November 29, 2007

Duncan Hunter Writes Thank-You Letter To Hillary For The Lovely Plant
— Ace

Cute:

Regarding the “plant”, retired Brig. Gen. Keith H. Kerr, that you sent to ask me the question at the CNN-YouTube debate last night in Florida …

Send more!!!

Merry Christmas,
Duncan Hunter

Peggy Noonan agrees, and celebrates the tough questions from obvious Republican partisans in the Democratic You Tube debate:

I will never forget that breathtaking moment when, in the CNN/YouTube debate earlier this fall, the woman from Ohio held up a picture and said, "Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama, Mr. Edwards, this is a human fetus. Given a few more months, it will be a baby you could hold in your arms. You all say you're 'for the children.' I would ask you to look America in the eye and tell us how you can support laws to end this life. Thank you."

They were momentarily nonplussed, then awkwardly struggled to answer, to regain lost high ground. One of them, John Edwards I think, finally criticizing the woman for being "manipulative," using "hot images" and indulging in "the politics of personal destruction." The woman then stood in the audience for her follow up. "I beg your pardon, but the literal politics of personal destruction--of destroying a person--is what you stand for."

Oh, I wish I weren't about to say, "Wait, that didn't happen." For of course it did not. Who of our media masters would allow a question so piercing on such a painful and politically incorrect subject?

I thought of this the other night when citizens who turned out to be partisans for Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama and Mr. Edwards asked the Republicans, in debate, would Jesus support the death penalty, do you believe every word of the Bible, and what does the Confederate flag mean to you?

PS: It is of course perfectly absurd to speculate that the media would be so unprofessional as to allow hardcore partisan feelings to infect their news judgment.

Thanks to CJ.

PPS: Yes, Jones, I know the question was never asked. That's the point of her remark. I didn't think I should spoil the fun right away but instead chose to play around.

Catch up, people. I won't be slowed down by laggards and goldbrickers.

Posted by: Ace at 08:46 PM | Comments (55)
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1

Um actually this was a hypothetical question from a non existant republican that peggy wished were asked at the democratic debate.


I didnt have a problem with the questions per se i just wished cnn had not portrayed these people as republicans when they were not.


I think that in a republican primary debate some of the questioners should have been republicans. I get the feeling that very few were.


Posted by: jones at November 29, 2007 08:55 PM (ZdNgi)

2 The first candidate to campaign against the media is gonna get some traction.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 29, 2007 08:59 PM (yaQ0s)

3 I (heart) Peggy Noonan.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at November 29, 2007 09:03 PM (1tDA2)

4 Good call, Purple Avenger.
Somebody needs to take those nancy boys to task. The MSM gets all cantankerous when a bunch of pajama-clad morons goes after them so I've no doubt whatsoever that a serious presidential candidate could destroy their sheen of impartiality.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at November 29, 2007 09:05 PM (1tDA2)

5

Peggy pulls it out of the park, and all the way downtown.  Sweet.


Posted by: sherlock at November 29, 2007 09:16 PM (ojW85)

6 Do the comments work?  fynq!

Posted by: sherlock at November 29, 2007 09:17 PM (ojW85)

7 Fixed it.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at November 29, 2007 09:18 PM (1Ug6U)

8 PA & NdB, I have been saying the same thing for weeks everywhere I comment - attack the media NOW, or be prepared to accept their chosen President.  If not now, after this debacle, when?

Posted by: sherlock at November 29, 2007 09:22 PM (ojW85)

9 I don't know if they should attack the media, but rather never miss an opportunity to point out their utter stupidity instead of stupidly playing along to be nice.

That press 'gaggle' Ace linked to? I mean that was heaping pile of stupid.

That's why I loved Rumsfeld so much, he wasn't afraid to call them out. I'll never forget a presser and some ahole journo posed a question to Rummy

"The White House says such and such" and Rummy responded -- "House don't talk."

Stupid journo confused sort of asked Rummy what he meant...

"The White House says, houses don't talk, they don't speak, it's a building"

or something like that.

