August 31, 2011

George H.W. Bush (41) Promised A Big Speech on Turning The Economy Around, Too
— Ace

Good piece on the danger of raising expectations.

The current squabble over the timing will elevate this speech's importance.

Can Obama rise to that challenge?

Um... does he usually rise to challenges?

On the surface, it might appear to be a good political strategy: gear up the public for a big announcement down the road and maximize attention to it. But in practice, the strategy is fraught with dangers, as the elder Bush found to his regret.

In the period between when Bush said he would unveil a plan and the actual rollout, public expectations for a magic solution skyrocketed to heights that no plan could have reached. After all, if there was some sure-fire cure for the nation’s economic ills, wouldn’t it have been tried by then?

Nonetheless, White House aides and strategists hyped the speech. They leaked hints of what might be coming and floated trial balloons in the news media to see how they might be received. Bush’s Democratic opponents gained tons of media attention criticizing the mythical plan from every angle, even though nothing had been officially proposed.

Inevitably, Bush lost control of the narrative to his critics. So when the much-ballyhooed speech was finally delivered, it crashed of its own weight. Obama could be facing a similar fate.

Here is what James Gerstenzang wrote in the Los Angeles Times on the eve of the 1992 Bush speech. Substitute Obama’s name for Bush’s and you have a textbook case of history repeating itself.

Now, the media will not be raising expectations here; instead, they will be emphasizing the difficulties Obama faces, and therefore lowering expectations as regards his abilities to overcome those difficulties.

Still, Obama is making this speech more prominent than it otherwise would have been.

George H.W. Bush proposed a mix of standard, unexciting, smaller-bore proposals to help spur the economy. They were greeted with yawns.

Obama is similarly hamstrung. He claims he wants to promote "bipartisan" solutions both parties can agree on, but the only stimulus the GOP would consider is a tax cut. Obama might propose another round of sending $400 checks to every citizen (as has happened before); but that seems desperate, and that also further worsens the debt problem.

So he can go small and bipartisan, which would wind up being greeted with indifference, or go big and liberal, which I think would be rejected outright. I don't think the public years for even more of what ails them.

He could try for that business payroll tax holiday I discussed two years ago, but paid for by what? He'd have to agree to cuts to domestic spending and entitlements (to take place, say, four years out) and he won't agree to that.

Swiped from Mickey Kaus.

Posted by: Ace at 02:13 PM | Comments (216)
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1 "Let me be clear!"

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:14 PM (niZvt)

2 Can Obama rise to that challenge? Bob Dole thinks if Bob Dole can rise to the challenge, Obama can rise to the challenge. Given strong enough pharmaceuticals.

Posted by: Bob Dole at August 31, 2011 02:15 PM (niZvt)

3 AS a run up to his Jobs Speech, Obama's EPA just announced new regulations that will cost American industry a trillion dollars a YEAR. What BETTER way to Stimulate the Economy, after all??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:16 PM (niZvt)

4 Ask the CEO of Gibson Guitars about Obama's plan to create jobs

Posted by: Jones plays a Gibson Hummingbird at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (8sCoq)

5 Inevitably, Bush lost control of the narrative to his critics. So when the much-ballyhooed speech was finally delivered, it crashed of its own weight. Obama could be facing a similar fate.

Are they kidding?  With the Media scrambling over themselves to laud Obama's every single bowel movement as "historic," as opposed to their sheer loathing of anything Republican?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (i0App)

6 My prediction is, Obama the classic Radical Leftist is simply incapable of moderating his views in any way whatsoever, and too stubborn to admit his views don't work. Look for him to propose trillions in new spending, blame the current mess on Bush, and pre-blame the demise of his plans on the Tea Party.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (niZvt)

7 I think Ace should add </blockquote> to his post.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (Qxe/p)

8 Stop talking about my hooters.

Posted by: Perky Pam Geller at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (fj/P0)

9 Any mention of the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (sNZSg)

10 Can I quote you on that?

Oh, and Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (8y9MW)

11 BO's jobs plan:  Stop deportations and more regulations.  Maybe Fast and Furious was supposed to create some jobs. 

Posted by: Aunty Entity at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (FU3yL)

12 What does Little Green Jugs think about Obama's speech??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (niZvt)

13 Obama is clueless. He has to be the dumbest genius ever. Makes me wonder just what those unreleased transcripts really show.

Marginal intelligence, no experience, a failed Presidency and a screwed USA. Thanks 52%ers. F'n idiots.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (eU8ml)

14 hey- it's a blog of color now

Posted by: Jones at August 31, 2011 02:20 PM (8sCoq)

15 14 hey- it's a blog of color now

HaHa!  funny. 

Posted by: Aunty Entity at August 31, 2011 02:21 PM (FU3yL)

16 and now it's back to being a Typical White Blog

Posted by: Jones at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (8sCoq)

17 Oh oh, looks like AoSHQ just became a Vanilla blog again, instead of a Chocolate blog...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (niZvt)

18 I'm waitinf for a repeat of this ...

5/24/2004 9:21:28 AM ET 2004-05-24T13:21:28

LOS ANGELES — The broadcast networks are not expected to carry President Bush’s primetime speech Monday night, in which he will lay out a “clear strategy” for the future of Iraq.

Posted by: James Loughner at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (e8kgV)

19 Makes me wonder just what those unreleased transcripts really show.

I think somebody with name recognition should start claiming that his/her inside sources claim Obama was all D's and incompletes.
GPA was 1.6.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (Qxe/p)

20 Thanks Ace!

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (Qxe/p)

21 Face it, if the speech is next Thursday, more people would rather see the Saints kick the Packer's ass that listen to that stuttering clusterfuck and his wide world of cliche's.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (eU8ml)

22

Obama *spit upon his mention* will likely deliver a speech. Big Whoop. No actual plan, with numbers and proposed legislation and stuff like that.

And this is accurate: Look for him to propose trillions in new spending, blame the current mess on Bush, and pre-blame the demise of his plans on the Tea Party.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 07:18 PM (niZvt)

Posted by: 141Driver at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (/E3ql)

23 LOS ANGELES — The broadcast networks are not expected to carry President Bush’s primetime speech Monday night, in which he will lay out a “clear strategy” for the future of Iraq. Posted by: James Loughner at August 31, 2011 07:22 PM (e8kgV) THAT will NEVER happen so long as Obama is President. As Election Day draws nearer and nearer, we can expecting the level of fawning to reach levels that would make a cheap whore blush.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (niZvt)

24

I would like to announce a new Regulatory Agency, the Federal Jobs Council, who will be in charge of creating regulations to create jobs.

