December 30, 2013

David Brooks Hired by Yale University to Teach a Class on... Humility
— Ace

Sounds about right.

From New York Magazine:

Star New York Times columnist and Jay-Z enthusiast David Brooks is taking his talents to New Haven. The Yale Herald‘s Bullblog noticed that every liberals’ “favorite conservative” will be teaching a class in the spring titled just plain “Humility.” According to its description, the course promises to explore “The premise that human beings are blessed with many talents but are also burdened by sinfulness, ignorance, and weakness,” as demonstrated by men such as Moses, Homer, and “others,” like maybe Paul Krugman.

The class is a 300 level elective and has a prerequisite of Advanced Trouser Crease Appreciation 201.

Posted by: Ace at 08:43 AM | Comments (191)
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1 That is so well put, Ace. You are completely correct.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2013 08:16 AM (4dwhV)

2 ...been waiting a week to do that. And, in before the Butter Jokes.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2013 08:16 AM (4dwhV)

3 Wait, that's David Frum. David Brooks. Who the hell is David Brooks?

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2013 08:17 AM (4dwhV)

4 I have an inate distrust of anyone with a first name that begins and ends with the letter d surrounding the letter sequence avi who is associated with the NYT.

Posted by: angel with a sword at December 30, 2013 08:21 AM (hpgw1)

5 2 things:

Galaxian


&


Finely creased trousers = a very good president AND humility


Posted by: David Brooks - Severe Conservative at December 30, 2013 08:25 AM (4eNxd)

6 Did they also hire Andi Sullivan to teach a course on the female reproductive system?

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 30, 2013 08:27 AM (AiYlm)

7 Was Obama too busy?

Posted by: NCKate at December 30, 2013 08:30 AM (Auy5s)

8 Next semester, Alex Baldwin will be offering a course entitled Emotional Restraint.

Posted by: Warden at December 30, 2013 08:32 AM (bmp0d)

9 Maybe it'll be like drug classes.  Just say no to humility.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 30, 2013 08:32 AM (XUKZU)

10 Brooks does have a lot to be humble about, so there's that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 30, 2013 08:32 AM (8ZskC)

11 Bhatkal told the interrogators that he had asked his Pakistan-based boss, Riyaz Bhatkal, over phone whether the latter could arrange a small "nuclear bomb". According to him, Riyaz responded, "Anything can be arranged in Pakistan".

Posted by: UBL at December 30, 2013 08:34 AM (e8kgV)

12 Obama says he does humility better than Saint Francis of Assisi and Mother Theresa combined.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 30, 2013 08:34 AM (XUKZU)

13 Fall semester 2014 Sandra Fluke will be teaching a Yale workshop on keeping the labia moist and pliant. She will be followed by Ashley Judd's workshop on Puffiness Through the Ages - A Women's Badge of Beauty.

Posted by: angel with a sword at December 30, 2013 08:34 AM (hpgw1)

14 Warmists and their erstwhile rescuers icebound in a bay that was readily navigable three years in a row a hundred years ago. Now 'Creases' Brooks teaching a class on humility. The year's ending under a crushing load of irony.

Posted by: JEM at December 30, 2013 08:34 AM (o+SC1)

15 Humility for official conservative David Brooks probably means always acknowledging the superiority of liberals. G.K. Chesterton said something about we should be humble about ourselves but proud of our convictions. Many today have precisely reversed that.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 30, 2013 08:34 AM (cbJW3)

16 And Miley Cyrus will be teaching a class on keeping it classy.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 30, 2013 08:35 AM (XUKZU)

17 Tommy Christopher will be teaching P90X.

Posted by: NCKate at December 30, 2013 08:35 AM (Auy5s)

18 I understand they've already got Miley Cyrus and Pink lined up to co-teach etiquette.

Posted by: JEM at December 30, 2013 08:36 AM (o+SC1)

19 >>The Yale Herald‘s Bullblog noticed that every liberals’ “favorite conservative” will be teaching a class in the spring titled just plain “Humility. Should be teaching a course on Self-Loathing.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2013 08:37 AM (g1DWB)

20 Ace you realize that this post actually has appeared under your video game walkthrough.

Posted by: buzzion at December 30, 2013 08:37 AM (LI48c)

21 John McCain will be teaching the senior-level seminar, "How Not to be Seduced By Media Attention."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 30, 2013 08:38 AM (8ZskC)

22 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:39 AM (PYAXX)

23 Humility means having the good taste to make sure your lip gloss matches your tie/hanky ensemble.

Posted by: Fritz at December 30, 2013 08:39 AM (UzPAd)

24 Dammit ace! I wanna play with the time machine, too!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:39 AM (PYAXX)

25 Just as ridiculous and coming soon to an Ivy League university near you: John Kerry teaches foreign policy.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 30, 2013 08:39 AM (XUKZU)

26 If you like your post order you can keep your post order...

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2013 08:39 AM (BF+2f)

27 They could let *me* teach a course on humility. Those students would be incredibly humbled by the time I was done.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:41 AM (PYAXX)

28 Harry Reid teaches a class on character.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 30, 2013 08:41 AM (cbJW3)

29 Are we SURE this isn't from "The Onion?"   Because first off, who the fuck teaches a CLASS about humility?  And secondly, who the fuck hires someone like David "I fuck trouser creases" Brooks to teach it?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 08:41 AM (4df7R)

30 I weep for mankind.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 08:42 AM (x3YFz)

31 "Sure you can solve the 4th quadratic form in your head. Now make bread. Here, have some wheat." "Oh, you can quote all of Shakespear's sonnets in chronological (published) order? Fantastic, fix this car alignment."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:42 AM (PYAXX)

32 20 Ace you realize that this post actually has appeared under your video game walkthrough. ____________ I think that's because of the time machine. He stamped that post 2:35 (instaead of 12:35, which is when i think he actually posted it)

Posted by: shredded chi, the young curmudgeon at December 30, 2013 08:42 AM (hW6y3)

33 Oh and nice things were said about you in the earlier posts, Ace, go check 'em out! Much nostalgia and cake to be had.

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2013 08:43 AM (BF+2f)

34 27 They could let *me* teach a course on humility. Those students would be incredibly humbled by the time I was done. The students will get a pretty good handle on humility when the hit the job market.

Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at December 30, 2013 08:43 AM (cbJW3)

35 I weep for mankind. I think I'm nearly in the "laugh maniacally and throw matches" stage.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:43 AM (PYAXX)

36 Dammit. This is going to conflict with my Tolerance and Understanding 320 course by Anwar al Awlaki.

Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2013 08:43 AM (fWAjv)

37 Sandra Fluke will teach "The Virtues of Premarital Celibacy."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 30, 2013 08:43 AM (8ZskC)

38 MWR's class on humility would be titled:  "Why Professor MWR makes more money than you do, why she deserves it, and why none of you are the Very Special Little Snowflake your parents, grandparents, teachers and coaches have been telling you you are since you were born 101."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 08:43 AM (4df7R)

39 I read it the first time as Mel  Brooks.   And I thought, what a hoot.

Posted by: Soona at December 30, 2013 08:44 AM (v44X4)

40 29 Are we SURE this isn't from "The Onion?" Because first off, who the fuck teaches a CLASS about humility? And secondly, who the fuck hires someone like David "I fuck trouser creases" Brooks to teach it?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 30, 2013 01:41 PM (4df7R)


Apparently those that can't do humility, teach it.

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2013 08:44 AM (BF+2f)

41 Oh, Lord, it's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way.

Posted by: David Brooks at December 30, 2013 08:44 AM (aVcgy)

42 The students will get a pretty good handle on humility when the hit the job market. If the current crop I've seen are any indication? Not so much.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:44 AM (PYAXX)

43 Well, You know what they say..

Those who can.. do
And those who can't.. teach

And those who haven't done a single thing worthwhile in their entire lives... teach at Yale.

Posted by: wiserbud at December 30, 2013 08:44 AM (NXg/k)

44 Fat fucker mayor in Canada will be teaching Gravitas 069.

Posted by: NCKate at December 30, 2013 08:44 AM (Auy5s)

45 35 I weep for mankind.

I think I'm nearly in the "laugh maniacally and throw matches" stage.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 01:43 PM (PYAXX)

I *knew* there was a checklist.

Next up was urinate in public with just a santa hat and a batman bra.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 08:44 AM (x3YFz)

46 Lets do the TIME WARP AGAIN!!!! Just a jump to the Left....

Posted by: Riff Raff.... at December 30, 2013 08:45 AM (lZBBB)

47

Morning, Ace.  And congratulations.

 

What's next?  Hillary teaching a class on vajazzling?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2013 08:45 AM (zF6Iw)

48 hmm, perhaps His class on humility  will
focus on humble pie.
as in  'others' having to eating it.

Posted by: willow at December 30, 2013 08:46 AM (nqBYe)

49 Wibbly whimey timey whimey stuff?

Posted by: Dr. Who... at December 30, 2013 08:46 AM (lZBBB)

50 We need to get the MSNBC team to teach Bible Studies.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 30, 2013 08:46 AM (XUKZU)

51

"The students will get a pretty good handle on humility when the hit the job market. "



If the current crop I've seen are any indication? Not so much.

 

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 01:44 PM (PYAXX)

 

 

That's why they need a class to teach it.   Especially at Yale.  "But I graduated from YALE.  Of COURSE I deserve a job!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 08:46 AM (4df7R)

52

If you maintain an extraordinary crease, you'll never have to humble...

Class dismissed.

Posted by: David Brooks at December 30, 2013 08:47 AM (Pr6hk)

53 David Brooks. Who the hell is David Brooks?

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2013 01:17 PM (4dwhV)

**********

He has a brother and together they make suits.  He also likes butter, although not for the same reasons as Frum.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 30, 2013 08:47 AM (jucos)

54 David Brooks Hired by Yale University to Teach a Class on... Humility Sounds about right ____________ You spelled hubris wrong.

Posted by: shredded chi, the young curmudgeon at December 30, 2013 08:47 AM (hW6y3)

55 47 Morning, Ace. And congratulations.

What's next? Hillary teaching aclass on vajazzling?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2013 01:45 PM (zF6Iw)

OMG.  quite possibly the worst mental image ever. 

But, could have been Sotomayor, so... there's that.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 08:47 AM (x3YFz)

56 Will Mark Shields be there to nod approvingly?

Posted by: Lester at December 30, 2013 08:48 AM (2UPXV)

57 That's why they need a class to teach it. Especially at Yale. "But I graduated from YALE. Of COURSE I deserve a job!" Egg Zachary. But the people who *need* to teach such a course are people Yale would never let on campus if they could avoid it. Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, car mechanics...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:48 AM (PYAXX)

58 But, could have been Sotomayor, so... there's that.
-
I see that Sotomayor will be joining Miley Cyrus to ring in the new year.  Class, baby!

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 30, 2013 08:48 AM (XUKZU)

59
Logic would dictate that by definition there can be no professor in a class on "humility".

Posted by: Spock at December 30, 2013 08:48 AM (MaP11)

60 i dunno i think our betters could use a class on reality and understanding their constituents.

Posted by: willow at December 30, 2013 08:48 AM (nqBYe)

61 If we could get Obama to teach a class on humility the universe would self destruct.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 08:49 AM (x3YFz)

62 David Brooks teaching humility at Yale is like Yale's economics professors teaching economics at Yale.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 30, 2013 08:49 AM (XUKZU)

63 OMG. quite possibly the worst mental image ever.


Arabic inscriptions in rhinestones can be quite beautiful.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at December 30, 2013 08:49 AM (8ZskC)

64
Especially David Fuckin Brooks, hahahahahaha

*deep breath* Bwahahahahahaha

heehee hee heee

Posted by: Spock at December 30, 2013 08:49 AM (MaP11)

65 If we could get Obama to teach a class on humility the universe would self destruct. I like this plan! I'm glad to be a part of it!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:49 AM (PYAXX)

66 I'm so old that I remember when they taught things like math and science in college and the humility part was learned when you got your grades. Gosh, we have progressed so far.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2013 08:50 AM (g1DWB)

67 47 What's next? Hillary teaching aclass on vajazzling?

Maybe Honesty for Hill. For Bill a class on Honor.

