August 31, 2017

Federal Judge, Get This, Blocks Enforcement of Democratically-Passed Texas Sanctuary City Bill
— Ace

The Optimates have decided the public is no longer permitted to pass laws of their own devising.


U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia blocked portions of Senate Bill 4 (SB 4) requiring local law enforcement departments to comply with federal requests to hold unauthorized immigrants in custody. Also blocked: a provision that stopped local departments from implementing policies that would "materially limit" enforcement of immigration laws, the Dallas News reported.

Note that the state law imposes duties on state law enforcement. Specifically, it demands they comply with the federal law.

This judge -- Orlando Garcia -- decided that a state law demanding that state actors comply with federal law runs afoul of federal law.

An aspect of the law permitting police officers to ask about immigration status was not blocked, but the ruling did limit the actions officers would be allowed to take after learning that a person was undocumented – officers could only report the person’s immigration status to federal authorities.

Why? Why can't a state law instruct state law enforcement officers what their duties are?

Here's his "reasoning:"


In a 94-page ruling, Garcia wrote that there "is overwhelming evidence by local officials, including local law enforcement, that SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas."

In other words, illegal non-citizens don't like this so citizens are no longer permitted to pass laws that citizens prefer.

"The Court cannot and does not second guess the Legislature," he continued. "However, I'm a-gonna do it anyway. YOLO, bitches."

I made up the last sentence, but pretty much that's the spirit of it.

Posted by: Ace at 11:26 AM | Comments (438)
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1 Oatmeal!!!

Posted by: Bruce at August 31, 2017 11:28 AM (8ikIW)

2 State law to enforce Federal Law... and a Judge says no.... /facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at August 31, 2017 11:28 AM (NgKpN)

3 Fkn Judges.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2017 11:28 AM (mxS7w)

4 Just to harp on what ace quoted, this is a policy decision "that SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas."" which is up to the legislature to weigh the impact of these bullshit evasory terms. The judiciary determines if things are legal. not if they are good. I wonder if Orlando...garcia...you say? Has some sort of bias here?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 11:29 AM (DQdye)

5 Ignore him. Proceed. You don't seek remedy from an over-reaching Federal Judiciary by going through the Federal Judiciary.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2017 11:29 AM (Xa+bj)

6 Top ten baby.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 11:29 AM (z2mMN)

7 If laws no longer apply...

Posted by: nip at August 31, 2017 11:29 AM (VqJRJ)

8 2 State law to enforce Federal Law... and a Judge says no.... /facepalm *** if trump had his white house staff down, he should start charging these judges what fuck with immigration with treason. You know the left hates treason now, right?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 11:30 AM (DQdye)

9 I put on my robe and wizard hat ...

Posted by: Sultan Orlando Garcia at August 31, 2017 11:30 AM (+INtM)

10 >>Judge Orlando Garcia ...hmmm.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 11:30 AM (MyHEM)

11 Scariest place is, this is in TX. It was one thing in a solid permanent blue state like Hawaii.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at August 31, 2017 11:30 AM (s/EUv)

12 We are not a nation of laws; we are a nation of feewings... *spits

Posted by: Ummm at August 31, 2017 11:30 AM (OPKaS)

13 Ace: "The Optimates have decided the public is no longer permitted to pass laws of their own devising." Uh, that already happened with Proposition 8 in California. Not only did the judges overturn it in California, that make is NATION-WIDE law. Action from voters: California votes to affirm pre-existing statute saying marriage is between one man and one woman. Reaction form the liberal elites: Vote thrown out, law thrown out, all 50 states must obey new ruling.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 11:30 AM (DQ4Fv)

14 I wonder if Orlando...garcia...you say? Has some sort of bias here? With that name? Can't ever make me believe he doesn't.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (b/6cr)

15 The Republican controlled Congress should impeach these judges. I crack myself up.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (mcI77)

16 I don't live in Texas so I can't be outraged by this.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (cAnNx)

17 Here's his "reasoning:" - You left out a T.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (rjrh3)

18 Always wondered is there another Federal law that Leftists think only the Feds can and should handle?

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (pPKG5)

19 Wait now.  The state government told state workers that they have to obey state law which is also federal law.  And judge says no because feelz?


Where am I?  And what have you done with my country?

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (lwiT4)

20 A nation of men, not laws.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (z79tQ)

21 YOLO You Oughtta Love Oatmeal

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (pAr44)

22 that make is = they made it

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (DQ4Fv)

23 I think somebody named Garcia who makes a ruling like this should be investigated tooth and nail. I don't care if it comes off as racist. Fuck them all.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (z2mMN)

24 know your place, citizens

Posted by: Bored383 at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (70HTk)

25 Believe me, this hurts me more than it hurts you, Texas. It's for your own good.

Posted by: Judge Garcia at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (398bZ)

26 This was a Democrat Clinton appointed judge.  This ruling is blatant partensenship and flaunts the law.  This judge should be impeached and removed from the bench.  And TX should appeal immediately.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (mpXpK)

27 15 The Republican controlled Congress should impeach these judges. I crack myself up. *** One of the modern joke setups here "The Republican controlled Congress should " and yuck yucks follow.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 11:31 AM (DQdye)

28 SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas." I missed the "public trust" and "adverse economic consequences" sections in the US Constitution. Must be that pesky "good and plenty" clause.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2017 11:32 AM (veoSD)

29 So law is now optional. Hhhhmmmm Okay.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2017 11:32 AM (LyU5V)

30 >>"The Court cannot and does not second guess the Legislature," We just ignore them.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 11:32 AM (MyHEM)

31 Time for the Executive Branch to declare the Judiciary null and void. If it's really a war, then fire that salvo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 11:32 AM (mbhDw)

32 Judge Orlando Garcia

...hmmm.

I wonder if his car horn plays the "Mexican Hat Dance"?

Posted by: tu3031 at August 31, 2017 11:32 AM (O5Q3r)

33 30 >>"The Court cannot and does not second guess the Legislature," We just ignore them. Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 04:32 PM (MyHEM) Word.

Posted by: WisRich at August 31, 2017 11:33 AM (G0vdT)

34 There are federal laws on interstate kidnapping, so if a perp does this no local police can apprehend a kidnapper?

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2017 11:33 AM (pPKG5)

35 Orlando Yolo Garcia.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 11:33 AM (rjrh3)

36 Forget the lawyers. "First, kill all the judges".

Posted by: Corona at August 31, 2017 11:33 AM (zIb93)

37 Clinton appointee...nough said

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2017 11:33 AM (5y11N)

38 10 >>Judge Orlando Garcia ...hmmm. Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 04:30 PM (MyHEM) *Plays with title of old Warren Oates movie*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 11:33 AM (mbhDw)

39 Was this the last straw? Is it on?

Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2017 11:34 AM (Sfs6o)

40 32 ...hmmm. I wonder if his car horn plays the "Mexican Hat Dance"? Posted by: tu3031 at August 31, 2017 04:32 PM (O5Q3r) It plays "Dixie" and "The Godfather Theme"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 11:34 AM (mbhDw)

41 It's like I woke up in crazy world

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:34 AM (lwiT4)

42 the judge is a racist and an agent of a foreign power, in rebellion against the United States.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 31, 2017 11:34 AM (m5xRz)

43 We have become a goverment ruled by robed Supreme Beings who are not elected.

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2017 11:34 AM (pPKG5)

44 23 I think somebody named Garcia who makes a ruling like this should be investigated tooth and nail. I don't care if it comes off as racist. Fuck them all. *** well, you understand how the thinking goes. You just ignore that all nations are marked by their own particular mix of ethnicities and religions and that by definition each nation is different, thereby meaning that any one nation wants to hijrah to another, there's a mismatch of religions and ethnicities. To US judges, this means that all imigration law is racist because, well, up until 23 years ago or so, the usa was 80% white. whites in a country? that's bad. can't have that. keeping out other folks is bad.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 11:34 AM (DQdye)

45 There are federal laws on interstate kidnapping, so if a perp does this no local police can apprehend a kidnapper? I still don't understand why local cops show up to federal bank robberies.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at August 31, 2017 11:34 AM (b/6cr)

46 Oh crap!

Posted by: Federal Marshals at August 31, 2017 11:35 AM (mcI77)

47 >>SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas. The presence of those he seeks to shield does all that and more!

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 11:35 AM (MyHEM)

48 Why is a Federal judge deciding this, it's a state law. Did it already go through the State Court?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 31, 2017 11:35 AM (6Ll1u)

49 man, trump 2020 keeps gaining steam.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 11:35 AM (DQdye)

50 Judge Orlando Garcia ? Does he have a twin in Hawaii?

Posted by: dantesed at August 31, 2017 11:35 AM (88xKn)

51 42 the judge is a racist and an agent of a foreign power, in rebellion against the United States. Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 31, 2017 04:34 PM (m5xRz) "Whereas...." etc. On parchment in Fraktur.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 11:36 AM (mbhDw)

52 the federal judge is decided the ... what ... of a state law based on it's policy implications? the fukc?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 11:36 AM (DQdye)

53 >>>>>In a 94-page ruling, Garcia wrote that there "is overwhelming evidence by local officials, including local law enforcement, that SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas."
.
.
.Pretty sure this opinion was being written at the exact same time the State law was being written and voted on. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 11:36 AM (+Dllb)

54 OT I know - but relates to a prior thread


1 hr ago Paul Ryan - Facebook


"It is obvious that Antifa protesters are left-wing thugs. Those who are committing violence need to be arrested and prosecuted. They are a scourge on our country."

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:36 AM (lwiT4)

55 The Court cannot and does not second guess the Legislature - Remember when the clerk in Kentucky couldn't Gay Marriage The Gays because the legislators hadn't written laws to allow her to do her job? Good times.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (rjrh3)

56 Was this the last straw? Is it on? Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2017 04:34 PM (Sfs6o) You see the last straw in the past. Ask those unfortunates what the hell they were thinking getting on that boxcar.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (z79tQ)

57 Clinton appointed a lot of loser, anti-democratic asshats, and this is just one more.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (ylUqT)

58 "50 Judge Orlando Garcia ? Does he have a twin in Hawaii?" Zulu as Kono.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (OD2ni)

59 *Plays with title of old Warren Oates movie* Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 04:33 PM (mbhDw) "Cockfighter"? No...wait....there was....something... Bring me....something... Oh,yeah! "Bring Me a Quart of Pinkberry Frozen Yoghurt"

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (NyJwR)

60 Damn. Sheriff David Clark just resigned. I can't find the reason yet.

Posted by: WisRich at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (G0vdT)

61 55 OT I know - but relates to a prior thread 1 hr ago Paul Ryan - Facebook "It is obvious that Antifa protesters are left-wing thugs. Those who are committing violence need to be arrested and prosecuted. They are a scourge on our country." *** it's obvious we need Paul Neilen or whatever that guy was. primary!

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (DQdye)

62

These judges are enemies of the Republic.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (2wRtc)

63 Is Trump our Tribune of the Plebs?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (Az9eA)

64 Hey Judge Orlando Garcia, Kiss my grits!!

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (OD2ni)

65 1 hr ago Paul Ryan - Facebook "It is obvious that Antifa protesters are left-wing thugs. Those who are committing violence need to be arrested and prosecuted. They are a scourge on our country." GFY Pauli

Posted by: Under Fire at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (mcI77)

66 So, quick trip to being overturned at the appealate level

Posted by: Jean at August 31, 2017 11:37 AM (9TU00)

67 The just-pulled-this-fresh-out-of-the-ass-of-leftist-propaganda precedent.

Posted by: Axeman at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (2mC6G)

68 Judge's motive. [ ] Sincere belief that illegal aliens should have more rights than citizens. [ ] Sincere belief that racist white devils will keep people of color from voting [ X ] Vote fraud, baby! Vote fraud!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (Nwg0u)

69 Just go Pinochet & get it over with before things get any worse.

Posted by: josephistan at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (7HtZB)

70 OT I know - but relates to a prior thread 1 hr ago Paul Ryan - Facebook Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 04:36 PM (lwiT4) Low energy. an actual day late.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (z79tQ)

71 Yathink he consulted a "Wise Latina" foist?

Posted by: klaftern at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (RuIsu)

72 Law don't go 'round here lawdog

Posted by: Judge YOLO at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (OPKaS)

73 a state law demanding that state actors comply with federal law runs afoul of federal law My computer just displayed that, then went into an endless loop, then blue screen of death, and just rebooted.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (EgwCt)

74 Can you recall this judge? And would rope be required for said recall?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (Az9eA)

75 In a 94-page ruling, Garcia wrote that there "is overwhelming evidence
by local officials, including local law enforcement, that SB 4 will
erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less
safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences
which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas."
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I believe this was debated in the legislature, and this was the point the opposing side tried to make.  That point was voted down.  The lawmakers took that point into consideration and decided to go with FEDERAL LAW.


Who died and made this judge King?

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:38 AM (lwiT4)

76 the judge is a racist and an agent of a foreign power, in rebellion against the United States. Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 31, 2017 04:34 PM (m5xRz) The judge scum cares more about his ethnic group than he does about the USA. That makes him a traitor. Also, do minorities really want to go that route? If so, let's get it over with.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 11:39 AM (z2mMN)

77 Now, if you will excuse me I have to retire to my chambers to emanate on some penumbras.

Posted by: Judge Orlando Garcia at August 31, 2017 11:39 AM (MyHEM)

78 Grammie, this got will owed only the last thread: 462 Grammie, walk to the restaurant, enjoy your Swedish pancakes with lingonberries no more than once a week, and walk back home. Little secret I learned from a diabetic friend -- ten minutes of walking right after a meal dramatically reduces your need for insulin. Adding this clarification: for non-diabetics this means your body produces less insulin in response to your meal, so you get less fat storage.

