August 31, 2015

French-American Hero of Thalys Terror Train Attack Giving Interviews, Looks To be Healing Well
— Ace

Mark Moogalian was the guy who reportedly yanked the AK away from the terrorist.

This interview resolves a lot of questions for me. There were reports that an unidentified Frenchman, said to be an off-duty trainman, was the first to engage the terrorist, and that a French-American pulled his gun away from him.

If claims that a man heard the chuck-chuck sound of the loading of a gun in the bathroom and investigated are true, then "Damien" must be the man who did this. But I don't know if that part is true; "Damien" hasn't spoken yet.

I began to doubt those reports because the timeline I imagined, based on fragmentary reporting, had the Americans acting first.

But Moogalian's account clears most things up. The Americans did not act first -- though they did act last (that is, they took out the terrorist, put him down, and hogtied his ass).

The initial reports about a French guy struggling with the terrorist, and the French-American -- now identified as Mark Moogalian, a professor of English at the Sorbonne, married to, I think, a Frenchwoman -- did in fact pull the AK 47 away from the terrorist. He didn't just grab it; he actually disarmed the terrorist.

Partially, and for a few seconds, anyway.


I'll translate some of the interview, but here's the timeline:

The unidentified man -- who Moogalian calls "Damien" and says is a French banker, not a trainman -- in fact did struggle with the terrorist first. (This is now published so there's not much use in my suppressing these details; it's even possible Moogalian is offering disinformation to protect "Damien's" real name and occupation.)

Moogalian saw the struggle through the doors separating the train cars. He told his wife "get out of here" and got up to help.

While the terrorist fought with this man I'll call, as Moogalian does, "Damien," Moogalian grabbed his AK away from him and began to run away with it. He cried out "I've got the gun!" as he ran.

However, Moogalian says sheepishly that he didn't have much "experience" with this sort of thing, and it did not occur to him the terrorist might have another gun. In fact, the terrorist had a pistol besides the AK (a Luger I think I read) and he shot Moogalian as he ran away with the gun. The bullet went through his shoulder and out the front side of his neck. He crumpled to the ground, bleeding profusely.

The terrorist, we can assume (though Moogalian does not say), must have shot or otherwise taken "Damien" out of the fight. Because now the terrorist began walking towards Moogalian in order to retrieve his AK.

At this point Moogalian felt himself getting weaker and weaker, but didn't think he'd get the courtesy of being allowed to bleed to death -- because he was pretty sure the terrorist would put a bullet in his head as he retrieved the AK from his unmoving body.

And then Stone, Skarlatos, and Sandler came flying out of nowhere.

The timeline now makes perfect sense. The early reports were correct; they were just fragmented and disjointed.

The interview is here; below, some translation.

Why did you make the decision to intervene when you saw, from your seat at the rear of car 12, a strange scene, on the other side of the doors?

Moogalian: I was reading on article on my cellphone when i saw this man enter the bathrooms with his big wheeled suitcase, I found it strange that he was in there for so long. Then I got up when I saw, without really seeing it clearly, that something was happening, that two men seemed to be fighting one another, one of them carrying something that looked like a gun. My brain didn't want to deal with this information but at the same time I said to myself "This man is going to kill everyone. I have to do something."

You had at the same time the reflex to tell your wife to get out of there?

I turned towards Isabelle [his wife] who, herself, was still seated, and I told her "get out of here." This must be serious. I wanted more than anything to protect her. She saw in my face that I wasn't joking. And then, I don't know how, I managed to pull the Kalcahinikov from the man.
Did you exchange words with him?

No, not at that moment. I saw only that he had olive skin. [PROBLEMATIC-- ace.] I was relieved, I left car 12 getting away from him crying out "I've got the gun!" (j'ai la arme). I was satisfied... but not very experienced because I didn't think that he might have a a pistol in addition. I took four or five steps and I felt a pain that almost knocked me unconscious, a shock that knocked me forward. I crumpled to the floor and I dropped the Kalachnikov.

Were you able to keep on watching what was happening?

A little. I was between two rows of seats, another passenger against me. I felt my shirt become drenched with my blood. I tried to look and I saw Isabelle, a few rows away from me. We stared at each other, eyes locked. I told her, "I'm hit. I'm done for." I saw nothing but her eyes. In the past, since as along as I remember, I had always thought: "When my time to die comes, I want to do it well, without any fear." Well, here it was. I saw that Isabelle was about to burst into tears.

During this time, the American military men threw themselves into the fight with Ayoub El-Khazzani. How did you react?

I saw two people virtually jumping through the air to join the fight. It thrilled me to see these people throwing themselves into it. In the meantime, the man [the terrorist] had retrieved his Kalachnikov and I saw him coming towards me. I said to myself: "He is going to turn to his left, see me, and put a bullet in my head." It is very hard to describe, all going very quickly but, at the same time, it was like a movie going in slow-motion. I closed my eyes to await my death.

You thought you were going to die?

The pain of the wound... It was like a fire throughout my body. I couldn't manage to keep my head up. I began to sort of dream. I was no longer in the train. I saw a wooden house, painted white, like where i lived as a child. And I saw my mother who I lost on June 20th, two months ago, with her 60s-style granny glasses... but a little voice inside myself said "You are weaker and weaker. Open your eyes!" After Spencer Stone (one of the American military men, rescuers) busied himself with me. He did not stop talking to me in order to keep me awake. He said to me: "Oh, you are from Virginia? I'm from California! Listen, buddy, you are a hero. You have saved a lot of lives. When all this is over, we are going to drink a beer together." I didn't know how to respond. My wife spoke to me as well. She looked so beautiful to me. We had just come from spending some wonderful days in Amsterdam....

People say that these acts of bravery can serve as an example, such that, faced by a terrorist, passivity is not a good plan. What do you say to that?

We need to be attentive. That's how it is now with these attacks.

Bonus: Apparently Spencer Stone trained with some Brazilian Ju-Jitsu school in Lisbon.

These guys claim they're doing a "breakdown" of the moves Stone used to take the terrorist down. They do not explain Skarlatos' "Muzzethumping" maneuver.

While this video is cool, I have no idea how they claim they know Stone did this or that. They are very specific that he used a rear naked choke -- how do they know that? Has anyone read an account with that degree of specificity?

Well, I don't know where they're getting all these claims, but whatever, it looks likable to me.



Corrected: I changed some wording, sometimes for readability, sometimes because I just translated it wrong (I took "plu" to be the past participle of the word for "to cry;" in fact it's the participle of the word for "to be pleased").

Should be okay now.

Posted by: Ace at 08:28 AM | Comments (378)
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1 Bravo!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 08:31 AM (E9ede)

2 The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with the willingness to say, "Hell no!"

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 08:31 AM (mvenn)

3 As fine a man as they come. Legion d'Honneur. And fellow morons, we have to have each others' backs, just like this. Moving, Ace. Thanks for the trans.

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 08:33 AM (bSp2p)

4 Can we haz movie??  Muzzlethumping,

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 08:34 AM (zSvKA)

5 "If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman."- Ace *** Dude? http://tinyurl.com/qz7u8pv

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 08:34 AM (mvenn)

6 Bravo, indeed.

And Ace, bravo for your French translation skills - it reads smoothly and clearly; can't ask for better.

Posted by: Annalucia at August 31, 2015 08:34 AM (a5bF3)

7 Wow. I'm glad this guy's getting his due. It takes nothing away from the others, indeed it reinforces how brave they were, to note what this guy and the semi-anonymous Frenchman did. And I choke up reading Stone's small talk, while saving Moogalian's life. Thanks for this, Ace.

Posted by: JPS at August 31, 2015 08:35 AM (3y0yx)

8 All of this could have been resolved peacefully if Mr. Moogalian hadn't acted on his hateful racist and nativist impulses.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:36 AM (2Ojst)

9 I could never understand why this doesn't happen more often when some asshole decides to shoot everyone.  Better to go out fighting than stand there and let him shoot you and everyone else.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at August 31, 2015 08:36 AM (t2KH5)

10 @4 - okay, no, that wasn't a Chumbawumba song. But, hey, I'd bet the actual act would fit to that track quite nicely.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (Th1s Week) at August 31, 2015 08:36 AM (o+SC1)

11 10 @4 - okay, no, that wasn't a Chumbawumba song. But, hey, I'd bet the actual act would fit to that track quite nicely. Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (Th1s Week) at August 31, 2015 01:36 PM (o+SC1) The Muzzie gets knocked down And don't get up again

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:37 AM (2Ojst)

12 All of this could have been resolved peacefully if Mr. Moogalian hadn't acted on his hateful racist and nativist impulses. If I had a son, he would have looked a lot like that murderous muslim piece of shit.

Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at August 31, 2015 08:37 AM (8ZskC)

13 Amazing.

Posted by: Chris Hayes at August 31, 2015 08:37 AM (Ui7Rt)

14 Thanks Ace, for digging out the details and getting the story.

Posted by: Amos Grossback at August 31, 2015 08:37 AM (kUjwP)

15 Yes, brave man. First urge was to run toward the fight despite his fear.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (LA7Cm)

16 Incroyablement emouvant.

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (FMvTN)

17 I could never understand why this doesn't happen more often when some asshole decides to shoot everyone. Better to go out fighting than stand there and let him shoot you and everyone else. Yep. You're probably going to die anyway.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (8ZskC)

18 well, good for everyone who got involved instead of sitting there waiting to get shot. inspiring story, for sure.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (AkOaV)

19 The Americans did not act first -- though they did act last (that is, they took out the terrorist, put him down, and hogtied his ass). They should've skinned him while they were at it. As a message to any other terrorists.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (LUgeY)

20 One more thing for now: "I had always thought: 'When my time to die comes, I want to do it well,'" So unfashionable these days, and still crucial. Lord, if I'm ever in a situation like that, please give me the guts to try, and to go down fighting if need be.

Posted by: JPS at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (3y0yx)

21 I had always thought: "When my time to die comes, I want to do it well, without any fear." Well, here it was. I saw that Isabelle was about to burst into tears. Oh bless them. Bless them all. I pray the Frenchman who was the first there lives long and well and damn this Universe that we cannot know his name or else he will be assassinated. When reading this all I could think of was the man who, about to be beheaded by the Taliban, yanked off his hood and screamed "This is how an Italian dies." I am ashamed that I cannot remember his name.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (mf5HN)

22 Wonderful job ace. My hats off to all those men!

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 08:38 AM (PfVjp)

23 This is great!! What a hero.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 08:39 AM (NOIQH)

24 They should've skinned him while they were at it. As a message to any other terrorists. In more self-assertive days, westerners would have done just that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 08:39 AM (8ZskC)

25 Ace, thank you for this.

Very informative. 

