January 31, 2016

EMT 1/31/16 [krakatoa]
— Open Blogger

Here comes the Iowa caucuses. First and consequently most influential for no apparent reason.

Looks like after flirting with sanity, Iowa is poised to deliver Trump his first primary victory because Cruz is a Canadian hatey McHaterson or something.

I wish I could get worked up about elections. That would mean I wasn't full on pessimistic about the trajectory of our nation.

But I just can't shake the conviction that once the majority of people discover they can vote that other people's money will be transferred to them, the die is well and truly cast.

We're about to elect either a reality show barker, an out and proud Socialist, or the person who has without a shadow of a doubt broken federal laws, and goes unindicted because: Girl/Clinton/Democrat.

Good and hard, people.

Good and hard.

Sorry for so much pessimism on a Sunday morning.

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1 Hah!

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 31, 2016 02:50 AM (lLwoE)

2 I haven't sung yet.

Posted by: The fat lady at January 31, 2016 02:51 AM (t5zYU)

3 C'mon SMOD!

Posted by: The Hat of DOOM at January 31, 2016 02:51 AM (vBeA5)

4 News links are on the ONT.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 31, 2016 02:53 AM (t2KH5)

5 As the depressing gloom of winter twilight creeps through torn curtains. . .

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 31, 2016 02:53 AM (lLwoE)

6 Krak's a real Pollyanna.

Posted by: BignJames at January 31, 2016 02:54 AM (x9c8r)

7 I would like to repeat this from the tail end of the ONT. "Finally we are going to get someone who will give us hope, set everything straight, and make the world a better place."

Posted by: freaked at January 31, 2016 02:55 AM (BO/km)

8 Thought I'd try one more time Good morning again horde

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 02:55 AM (hk3Fb)

9 Clinton's going down. And not on the American people for a change.

Posted by: fly gal at January 31, 2016 02:55 AM (1L3pK)

10 Hola (hello)

Posted by: Weasel at January 31, 2016 02:55 AM (e3bId)

11 There isn't anyone running this cycle that I give a rat's ass for.  And the Dems are the normal commie turds.  One admitted and the other not saying.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 31, 2016 02:55 AM (t2KH5)

12 Ola

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 02:57 AM (tv9zS)

13 Any Morons coming to town for Super Bowl 50? I denounce you! It was already a circus/cesspool...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 31, 2016 02:58 AM (EZebt)

14 Was able to where shorts to play golf yesterday in Houston. That was will only last a couple of more days before we go back to highs of 60. Glad because I don't want to turn on the a/c just yet.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 02:59 AM (MNgU2)

15 I keep telling myself the Iowa caucus is no predictor of final winner. Remember who has won in the past and what that amounted to......

Posted by: AnnaS at January 31, 2016 02:59 AM (Zof2A)

16 Now I can go get my morning shower.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 31, 2016 02:59 AM (t2KH5)

17 Vic-Has there been anyone running over the past 20 years you've given a "rat's ass" for?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 31, 2016 02:59 AM (w4NZ8)

18 I've given up on SMOD and Supervolcano, so I'm switching to CME/EMP 2016!

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at January 31, 2016 03:00 AM (9eYoy)

19 17 Vic-Has there been anyone running over the past 20 years you've given a "rat's ass" for?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 31, 2016 07:59 AM (w4NZ


Yes, I liked Perry but by the time the primary got to SC he was toast already.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 31, 2016 03:00 AM (t2KH5)

20 President Barack Obama will visit a mosque in Baltimore County on Wednesday amid growing concern about hostility directed toward Muslim Americans. It will be Obama's first visit to an American mosque as president.

Does he bring his prayer rug?  note they say to an American mosque.....

Posted by: colin at January 31, 2016 03:00 AM (Pdb6E)

21 Say what you will about Iowa, but that state is always good for a surprise! Maybe they will turn the ship around and correct the horrible trajectory this race has taken. It is certainly not too late to caucus for Governor Bush!

Posted by: Begonia at January 31, 2016 03:00 AM (lIx8x)

22 There have been a few that I considered just bleh, but I don't like anybody in the race this time.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 31, 2016 03:01 AM (t2KH5)

23 amid
growing concern about hostility directed toward Muslim Americans.


Narrative.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 03:01 AM (oVJmc)

24 Good morning Hordelings

Sunday Morning Praise, for the last day of January:


"Oh How He Loves Us" sung by David Crowder


He is jealous for me, He loves like a hurricane, I am a tree
Bending beneath the weight of His wind and mercy.

When all of a sudden I am unaware of these afflictions
Eclipsed by glory. And I realize just how beautiful You are,
And how great Your affections are for me.

And we are His portion and He is our prize -
Drawn to redemption by the grace in His eyes.
If His grace is an ocean, we're all sinking.

And oh, how He loves us,
Oh, how He loves us, how He loves us all.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5t7Uoanryg



Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 31, 2016 03:01 AM (dFi94)

25 9 Clinton's going down. And not on the American people for a change. Posted by: fly gal at January 31, 2016 07:55 AM (1L3pK) I really do believe that.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 31, 2016 03:02 AM (zYV5P)

26 You'll all feel so much better when John Kasich wins Iowa in a come-from-behind upset.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 03:04 AM (oVJmc)

27 It's a pretty Sunday morning, with the promise of a beautiful 66 degree day. I refuse to get into the political trash today. Good morning, horde. And good day. See you on the food thread at 4. (Good morning, Fen!)

Posted by: Chi at January 31, 2016 03:05 AM (ENe42)

28 Amen grammie

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 31, 2016 03:06 AM (EZebt)

29 Well deserved hostility in the form of suspicion and disapproving looks.Fuck them.

Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2016 03:06 AM (8HTq1)

30 DAY 1,181 282 to go (355 to Inauguration Day ) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:06 AM (zLP1L)

31 Still would like to see Cruz / Carly ticket . That 10% that Carson has would go a long way in Iowa. I'm thinking it would be split between Rubio and Cruz.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 03:06 AM (MNgU2)

32 We'll see if Cruz's much vaunted ground game is enough to trump Trump. In any case, either one over the Establishment stooges or the Commies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:07 AM (zLP1L)

33 The brits really have a bug up their ass over Trump. They need to stand down.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 03:08 AM (iQIUe)

34 Trump owes his status to the simple fact that the GOP has completely and utterly failed us. Is actively working against us and isn't even faking giving a shit any longer. Trump owes his status because of one issue and one issue alone - Immigration. Where others have waffled, vacillated, and basically told us to go fuck ourselves, Trump has been resolute and strong. Our problem is not that we don't have sufficient laws, responsible agencies or actors to secure the homeland and interior from the current foreign invasion, it's that the actors do not wish to act, the responsible agencies are being held back and the laws are simply not being enforced and are being undermined by the unconstitutional acts of the current President. There is only one candidate that has expressly and forcefully stated that he will act to stop this invasion. There is simply only one choice in this election.... Trump/Sessions 2016 - Hasta La Vista, Baby!

Posted by: Kreplach at January 31, 2016 03:08 AM (WVvzl)

35 36 The brits really have a bug up their ass over Trump. They need to stand down. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 08:08 AM (iQIUe) Their attitude might be different if the nation did not have a rusty muzzy hacksaw at its neck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:09 AM (zLP1L)

36 Sure, I prefer Cruz. But the handwringing over Trump seems overblown. I'm truly loathe to say this, being a Cruzer and all, but IMO Trump could do more to help stem the tide of whatever the fvck trajectory we're currently on. He'd have a greater impact on society than Cruz. Plus the MFM would have a difficult time with him as has already been demonstrated since he'll fight back against them. I can only hope he and Cruz kiss and make up after the election. I'd like Cruz as VP or AG or even a SCOTUS justice. If Donald Trump's Hair wins Iowa, I don't see any way he can be stopped.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 31, 2016 03:09 AM (LUgeY)

37 The UK is a PC police state.Not even kidding.

Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2016 03:09 AM (8HTq1)

38 Sitting in darkness, waiting for daylight, the thought occurred to me that would be a great title for a book. "Waiting for Daylight" is the title of several books, one by noted Anti-War Writer Henry Major Tomlinson. Written in 1922 about WWI in the voice of a droll Englishman of superior education and intellect who notes the bloody awfulness of war, so unnecessary and inconvenient. On Amazon as a free book, uploaded by someone who found it elsewhere *probably Gutenberg*, out of copyright. The story begins with an amusing nonchalance about Life During Wartime amid artillery shells and gas attacks. Then the protagonists visits a London media outlet to observe the harried hysteria of the news reporters breathlessly writing about the grand events on the continent. Our hero escapes to the quiet streets of London to write : I left the glare of that office, its heat and half-hysterical activity, and went into the coolness and quiet of the darkened street, and there the dread left me that it could be a duty of mine to keep hot pace with patriots in full stampede. Tomlinson, H. M. (Henry Major) (2011-03-24). Waiting for Daylight (p. 13). . Kindle Edition. Thankfully, in this modern era, we won't be having that terrible business get in the way of a good English breakfast ever again.

