April 30, 2017

Food Thread: Everything In Moderation, Including Moderation
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The cacophony of food advice bombarding us from every direction is maddening, because most of it is utter and complete drivel. Some bored grad student designs a lousy experiment with too few subjects and too many variables and then announces to the world that "BROCCOLI WILL KILL YOU!" Or the EPA, in its infinite wisdom and incoherent statistical analysis, will strike fear in the hearts of every mother in the country by proclaiming that if you are pregnant and walk past a fish store selling tuna, your child will be gravely injured.

The fact is that fear is a powerful tool with which to manipulate people, and who are the usual suspects when it comes to controlling us and our behavior? Government. That's who. Specifically, Big Government. And even more specifically, Leftist Big Government. They love to make us fearful of some great unknown danger that only they can detect and solve. Nobody can look at that head of broccoli or tuna steak or apple or carton of milk and discern the relative danger inherent in its consumption, so we must trust...someone....to generate and interpret the data about contamination of our food supply and communicate that risk to the public.

But there is a huge conflict of interest in this arrangement. If there were no significant threats to our food supply and to our health, the justification for tens of thousands of bureaucrats' and functionaries' continued employment would be in jeopardy. And we can't have that!

So risks that in a sane world would be seen as trivial are elevated to ridiculous heights. Pesticide residues on our food are miniscule, except in a vanishingly small number of farming accidents that are quickly detected. And the risk of those pesticides compared with everyday risks such as slips and falls and automobile accidents and not being active is tiny. Ridiculously tiny. Almost immeasurably tiny.

Unfortunately, it isn't just Big Government that wants us to cower in fear of our food (and everything else)...it is their fellow travelers in the NGOs and the think tanks and the small pressure groups (or idiot actresses named Streep) that can have an outsized impact on the American psyche. Don't Fear Pesticides on Fruits and Vegetables is a worthwhile article to read for its skewering of the climate of fear. Although (you knew that was coming)...the authors accept as fact the premise that we should, in fact, eat more fruits and vegetables. Maybe, probably, almost certainly; but it's not a fact, and I bristle when told to do something because it is good for me. I will interpret the data for myself, thank you very much.

Speaking of data, here is some interesting stuff about the difference between organic food regulation and conventional food regulation.

While some groups, such as the EWG, promote organic produce over conventional produce, there are a far greater number of regulatory safeguards in place for use of conventional pesticides. As noted above, the EPA requires an extensive amount of scientific research to support an application for a new conventional pesticide. Organic pesticides are managed by the USDA National Organic Program (NOP). The NOP does not specifically list each allowable natural substance that can be used for organic farming. Rather, it sets the criteria for determining if a substance is natural. The reality is that data on pesticide use in organic farming are limited. Importantly, the NOP is managed by the 15 members of the National Organic Standards Board, of whom only one is listed as a scientist.

Which will you choose?

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Today is the fifth edition of:
"Liquor Cabinets: A Study By And Of Morons."

Mr. Bingley's Hootch Cache

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The Jaegermeister has me a bit concerned, but Mr. Bingley swears up and down that it isn't for his own consumption. And he certainly redeems himself with the Redemption Rye and the Whistle Pig! The see-through doors are great...they send a clear signal that drinks are never too far away.

MANNY! MANNY! MANNY!

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It was once a linen closet, but we got our priorities straight. After all, man does not live on linen alone (at all). Now it houses my collection of over 25 years.

Some top shelf malts on the top shelf. Most of the Adelphi bottling are older Springbanks. A few more got cut off on the bottom shelf/floor.

The two unmarked wooden boxes in the middle of the middle shelf contain bottles of Pyrat 'Cask 23' rum.

Hopefully you'll consider it for inclusion, although I'm more of a lurker than a moron.

Aloha,
-Manny

I am in awe of this collection. The combination of volume, quality, and the clear moral superiority of re-purposing something silly like a linen closet for God's work is going to make it very difficult to beat.

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Ew....
Look for THIS to Spot a Dirty Beer Glass
Chances are you’ve been served beer in a dirty glass, and I'm not talking about something as obvious as a hair or dirt floating around the rim. We're talking oils and gunk, invisible to the untrained eye, smudged around the inside of your glass. Stuff that a simple dip in the sink won't get rid of. Stuff that will break down when it comes in contact with beer, and you will end up drinking.

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Now that the hot weather is arriving (too soon for my taste), it's time to heat up the kitchen and bake bread (I never claimed to be smart)! This is a fun recipe from King Arthur Flour for Pane Pugliese; the bread is good, and the technique is a bit different than the usual.
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Emulsions

An emulsion is mixture of two or more substances that are not soluble in each other.

Everybody knows what oil and water look like when mixed: two liquids with a clear boundary and no mixing between them. No amount of blending will force them to dissolve in each other. Try it. Put oil and water in a blender and let it run on high speed for a few minutes. The resulting mixture will be frothy and bubbly and temporarily mixed, but will quickly return to its normal state of two liquids with a clear boundary. That's because of the hydrophobic properties of the oil, and probably some other chemistry stuff going on that I don't remember.

Add something called an emulsifier however, and the forces that push the two liquids apart are overwhelmed by the emulsifier's ability to mix with both of the liquids. So add an egg to that blender, and the egg will blend nicely with both the oil and the water (use vinegar for taste), and you get mayonnaise.

It's a bit more complicated than that because of some technique problems with dumping everything in at once. But you get the idea.

So what's the advantage for cooks? Well, smear some oil and vinegar and raw egg on a sandwich and get back to me. Mixing those flavors and textures into a coherent whole is a fantastic way to improve flavor. it also keeps everything together, so marinating foods in emulsions can work quite well.

And that, kids, is the point of this long and boring exposition.

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Cilantro Chicken Marinade

• Cilantro
• Dijon mustard
• Kosher salt
• Black pepper
• Garlic
• Balsamic vinegar
• Onion
• Jalapeno
• Brown Sugar
• Ancho chile powder
• Olive oil

Blend until smooth everything together except the olive oil. Then drizzle olive oil in slowly while blending to emulsify the mixture so that it is nice and thick and sticks to the chicken.

I marinated chicken pieces in this mixture for 24 hours, then grilled it on medium-low indirect heat, turning it a few times for even grill marks. Then high heat for some browning and it was done.

Notice I didn't list exact quantities in the recipe, but rather relative amounts. Just go by your personal preference, and expect to use about the same volume of olive oil as the rest of the blended ingredients.

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Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM | Comments (220)
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1 Moderation? OK. Don't eat all your pizza, that way you can have it for breakfast too.

Posted by: Papa John at April 30, 2017 10:55 AM (DpOmP)

2 Yay. Food!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at April 30, 2017 10:56 AM (4DCSq)

3 Stick to the produce and meat sections mostly and you can't go wrong : ) . The interior aisles are Diabetes and Death : ) . We follow Haley Pomeroy's diet most of the year and it's great, healthy and great food. Say good bye however to most dairy, corn, wheat, potatoes and white rice. Simple carbs and sugar are death. And of course, the government in the past has been big on encouraging them LOL. Idiots, and often in bed with Big Food.

Posted by: jp at April 30, 2017 10:56 AM (ctXeH)

4 Mr. Bingley has a beautiful liquor cabinet. Manny. Wow. And everyone knows that broccoli won't kill you. It's the cauliflower that will do you in.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:01 AM (sBOL1)

5 Don't eat all your pizza, that way you can have it for breakfast too. Posted by: Papa John at April 30, 2017 03:55 PM (DpOmP) Cold pizza for breakfast... mmmmmm!!

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 30, 2017 11:02 AM (CKGym)

6 Travel to exotic lands with your entourage (at public expense) and eat exotic foods. So simple! So delicious!

Posted by: FLOTUS Michelle at April 30, 2017 11:03 AM (bc2Lc)

7 Big pot of ham and beans bubbling on the stove. Tons of ham in it.. smells wonderful! Spent my afternoon doing what I love to do. Housework can wait. Jewelry can't! lol!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 11:03 AM (CNHr1)

8 The Jaegermeister is for killing rats.

Posted by: Fritz at April 30, 2017 11:04 AM (TNQMS)

9 Oh and we finally got a little sun. Briefly. More rain coming.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 11:05 AM (CNHr1)

10 This is the placenta thread, yeah?

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 11:05 AM (8nWyX)

11 And that dirty beer glass video? DISGUSTING. I'm glad I don't drink beer. And I know hipsters with beards don't drink drinks with umbrellas in them, so I'm safe.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:06 AM (sBOL1)

12 And everyone knows that broccoli won't kill you

Satan's little green trees.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 30, 2017 11:07 AM (FhXTo)

13 Goodness I LOVE broccoli! Sauteed with some shallots and garlic. Heavenly!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 11:08 AM (CNHr1)

14 Read "The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat, and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet" by Nina Teicholz for a fascinating, yet disturbing look at the government's war on dietary fats and how politics has driven food policy for years. Of course, those "experts" who made (and continue to dictate policy) have about as much educational background on the subject as Bill Nye does on anything he opines about.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at April 30, 2017 11:08 AM (hYNPr)

15 It looks like some of the middle shelves in Manny's modest cabinet are bowing under the strain. I would suggest a MOME at Mannys so we could all help him out.

