks it's prey only to realize it's one of the employees at the fence line. They are not tame.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:21 PM (NOIQH)

406 Darwin Award for Cecil the Lion!

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:22 PM (Uk9e2)

407
Red state don't take kindly to the term. It's a bannin offense. Speech codes are strictly enforced in Ericville.
Posted by: Newagegop



As I recall, at Red State it was bannable to support Romney in the primaries, until a couple of days later when it was bannable to not support him.

Something like that.  Impossible to NORAD Erik's emotional swings nowadays.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 30, 2015 03:22 PM (kdS6q)

408 Barack Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people and will use any event to showcase this fact. If I disagree with Barack it is because I am racist, bigoted or ignorant or all three but he is trying to reach out, even handed and looking to help me correct my thinking. This is straight out of any Communist re-education camp from Havana to Hanoi. Fuck him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 30, 2015 03:22 PM (JG47A)

409 No. I don't entertain bullshit. I don't tolerate it either.

Posted by: halodoc at July 30, 2015 03:22 PM (Fzbp3)

410 You are, in short, permitted to disagree with them or critique them without securing permission to do so beforehand. Bwaaaaa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ah......... Yeah, try that sometime. Bwaaaaa-ha--ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at July 30, 2015 03:23 PM (DzWtF)

411 Never heard of Beast in the Garden but sounds interesting... 

First will be 'ooooohing and aaaaaahing followed by running and screaming' so accurately describes it all.

Florida is worse off because the climate IS hospitable to so many dangerous species.  On top of alligators in the canals snacking on yappy dogs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:27 PM (rNQTc)

412 Let's not forget the anacondas that can swallow a person whole...or are they pythons that will take their sweet time crushing you? In any case, fuck Florida.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:29 PM (zyIlW)

413 I've been checking out the American Renaissance site that was linked a couple of threads ago. It has some good, thoughtful posts and comments. http://www.amren.com/ The guy who linked it this afternoon was run off as a "Stormfront troll". Anybody who sees no difference between that site and Stormfront deserves to be called a "cuckservative", frankly. No, I don't agree with all of the comments I've seen there. I don't agree with all of the comments I see here, either.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 03:30 PM (sdi6R)

414 Lizzy, So people stand atop an elevated walkway to watch the kittehs? Just how sturdy is this walkway?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:31 PM (zyIlW)

415 Let's not forget the anacondas that can swallow a person whole...or are they pythons that will take their sweet time crushing you? In any case, fuck Florida. Posted by: SMFH It depends on how drunk you are when you start fucking with them. Now hold my beer and watch this...

Posted by: FloridaMan at July 30, 2015 03:31 PM (awspb)

416 >>Never heard of Beast in the Garden but sounds interesting... You should check it out to get an idea of how these nature-lovers think. The author lays out how after it became illegal to hunt mountain lions, people settled in their habitat, and the nature-loving culture kicked in, these cats altered behavior that had been documented for hundreds of years and began hunting in broad daylight. And still, these people are charmed by a beasty sunning itself on their back porch because it's "nature". Uh, no, it's a predator asserting its dominance in the face of your weakness.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:31 PM (NOIQH)

417 "Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"... "Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange." Zimbabweans are smarter than Mia Farrow.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:33 PM (Uk9e2)

418 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 08:06 PM (GDulk) The way I understand, the IRS yes, but also the "Call Centers" - there is one about 8 miles from my locale where an inordinate amount of "employees" with Obama/Biden 2012 bumper stickers reside. ( and will not do interviews with the press ) Also, by eventually adding an unknown quantity of formerly uninsured people, the health care industry here has been expanding steadily. The cost will go up, partly to pay for the additional workforce. Certainly not great paying jobs - that's why the progs will try to push the minimum wage up. Not to mention the tax prep help that businesses will incur. Like they said "if you think health care is expensive now...wait until it's free".

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 03:33 PM (u49WF)

419 GBruno.....take a video or pictures of the parking lot with the building in the background

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 30, 2015 03:34 PM (0O7c5)

420 Liberals view the world through the blood tinted spectacles of Rousseau's Nobel Savage myth.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:35 PM (rNQTc)

421
In any case, fuck Florida.

 Posted by: SMFH

Looking at a topographical map of Florida, you will note the state appears to be a penis dressed left, and if you wish to fuck Florida, it's best to insert your penis in the panhandle around the Pensacola anal orifice.  Reach arounds not permitted by law. 

Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 30, 2015 03:36 PM (OiFtZ)

422 eerr  Noble Savage

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:36 PM (rNQTc)

423 Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 08:33 PM (Uk9e2) My understanding is that Africans have a much more jaded view of the "awesome" wild animals. I know that my parents friends who moved from Kenya to Colorado don't think much of elephants, especially once one ran through the home of the husband's elderly mother.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:37 PM (GDulk)

424 Thanks for the recommendation, Lizzy. I needed something light-hearted to read. Darwin in action.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:37 PM (zyIlW)

425 412 Let's not forget the anacondas that can swallow a person whole...or are they pythons that will take their sweet time crushing you? In any case, fuck Florida. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 08:29 PM (zyIlW) Hey now. Just stay out of the Everglades and Liberty City and you'll be just fine.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2015 03:38 PM (mx5oN)

426 >>I needed something light-hearted to read.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:38 PM (NOIQH)

427 Bets on if we get a new thread before the ONT?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:38 PM (GDulk)

428 Zimbabweans are smarter than Mia Farrow. Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 08:33 PM (Uk9e2) But they would vote for the same politicians. I wonder what Mia Farrow will think when she hears that Cecil's last name was Rhodes?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2015 03:38 PM (MYSVz)

429 417 "Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country," said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. "What is so special about this one?"... "Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange." Zimbabweans are smarter than Mia Farrow. Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 08:33 PM (Uk9e2) Yeah, all the angst over Cecil is a classic example of "First World Problems".

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 03:39 PM (sdi6R)

430 422 eerr Noble Savage Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 08:36 PM (rNQTc) With Barky you were correct the first time - Nobel Savage.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2015 03:39 PM (MYSVz)

431 Yeah, I'd be kinda pissed if an elephant ran through my mom's house... ... I would....really.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:40 PM (zyIlW)

432 Speaking of Darwin...   how have those bridge swingers fared?  Some of these eco-twits decided to dangle themselves off a bridge.

Lizzy it is always a shocker to the 'enlightened' set to realize nature does not care how down with the struggle they are, just that at the moment they fill a niche in the environment called food.   Just as Treadwell.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:40 PM (rNQTc)

433 >>... especially once one ran through the home of the husband's elderly mother. Yikes! Like having a bear break into your cabin. Not cool.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:41 PM (NOIQH)

434 Mitt Romney - Do The Opposite.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame

Romney blasted Cruz on twitter saying that his rhetroic regarding the Iran Deal was over the top.

Cruz blasted right back and told him "There is a reason you lost to Obama".

Good one.

Posted by: Cheri at July 30, 2015 03:41 PM (ZFPMM)

435 400 What happened to Judge Andrew Napolitano? Twinkies.

Posted by: wooga at July 30, 2015 03:42 PM (zHvpi)

436 Maybe, bet's ask them to be sure. They sure know what it's really like to live next to predators

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:42 PM (Uk9e2)

437 Hah Anna, I read that earlier, and saw the pics of the dangling idiots...and all I could imagine was me being the captain of that ship. "Full speed ahead." Then turn around and go back for those I missed.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:43 PM (zyIlW)

438 >>> Some of these eco-twits decided to dangle themselves off a bridge. If they stay long enough for freezing rain they could be twitsicles.