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 31, 2016 03:09 AM (lLwoE)

39 The brits really have a bug up their ass over Trump. They need to stand down.

The British are more reactionary PC than any other people in the Western world.  Orwell's Oceana has deep roots.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 03:10 AM (oVJmc)

40 Was hoping for Cruz/Sessions, but thought before he went nuts it would have been Trump/Cruz. Could easily vote Trump/Sessions, in any case.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:10 AM (zLP1L)

41 I mean Michael Savage is banned from entering that fucked up country.I don't like the guy but come on.

Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2016 03:10 AM (8HTq1)

42 Saw an article in the Daily Mail about Brits starting to form vigilante groups and beating up on the "rapefugees." Glad to see it and sad it had to come to that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:11 AM (zLP1L)

43 I share your pessimism but I will be at the high school tomorrow night.  mr. creeper died Wednesday, so it will just be me.  I'll have to raise enough hell for both of us.

Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2016 03:12 AM (eVP1C)

44 England is going to be very soon UAK or United Arab Kingdom as soon as Muzzies get to 51%

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 03:12 AM (hk3Fb)

45 So I turn on the radio in the car this morning and there is a Sunday sermon on.  The minister is telling the story about Moses being found in the reeds by the princess and her servant and how brave it was to save the baby, despite the law of the land being that it must be drowned.  Then the story starts getting turned into a parable about doing the right thing today despite current laws and attitudes.  Interested in where this was going I stayed tuned and was expecting, or hoping, about the necessity to stand strong against abortion and/or gay marriage and not cave to evil.  My hopes were dashed when, instead, it turned out the rescue of Moses was a lesson to  young people to stand up against racism, that of their elders the govt., and society at large.  As it turns out you see, Michael Brown's body lying in the son was just like baby Moses in that little basket and we all have a duty to stand together to fight racism.

Can't escape this SJW shit anymore, even on Sunday morning radio  sermon.  Makes me more convinced  that LIB is really the only way out of this mess.

.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 31, 2016 03:12 AM (1BQGO)

46 The UK is a PC police state.Not even kidding. Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2016 08:09 AM (8HTq1) Orwell would be so proud.// It's amazing, though. The UK police protect muzzie protesters with signs which read 'behead those who insult' pisslam, yet arrest those who would beat down those who want to behead them. Cray-cray times.

Posted by: RickZ at January 31, 2016 03:13 AM (Ix+HS)

47 I said months ago that Cruz had a face for radio, and a voice for print. Nothing has changed that I can see. And this comes from a guy who could pull the lever in the General for Cruz with no hesitation.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:13 AM (ptqRm)

48 44 I mean Michael Savage is banned from entering that fucked up country.I don't like the guy but come on. Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2016 08:10 AM (8HTq1) He and Pam Gellar, but the Joo-hate can be spewed con gusto from every mosque. As well as the BBC and the pie hole of Roger Waters, Vanessa Redgrave and Emma Thompson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:13 AM (zLP1L)

49 "Cruz is a Canadian hatey McHaterson" I think that would be "Cruz is a Canadian hatey MacHaterson," then.

Posted by: Nomennovum at January 31, 2016 03:14 AM (SPxiU)

50 50 And this comes from a guy who could pull the lever in the General for Cruz with no hesitation. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 08:13 AM (ptqRm) He may have that, but no doubt he has a mind for America. Love the guy, as you know. But if it be Trump, he'll get my vote.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:15 AM (zLP1L)

51 48 Michael Brown's body lying in the son was just like baby Moses in that little basket . . . Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 31, 2016 08:12 AM (1BQGO) "A tisket, a tasket, a brown and yellow bastard. . . "

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:16 AM (zLP1L)

52 mr. creeper died Wednesday, so it will just be me. Posted by: creeper Prayers. I'm sorry for your loss.

Posted by: dogfish at January 31, 2016 03:17 AM (0O2Lr)

53 47 England is going to be very soon UAK or United Arab Kingdom as soon as Muzzies get to 51% Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 08:12 AM (hk3Fb) You guys didn't want to listen to Kipling, did you? The worst of tragedies are the ones that knowingly could have been avoided.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:17 AM (zLP1L)

54 creeper, Just saw your comment as well. Prayers from the VIA household as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:17 AM (ptqRm)

55 Good morning all! Slow news day from this date in 1944. Jan 31, 1944 - The EZ Dog Journals Cool and cloudy. Limited action. Infantry and tanks across bridgehead above Cassino. Slow advance because of mines and heavy emplacements. Artillery fire comparatively light. Big change is in the works for EZ Dog this coming week.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 31, 2016 03:18 AM (NeFrd)

56 "He may have that, but no doubt he has a mind for America. Love the guy, as you know. But if it be Trump, he'll get my vote. " We are not in disagreement.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:19 AM (ptqRm)

57 I am sorry to hear of your loss, Creeper.

Posted by: ALH at January 31, 2016 03:19 AM (Z56vq)

58 Sorry to hear that creeper,my condolences.

Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2016 03:19 AM (8HTq1)

59 Doesn't matter who wins. The cancer in the federal/state/city bureaucracies is too deep and too pervasive.

Posted by: jjod3 at January 31, 2016 03:19 AM (3UYA8)

60 39 If Donald Trump's Hair wins Iowa, I don't see any way he can be stopped. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 31, 2016 08:09 AM (LUgeY) A Trump presidency will either be the tonic this nation needs or a deep and abiding disappointment. There really is no middle ground considering the personality involved and the state of the nation he will lead, should he win. G-d help us all, no matter what.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:20 AM (zLP1L)

61 May mr. Creeper's memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 31, 2016 03:20 AM (EZebt)

62 25 9 Clinton's going down. And not on the American people for a change.
Posted by: fly gal at January 31, 2016 07:55 AM (1L3pK)


I really do believe that.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 31, 2016 08:02 AM (zYV5P)



Notice on the news links the FBI is getting fed up with interference in their investigation from the WH.  So that is what Clinton was meeting with Obama about.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 31, 2016 03:20 AM (t2KH5)

63 Condolences to the Creepers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:21 AM (zLP1L)

64 Howdy all. Happy Sunday. November can't come soon enough.

Posted by: Beth M at January 31, 2016 03:21 AM (kiy9d)

65 Sometimes Insty links to the most bizarre of articles. http://wp.me/p3EsC0-DLy

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:22 AM (ptqRm)

66 Michael Brown is Moses? Heh, you learn something everyday.  I have had the opportunity to work with some truly remarkable people in the filed of Biblical research.  The short answer is the teacher is an idiot.  The long answer is that you don't use the text as a springboard to prove your already developed conclusion.

Posted by: AE at January 31, 2016 03:22 AM (+ft6G)

67 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 31, 2016 03:22 AM (u5gzz)

68 I liked Perry but by the time the primary got to SC he was toast already.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 31, 2016 08:00 AM (t2KH5)


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Yeah, I miss him too. I asked my coworkers to tell me I'm heartless, but it just wasn't the same.

Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 03:23 AM (YOxw1)

69 to hell with the u.k. it's that country where everything sucks. their country and culture will be dead soon

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 31, 2016 03:23 AM (ucDmr)

70 18 CME/EMP 2016! Posted by: Beefy Meatball at January 31, 2016 08:00 AM (9eYoy) Oh, I got your EMP *light here*, lound-eye!

Posted by: Kim Jong-Un at January 31, 2016 03:24 AM (sdi6R)

71 I have to say I can't disagree with the establishments strategy to get Rubio the nomination. I think Trump gets very little support from the voters of any of the remaining candidates that drop out except for Cruz voters and I believe those would be split evenly. I don't think Cruz will drop out anytime soon though. I think most of Carsons voters go to Rubio as well as the other fringe candidates. Right now the polls in Iowa show the voting is 72% for anyone not named Trump. The only way I could get my Cruz nomination is if Trump wasn't in the race.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 03:25 AM (MNgU2)

72 Sorry for your loss, creeper. Thoughts and prayers sent to you.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 31, 2016 03:26 AM (UpGcq)

73 62 Doesn't matter who wins. The cancer in the federal/state/city bureaucracies is too deep and too pervasive. Posted by: jjod3 at January 31, 2016 08:19 AM (3UYA THIS. Been saying it for a while now. The president, whoever it is will have to do some pretty radical things to deal with it provided he has the minerals to not just use a pen and a phone but a chisel and granite to deal with it. I really hope and pray that Article V gets rolling, but that process takes far too long and you still need the votes to enact the necessary protective amendments. G-d help me for saying this, but we may very well need to ignore the Constitution to save the Constitution. And seeing CBD's link to the Marxist scum using the phony Occupy and BLM "movements" to destabilize us from within, it's going to get messy. Very messy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:26 AM (zLP1L)

74 Prayers and deepest sympathy, creeper.

Posted by: Mega at January 31, 2016 03:26 AM (XCez6)

75 72 Yep.

Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2016 03:26 AM (8HTq1)

76 Clinton's going down. And not on the American people Huma Abedin for a change. Posted by: fly ga FIFY

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 31, 2016 03:26 AM (UpGcq)

77 Thank you for the kind words, 'rons.  We got him home from the hospital and he went peacefully.  'Preciate the condolences very much.  It's amazing how the words of people you only know online can be so comforting.  The rough-and-tumble morons have a soft center and they never fail to come through.

And so we move forward.  Next stop, caucus.


Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2016 03:26 AM (eVP1C)

78 Looks like it will be a beautiful day here today.  High near 70 and not a cloud in the sky.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 31, 2016 03:27 AM (t2KH5)

79 Hilly's probably got the better ground game in IA, but I'm thinking Crazy Uncle Bernie's myrmidons are going to swamp them in enthusiasm.

Can a bunch of young pimply socialists shout down the bloated-ankle brigade?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 03:27 AM (oVJmc)

80 Lived in England two years while in the USAF, doubt I'd recognize the place now.

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 03:28 AM (hk3Fb)

81 Notice on the news links the FBI is getting fed up with interference in their investigation from the WH. So that is what Clinton was meeting with Obama about.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 31, 2016 08:20 AM (t2KH5)


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Wait, what? Clinton met with Obama? Like I've said, I watch for news of  Clinton like a cat over a gopher hole, but I hadn't heard that recently.


But to what her downfall means: our guy is going to be running against someone else. All these head-to-head matchups of Republicans vs Hillary are a waste of pollsters' money.

Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 03:28 AM (YOxw1)

82 I just want to vote for whoever will allow the judicial system to deal with Hillary Clinton in a professional and unbiased manner.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:28 AM (ptqRm)

83 62 Notice on the news links the FBI is getting fed up with interference in their investigation from the WH. So that is what Clinton was meeting with Obama about. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 31, 2016 08:20 AM (t2KH5) Prediction: Massive MFM ploy to ruin the reputation of James Comey (a holdover from Bush), plant smear stories calling the agency's integrity into question, and watch the DoJ bring trumped up charges against the agents investigating Hilary.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:28 AM (zLP1L)

84 82 Hilly's probably got the better ground game in IA, but I'm thinking Crazy Uncle Bernie's myrmidons are going to swamp them in enthusiasm. Can a bunch of young pimply socialists shout down the bloated-ankle brigade? Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 08:27 AM (oVJmc) More salient question: Can the last vestiges of sanity shout either or both of them down?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:29 AM (zLP1L)

85 I'm not going down,, I'm going to the white house!!!! *hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 31, 2016 03:30 AM (XbnXC)

86 "to hell with the u.k. it's that country where everything sucks. their country and culture will be dead soon"

Interestingly, libs generally view a British accent as a mark of enlightenment and class and swoon over anybody that has one.  I think most of them are complete unaware what is happening there but by their tolerance and diversity BS support the destruction of that society they are so enamored. Won't they be surprised to find what the new British accent is in 20 years.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 31, 2016 03:30 AM (1BQGO)

87 Lived in England two years while in the USAF, doubt I'd recognize the place now.

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 08:28 AM (hk3Fb)


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My sister lived there pretty recently. She says London vs the countryside are two entirely different things. John Bull is a sleeping giant.

Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 03:31 AM (YOxw1)

88 The beginning of the sunday political show opened with Hillary explaining that the email issue was simply an inter-agency squabble.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:31 AM (ptqRm)

89 We've had a celebrity president for 7 years (and his wife too.) And yeah, that hasn't worked out so well. But at least Trump has done something with his life. And none of the others will, but he might build a wall. Just trying to look on the bright side.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 31, 2016 03:31 AM (HMt16)

90 Condolences, creeper.

Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2016 03:32 AM (sdi6R)

91 Hilly's probably got the better ground game in IA, but I'm thinking Crazy Uncle Bernie's myrmidons are going to swamp them in enthusiasm. Can a bunch of young pimply socialists shout down the bloated-ankle brigade? Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel ........... Bernie's problem in Iowa is that there are roughly 1800 precincts, each of which has 1-4 delegates to send to a statewide convention. Bernie is really strong in the cities and college towns. But Hillary is better liked in rural areas, which may go for her more in sheer numbers. So, very much like the electoral college, Bernie may well get more popular votes, but lose in delegates.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 31, 2016 03:32 AM (UpGcq)

92 "More salient question: Can the last vestiges of sanity shout either or both of them down?"

I think we have at least one more cycle to go through. We will quite a bit of damage repaired then go back to destroying.

Human nature.

Posted by: Queen Moo Chelle at January 31, 2016 03:32 AM (WVsWD)

93 I'm so sorry for your loss, Creeper. Inadequate as words are, may the thoughts of God's loving embrace comfort you and your family.

Posted by: fly gal at January 31, 2016 03:32 AM (1L3pK)

94 I'm sure it was Churchill who said paraphrasing -democracy is the worst type of government but better than all the rest. Democracy means the 51% just gets to run the other49%.

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 03:32 AM (hk3Fb)

95 Stupid sock

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Dump Trump! Luze with Cruz! at January 31, 2016 03:33 AM (WVsWD)

96 90 John Bull is a sleeping giant. Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 08:31 AM (YOxw1) So far, he seems comatose and in persistent vegetative state. Pray you're right, though.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:33 AM (zLP1L)

97 @46 Sorry, creeper. Condolences.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 03:33 AM (tv9zS)

98 Prediction:

Massive MFM ploy to ruin the reputation of James Comey (a holdover from Bush), plant smear stories calling the agency's integrity into question, and watch the DoJ bring trumped up charges against the agents investigating Hilary.

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1 and 2 for sure, don't know about 3 because that could backfire SO bad.

Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 03:33 AM (YOxw1)

99 *squirt*

Posted by: Anthony Weiner - The Best Part of Waking Up is ---- in Your Cup at January 31, 2016 03:33 AM (/f6Nd)

100 John Bull is a sleeping giant. Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 08:31 AM (YOxw1) So far, he seems comatose and in persistent vegetative state. Pray you're right, though. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 08:33 AM (zLP1L) Unless demographic trends drastically change, they are DOOMED.

Posted by: The Hat of DOOM at January 31, 2016 03:34 AM (vBeA5)

101 And seeing CBD's link to the Marxist scum using the phony Occupy and BLM "movements" to destabilize us from within, it's going to get messy. Very messy. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 08:26 AM (zLP1L) I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Summer of '16 resembles the Summer of '67. Of course, this time, the pols are in on the destruction. We the People vs. They the Government. That fight does not end well.

Posted by: RickZ at January 31, 2016 03:35 AM (Ix+HS)

102 101 1 and 2 for sure, don't know about 3 because that could backfire SO bad. Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 08:33 AM (YOxw1) I put nothing past them, though. Especially considering all we have seen from the likes of SCOAMF, Holder, Lynch, Nifong, Correy and Moseby. Not to mention the judges. But yeah, that would be a huge overreach to try and railroad FBI agents.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:36 AM (zLP1L)

103 Take my wife, please. What. Why are you all looking at me like that?

Posted by: Amy Shoomer at January 31, 2016 03:36 AM (HMt16)

104 G-d help me for saying this, but we may very well need to ignore the Constitution to save the Constitution. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 08:26 AM (zLP1L) You're not wrong. When you've got one side that literally shits on it daily, you can't get back in office and lead by example with total respect and honor. When you're in a street fight, you can't enforce Queensbury rules. I only see one person in the race who will not GAF enough to tell the Democrats and RINOs to go fuck themselves on any number of issues. For example, I'm talking Executive Orders to open up oil pipelines. And since he takes everything so personally, I can see him doing it all over the place just for spite. Not just one pipeline, but ALL the pipelines. It won't bring the Constitution back but it will help make the nation strong again. Then we can work on restoring the foundation. Totally ass backwards but we have two parties in country destruction mode, one behind our back and one laughing about it to our face.

Posted by: Mega at January 31, 2016 03:36 AM (XCez6)

105 To see how far Britain has fallen, look at how many classic comedy bits of 40 years ago would get you arrested today:  Pakistani Daleks, Close-Order Swanning About, etc.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 03:37 AM (oVJmc)

106 Morning Glories! In before the book thread. And before the end of the world as we know it. Barely.

Posted by: mindful webworker - vibing goodly at January 31, 2016 03:37 AM (TUUTu)

107 We went to London about 1/3 of the weekends, spending all day and to many times all night with hardly any sleep. But local pubs were also fun to hang out in a evening for a few pints. I found the people not much different than were in came from. I do remember the worst were soccer hooligans especially on the train rides to London and we were warned not to get into it in any form.

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 03:38 AM (hk3Fb)

108 G-d help me for saying this, but we may very well need to ignore the Constitution to save the Constitution. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 08:26 AM (zLP1L) Why, hello there!