Posted by: PMRich at April 30, 2017 11:09 AM (w5Qj0)

16 I love broccoli but I can't eat too much at once or it'll make me gassy.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at April 30, 2017 11:10 AM (Zd2ZF)

17 Broccoli and cheese soup is pretty tasty.

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 11:12 AM (Sfs6o)

18 Where's JackStraw? His Mets are losing mightily to the Nats. Maybe he's crying into a dirty beer glass somewhere.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:12 AM (sBOL1)

19 There was this study that went on for 600 years and it studied people who don't drink alcohol but 99.99428% of them are dead so what does that tell you about not drinking alcohol?

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 11:13 AM (zkGZ8)

20 There was this study that went on for 600 years and it studied people who don't drink alcohol but 99.99428% of them are dead so what does that tell you about not drinking alcohol? Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:13 PM (zkGZ --------- The dead ones were probably done in by cauliflower.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:14 AM (sBOL1)

21 the only government food nanny rule/law i find useful is the one that requires fast food restaurants to list calories for each item.

that way i maximize my return on calories/dollar expended.

pretty sure that's NOT what they had in mind, but they're idiots.

Posted by: redc1c4 [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 30, 2017 11:15 AM (i1uFE)

22 Did hipster dude grease up a beer glass with his beard oils?  That's fucking sick!

Posted by: Fritz at April 30, 2017 11:15 AM (TNQMS)

23 The dead ones were probably done in by cauliflower. Posted by: bluebell ________ Figured as much - either that or Monsanto.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 11:16 AM (zkGZ8)

24 I have seen many things in my life. Many, many things. But Manny! You Sir have blazed a trail that many wish they could follow. I think it moved a little.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 30, 2017 11:16 AM (5VlCp)

25 Figured as much - either that or Monsanto. Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:16 PM (zkGZ --------- Or, as we like to call them, Big Veg.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:17 AM (sBOL1)

26 If there were no significant threats to our food supply and to our health, the justification for tens of thousands of bureaucrats' and functionaries' continued employment would be in jeopardy. And we can't have that! - It sucks to realize that welfare is the same way. Everything from direct jobs like the welfare administration to the more hidden like book publishers for social worker degree programs and financial coordination services to send out the ebt cards, we've got to have X% of the population poor in order to employ Y%.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 30, 2017 11:18 AM (fD1ST)

27 Eat what you want, eh?

All right, Huma, get yer skinny ass in here!

Posted by: Hillary! at April 30, 2017 11:18 AM (6Hrsu)

28 pretty sure that's NOT what they had in mind, but they're idiots. Posted by: redc1c4 ________ Put "MD" after your name (or better yet, put it before your name) and demand a regulation compelling restaurants to display dollars-per-calorie in a unit price, too.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 11:19 AM (zkGZ8)

29 The dead ones were probably done in by cauliflower. Posted by: bluebell No, creamed corn. Product of Satan's workshop.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 30, 2017 11:19 AM (CKGym)

30 24. That's the test isn't it? The one that tells you if you're an alcoholic?

Posted by: George Costanza at April 30, 2017 11:20 AM (7sLwd)

31 Anyone who relies on government or academic dictates about healthy diets will make themselves crazy. Remember the food pyramid that started in the 1940s or 50s? Remember margarine is better than butter?Total BS. What constitutes a cancer or chemical danger is too often based on impossible to happen circumstances like 50 gallons a day of something ingested for 50 years. I have mild diabetes according to the latest standards. The same numbers ten or fifteen years ago had me as normal, not even pre-diabetic. Same with 'high' blood pressure, the body mass index (which I swear is designed for anorexic pixies) and probably other things I don't know about. The one item I have proved to my satisfaction is beneficial is lower carbs. And that's for me, not necessarily everyone.

Posted by: JTB at April 30, 2017 11:20 AM (V+03K)

32 Spring has yet to come to the NW so I think I'll take the rest of today and go in search of clean beer glasses.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 11:20 AM (0tfLf)

33 Wow, Manny - I am impressed!!

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at April 30, 2017 11:21 AM (NOIQH)

34 >>>There was this study that went on for 600 years and it studied people who don't drink alcohol but 99.99428% of them are dead so what does that tell you about not drinking alcohol?
Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:13 PM (zkGZ<<<




It tells me that if only 99.99428% are dead after 600 years, then the rest are likely vampires, and we should all start drinking blood.

Posted by: guy who usually jumps to the wrong conclusions at April 30, 2017 11:22 AM (6Hrsu)

35 The pathetic part is that the healthcare busybodies care nothing about anyone's health, that's a lucky side effect. They care about insurance costs. We have a duty to be extremely healthy until we are 75 and then we should die, quickly.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 30, 2017 11:22 AM (3myMJ)

36 Manny has enough there to fell a Russian armored division

Posted by: josephistan at April 30, 2017 11:22 AM (ANIFC)

37 Just read that the USDA will be easing Michelle's stupid school lunch program.

#Winning!!!

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at April 30, 2017 11:23 AM (NOIQH)

38 How do you guys keep liquor bottles around?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 30, 2017 11:26 AM (cOHS7)

39 The dead ones were probably done in by cauliflower. Posted by: bluebell No, creamed corn. Product of Satan's workshop. Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 30, 2017 04:19 PM (CKGym) Wait... really? I have no room to pass judgement on peoples' taste, but those are like two of the least offensive foods there are. One basically has no flavor of its own, the other is salty sweet corn soup. If those weird you out, what on earth do you eat?

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 11:26 AM (8nWyX)

40 If there were no significant threats to our food supply and to our health, the justification for tens of thousands of bureaucrats' and functionaries' continued employment would be in jeopardy. And we can't have that! ***** And Child Protective Services is the same way. You work at CPS? Then your budget depends on caseload. Nothing else. So if you want to show your importance (and eventually get promoted) then that case load had better be increasing. So get out there and rip some families apart. Afterall, its for the children!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 11:26 AM (0tfLf)

41 "Mr. Bingley's hootch cache?!" Oh, my dear brother Charles. Could you not you find a more refined friend than one who calls your liquor cabinet a " hootch cache"? Well, cache is acceptable. It is taken from a French word. However, "hooch"?!!. I grant you that Jane Bennet is a sweet girl with refined manners, but oh, for heaven's sake. Are we to receive every Bennet in the country to take advantage of our hospitality and drink our liquor as well as their friends?

Posted by: Caroline Bingley at April 30, 2017 11:26 AM (fDdVG)

42 that way i maximize my return on calories/dollar expended. "Hey look, Mister, we serve fatty, greasy food in here for men who want to get stuffed fast and we don't need any characters around to give the joint atmosphere. Is that clear or do I have to slip you my left for a convincer?"

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 30, 2017 11:27 AM (jq6X1)

43 Dang, CBD, you anti-semite you, a veritable feast of gustatory, culinary, and booze-atory riches. I will dig in after I get those 100 rounds of 45 loaded up. If josephistan is still here, to answer your question from previous thread, nothing special about getting on the destroyer - open house. As a kid, my father and I toured probably every sort of ship in the fleet (aside from nukes like the subs, the Enterprise, and the Long Beach), several times for some classes. The fleet was yuuuuge, as was the Navy (conscription), there were open houses on one to three ships every weekend, year-round. I recall several times, when we lucked out on slow days, and got personal tours from the commanding officer of at least two ships. Today - tiny/shrinking fleet, vastly reduced manpower, lots of work to do = open houses are rare, it seems. There was also the time my 5th-grade buddy, whose dad was a squadron commander of Phantoms (Vietnam era), had paper work to do on the old Bonhomme Richard over at North Island on a Sunday night, took us along, and found a chief on the deserted ship to supervise us while he did his work. We "played" with the aircraft carrier, including I think operating an elevator. Pretty hard to top that for young boys of that era.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2017 11:28 AM (+wjl1)

44 It tells me that if only 99.99428% are dead after 600 years, then the rest are likely vampires, and we should all start drinking blood. Posted by: guy who usually jumps to the wrong conclusions ________ We could learn a lot from vampires. Consider Count Dracula: He always looked good despite not being able to use a mirror to put himself together.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 11:29 AM (zkGZ8)

45 Speaking of nannies and whiners, the comments on recipe sites are always so amusing. There's the usual showboating where someone replaces regular ingredients with the latest hard to get/trendy item, and the ones who freak out because there's too much X (salt, sugar, whatever) and how dare you post this, and now on Food52.com I've seen a couple where readers are incredulous that the amounts aren't in metric values - "I thought we'd moved beyond this" one sniffed.

