December 31, 2017

Douche Bags Gotta Douche
— Open Blogger

Or why as a "True Blue Conservative" Brett Stephens still wishes Hillary Clinton was our president.

Tax cuts. Deregulation. More for the military; less for the United Nations. The Islamic State crushed in its heartland. Assad hit with cruise missiles. Troops to Afghanistan. Arms for Ukraine. A tougher approach to North Korea. Jerusalem recognized as Israel’s capital. The Iran deal decertified. Title IX kangaroo courts on campus condemned. Yes to Keystone. No to Paris. Wall Street roaring and consumer confidence high.

And, of course, Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. What, for a conservative, is there to dislike about this policy record as the Trump administration rounds out its first year in office?

That’s the question I keep hearing from old friends on the right who voted with misgiving for Donald Trump last year and now find reasons to like him. I admit it gives me pause. I agree with every one of the policy decisions mentioned above. But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president.


I didn't vote for PDT to be the president of my church council. I didn't elect him to be my BFF. I voted for him to enact the measures that Brett Stephen thinks are good but not good enough. F*ck you.

Yeah, I want to be governed by an unindicted felon and lectured to by a douche bag.

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1 President Trump is not "their kind."

Posted by: huerfano at December 31, 2017 09:11 AM (Dp2K8)

2 What is he supposed to do? Admit that maybe he was "wrong?"

Better to double down and say he wishes Hillary were President because of her superior "character"....

Posted by: Kasper-X-Hauser at December 31, 2017 09:12 AM (k/llo)

3 It gives me pause but I cannot admit I was wrong. Plus dos cocktail parties!

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 09:13 AM (SkuXa)

4 At least you know the President won't be drunk when the phone rings at 4am.

Posted by: Colin at December 31, 2017 09:13 AM (rgpGL)

5 Really weird article: "I got everything I want, but I hate Santa".

What's even stranger is that not a single one of those things would have come with Clinton.  So there must be something Clinton would have brought to the party that he cares more about than the some total of everything he lists as Trump accomplishments.  What in the world could it be?  He doesn't say.

Very odd guy.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 31, 2017 09:14 AM (Po6Jc)

6 "Why I'm still a NeverTrumper"

heh.  How many people are still wearing their pussy hats?

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2017 09:14 AM (bJ0w+)

7 #4 Early threadwinner.

Posted by: fly gal at December 31, 2017 09:14 AM (nTQDM)

8 But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president.

That's just crazy talk. Of the certifiable variety.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2017 09:14 AM (Tyii7)

9 I agree with every one of the policy decisions mentioned above. But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president. Which ultimately means: he does not really agree with those policy decisions. None of them. Because if you think Donald Trump is morally icky, you have to see the same thing in the utterly corrupt, repugnant Hillary Clinton -- or worse. He lies, she lies. He has done nasty things in his past, she has done nasty things in her past. There is no critical moral difference between the two in terms of the past, not in character, only in detail. The big difference is that President Trump appears to have learned and grown. He still lies outrageously, but he's abandoned his womanizing past, from all evidence. No, the real problem is that Donald Trump is too much the Al Czervic in the golf club. He's crass, he talks the wrong way, he's crude in his speech. He doesn't go to all the right parties, he doesn't hang out with all the right people. And that's a hideous, unbelievable attitude to hold.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 09:16 AM (39g3+)

10 To quote someone else, Stephens is just aromatherapy

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 31, 2017 09:16 AM (HLrAV)

11 What in the world could it be? ------------- My unwarranted sense of intellectual superiority. "See! I told you So!". *sticks out tongue*

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 09:17 AM (SkuXa)

12 At least you know the President won't be drunk when the phone rings at 4am.
Posted by: Colin at December 31, 2017 02:13 PM



Nope, he'll be awake, slugging down his second diet Coke and plotting out his tweets for the day in a way designed to drive liberals and "conservatives" like Stephens, Kristol and the staff at the National Review insane.

Posted by: huerfano at December 31, 2017 09:17 AM (Dp2K8)

13 Just think how strange it would be in the WH.  Is Bill the first man?  Is Chelsea acting First Lady?  Foreign trips and who is Hillary taking along with her...

Posted by: Colin at December 31, 2017 09:17 AM (rgpGL)

14 i don't think this nut hugger knows the meaning of conservative.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2017 09:17 AM (KP5rU)

15 If I treated my work emails like Hillary did, I would certainly be doing time.  I signed all the security agreements she did, I just took them seriously.  As she did not, she deserves what is beneath her.  So, put Comey (and all her other FBI lovers) in jail in her place.

Posted by: politics uber alles at December 31, 2017 09:19 AM (DOPuI)

16 But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president.

If wishes were horses, liberal cities would be neck deep in horse shit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 31, 2017 09:19 AM (IcT7t)

17 Yeah, I want to be governed by an unindicted felon and lectured to by a douche bag. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 02:13 PM Well, in this case, you got one of the things you wanted. Of course we ALWAYS get one of the things you mentioned.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2017 09:19 AM (ycWCI)

18 It would have been the most corrupt administration ever, imagine the whhole white house having a private server without accountable records.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2017 09:19 AM (aC6Sd)

19 Hillary Clinton seems to be a significant exception to the rule that people who reach the top levels of power are the type that get by on very little sleep and have extraordinarily good health. She's sickly, messed up, and sleeps like a cat. My guess is in a Hillary administration she'd do virtually nothing in terms of actual policy, mostly a hermit avoiding the press and making few appearances.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 09:20 AM (39g3+)

20 i don't think this nut hugger knows the meaning of conservative.

Of course he does!

Posted by: David Frump at December 31, 2017 09:20 AM (Tyii7)

21 14 Not when he's using a Democrat's definition.

Posted by: Oscar the Clarinet at December 31, 2017 09:20 AM (HOEbO)

22 Brett is *embarrassed* by Trump.

Posted by: VA MKZ at December 31, 2017 09:20 AM (Itgns)

23 And the foreign invasion unabated

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2017 09:21 AM (aC6Sd)

24 The New York Times. I wish it was still a newspaper. Hahahaha....it is too laugh.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2017 09:21 AM (EoRCO)

25 Hillary Clinton seems to be a significant exception to the rule that people who reach the top levels of power are the type that get by on very little sleep and have extraordinarily good health.

She is, in all ways, corrupt.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 31, 2017 09:21 AM (IcT7t)

26 As my grandmother used to say, wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which one fills up first.

Posted by: huerfano at December 31, 2017 09:22 AM (Dp2K8)

27 I got a great wife. She's a great cook, mother, and lover. She loves giving head. Best of all, she owns a liquor store and makes more money than me. But I'm gonna divorce her cuz she voted for Trump.

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 09:22 AM (5fSr7)

28 It would have been the most corrupt administration ever, imagine the whhole white house having a private server without accountable records.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2017 02:19 PM (aC6Sd)


Except we would never know that.....The MFM would all be Gobbels smart.

Posted by: Colin at December 31, 2017 09:22 AM (rgpGL)

29 I got a great wife. She's a great cook, mother, and lover. She loves giving head. Best of all, she owns a liquor store and makes more money than me. ...but I still wish I'd married that heroin addict that hates men and spent all my money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 09:24 AM (39g3+)

30 From the kinked article:


I agree with every one of the policy decisions mentioned above. But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president.

How does that make sense? Can I still call myself conservative?



You can call yourself anything you want.  But in the end you work for the NYT so you are not and never will be any kind of conservative.  You are a liberal ass.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 31, 2017 09:24 AM (mpXpK)

31 "She is, in all ways, corrupt." She drank the blood of a unicorn.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at December 31, 2017 09:24 AM (5fSr7)

32 The second to the last paragraph of that opinion piece belongs in a composter.  Pure horseshit.

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2017 09:25 AM (bJ0w+)

33 Brett's creases are impeccable.

Posted by: David Brooks at December 31, 2017 09:25 AM (SkuXa)

34 Mis, you know I love and value all of your posts but this . . . well, my friend, you have outdone yourself!!!  Kudos.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 09:25 AM (14URa)

35 Time to dig up my official Puthy Hat.

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 09:25 AM (Tyii7)

36 now we know what Jennifer Rubin would look like as a tranny

i'm calling it

2017 is done and done

Posted by: happyfeet at December 31, 2017 09:26 AM (mLfQi)

37 I think we should be amazed and glad that this line was published in the New York Times, information that is probably stunning to their readers: "Wall Street roaring and consumer confidence high." That's not information they're getting from the old gray lady.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 09:27 AM (39g3+)

38 "But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president."

The only thing worse than the enemy is a traitor.  People like Stephens would be wise to remember that.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 31, 2017 09:27 AM (jWe5r)

39 Can I have a non-tactile hug?

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 09:28 AM (Tyii7)

40 The New York Times.

I wish it was still a newspaper.

Hahahaha....it is too laugh.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2017 02:21 PM (EoRCO)


This past week they did at least run a long article about how bad it is to get any government project done in the city.  Speaking of a new subway tunnel and what it takes (money) to get anything done.  Agreements with the unions, politicians costs billions more than it should.  I can see why Trump cancelled US help to build the Hudson river tunnel, even if it is needed.  He knows all the shit that goes on in the NYC building trades.

Posted by: Colin at December 31, 2017 09:28 AM (rgpGL)

41 39 Can I have a non-tactile hug?

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 02:28 PM (Tyii7)

Would you settle for the dog humping your leg?  Oh, what am I saying, of course you would. 

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 09:29 AM (14URa)

42 Barack Stephens was born in NYC but raised in Mexico City, where his father was born and worked. And I guess when he saw Caddyshack, he was rooting for Judge Smails.

Posted by: vivi at December 31, 2017 09:30 AM (11H2y)

43 As a child, the kids on the playground would box me about the ears unmercifully.

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 09:30 AM (Tyii7)

44 One of the most infuriating things about big cities for those who don't live in them is how they presume that everyone should help build their stuff. Not just sporting stadiums, but bridges, light rail, tunnels, subways, etc. Tax the whole state to benefit one area. The hell with you and your grasping ways. If you need it done, you pay for it. Don't give me that 'overall economic benefit' crap. This isn't trickle down, its about you and your benefit and maybe other parts of the state in several removes might get a ha'penny.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 09:31 AM (39g3+)

45 "But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president." When then you're a blazing idiot. Who wears velcro sneakers.

Posted by: Liberal in Cali at December 31, 2017 09:31 AM (gSwpy)

46 I saw a video of where an adopted daughter cut off the Mom because the Mom voted for Trump, due to religious concerns. The daughter is also not letting the Mom see her Grandkids, the Mom adopted her from Korea, and if it's like anything my friend's wife told me she very lucky and should be kissing her Mom's ass. My friends wife had to steal food in order to feed her Brother in the orphanage.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 31, 2017 09:31 AM (dKiJG)

47 He uses a Danial Patrick Moynihan quote to define conservatism? What a twatwaffle.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 09:31 AM (NWiLs)

48 "What, like with a rag?"

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 31, 2017 09:31 AM (AsjQP)

49 Not watching CNN tonight, but any BJ's being given out to whats his name, like last year during the show.

Posted by: Colin at December 31, 2017 09:31 AM (rgpGL)

50 /off LIC sock

Posted by: jsg at December 31, 2017 09:32 AM (gSwpy)

51 This is just like the NYC mayoral politics I grew up with, but on a national scale, if Staten Island had the population of Brooklyn. Obama was a mix of Dinkins (identity politics) and Lindsey (triumphant idiotice liberalism), with a smidgen of Abe Beame (fiscal irresponsibility). Just like the nimwitz quoted above, NYC MSM hated on Rudy the full eight years, even when positive change was self-evident. But the voters disagreed, and Rudy even won Manhattan when he got re-elected. History can rhyme. I said that with Trump we'd get someone with Mad Media Skillz -- necessary for an R President right now -- and Rudy Giuliani pragmatism. Trump's doing on a bigger scale what Rudy did in NYC. What will kill self-appointed Thought Leaders like Brett Stephens is that they're going to wind up on the Wrong Side of History.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 09:32 AM (pV/54)

52 I never forgave my mom for forcing me to wear a pork chop necklace.

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 09:32 AM (Tyii7)

53 My guess is in a Hillary administration she'd do virtually nothing in terms of actual policy, mostly a hermit avoiding the press and making few appearances. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 02:20 PM (39g3+) Except for working on all the punitive measures against conservatives and people who were mean to her. I fully expected her to put in some serious overtime to make that happen.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2017 09:33 AM (eXA4G)

54 Must have been some hoity-toity party coming up he wanted an invite to. Switch sides and declare already.

Posted by: jsg at December 31, 2017 09:33 AM (gSwpy)

55 49; i will be exclusively beejers all night. that's not the times square ball dropping there, my friend.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2017 09:33 AM (KP5rU)

56 "But character does count, and virtue does matter..." AND YET... "I still wish Hillary Clinton were president."

Posted by: Eric at December 31, 2017 09:34 AM (LiN1N)

57 47 He uses a Danial Patrick Moynihan quote to define conservatism? What a twatwaffle. Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 02:31 PM (NWiLs) Second look at 'Daft Trout'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2017 09:34 AM (ycWCI)

58 But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president. -------------- They think, and vote, with their 'feelings', not with the best interests of the Republic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 31, 2017 09:34 AM (9tO1t)

59 Someone needs to go find all the predictions about the Trump administration his haters made, all the "he's gonna" shrieks, and list them all with how not a single one turned out to be true. Didn't start WWIII Didn't eliminate women's rights Didn't eliminate minority rights Didn''t fire Mueller Didn't aid Putin Didn't ignite trade war Didn't cause a recession Didn't crash stock market Didn't destroy the enviornment Didn't create Handmaid's Tale Didn't ban abortion Didn't throw reporters in jail like his predecessor... I mean you can do the same thing with Obama (FEMA camps, gun seizure, etc) but with Trump its been even more outrageous.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 09:34 AM (39g3+)

60 "I like all these things but I wish a person who would never do any of this,in fact make worse choices that harm the country in every area was president." Bret "Call me Retard" Stephens

Posted by: steevy at December 31, 2017 09:34 AM (LiyEm)

61 President Trump is not their kind. ============= I am beginning to believe this is the only possible reason.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 31, 2017 09:35 AM (SBNkx)

62 You posted an interesting quote from the article - but not the best part.

He wishes Hillary was President because - get this - "character counts" (being the backbone of the culture/society); then he lists all the terrible character flaws exhibited by Donald Trump.