Posted by: Zombie Agusto Pinochet at January 31, 2016 03:39 AM (vBeA5)

109 I am so sorry for your loss, creeper. (((Hugs))) and prayers.

Posted by: @votermom at January 31, 2016 03:39 AM (cbfNE)

110 May God bring comfort and solace to you and your family, creeper.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 31, 2016 03:40 AM (LUgeY)

111 Condolences from the Eez family, creeper.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 31, 2016 03:40 AM (Z8DIA)

112 I will tell you the thing I like about Trump - and that is that he likes to win. I want someone running the country that has a winner's attitude. To hell with all this stupid micro-analysis about who he had lunch with 14 years ago - it would be nice to simply have someone in charge who thinks like a goddamn competitor that likes to be in first fucking place. Winning and being first is not something to be ashamed or, as apparently a lot of our current retards think it is.

Posted by: Weasel at January 31, 2016 03:40 AM (e3bId)

113 I share your pessimism but I will be at the high school tomorrow night. mr. creeper died Wednesday, so it will just be me. I'll have to raise enough hell for both of us. Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2016 08:12 AM (eVP1C) Thoughts & Prayers

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2016 03:40 AM (vBeA5)

114 "Massive MFM ploy to ruin the reputation of James Comey (a holdover from Bush), plant smear stories calling the agency's integrity into question, and watch the DoJ bring trumped up charges against the agents investigating Hilary." Comey is a target for sure. They'll twist and turn to make this a "Republican" scandal. Go after Agents? Go ahead. Go right ahead.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 31, 2016 03:40 AM (tv9zS)

115 Condolences, Creeper.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at January 31, 2016 03:41 AM (tEDMc)

116 108 To see how far Britain has fallen, look at how many classic comedy bits of 40 years ago would get you arrested today: Pakistani Daleks, Close-Order Swanning About, etc. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 08:37 AM (oVJmc) The Monty Python troupe would be beheaded in public. And they know it. What's particularly grating is Cleese who bemoans England's "yobbo" culture - which he helped bring about. Total lack of self-awareness. Mostly because he lives in Santa Barbara and not near Finsbury Park.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:41 AM (zLP1L)

117 To see how far Britain has fallen, look at how many classic comedy bits of 40 years ago would get you arrested today: Pakistani Daleks, Close-Order Swanning About, etc.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 08:37 AM (oVJmc)


Unfortunately, much the same here,  try making Blazing Saddles today....

Posted by: colin at January 31, 2016 03:41 AM (Pdb6E)

118 Year or so ago John Bulls tried to awaken but we're so slapped down haven't heard much about them, just keep reading about Muzzies having their way.

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 03:41 AM (hk3Fb)

119 I'm not optimistic about the future either, but objectively my life hasn't been affected much by government in the past 40+ years. I can't identify any particular loss of freedom. Tax rates for me have bounced around the same average percentage for a long, long time. I haven't flown commercial in 12 years, maybe that's a problem people are seeing, but invisible to me.

Yes, government is out of control but it's not breaking into my house. Yet.

Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 31, 2016 03:42 AM (3MozY)

120 Lincoln called the USA a house. Leftists are the termites.

Posted by: @votermom at January 31, 2016 03:42 AM (cbfNE)

121 111 Why, hello there! Posted by: Zombie Agusto Pinochet at January 31, 2016 08:39 AM (vBeA5) "Where have you gone, Agusto Pinochet, our nation turns its blackened eyes to you. Woo-woo-woo . . ." (standard Sefton bit)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:42 AM (zLP1L)

122 Trump is Conan. We may soon experience the best in life.

Posted by: @votermom at January 31, 2016 03:44 AM (cbfNE)

123 when the alternatives to the "barker" are feckless RINOs who support amnesty, big government spending, more bloated bureaucracy and cave on every issue to the democrats, then yeah. You can mope about it all you like, the rest of us are done with the GOP 'mainstream' candidates.

Posted by: docweasel at January 31, 2016 03:45 AM (XxzcU)

124 JJ at 63 Not only is there no middle ground but if Trump governs even remotely--i mean almost negligibly--as he is campaigning, you can count on a repeat of the 60's. On steroids. Giving money each month to Cruz but realizing that the nation needs a SWAT intervention, Trump best(hopefully will) be at least a shadow of what he promises. Bring on the revolution.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at January 31, 2016 03:45 AM (jagfX)

125 Side bar tells me to randomly pick a point on the Youtube video Funky Forest, should I?

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 03:46 AM (hk3Fb)

126 Posted by: Weasel at January 31, 2016 08:40 AM (e3bId) I understand what you are saying and don't disagree about having a winning attitude but In his circle, Trump has lost more than he would like you to know. That doesn't take away from his desire to win which is a good trait.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 03:46 AM (MNgU2)

127 123 Lincoln called the USA a house. Leftists are the termites. Posted by: @votermom at January 31, 2016 08:42 AM (cbfNE) Speech before the Young Men's Lyceum, Springfield, IL - January 1838 " . . . Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide." Also Justice Joseph Story: " If corruption ever eats its way silently into the vitals of this republic, it will be, because the people are unable to bring responsibility home to the executive through his chosen ministers. They will be betrayed, when their suspicions are most lulled by the executive, under the disguise of an obedience to the will of congress."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:46 AM (zLP1L)

128 "Sorry for so much pessimism" It's rather interesting that the reality of an overarching state's end result is "pessimism". "Bad Luck" hits all civilizations. Read your Gibbons (Edward, not Billy. But do listen to Billy)

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at January 31, 2016 03:47 AM (C9pBZ)

129 In skimming the overnight thread, there was a piece from CNN on how reporters were scared to ask the questions they normally would heap on a republican candidate because they didn't want the fallout Meghan Kelly is getting. No shit. I argued back in the Palin days when there were so many ridiculous stories that our side needed to pick one or two of the most outrageous ones and identify the authors by name, then relentlessly mock and pound on them so that the others would get the message. It was a perfect time because the press was so over-the-top when it came to Palin that they were reporting easily disproved things. By doing it then, it would have set a template and changed the face of reporting for the past 8 years. In order to accomplish this goal, a prominent writer like Ace would have to use his connections with other bloggers to focus on the one or two targets, ala JournoList. But, this never happened. Ace was too focused on how her snowbilly accent was going to make worlds collide and the fact that she embarrassed him. So, we took it in the ass for an additional 8 years. Your Sunday history moment.

Posted by: jwest at January 31, 2016 03:47 AM (Zs4uk)

130 On the other hand how many civilizations go out with a laugh?

Posted by: Bob from Virginia at January 31, 2016 03:47 AM (CP0hZ)

131 Zippy brings the feelz gud of the day. http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=253941

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:47 AM (ptqRm)

132 46 I share your pessimism but I will be at the high school tomorrow night. mr. creeper died Wednesday, so it will just be me. I'll have to raise enough hell for both of us.

Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2016 08:12 AM (eVP1C)

My condolences for your loss.  Stay with us--this is what the Horde is for.  Trust me on this....

Posted by: Jenk at January 31, 2016 03:48 AM (OtryE)

133 Creeper - I just saw your post that Mr. Creeper has passed away.  I am so sorry to hear this.  I hope you will take some small comfort in the fact that the horde cares about you and will be thinking about you in the days ahead. May God hold you close, and give you comfort and strength.

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 31, 2016 03:48 AM (dFi94)

134 >>>Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom?<<<<

There are a shitload of decisions about your health care and insurance status you are no longer allowed to make for yourself.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at January 31, 2016 03:48 AM (tEDMc)

135 Here's the thing about Trump: He says he'll appoint super-smart people to his cabinet. Well, he just might. He might get a super-smart VP or a super-smart search committee to advise him on picking his team. And who knows? He might actually take their advice, or let them run things like White House Inc. subsidiaries. As much as I like him, I don't think he's all that hot to do the work of the President.

That's what I'm counting on. His team shows him spreadsheets on the subsidies and product of various government agencies, and he decides to cut losses, transfer portfolios to the States, etc.

My pessimistic scenario is that he'll turn into a Schwarzenegger, who started off true to his campaign, then quickly collapsed because the love was elsewhere -- in climate change religion and being nice to people.

Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 03:48 AM (YOxw1)

136 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. Government destroyed my manufacturing career the day that NAFTA went into effect. The company I worked for at the time closed up and moved to Mexico. About 50 of us were laid off just before the holidays in '93. NAFTA went into effect on 1-1-94. My future and my bank account have never recovered. It was then that I began to pay close attention to politics and the vermin who infest it. Things have gotten much worse since then. No government should have that much power to eliminate an entire economic sector. #WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 31, 2016 03:48 AM (LUgeY)

137 133 On the other hand how many civilizations go out with a laugh? Posted by: Bob from Virginia at January 31, 2016 08:47 AM (CP0hZ) "Hail, hail Fredonia, land of the brave and free!!!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 03:49 AM (zLP1L)

138 Was able to where shorts to play golf yesterday in Houston. My brother called to taunt me. He said it was 75 degrees, and he was going fishing. Hey, we have 62 degrees to look forward to on Monday though. I'll be watching the snow melt.