Posted by: aquaviva at August 31, 2015 08:39 AM (PXlKS)

26 Oh, mean, mean Figaro. Paywall.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 08:40 AM (JtwS4)

27 Moogalien: a synthesizer that crossed the border illegally.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 08:40 AM (P6Jv8)

28 They should've skinned him while they were at it. As a message to any other terrorists. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (LUgeY) I was going to go with cracking his rib cage, spreading each segment as far as it could go, then chaining the corpse to the front of the train.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:40 AM (2Ojst)

29 @19 - It's a Thalys (Belgian-branded TGV) so the windows don't open, you couldn't chuck him out upon the approach of a convenient overpass.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (Th15 Week) at August 31, 2015 08:40 AM (o+SC1)

30 Everything has changed since 9/11. Today, either you stand up and fight or you die. THAT is the face of evil. Someone should tell that to the DOD, so they stop telling us to hide under beds

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 08:40 AM (gf8BH)

31 If more people acted to defend, to attack the killer to save lives; then the favorable mathematics of being a successful killer drops.

But being self-reliant enough to take such action scares the pantaloons off the Neu-Feudal lordlings.  They don't want uppity serfs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 08:41 AM (zSvKA)

32 Fucking a great shit right there.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 08:41 AM (VMZsK)

33 Moogalien: a synthesizer that crossed the border illegally. Ok, that's actually funny. Snort.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:42 AM (C9pBZ)

34 "After Spencer Stone (one of the American soldiers, rescuers) busied himself with me. He did not stop talking to me in order to keep me awake."

Not a soldier per se, but rather a USAF airman.

Who has at least temporarily immunized his branch of service against "Chair Force" jibes.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 08:42 AM (noWW6)

35 They should've skinned him while they were at it. He had "olive skin." They could have used it to make a nice tapenade.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 08:42 AM (8ZskC)

36 >>>Paywall. It was free yesterday; but they only keep fresh news free. But fortunately my computer must have had the page cached or something.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 08:42 AM (dciA+)

37 So yet another American helps out sort of like Rick.



http://tinyurl.com/mlqgkt2

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:43 AM (0FSuD)

38 The Americans did not act first -- though they did act last (that is, they took out the terrorist, put him down, and hogtied his ass). They should've skinned him while they were at it. As a message to any other terrorists. Posted by: BackwardsBoy "Throw Homie From The Train". Foreign Film Action Flick.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 08:43 AM (E9ede)

39 ProTip: After disarming a terrorist -- shoot him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 08:43 AM (iQIUe)

40 I am ashamed that I cannot remember his name. Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (mf5HN) I think quatrase(sp)

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2015 08:43 AM (R8hU8)

41 Mental note, if you disarm a terrorist: return fire. Thanks, Ace - I wondered how the US guys made it down the train aisle without getting picked up. Looks like there was a sprint for the rifle and the terrorist won... sort of. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. First Place: Muzzlethumping! Why can't we get THAT added to the OED instead of neo-marxist crap?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at August 31, 2015 08:43 AM (JIJNV)

42 John 15:13 

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 08:43 AM (0O7c5)

43 "If it's two hours that means I'm playing Batman."- Ace Or translating from the lingua franca to the debased tongue of the Anglo-Saxons.

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:43 AM (JvPqF)

44 I love that the soldiers treated him as a hero, instead of trying to take all the glory.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:44 AM (39g3+)

45 40 I am ashamed that I cannot remember his name. Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (mf5HN) I think quatrase(sp) Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (R8hU Fabrizio Quattrocchi.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:44 AM (2Ojst)

46 *picked off

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at August 31, 2015 08:44 AM (JIJNV)

47 Much of this story seemed odd to me.  I still wonder who are the true heroes etc.

Posted by: Baldy at August 31, 2015 08:44 AM (sEXjW)

48

I love it that most of the people who charged unarmed into a fight with a crazed, heavily armed, piece-of-shit terrorist were Americans.  Love it.

 

Courage is beautiful.

Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 08:44 AM (Bvf82)

49 "Today, either you stand up and fight or you die. THAT is the face of evil. Someone should tell that to the DOD, so they stop telling us to hide under beds" We were visiting the MATS museum at Dover AFB over the summer. In the mens bathroom is a sign "Shelter in Place Location". Several stalls and sinks. Tiny window, up high. One door in and out. No interior lock on door. In the old days, we would call this a dead end, not a shelter. No

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 08:45 AM (VPLuQ)

50 >>I could never understand why this doesn't happen more often when some asshole decides to shoot everyone. Better to go out fighting than stand there and let him shoot you and everyone else. Takes great bravery, and crowds behave differently. Here, someone acted immediately and others joined in. There are all kinds of stories where a crowd will stand by - each person within it expecting someone else to do something.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 08:45 AM (NOIQH)

51
Awesome story and good relating it Ace.  The event is much clearer now.  I just wonder at what point someone grabbed the AK and muzzle thumped the muzzie, although I suspect the whole thing happened in less than 2 minutes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 08:45 AM (ODxAs)

52 John 15:13 Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (0O7c5) Yes.

Posted by: Lea at August 31, 2015 08:45 AM (lIU4e)

53 Very interesting, Ace; Thanks These are very sad sentences: "We need to be attentive. That's how it is now with these attacks." Yes, people will have to be attentive because the attacks will go on and on and on. Terrible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (OSs/l)

54 So it seems evident that the only way France can successfully control its Muzzie problem is to import Americans. Team America - Fuck Yeah!

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (oDCMR)

55 42 John 15:13 Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (0O7c5) Colt 5:56

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (JIJNV)

56 So, douchebag claimed he just happened to find the guns in a park. What was his reason for undressing and shooting people?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (iQIUe)

57 sorry right, not a soldier, I'll correct that. the article keeps saying 'militaires." I've changed it to "Military men."

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (dciA+)

58 I don't know this man's political leanings, and if he is a leftist he still certainly acted heroically, but notice how he thought the threat was instantly over when he grabbed the terrorist's gun away.

Posted by: greats at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (ZNxx7)

59 God bless them all. They stared into the abyss and were not found wanting

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (zOTsN)

60 42 John 15:13 Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (0O7c5) I'd rather make that other sonofabitch lay down his life for his friends.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (2Ojst)

61 I am ashamed that I cannot remember his name.

Fabrizio Quattrocchi

Posted by: tu3031 at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (YFFpo)

62 This is the kind of collective effort that deters the next scumbag. Let's face it, until they did a little too much of it and WWI bled them white and led them into the fractious '30s and the unfortunate '40s, there was no nation on Earth that so enthusiastically ran to the sound of gunfire than the French. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Maybe there's a little pushback left. We can

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at August 31, 2015 08:46 AM (o+SC1)

63 >>>So, douchebag claimed he just happened to find the guns in a park. What was his reason for undressing and shooting people? his current claim is that he was on the train to rob people, not commit an act of terrorism.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (dciA+)

64 Fabrizio Quattrocchi. Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:44 PM (2Ojst) Thanks

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (R8hU8)

65 Fabrizio Quattrocchi. Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:44 PM (2Ojst) Thank you.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (mf5HN)

66 I ran across an interesting juxtaposition the other day. Pope Pius XII's comments to the people of Rome upon it's liberation by the Allies- comments made June 6 1944. contrasted with Eisenhower's order of the day for June 6 1944. The Pope's comments were the equivalent of "shelter in place". Ike's words were morally strong- the equivalent of jumping on the guy with the AK "Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well-trained, well-equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely."-DDE To rephrase- "The only thing that will stop a bunch of bad guys with guns is a bunch of good guys with guns."

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (mvenn)

67 We were visiting the MATS museum at Dover AFB over the summer. In the mens bathroom is a sign "Shelter in Place Location". That's ridiculously reckless. Any idiot knows that a "shelter in place" location isn't safe unless it also has a prominent "Gun Free Zone" sign.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (8ZskC)

68 The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with the willingness to say, "Hell no!" Yeah. A long time ago, a moron wrote What we've learned is that even ineffective self-defense is good for the community. Effective self-defense is just better. Fortunately in this case sheer numbers won out.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (2lndx)

69 So, douchebag claimed he just happened to find the guns in a park If they were near Chicago or Detroit, I could almost find that plausible.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (2Ojst)

70 They should never pay for a drink in France again

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 08:47 AM (zOTsN)

71 >>So it seems evident that the only way France can successfully control its Muzzie problem is to import Americans. Team America - Fuck Yeah! It's a shame there were no Americans (like these guys) around when that UK soldier was beheaded in the middle of the street.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 08:48 AM (NOIQH)

72 Listen, buddy, you are a hero. You have saved a lot of lives. When all this is over, we are going to drink a beer together.

Stone's awesomeness increases with everything I learn about him.

(Taking nothing away from Moogalian-this is just the first I have really heard from him)

Posted by: 68W58 at August 31, 2015 08:48 AM (rYFmu)

73 "Moral clarity", that's what I was trying for in #66.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 08:48 AM (mvenn)

74 >>>Awesome story and good relating it Ace. The event is much clearer now. I just wonder at what point someone grabbed the AK and muzzle thumped the muzzie, although I suspect the whole thing happened in less than 2 minutes. I think that happened very soon after the events Moogalian relates. The military guys (and Sandler) saw this struggle and heard gunshots. Then Skarlatos said "Let's go" and they did.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 08:48 AM (dciA+)

75
Heh, I wonder what Moogalian sounds like when a French pronounces it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 08:48 AM (ODxAs)

76 thanks guy mohawk!

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 08:48 AM (dciA+)

77 It was free yesterday; but they only keep fresh news free. But fortunately my computer must have had the page cached or something. Ah, I was giving you credit for being a Figaro subscriber.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 08:48 AM (JtwS4)

78 39
ProTip: After disarming a terrorist -- shoot him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (iQIUe)


Ha Ha.  Listen to the video posted at The Daily Mail.  One of the Americans SAYS, I tried to shot him.


Too bad the gun was jammed.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:48 AM (0FSuD)

79 A little. I was between two rows of seats, another passenger against me. I felt my shirt become drenched with my blood. I tried to look and I saw Isabelle, a few rows away from me. We stared at each other, eyes locked. I told her, "I'm hit. I'm done for." I saw nothing but her eyes. In the past, since as along as I remember, I had always thought: "When my time to die comes, I want to do it well, without any fear." Well, here it was. I saw that Isabelle was about to burst into tears. Primé de style français.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:49 AM (NHtMs)

80 Nevergiveup, #30: "Someone should tell that to the DOD, so they stop telling us to hide under beds" Damn right. I've made this point here before - The Army taught me what to do in the event of a near ambush: Turn into it and ATTACK!! Lately they've taught me to do something entirely different if faced with an Active Shooter. What they haven't taught me is how the Active Shooter scenario is any different than a near ambush.

Posted by: JPS at August 31, 2015 08:49 AM (3y0yx)

81 50 >>I could never understand why this doesn't happen more often when some asshole decides to shoot everyone. Better to go out fighting than stand there and let him shoot you and everyone else. Takes great bravery, and crowds behave differently. Here, someone acted immediately and others joined in. There are all kinds of stories where a crowd will stand by - each person within it expecting someone else to do something. --------------------- Contrast this to the Metro Bus knifing in DC where all the passengers watched as the black crazy knifed the white boy 58 times. Public Transport is like entering an execution chamber.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 08:49 AM (oDCMR)

82 They should've skinned him while they were at it. As a message to any other terrorists. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (LUgeY) In parts of Florida and Louisiana the terrorist would have been skinned, cut into small parts, and used as gator bait. Just sayin.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 31, 2015 08:49 AM (Z7G74)

83 Olive skinned? Racial profiling! How disgusting! Too bad that nice Ayoub was unable to rid the world of one more bigot.

