August 31, 2008

Dead Heat: Obama 49 McCain 48
— Ace

One thing those beatin' on Palin ought to keep in mind: John McCain doesn't get a vice president if he doesn't get elected president in the first place.

Thanks to CJ.

Posted by: Ace at 04:39 PM | Comments (31)
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1 Is Palin a hacker?

Posted by: read the whole story at August 31, 2008 04:45 PM (xOrB4)



For an ole fart I am feeling damn good.  I have said over and over, Dukakis, was ahead 8 points after convention and got his ass kicked.  We haven't even started our convention and we are only a point down.

40 states.  McGovern again.

Cocksuckers remember these forecasts.


Posted by: kempermanx at August 31, 2008 04:45 PM (2+9Yx)

3 I suspect Palin will not create what the Brits call a "uniform swing": rather, she will help more at the margins in the battleground states than she does in the less relevant nationwide polls.

Posted by: Dave J at August 31, 2008 04:45 PM (qsGH+)

4 I suspect that Palin will: Crush her enemies, See them driven before her, and hear the celebration of the women.

Posted by: Bubba Thudd at August 31, 2008 04:58 PM (Q9kZv)


And $7M in fundraising ain't nothing. 

The base likes her, and that makes it a smart pick, regardless.

McCain's people are on FUCKING FIRE as they say. 

And I never thought I would say that.



Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2008 04:59 PM (KpEAZ)

6 I agree, kempermanx.  I've been saying since I heard Obama was the nominee that Republicans would win the presidency, and if McCain didn't completely screw up his veep pick, it'd be a landslide of 1980 proportions.  Yes, I think it's plausible McCain even takes New Jersey and CA.

I find it amazing that Democrats managed to find a nominee who was even worse than John Kerry, but I seem to have a limitless capacity for overestimating them, no matter how much I feel my opinion of them couldn't be any lower.


Posted by: Qwinn at August 31, 2008 05:00 PM (anXNR)

7 There's a long time yet to go.  60+ days in politics is an eternity. 

Still, I sense a cold sweat across the aisle.  The Democrats between the primary and now the general have dumped HUGE amounts of money into this so far.  Astronomical really.  They can't be happy.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at August 31, 2008 05:07 PM (nuuDA)

8 Keep in mind the debates are coming up, and Reverend Wright will be making an October appearance. Not everyone has heard of Obama's Anti-American church. Plus, the NRA will be spending 40 million against Obama, and now they have Sarah Palin to inspire them.

I saw the fear in Gloria Borger's eyes today on CNN. She was clenching her fingers on her papers while Bonier was going off on all the experience she has.
Love McCain now, LOVE him.

Posted by: Stormy70 at August 31, 2008 05:10 PM (Y+o71)


Palin has won the election for McCain unless he drops the ball.

Anybody with a brain knows that the persistent leftist propaganda that the US is trending leftward is utter bullshit.  The core of American culture is conservative, and the only reason it isn't obvious to all is the control of the media exercised by the left.  As soon as someone with a (true) story so compelling as Ms. Palin's comes along, the dike bursts.  That's why the media/donk prime directive is "no more Reagans".

Mark my words, it just happened again.  That is why the donk-o-media is in a panic.

Chicago, OBAMA 13... we have a problem here.

Posted by: sherlock at August 31, 2008 05:11 PM (ojW85)

10 All of Sarah Palin's experience, not Gloria's. Her experience consists of parroting the  liberal producers whispering Obama's talking points in her earpiece.

Posted by: Stormy70 at August 31, 2008 05:12 PM (Y+o71)

11 Team Obama must be pissed tonight. Here they spent all that money on the coronation, figured a 10+ bump before the RNC was out the starting gate and BURP! They got nothin'. I'll bet they're already referring to Governor Palin as "that $#% bitch"! Hey Biden, hear any "bus jokes" lately?

Posted by: GarandFan at August 31, 2008 05:22 PM (eJ32B)

12 Juan Williams on Fox News Sunday said he (paraphrasing) hoped "Biden took it easy on Palin in the debates because he's a champ and she's a lightweight" *sigh* I was beginning to think Juan was starting to break free from the Democrat bullshit. I

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2008 05:27 PM (SeMKR)

13 If Juan thinks Biden is a 'champ' he's already set the bar real low.

Posted by: GarandFan at August 31, 2008 05:29 PM (eJ32B)

14 Well, yes, Bubba Thudd.  What you said you goes without saying.  What I said was speculation.

Posted by: Dave J at August 31, 2008 05:32 PM (qsGH+)

15 The debates are going to be a route.  Biden will look puffed up and foolish Obama will look like a panderer.  They'll look that way because that is what they are.  Palin will look like a really smart  and normal human being.  McCain will be a tough old bastard. Because that is what they are.  The Dems will lose by double digits.  My guess is both campaigns internal polls are all ready seeing that trend, thus the panic.
 I also bet that a lot of left wing journalists are calling their right leaning journalist friends and really pushing the "inexperiecned" line hard, mostly out of desperation.  I hope the right leaning pundits aren't collegial enough to buy that crap.  But I think great numbers of them are.    That would explain a lot of what I've seen from journalists lately.  I begin to think the right leaning journalists I rail at most ( The NRO ) aren't  so much dumb or corrupt, just horribly easy to manipulate and too silly and full of themselves to recognize that their colleagues would do that to them.  Well they will and they have... on Jamil Hussein on the TNR on John Edwards and now on Palin as well I think.  Here's hoping they wise up.  I'll try to keep a more civil tongue in my head without totally losing my bite.