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 03:43 PM (2iV3X)

439 Elephants attacking humans or going on rampage, there are multiple documented cases of each.  And, unlike a lion, simply closing the doors and windows does not keep an enraged elephant out of the house.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:43 PM (rNQTc)

440 Oh, and the crew would have a piñata party.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:43 PM (zyIlW)

441 >>Lizzy it is always a shocker to the 'enlightened' set to realize nature does not care how down with the struggle they are Yep! My sister went on a hike outside of Vail w/some friends. This was olden times when you had pictures developed - and they made a disturbing discovery" in the background of numerous shots was a mountain lion that had be stalking them.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:44 PM (NOIQH)

442 Cecil would've voted republican, and don't get me started on patriarchy.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:44 PM (Uk9e2)

443 Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 08:40 PM (zyIlW) Yep. I suppose the Kenyan government pays to help rebuild but don't know that for a fact. I seriously doubt the average American would accept living in fear of a buffalo stampeding through their house (probably closest equivalent) but too many have no problem expecting the same of others so they can get their "good feels" high.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:45 PM (GDulk)

444
I dated a Cecil in my young days, and I'm unsure whether the African Cecil was my Cecil.  Burp!

Posted by: Maureen Dowd, NYT at July 30, 2015 03:47 PM (OiFtZ)

445 I saw someone suggested one of those Newton ball chain reaction things should be done to the bridge swingers.

A mountain lion stalking....   after that I would always be packing heat on the hip.  Something with a caliber starting with a 4 and ending in a 5.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:47 PM (rNQTc)

446 Dowdy, you're still alive?

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:47 PM (Uk9e2)

447 Polliwog, True, though seeing buffalo stampeding through these dumbasses' living rooms would provide HOURS of entertainment.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:48 PM (zyIlW)

448 Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2015 08:41 PM (NOIQH) Just remembered, one of my (many) cousins posted on FB this morning pictures of the punctures in their tent from the bear who visited them last nigh while they were camping. He said the kids had slept through it and he and his wife decided not to tell them 'til they were home (their still really young).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:48 PM (GDulk)

449 And no State Farm agent to Tinkerbell them out of danger...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:48 PM (rNQTc)

450 Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 30, 2015 08:34 PM (0O7c5) This Obamacare Call center is in Wentzville MO. This is from STLToday - there's a lot more of these scattered around "Serco won the federal contract in July and selected Wentzville as one of three sites to carry it out. The others are in Arkansas and Kentucky. A benefits and compensation manager with Serco told the Post-Dispatch in August that St. Louis was picked because of its growth potential and high number of college graduates. The company moved operations to the old US Fidelis call center in Wentzville that month. In September, thousands of hopefuls showed up for job interviews at the center. Serco hired 790 people at a pay rate between $14 and $27 an hour with health insurance and a 401(k). According to CMS, the center now has 660 employees." They basically sit around all day and play "Pictionary" etc.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 03:48 PM (u49WF)

451 Polliwog, Holy shit. Were they armed? Please say they were.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:49 PM (zyIlW)

452
Dowdy, you're still alive?

Posted by: Feh

I no longer date republican's, and my disposition is much better since I only date Arabs or Peruvians.

Posted by: Maureen Dowd, NYT at July 30, 2015 03:50 PM (OiFtZ)

453 Damn I went for swim and five cocktails.

OK
"Seven increased by the product of three and a value x is the same as the product of 3 and a value x decreased by seven.

I can't figure this out, but I'll treat the solver of this problem to a year subscription of the smartest military blog on the internet."
--------------

7 X RHUBARB = GREEN TOMATO.
X X HAM = POTATO
GREEN TOMATO = PURPLE - OHM
OHM = POTATO/X

ERGO: GREEN TOMATO - 7X = YELLOW
and the answer, you idiots, is  AMTRAK.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 30, 2015 03:50 PM (f+6Pd)

454 Madame Defarge smiles. Pats David Brooks on the head.

Posted by: dissent555 at July 30, 2015 03:51 PM (yR6A1)

455 Geez Polliwogette...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:51 PM (rNQTc)

456 Dead to me, then. Some things never change.

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 03:51 PM (Uk9e2)

457 Ventriloquist with a twist. (Nice rack, too.) ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3vBYHvG2wE

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 03:51 PM (LImiJ)

458 Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 08:48 PM (u49WF) Wentzville? It must be really new then. Don't think it was there when I lived in Troy two years ago. Seems like it would have been mentioned. Also, I guess we now know what it took to get the DOPe senator (what's his name) to back down.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:52 PM (GDulk)

459 454 Madame Defarge smiles. Pats David Brooks on the head. Posted by: dissent555 at July 30, 2015 08:51 PM (yR6A1) Inventory?

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 03:52 PM (oKE6c)

460 >>the punctures in their tent from the bear who visited them last nigh while they were camping. Yikes! Never crossed a bear while camping. Only time I saw one (two) was hiking in Shenandoah Nat'l Park. A bunch of other hikers were oohing and ahhhing over a couple of adolescent bears. We got out of there fast - did not want to encounter the mama bear!

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:52 PM (NOIQH)

461 They named a town after George Wentz?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:52 PM (rNQTc)

462 Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 08:49 PM (zyIlW) I haven't seen much of them since last living in Colorado, but my guess would be that they weren't. Then again, they could be big gun people and it just never came up.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:53 PM (GDulk)

463 When two elderly women, one named DeFarge and other Trousseau, start hanging around.  Move to a new country quickly.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:54 PM (rNQTc)

464 Was he named after Cecil Rhodes?

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at July 30, 2015 03:54 PM (vccjH)

465 Romney blasted Cruz on twitter saying that his rhetroic regarding the Iran Deal was over the top. Cruz blasted right back and told him "There is a reason you lost to Obama". Good one. - Bar fight with busted beer bottlles.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 03:54 PM (LImiJ)

466 I used to follow a one-eyed man named 'Tennessee Goats' We found him one morning yelling at Starchild and calling her a racist and insisting 'it's time to shut the fuck up, cracka.'

Posted by: Rasta Dale at July 30, 2015 03:55 PM (nc5FK)

467 Cruz said that? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:55 PM (zyIlW)

468 Scheduled For Tomorrow: The 'Blue Moon' debate. Is it..., or isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 03:55 PM (9mTYi)

469 >>...after that I would always be packing heat on the hip. Heh, she doesn't pack, but living in the mountains ensures encounters. While mountain-biking down the maintenance road of the Vail ski resort and came around a bend and locked eyes w/a bear about 30 feet away. She slammed on the breaks, raised her arms and screamed -- and it decided to take off down the mountain. The thing w/mountain lions is they'll attack from behind, will never see it coming.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 03:56 PM (NOIQH)

470 "Ta-Nehisi Coates" is Swahili for "Whiniest little bitch in the whole wide world".

Posted by: model_1066 at July 30, 2015 03:56 PM (WEvvb)

471 My wife got me a present today for our anniversary:  A TRS-80.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 30, 2015 03:56 PM (oVJmc)

472 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 08:52 PM (rNQTc) Who was George Wentz? All I know is the area is near Grant's farm and I didn't even think about what that meant until living in TX and listening to Grant's autobiography. Lots of "Hey, I've heard of that place" from both MO and TX.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 03:57 PM (GDulk)

473 Bar fight with busted beer bottlles. Posted by: The Great White Snark -------------- Vegas makes it 10 to 1 Cruz.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 03:57 PM (9mTYi)

474 Sorry was thinking of George Wendt...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 03:58 PM (rNQTc)

475 My wife got me a present today for our anniversary: A TRS-80. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel ------------------- *caresses his much beloved Model 102*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 03:58 PM (9mTYi)

476 "Part of the reason that Mitt Romney got clobbered by Barack Obama is because we all remember that third debate where Barack Obama turned to Mitt and said, 'I said the Benghazi attack was terrorism and no one is more upset by Benghazi than I am.' And Mitt, I guess listening to his own advice, said, 'Well gosh, I don't want to use any rhetoric. So OK, never mind. I'll just kind of rearrange the pencil on the podium here,'" Cruz said.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 03:58 PM (zyIlW)

477 422 eerr Noble Savage Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 08:36 PM (rNQTc) With Barky you were correct the first time - Nobel Savage. DY-NO-MITE !!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 30, 2015 03:59 PM (W5DcG)

478 464 Was he named after Cecil Rhodes? Posted by: Nick in South Bend at July 30, 2015 08:54 PM (vccjH) He was a lion named Cecil in a country that used to be called Rhodesia, now known as "Toiletia."