Posted by: Emmie at August 31, 2017 11:39 AM (ZapPq)

79 it's like Ryan just noticed what has been going on for months. He'd obviously make a better president than Trump.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 31, 2017 11:39 AM (ILitO)

80 Other than the fact it seems Leftists judges have to weigh on every ruling on every level of government.

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2017 11:39 AM (pPKG5)

81 Pretty sure he was thinking that last sentence too. the bastard.

Posted by: Kitsapbass at August 31, 2017 11:39 AM (sGtp+)

82 There are federal laws on interstate kidnapping, so if a perp does this no local police can apprehend a kidnapper? I still don't understand why local cops show up to federal bank robberies. Posted by: rickb223 Only the racist ones do

Posted by: Jean at August 31, 2017 11:39 AM (9TU00)

83 94 Pages? Did Ace ghostwrite this decision?

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 11:40 AM (MyHEM)

84 55 OT I know - but relates to a prior thread 1 hr ago Paul Ryan - Facebook "It is obvious that Antifa protesters are left-wing thugs. Those who are committing violence need to be arrested and prosecuted. They are a scourge on our country." Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 04:36 PM (lwiT4) Let me know when he apologizes to Trump.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 11:40 AM (cAnNx)

85 So law is now optional.
Hhhhmmmm
Okay.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2017 04:32 PM


No, law is not optional.

Allow us to reeducate you.

A) Law we like, and can use to progress our agenda, is mandatory.

B) Law we don't like is void.

Note: Any given law can be moved from one category to the other instantly and retroactively, depending on how we feel. We are the sole arbiters of this.

Now, hold still for some thorazine spray, and then go sit in the corner and practice your self-criticism and rightthink.

Posted by: Democrats[/i] at August 31, 2017 11:40 AM (ctuyM)

86 79. "will owed only" = autocorrect's version of "willowed"

Posted by: Emmie at August 31, 2017 11:40 AM (ZapPq)

87 Just like it's now a "Given" that Confederate Monuments are bad, berry berry bad It also a "Given" that communities are less safe when illegals are apprehended? "Given" by whom? STOP letting the left set the parameters NOW!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2017 11:40 AM (5y11N)

88 Damn. Sheriff David Clark just resigned. I can't find the reason yet.

Posted by: WisRich at August 31, 2017 04:37 PM (G0vdT)

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What?  Really?  Oh no.  Poor Milwaukee County.  They're going to get stuck with a (real) Democrat.  Bad news for us border counties.  Geez

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:41 AM (lwiT4)

89 The solution is simple. TGE can deputize all the local police as federal officers for purposes of immigration enforcement. Such cross-deputizing is done all the time. In both directions. Ie, federal agents getting deputized as state LEOs.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 31, 2017 11:41 AM (8O3HH)

90 if you hold a copy of the Constitution up to the light you can see the hidden bit that says federal judges can do whatever they want.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 31, 2017 11:41 AM (ILitO)

91 pi]80 it's like Ryan just noticed what has been going on for months. He'd obviously make a better president than Trump. Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 31, 2017 04:39 PM (ILitO) He knows the score. He's just a lying bag of dogshit.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 31, 2017 11:41 AM (mcI77)

92 It also a "Given" that communities are less safe when illegals are apprehended? - That's one of the most incredible things that I've ever read.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 11:42 AM (rjrh3)

93 OK, Your Dishonor, how to we fix this law so our immigration laws are followed?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 11:42 AM (bIwZ6)

94 Speaking of eroding public trust...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2017 11:42 AM (IqV8l)

95 I recently re-saw "Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia". Good movie. Mas muy macho. But, I forgotten just how rapey the Peckinpah movies of that era were. A bit shocked I was. "Straw Dogs" too.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2017 11:43 AM (NyJwR)

96 9
I put on my robe and wizard hat ...

Posted by: Sultan Orlando Garcia at August 31, 2017 04:30 PM (+INtM)


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Oh man, that brings back some damn old funny memories.

Posted by: Corona at August 31, 2017 11:43 AM (zIb93)

97 >> It also a "Given" that communities are less safe when illegals are apprehended? They posit this because other illegals won't be inclined to go to authorities to report crimes. Which they NEVER DO.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 11:43 AM (MyHEM)

98 These judges are enemies of the Republic. Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 04:37 PM (2wRtc) The courts must be purged. With the right wing version of By Any Means Necessary. Congress won't do it, so we have to.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 11:43 AM (z2mMN)

99 Kinda OT:  Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke has resigned.  I think he's heading to a position with the Trump administration or something.

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (8b+oT)

100 1 hr ago Paul Ryan - Facebook "It is obvious that Antifa protesters are left-wing thugs. Those who are committing violence need to be arrested and prosecuted. They are a scourge on our country." - "And Nancy Pelosi approved my Facebooking of this message."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (Nwg0u)

101 Little secret I learned from a diabetic friend -- ten minutes of walking right after a meal dramatically reduces your need for insulin.

Adding this clarification: for non-diabetics this means your body produces less insulin in response to your meal, so you get less fat storage.

Posted by: Emmie at August 31, 2017 04:39 PM (ZapPq)

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Thanks Emmie.  I might just try that.  I've been way-low carb since January and I'm about to eat my own face.  I dream about Swedish pancakes.  It's still nice weather here, so maybe .......


Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (lwiT4)

102 It's a "given" that we need a mandate for private citizens to purchase health insurance.

Posted by: Son of a mailman at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (IqV8l)

103 Sessions should pull this judges security detail.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (mcI77)

104 This judge is a bad person. And bad things should happen to him. There, I said it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (Az9eA)

105 That last part is the essence of judicial lawlessness and usurpation, ace, glad you highlighted it (incl. with your own "enhancements"). Just look at this. Sorry, you stupid federal "judge", you are not a legislator, an executive branch official, or an inter-agency commission making a judgement call on *policy* choices. You are simply a judge, in the far inferior branch of the three branches, with a very limited purview - the law and constitution. The practical impact, or speculation thereon, of laws and policies duly enacted by the other branches is no part of your competence, or authority, to even say a word about. Been a while, so I'll dust it off ... Judicial coup status: [X] Intact [ ] Other than intact

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (fZlu3)

106 Judge Garcia is a Clinton appointment. Took Emilio Garza's seat when he went up to the 5th Circuit. Garcia also overturned the Texas gay marriage ban.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (OD2ni)

107 In a 94-page ruling, Garcia wrote that there "is overwhelming evidence by local officials, including local law enforcement, that SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas." Emanations of penumbras.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (oVJmc)

108 I see on WZ that Jeb Bush is pleading with Trump to continue TFG's executive order amnesty program. Uh, that would (should) be a big fat FYNQ. Oh, and clap this....

Posted by: Said every Irishman everywhere at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (jxbfJ)

109 I said on the last thread that the law does not matter. Ditto fir this thread.

Posted by: USNtakim at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (0OmEj)

110 man, trump 2020 keeps gaining steam.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 04:35 PM


It's going to be an early night in the Steam Room here at our home location in Obama City.

Posted by: Man's Country[/i] at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (ctuyM)

111 >>Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 04:43 PM (z2mMN) Easy there Tiger. We have that line you are dancing on for a reason.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (MyHEM)

112 Isn't "Orlando Garcia" just another way of saying "erosion of the public trust"?

Posted by: Axeman at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (2mC6G)

113 Seriously, even discounting the necessary fraud, uninsured motorists, unsafe vehicles, DUIs, etc., just getting 1000 people (any people) off the road every day will reduce the danger to other motorists.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (rjrh3)

114 36 Forget the lawyers. "First, kill all the judges". Hey, no line cutting!!

Posted by: Journolists at August 31, 2017 11:44 AM (4hIeD)

115 Kinda OT: Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke has resigned. I think he's heading to a position with the Trump administration or something.

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2017 04:44 PM (8b+oT)

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I sure hope so.  He's too good to lose.  Except now we're going to get stuck with some armpit Dem in Milaukee Co.

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:45 AM (lwiT4)

116 But, I forgotten just how rapey the Peckinpah movies of that era were.

A bit shocked I was.


"Straw Dogs" too. Posted by: naturalfake
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So much disturbing rape garbage in 70s movies.  Straw Dogs was one of the worst. 

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2017 11:45 AM (8b+oT)

117 No one will dare overrule me. If they do, I'll just invoke the Right to Dignity...

Posted by: Judge Garcia at August 31, 2017 11:45 AM (398bZ)

118 >>I said on the last thread that the law does not matter. Ditto fir this thread. I Pine for the days when the Rule of Law was more than a trope.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 11:45 AM (MyHEM)

119 What do you call the guy that finished last in his class at law school?
"Your honor".

Posted by: tu3031 at August 31, 2017 11:45 AM (O5Q3r)

120 Nominated by Bill Clinton. Surprise! Cock fag!

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2017 11:45 AM (A7DN1)

121 That was nice of Nancy Pelosi to let Paul Ryan post that anti-antifa Facebook post. She may have saved his political career!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2017 11:45 AM (NyJwR)

122 I just watched the original Mexican El Mariachi, the girl was in no way hot enough. But it's a good flick.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 31, 2017 11:46 AM (6Ll1u)

123 The court does not second guess the legislature...it tells the peons to shut their pie holes and like it. Their duly passed laws by the legislature, and signed by the executive only apply if it is in accordance with the wishes of treasonous ivy league mandarin class. The state of Texas should build the biggest, grandest most Texas sized trebuchet in the history of man, then tar and feather 'judge' Garcia and proceed to launch him as far over the border as modern materials science and physics allows.

Posted by: Rather Not at August 31, 2017 11:46 AM (oPogG)

124 "Damn. Sheriff David Clark just resigned. I can't find the reason yet." At the risk of being flamed, did that guy ever actually do his job? I liked him, but he always seemed to be on TV.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 11:46 AM (OD2ni)

125 I dream about Swedish pancakes. It's still nice weather here, so maybe .......
Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 04:44 PM


What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Lutefisk[/i] at August 31, 2017 11:46 AM (ctuyM)

126 Grammie, I don't think the walk completely erases the consequences of pancakes, but it should lessen the impact.

Posted by: Emmie at August 31, 2017 11:46 AM (ZapPq)

127 Is this judge a US citizen?

Posted by: Chris M at August 31, 2017 11:46 AM (eAZVt)

128 I wonder if his car horn plays the "Mexican Hat Dance"? La Cucaracha.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 11:47 AM (bIwZ6)

129 Is this judge a US citizen? - Ha. I'd forgotten about that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 11:47 AM (rjrh3)

130 In a 94-page ruling, Garcia wrote that there "is overwhelming evidence by local officials, including local law enforcement, that SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas." Amazing. A federal judge is overriding a properly-enacted law because THE JUDGE doesn't think it suits public policy. WTF??? Isn't it the role of the legislature to decide how the public policy of the nation is best served? This guy needs to be impeached.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 11:47 AM (Mouru)

131 Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 11:47 AM (2wRtc)

132 I dream about Swedish pancakes. It's still nice weather here, so maybe .......
Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 04:44 PM


What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Lutefisk at August 31, 2017 04:46 PM (ctuyM)

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About 4 levels of hell down from there.


Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:48 AM (lwiT4)

133 Ace, have you seen this? If I'm understanding this correctly, an Arizona judge is saying that, even though the President used his Constitutional power to pardon on Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Arpaio isn't done until the judge says he is done. The judge is demanding that Arpaio file more briefs. "U.S. District Court Judge Susan Bolton canceled former Sheriff Joe Arpaio's upcoming sentencing hearing for his criminal contempt-of-court conviction, telling attorneys not to file replies to motions that were pending before his recent presidential pardon. "However, Bolton on Tuesday stopped short of throwing out the conviction based solely on Arpaio's request. Instead she ordered Arpaio and the U.S. Department of Justice, which is prosecuting the case, to file briefs on why she should or shouldn't grant Arpaio's request." http://bit.ly/2xwmIWy Am I wrong here? The legal stuff is thick enough that I am not competent to figure out what it all means. P.S. I originally tried to post a Hot Take here from "Occupy Democrats" but bit.ly said it could not shorten links from that site. I have never seen that error before.

Posted by: mr_jack at August 31, 2017 11:48 AM (M59SC)

134 128 Is this judge a US citizen? Posted by: Chris M at August 31, 2017 04:46 PM (eAZVt) Interesting... through his actions, the Judge is aiding and abetting Illegal aliens to stay in the country.... which is still a felony. Paging Jeff Sessions, or whoever is the US Attorney for Texas...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 31, 2017 11:48 AM (NgKpN)

135 Judge Orlando was pretty good when he with Dawn.

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2017 11:48 AM (HgMAr)

136 "126 I dream about Swedish pancakes. It's still nice weather here, so maybe ....... Posted by: grammie winger" My daughter bought some swedish fish last week. Damn I forgot how good they were.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 11:48 AM (OD2ni)

137 SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas."" Whereas having a buttload of M3-13 gang bangers will make communities safe, and propel the economy of Texas sky-high.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i] at August 31, 2017 11:49 AM (SRKgf)

138 The law, is what I say it is. The Anti Federalists were 100% right. I'll be right back. I'm going across the street to piss on Hamilton's grave.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2017 11:49 AM (A7DN1)

139 "Is this judge a US citizen?" You're allowed to ask that, but you can't do anything about it. I have spoken.

Posted by: Judge Garcia at August 31, 2017 11:49 AM (398bZ)

140 Wouldn't a white judge who showed a history of bias against blacks be audited to see if he should be impeached? If judges like this, and local judges in the "sanctuary cities" (who give violent criminals light sentences merely so they won't get deported) are motivated by racial bias they should be investigated and impeached. I don't want to be ruled over by a bunch of mini-Sotomayors. The same goes for gaystapo judge Walker Vaughn who shot down Prop 8. This goes well beyond being a "hack" or "incompetent" or being a misguided bleeding heart liberal.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 11:49 AM (/qEW2)

141 Grammie, I don't think the walk completely erases the consequences of pancakes, but it should lessen the impact.

Posted by: Emmie at August 31, 2017 04:46 PM (ZapPq)

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I could just do it once in the Fall and then once again in the Spring.  My body latches onto carbs like a dog with a bone.  Losing them requires a chainsaw.