People are funny. If you don't like the ingredients, cut back/substitute what freaks you our, or buy yourself a conversion calculator instead of whining at the person who wrote it. *Sigh*

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at April 30, 2017 11:30 AM (NOIQH)

46 I've said this before but deserves another saying.

My father was a used car salesman and a damn successful one. He would say to me, "Jimmy the easiest people in the world to foll are the ones that think they are smart."

Leftists, as a general rule think they are very, very smart. This comes from no real accomplishments just having the "correct" think.  That is why the absolute and utter failure of leftism, socialism, fascism, communism, progressivism is so easy for them to buy.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 30, 2017 11:30 AM (cOHS7)

47 While I'm in a ranting mood, I'll add that parents who have their small children on strict vegan diets (I suspect 99 percent of the time it is mothers, not fathers) should be prosecuted for child abuse. (Hello Mooshel Obama school lunches) I'm not in a forgiving frame of mind these days and my tolerance for stupidity is used up.

Posted by: JTB at April 30, 2017 11:31 AM (V+03K)

48 I'm trying this new "moderation" thing with beer. I used to drink a half-rack until it was gone. Now it's 2, maybe 3 beers at a time. Seems to be working.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at April 30, 2017 11:32 AM (17QyB)

49 If those weird you out, what on earth do you eat? Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 04:26 PM (8nWyX) ------- Pretty much anything but cauliflower. It's evil. I don't begrudge other people eating it, but don't expect me to. Actually, I never liked it, but there was an episode when I was pregnant with my first child that is seared into my psyche.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:33 AM (sBOL1)

50 Salt is good.

Posted by: Grump928(C) intones at April 30, 2017 11:33 AM (ubD4V)

51 *And everyone knows that broccoli won't kill you. It's the cauliflower that will do you in. Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 04:01 PM (sBOL1)* Lima beans. Those things will kill you in a heartbeat. Fear, and revulsion, of lima beans led me to my only dinner table stadoff victory as a kid. I sat there for 3 hours, refused to eat that crap. Mom called it a draw, sent me to bed eatly that night. And we never had lima beans again.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at April 30, 2017 11:33 AM (GjTLE)

52 I just came by a placenta and kidney bean pie. I added a melted cheese topping to keep it gooey and chewy.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 30, 2017 11:34 AM (cOHS7)

53 >>>We could learn a lot from vampires. Consider Count Dracula: He always looked good despite not being able to use a mirror to put himself together.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:29 PM (zkGZ <<<



It's not all it's cracked up to be.


Being a food thread, and all, we never get to enjoy any of those tasty dishes that include garlic.


**sigh**

Posted by: a nosferatu at April 30, 2017 11:34 AM (6Hrsu)

54 We could learn a lot from vampires. Consider Count Dracula: He always looked good despite not being able to use a mirror to put himself together. Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:29 PM (zkGZ --------- Mind. blown. I've never thought of that. *ponders move to Transylvania*

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:34 AM (sBOL1)

55 Here's an umbrella drink for bluebell: Jungle Bird 3/4 oz Pineapple Gum Syrup 1 1/2 oz dark Jamaican rum 1/2 oz Campari 1/2 oz lime juice Shake with ice about 10 seconds. Strain into rocks glass filled with crushed ice. Top with umbrella. Drink! If you're not a fan of Campari, try Aperol. The JB will be slightly sweeter, a little fruitier, and less bitter.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2017 11:34 AM (9q7Dl)

56 *"Hey look, Mister, we serve fatty, greasy food in here for men who want to get stuffed fast and we don't need any characters around to give the joint atmosphere. Is that clear or do I have to slip you my left for a convincer?" Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 30, 2017 04:27 PM (jq6X1)* Every time a burger is eaten an angel gets it's wings.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at April 30, 2017 11:35 AM (GjTLE)

57 Being a food thread, and all, we never get to enjoy any of those tasty dishes that include garlic. **sigh** Posted by: a nosferatu at April 30, 2017 04:34 PM (6Hrsu) --------- Right. *cancels plans to move to Transylvania*

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:35 AM (sBOL1)

58 naturalfake, you're always looking out for me, lol. Thank you. And I see you are being especially considerate and giving me more recipes for the pineapple gum syrup I will be buying for that last drink recipe.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:36 AM (sBOL1)

59 There was also the time my 5th-grade buddy, whose dad was a squadron commander of Phantoms (Vietnam era), had paper work to do on the old Bonhomme Richard over at North Island on a Sunday night, took us along, and found a chief on the deserted ship to supervise us while he did his work. We "played" with the aircraft carrier, including I think operating an elevator. Pretty hard to top that for young boys of that era. Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2017 04:28 PM (+wjl1) When I was but a wee lad, I toured the USS BERKELEY (DDG-15), and they put me on a CIC console and I got to play with L-TRAN, pretending to track contacts and shit. My mom dated a guy onboard, so I got the 5-dollar tour. 22 years later, I'm a Navy Chief and I want to get ahold of the guy. I found out I was in the same rating he was (not a deliberate decision, I found out later that's what he was), and I tracked him down after a couple of years. Turns out, he was close friends with my boss's boss and they talked weekly or so.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at April 30, 2017 11:38 AM (17QyB)

60 we serve fatty, greasy food in here for men who want to get stuffed fast and we don't need any characters around to give the joint atmosphere. I beg your pardon?!! Yours, Sir, is not an establishment I would deign to attend. I have been used to the finest cuisine including eating with Prince of Wales himself on occasion.

Posted by: Caroline Bingley at April 30, 2017 11:38 AM (fDdVG)

61 Wait... really? I have no room to pass judgement on peoples' taste, but those are like two of the least offensive foods there are. One basically has no flavor of its own, the other is salty sweet corn soup. If those weird you out, what on earth do you eat? Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 04:26 PM (8nWyX) Others mileage may vary, but the smell of creamed corn is utterly nauseating to me. Not only can't I eat it, I can't even eat at all if it's around. What do I eat? Now, meat, cheese and leaf veggies. Used to love bread, pasta, rice, etc. Sadly (and 50 pounds less) off my diet.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 30, 2017 11:38 AM (jq6X1)

62 Pretty much anything but cauliflower. It's evil. I don't begrudge other people eating it, but don't expect me to. Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 04:33 PM (sBOL1) Fair enough, like I said, I'm not judging, just curious. I can understand not liking foods with strong flavors like kimchi or manzanilla olives, or weird-looking things like sardines or calamari, I just don't get what's offensive about cauliflower. It's a bland crunchy plant.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 11:39 AM (8nWyX)

63 Posted by: Caroline Bingley at April 30, 2017 04:26 PM (fDdVG) Well done!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2017 11:40 AM (FyX1G)

64 Lima beans. Those things will kill you in a heartbeat. Fear, and revulsion, of lima beans led me to my only dinner table stadoff victory as a kid. I sat there for 3 hours, refused to eat that crap. Mom called it a draw, sent me to bed eatly that night. And we never had lima beans again. Posted by: tbodie at April 30, 2017 04:33 PM (GjTLE) For me it was squash - the texture and flavor make me involuntarily gag. The smell of pumpkins even get me a little queasy.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at April 30, 2017 11:40 AM (17QyB)

65 Being a food thread, and all, we never get to enjoy any of those tasty dishes that include garlic. **sigh** Posted by: a nosferatu ________ Yeah, same with hot cross buns, I suppose. But hey, on the plus side I just came across a placenta recipe you might be interested in.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 11:41 AM (zkGZ8)

66 I have tasted the Chocodile, and it is good.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at April 30, 2017 11:42 AM (66CWr)

67 Milk is a natural emulsion. When you clabber the milk (ie add acid to it, usually vinegar), you break the emulsion, causing the oil and water loving portions to separate.
 
There are quite a few food grade emulsifiers (surfactants), both ionic and nonionic. Most are based on good ole triglycerides, one of the things the docs look at in your bloodwork. Take glycerin, hang 3 fatty acids off it, and viola you have a triglyceride (and a weak nonionic emulsifier). Break the triglyceride with lye, and you get ionic emulsifiers with glycerin, aka soap. Easy peasy home chemistry in action. Folks have been doing these chemical reactions for millennia.
 
Every emulsifier has an oily end and a water loving end, all in the same molecule. This allows the oil and water to coexist, separate but equal, so to speak.
 
Now I need a drink, preferably from Bingley's top shelf.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at April 30, 2017 11:44 AM (wTwJ2)

68 >>>Yeah, same with hot cross buns, I suppose.

But hey, on the plus side I just came across a placenta recipe you might be interested in.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:41 PM (zkGZ <<<




Nah, that cross thing is a myth.


But placenta?! WTF is wrong with you man? We're not disgusting abominations, like zombies.


