October 31, 2008

Drudge: Zogby Says McCain In Lead By 1 point. Surging Among NASCAR Fans, Blue Collar Workers And Men
— DrewM

Actually that sounds like one big group but whatever.

Zogby scares me because he's either right or just making shit up and you never know which. But hey 80 something hours out from Election Day, let's take it.

Here's a link to Gabe's post from earlier today about how you can help GOTV from home.

Let's drag McCain's ass over the finish line.

I have to admit I voted absentee yesterday. I swallowed hard and did something I never thought I would...I voted for John McCain. I felt very dirty and not the good kind but it had to be done.

Posted by: DrewM at 05:20 PM | Comments (430)
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1 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Johnny Jumble at October 31, 2008 05:22 PM (avUQz)

Posted by: Milesdei at October 31, 2008 05:22 PM (ACHxk)

3 Maybe people are seeing the light. I will pray like crazy for that to happen.

Posted by: spypeach at October 31, 2008 05:22 PM (QwWKI)

4 "Let's drag McCain's ass over the finish line."

Now that's a motivating war cry if there ever was one. Hoo yah!

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 05:22 PM (hawOV)

5

Never trust Zogby. Never. Not when ahead. Not when behind.

That said, this does eliminate the inevitability meme. Big time. Just because you can never trust Zogby, doesn't mean you can't use him.

Posted by: Lee at October 31, 2008 05:23 PM (Xb3DR)

6 I think you can trust this one.  Zogby is the biggest pussy of all the pollsters.  He wants to be the one that showed a McCain "Comeback" first.  He's not waiting for the rest of them to do it.  It's Friday night before the election and he knew it was the right time to strike for his reputation. 

The other pollsters are pissed, right now.

Posted by: Editor at October 31, 2008 05:23 PM (p4YSL)

7 We will crush their spirits. We will dance in the light of their burning citadels and to the wailing of their women. Blow me, Kos. Blow me slowly and with feeling.

Posted by: Milesdei at October 31, 2008 05:24 PM (ACHxk)

8 People often discount Zogby, but he's pretty accurate. He (John Zogby) incorrectly predicted the '04 election, yes. But his polling company actually got it right. Zogby, according to SurveyUSA, is more accurate than Gallup.

Anyone ever feel like we're pulling McCain to election day in a Red Flyer Wagon? The old dude sitting there in his PJs with his arms crossed.

Posted by: Benson at October 31, 2008 05:25 PM (qzcNU)

9 What do I do with my Obama victory gear that I just bought?

Posted by: Peggy Noonan at October 31, 2008 05:25 PM (HAdov)

10

"I felt very dirty"

the things one has to do to at least keep some forms of Freedom alive in this nation.

Posted by: Spank That Donkey at October 31, 2008 05:25 PM (2NDCv)

11

did you see the media getting dissed by Obama in Chicago?

http://tinyurl.com/6jthxm

Wonder if he wanted to bring his kids back to Ayers house for the night?

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 05:26 PM (j5MnB)

12 If we do pull this out, heads are going to explode like in a Troma flick. There will be pieces of watermelon brain everywhere!

Posted by: Lee at October 31, 2008 05:27 PM (Xb3DR)

13 I swallowed hard and did something I never thought I would...I voted for John McCain.

Lots of us are, Drew.  Lots of us are.

Posted by: Editor at October 31, 2008 05:28 PM (p4YSL)

14 I felt very dirty and not the good kind but it had to be done.

Drew, if it helps, that only cements your position as my favorite.

Posted by: alexthechick at October 31, 2008 05:28 PM (zXJGz)

15

Why do I have this feeling that kos, du, and hp nutter are going to come here to try to depress us?

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 05:28 PM (qSqPf)

16 Always remember - your vote for McCain, no matter how distasteful, is also a vote for Palin and, most importantly, against Obamamania and the MSM.

Do what you have to do... regardless of what magic bean count Zogby pulls out of his asshat.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 31, 2008 05:29 PM (sI5Ho)

17 As Drudge asked earlier this week: Could they all be wrong?

Of-f***ing-course!  You think the newsrooms are trying to influence the election in every aspect but one?  I want to call those of you "Eeyores" as Treacher does, but I don't know if there are any genuine Eeyores or just Mobys.

Posted by: Z Ryan at October 31, 2008 05:29 PM (PDeVA)

18 Doing the happy dance!

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 05:29 PM (9Wv2j)

19

THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!

 

PUMAS, ATTACK!!!!!!

Posted by: United States of America at October 31, 2008 05:29 PM (D0L4x)

20 "Why do I have this feeling that kos, du, and hp nutter are going to come here to try to depress us?"

Laugh at them, because they'll be coming here pre-depressed.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 05:29 PM (hawOV)

21 As Drudge asked earlier this week: Could they all be wrong?

Of-f***ing-course!

Think Drudge knew something at the time? I do.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 05:30 PM (hawOV)

22 I'll drink to that.

Posted by: Swegin at October 31, 2008 05:31 PM (q0Z3p)

23 I hope you peeps are watching the Greta interview of Gov. Palin.   Far and away  the most interesting interview one seen of Palin.  Kinda had a "reality tv" vibe to the uncut nature.

Posted by: smapty at October 31, 2008 05:31 PM (6F7lQ)

24

*Loading up the Glock and sharpening the knives*

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 05:31 PM (qSqPf)

25 Zogby was horrendously wrong 4 years ago.  He was predicting a huge win by GWB and then, at the last minute, he changed his opinion and predicted a Kerry victory.

Honestly I don't trust the polls this year at all.  None of them.  And, since the BO supporters are way too calm.  Insisting that he WILL WIN NO MATTER WHAT, people are starting to believe them.   Someone in the food store today told me that they "weren't  going to bother to vote because the BO supporters she knows have convinced her that they will win in any way possible"  She shut me down by saying "under those circumstances, my vote won't matter."  I persisted and she finally said "well you know there are going to be problems with the voting and this time it will be the democrats getting their due."   I figured I'd relay the conversation because it so frustrated me to speak with this woman today.

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 05:31 PM (zplc6)

26 first!

... to note the flaming skull and red headline.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 05:31 PM (hawOV)

27  We've got no idea where the f'in truth lies right now. No idea at all. Zogby's poll is probably as unreliable as all the rest of them.

However, after having said that, this poll, right or wrong, is a great and good thing, because it crashes directly into the middle of the Obama coronation parade.  It smashes up his whole "inevitability" argument and gives his opponents a reason to pour it on over the next four days.

Also, most of us who are supporting McCain are emotionally prepared for defeat, even as we soldier on, but the people over at Kos, aren't prepared. 

Emotionally unstable at the best of times, the lefty blogs are about to go apeshit.  Should be fun to take a look over there sometime tomorrow.

Posted by: DelD at October 31, 2008 05:32 PM (Yw/4J)

28

Laugh at them, because they'll be coming here pre-depressed.

Its fun to play with them. Like a cat with a mouse.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 05:32 PM (qSqPf)

29 hey, what are the strings of characters in  parentheses?  Like this: (qSqPf)?

Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at October 31, 2008 05:32 PM (Ihk12)

30 Hat tip 19 We are the spartans against the barbarian horde, except this time, our spear will hit it's target. This is a Flaming Skull alert!

Posted by: watchdog at October 31, 2008 05:32 PM (yCbBv)

31 Accurate or not it'll do for Psy-Ops.

The foot's on the other hand now!

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at October 31, 2008 05:33 PM (Ulsfn)

32 What does this mean?

Fight harder.  Never give up.  Never surrender.

Posted by: Harry Callahan at October 31, 2008 05:33 PM (Gd85U)

33 Drag his Ass! Drag his Ass! Come on, people this is dragging we can believe in!

Posted by: mare at October 31, 2008 05:33 PM (X1fsj)

34 All the polls are pig doots, but Zogby is certainly no worse than any of the others.  And with a realistic sample this is probably (though the pollster have screwed the pooch so badly no one can tell for sure) pretty close to right.  Though no, you shouldn't trust Zogby (or this year) any of the others, either.  Keep working, be of good cheer and you will win.

Posted by: The Obvious at October 31, 2008 05:33 PM (1g+FW)

35 Now that's a motivating war cry if there ever was one.

Country First. (Sounds like a savings bank.) We'll do it for Sarah - Ronald Reagan and Maggy Thatcher's secret love child.

Posted by: lmg at October 31, 2008 05:33 PM (A/vgC)

36 Drag McCain. Investigate ACORN/FANNIE/FREDDIE/RAINES/DODD/FRANK. Put Fred in charge. Gear up for 2010. Watch Dems unravel and become 2 separate parties. Hard Left and "CENTRIST". Mark my words. If Obama wins, RINO's and HILLICRATS join up. Just watch.

Posted by: Crimson Tide Guy at October 31, 2008 05:34 PM (kzCHD)

37 The accuracy of ZOGBY isn't stellar, but that's not the point. It's the NARRATIVE that is out there, with ALL THE MSM telling repub's and pumas to stay home. Just the news, even if somewhat unreliable, of a McCain surge could be a SELF FULFILLING prophecy

Posted by: watchdog at October 31, 2008 05:34 PM (yCbBv)

38

Hot Air had a link to Politico

Olbermann tried to stop rehearsal of SNL skit w/ Ben Aflack mocking him

http://tinyurl.com/6k7wk8

 

McCain to appear on SNL too apparently

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 05:34 PM (j5MnB)

39 This news is exciting but I don't want to get my hopes up. I am still going work on dragging McCain over the finish line. This is a great confidence booster.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 05:34 PM (qSqPf)

40 If McCain pulls it out, I demand a flaming douche (which in French,  just means "shower") superimposed over Obama, next to a  and a flaming skull superimposed over McCain.  GOT IT?

Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at October 31, 2008 05:35 PM (Ihk12)

41 Why I believe the polls will continue to move toward McCain.: http://americanfuture.net/?p=2896

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 31, 2008 05:35 PM (e2mBS)

42 Drew, if it helps, that only cements your position as my favorite.

alexthechick,

It helps more than you'll ever know or likely ever want to know.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 31, 2008 05:35 PM (hlYel)

43 This year the polls are just downright bizarre.

I was just looking over the polls for the last few days of the 04 election, and most seemed to be at least in the same neighborhood. This year not so much, when you've got everything from this one poll showing McCain up 1 and CBS/NYT showing Obama up eleven. Ten points of deviation is just crazy.

Posted by: Paul at October 31, 2008 05:35 PM (642J9)

44 oh.  I am always Ihk12?  guess that answers things...

Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at October 31, 2008 05:36 PM (Ihk12)

45 Christoph at 21.  I agree.

Posted by: Z Ryan at October 31, 2008 05:36 PM (PDeVA)

46 Another slogan: Vote for McCain, a bad kind of dirty!

Posted by: mare at October 31, 2008 05:36 PM (X1fsj)

47 I think McCain wins as long as cheating is kept to a minimum. My greatest fear is that the early voters will try to vote again on Tuesday. Something like that will be hard to overcome.

Posted by: spypeach at October 31, 2008 05:36 PM (QwWKI)

48 SKULL SKULL SKULL SKULL SKULL!!!!

I really really really shouldn't have had that cappucino about an hour ago. 

Posted by: alexthechick at October 31, 2008 05:37 PM (zXJGz)

49 Think of it not as a vote for McCain, but as a vote to save our beloved country. VOTE REPUBLICAN DOWN THE LINE. MCCAIN PALIN VICTORY '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 31, 2008 05:37 PM (9Cooa)

50 Zogby was horrendously wrong 4 years ago.  He was predicting a huge win by GWB and then, at the last minute, he changed his opinion and predicted a Kerry victory.

John Zogby the person predicted a Kerry win on The Daily Show. Zogby International (the firm that is conducting this poll) showed a Bush victory by one point. As I said, SurveyUSA's report card has Zogby as being more on the money than Gallup.

Posted by: Benson at October 31, 2008 05:37 PM (qzcNU)

51

I'll drink to that.

Yeah, that's something new.

Posted by: Paulitics at October 31, 2008 05:37 PM (iYguc)

52

Floofy - that, somehow, identifies us.  So if you post under 3 different names from the same computer you will still be (Ihk12).

Its a good way to out the Mobys, Astroturfers and Concerned Christian Conservatives.

Go McCain! - I would not have believed in January I would be anxious to vote for him - but its been a weird year.

Posted by: HawaiiLwyr at October 31, 2008 05:37 PM (Mt4OE)

53 Nice.

Friday night flaming skull.

Fucking awesome way to begin the weekend.

Posted by: TheAdmiral at October 31, 2008 05:38 PM (zNl33)

54 Now might be a good time to step up the pressure on the LAT to release the tape. Rats are always inclined to abandon a sinking ship.

Posted by: Milesdei at October 31, 2008 05:39 PM (ACHxk)

55 This pretty much sums it up:

http://tinyurl.com/5p3s5r

Posted by: Eephus at October 31, 2008 05:39 PM (9NvZm)

56 I'm going Trick or Treating at Kos. Be right back.

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at October 31, 2008 05:40 PM (i73Rf)

57

As always, let's have a look at the internals.

Polling has been innaccurate and all over the place so let's celebrate but still take this with a grain of salt. This is no time to let up. Let's drag McCain's ass over the finish line!!!

Posted by: t.ferg at October 31, 2008 05:40 PM (c/8+r)

58 Ahem...Drag McAmnesty across the finish line FIRST.

And we'd better!

Posted by: torabora at October 31, 2008 05:41 PM (hwcjX)

59 And we have a flaming skull! 

Blow me, Barack!!!!  Cause you're going down anyway.

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 05:41 PM (9Wv2j)

60 Now, can someone find Murtha a larger megaphone and PA is ours...

Posted by: Tom vG at October 31, 2008 05:41 PM (TRJxR)

61

From Drudge:

ZOGBY SATURDAY: McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all...

Emphasis added. You know, we asked for a miracle, and we got a plumber from Ohio. How about that?!

Posted by: Lee at October 31, 2008 05:42 PM (Xb3DR)

62 I have to admit I voted absentee yesterday. I swallowed hard and did something I never thought I would...I voted for John McCain.

Fuck, DrewM., at this point the vote is easy. I can't believe how much money ($2,300x2 for me and the wife + much more to the RNC) and time I've committed to my 4th choice (Teh Fred, Mitt, Anonymous Republican, John McCain). The Marxist alternative makes it a no-brainer, though.

Posted by: Andy at October 31, 2008 05:42 PM (B+HYX)

63 I just realized that I don't want to sound like one of those BO vampires who sucks the hope out of you.  I talked, becasue of this website, to a lot of people in the food store today and most to them were polite and nice and some even engaged me in extended conversations.  I didn't realize I would have the courage to say to strangers "I hope you will be voting" but I did and except for the woman who assumed their would be cheating and that it was a foregone conclusion that BO would win, the other people were pretty nice.

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 05:42 PM (zplc6)

64 Blow me, Barack!!!!  Cause you're going down anyway.

You said you were chick, CB. 'Sup with that?

Posted by: Milesdei at October 31, 2008 05:42 PM (ACHxk)

65 Ahhhhhhh...it's the FLAMING SKULL!!!!!!!!!............phew, I needed that....

Posted by: G.W. Bush at October 31, 2008 05:42 PM (pIvKk)

66 If McCain pulls it out, I demand a flaming douche (which in French,  just means "shower") superimposed over Obama, next to a  and a flaming skull superimposed over McCain.  GOT IT?