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:49 AM (lwiT4)

142 It also a "Given" that communities are less safe when illegals are apprehended? - That's one of the most incredible things that I've ever read. Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes at August 31, 2017 04:42 PM (rjrh3) --- And something you can hear on almost any given night on news channels--and that's even the standard answer from Juan on The Five, or any liberal that they have on Tucker or Hannity. Who knew that prevailing lefty opinion was now a basis for law?

Posted by: Axeman at August 31, 2017 11:49 AM (2mC6G)

143 Another Executive Order issued from the bench. How about a single mass impeachment of these traitorous scum? Yeah, I know I'm dreaming with the eunuchs we have running the GOPee.

Posted by: ShainS at August 31, 2017 11:50 AM (F9ebX)

144 1 hr ago Paul Ryan - Facebook ......... Why am I not surprised this fag has a Facebook page.

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2017 11:50 AM (HgMAr)

145 Emanations of penumbras. - Careful with those because that's how you get Godzilla.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 11:50 AM (Nwg0u)

146 You gotta bake the cake

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 31, 2017 11:50 AM (ZeYrL)

147 Paging Jeff Sessions, or whoever is the US Attorney for Texas... I've given up on that boney assed old man. We need Clarke to take his place.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 31, 2017 11:50 AM (mcI77)

148 My daughter bought some swedish fish last week. Damn I forgot how good they were.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 04:48 PM (OD2ni)

===========================



I used to buy Swedish Fish in the 4 lb bag and ship them over to Iraq for my son.  He had to hide them because they would mysteriously disappear.


Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:51 AM (lwiT4)

149 Paul Ryan is gayer than even Shep Smith.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 31, 2017 11:51 AM (8O3HH)

150 What I'm most amazed by is that it took 94 pages to write "Because I'm a Latino liberal".

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 31, 2017 11:51 AM (g3N5V)

151 I AM THE LAW!

Posted by: Judge Orlando Garcia Dredd at August 31, 2017 11:51 AM (HgMAr)

152 48 Why is a Federal judge deciding this, it's a state law. Did it already go through the State Court?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 31, 2017 04:35 PM (6Ll1u)



ACLU

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 31, 2017 11:51 AM (mpXpK)

153 The state of Texas should build the biggest, grandest most Texas sized trebuchet in the history of man, then tar and feather 'judge' Garcia and proceed to launch him as far over the border as modern materials science and physics allows. Posted by: Rather Not at August 31, 2017 04:46 PM (oPogG) Careful, you might offend garrett.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 11:51 AM (z2mMN)

154 119 >>I said on the last thread that the law does not matter. Ditto fir this thread. I Pine for the days when the Rule of Law was more than a trope. Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 04:45 PM (MyHEM) Kritarchy.... Rule by Judges...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 31, 2017 11:51 AM (NgKpN)

155 My daughter bought some swedish fish last week. Damn I forgot how good they were.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 04:48 PM


^^^^  THIS.

Posted by: Lutefisk[/i] at August 31, 2017 11:51 AM (ctuyM)

156 The reasoning is that if you apprehend illegal immigrants they would be less compelled to snitch on other illegal immigrants when they commit a crime. I can't even believe I just wrote that. Wait! I could be a judge!

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2017 11:52 AM (A7DN1)

157 I'll be right back. I'm going across the street to piss on Hamilton's grave. +++ When will this desecration of our hallowed past end?

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 31, 2017 11:52 AM (ZeYrL)

158 Another repeat, but darn it it's directly relevant, and lurkers like me, they really really like me: * DOJ/FBI should pick areas of cooperation with state/local law enfarcement* where reciprocity will now apply (cooperation will be directly proportional to degree of cooperation with DHS/ICE on immigration enforcement) - it would be about 10 min. before they are whining like little girls * hard appropriations language conditioning selected federal funds (big-ticket items) on certification from AG/DHS sec. of full cooperation with DHS/ICE on immigration enforcement * prosecutions of select lawless locals whose actions have resulted in disaster, such as those who released cons with ICE detainers who then went on to murder (Steinle case in SF, another case in Santa Rosa just recently) - has the DOJ ever heard of "civil rights denial" cases? I can help refresh their understanding. Do those things, Trump admin., if you are serious about protecting the country and restoring rule of law.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 11:52 AM (fZlu3)

159 I wonder if his car horn plays the "Mexican Hat Dance"? La Cucaracha. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 04:47 PM (bIwZ6) Candida

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2017 11:52 AM (HgMAr)

160 Wonder what this judge wears under his robe? ....

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 31, 2017 11:52 AM (8O3HH)

161 What is the leap in logic here in terms of the often repeated "illegal immigrants make us safer"? Can anyone explain how giving sanctuary to illegals makes a community "safer"?

Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek at August 31, 2017 11:52 AM (jxw6R)

162 * law enfarcement - new term courtesy of Anonosaurus Wrecks

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 11:53 AM (fZlu3)

163 >>>>55 OT I know - but relates to a prior thread


1 hr ago Paul Ryan - Facebook


"It is obvious that Antifa protesters are left-wing thugs. Those who are
committing violence need to be arrested and prosecuted. They are a
scourge on our country."

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 04:36 PM (lwiT4)



Let me know when he apologizes to Trump.
.
.
.And Trump is batting 1,000 on his tweets and statements but not a single person on the left, the msm, or the gop(e) will credit him with that.

It started with the obama is tapping my calls and has continued right through this.  He.has.been.right.every.single.time.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 11:53 AM (+Dllb)

164 Law infarction?

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 31, 2017 11:53 AM (8O3HH)

165 Amazing. A federal judge is overriding a properly-enacted law because THE JUDGE doesn't think it suits public policy. - Just keep your eye on the swinging utopia. You're gettig sleepy. Sleepy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 11:54 AM (Nwg0u)

166 I wonder if his car horn plays the "Mexican Hat Dance"?

La Cucaracha.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 04:47 PM (bIwZ6)
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La Bamba   (which actually is a pretty good song)

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:54 AM (lwiT4)

167 I wonder if his car horn plays the "Mexican Hat Dance"?

La Cucaracha.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 04:47 PM (bIwZ6)

Candida

Next, you'll be complaining about my furry dice and spinny wheels...

Posted by: Judge Orlando Garcia at August 31, 2017 11:54 AM (O5Q3r)

168 this guy drive a lowrider to court? with dingleballs in the back window?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 31, 2017 11:54 AM (KP5rU)

169 167. Chicken Dance.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 31, 2017 11:55 AM (fA1SL)

170 100 I hope

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2017 11:55 AM (pPKG5)

171 The policy effects of diminishing the publics' trust in the judiciary, though, goes unexplored.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 31, 2017 11:55 AM (DQdye)

172 It also a "Given" that communities are less safe when illegals are apprehended? - That's one of the most incredible things that I've ever read. Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes at August 31, 2017 04:42 PM (rjrh3) The communities that feel less safe are the ones overrun with illegal alien criminals. Thing is, we should WANT them to feel less safe so they'll get rid of these parasites who don't belong here in the first place. Get rid of their enablers too.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 11:55 AM (z2mMN)

173 162 What is the leap in logic here in terms of the often repeated "illegal immigrants make us safer"? Can anyone explain how giving sanctuary to illegals makes a community "safer"? Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek at August 31, 2017 04:52 PM (jxw6R) Oh, boy. They're gonna call you bad names.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 31, 2017 11:56 AM (398bZ)

174 I decorate my office with chi chi balls and sombrero's.

Posted by: Judge Orlando Garcia at August 31, 2017 11:56 AM (mcI77)

175 Wait! I could be a judge! - Well, I don't know. Would you recognize a right to tequila?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 11:56 AM (Nwg0u)

176 169. And a decal of Our Lady of Guadalupe beneath the name GARCIA in gothic capital script.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 31, 2017 11:56 AM (fA1SL)

177 Much like presidents in my country, Federal judges are only appointed for life.

Posted by: Franz Sanchez, Chairman and Member, Lesser-Known Bond Villains, Local 519 at August 31, 2017 11:57 AM (rznWS)

178 Gee I wonder what would happen if a citizen ignored the law and wrote a lengthy 94 page reason why he did it?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2017 11:57 AM (A7DN1)

179 We don't need no steenking badges.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 31, 2017 11:57 AM (8O3HH)

180 The KKK and Antifa agree on the racist principle that nonwhites are somehow incompatible with the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution. They only disagree on the remedy: disenfranchise nonwhites, or eliminate "excess" freedoms (like 1a and 2a).

Posted by: Donkey Joto at August 31, 2017 11:57 AM (0D9O2)

181 Rhomboid, just saw this: He was woken and proceeding to his post when the first salvo about knocked him over. He recalled seeing the red shapes (shells) arching away toward the target, and hits (flashes) vs. misses (nothing) on the horizon. Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 04:35 PM (fZlu3) -- I'm not a history or military buff, and something I was struck by was realizing the distances at which the big ships could engage one another in WWII. I seem to remember reading something about 25 miles or so. That was mind blowing to me.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 11:57 AM (4E7oS)

182 And a decal of Our Lady of Guadalupe beneath the name GARCIA in gothic capital script.
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The font wars, they have begun



Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 11:57 AM (lwiT4)

183 The judge volunteered, didn't he? Any illegals in need of emergency shelter will be housed at Casa Garcia.

Posted by: fluffy at August 31, 2017 11:58 AM (U0v/A)

184 What is the leap in logic here in terms of the often repeated "illegal immigrants make us safer"? Can anyone explain how giving sanctuary to illegals makes a community "safer"? Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek Less chance of a rovng band of antifa rioters camping out

Posted by: Jean at August 31, 2017 11:58 AM (9TU00)

185 @12: "We are not a nation of laws"

Well, you say that....try doing something we don't much like.

Posted by: The Powers That Be at August 31, 2017 11:58 AM (rznWS)

186 I kinda miss the cookie discussion. Going to go check the last thread, see if anyone's mentioned peanut butter/M&M's...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 31, 2017 11:58 AM (Az9eA)

187 Definitely some blue sky over Texas on the news

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2017 11:58 AM (pPKG5)

188 The state of Texas should build the biggest, grandest most Texas sized trebuchet in the history of man, then tar and feather 'judge' Garcia and proceed to launch him as far over the border as modern materials science and physics allows. Posted by: Rather Not at August 31, 2017 04:46 PM (oPogG) Interesting mix of the medieval and modern there If that thing were to happen, would it be appropriate to yell "chuck you" as he goes?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2017 11:59 AM (z79tQ)

189 Repeating and amplifying: the Tea Party was people being polite; electing TGE is raising our voices; what follows will make Pinochet look like an anarcho-communist gender-queer with a tumblr account.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 31, 2017 11:59 AM (fA1SL)

190 La Bamba (which actually is a pretty good song) Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 04:54 PM (lwiT4) CULTURAL APPROPRIATOR!!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 11:59 AM (Mouru)

191 So...since the Progtards claim that sanctuary zones make everyone safer because illegals feel safer to snitch on the bad guys, how come the "good" illegals don't seem to be turning-in the thugs who have previously committed multiple felonies in the US, and and have been deported and re-crossed multiple times??? The answer is the "good" illegals don't give a sh!t about "bad" illegals doing bad things to non-illegals. What does Alma Gutierrez, an illegal, care if her illegal cousin living next door, who already has several DUI arrests (and a Prog judge always let him off), and has been deported three times, gets drunk and drives every night and sooner or later will run into and kill some white person on the other side of town? She couldn't care less. This sanctuary zone "community safety" crap is total crap and the Progs know it.

Posted by: Gref at August 31, 2017 11:59 AM (AMIL/)

192 And TX should appeal immediately. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 31, 2017 04:31 PM (mpXpK) ... You misspelled "secede."

Posted by: TexasDan[/i] at August 31, 2017 11:59 AM (yL25O)

193 I don't care if it's racist, I don't vote for anyone with a Hispanic name for any local or state office. This is Dallas. All of those flipping candidates are supporting illegals over me.

Posted by: sunny-dee at August 31, 2017 11:59 AM (QAOZh)

194 Interesting mix of the medieval and modern there If that thing were to happen, would it be appropriate to yell "chuck you" as he goes? Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2017 04:59 PM (z79tQ) "Adios, maricon!"

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2017 12:00 PM (0mRoj)

195 149 My daughter bought some swedish fish last week. Damn I forgot how good they were. Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 04:48 PM (OD2ni) =========================== I used to buy Swedish Fish in the 4 lb bag and ship them over to Iraq for my son. He had to hide them because they would mysteriously disappear. Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 04:51 PM (lwiT4) FYI Pinnacle has a "Gummy" flavored vodka. The image on the bottle is a red fish shape.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 12:00 PM (cAnNx)

196 @23: " I think somebody named Garcia who makes a ruling like this should be investigated tooth and nail."

He's totally clean and honest.

Posted by: James Comey, Super Sleuth at August 31, 2017 12:00 PM (rznWS)

197 177; uncle, they are everywhere here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 31, 2017 12:01 PM (KP5rU)

198 It's so hard to tell the good illegals from the bad illegals. Can we make them wear black and white sombreros?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2017 12:01 PM (A7DN1)

199 Kritarchy.... Rule by Judges...
Posted by: Don Q. at August 31, 2017 04:51 PM


Some kritharuspication would help us figure out the future.