**gnaws out FireHorse's jugular for the offense**

Posted by: a nosferatu at April 30, 2017 11:44 AM (6Hrsu)

69 I probably love every vegetable there is but yeah, gotta agree on lima beans. Hate them.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 11:45 AM (CNHr1)

70 Oh man, 19-5. Forget the dirty beer glass; JackStraw is going to need a beer IV.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:45 AM (sBOL1)

71 Local television station had a piece about a local pizza parlor with a nation wide award winning recipe. Here's my recap - dough with yeast in it is an actual life. It is working on changing the dough from a boring entity into something tasty. This parlor goes 36 hours before using. I have always maintained that 24 hours is minimum. They drop hunks of fresh mozzarella on the pie, along with store bought shredded. I can verify this is good. Huge difference in color, so keep fresh mozzarella pieces small or visual weirdness occurs.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 30, 2017 11:45 AM (HTdUD)

72 Hooorde! I have a lot of dried beans (black, red, and navy) and want to try a simple baked-beans recipe sweetened with honey (with no smoky / hickory additives) - any favorites / pointers?

Posted by: Steck at April 30, 2017 11:46 AM (LlRQB)

73 The government frowns on drinking, yet here in NYS they are allowing more and more breweries, and distillery's.  Every week I hear of another new brew master, usually very young guys.  The supermarket beer isle is so full of good and (maybe bad) beers named to either make you laugh or catch your eye.  I assume that is happening in all the states now.  All the distillery's sell something call "moonshine", not made out in the back country, for sure.

Posted by: Colin at April 30, 2017 11:46 AM (VWNcW)

74 Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2017 04:34 PM (9q7Dl) Campari is not to be discussed on the Food Thread. It is disgusting, and it should be illegal to use it to ruin unsuspecting drinks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2017 11:46 AM (FyX1G)

75 i grew up loathing sweet potatoes & many a mealtime battle was fought over them. Turns out, it was just the way dear mom (who really was a great cook) prepared them. Years later, I liked them done MY WAY, but she always insisted on bringing them over prepared HER WAY, which was probably a carry-over from those early battles. That lasted until she dropped the entire pan on my new off-white dining room carpet.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at April 30, 2017 11:48 AM (hYNPr)

76 **gnaws out FireHorse's jugular for the offense** Posted by: a nosferatu ________ Aw, crap. Looks like I'm undead now. This sucks having to wait 'til sundown to go outside for a cig. On the other hand, it'd be pointless to worry about the hazards of smoking now. Net-net, I guess.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 11:48 AM (zkGZ8)

77 On the other hand, it'd be pointless to worry about the hazards of smoking now. Net-net, I guess. Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:48 PM (zkGZ ------- And, on the plus side, you'll always look good, even without a mirror.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:49 AM (sBOL1)

78 A-a-a-and here's a great summer drink using a liqueur you probably don't have Summer Babe 2 ounces gin 3/4 ounces Génépy des Alpes* 3/4 ounces fresh lemon juice 1/2 oz simple syrup Lemon twist (for serving) Shake with lots of ice until outside of shaker frosty, about 30 seconds. Strain into glass. Top with lemon twist. Drink! The original recipe was out of balance. Cuz genepy is fairly dry for a liqueur. It needs 1/2 oz simple syrup to balance out the flavors. *Genepy was supposed to be the next big dealio in bartending a few years ago. But...nope! It's a very old Alpine liqueur that lives in the neighborhood between Chartreuse and absinthe, but is lighter than either one. Makes a nice mixer or nice by itself.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2017 11:49 AM (9q7Dl)

79 Lima beans are little packages of soggy talcum powder.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2017 11:49 AM (FyX1G)

80 Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:48 PM (zkGZ Can the undead see the dead? Asking for buzzion.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at April 30, 2017 11:50 AM (GjTLE)

81 lol.. good description CBD.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 11:51 AM (CNHr1)

82 No love for lima beans here either. I am proud to say that in 27 years of marriage, and 29* years of life, I have never ever bought so much as one lima bean. *magical moron math

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:51 AM (sBOL1)

83 Consider Count
Dracula: He always looked good despite not being able to use a mirror


Practically Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdIMx_1OEww

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 30, 2017 11:52 AM (FhXTo)

84 JTB, are you keeping up with the Nats game? 23-5, bottom of the 8th, 0 outs. Yowza.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 11:52 AM (sBOL1)

85 *Lima beans are little packages of soggy talcum powder. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2017 04:49 PM (FyX1G)* So, dear Mom was trying to feed me anti-perspirant. Just telling me to take more showers woulda worked.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at April 30, 2017 11:52 AM (GjTLE)

86 Holy shit!!! the Nats have 23 runs to the Mets 5. Records are breaking all over the place. WOW!!

Posted by: JTB at April 30, 2017 11:52 AM (V+03K)

87 And, on the plus side, you'll always look good, even without a mirror. Posted by: bluebell ________ Thanks, bluebell. That just tipped the scale and put me in a positive frame of mind. Besides, what's the worst that can happen to me now? I mean, just because I'm cursed to be a vampire for eternity doesn't mean I can't still benefit from Dale Carnegie's books, right?

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 11:53 AM (zkGZ8)

88 Holy shit!!! the Nats have 23 runs to the Mets 5. Records are breaking all over the place. Posted by: JTB at April 30, 2017 04:52 PM (V+03K) More runs! More hits! Get bigger bats!

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 30, 2017 11:54 AM (jq6X1)

89 i grew up loathing sweet potatoes & many a mealtime battle was fought over them. Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at April 30, 2017 04:48 PM (hYNPr) Sweet potatoes are one of the few vegetables I don't like. I'll eat them politely if they're served, but I'd never order them or take some from a buffet line or whatever. The one exception was Thanksgiving dinner with Capt. and Mrs. Yonemoto in Waipahu, but I don't know if it was the preparation or the variety that made the difference.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 11:55 AM (8nWyX)

90 Bluebell, Yeah, I'm listening to the Nats game. I can hardly blink with excitement.

Posted by: JTB at April 30, 2017 11:55 AM (V+03K)

91 And I know hipsters with beards don't drink drinks with umbrellas in them, so I'm safe.
Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 04:06 PM


True, as far as it goes ...

Posted by: Hipster with a Beard & a Manbun[/i] at April 30, 2017 11:55 AM (DMUuz)

92 >>>Eat what you want, eh?
All right, Huma, get yer skinny ass in here!
Posted by: Hillary!<<<

A staple of the Hillary Clinton diet is a chickpea and anchovy slurry served on a slab of taftoon.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at April 30, 2017 11:56 AM (TNQMS)

93 Lima beans are little packages of soggy talcum powder. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo You can always tell the people who spent entire days at their grandparents, shucking lima beans out of their pouches, hour after neverending hour, in hopes of eventually filling a bowl, with those who stick their noses up in the air. Lima beans are fantastic pockets of protein. In the post apocalyptic times, those with lima bean seeds may rule the world. You will then rue the day.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum [i] at April 30, 2017 11:57 AM (HTdUD)

94 Lima beans. Those things will kill you in a heartbeat. ***** My mom used to put together a meal of Lima beans, ham hocks over rice. With cornbread sticks. Damn it was good!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 11:57 AM (WTo7q)

95 I don't buy anything labeled "green" or "organic." Because fuckem' that's why.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 30, 2017 11:57 AM (97XyN)

96 Sweet potatoes are one of the few vegetables I don't like

Moar cinnamon and maybe a little cayenne.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 30, 2017 11:58 AM (FhXTo)

97 Can the undead see the dead? Posted by: tbodie ________ I don't know. Being a monster is still very new to me. I'm still puzzled about how the Invisible Man can see anything. Think about it: light goes right through all parts of his body. No refraction going on in the lenses of his eyes. At best, every "image" that hits his optic nerve would be nothing more that a big blur.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 11:59 AM (zkGZ8)

98 Oh man, am I going to enjoy the post game show today. The Nats have tomorrow off. Good. The bats and gloves will need a chance to cool down. Since we don't have TV anymore, I won't be able to see Ray Knight on MASN. He must be vibrating. And it will take three weeks to get the smile off his face.

Posted by: JTB at April 30, 2017 11:59 AM (V+03K)

99 Lima beans and brussel sprouts -- Natures way of saying "I hope you starve to death, asshole."
 
I've always hated both, and both taste bitter to me. It turns out, about 20% of the population have a gene variant that makes their taste buds very sensitive to bitterness.
 