Posted by: Lester at December 30, 2013 08:50 AM (2UPXV)

68 David Brooks Top Five Ways to Demonstrate Humility While Attending Yale. 5. Drink tap water straight from the bubblah for a day. 4. Wear a Timex. 3. Be seen reading the NY Post 2. Rent a 2005 Chevy Impala from Rent-a-Wreck and drive it to the Hamptons for an entire weekend. 1. One night stand with a Boston University Student. -

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 30, 2013 08:50 AM (NQyj0)

69 We live in a bad movie.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 08:51 AM (EWsrI)

70 I see that Sotomayor will be joining Miley Cyrus to ring in the new year. Class, baby!


This year adds a new tradition to the annual televised ball-drop.  It involves a giant foam finger. 

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 30, 2013 08:51 AM (8ZskC)

71 But the people who *need* to teach such a course are people Yale would never let on campus if they could avoid it. Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, car mechanics...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 01:48 PM (PYAXX)

 

I dunno.  I've met my fair share of   carpenters and car mechanics.   Humility     is not really their strong suit.   Of course, they have less reason to be humble than, say, a   guy with a PhD in Elizabethan Poetry who works down at Starbucks    because   there aren't a lot of openings for   scholars in Tudor literary styles in the job market.    At least the carpenter and mechanic   provide a valuable service.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 08:52 AM (4df7R)

72 Is this a prank? If so, who is the prankee? Brooks? Yale? Us? Philosophical humility. What a zero of a course. I notice Brooks was a visiting Prof at Duke on Public Policy. At least he can claim some expertise having been employed to analyze Public Policy for a legitimate magazine. Isn't Philosophy taught somewhat like a strict logic course? My Philosophy course at BYU was almost 100% logic. We did a lot of proofs using the ideas of the greats. Will Brooks' degree in History be useful here? Is a degree in History ever useful to anyone but the rare successful author or Professor?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 08:52 AM (WhJf8)

73 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 30, 2013 01:51 PM (8ZskC) Admit it. You'd hit that. The only question is which kind of bus you'd use: VW or Greyhound?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:52 AM (PYAXX)

74 60 i dunno i think our betters could use a class on reality and understanding their constituents. Posted by: willow at December 30, 2013 01:48 PM (nqBYe) Yeah.... a class taught to ALL politicians, and the Political Class... Entitled... TANSTAAFL (There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch) is a Natural Law....

Posted by: Lazurus Long.... at December 30, 2013 08:52 AM (lZBBB)

75 Of all my extraordinarily impressive qualities, humility is foremost.

Posted by: Warden at December 30, 2013 08:53 AM (bmp0d)

76 What's next? Hillary teaching aclass on vajazzling? Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2013 01:45 PM (zF6Iw) Why do I have an image of a pierced elephant ear in my mind now.

Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2013 08:53 AM (fWAjv)

77 Maybe Honesty for Hill. For Bill a class on Honor.

 

Posted by: Lester at December 30, 2013 01:50 PM (2UPXV)

 

Hey, I was on her and off her all night!  Hi-yo!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, rifling through your daughter's panties at December 30, 2013 08:53 AM (zF6Iw)

78 When you get an "A" in the course should you keep quiet about it?

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 08:53 AM (EWsrI)

79 I'm so old that I remember when they taught things like math and science in college and the humility part was learned when you got your grades.

Gosh, we have progressed so far.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2013 01:50 PM (g1DWB)

 

 

I remember when they used to teach math, science and reading in grade school, so      you didn't have to learn that remedial shit in college,   and you got humility from your parents.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 08:54 AM (4df7R)

80 His students will get mortar bored

Posted by: Amb. Stevens at December 30, 2013 08:54 AM (R6JT1)

81 Hillary has the biggest Wizards Sleeve ah have ever seen!

Posted by: Billy Jeff at December 30, 2013 08:54 AM (jucos)

82 If I were not so humble, I would not be as perfect a human being as I am.

You're welcome.

Posted by: wiserbud at December 30, 2013 08:54 AM (NXg/k)

83 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 30, 2013 01:52 PM (4df7R) Yeah, that's kind of the point- mechanics and plumbers and electricians actually *do* things, they don't just pontificate about doing things. "Yeah, hoss, your grammar might be better'n mine, but yer gonna be the one calling me when the lights don't come on. The chances of me ever calling you for anything, ever? Zero and falling."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:54 AM (PYAXX)

84 This would be like a former Enron advisor lecturing everyone on economics.

Posted by: Warden at December 30, 2013 08:55 AM (bmp0d)

85 72 Is this a prank? If so, who is the prankee? Brooks? Yale? Us?


Will Brooks' degree in History be useful here? Is a degree in History ever useful to anyone but the rare successful author or Professor?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 01:52 PM (WhJf

History books have a place.

In a pile next to my crapper for when I run out of comic books.

I mean, really:  humanity doesn't learn any lessons from it and repeats the same stupidity over and over, so what's the point?

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 08:55 AM (x3YFz)

86 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 01:54 PM (PYAXX) LOL... yeah Mr. English Major... I'll call you next time I need a verb conjugated....

Posted by: Lazurus Long..... at December 30, 2013 08:56 AM (lZBBB)

87 This would be like a former Enron advisor lecturing everyone on economics.

Posted by: Warden at December 30, 2013 01:55 PM (bmp0d)

 

 

Or a former music critic lecturing everyone on race relations.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 08:56 AM (4df7R)

88 The Goddess Irony just called. She said she's working on a new end zone dance for this one. It will have some twerking and walk like an Egyptian moves in it.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 08:56 AM (EWsrI)

89  Of all my extraordinarily impressive qualities, humility is foremost.

Posted by: Warden at December 30, 2013 01:53 PM (bmp0d)

 

 

-------------------------------------------

 

 

Go ahead, ask me if I'm humble.  I'll tell you I'm  the most humble person you'll ever meet.

Posted by: Soona at December 30, 2013 08:56 AM (v44X4)

90 I'm so old that I remember when they taught things like math and science in college and the humility part was learned when you got your grades. Yale actually has decent schools of Math and Physics.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 08:57 AM (WhJf8)

91 Go ahead, ask me if I'm humble. I'll tell you I'm the most humble person you'll ever meet.

Posted by: Soona at December 30, 2013 01:56 PM (v44X4)

Obama?  Is that you?