No, I will want to see the badass McCain pic taken by The Gay Gossip Rag/Antisemitic Conspiracy Newsletter, along with the Sarahcuda "Raising the Roof" animation.

Posted by: Jim62sch at October 31, 2008 05:43 PM (6rQXk)

67

You're a dirty bird.

 

Don't worry.  We won't kill you.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 31, 2008 05:43 PM (eiOZw)

68 FUCK YOU SENATOR GOVERNMENT

YOU CAN FOOL SOME PEOPLE ALL THE SOMETHING OR WHATEVER FUCK IM DRUNK!!!!

Posted by: Mr. Happy at October 31, 2008 05:44 PM (/YM8H)

69 Zogby's problem is that he's weirdly emotionally involved in his polling and seems to have something of an ego about it. He'll actually project winners that contradict his data because he thinks he's detected a "trend." That doesn't seem to be the case here, since this is just him relaying some numbers, but Zogby sure is a strange one.

Posted by: Paul at October 31, 2008 05:44 PM (642J9)

70

except for the woman who assumed their would be cheating and that it was a foregone conclusion that BO would win,

There is always going to be someone like that. Don't let it get to you. Forget it and move on.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 05:44 PM (qSqPf)

71 This is no time to let up. Let's drag McCain's ass over the finish line!!!

Yeah, exactly! The MSM is trying to do the exact same thing with Obama, but they're having to stop every few minutes to yell CLEAR! and shock him with the paddles.

Posted by: Jim62sch at October 31, 2008 05:46 PM (6rQXk)

72

Voting for McCain:

This year, we have a choice between Bad and Worse.  Unspeakably Worse, as a matter of fact.

Under these circumstances, I have no problem voting for Bad.

 

Posted by: tsj017 at October 31, 2008 05:46 PM (TV9JE)

73 Happy Holloween, Barry.


BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at October 31, 2008 05:48 PM (MMC8r)

74 Ginger, I am a shy person.  But the people here convinced me to do my part so, in a very jammed food store I really talked to a lot of people.  Yes, it took me way way longer than usual to do my food shopping but I'm thankful you guys pushed me.

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 05:48 PM (zplc6)

75 You said you were chick, CB. 'Sup with that?

Yeah, you're right, that was totally un-ladylike. 

Bwahahahahahahahaha!  We're gonna WIN!!!!

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 05:48 PM (9Wv2j)

76

The only knot in my stomach in the voting booth is remembering just even one baby dead in a Chicago Abortion Clinic ..... the one who died after thier birth.

Just one ... of many ... because it might be in conflict with the US Constitution?

No Backbone for an innocent child with a birthday?

No wonder he slaps around and ridicules a voter named Joe.

GK Chesterton wrote a book .. Eugenics and other Evils. He shows how Eugenics and Socialism are related, back when Margaret Sanger was pushing for a Master Race.

 

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 05:49 PM (j5MnB)

77 A few things:

1.  I think Drudge did know something earlier this week.  He called out the entire fucking media.

2.  I think Drudge is irked by that story in the Financial Times that predicted the end of his influence in pushing news.  I wouldn't want to be the campaign on the other side of Drudge in the waning days of a campaign. 

3.  The key is closing the polls enough to change the nonsense media narrative that has been driven by unreliable and unrealistic polls.  Yes, Obama probably is and has been leading, but the ridiculous "inevitability" and "preparing the transition" stuff is way over the top.  The McCain campaign needs to break through that to avoid any and all lack of enthusiasm - it needs those luke warm voters to know that they matter.

4.  We need more than this one-day Zogby sample, but if this forces the pollsters to reconsider their ridiculous party ID disparity, then it's good news.  No one wants to be the pollster that predicted a seven point Obama which turns into a three point Obama loss.

Posted by: Ryan at October 31, 2008 05:49 PM (MMxvP)

78 Well, that sucks.

Posted by: The Chief Groundskeeper of Grant Park at October 31, 2008 05:50 PM (HjPtV)

79 61

From Drudge:

ZOGBY SATURDAY: McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all...

Emphasis added. You know, we asked for a miracle, and we got a plumber from Ohio. How about that?!


I think this is pretty damn funny considering Obama's attempts to claim he's a Jewish carpenter...

Posted by: BrandonInBatonRouge at October 31, 2008 05:50 PM (U7TcP)

80 Ryan?  Wait for it, babe, it's coming . . .

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 05:50 PM (9Wv2j)

81 Voting for Palin, and damn happy about the opportunity to do so.

Posted by: Ziskey at Home at October 31, 2008 05:51 PM (baPuN)

82

Ginger, I am a shy person.

I am the same way.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 05:52 PM (qSqPf)

83

"That said, this does eliminate the inevitability meme. Big time. Just because you can never trust Zogby, doesn't mean you can't use him."

Absolutely! Wake the troops up.  We need SOME good news. BUT a Friday poll?  Don't we always under poll on weekends?

If so, our lead is bigger than we think.

GOP Trust is going to spent 6 million this weekend with a fuck you Wright-Obama commercial.

Morris thinks they will be game changers, we'll see.  Market going up also means the money folks are starting to think McC can win.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning, is smells like VICTORY!

More popcorn please!

Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at October 31, 2008 05:52 PM (60Sa7)

84 Ryan.... Re: #2....I think you got sumthin' there!

Posted by: Ad rem at October 31, 2008 05:53 PM (pIvKk)

85 48-47 McCain ...

It is fucking on.  The One and Plugs vs. The Maverick and Barracuda.

We can do this, people.  Let's roll.

Posted by: Blacksheep at October 31, 2008 05:53 PM (7h2la)

86 So, I'm confused.  Is Ginger KCLady fully mophed to Ginger?

Posted by: Editor at October 31, 2008 05:54 PM (p4YSL)

87 CB:  What's coming?  If it's a few more bombs from Drudge, I'm in...

Posted by: Ryan at October 31, 2008 05:54 PM (MMxvP)

88 ...ridiculous party ID disparity Bingo! Some are putting it at 6-10%? Bullshit!

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 05:55 PM (+WuMm)

89 Republicans and PUMAS unite!! Country First, and forever be remembered for this St Crispins Day

Posted by: ginaswo at October 31, 2008 05:56 PM (hBvl2)

90 Ryan, a bunch of us are thinking that the pollsters and the media are all in the tank and that it is a part of this finely crafted strategy.  It was a good discussion to have as a good friend of ours is now wavering on BO.  No one like to think they have been manipulated and after the conversation we all had tonight I think our friend is starting to get a little angry.

One of the guys involved in the discussion is a political strategist and another is a psychologist and the rest of us just you know regular jobs but their discussion which we all listened to and contributed to was damn right scary.  I mean they said this opening up accounts for the next campaign was all part of a strategic road map to the WH.   Just like the measuring of the drapes and the parading out of the possible cabinet members.

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 05:56 PM (zplc6)

91

So, I'm confused.  Is Ginger KCLady fully mophed to Ginger?

You are correct.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 05:57 PM (qSqPf)

92 What a way to start a weekend!

This is sweeter than any of the ton of candy my sons got tonight

Posted by: Sekhmet at October 31, 2008 05:58 PM (QiWeI)

93 On the chance that Obama wins, you better load up on guns, ammunition, and catch a NASCAR race, because he's gonna ban 'em all.

Posted by: mark at October 31, 2008 05:58 PM (j8plk)

94 Happiness lies in our destiny like a cloudless sky before the storms of tomorrow destroy the dreams of yesterday and last week.

Posted by: e.koenig at October 31, 2008 05:58 PM (2J+Vs)

95 As far as Drudge calling the media out.  I think it's possible too that he's been sent tips from people inside the polling firms that are disagreeing with their own firm's results.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at October 31, 2008 05:59 PM (8lxo4)

96 The Chief Groundskeeper of Grant Park

Dude! Think of all the sweet O/T pay you and your crew are going to be collecting.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 31, 2008 06:00 PM (JTN0y)

97 The only knot in my stomach in the voting booth is remembering just even one baby dead in a Chicago Abortion Clinic ..... the one who died after thier birth.

Well said, cromagnum. "Abortion" is way down my issues list, but infanticide isn't.

Posted by: Andy at October 31, 2008 06:00 PM (B+HYX)

98 I don't give a damn if Zogby has predicted every race wrong. A lead is a lead in any poll, and thats a win for me on this friday night..

Posted by: Mark at October 31, 2008 06:01 PM (v1SLU)

99

"Actually that sounds like one big group but whatever."  LOL! YUP! It sure does!

Listen - I think it's true -but even if it's not - it is GOLD, it's better than gold, bc just hearing those groups mentioned all weekend will mobilze and motivate all the beer-drinking hordes to go vote, I'm serious, it will. (I should know, I am part of such a family!)  It's just the right narrative to accompany these ridiculous things Obama and company are saying and doing these last few days..., they have been shooting themselves in the foot!!

Posted by: freetofly at October 31, 2008 06:01 PM (Qvtkv)

100

I would not be surprised if some of this is pushback about the Infomercial

1) people are sick of the one sided view. The MSM has been running its own informercial 24/7

2) Competition is needed to generate interest. see above

3) Unintended Consequences: I mentioned last night that I saw a Yahoo note that people started really searching about Obama's family online. This was because of the family appeal during it. Given there is little info in the MSM, that meant they were surfing the web with keywords that also hit conservative websites. Which means more of the truth got to the voters.

4) the infomercial was poor quality, alot of doom and gloom (25 minutes) and 5 minutes of solution. bad mix for informercials .... imagine 25 minutes of fat flabby abs, and 5 minutes at the end with the excercise machine. No sale, and mostly the only ones to really watch have already made thier mind up. Maybe a few of the dissapointed did #3

 

Now add to this a McCain SNL appearance .. McCain can be pretty funny, any Republican appearance boosts SNL ratings, and that might get him another point in the polls.

 

I predict McCain up by +3 on Monday night

 

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 06:01 PM (j5MnB)

101 Get out there and talk to the neighbors, This is The Weekend. These Are the Morons I thought I Knew. Happy Halloween!

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at October 31, 2008 06:01 PM (i73Rf)

102 I fully expect to start seeing this in the MSM right away. Bobby Kennedy predicted the following in 1968: "Things are moving so fast in race relations a Negro could be president in 40 years. There’s no question about it, in the next 40 years a Negro can achieve the same position that my brother has. Prejudice exists and probably will continue to, but we have tried to make progress and we are making progress. We are not going to accept the status quo." This like reading Elijah to the "60's" kids. Well I actually liked Bobby, but here's hoping he is wrong. The media are going to push this as a great moment for America. Don't worry about his socialism, just keep enjoying our better race relations.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 31, 2008 06:03 PM (e2mBS)

103 Mr. John Zogby, you betta get your act togetha.  I've got a mortgage and lifetime's worth of gas riding on this.  You're not helping me help the messiah help me.

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at October 31, 2008 06:05 PM (p4YSL)

104 Drew, you did the right thing, no matter how dirty. Good move.

Posted by: Corona at October 31, 2008 06:05 PM (pI8vF)

105 You check out the photo of Obama and his daughter running away from the camera on Drudge? Perhaps The One had to go Number Two.

Posted by: Mister Tan at October 31, 2008 06:05 PM (OSrHN)

106 "89 Republicans and PUMAS unite!! Country First, and forever be remembered for this St Crispins Day"
I love it- that speech gives me goose bumps!!!  I love the PUMAs!!     

Posted by: susanita at October 31, 2008 06:06 PM (Dw3vY)

107 locus ceruleus, even though I'm not sure Bobby Kennedy would have preferred Barack Obama to be that person, it shows just how smart Kennedy was that he nailed that prediction so well. He really seemed to understand the social and legal directions his country was going in.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 06:06 PM (hawOV)

108 Mr. Tan,

Messiah's feeling teh dread. Running from the media. "I vant to be alone..."
Fucking drama queen.

Posted by: Milesdei at October 31, 2008 06:07 PM (ACHxk)

109

Andy

Abortion/Infanticide/Euthanasia is my # 1 issue, infanticide is just easier to visualize

The difference between them: Age

The Simularity: Someone wants to play God with someone else's life for the sake of convienance or worse.

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 06:08 PM (j5MnB)

110 Here is something that I thought of earlier. You know how a lot of us are seeing more McCain signs and bumper stickers than obama signs and bumper stickers? I have seen several people comment that the obama camp charges for their signs and bumper stickers. Lets just assume that is a fact. If obama is as popular as the msm claims he is, don't you think that people would be buying obama memorabilia hands over fists? I mean come on. Look at college and professional sports, Star Wars and Hannah Montana. These things are immensely popular and  people buy buttloads of the memorabilia that these franchises make. Another thing I thought of as well. obama is claiming he is for the poor working man. Then why would he charge for his stuff when he making a shitload of money? I call bullshit on this one.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 06:08 PM (qSqPf)

111 I'm going to donate just a little more...maybe help goptrust.org with those ad spots...

Posted by: Ryan at October 31, 2008 06:08 PM (MMxvP)

112 A Gov. from the Great State of Alaska and a plumber from Ohio... That is why I love this country!

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 06:08 PM (+WuMm)

113 The makeup of this movement reported by Zogby is significant. If you go back to the leaked memo on Tuesday from Bill McIntruff (the McCain team's lead pollster), he noted a shift in non-college men, rural men/women, Right-to-lifers, "Walmart Women" (under 60k and no degree), and soft Dems. A movement of blue collar NASCAR men falls right along the same lines. Dick Morris also noted today that in the Fox News poll, McCain's gains came from voters under 45. To quote Morris: "The shift in the attitudes of young people may be directly related to the tax issue, brought home by a McCain advertisement featuring Joe the Plumber. Younger voters, trying to make their way in their careers, are more sensitive to changes in taxes than older people, many of whom has retired from the labor force. By attacking Obama for wanting to "spread the wealth around", the McCain camp seems to have struck a nerve among those who are entering the most productive years of their employment history." I hope this is a trend the other pollsters follow!

Posted by: Sean at October 31, 2008 06:08 PM (vZzYJ)

114 #102.  I don't think the Bradley effect will come into play at all in this election.  I don't think people are seeing color..  I think people are following the MLK formula of judging a person by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. 

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 06:09 PM (zplc6)

115 Have we decided what to do with the flaming gay ribbed douche?

Posted by: Bart at October 31, 2008 06:10 PM (5DHMR)

116

105 You check out the photo of Obama and his daughter running away from the camera on Drudge? Perhaps The One had to go Number Two.

I was thinking a quick getaway to Ayers for more babysitting, then a quick rendevous night with Vera .... but thats reading into a picture

Otherwise, why is he running from a fawning media?

I mean he did chase away the evil non-supporters already

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 06:10 PM (j5MnB)

117 Why the hell do you think the freakin' Marxist-socialist cabal picked a black man for this job?  Mainly because this ridiculous concept of "white guilt" actually exists among some of us and because the whole "racism" thing would be so easy to holler once he loses.

Which he will.

I would vote for a decent patriotic black man or woman NO problem.  Just not this guy.  Not now.  Not ever.

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 06:11 PM (9Wv2j)

118

105 You check out the photo of Obama and his daughter running away from the camera on Drudge? Perhaps The One had to go Number Two.

