February 29, 2016

Cruz Targets Trump on Previous Support of Gun Bans -- And Marco Rubio Too
— Ace

As regards Trump, it's pretty easy to find his previous support (when he wasn't running for president and didn't have to claim things like that he's super into the Bible) for gun control.

Just a rich buffet of gun-grabbiness.


Dems and Reps are both wrong on guns

It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000

For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check

I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000

Of course he supported the very reasonable ban on assault weapons. Because that's what people without any sort of conservative ideology do -- they adopt the easy, path-of-least-resistance claims of the left.

But as for Marco Rubio -- this is a new one on me.

But Cruz is putting Rubio's bona fides into question.

"I will not compromise your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms," the U.S. senator from Texas told supporters. "You know, it's worth noting my two leading competitors have both previously supported banning firearms. Donald Trump supported Bill Clinton's nationwide ban on many of the most popular firearms in America, and Marco Rubio, when he was on the city council in West Miami, voted to ban firearms in public parks. Let me tell you this: There is no universe in which I would ever support banning guns because I believe in the Second Amendment."

Cruz's criticism of Rubio centers on a resolution from 1999 that urged the Florida Legislature "to prohibit firearms in county or municipal parks, recreational facilities, or playgrounds, which are locations where children frequently congregate." With Rubio present, the West Miami City Commission unanimously approved the resolution, according to minutes from its March 3, 1999, meeting.

Maybe not the worst sort of gun-grabby position, but I'm interested to hear Rubio either defend this or explain how he "evolved."

A former NRA president says Rubio was no friend to gun rights, and while he publicly talked up a pro-gun-rights bill to permit guns in motor vehicles, behind the scenes he was working to subvert it.

According to Politico, Hammer described Rubio as a man who talked pro-gun when the cameras were rolling but worked in ways that hurt the bill's chances of passage behind the scenes. Hammer said, "He has not been a friend to gun owners. He tried to cover himself by voting for it after doing everything he could to work against it. He plays to an audience. We will make sure our members know."

The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act" passed the legislature in 2008--during Rubio's tenure as Florida House Speaker--and was signed into law by Governor Charlie Crist. Rubio voted for the measure, yet just over a year after it was signed, Hammer reflected on the effort it took to get the bill passed and said, "[Rubio] was a big disappointment to us when he was the speaker. He talked the talk, but he didn’t walk the walk,"according to the Tampa Bay Times.

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1 Yeah new thread

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 11:57 AM (fizMZ)

2 Oooh, Scary guns.

Posted by: SMFH at February 29, 2016 11:58 AM (rlfds)

3 A Trump Administration will be based entirely on common-sense measures.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 29, 2016 11:58 AM (8ZskC)

4 I'm not getting the others, let them figure it out themselves this time.

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 11:58 AM (fizMZ)

5 538 >>>>Just trying to think of an historical figure that I can compare to Trump, and he kind of reminds me a little of Andrew Jackson. P.T. Barnum Posted by: Aviator at February 29, 2016 04:55 PM (c7vUv) ***** The Kingfish --North Eastern style.

Posted by: President Kim Kardashian Yeezy typing through the spacetime continuum at February 29, 2016 11:59 AM (mcm0N)

6 Another opportunity to see if we can't get a real gun thread soon

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 11:59 AM (fizMZ)

7 Where kids play. Depends who he is talking about. Law enforcement?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 29, 2016 11:59 AM (qCMvj)

8 Let's see how long it takes the Trumpaulians to find us.

Posted by: Aviator at February 29, 2016 12:00 PM (c7vUv)

9 Guns? Guns! Yeah, I'm pro-guns!

Posted by: Mar-A-Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:00 PM (TxJGV)

10 Cruz is not afraid to take the gloves off. Usually the politicians keep the dirt hidden. Cruz digs them all up and broadcasts them. Good for him. It is because Rubio and Trump have barely anything to say about Cruz's conservative bonafides.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 29, 2016 12:00 PM (qCMvj)

11 The "high rate" of gun crime (whatever that is) is notable for the countries that are NOT included on the list. Countries like Russia, China, most of South America, most of Central America, Pakistan, Nigeria and about 70 other countries. Over half of the world's population is not included in these. Wonder why that's never mentioned?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at February 29, 2016 12:00 PM (O4NI/)

12 I own a fully automatic assault ski boat.

Posted by: Mar-A-Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:00 PM (TxJGV)

13 Well, I guess 5 comments.

Posted by: Aviator at February 29, 2016 12:01 PM (c7vUv)

14 Cruz's criticism of Rubio centers on a resolution from 1999 that urged the Florida Legislature "to prohibit firearms in county or municipal parks, recreational facilities, or playgrounds, which are locations where children frequently congregate." There would have to be an exemption for Hairy Reed's basement.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 29, 2016 12:01 PM (8ZskC)

15 What about the shoulder things that go up?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 29, 2016 12:01 PM (SiyyF)

16 Justice Scalia is gone.   The second amendment will be buried next to him.

Posted by: simplemind at February 29, 2016 12:02 PM (JTwsP)

17 5 Cruz is done for. Cruz will not be a nominee. Just accept this real, actual, reality-based fact and go on with your life, ace. Failing to do so timely, will put you in a genuine risk of suicide. Posted by: Ibrahim Awad Saddiq Majad al-Badri at February 29, 2016 04:59 PM (vClpM) --- Yeah, I'm going to listen to anyone with the leader of ISIS' nic.