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 08:57 AM (x3YFz)

92 This would be like a community organizer bringing the country together.

Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2013 08:58 AM (fWAjv)

93 Goodbye, Mr. Chaps

Posted by: Sumptuary at December 30, 2013 08:58 AM (R6JT1)

94 I'm so old that I remember when they taught things like math and science in college and the humility part was learned when you got your grades. I don't. Of course, I never finished college, so maybe those classes were 300 level or something.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 08:58 AM (PYAXX)

95 Or a tax cheat running the Treasury Dept.

Posted by: AMDG at December 30, 2013 08:58 AM (t7OO0)

96 Brooks must be teaching just the theoretical part.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 30, 2013 08:59 AM (4WhSY)

97 What does a gig like this pay?

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2013 08:59 AM (4dwhV)

98 You know who would make a great humility professor? Me!

Posted by: President Power Pecs at December 30, 2013 08:59 AM (bmp0d)

99 This is akin to having a drug addled nicotine addict with severe malignant narcissistic disorder and daddy issues winning the Presidency twice.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 30, 2013 08:59 AM (jucos)

100 RE the Philosophy of Humility. I wonder if one of the greatest teachers of humility will be cited? I mean, can you even say Jesus Christ on Yale campus? Swearing doesn't count.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:00 AM (WhJf8)

101 I had a student who missed the final this semester.  Sent a pleading e-mail.

My reply?  tough cookies there speedy.  Welcome to "F"

You have no idea the overentitled outragey fit he went into.

Was funny as hell to watch.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:00 AM (x3YFz)

102 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKWch_MNY0

Posted by: OxyCon at December 30, 2013 09:01 AM (xBryS)

103 You have no idea the overentitled outragey fit he went into. Was funny as hell to watch. I hope his parents are rich alumni. Otherwise your next several weeks/months are going to suck.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 09:01 AM (PYAXX)

104 Whoops. "aren't" not "are"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 09:02 AM (PYAXX)

105 Humility means letting others call attention to your remarkably creased pants. 

Posted by: no good deed at December 30, 2013 09:03 AM (HsJeN)

106 I hope his parents are rich alumni. Otherwise your next several weeks/months are going to suck.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 02:01 PM (PYAXX)

Naw.  I have a good dept.  I could give out 120 A's or 120 F's and my chair wouldn't blink an eye.

I told him he's welcome to go see the dean.  If the dean wants to give him a physics III final, then, hey, go crazy.

I'm not signing anything.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:04 AM (x3YFz)

107 I hope his parents aren't rich alumni. Otherwise your next several weeks/months are going to suck. Kid missed the final. Do rich parents overcome that deficit?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:04 AM (WhJf8)

108  Did everyone just go to the older  post that's newer than this new post?

Posted by: Soona at December 30, 2013 09:06 AM (v44X4)

109 My days of not respecting Big Education are certainly coming to a middle.

Posted by: Jaws at December 30, 2013 09:06 AM (4I3Uo)

110 Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 02:04 PM (x3YFz) People say Liberals started taking over Higher Education when Conservatives were willing to go fight and die in Vietnam, and Liberals jumped into "education" to avoid the draft. *I* think Liberals started taking over Higher Ed when rich alumni realized that Little Johnnie wasn't going to get an easy A under a Conservative professor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 09:06 AM (PYAXX)

111

Will Brooks' degree in History be useful here? Is a degree in History ever useful to anyone but the rare successful author or Professor?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 01:52 PM

 

As with just about all liberal arts degrees, I always say that a history (or English or    literature, etc) degree is useful because by their very nature they require a lot of critical analysis of dense textual    sources.   It's a lot of reading and then regurgitating what you read.  

 

When liberal arts colleges    used to actually accomplish   something worthwhile, what they'd do is pump out students who,  while not scientifically or mathematically inclined,     had the ability to read, think, and learn    independently,   which are all crucial elements to any career.    These days, unfortunately, most liberal arts degrees are just there for the kids who are too stupid or too disinterested to major in    something    like science, math or a technical field.     It's a shame.   We NEED liberal arts people, and they're    pool of fellow graduates are too often    the underperforming    dregs of the university system, which means that the whole spectrum of liberal arts degrees are diluted and meaningless.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 09:06 AM (4df7R)

112 Kid missed the final. Do rich parents overcome that deficit?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 02:04 PM (WhJf

To this day, I have nightmares where I show up for class and the room is empty and I missed the final.

No kidding. Nightmares.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:06 AM (x3YFz)

113 We have brand new syllabus you'll find interesting along with pamphlets on how to sign up for Obamacare. 

Posted by: Yale's New Divinity School at December 30, 2013 09:06 AM (HsJeN)

114 113 We have brand new syllabus you'll find interesting along with pamphlets on how to sign up for Obamacare.

Posted by: Yale's New Divinity School at December 30, 2013 02:06 PM (HsJeN)

You're poking irony with a stick, here, you know that? right?

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:08 AM (x3YFz)

115 Do rich parents overcome that deficit? Unfortunately, the answer to that (at least sometimes) is "yes." One of the brothers went to school with a kid (alumnus's kid) who missed a final in the last class they needed to graduate. The school decided (over the prof's & chair's objections) that the kid didn't even have to take the final, the grades would be averaged as though the final didn't even exist. Because extortion works even when you're not GLAAD or the NAACP.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 09:08 AM (PYAXX)

116 Kid missed the final. Do rich parents overcome that deficit?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 02:04 PM (WhJf

 

Depending on your administration?   Yes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 09:09 AM (4df7R)

117 To this day, I have nightmares where I show up for class and the room is empty and I missed the final. No kidding. Nightmares. Took me about five years out of college. Now I have nightmares about missing big bugs in released software.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:09 AM (WhJf8)

118 Now I have nightmares about missing big bugs in released software. "Wait... I removed that DB setup/tear-down code from Release, didn't I???"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 09:10 AM (PYAXX)

119 Humility? I thought that hr'd be a shoo-in for teaching the course, "Ironing Your Pants and Slacks for Instant Success".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 30, 2013 09:10 AM (HsTG8)

120 You're poking irony with a stick, here, you know that? right?

It's kind of fun and goes well with my painkillers. 