As the first step to fixing any problem, is to define the problem, they will start by forcing every employer, employee, including the self employed contractors, and every Unemployed person, to fill in forms which will help complete a database of how many jobs are actualy saved and created.

This database will also house data on every job created, what it does, what it pays, and how it impacts Interstate Commerce... thus allowing us to create regulations which will make the Richest amongst us, create more jobs.

I know my detractors, many in the Congress, will call this a move towards Socialism... but it is not, it is simply leveraging Computing power to help solve a problem.

Posted by: President Barrak Obama at August 31, 2011 02:24 PM (NtXW4)

25 jwb, I ran with the theme that Palin had better grades than Obama. It provoked some epic frothing from some liberals I know.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 02:24 PM (eU8ml)

26 The Washington Post panned it as “A Lollipop Budget.”

LOL

Posted by: James Loughner at August 31, 2011 02:24 PM (e8kgV)

27 I can't wait to hear Waters' and Carson's response to Allen West's letter to them this week:

“As Chairman of the CBC, I believe it is incumbent on you to both condemn these types of hate-filled comments, and to disassociate the Congressional Black Caucus from these types of remarks. Otherwise, I will have to seriously reconsider my membership within the organization,” West wrote.
Man, Mr. West is kind of my hero the way he's taking on Congressional D's. 

Posted by: Aunty Entity at August 31, 2011 02:25 PM (FU3yL)

28 I ahevsomething vital to say about helping the recovery....this sandtrap is a bitch....now watch this drive!"


// Tiger Soetoro

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:25 PM (AEIYh)

29 I think somebody with name recognition should start claiming that his/her inside sources claim Obama was all D's and incompletes. GPA was 1.6. Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 07:22 PM (Qxe/p) Election Day 2008: Seven Years of College Finally Pay Off!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:25 PM (niZvt)

30 Hell ...... we all KNOW whats going to be in the speech..... 1. Inherited mess. 2. Tax the rich 3. Stuff beyond my control. 4. Coprorate jet owners. 5. Another round of spending. 6. Republicans blockin my stuff. 7. I killed Osama.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2011 02:25 PM (ffV1/)

31 4 Jones,

oh don't worry once he doesn't have to worry about another election Barry has plans for all GOP business.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (AEIYh)

32 jwb, I ran with the theme that Palin had better grades than Obama. It provoked some epic frothing from some liberals I know.

DUDE.  No wonder I voted for you!

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (Qxe/p)

33 4 Ask the CEO of Gibson Guitars about Obama's plan to create jobs

Posted by: Jones plays a Gibson Hummingbird at August 31, 2011 07:18 PM (8sCoq)

 

^^ This

Posted by: CanaDave plays a Gibson Les Paul Custom at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (UlfCH)

34 Shout out to Vic: Whatever you're doing at this exact instant Vic, I hope all is well!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (niZvt)

35 25 jwb, I ran with the theme that Palin had better grades than Obama. It provoked some epic frothing from some liberals I know.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 07:24 PM (eU8ml)

If the MFM ever get Obama cock of of their mouths, they could tell us if this is true of not.

Posted by: James Loughner at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (e8kgV)

36 Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 07:23 PM (niZvt)

I thought it already did, once.  Back during the run up to the rape of a nation called ObamaCare, if I'm recalling correctly.  Some of the "news" stations (CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc.) carried the speech, but the major networks kept to their regular programming.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 02:27 PM (8y9MW)

37 All I know is that the House should bill Obama for this campaine speech of his.

Posted by: Tantorus Maximus at August 31, 2011 02:27 PM (eWQpH)

38 3 CoolCzech,

that represents 1/14th to 1/21th of our entire economy....

that is some fucking brilliance right there bud...

I'm telling you the first republican who looks that EPA monster in the eye and says "enough" wins

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:27 PM (AEIYh)

39 Obama can: 1. Issue blanket Obamacare waivers without Congressional approval 2. Order Cass to rescind 100 regulation a day 3. Threaten to resign or not seek re-election if economy does not improve.

Posted by: Jean at August 31, 2011 02:28 PM (UIE9v)

40 25 Dick Nixon,

tell 'em we've seen hers

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:28 PM (AEIYh)

41
It's already being referred to by the media as Obama's "Important Jobs Speech."

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (N0SJE)

42 Dennis Miller for President.  Wiz has got the lingo down - fo sho.

http://tinyurl.com/42nkq44

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (jx2j9)

43 39 Obama can: 1. Issue blanket Obamacare waivers without Congressional approval 2. Order Cass to rescind 100 regulation a day 3. Threaten to resign or not seek re-election if economy does not improve. Posted by: Jean at August 31, 2011 07:28 PM (UIE9v) Barney Frank can threaten to fart!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (niZvt)

44 Wouldn't be prudent.

May there never be another Bush president.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (dZ756)

45 If we're singing the praises of Gibson, the best guitar I own is an Epiphone G-100.

(Yeah, I'm not a very good guitarist.)

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (bjRNS)

46 "3. Threaten to resign or not seek re-election if economy does not improve."

He doesn't have the balls to say this on national tv or in private to a Clinton supporter.


Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (eU8ml)

47 I think Gay Superman, in the sidebar, is coming on to me.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (fj/P0)

48 It's sept! Time for my annual I've got a jobs idea sPeech!

Posted by: Phoenixgirl at August 31, 2011 02:30 PM (zz3Bw)

49 Obama could fix the economy with two words.  "I resign."

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2011 02:30 PM (TXKVh)

50 I had a wonderful plan, ladies and gentlemen.  A plan that would take this nation to new heights of prosperity......but then came that damn hurricane Irene.  And, of course, that absolutely devastating earthquake that hit the northeast. 

Posted by: Dick Hussien Obama at August 31, 2011 02:30 PM (k0vGp)

51 I wonder if he's going to wear his new clothes made out of that special material.......

Posted by: Phoenixgirl at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (zz3Bw)

52 45 If we're singing the praises of Gibson, the best guitar I own is an Epiphone G-100.

(Yeah, I'm not a very good guitarist.)

