May 31, 2013

Euorpe Facing "A Year Without A Summer," As It Last Did in 1816, the Start of the So-Called "Little Ice Age"
— Ace

Europe just suffered the coldest spring in 20 years, with average temperatures down a full two degrees C; France got shellacked with a 3 degrees C drop.

The last Year Without a Summer lasted 40 months. That very cold summer was caused by volcanoes churning up ash into the skies. But there isn't any noteworthy volcanism going on now.

Which means this must be caused by something else.

You guessed it, Global Warming. Global warming is causing the frigid temperatures in Europe.

Note: I got this story from a French newspaper (Le Monde). I looked for an English-media source picking up on the story. Shock -- there isn't one. The press in England and the US has decided they don't want to talk about the possible Year Without a Summer.

Thus, the crappy translation.

(Note, though: The generally poor (cold) weather of spring is discussed at different places. It's attributed to global warming.)

Corrected: I first called 1816 the start of "the Little Ice Age." That's wrong. The Little Ice Age ran from around 1350 to 1850 -- so it contained the especially-cold 1816-1819 period, but it didn't kick it off and wasn't caused by the cold snap of 1816.

That was just what we call a "complete mistake."

[Update JohnE.]: Possible explanation for the Little Ice Age below.

Posted by: Ace at 02:32 PM | Comments (184)
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1 Writin' firs is obnoxious .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 31, 2013 02:33 PM (WK8VM)

2 Well, all's I know is it's fucking hot here in PA. I intend to stay indoors all weekend.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2013 02:34 PM (sdi6R)

3 First , dammit .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 31, 2013 02:34 PM (WK8VM)

4 That link routes to some Skandi shit.

Posted by: Hunker down and L.I.B. at May 31, 2013 02:34 PM (Cs2tJ)

5 It has been very cool throughout most of May, though. Delightfully cool in fact.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2013 02:34 PM (sdi6R)

6 and you homos claimed there was no point learning another language. I did look for an English-language page on this story-- shock of shocks, the English-speaking media didn't see fit to pick it up.

Posted by: Rick Tempest, International Man of Linking Stories at May 31, 2013 02:34 PM (LCRYB)

7 Pouring rain and nasty cold here...haven't seen sunshine in days

Posted by: Eurw at May 31, 2013 02:35 PM (bUM34)

8 >>>That link routes to some Skandi shit. yeah I only saw the story on a french site. this is a bing translation.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2013 02:35 PM (LCRYB)

9 Let us hope someone else is inspired to write a book as fraught as "Frankenstein".

Posted by: Dianna at May 31, 2013 02:36 PM (2OEbk)

10 yeah I only saw the story on a french site. this is a bing translation.

Roger that.

Posted by: Hunker down and L.I.B. at May 31, 2013 02:36 PM (Cs2tJ)

11 The Little Ice Age lasted like 300 years, I think.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2013 02:37 PM (3+QKS)

12 And USA Today weekend edition blaming the "dramatic increase in allergies" on...you guessed it - "climate change".

Posted by: The Third Horesman Of The Apocalypse at May 31, 2013 02:37 PM (vbh31)

13 this "Rick Tempest" fellow sure has a Way with Words.


and yes, it's been f*ckin cold in Europe all Spring; colder than '77 which was sehr muy tres cold

Posted by: ladies & gentelmen, the Rolling Stones at May 31, 2013 02:37 PM (omBWL)

14 1816 was towards the end of the "Little Ice Age". It began in the 1300's (according to some) and lasted until the current spate of global warming begin the mid 1800's.

Posted by: Room 207 at May 31, 2013 02:38 PM (u9D1O)

15

Ace,

 

1816 is not when the Little Ice Age began.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 31, 2013 02:38 PM (PBm/l)

16 England was cold in the 1600s, and they had themselves a Civil War


history lined up for a repeat?

Posted by: ladies & gentelmen, the Rolling Stones at May 31, 2013 02:39 PM (omBWL)

17 Meanwhile, Al Gore will keep getting fatter and richer off the backs of the willing idiots.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2013 02:39 PM (DPdf7)

18 Europe cold, wet, miserable. Wool in June The wet just makes it worse

Posted by: Eurw at May 31, 2013 02:39 PM (bUM34)

19 I live in Florida. I would welcome a cooler Summer.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2013 02:40 PM (DPdf7)

20 no, the weather in the British Isles was good--very good--through the entire 1700s


no famines, no plagues

Posted by: ladies & gentelmen, the Rolling Stones at May 31, 2013 02:40 PM (omBWL)

21 I was looking at the snow and ice image of North America yesterday and Canadian lakes are *still* frozen, and June is tomorrow. Yeah, that's a sign the planet has a 'fever'.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at May 31, 2013 02:40 PM (U2UQk)

22 The Little Ice Age lasted like 300 years, I think.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2013 07:37 PM (3+QKS)



Some damn good instrument wood was grown during that time. Stradivari's wood came from that period. Nice tight growth rings.