And nowhere in the article is there a single listing of a positive character trait ever exhibited by Hillary Clinton.  "Douche" is a pretty mild descriptive for this Marxist trying to hide his colors.

Posted by: one-eyed cat peepin' in the seafood store at December 31, 2017 09:35 AM (/sTHK)

63 Didn't start WWIII Didn't eliminate women's rights Didn't eliminate minority rights Didn''t fire Mueller Didn't aid Putin Didn't ignite trade war Didn't cause a recession Didn't crash stock market Didn't destroy the enviornment Didn't create Handmaid's Tale Didn't ban abortion Didn't throw reporters in jail like his predecessor... Well.....Yet....

Posted by: Any Day Now at December 31, 2017 09:35 AM (gSwpy)

64 24 The New York Times. I wish it was still a newspaper. Hahahaha....it is too laugh. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2017 02:21 PM (EoRCO) The NYT hasn't been a newspaper since at least the time Walter Duranty started sucking Soviet shvantz.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 09:35 AM (NWiLs)

65 Read the article. I have no idea why this Stephens dude is so down on Trump. It was a great year for conservatives and still a decent good year for Republicans in general. Even the GOPe crowd, may God smite them with Male Pattern Baldness. But yeah, he gets published in the Times, so he has to toe the line and say "Bad Trump!" I guess he is as much of a WASP coastie with his nose in the air about us Deplorables as the Limousine Liberals.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 31, 2017 09:35 AM (W+kMI)

66 I swear it's as though there is a race to the summit of Mt. Retard.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2017 09:36 AM (Sfs6o)

67 Thank you, MisHum. I couldn't have said it better.

Posted by: ChupaMe at December 31, 2017 09:36 AM (irEaO)

68 If Hilllary was Presdent we would be in grate shape and the children, poor, gays and lesbians would be better off and the world would loves us. This is why the world hates us because they hate Trump too !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien at December 31, 2017 09:36 AM (u54O2)

69 When I was three, I was punished severely for drinking from the bidet.

Posted by: Brett Stephens at December 31, 2017 09:36 AM (Tyii7)

70 Oh, lovely, another mass shooting in Colorado.  Mostly sheriff's deputies, one fatally.  WTH is wrong with people?

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 09:36 AM (14URa)

71 I am beginning to believe this is the only possible reason. I have wracked my brain for a year and I cannot come up with any other explanation at this point. They are horrified at his behavior. Like Vivi says above, they'r Smails fans. That's the only thing that makes sense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 09:38 AM (39g3+)

72 Except for working on all the punitive measures against conservatives and people who were mean to her. I fully expected her to put in some serious overtime to make that happen. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 31, 2017 02:33 PM (eXA4G) This was the brass ring she had been chasing all her life. Not only a chance to validate her existence, but also a chance to finally show all those who doubted/worked against her. Every reporter who ever questioned her? Audited. Every state that did not vote for her? I am sure there would have been punitive measures and EOs. Bill? He might have suddenly been the victim of a mugging where he was found naked and with 30 holes in his head and emasculated. And we would have heard about how tragic the great love affair coming to an end was and how brave and noteworthy she was for working through it. Every person who was not boisterous enough in their support for her would have been a target. She is not a good person to put in power in any way shape or form. EXACTLY the wrong type of person. Stalin with more of a persecution complex.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2017 09:39 AM (ycWCI)

73 The guy's a dope who can't admit he was wrong.  The streets are full of them.  Not even going to bother to read his silly article.  I've got no time to waste on the 'despair-as-my-preffered-option' people anymore.  Done now.

Posted by: grammie winger - at December 31, 2017 09:39 AM (lwiT4)

74 I am beginning to believe this is the only possible reason.

I have wracked my brain for a year and I cannot come up with any other explanation at this point. They are horrified at his behavior. Like Vivi says above, they'r Smails fans. That's the only thing that makes sense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+)

Never discount the power of stupid.  They get a minimum 12 years of it and a lot go for another 4 or 6.  There is simply no talking sense to these dipshits.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 09:39 AM (14URa)

75 It's risible to say that Hillary has character and Trump doesn't. Hillary's the most corrupt person in our history to reach high levels of power. It's there to see, if you only look.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 09:40 AM (pV/54)

76 I think we should start referring to these people as the "Judge Smails Right" rather than NeverTrumpers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 09:40 AM (39g3+)

77 Every person who was not boisterous enough in their support for her would have been a target. First to stop clapping gets a bullet.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 09:40 AM (NWiLs)

78 4 At least you know the President won't be drunk when the phone rings at 4am. ==== Too right. He will take the call, make a decision from the list of options, give the order to procede, get dressed, smack Melania on her butt and give her a kiss, then go to work early. The White House kitchen can whip up some Diet Coke and breakfast.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 31, 2017 09:40 AM (W+kMI)

79 70 Oh, lovely, another mass shooting in Colorado. Mostly sheriff's deputies, one fatally. WTH is wrong with people? Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 02:36 PM (14URa) This started as a domestic, and the loon started shooting at the deputies. I believe the bad guy is assuming room temperature.

Posted by: ChupaMe at December 31, 2017 09:41 AM (irEaO)

80 It's not just Trump is Al Czervik in Caddy Shack. It's not Hillary over Donald. It's not just the Deep State versus the plebes. Donald is a living refutation of the illusion of the elite governance of America. All the lies and half lies we've all be fed for generations through Mass Media are in danger of being refuted by the existence of Trump. Hillary and Bill, Obama and his OFA followers, the editorial board of the NY Times, or the WaPo, are underneath, just as coarse, vulgar, corrupt and totally human just like Donald Trump. The difference is that Donald Trump is just who he appears to be. If he would adopt the illusion of the idiotic Elites that have manipulated us for decades, they would accept him. They feed us a bucketfull of altruistic lies about Open Borders, Dreamers, the downtrodden poor, Pseudo refugees from the Middle East, Islam is the religion of peace and on, and on. They expect us to swallow all this and be the good submissive citizens that the majority of us have always been. Eight years of Obama had a lot of us ready to barf it all up. Another term with Hillary was just too much. People around me still remark how STUPID people are that voted for Trump. I wonder if it isn't really the reverse. People want the comfort of belief over thought, they want the pretend world that existed for years. They want to be sheep or shepherds. They don't really want to be Free Men and Women. And that's really the lie that Trump has exposed. A lot of so-called Americans actually reject the idea of freedom. They want a heirarchy, with all us deplorables doing the work, keeping the wheels turning, chanting about the American Dream whatever that has actually become. And Bret Stephens, David Frum, Bill Kristol, Cokie Roberts, Walter Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley, Scott Pelley, and all the rest, preaching to us every night about how the world SHOULD be.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at December 31, 2017 09:41 AM (S6Pax)

81 Never discount the power of stupid. They get a minimum 12 years of it and a lot go for another 4 or 6. There is simply no talking sense to these dipshits. Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 02:39 PM (14URa) I once told a NeverTrumper he was just mad his candidate lost (implying Hillary in the context of the discussion). He got 50 shades of pissed. Perhaps I hit a bit too close to the mark.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 09:42 AM (NWiLs)

82 I just don't get how you can like a candidate's policies but not want him to be in office. Putting aside her many failings while in her appointed office, on style and intellect alone, is Hillary really that smooth and sophisticated? I find her delivery harsh and grating and her ideas stale. I think they are perplexed that we have someone in the White House who wasn't a lawyer or of the professional governing class. Kind of like how Eisenhower was only a military man, forgetting his administrative genius.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 31, 2017 09:42 AM (qJtVm)

83 "But character does count, and virtue does matter..." AND YET... "I still wish Hillary Clinton were president." Posted by: Eric -------------- If his mind was a gear box, it would strip a cog.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 31, 2017 09:43 AM (nBBdT)

84 Why the 500 server error so often?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 31, 2017 09:44 AM (HLrAV)

85 The Nevertrumpers are finally admitting they prefer Hillary. Even though they swore up and down that opposing Trump was not support for Hillary. Poor Egg McMuffin must be heartbroken.

Posted by: Sjg at December 31, 2017 09:44 AM (gDSJf)

86 PDT has turned "conservatism" upside down, and shaken all the change out of its pockets.

I'm good with it.

Posted by: Randy Westerfeld at December 31, 2017 09:44 AM (/Y+z7)

87 So what more could Trump do to win these morons over? Nothing.

Posted by: jsg at December 31, 2017 09:44 AM (gSwpy)

88 Cannot post anything but short phrases

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 31, 2017 09:44 AM (HLrAV)

89 5 Really weird article: "I got everything I want, but I hate Santa". Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 31, 2017 02:14 PM (Po6Jc) That's a threadwinner.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 09:44 AM (sdi6R)

90 Do Summers Eve douche products freeze @-3? 'cos I can't get Stepehen's in box!

Posted by: saf at December 31, 2017 09:45 AM (cS/ge)

91 Donald Trump is the most conservative President we've ever had more so than Reagan, Reagan was bad on immigration and the 2nd amendment, he banned open carry when he was Governor for instance. If trump does nothing else, he's has his rightful place in the pantheon of great Presidents. Assholes like Stephens are con men and have adopted conservatism as a pose.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 31, 2017 09:45 AM (0C1BG)

92 73 The guy's a dope who can't admit he was wrong. The streets are full of them. Not even going to bother to read his silly article. I've got no time to waste on the 'despair-as-my-preffered-option' people anymore. Done now. Posted by: grammie winger - at December 31, 2017 02:39 PM (lwiT4) -------------------------------- If you really want a slice of crazy hate, read the comments. However, be warned you're diving into a whirlpool of insanity.

Posted by: Blake at December 31, 2017 09:45 AM (WEBkv)

93 Shorter Bret Stephens:  "Hillary Clinton will never be President.  Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 31, 2017 09:45 AM (Po6Jc)

94 63 Didn't throw reporters in jail like his predecessor... Well.....Yet.... ======= Are you kidding me? The Donald is having fun trolling reporters on Twitter and then laughing when they freak out. Arresting them would be serious business, a waste of money and time, and therefore not to be done.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 31, 2017 09:45 AM (W+kMI)

95 Cuckism

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 09:45 AM (+iFQS)

96 They don't really want to be Free Men and Women. Posted by: Bozo Conservative. ------------ They do not want to assume true personal responsibility for their lives.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 31, 2017 09:47 AM (nBBdT)

97 OT_The WAPO-instead in addition to be utterly biased are utter grinches. I'm sorry, but nobody of any integrity as a historian thinks that Jesus didn't exist. They are free to debate that he wasn't the son of God or the Christ if they want to, but even people who are so religiously liberal it would make one's head spin-such as Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong-don't think that Jesus never existed. As this article pointed out WAPO would never same about Mohammed and there's less evidence he existed than that Jesus did: https://tinyurl.com/y6vpdx9j

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2017 09:47 AM (8+Ozj)

98 I mean you can do the same thing with Obama (FEMA camps, gun seizure, etc) Barky tried gun seizures. He thought, after the Aurora shooting and the Colorado government's overreaction (and Coloradans' inability to act on it) that he could get his gun grab to pass the federal Congress as well. He thought wrong.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 31, 2017 09:47 AM (BrdRh)

99 Hillary Clinton is and was a fucking disaster.   I wouldn't be surprised if her grandchildren are deathly afraid of her googly-eyed mug.

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2017 09:50 AM (bJ0w+)

100 I agree with every one of the policy decisions mentioned above. But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president. Is this not the very definition of childish?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 31, 2017 09:50 AM (WbIyz)

101 They do not want to assume true personal responsibility for their lives. Posted by: Mike Hammer In a nutshell, yes.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at December 31, 2017 09:50 AM (S6Pax)

102 This is what Cuckservatism looks and smells like. Right, bret sphtephens?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 09:50 AM (+iFQS)

103 9 No, the real problem is that Donald Trump is too much the Al Czervic in the golf club. He's crass, he talks the wrong way, he's crude in his speech. He doesn't go to all the right parties, he doesn't hang out with all the right people. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 02:16 PM (39g3+) I can't claim to have supported Trump from the very beginning. My first choice was Scott Walker and my second was Rand Paul. But I recognized the Al Czervic vibe from Trump very quickly, and then I *got* it.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 09:51 AM (sdi6R)

104 Any man who voted for Hillary, without a gun pointed at their head, has got to be gay. That's all there is to it.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2017 09:51 AM (tcwn1)

105 Hillary, Cersei Lanister without the sex appeal. She would have been worse than Obama in abusing the Deep State against the rest of us. She would have failed as a leader in any kind of crisis.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 09:52 AM (pV/54)

106 These #nevertrumpers have lost their minds. They've literally been driven insane by the advent of Donnie Two Scoops.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2017 09:52 AM (c8EhQ)

107 He thought wrong.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 31, 2017 02:47 PM (BrdRh)

Every minute of his life.  If they weren't wrong thoughts, they bypassed him completely.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 09:52 AM (14URa)

108 104 Any man who voted for Hillary, without a gun pointed at their head, has got to be gay. That's all there is to it. Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2017 02:51 PM (tcwn1) *snort* HOMOPHOBE!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 09:53 AM (NWiLs)

109 **"But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president."**

Oh how I want these a$$hole on our side dead!

Posted by: Paladin at December 31, 2017 09:53 AM (PFcH/)

110 If you really want a slice of crazy hate, read the comments. However, be warned you're diving into a whirlpool of insanity. Posted by: Blake at December 31, 2017 02:45 PM (WEBkv) --- Never, EVER read the comments. Don't do it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 31, 2017 09:53 AM (qJtVm)

111 No, the real problem is that Donald Trump is too much the Al Czervic in the golf club. He's crass, he talks the wrong way, he's crude in his speech. He doesn't go to all the right parties, he doesn't hang out with all the right people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 02:16 PM (39g3+)

And he's got  more money than all of 'em put together and he's one of US!  Gawd, I love that man.  So grateful for the sacrifices he's making to help our country.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 09:53 AM (14URa)

112 Hey, where's my reputation go? Where's my influence? Get those people back in here! TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!

