November 30, 2005

1 For some details on the changes go to a blogger who actually works:

Posted by: max at November 30, 2005 09:32 AM (7K1e9)

2 So it's more like a crumpet then. What the f- do the British have to do with Flight 93?

A serious conservative should be commissioned to create the memorial.

Posted by: compos mentis at November 30, 2005 09:33 AM (xHpUK)

3 "bowl-shaped area," meaning, like, a crater?

Amazing that a crater is still an improvement.

Posted by: SomeJoe at November 30, 2005 09:41 AM (/t5/b)

4 Hey Minimum!! Just because Ace hasn't been published yet and he hasn't posted the often promised second half judging of the poetry contest does not mean he is unemployed! For your information he's employed in the adult film industry and is so efficient they have him working multiple jobs - fluffer, mop boy, and occasional body double when an actor doesn't feel like doing anal.

I got yer back Ace. Um, so to speak.

Posted by: compos mentis at November 30, 2005 09:42 AM (xHpUK)

5 I wonder how long it will take for some of those trees to "die" out, thus recreating the arc of "embrase".

Posted by: rabidfox at November 30, 2005 09:50 AM (CAVPy)

6 It still sounds like a memorial the New York Times editorial board would approve of--no hint that the passengers did anything heroic, or that anger could be any part of a response to their deaths. Very non-judgmental.

A better revision would have been to extend the crescent into a circle, balance it on edge, put intersecting crosshairs in the circle, and aim it at Mecca.

Posted by: utron at November 30, 2005 09:56 AM (VVBQC)

7 I just looked at the "new" design in the November Flight 93 memorial newsletter ( in pdf format)

I can not immediately see any discernable difference from the original memorial, other than the "cresent of embrace" is now CALLED the "bowl".

It's still a stinking red crescent.

Posted by: SarahW at November 30, 2005 10:03 AM (jqVs9)

8 The circle enhances the earlier design by putting more emphasis on the crash site, officials said in the newsletter. A break in the trees will symbolize the path the plane took as it crashed.

Oh, so they made it a circle with a break in it.

i.e., a crescent.

Posted by: Lipstick at November 30, 2005 10:11 AM (uXjP7)

9 I'm okay with it, just as long as they replace those stupid windchimes with something tasteful, like a minaret that plays the call to prayer five times a day. You know, something classy.

Posted by: Sobek at November 30, 2005 10:17 AM (6GK9U)

10 I think the prayer rugs in the middle are a nice touch.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at November 30, 2005 10:25 AM (OSolv)

11 images (cropped from Flight 93 m3morial site):

The new "Bowl ".

It's essentially the same design , but the the red rim has been extended a short distanceon one side, making the break between the two arms of the crescent shorter in distance.

Posted by: SarahW at November 30, 2005 10:26 AM (jqVs9)

12 Or how about a giant screw pointed at Mecca. Or would that be considered offensive?

Posted by: compos mentis at November 30, 2005 10:28 AM (xHpUK)

13 Cuz I know how much compos worries about being offensive.....


Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at November 30, 2005 10:41 AM (OSolv)

14 LOL RWS. Touché my dear. Touché

Posted by: compos mentis at November 30, 2005 11:05 AM (xHpUK)

15 compos...heh.

Why don't we just make it a smiley face and get the whole disrepect thing over with for good?

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at November 30, 2005 01:46 PM (OSolv)

16 The red crescent is only blended in with a few more trees. Both of the crescent tips are still defined exactly as before. The crescent bisector still points to Mecca. There is still an upper section of memorial wall, bisected by the red crescent bisector and containing additional translucent blocks. The Tower of Voices is still an Islamic prayer-time sundial. The whole Flight 93 memorial is still a jihadist shrine! Complete analysis at my link.

Posted by: Alec at November 30, 2005 05:38 PM (p6TL1)


"There are still 44 translucent blocks on the flight path to the crash site, matching the total number of dead, instead of just the forty translucent blocks that are dedicated to the forty murdered Americans."

So that means the memorial has blocks for THE FREAKIN HI JACKERS!!!!!

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at November 30, 2005 07:12 PM (OSolv)

18 I'm not an architect, nor do I play one on TV, but I just don't see what's so friggin' hard about designing an unobjectionable 9/11 memorial. Really, I think most of us could do it. Something pretty, something tasteful, something neutral in most regards (esp. religion). Something nice and unobjectionable everybody could agree with. What is the problem with them?! Why can't they just do this one simple thing right? Do these people wear fucking clown suits to funerals?!! I just Do. Not. Understand.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 30, 2005 07:22 PM (iGWFT)

19 I'm cool with anything they come up.


Except dinosaurs. No dinosaurs at the memorial. Too much controversy.

Posted by: Bart at November 30, 2005 07:48 PM (EixHX)

20 Alec's post belongs 'over the fold' or as a separate post altogether since it makes it clear that the redesign is as bad as the old one.

Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: max at December 01, 2005 04:10 AM (vuEOV)

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