Posted by: Berserker at May 31, 2013 02:40 PM (FMbng)

23 Yup, the joy of AGW is that it is religion and not science.  You just have to believe!

Weather gets hot?  AGW.  Unseasonable cold?  Yup, AGW again.  Hurricanes?  AGW.  Hurricanes below average?  Yup, somebody has a theory how AGW can do that.  Both floods and droughts are caused by AGW.  The problem is that if anything and everything can be explained by AGW it can't be science.  One of the basic rules of science is that a theory has to make predictions that can be either be true or false.  A theory has to be falsifiable and AGW isn't since any result 'proves' it to be true.

Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2013 02:40 PM (sCRhB)

24 OK! Answer me this! How the hell can we go from Global Warming, to Climate Change to Global Cooling and not lose all credibility? Gore! Gore! ????/

Posted by: The MSM at May 31, 2013 02:40 PM (gWHwW)

25 They also  told us the Tour De France peloton was drug free.

Posted by: tony redenzo at May 31, 2013 02:41 PM (DUfN3)

26 Oh wow....the storm chaser is telling Shep that 'An entire farm yard, tractors, barn, you name it, just blew over our truck."  Broken windows in his truck.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 02:41 PM (X6akg)

27 Actually, the "Year Without A Summer" (1816 in North America) was caused by a major volcano eruption and wasn't directly related to the "Little Ice Age", which lasted several centuries starting in the 1300s. Sunspots were not observed until the invention of the telescope in the early 1600s. Galileo and other astronomers observed them for a few decades, but then they largely disappeared for about 70 years beginning around 1650. This is now called the "Maunder Minimum".

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2013 02:41 PM (sdi6R)

28 Ice ages that endure for centuries are a classic symptom of global warming. Learn some fucking science wingnuts.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at May 31, 2013 02:42 PM (+lsX1)

29 The AGW scammer changed their tune when the increased warming stopped,they had to keep the grant money coming after all.Their "settled science" is not falsifiable,literally anything is attributed to it.Too hot?(obviously) Too cold?CLIMATE CHANGE!Too much rain?CLIMATE CHANGE!Drought?CLIMATE CHANGE!Large number of storms?CLIMATE CHANGE!Fewer storms than usual?CLIMATE CHANGE!Beatiful isn't it?

Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2013 02:42 PM (9XBK2)

30 Per WIKI : The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered the timing and areas affected by the LIA suggested largely independent regional climate changes, rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.

The rest of the article refutes that entire paragraph.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2013 02:43 PM (3+QKS)

31 Welcome to Walmart!

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 31, 2013 02:43 PM (5fSr7)

32 If it's the coldest spring in 20 years, does that mean in 1993 there was another Ice Age in Europe? For some reason I don't recall that.

/junk science is junk.

Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2013 02:43 PM (z63Tr)

33 There is a wiki page on 'the year without a summer' which gives some good data. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at May 31, 2013 02:43 PM (U2UQk)

34 Twister is 2 minutes from Yukon, OK.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 02:43 PM (X6akg)

35 OT, but the Weather Channel got a little too close to the storm. Mike Bettes truck thrown 200 yards by tornado. All safe, truck not good.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2013 02:43 PM (DPdf7)

36 It's quite humid here. Is it global wetness?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 31, 2013 02:43 PM (OgQih)

37 The warmers use climate change like the Dems use the the sequester and blame every malady, misfortune and trouble in life on it

Posted by: L, elle at May 31, 2013 02:44 PM (0PiQ4)

38 "NW and SW OKC take cover now."

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 02:44 PM (X6akg)

39 I have read comments by True Believers in AGW who say that the present cool times should frighten us. As the theory goes, we have dumped so much CO2 into the air that we should be warm, and something else (sunspot activity or whatever) is cooling us for now, so when the unusual cooling ends (as it must, Real Soon Now) then we are *really* in for horrible fast warming. A friend of mine pointed out that 20 years ago, when the warming models were published and didn't count the sun as a major influence on temperature, the Warmists pooh-poohed the idea that the sun could be a material cause of warming. Now that we are about to smash through the 95% confidence line on the model predictions graph, suddenly the sun is so powerful that it explains why the model "seems" to be wrong without being wrong. This, in itself, is a stunning reversal of the Official Story. But never mind... The Science Is Settled(TM).

Posted by: mr_jack at May 31, 2013 02:44 PM (TMG3G)

40 Channel 9 in OKC is the place to watch: http://tinyurl.com/m24yl59 Click "Watch Live Now".

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2013 02:44 PM (sdi6R)

41

Predicting future temperature by looking as  past temperatures is like trying to drive a car on a mountain road while only looking in the rear view mirror.

 

 

I've tried it.

 

 

It doesn't work.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- a legend in my own mind at May 31, 2013 02:44 PM (pxDth)

42 Ace worldwide temps are HOT Europe is not really all that much of planet Earth. But for science skeptics this might be alarming. I think NOAA has the year to date as being about 15th warmest.

Posted by: occam at May 31, 2013 02:44 PM (DAHhf)

43 They were forecasting the Earth to go into another Ice Age around 1975... I guess their "Global Warming" took care of that. Ergo the name change to "Climate Change". Bonus fact of the day: In preparations for the new Common Core Curriculum, the 2nd grade teachers gave their Math visual aids to the 4th grade teachers; the 3rd grade to the 5th; and the 4th to the 6th grade teachers. Oh, no... no dumbing down going on here. *Of course they are getting new Math curriculum, because the new curriculum they got 2 years ago is "outdated".