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 31, 2011 07:29 PM (bjRNS)

 

Gotta start someplace

Posted by: CanaDave plays a Gibson Les Paul Custom at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (UlfCH)

53 I think Gay Superman, in the sidebar, is coming on to me.

He's coming on to all of us. He's just that Super.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (bjRNS)

54 Read my lips: know new taxes.

Posted by: pick a politician. at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (fnxKl)

55
Keep in mind this.

Obama's speech is no different from what Maxine Waters was doing last week.
That is, identifying the "real enemy."

Congress is the real enemy. Congress is the reason why you don't have a job.


Posted by: Soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (N0SJE)

56 Drudge has a link to an article titled 'Housewives of Beverly Hills' will air next week -- and with suicide prevention alerts'

That should apply to any televised Obama speech, as well.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (Qxe/p)

57

May there never be another Bush president.

 

how about a president with a

 

nahh too easy

Posted by: Jones at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (8sCoq)

58 The only thing he could do is decrease the size and scope of government.

And that ain't happening.

Obama's proving, though, just how much government regulation wastes in tax money and how much it stifles in economic activity.

Posted by: nickless at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (MMC8r)

59 41 Soothsayer,

so it'll be a lot different thqn the other job pivot speeches right?

He's gone Hayek from keynes?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (AEIYh)

60
No, sven; this time it's really really really important.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (N0SJE)

61 Gotta start someplace.

Thanks.

My big problem is that I alternate between feast and famine on practicing; I'm in one of the famine times, which makes me sad.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (bjRNS)

62
What you don't understand is that Obama has a vision.

Chris Matthews gets it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (N0SJE)

63 I get the feeling that Obama's "plan" will sound something like: "I am calling on business owners to start hiring. And, umm... Green jobs. Infrastructure something. Thank you." And in conclusion, fuck Mickey Kaus.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff is in BEAST MODE at August 31, 2011 02:35 PM (XE2Oo)

64
This is the guy who said we had to eat peas and then he goes on a million dollar vacation.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:35 PM (N0SJE)

65 My big problem is that I alternate between feast and famine on practicing; I'm in one of the famine times, which makes me sad.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 31, 2011 07:34 PM (bjRNS)

 

That's the way it goes...I drop it for years at a time...been playing since I was 15...45 now...

Posted by: CanaDave plays a Gibson Les Paul Custom at August 31, 2011 02:36 PM (UlfCH)

66

He could try for that business payroll tax holiday I discussed two years ago, but paid for by what? He'd have to agree to cuts to domestic spending and entitlements (to take place, say, four years out) and he won't agree to that.

--You do realize that the payroll tax was cut for this year, don't you?  And that now the GOP doesn't want to extend it further?

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 02:37 PM (YwDKF)

67 60 soothsayer,

"er uh there are those here today that would prevent me from paying you 50,000 dollars for doing nothing....now I have to pay you and Snooki in imaginarium ingots...er uh that ok?'

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:37 PM (AEIYh)

68 I wonder if he's going to wear his new clothes made out of that special material....... Posted by: Phoenixgirl

You mean the invisible ones?

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 31, 2011 02:37 PM (Z75XC)

69  So is Superman's suit made or Earth or did he bring it with him?  If it's made on Earth it would probably tear when he did Super stuff.  If he brought it with him I think it's strange that his dad,  or whoever,  would know what size to get.  Even his Superjunk seems to fit right in there.  All snug. Cozy.  Can't stop looking... it's mesmerizing...

Shit.  I'm gay.

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2011 02:37 PM (TXKVh)

70 "Some say America's best days are behind her, but I say we all get behind her best days to come."

Posted by: Max Power at August 31, 2011 02:38 PM (q177U)

71

Still, Obama is making this speech more prominent than it otherwise would have been.

It can't be because Obama's shit is already weak.

He's done.

Posted by: ErikW at August 31, 2011 02:38 PM (Z5uxZ)

72 64 soothsayer,

who let his wife run up 4 times his salary in vacacay expenses.....rust me if we go viral painting his hypocrisy he's done

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:38 PM (AEIYh)

73 72....

sorry 25  times his salary

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:39 PM (AEIYh)

74 Obama supporters show their support

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/28034785/index.html

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 31, 2011 02:40 PM (UqKQV)

75 Shit.  I'm gay.

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2011 07:37 PM (TXKVh)

 

Spoiler Alert sounds crazy but the rumor about his suit is going around:

It morphs out of his belt buckle like some kind second skin. You can't see the buckle in that pick but its there in the close up.

Posted by: Max Power at August 31, 2011 02:40 PM (q177U)

76 May there never be another Bush president in an elected office.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 31, 2011 07:29 PM (dZ756)


Mo better.


Posted by: Barbarian at August 31, 2011 02:41 PM (EL+OC)

77 He could try for that business payroll tax holiday I discussed two years ago, but paid for by what? He'd have to agree to cuts to domestic spending and entitlements (to take place, say, four years out) and he won't agree to that.

Can you clarify this sentence, Ace? Are you saying that tax cuts need to be paid for?

Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 31, 2011 02:41 PM (YxBuk)

78 OK, they got me.  Obama is the smartest man on the planet.  Emulating GHW Bush is definitely winning!

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (5H6zj)

79
brb, pullin the economy from the brink

Posted by: lolobama at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (N0SJE)

80 Shit.  I'm gay.

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2011 07:37 PM (TXKVh)

Me too

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (UqKQV)

81 So how long into this petty speech to step all over his opponents will it be before Sparky blames "some people who'd rather play politics then make tough choices"?

Posted by: mugiwara at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (KI/Ch)

82  What you don't understand is that Obama has a vision.

Chris Matthews gets it.
Posted by: Soothsayer

"The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams. This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called "Max". To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time. When the world was powered by the black fuel. And the desert sprouted great cities of pipe and steel. Gone now, swept away. For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all. Without fuel, they were nothing. They built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped. Their leaders talked and talked and talked. But nothing could stem the avalanche. Their world crumbled. The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear."

You mean that vision?