Posted by: no good deed at January 31, 2016 03:50 AM (GgxVX)

139 creeper, at first I misunderstood your post. I don't know you, but I am sorry for your loss. Yes please, raise hell for two.

Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 03:50 AM (YOxw1)

140 Loss of freedom? Maybe the freedom to know if a fourteen year old daughter is taking birth control pills.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:50 AM (ptqRm)

141 I'm going to get hit very shortly for NOT buying something the government has mandated I have to buy.

Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2016 03:51 AM (hk3Fb)

142 Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 31, 2016 08:42 AM (3MozY) I guess you haven't been forced to purchase an Obamacare policy. Or told you can't pray at a football game.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 03:51 AM (MNgU2)

143 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. -- Has your kid tried bringing cupcakes into class for her birthday lately?

Posted by: @votermom at January 31, 2016 03:51 AM (cbfNE)

144 Maybe the freedom to draw a picture of Mohammed?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:52 AM (ptqRm)

145 129 I get that, and I will be the first to agree that he is a bombastic clown, but there simply has got to be a resurgence of American exceptionalism and pride. All the other candidates, with the exception of Cruz, are the embodiment of the feckless GOP that allowed our current situation to come to the boiling point. In any event I'm not optimistic of our chances, in fact I am rather pessimistic, I just think any further advances by the left and continued retreat by the right will seal our fate as a nation.

Posted by: Weasel at January 31, 2016 03:52 AM (e3bId)

146 Maybe the freedom to expect a trial, and all it's protections given a defendant if a co-ed accuses you of rape

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:53 AM (ptqRm)

147 "loss of freedom" Picture yourself in a limitless pasture/forest/whatever. You are free to go anywhere, do anything, be anything, own anything. Then one day a fence appears, but it is way off in the distance and you can still roam at will. Then the fence comes a little closer. Then small areas inside the pasture are fenced off. You cannot not enter them. But the area you can roam is still large. Some people start to complain that they are losing their freedom, but other say, we can still roam almost anywhere, what freedom have we lost? This is how I picture it. Just the fence slowly reducing our space to roam, our space to be free. Every day the fenced off areas get bigger and closer.

Posted by: jjod3 at January 31, 2016 03:53 AM (3UYA8)

148 Trump is campaigning harder than anyone I've seen in my lifetime. He flies from state to state, day after day, making his speeches that are more rolling commentary than speech. He is energetic, enthusiastic and optimistic. He does love our country and we frankly need a dose of nationalism to stave off the NWO and the Rush to Agenda 21 Tour. Trump's kids are impressive. They all get up every day and work hard in their organization. They are clean cut, present no garish and visually assaulting tattoos, and speak well. There are NO stories about the kids as there are from Paris Hilton or the other "family", whose name I shall not speak, from which the Bruce Caitlyn thing was engendered. It says a lot to me, as a very lucky father and grandfather, that Trump's family is intact, close, loving, hard-working, smiling and polished. Isn't that what all of us hope we could accomplish even without the temptations of lots and lots of money?

Posted by: 7Mike at January 31, 2016 03:53 AM (pxwEr)

149 Side bar tells me to randomly pick a point on the Youtube video Funky Forest, should I? I did. It's pretty funny. The word "incoherent" is where it begins. Harmless fun. No plot to get in the way of the story. Conversation-fu.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 31, 2016 03:53 AM (LUgeY)

150 I'm late to the thread, but if you're still here, creeper...I'm so sorry for your loss. Sincere prayers to you and your family.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 31, 2016 03:55 AM (pVkEV)

151 >>But, this never happened. Ace was too focused on how her snowbilly accent was going to make worlds collide and the fact that she embarrassed him. >>So, we took it in the ass for an additional 8 years. If only ace had listened to you we could have spent the last 8 years rolling in the clover.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 31, 2016 03:56 AM (/tuJf)

152 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. Posted by: Bat Chain Puller Uhhh, Obamacare. Making you buy health insurance. Electronic medical records sent to the government. How many you want, I can think of quite a few.

Posted by: dogfish at January 31, 2016 03:56 AM (0O2Lr)

153 nood book

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2016 03:56 AM (goH/2)

154 Maybe the freedom to follow your faiths teachings when it comes to your privately owned business?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 03:56 AM (ptqRm)

155 Comey is a target for sure. They'll twist and turn to make this a "Republican" scandal.

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Good. He seems like the one man who won't take the bait. GOOD.

Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 03:57 AM (YOxw1)

156 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. Can't think of a thing.

Posted by: Bakers not sufficiently gay happy at January 31, 2016 03:58 AM (kHgvV)

157 Has your kid tried bringing cupcakes into class for her birthday lately?

Posted by: @votermom at January 31, 2016 08:51 AM (cbfNE)

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They do it all the time at my son's high school. It's no problem at all. (Richmond VA suburb)

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 31, 2016 03:59 AM (3MozY)

158 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. Hmm...I'm thinking I don't really need health insurance yet...

Posted by: 24 year old 'children' at January 31, 2016 03:59 AM (kHgvV)

159 by: 7Mike at January 31, 2016 08:53 AM (pxwEr) You know one of the criticism of Trump is that he didn't campaign on a personal level. His campaign is made up of periodic rally's when others are on buses visiting every county. Also it is impressive that his family is intact after three marriages. But having a billion dollars helps facilitate that rather than hinder it. That said, his personal life is a factor for me as with others unless it's something very out of the ordinary.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 03:59 AM (MNgU2)

160 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. Did you just say something conservative?

Posted by: IRS Agents at January 31, 2016 03:59 AM (kHgvV)

161 Went back to the ONT looking for Vic's news and ran across something by cthulhu I thought worth repeating... ...It's all lies, all the way down -- they're not refugees, they're invaders; they're not women + children, they're fighting-age males; they're not from war zones, they're from barbaric lands; they aren't seeking relief; they're seeking conquest; they're not without papers, they discarded them along the way; they don't seek to join a productive society, they wish to rule it; they're not the best and brightest from Syria, they're the insane, infirm, incarcerated, and oppressed from every 3rd-world shithole with transit to Europe.... http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=361278#c24764164

Posted by: mindful webworker - retro rocketing at January 31, 2016 03:59 AM (TUUTu)

162 Has your kid tried bringing cupcakes into class for her birthday lately? You are forced to use a government-approved toilet. You are forced to use a government-approved light bulb. Male kollidge students no longer have the right of due process to defend themselves against false charges of rape. The government is implementing countless rules and regulation that are strangling our economy because of a problem that only exists in theory. That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the negative changes that have been forced upon us against our will.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 31, 2016 04:00 AM (LUgeY)

163 About two years ago, I personally lost the right to purchase standard size firearm magazines in my State.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 04:00 AM (ptqRm)

164 Crap..... Personal life is NOT a factor for me.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 04:01 AM (MNgU2)

165 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. Making fun of Mohammed is an awesome idea!

Posted by: Youtube contribrutor at January 31, 2016 04:01 AM (kHgvV)

166 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. Long live the incandescent!

Posted by: Lightbulb Manufacturer at January 31, 2016 04:02 AM (kHgvV)

167 "Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom?"

Try letting your kid, if you have one, ride the bike around the neighborhood without a helmet. 

Look at tax time what happens when you don't have govt approved insurance.

Want to cut some scraggly pines down on your lot that are ugly and a hazard Call the city arborist first.

Work in construction?  The permit process has become a nightmare, especially with regard to energy efficiency.  Not to mention low-flow water  fixtures and the like. I could go on for pages about that.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 31, 2016 04:03 AM (1BQGO)

168 The freedom to smoke in public places (even in your own car),drive without a seatbelt or ride a bike without a helmet.

Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2016 04:03 AM (8HTq1)

169 Was able to where shorts to play golf yesterday in Houston. " Feh. Locals bundle up when it hits 50...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at January 31, 2016 04:03 AM (C9pBZ)

170 Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 31, 2016 08:59 AM (3MozY) So cupcakes is the loss of freedom you comment on and not the other 20 examples? Do you change your mind after having read the replies to your question?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 04:03 AM (MNgU2)

171 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. That coffee table looks really sturdy....