Ha, did that photo look racist to anyone but me?


Posted by: robtr at October 31, 2008 06:11 PM (C6ME0)

119 "He told the media to get back on the bus, referring to the vehicle where the traveling press pool often waits for him." from teh article@Drudge tre AP You get back on the bus Barry, carpetbagger.

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at October 31, 2008 06:12 PM (i73Rf)

120 It's good to take note of this, but still we must campaign as if we are 15 points down!  No rest 'til Wednesday!  Make the calls!  Hit the streets!

Posted by: Kensington at October 31, 2008 06:13 PM (xFNQx)

121 I would vote for a decent patriotic black man or woman NO problem.

If they run Shelby Steele, I am so there.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 31, 2008 06:14 PM (JTN0y)

122 second

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at October 31, 2008 06:14 PM (i73Rf)

123 Palin: Wrong! MCain! What is best in life?
McCain: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.

Posted by: physics geek at October 31, 2008 06:14 PM (39w/B)

124 Tuesday I'm buying the little woman and me a nice bottle of bubbly. Probably start icing it down around 5:30. I figure if McCain wins, we can toast to what amounts to victory. If he loses, we can toast to our impending re-classification in January as ultra-rich.

Posted by: Greg Griffith at October 31, 2008 06:14 PM (6cvPQ)

125

He was running away from whitey shooting at him and his family

I mean ... arent the reporters and photographers mostly white?

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 06:14 PM (j5MnB)

126 I voted early in Chicago on Thursday for McCain, don't tell Axelrod.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 31, 2008 06:14 PM (2OZH/)

127

CBS/NYT showing Obama up eleven

Zogby is just trying to salvage his credibility, and become the top pollster moving forward.  CBS/NYT is printing Axelrodturfer numbers to try to get their Lord and Savior (for their industry, there could be some truth in that) into the Oval Office.

Rudy G is going to be in Henderson, NV at the McCain/Palin campaign office!  So a good Zogby poll, and I get to meet Rudy G!  It's gonna be a great 24 hours. 

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 06:15 PM (xyyHG)

128 I'd kill to have Thomas Sowell in the White House.  Too bad he's too smart for that crap.

And, Kensington, you nailed it -- still we must campaign as if we are 15 points down!  No rest 'til Wednesday!  Make the calls!  Hit the streets!

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 06:15 PM (9Wv2j)

129

That one group Dick Morris has been promoting either has spent, or will spend another 6 million on Wright ads in battleground states. I don't know exactly when they kicked into gear, or when they will take full effect, but this coupled with all of the other issues brought up by McCain and Palin that are supposidly irrelevant, may just be working despite what the media has been saying. Imagine that. I think Dick was saying earlier that this group will spend more on the one Wright ad than the entire McCain campaign. Thankyou crazy fuck, anti-semitic/whitey hating, angry douche reverand Wright.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at October 31, 2008 06:16 PM (nOQXA)

130  how does this help my children?

Posted by: michelle obama at October 31, 2008 06:16 PM (2J+Vs)

131 This looks like a good place to let you in on a little secret: I've made a special graphic image that I'll post to my image-hosting service and share with all of you (not to mention everyone at the other blogs I frequent) in the event of a McCain win four nights from now.

It's nothing particularly fancy, but is in keeping with my assertion that neither Obama nor the Dems as a party would ever be able to live down the shame of a loss.

Posted by: Joshua at October 31, 2008 06:16 PM (6LFuL)

132 Perhaps the jumper on Drudge got the tip first...

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 31, 2008 06:17 PM (KyqYb)

133  how does this help my children?

They may get to spend a lot more time with their dad than they would if he wins?

Posted by: DrewM. at October 31, 2008 06:18 PM (hlYel)

134 120 It's good to take note of this, but still we must campaign as if we are 15 points down!  No rest 'til Wednesday!  Make the calls!  Hit the streets!

Posted by: Kensington at October 31, 2008 11:13 PM (xFNQx)

yep

Nevada morons, come see Rudy G at McCain/Palin headquarters tomorrow, around 2 PM.  yay!

And maybe somebody can talk me into knocking on doors--the daughter and I did the call center today, and it was easy.  Knocking on doors--seems kinda scary.

 

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 06:18 PM (xyyHG)

135 I'd kill to have Thomas Sowell in the White House.

Yep. The man is friggin' brilliant. He actually came to mind before Shelby Steele, but sadly Sowell is a little too old now.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 31, 2008 06:19 PM (JTN0y)

136 Funky,

As I understand it, door-to-door canvassers are directed specifically to the homes of Republican voters.  It's not just random cold canvassing.  That should make things easier, I hope.

Posted by: Kensington at October 31, 2008 06:22 PM (xFNQx)

137 #114 - Oh, I don't think there is any doubt about race being a factor in the final tabulation.  I don't know if you want to call it a "Bradley effect" or not but I think it is definitely there - and it goes both ways. 

There are a goodly sum (not all blacks) that will vote for Obambi simply because he is black.  There are also a goodly sum that will vote against him simply because he is black.  There are still (unfortunately) a fairly large part of the population that is racist.  That is what is shocking me about the polls, especially this one.  Most of the racists that I know fit into the older generation.  I know some older dyed in the wool Democrats that have voted for every Democratic candidate ever since they started voting and they are not going to vote for Obambi.

I also happen to experience some of this racism first hand because my girlfriend is black.  I've lived in Indianapolis, Toledo, Cincinatti, Raleigh, and now KC and there are areas in all of those cities that are very racially divided.

It is sad to say, but I do think that race will factor into this election.

Posted by: rls at October 31, 2008 06:23 PM (k4h7p)

138

oh noes! allah will jump off a buidling w/ this positive news

...ridiculous party ID disparity

Bingo! Some are putting it at 6-10%? Bullshit!

don't tell that to allah, he needs to feed off these negative polls

Posted by: YRM at October 31, 2008 06:24 PM (004wR)

139 Party disparity. Let's suppose that there are 50% D's and 50% R's (i know it isn't). But on election day all the D's go fishing, but all the R's are jazzed to the max (or vice versa). Then the ratio actually voting is skewed accordingly. If this is true, the most accurate polls will best estimate the jazzed/fishing ratio and weight party affiliation accordingly. I think this, more than malice explains the party ID disparity  we think unfair.

This leads me to believe that each party should include a psyops component in its campaign to despirit their opponents.

Posted by: steve poling at October 31, 2008 06:24 PM (UWHTf)

140

Funky, I did door-to-door in 2004.  Keep it short and sweet.  Wasn't too bad.  Like Kensington says, you're given lists of friendlies.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at October 31, 2008 06:25 PM (8lxo4)

141 McCain will be in Springfield VA on Saturday

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 06:26 PM (j5MnB)

142 Here are the economic projections based on the tax plans of McCain versus Obama. McCain's campaign needs to start putting these charts out in ads because they show very clearly just how different the two Presidents will be for the economy. Obama's tax plan will give us much slower growth and smaller job creation than McCain's in the long run. It's time to start fighting for our economy. This Heritage Foundation study is a good place to start. The results are incredible:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/taxes/cda08-09.cfm

Posted by: James at October 31, 2008 06:26 PM (RFwAa)

143

umm Ace, with all due respect. Mac seems to be dragging YOU and other conservatives across the finish line. Doing it HIS way. Without character assasination.I believe Zogby.

Zogby said a month ago that if Obama was not up by 6-7 points it could be a landslide for McCain.

I also would trust the poll, i think it has been mac ahead for a week at least. The polls do not matter at this point anyhow.

We got this.

I am an American and I choose to fight.

Posted by: PPP at October 31, 2008 06:26 PM (zzms8)

144

I actually put out a "another democrat for McCain" yard sign.  The trick or treater parents were universally POSITIVE!  I got a couple of "we're dems too, and we voted early for McCain."

So those registered dems voting early?  Not all for Obama.  Sorry, comrades.

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 06:26 PM (xyyHG)

145 When I saw that picture of BO and his kid I thought "that poor kid, he even has to turn trick or treating into a photo op"  then I thought "boy that MO wears the pants in that family cause I would bet she ordered him home on Halloween, and it is obvious that you don't tell that woman no'  My third thought was "when he kicked those three to the curb, i guess this is the picture he gets".

Meanwhile, Sarah Palin went trick or treating in a nice town and was accompanied by the mayor of the town and it appears they took one picture and let her have her privacy.   With him it looked like the media might have been slightly curious as to whose house he was heading to.

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 06:27 PM (zplc6)

146 Look, if we have to run an African American to offset the accusations of racism, can't we run <a href=http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=5374>Charlize Theron</a>?

Posted by: Kensington at October 31, 2008 06:28 PM (xFNQx)

147 Excellent!

Posted by: t at October 31, 2008 06:28 PM (xSPT9)

148

Posted by: PPP at October 31, 2008 11:26 PM (zzms

+1

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 06:28 PM (xyyHG)

149 PPP, have I told you lately that I love you?  You've brought such good stuff to this site and it always lifts my spirits. 

From another American who chooses to fight.

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 06:29 PM (9Wv2j)

150 Just heard that Fox has it McCain 49 Obama 47. Not sure if this has been posted yet.

Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at October 31, 2008 06:29 PM (vuXJQ)

151 #142.  Is that the Heritge foundation whose attorney had to send a letter to the BO campaign asking them to cease and desist as regards a particular commercial full of untruths?

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 06:29 PM (zplc6)

152 Maybe O/T you decide: We always check my daughter's bag of candy after trick-or-treating and pick out what she can keep and what goes with me to the office on Monday (don't want her to have too much candy). Anyway, one piece was Jolly Rancher (she hates those) an it went into the office bag. Then, tears of joy filled my eyes as she said, "probably from that house with the Obama sign."

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 06:30 PM (+WuMm)

153 PPP, you may have a point.  some of us may well owe McCain an apology come Tuesday evening if he pulls this off, and if that's the case, I'll do so gladly and humbly.

Posted by: Kensington at October 31, 2008 06:31 PM (xFNQx)

154 Too bad for me that national polls mean jack shite. Drudge has a long road to go to influence the battlegrounds with this nonsense.

Thanks anyway Matt!

your friend.
JSM

Posted by: Mccain at October 31, 2008 06:32 PM (vUD/3)

155 If McCain pulls this off, there are gonna be some really distraught people.

“Look, I have this sense of impending doom; we’ve had a couple of elections stolen already,” Mr. Downs said. “The only thing worse than losing is to think that you’re going to win and then lose.”

LOL

Posted by: Bilby at October 31, 2008 06:32 PM (8iDn7)

156 Posted by: PPP at October 31, 2008 11:26 PM (zzms

FYI...it was me not Ace who wrote that. Not a big deal, I just don't want him getting snarked at for something he didn't write.

More importantly, win or lose come back here on Wednesday and let's have that fight.  It's not important right now but trust me this is no time to be crowing about how McCain is dragging conservatives across the line. Please.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 31, 2008 06:33 PM (hlYel)

157 Its fun to play with them. Like a cat with a mouse.

The proper technique is to bite through their necks before batting them around.

Posted by: lmg at October 31, 2008 06:33 PM (A/vgC)

158 Kensington, McCain wouldn't want anyone's apology.  All he wants is Truth, Justice and The American Way. 

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 06:34 PM (9Wv2j)

159 Holy crap, I just saw the GOP Trust's Rev. Wright ad.  In California!  God damn, America, it's ON!

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 06:36 PM (9Wv2j)

160 Anybody read the article in london telegraph about an editor that has been with Barack over the last two years? The last two paragraphs are priceless.: Yet if Obama is elected to the White House on Tuesday, it will still be a huge leap of faith by Americans. The young senator speaks wonderfully, is likeable and engaging, but has no experience of running anything other than his own presidential campaign. For all his protestations that it is "about you, not me", Obama's candidacy has been principally about his fascinating biography, its contours crafted by him and jealously protected by an apparatus that will brook no deviation from the authorised version. He has been an extraordinary candidate, running a brilliantly conceived and flawlessly executed campaign. I've been following his every move for nearly two years. But if the journey does end with him taking the oath of office on the steps of the Capitol on January 20, I have almost no idea of the kind of president Barack Obama will be.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 31, 2008 06:36 PM (e2mBS)

161 cromagnum at October 31, 2008 11:08 PM (j5MnB)

I'm a fiscal/FP conservative, but I agree with you in principle. The reason why it's way down my list is that the abortion issue shouldn't be a federal issue at all (what with Roe v. Wade being judicial activism at its worst.).

But I don't need an abortion litmus test for justices. A statement about their beliefs on what they think the second amendment means is enough. Right to own guns = constitutional; Right to abortion = not.

Posted by: Andy at October 31, 2008 06:36 PM (B+HYX)

162

#150 - Where did you hear that from?

 

Posted by: phoenixrisen at October 31, 2008 06:36 PM (jWGRd)

163 Matt drudge deserves a little heat.  I remember the days when he was the go to place for news, and he was on it before anyone else.  Now, he doesn't work weekends anymore and I for one can't get used to seeing druge not chnge from morning till night.   I'm used to checking him a lot and now I'm stating to look at other sites.   If he wants to survive he is going to have to go back to the matt drudge we all know.   I think he has changed since he had his show end.

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 06:37 PM (zplc6)

164

Leno just said:

I had two kids come to my house, one dressed as Mickey Mouse, the other as an Acorn Volunteer, trying to register the other one.

LOL

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 06:38 PM (j5MnB)

165 FWIW - my ex said today he voted for McCain.  This man hasn't voted for a Republican in his 59 years of life, but he did so this week. His family has been democrats for generations. That has GOT to be a sign.  And, there's not a racist bone in his body, so don't say that's the reason.

Posted by: me at October 31, 2008 06:39 PM (c3H+i)

166 A drowning man will reach for anything to pull him out of the water, as is indicated by the fact that you are pinning your hopes on this one, inaccurate poll.  Go to fivethirtyeight.com and see what non-partisan pollsters say about this poll.  Don't get your hopes up too much, it appears they will be dashed.

It looks like you will see the next two years with a super-majority of Democrats in Congress, and a Democratic President.  It will probably be so bad that we have huge growth in employment, gdp and an increase in membership in the middle class as almost always seems to happen when Democrats run things.

But don't lose all hope; you will still be able to bitch and moan about the state of the world, which seems to be the thing that conservatives are best at.

Posted by: hoosierbrad at October 31, 2008 06:40 PM (y/JJL)

167 Let's do this shit!!!!!

Posted by: yomomma at October 31, 2008 06:40 PM (FnSBX)

168 I'm so looking forward to Wednesday, hoosierbrad.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 06:41 PM (hawOV)

169 A woman I know said today that she is very afraid that BO is going to bring back the draft.  I asked her why she thinks that and she said she read something he said in the paper and it sent chills down her spine.  Of course, she couldn't remember where she read it.  The beauty of speaking with someone online is that you can ask for a link.

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 06:41 PM (zplc6)

170 Now more than ever...

Fellow morons, fellow PUMAs, fellow Americans...

Our country may one day fall. But it is not this day.
Freedom may one day be overrun. But it is not this day.
Our time may pass- BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY!

We stand today as one to prevent our country from going over the precipice. It won't be over if we win the day Tuesday, but it will be one major step away from the cliff. The work only begins then- BUT WE MUST COMPLETE THE TASK AT HAND!