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at August 31, 2017 12:01 PM (ctuyM)

200 We will reach a point in the near future when phrases like "Judge Orlando Garcia blocked..." won't mean a damn thing, unless Judge Orlando has divisions to help him do the blocking.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 12:01 PM (TOk1P)

201 This has to be the death warrant for lifetime appointments.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 31, 2017 12:02 PM (xfb67)

202 Judge Tony Orlando Garcia Dredd

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2017 12:02 PM (HgMAr)

203 Who says there's no equality of opportunity in America, this young, enterprising Black man just broke into a field previously dominated by whites- https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/08/31/kansas- citys-indian-creek-serial-murderer-nabbed-killing- 5th-victim/ (remove extra spaces)

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2017 12:02 PM (NyJwR)

204 189 The state of Texas should build the biggest, grandest most Texas sized trebuchet in the history of man, then tar and feather 'judge' Garcia and proceed to launch him as far over the border as modern materials science and physics allows. Posted by: Rather Not at August 31, 2017 04:46 PM (oPogG) ... Pay per view may have killed boxing, but OTOH the market for trebuchet executions is wide open. I'm pretty sure modern technology allows us to launch him at a speed which would induce spontaneous combustion of the tar, but to an altitude at which combustion is difficult, just to make it sporting.

Posted by: TexasDan[/i] at August 31, 2017 12:02 PM (yL25O)

205 La Bamba (which actually is a pretty good song) --- For some reason that reminds me of Los Lobos' f*cking GREAT cover of Tom Waits' "Jockey Full of Bourbon." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFABsrCR8ZI

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 12:02 PM (4E7oS)

206 @31: "Time for the Executive Branch to declare the Judiciary null and void.

If it's really a war, then fire that salvo."

Well over a century late on that one. 

Posted by: Marbury, Madison, McCullough & Maryland at August 31, 2017 12:02 PM (rznWS)

207 Leftists are going to riot when PDT announces the end of DACA. Would not want to be in SoCal this evening.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 31, 2017 12:03 PM (mcI77)

208 seem to remember reading something about 25 miles or so. That was mind blowing to me. +++ Nautical miles

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 31, 2017 12:03 PM (ZeYrL)

209 What is the leap in logic here in terms of the often repeated "illegal immigrants make us safer"? Can anyone explain how giving sanctuary to illegals makes a community "safer"? Diversity is strength islam is peace Gender is a societal construct If you have questions about any of these fundamental truths, keep them to yourself, citizen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:04 PM (Mouru)

210 >>>A federal judge is overriding a properly-enacted law because THE JUDGE doesn't think it suits public policy. He's behaving tribally, ferally. But if he grunts out the proper legalese noises, people will be fooled into thinking that there were actual legal principles involved in his decision.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 12:04 PM (/qEW2)

211 199. Yep. Same here. That's how you know not to bother asking for insurance if the other guy hits your car.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 31, 2017 12:04 PM (fA1SL)

212 It's so hard to tell the good illegals from the bad illegals. Can we make them wear black and white sombreros? Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2017 05:01 PM (A7DN1) ........... The good illegals are usually wearing tight skirts and spike heels. But a sombrero would be nice, too.

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2017 12:04 PM (HgMAr)

213 The news is bad enough for humans, but now this... Antidepressants found in fish brains in Great Lakes region

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman [/i] at August 31, 2017 12:04 PM (EgwCt)

214 Candida
Posted by: Judge Orlando Garcia at August 31, 2017 04:54 PM


I'm so going to cover that in a duet with Bread.

Posted by: Lena Dunham[/i] at August 31, 2017 12:04 PM (ctuyM)

215 The rule of law can't be allowed to stand in the way of 'progress'. America and civilization must be destroyed. Let's not pretend this is not happening, good people. It is the zombie apocalypse we have been preparing for. Well, some of us.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2017 12:04 PM (zLDYs)

216 Next, you'll be complaining about my furry dice and spinny wheels... Posted by: Judge Orlando Garcia at August 31, 2017 04:54 PM (O5Q3r) Hydraulic lifters. "Your Honor, is that your low-rider in the court parking lot?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i] at August 31, 2017 12:05 PM (SRKgf)

217 >> Candida That's a yeast infection, right?

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 31, 2017 12:05 PM (8O3HH)

218 Ignore them. Proceed. You don't seek remedy from an over-reaching Federal Judiciary by going through the Federal Judiciary. Posted by: ScoggDog at August 31, 2017 04:29 PM (Xa+bj) This. Fuck him. What are the police going to do? Arrest themselves?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 31, 2017 12:05 PM (/H6uR)

219 "B 4 will erode public trust and make many communities..."

F***ing sick of hearing Dems yap about communities as if is some sacred, holy word that must never be questioned.  In this case those "communities are mostly overcrowded crime ridden apartments and  run-down rentals.  It would be better  if these . places didn't even exist.  Yet we are supposed to believe they is some beautiful, quaint places with neighbors happily living, working sharing in their little corner of Americana.  What a load of BS.  I doubt most of their liberal  friends have never set foot in those places and would not walk through them on a dare.  

Posted by: Ripley at August 31, 2017 12:06 PM (MxEKc)

220 >>I said on the last thread that the law does not matter. Ditto fir this thread. There are no good illegals. They are all parasites on our economy.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 12:06 PM (MyHEM)

221 Has anybody mentioned that the Donald Trump family is donating one million dollars from the family itself to assist Texas?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2017 12:06 PM (J+eG2)

222 I don't care if it's racist, I don't vote for anyone with a Hispanic name for any local or state office. This is Dallas. All of those flipping candidates are supporting illegals over me. Posted by: sunny-dee at August 31, 2017 04:59 PM (QAOZh) In case it hasn't already been done, I'd like to extend an official invitation to you to the CenTexMoMee in Corsicana in October. Shoot me am email of you'd like.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 12:06 PM (z2mMN)

223 "213 Yep. Same here. That's how you know not to bother asking for insurance if the other guy hits your car." When I was in school, I worked for my brother's insurance office. He explained that the "U" in your auto policy was illegal alien insurance.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 12:06 PM (OD2ni)

224 We have a lot of Mexican cowboys here, we're a big horse town. They are building 94 multi-million dollar homes up behind me with horse trails and stables, think the horses are going to take care of themselves?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 31, 2017 12:06 PM (6Ll1u)

225 Now what would happen if TX ignored this ruling. And the judge has a freakout and tries to charge Abbott or various LEOs in some way. Can this administration say "Um, no."?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 12:07 PM (/qEW2)

226 I'm sure his ethnicity has nothing to do with his ruling....

Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2017 12:07 PM (rmVvL)

227 @96: "But, I forgotten just how rapey the Peckinpah movies of that era were.

A bit shocked I was."

*chuckle*

Posted by: A Boy And His Dog at August 31, 2017 12:07 PM (rznWS)

228 What is the leap in logic here in terms of the often repeated "illegal immigrants make us safer"? Can anyone explain how giving sanctuary to illegals makes a community "safer"? Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek The leftist argument is that our wetback friends will avoid the police instead of coming forward with information about crimes because they don't want to be busted and deported. Of course, ghetto denizens don't have to worry about deportation, and they don't come forward either, so there's that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i] at August 31, 2017 12:07 PM (SRKgf)

229 Antidepressants found in fish brains in Great Lakes region Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 31, 2017 05:04 PM (EgwCt) Making Lake Michigan salmon the snack that smiles back. Until you bite their heads off.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2017 12:07 PM (z79tQ)

230 Fucking Paul Ryan. A day late to the party and he's still $5 short.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:07 PM (Mouru)

231 People dressed as dinosaurs are in D.C. protezting because . . . Ah, hell, your guess is as good as mine. https://tinyurl.com/yawxlq3j

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)

232 All I know is that I have to quite often pull out my driver's license for one damned thing or another. Apparently all the illegals don't have to proof shit. It's true: There are two Americas.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 31, 2017 12:08 PM (a5HEa)

233 Hydraulic lifters. "Your Honor, is that your low-rider in the court parking lot?" Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 31, 2017 05:05 PM (SRKgf) .......... Estacionamiento doble.

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2017 12:08 PM (HgMAr)

234 U.S. Government to Subjects: You WILL NOT be permitted to live free and unperturbed by US. We have an apparatus for everything to funnel you down one path, no diversions. And then you will die. That is all.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2017 12:08 PM (H8S+R)

235 prove.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 31, 2017 12:09 PM (a5HEa)

236 "I have personally interviewed illegal aliens on the street so I can vouch that my conclusions are the truth."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:09 PM (Mouru)

237 @99: "With the right wing version of By Any Means Necessary."

Not really seeing how "Surrender, Collaborate, Cleaning Up Our Trash After Our Protests, and Keep Trying to Vote Our Way Out of This" is really going to accomplish much, especially given that their record of failure is so far unblemished.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 31, 2017 12:09 PM (rznWS)

238 "The Court cannot and does not second guess the Legislature," he continued. "However, I'm a-gonna do it anyway. YOLO, bitches." Exactly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 31, 2017 12:09 PM (QQ+il)

239 This. Fuck him. What are the police going to do? Arrest themselves? Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 31, 2017 05:05 PM (/H6uR) Isn't that how they got to Sheriff Arpaio?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor [/i][/u][/s] at August 31, 2017 12:09 PM (ihmYw)

240 Love how this hack-tivist judge, just coincidentally named Garcia, says it's not his job to second-guess the legislature, right after telling them that he's invalidating the law the legislature just passed because he thinks it's a bad law. F*ck you, Garcia. It's not your call to decide if the law makes TX cities "less safe" or "erodes public trust" or causes "adverse economic consequences." Those are concerns for the legislature, not judges. Your job, and your only job, is to determine if the law is constitutional. It clearly is. So it's absolutely irrelevant that you and your illegal alien homies don't like the law, don't want the law, or don't think the law is a good idea.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2017 12:09 PM (QbiyL)

241 >>>>>I said on the last thread that the law does not matter. Ditto fir this thread.


There are no good illegals. They are all parasites on our economy.
.
.
.Ignoring the law to enforce the law never has a good outcome.  I have lived in Countries where this has happened and the results were less than optimal.

At this point we have ample proof that there is a soft Coup against Trump and Conservative States.  What we do next will be judged by history.

  

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (+Dllb)

242 Can't we just find a judge who will outlaw the Republican party and thereby save us millions of $ in salaries?

Posted by: SFGoth at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (dZ756)

243 Check out this nasty girl band from the '70's called "Kleenex." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp8NYBUBnss

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (WoXhx)

244 The news is bad enough for humans, but now this... Antidepressants found in fish brains in Great Lakes region PETA will carp about this but I'll have to mullet over.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (Mouru)

245 Moron Robbie, will have to go look it up, but West Virginia was the first to detect and fire on the Japanese ships, and the range was something what you said. Highly recommend Neptune's Inferno by Hornfischer, account of the unbelievable surface-action brawls around Guadalcanal (last series of such engagements in history). But since you brought up long range, one of my WWII favorite anecdotes, from that book: young radar tech asks CO of a column, as that CO orders everyone to hold fire on Japanese column that is unaware of US ships' presence, even as the columns draw very very close together - "sir, what are we going to do, board them?"

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (7Ml7x)

246 People dressed as dinosaurs are in D.C. protezting because . . . Ah, hell, your guess is as good as mine. What an amazing, spontaneous, grassroots protest.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (oVJmc)

247 151 What I'm most amazed by is that it took 94 pages to write "Because I'm a Latino liberal". Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 31, 2017 04:51 PM (g3N5V) --------------------- No. "Because I am a leftist." As for Latinos, a solid majority are firmly against illegal immigration. It is largely their communities that are ruined by the lawless aliens and their job prospects that are diminished. But the judge isn't concerned with the fate of Latino (or other) CITIZENS. He just wants to keep the barrios "safe" for illegals.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (0jtPF)

248 And here are the Mo-Dettes to freak you out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0JCoMYpiA0

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (WoXhx)

249 When I review a law, it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.

Posted by: U.S. District Judge Humpty Garcia at August 31, 2017 12:10 PM (pvjTE)

250 >> All I know is that I have to quite often pull out my driver's license for one damned thing or another. Apparently all the illegals don't have to proof shit. No. They just pull out your Driver's License and Social Security Card, too. The identity fraud alone is reaason enough to put a full stop to this shit. Not to mention the violent crime, disease resurrection, and Federal Subsudues for Non-Citizens.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 12:11 PM (MyHEM)

251 Paul Ryan -- following the trail blazed by Nanzi Pelosi

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:11 PM (Mouru)

252 Appointed by Bill Clinton, hmm.

Posted by: Nancy's Left Tit at August 31, 2017 12:11 PM (R5lpX)

253 The leftist argument is that our wetback friends will avoid the police instead of coming forward with information about crimes because they don't want to be busted and deported. That's why there are wise guys. When you can't go to the police because you are a criminal, you go to the Patron.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 31, 2017 12:11 PM (QQ+il)

254 Locally we just had an Illegal who had been tossed out of the Country twice kill his Girlfriend... Worse part of the story is Sheriff had him in jail and told ICE who wanted him and instead of the 48 hours they are supposed to keep him they kept him ,get this, 16 minutes... Did I mention he killed his Girlfriend after he was released?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:11 PM (O2RFr)

255 Antidepressants found in fish brains in Great Lakes region Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 31, 2017 05:04 PM (EgwCt) What kind of fish and when does the season open? Asking for a fr...oh never mind.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 31, 2017 12:12 PM (/H6uR)

256 The one thing I've seen change during my 20ish year career as a lawyer is judges are ruling much more based on their own personal feelings, then based on what the law actually says and is. Its an amazing trend and the reason for the trend is there are just so few consequences for getting something wrong and getting reversed at an appellate level. It used to be that a reversal was humiliating and could seriously adversely effect a judge's ability to rise in the ranks but nowadays, judges seem non-plussed by reversals and if they have the right politics (ie if their rulings, however wrong and in contrast to the law, signal the right kind of virtue- see the 9th Circus and Hawaiian judges) then being wrong constantly is actually a resume builder, especially on the federal bench, with a liberal picking the judges.