Posted by: Fraternity 'rapists' at January 31, 2016 04:04 AM (kHgvV)

172 Look, I know there's been loss of freedom. I'm not daring you to prove it.

But it's a good exercise to identify examples *specifically*, not just a big blob Out There. It helps in planning your disobedience, which is what I do.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 31, 2016 04:04 AM (3MozY)

173 >>Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. My folks wanted to turn a swamp that was on their property into a pond by dredging the land. It took almost 10 years and more permitting than you can imagine to get it approved through state and federal levels. Swamp to pond. On their property.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 31, 2016 04:05 AM (/tuJf)

174 62 Doesn't matter who wins. The cancer in the federal/state/city bureaucracies is too deep and too pervasive. ______________________ Sadly, this may be true. Did you catch the story the other day about the VA manager who'd been suspended because she was caught stealing over $100k from the agency? She filed a suit, and the civil service judge ruled that she had to be re-instated at her former position -- the same one she had used to rip off the taxpayers (and veterans) she was supposed to be working for. One of the first things that needs to be done is to outlaw public sector unions, completely do away with the current civil service rules -- all of which favor the corrupt, incompetent, and in some cases criminal government employees over taxpayers -- and vastly reduce and size and power of the federal bureaucracy. Condolences to creeper on your loss.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 31, 2016 04:07 AM (a31sM)

175 Batchain Pulle = Yanking my chain. Sheesh

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 04:07 AM (zLP1L)

176 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom?

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I think a lot of it comes in the form of taxes and fees going to support stupid things when I could be doing other things with my money.

I wanted to see a production of Hamlet in London a few years ago and found a Los Angeles-London round ticket for something ridiculous, not even $300. Could have stayed in a cheapie hostel and eaten out of grocery stores, pulled off the whole thing for about $400.

After the airport fees and airline taxes and whatnot, that ticket was over $1000. Of course I didn't go, and everyone I would have supported by flying to London to see that play lost out. My choices were chipped away by people who would rather hire a bloated TSA with million-dollar x-ray machines that don't work plus a massive security apparatus in the UK than enforce sensible immigration policies and do airport security the Israeli way.

Posted by: iforgot at January 31, 2016 04:07 AM (YOxw1)

177 Look, I know there's been loss of freedom. I'm not daring you to prove it. Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom? Really- I'm curious. Ummm....

Posted by: Confused lurker at January 31, 2016 04:08 AM (kHgvV)

178 "But it's a good exercise to identify examples *specifically*, not just a big blob Out There. It helps in planning your disobedience, which is what I do." This would have been an excellent topic for a thread by Ace, or the COBs. But, I wish you had started your original question with this part included. It was very easy to read your words in a manner in which you did not intend.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 04:08 AM (ptqRm)

179 Not really a loss of freedom but my area has been completely overrun by illegals.  It is destroying local schools with overcrowding, multiculturalism,  and semi-literate parents that make it impossible to have a meeting because they bring their crying babies, everything has to be translated back and forth and they still can't understand the material being discussed.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 31, 2016 04:10 AM (1BQGO)

180 Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom?

Light bulbs, toilets, gasoline...Too trivial?



Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 04:12 AM (oVJmc)

181 'It's About Time' on AntennaTV.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 04:12 AM (oVJmc)

182 But, I wish you had started your original question with this part included. It was very easy to read your words in a manner in which you did not intend. Indeed. And my semi-apology to BCP. I lurk enough to know that you're a regular but I was too shocked (and too hungover) to properly process the nuance of your comment. Hence all the snarky socks.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 31, 2016 04:13 AM (kHgvV)

183 It's about time It's about space. About two men in a crazy place......

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 04:13 AM (ptqRm)

184 But, I wish you had started your original question with this part included.
It was very easy to read your words in a manner in which you did not intend.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 09:08 AM (ptqRm)


----------- Just my attempt at the Socratic Method. You don't give away your intent right off the bat, you ask leading questions.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 31, 2016 04:14 AM (3MozY)

185 Seriously, Batchain. Look at your taxes. Depending upon where you live, you are giving around 40% of the money you make - money being the representation of your toils, travails and efforts - to the government to piss it away on frivolous if not outright destructive ends. They own your ass from January through about, ironical enough, mid April. That's not doing your duty as a citizen to pay your share in funding what is necessary - it's robbery and TYRANNY.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 04:15 AM (zLP1L)

186 For some reason the msm class thinks they can insult people and get away with it which they do, except with Trump. And when he flings it back at them, they go wah wah wah!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 31, 2016 04:15 AM (iQIUe)

187 186 It's about time It's about space. About two men in a crazy place...... Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 09:13 AM (ptqRm) Bobby Morse, Imogene Coca. Wow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 04:15 AM (zLP1L)

188 Asking the Morons of the Horde leading questions? Um...OK. I may try that on the ONT one time.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 04:15 AM (ptqRm)

189 Just my attempt at the Socratic Method. You don't give away your intent right off the bat, you ask leading questions. I withdraw my semi-apology. Seriously? Socratic Method over loss of freedom with the Horde?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 31, 2016 04:16 AM (kHgvV)

190 "Bobby Morse, Imogene Coca. Wow." Damn...you b olden.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 04:17 AM (ptqRm)

191 Virtually none of the Left's depredations could have occurred without the complicity of the Republican party.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 31, 2016 04:17 AM (u5gzz)

192 193 "Bobby Morse, Imogene Coca. Wow." Damn...you b olden. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2016 09:17 AM (ptqRm) Old enough to know better but young enough to not give a shit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 04:17 AM (zLP1L)

193 It helps in planning your disobedience, which is what I do. Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 31, 2016 09:04 AM (3MozY) Really!? Like drink soda before bedtime while your eating Cheetos and playing first person shooter games in your moms basement? You devil!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 31, 2016 04:18 AM (VcKnO)

194 194 Virtually none of the Left's depredations could have occurred without the complicity of the Republican party. Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 31, 2016 09:17 AM (u5gzz) THIS. If there's money to be made, then they'll support it even if it leads to the destruction of the nation. Read my quote up-thread from Joseph Story.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 31, 2016 04:19 AM (zLP1L)

195 In order to accomplish this goal, a prominent writer like Ace would have to use his connections with other bloggers to focus on the one or two targets, ala JournoList. But, this never happened. Ace was too focused on how her snowbilly accent was going to make worlds collide and the fact that she embarrassed him. So, we took it in the ass for an additional 8 years. Your Sunday history moment. Posted by: jwest at January 31, 2016 08:47 AM (Zs4uk) Who else did you ask? My opinion on dealing with the media is the same as yours. Except blaming the fall of civilization on someone ON THEIR OWN BLOG.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 31, 2016 04:21 AM (VdICR)

196 Calling BS on Bat's subsequent pull back since he/ she started the question with a statement that he/she had not lost any freedoms and then responded to one of the comments that their example of loss of freedom has not happened to him / her.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 31, 2016 04:24 AM (MNgU2)

197 Can't wait for everyone to show up!

Posted by: Dickhead Sunday at January 31, 2016 04:27 AM (kHgvV)

198 So sorry for your loss, creeper. We will all have you in our prayers.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at January 31, 2016 04:27 AM (NqQAS)

199 199 Glad I could get you and others riled up. Life is not simple, there are many contradictions.

But "riled up" is what we need to be, in an organized way.


Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 31, 2016 04:29 AM (3MozY)

200 Glad I could get you and others riled up. Life is not simple, there are many contradictions. So insightful!

Posted by: Dickhead Sunday at January 31, 2016 04:30 AM (kHgvV)

201 Trolling the like-minded is productive!

Posted by: Dickhead Sunday at January 31, 2016 04:33 AM (kHgvV)

202 http://pointsandfigures.com/2016/01/31/the-new-york-times-is-dumber-than-i-thought/ The NYT is dumber than I thought.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at January 31, 2016 04:35 AM (hSpC/)

203 "Can anyone here give me a personal example of loss of freedom"

So I'm guessing you're not a nun with the Little Sisters of the Poor or the owner of Gibson Guitars.  And you probably don't own a pizza shop.  And when's the last time you bought a 150 watt 3-way light bulb?  You don't happen to own a bakery or a flower shop, do you?  Maybe you're lucky enough to have one of those old toilets that finish the job with just one flush.

And these are just some of the "little" things that come to mind. 

Posted by: IrishEi at January 31, 2016 04:39 AM (E6RIJ)

204 Who else did you ask? My opinion on dealing with the media is the same as yours. Except blaming the fall of civilization on someone ON THEIR OWN BLOG. Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 31, 2016 09:21 AM (VdICR) The sad reality of fighting the negative narrative coming out of the MSM is that it doesn't matter how many left wing media operations push a certain story line, they are all easily ignored. Only when someone with credibility on the right chimes in with a similar narrative does the story line get chiseled in stone. Yes, there are dozens of others who did the same thing as Ace. Some, vying for that all-important guest commentator spot on an MSNBC panel went out of their way to attack her. Others were just worried that they wouldn't be invited to right luncheons or cocktail parties. The left has people who would bleed for their cause. We've got people who would sell us out for a latte. Trump is finally leading the way with how to defeat the press, which is the main enemy, not the democrats. Without the press, the democrats couldn't survive two election cycles. But they have the true believers, so it goes on.

Posted by: jwest at January 31, 2016 04:47 AM (Zs4uk)

205 207 Without the press, the democrats couldn't survive two election cycles. Posted by: jwest at January 31, 2016 09:47 AM (Zs4uk) That's a good point.

Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2016 04:50 AM (sdi6R)

206 Well, I'd love to comment but I guess Pixy hates me. I only ever post at the book thread so I don't know what I could have done but I keep getting some sort of server error. Let's see if this gets it again.

Posted by: Tonestaple at January 31, 2016 04:51 AM (RtCTo)

207 Nood--book thread is up.  Grab trou and lose the chaps and/or tutus....

Posted by: Jenk at January 31, 2016 04:54 AM (OtryE)

208 OT: Ron Jeremy Endorses Ancient Lesbian Crone

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jdgjxrn

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 31, 2016 05:05 AM (oVJmc)

209 Woah! This is perfect for a combination gardening/gun thread: Flower Shell Lets You Plant Seeds Using a 12-Gauge Shotgun http://tinyurl.com/q38ncjp

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 31, 2016 05:16 AM (u5gzz)

210 First time ever I've endorsed someone not even I would fuck...... not even with someone else's dick

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at January 31, 2016 05:21 AM (4nrGy)

211 Creeper- Weep but briefly, for you loved ones as they enter the Kingdom of God. For they shall possess a joy and peace that is unattainable on God's earthly realm. Rather rejoice in their everlasting and total happiness, for their eyes have seen God. Prayers for you and yours.

Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2016 05:23 AM (MtMEd)

212 "Looks like after flirting with sanity, Iowa is poised to deliver Trump his first primary victory because Cruz is a Canadian hatey McHaterson or something." Does this qualify as pessimism? If you view America as a place of unusual destiny, there must be something of value in all this, however weird, ironic or outside of conventional interpretation. I think Trump is the most interesting political phenomenon of our time, and that terms like "carnival barker" and "reality show host" are really missing the mark on what's going on.

Posted by: rrpjr at January 31, 2016 05:33 AM (s/yC1)

213 I would be perfectly happy with Cruz as our nominee. I'm finding his supporters as bot- like as Rand Paul's or Trumps for that matter. By the way, Cruz was admonished yesterday by the Iowa secretary of state for sending out what she termed were "deceptive" mailers that were designed to look like official state mailings about the caucuses in which the contents were instead, telling people if they don't go caucus for Cruz, the nations downfall will be their fault

Posted by: Jen the original at January 31, 2016 05:49 AM (TKQrK)

214 Trump interviewed by Byron York. Classy, gotta see it, yuuge.

Posted by: eman at January 31, 2016 06:01 AM (MQEz6)

215 >>I think Trump is the most interesting political phenomenon of our time, and that terms like "carnival barker" and "reality show host" are really missing the mark on what's going on. I think people are reading way too much into the Trump ( and his mirror image Bernie ) phenomenon. People are pissed off at a system that they think is broken and rigged for those in the political class and they are picking their favorite destroyer. This place used to a spot where people had vigorous debates about specific policy positions and they would hold politicians accountable for what they said or did over the course of their careers. That isn't the case for Trump. Most of his supporters seem unconcerned about his past, they just like the fact that he is currently giving the finger to the establishment.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 31, 2016 06:07 AM (/tuJf)

216 Kirsten Powers: "calling [Megyn Kelly] a lightweight is the same as calling her a bimbo" (inexact quote) Liberal Logic

Posted by: Optimizer at January 31, 2016 06:10 AM (/q6+P)

217 I love these guys complaining bitterly that all the tweets complaining about Megyn Kelly were calling her nasty names and calling her ugly & stuff - personal attacks. Have these guys EVER seen anti-Trump types talk about Trump? Ans the USA Today chick recants the lie about how the debate viewership was up instead of HALF.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 31, 2016 06:13 AM (/q6+P)

218 In the beginning was the Word . Read Vargas Llosa " Notes on the Death of Culture " , caused me to reread Eliot " Notes toward the Definition of Culture " Which reminded me that Eliot and Marx , Groucho , were pen pals . Such that , perhaps , it's a word thing , this culture . And so I muse , as it were on " What is to be Done " in a twitter / Internet world of non words , words w/out much meaning. And , the answer , for me today , is to shut this bloody machine down for the day , put on some opera and finish the Eliot and see what off the shelves falls to hand . Click.

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at January 31, 2016 06:30 AM (uvj0z)

219 @218 "...This place used to a spot where people had vigorous debates about specific policy positions and they would hold politicians accountable for what they said or did over the course of their careers. That isn't the case for Trump. Most of his supporters seem unconcerned about his past, they just like the fact that he is currently giving the finger to the establishment." Well there's the thing, right? Who are seeing these days? I lot of candidates - very much like Obama - who don't have much in the way of a political history. Cruz and Rubio lead among the professional politicians, and they're FRESHMEN senators. You also have Carson doing well, with no relevant experience, whatsoever. The criticism I see about Trump is mostly talking about his hair, or he said something vulgar, or MOST COMMONLY simply calling anybody who supports him stupid. They conveniently ignore that Trump has championed a couple of issues that voters are concerned about and that no other politician could or WOULD champion. As to his past, every conservative knows the old saw about "if you're not a liberal when you're young..." People tend to get more conservative over time. You have clips from when the Stimulus was about to spend $1T, and people are mystified why he would talking up Obama then. The bottom line, though, is that if we don't finally get the border under control that we are doomed to becoming a Democrat-controlled, socialist, northern version of Cuba with settlements of Muslim jihadis scattered everywhere the way France does. The non-Trump professional politicians actually insult their voters who are concerned about this, so don't be so surprised that they would jump to a guy they don't necessarily even completely trust.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 31, 2016 06:32 AM (/q6+P)

220 @221 Well, obviously we will miss that kind of profound insight. (!?!)

Posted by: Optimizer at January 31, 2016 06:35 AM (/q6+P)

221 Tucker's article "Trump is your fault" made poignant points, but came at it from inside DC/NYC.  As he mentions, it was obvious to middle America for a long time, that "Make America Great (again)" had become a foreign concept to the well heeled (at our expense), well mannered oligarchs of the cocktail party.

Trump is NOT a Problem,  which must be someone's FAULT.  Trump is exposing the Problem, of the sellout of America, which various authors have done for decades, but have been shamed as nativist, xenophobic, racist, protectionist, and stupid hillbillies.  And the early Americanists were booted from the neo-con publications, who kissed up to "free trade" and diversity.

So we have an unscholarly "wise Latina" overruling the constitution on the SCOTUS bench, and that Diversity is just peachy.  Now, besides reparations for slavery, America owes the whole world for that whole manifest destiny thingy, and colonialism, and don't you forget Your Crusades.  Only other peoples' wars are legit, resisting is racist.

"Adios America" by Coulter gave Trump his breakout, with a speech on the destructive illegal invasion, that dared to factually counter the multi-culti abusive love affair with treasonous open border policy.  But "Alien Nation" was written in 1995, about the 1965 immigration act choking off European immigration and opening doors from the third world.  We still got stuck with open border/free trade Bush (and Cruz campaigning for him in 2000, which gave rise to his career, and Goldman Sachs getting their hooks into him in 2005.)

We're 50 years into the irrational exuberance, and 35 years into trade deficits, with only Reagan briefly reversing the trend. 

Export of our manufacturing base under the Orwellian "Free Trade" deals has continued.  (yes manufacturing is "up" but workers are down.  When technology and productivity freed farmers to go to town, they took up the new tech and worked in factories.  But now the new tech is given to cheap labor in the third world, to profit the oligarchs that the free trade neocons praise. 

That means communist countries are Free to use their slaves and our technology to compete (and build their military, buy our government), against Americans with higher value on individual liberty (which has a cost).  We ruthlessly fought wars against such commie/socialists, but now "Socialists 'R' Us". 

Trump (or cruz, though I have many doubts) is an answer to the sellouts.  Cruz would meticulously argue within the new PC confines, Trump throws the bums out.  Jack Welch thinks Cruz would do it faster but likes Trump, but Welch is too much GE/Wall Street for me, though I always listen to him.  God give us a Trump, or a Cruz ... it's our last chance for sovereignty.

my Sunday sermon ... ha

Posted by: Illiniwek at January 31, 2016 06:40 AM (5Gpe2)

222 Jwest: You are correct about the Palin bashing from the right side. I love Trump because he doesn't take the media's BS, unlike the other GOP candidates. No doubt Andrew Breitbart would be a Trump fan.

Posted by: AuH2O at January 31, 2016 07:02 AM (m9wUQ)

223 The Iowa caucus midwinter fun and games. Winning these caucuses means absolutely nothing. Who won the Republican race in Iowa four years ago? Eight eight years ago? A state with a population of of under three million people. Sorry, if I hurt people feelings but Iowa just isn't important.