Make the call. Knock on the door. Spread the truth- and spread your freedom! Make your voice heard- whether you're a fan of John McCain or not, now is not our moment to throw a tantrum- now is our moment to deflect our country away from the path of socialism. Now is the moment to defend our freedom- do it!!!

tmi3rd

Posted by: tmi3rd at October 31, 2008 06:42 PM (BCrQZ)

171 Zogby's an @$$ -- and just making stuff up.

He could well be right -- but given that the last Zogby release, maybe two days ago, had Obama up by 7 points or so...

There's a reason Zogby isn't included in the RCP average.

Zogby is in it for the headlines, always.  And this is a big headline --- and lets him claim next time around that he was the first one to publish McCain's "big comeback."

Posted by: Clint at October 31, 2008 06:42 PM (oZ5OG)

172

well, DrewM, is it a time to crow about dragging Mac? The guy running against a machine never assembled in politics??

 

And on a great note, the Rev. Wright ads have begune running. I have watched that ad once every commercial break on CBS for 2 hours.

It is in heavy rotation!!!

Lets just all drag each other over the finish line!! It was no harm meant in my comment. I just think poeple expect more from McCain and his campaign than is possible. When you look at the odds against him on so many levels. More than any candidate. In my mind i think he has run a couragous campaign and once aggain lead by example. He is going to prove you can run a respectful campaign.

Now, i do not think talking about Obama's life and friends is disrespectful. However, i think it would have seriously backfired and he would have been tarred and feathered. Not to mention to attack on the character issues thoroughly he would have had to leave out some things americans care alot more about.

If he wins i think the naysayers really should rethink the whole idea he has not run hard.

If he loses then there is not much to support me but the margin.

We will win though.

Posted by: PPP at October 31, 2008 06:43 PM (zzms8)

173 but still we must campaign as if we are 15 points down!  No rest 'til Wednesday!

Abso-fucking-lutely right! In football terms, we're down by 4 with 2 minutes to go, but we have the ball. A field goal is no good; we need a touchdown. Now get out there and take it to the bastards!

Posted by: Andy at October 31, 2008 06:43 PM (B+HYX)

174 I swallowed hard and did something I never thought I would...I voted for John McCain. I feel your pain, brother. I did the same thing. But the entire time I did it, I just told myself "Think of Sarah", and it worked. This weekend I'm walking the streets for Sarah, and McCain.

Posted by: Greg Q at October 31, 2008 06:43 PM (87k2j)

175

A drowning man will reach for anything to pull him out of the water, as is indicated by the fact that you are pinning your hopes on this one, inaccurate poll.  Go to fivethirtyeight.com and see what non-partisan pollsters say about this poll.  Don't get your hopes up too much, it appears they will be dashed.

It looks like you will see the next two years with a super-majority of Democrats in Congress, and a Democratic President.  It will probably be so bad that we have huge growth in employment, gdp and an increase in membership in the middle class as almost always seems to happen when Democrats run things.

But don't lose all hope; you will still be able to bitch and moan about the state of the world, which seems to be the thing that conservatives are best at.

if you have the balls you piece of crap, come her on tuesday night talking that shit, live by the polls die by the polls troll

Posted by: YRM at October 31, 2008 06:43 PM (004wR)

176

Go to fivethirtyeight.com and see what non-partisan pollsters say about this poll.

WTF? Bwahahahahaha fivethirtyeight is non-partisan like KOS is non-partisan.

Posted by: robtr at October 31, 2008 06:43 PM (C6ME0)

177 It looks like you will see the next two years with a super-majority of Democrats in Congress, and a Democratic President. It will probably be so bad that we have huge growth in unemployment, massive drops in gdp and a decrease in membership in the middle class as almost always seems to happen when Democrats run things. There, hoosierbrad. Fixed it for you. A$$hat.

Posted by: troll patroller at October 31, 2008 06:44 PM (tK42Y)

178 hoosierbrad, this is you on election night. http://tinylink.com/?3mg3t4cVe5

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 31, 2008 06:44 PM (e2mBS)

179 Kensinton, let's not get crazy here. If he wins, the only reason would be his putting Governor Palin on the ticket. For that the conservatives can be grateful because she is the future and this vicious vetting has shown her toughness. If we had a real fighter and articulate speaker, who would have called out Obama during the debates and fought a smarter fight, we would be 12 points up at this time. (go ahead and factor in media junking the numbers) ppp, I always love your comments but the base is winning this race not McCain.

Posted by: mare at October 31, 2008 06:44 PM (X1fsj)

180 Speaking of Rev. Wright, I heard some of his greatest hits today for the first time in months, and oh my goodness!  I'd forgotten how vicious and hateful that man could be.  That man was Barack Obama's "spiritual advisor" for twenty years?  Oh.  My.  Goodness.  I wish the whole country could hear him shrieking "God damn America" or the unseemly way he seems to relish "America's CHICKENS...are coming HOME...to ROOST!"

What a fucking ghoul.  What happened, Barry?  Fr. Coughlin was already dead and unavailable to mentor you?

Posted by: Kensington at October 31, 2008 06:44 PM (xFNQx)

181 I guess the news finally hit the moonbat blogs. Was starting to wonder where they were.

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 06:44 PM (+WuMm)

182 Supreme Court asked to halt Tuesday's vote Constitutional crisis feared over Obama's 'qualifications' The U.S. Supreme Court is being asked to help the nation avoid a constitutional crisis by halting Tuesday's election until Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama documents his eligibility to run for the top office in the nation. Democratic attorney Philip Berg had filed a lawsuit alleging Obama is ineligible to be president because of possible birth in Kenya, a federal judge dismissed the complaint claiming Berg lacks standing to bring the action. Philip J. Berg The 34-page memorandum that accompanied the court order from Judge R. Barclay Surrick concluded ordinary citizens can't sue to ensure that a presidential candidate actually meets the constitutional requirements of the office. Instead, Surrick said Congress could determine "that citizens, voters, or party members should police the Constitution's eligibility requirements for the Presidency," but that it would take new laws to grant individual citizens that ability. "Until that time," Surrick says, "voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring." Berg has maintained that uncertainty about how the U.S. does enforce the requirements of presidency may result in a constitutional crisis should an ineligible candidate win the office. In a statement today, Berg said he is applying to Justice David Souter for an "Immediate Injunction to Stay the Presidential Election of November 4, 2008." "I am hopeful that the U.S. Supreme Court will grant the injunction pending a review of this case to avoid a constitutional crisis by insisting that Obama produce certified documentation that he is or is not a "natural born" citizen and if he cannot produce documentation that Obama be removed from the ballot for president," Berg said. "We must legally prevent Obama, the unqualified candidate, from taking the office of the presidency of the United States," Berg said. The issue of Obama's eligibility first got traction among Internet bloggers and later was heightened when several campaigns were launched to determine whether a "certificate of live birth" posted on the Internet by the Obama campaign was valid. The issue gained more attention when Berg told radio talk show icon Michael Savage he had an admission from Obama's grandmather that she was at his birth – in Kenya. "This is a question of who has standing to stand up for our Constitution," Berg told Jeff Schreiber of America's Right blog. "If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to ask whether or not the likely next president of the United States – the most powerful man in the entire world – is eligible to be in that office in the first place, then who does?" Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court in August, alleging Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus ineligible to serve as president of the United States. Berg demanded that Obama provide documentation to the court to verify that the candidate was born in Hawaii, as Obama contends, and not in Kenya, as Berg believes. Some of my friends in the intelligence agencies suspect that the records may have been corrupted for some time. It may even go back to the original recording. We will see how this all plays out. You would think that the press would be all over this. Can you imagine, if this issue came up in 2000 when George W. Bush was running. He would have been tarred, feathered and driven from the race........

Posted by: sickinmass at October 31, 2008 06:44 PM (/i4dU)

183

A woman I know said today that she is very afraid that BO is going to bring back the draft. I asked her why she thinks that and she said she read something he said in the paper and it sent chills down her spine. Of course, she couldn't remember where she read it.

Posted by: incredulous at October 31, 2008 11:41 PM (zplc6)

He did pledge to build a "civilian" national security force with budget, weapons, and manpower equal to the Pentagon... while also increasing the Pentagon's budget.

The SS had the draft, didn't they?

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 06:45 PM (hawOV)

184 "I have seen several people comment that the obama camp charges for their signs and bumper stickers". Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 11:08 PM  - You gotta be kidding me!? What the crap are they doing with all this money? I see they are STILL raising money, and I really don't understand that...they have bacoodles of money, and the election is almost here...what do they do with it when it's all over? Turn it over to DNC?

Posted by: freetofly at October 31, 2008 06:45 PM (Qvtkv)

185 If McCain somehow wins, I'm watching MSNBC all day on wednesday to watch heads catch on fire.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at October 31, 2008 06:45 PM (nOQXA)

186 mare, that's fine, but, as you noted, McCain chose Palin.  That was his doing, and if he wins, it will turn out to be masterfully shrewd on his part.

Posted by: Kensington at October 31, 2008 06:45 PM (xFNQx)

187 Incredulous, just search on "Obama military draft" -- I just did a Yahoo search and there are plenty of sources there. 

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 06:46 PM (9Wv2j)

188 Clint:  Zogby is included in the RCP average.

Posted by: Ryan at October 31, 2008 06:46 PM (MMxvP)

189

"Let's drag McCain's ass over the finish line."

Thursday, Rush said something similar to a caller, but he called McCain Yosemite Sam. Funniest thing I've heard since the Al Smith speech..

Posted by: Pelayo at October 31, 2008 06:46 PM (nw+cE)

190 Just sailed through the HuffPo. They don't seem too worried...in fact they're laughing Zogby off in droves due to the front page of Zogby Intl. showing 50-43 Obama. The good news is that one post, AGAIN, promised to pack up the truck and flee, flee, flee if there is a McPalin upset. One of us gave him his bon voyage. Let's make him keep his promise.

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 31, 2008 06:46 PM (KyqYb)

191 We will win though.

PPP

Fair enough. I'm still smarting a little from people telling me all summer that McCain didn't need the base, he was going to flip states, etc...

As I said, win or lose Wednesday is soon enough for that shit. And if turns out the right way, it'll never come up.

Till then....vote, call and talk! Whatever it takes.


Posted by: DrewM. at October 31, 2008 06:48 PM (hlYel)

192 btw, hoosierbrad, how much does Obama pay you per hour?

Posted by: troll patroller at October 31, 2008 06:48 PM (tK42Y)

193 Pushing myself to watch CNN... they got all the Obama chills on and you should see the looks on theur faces aleady... I AM FUCKN LOVING THIS!! By the way - all polls will start now to converge to the REAL picture since they are all 3 day trakings. So today is the first day in the 3 days before the election. This is no Coincidence.

Posted by: hapster at October 31, 2008 06:48 PM (DzJng)

194 Yes crush them!  drive them before us!   Hear the wailing of their women!  See their children cry!  Watch the fear turn their bowels to water!

Posted by: unseen at October 31, 2008 06:48 PM (aVGmX)

195 Hey YRM, like most Republicans, you seem unable to engage in a polite discussion when confronted by contrarian opinions; you seem to want to fight me!  Wow, your ancestors must not have been picky enough when the Neanderthals were around.

Posted by: hoosierbrad at October 31, 2008 06:49 PM (y/JJL)

196 Zogby could be going a feint, showing McCain up on Friday before showing Obama "surging" to a big lead over the weekend come Monday. However, I'm interested to see how the Kostards are taking this poll.

Posted by: physics geek at October 31, 2008 06:49 PM (39w/B)

197 Conservatives don't lose hope and they like the way the country is, hence the name CONSERVative. We don't care about change, we like growth and liberty. Suck it, liberals. Yes, that means you hoosierbad.

Posted by: mare at October 31, 2008 06:50 PM (X1fsj)

198 PPP, Don't come down too hard on DrewM, he actually told me to STFU one night when I went a bit far in my "critique" of McCain. Rightly so. Not many people I look forward to reading who told me to STFU, just saying.

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 06:50 PM (+WuMm)

199 "Wow, your ancestors must not have been picky enough when the Neanderthals were around."

There's no reason whatsoever to think the Neanderthals were more aggressive. As far as we know they were fine, decent, spiritual people.

God bless our natural heritage.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 06:50 PM (hawOV)

200 hoosierbrad,

Here's the only interesting thing lefty favorite fivethirtyeight had to say...

Do you spook easily?

Judging by the response in my inbox, some of you do.

Team Obama lives in fear of not being in the lead or being thought of as being in the lead. It's as much psychological as it is reality. Of course you know that, that's why you came over here to get everyone worried again.

How's that working out?


Posted by: DrewM. at October 31, 2008 06:51 PM (hlYel)

201 194 Yes crush them!  drive them before us!   Hear the wailing of their women!  See their children cry!  Watch the fear turn their bowels to water!

I like the cut of your jib, unseen!

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 06:51 PM (9Wv2j)

202 "Thursday, Rush said something similar to a caller, but he called McCain Yosemite Sam. Funniest thing I've heard since the Al Smith speech.."

Ha ha.  Every time Rush starts talking about how wel have to drag McCain across the finish line, it cracks me up.  He takes on the tone of an exasperated parent, and the exaggerated condescension of it is really funny.  That man is a genius comedian on top of his rhetorical skills.  He has found a way of supporting McCain whilst still acknowledging subtly how irritating he finds him in general.

In the end, it's all about the wonderful Governor Palin.  God bless her for getting us this far.

Posted by: Kensington at October 31, 2008 06:52 PM (xFNQx)

203 If songbird wins this election, I will be very surprised, indeed.  I will go out on a limb and predict that every state east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason Dixon line will go for Obama, including my state of Indiana.


Posted by: hoosierbrad at October 31, 2008 06:52 PM (y/JJL)

204 Draft would be needed IF the"one" makes it. WHO would stay in the military with Sam as President??

Posted by: sickinmass at October 31, 2008 06:52 PM (/i4dU)

205

I actually put out a "another democrat for McCain" yard sign. The trick or treater parents were universally POSITIVE! I got a couple of "we're dems too, and we voted early for McCain."

So those registered dems voting early? Not all for Obama. Sorry, comrades.

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 11:26 PM (xyyHG)

Woo hoo!

You're still wrong about Allahpundit.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 06:52 PM (hawOV)

206 #184 freetofly, just check the Kossak blog. It's plastered with "Dig deep" and "Fundraising Push" for congressional seats. A hundred links all to donate mula. You would think BO would spread the wealth with his own party, but nooOOOOooo. And to think that forever they have tagged us with being obsesses with money.

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 31, 2008 06:53 PM (KyqYb)

207 Kensington, I can't deny that. And I love her.

Posted by: mare at October 31, 2008 06:53 PM (X1fsj)

208 Answer my question, hoosierbrad, how much is the O paying you per hour to haunt us here?

Posted by: troll patroller at October 31, 2008 06:53 PM (tK42Y)

209 ballsy, admitting your choice, despite the bile you piled on him.

You should actually come to my state, PA and cast a vote to offset the thousands of dead/unknown/unrecognizable voters Rendell's machine is going to bring to the table.

Street is his own man, but Fast Eddy knows where the dead bodies (votes) are buried.

just wait for it, PA is going to be won on the margins and everyones going to wonder where those eight thousand or so votes out Philly came from.