Posted by: no good deed at December 30, 2013 09:11 AM (HsJeN)

121 Depending on your administration? Yes. He spelled Yale with a 6. Yale could use an International Airport.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:11 AM (WhJf8)

122 Yale actually has decent schools of Math and Physics.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 01:57 PM (WhJf




Unfortunately, not many of their undergrads know where those buildings are

Posted by: Albert Einstein at December 30, 2013 09:11 AM (Pr6hk)

123 Posted by: President Power Pecs at December 30, 2013 01:59 PM (bmp0d) Vagazzling Shrillary and Sotomayor images, and now disturbing images of Obama shirtless? I hate you all. <3 *munches on Diablo cake while measuring out brain bleach*

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2013 09:12 AM (HyIce)

124 Kid has a black buddy who got a reserved spot at West Point back in September without taking a single AP class, without taking the SAT and without completing the application process.

Posted by: NCKate at December 30, 2013 09:12 AM (Auy5s)

125 "Wait... I removed that DB setup/tear-down code from Release, didn't I???" Gah!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:13 AM (WhJf8)

126 To this day, I have nightmares where I show up for class and the room is empty and I missed the final.


25+ years after graduating, I still have dreams of its the night before the final and I didn't realize I had the class.

Posted by: phreshone at December 30, 2013 09:13 AM (Pr6hk)

127 Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 02:13 PM (WhJf "What do you mean 'all the tax rates are calculating as 5%?'"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 09:14 AM (PYAXX)

128 I think it moved!

Posted by: George Costanza at December 30, 2013 09:15 AM (4dwhV)

129 Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 02:13 PM (WhJf "Mr. Bonhomme? Would you care to explain why all the refunds we process are being credited to your bank account?" "Errr... it works on my machine?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 09:15 AM (PYAXX)

130 25+ years after graduating, I still have dreams of its the night before the final and I didn't realize I had the class.

Posted by: phreshone at December 30, 2013 02:13 PM (Pr6hk)

Exactly!

FU recurring dream!  FU!

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:16 AM (x3YFz)

131 Kid has a black buddy who got a reserved spot at West Point back in September without taking a single AP class, without taking the SAT and without completing the application process. Was his Dad a MoH winner? Otherwise, unacceptable. BYU has a very friendly relationship with Hawaiians. I knew a kid freshman year who chose not to declare his race on the entrance forms. He was from Hawaii and had a Hawaiian sounding last name. He probably wouldn't have got in if they had known he is white. But they figured he was Hawaiian and gave him a full-ride. Still pisses me off, though I should get over it.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:16 AM (WhJf8)

132 The class is really called "Irony". If you figger that out, you pass.


Posted by: West at December 30, 2013 09:16 AM (1Rgee)

133 Will MSDNC's Joy Reid be teaching a class in Scriptural Interpretation?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 30, 2013 09:16 AM (7ObY1)

134 131 Negatory.

Posted by: NCKate at December 30, 2013 09:17 AM (Auy5s)

135 128 I think it moved!

Posted by: George Costanza at December 30, 2013 02:15 PM (4dwhV)

If the first thing that occurred to you after reading that was "shoot it again," raise your hand.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:17 AM (x3YFz)

136

My poor sister    just started this year as a professor at a very small school in the midwest; her first official professorship since getting her PhD back in May.   So she's pretty new.    Anyway, she    had a bunch of kids this past semester in       who didn't come to class, or didn't do any of the homework, or didn't turn in any of the papers, or didn't take the exams, or -- in many cases --    didn't do some combination of any of the above, and almost every single one of them came to her in the two weeks at the end of the semester to ask what they had to    do to pass the class, "Because I need to pass."      One kid actually asked her, "What do we have to do so that I don't fail this class?"   WE.   As if my sister    were somehow responsible for their lack of basic academic skills.    SHe had one student actually ask her AFTER all the final grades had been submitted to the Dean's office if    it would be okay for her to turn in all of her late work to get her grade changed.  

 

I told my sister that this is why I could never be a teacher.   Because my response    to all of them    would have been, "Well, you can buckle down and invent a time machine so that you can go BACK in time to the start of this semester, kick your earlier   self in the head and tell him/her to    follow the syllabus,    do the    homework,    turn in the writing assignments,   show up for the exams,   take advantage of the class time devoted to doing the work, come see me during my regular office hours, ask questions,     take notes,   do the readings,   come to class on time and every day, and just generally put in some kind of effort.   Because short of that, there's no way in Hell your passing this class, kiddo.   See you next year."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 09:17 AM (4df7R)

137 Are you sure we're talking about the university and not the lock company?

Posted by: AD at December 30, 2013 09:18 AM (7cqZK)

138

 To this day, I have nightmares where I show up for class and the room is empty and I missed the final.

No kidding. Nightmares.


 

Took me about five years out of college. Now I have nightmares about missing big bugs in released software.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 02:09 PM (WhJf

 

 

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Spent twelve years in the military.  Still have nightmares about showing up for morning formation with a piece of my uniform missing.

Posted by: Soona at December 30, 2013 09:19 AM (v44X4)

139 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 30, 2013 02:17 PM (4df7R) What did she do?

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 09:19 AM (EWsrI)

140 "Errr... it works on my machine?" I'm a software tester guy. My absolute favorite of two comments I get from Devs is this one. Easy response, "Well, we're not shipping your machine, are we?" The other one is when Devs ask me to explain HOW a bug could be happening, as they can't imagine a world in which it's possible. To which I respond, "I can send you the logs and point to the code segment that's failing, but I'm afraid it's up to you to figure out how it's happening. Here's a video of me reproducing the bug. Good luck."

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:19 AM (WhJf8)

141 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 30, 2013 02:17 PM (4df7R) In one of my classes, my prof addressed that the first day. "WE do not do anything to pass this class. YOU do things to pass this class. Here are the things you do: turn in your work on time. Attend class. Take and pass the tests. If you fail to do these things, you will fail this class. Asking me two weeks before the semester is done what 'we' need to do for you to pass this class is *not* one of those things you can do to pass the class."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at December 30, 2013 09:20 AM (PYAXX)

142 "What do we have to do so that I don't fail this class?" Register to take it next semester and try not to fuck up so bad in the future.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2013 09:20 AM (4dwhV)

143 136 My poor sister just started this year as a professor at a very small school in the midwest; her first official professorship since getting her PhD back in May. So she's pretty new. Anyway, she had abunch of kids this past semester in who didn't come to class, or didn't do any of the homework, or didn't turn in any of the papers, or didn't take the exams, or -- in many cases -- didn't do some combination of any of the above, and almost every single one of them came to her in the two weeks at the end of the semester to ask what they had to do to pass the class, "Because I need to pass." One kid actually asked her, "What do we have to do so that I don't fail this class?" WE. As if my sister were somehow responsible for their lack of basic academic skills. SHe had one student actually ask her AFTER all the final grades had been submitted to the Dean's office if it would be okay for her to turn in all of her late work to get her grade changed.