Posted by: Stormy at May 31, 2013 02:45 PM (RZssu)

44 I've fixed the Little Ice Age error.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2013 02:45 PM (LCRYB)

45 Welcome to the Church of Climatology. All instances of weather point toward Man Made Climate Change.


You only need to step outside your home to see definitive proof of what sayest the Great Prophet Gore.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at May 31, 2013 02:45 PM (/B8eZ)

46 Black Nixon doesn't have much patience for climate change deniers, y'all. Look for a letter from the IRS, wingnuts.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at May 31, 2013 02:45 PM (xw77v)

47 Fucking blackbirds plucked out the last of my giant pumpkin starts last night. Thanks a lot global warming.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at May 31, 2013 02:45 PM (+lsX1)

48 Damn it! My brother beats me again.

I hate you Snow Miser! I hate you! I hate you! I hate you!

Posted by: Heat Miser at May 31, 2013 02:46 PM (UI1cZ)

49 I'm still laughing at "euorpe" in the thread title. Seems a fitting name to the place really.




Posted by: Berserker at May 31, 2013 02:46 PM (FMbng)

50 Actually I think I got the error searching for an English-media report and finding only a left-wing blog discussing it pron.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at May 31, 2013 02:46 PM (U2UQk)

51 Eeeeeewwwee The Europeans don't dry clean those wool sweaters very often.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at May 31, 2013 02:46 PM (Sptt8)

52 It's quite humid here. Is it global wetness? It's from the climate hysterics. It's global flop sweat.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at May 31, 2013 02:46 PM (xw77v)

53 44 I've fixed the Little Ice Age error.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2013 07:45 PM (LCRYB)


Sticking with Euorpe was ballsy but I like it.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at May 31, 2013 02:46 PM (/B8eZ)

54 That very cold summer was caused by volcanoes churning up ash into the skies.

That part is the least understood part of the event. While particulates can reduce sunlight there is no real lasting temperature effect of low levels of volcanic events. EG. temps returns to 'normal' after Pinatubo in 92.

The LIA was 'caused' by the normal climate cycles. The volcanoes added temporary reduction in temps.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 31, 2013 02:46 PM (ZIcZg)

55 I'm very, very disappointed in your lack of French translation efforts, Ace. This isn't Rosetta Stone around here, mister.
Assume the position.

Posted by: mistress payne, instructor in the french tongue at May 31, 2013 02:47 PM (9+vDU)

56 6 tornado warnings in OK now.

Posted by: Stormy at May 31, 2013 02:47 PM (RZssu)

57 39 I have read comments by True Believers in AGW who say that the present cool times should frighten us. As the theory goes, we have dumped so much CO2 into the air that we should be warm, and something else (sunspot activity or whatever) is cooling us for now, so when the unusual cooling ends (as it must, Real Soon Now) then we are *really* in for horrible fast warming. Posted by: mr_jack at May 31, 2013 07:44 PM (TMG3G) Alternatively, maybe our CO2 emissions are staving off a full-blown Ice Age, which would be a Good Thing. Do they ever consider that?

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2013 02:47 PM (sdi6R)

58 Actually I think I got the error searching for pron. That is never an error.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at May 31, 2013 02:47 PM (xw77v)

59 He's a writer not a speller.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2013 02:47 PM (3+QKS)

60 Ignorant deniers.

Posted by: Chris Christie at May 31, 2013 02:47 PM (Cs2tJ)

61 Roger that.
Huh?

Posted by: roger murdock at May 31, 2013 02:48 PM (9+vDU)

62 You all created meeeeeeee!!1!11!!!!eleventy!!111!1!

Posted by: Hurrycaine Sanday at May 31, 2013 02:49 PM (/B8eZ)

63 Fox:  "Tornado consumed mobile home park"

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 02:49 PM (X6akg)

64

Fucking blackbirds plucked out the last of my giant pumpkin starts last night. Thanks a lot global warming.

 

Just plant a seed and place a black plant container over it (with a rock on top to keep the wind from blowing it away)  for a week or so...if it gets sunny and hot, vent it. 

 

You'll have a happy  new  sprout in no time.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2013 02:49 PM (IvlEd)

65 BREAKING: New Jersey Governor's Mansion Concerned; Christie Worries About "A Year Without A Donut"

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at May 31, 2013 02:49 PM (xw77v)

66 Evacuating OKC airport now.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 02:49 PM (X6akg)

67 My wife overcooked the salmon last night. Thanks a lot global warming.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at May 31, 2013 02:50 PM (+lsX1)

68 Liberal co-workers a while back laughed at me when I kept asking them "if we're responsible for global warming, why the fuck were all the heat records set back in the late 1800's and early 1900's?"

Who's MY BITCH!?????!!!!???!?!?!