Posted by: topsecretk9 at November 29, 2007 09:41 PM (ryO1F)

10 I wasn't too crazy about Hunter's answer to the question. It was just the sort of response the left expects from Republicans.

Posted by: Bilby at November 29, 2007 10:26 PM (VM00P)

11 >>I don't know if they should attack the media, but rather never miss an opportunity to point out their utter stupidity instead of stupidly playing along to be nice.

Way back when the Mass Turnpike was built, tolls were authorized to help pay for the initial build. It was actually part of the legislation that the tolls would be removed as soon as the construction, not maintenance costs, were accounted for.

Fast forward decades when not only had the road been paid for 5 times over, not only had the tolls not been removed, they were firmly in place and the fees were raised consistently. Enter Governor Romney who began a campaign to dismantle and remove the tolls against an almost complete Democratic legislature and highly partisan press core. This was a memorable exchange:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-S9Ntek9QE

ps..Romney's replacement, the memorable Deval Patrick, ran on a campaign of reversing Romney on the tolls and also overturning the executive order Romney had enacted assigning the State Police to work in concert with ICE on the illegal problem. The press cheered both initiatives.

Framing matters.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2007 04:02 AM (t+mja)

12 Stacked-Deck...

Posted by: Paladin at November 30, 2007 04:58 AM (bWB5j)

13
I wasn't too crazy about Hunter's answer to the question. It was just the sort of response the left expects from Republicans.

Hellooooo! The left is not voting for any republican so gives a shit what they think.

Posted by: aoshq janitorial & escort service at November 30, 2007 05:02 AM (ibiEO)

14 "Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama, Mr. Edwards, given the tax structure in this country, can you explain why someone who works twice as hard should have to pay twice the tax?...Thank-you."

Posted by: franksalterego at November 30, 2007 05:04 AM (fucEX)

15


Catch up, people. I won't be slowed down by laggards and goldbrickers.

I don't get it.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 30, 2007 05:04 AM (KeOQp)

16 We know why the Democrats are so afraid of FOX.

It goes to show how fucking weak they are.

I guess that's something good that came out of this farce.

I maintain that CNN had this planned a long time ago. Wolf needed to explain that the questioners were just undecided voters...he knew, they all knew.

It was a planned hit.

Posted by: E Buzz Miller at November 30, 2007 05:07 AM (sf4Oe)

17 "Mrs. Clinton, how do you feel about sexual harassment in the workplace?"

"Mr. Obama, you said you wanted to invade Pakistan, what do you think the repercussions would be to this?"

"Mr. Edwards, why did you build such a giant house that consumes so much energy at a time when people are worrying about their next paycheck and how global warming will affect the lives of their children."

Posted by: E Buzz Miller at November 30, 2007 05:10 AM (sf4Oe)

18

"Senator Clinton, do you believe that the Secret Service should be allowed to carry guns to protect you but it would be wrong for law abiding citizens of NYC the right to carry guns to protect themselves."


 


Posted by: polynikes at November 30, 2007 05:21 AM (m2CN7)

19 "Mr. Osama, ...er, Obama, do you agree with the idea, minorities can't be racists?...Thank-you."

Posted by: franksalterego at November 30, 2007 05:24 AM (fucEX)

20 "Mr. Edwards, do you feel that Americans should keep more of their money and if you don't, where is the funding for Universal Health Care going to come from?"

"Mr. Richardson, I loved you in The Blues Brothers."

"Mrs. Clinton, how do you feel about stay at home mothers."

The more I think about that farce, the more obvious it is that Cooper knew exactly what the fuck was going on...

Posted by: E Buzz Miller at November 30, 2007 05:31 AM (sf4Oe)

21 "Ms. Clinton, you recently stated you agreed with the idea of giving Drivers Licenses to Illegal Aliens, and within a wink of an eye, reversed your opinion...Is there a simple explanation for your change of position?....Thank-you."

Posted by: franksalterego at November 30, 2007 05:33 AM (fucEX)

22 "Ms. Clinton, you recently stated, that if you had it to do over again, you wouldn'tve voted to give authority for the use of force to the president to remove Saddam...If elected president, do you expect to get "do-overs"?...Thank-you."