Posted by: Jenn Rubin at December 31, 2017 09:53 AM (c8EhQ)

113 Cf playoff predictions?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 31, 2017 09:53 AM (PUmDY)

114 She would have been worse than Obama in abusing the Deep State against the rest of us. She would have failed as a leader in any kind of crisis. Posted by: Ignoramus Failure can be a very subjective word in this framework. We all commented about what a failure Obama was. But he was successful in making the FedGov more powerful, tyrannical and abusive of power. "Who, me?" Obama shrugs shoulders.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at December 31, 2017 09:54 AM (S6Pax)

115 Douches and bags are both useful.  This clown is neither.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/u][/s] at December 31, 2017 09:54 AM (FhXTo)

116
I have a theory:

Brett Stephens made a REALLY hefty donation to The Clinton Crime Family Foundation.


Posted by: Randy Westerfeld at December 31, 2017 09:55 AM (/Y+z7)

117 Yeah, I want to be ... lectured to by a douche bag.

MisHum, have you considered the possibility that if you weren't lectured to by a douche bag, you might never get lectured to at all?

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at December 31, 2017 09:55 AM (DMUuz)

118 How many months into a Hillary administration would we before her winged monkeys shut down Ace's place?

Posted by: VA MKZ at December 31, 2017 09:55 AM (Itgns)

119 104 Any man who voted for Hillary, without a gun pointed at their head, has got to be gay. That's all there is to it. Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2017 02:51 PM (tcwn1) --- Oh, but that's just not true. They may phrase it as "I voted Democrat" but they sure as shit voted for Hillary because Right Thinking People never vote Republican.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 31, 2017 09:56 AM (qJtVm)

120 In what Bizarro World does Hillary Clinton have more virtue & character than any random person picked out of the phone book, much less Trump? You want to say he's a naughty person? Fine, whatever. But there's no way he's a worse person than HRC. Enjoy your fucking cocktail parties.

Posted by: josephistan at December 31, 2017 09:56 AM (ANIFC)

121 I think the truth of it is pretty simple. He didnt get what he wanted policy wise, those policies are just what he has to claim to support occasionally to keep his "conservative perspective" column. That keeps the communist rags happy because they don't want actual couterpoints, they want someone on the other side agreeing with them. If he came out publicly as a leftist, he'd have to compete against the myriad of other leftist columns and probably end up getting axed.

Posted by: Sjg at December 31, 2017 09:57 AM (gDSJf)

122 Take this for what it's worth, then I have to go take a nap.


God's hand was in the last election.  He took an imperfect man and used him to further His purposes and to stay the judgment that was headed towards our land.  God has been very gracious to us.  Thank God first, thank Trump secondly.  He has been the scalpel in the hand of the Great Physician.


Well, maybe more a bludgeon than a scalpel, but you catch my drift.


There is a spiritual battle for this nation.  It is ongoing and it is fierce.  We only see the physical manifestations of it.  There is much more behind the scenes.  God is using an unlikely warrior.  Pray for Donald Trump.

Posted by: grammie winger - at December 31, 2017 09:57 AM (lwiT4)

123 118 How many months into a Hillary administration would we before her winged monkeys shut down Ace's place? Posted by: VA MKZ at December 31, 2017 02:55 PM (Itgns) Maybe not directly, but I could definitely see using a weaponized IRS and FCC to shut down, or at least discourage, the dextrosphere.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 09:57 AM (NWiLs)

124 Trump looks healthy, and should have no problem looking so in 2020. The D nominee field right now are geriatrics and young flakes who are in a race to the Looney Left. There's high odds that one or more of Bernie, Warren, Biden, Hill and Bill will be dead by 2020, exposing the former. Trump's success in his first term will expose the latter.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 09:57 AM (pV/54)

125 actually reject the idea of freedom. They want a heirarchy, with all us deplorables doing the work, keeping the wheels turning, chanting about the American Dream whatever that has actually become. And Bret Stephens, David Frum, Bill Kristol, Cokie Roberts, Walter Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley, Scott Pelley, and all the rest, preaching to us every night about how the world SHOULD be. Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at December 31, 2017 02:41 PM (S6Pax) Thank you, BC, for so eloquently describing the dynamic between PDT, the Deplorables, and the GOPe. It's like you live in my mind. I just can't express it as well.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 09:58 AM (TdMsT)

126 How many months into a Hillary administration would we before her winged monkeys shut down Ace's place? Posted by: VA MKZ Shut down? Too obvious. Eliminate any anonymity of the internet. We all have to use our real names. There goes a lot of that internet courage and freedom.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at December 31, 2017 09:58 AM (S6Pax)

127 God's hand was in the last election. He took an imperfect man and used him to further His purposes and to stay the judgment that was headed towards our land. God has been very gracious to us. Thank God first, thank Trump secondly. He has been the scalpel in the hand of the Great Physician.


Well, maybe more a bludgeon than a scalpel, but you catch my drift.


There is a spiritual battle for this nation. It is ongoing and it is fierce. We only see the physical manifestations of it. There is much more behind the scenes. God is using an unlikely warrior. Pray for Donald Trump.

Posted by: grammie winger - at December 31, 2017 02:57 PM (lwiT4)

I believe this with all my heart, grammie!  And I love you and wish you a Happy New Year.  Enjoy your nap and I hope you and the Rev get out the disco ball and dance until you can't tonight.  I will be sleeping.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 09:58 AM (14URa)

128 F*ck you I think you should use a black diamond rather than an asterisk. That would make the phrase a little more forceful and sinister.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 31, 2017 09:58 AM (8gDQu)

129 114 Failure can be a very subjective word in this framework. We all commented about what a failure Obama was. But he was successful in making the FedGov more powerful, tyrannical and abusive of power. Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at December 31, 2017 02:54 PM (S6Pax) Yes. For globalists, kneecapping America was always the plan.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 09:59 AM (sdi6R)

130 Yeah, I want to be governed by an unindicted felon and lectured to by a douche bag. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 02:13 PM --- If one reads the reader comments at the NYT, one will be lectured by hundreds of douchebags. The irrational anti-Trump hatred seems to boil down to three things in both the disgraced establishment talking heads and the public: 1. Style. A shallow obsession with apoearance over results. This extends way beyond Trump's unprecedented abrasiveness to the traditional leftist predeliction for valuing noble-sounding promises over actual tracking of real outcomes. 2. Ox gored. They benefit directy or indirectly from the globalist/big government/welfare state status quo and simply believe the new situation is going to break their rice bowl. 3. Ego. The experts were humiliated by being proved wrong again and again. The Hillary voters were utterly wrong. Trump, and by extension us, did that to them. As Ace has noted more than once, the Orogressives want to be part of a carved-out moral and intellectual elite. That tribal status is more important to them than even their own long-term survival.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 31, 2017 09:59 AM (TwzNB)

131 One of the rhings we learned, when they passed a law for cheaper car licenses in WA state, was that the entire state was funding the ferry system. Folks on the dry side, with a lot less money, got to pay for the comfortable commutes pf the people in well to do Puget Sound. And the entire state got to pay to replace the Kingdome. There should be a way to make the cities fund their own damn projects.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 31, 2017 10:00 AM (Lqy/e)

132 What does it say about Republicans that even now, after 2016, Donald Trump is STILL the only Man who can defeat the Left in 2020?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:01 AM (+iFQS)

133 There is a spiritual battle for this nation. It is ongoing and it is fierce. We only see the physical manifestations of it. There is much more behind the scenes. God is using an unlikely warrior. Pray for Donald Trump. I think this is true and the next three years are going to be tumultuous because of it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2017 10:01 AM (c8EhQ)

134 121 I think the truth of it is pretty simple. He didnt get what he wanted policy wise, those policies are just what he has to claim to support occasionally to keep his "conservative perspective" column. That keeps the communist rags happy because they don't want actual couterpoints, they want someone on the other side agreeing with them. If he came out publicly as a leftist, he'd have to compete against the myriad of other leftist columns and probably end up getting axed. Posted by: Sjg at December 31, 2017 02:57 PM (gDSJf) Makes a lot more sense than the BS he's claiming. I see Juan Williams in this same light.

Posted by: jsg at December 31, 2017 10:01 AM (gSwpy)

135 It says the Republicans are still the Shits they were in 2015.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:01 AM (+iFQS)

136 122 Take this for what it's worth, then I have to go take a nap. God's hand was in the last election. He took an imperfect man and used him to further His purposes and to stay the judgment that was headed towards our land. God has been very gracious to us. Thank God first, thank Trump secondly. He has been the scalpel in the hand of the Great Physician. Well, maybe more a bludgeon than a scalpel, but you catch my drift. There is a spiritual battle for this nation. It is ongoing and it is fierce. We only see the physical manifestations of it. There is much more behind the scenes. God is using an unlikely warrior. Pray for Donald Trump. Posted by: grammie winger - at December 31, 2017 02:57 PM (lwiT4) ------------------------------ I agree. Though, I tend toward "you're getting one last chance to get your house in order" school of thought. And yes, I pray for the President daily.

Posted by: Blake at December 31, 2017 10:02 AM (WEBkv)

137 127 God's hand was in the last election. He took an imperfect man and used him to further His purposes and to stay the judgment that was headed towards our land. God has been very gracious to us. Thank God first, thank Trump secondly. He has been the scalpel in the hand of the Great Physician. Well, maybe more a bludgeon than a scalpel, but you catch my drift. There is a spiritual battle for this nation. It is ongoing and it is fierce. We only see the physical manifestations of it. There is much more behind the scenes. God is using an unlikely warrior. Pray for Donald Trump. Posted by: grammie winger - at December 31, 2017 02:57 PM (lwiT4) I believe this with all my heart, grammie! And I love you and wish you a Happy New Year. Enjoy your nap and I hope you and the Rev get out the disco ball and dance until you can't tonight. I will be sleeping. Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 02:58 PM (14URa) Well put, Grammie! I agree wholeheartedly! Happy New Year to you and Peaches. Peaches--I hope you are staying warm. Winter doesn't last forever in the Midwest, it just feels like it does.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 10:02 AM (TdMsT)

138 Yeah, that's right. You cannot name a single Other who can defeat the Democrats in 2020.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:02 AM (+iFQS)

139 Yes. For globalists, kneecapping America was always the plan. Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 02:59 PM (sdi6R) It was Jugears, in the Oval Office, with a piece of rebar.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2017 10:02 AM (c8EhQ)

140 At the present, right now, these guys are being left behind. The Obamaites, the socialists, the feminists, the Smails right, the GOPe, the entertainment community, all of them are old and tired and part of the past. They're being surpassed and outdated. That's not to say they cannot come back, with yet another lie that 100+ year old leftist cant is somehow fresh and new, or that globalist fat cat politics are somehow innovative. But for now, they're in the rear view mirror. And I think they know it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:02 AM (39g3+)

141
@122

Amen!

Posted by: Randy Westerfeld at December 31, 2017 10:03 AM (/Y+z7)

142 There is a spiritual battle for this nation. It is ongoing and it is fierce. We only see the physical manifestations of it. There is much more behind the scenes. God is using an unlikely warrior. Pray for Donald Trump. Posted by: grammie winger - at December 31, 2017 02:57 PM (lwiT4) +++ I agree wholeheartedly with this and I believe that 2018 is going to be a tough one in this regard.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2017 10:03 AM (tcwn1)

143 They think they're showing "good taste" (why that corrupt evil hag is tasteful, IDK) but instead they're showing how stupid they are and how unattached from reality.


A friend of my mother-in-laws took hormones to make her skin look better and had a stroke.


It's like that.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:03 AM (eO5CB)

144 Remember that scene in The Godfather? It was right after The Don was shot. "If we lose the old man," warned Tom Hagen, "We lose half our strength. All the other families would come after us." If we lose the old man...

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:04 AM (+iFQS)

145 Peaches--I hope you are staying warm. Winter doesn't last forever in the Midwest, it just feels like it does.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 03:02 PM (TdMsT)

I think I jinxed half the country by moving here, Ladyl!  Even the locals are all, WTH?  I shoveled my driveway this morning.  Yes, I'm too old for this shit but it was grand and now I OWN this little neighborhood because nobody else has shoveled theirs and the a-wipes of the HOA haven't even had our little street plowed.  Trust me that they will get a piece of my mind on Tuesday.  :-)

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:04 AM (14URa)

146 Support President Trump. Pray for President Trump. Protect President Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:05 AM (+iFQS)

147 For the New Year of 2018 I am forever grateful that Hillary Rodham Clinton is not and will never be President of the United States.

Posted by: flukeboy at December 31, 2017 10:05 AM (EtEhm)

148 BTW, I love his "drive lefties insane" tweets.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:05 AM (eO5CB)

149 "But for now, they're in the rear view mirror" On the wrong side of history. When they thought that only enlightened thought leaders like themselves could divine the future. Must suck, when it was what you thought made you so special.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 10:05 AM (pV/54)

150 I also agree with grammie's comment.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 10:06 AM (sdi6R)

151 146 Support President Trump. Pray for President Trump. Protect President Trump. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 03:05 PM (+iFQS) Yes! Yes! Yes!

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2017 10:06 AM (tcwn1)

152 Support President Trump.

Pray for President Trump.

Protect President Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 03:05 PM (+iFQS)

I do not get out of bed in the morning until I ask God to keep my President safe and effective.  He's my boy and we need him like we've never needed anyone, ever.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:06 AM (14URa)

153 And never "defend" President Trump. Instead, rub their faces in whatever the president has done to bother them so.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:06 AM (+iFQS)

154 145 Peaches--I hope you are staying warm. Winter doesn't last forever in the Midwest, it just feels like it does. Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 03:02 PM (TdMsT) I think I jinxed half the country by moving here, Ladyl! Even the locals are all, WTH? I shoveled my driveway this morning. Yes, I'm too old for this shit but it was grand and now I OWN this little neighborhood because nobody else has shoveled theirs and the a-wipes of the HOA haven't even had our little street plowed. Trust me that they will get a piece of my mind on Tuesday. :-) Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:04 PM (14URa) The HOA hasn't plowed yet? WTH is the HOA for? Go after 'em with both barrels, Peaches!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 10:07 AM (TdMsT)

155 Puke-inducing, to think of the number of Republican Senators and Representatives who share this asshole's disfigured world view.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 31, 2017 10:07 AM (VDbGO)

156 Never, EVER read the comments. Don't do it. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 31, 2017 02:53 PM (qJtVm) ----------------------- Once in a while I dip my toe in, just to remind myself of how much hatred there is out there for us in flyover country. I cannot see any sort of peaceful reconciliation, simply because those people refuse to let it go.