Posted by: burt at January 31, 2016 07:05 AM (r1CBK)

224 >>No doubt Andrew Breitbart would be a Trump fan. Not exactly. http://tinyurl.com/pjgtkw4

Posted by: JackStraw at January 31, 2016 07:08 AM (/tuJf)

225 Preparing a human (liberal) sacrifice in the hope of invoking SMOD to deliver us

Posted by: THE big old fat guy at January 31, 2016 07:10 AM (uFW3M)

226 I'm surprised how many people I know are turned off by Cruz, saying he gives off a creepy, weird vibe. I just don't see it, but I hear it quite frequently. I wonder how real it would have been had I not heard it mentioned in the media at various times. Kinda like Jeb! and his "low energy" thing...subconsciously people probably thought it a bit, but nothing serious. Once Trump started hammering away at it, though, the effect was amplified, and Jeb! suddenly looked (much more) pathetic.

Posted by: Grimaldi at January 31, 2016 07:10 AM (Ycz0Z)

227 Lol, but if Trump loses in Iowa, we will then be swamped with stories of how IMPORTANT Iowa is.

Posted by: AuH2O at January 31, 2016 07:14 AM (m9wUQ)

228 JackStraw, And your point is? Sorry but the way Trump is handling the corrupt media, no question Breitbart would be cheering on Trump. Trump understands to beat the dems, you've also got to beat the media.

Posted by: AuH2O at January 31, 2016 07:18 AM (m9wUQ)

229 >>JackStraw, And your point is? I thought it was clear. Breitbart was not a Trump supporter and if you read the link he cautioned that if conservatives didn't get their shit together that a celebrity candidate like Trump was a very real possibility.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 31, 2016 07:21 AM (/tuJf)

230 D.C.-liberals and D.C.-conservatives have used America and America's credit rating to enrich themselves the last 50 years. Now that Americans are looking at the bill, they don't like what the D.C.-liberals and D.C.-conservatives have done, and are maybe motivated to take back their country. The D.C.-liberals and D.C.-conservatives are horrified.

Posted by: dfp21 at January 31, 2016 07:23 AM (9gxfj)

231 Eh that's pretty weak sauce. If Breitbart was witness to the last 4 years of the GOP I believe he would change his opinion of Trump. Even if Breitbart wasn't a Trump fan he'd applaud him for the way he's exposed the media both left and right.

Posted by: AuH2O at January 31, 2016 07:25 AM (m9wUQ)

232 Vote for Cruz because Trump is a big phony

Posted by: Irony at January 31, 2016 07:27 AM (T78UI)

233 Amen. http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=361286#c24764829

Posted by: dfp21 at January 31, 2016 07:27 AM (9gxfj)

234 Trump is not a conservative ideologue, and seems to have "supported" whomever he needed for his commercial convenience.  So there is question whether he would actually build the "edifice" he is campaigning on.  But Trump has already knocked down a lot of PC walls, which all other candidates at most timidly pointed at.  Cruz wanted 5X as many H-1Bs just a few months ago, and a year ago said there was no bigger friend of Legal immigration than him.  So it is hard to say he really gets the picture that immigration and anchor babies will end our Republic in short order if not reversed.

Trump said Romney was mean to talk of "self deport" four years ago, but now we have Europe falling and even more open borders.  Trump's interviews with O'Reilly and the life of his kids, and those that have been involved with him, make me think he would keep his word more than most.  He also knows the nuts and bolts of getting big projects done, whereas Cruz knows DC from the inside, and certainly knows law.  We might need Cruz to be Eliot Ness in taking apart the DC Cartel, more than as a senator surrounded by guilty haters.

I still have hope that major elements of corporate America can be brought back to the America First philosophy, and believe most would prefer that, but have been led away by the globalists.  They get paid to play the hand dealt, not to salute the flag.  But I don't see Cruz winning the Reagan Democrats or others toward the middle.  Giuliani feels that way too.  Trump is a pragmatic choice aided by celebrity, but is more than celebrity ... and Cruz has no executive experience on which to hang his hat.

But Trump or Cruz ... there is risk either way.  The other way is a socialist hell.

Posted by: Illiniwek at January 31, 2016 08:02 AM (5Gpe2)

235 TRUMP 2016 America needs an alpha dog in charge to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Posted by: Myshiba at January 31, 2016 08:21 AM (n20xt)

236 Trump may be a reality show barker to you but to me, I don't give a crap who he is. All he needs to do for me to be happy is: 1) Reduce/stop the immigration invasion (legal and illegal). 2) Re-negotiate trade deals to put some consideration into what "middle class Americans" interests are - not just the millionaire/billionaire globalists, who want to destroy nation-states and declare true "one world-ism". But the Establishment/Neocons and their paid for whores in the media and the punditry world won't likely let that happen.

Posted by: GSR at January 31, 2016 08:41 AM (0WdRC)

237 If you ever said Let It Burn, then shut your yap about Trump. You can't have it both ways. Do I like him? No, not really, but GSR is pretty much right: if he can deliver just 2 or 3 things, that's two or three more than we've had in 8 years. Let the liberals have their Social Experiment of a military, and SJW-college kids, and all of the rest of it. If I can get just the few things that Trump will deliver, I'll hold my nose and vote for him. Sure beats "The Gang of 8..."

Posted by: RobM1981 at January 31, 2016 09:26 AM (zurJC)

238 240 If you ever said Let It Burn, then shut your yap about Trump. You can't have it both ways. Do I like him? No, not really, but GSR is pretty much right: if he can deliver just 2 or 3 things, that's two or three more than we've had in 8 years. Let the liberals have their Social Experiment of a military, and SJW-college kids, and all of the rest of it. If I can get just the few things that Trump will deliver, I'll hold my nose and vote for him. Sure beats "The Gang of 8..." Posted by: RobM1981 at January 31, 2016 02:26 PM (zurJC) ^^^^this I have held this view as well. Trump is without a doubt the "let it burn" candidate. Who will at least get us SOME things. but I also think he serves a slightly larger purpose and that Is the culture war. the culture war is far more important and trump is an extremely valuable asset in the culture war. I think Reagan was great not because just his policies were conservative but because he created a culture of conservatism being cool and powerful. Well Donald is doing something similar. He is accompanying what I believe to be an insurgent rise against the political correctness and sjw s of the country and he is without a doubt the biggest threat ever facing them. What are our whiny feminist bitches gonna do if we have freaking trump in the White House?? reality is gonna hit hard and fast as they are now forced to weave even larger webs of bullshit to rationalize away the contradictions in their stupid philosophy. Of course Ted Cruz is more conservative. but the bigger threat right now isn't over tax policy, it's over the heart of the nation. We are at war right now. we should worry about getting the structure of the system right after we win it. coming from a college kid whose surrounded by college kids who are sick of the stupid liberal bullshit our teachers/professors have force fed us the past 15 years.

Posted by: George at January 31, 2016 09:37 AM (w0h2R)

239 Jwest brilliant point I was thinking the same thing about pushing back against the media.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 31, 2016 09:59 AM (G7wcY)

240 199 Noticed the same thing. This talk of "disobedience"....ummm that's a term I heaved only ever heard leftists use.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 31, 2016 10:19 AM (G7wcY)

241 What if Trump made Romney VP? Romney is good at getting things accomplished he just views the left through the gope lens.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 31, 2016 10:21 AM (G7wcY)

242 My thoughts 1. Bernie is a coffe house socialist compared to Obama who is an academic socialist. He found at least hold uni job. 2. W Trump a line from dark knight keeps occuring to me. "And in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn't fully understand."

Posted by: Shiggz at January 31, 2016 10:40 AM (G7wcY)

243 229 there was great Dr who moment unde David Tennent where he tells the lady Prime Minister that if she does something he'll throw her out of power with one word She does it anyway and he goes over to the reporters and says doesn't she look "tired."

Posted by: Shiggz at January 31, 2016 10:50 AM (G7wcY)

244 231 yes trump is not so much a strategist but he is a great tactician meaning if you view the media at the Democrats cavalry he know that when you fight them you have to find a way to neutralize their ca Excellent anime I've been watching called Arslan and the writer of 51st show is the same. Terrible strategist great tactician. Conservatives are waking up to that this is a war and they are in a posturing off weakness and need strategies and tactics that realize that.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 31, 2016 10:57 AM (G7wcY)

245 There is one problem with the old truism about voting to take other people's money, people are greedy enough they want more than what every one else is getting. I think for at least a while there will be enough people, that have something and want to keep it, and have nots that think they can do better on there own, than people who have given up and just want the government to give them what they can get. I think you can also add in the people already on the teat, but don't want too many people sharing the teat with them. If I were a 48 percenter, I wouldn't want to change that to be a 75 presenter.

Posted by: Kasinski at January 31, 2016 11:02 AM (jT38O)

246 Didn't I read somewhere that the Iowa caucus is only important because it launched Jimmy Carter? And before that no one cared about it? Maybe we could stop pretending the Evangelicals in Iowa know what they are doing. Because they obviously haven't got a clue. They gave us Carter.

Posted by: petunia at January 31, 2016 02:27 PM (VoCyE)

247 I have never said let it burn. But if Trump is elected, I might.

Posted by: petunia at January 31, 2016 02:29 PM (VoCyE)

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