Posted by: franksalterego at November 30, 2007 05:39 AM (fucEX)

23

http://www.newswiretoday.com/news/26809/


It seems as though one of Hillary's biggest boosters has a side gig now.


Posted by: eddiebear at November 30, 2007 05:40 AM (wnU1W)

24 Hahahahahahaha  See?  Ridicule, derision, laughter at their inability to even be clever or smooth in their efforts to hijack the debate....I mean, they couldn't find people who weren't so extremely easy to track back to specific democrat advocacy groups or campaigns?  C'mon, CNN at least be professional about it. 

Posted by: funky chicken at November 30, 2007 05:52 AM (I+jPP)

25 Heeehee  nice questions buzz.  I love your Edwards question, and would want to do a follow up, complete with pictures, of how his mansion helps illustrate the "Two Americas" he likes to talk about.

Posted by: funky chicken at November 30, 2007 05:54 AM (I+jPP)

26 Duncan Hunter's exactly what we need: a happy warrior.

Why don't Republican voters see that?!

Posted by: ricpic at November 30, 2007 05:58 AM (dvyRd)

27

The next time you hear some journalist talking about his duty to "the public's right to know", ask yourself why no journalist has asked this question:


"Mrs. Clinton, can you please tell us the purpose of your advisor Mr. Berger's confessed theft of classified documents from the National Archives prior to the 9-11 Commission hearings, and since he has also confessed to destroying selected documents from that theft, why your campaign, and presumably an administration lead by you, would include an official guilty of behavior so prejudicial to national security, not to mention the appearance of basic trustworthiness?  Thankyou."


Short form:


"Mrs. Clinton, what was in the classified documents that Sandy Berger destroyed to keep from the 9-11 Commission?"


Posted by: sherlock at November 30, 2007 06:00 AM (ojW85)

28 Now, as long as our brighter lights (and Peggy Noonan is a bright light) can only come up with abortion questions......the GOP has a problem.  All of the questions here are better than Noonan's, frankly.

Posted by: funky chicken at November 30, 2007 06:08 AM (I+jPP)

29 We know why the Democrats are so afraid of FOX.

It goes to show how fucking weak they are.

Amen.  Though I can't see Brit Hume being so gullible as to not spot a Republican plant in a Democrat debate.  I get the impression Anderson Cooper has no ability to see through disingenuous propaganda from the left.   Ten minutes of watching his Earth in the Lurch series was all the evidence necessary to see that he is not sharpest tool in the box.

Posted by: Reiver at November 30, 2007 06:13 AM (eh5NM)

30

What I'm really enjoying about this campaign season is that, unlike in 1992, there are places like this blog to expose and document media fraud.


I had two customers in my store yesterday going off about what a sham the debates have been, and I'm fairly certain neither of them visits AOSHQ (God I hope not )


Remember 60 Minutes interview with Billary? The producer admitted years later that whole thing was an attempt to help Clinton's image. Shamelessly.


Well, they aren't getting away with it this time.


Posted by: lauraw at November 30, 2007 06:17 AM (0fbYp)

31

Mrs. Clinton-


In years past, you have been very vocal about something you called a vast right wing conspiracy.  Many claim that you have created your own left wing conspiracy and used loopholes in campaign finance laws to help you and your allies channel 10's of millions of dollars to "advocacy groups" such as Media Matters and Moveon.org.  These groups have achieved 501(c)3 non-profit status but many argue that they are nothing more than extentions of the Democratic Party and you in particular and that you are using these groups and non-tax paying organizations to respond to critics and plant false news stories.


Mrs. Clinton, will you stop your affliliation with these sham advocacy groups and insist that they relinquish their tax free status or will you continue to use them as attack dogs while they hide behind the facade of advocacy?


Oh, and your ass is enormous.


 


Thank you for taking my question.


Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2007 06:19 AM (t+mja)

32

Here is a Huffpo piece that kinda sums up what our side was thinking or saying before the youtube debate. Some were very prescient. Others such as Malkin seemed to anticipate how it would go down but now acts shocked that CNN would have done such a thing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jack-muse/gop-youtube-debate-not-de_b_58367.html


Posted by: polynikes at November 30, 2007 06:35 AM (m2CN7)

33 Was it a chia tree with AL GORES face on it?

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at November 30, 2007 06:39 AM (JyNSh)

34

Mrs. Clinton, how do you think your husband's pardoning of 16 convicted members of the Puerto Rican seperatist group FALN fit into his counter-terrorism policies given that the FALN were known to have committed over 120 bombings in the United States?  And a follow-up please, do you think this action helped your run for the Senate given the large population of Puerto Ricans in New Your City?


Posted by: Nozzle at November 30, 2007 06:51 AM (IVcFp)

35

Yeah but Hillary's new girlfriend, Huma Abedin is so much hotter then her 4 year room-mate at Wellesley Ellie Acheson, who is the founding Director of Public Policy and Government Affairs for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. Ms. Acheson also finds the time to head the Lesbian Gay Bi-Sexual Transgendered Americans For Hillary Steering Committee.


Who really cares if Huma Abedin's relatives are linked to Jihadist extremism...


It certainly doesn't warrant a question any more then Hillary should be asked about Hsu, or George Soros, or Sant S. Chatwal, or Gupta, or Oscar Wyatt's conviction, or Hillary's summer internship with a lawfirm, Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, run by Communists, or Media Fund's fine by the FEC, or MoveOn.org's FEC fines, or Hillary's "suspension of belief" smear of Petreaus now that his plan is working in Iraq, or Hillary's threats against GQ that got an unflattering article pulled, or Sandy Berger's conviction and hiring, or Kathleen Willey's new book, or Hillary's support of amnesty for illegal aliens including her recent flip-flopping on drivers licenses, or Hillary's use of the IRS and FBI and private investigators against political enemies, or...


 


Posted by: DANEgerus at November 30, 2007 06:52 AM (uLDXC)

36 Two weeks ago Edwards and Obama endured a CliNtoN staged informercial featuring Hillary(D) plants as post-MassDerbate "analysts" as well as Hillary campaigners planted as "undecided voters", per Doug Ross' roundup
A Democratic Party bigwig
An antiwar activist
A Union official
An Islamic leader
A Harry Reid staffer
A radical Chicano separatist

In other words... a representative sample of the (D)emocrat party.
Edwards and Obama remained tight-lipped because if they win the nomination over Hillary(D) these will be their partisan activist liars.
Last Night we endured jeering Ron Paulestinians in the audience and demonization of (R)epublicans by Youtube questioners portraying the party as the worst stereotypes of rural America posing questions crafted by (D)emocrat party activists up to, and including, a top Kerry campaigner, and current a member of Hillary Clinton's Gay Steering Committee, who was offered a soap-box by CNN to lecture and demand the (R)epublicans answer for a Clinton administration policy regarding Gays in the military.


Somebody should look Anderson Cooper right in the eye and say "I'm not asking and you don't have to tell"...

CliNtoN is not a news organization, they are an extension of the Hillary Clinton(D) campaign.


Posted by: DANEgerus at November 30, 2007 06:54 AM (uLDXC)

37 I get the impression Anderson Cooper has no ability to see through
disingenuous propaganda from the left.   Ten minutes of watching his
Earth in the Lurch series was all the evidence necessary to see that he
is not sharpest tool in the box.


Plus, he appeared on TV with that horrific Duran Duran/Flock of Seagulls haircut during his reporting in the early 90's.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 30, 2007 06:56 AM (Ds4I5)

38 "To all the candidates, can you tell me what charitable giving you have done out of your own pocket over the last year?"

"Mr. Edwards, how many undocumented workers were involved in the construction of your palace?"

"Mrs. Clinton, what is you specific plan for ending the war in Iraq, and I would like a follow up."