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 03:59 PM (oKE6c)

479 Oh wow, something to distract from the hunt for a dentist.

Jennifer Beals left her dog locked in a car.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 04:00 PM (rNQTc)

480 Last year I here described a nighttime encounter with a momma bear with two cubs. It was..., disconcerting, as she began to move in on me as I was backing away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 04:00 PM (9mTYi)

481 476 "Part of the reason that Mitt Romney got clobbered by Barack Obama is because we all remember that third debate where Barack Obama turned to Mitt and said, 'I said the Benghazi attack was terrorism and no one is more upset by Benghazi than I am.' And Mitt, I guess listening to his own advice, said, 'Well gosh, I don't want to use any rhetoric. So OK, never mind. I'll just kind of rearrange the pencil on the podium here,'" Cruz said. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 08:58 PM (zyIlW) He left out mention of Romney getting rabbit-punched by Candy "Fat Ass" Crowley in conjunction with the CPUSA. Roland Freisler was more even-handed.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 04:01 PM (oKE6c)

482 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 08:58 PM (rNQTc) I know of a guy whose *first* name is Wendt who graduated from Annapolis in the same class as McCain. Didn't think much of him. I only know about him though because his wife is a dedicated knitter even though she had a serious stroke a number of years ago. She helped run the Olympic torch (with help, I'd guess) less than a year after the stroke but has had to relearn how to knit and use a wrist brace to hold the left needle. Her dad was killed in WW2. Both he and her stepdad were Navy guys (and I think officers) so it's probably no wonder she married an Annapolis grad.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:03 PM (GDulk)

483 What the hell kind of name is "Ta-Nehisi" anyway? Maternity ward nurse: "Well, Mrs. Coates, what are you going to name your new son?" Mrs. Coates: "I'm partial to naming him 'Ta-Nehisi.'" Nurse: "Oh."

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 04:03 PM (oKE6c)

484 "Why are the Americans more concerned than us?" said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father-of-two cleaning his car in the center of the capital. "We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange." That's how I guessed the locals felt about it ... thanks for confirming it. Lions are more than fuzzy kittens. The people giving out death threats and other Feelz are insane.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 04:03 PM (3edTg)

485 >>> Jennifer Beals left her dog locked in a car. Donna Summers left a cake out in the rain.

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 04:03 PM (2iV3X)

486 David Brooks is the original cuckservative.

Posted by: Justfactualthings at July 30, 2015 04:04 PM (oCxXI)

487 I did not!

Posted by: Zombie Donna Summers at July 30, 2015 04:05 PM (zyIlW)

488 429 - Lions are endangered. Black Africans aren't.

Posted by: Justfactualthings at July 30, 2015 04:05 PM (oCxXI)

489 What did you do, Mike?

Posted by: Feh at July 30, 2015 04:05 PM (Uk9e2)

490 What the hell kind of name is "Ta-Nehisi" anyway?

I think his mother sneezed and they wrote it down.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 30, 2015 04:05 PM (oVJmc)

491 Ten-ness-see is in favor of reparations! Me too, by gaewd! Those darkies owe us white folks a ton of gratitude (measured in $$$) for us saving ther sorry asses from the tribal slaughter that is "AFRICA", as well as the freedom undeservedly given them via 600 K dead in our little internecine dispute, otherwise known as the "Civil War." I figure about $2 million per white individual is more than fair! The tribes' combined NBA/NFL take should easily cover that.

Posted by: Old Codger at July 30, 2015 04:06 PM (fpd99)

492 Disney sure did a job in brainwashing folks. Then again, didn't take too much effort.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 30, 2015 04:06 PM (zyIlW)

493 >>> Lions are more than fuzzy kittens. No, that's exactly what they are. Cats are predators. You don't want to be 1/4 the size of a cat.

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 04:07 PM (2iV3X)

494 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 08:52 PM (GDulk) It was there - just down the road from the GM plant. Ya . . . Todd Akin got sacrificed so they could install a true Obama supporter Sen. Claire McCaskill (D) one of the few Obamacare voters still in office. And Sen. Roy Blunt is a RINO.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 04:09 PM (u49WF)

495 Wow. multiple intellectual infants who just love smearing their poop around. How could we be so lucky?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:09 PM (GDulk)

496 493 Cats are predators. You don't want to be 1/4 the size of a cat. Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 09:07 PM (2iV3X) Yeah, my kittehs would totally eat me if I were smaller than them. They don't even make a secret about it.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 04:11 PM (sdi6R)

497 Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 09:09 PM (u49WF) Blunt. That's the one. Now we know what it took to buy him off. It's been there more than two years? Of course, I'm not sure where exactly the GM plant is either.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:11 PM (GDulk)

498 496 493 Cats are predators. You don't want to be 1/4 the size of a cat. Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 09:07 PM (2iV3X) Yeah, my kittehs would totally eat me if I were smaller than them. They don't even make a secret about it. Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 09:11 PM (sdi6R) They'll eat you now. When you drop dead you're several days meal for those kitties.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 04:12 PM (Gfjz0)

499 498 They'll eat you now. When you drop dead you're several days meal for those kitties. Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 09:12 PM (Gfjz0) And I'm OK with that. It's not like I'll be using my body any more.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 04:14 PM (sdi6R)

500 >>> They'll eat you now. When you drop dead you're several days meal for those kitties. I hear they wait a couple days before nibbling. That's peobably so you can soften.

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 04:15 PM (2iV3X)

501 I waz turning my life around.

Posted by: Zombie Cecil at July 30, 2015 04:16 PM (Dwehj)

502 Posted by: Zombie Cecil at July 30, 2015 09:16 PM (Dwehj) Well see, that was your mistake.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:18 PM (GDulk)

503 Hey, I thought there was to be no math on this blog.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 30, 2015 04:20 PM (egLDQ)

504 I honestly don't know who this Ta-Nehisa is. I've seen Ace mention him/her once or twice. Really haven't seen the name too much elsewhere.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 30, 2015 04:20 PM (7RXcs)

505 Let's look at it this way. Who's probably more of a problem. The dumbass dentist that will probably be banned from ever hunting in Africa again and be heavily scrutinized if he even hunts in the U.S. Or the guides that have probably pulled this sort of thing before and probably will again.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 04:20 PM (z/Ubi)

506 It's always the blondes the media goes after. It's like no black panther ever died in Africa.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 04:21 PM (LImiJ)

507 In the second vine, the cop tries to stop the woman and she swings at him and another dindunuffin jumps in: https://twitter.com/search4swag

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 04:21 PM (iQIUe)

508 Cecil turned me into poop. I got better.

Posted by: Ignorant peasant at July 30, 2015 04:22 PM (bUmSq)

509 Look at Haiti and the DR.

Well, sure, you guys got the good end of the island.