Posted by: Liberal Retard at August 31, 2015 08:50 AM (P6Jv8)

84 These guys will be drowning in la poontang.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:50 AM (2Ojst)

85 78 39 ProTip: After disarming a terrorist -- shoot him. ----------------- Double Tap to the head. Then have a beer.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 08:50 AM (oDCMR)

86 "Any idiot knows that a "shelter in place" location isn't safe unless it also has a prominent "Gun Free Zone" sign." That sign is on the fence at the beginning of the Air Force Base property. The entire Base is as safe as Fort Hood.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 08:51 AM (VPLuQ)

87 Insomniac, why do you hate them?  Besides the word poontang is Tagalog

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 08:51 AM (zSvKA)

88 Yes, people will have to be attentive because the attacks will go on and on and on. Terrible. Posted by: FenelonSpoke ------------------------------ Situational Awareness. I was at DMV on Saturday and hated it (of course). Back to the door, just as many people behind me as there were in front of me while I waited for two hours - I was on edge, to say the least.

Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 08:51 AM (lDfK8)

89 I love that Stone talked to him, kept him awake, told him he was a hero, as he kept him from bleeding out. Pretty much gives me hope

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 08:51 AM (zOTsN)

90 Its good that basically the train car took him out. Sad the train employees all ran away (probably trained to) but French and Americans stopped him and the soldiers piled on this guy and worked him over like a speedbag.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:52 AM (39g3+)

91 >>>>I could never understand why this doesn't happen more often when some asshole decides to shoot everyone. Better to go out fighting than stand there and let him shoot you and everyone else. I think this is why shooters set things up to prevent this: shooting movie-goers in a darkened theater where they cannot easily get to you because of rows of seat, or shooting a bunch of elementary school kids. Sad.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 08:52 AM (NOIQH)

92 You can bet Hollowood will have no trouble finding enough homos to portray these heroes in the upcoming movie 'Gang-Poking On The Train'.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2015 08:52 AM (go5uR)

93 See something, say something fuck up a terrorist.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 08:52 AM (LUgeY)

94 his current claim is that he was on the train to rob people, not commit an act of terrorism. Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (dciA+) Does that make a difference under French law? In other words, if it's a terrorist attack can he get the death penalty or something and if it's "just an armed robbery" he can only get life? Or is he just a huge pussy who knows he failed in his jihadi quest and will not pass go, not collect $200, and not get his 72 virgins and so wants to make himself feel like less of a failure?

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 08:52 AM (AkOaV)

95 Village Idiot's Apprentice: Possibly dumb question, but do they get tornadoes there? Where I work we have designated Shelter-in-Place locations that are meant for natural disasters, not for hiding from a crazed gunman.

Posted by: JPS at August 31, 2015 08:53 AM (3y0yx)

96 71 >>So it seems evident that the only way France can successfully control its Muzzie problem is to import Americans. Team America - Fuck Yeah! It's a shame there were no Americans (like these guys) around when that UK soldier was beheaded in the middle of the street. ------------------------ It is too bad. Gotta give credit to the Brit women who confronted the headchopper sans weapons and shamed him on the sidewalk though.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 08:53 AM (oDCMR)

97 >>> Can we haz movie?? Muzzlethumping My movie title nom: Team Muzzlethump: World Police

Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 08:53 AM (hvf9s)

98 They should never pay for a drink in France again Posted by: ThunderB Or a hooker.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 08:53 AM (C278+)

99 >>> Does that make a difference under French law? In other words, if it's a terrorist attack can he get the death penalty or something and if it's "just an armed robbery" he can only get life? ... i don't know. I imagine it does. Pretty sure they don't have the death penalty, though. In any event, the french do not believe him and have opened, formally, a terrorism investigation.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 08:54 AM (dciA+)

100 87 Insomniac, why do you hate them? Besides the word poontang is Tagalog Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 01:51 PM (zSvKA) I've heard it both ways.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:54 AM (2Ojst)

101 We need to be attentive. That's how it is now with these attacks" What's sad is that "we" (the West) forgot to be attentive, and began to believe that bowing down was the better alternative...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:54 AM (C9pBZ)

102 These people are more like invading enemy combatants than individual criminals. They should be killed immediately, not tried. Too bad none of the people stopping him realized this. This guy is a fucking animal, beyond rehabilitation.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 08:54 AM (P6Jv8)

103 Any time I fly, as I wait for the plane to take off, I think about what I would do if I needed to. Keys, shoes, purse straps, whatever

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 08:54 AM (zOTsN)

104 his current claim is that he was on the train to rob people, not commit an act of terrorism. Posted by: ace The authorities also say he activated a burner mobile the same day. Must have found that in the bag too and planned to call his Mom.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 08:54 AM (NHtMs)

105 >>>I love that Stone talked to him, kept him awake, told him he was a hero, as he kept him from bleeding out. stone's pretty awesome.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 08:54 AM (dciA+)

106 Last week, we were discussing the attire (polos & khakis) of the medal recipients at the ceremony. This article mentions that the clothes were indeed provided for them. They had only shorts and t-shirts type for their vacation. http://tinyurl.com/nkkokx6

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 31, 2015 08:55 AM (dQJCS)

107
I think this is why shooters set things up to prevent this:

I think that is correct, although this guy watched too many movies, a train car would seem the last place for a shooting gallery, too tight to move for the terrorist too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 08:55 AM (ODxAs)

108 >>You can bet Hollowood will have no trouble finding enough homos to portray these heroes in the upcoming movie 'Gang-Poking On The Train'. In the Hollywood version, the attacker will be a white soldier with PSTD/dis-illusioned by his country's evil war on peaceful brown people.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 08:55 AM (NOIQH)

109 ProTip: After disarming a terrorist -- shoot him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!


Provided you know how to operate the saftey and you've given him a second to stop, drop, and cower.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at August 31, 2015 08:55 AM (Ck8hC)

110 "I could never understand why this doesn't happen more often when some asshole decides to shoot everyone. Better to go out fighting than stand there and let him shoot you and everyone else."

One incredibly depressing conclusion reached by the Sandy Hook inquest is that it was likely possible for at least some of the children who died to have survived, if their teacher had chosen a different course of action.

They and their teacher packed into a small room with a door that locked from the inside. Except that there were just too many of them, and they couldn't get the door all the way closed to engage the locking latch.

If the teacher among them had found the courage to step out and attempt an attack on the insane Adam Lanza, or even to have stepped out to passively face death at Lanza's hands as an act of personal sacrifice and protection of the pupils, the children would have been able to get the door closed, lock it, and, the investigators said, would most likely have survived.

The panicked teacher instead stayed put. Lanza then pulled open the partially open door and coldly murdered everyone inside, teacher and children alike.

So, another case where "go down fighting" would have been far better than what actually ended up happening.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 08:55 AM (noWW6)

111 ProTip: After disarming a terrorist -- shoot him.
-----------------
Double Tap to the head. Then have a beer. Posted by: No Ways Tard

Yep.  They could also be wearing a bomb.  Easier to find out if the guy is completely still.

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2015 08:55 AM (2oWD2)

112 Or a hooker." It's France. What's the diff? /ducks

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:56 AM (C9pBZ)

113 112 Or a hooker." It's France. What's the diff? /ducks Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 01:56 PM (C9pBZ) The hygiene.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:56 AM (2Ojst)

114 Dude had a burner? so, not a lone wolf?

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 31, 2015 08:56 AM (dQJCS)

115 Terrorists father says he is a good boy I think you should be able to strip the citizenship of family members and deport them all This does not happen in a vacuum. They learn these things at home from their families, these terrorist attitudes. I'm tired of pretending. If your kid wages jihad, the whole family has to go

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 08:57 AM (zOTsN)

116 A Few Good Muzzlethumps The Good, the Bad and the Muzzlethumps Muzzlethumps on a Train Trainmuzzlethumping

Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 08:57 AM (hvf9s)

117 Good news everybody, unemployment is going down! Ignore the fact that nearly 100 million work-age people are out of work. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t01.htm

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:57 AM (39g3+)

118 It boils down to mentality.

They all cowered while Breivak shot them like sheep.

The teacher at Sandy hook probably never took seriously such an event could happen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 08:57 AM (zSvKA)

119 84 These guys will be drowning in la poontang.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:50 PM (2Ojst)


Maybe, but they are all Christians.  The Black guy's dad is a Baptist pastor and they all went to a Freedom Christian Academy together.  Everyone knows Baptist don't drink or fvck.




Funny, wonder why the MSM never mentions that?   Crusades?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:58 AM (0FSuD)

120 And yet they have not learned the lesson.

France and Germany say they are open arms towards any "migrants".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 31, 2015 08:58 AM (x3GpS)

121 It can now be revealed that yes, I am Damien

Posted by: Brian Williams at August 31, 2015 08:58 AM (fWAjv)

122 The hygiene." Snort. Hey, why you insult hookers?

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 08:58 AM (C9pBZ)

123 So, another case where "go down fighting" would have been far better than what actually ended up happening.

Posted by: torquewrench

Our kids schools have told them if they think it's safer to flee the building they can do that.  Stupid to make them stay in the damn building.

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2015 08:58 AM (2oWD2)

124 Maybe, but they are all Christians. The Black guy's dad is a Baptist pastor and they all went to a Freedom Christian Academy together. Everyone knows Baptist don't drink or fvck. Funny, wonder why the MSM never mentions that? Crusades? Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (0FSuD) You know why Baptists don't have sex standing up? Because it could lead to dancing.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 08:58 AM (2Ojst)

125 "Possibly dumb question, but do they get tornadoes there?" Delaware eastern shore. Not really aware of many. But I guess on could build a case for it being a hurricane shelter. Maybe. Still, put a deadbolt on the door, so it might work for either scenario.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 08:59 AM (VPLuQ)

126 Trainmuzzlethumping Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 01:57 PM (hvf9s) ***** Edward Muzzlethumphands

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 08:59 AM (mvenn)

127 OK, I gotta go pretend to be productive. This could take a while . . .

Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 08:59 AM (JvPqF)

128 "Poontang" is a bastardized pronunciation of "putain," French for "whore."
Nothing against Tagalog, or whores who speak it, but, GI lingua franca, WWI.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 08:59 AM (xq1UY)

129 I think you should be able to strip the citizenship of family members and deport them all I think it should be conditional. A good hard working parent can have a kid that goes off the rails. A horrible psychotic radical parent can have perfectly reasonable and productive kids. But if you have nutbar radical freak parents who raised a murderous terrorist, yeah. Exile.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 08:59 AM (39g3+)

130 This does not happen in a vacuum. They learn these things at home from their families, these terrorist attitudes. I'm tired of pretending. If your kid wages jihad, the whole family has to go Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:57 PM (zOTsN) Yeah, I find it unlikely that the kid just woke up one morning and decided to re-dedicate himself to his faith by shooting up a train and dying in a suicide by cop situation (which i assume was his goal). These types are almost always the product of lifelong indoctrination from family, imam, mosque, internet, and a wink and a nod type attitude from their family and "community" about jihadin'.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 08:59 AM (AkOaV)

131 89 I love that Stone talked to him, kept him awake, told him he was a hero, as he kept him from bleeding out.