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 30, 2013 02:17 PM (4df7R)

Hah!  This happens to me constantly.  I've been teaching off and on at my university since 1998.  It never stops.  I've heard every excuse.  Tears.  Alligator tears, open sobbing.

I'm also a drill instructor.  I'm immune to their antics.  I just laugh. 

Tell your sister to just hammer them.  Be the troll under the bridge:  "none shall pass..."

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:21 AM (x3YFz)

144 Because short of that, there's no way in Hell your passing this class, kiddo. See you next year."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 30, 2013 02:17 PM (4df7R)

Oh and thanks for paying my paycheck while I didn't even have to put up with you to earn it. 


Posted by: sweet...ish at December 30, 2013 09:21 AM (bj+Nc)

145 124 Kid has a black buddy who got a reserved spot at West Point back in September without taking a single AP class, without taking the SAT and without completing the application process. Posted by: NCKate at December 30, 2013 02:12 PM (Auy5s) Ol' whitey and his oppression rears its ugly head.

Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2013 09:21 AM (fWAjv)

146 I bet the syllabus leads us to the conclusion that America needs to be humble and we all need to travel around the world apologizing for its sins.

Posted by: PJ at December 30, 2013 09:22 AM (ZWaLo)

147 BYU has a very friendly relationship with Hawaiians. I knew a kid freshman year who chose not to declare his race on the entrance forms. He was from Hawaii and had a Hawaiian sounding last name. He probably wouldn't have got in if they had known he is white. But they figured he was Hawaiian and gave him a full-ride. My law school, way back when I was in law school, decided that it needed more "diversity" and started a program (funded by the alumns) where the minority students not only got their tuition paid for but also got a monthy stipenend. That right, they got paid for being black or latinio or asian. My class was the first class to participate in such a wonderful plan to promote "diversity". Up until my class, no graduate of my law school had ever failed the bar exam. My year, 9 failed and yes, you can guess, who they were. Every single one of them was part of the "diversity" program. I went back about 6 months after graduating and ran into the dean of the law school. I congratulated him on blowing our school's perfect bar passage rate for the sake of diversity. He did not seem pleased with me. Told me that "diversity" was a wondeful thing and that the law profession needed more diversity. He particularly didn't enjoy my comment that perhaps we could start the diversity movement with his job.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 30, 2013 09:22 AM (OWjjx)

148 Will Brooks' degree in History be useful here? Is a degree in History ever useful to anyone but the rare successful author or Professor?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2013 01:52 PM (WhJf


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Well...I have TWO history degrees (from mere Midwestern land-grant schools) and I've built a decent-paying career and even use my education in my work. But yeah, not really a plan to wager on and go into massive debt over...


Will Trouser-Boy's history degree be useful? Probably not, but that's because he's a fool and a tool rather than there being anything wrong with historical knowledge.

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 30, 2013 09:22 AM (AiYlm)

149 Apropos of nothing, comment #57 reminded me of this:

David Brooks was very distraught at the fact that he had not had a date or any sex in quite some time.

He was afraid he might have something wrong with him, so he decided to seek the medical expertise of a sex therapist. His doctor recommended that he see Dr. Chang, the well-known Chinese sex therapist, so he went to see him.

Upon entering the examination room, Dr. Chang said, "OK, take off all you crose." The man did as she was told. "Now, get down and craw reery, reery fass to odder side of room." Again, the man did as he was instructed. Dr. Chang then said, "OK, now craw reery, reery fass back to me." So he did.

Dr. Chang shook his head slowly and said, "Your probrem vewy bad. You haf Ed Zachary Disease. Worse case I ever see. Dat why you not haf sex or dates."

Worried, Dvaid Brooks asked anxiously, "Oh my God, Dr. Chang, what is Ed Zachary Disease?"

Dr. Chang looked the man in the eye and replied, "Ed Zachary Disease is when your face rook Ed Zachary rike your ass."
==================

I denounce myself in advance.

Posted by: physics geek at December 30, 2013 09:23 AM (MT22W)

150 Tell your sister to just hammer them. Be the troll under the bridge: "none shall pass..." Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 02:21 PM (x3YFz) For shits and giggles dress up as Gandalf and yell "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"

Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2013 09:23 AM (fWAjv)

151 What did she do?

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2013 02:19 PM (EWsrI)

 

She told the girl no,     and    told most of the other kids that they could turn their stuff in     to get feedback for later improvement,    but it wouldn't    improve    their grade.     

 

This was a remedial english comp class.    Most of their assignments were along the lines of, "Write    a paragraph that includes a thesis statement, three supporting statements, and a conclusion."  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 09:23 AM (4df7R)

152 >>25+ years after graduating, I still have dreams of its the night before the final and I didn't realize I had the class. I had a slightly different reality. I had to take a math course as part of my major. The course was unbelievably easy, so easy I attended the first class, the mid-term and the final and that was it. As the prof was handing out the final he looked at me and said "Do I know you?". I replied "I don't see how you would.". That was the entirety of our conversation for the semester.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2013 09:24 AM (g1DWB)

153 Here are the things you do: turn in your work on time. Attend class. Take and pass the tests. If you fail to do these things, you will fail this class. I took issue with this for some of my college classes. In one (Physics), the tests mirrored information in the online practice exams, but was not covered, explained, mentioned, or alluded to in class. Blech. In the other (CS class), we covered C++ language features on the last day, that we needed to know in the second week to complete the homework. Other features we needed to complete later projects were never covered.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:24 AM (WhJf8)

154 Welcome to the Ivy League: Attending a stupid, moralizing "class" taught by an uncredentialed celebrity that serves no useful purpose whatsoever. Why does Yale even bother with the pretense? Just accept people, make them pay a couple of hundred thou and then give them a diploma.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 30, 2013 09:25 AM (xSegX)

155 Well...I have TWO history degrees (from mere Midwestern land-grant schools) and I've built a decent-paying career and even use my education in my work. But yeah, not really a plan to wager on and go into massive debt over...
Will Trouser-Boy's history degree be useful? Probably not, but that's because he's a fool and a tool rather than there being anything wrong with historical knowledge.