It's in my genes, dammit. The same kind of thing happens with cilantro, about the same % find that cilantro tastes 'soapy' and can't stand it in their food. And that leaves more of it for me.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at April 30, 2017 12:00 PM (wTwJ2)

100 A remarkable, if unlikely cool summer drink. Equal parts gin, bourbon and triple sec. Shake in ice and serve in a chilled martini glass. Garnish with a raspberry. Delish!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:01 PM (WTo7q)

101 Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2017 04:34 PM (9q7Dl) Campari is not to be discussed on the Food Thread. It is disgusting, and it should be illegal to use it to ruin unsuspecting drinks. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2017 04:46 PM (FyX1G) Awwww maaaaan. I have to admit I like bitter flavors. But, Jamaican rum in and of itself really goes well with C****** and pineapple and lime flavors. Pretty much a tiki drink and an aperitif. Yum! And you being a rye man have to love a well mixed Boulevardier

Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2017 12:02 PM (9q7Dl)

102 Ok so it will be a leftover chicken sammy on toast and fresh green beans And don't go anywhere near Limas

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2017 12:02 PM (Ot7+c)

103 *small voice* I like lima beans. And cauliflower, and broccoli, too. OK, my mother always cooked the last two fresh - never overcooked. We were adventurous - we even had artichokes regularly, which I swear no one else in our neighborhood even contemplated. Vegetables are lovely, harmless, tasty when properly cooked and served; Vegetables are our friends. In fact, the only two foods which I can't stand, are liver and onions which no one has forced me to eat since I was a kid ... and chitterlings. Which one of the girls in the barracks cooked. Once. By personal and heartfelt request of most of the rest of us, she never cooked them again in the barracks kitchen.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at April 30, 2017 12:03 PM (xnmPy)

104 Moar cinnamon and maybe a little cayenne. Posted by: DaveA at April 30, 2017 04:58 PM (FhXTo) Maybe. Sweet potato was one of those things like green bean casserole; some desultory thing that we're having for Thanksgiving because that's what you have on Thanksgiving, so it was just in a Corningware with some marshmallow (you can tell a food is absolutely delectable when you have to melt effin' marshmallow over it). The stuff I had with the Yonemotos wasn't the purple Okinawan variety, but there was something about it that made it actually tasty.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 12:03 PM (8nWyX)

105 Lima beans and brussel sprouts -- Natures way of saying "I hope you starve to death, asshole." ***** We've been down this road before. At least it's not okra.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:03 PM (WTo7q)

106 W/ Doritos

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2017 12:04 PM (Ot7+c)

107 And everyone knows that broccoli won't kill you. It's the cauliflower that will do you in.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 04:01 PM


*narrows eyes*

Do not be casting asparagus at my cauliflower.

On the less controversial end of the food spectrum, though, I've been tweaking a recipe for a morel and ham roulade that's going to make an appearance on a brunch menu in about a month.  Got this one nailed.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 30, 2017 12:04 PM (BdD6T)

108 C'mon, O's.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 12:04 PM (sBOL1)

109 Good afternoon horde!!! I just finished planting grey zucchini and yellow summer squash. If all goes well, my neighbors will hate me. I plan to pawn off surplus up and down the street. Two of my blackberry canes are sprouting, and my tomatoes and parsley are actually doing well, considering this is my second time starting seeds. The cold snap took care of the first. But I plan to be wallowing in summer produce: stuffed squash, grilled zucchini, fresh actually ripe mortgage lifters and blackberry cobbler. No lima beans, yet. I only have two raised beds done.

Posted by: moki at April 30, 2017 12:04 PM (V+V48)

110 Sweet potatoes are one of the few vegetables I don't like.

Sweet potatoes are not even remotely a vegetable.  They are a starchy, sickly-sweet TOAB (Tuber of Absolute Banality).

Posted by: pep at April 30, 2017 12:05 PM (LAe3v)

111 Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2017 05:02 PM (9q7Dl) My favorite bartender would often sneak Campari into the drinks he would make me. Not once did I fail to be revolted by it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2017 12:05 PM (FyX1G)

112 Does anyone know what the hell Pym's is good for.  We have a friend who married a Brit, and she keeps giving us the stuff.  It looks and smells like the inside of an old urinal.

Posted by: pep at April 30, 2017 12:06 PM (LAe3v)

113 RMBS, that roulade sounds amazing. And think of it this way: more cauliflower for you.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 12:07 PM (sBOL1)

114 I can honestly say there are only two veggies I don't like: okra and hot peppers. I hate the taste of okra and cannot tolerate the burning from the hot peppers. I hope it doesn't ruin my good name (such as it is) but I always liked lima beans. My grandmother usually served them drizzled with herbs and olive oil or butter and lemon.

Posted by: JTB at April 30, 2017 12:07 PM (V+03K)

115 off, sock

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 30, 2017 12:07 PM (KbfL/)

116 *My favorite bartender would often sneak Campari into the drinks he would make me. Not once did I fail to be revolted by it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2017 05:05 PM (FyX1G)* Wait. Your favorite bartender did this?

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:08 PM (GjTLE)

117 Correction: Pimm's.

Posted by: pep at April 30, 2017 12:08 PM (LAe3v)

118 A goodly portion of my property is wooded. I have planted sweet potatoes to act as a ground cover there. Because of the lack of sun, they don't get very big but even carrot looking sweet potatoes will be handy in the Burning Time.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 30, 2017 12:08 PM (ubD4V)

119 Wait. Your favorite bartender did this? Posted by: tbodie at April 30, 2017 05:08 PM (GjTLE) ------- Tells you something, doesn't it.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 12:08 PM (sBOL1)

120 I like lima beans, brussel sprouts and okra.

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 12:09 PM (Sfs6o)

121 JTB. You are a good man sir.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:09 PM (WTo7q)

122 *** ATTENTION: Northern VA Morons! ***

I'm going to begin liquidating my possessions as I plan to find a new place to live.  I'm paring WAY down because I'll be traveling light.  Since this is the food thread, I'll mention kitchen items.

If you are looking for anything in particular, email me (see nick).  Otherwise, some of the things I have to get rid of include a Kitchen Aid mixer with attachments (red), all kinds of glassware including wine glasses (4 Waterford) and tons of various cooking implements and gadgets.  A set of Henckles steak knives in a wooden block. And much more.

I wouldn't mind cash donations, but the biggest part of releasing items like this (and I've done it before, so I know the psychological benefits) is finding a suitable home for the things I've loved.  My friends in gray boxes have been good to me, and I'd like to return the favor.

This will be an ongoing project, but I'd like to do it over the next 4-5 months.  Any takers?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:09 PM (tHwdc)

123 Ham and Mothers...

that's all i have to say about lima beans

Posted by: redc1c4 [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:10 PM (i1uFE)

124 Needs bacon

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2017 12:10 PM (Ot7+c)

125 JTB, Unlike Weasel who fails two out of three.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:11 PM (WTo7q)

126 *I can honestly say there are only two veggies I don't like: okra and hot peppers. I hate the taste of okra and cannot tolerate the burning from the hot peppers. * Hmmm. And here i am looking forward to fresh okra fried with sliced jalapeño.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:11 PM (GjTLE)

127 I also like mustard on French fries.

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 12:12 PM (Sfs6o)

128 Skip. The bacon was a given.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:12 PM (WTo7q)

129 I like lima beans, brussel sprouts and okra. Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 05:09 PM (Sfs6o) *fistbump* Fried breaded okra with catfish, sauteed lima beans in butter with minced garlic, brussels sprouts roasted under the broiler in olive oil with shallots. No shame in my game. ...except for certain shellfish and crustaceans.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 12:13 PM (8nWyX)

130 JTB, I almost went to that game. We have tickets we need to trade in for a pre-season game against the Red Sox that got rained out. We decided to wait until my daughter is home from college though, so we passed on this game. Darn it. I would have loved to be there.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 12:13 PM (sBOL1)

131 And NO beans or tomatoes ever in chili.

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 12:13 PM (Sfs6o)

132 Hmmmmm.... I suspect Weasel in his spare time also follows farm animals around the yard.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:13 PM (WTo7q)

133 RMBS, that roulade sounds amazing.

And think of it this way: more cauliflower for you.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 05:07 PM


It does rock.  The wrap itself is mostly well beaten egg yolk with Madeira, nutmeg, salt and white pepper, folded into beaten egg whites and then spread onto a baking sheet and baked into a kind of light, almost souffle like substance.  The original recipe adds a couple of tbsps of flour, but I have a gluten intolerant guest coming who would love this, so I've been playing with it to see if the flour is really necessary.  It isn't.  The filling is morels and button mushrooms, garlic, diced ham, parsley, more Madeira, leeks, cream and a little cream cheese.  Spread on base layer, roll up and slice.  Never not a hit.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 30, 2017 12:14 PM (BdD6T)

134 I like sweet tater oven fries and they are ok baked and served with butter and garlic salt. Sugar does not compliment the flavor IMO. Trying a lazy cooks roast today. Raw taters and carrots don't get done in the crockpot so I'm just using frozen 'southern hash browns' -small 'tater cubes and some frozen peas and carrots because the buffalo roasts need the crockpot for tenderness. Yes I know a proper foodie would roast some taters and carrots separately in the oven but if that tasty meat is tender and veggies are cooked and seasoned that is good enough at chez rider.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 30, 2017 12:14 PM (8qFZP)

135 Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 05:13 PM (8nWyX) -------- *double high five fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 12:14 PM (Sfs6o)

136 * And NO beans or tomatoes ever in chili. Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 05:13 PM (Sfs6o)* Word. Rice, chili & rice. Only way to go.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:15 PM (GjTLE)

137 Never not a hit. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 30, 2017 05:14 PM (BdD6T) ---------- Oh my. What time shall I be over?