Posted by: Sponge at May 31, 2013 02:50 PM (9x+3B)

69 My grandma had a scrap book from her great great grandma.. it had an article from the 'year without a summer" in it.. It never got above like 40 degrees or soemthing in northern Ohio.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 31, 2013 02:50 PM (DGIjM)

70 44 I've fixed the Little Ice Age error.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2013 07:45 PM (LCRYB)

 

*****

 

Meh,  a mere Tempest in a Tea Party

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- a legend in my own mind at May 31, 2013 02:50 PM (pxDth)

71 Sticking with Euorpe was ballsy but I like it.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at May 31, 2013 07:46 PM (/B8eZ)


Hell yeah, sounds like yorp. Sounds great when you say The Eunuchs of Yorp.

Posted by: Berserker at May 31, 2013 02:50 PM (FMbng)

72 Most urinals in OK, at gas stations are metal. So thats good right? If you live there you must have a shelter. ...Right?  

Posted by: tony redenzo at May 31, 2013 02:51 PM (DUfN3)

73 Shit,John Morris said the same thing in pretty much the same wasy as I did.

Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2013 02:51 PM (9XBK2)

74 I think NOAA has the year to date as being about 15th warmest. Posted by: occam

Based on what?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2013 02:51 PM (3+QKS)

75 And we're losing 70 species a minute, people. A minute!

Posted by: Professor Jeff Corwin at May 31, 2013 02:52 PM (vbh31)

76 It was something like Pinitauba, or whatever, some volcano in the Indonesian archipelago that blew up in 1816, and created enough dust in the air to cause livestock to freeze in fields in June in parts of New England. Krakatoa exploding in the 1880s was a bigger bang, but less dust, I guess. Nothing at all like whatever hit the Yucatan in the age of the dinosaurs. That dust event was much more massive. Shit, you want to talk about dust and smoke screening, these natural events have nothing on today's White House.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (PH+2B)

77 I think NOAA has the year to date as being about 15th warmest.

Posted by: occam

Based on what?
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2013 07:51 PM



Watch me pull a number out of my ass!

Posted by: NOAA at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (bAGA/)

78 All I can tell ya all is that I grow a lot of my own food, and based on conditions this spring, if I had to share it with you, you're all gonna die.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (U2UQk)

79 Post: Coolest spring in France in 20.

Occam: Europe is teh Hotts!


Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (ZIcZg)

80

Well, it just goes to show you.

 

It's always something.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense at.... at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (I2uSp)

81 The Year Without a Summer affected the US as well.   Serous crop failures everywhere.

I often wonder if the Mormon injunction to store a year's worth of food comes from a memory of that year.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (GoIUi)

82 Based on what? Lake Michigan at 5000C.

Posted by: toby928 at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (QupBk)

83 BREAKING... Shep Smith evacuated to gay bath house...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (V1ZIU)

84 OKLA looks very very bad

Posted by: ladies & gentelmen, the Rolling Stones at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (omBWL)

85 Ignore occam , dudes a fuckin' brownshirt .

Posted by: awkward davies at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (WK8VM)

86 Maybe the IRS should audit the climate. What could go wrong?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at May 31, 2013 02:53 PM (xw77v)

87 I've been watching season two of Falling Skies on On Demand but they only have the first half of the season available and season three starts this weekend. Thanks a lot global warming.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at May 31, 2013 02:54 PM (+lsX1)

88 Based on what?

A two dollar thermometer on a blacktop parking lot at the Bellagio in July.

Posted by: The Third Horesman Of The Apocalypse at May 31, 2013 02:55 PM (vbh31)

89 Hot Pacific and a cold Atlantic, just like the '50's. Bastarditi. It makes major tor. and hurr's. The cycle continues.

Posted by: tony redenzo at May 31, 2013 02:55 PM (DUfN3)

90 I've been watching season two of Falling Skies on On Demand but they only have the first half of the season available and season three starts this weekend. Thanks a lot global warming. It's the sequester.

Posted by: toby928 at May 31, 2013 02:55 PM (QupBk)

91 Geez....these storm chasers are talking so fast I can barely understand what they're saying.  At least 2 tornadoes on the ground near western suburbs of OKC....I think.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 02:55 PM (X6akg)

92 tornado moving thru OK City now http://kfor.com/on-air/live-streaming/

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 31, 2013 02:55 PM (8sCoq)

93 I still know where all the coal deposits are located in Indiana.  I remember this sort of trivial stuff,  including my years as a geologist back in the 70's.

I figure that information might come in handy to my grandkids.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 31, 2013 02:55 PM (GoIUi)

94

Global warming could cause Barack Obama to sweat and make the crease in his pants go away.

 

David Brooks blames Global Warming for making him sad.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense at.... at May 31, 2013 02:56 PM (I2uSp)

95 It was Mount Tambora in Indonesia on April 10, 1815. It's thought to have been more powerful than Krakatoa in 1883. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tambora

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2013 02:57 PM (sdi6R)

96 91 Geez....these storm chasers are talking so fast I can barely understand what they're saying. At least 2 tornadoes on the ground near western suburbs of OKC....I think. Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2013 07:55 PM (X6akg) I cant understand him either.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 31, 2013 02:57 PM (DGIjM)

97 A two dollar thermometer on a blacktop parking lot at the Bellagio in July.

Posted by: The Third Horesman Of The Apocalypse at May 31, 2013 07:55 PM (vbh31)


Please, I was actually there on a july 1 a few years ago. I will never fucking go there again unless its February in the middle of an ice age.