Posted by: Blake at December 31, 2017 10:08 AM (WEBkv)

157 152 Support President Trump. Pray for President Trump. Protect President Trump. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 03:05 PM (+iFQS) I do not get out of bed in the morning until I ask God to keep my President safe and effective. He's my boy and we need him like we've never needed anyone, ever. Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:06 PM (14URa) That will be my second NY's resolution--to pray DAILY for PDT.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 10:08 AM (TdMsT)

158 The HOA hasn't plowed yet? WTH is the HOA for? Clearly, to control everyone's life and demand they all live up to the ideas of the most obnoxious, controlling person in the neighborhood.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:08 AM (39g3+)

159 What, for a conservative, is there to dislike about this policy record as the Trump administration rounds out its first year in office? Nothing. And you're not happy about it, you're not a conservative. Of course, working for the NYT would be a tipoff on that score anyway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:09 AM (WmqYl)

160 158 The HOA hasn't plowed yet? WTH is the HOA for? Clearly, to control everyone's life and demand they all live up to the ideas of the most obnoxious, controlling person in the neighborhood. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 03:08 PM (39g3+) Winner winner chicken dinner!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 10:09 AM (TdMsT)

161 1. Style. A shallow obsession with apoearance over results. This extends way beyond Trump's unprecedented abrasiveness to the traditional leftist predeliction for valuing noble-sounding promises over actual tracking of real outcomes. .... Ive hated Trump's style for decades, so I should be able to empathize with Stephens and company. But I've also always valued results over style, and Trump has produced excellent results. Bret and his buddies are working my last nerve, to the point I'd like to recommend an ol' fashioned East Texas ass whooping, but that wouldn't accomplish anything.

Posted by: stace at December 31, 2017 10:09 AM (6HFDU)

162 The HOA hasn't plowed yet? WTH is the HOA for? Go after 'em with both barrels, Peaches!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 03:07 PM (TdMsT)

You know I will, mama!  And, yes, please, a little prayer for our amazing President, every day, at least once (twice is better).  :-)  Happy New Year, my friend!

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:09 AM (14URa)

163 Clearly, to control everyone's life and demand they all live up to the ideas of the most obnoxious, controlling person in the neighborhood. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor Hey! The flagpole out front is 2.3 inches too high. Take it down. ...HOA...

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:09 AM (8ikIW)

164 146 "Support President Trump. Pray for President Trump. Protect President Trump." God bless and keep Donald Trump, and God bless and keep the United States of America.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 31, 2017 10:09 AM (VDbGO)

165 Better to double down and say he wishes Hillary were President because of her superior "character".... Posted by: Kasper-X-Hauser at December 31, 2017 02:12 PM (k/llo) You used "Hillary" and "character" in the same sentence. I sense a disturbance in The Force. Wait - I just did the same thing. Omigod.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:10 AM (WmqYl)

166 Bret and his buddies are working my last nerve, to the point I'd like to recommend an ol' fashioned East Texas ass whooping, but that wouldn't accomplish anything. Posted by: stace at December 31, 2017 03:09 PM (6HFDU) ----------------------------- You mean the happiness and joy a good ol' fashioned East Texas whoopin' would bring to millions isn't an accomplishment?

Posted by: Blake at December 31, 2017 10:11 AM (WEBkv)

167 18 It would have been the most corrupt administration ever, imagine the whhole white house having a private server without accountable records.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2017 02:19 PM (aC6Sd)


Hillary had the most corrupt administration ever and she was never elected. Fake dossiers, FISA warrants gotten thru corrupt lies, spying on Americans, lying and lying some more, selling secrets, trading influence for personal cash......I'm sure you guys can add more.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:11 AM (eO5CB)

168 God bless and keep Donald Trump, and God bless and keep the United States of America.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 31, 2017 03:09 PM (VDbGO)

It's pretty much all you gotta say.  Takes 2 seconds.  And I think that He might be listening . . . which totally warms the cockles.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:11 AM (14URa)

169 "... I agree with every one of the policy decisions mentioned above. But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president." That giant sucking sound is Stephens' rectum inhaling himself inside out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2017 10:11 AM (mbhDw)

170 Really weird article: "I got everything I want, but I hate Santa". "I'm rocking Kate Upton, but I dunno ... that Rosa deLaura has a certain something."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:11 AM (WmqYl)

171 Ive hated Trump's style for decades, so I should be able to empathize with Stephens and company. But I've also always valued results over style, and Trump has produced excellent results. Well, exactly. I have made no secret of not being a Trump fan here, but the guy is getting the job done. And in the end, its the walk you walk, not the talk.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:12 AM (39g3+)

172 There's no analysis or any kind of thought here. Just insults, denouncements, unsupported smears, etc. And certainly no reasons given why, even if what he said could be justified, Hillary would be any better. He first lists reasons why people would support Trump, but then omits how a Trump supporter would respond to his denouncements that follow. It's just animal growling noises. There's nothing to respond to. You literally fisk every sentence in your head as you read it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 31, 2017 10:12 AM (/qEW2)

173 I like the Al Czervik comparison, but Happy Gilmore may be the better option. Happy beat them at their own game. Al had to bring in a sub. Happy filled the galleries with deplorable fans. Al played a match pretty much among the members and staff.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 31, 2017 10:12 AM (JyFLk)

174 This new job pays me three times what I expected for minimal work involving my favorite hobbies and free pizza and massages by the Swedish Bikini team ...but I wish I could work in the septic tank again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:13 AM (39g3+)

175 163 Clearly, to control everyone's life and demand they all live up to the ideas of the most obnoxious, controlling person in the neighborhood. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor Hey! The flagpole out front is 2.3 inches too high. Take it down. ...HOA... Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 03:09 PM (8ikIW) To zeroth order, that is the Democrats' dream: to create the world's largest HOA, with the world's most obnoxious block captain in charge.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:13 AM (WmqYl)

176 It's just animal growling noises. There's nothing to respond to. You literally fisk every sentence in your head as you read it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 31, 2017 03:12 PM (/qEW2)

More like a toy poodle or maybe a chihuahua yapping ineffectually but, yeah.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:14 AM (14URa)

177 Hi, I'm Bret, and sometimes, I'm intellectually incoherent. In this case, my feeling of superiority over most if not all of humanity keeps me from supporting a crashing boor who is doing exactly what I want. So I shall continue to assert that a person who has...problems with the law and whose beliefs are the exact opposite of mine would have been the better President. Except immigration. Immigrants outperform Americans; Americans should be deported to solve our economic problems. Especially white ones.

Posted by: Bret "Don't Blame Me, I Voted Hillary" Stephens at December 31, 2017 10:14 AM (1vsiQ)

178 It's just animal growling noises. There's nothing to respond to. You literally fisk every sentence in your head as you read it. Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 31, 2017 03:12 PM (/qEW2) ----------------------------- I'm not sure "mewling quim" counts as "animal growling noises."

Posted by: Blake at December 31, 2017 10:14 AM (WEBkv)

179 God's hand was in the last election.



I'll have to agree.


I knew what Hillary was/is. So many are so blind. Yet, we missed that poison. Only by the grace of God.



Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:15 AM (eO5CB)

180 On an island filled with self-promoting assholes, Trump stood out. And he's a vulgarian, and he used to be a pussy hound. So what. One of the big happy surprises of the 2016 campaign is how Evangelicals looked past that.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 10:15 AM (pV/54)

181 This new car gets 75 miles a gallon, can haul a ton of freight, its styling has women crawling all over me, cost me $75 and never needs maintainance. ...but I wish I had a rusted out '76 Pacer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:15 AM (39g3+)

182 I'm not sure "mewling quim" counts as "animal growling noises."

Posted by: Blake at December 31, 2017 03:14 PM (WEBkv)

You said that so much better, I wish I could delete my comment.  High five, Blake!

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:15 AM (14URa)

183 Trump likes well done steak. #NotPresidential

Posted by: eleven at December 31, 2017 10:15 AM (+lOpA)

184 "I agree with every one of the policy decisions mentioned above. But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president." Ah. So you admit you're a fucking idiot. Good to know.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 31, 2017 10:17 AM (398bZ)

185 183 Trump likes well done steak.

#NotPresidential

Posted by: eleven at December 31, 2017 03:15 PM (+lOpA)

They were all whinging the other day that he hasn't had a single state dinner.  Well, fuck, why should he?  He has a job.  He doesn't need new friends.  They should all go diaf.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:17 AM (14URa)

186 You said that so much better, I wish I could delete my comment. High five, Blake! Every joke needs a straight man to set it up. Without that, its not funny, and the straight man is sometimes even more important than the one with the punch line.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:17 AM (39g3+)

187 149 "But for now, they're in the rear view mirror" On the wrong side of history. When they thought that only enlightened thought leaders like themselves could divine the future. Must suck, when it was what you thought made you so special. Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 03:05 PM (pV/54) Rub their faces in it by reprising Marx and saying they're going onto the ash heap of history. That one's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:17 AM (WmqYl)

188 168 God bless and keep Donald Trump, and God bless and keep the United States of America. Posted by: Sam Adams at December 31, 2017 03:09 PM (VDbGO) It's pretty much all you gotta say. Takes 2 seconds. And I think that He might be listening . . . which totally warms the cockles. Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:11 PM (14URa) One thing I never doubt: God hears all of our intentions. "I know you're able and I know you can Save through the fire with your mighty hand But even if you don't My hope is you alone." --MercyMe

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 10:18 AM (TdMsT)

189 I'm normally a bit of a snob, but I never 'hated' Trump, I just didn't think he could beat Hillary. I'm not dumb enough to harm myself with my snobbery. Once he got the nomination, I was all in because the alternative was too horrible to bear.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:18 AM (eO5CB)

190 I wish in 2018 President Trump would tweet.... MORE!

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:18 AM (+iFQS)

191 We wanted Old Vagina in the white house, so, no peaceful transfer of power, we're gonna play Coup and and Resistance, uh huh. Like ghey marrige, you HAVE TO play too! Manmade Climate Change, the One True Religion we all must worship.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstien at December 31, 2017 10:18 AM (oICZv)

192 But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president. Me too. President of the HOA at Florence Supermax.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:18 AM (WmqYl)

193 By the way, this Sunday morning three hundred thousand Iranians marched for freedom in the streets. That picture of the girl holding up her burkha should be front page in every news source as the new Tianamen Square tank guy. An iconic image. But then, so should have been the image of one lonely blue shoe on the sidewalk.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:18 AM (39g3+)

194 Why the 500 server error so often? Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 31, 2017 02:44 PM (HLrAV) Using an Apple cellphone?

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division [/i] at December 31, 2017 10:19 AM (2FqvZ)

195 Literally who? This is how all the failed thought leaders and so called experts should be met with in the future.

Posted by: Todd Kneeling, Discovered Bigfoot at December 31, 2017 10:19 AM (rDF5j)

196 They were all whinging the other day that he hasn't had a single state dinner. Well, fuck, why should he? He has a job. He doesn't need new friends. They should all go diaf. Posted by: Peaches Have a state dinner catered by Chik Fil A

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:19 AM (8ikIW)

197 One of the big happy surprises of the 2016 campaign is how Evangelicals looked past that.


That worried me since they couldn't get past Mitt's magic underwear. I guess talkin' simple works.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:19 AM (eO5CB)

198 Where are all the Fake Feminists in support of Iranian women and girls??

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:20 AM (+iFQS)

199 President Trump protests in Iran are gaining momentum (sark)

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2017 10:20 AM (aC6Sd)

200 What a dumbfuck. Hillary would have been the end of this country. The way Ex-Prez'nit Cock-Curious into a criminal enterprise wholly owned by the DemonRats would just habe been extended and deepened and we would simply be crusjed underfoot. A hobnailed boot stomping on an upturned face. Forever.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2017 10:20 AM (3Wxcq)

201 Brett, you should cease wasting the time and effort trying to explain the simple truth to these MAGA hat wearing bumpkins!  That their idol is a boorish egoistical cad seems not to matter one iota to them. They are perfectly fine guffawing over his polarizing tweets and worshiping his misguided policy decisions no matter what those of us in the know have to say about the matter! Better to let them enjoy their opiate highs and worship their guns and hope against hope that they will continue to contribute to their own self destruction and extinction by the next election cycle!
Cheers and best wishes in the new year!

Posted by: The Salon Hot 25 at December 31, 2017 10:20 AM (O5Q3r)

202 Fake Feminists, "she persists" right now in Iran. Where are YOU??

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:21 AM (+iFQS)

203 196 Have a state dinner catered by Chik Fil A Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 03:19 PM (8ikIW) Or McDonalds. Trump is a Big Mac fan.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 10:21 AM (sdi6R)

204 189 I'm normally a bit of a snob, but I never 'hated' Trump, I just didn't think he could beat Hillary. I'm not dumb enough to harm myself with my snobbery. Once he got the nomination, I was all in because the alternative was too horrible to bear. Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 03:18 PM (eO5CB) I was all-in for him early on, but for only one reason: I thought he was the only one who had a chance of beating Hillary. The rest of the field struck me as non-hackers who'd get eaten alive by the MSM and the Democrat propaganda machine. They drank their camomile with their pinkies out; Trump is a street brawler, and takes it to his enemies. Which in this case would be OUR enemies.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:21 AM (WmqYl)

205 I haven't even read the article, the topic of the thread, but the words "Douche Bags" jumped out at me, and so I had to relate my ass hurt of the day! I bought a product online today for 47 dollars. By the time that I got the damn thing (a download from the Unity Asset Store) my account was debited to the tune of 61.50! I love building these things, I have never been fucked before on my purchases, but somewhere between here and Copenhagen someone decided that I needed to support their health care, or their defense, or their retirement funds, or some shit, who knows what! and it has gotten me into the mood to rage against Douche Bags that don't just go ahead and tell you how much things are going to cost if you buy shit from people that hate America and Americans! Cocksuckers! If it wasn't so late in 2017, I would keep this hardon going for a full year. The dirty bastards are lucky that I have made a resolution not to carry any grudges over into the new year. Dirty bastard Douche Bags!!