Posted by: Baby Doc at July 30, 2015 05:48 PM (PHsbY)

----------

 

This reminds me of an article written by the comedian Larry Miller for, if I am not mistaken, the Wall Street Journal some 15-20 years back about how both Isreal and "Palestine" were deserts, but the Isrealis worked hard to turn it into something worth living in. Meanwhile, "Palestine" is considered to be the armpit of the middle east.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 30, 2015 04:22 PM (KlVdw)

510 Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 30, 2015 09:20 PM (7RXcs) Actually, I think it's a kind of cool name. Pity it's attached to such a jerk. Greater pity that *his* book is available on OverDrive and P.J. O'Rourke's isn't.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:22 PM (GDulk)

511 Hi all

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at July 30, 2015 04:23 PM (4njDw)

512 "My wife got me a present today for our anniversary: A TRS-80." I'm still trying to gift a Moron a functioning model 100. I'll even pay shipping. Just get ahold of me at the Group.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 04:23 PM (VPLuQ)

513 I was thinking maybe Tah-Nehisie is an anagram of 'Eat Shit', but you have to borrow an extra 't'...and finagle a bit more. Close, though.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 30, 2015 04:23 PM (7RXcs)

514 Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 09:20 PM (z/Ubi) I suspect Zimbabwe wants the dentist because he has the deep pockets (comparatively at the very least). Heck, he may be safer in Zimbabwean custody, at least until he pays up.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:24 PM (GDulk)

515 The chick who jumped on the cop's back claims she was trying to de-escalate the situation. lol https://twitter.com/search4swag

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 04:24 PM (iQIUe)

516 My philosophy on race and race relations is then French Foreign Legion philosophy: "Black, White, Yellow, Green? Fuck you. March or Fucking Die." Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2015 07:26 PM (hK+jw) Always like the mercenary toast "Vive la mort, vive la guerre, vive le sacre mercenaire" despite the fact that it's in French. It's an adaptation of the old Legion toast "Vive la mort, vive la guerre, vive la Legion Etrangere"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 30, 2015 04:26 PM (egLDQ)

517 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 09:24 PM (iQIUe) But of course! Physical assault *always* makes the assaulted calmer. Never known to fail.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:26 PM (GDulk)

518 Romney blasted Cruz on twitter saying that his rhetroic regarding the Iran Deal was over the top. Cruz blasted right back and told him "There is a reason you lost to Obama". _______________ LOL. I like Ted Cruz. He has a set, unlike most of those other GOP*ssies

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 30, 2015 04:28 PM (kGrdk)

519 Oops, premature posting. Meant to add "not enough rolly-eye emoticons in the world".

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:28 PM (GDulk)

520 513 I was thinking maybe Tah-Nehisie is an anagram of 'Eat Shit', but you have to borrow an extra 't'...and finagle a bit more. Close, though. Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 30, 2015 09:23 PM (7RXcs) Ah, that's because you went with the traditional spelling of "Te-Naheasy" ... er ... "Tuh-Nehoozy"... "Duh-Nuhizee" ... that is ... "Der-Gesundheit" ... no, that's not it ... "The-BigEasy" ... lemme try again ... "Ta-Louisie" ... well, you know who I mean.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 04:29 PM (oKE6c)

521 The dumbass dentist that will probably be banned from ever hunting in Africa again and be heavily scrutinized if he even hunts in the U.S. "Ya shot Cecil! Go away!" *Receives $50K payment for a hunting license* "Welcome to Zimbabwe! Please enjoy ya stay!"

Posted by: Zimbabwe Customs Agent at July 30, 2015 04:30 PM (3edTg)

522 I suspect Zimbabwe wants the dentist because he has the deep pockets (comparatively at the very least). In Zimbabwe, owning two jock straps means you have deep pockets.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 30, 2015 04:30 PM (oKE6c)

523 If you're having personal problems, you may want to read this book. http://tinyurl.com/pqwwuhv

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 04:32 PM (LImiJ)

524 Is this thread getting a little smelly? I finished up at work, drove home and cooked dinner and this same smelly-assed thread is at the top!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 30, 2015 04:33 PM (UpGcq)

525 Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 30, 2015 09:30 PM (oKE6c) Unless he beggared himself getting that license, I suspect his net worth is roughly equal to that of the entire nation (minus weapons and military stuff at least).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:33 PM (GDulk)

526 No, that's exactly what they are. Cats are predators. You don't want to be 1/4 the size of a cat. Good thing I didn't say cats then.

Posted by: ConservativeMonsters at July 30, 2015 04:33 PM (3edTg)

527 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 30, 2015 09:33 PM (UpGcq) Late afternoon posts have been very long-lived this week.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:34 PM (GDulk)

528 But of course! Physical assault *always* makes the assaulted calmer. Never known to fail. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 09:26 PM (GDulk) =================== Even more so when you assault a cop. lol

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 04:34 PM (iQIUe)

529 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 09:11 PM (GDulk The Ford and Chrysler plants both crapped out and left. GM is hanging in there. The force is strong with that one. Starting to feel a lot Detroitish around here. The whole Ferguson thing didn't help attract a lot of new biz.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 04:36 PM (u49WF)

530 523 If you're having personal problems, you may want to read this book.

http://tinyurl.com/pqwwuhv

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 30, 2015 09:32 PM (LImiJ)


Book thread material!  Thank you.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 30, 2015 04:36 PM (Ta3hG)

531 Nyah????

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 04:38 PM (rNQTc)

532 Nyah!

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 30, 2015 04:39 PM (Ta3hG)

533
Just get ahold of me at the Group.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 30, 2015 09:23 PM (VPLuQ)



Y'know, I'm following the link in the ONT and I can't access the group.  It says I have to be a member.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 30, 2015 04:40 PM (oVJmc)

534 Ferguson is the result of the thread tonight. They want to rule over the ruins. Remember Stalin "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic".

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 04:41 PM (u49WF)

535 This is hilarious. Remember Red swung serveral times at a cop and the one in blue jumped on the cops back. But the comments are defending their behavior. These people are nuts: https://goo.gl/nHihMy

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 04:42 PM (iQIUe)

536 Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 09:36 PM (u49WF) Ford and Chrysler were both gone when we got there in '09 and everyone thought GM was going too. We were in Troy because John was plant accountant for the Dyno-Nobel site in Louisiana, MO.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:42 PM (GDulk)

537 This post is older than my rigor mortis.

Posted by: Zombie Cecil at July 30, 2015 04:42 PM (Dwehj)

538 "Y'know, I'm following the link in the ONT and I can't access the group. It says I have to be a member." Well, of course. Unlike AoSHQ, the group actually has standards. (Now we just gotta figure out how to get you into the group)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 04:43 PM (VPLuQ)

539 My rigor mortis can beat up your rigor mortis.

Posted by: Movie Review at July 30, 2015 04:47 PM (bUmSq)

540 Great White Snark, that book seems of the sort to create a personal poltergeist.  Roll a D20 to see if you maintain control.

On a more light-hearted note is a book first published in 1985 called A Personal Demon.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nwxzg8x

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2015 04:47 PM (rNQTc)

541 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 09:42 PM (iQIUe) People are stupid and in groups they're stupider. When they haven't been taught how to behave in the first place it's a matter of when, not if, the disaster happens. I'm not Catholic but I do think viewing despair as a sin (something to be tempted to/by but avoid) is very beneficial because otherwise I'd be unable *not* to.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:47 PM (GDulk)

542 Dr. McCoy to the bridge, please.

Posted by: eman at July 30, 2015 04:51 PM (MQEz6)

543 Oh and, hi Chemjeff. Meant to say hi in a more timely manner but got distracted.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 04:53 PM (GDulk)

544 I was raised Catholic but it wasnt until recently that I heard that "despair is a sin" nonsense. Just dump on depressed people even more.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 04:53 PM (iQIUe)

545 Here is my answer to this debate: Fuck off.

Posted by: eman at July 30, 2015 04:54 PM (MQEz6)

546 Yeoman Barrows to the Captain's cabin, please.

Posted by: James T. Kirk at July 30, 2015 04:54 PM (4Qpz3)

547 Fascinating

Posted by: Spock at July 30, 2015 04:55 PM (VPLuQ)

548 If despair is a sin let's have an orgy. An orgy of despair.

Posted by: I'm Making a Career of Evil at July 30, 2015 04:55 PM (BO/km)

549 (Now we just gotta figure out how to get you into the group)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 30, 2015 09:43 PM (VPLuQ)



You have to be a member of yehaw groups and then you can click on the "join" button.