Statewide, we all know they're good for a couple of thousand fake ballots, but something tells me, every graveyard will be emptied this election day...

Posted by: chris at October 31, 2008 06:53 PM (kbxoN)

210 I love the way conservatives hate liberals, but if they stopped to think about it, if our founding fathers had been conservative in their political thinking we would still be a part of the British Empire.

Posted by: hoosierbrad at October 31, 2008 06:53 PM (y/JJL)

211 You know if we win we could have education camps. They would teach American history, the Federalist papers, and the Constitution. If they are a good class they could move on to Adam Smith and The Wealth of Nations.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 31, 2008 06:54 PM (e2mBS)

212 Troll Patroller:

I am not, nor have I ever have paid by anyone to speak my piece; I am a true free agent.

Posted by: hoosierbrad at October 31, 2008 06:56 PM (y/JJL)

213 "I love the way conservatives hate liberals..."

You believe in killing unborn babies. In parents killing their own unborn babies. Your candidate believes in infanticide.

Yes, I hate you. Seriously. If other conservatives choose not to, that's their business. For my part, if you died now I think the world would be a better place.

Is that harsh? Not any more than your evil beliefs.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 06:56 PM (hawOV)

214 Our founding fathers followed conservative principles, hoosierbrad. Read John Locke. We get our rights from God, not from some sovereign (which would include the government, fyi). You may get your pittances from the O, but the rest of us get our rights from God. And as for hate, the real hate comes from your side of the aisle. BTW, how much does O pay you per hour? I'm sure it's not enough to make you rich at $42K per year.

Posted by: troll patroller at October 31, 2008 06:56 PM (tK42Y)

215 Posted by: hoosierbrad at October 31, 2008 11:53 PM (y/JJL)

BZZZZT! WRONG!

They saw their freedoms being eaten away on a daily basis and fought to preserve and defend them. They rightly understood  the actions of the King and Parliament to be new and dangerous.

Conservatism does not mean, nor has it ever meant, blind inaction.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 31, 2008 06:57 PM (hlYel)

216 Everyone shits on the polls unless one shows McCain ahead. I hope he's right, but McCain has been down in virtually every poll since mid September for fucks sake.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at October 31, 2008 06:57 PM (nOQXA)

217 211 You know if we win we could have education camps. They would teach American history, the Federalist papers, and the Constitution. If they are a good class they could move on to Adam Smith and The Wealth of Nations.

I hope that Ace's headline on Wednesday morning is "Obama pimp-slapped by Adam Smith's Invisible Hand."

Posted by: BrandonInBatonRouge at October 31, 2008 06:57 PM (U7TcP)

218

Hey YRM, like most Republicans, you seem unable to engage in a polite discussion when confronted by contrarian opinions; you seem to want to fight me!  Wow, your ancestors must not have been picky enough when the Neanderthals were around.

ah, but you forget this is a rated r blog and i didn't attack you poor baby (here's your hanky), i used curse words to tell you what i will now tell you politely since you can't take such language...if your that confident then i dare you to come here tuesday night. also any clown who trust fivethirtyeight just shows how bias they are. that's like me trusting a townhall site for polls that always show the republican up. i didn't come into enemy territory to talk crap, YOU DID, and thus were asking you to back it up. so poor baby since i hurt your feelings while making a stupid comment on us republicans not engaging in "polite discussion" yet you started things off w/ the comment on us bitching and moaning on the country. But hey DailyKos is classy hugh? you see me calling for your dear socialist leader's death? nope. but a few curse words and telling you to back your own shit up in a rated r blog and you want to cry to mama' that republicans are being mean to you. i suggest you take me on if you find me in non-rated r blogs if you want to have a "polite discussion" as you'd call it

ps: "contrarian opinions"? big word for yah big shot, tell me how do you feel about those bitter clingers in pennyslvania who can't say that word?

Posted by: YRM at October 31, 2008 06:57 PM (004wR)

219 Hee hee - Drudge has the photo up of Obama running away from the press like a scared little bitch.

Posted by: Jim62sch at October 31, 2008 06:57 PM (6rQXk)

220 Hoosierbrad, don't show too much of your ignorance. Growth and Liberty and freedom from the tyranny of taxes. Our Founding Fathers knew exactly what they were doing.

Posted by: mare at October 31, 2008 06:57 PM (X1fsj)

221 Thats it Hoosierbrad is signed up for the first camp on American history. He obviously needs remedial studies.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 31, 2008 06:57 PM (e2mBS)

222 Oh, a volunteer troll for O. How cute.

Posted by: troll patroller at October 31, 2008 06:57 PM (tK42Y)

223 hoosierbrad = obama's rectal thermometer

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 06:58 PM (qSqPf)

224 Are we really going to allow the trolls to jack this thread, people?

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 06:58 PM (9Wv2j)

225 Hoosierbrad, Hooooooosierbrad. It's the ghost of Hopeychangy. We weren't serious Hoosierbrad. Weeeeee weeeeerrrrn't seeerioous. Weeeeeee thougggghhhhht Hillllllaaaaaarrrrryyy woooullld crrrrreeeeeaaaammmmmm usssssss. RRRRRuuuunnnn aaaawwwwwaaaayyyyy. Rrrrrrruuuuunnnnn.

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at October 31, 2008 06:58 PM (i73Rf)

226 Posted by: troll patroller at October 31, 2008 11:56 PM (tK42Y)

I don't know who you are but I like the cut of your jib. I don't like that you type faster than I do but still, well played.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 31, 2008 06:59 PM (hlYel)

227

Are we really going to allow the trolls to jack this thread, people?

Fuck no! Now what about that Fox Poll?

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 06:59 PM (qSqPf)

228 and the trolls come out.

"There's a reason Zogby isn't included in the RCP average." - LIE

Damn ace, we need more flaming skulls, they aren't even sending the good trolls anymore.

Posted by: David at October 31, 2008 07:00 PM (HAdov)

229 Thanks for the dumbfuck misreading of history, hosedbrad.  Now go back to Axelrod and tell him you made a complete ass out of yourself with your simpleton astroturfing bullshit.   He's probably used to hearing that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 31, 2008 07:00 PM (m2sQh)

230

If songbird wins this election, I will be very surprised, indeed.  I will go out on a limb and predict that every state east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason Dixon line will go for Obama, including my state of Indiana.

yeah...and my rays are coming back down 4-1 to win the world series...oh wait

I love the way conservatives hate liberals, but if they stopped to think about it, if our founding fathers had been conservative in their political thinking we would still be a part of the British Empire.

and i love the way you just crowed over how you know about the founding fathers...the same ones your messiah just dissed in that 2001 tape that was found out recently

Posted by: YRM at October 31, 2008 07:00 PM (004wR)

231 if our founding fathers had been conservative in their political thinking we would still be a part of the British Empire.

Something tells me the founding fathers wouldn't agree with your contention that they are in the same political category as modern day liberals.

Posted by: Bilby at October 31, 2008 07:01 PM (8iDn7)

232 DrewM, as a retired blogger, I got used to typing quick. Put it this way, my fingers work faster than the synapses in hoosierbrad's cranium.

Posted by: troll patroller at October 31, 2008 07:02 PM (tK42Y)

233 Hope you all take the bullets out of your firearms and hide them on Tuesday; when you wake up and smell the coffee on Wednesday you might be feeling a bit suicidal.

Tata

Posted by: hoosierbrad at October 31, 2008 07:03 PM (y/JJL)

234 The "Bradley Effect" isn't about being a racist, it is about bending over backwards to avoid any plausibility of being accused of being a racist. It is political correctness - something drummed into people for years now. Fiercely. This means: Lying to pollsters.

Posted by: Al at October 31, 2008 07:03 PM (Lk931)

235 Yo, hoosierbrad:

If Axelrod owes you any money, I suggest you collect before Tuesday. 'Cause he isn't going to know you after then, either way.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 31, 2008 07:04 PM (JTN0y)

236 Happy Halloween Nobama... Hope you are enjoying the polls today LOL

Posted by: hapster at October 31, 2008 07:04 PM (DzJng)

237 lol @ "Tata"

How butch!

Posted by: Bilby at October 31, 2008 07:04 PM (8iDn7)

238 Posted by: hoosierbrad at November 01, 2008 12:03 AM (y/JJL)

Give our regards to the rest of the Kos Kiddies!

Posted by: DrewM. at October 31, 2008 07:05 PM (hlYel)

239 Just sailed through the HuffPo. They don't seem too worried...in fact they're laughing Zogby off in droves due to the front page of Zogby Intl. showing 50-43 Obama.


Posted by: Paul at October 31, 2008 07:06 PM (642J9)

240

Hope you all take the bullets out of your firearms and hide them on Tuesday; when you wake up and smell the coffee on Wednesday you might be feeling a bit suicidal.

Tata

what happen to "polite..." oh hell your a liberal why should i be shocked your a hypocrite too

ps: like i said back your shit up and come here tuesday, then we'll see who's really laughing

Posted by: YRM at October 31, 2008 07:07 PM (004wR)

241 hoosierbrad, does using anal beads help you forget the pain you have from your father's abuse?

Posted by: Timmy in the well at October 31, 2008 07:07 PM (5DHMR)

242 I actually think hoosierbrad raised morale. It was already high, but he just showed how unified we are.

Not only against leftist trolls, but in the belief McCain can win this. I don't think anyone here disagrees with that.

Thanks for clarifying on the subject, hoosierbrad.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 07:08 PM (hawOV)

243 Good God trolls, be creative! they already told us what you would say... you need to change it up a little to make is credible.  We are on to you...

Posted by: susanita at October 31, 2008 07:08 PM (Dw3vY)

244

 Just sailed through the HuffPo. They don't seem too worried...in fact they're laughing Zogby off in droves due to the front page of Zogby Intl. showing 50-43 Obama.

lol wait until tuesday, if you were sent here to dampen spirits w/ that comment (apologies if you weren't), it ain't working bwhahahahaha!

Posted by: YRM at October 31, 2008 07:09 PM (004wR)

245 I also didn't appreciate you insulting my Neanderthal ancestors.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 07:09 PM (hawOV)

246 Put it this way, my fingers work faster than the synapses in hoosierbrad's cranium.

Well, fuck, shoot for some low standards, why don't ya? My alcohol-encapsulated synapses blow that low bar away, too.

Posted by: Andy at October 31, 2008 07:10 PM (B+HYX)

247 You know who we have not thanked enough? John Murtha. That's right, without this useful idiot, I'm not sure PA would be turning our way. Give that man a mircrophone.

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 07:11 PM (+WuMm)

248 This takes the cake! http://tinyurl.com/5dch59 Check out the comments on this Wonkette post. h/t freeper

Posted by: ethel at October 31, 2008 07:11 PM (3YS+C)

249 You know who we have not thanked enough? John Murtha. That's right, without this useful idiot, I'm not sure PA would be turning our way.

Give that man a mircrophone.

Or another bottle of booze.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 07:12 PM (hawOV)

250 hoosierbrad: "It will probably be so bad that we have huge growth in employment, gdp and an increase in membership in the middle class as almost always seems to happen when Democrats run things." Riiiight, just like those halcyon Carter years. And Clinton had a Republican Congress for most of his tenure.

Posted by: douray at October 31, 2008 07:13 PM (XStq4)

251 Just sailed through the HuffPo. They don't seem too worried...in fact they're laughing Zogby off in droves

They're just scared that the first one to break ranks will get the screwdriver treatment.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 31, 2008 07:13 PM (JTN0y)

252 A drowning man will reach for anything to pull him out of the water, as is indicated by the fact that you are pinning your hopes on this one, inaccurate poll. 

Why do you call this inaccurate? Is there any basis for your claim? Rasmussen has Obama losing ground, too.

Go to fivethirtyeight.com and see what non-partisan pollsters say about this poll.  Don't get your hopes up too much, it appears they will be dashed.

You're joking, right? The site's about me page admits that they support Barack Obama.

It looks like you will see the next two years with a super-majority of Democrats in Congress, and a Democratic President.  It will probably be so bad that we have huge growth in employment, gdp and an increase in membership in the middle class as almost always seems to happen when Democrats run things.

Yeah, that worked out marvelously during the Carter years. People were so wealthy that they were running out of places to put money.

But don't lose all hope; you will still be able to bitch and moan about the state of the world, which seems to be the thing that conservatives are best at.

Really? Because survey after survey shows conservatives happier and more content than liberals.

I love the way conservatives hate liberals, but if they stopped to think about it, if our founding fathers had been conservative in their political thinking we would still be a part of the British Empire.

Oh, yeah. Because nothing says "liberal" like a God-fearing people rising up and forcefully overthrowing a power while guaranteeing the right to bear arms.

Posted by: Benson at October 31, 2008 07:14 PM (qzcNU)

253

if our founding fathers had been conservative in their political thinking we would still be a part of the British Empire.

hoosierbrad, here is one of the founding fathers on Obama's tax plan.

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson-Founding Father 

Posted by: robtr at October 31, 2008 07:14 PM (C6ME0)

254 I only said that to let you know what was happening on the dark side. I looked at it after it went up and thought it might be taken as a wet blanket. There was a part 2 to comment #190 The good news is that one post, AGAIN, promised to pack up the truck and flee, flee, flee if there is a McPalin upset. One of us gave him his bon voyage. No insult taken. Carry on.

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 31, 2008 07:15 PM (KyqYb)

255 They're just scared that the first one to break ranks will get the screwdriver treatment. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 07:15 PM (+WuMm)

256 Geez, I am always late to the flaming skull. but YESSS!

Posted by: kahall at October 31, 2008 07:16 PM (ZCT0i)

257 Hillbuzz honies have an article up...they're from Chicago and claim Chicago news with others going after Michelle Obama for illegallities...offering $25 lottery tickets for drawing chances at backstage pass to sit with O election night...pretty funny Mzzz Thanng the lawyer forgot they were told before this isn't legal !

Posted by: ItalianMama at October 31, 2008 07:17 PM (sCDCd)

258 "This takes the cake! http://tinyurl.com/5dch59 Check out the comments on this Wonkette post. h/t freeper"

Wow, you can see in that photo in her eyes just how much Trig's sister loves him, can't you?

Please check out my comment #213. Tell me this does not describe many on the left? Tell me they aren't this evil?

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 07:17 PM (hawOV)

259 I only said that to let you know what was happening on the dark side.

That is so racist.

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 07:18 PM (9Wv2j)

260 And the trolls appear.  Obama's internal polls must be looking even worse than Zogby.  If  hosedbrad hangs about it might very well be indicative of Obama losing forty states.

Posted by: The Obvious at October 31, 2008 07:19 PM (1g+FW)

261 Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 12:17 AM (hawOV) Yeah, I read them but could not even bring myself to post some of the evil comments in that POS.

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 07:20 PM (+WuMm)

262 Or my Cromagnum Ancestors either

Posted by: cromagnum at October 31, 2008 07:21 PM (j5MnB)

263 CB, it's an honor to be labeled racist by you *sniff*.

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 31, 2008 07:21 PM (KyqYb)

264 Look at the pictures on McCain's website. These will motivate you. I loved the one of the Gipper. God, I miss that man. http://www.johnmccain.com/Blog/

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 07:22 PM (qSqPf)

265  Just sailed through the HuffPo. They don't seem too worried...in fact  they're laughing Zogby off in droves due to the front page of Zogby Intl. showing 50-43 Obama.