Posted by: goon at December 31, 2017 10:21 AM (EaQ6/)

206 That worried me since they couldn't get past Mitt's magic underwear./i] Honestly I think that bothered people a lot less than his lack of sincerity. Mitt comes across as an animatronic, a fake human carefully crafted after years of study and training. Inauthentic. People came up with reasons to not vote for him but I think the real reason for many was a sort of political uncanny valley.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:22 AM (39g3+)

207 The thing that makes this particularly stupid is that the status quo as of January, 2017 would no longer exist if Hillary had been elected. You could expect an immigration amnesty (with any criticism of that amnesty criminalized as hate speech), elimination of the presumption of innocence in sexual assault cases, banning of coal-fired power, and on and on and on and on. But Stephens would have preferred all that under Hillary, because Trump is uncouth, or something. What an asshole.

Posted by: The Arc Of History at December 31, 2017 10:22 AM (dlwIY)

208 Or McDonalds. Trump is a Big Mac fan. Posted by: rickl He could offer the McRib too. For the vegertarians

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:22 AM (8ikIW)

209 trump is not a process guy, he's a results guy. for a lot of politicians, for a lot of republicans, the goal is the process. for bush (both), mccain, romney and others, being involved in the process and even being at its head, is the reason for politics. trump is different. he's not a politician. he's about getting the work done and achieving a policy end, setting his sights on a goal and accomplishing it.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 31, 2017 10:22 AM (Pg+x7)

210 I remember when DC and the "elites" hated the Clintons' because they were Arkansas trash. And then they hated Bush II because he was a Texas boob. And of course they hated FDR because he was a class traitor. And Reagan was hated because he was an old actor, etc. They don't like anyone really until they have proven just how corrupt and conscienceless they are really. When did the Clintons' stop being white trash? They act just like they both always have. Kissing Obama's ring? What exactly? So of course they hate Trump mainly because he does not give a $(*#.

Posted by: Lester at December 31, 2017 10:22 AM (LfJIn)

211 202 Fake Feminists, "she persists" right now in Iran. Where are YOU?? Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 03:21 PM (+iFQS) There you go. Somebody needs to caption the woman holding the burka with "And yet she persisted".

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 10:23 AM (sdi6R)

212 Actually, Trump explained the "Big Mac" thing by suggesting that he didn't want to alert the world to what he was eating, ie "This meal is for Donald Trump" to avoid poison, spit, and other grosser stuff.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:23 AM (eO5CB)

213 This guy is a total douche.  If he likes everything Trump has done, by what measure can he not like him?  Because of his hair?  Because he has bad taste?  And to prefer the evil Hillary over this man who has done a great job?

Douche.

Posted by: Steve at December 31, 2017 10:23 AM (/ujfD)

214 He could offer the McRib too. For the vegertarians I'm pretty sure it contains some kind of meat. At least a percentage of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 10:23 AM (39g3+)

215 "That worried me since they couldn't get past Mitt's magic underwear." Most normal people get a bad vibe off Mitt. Being Mormon is mostly incidental to this, but just adds to the feeling that he's not one of us because he's passive aggressive, self-serving and full of shit. I hope Mitt goes to the Senate so Trump can fuck with him.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 10:24 AM (pV/54)

216 You said that so much better, I wish I could delete my comment. High five, Blake! Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:15 PM (14URa) --------------------- Blind squirrel, nut, you know the drill. Thank you.

Posted by: Blake at December 31, 2017 10:24 AM (WEBkv)

217 he is just like Bill Kristol & Jonah Goldberg, there are only"Conservative" when it comes to Israel & Defense Budget. Rest of time they are Deep State RINOS

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 31, 2017 10:24 AM (y3aQB)

218 163 Clearly, to control everyone's life and demand they all live up to the ideas of the most obnoxious, controlling person in the neighborhood. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor Hey! The flagpole out front is 2.3 inches too high. Take it down. ...HOA... Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 03:09 PM (8ikIW) I know all too many of them are like that, but the only HOA I Ive ever belonged to has been stellar. When Harvey necessitated the gutting of our 108 unit beach condo building, that small HOA board of highly competent men was all over it from day one. We're way ahead of the other high rise condos on demo cuz our guys got on it with the insurance co. and TWIA right away, and they hired contractors and architects with Katrina experience. The situation is very complex and they've spent countless hours of their own time.

Posted by: stace at December 31, 2017 10:25 AM (6HFDU)

219 With prior candidates, I expected them to be of the Debate Club character resolving issues. After getting kicked in the teeth by the bullies picking on our nerds, it's was time for our candidate and President to say. " you're full of shit" on a regular basis

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:25 AM (8ikIW)

220 Lovely:  Brett Stephens, the WSJ "journalist," has to write his editorial for the New York Times.

What else do you need to know?

Posted by: Steve at December 31, 2017 10:25 AM (/ujfD)

221 They kissed Obama's ass because he was "black" (sorta) and in their noblesse oblige they extend extra courtesies to "blacks" because they're virtuous themselves and shows they can be "nice."

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:26 AM (eO5CB)

222 209 trump is not a process guy, he's a results guy. .....
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 31, 2017 03:22 PM
I agree that he is a results guy but I see process all through what he does but it is deep background usually. As a mega builder, the level of civil engineering really of huge projects, he is constantly setting things up, lining his ducks up, the media and professional government forgets about it. Then BAM!

Posted by: Lester at December 31, 2017 10:26 AM (LfJIn)

223 So simple, really. I don't vote for traitorous criminals, indicted/convicted or not.

Posted by: chuckR at December 31, 2017 10:26 AM (bRvKP)

224 199 President Trump protests in Iran are gaining momentum (sark)

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2017 03:20 PM (aC6Sd)

What worries me is that we had a really astonishing uprising in Tehran a few years back (I basically lived on the twitter feeds) and it was all for naught.  Gonna be praying for them this time.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:26 AM (14URa)

225 But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president. As others have pointed out that invalidates any conservative intellectual or ideological argument he's pretending to make. Keep in mind, the NYT and WaPo have rigid expectations for the "conservatives" they throw 6-7 figure coin at. Even the editorial opinion contributors they occasionally let through the gates. He's giving his masters what they want-propaganda to diffuse Trumps real accomplishments among any centrist to conservative readers who remain at the old gray whore.

Posted by: Keith at December 31, 2017 10:27 AM (USf3s)

226 154 The HOA hasn't plowed yet? WTH is the HOA for? Go after 'em with both barrels, Peaches! Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 03:07 PM (TdMsT) Did some minor maintenance on my garden tractor (added a hydraulic lockout valve), then attacked the snow with the dozer blade. Underdressed, so got cold, but had fun.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 31, 2017 10:27 AM (di1hb)

227 Where are all the Fake Feminists in support of Iranian women and girls?? Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 03:20 PM (+iFQS) They can't be bothered, because their true purpose is to undermine America. They don't give a rat's ass about women per se. Here's the proof: women have a squawk about something. Do the feminist throw a shit fit, or not? You can't answer the question, because you need to know where those women are, and whether their squawk could be used to undermine America. QED. I've done this to liberals before: quoting a news story to them, including the pertinent facts but omitting the crucial details that they need to decide which way to jump. I'd have two essentially equivalent stories, and whichever way they did jump - if I could force them to choose - I'd cite the other one to them. My best exploit: I quoted a news story that had three thugs beating up a college student. My liberal interlocutor was full of sympathy for the three thugs, they probably were deprived, should be treated with leniency, etc. Then I sent him the link. The three thugs were white, the college student black. Gotcha.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:27 AM (WmqYl)

228 I'm pretty sure it contains some kind of meat. At least a percentage of it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor Ok, then Filet O Fish. The vegetable of the sea

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:28 AM (8ikIW)

229 So yesterday I cashed in a surprise late Christmas present I had been paying into for a couple of months: Took my three Kids (21, 18 and 10), their cousins visiting from the Old Country, (South Africa - 13 and 17), several boy and girlfriends of my Kids and even, shockingly, my Evil Ex- and her Mom, to the indoor skydiving place in Tukwila Washington. It was universally acclaimed as "The Best Day In The Whole History Of Days" and even the Ex- was pleased. Next stop: jumping out of an actual airplane. Oh fuck me!

Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2017 10:28 AM (3Wxcq)

230 Most normal people get a bad vibe off Mitt. Being Mormon is mostly incidental to this, but just adds to the feeling that he's not one of us because he's passive aggressive, self-serving and full of shit.


Fine, but the result was 4 more years of Obama who we knew was filled with packed shit.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:28 AM (eO5CB)

231 193 By the way, this Sunday morning three hundred thousand Iranians marched for freedom in the streets. That picture of the girl holding up her burkha should be front page in every news source as the new Tianamen Square tank guy. An iconic image. But then, so should have been the image of one lonely blue shoe on the sidewalk. ======== I heard that, twice over. But let's talk about The Donald drinking a 12-pack of Diet Coke every day and a white truck.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 31, 2017 10:29 AM (W+kMI)

232 Next stop: jumping out of an actual airplane.

Oh fuck me!

Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2017 03:28 PM (3Wxcq)

First I've ever heard of "indoor skydiving."  But the real deal is quite a rush.  Do a tandem dive.  You will love it.  Pay for the video.  :-)


Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:30 AM (14URa)

233 Underdressed, so got cold, but had fun. Posted by: Iron Mike Golf I first read that as "undressed" Kinky, and shrively

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:30 AM (8ikIW)

234 212 Actually, Trump explained the "Big Mac" thing by suggesting that he didn't want to alert the world to what he was eating, ie "This meal is for Donald Trump" to avoid poison, spit, and other grosser stuff. Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 03:23 PM (eO5CB) Pro tip: approach McDonald's with a big order, subtly give them to understand it's for Trump, then donate it to the DNC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:30 AM (WmqYl)

235 One of the big happy surprises of the 2016 campaign is how Evangelicals looked past that. Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 03:15 PM (pV/54) Evangelicals aren't all the reactionary Puritan hicks the MFM makes them out to be. They took a look at the persecution of Christians and conservatives by the Obama administration and the guaranteed continuance of such by Hillary for at least another four years.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:30 AM (NWiLs)

236 But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president.

Posted by: Former Cobs of AOSHQ at December 31, 2017 10:30 AM (M7eqI)

237 What worries me is that we had a really astonishing uprising in Tehran a few years back (I basically lived on the twitter feeds) and it was all for naught. Gonna be praying for them this time.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:26 PM (14URa)



What gives me greater hope this time is the troops refusing to fire on the protestors.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 31, 2017 10:31 AM (FTXAT)

238 224 What worries me is that we had a really astonishing uprising in Tehran a few years back (I basically lived on the twitter feeds) and it was all for naught. Gonna be praying for them this time. Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:26 PM (14URa) The difference is that Obama betrayed them. It looks to me like the 2009 protesters went underground to wait him out. Once they realized that Trump was not another Obama, they felt able to poke their heads up again.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 10:31 AM (sdi6R)

239 The explanation is simple: they are not conservatives. Any reasonably minded true conservative would think "Ok, Trump is vulgar, I hate half the shit he tweets, but damn if he hasn't gotten some YUGE conservative victories for us since Reagan, so instead of whining for the perfect conservative President that simply doesn't exist, I'm gonna support the one we actually got and who is giving us the results we need."

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 31, 2017 10:31 AM (+dsLj)

240 Brett probably wishes he had a gerbil up his ass too.

Posted by: freaked at December 31, 2017 10:31 AM (UdKB7)

241 But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president.

----


*sigh*

Posted by: Allahpundit and the pajama-boys at HotAir at December 31, 2017 10:31 AM (M7eqI)

242 "What's even stranger is that not a single one of those things would have come with Clinton. So there must be something Clinton would have brought to the party that he cares more about than the some total of everything he lists as Trump accomplishments. What in the world could it be? He doesn't say." Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 31, 2017 02:14 PM (Po6Jc) An introduction to the Podesta brothers and Comet Pizza? "Why I'm still a NeverTrumper" heh. How many people are still wearing their pussy hats? Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2017 02:14 PM (bJ0w+) Besides Brett Stephens?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 31, 2017 10:32 AM (9BLnV)

243 First I've ever heard of "indoor skydiving." But the real deal is quite a rush. Do a tandem dive. You will love it. Pay for the video. :-) Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:30 PM (14URa) The instructor would end up wearing the contents of my entire excretory system.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:32 AM (NWiLs)

244 Next stop: jumping out of an actual airplane. Posted by: Sharkman at December 31, 2017 03:28 PM (3Wxcq) I did it - once - in grad school. It cost me a week's pay, but it was worth it, and fun. Not that I'd do it again, but I crossed it off the list.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:32 AM (WmqYl)

245 They love their class more than they love their country.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 31, 2017 10:32 AM (i6b6/)

246 Bret Michaels > Bret Stephens

Posted by: Hands at December 31, 2017 10:32 AM (EzdLW)

247 226 154 The HOA hasn't plowed yet? WTH is the HOA for? Go after 'em with both barrels, Peaches! Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 03:07 PM (TdMsT) Did some minor maintenance on my garden tractor (added a hydraulic lockout valve), then attacked the snow with the dozer blade. Underdressed, so got cold, but had fun. Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 31, 2017 03:27 PM (di1hb) I would love to have a plow! But no place to store it on my present property.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 10:32 AM (TdMsT)

248 for a lot of politicians, for a lot of republicans, the goal is the process. Like the "peace process" in the middle east. Or the cheese process.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2017 10:33 AM (IqV8l)

249 Saw that excerpt yesterday, today a friend sent me an even worse excerpt. Just delusional - Trump's dictatorial personal style, unseemly demands from staff and GOP congresscritters, etc. Utterly disconnected from reality, with of course no examples provided. Gotta say this is measurably worse than the BDS of yore. It's more outlandish, it's uglier, more hateful, even more detached from reality and facts. I never look to such as Stephens for anything I haven't long figured out myself, or understand even better than he does, but this whole tableau of dark craziness is shocking. "There's insanity in my earpiece!", indeed.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 10:33 AM (Dhcvl)

250 Not that I'd do it again, but I crossed it off the list.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 31, 2017 03:32 PM (WmqYl)

Yeah, it's a rush like no other.  And you never have to do it again, lol!