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 12:15 PM (sBOL1)

138 Does anyone know what the hell Pym's is good for. We have a friend who married a Brit, and she keeps giving us the stuff. It looks and smells like the inside of an old urinal. Posted by: pep at April 30, 2017 05:06 PM (LAe3v) That's because it is "stuff" from an old urinal. A very,very,very old urinal. Pimm's Cup recipe: Fill a tall 12 oz glass with ice and add 1 1/4 oz. Pimm's #1 and 3 oz lemonade. Then top off with 7up. Garnish with cucumber. From the Napoleon House in the Big Easy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 30, 2017 12:15 PM (5VlCp)

139 Does anyone know what the hell Pym's is good for. We have a friend who married a Brit, and she keeps giving us the stuff. It looks and smells like the inside of an old urinal. Posted by: pep at April 30, 2017 05:06 PM (LAe3v) You must have the most delightful urinals in the world in pepland. Okay, so Brits lo-o-o-o-o-ove what they call "Summer Cups". "Summer Cup" is sort of a mash-up between a fruit salad and a pink gin and tonic and sangria. Pimm's Cup is gin and bitters and fruit juices and spices mixed together like a liqueur. The idea is to take a couple of ounces of Pimm's and mix it with soda or 7-up or ginger ale, etc then add cucumber and lime and strawberries and orange wedges and lemon or whatever you damn well please. I think your neighbor may well be a Russian spy because making a good Summer Cup is pretty much a requirement of British citizenship.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2017 12:16 PM (9q7Dl)

140 Try grilling sweet potatoes Hot roast beef sammy is next

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2017 12:16 PM (Ot7+c)

141 Oh my.

What time shall I be over?

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 05:15 PM


LOL  I think I may have the original recipe scanned somewhere (minus my little tweaks).  If you want I can send it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 30, 2017 12:17 PM (BdD6T)

142 130 ... bluebell, Sorry you didn't get to the game. The crowd must have been going crazy and that's always fun.

Posted by: JTB at April 30, 2017 12:17 PM (V+03K)

143 Wait. Your favorite bartender did this?

It's Jersey, ball breaking is a sport.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 30, 2017 12:18 PM (FhXTo)

144 136 * And NO beans or tomatoes ever in chili. Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 05:13 PM (Sfs6o)* ***** REFORGER 1976. SFC Hernandez was the Battery cook. Cold as hell and he whips up his chili. The only starch he would allow was macaroni. The Devil's own Chilimac. He included tomatoes but just enough to tease us.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:19 PM (WTo7q)

145 Miley, error message when I click. I'm interested. Where are you moving to?

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 12:20 PM (CNHr1)

146 REFORGER 1976.
SFC Hernandez was the Battery cook. Cold as hell and he whips up his chili. The only starch he would allow was macaroni.
The Devil's own Chilimac.
He included tomatoes but just enough to tease us. Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 05:19 PM


At least you were spared from the horror of carrots in that chili.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 30, 2017 12:20 PM (BdD6T)

147 8 The Jaegermeister is for killing rats. Posted by: Fritz at April 30, 2017 04:04 PM (TNQMS) When I was stationed "over there"; the word I got from the natives, Jager was kind of looked down upon, as something alcoholics might drink, the equivalent of when drunks were populating the drug store on Sundays back in the day of blue laws, quaffing Geritol. I was shown how it was not too bad, ice cold as an apertif. This, in a country where beer drinkers were looked upon a little askance, sort of like bikers and harley riders are here. Wine is for the civilized folk, apparently. The old joke punchline to American beer "Your horse has diabetes" is even worse in context.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 30, 2017 12:20 PM (fE9nD)

148 LOL I think I may have the original recipe scanned somewhere (minus my little tweaks). If you want I can send it. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 30, 2017 05:17 PM (BdD6T) -------- Yes, please! I'll have to wait for a time when my lactose-intolerant girls are gone, but it sounds delicious.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 12:20 PM (sBOL1)

149 4 We could learn a lot from vampires. Consider Count Dracula: He always looked good despite not being able to use a mirror to put himself together. Posted by: FireHorse at April 30, 2017 04:29 PM (zkGZ --------- Mind. blown. I've never thought of that. *ponders move to Transylvania* Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 04:34 PM (sBOL1) This reminded me of a hilarious scene in "What We Do in the Shadows." Did anyone else watch the Southern Weekend clip about Lewis Barbeque after the beer glass video? I am drooling for some of that Texas-style brisket. Looked soooo good. "And we have turkey. That's for the vegetarians." LOL.

Posted by: Gem at April 30, 2017 12:21 PM (uaHyk)

150 RMBS. True enough.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:21 PM (WTo7q)

151 Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 05:19 PM (WTo7q) Just call it goulash, no worries. "This chili is terrible" "Ain't chili, it's goulash" "Oh, it's pretty good then"

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 12:21 PM (8nWyX)

152 I hate that dirty dozen article. Where do we go to get our reputation back. If strawberries were dangerous I wouldn't eat them out of the field. I wash my produce to clean dirt. Organic growers use pesticides and fertilizers. The yields are lower, it's more expensive and usually an uglier product. Farmers are totally into poisoning their customers. 1 poison customers 2 ????? 3 profit

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 30, 2017 12:23 PM (Ri/rl)

153 *"And we have turkey. That's for the vegetarians." LOL.* Sounds right.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:23 PM (GjTLE)

154 Grilling sausages. From their pens the puppies watch with unalloyed interest. I ponder: perhaps we are reenacting the great meeting of human and canine. Except I take the whole lot inside. "Eat smoke, Borzoi!"

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 30, 2017 12:25 PM (a996v)

155 It does rock. The wrap itself is mostly well beaten egg yolk with Madeira, nutmeg, salt and white pepper, folded into beaten egg whites and then spread onto a baking sheet and baked into a kind of light, almost souffle like substance. The original recipe adds a couple of tbsps of flour, but I have a gluten intolerant guest coming who would love this, so I've been playing with it to see if the flour is really necessary. It isn't. The filling is morels and button mushrooms, garlic, diced ham, parsley, more Madeira, leeks, cream and a little cream cheese. Spread on base layer, roll up and slice. Never not a hit. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 30, 2017 05:14 PM (BdD6T) That sounds delicious.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 30, 2017 12:26 PM (Ri/rl)

156 Miley, error message when I click. I'm interested. Where are you moving to?

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 05:20 PM (CNHr1)


Look at the bottom line next to 404 and you'll see my addy.


I'm looking into Pensacola, so if there's anyone who has information that would be useful, I'd appreciate it!


Probably spring of 2018.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:26 PM (tHwdc)

157 Yes, please! I'll have to wait for a time when my lactose-intolerant girls are gone, but it sounds delicious.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 05:20 PM


On the way.  It's embedded in a list of brunch recipes with some notes.  The pineapple "souffle" is always a huge hit, along with the duck hash.  Enjoy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 30, 2017 12:27 PM (BdD6T)

158 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 30, 2017 05:26 PM (tHwdc) --------- Nice beaches!

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 12:28 PM (Sfs6o)

159 Used a mango-chipotle salad dressing as a base for beef fajitas today. Added Bolner's fajita seasoning, worcheshstire sauce, and a bit of mesquite liquid smoke. Sit for 24 hrs. I t was really good. $1.19 for the salad dressing at ALDI. Economical.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2017 12:29 PM (89T5c)

160 Low cholesterol diet is debateable for adjlts, maybe, but in children it is not sane. It is a vital component in the development of the nervous system and brain barrier and ultimately protects against bugs and virus and all the nasties kids are exposed too. How many five year olds with heart disease are there? One thing I've noticed, dietary fads come and go. If you stick around long enough, you'll see a book written about it again. They'll just call it something different. "The Drinking Man's Diet" was discussed in an old newspaper article I was reading for something else. It mimic'd some wacked out diet popular a few years ago.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 30, 2017 12:30 PM (fE9nD)

161 Nice beaches!

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 05:28 PM (Sfs6o)



I want no snow, prefer someplace not far from the ocean (or the Gulf), with a lower COL than NoVA (almost everywhere is cheaper than here, so that's not a stretch).

