September 29, 2007
— Dave In Texas I'll make a prediction.
Apologies go better with checks.
Posted by: Mark in Spokane at September 29, 2007 05:39 PM (q4UHB)
Posted by: USCitizen at September 29, 2007 06:01 PM (4HWub)
Apologies go better with checks.
It must be the margaritas I've had tonight. I read apologies go better with chicks. No I don't know what that means, that's just what I read, ok? sheesh
Posted by: pajama momma at September 29, 2007 06:23 PM (Tbl5c)
Posted by: Grimaldi at September 29, 2007 06:30 PM (Rx9GP)
That was a beautiful non-apology.
More weasel words than you can count.
And none of the 88 have apologized...
Duke may as well be Columbia as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Merovign at September 29, 2007 06:45 PM (IaYDo)
It's already happened. Duke settled with all of the victims.
Posted by: W.C. Varones at September 29, 2007 07:16 PM (nv/62)
Posted by: Sticky B at September 29, 2007 07:21 PM (wkjFE)
Posted by: TXMarko at September 29, 2007 07:42 PM (svqBm)
Posted by: sherlock at September 29, 2007 07:57 PM (ojW85)
Totally OT: Geek stuff. That You Can Use Interlude. (I know D-in-T won't mind).
Adobe Flash had been crashing IE7 occasionally (google it) on my system; dunno about yours. Being a major geek, I deleted the damn thing (edited Registry, etc.). Gone. No more crashes. And. Wonder-of-wonders: a major lack of those damn annoying advertisements on sites. Teh bad? - No more YouTube.
So, this being Trek Weekend on NRO (as per Ace link) with a Turkish Star Trek link in YT, I decided to reprise my Adobe Flash hiatus status.
First I set a restore point (JIC ...well, actually first I googled the damn problem for some solutions: you can too, don't have to, as I'll give 'em here ...yep, it's a semi-major problem).
Next, I located, downloaded and installed [LDI] the older Macromedia Flash (v7.61); I got YouTube back (as I suspected, Turkish Star Trek is a major hoot).
Last I LDI'ed IE7Pro (which I'd never heard of before), and installed it. Which add a little "E" icon down on the status bar. Right click that, and choose "Enable Flash Blocking".
Heh. No more ads (well, fewer at least). I almost don't mind all the times Adobe Flash 9 crashed my damn system (otherwise, I'd have never googled the issue/solution). You can thank me later.
Std. Disclaimer: YMMV.
...hey, even AOSHQ moron-istas can use a little Geek-love occasionally.
Posted by: davis,br at September 29, 2007 08:26 PM (5xoMO)
Because I got this great "get rich" scheme that involves %100 clover honey, a receipt from and ATM, and a pathological D.A.
Let me know if your interested.
Posted by: ASW at September 29, 2007 08:54 PM (P90ZL)
Posted by: Ralph L at September 29, 2007 09:16 PM (qD+Un)
lawyers, educators and student affairs leaders to discuss how schools
should deal with students facing serious criminal charges."
Uh, what? Well, maybe they want to explain how *not* to do it lest you be sued for a lot.
Posted by: someone at September 29, 2007 09:40 PM (2z2WN)
Posted by: moviegique at September 29, 2007 10:10 PM (1y5Vr)
Heh. A lazy ass ex-FF user? Or
...the kind that has to support masses of non-geeks with real lives who use IE, of course.
Posted by: davis,br at September 29, 2007 11:33 PM (5xoMO)
Posted by: Nozzle at September 30, 2007 01:52 AM (+rOvD)
As for the text of his "apology", it's a pure concatenation of weasel, meant to deceive rather than enlighten. The Duke "community" not only was "not supportive", it was openly hostile. Radical faculty and students alike assumed the players' guilt and did their very best to torment them. If Duke had merely left them alone, it would have been a long stride in the right direction.