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:33 AM (14URa)

251 The Paolo, he loves to plow!

Posted by: Paolo at December 31, 2017 10:33 AM (NWiLs)

252 Any reasonably minded true conservative would think "Ok, Trump is vulgar, I hate half the shit he tweets I view his tweets as being in the nature of jabs, designed to straighten up the opponent, and make him leery of wading in too aggressively.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:33 AM (WmqYl)

253 So I clicked the link and skimmed his article. So he's bothered by Trump's imperfect character, but not Hillary's? Thus genius had a choice between a conservative with imperfect character, and a liberal with imperfect character and a screechy horrible voice. He picked the liberal with imperfect character and a screechy horrible voice. I had concerns about Trump. As the campaign went on I was more and more impressed with him. After seeing what he's accomplished in just one year, I am thrilled with him. I don't care how many dopey tweets he sends, as long as he delivers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2017 10:34 AM (+lVUW)

254 And want to preserve your own republican institutions? Then pay attention to the character of your leaders, the culture of governance and the political health of the public. Leaving aside Hillary for the moment, which R would he rather have had ¡Jeb!? Rubio? Romney? McCain? People who admitted beforehand that they would continue to sell out, avoid the public's wishes and continue on the course of destruction set by the Democrats? Are they "leaders with character"? Would they even talk about draining the swamp or slashing the budget? Is that a good "culture of governance"? Is ignoring the wishes of the citizenry "Paying attention to political health of the public"? He wants us to think that Trump lacks these things, but what alternatives does he expect us to think of instead?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 31, 2017 10:34 AM (/qEW2)

255 Once again Mr. O'Spades, the use of terms such as "douche bag", "cum dumpster", "bag of dick eater", "suckers of cock" etc. as descriptive terms in relation to those of us who have conflicting ideas on conservatism is frowned upon in the extremis! We request that you and your demented followers please refrain from the use of these terms in the future or face the consequences!
Cheers and Happy Holidays!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at December 31, 2017 10:34 AM (O5Q3r)

256 I don't have a problem with his tweets and I'm a snob. They serve a purpose and amuse the base.

I didn't hire him to be dean of a finishing school.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:34 AM (eO5CB)

257 189 I'm normally a bit of a snob, but I never 'hated' Trump, I just didn't think he could beat Hillary. I'm not dumb enough to harm myself with my snobbery. Once he got the nomination, I was all in because the alternative was too horrible to bear. ==== Good rationale. I was a Cruz man in the primary, but thanks to Kasich the Judas he never got close. Trump won the nomination fair and square, and I had to respect that. Plus, voting for him seemed not only proper, but FUN! I mean, he pissed off all the right people and he's still doing it.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 31, 2017 10:34 AM (W+kMI)

258 251 The Paolo, he loves to plow!

Posted by: Paolo at December 31, 2017 03:33 PM (NWiLs)

The Paolo is welcome in my driveway, anytime!  :-)

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:34 AM (14URa)

259 252 Any reasonably minded true conservative would think "Ok, Trump is vulgar, I hate half the shit he tweets I view his tweets as being in the nature of jabs, designed to straighten up the opponent, and make him leery of wading in too aggressively. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 31, 2017 03:33 PM (WmqYl) That's part of it. I think the other part is simultaneously circumventing and baiting his enemies, such as the MFM. And they fall for it every single time. It's why I get really tired of people saying "I just wish he'd stop Tweeting, it distracts from the issues, and gives the media things to attack him with."

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:36 AM (NWiLs)

260 But no, Trump's not often vulgar since becoming prez, and half his tweets are not problematic in the least. Not even close on either count. But this, too, is a good reminder of the mass delusion we are seeing 24/7. As I point out frequently, most "conservatives" operate within the same fantasy framework of lies and distortions and false premises as the wackiest, dumbest lib. We see it here everyday, and much more so elsewhere.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 10:36 AM (Dhcvl)

261 I had concerns about Trump. As the campaign went on I was more and more impressed with him. After seeing what he's accomplished in just one year, I am thrilled with him. I don't care how many dopey tweets he sends, as long as he delivers. Posted by: nerdygirl I had my doubts and living in Illinois I knew my vote was for naught, but the last two weeks before the election he really impressed me. He was everywhere.

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:36 AM (8ikIW)

262 Any man who voted for Hillary , without a gun pointed at their head, has got to be gay. That's all there is to it. spends a night in her box

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 31, 2017 10:36 AM (WbIyz)

263 Only EXPERTS

Posted by: Hands at December 31, 2017 10:37 AM (EzdLW)

264 I love the smug little man-bun wearing pussies driving around in their Priuses with their precious "RESIST" stickers pasted on the back. I was driving behind one this morning. Do you pajama boys know who didn't have the luxury of broadcasting their "resistance" to the regime with silly store-bought signs? That would be people who actually risked their lives and the lives of their families to oppose bloodthirsty vindictive regimes in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, occupied France, Communist China, Cuba and Venezuela. That was "resistance" with real consequences, pussy-boy. Those people didn't have the living in a society where they could virtue-signal to their skinny-jeans hipster buddies without any cost.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2017 10:37 AM (c8EhQ)

265 finger slipped, hit post too soon. disregard

Posted by: Hands at December 31, 2017 10:38 AM (EzdLW)

266 "I view his tweets as being in the nature of jabs, designed to straighten up the opponent, and make him leery of wading in too aggressively." ********************* I'm sort of ambivalent, in one regard I regard these tweets as being cleverly crafted to drive his enemies bugfuck insane, but in another sense it's beneath him and the office of the Presidency. Reminds me of Patton in a way. A guy who says fuck all to carrying his title with prestige and just wants to get shit done.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 31, 2017 10:38 AM (+dsLj)

267 I bought the book, "Winning Bigly" by Scott Adams, the Dilbert cartoonist. it's not a cartoon book, it's Adams' explanation for Trump's success in the campaign and his first year in office. I've only read the first several pages, but Adams attributes Trump's success to his being a business negotiator.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2017 10:38 AM (+lVUW)

268 Brett should just spit out what is making him cry. With Hillary they could write all day long to us with us applauding their wise words How we might one day be free from having to beg for govt not to limit our speech, or take our guns, or screw in a light bulb of our choice, or irs might be looked into, or abortion might have limitations one day. Or perhaps He knows they have been found out, the mask is off, He would Prefer a govt that demands all from us while stealing from everyone , dividing us into hate and feafrul groups all at the mercy of them, to be pulled out, wrung out, in their ficklness and who is useful to them for that day for a cudgel against others. I imagine he didn't mind hillarys servers, the pay to play schemes, nor the selling of of uranium to russians, guns to terrorists in the east or cartels to the south of us while trying to strip Us of the same. I imagine he didn't care at all of ambassadors being murdering, and video guys being arrested to cover for Her sleazy ideas and graft. The calls from govt that we should Shut up whenever a terrorist attack occurred, blaming our speech for Their terror. Why would Brett have thought he would be free to express His personal lies if Hillary actually had won? He would never have been able to lick her boots clean enough to please her.

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2017 10:38 AM (t2Uf9)

269 Any reasonably minded true conservative would think "Ok, Trump is vulgar, I hate half the shit he tweets

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+1000

Posted by: Mitt Romneycare at December 31, 2017 10:38 AM (M7eqI)

270 Insomniac, I don't get tired of anyone saying anything they want. I just draw the appropriate conclusions from what they say. About their grasp of a topic, or their judgment.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 10:38 AM (Dhcvl)

271 This guy is a total douche. If he likes everything Trump has done, by what measure can he not like him? Because of his hair? Because he has bad taste? And to prefer the evil Hillary over this man who has done a great job?

Douche.

Posted by: Steve at December 31, 2017 03:23 PM (/ujfD)


Cause Trump doesn't know the double secret handshake.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 31, 2017 10:39 AM (FTXAT)

272 I have news for them, the Clintons are not up to their 'class' standards either. Why they deigned to offer them membership is baffleing. I assume it's because they've proven themselves open to selling influence. 

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:39 AM (eO5CB)

273 That would be people who actually risked their lives and the lives of their families to oppose bloodthirsty vindictive regimes in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, occupied France, Communist China, Cuba and Venezuela. That was "resistance" with real consequences, pussy-boy. Those people didn't have the living in a society where they could virtue-signal to their skinny-jeans hipster buddies without any cost. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2017 03:37 PM (c8EhQ) Just so. It's why it's so silly for these people to screech that Trump is literally Hitler, a dictator, blah blah blah. If any of that was true, they wouldn't be saying any of that bullshit and, if they did, they'd be getting a knock on the door in the middle of the night then never be seen or heard from again.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:39 AM (NWiLs)

274 And speaking of douchebags, HuffPo writer addresses the situation in Iran: @AlexMohajer Thank you, @HillaryClinton. Interesting note: there is little difference between the oppressive regime they are protesting and the one that currently occupies the White House. In fact, decades ago Iranian women even had a @WomensMarch. A cautionary tale:

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 31, 2017 10:39 AM (+y/Ru)

275 15,
"I signed all the security agreements she did, I just took them seriously. As she did not, she deserves what is beneath her. So, put Comey (and all her other FBI lovers) in jail in her place."


I've heard it said, from some time back, that she didn't sign any and was waved in by Obama. I don't know if that is so but it fits with the Clintons SOP.

Posted by: geoffb at December 31, 2017 10:39 AM (zOpu5)

276 Trump could tweet a selfie of his ass and I wouldn't care. As long as he exists he infuriates liberals and that's good enough for me. Anything else he accomplishes is gravy.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2017 10:40 AM (Sfs6o)

277 if i were that guys wife i'd never make him another cookie, because Hillary's girls don't do that shit.

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2017 10:41 AM (t2Uf9)

278 270 Insomniac, I don't get tired of anyone saying anything they want. I just draw the appropriate conclusions from what they say. About their grasp of a topic, or their judgment. Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 03:38 PM (Dhcvl) Which I certainly don't have a problem with. I'm just referring to the standard talking point that I hear from a lot of Republican types who trot that general statement out over and over.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:41 AM (NWiLs)

279 I don't care how many dopey tweets he sends, as long as he delivers. Posted by: nerdygirl ************************ This is in my view the true conservative stance. The I have zero fucks to give if this guy doesn't win boy scout awards, i just want him getting shit done. Conservatism is results oriented, but these fakers would rather have a RINO like Bush acting like a perfect statesman and losing with dignity, because conservatism is all about losing in quiet dignity and grace.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 31, 2017 10:41 AM (+dsLj)

280 Trump made my voice all nasally.

Posted by: Erick Ericksson - who is somehow still on the radio at December 31, 2017 10:41 AM (M7eqI)

281 Clinton is a "flawed personality"? WTF? How about a sociopathic criminal - real criminal, as in stacks of serious felonies committed while in positions of public trust - as well as dumb as your average Beltway mediocrity. She's unfit by intellect or personality to be a minor city bureaucrat, FFS. Obviously. As was her boss.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 10:42 AM (Dhcvl)

282 my only desire for trump is to limit the amt of force /law and action the Feds have over the citizens. That's my real desire and He looks the most proming in doing just that.

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2017 10:42 AM (t2Uf9)

283 258 251 The Paolo, he loves to plow! Posted by: Paolo at December 31, 2017 03:33 PM (NWiLs) The Paolo is welcome in my driveway, anytime! :-) Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:34 PM (14URa) I don't think it's your driveway he's interested in...

Posted by: Ladyl at December 31, 2017 10:43 AM (TdMsT)

284 How about a sociopathic criminal - real criminal, as in stacks of serious felonies committed while in positions of public trust - as well as dumb as your average Beltway mediocrity. She's unfit by intellect or personality to be a minor city bureaucrat, FFS. Obviously. As was her boss. Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 03:42 PM (Dhcvl) I dunno about that. Have you ever watched video from some of these smaller town school board or city council meetings? It's practically a requirement.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:43 AM (NWiLs)

285 264 I love the smug little man-bun wearing pussies driving around in their Priuses with their precious "RESIST" stickers pasted on the back. I was driving behind one this morning. Do you pajama boys know who didn't have the luxury of broadcasting their "resistance" to the regime with silly store-bought signs? That would be people who actually risked their lives and the lives of their families to oppose bloodthirsty vindictive regimes in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, occupied France, Communist China, Cuba and Venezuela. That was "resistance" with real consequences, pussy-boy. Those people didn't have the living in a society where they could virtue-signal to their skinny-jeans hipster buddies without any cost. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2017 03:37 PM (c8EhQ) And that is precisely why I, an avid Trump supporter, didn't have any yard signs, bumper stickers, or MAGA caps. I was afraid of putting a target on my back.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 10:43 AM (sdi6R)

286 Trump could tweet a selfie of his ass and I wouldn't care. As long as he exists he infuriates liberals and that's good enough for me. Anything else he accomplishes is gravy.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2017 03:40 PM (Sfs6o)



This.



We tried behaving and following their rules. It didn't work. I am fine with Trump breaking every damn rule they try and impose on him.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 31, 2017 10:44 AM (FTXAT)

287 in another sense it's beneath him and the office of the Presidency.

Reminds me of Patton in a way. A guy who says fuck all to carrying his title with prestige and just wants to get shit done.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 31, 2017 03:38 PM (+dsLj)


Why?  How?  Was Obama not beneath the office?  I'm sorry but I was Trump from the second he stepped off that escalator and declared and I haven't been wrong one day since.  He can say whatever he wants, I am eternally grateful to him and I trust his game.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:44 AM (14URa)

288 if this idiot savant wants to advertise his absolute mental fuckery, so be it. just add him to the list of twatwaffles.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2017 10:44 AM (KP5rU)

289 And that is precisely why I, an avid Trump supporter, didn't have any yard signs, bumper stickers, or MAGA caps. I was afraid of putting a target on my back. Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 03:43 PM (sdi6R) Electrify your yard sign. Hilarity will ensue.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:44 AM (NWiLs)

290 I'm sort of ambivalent, in one regard I regard these tweets as being cleverly crafted to drive his enemies bugfuck insane, but in another sense it's beneath him and the office of the Presidency. Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 31, 2017 03:38 PM (+dsLj) It USED to be below the office of the Presidency. Bear in mind Clinton fielded questions about his underwear, got a BJ in the White House, lied like a rug about it, shook down foreign governments and corporations for his personal benefit, etc. In light of those events, the odd off color tweet is baby shit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:44 AM (WmqYl)

291 Why, because he still wants to cash that NYT paycheck. He's an organ grinder's monkey, a whore who will dance for cash.