Posted by: Berserker at May 31, 2013 02:57 PM (FMbng)

98
Let me say, fuck tornadoes.  Get safe okies.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2013 02:58 PM (jKWYf)

99 There's tornadoes on the north side and the south side of I-40...heading for OKC.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 02:58 PM (X6akg)

100

Given that rectal temperatures are about two degrees  higher than oral, would that suggest that Athens   should  be   warmer than Paris?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- a legend in my own mind at May 31, 2013 02:58 PM (pxDth)

101

It has been very cool throughout most of May, though. Delightfully cool in fact.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2013 07:34 PM (sdi6R)

 

Try Minnesota.  It was COLD and SNOWY Through May.  The High this weekend will be 70.   70! for a high. 

Posted by: rd at May 31, 2013 02:58 PM (D+lxs)

102 A bunch of storm chasers (including Weather Channel people) were hit by a tornado, and a number of them are injured. Shoot, this thing is heading for the State Fairgrounds.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 31, 2013 02:58 PM (08XhI)

103 I'm getting dang tired of putting on pants and then having to pull them off again. What's it gonna be? Hot or cold?

Posted by: EROWMER at May 31, 2013 02:58 PM (kxlCQ)

104 Wow . I got a blow job in Oklahoma from my honey cruising west on I 40 in the '70's.

Posted by: tony redenzo at May 31, 2013 02:59 PM (DUfN3)

105 It was Mount Tambora

Oh, yes. That's the one named after Bon Jovi's guitar player, right? He's sooooo dreamy. Sigh.

Posted by: Low Information Voter at May 31, 2013 03:00 PM (vbh31)

106 Ha....Fox is staying with Shemp.  Sorry Bill.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 03:00 PM (X6akg)

107 The Year Without a Summer affected the US as well. Serous crop failures everywhere. *** Oh no! The ethanol crops!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2013 03:01 PM (DPdf7)

108 Ha....Fox is staying with Shemp. Sorry Bill. *** It's gotten ugly, fast. OKC now in line for the tornado.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2013 03:02 PM (DPdf7)

109 so Europe had the coldest spring in 20 years, and we can extrapolate that and it would show that europe is now facing its coldest summer in 200 years? I doubt that Ace. I guess you could say it might be facing its coldest summer in 20 years, but not 200.

Posted by: occam at May 31, 2013 03:02 PM (DAHhf)

110 I talk like a fag and my shit's all retarded.

Posted by: The Great Prophet Al Gore at May 31, 2013 03:02 PM (/B8eZ)

111 #107  Heh.  There is a silver lining in every dark cloud.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 31, 2013 03:02 PM (GoIUi)

112 I figure that information might come in handy to my grandkids.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 31, 2013 07:55 PM (GoIUi)


Write this info down using India ink on high quality acid free paper.  Make at least two copies.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 31, 2013 03:02 PM (Cnqmv)

113 Shit,John Morris said the same thing in pretty much the same wasy as I did. Posted by: steevy at May 31, 2013 07:51 PM (9XBK2) yeah, me too.

Posted by: Karl Popper at May 31, 2013 03:03 PM (qPCAa)

114 It isn't just one; there are several tornadoes in the OKC-area storm.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 31, 2013 03:03 PM (08XhI)

115 I blame HARRP and Jarrett for the tornadoes.

Posted by: Chris Christie at May 31, 2013 03:03 PM (Cs2tJ)

116

Damn, them Okies are into the Shit:Real. Duck and cover, y'all.

 

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at May 31, 2013 03:04 PM (wYShC)

117 It was cold in UK and Europe, in high 40's, with rain, for the two weeks we were there this month.

Belgium appeared to be the most "green" of the four countries I wheezed through with the bubonic plague caught on flight there. They are totally into the global warming crapola, but the beer is good there (so son and husband tell me as I am a wino when not dying of plague). They were quite proud of their green (food labels include how green things are to produce, as if I cared).

Lots of whining about the cold by natives in Paris. I was not thrilled, either. So I can understand their whining about this as the sunshine improved my spirits in the few hours I saw it. So, basically, between this and the unemployment they are not in good moods for the summer of unrest that is coming, thanks to their immigrants, who we cannot speak of.

Prayers for Oklahoma. How horrible.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is thankfully not the Duchess of Alba at May 31, 2013 03:04 PM (baL2B)

118 When I was fourteen I  once  went a whole week without  fantasizing about Swedish  actresses.  I called it the week without Elke Somer.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- a legend in my own mind at May 31, 2013 03:04 PM (pxDth)

119 Sucks for OKC. I've been happy for OKC in recent years as it's done well with energy business and gotten some national recognition with the OKC Thunder.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 31, 2013 03:04 PM (ZPrif)

120 Y

Posted by: apaiu at May 31, 2013 03:04 PM (wpE68)

121 Poor occam. Still clinging to the lie about how much hotter we are now than in past. No increase in global temps for something going on 15 years now isn't it?