Pretty much gives me hope

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:51 PM (zOTsN)


All the while, while he was BLEEDING from the thumb wound.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 08:59 AM (0FSuD)

132 The eastern marches of the EU are drowning in immigrants from Albania, Syria, and other places.  So don't bet on those arms being open for much longer as Hungary builds the border fence and Germany strains to house 800,000 refugees this year.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:00 AM (zSvKA)

133 Funny, wonder why the MSM never mentions that? Crusades? " Nah. Hom.... "oh"... /that's a joke, son.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:00 AM (C9pBZ)

134 Thank God for every one of these guys.

They all saved a helluva lot of innocent lives. They are all heroes of the highest order.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 31, 2015 09:00 AM (wtvvX)

135 Yes, people will have to be attentive because the attacks will go on and on and on. Terrible. Posted by: FenelonSpoke --- You say that like it's an inevitability. The French need their own Trump.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:00 AM (P6Jv8)

136

1) Moogalians sees "Damien" fighting with terrorist

2) Runs over and takes AK away and starts to run away with AK

3) Terrorist has shaken off Damien and shoots Moogalian with pistol

4) Moogalian goes down and drops AK

5) Terrorist regains control of AK, approaches Moogalian

6) Other Americans pounce on terrorist

7) Muzzle thumping commences while other Americans hold him

 

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 31, 2015 09:00 AM (uhftQ)

137 Driving Miss Muzzlethumper

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 09:00 AM (mvenn)

138 I think this is why shooters set things up to prevent this: shooting movie-goers in a darkened theater where they cannot easily get to you because of rows of seat, or shooting a bunch of elementary school kids. Sad. Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (NOIQH) Because they are cowards. Didn't one of the women at the Louisiana (?) theater shooting run at the shooter to protect her friend? Maybe she just jumped in front of her. I would love to see a real look at these instances to see what is effective. The only way to stop them quickly is for citizens to stop them.

Posted by: Lea at August 31, 2015 09:01 AM (lIU4e)

139 Our kids schools have told them if they think it's safer to flee the building they can do that. Stupid to make them stay in the damn building. Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (2oWD2) That's smart. I know when I was in school we were drilled on the "shelter in place" thing. Lock ourselves in the classroom if there's every an active shooter. I remember laughing with my buddies like "yeah, okay. for sure. We'll just sit here and wait for someone to kick in the door and shoot us all. Idiots."

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 09:01 AM (AkOaV)

140 These families may or may not be hardworking but they have the same anti western attitudes. They learn it at home

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 09:02 AM (zOTsN)

141 I couldn't help but notice that his first instinct was to protect his wife: the mark of a true man. I hope he and Stone get have that beer real soon.

Also, my hat is off to "Damien", whoever he is. If he hadn't intervened, none of the others would have had a chance.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 31, 2015 09:02 AM (zcbZo)

142 mynewhandle?

Why kick in the door if the walls are drywall.  Aim low and shoot through it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:02 AM (zSvKA)

143 "Muzzlethumpin' Snakes on a Train!" Starring Samuel L. Jackson

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 09:03 AM (NOIQH)

144 Not sure if #5 has been established Tilikum.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 09:03 AM (ODxAs)

145 still can't believe they didn't crush his skull but it's forgivable in all the confusion. let's not make a habit of it going forward.

Posted by: X at August 31, 2015 09:03 AM (xGNLA)

146 Is muzziethumping a form of micro-aggression?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 09:03 AM (VPLuQ)

147 Heat of the moment and all, but I have to wonder about the decision to grab the AK and run down the train car yelling "I have the gun!, I have the gun!" Seems you could be mistaken for the perpetrator. Just a stray thought. Considering he wasn't a trained professional, all in all good for him!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 09:03 AM (mvenn)

148 94  In other words, if it's a terrorist attack can he get the death penalty or something and if it's "just an armed robbery" he can only get life?

Or is he just a huge pussy who knows he failed in his jihadi quest and will not pass go, not collect $200, and not get his 72 virgins and so wants to make himself feel like less of a failure?

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (AkOaV)


No European Country has the death penalty.  Its a shame.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at August 31, 2015 09:04 AM (t2KH5)

149 I know when I was in school we were drilled on the "shelter in place" thing. Lock ourselves in the classroom if there's every an active shooter. " F that. Back in my day the school's rifle club would've made the entire scenario unlikely... Well, that and the assorted arms in the teacher's parking lot...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:04 AM (C9pBZ)

150 >>>Heat of the moment and all, but I have to wonder about the decision to grab the AK and run down the train car yelling "I have the gun!, I have the gun!" yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger. He'll know you have the gun, then.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 09:04 AM (dciA+)

151 143 "Muzzlethumpin' Sheiks on a Train!" Starring Samuel L. Jackson Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:03 PM (NOIQH) FIFY

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at August 31, 2015 09:04 AM (JIJNV)

152 Is muzziethumping a form of micro-aggression? <<<<<

Macro.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 09:04 AM (ODxAs)

153 128 "Poontang" is a bastardized pronunciation of "putain," French for "whore." Nothing against Tagalog, or whores who speak it, but, GI lingua franca, WWI. ------------------------ True. 'Hey you, you somebody' is Tagalog for poontang.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 09:05 AM (oDCMR)

154 I am Damien.
"No, I am Damien."
"I am Damien."
le Damien, c'est moi.

He may do his nation more good by remaining in the shadows.
Could catch on. Speaking of "playing Batman."

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 09:05 AM (xq1UY)

155 Why kick in the door if the walls are drywall. Aim low and shoot through it. Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:02 PM (zSvKA) My highschool was built in the '70s and was all cement block walls, so I think that probably would have offered some ballistic protection. And the doors were steel, but they didn't have dead bolts or anything. Just a lock on the door handles which are very easy to defeat.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 09:05 AM (AkOaV)

156 Breivak got a fixed sentence.  Which turned out to be less than one year per person he murdered.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:05 AM (zSvKA)

157 "You say that like it's an inevitability. The French need their own Trump."

::: coughs discreetly :::

Posted by: Marine Le Pen at August 31, 2015 09:05 AM (noWW6)

158 the clothes were provided in a last-minute scramble by friends and associates in France once the men learned they were receiving the honor. I was about to rant about why our government didn't fix them up again, but I wonder if the polo's were chosen in part because the one guy had his arm in a sling. He probably couldn't wear a proper suit anyway.

Posted by: Lea at August 31, 2015 09:06 AM (lIU4e)

159 Vic!  Good to see you back, how is your situation?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 09:06 AM (0FSuD)

160 These types are almost always the product of lifelong indoctrination from family, imam, mosque, internet, and a wink and a nod type attitude from their family and "community" about jihadin'. The other end of that spectrum is the Sudden Convert who decides to become a muzzie, severs all ties with his family to the point of changing his name (take that, Dad!) and starts planning some sort of idiotic jihad. They're both incredibly intellectually weak and therefore will bow before whoever has the power over them. Pretty much worthless, all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 09:06 AM (LUgeY)

161 150 >>>Heat of the moment and all, but I have to wonder about the decision to grab the AK and run down the train car yelling "I have the gun!, I have the gun!" yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger. He'll know you have the gun, then. ---------------------------- C'mon, we are talking about a college professor here. They aren't very bright, but he did display courage, so there is hope.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 09:06 AM (oDCMR)

162 F that. Back in my day the school's rifle club would've made the entire scenario unlikely... Well, that and the assorted arms in the teacher's parking lot... Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:04 PM (C9pBZ) I am fairly to completely certain there were / are no guns anywhere on, near, or around my high school campus. Ever. At least not legally.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 09:06 AM (AkOaV)

163 >>yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger. Not being someone who would know how to use a gun, especially in the heat of a crisis, my instinct would be to get the gun as far away from the attacker so he can't garb/wrestle it back from me.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 09:07 AM (NOIQH)

164 BackwardsBoy, case in point of the convert is the Mississippi couple who were arrested just before they boarded a plane for Turkey so they could join VagISIL in Syria.  The girlfriend was a recent convert to Islam and was totes cool with the shooting of the recruiters.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:07 AM (zSvKA)

165 Donk infighting Schadenboner. Bernie has joined O'Malley in criticizing the DNC not allowing debates. Meanwhile, Debbie Whitewash Schultz does not allow a resolution supporting Obama's A-Bombs to I-Ran deal. Lot of chickens coming home to roost.

Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 09:07 AM (XUKZU)

166 Chumba Wumbs should write a song about muzziethumping.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:08 AM (P6Jv8)

167 Chumba *Wumba*

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:08 AM (P6Jv8)

168 "Is muzziethumping a form of micro-aggression? <<<<< Macro." Oh good. Wouldn't want to be Non-P.C. And shit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 09:08 AM (VPLuQ)

169 Whooo. Lighting fast Hammer there.

(they actually had a point but oh well.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 31, 2015 09:08 AM (x3GpS)

170 Vic!!! Glad you're back.

Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 09:09 AM (hvf9s)

171 Maet has been polishing, honing, and tweaking the ban-hammer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:09 AM (zSvKA)

172 No European Country has the death penalty. Its a shame. Yes it is. We have the death penalty and it is rarely used until it costs taxpayers millions of dollars. Can we just put them in general population with bubba? Let the games begin.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 09:09 AM (PfVjp)

173 >>>Heat of the moment and all, but I have to wonder about the decision to grab the AK and run down the train car yelling "I have the gun!, I have the gun!" -------- yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger. He'll know you have the gun, then. Posted by: ace ------------------------------ My thoughts exactly. Two to head, then put the gun down so you won't be mistaken for a bad guy. That's IF you were able to survive the initial scuffle...

Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 09:09 AM (lDfK8)

174 O/T

Walker goes after Boosh ad



http://tinyurl.com/nl46ca5

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 09:10 AM (0FSuD)

175 I am fairly to completely certain there were / are no guns anywhere on, near, or around my high school campus. Ever. At least not legally." Heh. Note though that I finished HS before yours was built...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:10 AM (C9pBZ)

176 The underwear bombers father called authorities and tried to warn them about his son They know. Most of them are either in agreement with the jihadi child or turn a blind eye to it like the parent of a hood proclaiming they were a good boy The Nigerian father is in the vast majority. Most of these terrorists learned these attitudes at home first. Never the sudden jihadi types, their parents know beforehand. They aren't all really lone Wolves. They have the support of their families and communities

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 09:10 AM (zOTsN)

177 We have the death penalty and it is rarely used until it costs taxpayers millions of dollars. ---- Who is this "we" you speak of???