Posted by: GGE of the Vacationing Horde, Myrtle Beach Chapter at July 30, 2015 04:55 PM (YAKRn)

550 Smells like dead lion in here. Half day old dead lion.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at July 30, 2015 04:56 PM (VPLuQ)

551 Poor dead lion. There, I care. Can we move on now?

Posted by: GGE of the Vacationing Horde, Myrtle Beach Chapter at July 30, 2015 04:57 PM (YAKRn)

552 *types*

*deletes*

We can't have "The Conversation" because anything that doesn't *kiss the correct asses* will be called "hate speech" or "racism."

So sick of it.

Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at July 30, 2015 04:58 PM (rhjQp)

553 I can't make the ONT appear any faster. I just dinnah have the powerrr!

Posted by: Scotty at July 30, 2015 04:58 PM (d+1U8)

554 Cecil shot first.

Posted by: eman at July 30, 2015 04:58 PM (MQEz6)

555 There are four lions!! *POW* Make that three lions.

Posted by: Picard at July 30, 2015 05:00 PM (MQEz6)

556 >>> Poor dead lion. There, I care. Can we move on now? You'll have to wear this ribbon. It has a mane!

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 05:00 PM (2iV3X)

557 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 09:42 PM (GDulk) Classic White Flight around here. And I'm not convinced it will end any time soon. I don't see 2016 helping at all - no matter who wins it. We're all screwed.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 05:00 PM (u49WF)

558 *toot*

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 30, 2015 05:01 PM (VY8H5)

559 Is there a new thread strike or something? Has twitter ruined AOSHQ?

Posted by: seamrog at July 30, 2015 05:01 PM (nsE+3)

560 "Cecil shot first." Don't get cocky, kid

Posted by: Han at July 30, 2015 05:03 PM (VPLuQ)

561 >>>Poor dead lion. There, I care. Can we move on now?

You'll have to wear this ribbon. It has a mane!

Posted by: fluffy at July 30, 2015 10:00 PM (2iV3X)<<<



We're going to make December Cecil/lion awareness month.

Posted by: the NFL at July 30, 2015 05:04 PM (d+1U8)

562 There are still people claiming that Sandra Bland was murdered. Do they think they can make money? Or are they mentally ill?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 05:06 PM (iQIUe)

563 The NFL has granted the Detroit Lions four bonus wins.

Posted by: Picard at July 30, 2015 05:07 PM (MQEz6)

564 I'm kinda worried about Ace. Hasn't been the same since citizen K thing? Something ain't right.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 05:08 PM (u49WF)

565 Paws Up!

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at July 30, 2015 05:13 PM (9mTYi)

566 Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 10:08 PM (u49WF) My understanding is that along with his legitimate concerns for his own safety and work, Ace also has a mom and brother that are potential targets as well. And the nameless slime has proven himself very willing to go after those who aren't involved in his imagined disputes so until the threats to reveal Ace's identity are truly over I wouldn't be surprised if he has a hard time focusing here.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 05:13 PM (GDulk)

567 I had to get in an accident just to get away from that crazy bitch.

Posted by: Brad the car at July 30, 2015 05:14 PM (BO/km)

568 >>>Cecil shot first.

Posted by: eman at July 30, 2015 09:58 PM (MQEz6)<<<



Should've brought a throwdown. 

Posted by: shady hunting guide at July 30, 2015 05:14 PM (d+1U8)

569 Somebody hose this thing out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 05:15 PM (C6hcv)

570 GBruno-- yeah, he's busy battling some *More*  bullshit lawfare. 

The cobs fill in when/where they can.

Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at July 30, 2015 05:15 PM (rhjQp)

571 well I guess ONT is a bit delayed.  that is okay. everyone is a volunteer.

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at July 30, 2015 05:17 PM (4njDw)

572 Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at July 30, 2015 10:17 PM (4njDw) ONTs seem like they've been late all week. I guess everyone's schedule is messed up when Ace's is.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 05:20 PM (GDulk)

573 571 well I guess ONT is a bit delayed. that is okay. everyone is a volunteer. Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at July 30, 2015 10:17 PM (4njDw) That's not how it's done. You're supposed to demand to know where maet is and what he's doing that is causing the delay. And complain about the other cobloggers knowing but refusing to say anything.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2015 05:22 PM (z/Ubi)

574 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 10:13 PM (GDulk) And all the more reason to keep the faith, fight the good fight, be thankful for all we've been given, and realize there are so many that give so much. I'm not sure of the Latin on this one but I had a good friend on a Navy boomer and their motto was "illigitimus non carborundum" "Never let the bastards wear you down"

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 05:23 PM (u49WF)

575
http://tinyurl.com/pwoxk9j

I have never see "illegal alien" spelled as "believed to be an American of Hispanic descent".

Actually, I don't know, but it was weird that AP put it that way.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 30, 2015 05:24 PM (ODxAs)

576 This relates to another current piece of sporting news. Tim Tebow is trying to play football again, and the media is reporting that he is "polarizing", apparently due to the fact that he is openly Christian. Most black NFL players are openly Christian and make physical signs on the field often about their religion, including group prayers on their knees with heads bowed. We never hear a negative word about that from the press. Apparently it's only polarizing when a white person is openly religious.

Posted by: Zombie Cecil the Lion at July 30, 2015 05:25 PM (1Y+hH)

577 "Brooks, here, is genuflecting, as America now does in general to Antiracist scripture." If antiracism is a religion, then accusations of racism are the religious equivalent to accusations of, basically, Satanism. If anyone's willing to consider this somewhat seriously, it's fun to go read something like Gabe's Cuck Part Deux article and replace all mentions of words like racism with appropriate references from The Crucible about Goody Chastity practicing witchcraft to see how or if it changes the tone. Not all of it. Some arguments/comments fit the sound of someone denouncing heretics better than others. Try it and see. Ace sounds like he's treading dangerously close to the crypto-Quaker thesis. That shit will get you kicked out of tech conferences.

Posted by: Just an observation at July 30, 2015 05:27 PM (p6UPL)

578 Damn I went for swim and five cocktails.
OK
"Seven increased by the product of three and a value x is the same as the product of 3 and a value x decreased by seven.

I can't figure this out, but I'll treat the solver of this problem
to a year subscription of the smartest military blog on the internet."


The answer is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmLjVD2VAws

Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2015 05:27 PM (3pRHP)

579 When did sports reporting become total shit?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 05:28 PM (iQIUe)

580 >>>We never hear a negative word about that from the press. Apparently it's only polarizing when a white person is openly religious.

Posted by: Zombie Cecil the Lion at July 30, 2015 10:25 PM (1Y+hH)<<<



'Cause everyone knew if they said something about me praying, I'd kill 'em.

Posted by: Ray Lewis at July 30, 2015 05:28 PM (d+1U8)

581 ""illigitimus non carborundum" "Never let the bastards wear you down" The "iligitimus" sounds good for "bastards." Google confirms the phrase. It's "mock" Latin.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 05:29 PM (C6hcv)

582 I did not realize that the Shanes (or at least Tana) were Crow indians.

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at July 30, 2015 05:29 PM (9mTYi)

583 This relates to another current piece of sporting news. Tim Tebow is trying to play football again, and the media is reporting that he is "polarizing", apparently due to the fact that he is openly Christian.