Posted by: Buzzion at May 31, 2013 03:05 PM (Yo2MY)

122 Epicycles!!!!!!

Posted by: Ptolemy at May 31, 2013 03:05 PM (qPCAa)

123 #109  occam,  perhaps we should just wait and see.  You can come back here every week and tell us how warm the earth is getting while we see our tomatoes fail and the corn crop wither. 

Check back for a final answer in September.  England wascold last year in the spring;  I was there and all the brits were complaining about it,  and it is not like they are expecting 85 degrees in June.

I am willing to look at temps in the fall and see where we are.

Meanwhile,  I am buying extra food.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 31, 2013 03:05 PM (GoIUi)

124 Tornado expected to hit downtown OKC in 11 minutes.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 03:05 PM (X6akg)

125
Heading for dead center OKC.  crap.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2013 03:05 PM (jKWYf)

126 I think these massive tornadoes we've seen is indicative of one immutable fact: President Obama hates white people.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 31, 2013 03:06 PM (V1ZIU)

127 Hopefully someday we develop some tornado dispersion tech. But that's far future if it's even possible.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 31, 2013 03:06 PM (ZPrif)

128 Rain wrapped, Tami... yikes.

Posted by: Stormy at May 31, 2013 03:06 PM (RZssu)

129 Vindication!

Posted by: Rachel Carson at May 31, 2013 03:06 PM (qPCAa)

130 OMG....Storm chaser saying people are driving into the tornado because it's so large they think it's just rain.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 03:06 PM (X6akg)

131 The French are especially sensitive to the topic of cold winters. They've never forgotten or forgiven the exceptionally early transition to full winter in 1812 that wiped out Napoleon's Grand Armee.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2013 03:06 PM (hTDbY)

132 Oh no! The ethanol crops! Serious, you guys, I've planted corn twice this spring. Once at recommended time, then again two weeks later. First planting died. Second planting is two inches in height. Soil temp should be 70 degrees by now, but it's still in the 50's. So, if your budget does not include six dollars a gallon for gas-oh-hall, it should, maybe. Corn is funny. It sits, there, and sits there, and the next day it's six feet tall.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at May 31, 2013 03:06 PM (U2UQk)

133 I am really praying for you guys in the tornados path.

Posted by: elizabethe at May 31, 2013 03:07 PM (qPCAa)

134 Poor occam. Still clinging to the lie about how much hotter we are now than in past. No increase in global temps for something going on 15 years now isn't it?

It's hot, I tell you. It's hot, it's hot, it's HOT!!11!!

Posted by: soccam at May 31, 2013 03:07 PM (vbh31)

135 Sad thing is global warming would be good for us. More food, more plants, longer growing season. Humans do better in warmth than cold.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 31, 2013 03:07 PM (ZPrif)

136 Hopefully someday we develop some tornado dispersion tech. But that's far future if it's even possible.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe


They exist. They're called fuel-air explosives.

Wait. You mean without the equivalent destruction of an actual tornado?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 31, 2013 03:08 PM (ZIcZg)

137 Tinker AFB could be in its path.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at May 31, 2013 03:08 PM (08XhI)

138 ad thing is global warming would be good for us. More food, more plants, longer growing season. Humans do better in warmth than cold. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 31, 2013 08:07 PM (ZPrif) us too.

Posted by: bees that pollinate 30% of the worlds crop at May 31, 2013 03:08 PM (qPCAa)

139 heh. yeah.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 31, 2013 03:08 PM (ZPrif)

140 #117  ChristyBlinky,  my sisters were in Italy in the middle of March.  Usually things are warming in the Mediterranean then,  but their flight home through Paris was cancelled due to a major snowstorm.

Bonus for them is that they were given tickets from Venice to Chicago on British Air,  FIRST CLASS at no extra charge!!

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 31, 2013 03:09 PM (GoIUi)

141 "Year without Summer" will be a catastrophe for topless beaches in France. Which is the real reason Ace is learning French (that, or the old Clare Morgane "films").

Posted by: wooga at May 31, 2013 03:09 PM (SexZN)

142

I am really praying for you guys in the tornados path.

Posted by: elizabethe at May 31, 2013 08:07 PM (qPCAa)

 

 

I pray that they are undercover.   Like under a table in an inside room in the basement.  

Posted by: rd at May 31, 2013 03:09 PM (D+lxs)

143 Sad thing is global warming would be good for us. More food, more plants, longer growing season. Humans do better in warmth than cold. Word. We have the historical records so we know how much hotter it was in the past, and how well people did. Also how poorly mankind fared in the cold. Effin written records! How do they work?!?

Posted by: toby928 at May 31, 2013 03:10 PM (QupBk)

144 OMG....Storm chaser saying people are driving into the tornado because it's so large they think it's just rain. *** News reported on twitter that a woman and her child were stripped from a car.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2013 03:11 PM (DPdf7)

145 The "dire threat" of CAGW / "Dangerous Climate Change" has to be one of the top 300 or so frauds of the modern age. Seriously, GRAVY TRAIN and DON'T LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE, and if you don't have a crisis, make one up.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 31, 2013 03:11 PM (qyfb5)

146 new tornado thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2013 03:11 PM (DPdf7)

147 When French Vinters are again writing to their government demanding protection from the flood of cheap English wine, then I'll take notice of warming.