Posted by: Baboo the Oceleot at August 31, 2017 12:12 PM (2CG5J)

257 Did Pinochet ever have a trebuchet?

Posted by: Chris M at August 31, 2017 12:12 PM (eAZVt)

258 245 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 05:10 PM (+Dllb) Whatever an individual does after he/she jumps our border is irrelevant. The act of entering the country without permission is a criminal act, making the foreign national committing that act a criminal by definition. Period. Full stop. We are either a nation of laws or we are not. And if not, then we are not a nation anymore.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:12 PM (mbhDw)

259 Federal Marshals will have this asshole buried so deep he may never see daylight again.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 31, 2017 12:12 PM (mcI77)

260 The Optimates have decided the public is no longer permitted to pass laws of their own devising. Old news. California voted against gay marriage twice in public referendums, and the courts overruled them, along with four thousand years of legal precedence.

Posted by: Socratease at August 31, 2017 12:13 PM (FqHs5)

261 Did Pinochet ever have a trebuchet? Yes. It was operated by his weapons attache.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:13 PM (Mouru)

262 261 Did Pinochet ever have a trebuchet? Posted by: Chris M at August 31, 2017 05:12 PM (eAZVt) I believe I concocted "Pinochet trebuchet" some weeks back. But still. Heh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:13 PM (mbhDw)

263 >>It used to be that a reversal was humiliating and could seriously adversely effect a judge's ability to rise in the ranks Hi! Nice to meet you.

Posted by: Affirmative Action at August 31, 2017 12:13 PM (MyHEM)

264 If and when TGE cancels DACA, a judge somewhere will be found to rule he can't do that. And nothing will change.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 31, 2017 12:13 PM (fA1SL)

265 The leftist argument is that our wetback friends will avoid the police instead of coming forward with information about crimes because they don't want to be busted and deported. _____________________ Yes, but the problem is that the criminals who prey upon illegal aliens are almost always illegal aliens too. So if we were actually enforcing our immigration laws, these illegal alien criminals would not be in the U.S. preying upon other illegal aliens, because NEITHER group would be living here in the first place.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2017 12:14 PM (QbiyL)

266 260 The one thing I've seen change during my 20ish year career as a lawyer is judges are ruling much more based on their own personal feelings The Law is reason free from passion.... Famous sayings that are not heeded...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:14 PM (O2RFr)

267 Just wondering if the IRS  would be willing to overlook and forgive  my not paying Federal taxes  since that would make me more likely to report crimes.

Posted by: Ripley at August 31, 2017 12:14 PM (MxEKc)

268 Safe Spaces!!

Posted by: KentAllard at August 31, 2017 12:14 PM (TQw9b)

269 So it's the People v The Media, The Establishment and The Judiciary. Nice to have it all spelled out.

Posted by: Decaf at August 31, 2017 12:14 PM (35LZK)

270 Is it too early say we're well and truly effed! First it was the tyranny of the minority, now it's the tyranny of the bench!

Posted by: ADM Corn Subsidy Conressional Donor [/i][/u][/b][/s] at August 31, 2017 12:14 PM (gwPgz)

271 this young, enterprising Black man just broke into a field previously dominated by whites- https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/08/31/kansas- citys-indian-creek-serial-murderer-nabbed-killing- 5th-victim/ - Paul Ryan is outraged by the racist random murders of white people and will say so just as soon as Nancy Pelosi gives him the OK.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 12:14 PM (Nwg0u)

272 Pinochet trebuchet has cachet

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 31, 2017 12:14 PM (fA1SL)

273 -
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Did Pinochet ever have a trebuchet?
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Yes. It was operated by his weapons attache.
 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 05:13 PM

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who had a long mustache.
(doesn't quite work)

Posted by: irright at August 31, 2017 12:15 PM (pMGkg)

274 268 Hi! Nice to meet you. Posted by: Affirmative Action at August 31, 2017 05:13 PM (MyHEM) "Pleasure's all ours!" - - Roberts, Kennedy, Baader-Meinhoff, Kegel, Briar and Sotomizer LLC

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:15 PM (mbhDw)

275 If and when TGE cancels DACA, a judge somewhere will be found to rule he can't do that. And nothing will change. I have cleared my docket.

Posted by: A District Court Judge Somewhere In Hawaii at August 31, 2017 12:15 PM (Mouru)

276 280 If and when TGE cancels DACA, a judge somewhere will be found to rule he can't do that. And nothing will change. Trust me it will be immediate

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:15 PM (O2RFr)

277 Pinochet trebuchet has cachet Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 31, 2017 05:14 PM (fA1SL) Just beware of the ricochet.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:16 PM (Mouru)

278 Happy hour at Hooter's. Teh boobehs make the marginal nachos quite satisfactory. Cold PBR never hurt anything either.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 31, 2017 12:16 PM (g3N5V)

279 The British in the Malay had the best trebuchet.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 12:16 PM (MyHEM)

280 Antidepressants found in fish brains in Great Lakes region Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 31, 2017 05:04 PM (EgwCt) So Luca Brasi "fell asleep" smiling?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:16 PM (mbhDw)

281 The SCOTUS can impeach federal judges at will.

We at least need some sort of accelerated "He's clearly off his meds" fast track for these cases.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 31, 2017 12:16 PM (FhXTo)

282 In a 94-page ruling, Garcia wrote that there "is overwhelming evidence by local officials, including local law enforcement, that SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas." Courts don't get to make those decisions, that's what legislatures are for. Obvious violation of separation of powers.

Posted by: Socratease at August 31, 2017 12:17 PM (FqHs5)

283 266 Did Pinochet ever have a trebuchet? Yes. It was operated by his weapons attache. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 05:13 PM (Mouru) IRC, it was made of papier mâché.

Posted by: Get in on the bad puns while the gettin' is good at August 31, 2017 12:17 PM (oQQwD)

284 I like a modest little pinochet when the weather gets warm.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:17 PM (Mouru)

285 A Mexican Judge and a Hawaiian Judge walk into a bar. Bartender says: "Sorry, no donkeys or cabana boys tonight."

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2017 12:17 PM (HgMAr)

286 PETA will carp about this but I'll have to mullet over.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 05:10 PM


And I'll have to rabidly flounder around until the puns are fin-ished.

Posted by: The Moroccan Donkey[/i] at August 31, 2017 12:17 PM (ctuyM)

287 Happens in CA all the time. Death penalty, gay marriage, anything basically. Go Bears??

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at August 31, 2017 12:17 PM (jsvaD)

288 Judge Garcia is just trying to make this a better, safer country.

Posted by: Michael Moore at August 31, 2017 12:17 PM (/qEW2)

289 Maybe the Fifth Circuit will issue one of their ARFKM? injunctions this weekend. They would be kind of mad since it is Labor Day I bet.

Posted by: Lester at August 31, 2017 12:17 PM (LfJIn)

290 there "is overwhelming evidence by local officials, including local law enforcement, that SB 4 will erode public trust and make many communities and neighborhoods less safe" and that "localities will suffer adverse economic consequences which, in turn, will harm the state of Texas." Which while it may be true, is irrelevant to his jurisdiction. It doesn't matter in his case, judges don't get to make that kind of call. Vacate, impeach.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:18 PM (39g3+)

291 "Yes, but the problem is that the criminals who prey upon illegal aliens are almost always illegal aliens too. So if we were actually enforcing our immigration laws, these illegal alien criminals would not be in the U.S. preying upon other illegal aliens, because NEITHER group would be living here in the first place." ---------- How is it that logic is easy peasy for us commoners but so hard for the ruling classes?

Posted by: Decaf at August 31, 2017 12:18 PM (35LZK)

292 @258: "Locally we just had an Illegal who had been tossed out of the Country twice kill his Girlfriend"

How did he kill her twice?

Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 31, 2017 12:18 PM (rznWS)

293 114 degrees right now in So Cal. This sucks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:18 PM (Mouru)

294 "268 >>It used to be that a reversal was humiliating and could seriously adversely effect a judge's ability to rise in the ranks" This guy is a lifer on the lower court and doesn't care. He knows he is going no further. I once had a case before Judge Sweet in the SDNY that was reversed. He was 90 and obviously did not care and gave us all a hearty "Welcome back, Gentlemen" at our first hearing after reversal.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 31, 2017 12:18 PM (OD2ni)

295 "sir, what are we going to do, board them?" Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 05:10 PM - I've got it next in line. I'd checked it out and realized that I would need time to take it in, so I ordered it and it's waiting in the library. I like his writing style a lot. He hooked me with Tin Can when he told about the farmboy (iirc) asking a superior of the ship he was assigned to "how often do these things sink?" and the captain replied "Oh, usually just once."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 12:18 PM (rjrh3)

296 "Locally we just had an Illegal who had been tossed out of the Country twice kill his Girlfriend" How did he kill her twice? Killed her. Dug her up. Killed her again.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at August 31, 2017 12:18 PM (b/6cr)

297 J.J. Sefton: "We are either a nation of laws or we are not. And if not, then we are not a nation anymore." Finally, someone gets it. We are the world's flophouse financed by our great- great- great- great- great- grandchildren who have yet to be conceived... if they are permitted to be conceived. Law is a quaint notion imposed upon those not of the Borg.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2017 12:18 PM (H8S+R)

298 So what exactly are "The Specialists" special at?

Posted by: tu3031 at August 31, 2017 12:19 PM (O5Q3r)

299 Does FoxNews have a spell checker? A grammar checker? Miley Cyrus ... "Miley Cyrus was broke down in tears " ... was broke down in tears? Was broke down in tears? Is this some kind of Ebonics thing, or what? I was broke down in tears when I read it. I was! Was I!

Posted by: goon at August 31, 2017 12:19 PM (EaQ6/)

300 298 @258: "Locally we just had an Illegal who had been tossed out of the Country twice kill his Girlfriend" How did he kill her twice? A definite run on words... He was arrested for battery on said Woman that he did finally kill...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:19 PM (O2RFr)

301 Posted by: Baboo the Oceleot at August 31, 2017 05:12 PM (2CG5J) Baboo is 100% correct in saying being wrong on the law but right on the liberal feelzz is the path forward for judges. If you follow, you're a severe constructionist. If you follow your feelz, it's only a matter of time. It's an audition.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2017 12:19 PM (z79tQ)

302 That judge has got cucarachas in the cabeza.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 12:19 PM (Nwg0u)

303 I think I read somewhere that the average Pinochet is only 5.4 inches when measured from the stink star.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 31, 2017 12:19 PM (e0z2i)

304 >>: "Locally we just had an Illegal who had been tossed out of the Country twice kill his Girlfriend" The first time he killed her softly, with his song.

Posted by: Roberta Flack at August 31, 2017 12:19 PM (MyHEM)

305 People dressed as dinosaurs are in D.C. protezting because . . . Ah, hell, your guess is as good as mine. I love you. You love me.

Posted by: D.C. Barney at August 31, 2017 12:20 PM (IqV8l)

306 Killed her. Dug her up. Killed her again. Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2017 05:18 PM (b/6cr) Excitable Boy!

Posted by: They all said at August 31, 2017 12:20 PM (z79tQ)

307 This is the essence of judicial lawlessness (probably the worst kind). And no, the answer is not reversal on appeal. Not any more. Not when there is not even a nod towards law or legitimate process. The various "rulings" interfering with the president's clear unchallenged plenary power to regulate admissions to the country ("travel ban") didn't even cite law in most cases. And they included things like "intent" and CAMPAIGN STATEMENTS. Absolutely ridiculous. The political difficulty is understood, but it's arguable that Trump violated his oath by *complying* with any of those rulings. His oath is to the constitution, not to an unworkable, arbitrary, and completely confected "judicial review" that dares to usurp executive power, thereby shredding the constitution.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 12:20 PM (7Ml7x)

308 Decaf: "How is it that logic is easy peasy for us commoners but so hard for the ruling classes?" The illogic isn't over until the illegal wins.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2017 12:20 PM (H8S+R)

309 Posted by: Baboo the Oceleot at August 31, 2017 05:12 PM (2CG5J) Look at his Tufted Ears!

Posted by: Archer at August 31, 2017 12:21 PM (MyHEM)

310 303 J.J. Sefton: "We are either a nation of laws or we are not. And if not, then we are not a nation anymore." Finally, someone gets it. We are the world's flophouse financed by our great- great- great- great- great- grandchildren who have yet to be conceived... if they are permitted to be conceived. Law is a quaint notion imposed upon those not of the Borg. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2017 05:18 PM (H8S+R) So we are sort of living in that infinite, slo-mo nanosecond of time between the bullet exiting the barrel and striking Archduke Franz Ferdinand? Or is it that we are no longer a nation of laws but still most are drunk on the illusion that we still are and refuse to sober up?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:21 PM (mbhDw)

311 It used to be that a reversal was humiliating and could seriously adversely effect a judge's ability to rise in the ranks It's a shame we can't institute some sort of point system for judges: if they get overturned a certain number of times, they automatically get removed from the bench and disbarred, never to practice law again. How much proof is needed that they don't know what they're doing?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 12:21 PM (bIwZ6)

312 270----Yes, but the problem is that the criminals who prey upon illegal aliens are almost always illegal aliens too. So if we were actually enforcing our immigration laws, these illegal alien criminals would not be in the U.S. preying upon other illegal aliens, because NEITHER group would be living here in the first place. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2017 05:14 PM (QbiyL) ----------------------------- BINGO!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2017 12:21 PM (0jtPF)

313 310 >>: "Locally we just had an Illegal who had been tossed out of the Country twice kill his Girlfriend" I know, I know, I screwed up on that one! The point is this is a "sanctuary" city and the Police only held him for 16 minutes... Within a week he had killed his Girlfriend... Only once...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:21 PM (O2RFr)

314 This here is whacha call, yer Goal-Orientered Judicial Reasoning.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2017 12:22 PM (Mouru)

315 People dressed as dinosaurs are in D.C. protezting because . . . Ah, hell, your guess is as good as mine.

Are their fucking service animals dressed as dinosaurs too?