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (TXKVh)

83 sven Barry could give a shit about what his vacations cost. He has people like me and you paying for him to sit on his ass while the country goes to hell with him at the wheel.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 02:43 PM (eU8ml)

84 Inevitably, Bush lost control of the narrative to his critics.

Political-groupie myopia can make "the narrative" seem like a more detailed work than it really is. No one out here in real life experienced the "economic speech hype unfulfilled" part of the Bush "narrative" in '91 (he was always understood to be ineffectual, whether he was or not), and no one will see Obama's remake of it now.

I mean, you've seen The Obama Show. What's its "narrative?" What's the story of why him and why not that other guy?

It's not a story about economics, is it? It's about the incarnation of authority: in a nonthreateningly-not-really-black-guy-from-The-Future-as-seen-on-TV vs. in some cracka. Obama—the phenomenon—is single-issue, and his story has no sub-plots.

For example, Perry's suddenly looking like a fair competitor to the O throne now, so what's the "narrative" he's being given? Universally?

"This guy's a fuckin' _______!"

Mm-hmm.

Posted by: oblig. at August 31, 2011 02:43 PM (xvZW9)

85 "I remember The Road Warrior."

That sounded awesome as hell in the theater when the movie came out.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (eU8ml)

86 77 Rum High functioning Sociopath,
well using the current media driven economic memes and he Barry standard why yes, yes they do

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (AEIYh)

87 Jon Huntsman unveiled a jobs plan Wednesday that would begin with a dramatic overhaul of the US tax code. Huntsman is a thousand times better than Bambi.

Posted by: Huntsman at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (90TGT)

88 Is this the speech about the plan Obama said he'd have a year ago? Just askin.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (bxiXv)

89
Miramax Studios present...

the remake of an American classic...

Barack Hussein Obama stars in...

A P O C O L Y P S E   N O W

Like, right now.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (N0SJE)

90 Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 07:44 PM (AEIYh)

I just wanted to make sure that's what Ace meant, not that he really believes tax cuts need to be paid for. That's one of the lefty memes I really, really hate.

Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (YxBuk)

91

Hey, can't find a link but I heard on Mark Levin (bleck) that Obamma was going to KEEP the Wednesday time and deliver speech from Oval office.

How cool is that? Affirmative Mittens is going head to head with the republican debate.

Posted by: Max Power at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (q177U)

92 Yeah, but the economy really did turn around at the end of Bush1's term..not in time to help him, but there was a recovery. I am not so sure we will be that lucky this time. Not with Obama calling the shots.

Posted by: Terrye at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (f8jKx)

93 You'll know what Obama's internal polling says if he says we can't go back to the failed policies of the previous Administration. That is the code word for Perry.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (eU8ml)

94 83 Dick Nixon,

oh believe me I know...

I am not talking about him....it is going to be pretty hard for Captain Arugula of the USS EPA shilling 4 buck a gallon gas as "almost high enough" to go pied piper on the retarded 20 somethings again....

if Perry starts hammering Bury as having let EPA go out of control he's done

Perry'll win the coal miners

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (AEIYh)

95 Don't like this plan?  I'll have a new one next week!

Posted by: Obama, a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure Ebook at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (MMC8r)

96 Rise to the challenge? This ass clown can't rise before 10:00am to get the presidential daily briefing.

Posted by: Spiker at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (tcQsM)

97 Let me be clear.

Read my (purple) lips...


Posted by: SCoaMF at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (Hr86t)

98 90 Rum Sith Lass,

I know...you've seen me post my thoughts on econ enough to know I think it is shit as well....

it is OUR money not theirs

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (AEIYh)

99 24 This database will also house data on every job created, what it does, what it pays, and how it impacts Interstate Commerce... thus allowing us to create regulations which will make the Richest amongst us, create more jobs.
I know my detractors, many in the Congress, will call this a move towards Socialism... but it is not, it is simply leveraging Computing power to help solve a problem.
Posted by: President Barrak Obama at August 31, 2011 07:24 PM (NtXW4)

We are soooooo on board for this!

Posted by: IBM, Building a Farter, er, Smarter Planet at August 31, 2011 02:48 PM (Wqfrr)

100 well maybe he ought to start leading by making sure his own side follows his civility rules.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:48 PM (k1rwm)

101 OT, but has anyone heard that Mayor Michael Blooming-idiot won't allow clergy to participate at the 9/11 Tenth Anniversary Memorial in New York? I really shake my head and wonder just what country I'm living in, sometimes. Ever since Obama was elected, the Left has felt so free to drop all pretense all viciously attack all aspects of Christian religion in this county.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 02:48 PM (niZvt)

102 Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 07:44 PM (AEIYh)

I just wanted to make sure that's what Ace meant, not that he really believes tax cuts need to be paid for. That's one of the lefty memes I really, really hate.

Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 31, 2011 07:45 PM (YxBuk)

--Let's pay for it by chopping defense in half and taking away unvested pension and any continuing health care benefits for anyone in the military who doesn't retire by year-end.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 02:49 PM (YwDKF)

103 93 Dick Nixon,

I don't think so....he kept on going on about "not really wanting to run against Huntsman"....I think he thinks it is self-evident

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:49 PM (AEIYh)

104
Obama on the economy.

Let's say...Obama is a dentist.

No wait. Let's say Obama is hired by a dentist to manage the practice.

You walk in with a bad toothache. Obama says, "We'll fix you right up." You leave the office without a single tooth in your head and a bill for a million dollars."

Your toothache, however, is gone.


Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:49 PM (N0SJE)

105 102 Jim,

or we can tell your UAW buddies to go fuck themselves and pay for their own fucking pensions from their wrecked car company m'kay

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:49 PM (AEIYh)

106 101 OT, but has anyone heard that Mayor Michael Blooming-idiot won't allow clergy to participate at the 9/11 Tenth Anniversary Memorial in New York?

No, but Michael Blooming-Idiot is the type to do shit like that.

Clergy aren't allowed, but are Imams going to be permitted? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 02:50 PM (c0A3e)

107 Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 07:48 PM (niZvt)

He left out FDNY and NYPD too.

Hmmm who did he invite?

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:50 PM (k1rwm)

108 Reading this blog makes me want to drink.  Thank heavens I don't believe there's any shame in being a raging alcoholic.*

*a protected class under the ADA

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 31, 2011 02:50 PM (ZtwUX)

109 Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 07:49 PM (YwDKF)

You failed math in school, didn't you?

Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 31, 2011 02:51 PM (YxBuk)

110 108,

be sure to apply for a job as a trucker

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:51 PM (AEIYh)

111 41
It's already being referred to by the media as Obama's "Important Jobs Speech."
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 31, 2011 07:29 PM (N0SJE)

Shut up, that's why! Do what I say! Keeping my job is important!

Posted by: SCoaMF, Preznint de Luxe at August 31, 2011 02:52 PM (Wqfrr)

112 101 OT, but has anyone heard that Mayor Michael Blooming-idiot won't allow clergy to participate at the 9/11 Tenth Anniversary Memorial in New York?

A linky - No clergy at 9/11 ceremony called 'bigotry'

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 02:52 PM (c0A3e)

113 Paying for tax cuts...... Thats like a retail accountant demanding that Staples find ways to offset costs because it put toner ink on sale. psssst..... let you in on a secret..... You actually make more money when shits on sale.....

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (ffV1/)

114 Obama: "Bumpty-bump! Ci-a-bo-la! Bumpty-bump!" Jeff: "Hey Barry - why didja torch Old Lady Semple's country?"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff is in BEAST MODE at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (XE2Oo)

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (k1rwm)

116 Obama's biggest challenge: Working bin Laden into a speech on the economy/jobs.

Posted by: Spiker at August 31, 2011 02:54 PM (tcQsM)

117   105 102 Jim,

or we can tell your UAW buddies to go fuck themselves and pay for their own fucking pensions from their wrecked car company m'kay

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 07:49 PM (AEIYh)

--Any payments made to the UAW were a one-time thing, not continuing payments I'm forced to make from my continuing taxes...

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 02:54 PM (YwDKF)

118 109 Rum,

he failed math forever....the Post office pension plan is more costly than DoD's as is the Civil Service plan and none of them hold a candle to the judicial or congressional plans pound for pound....

know how to spot a libtard?

they kill babies and try to fuck old soldiers every time

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:54 PM (AEIYh)

119 Wait, is this the Jim who called the SEAL families, the families who were upset at Obama for not honoring their wishes, "dickheads"?

Be gone then!

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 02:54 PM (c0A3e)

120 I feel pretty certain that Obama's transcripts, when finally released, will show that he made straight A's in all his courses.  Giving him a B or below would be evidence of racism, after all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 31, 2011 02:54 PM (i0App)

121 117 Jim,

larf

if you think we're off the UAW hook I have swampland for you.....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:54 PM (AEIYh)

122 Some people believe that we should deal with the unemployment situation by imprisoning the jobless in forced labor camps subsiding off of stale bread and water.

Others believe that taxes should be tripled and companies be forced to hire more people under the threat of torture and execution.

My proposal takes a middle ground...

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2011 02:54 PM (SY2Kh)

123 119 kratos,

yes yes it is....

Jim is pretty pissed off that barack O'bama would need Empire State building sized boots to kiss a Seal's ass

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:55 PM (AEIYh)

124 As long as the half cracker pencil dick keeps me in lobster, I don't give a shit what he proposes.  We be set for life.

Posted by: Michelle at August 31, 2011 02:55 PM (ZdooO)

125   119 Wait, is this the Jim who called the SEAL families, the families who were upset at Obama for not honoring their wishes, "dickheads"?

Be gone then!

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 07:54 PM (c0A3e)

--The one and the same.  And I still feel the same way.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (YwDKF)

126 125 Jim,

and we feel the same towards you Jimbo

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (AEIYh)

127 Bush’s Democratic opponents gained tons of media attention criticizing the mythical plan Yeah, I don't see that happening this time.

Posted by: Brendan at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (2jQGY)

128 Some people believe that we should deal with the unemployment situation by imprisoning the jobless in forced labor camps subsiding off of stale bread and water.

Others believe that taxes should be tripled and companies be forced to hire more people under the threat of torture and execution.

My proposal takes a middle ground...

A "balanced approach", so to speak?

Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (nRTou)

129 115 link
________

Link to what, dammit? You can't just hang a link out there and expect people to click it! That's the moron equivalent of "pull my finger"!

Not gonna click it. Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (xGZ+b)

130 "And I still feel the same way."

Because you are a unAmerican prick. How does it feel to be a POS?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (eU8ml)

131
speaking of Staples...

Do you remember back in early 2009 Obama had a show-meeting with his new cabinet heads to discuss deficit reduction?

Remember this?

Napolitano piped up and said she could save millions in her DHS department by buying office supplies in bulk.

True story.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (aBiG3)

132 Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 07:54 PM (AEIYh)

I completely agree with getting rid of waste in the military. It's a gov't program and it's not immune from bureaucracy as we all know.

However, I'd kill every fucking entitlement program before I'd get to the military. (Yes, liberals, I'm a heartless bitch. Hence, sociopath. Bite me.) Never gonna happen, but a girl can dream.

Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (YxBuk)

133 Link link link link Spambot does not read what it links, thus can not describe where the link goes to.

Posted by: Kurious at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (qZD43)

134 91
How cool is that? Affirmative Mittens is going head to head with the republican debate.
Posted by: Max Power at August 31, 2011 07:46 PM (q177U)

May G*d forgive me for even hinting at this, but could you imagine a Presidential "debate" between those two?

Affirmative Mittens: Let me be clear: flop. Flop, flop ... flop, flop flop!
Mittens: I beg to disagree: flip! Flip, flip, flip ... flip!

( * lather, rinse, repeat * )

Posted by: No Whining at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (Wqfrr)

135 131 soothsayer,

SMARTPOWER!

the adults are in charge now etc etc etc


ask Jimbo why the civillian side of the donkey bobsled course when asked by King Putt "how deep can you trim" answered 800 million dollars and then king Putt said to DoD....you heard them now find me 140 billion mortal!

to DoD

Jimbo in case you lost track they're your wars now bud

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (AEIYh)

136 A "balanced approach", so to speak?

A bold balanced approach.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (SY2Kh)

137 112 101 OT, but has anyone heard that Mayor Michael Blooming-idiot won't allow clergy to participate at the 9/11 Tenth Anniversary Memorial in New York?