As for what Brodhead will say at that seminar of his, I can sum up what he should say in three sentences:
1. Don't assume they're guilty.
2. Wait for all the facts to come in.
3. Tell the leftards to shove a sock in it.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 30, 2007 02:08 AM (x4rbl)
Posted by: hutch1200 at September 30, 2007 03:44 AM (v6IqT)
"Duke needed to be clear that it demanded fair treatment for its students," he said. "I took that completely for granted. If anyone doubted it, then I should have been more explicit, especially as the evidence mounted that the prosecutor was not acting in accordance with the standards of his profession."
They basically declared them guilty prior to any trial. Duke was a willing participant in the lynch mob. No, that’s not right, Duke was a leader of the lynch mob. The apology is (maybe) a little better than the ‘I’m sorry you misunderstood me’ kind of thing, but not much better.
Posted by: RicardoVerde at September 30, 2007 05:17 AM (QrIXC)
May I recommend a trip to the florist's instead? Cheaper, and just as effective.
Posted by: Steve (the artist formerly known as Ed Snate) at September 30, 2007 05:19 AM (fIA9x)
Brodhead also said the school could have done more to show that some members of Duke's faculty who were openly critical of the lacrosse team did not speak for the university as a whole.
Done more then? Perhaps now Brodhead could suspend the Duke faculty and staff indefinitely until they publicly retract their previous statements, pay the New York Times market rate for a one page ad apologizing to the defamed students and their families, make a one-year's salary contribution to the monetary settlement due the falsely accused, and successfully complete a course on intellectual honesty and ethics to be taught by their victims.
Posted by: cranky at September 30, 2007 06:04 AM (7rKVk)
But I think your point is valid, anyway.
I have a friend of a friend whose land slid off down a hill in a mudslide following torrential rains, killing several members of a family in a house downhill, no fault of his, but he wanted to contact the family, apologize, do what he could for them, etc. But his legal counsel told him, no, you shouldn't do that, any action like that on your part constitutes an admission of guilt which will be used in court when the inevitable lawsuits are filed.
So sometimes our legal system prevents us from doing the right thing.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 30, 2007 06:09 AM (dtQ3T)
As a lawyer, I bet the legal department at Duke has been putting together nice new employment contracts for all faculty and staff, with explicit language regarding these circumstances, and also stating that if the undersigned violates these standards their employment will be summarily terminated.
Money talks and B.S. walks, professor. And alumni donations are something the school administration won't screw with. And massive settlement checks are a reality that cannot be deconstructed.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 30, 2007 06:17 AM (dHK9t)
Here's the lamest paragraph of the whole speech:
Second, some of those who were quick to speak as if the charges were
true were on this campus, and some faculty made statements that were
ill-judged and divisive. They had the right to express their views. But
the public as well as the accused students and their families could
have thought that those were expressions of the university as a whole.
They were not, and we could have done more to underscore that.
Listen to this crapulent clown: "we could have done more..." Yeah, jackhole, in response to the Gang of 88's organized lynch mob tactics, you sat on your hands and didn't do a f'n thing.
I will say it is not one of those infuriating "I'm sorry if you misunderstood me" type apologies. It doesn't go quite that low. However, it is a "mistakes were made" non-apology and falls way short of being an actual apology. It's pretty weaselly.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 30, 2007 06:37 AM (dtQ3T)
Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 30, 2007 07:45 AM (kAnhF)
Um, no. (On the other hand, it doesn't have to be super-expensive jewelry.)
Posted by: someone2 at September 30, 2007 10:49 AM (icjJ2)
Posted by: hutch1200 at September 30, 2007 01:48 PM (v6IqT)
Posted by: hutch1200 at September 30, 2007 01:51 PM (v6IqT)
Posted by: Tarheel at September 30, 2007 05:17 PM (87pUN)
If he's so... so... sorry, then why doesn't the SSoSSS resign!
SSoSSS (sorry sack of siberian sheep excrement)
Posted by: Tarheel at September 30, 2007 05:20 PM (87pUN)
Posted by: esra erol at November 04, 2010 04:37 AM (2x3XE)
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