Posted by: tu3031 at August 31, 2017 12:22 PM (O5Q3r)

316 I bet Miley give such good head. Just look at that hairlip look that she has going. And that nose-singing that she does, just makes my nether regions engorged.

Posted by: goon at August 31, 2017 12:22 PM (EaQ6/)

317 310 >>: "Locally we just had an Illegal who had been tossed out of the Country twice kill his Girlfriend" The first time he killed her softly, with his song. Posted by: Roberta Flack at August 31, 2017 05:19 PM (MyHEM) "Strumming her brains with an ice pick...."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:22 PM (mbhDw)

318 Antidepressants found in fish brains in Great Lakes region - I read a decade or so ago that looking for trace amounts of medications was one of the easiest ways for water and wastewater utilities to track leaks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 12:22 PM (rjrh3)

319 My only question is did Obama foment this behavior?

Or did he just release what was already there?

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 12:22 PM (2wRtc)

320 Posted by: Baboo the Oceleot at August 31, 2017 05:12 PM (2CG5J) Serpentine ! Serpentine !

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at August 31, 2017 12:23 PM (vmsda)

321 Go Bears?? Posted by: The Invisible Hand at August 31, 2017 05:17 PM (jsvaD) Where? Nobody wants 'em.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 31, 2017 12:23 PM (z79tQ)

322 The one thing I've seen change during my 20ish year career as a lawyer is judges are ruling much more based on their own personal feelings, then based on what the law actually says and is. ... Posted by: Baboo the Oceleot I've heard the terms 'balancing' (feelings) vs. 'bright line' (conformity to the law as it is).

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 12:23 PM (/qEW2)

323 325 My only question is did Obama foment this behavior? Or did he just release what was already there? Both... He just accelerated it...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:23 PM (O2RFr)

324 317 It used to be that a reversal was humiliating and could seriously adversely effect a judge's ability to rise in the ranks It's a shame we can't institute some sort of point system for judges: if they get overturned a certain number of times, they automatically get removed from the bench and disbarred, never to practice law again. How much proof is needed that they don't know what they're doing? Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 05:21 PM (bIwZ6) Term limits. For everyone in all branches.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:23 PM (mbhDw)

325 @312: "Excitable Boy"

Posted by: They all said at August 31, 2017 05:20 PM (z79tQ)


The bone cave was a nice touch.  Or so I hear - never actually saw it.

Posted by: Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner at August 31, 2017 12:23 PM (rznWS)

326 So we are sort of living in that infinite, slo-mo nanosecond of time between the bullet exiting the barrel and striking Archduke Franz Ferdinand? Or is it that we are no longer a nation of laws but still most are drunk on the illusion that we still are and refuse to sober up? ============= So two things to keep in mind: there's a lot of ruin a nation and like bankruptcy you go broke slowly and then . . .all at once.

Posted by: george will at August 31, 2017 12:23 PM (/xLiQ)

327 As for Latinos, a solid majority are firmly against illegal immigration. It is largely their communities that are ruined by the lawless aliens and their job prospects that are diminished. But the judge isn't concerned with the fate of Latino (or other) CITIZENS. He just wants to keep the barrios "safe" for illegals. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2017 05:10 PM (0jtPF) Is that why 70 percent of them voted for the Beast? Admittedly I don't spend as much time around Hispanics as I'd like (especially the ladies) but I just don't see this big opposition to illegals.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 12:24 PM (z2mMN)

328 I would rather be borg. Me and Seven, all night long.

Posted by: goon at August 31, 2017 12:24 PM (EaQ6/)

329 off pretentious dungaree hating sock

Posted by: simplemind at August 31, 2017 12:24 PM (aukhi)

330 Moron Robbie, great! Tin Can is outstanding. Also when you can read his Ghost Ship about the USS Houston survivors. Pretty wide-ranging but very interesting, ends up mostly being about the Burma railroad.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 12:24 PM (7Ml7x)

331 >>>>> 245 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 05:10 PM (+Dllb)

Whatever an individual does after he/she jumps our border is irrelevant.

The act of entering the country without permission is a criminal act, making the foreign national committing that act a criminal by definition. Period. Full stop.

We are either a nation of laws or we are not. And if not, then we are not a nation anymore.
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.And you just proved my point.  The law is the law.  Right now this Judge's ruling is the "law" no matter how much we all disagree with it.  If we ignore that ruling we are guilty of no longer following the law.

We the State of Texas needs to appeal this ruling while complying with this stupid a$$ injunction during the appeal or we turn into obama and his Justice Department that we complained about on here constantly.

If we don't do that.....we are no longer a Nation of laws.  Can't have it both ways.

At some point this is going to all breakdown and it will get ugly.  My family lived through that point in the Philippines and it got nasty quick.  Luckily they pretty much left Subic Bay alone but there armed rouge bands of anti-marcos thugs roaming around shooting people and generally looking for trouble. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 12:25 PM (+Dllb)

332 Baboo reminds me of Frisky Dingo. It was sort of a pre-Archer Archer. I think Ray voiced the main character. Very funny show.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - SJWs Destroyed My Garden Because I Grew Heritage Tomatoes [/i] [/b] at August 31, 2017 12:25 PM (rjrh3)

333 Why do all these illegals want to come to racist, homophobic, unfair and oppressive America? They should relish the fact that they can be sent home to a more tolerant and prosperous nation like Mexico. Leftists and Antifas hate America and point out its many flaws constantly. Why can't the illegals understand what a terrible place this is to live. They can't have an easy life here, with all the white supremacists running around. Which is it? The leftists can't have it both ways. Why would they want the poor illegals to have the right to stay in such a terrible nation? Also, the press briefing today about Hurricane Harvey contained at least 3 questions about the illegals and whether they could partake in the goodies when all of this horror is over. Made me sick. The press is more concerned about illegals getting checks than Americans suffering. Such Dickheads.

Posted by: MeMyselfandI at August 31, 2017 12:25 PM (oAXUX)

334 285 The British in the Malay had the best trebuchet. Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 05:16 PM (MyHEM) ... The trebuchet in Calais launched the magistrate less his toupee.

Posted by: TexasDan[/i] at August 31, 2017 12:25 PM (yL25O)

335 OT/ But Sheriff Clarke resigned from His job...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:25 PM (O2RFr)

336 Hurrah! Hurrah for the Confederacy! HURRAH! Down with General Grant! Hurrah for General Lee! LEE!  Ha ha! God is with us because he hates the Yanks too. HURRAH!

Posted by: Judge Garcia at August 31, 2017 12:25 PM (eLttb)

337 >> Me and Seven, all night long. All of us and Seven, all night ling. Nice thing about a Collective.

Posted by: Locutus of borg at August 31, 2017 12:25 PM (MyHEM)

338 Hate to say it, but it's time to ignore a lawless judge or two.

Posted by: forest at August 31, 2017 12:26 PM (4ExtI)

339 Antidepressants. How about oxytocin? Rush mentioned this yesterday and I was reading it about. Some of our betters wrote a paper arguing that Westerners should be forced dosed oxytocin to counter xenophobia. The "love hormone" makes you more trusting of strangers. I'm not making this up. These loons, if they could, would mass drug us for mind control purposes. You know those old dystopian sci-fi scenarios. They are going to come true.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at August 31, 2017 12:26 PM (8O3HH)

340 337 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 05:25 PM (+Dllb) I left out the salient words "just and stable law" and "administered and respected in good faith. Bumpy ride ahead, yo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:26 PM (mbhDw)

341 This judge -- Orlando Garcia -- decided that a state law demanding that state actors comply with federal law runs afoul of federal law. It's well past time that judges like this started getting impeached and thrown off the bench.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 31, 2017 12:27 PM (rZ+mb)

342 It used to be that a reversal was humiliating and could seriously adversely effect a judge's ability to rise in the ranks Yeah it seems to be turning into a judicial version of civil disobedience and some kind of social justice badge of honor. There really really needs to be a pushback against judges, which will be terrible for our culture, but they're forcing us into it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:28 PM (39g3+)

343 >>>>>337 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 05:25 PM (+Dllb)


I left out the salient words "just and stable law" and "administered and respected in good faith.

Bumpy ride ahead, yo.
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.Been there and did that and the point everyone seems to forget is that you never know how it turns out until it's over.  People die and it's not always the bad guys. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 12:28 PM (+Dllb)

344 I'm not certain that we should stay within the lines any more. I don't see the benefits of not burning their villages to the ground, metaphorically speaking, of course. So as not to be banned, I would like to say that I got nothin' but love for 'em. I was lovin' them before they even knew what hit'em.

Posted by: goon at August 31, 2017 12:29 PM (EaQ6/)

345 344 Hate to say it, but it's time to ignore a lawless judge or two. Posted by: forest at August 31, 2017 05:26 PM (4ExtI) How would that work? The ball theoretically is in the President's court, but like trying to deal with a bureaucracy that is insubordinate and traitorous, how can he say "I'll see you in court" when the court is so obviously part of the same traitorous insubordination. He can sack the judiciary, but that would entail calling in National Guardsmen to physically remove the judges and/or clap them in irons and replace them or just dissolve their courts. And then all bets are well and truly off.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:29 PM (mbhDw)

346 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 05:25 PM (+Dllb) That sounds so 1990's. The new paradigm is the ruthless use of whatever power you have. Do try to keep up.

Posted by: Democrats at August 31, 2017 12:29 PM (z79tQ)

347 The Optimates have decided the public is no longer permitted to pass laws of their own devising. We're used to this in Oregon. Any law the people vote into being and pass which the leftist elites do not care for, some judge throws out for *mumble mumble constitution*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:29 PM (39g3+)

348 We're kind of busy with a hurricane and flood right this minute, but we'll get around to this Garcia guy in due time. Guess you forgot it's the Fifth Circuit, not the Ninth, podnah.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at August 31, 2017 12:29 PM (JZJ9v)

349 the press briefing today about Hurricane Harvey contained at least 3 questions about the illegals and whether they could partake in the goodies when all of this horror is over. Made me sick. The press is more concerned about illegals getting checks than Americans suffering ============ the press is all into the cuck thing. Its sort of the same thing. It excites them to see, and cheer on illegality that displaces and disadvantages those to whom those rights actually belong. They are, in the very classical sense of the word, perverted. Like the orthodox jewish guy said, dubyky (?) possessed by evil spirits.

Posted by: simplemind at August 31, 2017 12:30 PM (nM4SQ)

350 350 .Been there and did that and the point everyone seems to forget is that you never know how it turns out until it's over. People die and it's not always the bad guys. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 05:28 PM (+Dllb) TGWS: I wasn't saying "bring it on." I was merely warning about the place we seem to be headed if not in already. And I do not relish the outcome you describe at all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:30 PM (mbhDw)

351 "We are either a nation of laws or we are not. And if not, then we are not a nation anymore."

Or is it that we are no longer a nation of laws but still most are drunk on the illusion that we still are and refuse to sober up?
===

I want a nation of laws. We are a republic and the American Constitution promises that We the People govern our country.

The government doesn't have money. It has our money.
And we govern via ballot box.

And we elect shit. Over and over. And act amazed when they screw us again and again.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 12:30 PM (2wRtc)

352 Am I wrong here? The legal stuff is thick enough that I am not competent to figure out what it all means. P.S. I originally tried to post a Hot Take here from "Occupy Democrats" but bit.ly said it could not shorten links from that site. I have never seen that error before. Posted by: mr_jack at August 31, 2017 04:48 PM (M59SC) ________________ No, the judge is not refusing to recognize the presidential pardon. Arpaio's lawyers asked her to vacate some other crap that was pending, and they also asked her to set a hearing date. The judge basically just complied with their request. Prof. Jacobson at Legal Insurrection spells it out here: https://tinyurl.com/y8g8xbt7

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2017 12:30 PM (QbiyL)

353 My only question is did Obama foment this behavior? Or did he just release what was already there? Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 05:22 PM (2wRtc) More likely this is yet another example of- The Shambling Cultural Zombie of the Never-To-Be Hillary! Presidency They really thought that they had everything locked in place and Hillary! would hammer home the Cultural Revolution started by Obama. But Trump's Election interfered with that plan. And Reality still refuses to co-operate with their fascist fantasies, so- they keep trying to force the issue by doing what they would if Hillary! were President. But, Hillary. Is. Not. President. And. Never. Will. Be. They just look like insane assholes, i.e.. See Antifa. This judge needs to be impeached. His ruling is not based on American Law.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2017 12:31 PM (NyJwR)

354 what getting tiring is the large number of SLOW drivers.  10-30% under speed limit.  all seem to be (I am profiling here) well dressed people of Hispanic heritage.  Can not get anywhere.  Esp with the traffic jams around all the gas stations.  lines on the streets.  Idiots.  I gassed up Monday.  what did they think would happen when the Houston area flooded.  plenty of gas, just not in the pumps.  trucks can not get there to get it.

Posted by: arbitrary turn back at August 31, 2017 12:31 PM (8RQER)

355 67 So, quick trip to being overturned at the appellate level

Posted by: Jean at August 31, 2017 04:37 PM (9TU00)


I'm quite sure that will happen.


http://tinyurl.com/ybf9mt5k


The Fifth Circuit is pretty strong. They upheld the preliminary injunction against the DAPA program.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 31, 2017 12:31 PM (jK8Z7)

356 357 Like the orthodox jewish guy said, dubyky (?) possessed by evil spirits. Posted by: simplemind at August 31, 2017 05:30 PM (nM4SQ) "The Dybbuk" is an I.B. Singer story, IIRC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:31 PM (mbhDw)

357 Love how this hack-tivist judge, just coincidentally named Garcia, says it's not his job to second-guess the legislature, right after telling them that he's invalidating the law the legislature just passed because he thinks it's a bad law. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2017 05:09 PM (QbiyL) --- You can read the most activist decisions and they'll have "This is NOT an activist decision" and follow up with something like "because this is not an activist court" (??). But apparently activist judges in America think their jedis. These weren't the droids I was looking for!