Those jackasses would NEEEEEVER concede to going on FOX, they know they would be exposed for the goddamn frauds they are. It goes with all liberals, when you argue a point and don't let their vague generalities stand, they end the debate. They can do that with that fraud Blitzer because he wants to help them, but Brit Hum wouldn't put up with the flabby stupidity of their statements.

What a total sham. I don't recall the liberal media in the 80's being this suckholeish. I think they were more even towards everybody, and not just some paid off PR machine.

Pathetic.

Posted by: E Buzz Miller at November 30, 2007 06:59 AM (sf4Oe)

39 The Clinton dirty tricks machine is working overtime.  But, the Hildebeast is living in a differant world.  The blogosphere is fact checking everything and we have legitamate news outlets that now raise the bullshit flag.  I suspect we are getting inside her OODA loop, or her ability to Observe, Orient, Decide, Act.  You military guys know what I'm talking about...Maybe it's about time for CNN to run the "character doesn't matter" poll for Hillary.  It worked well for Bill back in the 90s...

Posted by: Nozzle at November 30, 2007 07:27 AM (IVcFp)

40 "Ms. Clinton, beings the 1998 Resolution for the Removal of Saddam was endorsed by an overwhelming majority of the House, and unanimously by the Senate, and signed into law by your husband, if elected president, to you intend to abide by this mandate?...Thank-you."

Posted by: franksalterego at November 30, 2007 07:30 AM (fucEX)

41 oooo, franksalterego, we need to get you to submit lots and lots of video for the next dem debate.  You sound just like the MSM's type of "undecided voter" to me.  LOL  or not...

Posted by: funky chicken at November 30, 2007 08:13 AM (I+jPP)

42 Awesome response, I hope this helps Duncan Hunter get more attention and break free of the second tier.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 30, 2007 08:22 AM (hfyfI)

43

"My question is for Senators Biden & Dodd , Governor Richardson, and Congressman Kucinich


 


Gentlemen,


  Why are you still in the race?  Do you think you've still got a chance?  Are you fucking kidding me?  Don't you all have families & real jobs to spend your time with, instead of beating your head against the Clinton/Obama/Edwards brick wall?


 


Thank you."


Posted by: Russ from Winterset at November 30, 2007 08:29 AM (dyz/7)

44

Some great questions* for Mrs. Clinton.


(These are not my own but I would love to see Hitlery! field them just the same.   Link below.)


1. In May of 2002, you went on the floor of the U.S. Senate and held up a copy of the New York Post, which had the headline "Bush Knew," implying that President Bush had advance knowledge of the 9-11 attacks, but did nothing to stop it. Was this a responsible thing for a U.S. senator to do, implying that the president allowed the 9-11 attacks to happen?


   2. In 1991, you praised Anita Hill, saying she had "changed history with her courageous testimony." Do you really believe that Anita Hill was sexually harassed by Clarence Thomas? And if so, what is your opinion of powerful men who use the power of their positions to sexually harass younger, vulnerable women?


   3. In 2001, you accused the Bush administration of adding arsenic to the nation's drinking supply. (You said, "How can the Bush administration justify wanting Americans to ingest more, not less, arsenic?") Can you explain to the American people why you think president Bush would want to add a poisonous element to our drinking supply?


   4. In October of 2002, on the floor of the U.S. Senate, you stated that Saddam Hussein had "given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members." Are you willing to provide documentation of this, especially given the fact that you've said President Bush used "faulty evidence" to justify going into Iraq?


   5. Your husband is making millions of dollars from speeches, as well as serving on several corporate boards. How will you guarantee that there will be no conflict of interest between his "outside interests" and your administration?


   6. Ken Starr replaced Robert Fiske as the independent counsel. Robert Ray eventually replaced Ken Starr. Fiske has recently said about Starr's Whitewater investigation, "Everything I would have done, Ken Starr did." Robert Ray stated that your testimony in the White House Travel Office investigation was "factually inaccurate." Is it still your contention that Ken Starr and the independent counsel engaged in a "vast, right-wing conspiracy" against you and your husband?