Posted by: Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas at August 31, 2015 09:10 AM (8XRCm)

178 "Also, my hat is off to 'Damien', whoever he is. If he hadn't intervened, none of the others would have had a chance."

As I parsed the story, the most likely explanation for why "Damien" got to grips with Jihadi Jim was that Damien was waiting patiently outside the door of the men's WC when Jim emerged with a loaded AK.

Now that's presence of mind. Having to shift instantly from the French version of one's interior thoughts being "Oh man, I can't wait to drop this deuce, I hope this guy hurries up," to "Holy shit! A terrorist with an AK! I gotta take him out!"

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 09:11 AM (noWW6)

179 Ack. Vast MINORITY

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 09:11 AM (zOTsN)

180 Not being someone who would know how to use a gun, especially in the heat of a crisis, my instinct would be to get the gun as far away from the attacker so he can't garb/wrestle it back from me. Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:07 PM (NOIQH) Yup. This guy just grabbed a gun from a terrorist. I think it's more than a bit ridiculous to complain about him trying to get the gun away.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 09:11 AM (mf5HN)

181 "I am fairly to completely certain there were / are no guns anywhere on, near, or around my high school campus. Ever. At least not legally." Baltimore educated?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 09:11 AM (VPLuQ)

182 still can't believe they didn't crush his skull but it's forgivable in all the confusion. let's not make a habit of it going forward. It's too bad that the passengers didn't get to play "kick a terrorist in the nuts for a penny" all the way to the next station. Do that while narrating the proceedings in the goatfucker's ear after each kick. The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for "entrepreneur."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 09:11 AM (LUgeY)

183 I think the moral of this story is, when you take a gun from someone, beat them with it until they stop moving.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 09:11 AM (39g3+)

184 #21Fabrizio Quattrochi.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 31, 2015 09:11 AM (Kucy5)

185 Todd Beamer's philosophy proven once more to be the most effective counter to terrorist acts. Whether by jihadists or just plain ol' nutcases.

Let's Roll.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 31, 2015 09:12 AM (x3GpS)

186 I know when I was in school we were drilled on the "shelter in place" thing. Lock ourselves in the classroom if there's every an active shooter. " Schools are very, very afraid of losing control of kids, and being off campus means they have lost control. It's also why they often forbid cell phones, even to the point of not letting them take calls from their parents who are fighting overseas and only have a limited window to call. There was a school quite a while ago that put up some very draconian restrictions on watching a solar eclipse. It involved locking the doors so that kids couldn't sneak out to watch it in person, possibly ruining their eyes. The windows had to be taped shut; the only way the students were supposed to watch the eclipse was on television. That alone sounds like overkill to me. But the memo also answered the somewhat unlikely question (but I guess if you think eclipses are deadly killers...), what if there's a fire during the eclipse? The answer: do not let the kids exit the building. Wait for further instructions.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 09:12 AM (2lndx)

187 Monday morning quarterbacking is not confined to after a Patriots game.

You weren't there.  The guy accomplished a dangerous mission.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:12 AM (zSvKA)

188 ::: coughs discreetly ::: Posted by: Marine Le Pen ------------------------ Campaign slogans: Send in la Marine! Le Pen is mightier than the scimitar.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:12 AM (P6Jv8)

189 >>They aren't all really lone Wolves. They have the support of their families and communities Yep, just like speedbump Tsarnaev's wife bought the pressure cookers for him at Macy's, and IIRC, the online bomb-making instructions were accessed using her computer. And then there's that nasty piece of work mom of theirs....

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at August 31, 2015 09:12 AM (NOIQH)

190 Not being someone who would know how to use a gun, especially in the heat of a crisis, my instinct would be to get the gun as far away from the attacker so he can't garb/wrestle it back from me. You know how to use a club? Beat him to death with it.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 09:12 AM (E9ede)

191 180 Not being someone who would know how to use a gun, especially in the heat of a crisis, my instinct would be to get the gun as far away from the attacker so he can't garb/wrestle it back from me. Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:07 PM (NOIQH) Yup. This guy just grabbed a gun from a terrorist. I think it's more than a bit ridiculous to complain about him trying to get the gun away. Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (mf5HN) He'd probably never held an AK before in his life, and possibly not even a firearm of any kind, considering the draconian gun laws in European countries.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 09:12 AM (2Ojst)

192 He'll know you have the gun, then. I have the gun. You have the bullet.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 09:13 AM (2lndx)

193 "French version of... "Oh man, I can't wait to drop this deuce" **** deux?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 09:13 AM (mvenn)

194 Until you go to shoot him with his own rifle, and find out it's jammed. Then you have to beat him to death anyway.

A "close relative" came to visit for a couple of days, get caught up on the news between, um, assignments. A relative who went to a little engineering school in the Rockies on a rifle scholarship, and belongs to the rifle team of one of the military branches. And he said one thing about this. "No shit, an AK jammed?"

Many would not think this possible. Glad old Mikhail didn't live to see it.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 09:13 AM (xq1UY)

195 159 Vic! Good to see you back, how is your situation?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (0FSuD)


I am fine.  I went to GA to take care of an injured uncle for a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at August 31, 2015 09:13 AM (t2KH5)

196 >>>C'mon, we are talking about a college professor here. They aren't very bright, but he did display courage, so there is hope. right, i'm just saying shooting him is optimal. As Lizzy said, and this occurred to me after I wrote that, someone completely untrained with a gun might not even know how to shoot it -- is the safety off? Do you know how to turn the safety off? As Lizzy says, in those circumstances, not knowing how to use the gun as a weapon, getting it far away from the terrorist is a good option.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 09:13 AM (dciA+)

197 I am grateful for these guys. You never know until you are there

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 09:14 AM (zOTsN)

198 You know how to use a club? Beat him to death with it. The correct phrase is *muzzlethump him to death with it*.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 09:14 AM (2lndx)

199 Frag.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 09:14 AM (2lndx)

200 IIRC even French fags support Le Pen because they're tired of being beaten up by peaceful Muzzies.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:14 AM (P6Jv8)

201 Besides the word poontang is Tagalog -- Close but no cigar. The Tagalog phrase you may be thinking of is "putang 'na" which is short for "your mother is a whore" (from the Spanish "puta" and Tagalog "ina"). Sometimes shortened to just "putang-" Can be fighting words if addressed to your face, specially if followed by "mo", or just a general imprecation. /languagelesson

Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 09:14 AM (cbfNE)

202 175 I am fairly to completely certain there were / are no guns anywhere on, near, or around my high school campus. Ever. At least not legally." Heh. Note though that I finished HS before yours was built... ---------------------- Same deal in my HS, Class of 73. We had a lot of country boys who would go hunting before school and left their shotguns hanging in their pickups. We never heard of a school shooting. That was something that happened in NYC with Puerto Ricans and stuff.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 09:14 AM (oDCMR)

203 Who is this "we" you speak of??? Granted. But how much did it cost to get the bastards there? After we pay for the prosecution and defense. Ex: theater shooter. Now we get to house him in supermax for the rest of his life.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 09:14 AM (PfVjp)

204

"Not sure if #5 has been established Tilikum."

I am going off what Moogalian was saying.

 "In the meantime, the man [the terrorist] had retrieved his Kalachnikov and I saw him coming towards me. I said to myself: "He is going to turn to his left, see me, and put a bullet in my head."

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 31, 2015 09:15 AM (uhftQ)

205 Fucking barrel.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:15 AM (P6Jv8)

206 "No shit, an AK jammed?" ----- That thought crossed my mind too..... Im thinking user error as in "bolts back and he doesnt know how to release the bolt."..... Or ..... brand new AK packed in cosmoline that was never cleaned from the chamber or action. That'll fuck up a gas tube pretty quick.

Posted by: Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas at August 31, 2015 09:16 AM (8XRCm)

207 off four state sock.....

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:16 AM (8XRCm)

208 C'mon, we are talking about a college professor here. They aren't very bright, but he did display courage, so there is hope. Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (oDCMR) So, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb

Posted by: Dark Helmet at August 31, 2015 09:16 AM (JIJNV)

209 The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for "entrepreneur." Posted by: BackwardsBoy

But "entrepreneur" is...

Nah. Never mind.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 09:16 AM (xq1UY)

210 IIRC a pretty tart insult in San Antonio is to tell someone they have "puta breath"

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 09:16 AM (zOTsN)

211 The AK really didn't jam. the shell misfired and the terrorist didn't know how to clear the cartilage.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 09:17 AM (0FSuD)

212 Or ..... brand new AK packed in cosmoline that was never cleaned from the chamber or action. That'll fuck up a gas tube pretty quick.

Posted by: Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas at August 31, 2015 02:16 PM (8XRCm)

 

I really like it when the bad guys are incredibly stupid.

Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 09:17 AM (Bvf82)

213 196 >>>C'mon, we are talking about a college professor here. They aren't very bright, but he did display courage, so there is hope. right, i'm just saying shooting him is optimal. As Lizzy said, and this occurred to me after I wrote that, someone completely untrained with a gun might not even know how to shoot it -- is the safety off? Do you know how to turn the safety off? As Lizzy says, in those circumstances, not knowing how to use the gun as a weapon, getting it far away from the terrorist is a good option. ----------------------- True. But if it had a buttstock you could just as easily beat his face to a pulp and get rid of all that adrenaline. My first thought would be where are the other armed muzzies. Lone wolf attacks with guns is kind of rare with the breed.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 09:17 AM (oDCMR)

214 He'd probably never held an AK before in his life, and possibly not even a firearm of any kind, considering the draconian gun laws in European countries. Posted by: Insomniac ------------------------ He's from Va. Just south of Richmond. Midlothian is deer country (they will literally eat your azaleas and shit on your lawn in front of you). My guess is that he has had some expose to gu s. Rifles or shut guns at the very least.

Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 09:17 AM (lDfK8)

215 cartilage

Well that explains the jam, no cartridges were in the magazine, it was full of connective tissue...

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:18 AM (zSvKA)

216
ah ok, misread that Til.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 09:18 AM (ODxAs)

217 cartridge not  cartilage.  spell check

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 09:18 AM (0FSuD)

218 >> I didn't know how to respond. My wife spoke to me as well. She looked so beautiful to me. We had just come from spending some wonderful days in Amsterdam.... Sounds like someone saw the banana show.

Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 09:18 AM (rruf1)

219 It's also why they often forbid cell phones, even to the point of not letting them take calls from their parents who are fighting overseas and only have a limited window to call. Well that's taking it stupidly too far but every cell phone is a cheat box these days so it makes perfect sense to take the away. Plus, kids have virtually no self control or discipline so they won't be able to resist texting and playing games if they have the thing. I support taking the phones away during class. I support letting the kid take a call from overseas if he doesn't get to very often. As Lizzy said, and this occurred to me after I wrote that, someone completely untrained with a gun might not even know how to shoot it -- is the safety off? Do you know how to turn the safety off? Every rifle is a dandy club and it takes no weapon familiarity to use a club. Beat them until they are not moving any more. Now we get to house him in supermax for the rest of his life. Until some hero relieves us of that problem in prison.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 09:18 AM (39g3+)

220 The AK really didn't jam. the shell misfired and the terrorist didn't know how to clear the cartilage. Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:17 PM (0FSuD) ---- **types** **deletes** Your messing with us right???