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:30 PM (tHwdc)

162 Look at the bottom line next to 404 and you'll see my addy. I'm looking into Pensacola, so if there's anyone who has information that would be useful, I'd appreciate it! Probably spring of 2018. Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 30, 2017 05:26 PM (tHwdc) My husband was born there. I think his dad was in flight school there. My husband doesn't remember living there though.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 30, 2017 12:30 PM (Ri/rl)

163 158 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 30, 2017 05:26 PM (tHwdc) --------- Nice beaches! Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2017 05:28 PM (Sfs6o) **** I tried that line in Tampa once. Got slapped for my trouble.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 30, 2017 12:30 PM (WTo7q)

164 It would not be a surprise if "organic" foods actually did more damage than good.  The E coli outbreaks from infected lettuce is one example.  The food chemicals were developed to make food safer, to overcome problems in distribution chains where rot or disease could make food unsafe.  Avoiding those (well-studied and safe) chemicals means additional safety procedures must be followed.

Red Dye #9 (or whatever) is just for looks, but even presentation of food can be helpful to get those salivary glands doing their job.  Telling oneself those blemishes on the apple mean it is healthy requires delusional thinking.  What else has been hiding and growing in those bad spots?

But I still like the "buy local" concept, mostly from a "support your local economy" point of view.  I just wish the commie "sustainability" turkeys would leave their politics out of the farmers markets (and out of everything else they invade and co-opt).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 30, 2017 12:31 PM (TmCOq)

165 Still not working Miley. Maybe it's me...

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 12:31 PM (CNHr1)

166 Still not working Miley. Maybe it's me...

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 05:31 PM (CNHr1)


Use the hooya thingy with tp4evr

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:32 PM (tHwdc)

167 All of the Redneck Riviera is nice. Check out Gulf Shores, Miley. It's just a bit west of Pensacola.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2017 12:33 PM (9q7Dl)

168 I made red eye gravy yesterday. From a 10 pound spiral sliced ham, after slow roasting it for 4 hours I got 3 pounds of sliced tender ham, 2 pounds of chunk ham, 2 pounds of meaty bone, 1 pound of fat trimmings and rind to toss, and 2 pounds (one quart) of drippings.
 
Put the drippings in a large sauce pan, heat to a simmer and reduce the volume by about 1/2, driving off most of the water. Add 2-3 tablespoons of flour, slowly while stirring; allow to cook for another 10 minutes. Add 2 teaspoons of sugar and 2 beef bullion cubes.
 
Finally, add 1 cup of brewed coffee while stirring. It came out pretty salty, but was quite acceptable on top of the ham and mashed taters. Not bad for a first effort.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at April 30, 2017 12:33 PM (wTwJ2)

169 OMG I bow down before Manny and his liquor closet. I'd say it qualifies as a tourist attraction

Posted by: Tuna at April 30, 2017 12:34 PM (jm1YL)

170 On the way. It's embedded in a list of brunch recipes with some notes. The pineapple "souffle" is always a huge hit, along with the duck hash. Enjoy. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 30, 2017 05:27 PM (BdD6T) --------- Wow, that all sounds awesome. I can't wait to see.

Posted by: bluebell at April 30, 2017 12:34 PM (sBOL1)

171 Posted by: illiniwek at April 30, 2017 05:31 PM (TmCOq) The E. coli outbreaks were organic leafy greens. Food safety is very important. Especially with leafy greens. One that I know of was from wild pigs in the field. I doubt it being organically grown had anything to do with it. My husband is suspicious that one outbreak at Taco Bell was from the employees not washing their hands. The farmers were blamed. I think it was cilantro or parsley.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 30, 2017 12:36 PM (Ri/rl)

172 Never mind Miley, I figured it out. Will send you an email.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at April 30, 2017 12:36 PM (CNHr1)

173 Nobody can look at that head of broccoli or tuna steak or apple or carton of milk and discern the relative danger inherent in its consumption, You can just look at broccoli and tell that it's going to taste like shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 30, 2017 12:43 PM (zc3Db)

174 My response to folks who fear produce because "OMG pesticides" or bread, pasta, rice etc because "omg GMO, evil Monsanto" or "carbs are death", is TeeHeeHee more for me.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 30, 2017 12:46 PM (8qFZP)

175 Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kohlrabi and Kale are genetically identical. True Fact.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 30, 2017 12:47 PM (fE9nD)

176 Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kohlrabi and Kale are genetically identical. True Fact. Posted by: Common Tater at April 30, 2017 05:47 PM (fE9nD) And Joe Biden, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 30, 2017 12:47 PM (zc3Db)

177 I'm looking into Pensacola, so if there's anyone who has information that would be useful, I'd appreciate it! Probably spring of 2018. Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 30, 2017 05:26 PM (tHwdc) We lived in Niceville, FL for three years. Our kids hated it, but hubby and I thought it was okay. I don't know if you have kids in school, but Niceville had two of the top schools in Florida- Collegiate High School, which was a charter school at the local college, and was number 1, and Niceville High School (where my kids went) that was number two, and then number 5 during the time we were there. The problem with the Emerald Coast is cost-the prices for houses in good neighborhoods are not that much cheaper than here in NoVA. Although there is no state income tax, you make up for it with the car tax when you register your vehicles (prepare for about a 1000 per car, especially if they are late model) and insurance. USAA doesn't directly insure there, they go through third parties. You don't have seasons, but you have green a good 10 months of the year. Cost of living is a little less, but not all that much. But....it is much more conservative there than here. With all the military in the area, and none of the other federal types, it's pretty red. That makes it nice. Plus Pensacola puts on a nice Mardi Gras.

Posted by: moki at April 30, 2017 12:48 PM (V+V48)

178 Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kohlrabi and Kale are genetically identical. True Fact. Posted by: Common Tater at April 30, 2017 05:47 PM (fE9nD) Some crazy bastards crossed kale with brussels sprouts, and it's actually pretty tasty. It's called "Kalettes" for now, because they still have a patent on the hybrid. Those wily Brassicaceae!

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 12:49 PM (8nWyX)

179 Thx CaliGirl ... I had forgotten details, but it happened a few times iirc.  A large operation like yours can do it right ... has to do it right.  But I think many small growers want that organic label and can cut corners, though I don't know of specific examples.  And I'm not even sure if non-organic leafy greens get any chemical treatment anyway.

Another example of FDA raids was with some of the dairy operations.  "Farmegeddon" was a documentary that showed raids where a bunch of cheese was tossed.  It made the FDA look bad, but the whole "organic milk" thing is another area of conflict.  "Raw milk" was always fine around the farm, but again, transporting and storing it gets more complicated.  Homogonizingsolved some issues ... not sure "raw" has any real magic qualities.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 30, 2017 12:49 PM (TmCOq)

180 "REFORGER 1976" Ah, I remember it well...

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 30, 2017 12:50 PM (97XyN)

181 171. Your husband has got to be right that it was an employee lack of sanitation because I don't believe Parsley or Cilantro can even be found at Taco Bell. Even if they were blaming the lettuce I'd have to see some proof that the only customers that got sick had eaten something with lettuce.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 30, 2017 12:51 PM (8qFZP)

182 You can't call it "authentic Mexican cuisine" unless it's full of E. Coli.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 30, 2017 12:52 PM (zc3Db)

183 splendid bars

Posted by: concrete girl at April 30, 2017 12:56 PM (HmYuA)

184 But....it is much more conservative there than here. With all the military in the area, and none of the other federal types, it's pretty red. That makes it nice. Plus Pensacola puts on a nice Mardi Gras.

Posted by: moki at April 30, 2017 05:48 PM (V+V4


All useful info, moki, and thanks!  No kids, not interested in a "good" neighborhood or even buying property - renting in a shabby but somewhat genteel area is fine with me, as long as the crime isn't bad. 

Regarding vehicles, sorry to hear that USAA doesn't insure directly there, since I'm a long-time member.  My car is a 2005, hopefully it won't cost a fortune to register!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 30, 2017 12:57 PM (tHwdc)

185 When I had my bar we always used "Beer Clean" products so our glassware was properly cleaned. I've know about how disgusting most bars are for almost 29 years........

Posted by: lindarose at April 30, 2017 12:57 PM (kufk0)

186 You had a bar Linda?

Posted by: PaleRider at April 30, 2017 01:00 PM (8qFZP)

187 I'm looking into Pensacola If you don't require actually beaches, look at the eastern shore area of Mobile Bay. Fairhope, Daphne and Spanish Fort.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 30, 2017 01:01 PM (LTHVh)

188 My response to folks who fear produce because "OMG pesticides" or bread, pasta, rice etc because "omg GMO, evil Monsanto" or "carbs are death", is TeeHeeHee more for me. Posted by: PaleRider at April 30, 2017 05:46 PM (8qFZP) Yup......I eat it all. Dropped, old, left open too long, six months past "date" on the package. Pesticides? GMO? Carbs? Eat it all. Sometimes I get some extra time on the thunder bucket, sometimes not. I figure what I ingest and egress only makes me more immune.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 30, 2017 01:04 PM (5VlCp)

189 My response to folks who fear produce because "OMG pesticides" or bread, pasta, rice etc because "omg GMO, evil Monsanto" or "carbs are death", is TeeHeeHee more for me.