   7. Republican Rep. Dennis Hastert has stated that during a discussion of health care reform you told him: "People are basically greedy and won't make the tough decisions. They won't take their kid to the hospital when he needs to go because they want to keep the money for themselves." Is the former speaker of the House lying? If he's not lying, why do you have such a low opinion of parents in this country?


   8. Back in the early '90s, Bob Woodward quoted you as saying, "I believe in evil and I think that there are evil people in the world." Instead of talking about Islamic terrorists, you were referring to people who were opposed to your health care reform plan. Do you still believe that people who are against health care reform are evil?


   9. Woodward's Watergate partner, Carl Bernstein, has a biography about you. In it he quotes numerous Democrats, both on and off the record, speaking of your temper. Considering the fact that so many Democrats have spoken about your temper and poor judgment, do you think you posses the proper temperament and good judgment to be president of the United States?


  10. Arkansas businesswoman Juanita Broaddrick has accused your husband of sexual assault. She's also said that just weeks after the rape, you approached her and gave her a message that she, Juanita, "was to keep her mouth shut" about the rape. Is Juanita Broaddrick lying?


 


http://www.againsthillary.com/?s=juanita


 


*Three Excedrin please.


Posted by: Aye Chihuahua at November 30, 2007 08:37 AM (d+kiR)

45 Here's the question I'd like have answered:

Senator Clinton, Senator Obama, Senator Edwards: You are running to become chief executive of the federal government of the United States, the largest single enterprise in the world. Just what have you run before? Have you ever run a business? A governmental agency? Served as a governor, or mayor, or city manager? Have you ever in your life had to follow a budget or meet a payroll? If not, why do you think that President of the United States is an entry-level position? Thank you.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 30, 2007 08:56 AM (VrNoa)

46

"Mr. Edwards, given the skyrocketing cost of hair-cuts, do you believe in donating matching funds to the local food-banks?...Thank-you."


"Mr. Osama...er, Obama, if elected president, would you give priority to fighting Fanatic Fundamentalist Islamic Terrorism, or fighting Global Warming?...What would Jesus do?...Thank-you." 


Posted by: franksalterego at November 30, 2007 09:00 AM (LNdHx)

47 "Mr. Kucinich, if a space-ship landed on your roof-top, and a little green man stepped out and asked, 'Take me to your leader,' how would you respond?...Thank-you."

Posted by: franksalterego at November 30, 2007 09:13 AM (LNdHx)

48

"Messers, and Madam, in the interest of Peace, Harmony, and Unity, if elected president, would you be willing to open and disclose John Kerry's complete Military Files, including his original discharge,  and once and for all, put to rest the claims made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?"..."Yes" or "No" would be sufficient...Thank-you." 


Posted by: franksalterego at November 30, 2007 09:57 AM (LNdHx)

49 Do you still believe that people who are against health care reform are evil?


I'd reword this to say "Do you still believe that people who are against nationalized health care are evil?"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 30, 2007 01:45 PM (hfyfI)

50

#45 Great comment...Top tier democrats have laughable experience for the Presidency.  It is a point that needs to be hammered home.  The dems are setting a dangerous precedent this time.  It seems that they have some depth in Biden and Dodd but those guys are hearing nothin but crickets from their electorate.  Weird!


Posted by: Nozzle at December 01, 2007 11:46 AM (IVcFp)

51 2008 will be just about our last chance to save our Republic!  Dem Libs, or should I say, dem Marxists, want to destroy the name of God, the Constitution, capitalism, and just about anything  that we hold dear. 
Ths problem for conservatives is who do we vote for? It appears to me that John Mc Cain and Joe Lieberman together might be the only hope for our country to save us from the marxists and environmental whackos.
I am almost 80. Through all my adult years, I have maintained faith in the innate good sense of the American people.They have failed me only twice; first with Carter and then with CliNtoN.
Please don't fail me again!...........Our Republic is at stake! ............and no it is not a democracy, something our Founding Fathers fought hard to prevent for democracy can  lead to anarchy and that is, with today's crop of  left wing democrats, what we face!
 

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