Posted by: Axeman at August 31, 2017 12:31 PM (2mC6G)

358 Dumbasses. Rule of law is all that protects them from me. Posted by: Kristophr at August 31, 2017 05:27 PM (Vkf+s) Being more than 10 miles away is all that protects them from me.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 12:32 PM (z2mMN)

359 J.J. Sefton: "Or is it that we are no longer a nation of laws but still most are drunk on the illusion that we still are and refuse to sober up?" That one, I think. The nation is behind, temporally, the government. "We" don't truly appreciate just how lawless we have become, and by the time the inertia develops to make contemporary change, it will be too late. We think the country still operates like an hour long TV drama with justice at the end. That remains our illusion. The discretion of what is and what is not prosecuted is the fatal flaw in our misunderstanding of the State and its relationship with the People. Government is sufficiently weaponized now to selectively prosecute threats without suffering consequences. It's immune from itself because the component parts are corrupted and self-castrating either by choice or by default. So, yeah, technically there's still a Constitution and all sorts of rules at every level of jurisdiction; but it's really just a bunch of words to be folded, bent, or ignored on an as needed basis. We are well and truly f***ed.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2017 12:32 PM (H8S+R)

360 360 And we elect shit. Over and over. And act amazed when they screw us again and again. Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 05:30 PM (2wRtc) Well then the system is broken and the Tree of Liberty is past due for a "watering."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:32 PM (mbhDw)

361 "The Dybbuk" is an I.B. Singer story, IIRC. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 05:31 PM (mbhDw) There was a crappy movie made about it with a really pretty actress. Really pretty.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 31, 2017 12:32 PM (rZ+mb)

362 Just a table saw.

Posted by: Dyslexit at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (IqV8l)

363 I'm a-gonna do it anyway. YOLO, bitches. ------------- Shouldn't that be "I'm an-gonna do it anyway..."?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (y3sT9)

364 333---Is that why 70 percent of them voted for the Beast? Admittedly I don't spend as much time around Hispanics as I'd like (especially the ladies) but I just don't see this big opposition to illegals. Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 05:24 PM (z2mMN) --------------------------- People push the D button reflexively for any number of reasons. FSA. EBT. For example, Hispanics voted overwhelmingly against gay marriage in CA, yet still pushed the D button for Obama even after he came out for it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (0jtPF)

365 White Scotsman, you are thoroughly wrong there. You are confusing arbitrary process with law and the constitution. You are alleging something about principle. It's absurd on it's face to equate a judge's ruling with law, or with the constitution, regardless of substance. The substance is everything. In this case, as in many others, it's nonsense. Courts have no authority to make policy decisions, nor the competence to do so. Submitting to lawless, indefensible judicial usurpations is not "rule of law" - it's the exact opposite. If, alternatively, you want to make a *practical* argument, that OMG the only workable way is if "somebody!" has final say, you're still wrong. Centuries of experience have shown very good pattern of compliance with judicial rulings, including very dicey ones, and those that get reversed or legislated around. But there are limits. There's not the slightest possibility that a consequence of ignoring this, or the "travel ban" rulings would be chaos or other negative consequences. Not the slightest chance. These are lawless rulings wherein courts are usurping executive AND legislative power - THAT is the chaos. Mindless deference to illegitimate, inertial "authority" is irresponsible, and as the state of the country shows, the greatest danger.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (7Ml7x)

366 358 The Great White Scotsman:

Exactly. Throw out the rule of law, and you get rule of the jungle. The progressives will be shocked at the result, and we will take casualties as well.

Posted by: Kristophr at August 31, 2017 05:30 PM (Vkf+s)


The progs who claim to be speaking for the little guy don't understand that the little guy is who the rule of law protects. The powerful will always be OK. It's the weak who are protected by the law.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (jK8Z7)

367 This judicial activist judge was a State District Court Judge in San Antonio before being elevated to the Federal bench. I live in San Antonio and it is a true blue city controlled by Democrats, socialist, communists (BIRM) and it is no surprise that he is blocking duly passed state legislation.

Posted by: Frank in Texas at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (cTuj5)

368 @353: "How would that work? The ball theoretically is in the President's court, but like trying to deal with a bureaucracy that is insubordinate and traitorous, how can he say "I'll see you in court" when the court is so obviously part of the same traitorous insubordination.

He can sack the judiciary, but that would entail calling in National Guardsmen to physically remove the judges and/or clap them in irons and replace them or just dissolve their courts.

And then all bets are well and truly off."

So...do nothing, and definitely lose, or roll the dice and maybe lose.

*studies the history of the American Right*

Do nothing and definitely lose - this time, it can't possibly fail!

Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (rznWS)

369 He can sack the judiciary, Only congress can do that, and only with federal judges. State judges, their legislature usually has to (with impeachment) which is almost never, ever used. In the whole history of the United States, over thousands of judges, only 15 had been impeached, and of those only 4 thrown out of office (3 resigned). That's out of more than 3000 federal judges since the USA was formed. Impeachment is only a grand jury, it doesn't remove them from office. It decides if a court trial is justified to do so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (39g3+)

370 340 285 The British in the Malay had the best trebuchet. Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 05:16 PM (MyHEM) ... The trebuchet in Calais launched the magistrate less his toupee. Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2017 05:25 PM (yL25O) **** The trebuchet near Half Moom Bay Flings judges far and wide. Their gavels pounded and findings sounded And in such, Democracy died.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (TFX/d)

371 Re gas, people are still lining up here for gas and prices are all over the place.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (z2mMN)

372 Did I mention he killed his Girlfriend after he was released? Posted by: It's me donna There was also a case a few years ago where an illegal was executed in TX for smashing in a woman's head with a concrete slab while drunk and high. Obama tried to prevent the execution from going through even though the woman was herself a Mexican illegal. Right before he was executed, he yelled something like "Long live Mexico!" as if he were some noble martyr faithfully representing his country.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 12:33 PM (/qEW2)

373 368 Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2017 05:32 PM (H8S+R) Nailed it. Sadly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:34 PM (mbhDw)

374 Fascists are causing mental illness in Lake Michigan's fish!

Posted by: Antifa Dude in Skinny Jeans at August 31, 2017 12:34 PM (398bZ)

375 JJ thx . . . a malicious possessing spirit . . . yeah, that's about right.

Posted by: simplemind at August 31, 2017 12:35 PM (50IyN)

376 Heads are literally exploding on the Lib side over the possibility of ending DACA.. To hear the likes of Kamela Harris and cryin' Chuck they are the Holy Grail of people... We're all gonna die without them!

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:35 PM (O2RFr)

377 Re gas, people are still lining up here for gas and prices are all over the place. Posted by: Country Boy Same here. $2.65 a gallon north of Dallas.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at August 31, 2017 12:35 PM (b/6cr)

378 Posted by: Frank in Texas at August 31, 2017 05:33 PM (cTuj5) Ok Frank, I'd also like to extend you am invitation to the CenTexMoMee in October in Corsicana as well.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 12:35 PM (z2mMN)

379 378 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 05:33 PM (39g3+) I have neither the time nor patience for that, nor the trust in it. And let's leave it at that before I have to ban myself.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:35 PM (mbhDw)

380 Right now this Judge's ruling is the "law" no matter how much we all disagree with it. If we ignore that ruling we are guilty of no longer following the law. It would appear that the law is clear and this judge's ruling is wrong. Hence, his bullshit, racist ruling can be ignored with a clear conscience.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 12:36 PM (bIwZ6)

381 In this case, as in many others, it's nonsense. Courts have no authority to make policy decisions, nor the competence to do so. Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 05:33 PM (7Ml7x) And let us not forget how the empathetic, wise latina retard was so happy as she related to an audience that "policy is made in the appellate court" [paraphrased from memory]. That, by itself, should have totally disqualified her to sit on the federal judiciary, let alone the friggin SCOTASS. But ... she flew through confirmation, anyway. Because, that's the sort of mockery of our Constitutional Republic we have become.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 31, 2017 12:36 PM (rZ+mb)

382 Been there and did that and the point everyone seems to forget is that you never know how it turns out until it's over. People die and it's not always the bad guys. Everyone seems to forget that the South had better soldiers, better generals, and even better weapons than the north. Better shots, better discipline, more passion. What they didn't have was control over their economy. Anyone who thinks it would turn out differently this time is a bit baffled. People in Boston weren't growing their own food. They didn't provide rice and beans. They just made enough money otherwise to buy it from elsewhere. The south couldn't compete.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:37 PM (39g3+)

383 349 It used to be that a reversal was humiliating and could seriously adversely effect a judge's ability to rise in the ranks Yeah it seems to be turning into a judicial version of civil disobedience and some kind of social justice badge of honor. There really really needs to be a pushback against judges, which will be terrible for our culture, but they're forcing us into it. ______________________ Obama is directly responsible for this shit, and not just because he appointed so many of these hack-tivist lefty "SJW" judges to the federal bench. Remember when he nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the SCOTUS? He went on and on, not about her qualifications or experience or intellect (which were dubious), but about the fact that she was hispanic, and that she would put her feeeeeeeeeeeeelings as a "wise latina" woman above simply applying the law.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2017 12:37 PM (QbiyL)

384 Caesar! Was DACA already ruled on by courts, or just DAPA? And if the latter, is the analogous substance similar enough, or in any case the legal handicapping such, that we could expect DACA to be over-turned if the states brought suit? Seems a pretty clear case of an EO exceeding legislated authority of the executive (i.e., the exact opposite of the "travel ban"). Thus, a slam-dunk "no" from the courts. Makes Trump's expected cancellation of the EO somewhat academic, if I have that right.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 12:37 PM (7Ml7x)

385 Well then the system is broken and the Tree of Liberty is past due for a "watering."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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I wonder if Reagan would have still believed in the "shining city on a hill" and that the rising economic tide would lift all boats if he were alive to see this?

Maybe he realized deep down that his administration's efforts were just kicking the can, like the others.

I just don't know.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 12:37 PM (2wRtc)

386 370 "The Dybbuk" is an I.B. Singer story, IIRC. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 05:31 PM (mbhDw) There was a crappy movie made about it with a really pretty actress. Really pretty. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 31, 2017 05:32 PM (rZ+mb) Which one? There are about seven of them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:37 PM (mbhDw)

387 I thought we had 3 co-equal branches of government not the assholes in black robes can over ride everything and do whatever they want. Time to ignore the judges. They want to do what they want we should too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 31, 2017 12:37 PM (auHtY)

388 If we win, we will have "righteous dead." If they win they will have "victorious dead." I would much prefer righteous dead. Skull-fu*king the "victorious" wanna-be's is going to be a party not to be missed. Yeah, you can have that fat girl that waved her arms, I want a couple of the skinny ones that look like coke-whores.

Posted by: goon at August 31, 2017 12:38 PM (EaQ6/)

389 Right now this Judge's ruling is the "law" no matter how much we all disagree with it. If we ignore that ruling we are guilty of no longer following the law. You know what the Founding Fathers said about law which violated the US Constitution? It was negated by its very nature and the people had a duty to ignore it. That it by definition was not law, because the Constitution was the final deciding factor. Judges only have the power we, the people, give them. If a judge rules improperly or wrongly, then we have a duty to not comply. Judges do not make law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:38 PM (39g3+)

390 394 Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 05:37 PM (2wRtc) In the Distance = The Shining City on the Hill Close Up = The flames from heaps of corpses being burned in a landfill

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:40 PM (mbhDw)

391 The Great White Scotsman. You argue for the rule of law, and it's laudable. But you're playing by Marquis of Queensbury rules. The Game is Calvinball.

Posted by: Democrats at August 31, 2017 12:40 PM (z79tQ)

392 Re gas, people are still lining up here for gas and prices are all over the place. Posted by: Country Boy Same here. $2.65 a gallon north of Dallas. Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2017 05:35 PM (b/6cr) There are huge, long unmoving lines into every gas station near us. Fortunately, I heard the news last night doing their best to panic people over the possibility of no gas. So, I went to fill up with no crowds. I figured people were too lazy to go out late at night and would wait until today. Yay, me!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2017 12:40 PM (NyJwR)

393 "A Republic, if you can keep it."

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 12:41 PM (2wRtc)

394 393 Caesar! Was DACA already ruled on by courts, or just DAPA? And if the latter, is the analogous substance similar enough, or in any case the legal handicapping such, that we could expect DACA to be over-turned if the states brought suit?

Seems a pretty clear case of an EO exceeding legislated authority of the executive (i.e., the exact opposite of the "travel ban"). Thus, a slam-dunk "no" from the courts.

Makes Trump's expected cancellation of the EO somewhat academic, if I have that right.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 05:37 PM (7Ml7x)


Mississippi and Arizona's challenge to DACA failed due to their being unable to show an injury to the state that would give them standing. When Texas challenged DAPA, the state had real, concrete evidence that they would be injured, so the preliminary injunction in the trial court was upheld on appeal. It was sitting at the Supremes as of November 8, the Supremes did nothing awaiting the outcome of the election, and the cert petition has since been withdrawn by the DOJ (you know, do-nothing Sessions).

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 31, 2017 12:41 PM (jK8Z7)

395 396 I thought we had 3 co-equal branches of government not the assholes in black robes can over ride everything and do whatever they want. Time to ignore the judges. They want to do what they want we should too Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 31, 2017 05:37 PM (auHtY) I'll say this for Sheets Byrd; didn't matter much who was president. If he or a judge encroached on the Legislative branch he dug his heels in and attacked. Even FDR's veep rallied the Democrats to stop him from packing the SCOTUS to ram through the WPA. Now it's Socialism Uber Alles, and fuck the rules.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:42 PM (mbhDw)

396 What is really scary is that these retards are pushing people into the alt-right. I agree. They seem to comprehend that people might be pushed into radical Islam if they are frightened, hated on, or attacked enough. They don't seem to understand that will happen in America with people becoming more and more enraged at the continual eroding of everything the nation stands for and we believe in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:42 PM (39g3+)

397 Right now this Judge's ruling is the "law" no matter how much we all disagree with it. If we are going to be ruled by one man, I'd prefer a Caesar.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 31, 2017 12:43 PM (QQ+il)

398 Serious question:  what can this federal judge do if they simply ignore him?  Legally, how can it be any different than if he had declared unlawful the enforcement of any other federal law by the state of Texas?