Posted by: The Obvious at August 31, 2008 05:51 PM (1g+FW)

16 Oh, and there is simply no way McCain would be in a dead heat at this point merely based on the MSM reporting of the Democratic convention.  Likewise with the addition of Romney or Pawlenty.  They don't make the difference Palin has because they don't knock  Obama out of the news.  Any one can see it...  If they'll stop listening to their news room friends and and use the eyes God gave them..

Posted by: The Obvious at August 31, 2008 05:58 PM (1g+FW)


Obama is pretty much screwed.

There's a long way to go yet...but if you cut through the bullshit, right now, for multiple reasons, it's looking like Mondale.

He'll carry a lot more then Minnesota - all the dem regulars. But he's gonna get fricken creamed just the same.

Posted by: Entropy at August 31, 2008 06:01 PM (HgAV0)

18 There's an outside chance he loses New York and maybe even California.  If Palin wows the Reagan Democrats big things are possible. We'll see that's just dreaming at this point..

Posted by: The Obvious at August 31, 2008 06:06 PM (1g+FW)

19 A day and a half after Obama's angry speech from a personal Parthenon, his 6% bump is completely stolen by McCain's VP pick.

One might reasonably wonder if Obama isn't headed for a face plant off the monkey bars.

Posted by: Justin at August 31, 2008 06:21 PM (iH1PP)

20 Justin,

He is. There's zero doubt about it.

All credit to Jack M. who called it way back when.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 31, 2008 06:37 PM (hlYel)

21 When I first heard about Barack and his Parthenon for the convention speech, the first thing that came to mind was Robespierre and his Temple (and Cult) of Reason.

Posted by: EricTheRed21 at August 31, 2008 07:02 PM (SWX8D)


McCain-Palin 2008.

Posted by: MlR at August 31, 2008 07:24 PM (PLmsY)

23 There's an outside chance he loses New York and maybe even California.

The only one who could have cracked NYC was Rudy as VP.  NYC is just too big a nut to crack for outsider R's on their own.  McCain can take all of upstate in a massive landslide and still lose the state due to NYC.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 31, 2008 07:36 PM (6L459)

24 The big picture is the narrative that Reps should be ashamed of being Republican. We've heard this over and over and over and over since Reagan was elected and stomped all over their policy "advantage".

And we'd heard a lot of it before last week. "Rethuglicans" are anti-woman, anti-minority, anti-Gaia, unilateralist, backward, uncaring assholes.

And, thanks in large part to GWB, we've copped to this and writhed around at how horrible we are.

That Sh*t gets old.

"Maverick" has done his bit on both sides of things. Sometimes he does deals that get things done and sometimes he does deals that buy into the "we bad, we bad" chronicle.

Bringing in Sarah Palin as VP, though, puts a different spin on things. You have to do deals to make things happen in the Senate -- it's the way of things. But if you have a moose-hunting, corruption-quashing, cost-saving, hyper-competent woman -- who just happens to be married to a hyper-competent snowmobile-racing, steelworking, Yup'ik ("genuine people") man -- on your ticket, you're sending a clear signal that the entire "Rethuglican" meme is blown.

Sarah Palin says that the Republican Party stands for men and women who stand for themselves. Strong women, strong men. Citizens who set their country above their party, and who exemplify "diversity" by putting it in its rightful place -- subordinate to family and the rule of law. People who live their principles when times get tough, and own their own lives without government interference.

For people who heard Michelle Obama's "for the first time in my adult lifetime I am really proud of my country" comment, the contrast could not be more clear. A child of privelege, bringing down a $300K salary after her husband provided a $1M earmark to her employer, known for complaining over the burden of government-subsidized student loans that she incurred to attend contrast to Palin's attendance at the University of Idaho, and her profound appreciation of the opportunities provided by the American Dream.......

Confronted with the choice between such optimism and such pessimism, I can only hope that this election heavily favors Palin -- and the old fart on the top of the ticket.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 31, 2008 10:00 PM (xmT2y)


THat 41% who know nothing about her is an important number.

They can be swayed against her if the cocksucker contingency is allowed to drive the narrative.

She needs to introduce herself in a very public, but down to earth way and shell have the same 80% approval rating

I love how the cocksucker MSM is trying to compare her to Hillary- as if its even close (in terms of experience- and no, I dont think riding your hubbies coattails into a carpetbagging Senate seat is impressive)

Posted by: TMF at August 31, 2008 10:12 PM (/YM8H)


Sarah Palin? Who? Oh, you mean the "former mayor of a small town"? (tm)?

Posted by: Granpa in the oldfucks home who only watches CNN at August 31, 2008 10:13 PM (/YM8H)

27 Kempermanx,
You sign your posts "Kemp", last name, first name, or nickname?

Posted by: SaTx at August 31, 2008 11:47 PM (t9IvU)

28 Purple,

We'll see. I suspect, that if the Rs will lay off the Hillary attacks just a bit that a number of Manhattan women will quietly pull the lever for Palin...Could be very wrong...

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