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 30, 2013 02:22 PM (AiYlm)

Don't get me wrong.  I devoured the books by Daniel Pipes, Robert O'Connell, M. Stanton Evans... exceptional.

Just... no one really pays you to do it is the problem, and that fact where most people don't even bother to care about history.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:27 AM (x3YFz)

156 Tell your sister to just hammer them. Be the troll under the bridge: "none shall pass..."

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 02:21 PM (x3YFz)

 

I have!   But she's such a sweetheart.   And since this was her first year teaching she didn't want to up and fail the WHOLE class.   She was definitely getting more jaded toward the end, though.  I think she'll    get stricter this spring semester.

 

 


For shits and giggles dress up as Gandalf and yell "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"

Posted by: RWC at December 30, 2013 02:23 PM (fWAjv)

 

HAH!  You laugh, and yet this is the kind of stuff I told her she should do, just     to   make life more bearable for herself.       It's not like she didn't get up in front of the class EVERY SINGLE DAY,  write it out on the board   EVERY SINGLE DAY,    and say,   "This, this and this are due, and if you don't turn them in, you will fail."   Because she did.  And they just never paid attention.   So if course it's HER fault that she's "giving" them a failing grade, instead of   it being THEIR fault for "earning" that failing grade.   Stupid, self-entitled brats.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 09:27 AM (4df7R)

157 As far as the subject, David Brooks is the perfect choice to teach a course on humility. He has a lot to be humble about.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 30, 2013 09:27 AM (xSegX)

158 Why does Yale even bother with the pretense? Just accept people, make them pay a couple of hundred thou and then give them a diploma. If you don't come to class, you can't be indoctrinated.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 30, 2013 09:28 AM (OWjjx)

159 That's ok. When I was at Harvard, we had Elliot Spitzer come and give the annual lecture at the Edmond J. Safra Foundation Center for Ethics.

Posted by: anon at December 30, 2013 09:28 AM (rsPKs)

160 Tuition at Yale for undergrads is $42,300 per year plus $3,300 for books and fees. Let's assume a student get 24 hours of classes for the $46,600. Let's peg Humility as a 3 hour course, so for $5800, your Special Snowflake can learn about Humility OR he/she/? can work in a soup kitchen for free.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 30, 2013 09:28 AM (1GtVi)

161 Has ANYTHING good come out of Yale in the last, oh, seventy-five years? Or more?

Posted by: chiefjaybob at December 30, 2013 09:29 AM (MRfgd)

162 This isn't the first time he's taught a college course, by the way. His academic credentials: University of Chicago (A.B. 1983) Academia is a joke. It's time to kill the humanities. Kill 'em dead.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 30, 2013 09:29 AM (xSegX)

163 Tuition at Yale for undergrads is $42,300 per year plus $3,300 for books and fees. Let's assume a student get 24 hours of classes for the $46,600. Let's peg Humility as a 3 hour course, so for $5800, your Special Snowflake can learn about Humility OR he/she/? can work in a soup kitchen for free.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 30, 2013 02:28 PM (1GtVi)

 

 

And probably eat at that same soup kitchen, because room and board    has got to be sky high    on and around the Yale campus.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 09:30 AM (4df7R)

164 Has ANYTHING good come out of Yale in the last, oh, seventy-five years? Or more? President Bush the Elder. Not exactly the greatest President we have ever had....but compared to Obama.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 30, 2013 09:30 AM (OWjjx)

165 EVERY SINGLE DAY, write it out on the board EVERY SINGLE DAY, and say, "This, this and this are due, and if you don't turn them in, you will fail." Because she did. And they just never paid attention. So if course it's HER fault that she's "giving" them a failing grade, instead of it being THEIR fault for "earning" that failing grade. Stupid, self-entitled brats.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 30, 2013 02:27 PM (4df7R)

Yup.

You learn that no matter how many times you throw them a rope, some idiot is going to make a noose out of it.
Natural selection in action.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:30 AM (x3YFz)

166 Will Trouser-Boy's history degree be useful? Probably not, but that's because he's a fool and a tool rather than there being anything wrong with historical knowledge.

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 30, 2013 02:22 PM (AiYlm)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

Had a discussion with some recently graduated HS students about the subjects they took.  They started talking  about their history classes and started asking themselves what their history will look like.  I told them to forget about it.   By the way it's being re-written or erased, no one will know any of you existed.

Posted by: Soona at December 30, 2013 09:30 AM (v44X4)

167 Academia is a joke. It's time to kill the humanities. Kill 'em dead.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 30, 2013 02:29 PM (xSegX)

 

No.    What it IS time to do is   stop making college the default post-high school destination for everyone's child and turn it BACK into a place where students interested in expanding their knowledge can go to do so.    And that includes the humanities.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at December 30, 2013 09:32 AM (4df7R)

168 An actual real time nood

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 30, 2013 09:33 AM (X+nFp)

169 that serves no useful purpose whatsoever.

On that, I disagree.  If anything, the problem with this class is that it's merely an elective.  It goes against the entire ethos of top schools nowadays.  It should be part of the core curriculum and assigned in the freshman year.

If this class doesn't have auditorium sized seating and doesn't include "The Best and the Brightest" as required reading, Yale is wasting its time.

Posted by: AD at December 30, 2013 09:33 AM (7cqZK)

170 No. What it IS time to do is stop making college the default post-high school destination for everyone's child and turn it BACK into a place where students interested in expanding their knowledge can go to do so. And that includes the humanities.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 30, 2013 02:32 PM (4df7R)

I hate the humanities, but it's based on a Law and Literature class I took.  Jacked up my 4.0 and got a D because I didn't write about how gay Billy Budd was.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:34 AM (x3YFz)

171 The comments above about teaching made me chuckle, as I've been an adjunct professor for more than 13 years at a local college and had to deal with self-entitled layabouts more than I care to remember. Once, I went to the dean because a student threatened me with legal action if I didn't "adjust" her grade. The dean asked me the following:

1) Did your syllabus clearly explain what was required of her?
2) Did you reiterate what your syllabus stated?
3) Did you grade and hand back assignments in a timely fashion?
4) How was the students attendance?
5) What was the quality of her work?

I keep good documentation and showed it to him. He simply laughed and said that the university would back me 100%.