Jenner said he was a Republican and was still worshiped by the MFM. Tim should say he's going to play football in a dress and as Tina Tebow. It would give the MFM fits.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 05:31 PM (DiZBp)

584 These activists solicited funds for housing and rented apts which they then stopped paying rent on after one month. Now they've been evicted. They also solicited funds to furnish these apts. What a scam. They moved from Ferguson/Stlouis to Baltimore.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 05:31 PM (iQIUe)

585 My wife got me a present today for our anniversary: A TRS-80.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 30, 2015 08:56 PM (oVJmc)


Did you get the expansion keyboard with or without the numerical keypad?
And did you get the high-reproduction cassette tape recorder to go with it?
And the book of BASIC program games?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2015 05:31 PM (3pRHP)

586 "Christian and make physical signs on the field often about their religion, including group prayers on their knees with heads bowed. " Had the exact same thought. You see displays of Christianity all of the time in the NFL. Not an issue. I don't know why Tebow is the thing he is for the media.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 05:31 PM (C6hcv)

587 g'early evenin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 30, 2015 05:33 PM (KCxzN)

588 " When did sports reporting become total shit?" I would say about the time all reporting became shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 05:35 PM (C6hcv)

589 okay since ONT is late..

what do you all think of the Nissan Versa?

Thinking of buying one tomorrow

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at July 30, 2015 05:35 PM (4njDw)

590 FBI: Suspect in Montana shooting tells investigators he fired because woman laughed at him Pic: http://preview.tinyurl.com/p6tu3v5

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 05:35 PM (9mTYi)

591 >>>Had the exact same thought. You see displays of Christianity all of the time in the NFL. Not an issue.

I don't know why Tebow is the thing he is for the media.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 10:31 PM (C6hcv)<<<



He actually believes in it.

Posted by: E!SPN and the rest of the sports media at July 30, 2015 05:35 PM (d+1U8)

592 Sports jornolist: http://goo.gl/gv6BxC What an asshole!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 05:36 PM (iQIUe)

593 I don't know why Tebow is the thing he is for the media.

Its as simple as his mom choose not to abort him.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 30, 2015 05:37 PM (ODxAs)

594 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 10:29 PM (C6hcv) The only other one they had was "If you have half a brain to work here, that's all you need". Didn't really seem to fit the discussion tonight. And they were just carrying a boat load of nukes.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 05:37 PM (u49WF)

595 I saw an example of the racial conversation a few weeks ago. "Activists" want to remove statues of Southern figures from UT Austin. One person said that they want input from all alumni, current students and interested parties but not from anyone coming from White Privilege. I think she made me a racist. I wanted to punch her in the face.

Posted by: Daybrother at July 30, 2015 05:38 PM (3hf/S)

596 >>Apparently it's only polarizing when a white person is openly religious. While it's true that black Christians are infinitely more acceptable than white one, Tebow crossed the line: he made a pro-life ad that ran during a Super Bowl telecast. That kind of sin cannot be forgiven or forgotten. Unlike, say, engaging in dogfighting.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 05:38 PM (NOIQH)

597 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 10:31 PM (C6hcv) I still think it's less because he's a Christian (that's just the club used) and more because he isn't dead like he's "supposed" to be. He puts the lie to "A life not worth living" and must be destroyed.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 05:38 PM (GDulk)

598 Sleepy time. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Vacationing Horde, Myrtle Beach Chapter at July 30, 2015 05:38 PM (YAKRn)

599 Zimbabwean baffled by foreign concern for killed lion

"It's so cruel, but I don't understand the whole fuss, there are so many pressing issues in Zimbabwe - we have water shortages, no electricity and no jobs - yet people are making noise about a lion?" said Eunice Vhunise



What are all those things compared to an animal that 2 days ago no one knew about?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 05:38 PM (DiZBp)

600 "Thinking of buying one tomorrow" Don't own personally but my company does. Mixed results. It's employees driving them so they don't give a shit but some have been fine and others have turned up broken engine mounts, thrashed trannys.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 05:39 PM (C6hcv)

601 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 30, 2015 10:37 PM (ODxAs) You beat me to it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 05:39 PM (GDulk)

602 589: Have a Nissan Juke. Great car, no problems. Drove a Versa as a rental, got me where I needed to go. A bit crude though.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at July 30, 2015 05:40 PM (ucDmr)

603 "Didn't really seem to fit the discussion tonight. " Au contraire, I think it would do nicely in a place like this.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 05:41 PM (C6hcv)

604 There is no ONT. Only Zuul!

Posted by: Dana Barrett at July 30, 2015 05:41 PM (+1T7c)

605 >>He puts the lie to "A life not worth living" and must be destroyed. Worse, his mother risked her life to carry him to term. She had the perfect excuse to late-term abort and she refused.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at July 30, 2015 05:41 PM (NOIQH)

606 I don't know why Tebow is the thing he is for the media. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 10:31 PM (C6hcv) He doesn't lose when he's supposed to.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2015 05:42 PM (MYSVz)

607 593 I don't know why Tebow is the thing he is for the media. ------------- Its as simple as his mom choose not to abort him #WrongChoice

Posted by: Pro-choice Media at July 30, 2015 05:42 PM (3edTg)

608 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 10:31 PM (iQIUe) And crossing state lines to incite a riot is a federal crime, but then that assumes Lynch is actually a justice dept.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 05:43 PM (u49WF)

609 579 When did sports reporting become total shit? Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 10:28 PM (iQIUe) ------ I stopped following television sports talk around 2007 or so. Besides the politics getting injected everywhere, it finally became apparent to me the people brought forward as experts weren't all that bright. You're not getting any nuanced or deeply thought opinions. You're getting all "hot takes" all the time. Started with Auburn's undefeated season in 2004. USC and Oklahoma were undefeated too, and this was before "If it ain't SEC, it ain't shit" stuff started the way it is now. It was just universally accepted that Auburn was not at the same caliber, and I could not understand why. They were damn good too. Then, a few years later, I noticed guys like Billy Packer and Digger Phelps were pissed off about schools like George Mason (Final Four from an 11 seed) and Bradley (Sweet 16 from a 13 seed) making it in the tournament instead of whoever finished 8th or 9th from the Big 10 or ACC. Then the heat the Packers took for casting their lot with Aaron Rodgers. ESPN talking heads just could not believe that this was even a tough call for Green Bay. It finally clicked. Why the hell do I watch this shit? So, I don't anymore. If there is a game I want to watch on ESPN, I'll watch it, but if I want opinion, I know where I can find it online.

Posted by: Dave S. at July 30, 2015 05:44 PM (mhkbv)

610 Have a Nissan Juke. Great car, no problems. Drove a Versa as a rental, got me where I needed to go. A bit crude though. Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at July 30, 2015 10:40 PM (ucDmr) Who the hell comes up with these names?? And they just threw away "Datsun" which was a perfectly good brand name. I loved my 280Z.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2015 05:45 PM (MYSVz)

611 While it's true that black Christians are infinitely more acceptable than white one, Tebow crossed the line: he made a pro-life ad that ran during a Super Bowl telecast. That kind of sin cannot be forgiven or forgotten. Unlike, say, engaging in dogfighting. The darkness hates any form of light. It might show themselves for who they really are.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 30, 2015 05:45 PM (3edTg)

612 When did sports reporting become total shit?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 10:28 PM (iQIUe)




I blame ESPN. It's the MSNBC of sports

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 05:45 PM (DiZBp)

613 Well actually either a Nissan Versa or a Mazda3.  The Mazda3 looks a little nicer but it is a little older for my price range.

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at July 30, 2015 05:48 PM (4njDw)

614 "Drove a Versa as a rental, got me where I needed to go. A bit crude though." Isn't it funny how a company can turn out one really good product and then, right beside, they can turn out something less than optimal. My pickup is that way. It's 50% really good and 50% "WTF, why would you do that?"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 05:48 PM (C6hcv)

615 There is no ESPN.  Only Zuul!

Posted by: Dana Barrett at July 30, 2015 05:49 PM (+1T7c)

616 Hmmm.

Wonder if we would've been as hostile to Reggie White, the Minister (literally) of Defense, if he wasn't such a dominant player?