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:18 AM (8XRCm)

221 Baltimore educated? Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (VPLuQ) Nah, nice 'burb. Next to a less nice city. We didn't have metal detectors or anything when I was there, but most of the surrounding towns did.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 09:18 AM (AkOaV)

222 What the hell was that, autocucumber?

Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 09:19 AM (lDfK8)

223 Ohhh, Stephen Price Blair, I have not met my August quota yet...............

Posted by: The Barrel at August 31, 2015 09:19 AM (dQJCS)

224 Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 02:17 PM (lDfK Ah so. I was apparently unclear on which guy was the Frenchman.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 09:19 AM (2Ojst)

225 That was something that happened in NYC with Puerto Ricans and stuff." Ahem. Stuyvesant High School here. And member of the rifle team. (for those not of the NYC persuasion, SHS was at 15th, between 1st and 2nd Avenues)

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:19 AM (C9pBZ)

226 Kudos to Moogalian and all the others who risked their own lives to help stop this thug from killing a train full of innocent people. May their courage inspire us all.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2015 09:19 AM (a31sM)

227 Torn meniscus ALWAY causes misfires.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:19 AM (8XRCm)

228 218 >> I didn't know how to respond. My wife spoke to me as well. She looked so beautiful to me. We had just come from spending some wonderful days in Amsterdam....


Sounds like someone saw the banana show.

Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (rruf1)


Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 09:20 AM (0FSuD)

229 You don't know how you will react until you are there. I think they were heroic.

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 09:20 AM (zOTsN)

230 Every rifle is a dandy club and it takes no weapon familiarity to use a club. Beat them until they are not moving any more. But if you're talking about someone who is female, and smaller with less upper body strength and no experience in that sort of thing? I'm not sure the gun wouldn't' just get taken back. I mean, in this particular circumstance the guy would have probably been better off doing that, but I don't think you can say that's always true.

Posted by: Lea at August 31, 2015 09:20 AM (lIU4e)

231 215 cartilage Well that explains the jam, no cartridges were in the magazine, it was full of connective tissue... Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (zSvKA) Should've mounted an arthroscope on it.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 09:21 AM (2Ojst)

232 >>211 The AK really didn't jam. the shell misfired and the terrorist didn't know how to clear the cartilage. How do you say 'I need a laproscope' in French?

Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 09:21 AM (rruf1)

233 Did I miss something? Did somebody say they weren't heroic?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 09:21 AM (mvenn)

234 But "entrepreneur" is... Nah. Never mind." It's AoSHQ, Jake

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:21 AM (C9pBZ)

235 Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs. So the going rate is saving a train full of people?

Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 09:22 AM (C278+)

236 ..... mmmmmmm cartilage jam..... On English muffins.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:22 AM (8XRCm)

237 Now we get to house him in supermax for the rest of his life. I wonder how much that costs these days? Then you get to add up all the billable hours from his lawyers, all the cop's hours, etc. That POS will be an unnecessary burden on taxpayers until he dies. Just like Charlie Mason. I can't think of a good enough reason why he isn't worm food right now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 09:22 AM (LUgeY)

238 Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs." Ok, now we're just in the "fiction" category.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:22 AM (C9pBZ)

239 Can't we get a poontang expert in here?

Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 09:22 AM (XUKZU)

240 The AK really didn't jam. the shell misfired isn't that a jam, a bullet you can't remove and is blocking the receiver? But if you're talking about someone who is female, and smaller with less upper body strength and no experience in that sort of thing? I'm not sure the gun wouldn't' just get taken back. That's true, I guess you'd have to base it on your physical capabilities. Although in a train full of people I would hope at least one other person would have your back. I would, especially if it was a woman if for no other reason than to clear the shame of having her be the one that stepped up instead of me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 09:23 AM (39g3+)

241 Muldoon, some people are second guessing a guy who had less than a second to react for not beating the brains out of the jihadi.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:23 AM (zSvKA)

242 235 Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs. So the going rate is saving a train full of people? Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+) And getting shot and nearly bleeding out.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 09:23 AM (2Ojst)

243 The AK really didn't jam. the shell misfired and the terrorist didn't know how to clear the cartilage. **** Geez Ace. What kind of joint are you running here?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 09:23 AM (mvenn)

244 Can't we get a poontang expert in here? #twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 09:23 AM (E9ede)

245 239 Can't we get a poontang expert in here? Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (XUKZU) That rules out the married guys.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 09:23 AM (2Ojst)

246 >>So the going rate is saving a train full of people? For you, maybe.

Posted by: Paolo at August 31, 2015 09:24 AM (rruf1)

247 If Ayoub had killed them, I could've given a speech about how tragic it was... that Muslims feel so marginalized and aggrived, that the feel the need toresort to desperate measures like this. Ain't I a stinker? To quote Bugs Bunny.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2015 09:24 AM (P6Jv8)

248 Can't we get a poontang expert in here? Posted by: The Great ____ Snark Have to be a single guy/girl.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 09:24 AM (C278+)

249 So the going rate is saving a train full of people? Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+) ---- At a minimum.....

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:24 AM (8XRCm)

250 I remember as a kid reading the Odyssey story and marveling at the final banquet-hall scene. Odysseus is facing 100+ enemies. They are unarmed and he has a bow and arrow. (The bow was unusual in that only Odysseus was strong enough to use it, but it was not magical.) Why didn't they all jump him and disarm him? Easy peasy. My father said, "Yes, of course. But who will go first?" For some reason I have never forgotten that. And for obvious reasons I especially think of it now.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 09:24 AM (cN9Sk)

251 And getting shot and nearly bleeding out." Dude's gonna need a transfusion or brain damage due to lack of blood flow to the brain... prior to said "celebration"

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:25 AM (C9pBZ)

252 Guy runs up to a terrorist and takes his machine gun. I don't have any critique.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2015 09:25 AM (2Ocf1)

253 Rifles do not have shells, to belabour a point. Cartridges, originally "cartouche," of all things, a French word. As is "rifle." And minie-ball...

@62 has the meat of it. They used to be somebody. Might could be again.
Juluis effin Caesar never sold them short. Never did beat all of them.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 09:25 AM (xq1UY)

254 >>>Can't we get a poontang expert in here? I'm here. What do you want to know?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:26 AM (P6Jv8)

255 Also all the 'men' trying to woo Penelope were beta males, wastresls who drained the wealth of the kingdom while trying to out-wait Penelope.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:26 AM (zSvKA)

256 Very nice article, moving and enlightening.  Thank you, Ace (pbuh)!

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 09:26 AM (/Ho8c)

257 Muldoon, some people are second guessing a guy who had less than a second to react for not beating the brains out of the jihadi. Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (zSvKA) **** I think people (myself included) are reviewing the events as reported and analyzing. A "What- would-I-do-in-the-same-type-of-scenario" type analysis. There is no doubt the guys were heroes. Doesn't hurt to ask what they might have done differently.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 09:26 AM (mvenn)

258 For you, maybe. Posted by: Paolo" Double snort.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:26 AM (C9pBZ)

259 235 Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs. So the going rate is saving a train full of people? Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+) The price is ALWAYS high for one of those.

Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 09:26 AM (w1ewr)

260 "Ohhh, Stephen Price Blair, I have not met my August quota yet..............." I'm sticking to asterisks and quotes until Labor Day.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 09:27 AM (2lndx)

261
I don't really know the correct action either if you didn't know how to operate the weapon, because these guys usually have more than one as it turned out in this case.  He got shot anyway, but it might have been point blank in the chest if he didn't run and started beating the guy and he would be dead.  I say good and lucky call.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 09:27 AM (ODxAs)

262 Did the AK jam or just misfire? Stone said primer was struck but round did not discharge, which would be an issue with the round not with the gun. It's not clear to me if the bad guy did not know how to cycle the action or just never got the chance.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2015 09:27 AM (LjVD8)

263 239 Can't we get a poontang expert in here? Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (XUKZU) That rules out the married guys. Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (2Ojst) And a lot of us single ones too, unfortunately.

Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 09:28 AM (w1ewr)

264 235 Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs.

So the going rate is saving a train full of people?
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+)


When I get married, I'm expecting that regularly. Don't go trying to crush my hopes and dreams.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 09:28 AM (AC0lD)

265 255 Also all the 'men' trying to woo Penelope were beta males, wastresls who drained the wealth of the kingdom while trying to out-wait Penelope. --------------------------- Isn't this where we get the fabled quote 'who's bitch this is'?

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 09:28 AM (oDCMR)

266 Or Ali-Kazaam, just returned from Syria, never had time to clear the misfire because a guy was already in his face trying to take the AK-47 away.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:28 AM (zSvKA)

267 I don't always slice off healthy functioning organs, but when I do, it's the schlong.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner, most interesting person in the world at August 31, 2015 09:29 AM (P6Jv8)

268 Stone said primer was struck but round did not discharge, which would be an issue with the round not with the gun. ---- Hard primer or a weak firing pin spring.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:29 AM (8XRCm)

269 Hey, Ulysses did not act alone. His son helped him.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 09:29 AM (xq1UY)

270 When I get married, I'm expecting that regularly. Don't go trying to crush my hopes and dreams. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (AC0lD) You might want to adjust your expectations. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 09:29 AM (2Ojst)

271 yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger. Also acceptable is break his neck and put a sign on him that says "HO HO HO I HAVE A MACHINE GUN"

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2015 09:29 AM (2Ocf1)

272 When I get married, I'm expecting that regularly. Don't go trying to crush my hopes and dreams. Posted by: Stateless Infidel Your wife will do that for us.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 09:29 AM (C278+)

273 269 Hey, Ulysses did not act alone. His son helped him. Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (xq1UY) From the grassy knoll.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 09:29 AM (2Ojst)

274 241 Muldoon, some people are second guessing a guy who had less than a second to react for not beating the brains out of the jihadi. Posted by: Anna Puma ------------------------- I'm going to be more generous, and just assume most of us (in said discussion ) are simply hashing out what we wish/hope we would do if confronted with the same circumstances. NOT trying to beat this brave guy up at all. He's obviously a hero.

Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 09:29 AM (lDfK8)

275 263 239 Can't we get a poontang expert in here? Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (XUKZU) That rules out the married guys. Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (2Ojst) And a lot of us single ones too, unfortunately. Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (w1ewr) Speak for yourse...oh, who am I kidding.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 09:30 AM (2Ojst)

276 When I get married, I'm expecting that regularly." Time for that rare Triple Snort.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:31 AM (C9pBZ)

277 IOU to lottery winner in Illinois?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 31, 2015 09:31 AM (DsveK)

278
When I get married, I'm expecting that regularly. Don't go trying to crush my hopes and dreams.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel


If by regularly, you mean once every 10,000 years, you may not be disappointed.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 09:32 AM (/Ho8c)

279 Chi, some of the comments were getting very hard to tell.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:32 AM (zSvKA)

280 IOU to lottery winner in Illinois? Posted by: Boss Moss And so goes the Country.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 09:32 AM (PfVjp)

281 Should we tell SI why the bride is smiling as she walks down the aisle?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 09:33 AM (LUgeY)

282 trying to take the AK-47 away." *and we'll have Fun, Fun, Fun 'till Daddy takes Kazeem's AK away*

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:33 AM (C9pBZ)

283 I still wonder how good a legal team a lottery IOU can buy.  Because Illinoid needs to get it hard.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:33 AM (zSvKA)

284 238 Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs."