Zogby's current composite number doesn't include Friday's numbers, which won't be included until Saturday, when Zogby will be showing a four point Obama lead.

I'm not too excited about this simply because it's just one day, and an 8 point swing overnight would be VERY hard to explain. Thursday's daily number was Obama +7. As the FiveThirtyEight site says, such a huge swing would usually have to be connected to a news event.

Thursday's main election news event was Obama's infomercial. Did the public recoil in horror from the infomercial? Is that possible? I have no idea.

This is good news because it's actually the MOST current polling data from any polling outfit. But like I said, I'm not getting excited about this unless it's replicated for a second day, at which time it would need to be reproduced in other polls as well.


Posted by: Paul at October 31, 2008 07:22 PM (642J9)

266 Where the hell is Fox News on this? The latest Zogby poll is not to be found.

Posted by: Conservative Kool-Aid at October 31, 2008 07:23 PM (M3tRZ)

267 CB, it's an honor to be labeled racist by you *sniff*.

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how we're going to state out preferences for the Thanksgiving turkey without being politically incorrect.

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 07:25 PM (9Wv2j)

268 What will be really cool is to watch the riots break out in the inner cities if O loses.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 31, 2008 07:26 PM (X7Ey1)

269 I'm not too excited about this simply because it's just one day, and an 8 point swing overnight would be VERY hard to explain.

Not difficult to explain at all. First of all, the top thing on your average working American's mind isn't that the election is on Tuesday. However, we've suddenly come into the realization that this is the last weekend. Polls usually tighten up right before the election.

Second of all, Frank Luntz did a study group on Obama's infomercial. 24 undecided voters went in, 9 went out. 8 of the undecideds went to Obama due to the commercial. 7 went to McCain because of it. It did almost as much harm as good.

Posted by: Benson at October 31, 2008 07:27 PM (qzcNU)

270 That link to Wonkette made me physically ill.  What the hell is wrong with these people?  I mean, my God.....

Posted by: me at October 31, 2008 07:27 PM (c3H+i)

271 Actually Paul, that's not really the case, either.  The polls are monumentally screwed up right now and horribly inaccurate.  That's the reason they are swinging all over the place.  If you're taking what we have seen in the polling up to now as an accurate baseline you are terribly mistaken.  What this poll shows without question is that the polls are crap on a stick.  And that the media's reliance on them to depress Republican turn out has been dishonest to the point of being fraud.  If the Repubs turn out they will win.  It is that simple.   

Posted by: The Obvious at October 31, 2008 07:27 PM (1g+FW)

272 Where the hell is Fox News on this? The latest Zogby poll is not to be found.

Sean Hannity reported it earlier this evening. As for the website, there's no link except to Drudge for now. While Drudge is likely right, it hasn't been confirmed.

Posted by: Benson at October 31, 2008 07:28 PM (qzcNU)

273 265 - Luntz was talking on O'Reilly tonight - obambi's ad was a wash according to his touchy-feely group analysis.  It convinced 8 cretins to vote for him, but 7 smart folks said that they were now going to vote for Mac and Sarah. 

Posted by: Major Graham at October 31, 2008 07:28 PM (qGn4/)

274

That link to Wonkette made me physically ill.  What the hell is wrong with these people?  I mean, my God.....

Tell me about it. That's why we have to fight hard to keep those people from taking over our country.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 07:29 PM (qSqPf)

275 #268 I wasn't the only EMT who worked LA during the Rodney King riots with a .357 mag in the rig. It does get exiting! I actually miss those 'good ol' days'. Hollywood Presbyterian hospital was in the middle of it. *sigh*

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 31, 2008 07:30 PM (KyqYb)

276

hoosierbrad  "songbird" in reference to McCain

stay classy, Sampley and Kiley.  oh, sorry, they left classy behind over a decade ago

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 07:30 PM (xyyHG)

277

Second of all, Frank Luntz did a study group on Obama's infomercial. 24 undecided voters went in, 9 went out. 8 of the undecideds went to Obama due to the commercial. 7 went to McCain because of it. It did almost as much harm as good.

pretty good considering luntz's focus groups seem to always mysteriously have obama winning, my proof the guy's full of crap? some woman called into a local radio show down here in tampa revealing luntz basically thinks obama has this all warpped up and "undicideds" he chooses already come in knowing who theyre most likely gonna vote for and that luntz will not allow any talk of a possible mccain win w/ the focus group

Posted by: YRM at October 31, 2008 07:31 PM (004wR)

278 What's more the appearance of the trolls and the astroturfers make it even more obvious that Obama's people realize that polls have been crap.  That their own polls aren't telling them what the public polls have been telling us and that they have gotten more than a little nervous.

Posted by: The Obvious at October 31, 2008 07:31 PM (1g+FW)

279 I am going to go hit goptrust.com again with another donation. When people see how racist and radical Obama's friends are they won't be voting for him.

Posted by: robtr at October 31, 2008 07:31 PM (C6ME0)

280 266: Zogby doesn't officially update until 1 AM ET... he just leaks it to Drudge early.

Posted by: Sean at October 31, 2008 07:31 PM (vZzYJ)

281 Sorry trolls, suppression won't work, we have a poll that shows McCain winning to point to that will last until election day.

We all know that Obama can't win with GOP turnout.  Drudge has been laying the groundwork all week to get the last laugh and is sending this marxist movement back to the abyss where it belongs.  I would like to thank the MSM for dissing drudge and pissing him off.

Posted by: David at October 31, 2008 07:31 PM (HAdov)

282 Stitches, I'm in LA, too.  You think the shit's gonna hit the fan on this one?

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 07:33 PM (9Wv2j)

283 Did you see the interview with Gov.Palen and her wonderful family on Greta tonight. They just have it all together. How nice the bus stopped in a little town in Penn. so Piper could go trick or treating........By far a different picture than Obamaman and his daughter Malaria running from the photographer........Cant run and hide if your President....

Posted by: Josey the Hygienist at October 31, 2008 07:33 PM (jvfVt)

284 ethel, that is kind of typical. Nasty, venomous, sad, child-hating and pathetic. I have been reading Ace's and other conservative blogs for years and I have never seen that kind of stuff from the conservatives. We will gladly eviscerate any worthy douchebag. But, never a kid. I've never read a conservative blogger talk about Obama's children (other than say they are cute). Biden's adult children yes, kids in general, no way.

Posted by: mare at October 31, 2008 07:35 PM (X1fsj)

285 WOW!!! Sondrak.com just posted a story from the Associated Press. Obama's aunt is living in the US illegally!!!!

Posted by: robtr at October 31, 2008 07:36 PM (C6ME0)

286 I would like to thank the MSM for dissing drudge and pissing him off.

I'm really hoping for 2008 to be remembered as, among other things, the year the MSM officially lost all credibility and died.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 31, 2008 07:37 PM (m2sQh)

287 I'll be in my bunk

Posted by: dan-O at October 31, 2008 07:38 PM (AEBFS)

288 I am Matt Drudge.

Posted by: John Galt at October 31, 2008 07:38 PM (3hSR9)

289 "I actually put out a "another democrat for McCain" yard sign.  The trick or treater parents were universally POSITIVE!  I got a couple of "we're dems too, and we voted early for McCain."

So those registered dems voting early?  Not all for Obama.  Sorry, comrades."  Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 11:26 PM

Woot! That is great to hear!

Posted by: freetofly at October 31, 2008 07:38 PM (Qvtkv)

290 I read Limabaugh a while ago and he mentioned a post by someone claiming to have worked with the Obama campaign. (I think at Hillbuzz?) This person said that due to the Bradley effect, they lop 10 percent off the poll numbers to arrive at the more likely numbers. I don't know if this is true or not, but it's interesting to consider while looking at the latest poll data from all the states as well as national polls.

Posted by: Bilby at October 31, 2008 07:39 PM (8iDn7)

291 Dunno. I suspect in our more, er, urban areas we'll see action. Shit. They loot n' riot when their team WINS! WTF do you think would happen when their team with their star playah goes down? I've repeatedly heard of PDs all over this nation preparing for the worst. I say bring it. My fortress of solitude is ready. Funny story. I took a cut-up looter into the ER and there was a cop waiting for her guy to get treated to haul his ass downtown. I asked her if she was worried about the shop owners down the street taking shots at the looters who tried to break into their stores. With the straightest face, she said, "What shop owners." Then turned away to her paperwork. Daaaammmmnnnn! I suspect that scenario will replay all over.

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 31, 2008 07:40 PM (KyqYb)

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 31, 2008 07:40 PM (JTN0y)

293 Hmmm, an immigration issue late in the campaign? Could be interesting...

Posted by: Sean at October 31, 2008 07:42 PM (vZzYJ)

294 I am Matt Drudge, too!

Posted by: Joe The Plumber at October 31, 2008 07:43 PM (1g+FW)

295 Obama's aunt is living in the US illegally!!!!

Get hosebrad back for this November surprise.  To hell with that TaTa horseshit, you fucking twat; face the music, cocksucker!!!

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 31, 2008 07:43 PM (m2sQh)

296 Remember: this is the woman who was instructed by the Obama campaign to not talk to the press until after the election.

Fucking. PWNED.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 31, 2008 07:43 PM (JTN0y)

297 Billby, that post is over on Texas Darlin.  Under the "Warning: Voter Suppression" post.  Comment #32 by cowgirl4u.  Very long, but damned interesting.  I sent it to Ace earlier, just as a "hey, check it out."

WELL worth the read.

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 07:43 PM (9Wv2j)

298 pretty good considering luntz's focus groups seem to always mysteriously have obama winning The funniest Luntz focus group was after the 1st debate, he asked a lady why she thought Obama won and she said "because he didn't stutter". Of course, he had stuttered all night along with his usual "uhs" and "ums". The look on her face was priceless because it was obvious she didn't believe her own bullshit.

Posted by: koopy at October 31, 2008 07:44 PM (a58Oa)

299 this new poll is um...um...a distraction from the politics ofchange and just bring back the politics of old. This must have something to do with the 8 years of failed policies of the Bush Administration

Posted by: Barrack Obama at October 31, 2008 07:45 PM (004wR)

300 "Obama's aunt is living in the US illegally!!!!"
"McCain ahead in one day tracking poll"

Is it Christmas or Halloween?  I'm confused now.

Posted by: David at October 31, 2008 07:46 PM (HAdov)

301 I thought I would be holding my nose right now, too.  I suprisingly find myself wholeheartedly behind the guy. He has pissed me off, but I think he is the right guy for the job. I didn't support him in the primary, but I have been impressed with him since. I am impressed with his story. They did a good job of telling it at the convention. I may not agree with everything he does, but I can't imagine any of the other guys competing this well against Obama. Never thought I would say that. His surrogates have been fabulous tonight. They are on message. Other than running a global warming ad, I think they know where they are going. They made ground in the economy. The polls reflect that. They are now going to turn to their strong point...the world is a scary place and McCain is the one that can best navigate us through these times.

Posted by: Hurting Head at October 31, 2008 07:47 PM (yW/Al)

302 I think a LOT of people were fucking with the pollsters, media,  and Obama campaign callers.  I know I was - at every freaking opportunity, cuz that's just the way I roll.  I got a big Haydukian "fuck with'em" streak in me.  The Obama campaign and local democrats want me bad.  My mailbox is chock full of dem campaign literature and devoid of republican literature.  Obie's campaign must have shared data with the local democrats and they put me on their "leaner list" for special attention since I'm a registered independent.

Now that its down to the wire, there's no need to keep the ruse up.
 

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 31, 2008 07:47 PM (OqXyp)

303 "Obama's aunt is living in the US illegally!!!!"

That didn't stop her from donating $260 to Obama's campaign, it seems. Will Obama return the money?

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 07:47 PM (hawOV)

304 open blogged it... thanks guys

Posted by: someone at October 31, 2008 07:48 PM (zHoxL)

305

chris at October 31, 2008 11:53 PM (kbxoN)

That depends on the 3:00am Nov 3 phone call from Hillary.   If Obama pays the 20 million to hillary she calls rendall and tells him to GOTV.  If he doesn't pay Rendall gets the phone call that says let the voters decide.

 

Gov Rendall and PA is Hillary's ace in the hole.  It is worth $20 million to her.  It is already set up.  Rendall leaked the memo saying he was worried, a couple stories about BHO not paying the walking around money in Philly.  etc.  Rendall has set it up so that He did everything he could.  etc

 

Pa is Hillary's to win or lose which way will she go?

Posted by: unseen at October 31, 2008 07:49 PM (aVGmX)

306

The funniest Luntz focus group was after the 1st debate, he asked a lady why she thought Obama won and she said "because he didn't stutter". Of course, he had stuttered all night along with his usual "uhs" and "ums". The look on her face was priceless because it was obvious she didn't believe her own bullshit.

yes! i mean luntz has been crowing about how mccain stand no chance and yet claims that no leftists can infiltarate his focus groups; the guy has been exposed as a joke, remember when fred and huckabee won all those primary debates but lost primary state after primary state to McCain?

Posted by: YRM at October 31, 2008 07:49 PM (004wR)

307 robtr,

Drudge just picked it up in red.

Posted by: Benson at October 31, 2008 07:50 PM (qzcNU)

308

"A little help, here guys. C'mon Jeremiah. What about you, Tony? Bill? Bernadet? Mr. Khalidi?"

 

Sincerely,

Nervous, sweating, standup comedian Barry

Posted by: nikkolai at October 31, 2008 07:52 PM (G8d+5)

309 188

"Clint: Zogby is included in the RCP average.

Posted by: Ryan at October 31, 2008 11:46 PM (MMxvP)"


Quite right.  No idea what I was thinking.

But I stand by the rest of it --- I believe McCain is actually ahead, but I don't think Zogby's poll is strong evidence of that.


Posted by: Clint at October 31, 2008 07:52 PM (oZ5OG)

310

cool

Posted by: robtr at October 31, 2008 07:53 PM (C6ME0)

311 249 You know who we have not thanked enough? John Murtha. That's right, without this useful idiot, I'm not sure PA would be turning our way.

Give that man a mircrophone.

Or another bottle of booze.

Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 12:12 AM (hawOV)

Both!

Don't forget Brunner!

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 07:53 PM (xyyHG)

312 incredulous @169, she was probably thinking of his comment that women should be included in the draft. Why mention that at all if you weren't considering reinstating it?

Posted by: Paula at October 31, 2008 07:53 PM (WYypq)

313 Had to post this comment from JellyToast at Hotair: I think Mr Zogby is a fine and upstanding man. Highly esteemed among pollsters and brethren alike. Without flaw, in fact. Always liked him. Very handsome, too, I might add. I mean, you know,, a real womans man. Intelligent. Everyone speaks well of him. JellyToast on October 31, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 07:56 PM (+WuMm)

314 Did I mention that Rudy G is going to be at McCain/Palin headquarters here in NV tomorrow afternoon!  oh boy!

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 07:57 PM (xyyHG)

315

Hurting Head

McCain was my logical choice at the start of the primaries, and that was based purely on the toxic environment prevalent in DC these days, and his ability to cross the aisle.  With that said, I voted for Romney, but the addition of Palin got me charged up.