Posted by: E!SPN and the rest of the sports media at July 30, 2015 05:49 PM (d+1U8)

617 There is no Zuul.  Only me!

Posted by: Pope Ta-Nehici Coates the First at July 30, 2015 05:50 PM (4njDw)

618 " The Mazda3 looks a little nicer but it is a little older for my price range." Now, I've never heard anything but good about the Mazda 3. Across the board.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 05:51 PM (C6hcv)

619 BLM is trying to extort money from Whole Foods.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 05:51 PM (iQIUe)

620 Okay then, the Mazda 3 is closer to me so I will check that out first, and if I don't like it I will proceed to the Nissan place.

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at July 30, 2015 05:51 PM (4njDw)

621 610: They're Jap names. Who knows where they come up with that shit? PP maybe? I don't know. Wish they would put me in that focus group.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at July 30, 2015 05:51 PM (ucDmr)

622 Posted by: E!SPN and the rest of the sports media at July 30, 2015 10:49 PM (d+1U The media *hates* anything that makes them question their assumptions. Journalists don't generally get into the business to expand their minds, they get into it to close other minds to anything but their own orthodoxy.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 30, 2015 05:52 PM (GDulk)

623 585 My wife got me a present today for our anniversary: A TRS-80. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 30, 2015 08:56 PM (oVJmc) Did you get the expansion keyboard with or without the numerical keypad? And did you get the high-reproduction cassette tape recorder to go with it? And the book of BASIC program games? Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2015 10:31 PM (3pRHP) Wow, that takes me back. Damn I'm getting old.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 30, 2015 05:56 PM (mx5oN)

624 I'm not crazy about any animal that wd eat me. And Cecil wd eat me up!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 05:56 PM (iQIUe)

625 Who the hell comes up with these names??

And they just threw away "Datsun" which was a perfectly good brand name.

I loved my 280Z.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2015 10:45 PM (MYSVz)



I like to know who named a car the Santa Fe. You're driving in the Holy Faith. I'm surprised the left hasn't had a shit fit over that one yet.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 05:56 PM (DiZBp)

626 How come no one talks about that gal who rolled down her window and was dragged out and killed by a lion? #LionsKill!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 05:57 PM (iQIUe)

627 *casts vote* Mazda This assumes all things equal in the context of mileage, history, price, etc.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 05:59 PM (9mTYi)

628 He was a good boy.

Posted by: Zombie Cecil's Neighbors at July 30, 2015 05:59 PM (Dwehj)

629 And they just threw away "Datsun" which was a perfectly good brand name. -------------- They are bringing it back.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 05:59 PM (9mTYi)

630 Cecil was a pussy

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at July 30, 2015 06:00 PM (9mTYi)

631 I like to know who named a car the Santa Fe. You're driving in the Holy Faith. I'm surprised the left hasn't had a shit fit over that one yet. Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2015 10:56 PM (DiZBp) Most leftists think that Santa Fe is Santa Claus' gay brother. .

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2015 06:00 PM (MYSVz)

632 627: Does Mazda still have the Ford lineage, or did that go away?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at July 30, 2015 06:01 PM (ucDmr)

633 Wait, Mazda is a Ford car?

Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at July 30, 2015 06:01 PM (4njDw)

634 Cecil should have come to me for advice.

Posted by: the camouflage cat from last night's ONT at July 30, 2015 06:02 PM (d+1U8)

635 "Who the hell comes up with these names?? " I remember reading years ago that there was almost a Ford "Camry." Car and Driver or Motor Trend had a story about the ad firms that cars were using to devise new names for car models.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 06:02 PM (C6hcv)

636 Mazda and Ford had some joint models. The Probe, and Mazda MX-6, for example.

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at July 30, 2015 06:03 PM (9mTYi)

637 "Wait, Mazda is a Ford car?" They used to have a connection but no longer. At one time Ford had a 30% stake in them but that went away in the '00s.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 06:04 PM (C6hcv)

638 In Ferguson you can now take several swings at a cop and jump on their backs with no repercussions. BlackPrivilege

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 06:04 PM (iQIUe)

639 Who the hell comes up with these names?? And they just threw away "Datsun" which was a perfectly good brand name. I loved my 280Z. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 30, 2015 10:45 PM (MYSVz) **** Remember the B 210? I rest my case.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise[/i] [/b] [/u] [/s] at July 30, 2015 06:04 PM (1eYr7)

640 "Who the hell comes up with these names?? " -------------- Oddly, very well paid consultants. It is rumored that when Mitsubishi farmed out the task of naming the car that they called 'Starion', the California consultants gave them the name 'Stallion'. The rest is history...

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at July 30, 2015 06:05 PM (9mTYi)

641 Evenin' horde. Thread that lasts over 6 hours? Anybody call a physician?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 30, 2015 06:06 PM (XAFOu)

642 B210...? Hell that was a tour de force compared to the F-10

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at July 30, 2015 06:07 PM (9mTYi)

643 Ace got called out by Jared Taylor at AmRen tonite. I'm hoping Ace will fisk the article so we can see exactly which of Taylor's points he agrees with and which he disagrees with.

Posted by: gp at July 30, 2015 06:07 PM (mk9aG)

644 In the 1990's a Ford Ranger and Mazda pickup were the same.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 30, 2015 06:07 PM (vaR50)

645 On the other hand, my 510 was perhaps the best car that I have ever owned, all things considered.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 06:08 PM (9mTYi)

646 AFAIK, the mazda 6 is still built in the FoMoCo plant in Flat Rock, Michigan...I used to have parts on the 6, but that was ten years ago

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 30, 2015 06:08 PM (KCxzN)

647 Alberta could probably recite part-for-part Mazda/Ford.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 06:09 PM (9mTYi)

648 643 Ace got called out by Jared Taylor at AmRen tonite. I'm hoping Ace will fisk the article so we can see exactly which of Taylor's points he agrees with and which he disagrees with. Posted by: gp at July 30, 2015 11:07 PM (mk9aG) Why waste his time?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 30, 2015 06:09 PM (XAFOu)

649 Don't be dissing the Atomic Cockroach.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 30, 2015 06:10 PM (rwI+c)

650 My favorite re-badged auto, is/was the Subaru's, badged as Saabs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 06:10 PM (9mTYi)

651 And the book of BASIC program games? http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/ This site also has ROMs. As in, you can turn your own PC into an emulator - assuming you know jack sh!t about computers, which I assume you do if you've been at this since the Reagan Years.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2015 06:11 PM (AVEe1)

652 Mazda - From Ahura Mazda, the Zoroastrian god. Ford sold their stake in 2008. Datsun - Was first known as DAT Motors, the first letters being the first letters of the last names of the three fouders: Den, Aoyama, Takeuchi. Later became Datson, then Datsun. The name is being used in some markets like India. Toyota Last name of founder. Means 'Bountiful Field'. Honda Ditto. Means 'Main/Trunk Field'.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 30, 2015 06:11 PM (VY8H5)

653 Ace shd ignore Taylor entirely. That little shit here trying to provoke him has to be hear at Taylor's behest.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 06:11 PM (iQIUe)

654 Jared Taylor at AmRen Who at what now?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 30, 2015 06:13 PM (rwI+c)

655 "Nissan to revive Datsun name in emerging markets, eyes increased sales" http://tinyurl.com/ogkp453

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at July 30, 2015 06:14 PM (9mTYi)

656 "AFAIK, the mazda 6 is still built in the FoMoCo plant in Flat Rock, Michigan...I" Per Wiki, it now produces Mustangs and Fusions. Last MX-6 was built there in 1997. Last Mazda 6 in '12.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 06:14 PM (C6hcv)

657 Who the hell comes up with these names?? ************** Savvy salesmen. The same ones who come up with company names like "Agilent," "Exelis," and "Spherion." They make a ton of money. Says a lot about modern-day corporate executives.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 30, 2015 06:15 PM (HHFpd)

658 654 Jared Taylor at AmRen Who at what now? Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 30, 2015 11:13 PM (rwI+c) White supremacist shithead at a shitty site.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 30, 2015 06:15 PM (XAFOu)

659 Jared Taylor?

That the pedo Subway guy?!