Posted by: toby928 at May 31, 2013 03:12 PM (QupBk)

148 The AGW crowd is making a last desperate push to keep AGW alive. "Clear!" *zap!* -flatline- No one in the room wants to call it and speak the time of death.

Posted by: eman at May 31, 2013 03:12 PM (cQ4xo)

149 TWC:  7:11pm CDT: Local TV helicopters show a traffic jam on I-35 in in the path of the tornado.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 31, 2013 03:12 PM (X6akg)

150 Man on Fire is on AMC.

Bet he got that way 'cause of global warming.

Posted by: L.I.V. at May 31, 2013 03:12 PM (UI1cZ)

151 Wait. You mean without the equivalent destruction of an actual tornado? Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2013 08:08 PM (ZIcZg) Yeah, but you get to choose where the destruction happens, to an extent. "In that big empty area" vs. "a big stripe through a residential area."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 31, 2013 03:12 PM (qyfb5)

152 Is the statement about the little Ice Age starting in 1816 a complete mistake or is it false but accurate? 

CBS/ Dan Rather

Posted by: Ben at May 31, 2013 03:12 PM (gq/l0)

153 >>Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at May 31, 2013 08:06 PM (U2UQk)<<



Lots of us in N. WI haven't been able to plant a lot of our ground.  Major snow into May and then wet.  Some guys are switching to 85 day corn and trying to get it in the ground.  Even with 85 day, planting here after June 1 means that you are counting on a  later than average killing frost.  Big gamble.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 31, 2013 03:13 PM (0eDuG)

154 101 Try Minnesota. It was COLD and SNOWY Through May. The High this weekend will be 70. 70! for a high. Posted by: rd at May 31, 2013 07:58 PM (D+lxs) Yeah, I don't doubt it. Here in PA, the highs have been in the 60s and 70s, with the lows in the 40s. That's definitely cool for May around here. It's gotten into the 90s just in the last couple of days. I remember about 10 years ago when we set a record for something like 15 days of 90+ temperatures in May. I've never seen anything like that. I'll take 60s and 70s.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2013 03:13 PM (sdi6R)

155 145 new tornado thread up Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2013 08:11 PM (DPdf7) They do it on purpose. I post, and *new thread!*

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 31, 2013 03:13 PM (qyfb5)

156 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at May 31, 2013 08:13 PM (qyfb5) =)

Posted by: bees that pollinate 30% of the worlds crop at May 31, 2013 03:14 PM (qPCAa)

157 What do the bees that pollinate the other 70% have to say on the subject?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 31, 2013 03:14 PM (qyfb5)

158 I should be harvesting my first crop of Silver Queen any day now. I also rooted around for some new potatoes yesterday.

Posted by: toby928 at May 31, 2013 03:15 PM (QupBk)

159 OK morons, get shelter NOW. 16 minutes was the warning last time. By shelter I mean "basement" with the hobo skins

Posted by: BEL SHAMHAROTH at May 31, 2013 03:15 PM (MUZDl)

160 I am so glad we have developed a dependable and renewable source of energy by using ethanol as an additive to that unreliable dwindling supply of fossil fuel.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 31, 2013 03:17 PM (Cnqmv)

161 Warden's Law: Those bad things that cannot be blamed on the GOP; Tea Partiers; or white men shall be blamed on Climate Change.

Posted by: Warden at May 31, 2013 03:19 PM (HzhBE)

162 Bonus for them is that they were given tickets from Venice to Chicago on British Air, FIRST CLASS at no extra charge!!

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 31, 2013 08:09 PM (GoIUi)


We would have done anything for that. I have to say this, after being awake for 23 hours, stealing water from plane galleys due to thirst for 9 hours (as the stoopid KML airlines from Amsterdam(n) won't let water on board even after security and we drink gallons), I wanted to cheerfully die in Atlanta customs. It was hell on earth and I never thought I'd make it home at this point. It was hot, peoples, and a billion planes coming in at same time, churning out tres ugly peoples coming into country. We are talking freak show. My husband's personal favorite was the large woman who stored her cell phone in her ample bosoms (I said, "doesn't everyone?"). I think she kept everything there: food, passport, spare clothing, etc.


If I could have filmed the people I would have to prove to friends and family how bizarre they all were. I could have been hallucinating, I do not know, but it was Alice in Wonderland weird to see a Mennonite type family with a meth head girl after them, trying to be cool and straight. And ugly people, beat with ugly stick. Granted, I looked haggard myself after being up for a day, dehydrated, and the remnants of plague with frizzed hair on end. But have never seen anything like this parade.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky is thankfully not the Duchess of Alba at May 31, 2013 03:19 PM (baL2B)

163 MOAR CORN

Posted by: toby928 at May 31, 2013 03:19 PM (QupBk)

164 What do the bees that pollinate the other 70% have to say on the subject? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at May 31, 2013 08:14 PM (qyfb5) fucking posers.