Posted by: oldfart at October 31, 2008 08:00 PM (L8y/X)

316 "210 I love the way conservatives hate liberals, but if they stopped to think about it, if our founding fathers had been conservative in their political thinking we would still be a part of the British Empire.

Posted by: hoosierbrad at October 31, 2008 11:53 PM (y/JJL)"

LOL.

Much stronger logic: If our ancestors 150 years ago had followed the lead of the Democrats, Barack Obama would be a slave.

Posted by: Clint at October 31, 2008 08:00 PM (oZ5OG)

317

Did I mention that Rudy G is going to be at McCain/Palin headquarters here in NV tomorrow afternoon!  oh boy!

I'm so jealous! Good luck and let us know how it went.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 08:02 PM (qSqPf)

318 Go over to TX darlin and check out the post mentioned in #297... it's an eyeopener..

http://tiny.cc/EB5eB

Entry # 34 - cowgirl4u

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at October 31, 2008 08:04 PM (VYEVW)

319 #185: They just might have some of the highest ratings they have ever had with all of us tuning is to see the destruction live.

Posted by: Hurting Head at October 31, 2008 08:05 PM (yW/Al)

320 The force in Drudge is strong: Paparazzi: Obama has testy moment with the media... McCain: 'We're Coming Back Strong'... Murdoch says Obama win could worsen financial crisis... Obama 'raffles' off a chance to join him on Election Night... *Spent $700,000 for stage, lights in Berlin... Pollsters weigh in on potential 'election day surprises'... AP poll: 1 in 7 voters still persuadable... The Final Weekend... Study: Media coverage has favored Obama campaign... ABCNEWS: Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes: 'Selfishness'... Author warns of 'Second American Civil War'; 'Blood Will Run in the Streets'...

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 08:11 PM (+WuMm)

321 Actually, Eeyore, it's comment #32.  And thanks for doing the tiny!!

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 08:11 PM (9Wv2j)

322 Zogby just confirmed the poll is 48-47 for McCain.

Posted by: Benson at October 31, 2008 08:12 PM (qzcNU)

323 Go over to TX darlin and check out the post mentioned in #297... it's an eyeopener..

http://tiny.cc/EB5eB

Entry # 34 - cowgirl4u

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at November 01, 2008 01:04 AM (VYEVW)

TexasDarlin deletes comments she doesn't like. When I got there it was #32.

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 08:16 PM (hawOV)

324 I'm a NASCAR fan, as well as a Single Yuppie female with an MBA.  I'm voting for McCain.  I'm sure the pollsters will have fun trying to categorize that.  Hee!

Posted by: prtybl at October 31, 2008 08:18 PM (oZRE/)

325 I'm a NASCAR fan, as well as a Single Yuppie female with an MBA. I'm voting for McCain. How you doin'?

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 08:20 PM (+WuMm)

326 Wow, prtybl, did you open yourself up to come ons. If you didn't describe yourself as the ideal single female for the frequenters of this blog...

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 08:22 PM (hawOV)

327 Schwing!

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 31, 2008 08:23 PM (KyqYb)

328

Some people seem to be mistaken.  The Zogby poll does not say McCain has a 1 point lead, it says he GAINED 1 point

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 08:27 PM (j/wD+)

329

You should all go read the Jake Tapper piece that's linked on Drudge.  Read how Tapper ends it.

I'm in shock.

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 08:27 PM (xyyHG)

330 TexasDarlin deletes comments she doesn't like. When I got there it was #32.

It was at 32 when I sent it to Ace about 7 hours ago.  Go the fuck away, Christoph, you scabrous little hemmorhoid. 

Posted by: CB at October 31, 2008 08:29 PM (9Wv2j)

331

Sorry to rain on the parade but everyone here is WRONG.  Zogby said McCain outpolled Obama 48-47 ONE DAY.  He is still behind

http://www.zogby.com/index.cfm

UTICA, New York -- Republican John McCain made a small gain against Democrat Barack Obama and has pulled back within the margin of error, now trailing Obama by five points, 49.1% to 44.1%, the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking telephone poll shows

 

Read it all here

http://www.zogby.com/main.htm

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 08:32 PM (j/wD+)

332

I'm proud to say I live in Bucks County, PA and McCain is going to win this county, this state, and this election. 

Posted by: rockmom at October 31, 2008 08:32 PM (iZqUY)

333 Now, if prtybl were a hockey fan...


Posted by: troll patroller (home version) at October 31, 2008 08:33 PM (UMePk)

334 Our founding father got so pissed off at their taxes, that they got their guns and took down the government in power.  Their document explaining what they were up to uses God as the justification for equal RIGHTS (not equal possessions). 

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they were closer to the GOP way of thinking.  'conservative' and 'liberal' only make sense if you're honest.  And the democrat populism isn't really all that liberal.  Believing in the equal rights of all people... to own guns, to criticize Obama, to be free of ridiculous taxation and regulation... all that is classical liberalism, and it's not conservative in any way shape or form, except that it's called that.  It would be a huge change for progress if all the so called 'conservative' polcies came to effect, but it's called conservative by marxists in ivory towers to diminish the reformist attitude of the movement.

We're the good guys.

Posted by: shill at October 31, 2008 08:33 PM (8jYMc)

335 I voted early for McCain. It was like having sex with my sister: better than nothing.

Posted by: Aaron at October 31, 2008 08:34 PM (dTiq3)

336 Hi Rockmom. Northwestern Chester County here. Almost Amish Country (and ain't none of them voting for the O).

Posted by: troll patroller (home version) at October 31, 2008 08:34 PM (UMePk)

337 325 I'm a NASCAR fan, as well as a Single Yuppie female with an MBA. I'm voting for McCain.

You doing anything later on?

Posted by: rls at October 31, 2008 08:35 PM (k4h7p)

338

Drudge links Zogby's page

"Is McCain making a move? The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama today, 48% to 47%. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all. "Obama's lead among women declined, and it looks like it is occurring because McCain is solidifying the support of conservative women, which is something we saw last time McCain picked up in the polls. If McCain has a good day tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama's good day three days ago, and we could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now, hold on."

 

 

Come on ... lets roll snake eyes, i mean roll the Khalidi tape

 

Posted by: Cromagnum at October 31, 2008 08:35 PM (j5MnB)

339 JimD, everybody knows it's one day polling. It says so on the Drudge headline!

Posted by: Bilby at October 31, 2008 08:35 PM (8iDn7)

340 Jim D, good job!  go buy your raffle ticket from Madame Obama....astroturfer discount!

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 08:36 PM (xyyHG)

341 On a lighter note, here's a three year old Sarah Palin!!!

Posted by: Randy R at October 31, 2008 08:37 PM (r+abb)

342 We're the good guys.
Well spoken, Shill.

Posted by: troll patroller (home version) at October 31, 2008 08:38 PM (UMePk)

343

Well Ace's headline says this:

Drudge: Zogby Says McCain In Lead By 1 point.

that is wrong, or at least VERY missleading.

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 08:39 PM (j/wD+)

344 really, go read the ABC news story Drudge linked.  Jake Tapper is about to become a pariah at work, unless my comprehension is way off

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 08:40 PM (xyyHG)

345 Regaining the House is posible, if not likely if McCain wins.

Posted by: Cedric at October 31, 2008 08:41 PM (ntSJp)

346 Jim D. Mented.

Posted by: troll patroller (home version) at October 31, 2008 08:41 PM (UMePk)

347

Posted by: Randy R at November 01, 2008 01:37 AM (r+abb)

That was great! Thanks for posting that.

Posted by: Ginger at October 31, 2008 08:41 PM (qSqPf)

348 Why do dems feel the need to put certain words in caps? VERY strange.

Posted by: Hongqi at October 31, 2008 08:41 PM (+WuMm)

349 Knock if off funkychicken.  I've been here long enough to prove I'm no astroturfer.  

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 08:41 PM (j/wD+)

350 lets roll snake eyes Never lies -- Oh hell yeah, it's on. Axelturfers? KISS MY MEXICAN ASS. please, super please?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 31, 2008 08:42 PM (V1E6L)

351 345 Regaining the House is posible, if not likely if McCain wins.

That would by icing on the cake.  Not having to endure Botox Nancy.

Posted by: rls at October 31, 2008 08:42 PM (k4h7p)

352 The inner cities will burn like dried kindling...rodney King will get misty eyed watching TV with all the Obamanauts leaving LA's liquor stores with room temperature malt liquor, stolen lotto tickets and softcore porn mags with Angelina Jolie on the covershowing her tits while Brad "Angie holds the balls in the family" Pitt holds one of her squalling welps and watches...prolly just like when the poolboy 'visits' or the mail gets 'delivered' to her, umm, box...Pitt the metrosexual just gets to watch...when LA burns he'll prolly take time to have a good long cry. She'll just run, ignoring that worm, but I digress...

I hope the rioting, if it happens, starts in Beverly Hills, demolishes west Hollywood, central LA and ends with San Fran a cindered ghost town.

That'd be fine, as well as some looting in Chi-town to boot. Detroit,too.Good riddance. Burn your own neighborhoods to the ground you mouthbreathing twits...

If we win, it'll be PRICELESS!!!

Posted by: johnjacobjingleheimersmith and wesson at October 31, 2008 08:45 PM (2rMGM)

353 funky chicken, it might be overly cynical of me, but I wouldn't be surprised if all these last minute negative stories about Obama coming out reflects the belief that it's too late to change the game now.

These folks want to hurry and get something negative about him on the record so they can later say "See, I put out something critical of Obama before the election! That proves I'm not in the tank.

Posted by: Bilby at October 31, 2008 08:46 PM (8iDn7)

354 I checked the Bush Kerry polls just prior to the elction and the variations were pretty mild between polls (maybe 2-3 percent differences.  For McCain and Obama the variations are INSANE (10-15 point differences!)  Polls indicating McCain will only get 37-39 percent of the vote??  Please.

I think Rush is right, there really is a 10 point anomaly that favors Obama.  If you factor in a 10 point handicap, the race actually looks very, very similar to the results in 2004.  Out of curiosity I chcked the New Hampshire primary polls and it had Obama winning by 7 percent.  Hillary ended up winning by 3, a ten point difference from the poll.

We can win this, but we have to vote, encourage others to vote, and PRAY.  Pray like you've never, ever prayed before.

Posted by: Lincoln Adams at October 31, 2008 08:46 PM (GYHOH)

355  @76:
The only knot in my stomach in the voting booth is remembering just even one baby dead in a Chicago Abortion Clinic ..... the one who died after their birth.
Just one ... of many ... because it might be in conflict with the US Constitution?
No Backbone for an innocent child with a birthday?
No wonder he slaps around and ridicules a voter named Joe.

I don't hold my nose, either. McCain is a man of honor and integrity.
He's on the side of Joe the Plumber, all right.

And he's on the side of Baby Trig Palin.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 31, 2008 08:46 PM (dqf4Z)

356 "and an 8 point swing overnight would be VERY hard to explain"

Not at this point in the ballgame.  It's decision time, when chickensundecideds start coming home to roost.

Posted by: someone at October 31, 2008 08:46 PM (zHoxL)

357 JimD, you're still wrong.  It says "... IN ONE DAY POLL."

Stop being a flaming douche.

Posted by: Editor at October 31, 2008 08:47 PM (p4YSL)

358 But no one gets hurt,K?

Posted by: johnjacobjingleheimersmith and wesson at October 31, 2008 08:48 PM (2rMGM)

359 Was Bush ahead in the polls the weekend before?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 31, 2008 08:49 PM (V1E6L)

360 By the way, I've been debating whether or not to donate to the GOPtrust, but those comments over at Wonkette seal the deal. 

Nice going, sickmotherfuckers.

Posted by: Editor at October 31, 2008 08:49 PM (p4YSL)

361 Anybody think the Dow being up about 1000 for the week and the thaw in the credit markets might have something to do with McCain's rise in the polls. He certainly dropped earlier in the month when the crap hit the fan.

Posted by: mrcaniac at October 31, 2008 08:50 PM (Rbulg)

362 Additionally, they think they are ragging on Bristol when it's Willow in the photo. 

They are some sickmotherfuckers.

Posted by: Editor at October 31, 2008 08:50 PM (p4YSL)

363 Editor go read the headline in RED FONT by the flaming skull and tell me what it says.  No where does it say IN ONE DAY POLL.

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 08:51 PM (j/wD+)

364 See, #356 thinks McCain went from -7 to +1  the "8 point swing"

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 08:53 PM (j/wD+)

365 Rut-Rho....the Obamabots are not going to be happy!

Posted by: Lisa at October 31, 2008 08:55 PM (KqpgS)

366 Additionally, they think they are ragging on Bristol when it's Willow in the photo. Wonkette has been known to goof on shit they don't know about. and get so worked for lameness. They went off on a tangent on Coptix and were so severely busted and they again tried desperately to ignore their embarrassment - Land of the Loss Slestaks. It was an epic face.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 31, 2008 08:56 PM (V1E6L)

367 JimD, I thought you were talking about Drudge.

Posted by: Editor at October 31, 2008 08:57 PM (p4YSL)

368

Clearly in #343 I say "ace's headline" and copied the text IN RED.

I'll take the apology for calling me a flaming douche.

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 09:00 PM (j/wD+)

369 Yes, I see that now.  but I'm not apologizing.  Love means I never have to.  And Barry is full of love.  And gasoline for my car.

Posted by: Editor at October 31, 2008 09:01 PM (p4YSL)

370 Editor, definitely donate to them.  I got an email from them today saying that John Kerry's squawking about their work.  Worth every penny!

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 09:01 PM (xyyHG)

371 OT but I have to tell this story, because I think it says something for the youth around here or else their parents.  I had to leave the house before dark tonight for a while and since I already had the candy, a bag of 45 medium size candy bars and two packages of Halloween pencils. (I started giving out pencils about 7 yrs ago, the kids love them).  Any way, I put a sign up that said take two candies and one pencil, put them in a basket and set it on a table under the porch light.

I thought, what the hell, I already had the candy so if someone came and took it all it was OK and with the sign there, they would know I tried.

When I came home there were candy and five pencils still in the basket.

Posted by: rls at October 31, 2008 09:02 PM (k4h7p)

372

Editor: Yeah, way to stand up and admit a mistake there.  FunkyChicken as well.  No matter though, I'm just an astroturfer.

I don't hold grudges, but I might gloat some

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 09:05 PM (j/wD+)

373 jesus, what a crybaby

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 09:11 PM (xyyHG)

374 You guys are the best, I'm only up to Post 70 and I am dying from the laughter. I can't add any humor, I can't compete with you jokers tonight, I will only say that I was musing about the whole state of affairs tonight, kind of down and out, I said to myself, I just want to see one poll showing McCain ahead, even just for a day, I needed to see ONE, and BAM here it is. On a side note, check out Free Republic, some good pics of Barry running away from the Press. Not very Presidential to run away like that, somebody said if Barry loses he is going to have run away from the people who funded his 600 million dollar adventure. Run Bama, Run.

Posted by: War69DotCom at October 31, 2008 09:16 PM (rxX8B)

375

Ok funky, we will see how you react when somone calls you a flaming douche.