Ok, now we're just in therare "fiction" category.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C9pBZ)


FIFY

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 09:33 AM (0FSuD)

285 Yes, dude is clearly a hero.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 09:33 AM (/Ho8c)

286 When white women bellydance, it's cultural appropriation. When black women play tennis, is that also cultural appropriation?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:33 AM (P6Jv8)

287 *and we'll have Fun, Fun, Fun 'till Daddy takes Kazeem's AK away* Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (C9pBZ) ----- **golfclap**

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:33 AM (8XRCm)

288 Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (AC0lD) **** Don't feel too bad. Your job will still suck.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 09:34 AM (mvenn)

289 Shooting at a muzzie in a train car full of people?  What if,  at that short range,  the bullet went clean through the muzzie and  hit a French man or woman (or kid).  We'd be hearing a completely different story today.

Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2015 09:36 AM (P25Hh)

290 IOU to lottery winner in Illinois?

Posted by: Boss Moss


I know it would never work but it would be funny if the winner files a lien on some state property and forecloses on it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at August 31, 2015 09:36 AM (Ck8hC)

291 255 Also all the 'men' trying to woo Penelope were beta males, wastresls who drained the wealth of the kingdom while trying to out-wait Penelope. Posted by: Anna Puma -------------------- THIS! Soldiers --- I use the word loosely --- in the FSA! But faced with a MAN, they perished.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 09:36 AM (cN9Sk)

292 279 I know, Anna. But you're at the HQ. On a daytime thread no less... Grain of salt, and all that. I'll just speak for myself - the dude is a hero. 1/2 frog or not. I would like to think I'd be as brave, but I never want to be put in a position to find out.

Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 09:36 AM (lDfK8)

293
All heroes yes.  Its good to talk about scenarios to think about actions although all scenarios are different.  I do this with my kids, for example, if your mom is coming at me with a rolling pin, its time to call 911.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 09:36 AM (ODxAs)

294 IOU to lottery winner in Illinois?>>>

Only the govt can lose money running a Lottery.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 31, 2015 09:37 AM (XtAzU)

295 trying to take the AK-47 away." *and we'll have Fun, Fun, Fun 'till Daddy takes Kazeem's AK away* Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (C9pBZ) ---- Round round get a round I need a round.... yeaaaaahhhhh..... Get round round I misfired a round.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:37 AM (8XRCm)

296 Only the govt can lose money running a Lottery." Or a whorehouse. See "ranch, Mustang"...

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:38 AM (C9pBZ)

297 So how soon will the Beachboys sue the blog for butchering the song?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 09:38 AM (zSvKA)

298 289 Shooting at a muzzie in a train car full of people? What if, at that short range, the bullet went clean through the muzzie and hit a French man or woman (or kid). We'd be hearing a completely different story today.

Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2015 02:36 PM (P25Hh)


He was on the floor, so unless a hobo was riding under the train, I think they would have been OK

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 09:38 AM (0FSuD)

299 I know it would never work but it would be funny if the winner files a lien on some state property and forecloses on it. Oh, my stars and garters, that would be wonderful. How would the press twist that?

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 09:38 AM (PfVjp)

300 Let's not have this good natured banter about yhe barrel. It just encourages the developers to be slothful and think, "they enjoy the barrel, therefore I don't have to fix the barrel". No, whenever the barrel happens, we need to express outrage and petulance. Alinsky tactics to get the barrel thing fixed.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 09:38 AM (P6Jv8)

301 For clarity, in a misfire the gunpowder never ignites, so the gun never fires. Normally part of the energy of firing is used by the gun to cycle the action, which discharges the empty casing, loads a new round into the chamber, and resets the firing pin. More or less in that order. If the gun had jammed it would imply that it fired the initial round off, but something went wrong during the cycling of the action phase such that the gun stopped short of returning to a closed bolt ready to fire again position.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2015 09:38 AM (LjVD8)

302 Should we tell SI why the bride is smiling as she walks down the aisle? She's given her last bj ever. Doesn't mean he's received his last though. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 09:39 AM (E9ede)

303 I would like to think I'd be as brave, but I never want to be put in a position to find out. Me neither. But, at the successful end of deadly confrontation such as this one, a small celebration would be apropos. Got a penny?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 09:39 AM (LUgeY)

304 So how soon will the Beachboys sue the blog for butchering the song? Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:38 PM (zSvKA) ----- #twoweeks

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 09:39 AM (8XRCm)

305 @301

Try to explain that to a MSM reporter.   Well done.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 09:40 AM (0FSuD)

306 So how soon will the Beachboys sue the blog for butchering the song?" Heh.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 09:41 AM (C9pBZ)

307 OK entrepreneurs, real life beckons. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy [/i][/s][/b][/u] at August 31, 2015 09:47 AM (LUgeY)

308 Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs." Ok, now we're just in the "fiction" category. Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C9pBZ) Yeah, and his wife is going to be carried to bed on a unicorn...

Posted by: Timon at August 31, 2015 09:47 AM (ZDJwC)

309 Should we tell SI why the bride is smiling as she walks down the aisle? She's given her last bj ever. Doesn't mean he's received his last though. Just sayin'. Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:39 PM (E9ede) I forgot if you're the rick who's in DFW. If so, your area sounds much more promising than mine.

Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 09:48 AM (w1ewr)

310 I know a guy who is OBSESSED with that Gracie martial arts stuff. He regales everyone within earshot with tales of the Gracie brothers' exploits, and how they were "unbeatable." Of course, they guy himself was a dork who couldn't take down a teddy bear, but that's life for ya.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2015 09:48 AM (jBuUi)

311 Soon...

Posted by: Lawyers who threatened Snoop and Katy Perry over California Gurls at August 31, 2015 09:48 AM (hvf9s)

312 IOU to lottery winner in Illinois?>>> Only the govt can lose money running a Lottery. Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 31, 2015 02:37 PM (XtAzU) Govvie isn't losing money running the lottery, they just ain't paying it out.

Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 09:49 AM (w1ewr)

313 Can they just leave the fucker out in the woods? http://tinyurl.com/oq7h69o

Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2015 09:49 AM (sPO3u)

314

The AK-47 did not jam. It experienced a stoppage.

A jam locks the weapon up to the point where you pretty much have to dissamble it or use tools on it.

The solution to the stopage the AK had was to rack the bolt carrier and chamber a new cartridge.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 31, 2015 09:49 AM (uhftQ)

315 Seventy-one percent of American voters say they are dissatisfied with the way things are going in the nation today, according to a new Quinnipiac University national poll released Monday

God forbid any GOP candidate addresses this in any shape or manner.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at August 31, 2015 09:50 AM (Ck8hC)

316 Doesn't mean he's received his last though. Just sayin'. Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:39 PM (E9ede) Soon, mi amore...

Posted by: Paolo at August 31, 2015 09:50 AM (hvf9s)

317 Not paying winners may affect ticket sales.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 31, 2015 09:50 AM (DsveK)

318 I forgot if you're the rick who's in DFW. If so, your area sounds much more promising than mine. I am. LOL. I wouldn't know. I'm married. Happily. I watch Cheaters.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 09:51 AM (E9ede)

319 I think shooting someone with a powerful automatic weapon in a crowded train car is a poor choice of action, personally. Backstop. Blowthrough.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 09:51 AM (39g3+)

320 Well, yes, difference between FedGov and Chicago Machine, I suppose. Years ago some big-L wag ran up the fair market price of the Fort Ord environs, and the Presidio. At those prices, you could have paid off the national debt by selling them.

Sure enough, the federal government had to budget funds to de-accession them.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 09:51 AM (xq1UY)

321 Around 1900 in the Southwest - guns in school were common place. Students had to walk to school and there were a lot of snakes. Nobody thought anything of it. A modern terrorist would have been in for a real shock back then.

Want to know how much the world has changed since I was a kid in the 1950s? Go watch the movie "The High and the Mighty". Passenger has a gun on a plane - gets disarmed. Asks for his gun back. They give it to him - just minus the bullets.


Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at August 31, 2015 09:52 AM (L9txZ)

322 I forgot if you're the rick who's in DFW. If so, your area sounds much more promising than mine. I am. LOL. I wouldn't know. I'm married. Happily. I watch Cheaters. Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:51 PM (E9ede) Well that makes one of us......

Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 09:52 AM (w1ewr)

323
France, I'm sorry but I don't have a white flag!

Posted by: Mark Moogalian at August 31, 2015 09:52 AM (OiFtZ)

324 Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2015 02:49 PM (sPO3u) Pfft. I wonder if the secret service agents will be on or off camera? They'll have Bear and Obama huddling around a campfire eating bugs and 10 feet off screen will be 2 helicopters, 5 RVs, dozens of SUVs and 100 armed federal agents eating McDonalds.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 09:52 AM (AkOaV)

325 Anther 150 secret or classified Docs on hillary's server and the release is delayed until 9PM??? I guess someone has to lose the most incriminatting ones ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 09:53 AM (gf8BH)

326 The Bear is Loose!
Both Bears!

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 09:54 AM (xq1UY)

327 Well,of course the cock sucking ,dog eating,mom jeans wearing pussy wont ever be in any actual danger.

Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2015 09:54 AM (sPO3u)

328 I still wonder how good a legal team a lottery IOU can buy. Because Illinoid needs to get it hard. Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (zSvKA) _______________ 1/3 of nothing is nothing. Just sayin'

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2015 09:55 AM (a31sM)

329 Thanks for the writeup/translation, Ace.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 31, 2015 09:55 AM (0NdlF)

330 Bear Grylls, of salt-water enema fame?
Wonder how TFG got to be a fan of his.
That's a climate-changer, all right.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 09:56 AM (xq1UY)

331 "They'll have Bear and Obama huddling around a campfire eating bugs and 10 feet off screen will be 2 helicopters, 5 RVs, dozens of SUVs and 100 armed federal agents eating McDonalds." If Bear's original show from years ago is any indicator, yes, that's exactly what they'll be doing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 09:56 AM (LA7Cm)

332 OT but I heard the Bills just cut Fred Jackson. Some lucky team will have a solid #2 RB . . . It'd be hilarious if the Jets picked him up.

Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 09:57 AM (vsbNu)

333 >>>They'll have Bear and Obama huddling around a campfire eating bugs and 10 feet off screen will be 2 helicopters, 5 RVs, dozens of SUVs and 100 armed federal agents eating McDonalds. Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 02:52 PM (AkOaV) I fully expect Obama to name drop into the ep that he's renamed Denali and that the Alaskan natives are wonderful people whose lives we have ruined because Americans are terrible. Because he can't help it.

Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 09:57 AM (hvf9s)

334 Big News. Kirk Cousins is the Redskins starter. At $16M RG III will likely get cut before the season starts. Hail to the Redskins.

Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 09:58 AM (oDCMR)

335 Big News. Kirk Cousins is the Redskins starter. At $16M RG III will likely get cut before the season starts. Hail to the Redskins. Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:58 PM (oDCMR) Yes we heard

Posted by: NY Jets at August 31, 2015 09:59 AM (gf8BH)

336 Moogalian needs to bring his family home to the USA. It's far too dangerous in Europe. There's no going back now that he's been identified; he and his family will be targets Over here everyone has a gun, not just the bad guy

Posted by: Hobbiehawk at August 31, 2015 09:59 AM (Qot/z)

337 "OT but I heard the Bills just cut Fred Jackson." Cowboys could use another runner.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 09:59 AM (LA7Cm)

338 Yes, I am not ashamed to call that guy American.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 09:59 AM (xWW96)

339 >>331 "They'll have Bear and Obama huddling around a campfire eating bugs and drinking unfiltered urine. From the tap."

Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 09:59 AM (rruf1)

340 I was relieved, I left car 12 getting away from him crying out "I've got the gun!" (j'ai la arme). I was satisfied... but not very experienced because I didn't think that he might have a a pistol in addition. I took four or five steps and I felt a pain that almost knocked me unconscious, a shock that knocked me forward. I crumpled to the floor and I dropped the Kalachnikov. Obvious lesson from hindsight: When someone is trying to kill you with a gun, do not turn your back on him until he's disabled, preferably dead.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 31, 2015 10:00 AM (0NdlF)

341 339 >>331 "They'll have Bear and Obama huddling around a campfire eating bugs and drinking unfiltered urine. From the tap." Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 02:59 PM (rruf1) Barry always did love the watersports!

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 31, 2015 10:01 AM (2Ojst)

342 334 Big News. Kirk Cousins is the Redskins starter. At $16M RG III will likely get cut before the season starts. Hail to the Redskins. Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:58 PM (oDCMR) --Someone on Rich Eisen's show suggested the Cardinals, given their thinness at QB, plus Arians' reputation as a "quarterback whisperer." He has resurrected Carson Palmer, so who knows?

Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 10:02 AM (vsbNu)

343

47 The true heroes are the high-minded people who sat there quietly and refused to sully themselves by using violence to solve problems.  We should be giving THEM medals.

Now I have a headache from rolling my eyes too hard

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2015 10:02 AM (LAliD)

344 I suppose that is the AK somebody left in the park with 300 rounds. And the pistol was in the dumpster.

Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 10:03 AM (xWW96)

345 Thanks for translating - that took some time.

2017: President Trump renames Denali "Mt Moogalia"


Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 31, 2015 10:03 AM (UhRGU)

346 LOL...in talk radio news, Rush was talking to a college age millennial and gave him two resources to look at for news, collegefix.com and campusreform.org. Quickly had to go back on air and say that the addy is THEcollegefix.com. Stressed the THE otherwise you go to a...not work friendly site hah. Gotta love the nets. Are there any porn sites trying to piggyback of Ace's name? I can't imagine why not; half the ppl here wouldn't frequent both, hah. Built in audience!

Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 10:04 AM (hvf9s)

347 I'll be so relieved when this damn Brady/Gooddell soap opera ends today. I'm just sick of the story.

Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 10:04 AM (vsbNu)

348 Never mind, Judge Berman will rule sometime between tomorrow and Friday.

Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 10:04 AM (vsbNu)

349 @347

So what happened?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 10:05 AM (0FSuD)

350 I hope Moogalian's wife looked at him the way Ingrid Bergman looked at her husband in the Marseillais scene in Casablanca.

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at August 31, 2015 10:07 AM (L9txZ)

351 Are there any porn sites trying to piggyback of Ace's name? I can't imagine why not; half the ppl here wouldn't frequent both, hah. Built in audience! "But dear, it was an accident! Honest! I typed in ace dot mu dot wow accidentally!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 10:07 AM (E9ede)

352 Will they shoot the Bear Grill episode with Barry like the Moon Landings.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 31, 2015 10:07 AM (XtAzU)

353 Nood.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at August 31, 2015 10:08 AM (E9ede)

354 315 Only a CLOWN would talk about things like that

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2015 10:09 AM (LAliD)

355 349 @347 So what happened? Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 03:05 PM (0FSuD) --Brady and the NFL didn't come to a settlement out of court, so they're meeting the judge today --but there won't be resolution today.

Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 10:09 AM (vsbNu)

356 Anyone old enough to remember Carlos the Jackal? I think I remember someone he kidnapped grabbed the gun, but couldn't figure out the safety. Carlos pulled out his back up gun and killed the guy. Also one of the HyperMarket victims grabbed a gun that was jammed. I pray I'm as brave as those guys, but success does follow preparation. A little luck don't hurt

Posted by: GeneTheHappy at August 31, 2015 10:12 AM (7h+I1)

357 It would be humorous if a bear started to eat Obama and the Secret Service was all "Hey we're supposed to protect him from other people - not animals" and did nothing but fill out all the proper forms.


Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at August 31, 2015 10:16 AM (L9txZ)

358 Same deal in my HS, Class of 73. We had a lot of country boys who would go hunting before school and left their shotguns hanging in their pickups. ----------------- My school's students (school, singular because one building 1st-12th grade) bristled with guns. Not in the school, but after school. I don't think I knew anyone over age 12 or so who did not own a gun of some kind. Incidents = zero. It never crossed anyone's mind to use a gun on another person. After-school and weekend hunting were the norm. Except in summer, then fishing. Red-neck knuckle-draggers we were. Oh, and Church on Sunday.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 10:24 AM (9mTYi)

359 Ultimate renaming?: Fair Street in Atlanta, to Atlanta Student Movement Boulevard. Has a nice Commie ring about it, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 10:28 AM (9mTYi)

360 Also Obama is to blame for not recognizing Jasper Schuringa as a hero. Socialist French President shows what a failure our socialist president is I believe his role with the underwear bomber was similar.

Posted by: GeneTheHappy at August 31, 2015 10:28 AM (7h+I1)

361
I have reviewed the no-bond hearing conducted this morning in Houston, Texas for the suspected police shooter, and I'm calling for a new bond hearing for the suspect because it's only fair he rejoin his family during this time of tragedy.

Suspect Shannon Miles is a man of few words, and has continuously attempted to turn his life around.  His mother believes he has committed himself to Jesus Christ, and based upon that testimony and the fact he's a good boy, I would release Shannon on a 100K into the community to continue his good work. 

Posted by: Liberal Texas Asshole Judge at August 31, 2015 10:32 AM (OiFtZ)

362 Any number of streets in Atlanta have been renamed to suit the prevailing politicians, and to snub Civil War notables. For example, Forrest Avenue, an innocuous short road has been re-named Ralph McGill Boulevard. Because Bedford Forest = Evil, Ralph McGill = Good. Gordon Street, named for Gen. Gordon renamed Ralph Abernathy Boulevard. Payback, you see.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 10:36 AM (9mTYi)

363 I saw a young guy in front of me at church two weeks ago with his new wife: in his back pocket was a little pistol, looked like a tiny Glock. They were close to each other, singing and praying.

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 10:39 AM (Hj3ib)

364 So, any day now Obama is going to come out swinging against these BLM types who with the Panthers are all about talking shit against law enforcement personnel. Any day now...

Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 10:40 AM (Hj3ib)

365 363 I saw a young guy in front of me at church two weeks ago with his new wife: in his back pocket was a little pistol, looked like a tiny Glock. Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 03:39 PM (Hj3ib) I need one of those.

Posted by: Tiny Elvis at August 31, 2015 10:40 AM (vgIRn)

366 Whatever these guys, did and however they did it they're awesome...ALL of them.

By the way, these are MEN, real men.  Thank the powers that be, that they were there.

Posted by: kat at August 31, 2015 10:59 AM (SjUvB)

367 The jiu jitsu guys in that video are great; everybody can learn something from them. Looks like they got some of the facts wrong, though: they show a picture of Skarlatos doing jiu jitsu, but say that Stone did jiu jitsu (maybe both did?); and they say that there were three American military; and they say that the Americans knew the AK-47 was jammed. But these points don't detract from the great reenactment and analysis. I can't recommend that video enough.

Posted by: m at August 31, 2015 11:12 AM (ELEPX)

368 Thank you so much for translating. It moved me to tears, especially thing things he said about his wife and what Spencer Stone said to him to keep him awake.

Posted by: Zelda at August 31, 2015 11:30 AM (oYbWy)

369 The behavior of real men, not leftist sissies who cower in fear and expect to be rescued by civil servants.

Posted by: standfast24 at August 31, 2015 11:53 AM (LLvVZ)

370 Occasionally, as the instructors said, the ladies at the Picatinny Arsenal didn't put any powder in the cartilage. So when the primer popped, the round moved, but stuck in the barrel. There's no clearing that. Of course, the weapon might cycle, the gas from the primer having no place else to go. With the next round you fire the mag straight down, hopefully between your feet, and the rest of the weapon looks like one of those, ahem, "exploded" drawings. Would be nice to know exactly what happened with the weapon. Maybe the primer popped and the round didn't pass the gas port.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at August 31, 2015 12:15 PM (PCWJr)

371 Renner Gracie has the hottest wife ever.

Posted by: Sho Nuff at August 31, 2015 12:30 PM (GyLbC)

372 Did he get the Legion d'honneur? I read that he didn't and it was a terrible mistake he was passed over. If they decided to then it was good of the French authorities to realize their mistake and correct it. Not something go 't officials do a lot.

Posted by: Iggy Slanter at August 31, 2015 02:59 PM (vNZjS)

373 WRT the award: I had read they were waiting for him to at least partially recover.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at August 31, 2015 03:16 PM (PCWJr)

374 I am extremely proud that Monsieur Moogalian was born and raised in Virginia. The Old Dominion is, too!

Posted by: Beverly at August 31, 2015 09:47 PM (W9ish)

375 I noticed, too, that Anthony Sadler's parents are married, and Christian. So that young man Also had a very good upbringing. Rock solid.

Posted by: Beverly at August 31, 2015 09:51 PM (W9ish)

376 Great men who became international heroes that day. May God bless them all. And may their actions teach others what to do when the barbarians have a fatwa (farhtwa). And may olde supermodels react the same way if needed (husband says I will just get in the way. I say I have been a redneck all my life and I will probably lend a fist or two to the muzzlethumping). xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 01, 2015 05:23 AM (mOmt+)

377 Oh, and Ace? Thank you for the translation of a great story with a rare happy ending.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 01, 2015 05:25 AM (mOmt+)

378 That paywall hurts. Dommage! Reports arre that Mr. Moogalian would get his Légion d'Honneur when he was well enough to do so; on 3 September, I could not find a report, in French or English, that he had. Got to this story through Neoneocon. Thanks, Ace!

Posted by: Alfred J. Lemire at September 03, 2015 06:07 PM (nmCiK)

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