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2017 10:44 AM (yM/Yl)

292 What worries me is that we had a really astonishing uprising in Tehran a few years back (I basically lived on the twitter feeds) and it was all for naught. Gonna be praying for them this time.
Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:26 PM

This one is somehow different. Instead of centralized protest with "elites" in Tehran and universities, this one is in the boonie city/towns and diffuse. That makes it hard to put down. Also I think the 2009 group was more tepid, afraid and wanted "reform" and this one the rioter/protesters want the Islamic "terror elite" dead. I think it is a classic preference cascade like in Romania. When a preference cascade is squashed it comes back much worse next time. There are also some parallels with our own 2016 election and results from the hinterlands. The citizenry are tired of being the terror financiers and cannon fodder and impoverished to do it. They weren't asked if this is what they want. It obviously isn't.

Posted by: Lester at December 31, 2017 10:44 AM (LfJIn)

293 245 "They love their class more than they love their country. " This!

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 31, 2017 10:44 AM (VDbGO)

294 And that is precisely why I, an avid Trump supporter, didn't have any yard signs, bumper stickers, or MAGA caps. ****** Wuss! I bravely put a YUGE Trump sign in my bathroom, and even one on the fridge in the kitchen. TOP THAT

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 31, 2017 10:45 AM (+dsLj)

295 She's unfit by intellect or personality to be a minor city bureaucrat, FFS. Obviously. As was her boss.

It's like putting Sheila Jackson Lee in charge of United Airlines reservations.

Come to think of it, she already is. 

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2017 10:45 AM (LAe3v)

296 Insomniac I understand, I was just trying to emphasize a point. Many "conservatives" operate at a level of misinformation, meme, and media-created reality not much different than the libs they screech about. As long as they vote the right way, guess it's immaterial. But they are a big reason we got to where we are before this 1) turn-around, or 2) speed-bump, occurred.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 10:45 AM (Dhcvl)

297 My guess is in a Hillary administration she'd do virtually nothing in terms of actual policy, mostly a hermit avoiding the press and making few appearances. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 31, 2017 02:20 PM (39g3+) ======== She might not do that much personally, but I think her administration would hum along on autopilot as if it were Barack's third term, continuing to eat away at everything.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 31, 2017 10:46 AM (/qEW2)

298 FUCK THIS GUY and the rest of his crew. Kick them out. Never listen to them again. They are John McCain the fucking cancer faced fuckup who lost with honor.

Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek at December 31, 2017 10:46 AM (jxw6R)

299 It's not policy that is being fought over, nor is it "taste" exactly. It's cultural and stems in the beginning from where Trump comes from, Queens. And that he bloodied the refined noses of the upper Manhattan crowd by beating them at their own game in their own playing field.

Doing it again in national politics is just way too much to bear. Better socialist enslavement of the masses than to be beaten by one such as him.

Posted by: geoffb at December 31, 2017 10:46 AM (zOpu5)

300 I just want to know why anyone with a higher than room temperature IQ cares what the Pussy Fart in an EF-5 Tornado writes/Tweets??

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 31, 2017 10:46 AM (y3aQB)

301 I was afraid of putting a target on my back.
Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 03:43 PM (sdi6R)

I was in CA then and to put a sticker on my car would have meant I'd have to buy a new car, within days.  Here, man, it's so cool, everyone flies the flag (the US flag) and despite the cold and the snow and all that, it's wonderful!

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:46 AM (14URa)

302 And that is precisely why I, an avid Trump supporter, didn't have any yard signs, bumper stickers, or MAGA caps. I was afraid of putting a target on my back. Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 03:43 PM (sdi6R) A liberal acquaintance was holding forth on "right wing violence." I offered to put a Hillary or Bernie sticker on my car - his choice - if he'd put a Trump one on his. Needless to say, he thought the better of that one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:46 AM (WmqYl)

303 Trump's tweets are rapier thrusts. One of their purposes is to expose the fops nominally on our side. Whine away, you just go on my list of fools.

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2017 10:47 AM (yM/Yl)

304 @AlexMohajer
Thank you, @HillaryClinton. Interesting note: there is little difference between the oppressive regime they are protesting and the one that currently occupies the White House. In fact, decades ago Iranian women even had a @WomensMarch. A cautionary tale:

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 31, 2017 03:39 PM (+y/Ru)


Spoken like someone who has never known even one moment of actual oppression or personal danger.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 31, 2017 10:47 AM (FTXAT)

305 in another sense it's beneath him and the office of the Presidency.

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+1000

Posted by: Senator-For-Life John McCain- Aristocrat, Elite, Better Than You at December 31, 2017 10:47 AM (M7eqI)

306 I was in CA then and to put a sticker on my car would have meant I'd have to buy a new car, within days. Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:46 PM (14URa) I always thought how fun it would be to put a Trump sticker over a Hillary/ Bernie/ Coexist sticker to watch the blue-on-blue (Red-on-Red?) action.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:48 AM (WmqYl)

307 Posted by: Lester at December 31, 2017 03:44 PM (LfJIn)

Excellent info, Lester, and thank you.  They're definitely on the prayer list.  And I pray to God, not some pedophile.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:48 AM (14URa)

308 Ladyl at December 31, 2017 03:43 PM I couldn't have touched that one

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2017 10:48 AM (aC6Sd)

309 Fuck the "office."

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:48 AM (+iFQS)

310 Hillary and co came up the idea to write a fake dossier to get a fisa warrant to spy on an American and a political opponent and then attempted to "investigate" that fake dossier material to impeach a duely electly president while at the same time illegally selling influence and exposing American secrets. She also probably got people murdered in the process of trying to secure Libya oil interests and traded guns among millions of other criminal acts.


Betting they'd done the same sort of think in the past.


And he wants that instead because Trump likes gilded french provencial furniture and has a crummy barber?


Take Satan over the kid with the off-brand sneakers? Right Stevens?

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:49 AM (eO5CB)

311 Why? How? Was Obama not beneath the office? ************************************ Of course, but I don't think it's wrong to want a President to behave more Presidential, like Reagan did. But that's a minor complaint and one that I don't think fits the times now. I much prefer Trump to be a brawler.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 31, 2017 10:49 AM (+dsLj)

312 Known Unknowns. The DOJ OIG report should be out soon. At a minimum it will show that many standard procedures were violated to give Hillary and her minions a pass on multiple felonies. It should also show that the DOJ / FBI principals involved in this were also involved in using the Dossier as a cover to get a FISA warrant. Except for a few voices at FOX, no one at MSM has connected the FISA warrant dots on the page to show the cat. The National Enquirer just did and put it on its covers. I'd say that at least 20 million Americans will see this cover as they check out at supermarkets. When this hits people like Brett Stephens will be washed away as totally irrelevant. Developing ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 10:49 AM (pV/54)

313 304 @AlexMohajer Thank you, @HillaryClinton. Interesting note: there is little difference between the oppressive regime they are protesting and the one that currently occupies the White House. In fact, decades ago Iranian women even had a @WomensMarch. A cautionary tale: Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 31, 2017 03:39 PM (+y/Ru) Spoken like someone who has never known even one moment of actual oppression or personal danger. Posted by: redbanzai at December 31, 2017 03:47 PM (FTXAT) Or known much about anything. Just having the slightest bit of fact and intellectual honesty would inform you that there is fuck-all similarity between the two.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:49 AM (NWiLs)

314 so i guess Brett didn't mind that much doj, irs and other govt agencies used as political tools against private citizens .

Posted by: willow at December 31, 2017 10:49 AM (t2Uf9)

315 Christ Almighty, what is this, a royal realm? Fuck the office.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:50 AM (+iFQS)

316 That tweet posted by Anonosaurus and reposted by redbanzai is what I'm talking about - these people (and there are a lot of them) are completely off in cloud-cuckoo land. No difference between the Islamic govt. of Iran and the Trump administration. If confronted and questioned on such outlandish slanders and nonsense, such people usually are unable even to articulate a sentence-worth of substantiation. Naturally they are pristinely ignorant of Iran. I saw this under Bush, but this time it seems much, much more widespread, and if possible, even more outlandish.

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 10:51 AM (Dhcvl)

317 ' in another sense it's beneath him and the office of the Presidency. ' Bill Clinton set the standard for what's beneath the President.

Posted by: freaked at December 31, 2017 10:51 AM (UdKB7)

318 Of course, but I don't think it's wrong to want a President to behave more Presidential, like Reagan did. But that's a minor complaint and one that I don't think fits the times now. I much prefer Trump to be a brawler. Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at December 31, 2017 03:49 PM (+dsLj) Me too, but different times, different mores. Being gentlemanly in this environment is a losing proposition. Think Kathy Griffin holding the severed head; that's just how coarse public discourse has become.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:51 AM (WmqYl)

319 it's beneath him and the office

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heh. That's what she said.


wut?

Posted by: Ex-Pres Clenis at December 31, 2017 10:52 AM (M7eqI)

320 What's even stranger is that not a single one of those things would have come with Clinton. So there must be something Clinton would have brought to the party that he cares more about than the some total of everything he lists as Trump accomplishments. What in the world could it be? He doesn't say." Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 31, 2017 02:14 PM (Po6Jc) Decorum. Brett's like a lot of Republicans ... at the end of the day, he just wants to be told to Go Fuck Himself in an even, moderate tone. I've said it before - there's a breed of Republican that, if given the order from recognized authority to report to the gas chambers, will begin formly orderly lines. Brett's one of those.

Posted by: ScoggDog at December 31, 2017 10:52 AM (fiGNd)

321 Bill Clinton set the standard for what's beneath the President. Posted by: freaked at December 31, 2017 03:51 PM (UdKB7) Don't you mean "who" is beneath the President?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2017 10:52 AM (c8EhQ)

322 this shitheel is probably trying out for a gig at yahoo news. the weekly world news of the intertubes.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2017 10:52 AM (KP5rU)

323 Brett Stephens: I mean this with the utmost sincerity: You, all Libtards and RINOs and NeverTrumpsters but you especially, need to be ass fucked with a pineapple wrapped in barbed wire sideways. Donald J. Trump is our president, thank the Good LORD for the next three years and God willing, for the next 7. Hillary Clinton is, at best, a traitor, and at worst a very good traitor. So bend over.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 31, 2017 10:53 AM (QMwOT)

324 Oh, yeah and I heard something about the "advice" that Huma was emailing Hillary. Bizarrely obvious things for Hillary to say back to heads of state and other ambassadors.

Like: Tell the Saudis that you agree with them and hope to work with them in the future for the benefit of both our countries.




I know Hillary's dumb. She failed the bar. But that dumb? Wow. My dog knows that much.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:53 AM (eO5CB)

325 Part of the reason they seem to hate Trump is he isn't married to a Nellie Ohr double which seems to be the norm in the Harvard/Yale/DC elite set and Trump got to marry whoever the heck he wanted because he didn't need her dad's money. It makes them crazy.

Posted by: Lester at December 31, 2017 10:54 AM (LfJIn)

326 Current cover of The National Enquirer: The FBI's Plot To Impeach Donald Trump Proof that rogue agents are out to destroy the Presidency! This will be seen by over 20 million Americans (50 million?) as they check out at supermarkets. It'll make a far bigger impression that Brett Stephens musings that Trump is an effective vulgarian.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 31, 2017 10:54 AM (pV/54)

327 At least it gives a good reason never to trust Bret Stephens again. Probably the best thing about the Trump Presidency is the number of "Conservatives" outing themselves as the Democrats and or statists they've been suspected to be.

Posted by: SpiffTheSpaceman -GNAMM at December 31, 2017 10:54 AM (U49qd)

328 My guess is in a Hillary administration she'd do virtually nothing in terms of actual policy, mostly a hermit avoiding the press and making few appearances. - The graft must flow.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 31, 2017 10:55 AM (+y/Ru)

329 I know Hillary's dumb. She failed the bar. But that dumb? Wow. My dog knows that much. Posted by: dagny Dagny's dog for President!

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:55 AM (8ikIW)

330 Decorum!

Posted by: Senator Menendez, Senator Franken and Rep John Conyers at December 31, 2017 10:55 AM (M7eqI)

331 Me too, but different times, different mores. Being gentlemanly in this environment is a losing proposition. Think Kathy Griffin holding the severed head; that's just how coarse public discourse has become. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 31, 2017 03:51 PM (WmqYl) Adhering unilaterally to Marquess of Queensberry rules in the middle of a prison yard knife fight gets you nowhere but dead.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:55 AM (NWiLs)

332 Current cover of The National Enquirer: The FBI's Plot To Impeach Donald Trump Proof that rogue agents are out to destroy the Presidency! Ha! Good.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 31, 2017 10:55 AM (+iFQS)

333 Yeah, I'm over playing chess with a 10 piece handicap. Time to go ahead and recognize the left has been barfighting since the early 1900s.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:56 AM (eO5CB)

334 Feminists had misgivings about voting for Bill Clinton. Not because he was a rapist. Because having the opposing party in the White House was enough of a boogeyman to drive donations.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 31, 2017 10:56 AM (rnAwa)

335 Adhering unilaterally to Marquess of Queensberry rules in the middle of a prison yard knife fight gets you nowhere but dead.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 03:55 PM (NWiLs)

I refer you to the Brit Redcoats in the American Revolution.  Well over 200 years later, they haven't learned shit.

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 10:57 AM (14URa)

336 Remember the FIRST time millions of e-mails under subpoena went missing from the White House data banks? That would be under the CLINTON administration, Slick Willy presiding. Bubba's surrogates claimed there was a "glitch" that was responsible. Hillary's presidency would have been Obama's third term, and an extension of husband Bill's corrupt, openly treasonous practices. There is NOTHING the Clintons wouldn't sell for their own personal financial benefit. That's how Communist China wound up with all of America's nuclear secrets, missile and satellite technology. That's why the People's Liberation Army was the Clinton Crime Family's biggest benefactor.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 31, 2017 10:57 AM (VDbGO)

337 >>>>"I signed all the security agreements she did, I just took them
seriously. As she did not, she deserves what is beneath her. So, put
Comey (and all her other FBI lovers) in jail in her place."