Posted by: bees that pollinate 70% of the worlds crop at May 31, 2013 03:21 PM (qPCAa)

165 MOAR WARM

Posted by: toby928 at May 31, 2013 03:22 PM (QupBk)

166

Think about it: Everything bad must be blamed on the enemy, but some things are just too far-fetched pin on, say, Rush Limbaugh.

So Climate Change becomes the catch-all for anything you can't directly blame on the out-group. It then acts a proxy for the out-group so you can indirectly blame them.

Tornadoes in Oklahoma? Climate Change. Damn those Republicans for blocking carbon reduction and getting those people killed!

Posted by: Warden at May 31, 2013 03:24 PM (HzhBE)

167 Know WHY you Fluked up with the "Little Ice Age" thing?

You were thinking in French.  Dien Bien Phu.  The French were thinking in French.  I rest my case.

Posted by: Adjoran at May 31, 2013 03:48 PM (473jB)

168 Global Warming:  Is there NOTHING it cannot do?

Posted by: Adjoran at May 31, 2013 03:48 PM (473jB)

169 Spain braces for 'coldest summer in 200 years' Published: 27 May 13 13:06 French weather channel Meteo has forecast that this summer will be the worst on record in Western Europe since 1816 – known by meteorological experts as “the year without summer”.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 31, 2013 03:51 PM (xCh2P)

170 Global Warming is like zombie.com

Posted by: Mr Uncola at May 31, 2013 03:52 PM (xCh2P)

171 In a joint statement to Breitbart News, Baucus and Hatch said: “It’s disappointing that the IRS failed to produce any of the documents requested by the Committee. "This is an agency that revolves around making the American taxpayer meet hard deadlines each and every year when they file their taxes, oftentimes penalizing those that are late. “The IRS needs to do much better.”

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 31, 2013 03:54 PM (xCh2P)

172 Don't you know that leftists are SOOO smart that they can promise you perfect 72 degree days with a nice gentle shower at tea time if you would just hand over all your money to them and be good obedient agrarian serfs?

Posted by: kbdabear at May 31, 2013 04:11 PM (mCvL4)

173 This site is very good for all things climate: http://wattsupwiththat.com

Posted by: . at May 31, 2013 04:29 PM (CnAXM)

174 Change all their thermometers to Fahrenheit, that'll shut em up

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 31, 2013 04:40 PM (SkyIE)

175 Nuthin' make you colder than global warming. It's science!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 31, 2013 04:48 PM (Z2Bkq)

176 170 In a joint statement to Breitbart News, Baucus and Hatch said:
“It’s disappointing that the IRS failed to produce any of the documents requested by the Committee.
"This is an agency that revolves around making the American taxpayer meet hard deadlines each and every year when they file their taxes, oftentimes penalizing those that are late.

“The IRS needs to do much better.”
WTF?  Maybe those fey old men might want to start turning up the heat, not the disappointment.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 31, 2013 04:49 PM (hTjN4)

177

Yup, the joy of AGW is that it is religion and not science. You just have to believe!

Weather gets hot? AGW. Unseasonable cold? Yup, AGW again. Hurricanes? AGW. Hurricanes below average? Yup, somebody has a theory how AGW can do that. Both floods and droughts are caused by AGW. The problem is that if anything and everything can be explained by AGW it can't be science. One of the basic rules of science is that a theory has to make predictions that can be either be true or false. A theory has to be falsifiable and AGW isn't since any result 'proves' it to be true.

 

Yep. They're ignoring the true cause of climate disruptions. Yep, you got it: witches.

 

Hillary, anything you need to tell us?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 31, 2013 04:50 PM (Z2Bkq)

178 Pushers of AGW make followers of Thulsa Doom look like Sir Francis Bacon. The whole movement is one big Earth First Tree Wake.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at May 31, 2013 05:13 PM (dvRYt)

179 Yep, you got it: witches.

Yep, we have to start burning them at the stake...as a ..sacrifice to mother Gaia...that will get the world back to spinning on greased groves.

Posted by: Paladin at May 31, 2013 05:16 PM (/bsc8)

180 Global Warning can cause both heat and cold, drought and flood. Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe. Crucify him.

Posted by: Thulsa Choom at May 31, 2013 05:16 PM (QupBk)

181 Year without a summer was caused by Mt Tambora in Indonesia. Bigger than Krakatoa, but no Toba.

Posted by: Beagle at May 31, 2013 06:29 PM (97ffE)

182 Winter is Coming

Posted by: Ned Stark at June 01, 2013 02:05 AM (6T+1F)

183 During WW1 there was an extremely cold wet spring and summer in California, and back then people thought it was caused by " the big guns going off in France" So....naivete and stupid have been around a long time...

Posted by: Christmasghost at June 01, 2013 11:09 AM (k80Ik)

184 Good. Serves them right for becoming Carbon Orwellians. When they finally realized how much of their bank accounts they've been scammed out of, they need to bring back the gallows....

Posted by: TimO at June 01, 2013 11:38 AM (p/YnP)

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