I have a friend who is all about the GMO/Monsanto "threat". He's otherwise quite reasonable on most other topics. I can't debate this one with him as I don't know nearly enough about it.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2017 01:06 PM (Tyii7)

190 If you don't require actually beaches, look at the eastern shore area of Mobile Bay. Fairhope, Daphne and Spanish Fort.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 30, 2017 06:01 PM (LTHVh)


Thanks Grump!  I'd kind of like to be able to lie on an actual beach.  But I'll also need a job of some kind.  Nothing anywhere near spectacular, but work.  Can't retire just yet.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 30, 2017 01:06 PM (tHwdc)

191 E. coli no. E. plebnista yes.

Posted by: Cloud William at April 30, 2017 01:06 PM (IqV8l)

192 Any one had any experience w/collard green coleslaw? I'm really not familiar w/the green itself, weather it needs to be cooked etc. Any insight would be appreciated.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 30, 2017 01:06 PM (ty7RM)

193 "If you don't require actually beaches, look at the eastern shore area of Mobile Bay. Fairhope, Daphne and Spanish Fort." I approve of this comment. Very nice area. If I would have a 2nd home it would be in Gulfshores area. Gets crazy around spring break time, but that's OK, I just stay on the patio with my binoculars.

Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2017 01:10 PM (w7KSn)

194 I get very impatient with the militant anti-GMO folks. I keep thinking of something like Golden Rice that easily and efficiently saved a mess of lives in those poor third world countries those same dillweeds claim to love so much. Sigh.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 30, 2017 01:15 PM (2VN2E)

195 Just got home from a trip to Wally World. There is no doubt that many people are genuinely obese. Their carts are packed to the brim, almost as if they are on a mission to eat as much as possible. I, too, love food, but it's enough to stand back and say "whoa", what is going on here? You used to see really overweight people occasionally, now it seems they are everywhere.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 30, 2017 01:17 PM (geBE9)

196 Last good meal I had was a cold crab cocktail...company was good also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2017 01:17 PM (SjImc)

197
1 poison customers
2 ?????
3 profit
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 30, 2017 05:23 PM


The Russians have hacked and released our most Secret Recipe!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DNC[/i] at April 30, 2017 01:18 PM (DMUuz)

198 176 Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kohlrabi and Kale are genetically identical. True Fact. Posted by: Common Tater at April 30, 2017 05:47 PM (fE9nD) And Joe Biden, too. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 30, 2017 05:47 PM (zc3Db) LOL I've read that fresh, un-homogenized milk and cream makes the best ice cream. I dunno. I'm no health nut, but I like fresh good quality stuff, no fake shit, please. Ice Cream is one of those simple things that shouldn't be complicated. No seaweed derivatives, preservatives and guar gum needed, thanks. Milk, cream, cane sugar, and vanilla. Everything else needed for toppings. Maple Syrup is another. Corn syrup need not apply.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 30, 2017 01:18 PM (fE9nD)

199 Brave Sir Robin at April 30, 2017 06:06 PM

If you are brave and are into chewy, collard coleslaw might be OK.  Then again I have made coleslaw with baby Siberian kale. 

Regular kale (different species) is "massaged" in marinade by some folks who are really dedicated to healthy salads. 

I think collards are usually eaten cooked. 

Posted by: KT at April 30, 2017 01:20 PM (qahv/)

200 nood pie

Posted by: m at April 30, 2017 01:22 PM (Gqgs8)

201 Portuguese kale is a lot like a non-heading cabbage with big midribs.  Doesn't really resemble other kales much. 

Used in a famous Portuguese soup, 

Posted by: KT at April 30, 2017 01:24 PM (qahv/)

202 It used to be possible to get pasteurized, but unhomogenized, milk. 

Posted by: KT at April 30, 2017 01:26 PM (qahv/)

203 Yup......I eat it all. Dropped, old, left open too long, six months past "date" on the package. Pesticides? GMO? Carbs? Eat it all. Sometimes I get some extra time on the thunder bucket, sometimes not. I figure what I ingest and egress only makes me more immune. Posted by: Hairyback Guy ===== You left out roadkill, and whatever the cat drags in.

Posted by: Anon at April 30, 2017 01:27 PM (pIW4p)

204 You used to see really overweight people occasionally, now it seems they are everywhere.

I was out on a ride today and stopped by a park to check on my bike, as the rocker boxes are starting to leak a bit. The place was packed with young families and I was absolutely astounded at the number of obese young mothers. I'm not talking after-baby fat - I'm talking yuuuuge. Sad. 

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2017 01:27 PM (Tyii7)

205 willowed again

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2017 01:28 PM (Tyii7)

206 I was out on a ride today and stopped by a park to check on my bike, as the rocker boxes are starting to leak a bit. Posted by: Notorious BFD ------------- BMW?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 30, 2017 01:30 PM (ZO497)

207 BMW?

No, Harley. Nine years old and never leaked but gaskets don't last forever. Ugh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2017 01:33 PM (Tyii7)

208 No, Harley. Posted by: Notorious BFD ------------- So, feature. *ducks*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 30, 2017 01:43 PM (ZO497)

209 Heh. I know the rep. Seriously, mine's been just a gem the whole time I've had it. No major repairs at all. *knocks on wood*

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2017 01:49 PM (Tyii7)

210 Not getting the cilantro chicken recipe. If: " expect to use about the same volume of olive oil as the rest of the blended ingredients", then: How many ounces of marinade per pound of chicken? I'm a big cilantro fan, so I'm very interested in this one.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at April 30, 2017 01:51 PM (611Lm)

211 Used in a famous Portuguese soup, Posted by: KT at April 30, 2017 06:24 PM (qahv/) Sopa. I'm half Portuguese. I love the bread more than the sopa.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 30, 2017 02:00 PM (Ri/rl)

212 I said "homoginizing made it safer", but I meant pasteurizing. duh

As a kid I recall getting milk on the porch from the milkman, and it had some cream on the top.  Leave him a note and he'd leave bread too.

That might make a nice venture for someone, delivering their local produce to the door, and maybe milk/eggs or whatever.  Get a garage code and put it right in the garage frig, and/or give a half hour notice email and gps tracking so they could be ready.   Meals on wheels for the not so needy.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 30, 2017 02:19 PM (TmCOq)

213 "Just call it goulash, no worries.
"This chili is terrible"
"Ain't chili, it's goulash"
"Oh, it's pretty good then"

Posted by: hogmartin at April 30, 2017 05:21 PM (8nWyX)"


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Snort!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 30, 2017 02:33 PM (cOHS7)

214 CaliGirl,

Are any of your men folk Vistadores?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 30, 2017 02:38 PM (cOHS7)

215 "Now that the hot weather is arriving..." Really? Must be nice. Don't complain, it was 8F overnight at my place. God damn mountains.

Posted by: Fletch at April 30, 2017 03:25 PM (URsvb)

216 Tonight was Chili Night, and like all pseudo-Texans I like to brag about my chili recipe. This one had five different capsicum varieties in it: dried anchos, finely ground; crushed red pepper; paprika; diced red bell pepper; and the diced green chilis that came in the cans of tomatoes-and-green-chilis. My big deal secret ingredients are a quarter-cup of masa flour (that's masa as in corn, not matzoh) for thickening, and a tablespoon of unsweetened cocoa powder. Sadly I forgot to pick up some beer to drink with my chili.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 30, 2017 03:28 PM (gIyP7)

217 Fava bean, similar to lima or butter bean. Need only liver Mrare and a proper Chianti such as a badia a coltibuono . Perfection

Posted by: Hannibal at April 30, 2017 03:34 PM (p0TaU)

218 Regarding liquor cabinets: My children are adults, I have no excuse. The worst shelf of the poorest farmer in Peloponnese has a better liquor cabinet than I. Unlike Achilles, I have a choice and I promise to have a real liquor cabinet in 2017. Without the Jagermeister. But with some palinka, Unicum and Becherovka from recent Central Europe wanderings.

Posted by: Joe Mack at April 30, 2017 03:58 PM (3hIZX)

219 214 CaliGirl, Are any of your men folk Vistadores? Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 30, 2017 07:38 PM (cOHS7) Some were. I have a lot of friends that go on the vaquero ride. Some of my friends kids work the camps.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 30, 2017 04:07 PM (Ri/rl)

220 Not sure about that mayo chemical explanation. The problem isn't oil and water, it' oil and egg--it's very difficult to incorporate oil (or butter--see hollandaise sauce) into an egg yolk without the yolk "breaking"--if this ever happens to you, you won't forget it anytime soon and the only cure is to throw the whole thing out and start over. I digress. Getting the egg to stabilize is crucial and that's the reason for the acid--usually lemon but commercial mayo uses vinegar unabashedly.

Posted by: temple at April 30, 2017 09:39 PM (XWswf)

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