One other time, I had a student call me at home the day after final grades went out.
Him: "I got a 'B' on the mid-term and an 'A' on the final. Why did I receive a 'C' in the class?"

Me: "Did you hand in all of your assignments?" (For the record, he failed to hand in half of them and they counted for 30% of the final grade)

Him: "Umm, no, not really."

Me: "Well there you go. If you'd like, I will be glad to sit down with you and the dean to go over all of your graded work to recalculate your final grade."

--> Note: If I had wanted to be a dick, I could have given him a 'D', but I will admit to not wanting him back in the class so gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Him: "No, that's okay." (apparently, he could work a calculator just as well as I could)

Posted by: physics geek at December 30, 2013 09:35 AM (MT22W)

172 #163...Room and board was $7150 and $5,850 respectively, bringing a year at Yale with no scholarships to $58,600

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at December 30, 2013 09:35 AM (1GtVi)

173 EVERY SINGLE DAY, write it out on the board EVERY SINGLE DAY, and say, "This, this and this are due, and if you don't turn them in, you will fail." Because she did. And they just never paid attention. One Prof told us that "10% would fail to put their name on the assignment. My observation is this number is consistent. Don't be part of the 10%. Put your name on your assignment. Don't wait, do it now." One week later: "As I warned you, 10% didn't put their name on the assignment."

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 30, 2013 09:36 AM (WhJf8)

174 It should be part of the core curriculum and assigned in the freshman year.

Oh wait, that's right, Yale hasn't had a core curriculum in decades.  That's part of the problem.

Posted by: AD at December 30, 2013 09:37 AM (7cqZK)

175 Don't get me wrong. I devoured the books by Daniel Pipes, Robert O'Connell, M. Stanton Evans... exceptional.

Just... no one really pays you to do it is the problem, and that fact where most people don't even bother to care about history.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 02:27 PM (x3YFz)


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Yep. Unless you join the Cult of Academia or are independently wealthy, writing historical masterpieces isn't really a livelihood. But there are ways in the world for a history major...again, outside of academia. Knowing how to think critically and do good research can have all sorts of applications.

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 30, 2013 09:40 AM (AiYlm)

176 Can I substitute 3 100-Level Courses in Philosophy and Political Science instead?  They are just as worthless.  I'm pretty sure. And where are my Pills?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 30, 2013 09:42 AM (fA3u5)

177 As an undergrad, I was working two jobs and carrying a full academic load (18 credits, with 2 or 3 labs). I had a class in thermodynamics where the final was in two parts, each taking 3-4 hours.  The professor caught me after I finished the second half of the test, told me that he had been grading the first half  of the test and I had scored the highest in the class - "That's pretty good for someone who slept through he course".

He was an OK guy, and taught a pretty good course.


Posted by: West at December 30, 2013 09:44 AM (1Rgee)

178 Yum. Arby's beef and cheddar paired with Sierra Nevada Torpedo.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 30, 2013 09:44 AM (ZshNr)

179 Had a discussion with some recently graduated HS students about the subjects they took. They started talking about their history classes and started asking themselves what their history will look like. I told them to forget about it. By the way it's being re-written or erased, no one will know any of you existed.

Posted by: Soona at December 30, 2013 02:30 PM (v44X4)


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In the future, only Common Core-approved histories will be published, all featuring Barack H. Obama as the wise, benevolent and all-knowing narrator, laying out the true People's History for the Common Good. All other historical writings and artifacts will be destroyed as accessories to hate-crime.

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 30, 2013 09:45 AM (AiYlm)

180
--> Note: If I had wanted to be a dick, I could have given him a 'D', but I will admit to not wanting him back in the class so gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Him: "No, that's okay." (apparently, he could work a calculator just as well as I could)

Posted by: physics geek at December 30, 2013 02:35 PM (MT22W)

Heh.  I don't hand out many Ds either.  Most of those students drop by mid semester.

Posted by: tangonine at December 30, 2013 09:48 AM (x3YFz)

181 Does this help the brown people at all?  No?  Then who cares?

Posted by: qestionmann at December 30, 2013 09:55 AM (TS9aB)

182 A prof friend of mine said he would tell frantic students who just received their failing grade and were hysterical about "what they should do."  Accept your F with dignity, he would tell them.

Posted by: PJ at December 30, 2013 10:03 AM (ZWaLo)

183 Are you sure that prerequisite isn't Advanced Trouser Bulge appreciation 201?

Posted by: Shifty1 at December 30, 2013 10:03 AM (HzZR2)

184 17th century English poetry is fine. It's not necessarily useless to know it or teach it. If fact, if you read someone like George Herbert a person might learn a lot about humility. However, Herbert would not define sin as "being out of alignment with my values" . Furthermore, would Yale students even take a course where sin in mentioned if it wasn't the "sins" of not recycling or being a conservative?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2013 10:09 AM (BC6cY)

185 "No. What it IS time to do is stop making college the default post-high school destination for everyone's child and turn it BACK into a place where students interested in expanding their knowledge can go to do so. And that includes the humanities."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2013 10:10 AM (BC6cY)

186 Whoops; meant to quote MWR and say that is a great quote. I find the discussions about what is "useless: rather depressing. Knowing about literature has been a wonderful thing in my life. Throw humanities in the trash? Sounds more than a little extreme to me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 30, 2013 10:13 AM (BC6cY)

187 "I'm humble. I learned it at Yale." Words said and logic acquired by ... no one ever. And from Brooks? Doubly unsaid and unacquired.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 30, 2013 11:08 AM (eHIJJ)

188 I thought any class Mz. Brooks would teach would be more along the lines of "Playing Bottom To Celebrity Wimps You Worship" ...

Posted by: eureka! at December 30, 2013 12:05 PM (f5hAT)

189 Brooks is a bit of a shirt lifter, so I am sure he is quite giddy to play the rolley polley bottom to a young strapping Yale man-child or two.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at December 30, 2013 05:52 PM (2/oBD)

190 They should let him teach a class on Dry Cleaning. He's an expert on pant creases.

Posted by: nadadhimmi at December 30, 2013 06:51 PM (XsNPW)

191 If the last five years haven't taught Brooks some humility, he's hopeless. ...granted, the smart money's on "hopeless".

Posted by: Andrew S. at December 30, 2013 10:53 PM (FXZJg)

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