June 27, 2006
— Ace The notorious discussion in which Mike Wallace declared that a true reporter could not warn a group of troops he was embedded with of a coming attack on them that they would otherwise be surprised (and killed) by.
Because there is not only no higher status than "reporter," but not even other obligations that compete with it (such as patriotism or even mere respect for human life).
As Football Fans For Truth concludes in disgust:
They actually believe this shit. Life is just another episode of Lou Grant.
We all know the reports where some well-dressed, well fed guy is standing by people who clearly need help and food, giving his news report without lifting a finger. Of footage filmed by some reporter who could have helped but didn't so he could get the film.
These guys lose a sense of what it means to be responsible citizens when they get this involved in a story. They ignore the damage they can and will do, all for getting that story. And that's the goal, that's the justification, their end: getting the story.
To that end, anything is fine, it's moral pragmatism at it's finest: any means to an end.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2006 05:22 PM (Pwzb0)
Posted by: shawn at June 27, 2006 05:24 PM (lwPIs)
Posted by: Outlaw13 at June 27, 2006 05:27 PM (WYw2o)
Posted by: Stillers at June 27, 2006 05:32 PM (blNMI)
Next time you see a reporter, esp. NYT's, kicke 'em in the nuts. Hard.
Hey, you're just exercising your right to free speech/dissent/frustration at the NeoJoocons, etc., etc. ad really fuckin' nauseum.
Icepick the Mad!
Posted by: Icepick the Mad! at June 27, 2006 05:38 PM (sPfbv)
Every year, the military comes out on top. The press is always down there near the bottom, competing for last place with Law firms, Congress, and labor unions.
I wonder why?
Posted by: stace at June 27, 2006 05:40 PM (A56/D)
You know- in the public interest.
Posted by: drjohn at June 27, 2006 05:45 PM (Bglwi)
You and I fear an enemy that we think may actually destroy our way of life. Highly placed "journalists" appear not to have much fear of that enemy. It seems that when we are choosing the persons on whom we will rely for their observations and analyses, we must find those who love and fear the same things we do--or who can persuade us reasonably to love and fear the same things they do.
Posted by: Kralizec at June 27, 2006 05:48 PM (gHR/6)
Posted by: Scrapiron at June 27, 2006 06:11 PM (wKh5O)
Betchas he sings in three keys at once.
Posted by: The Machine at June 27, 2006 06:14 PM (L/jMX)
These guys are idiots and this true story tells you all you need to know about them.
Posted by: MagicalPat at June 27, 2006 06:15 PM (fhkva)
I guess Ernie Pyle wasn't a "true reporter" then. Sick, isn't it?
Posted by: Redhand at June 27, 2006 06:15 PM (7G9b2)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 27, 2006 06:25 PM (Pwzb0)
-no "death to journalists". Ace of spades lifestyle no longer permits the bashing of homo's or death threats to jono's. It is acceptable to laugh at their misfortune, criminal charges (innocent or not, they are guilty if it sells Viagra) and hate them. If a jono happens to pass away "in the line of duty" it is not acceptable to laugh, mock, make light of or exploit the death (even though the average jono is thinking pulitzer when they see a dead american). It is still acceptable to laugh at the "died in the line of duty" tribute that they will show on the next episode.
Posted by: new moderator at June 27, 2006 06:30 PM (wFBkf)
I wouldn't go that far, there are some good reporters out there these days. Micheal Yon and Bill Roggio come to mind. Both have written some excellent pieces and are very supportive of the military.
Posted by: Moose at June 27, 2006 06:53 PM (3btGz)
Thats how I view leftist patriotism. They just whanna get some from America, no matter what they make america believe along the lines. Only the left is willing to outright lie.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at June 27, 2006 06:54 PM (QTv8u)
I shit you not: when Colonel George Connell gave his response Wallace actually smirked.
It was the kind of smirk that said "I can't believe how amusing these fucking poltroons are." It was the kind of smirk that begs to wiped of one's face by the harshest means available.
And the real pisser here is that Wallace's ENTIRE FUCKING CAREER rested on his injecting himself into every fucking story he ever did.
I mean, shit, if I recall correctly, the scenario presented by the moderator (I'm trying to recall something I haven't actually seen in over 15 years) involved nothing more than the journalist making a phone call without the real possibility of getting caught. It was a free fucking ride.
But American troops just don't rate the same on Wallace's "what equals 'coverage' today?" chart as little old ladies getting scammed by dishonest mechanics, apparently, so, as Kos would no doubt have said, fuck 'em. The troops, that is, not the little old ladies, although ya wouldn't have put it past Wallace to have done just that if he could have gotten a good seven minutes of "coverage" out of it.
Posted by: ccwbass at June 27, 2006 08:18 PM (PHaXK)
Posted by: Aaron at June 27, 2006 08:23 PM (2jUYl)
Posted by: ccwbass at June 27, 2006 08:36 PM (PHaXK)
At minute 45:52, Rep. Louis Stokes summarizes the debate: The media has the "problem of trying to set their priorities in terms of whether they are journalists first or Americans first. . . . That is a professional decision they are going to have to come to grips with."
It seems like the NY Times, LA Times et al. have made that decision.
Posted by: rxwhite at June 27, 2006 08:44 PM (y9lOw)
Posted by: rakmjn1 at June 27, 2006 09:20 PM (BvZbS)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 27, 2006 11:07 PM (M0Kdm)
Posted by: ToughLuck at June 27, 2006 11:18 PM (6NKGp)
Mike Wallace was one of their customers, and everybody hated his guts. He was unbelievably rude.
"Do you know who I am?"
Manners are for little people.
Posted by: lauraw at June 28, 2006 03:52 AM (HGiJO)
Posted by: spurwing plover at June 28, 2006 04:12 AM (QtdTZ)
Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at June 28, 2006 04:32 AM (kd/kM)
Posted by: bledsoe at June 28, 2006 04:33 AM (c5dyd)
Right in their wax-clotted, shit-filled ears.
Posted by: CrankyProf at June 28, 2006 04:45 AM (Pt0Hz)
"Do you know who I am?"
Amazingly enough, John Kerry has a similar reputation in his home.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 28, 2006 05:54 AM (Pwzb0)
Posted by: K in RI at June 28, 2006 07:32 AM (m0Y8S)
Plus, who remebers "Star Colon Wars : The Search for Katie Couric's Brain?"
Posted by: crankyprof at June 28, 2006 07:39 AM (Pt0Hz)
Ego? Naaaaaaa. Fucking clueless? Naaaaaa.
Posted by: wiserbud at June 28, 2006 08:19 AM (AQGeh)
Posted by: Maggie at July 11, 2006 08:03 PM (J8pt0)
Posted by: Cassie at July 14, 2006 11:51 AM (JLC5c)
Posted by: Heather at July 14, 2006 10:13 PM (azwu2)
Very awsome post. Hope it will always be alive!
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