A linky - No clergy at 9/11 ceremony called 'bigotry'

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 07:52 PM (c0A3e)

Yup we've heard.  You would think that New Yorkers, who are the only ones that were affected by 9/11 and are the only people in the country that remember it would be really pissed off at the lack of respect their mayor is showing towards a remembrance.  I think I would be planning protests outside his offices and residence because of this bullshit.  But then again I don't live in New York so I guess 9/11 didn't have an effect on me so I can't have an opinion on that.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (GULKT)

138 Read my lips, no new asses.

Posted by: Traci Lords Bush at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (WCm02)

139 Levin is saying something about Obama making a speech tonight?  Said he can't confirm it, but he's heard it.

Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (nRTou)

140 Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 07:59 PM (GULKT)

It's because you're a selfish bitch, buzzion.

Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (YxBuk)

141 Not only is he THAT Jim, he's the Jim that lies about having a Navy SEAL brother-in-law. This pickle-smoocher is like the male version of curious. Fucking pathological liar.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff is in BEAST MODE at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (vzFJV)

142 132 Rum,

oh believe me I know there is plenty of fraud waste and abuse in DoD....

google the allowance a General officer's spouse is given to redecorate "historic homes"....

yeah a lot to trim.....

I'd start with the TCS instead of PCS orderr abuse and move on from there

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (AEIYh)

143 Maybe Fast and Furious was supposed to create some jobs. 
Posted by: Aunty Entity

It did...for cemeteries...in Mexico.

Posted by: mpfs,TPT at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (3TjSM)

144 110 108,

be sure to apply for a job as a trucker

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 07:51 PM (AEIYh)

Ha ha!  My father was a trucker.  When I asked him if he would please teach me to drive truck, too, he shifted into stupid-truck-driver-drawl and said, "Nah, it'll scramble up your insides and you won't be able to have any babies."

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 31, 2011 03:01 PM (ZtwUX)

145

Wait, is this the Jim who called the SEAL families, the families who were upset at Obama for not honoring their wishes, "dickheads"?

He ... what????

Everytime I think people can't sink any lower, I'm reminded anew of the depths that are possible.

On the upside, this kind of sputtering insanity is a sure sign that Obama's acolytes are scared. Cold sweat, pit in the gut, knee shaking, heart racing terrified.

And that part makes me smile.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 03:01 PM (/lKQw)

146

 

I called it.

 

Obama will go ahead and make his speech the night of the Republican debate, just from the oval office.

 

And we can expect some snark from him about how he tried to get an audience with congress,  but "some are still more worried about what helps their party, than what helps the country."

 

That's why Boehner and the Repubs need to be hammering Obama on this charade of a request for a joint session.

 

Nail him.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 03:01 PM (HPcQF)

147 But then again I don't live in New York so I guess 9/11 didn't have an effect on me so I can't have an opinion on that.

How selfish of you!  Don't you realize that NYC is the center of the universe? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (c0A3e)

148 That's the way it goes...I drop it for years at a time

Years, really? If I drop it for a month it takes me forever to get back to my usual half-assed plateau again.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (vG00k)

149 My pastor will be speaking in Cleveland on 9/11. And I guarantee he will make some people mad.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (MyByM)

150 I can't determine if Jim is paying his fair share of taxes or not!11!!1!!!

Posted by: Warren Buffet at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (le5qc)

151 Just got back from going out for dinner at the Greek joint.  Yummy.

On the way there had NPR on, the sonorous voices doing Evening Edition, and they were about to do their story on the Gibson Guitar thing.  Did not get to listen, as we were arriving.

What was the story as played by NPR?  I'm guessing they did not say a word about Martin, but layed it out as if Gibson was raping the rain forests or something, and subsidizing slave labor.  Not. One. Word. About. the. Dirty. Politics.

That's my guess, and I'm sticking with it.

Posted by: Barry, your Law Review editor at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (4sQwu)

152

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 08:01 PM (/lKQw)

There are odious people amongst us.

149 My pastor will be speaking in Cleveland on 9/11. And I guarantee he will make some people mad

Good for him!  Never forget, never forgive! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 03:05 PM (c0A3e)

153 131
Remember this?
Napolitano piped up and said she could save millions in her DHS department by buying office supplies in bulk.
True story.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 07:57 PM (aBiG3)

Yeah, I remember. But as I recall, it was millions saved over a five year period. Another "head, meet desk" moment ...

Posted by: No Whining at August 31, 2011 03:05 PM (Wqfrr)

154 Not gonna click it. Wouldn't be prudent.

A wise choice, given that fuckstick's penchant for linking gay porn.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:05 PM (vG00k)

155 Shutup, wingnuts, Dick Morris is speaking.

Posted by: cherry pi at August 31, 2011 03:05 PM (OhYCU)

156 118 109 Rum,

he failed math forever....the Post office pension plan is more costly than DoD's as is the Civil Service plan and none of them hold a candle to the judicial or congressional plans pound for pound....

know how to spot a libtard?

they kill babies and try to fuck old soldiers every time

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 07:54 PM (AEIYh)

--Have you read the Budget? 

The Veterans Affairs area has $140 billion in it for healthcare/income security/rehabilitation costs for Veterans. That's on top of roughly $770 billion for defense.

Veterans 141.4

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 03:06 PM (YwDKF)

157

 

So what, does Janet stroll the aisles of Sam's Club on the weekend stocking up on office supplies?

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 03:06 PM (HPcQF)

158 fucking Krauthammer going full 'tard on asking the GOp to keep doing the supplicant butt thrust for Barry.....

dude the furor over jobs is about jobs not speechifying on jobs...unless Bury has changed his spots it is just "blame chimpy" hour he already has the news to do that for him Chuck

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 03:07 PM (AEIYh)

159 Years, really? If I drop it for a month it takes me forever to get back to my usual half-assed plateau again.

Heh. You're better off than I am. I can drop it for years, and get right back to the same point I was before -- but that would only mean that I still suck.

(I exaggerate a little bit. Last time I picked up a guitar, I was surprised that I could actually play rhythm. Comparatively speaking, lead is easy for me, but rhythm kills me.)

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 31, 2011 03:07 PM (bjRNS)

160 Not only is he THAT Jim, he's the Jim that lies about having a Navy SEAL brother-in-law.

This pickle-smoocher is like the male version of curious. Fucking pathological liar.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff is in BEAST MODE at August 31, 2011 08:00 PM (vzFJV)

--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 03:07 PM (YwDKF)

161 Boy, someone put a porcupine up Jim's ass.

Bitter much?