Posted by: JimD at October 31, 2008 09:17 PM (j/wD+)

376 The panic over at that 538 site is hilarious.

Posted by: Bilby at October 31, 2008 09:19 PM (8iDn7)

377

check out the comments to this article for a righteous astroturfer beat-down:

http://tinyurl.com/6lgm5n

beautiful...brought a tear to my eye

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 09:23 PM (xyyHG)

378 "Clearly in #343 I say "ace's headline" and copied the text IN RED. I'll take the apology for calling me a flaming douche." Posted by: JimD at November 01, 2008 02:00 AM I don't like doing this, it's really not my thing...but will you pls give it a rest? You made your point. We already knew what you have been trying to say. Yes, BEFORE you so kindly pointed it out. It's still BIG news and we're happy about it, K? Thanks, now go have a beer or some coffee or whatever makes you happy...

Posted by: freetofly at October 31, 2008 09:26 PM (esdVA)

379 Saw this link on redstate.... don't know who it is, but it sounds kind of interesting in terms of internals. Not sure I believe it, but it does sound fun. http://tinyurl.com/5v49yb Click on "the real polls"

Posted by: Sean at October 31, 2008 09:27 PM (vZzYJ)

380 Re:@180:
I heard the "Rev. Wright Greatest Hits" audio too. (Thank you, Sean Hannity!)
But let's not forget the visual stuff, too--such as the time Wright was lasciviously mimicking Bill Clinton being pleasured by Monica Lewinsky.
What a pervert.
Some "church"!

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 31, 2008 09:28 PM (dqf4Z)

381 What in tarnation happened to my comment?

Posted by: freetofly at October 31, 2008 09:28 PM (esdVA)

382 #265, Michael Savage thought the infomercial might have been the last straw to break Barry's back. He thinks Americans have a pretty good BS detector and that infomercial was too much. Oh, come on, please have McCain win, there is just too much comedy, it would be too fun to watch all of the losers in Grant Park crying, to watch Michelle look like she wants to bite someone's head off, to watch Barry fail to calm the crowd, I mean Jesus, the Messiah thinks he can part the seas, wait until election night when he can't stop the riots.

Posted by: War69DotCom at October 31, 2008 09:29 PM (rxX8B)

383 380, thanks for the laugh, I just hear the audio in my mind, does someone have a Youtube of that, "Bill he was...no he ain't , he was ridddddinnnnng dirty, with Moniccccaaa."

Posted by: War69DotCom at October 31, 2008 09:31 PM (rxX8B)

384 'Twas the night before elections And all through the town Tempers were flaring Emotions all up and down! I, in my bathrobe With a cat in my lap Had cut off the TV Tired of political crap. When all of a sudden There arose such a noise I peered out of my window Saw Obama and his boys They had come for my wallet They wanted my pay To give to the others Who had not worked a day! He snatched up my money And quick as a wink Jumped back on his bandwagon As I gagged from the stink He then rallied his henchmen Who were pulling his cart I could tell they were out To tear my country apart! On Fannie, on Freddie, On Biden and Ayers! On Acorn, On Pelosi' He screamed at the pairs! They took off for his cause And as he flew out of sight I heard him laugh at the nation Who wouldn't stand up and fight! So I leave you to think On this one final note- IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM GET OUT AND VOTE!

Posted by: sickinmass at October 31, 2008 09:31 PM (/i4dU)

385 380:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xb7AVw_no0 Check out the new pastor Otis Moss cheering Wright on, yeah Moss, another one Barry praises.

Posted by: War69DotCom at October 31, 2008 09:32 PM (rxX8B)

386 The million dollar messiahmercial BACKFIRED.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 31, 2008 09:36 PM (V1E6L)

387 ACE, if McCain pulls this election out and saves us from the False Prophet Obama, you deserve a Nobel Prize or a Peabody, or whatever the heck award they give for exemplary journalism. The mainstream media deserves to be tarred and feathered.

Posted by: War69DotCom at October 31, 2008 09:40 PM (rxX8B)

388 This article from Hillbuzz is pretty good.

Posted by: Bilby at October 31, 2008 09:48 PM (8iDn7)

389 > I swallowed hard and did something I never thought I would...I voted for John McCain.

Hey, I'm not a big fan of his, either, but it's not that bad. And it's one HELL of a damn sure lot better than the alternative.

Think of it like this -- McCain can be worked on. He'll listen somewhat, to what his constituents want.

Obama is going to listen to the elitist boobs who we know are in his associations, and to the various interests who've bought and paid for his ears.

You, me, the only way we'd get him to listen is, after having disabled the bodyguards, the mob we were in were headed off to the tar and feathers....

.

Posted by: OBloodyhell at October 31, 2008 09:48 PM (00mT8)

390

Posted by: War69DotCom at November 01, 2008 02:29 AM (rxX8B)

did you listen to Savage last night?  (thursday)  Some poor bastard from MA drew the short straw at the kos klatch and called in to say it wasn't fair that all of the media was so biased FOR McCain.

LOL  it was beautiful

and there must have been a kos or du "action alert" to get people to call Michael Medved yesterday to try to bash McCain over his divorce.  Medved is very polite, but even he got exasperated.

I smell panic

Posted by: funky chicken at October 31, 2008 09:56 PM (xyyHG)

391

Here's some more excellent news:

Gallup finds no increase in first time voters!

http://tinyurl.com/56anhw

In other words, forget about a significant youth turnout for Obama.

I'm linking to a blog that has the Gallup link instead of Gallup directly because it's worth it to read the post directly above it. Serious takedown of FDR's Depression-era failure.

 

 

Posted by: Ampontan at October 31, 2008 10:04 PM (4OiRw)

392 Zero is Jim Jones, also a socialist...totally unelectable, and likely psychotic.


I choose to FIGHT.

Posted by: Kal at October 31, 2008 10:06 PM (OI/G6)

393 In other words, forget about a significant youth turnout for Obama. 1.3 million new Acorn signer uppers?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 31, 2008 10:06 PM (V1E6L)

394

Gallup finds no increase in first time voters!


That's because acorn's job is to vote for the dead/disabled, the registration dump was just to cover for other illicit activity


Posted by: Kal at October 31, 2008 10:09 PM (OI/G6)

395 Pools showing the infomercial didn't make the sale and I suspect BACKFIRED.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 31, 2008 10:10 PM (V1E6L)

396 Poll, not pools.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 31, 2008 10:11 PM (V1E6L)

397 Funky Chicken, I missed that but I will check the audio archives, any idea what hour that call took place during the show? Can anyone picture Reagan, JFK, or TR running away from the media like a scared child? How is Barry going to face up to the Iranian Napoleon, Bin Laden, or Chavez when he runs away from a Polish TV Crew.

Posted by: War69DotCom at October 31, 2008 10:11 PM (rxX8B)

398 The problem is this: this country isn't completely shot.

If it were, if I really felt that this country were sliding down a well-greased chute to oblivion, I'd hand Barack the Acme package with the anvil in it and hop on a plane to Australia or Belize or somewhere further down the alphabet, unhappy and angry but resigned.

But we're not there.  After a couple years of Obama, maybe.  But not now.  And $2 gas (and lower energy costs overall) will do a lot to fix the economy all by itself.

Four years of McCain is a good opportunity to start to clean things up.  Yeah, we'll have to fight to get half a loaf on immigration, on energy policy, and to get carbon taxes stiff-armed down the road a few years until the square wheels finally fall off the global-warming bandwagon.   McCain's long been anathematic to us little-plane pilots for his user-fee stance, but the other guy's no better.  And on the courts, on fiscal restraint, on most of the foreign-relations issues where Bush has been inept and Obama looks like a tanned Carter McCain is about as solid as they get.

So, fingers crossed, because the future depends on a reasonably successful McCain term.

Posted by: mrkwong at October 31, 2008 10:12 PM (G8Eo0)

399 Gallup finds no increase in first time voters! I.E. the bulk of ACORN's VALID cards are change of address. ACORN GTES HUGE amounts of tax-dollars. Screwed we all get.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 31, 2008 10:15 PM (V1E6L)

400 Topsecretk9, wonderful find and well worth posting... and can you please include a link when posting breaking news?

Posted by: Christoph at October 31, 2008 10:48 PM (hawOV)

401 Read this and click on the audio link called "The Real Polls"...maybe an eyeopener???

http://tiny.cc/F5jvQ

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at October 31, 2008 10:49 PM (VYEVW)

402

Topsecretk9: If you're going to dump on the Gallup poll of first time voters, it might actually help if you read it first.

 

Posted by: Ampontan at October 31, 2008 11:01 PM (4OiRw)

403 Ampontan,

If you're going to troll, it might help if you actually present an argument.
Fucking cock sucking douche.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at October 31, 2008 11:21 PM (nOQ1R)

404

403: The cheaper the hood, the gaudier the patter.  

Posted by: Ampontan at October 31, 2008 11:42 PM (4OiRw)

405

#400: Post #391

#401: McCain winning in NJ and within the margin of error in CA? I'd love to believe it...

Interesting idea that some Dems would switch to McC because they think BO is cheating.

Posted by: Ampontan at November 01, 2008 12:15 AM (4OiRw)

406 I live in liberal Newton Ma home of Barney Frank. First year I had NO trick or treaters. Could it be my mcCain/palin lawn sign? Also to a point made before my son is 26 and works real hard and wants to get ahead and said if Obambi is elected the next 20 years are ruined for him. My daughter 23 said she is afraid of terrorists, wants to keep more of her money she will be voting on school in NH. Both my kids were raised in SF and both turned out conservatives!!!! Yeah mom

Posted by: Rachel at November 01, 2008 02:19 AM (4EQPW)

407

Election Night, Grant Park, 2008, 1968 - There is some significance to having it in Grant Park beyond the mere fact that Chicago is where Obama's home is.

Posted by: Pelayo at November 01, 2008 04:32 AM (nw+cE)

408 I voted yesterday, stood in line for an hour and forty five minutes.  If McCain wins we need to make a movie called "Sarah, Joe, and Tito save the world"

Posted by: JCDOC at November 01, 2008 04:50 AM (jYrIw)

409 "Both my kids were raised in SF and both turned out conservatives!!!! Yeah mom"

Posted by: Rachel at November 01, 2008 07:19 AM

Cheers for you! Job well done!

Posted by: freetofly at November 01, 2008 04:53 AM (bvcbu)

410

I cannot belive that not a single ball/brest has been dipped in this goodness until my piggy own!  The Obama Inevitibility meme has been broken.  As Zombie outlines in his/her masterwork <a href="http://tinyurl.com/zombielbb" rel="nofollow">The Left's Big Blunder</a>, the moment someone exposes the lie, it loses it's strength.

It's no longer "Obama can probably win" but "Obama can probably lose".

 

No get out and vote you cocksuckers!

Oh, and

 BALLS=DIPPED

 

Posted by: United States of America at November 01, 2008 05:04 AM (WDySP)

411

I have to admit I voted absentee yesterday. I swallowed hard and did something I never thought I would...I voted for John McCain. I felt very dirty and not the good kind but it had to be done.

No offense Drew but it's this kind of talk that has dragged our ticket down. I have said that from the beginning.  I am very conservative and I get it but we are running against the frickin anti Christ and need to stop bitching about our candidiate and do everything we can to win. Trashing McCain all these months has only helped that prick Obama.

I realize the damage is done now but cant help saying this again. I wonder how much further we ahead we would be had we thought about the damage our words do. We should have done EVERYTHING in our power to stop this evil socialist from gaining power which includes contantly tearing down our guy and demotivating people.

Posted by: bitter, clinging Pennsylvanian at November 01, 2008 05:17 AM (bd68Z)

412 The people at wizbang have done an outstanding job of deconstructing the polling data. The other place to go is stolenthunder.blogspot.com. It'll point out why the major polling companies are so fouled up. DJ Drummond, who runs stolenthunder, is a contributor at wizbang, so his posts are intermingled with the others. The direct postings are at stolen..., so hop on over for a look at why McCain is actually stronger than it appears, and the polls are out of whack.

Posted by: RPL at November 01, 2008 05:25 AM (vgtQm)

413 Posted by: bitter, clinging Pennsylvanian at November 01, 2008 10:17 AM (bd68Z) yep

Posted by: funky chicken at November 01, 2008 05:42 AM (xyyHG)

414 all you had to do was ask.

Posted by: NASCAR Fans, Blue Collar Workers And Men at November 01, 2008 05:49 AM (LJnG/)

415 It sure is nice to see the words "McCain" and "ahead" in the same sentence.  I don't place much emphasis in polls, but I'll take that little scrap & let it flow over me for the day.

Posted by: Twinks at November 01, 2008 05:49 AM (7QUxD)

416 Trashing McCain all these months has only helped that prick Obama.


And McCain's years of trashing his base has helped exactly how?

I'm with you, Drew. I can't wait until this "strange bedfellows" shit is over with and we can start talking and acting like conservatives again.

Posted by: NASCAR Fans, Blue Collar Workers And Men at November 01, 2008 05:53 AM (LJnG/)

417 damn.

/sockpuppet off

Posted by: jadedinga at November 01, 2008 05:55 AM (LJnG/)

418 I am getting the feeling McCain will win in a landslide.  That would be the funniest thing EVER.

Posted by: doug at November 01, 2008 06:00 AM (dDxif)

419

And McCain's years of trashing his base has helped exactly how?

I am not justifying McCain's mistakes. It's just that He is Jesus Christ compared to Obama . We just need to use our heads and realize how terribly bad it will be for us should Obama prevail. I do not believe America will ever be the same once Obama is done with this country. Think about Supreme court judges alone. It just doesn't help to constantly tear our man down. We can all sit and bitch till we have a perfect candidate but just how will that help?

My God think of the consequences.

If you don't see that nothing I can say will make you understand.

Posted by: bitter, clinging Pennsylvanian at November 01, 2008 06:24 AM (bd68Z)

420 oh I understand very well.

I am even making phone calls to get people to vote for him.
The point is that it took an Obama to get many of us to vote for McCain. I am working against Obama, NOT for John McCain.

And President McCain better leave the squishy RINO act behind permanently , if he wants a) to survive this turbulent time in US history and b) continued support from conservatives.  We will have plenty of Dems to pull our government left.

No Eeyore crap, just keepin it real.

Posted by: jadedinga at November 01, 2008 07:01 AM (LJnG/)

421 I think a lot of people who told pollers "McCain can suck my furry beanbags" are now going "well hell I hate the guy and he hates me, but Obama is worse."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 01, 2008 08:02 AM (0+Ggj)

422 What a drama queen. I bet you swallowed hard, Drew. Seriously, McCain, a man of honor, if not a perfect candidate, gave you such pause that even against a racist, Marxist, you felt "dirty"? You really considered NOT voting McCain, given Barry's fraudulent, Socialist candidacy? J@ckoff...

Posted by: JS at November 01, 2008 03:28 PM (juo7P)

423 one day polling for Saturday Obama 52 Mccain 42. Where's the siren drudge?

Posted by: Mccain at November 01, 2008 10:26 PM (vUD/3)

424

It will probably be so bad that we have huge growth in employment, gdp and an increase in membership in the middle class as almost always seems to happen when Democrats run things.

Like under FDR, who gave us the Great Depression.  Like under LBJ.  Like under Carter.

Like in modern-day Philadelphia.  Or New Orleans.  Or Baltimore.  Or East St. Louis.  Or Detroit.  Or Cleveland.  Or D.C.  Or any of the other fourth-world urban shitholes that dot the American landscape.

Keep delusion alive!

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