I've heard it said, from some time back, that she didn't sign any and was waved in by Obama. I don't know if that is so but it fits with the Clintons SOP.
.
.
.Correct, State can't (or won't) find a copy of the Security Briefing or the Security Termination letter actually signed by hillary.   According to them it does not exist and she most likely never signed anything. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 31, 2017 10:57 AM (+Dllb)

338 I know Hillary's dumb. She failed the bar. But that dumb? Wow. My dog knows that much. Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 03:53 PM (eO5CB) Eh, I've known pretty smart people who didn't pass the bar exam the first time around. But she is not too bright. Ruthless, conniving and evil, absolutely.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:57 AM (NWiLs)

339 If Donald Trump put down that diet coke he could dick-punch twice as many babies. 

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2017 10:58 AM (bJ0w+)

340 What worries me is that we had a really astonishing uprising in Tehran a few years back (I basically lived on the twitter feeds) and it was all for naught. Gonna be praying for them this time. Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:26 PM (14URa) I want this to work so bad.

Posted by: eleven at December 31, 2017 10:58 AM (+lOpA)

341 Dagny's dog for President!

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 03:55 PM (8ikIW)


Well, she's a bitch and a bit high-pitched, but is at least loyal, doesn't hate men, and is skeptical of big government (at least the mail and trash).

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 10:58 AM (eO5CB)

342 Food Thread is NOooood

Posted by: Bruce at December 31, 2017 10:59 AM (8ikIW)

343 dagny, I'd say yes - she's that dumb (and Huma's advice accurately reflects her intellectual level as well). Come on. You live in the Beltway. The collective IQ has been plunging for years, whatever the stupid credentials are. The Clinton years, I thought, were pinch-yourself-are-you-kidding-me in terms of lightweights getting jobs that had been, during the Cold War, some of the most consequential in human history. I knew a lot of them - mediocre Hill staff who were as unworldly and clueless as their bosses. But the Obama years of course took that off the charts. Not just stupid, but clumsy criminals as well. All of which reflects a *country* that's dumbed down, unreliable, and unserious (at least enough for such absurdities as an Obama to occur).

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 10:59 AM (Dhcvl)

344 At least it gives a good reason never to trust Bret Stephens again. Bear in mind Fusion GPS was founded by ex-WSJ reporters. So the rot has set in at the WSJ as well.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2017 10:59 AM (WmqYl)

345 340 What worries me is that we had a really astonishing uprising in Tehran a few years back (I basically lived on the twitter feeds) and it was all for naught. Gonna be praying for them this time. Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 03:26 PM (14URa) I want this to work so bad. Posted by: eleven at December 31, 2017 03:58 PM (+lOpA) I don't want to jinx it by saying anything about the current situation. But I will say that TFG sold those poor bastards out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 10:59 AM (NWiLs)

346 Hillary never did pass the DC bar and I bet the Arkansas bar was a "given pass." The DC bar isn't hard, btw. You can wave into it with a high enough score on the multi-state from any other bar.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 11:00 AM (eO5CB)

347 If DJT can succeed where the political class can't, then what is the point of them? That's why they're terrified. Terrified of being exposed as failures and frauds.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2017 11:02 AM (gC2IV)

348 The citizenry are tired of being the terror financiers and cannon fodder and impoverished to do it. They weren't asked if this is what they want. It obviously isn't. Posted by: Lester at December 31, 2017 03:44 PM (LfJIn) ======== Iran's government is now shutting down social media there. Amazing that citizens there were as well informed as they were.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 31, 2017 11:03 AM (/qEW2)

349 All of which reflects a *country* that's dumbed down, unreliable, and unserious (at least enough for such absurdities as an Obama to occur).

Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 03:59 PM (Dhcvl)



Yes, which I find insulting, ie their fake blather isn't up to the standards of a pre-teen. The "Russia probe based on Pappadopolous in a bar" story is already discredited just by dates. They're sucking more and more at their manipulations. I had better thought out and more ingenious schemes to party in Georgetown as a teenager---car mileage, gas, checking purse for matchbooks, alibis, etc. The obviousness of their corruption is insulting.



Guess that was the point of dumbing down the educational system.

Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 11:05 AM (eO5CB)

350 316 I saw this under Bush, but this time it seems much, much more widespread, and if possible, even more outlandish. Posted by: Farshimmelt Alte-Kocker, AKA rhomboid at December 31, 2017 03:51 PM (Dhcvl) There was Bush Derangement Syndrome, then Palin Derangement Syndrome, and now Trump Derangement Syndrome. Each one has gotten progressively worse. These people are working themselves into a frenzy of hatred towards "the other". They can't wait to start up the gulags and killing fields.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 11:06 AM (sdi6R)

351 346 Hillary never did pass the DC bar and I bet the Arkansas bar was a "given pass." The DC bar isn't hard, btw. You can wave into it with a high enough score on the multi-state from any other bar. Posted by: dagny at December 31, 2017 04:00 PM (eO5CB) Ah so. That is pretty bad.

Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 31, 2017 11:06 AM (NWiLs)

352 At least it gives a good reason never to trust Bret Stephens again. In all honesty, I think I've heard of him before, though it's probably just from him being mocked here.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 31, 2017 11:06 AM (WbIyz)

353 John Kerry@JohnKerry With humility about how little we know about what's happening inside Iran, this much is clear: it's an Iranian moment and not anyone else's. But the rights of people to protest peacefully and voice their aspirations are universal and governments everywhere should respect that. So no James Taylor?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 31, 2017 11:08 AM (+y/Ru)

354 344 Bear in mind Fusion GPS was founded by ex-WSJ reporters. So the rot has set in at the WSJ as well. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 31, 2017 03:59 PM (WmqYl) The WSJ has always been on the open borders side.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 11:10 AM (sdi6R)

355 The headline on Stephen's piece is "Why I'm Still A Never Trumper". My response is "You can kiss my buffalo's butt." Which is Comanche for who gives a flying fig for what nitwits like you think.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 31, 2017 11:11 AM (Sda6L)

356 Hillary never did pass the DC bar - And to this day cannot distinfuish between legal and illegal.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 31, 2017 11:12 AM (+y/Ru)

357 All it would take to defeat the left is unification. That the GOPe will not tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: jsg at December 31, 2017 11:14 AM (gSwpy)

358 320 I've said it before - there's a breed of Republican that, if given the order from recognized authority to report to the gas chambers, will begin formly orderly lines. Posted by: ScoggDog at December 31, 2017 03:52 PM (fiGNd) When the Rule of Law is dead, being a "law abiding citizen" is a sucker's game.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2017 11:14 AM (sdi6R)

359 Stephens and the rest are afraid Trump will get cooties on their favorite policies. As James Taranto noted: https://twitter.com/jamestaranto/status/920143807785598977 "This tweet validates my intuition that NeverTrump is about taste far more than policy."

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 31, 2017 11:16 AM (2kiKp)

360 What's worse is that if Trump lost by the most narrow of margins, it would be evidence to him that GOPe needs to be more like the democrats. He would write many articles about this.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 31, 2017 11:17 AM (rnAwa)

361 What a fucking idiot. Sounds proud to declare what an idiot he is. Another to add to my star chamber list.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 31, 2017 11:21 AM (2DOZq)

362 "This tweet validates my intuition that NeverTrump is about taste far more than policy." - P.J. O'Rourke had to vote for Hitler because Trump is a loud mouth vulgarian.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 31, 2017 11:21 AM (+y/Ru)

363 If DJT can succeed where the political class can't, then what is the point of them? That's why they're terrified. Terrified of being exposed as failures and frauds. Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 31, 2017 04:02 PM (gC2IV) --------- YEP

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 31, 2017 11:21 AM (y3aQB)

364 For Hillary, it is intestinal gas... for Stephens, it is Aromatherapy

Posted by: Catman at December 31, 2017 11:24 AM (HxsWp)

365 John Kerry@JohnKerry With humility about how little we know about what's happening inside Iran, this much is clear: it's an Iranian moment and not anyone else's. But the rights of people to protest peacefully and voice their aspirations are universal and governments everywhere should respect that. He did not say that about the ridiculous Arab Spring. These guys all need to be throat punched.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 31, 2017 11:24 AM (2DOZq)

366 In then ncaa, that would be targeting

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 31, 2017 11:25 AM (PUmDY)

367 Pray for Donald Trump. Posted by: grammie winger - at December 31, 2017 02:57 PM (lwiT4) Nice post, GW, and FenSpouse and I do pray for him together every morning and I pray additionally during the day. Thanks for the reminder.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2017 11:29 AM (8+Ozj)

368 http://bit.ly/2Ci8Zc1 Report: Iranian Protesters Are Marching Towards Supreme Leader Khamenei Residence

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 31, 2017 11:47 AM (y3aQB)

369 362 "This tweet validates my intuition that NeverTrump is about taste far more than policy." - P.J. O'Rourke had to vote for Hitler because Trump is a loud mouth vulgarian. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 31, 2017 04:21 PM (+y/Ru) It has been amazing - and illuminating - to see just how important mere cant is to some people. O'Rourke is famous for his "WE BE BAD" quote (which I will not copy here as it fall afoul of the mu.nu Gods) which I thought would put him firmly in the Trump camp. I guess I was wrong and he really didn't mean it.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 31, 2017 11:47 AM (2kiKp)

370 Reading the year-end wrap ups from the NeverTrumpers I conclude they love his policies but regard them as standard GOP fare.  What pisses them off to no end is that a garbled speaker like Trump is enacting those policies.  They hate his pugnaciousness and his grandiose bluster. 

They make lots of errors in punditry, obviously, but the biggest one is the first:  No Republican would do what Trump has done.  Not a single fucking one.  You see the proof every day in the mealy-mouthed Rubio comments, and the disappearance from public life entirely of the rest of the field.  The exception to all that I just said, of course, is Ted Cruz,  He is supporting almost all of what Trump is doing and, I hope, taking careful note of how to fight a trench warfare political fight.  He will need those lessons when he himself runs again for President.

Maybe then the NeverTrumpers will get what they claim the want, an articulate Republican.  A genuine conservative.

I don't believe them though.  I think they want people like McVain, or Romney.  People who lose gracefully.

Posted by: John Wick at December 31, 2017 11:49 AM (Po6Jc)

371 If people put half the effort into keeping up with what government is doing to us as they do Star Wars there'd be no problemos.

Posted by: eleven at December 31, 2017 11:56 AM (+lOpA)

372 This, folks, is a perfect example of a dickless wonder.

Posted by: Jomcdowe at December 31, 2017 12:05 PM (krCkj)

373 He sounds like your usual trust fund baby who realizes the money is going to run out soon and you're not done being a playboy progressive parasite. The only thing more scary than a pious progressive conservative is a liberal one. Both are repressive snobs who sneer in contempt at the rest of us, then they run out of money and an audience.

Posted by: Rose at December 31, 2017 12:35 PM (30UCB)

374 19 Hillary Clinton seems to be a significant exception to the rule that people who reach the top levels of power are the type that get by on very little sleep and have extraordinarily good health.

She's sickly, messed up, and sleeps like a cat. My guess is in a Hillary administration she'd do virtually nothing in terms of actual policy, mostly a hermit avoiding the press and making few appearances.



If Hillary would have won, would Valarie Jarrett still be running the country?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 31, 2017 12:50 PM (UsCnO)

375 I can understand someone voting third party; I can't understand anybody wanting Hillary. Even on whatever one finds personally distasteful about Trump, where does Hillary score better? Respectability from the press, I suppose. But she is a spiteful woman; very credible reports have her drunk and swearing at staff; she blames the media every bit that Trump does. The FBI Director laid out the case for her having committed a felony. I don't get it.

Posted by: Stephen at December 31, 2017 01:01 PM (G1EML)

376 Oh, lovely, another mass shooting in Colorado. Mostly sheriff's deputies, one fatally. WTH is wrong with people?

Posted by: Peaches at December 31, 2017 02:36 PM (14URa)


Another unhinged Democrat shooter, no doubt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2017 01:04 PM (d6iST)

377 When I were a lad and a dweeb begged for attention that way we'd make him give up his lunch money, throw his shoes over the telephone line and roll him into the ditch.

Posted by: Wit's End at December 31, 2017 01:04 PM (ROYpB)

378 How much of Trump's bombasticisty is reaction to out right lies and fabrications from the media and actual subversion of the Constitution by deep state bureaucracy? I dare say 90% or more.

Posted by: MAGA at December 31, 2017 01:19 PM (LnOh3)

379 http://bit.ly/2Cfmglo Exodus in Progress?: Mystery Aircrafts Leave Iran With No Callsign, Origin, or Destination As Protests Rage (PHOTOS)

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 31, 2017 01:39 PM (y3aQB)

380 I love you people.

Posted by: Mike at December 31, 2017 02:11 PM (Ykl6o)

381 The Ravens JUST Blew a Playoff spot losing to the Bungals & a 4th & 12 Play that got them a TD

Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 31, 2017 02:58 PM (y3aQB)

382 But I still wish Hillary Clinton were president. Why? Did you want to purchase some foreign policy from the Clinton Foundation? The fact that Stephens can't simply admit he was wrong doesn't speak well of his judgment.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 31, 2017 03:08 PM (Ndje9)

383 I'm sorry, but I simply cannot take seriously anyone who would chose the "character" of Hillary Clinton over literally anyone else. #NeverTrump insanity at its very worst, and perfectly fitting for the house "conservative" for the NY Slimes.

Posted by: DocJ at December 31, 2017 03:08 PM (7bkOX)

384 Most of the "lose with grace" "conservatives" of the day used to crap all over Ronnie Raygun, especially during the first half of his first term. They were wrong then and have evidently learned absolutely nothing - including how to admit when they're wrong.

Posted by: DocJ at December 31, 2017 03:14 PM (7bkOX)

385 Happy New Year, all. Out.

Posted by: DocJ at December 31, 2017 03:15 PM (7bkOX)

386 Unless Brett Stephens condemned the imposition of gay marriage in the most strident terms, he can fuck right the hell off. He stands exposed as a hypocrite

Posted by: Luke at December 31, 2017 04:47 PM (4fUM9)

387 The exactly correct response to this nytimes plant, screw you dude..

Posted by: Dude at January 01, 2018 11:24 AM (1V/O9)

388 cucks gotta cuck...even if it means giving her your entire paycheck

Posted by: torabora at January 01, 2018 04:38 PM (fISt7)

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