Posted by: mpfs,TPT at August 31, 2011 03:07 PM (3TjSM)

162 156 Jimbo,

have you read the budget???? well I guess so....did you guys ever pass a budget?

compare a DoD to GS retirement for equal years of service and get back to me

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 03:08 PM (AEIYh)

163

--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 08:07 PM (YwDKF)

If so, remind him to kick your ass again. The last didn't take.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2011 03:08 PM (z1N6a)

164

--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 08:07 PM (YwDKF)

 

Haha. Cause everyone tells the truth on the Internet.

 

P.S.

I'm not really dumb and I'm not really blonde.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 03:09 PM (/lKQw)

165 Yeah.  All those rich military retirees.  Everybody knows that's the way to make a bundle.

Imbecile.

Posted by: nickless at August 31, 2011 03:10 PM (MMC8r)

166 The funny part is that GWHB's recession was a piker compared to the Oppression.

Posted by: toby928 at August 31, 2011 03:10 PM (GTbGH)

167 My brother-in-law is Spartacus.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:10 PM (vG00k)

168 Clergy aren't allowed, but are Imams going to be permitted? Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 07:50 PM (c0A3e) Don't you remember how right after 9/11, a memorial service of sorts was held at a NYC stadium, featuring the fucking Muslim Call to Prayer? Only in our Politically Retarded Correct Age would this garbage go on. These idiots would have commemorated Pearl Harbor Day with a freaking Japanese Tea Ceremony, given the chance.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 03:10 PM (niZvt)

169 131 Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 07:57 PM (aBiG3)

I remember thinking, at first, "this is such a tinkertoy and chickenshit ploy to bamboozle the 52 percenters."

But then it occurred to me, the entire affair - the big meeting, bringing in the press, throwing out their lame-ass suggestions - was the sort of thing you'd see first graders do when they were "playing grownup".

I wanted to reach into the radio and strangle every last one of those poseurs.

Posted by: No Whining at August 31, 2011 03:10 PM (Wqfrr)

170

--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 08:07 PM (YwDKF)

If so, remind him to kick your ass again. The last didn't take.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2011 08:08 PM (z1N6a)

164

--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 08:07 PM (YwDKF)

 

Haha. Cause everyone tells the truth on the Internet.

 

P.S.

I'm not really dumb and I'm not really blonde.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 08:09 PM (/lKQw)

But I am telling the truth.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 03:11 PM (YwDKF)

171

--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie.

That doesn't give you a license to act like a jerk towards grieving families. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 03:11 PM (c0A3e)

172 "--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie."

Prove it.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 03:11 PM (eU8ml)

173 I'm not really dumb and I'm not really blonde. Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 08:09 PM (/lKQw) Do you at least have ( o )( o ) ?

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 03:11 PM (niZvt)

174 Don't you remember how right after 9/11, a memorial service of sorts was held at a NYC stadium, featuring the fucking Muslim Call to Prayer?

One of the prettiest sounds on Earth. 

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 31, 2011 03:12 PM (c0A3e)

175 I'm not sold on this guy in 2012 I tell ya.

Posted by: Colin Powell at August 31, 2011 03:12 PM (EL+OC)

176 Do you at least have ( o )( o ) ?

Did you miss the pic on that one ONT? It was awesome. There was beer involved too.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (vG00k)

177 165 Nickless,

yup 20 years minimum unless disabled chasing that 40% of your high 3 is bankrupting the nation....as opposed to the civil servants double and sometimes triple dipping....

I figure wife will get paid her pension a max of ten years...

I have faith in the feds to screw us over

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (AEIYh)

178

Hmmm... a President asks for ANOTHER speech to both houses of Congress...

Isn't this like his third? besides the State of the Union?

Historicaly, were these not for MAJOR things... like Wars? Heck, Tricky Dick Nixon did not even do this when he resigned did he?

Hubris, thy name is Barrak.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (NtXW4)

179

But I am telling the truth.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 08:11 PM (YwDKF)

How does that feel?

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (MtwBb)

180 My pastor will be speaking in Cleveland on 9/11. And I guarantee he will make some people mad

Good for him!  Never forget, never forgive! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 08:05 PM (c0A3e)

--He's probably mad because he's stuck in Cleveland on 9/11. 

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (YwDKF)

181 This, from the man that married what he thinks is one of the prettiest women on Earth!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (niZvt)

182

But I am telling the truth.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 08:11 PM (YwDKF)

Of course you are, cupcake.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (/lKQw)

183 "Tricky Dick Nixon did not even do this when he resigned"

It was Mitchell and Dean I tell you.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 03:14 PM (eU8ml)

184 171

--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie.

That doesn't give you a license to act like a jerk towards grieving families. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 08:11 PM (c0A3e)

Jim attacked SEAL families when the Chinook went down.  He claims his b-i-l is a SEAL and thinks the SEAL families area whiney fucks. 

He's a POS and needs shunning.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 03:14 PM (UOM48)

185 182 D_B,

Davy Crockett was mah paw too

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 03:14 PM (AEIYh)

186

--My brother-in-law was a Navy SEAL.  Not a lie.

That doesn't give you a license to act like a jerk towards grieving families. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 31, 2011 08:11 PM (c0A3e)

--I didn't end up emailing them.  But it does give me the right to call them whiny D*ckheads when that's how I see things.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 03:15 PM (YwDKF)

187 It was Mitchell and Dean I tell you. Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 31, 2011 08:14 PM (eU8ml) Weren't they the famous Olympic figuring skating team?

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 03:15 PM (niZvt)

188 But I am telling the truth. Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 08:11 PM (YwDKF) Sure you are, Jim. And he's coming over next week to play Butt Darts with you and throw you some high-fives as you tell him the families of his dead teammates are dickheads. How about you just fuck off, bitch?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff is in BEAST MODE at August 31, 2011 03:16 PM (vzFJV)

189 Jim, Teddy Kennedy is reserving a seat next to you in hell.

Now fuck off, pussy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 03:16 PM (UOM48)

190 Do you at least have ( o )( o ) ?

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 31, 2011 08:11 PM (niZvt)

Yes, dear. Much to my everlasting regret I actually posted (fully clothed, albeit low-cut) pictures on the ONT one night. Won't make that mistake again!

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 03:17 PM (/lKQw)

191 190 D_B,

I am certain they were appreciated...lord knows PGiS went legend here when she linked her campfire pics

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 03:18 PM (AEIYh)

192 Won't make that mistake again!

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 08:17 PM (/lKQw)

That wasn't a mistake, really. I still have fond memories of that.