Posted by: who the hell is that? at July 30, 2015 06:15 PM (d+1U8)

660 "Nissan to revive Datsun name in emerging markets, eyes increased sales" Now, this is a long way back, but, wasn't Datsun sorta the everyday, working man's brand of the two? Ex-GF's brother would drag a pontoon boat with a 1980s Datsun super cab 4x4 pickup and it did okay.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 06:17 PM (C6hcv)

661 Baltimore Prosecutors Hid Evidence Freddie Gray Tried To Injure Himself During Prior Arrests... http://goo.gl/S9rTMJ

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 30, 2015 06:17 PM (iQIUe)

662 At the site site that ace should waste him time responding to a dumb fuck.... In regards to Nick Searcy adopting a black child... Who cares. When he adopted that black boy he lost his right to be wth us. Fuck you, go away gp.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 30, 2015 06:17 PM (XAFOu)

663 ONT up

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at July 30, 2015 06:17 PM (kHJ3a)

664 His time

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 30, 2015 06:18 PM (XAFOu)

665 "Seven increased by the product of three and a value x is the same as the product of 3 and a value x decreased by seven." As others have noted, this makes no sense. However, if the last phrase was "the product of 3 and a value of seven decreased by x." then the equation can be written: 7 + (3*x) = 3*(7-x) 7 + (3*x) = 21 - 3x 6x = 14 x = 14/6 which is true.

Posted by: bored but stubborn. at July 30, 2015 06:18 PM (H45F0)

666 Poor dead lion. There, I care. Can we move on now? I think we've moved on to harrumphing about commenters mentioning J@red T@yl0r's name in here. The guy who grew up in Japan and runs a website that was 20 years ahead of its time, back in the 1990s. It is very important for certain (other) commenters that they not be seen as a problem. Otherwise Gabe might say something mean.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 30, 2015 06:19 PM (AVEe1)

667 thx, Ricardo back in 2004-ish, Flat Rock was building three different variants of the Mustang & three variants of the 6 in sequence.

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 30, 2015 06:20 PM (KCxzN)

668 There is an ONT.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 30, 2015 06:21 PM (C6hcv)

669 I've had super great luck with Honda. It's always kind of a crap shoot.

Posted by: GBruno at July 30, 2015 06:22 PM (u49WF)

670 To SMFH. Boulder Terlit Hobo interpreted my statement correctly. Most of my native relatives don't live on reservations, but some do and they are really at the bottom of the barrel. They face disrinination and almost perpetual poverty unless they give up their traditions, and yet they are willing to face the poverty because of those traditions. But instead of being treated as Amish who are on terrible land they face all orts of weird and very specific persecutions especially from Federal law enforcement. For example at the tribal leadership's discretion anyone can be turned over to the Federal Prosecutor for any crime. Nothing like sending a 15 year old a thousand miles away for three years for plinking road signs and possession to a juvenile facility that has absolutely no educational programs or any rehabilitation. All because his grandpa pissed off some tribal official by noticing his embezzlement. Back when Obamacare was still a dark cloud on the horizon I tried to tell people about the horror that is the Indian Health Service which is by Treaty law supposed to provide Reservation Indians with health care. Even the most lefty academic types assured me that of course ACA would be better than the IHS, though not as good as single payer... When I asked them if they thoight the Health service should be fixed first the response was that with Obamacare it would be uneccesary, so no need to fix it... Btw Reservation indians are barred from buyimg on the exchange because they are already insured by the IHS

Posted by: RoyL at July 30, 2015 08:40 PM (BsvmU)

671 To buckeye abroad. I was not saying I was persecuted by TNC's dream of a caste system based religion, i doubt it will come to pass outside of Academia and the land of the concerned, and theredays are numbered because the whole thing is so repellant not just to human dignity but economic and technological development . It is also based on taking the productive part of society along with an overwhelming majority of the nation's population and branding them as inherently flawed and evil and telling them to submit to a self appointed priesthood that doesn't even offer salvation. That sort of thing has limited attractions, and while I work in an academic setting it is at an agricultural and engineering institution that has a 60-70% male freshman class, offers no studies major other "child & family" which used to be home ec, and is in a state that considers mormons a vector of liberalism. We do have apretty good American Indian program, but it is in the anthropology department, and it isn't a major. My point is that I was describing the logic of this system of belief and not saying I believed in it. As my Dad who was teaching in Berkeley in 1968 said, all things pass, of course he was later stripped of his department chair at another school for refusing to eliminate the requirement that graduate students in english take classes in old English and read Chaucer, but he was still right, it just may take more than a human lifetime. After all he saw the Soviet Union fall and went from worrying bout actual communists calling for a revolutio of the striking blue collar masses, especially in the mines and rural areas to be joined by industrial workers to usher in a new glorious age where ono river would remain undammmed, to the rise of identity politics where the blue collar masses were declared the enemy of all that was good and decent. And industrial progress was considered a crime. Sure the level of idiocy is constant but the form constantly changes. In a dozen years Ta Nehisi Coates will be an aging bloviator, and in fisty he will be less remembered than Nornan Thomas.

Posted by: RoyL at July 30, 2015 09:09 PM (BsvmU)

672 671 As my Dad who was teaching in Berkeley in 1968 said, all things pass, of course he was later stripped of his department chair at another school for refusing to eliminate the requirement that graduate students in english take classes in old English and read Chaucer, but he was still right, it just may take more than a human lifetime. After all he saw the Soviet Union fall and went from worrying bout actual communists calling for a revolution of the striking blue collar masses, especially in the mines and rural areas to be joined by industrial workers to usher in a new glorious age where ono river would remain undammmed, to the rise of identity politics where the blue collar masses were declared the enemy of all that was good and decent. And industrial progress was considered a crime. Posted by: RoyL at July 31, 2015 02:09 AM (BsvmU) Holy crap. And there are people here who are condemning the American Renaissance website, without even bothering to read it. That paragraph perfectly encapsulates why that site is important. *** In a dozen years Ta Nehisi Coates will be an aging bloviator, and in fisty he will be less remembered than Nornan Thomas. My fear is that he or people like him will end up writing history.

Posted by: rickl at July 30, 2015 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

673 Noah's Ark works. 1. Its freaking huge. Not at all like the thing that floated in your bathtub when you were four.8b 2. Average size of an animal is a chicken. 3. There are only 20,000 Kinds. You don't need Wolf, Dachsund, Doberman, Coyote, Fox...you just need two young adult wolves. Same with the Big Cats, and a ton of other 'species' which are often only different because of slightly different feathers. Same with the Horse Kind...no need for Zebra, Pony, Eohippus, Clydesdale, and Morgan....just one young adult pair of proto-Horse. Plenty of space. The Bible is not a science textbook, but where it deals with Science or History, its accurate. And if you don't like that because bigotry, then you open the door for Ta-Nehism, or some other form of silliness.

Posted by: Eric Ashley at July 30, 2015 09:49 PM (LKVOg)

674 Um... actually it's totally valid to ask how Noah got all the animals on the ark. Feel free to ask Ken Ham. Real Christianity does not require you to check your brain at the door.

Posted by: Randall Richards at July 31, 2015 08:19 AM (gvNA4)

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