If this nonsense is not simply ignored as nonsense, then they win and simply engage in great and greater nonsense.

Posted by: DC Talk at August 31, 2017 12:44 PM (RZIhl)

399 I wonder if Reagan would have still believed in the "shining city on a hill" and that the rising economic tide would lift all boats if he were alive to see this?

Maybe he realized deep down that his administration's efforts were just kicking the can, like the others.

I just don't know.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at August 31, 2017 05:37 PM (2wRtc)


The real irony is that our wealth enables us to have luxuries like the Gender Studies major serving that overpriced foo-foo coffee, and Michael Moore, and solar panels. If we were less wealthy, we'd be burning the coal and the two people mentioned would have real jobs.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 31, 2017 12:44 PM (jK8Z7)

400 I'm sure the scum already have their DACA restraining order ready. And their judge(s).

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee at August 31, 2017 12:44 PM (z2mMN)

401 @CountryBoy, thanks for the invite! I've been pondering it, but I'm supposed to do IVF sometime in October, and I haven't been committing myself to anything until I nail down those dates. I will see if I can. And re: the Hispanics "hating" illegal immigration, I think those polls apply to legal immigrants -- but assuming our population numbers and illegal estimates are roughly accurate, something like 80% of Hispanics are here illegally. So, best case, like <15% of Hispanics actually oppose illegal immigration. I am underwhelmed.

Posted by: sunny-dee at August 31, 2017 12:45 PM (QAOZh)

402 This country is so farked up right now. The left ignores the laws and they are the big heroes the right wants to enforce the laws and we're Nazis. The Bizarro World the left wants us to live in has to stop

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 31, 2017 12:45 PM (auHtY)

403 Which one? There are about seven of them. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 05:37 PM (mbhDw) The Unborn, with Odette Yustman - a nice, pretty Jewish girl.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 31, 2017 12:45 PM (rZ+mb)

404 The Game is Calvinball. And we Constitutional conservatives appear to be behind 247^Pi to Q. It never ceases to amaze me that people can understand legal principle and so many Prog judges can't. And they get away with it, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2017 12:45 PM (bIwZ6)

405 Caesar, thanks. So, back to the "standing" scam. That is, gross violations of law or the constitution (by *government*) are not actionable, unless someone can show practical "injury" of some kind. Or, as we see these days, judges can make up something to please any group that doesn't like a legitimately enacted policy (travel ban). Bottom line: what are the propsects for DACA suit by the states, at this point? They've been motion-rattling about DACA since Trump was elected.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 12:45 PM (7Ml7x)

406 406 What is really scary is that these retards are pushing people into the alt-right. I agree. They seem to comprehend that people might be pushed into radical Islam if they are frightened, hated on, or attacked enough. They don't seem to understand that will happen in America with people becoming more and more enraged at the continual eroding of everything the nation stands for and we believe in. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 05:42 PM (39g3+) The "otherization" of the majority of American citizens in the schools and the media and the denial of legitimacy of our opinion will leave us, the victims of this pogrom (which is what it is) with no other options but physical responses. G-d help us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:45 PM (mbhDw)

407 I've thought about it quite a bit and am now prepared to announce that I like pickles better than cucumbers.

Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2017 12:46 PM (Sfs6o)

408 The gas prices here were 3.25 yesterday, haven't checked today.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 31, 2017 12:46 PM (6Ll1u)

409 The gas prices here were 3.25 yesterday, haven't checked today. Are you in France??

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 31, 2017 12:47 PM (QQ+il)

410 Just like so jagoff judges who blocked Trump's EO on the immigration ban. They ruled strictly on their political opinions and not the law. It's time to start removing judges. No more of this for life bullshit

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 31, 2017 12:47 PM (auHtY)

411 Don't you need 2/3 of the Senate to impeach a judge? That really means you can't get rid of them at all.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2017 12:47 PM (0jtPF)

412 There is significant evidence that this is more the flailings of desperation than any overall major movement by the culture and government. People are not happy with this kind of crap; for what they are worth (which is duboius) polling shows significant opposition to sanctuary states, tranny bathroom shenanigans, and all the rest of the crap the SJW's are pulling right now. It makes me think of Antifa, who after Charlottesville was emboldened to think that they were given the go ahead by the press, Democrats and culture, to do whatever they wanted. So they began openly attacking people with deadly weapons in broad daylight over and over and now even Nancy Pelosi is disavowing the group. The left lives in bubbles, thinks they are saviors of the world, and are largely unaware at how they are being viewed by the public. Donald Trump's victory took them totally by surprise, they had no concept how much people disliked their crap.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:48 PM (39g3+)

413 Don't you need 2/3 of the Senate to impeach a judge? That really means you can't get rid of them at all. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2017 05:47 PM (0jtPF) We need Edward Longshanks and an open window

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 31, 2017 12:49 PM (auHtY)

414 421 Just like so jagoff judges who blocked Trump's EO on the immigration ban. They ruled strictly on their political opinions and not the law. It's time to start removing judges. No more of this for life bullshit Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 31, 2017 05:47 PM (auHtY) The institutions charged with that responsibility hate the President and us as much as the judiciary. Nonstarter, I think, unfortunately.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:49 PM (mbhDw)

415 If we are going to be ruled by one man, I'd prefer a Caesar.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 31, 2017 05:43 PM (QQ+il)


Tanned, rested, and ready.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 31, 2017 12:49 PM (jK8Z7)

416 >>>Right now this Judge's ruling is the "law" no matter how much we all disagree with it. Disagree. You seem to be saying that if a criminal robs your house, that is illegal. It is against the law. But if the criminal happens to be a judge, and simply declares his act to be legal, then it is the law, and you are forced to comply. You are not permitted to defend yourself. You must take him to court and appeal his decision that he is innocent, and hope for the best.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 12:49 PM (/qEW2)

417 But there are limits. There's not the slightest possibility that a consequence of ignoring

For anyone lesser being than TGE it'd be a PR nightmare.  And for him it's an immediate PR pain for small gains on something he'll win @SCOTUS eventually anyway without his favorite heads I win, tails you lose up front.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 31, 2017 12:50 PM (FhXTo)

418 It never ceases to amaze me that people can understand legal principle and so many Prog judges can't. Something happens to a lot of lawyers (and lawyers in robes) where they know all the right stuff, but get so caught up in clever legal stunts, technicalities, and sophistry that they lose track of justice and truth. It ends up in their souls that anything they want to be true, they can come up with a valid-sounding argument for, so they do it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:50 PM (39g3+)

419 Bottom line: what are the propsects for DACA suit by the states, at this point? They've been motion-rattling about DACA since Trump was elected.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 05:45 PM

The suit is ready to go. The deadline to pull the trigger is 09/05. If the open border advocates file suit to stop the revocation of the illegal Obama EO the states can still file suit on the basis that they already won in Brownsville and the Fifth Circuit. It could be a lot of fun seeing federal judges from different jurisdictions go at it.

Posted by: Lester at August 31, 2017 12:50 PM (LfJIn)

420 Democrats: "The Game is Calvinball." So succinct and so right. It's not even a Democrat construct anymore. It's wholly bipartisan. It's a dangerous game re-established by petty Tyrants yearning to expand their domains.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2017 12:52 PM (H8S+R)

421 NOOD DACA.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2017 12:52 PM (mbhDw)

422 No grump, Cali. We have "special gas" to fight the global warming don't ya know

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 31, 2017 12:52 PM (6Ll1u)

423 Bottom line: what are the propsects for DACA suit by the states, at this point? They've been motion-rattling about DACA since Trump was elected.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 05:45 PM (7Ml7x)


I would guess they could come back with a showing of standing. The defeat wasn't on the substance.

Note that the PI against DAPA wasn't on the substance either. It was based on the Obama Administration not following the Administrative Procedures Act by giving notice and taking comment before issuing the DHS Secretary's memo that created the program.. There is no indication how the substance would have gone, if it ever got to that. Courts are surprisingly deferential to Presidents not named Trump.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 31, 2017 12:53 PM (jK8Z7)

424 Don't you need 2/3 of the Senate to impeach a judge? Its a simple majority, but its very difficult to get the Senate to do so. Very, very difficult. They are extremely reluctant to act against judges.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 31, 2017 12:55 PM (39g3+)

425 Impeachment is an utterly impractical approach to restoring rule of law. Administrative fixes (dividing the 9th Circuit) are irrelevant to the problem, which is the disappearance of integrity, and the conversion of courts into unelected ruling tribunals (not accountable to the constitution, the law, or the people). Restoring/creating integrity is, historically, a somewhat magical process, which distinguishes the few countries/cultures that have done it, from the majority. If we could bottle it, we'd have had more success in our foreign aid programs, which have spent lots of effort (not much $) on precisely this sort of thing. As a practical matter, administering a wake-up shock to the system would be best - ignoring a lawless judicial ruling. Repudiating lawless, unconstitutional actions *is* upholding the law, wherever those actions originate. Judicial supremacy is obviously a ridiculous and dangerous expedient, whose adoption was understandable but whose pathologies have now outgrown its benefits. It's no different than the other pathologies that have eaten away much of America's unique and hard-won civic culture: irresponsibility has led to fiscal insolvency, race-guilt has led to racism being institutionalized instead of shunned and eliminated, etc. Mindlessly mumbling "but, but 'rule of law!'" when defending something that was no more than a practical expedient - judicial supremacy - is like pretending those other cancers aren't destroying the civic culture.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 31, 2017 12:56 PM (7Ml7x)

426 A hack Clinton judge and probable illegal.

Posted by: grnberet at August 31, 2017 12:57 PM (9qgwW)

427 My version: "We are either a nation of laws or we are not. And if not, you leftists are f@#ked."

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 31, 2017 12:58 PM (xfb67)

428 This isn't law. It's the opposite of law. The exact opposite.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 31, 2017 12:58 PM (Ndje9)

429 #361 TrivialPursuer, thank you.

Posted by: mr_jack at August 31, 2017 01:01 PM (M59SC)

430 The suit is ready to go. The deadline to pull the trigger is 09/05. If the open border advocates file suit to stop the revocation of the illegal Obama EO the states can still file suit on the basis that they already won in Brownsville and the Fifth Circuit. It could be a lot of fun seeing federal judges from different jurisdictions go at it.

Posted by: Lester at August 31, 2017 05:50 PM (LfJIn)


The win in SD Texas and the Fifth Circuit was not on the merits. It was on the Obama Administration not following the Administrative Procedures Act when it issued DAPA. It is of no use with DACA. The states still could win, but Texas v. US will not be useful as a precedent.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 31, 2017 01:03 PM (jK8Z7)

431 Christopher R Taylor: "...The left lives in bubbles, thinks they are saviors of the world, and are largely unaware at how they are being viewed by the public..." So what? They ratcheted the machine forward. The blowback will not undo what they have already done. Those who might enter the machine next election are NOT going to return that which was taken. Do you think any vandalized, destroyed, or removed statues are going to return? Will those legacies being purged regain their legitimacy and reputations in the public square? So, as "clumsy" as it might appear to us, their tactics were effective, proactive, and irreversible. The eunuchs on "our" side through official channels will lie to us and then cower to the Borg.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2017 01:05 PM (H8S+R)

432 Probably willowed, but the Supreme Court was probably on the only mistake the Founders made.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 31, 2017 01:21 PM (TKmA0)

433 >>>>>>>>Right now this Judge's ruling is the "law" no matter how much we all disagree with it.

Disagree. You seem to be saying that if a criminal robs your house, that is illegal. It is against the law. But if the criminal happens to be a judge, and simply declares his act to be legal, then it is the law, and you are forced to comply. You are not permitted to defend yourself. You must take him to court and appeal his decision that he is innocent, and hope for the best.
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.Sorry Shipmate.  It doesn't seem to be anything other than what I wrote, you are putting extra words into what I put in my post with that "you seem to be saying....."

It doesn't work that way in real life. 

The Judge was appointed and confirmed to rule on lawsuits by the system we live under he is not some criminal breaking into my house.  There are laws dealing with that. 

If you don't like it, change the system or the people controlling the system like we did twice since 1776, but don't make false equivalencies in my name. 

There are procedures to get rid of the Judge. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 31, 2017 01:22 PM (+Dllb)

434 The press is the propaganda arm of the left

The judicial branch has gone rogue & drunk with power

The legislative branch is either leftist/beholden to special interests (D) or impotent & afraid (R)

The executive branch is dysfunctional and actively subverts the president

How does this end?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at August 31, 2017 01:39 PM (zpqa2)

435 Memo to Orlando. Texas is no longer part of Mexico. Enclosure: Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN Mentioned in Despatches at August 31, 2017 02:10 PM (9X60i)

436 Would you like a banana with your Republic?

Posted by: Eisenhorn at August 31, 2017 02:49 PM (J9FkY)

437 Is anyone at all surprised that a Garcia ruled on his feelz instead of the written law? So why are Garcias allowed to be judges in America, where we expect impartiality?

Posted by: SciVo at August 31, 2017 10:38 PM (w76d1)

438 "Garcia" is why 3rd World Countries most often remain 3rd World Countries. I demand a DIVORCE from the people that decided an anti American LaRaza supporter should be a judge.

Posted by: Fisht at September 01, 2017 06:13 AM (zOqbT)

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