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 03:18 PM (MtwBb)

193

--I didn't end up emailing them. But it does give me the right to call them whiny D*ckheads when that's how I see things.

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2011 08:15 PM (YwDKF)

Yes, and just as I bled to defend your right to free speech...

I think I'll use mine right now, and call you a whiney wanna be bitch who has no conception of how the real world operates.

But don't worry... we'll continue to defend your right to make an ass outa yourself... part of the price of freedom...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 31, 2011 03:19 PM (NtXW4)

194

That wasn't a mistake, really. I still have fond memories of that.

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 08:18 PM (MtwBb)

Awww ... thanks, robtr!

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 03:19 PM (/lKQw)

195 I've never met a Jim that I liked.  James, Jack, John, Joe, Jeff, sure.  But never a Jim.

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 31, 2011 03:20 PM (ZtwUX)

196 Did you miss the pic on that one ONT? It was awesome. There was beer involved too. Her rack was so sweet that it launched that swamp yankee dildo into full-on Sexual Predator Mode. Behold! The Power of Tits!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff is in BEAST MODE at August 31, 2011 03:20 PM (XE2Oo)

197  Well ,I can be Dumb (often) and   I have been blonde a couple of times. (looks horrible on me)
maybe we should switch s/ns

Posted by: willow at August 31, 2011 03:20 PM (h+qn8)

198 On the way there had NPR on, the sonorous voices doing Evening Edition, and they were about to do their story on the Gibson Guitar thing. Did not get to listen, as we were arriving. What was the story as played by NPR? I'm guessing they did not say a word about Martin, but layed it out as if Gibson was raping the rain forests or something, and subsidizing slave labor. Not. One. Word. About. the. Dirty. Politics. Close: http://tinyurl.com/3llhx8d You're right about Gibson raping the rain forests. Sort of wrong about not mentioning Martin, though. Oh, they don't mention the dirty politics at all, of course. But they do get some nice quotes from Martin's CEO about how the Lacey act is teh awesome and how they would never, ever use illegal wood.

Posted by: Brendan at August 31, 2011 03:21 PM (2jQGY)

199 wait, willow as s/n doesn't exactly inspire confidence either.

Posted by: willow at August 31, 2011 03:21 PM (h+qn8)

200 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2011 03:22 PM (1Nzoh)

201 Kathy,  did you know my husband and son are named Jim?

Posted by: willow at August 31, 2011 03:23 PM (h+qn8)

202 I know all about illegal wood.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 31, 2011 03:23 PM (vG00k)

203 202 Roman polanski,

do teewwl

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at August 31, 2011 03:24 PM (AEIYh)

204

Well ,I can be Dumb (often) and   I have been blonde a couple of times. (looks horrible on me)
maybe we should switch s/ns

Heh. I didn't say I wasn't blonde. I'm just not "really" blonde. Thank ya Jesus for peroxide and a great hair stylist.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 03:24 PM (/lKQw)

205 So anyone seen that "The Office" episode where Michael Scott promises everybody a big surprise at the end of the day, mostly because he knows all his employee's are highly pissed at him, and then is unable to deliver anything of interest to anyone (except an ice cream sandwich)? 

Yeah, that's what this reminds me of, except I'm not even expecting the ice cream sandwich.

Posted by: Dave S. at August 31, 2011 03:25 PM (UvR6d)

206 ok,  my son isn't really named Jim. nor my husband, but  thought i'd make ya feel a moment of guilt.  snicker.


Posted by: willow at August 31, 2011 03:25 PM (h+qn8)

207  Dumb Blonde, you're not supposed to tell, Only your hair dresser knows...

yeah showing my age!

Posted by: willow at August 31, 2011 03:27 PM (h+qn8)

208 204 D_B.

see I always went the other direction and dyed my dish blonde hair black when I was a young punk....

it'd fade purple

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 03:30 PM (AEIYh)

209

Jim - I'm in - I'll see your 50% in defense cuts - if you cut entitlements/domestic spending by an equal amount.  If vets have to suffer, so can grandma, headstart and cowboy poets.

Of course, when we're trying to fight the twelve-front war that breaks out immediately after we make a 50% defense budget cut, don't come crying to me.  Fortunately, since you'll never agree to equal cuts of red meat from your sacred cows, we'll never have to worry about it.

Whenever someone trots out the "cut the defense budget" line, just ask for quid pro quo from their New Deal/Great Society programs.  Shuts them up every time.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at August 31, 2011 03:30 PM (yK8YH)

210 209 society is 2 blame,

that unholy mexican standoff is why we are where we are actually....

DoD could do its job with half the force if it had the right RoE...luckily the Jimbos of the world will never let that RoE happen

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 03:35 PM (AEIYh)

211 Jim's Media Matters buddy, city gal/curious is busy posting away on the top thread.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 03:59 PM (UOM48)

212 I had a brother-in-law once named Jim.  He wasn't very nice to my sister.  Jim is now dead. 

Posted by: Ugknown at August 31, 2011 04:00 PM (E4Cuj)

213 206 ok,  my son isn't really named Jim. nor my husband, but  thought i'd make ya feel a moment of guilt.  snicker

Posted by: willow at August 31, 2011 08:25 PM (h+qn


The guilt strand is missing from my DNA.  Nice try, though!


Posted by: kathysaysso at August 31, 2011 05:07 PM (7nu1g)

214 I have been absent for some time, but now I remember why I used to love this website. Thanks , I will try and check back more frequently. How frequently you update your web site?

Posted by: The Ice Limit AudioBook at August 31, 2011 06:24 PM (qhonK)

215

1) tax the rich, it's only fair
2) tax the evil profits of evil corporations, they stole if from the poor
3) it's all Booosh's fault
4) the evil Rethuglicans are blocking all attempts to fix this
AND....
1.65 Trillion dollar QE3!!

Restated:
1) tax and spend
2) ???
3) utopia

Because it worked so well all the other times it was tried

Posted by: chuck in st paul at September 01, 2011 05:22 AM (EhYdw)

216

Wheat Belly ePub at September 01, 2011 01:09 AM

Okay Ace, you can take the sock off now.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at September 01, 2011 05:24 AM (EhYdw)

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