Posted by: SMFH at February 29, 2016 12:02 PM (rlfds)

18 Marco Rubio seems very interested in 'The Thing That Goes Up'.

Posted by: Mr. Wednesday Night at February 29, 2016 12:02 PM (Ui7Rt)

19 Trump is probably the laziest candidate ever. He doesn't seem to have done any opposition research at all on any of the other candidates.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 12:02 PM (2x3L+)

20 Failing to do so timely, will put you in a genuine risk of suicide. Just stop the insulting nonsense.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 29, 2016 12:02 PM (w4NZ8)

21 All of this should have come out a long time ago but Cruz was all too happy to suck up to Trump and make him look credible to conservatives. Here's Trump advocating rounding up "assault weapons" and crickets. Even a federal waiting period is something Obama could only dream about.

Posted by: Branson at February 29, 2016 12:02 PM (MOVsh)

22 Define "assault weapons"?

Posted by: buckeye at February 29, 2016 12:02 PM (1wofY)

23 updated with additional information about rubes' position on guns.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:03 PM (dciA+)

24 I love guns so much that I sometimes take mine to the park just to shoot at the crows on the monkey bars.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:03 PM (8ZskC)

25 As goes the second amendment, so goes freedom

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 29, 2016 12:03 PM (Qvgg/)

26 Just heard a guest on Medved show say that Trump is an atheist who should not spend as much as one hour in the White House. So Trump is an atheist, fascist, nazi, KKK man and a gun grabber as well as an exploiter of labor. How many more?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 29, 2016 12:03 PM (FkBIv)

27 Once I got my fancy fishing boat I decided I needed to be well armed to repel boarding pirates.

Posted by: Marco at February 29, 2016 12:03 PM (c7vUv)

28 FWIW, in VA we have the Virginia Citizen's Defense League. Every election season they send out questionnaires to the major candidates via a vis gun rights. Trump returned his, filled out Very Pro Gun. Cruz returned his, also filled out Pro Gun. Rubio has not returned his as of this writing.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 29, 2016 12:03 PM (16TRA)

29 Cause when Aqualung grabs your daughter in the park, you don't want to have a gun to dispatch him to his Maker.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 12:04 PM (1ijHg)

30 So Trump is an atheist, fascist, nazi, KKK man and a gun grabber as well as an exploiter of labor. How many more? Thing is We really don't know where Trump stands on most things....

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 12:04 PM (/dSsq)

31 Yeah, I'm going to listen to anyone with the leader of ISIS' nic.

Posted by: SMFH at February 29, 2016 05:02 PM (rlfds)


He's hard to understand w/that dick in his mouth.

Posted by: BignJames at February 29, 2016 12:04 PM (HtUkt)

32 Link for the above: http://tinyurl.com/c53hytw

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at February 29, 2016 12:04 PM (O4NI/)

33 Fishing boat? I stopped fishing years ago. Now I shoot at the fish with an AR-15.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:04 PM (8ZskC)

34 So Donald Trump's a gun-grabbing immigrant-loving white supremacist liberal? Thanks for clearing that up. Ooh atheist! Hadn't heard that one, Bertrand, I'm adding it to the pile.

Posted by: trev006 at February 29, 2016 12:05 PM (MEHba)

35 If I had the stamina, I'd love to go through what other things Rubio did while a city commissioner and state legislator. It'd be fun to construct a timeline of Cruz's career parallel to Rubio's. Hilarity would ensue, I'm sure, when we found that while Cruz was defending gun rights before the Supreme Court, Cruz was voting on new street lamps or naming parks or something.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:05 PM (t5zYU)

36 He's hard to understand w/that dick in his mouth. Posted by: BignJames Mmph phrmph.

Posted by: Lindsay Graham at February 29, 2016 12:05 PM (SiyyF)

37 Is this where we stroke our gun-dicks?

Remember the railing against the GOPe here over the Iran deal? Over TPA/TPP?

Good times. Good times.

Guess who voted for both?

Hint: It wasn't some private citizen from the State of N.Y.


And on topic of gunbaniness, anyone remember the UN Arms treaty?

Here's the Gun Owners of America explaining how TPP could contain all sorts of UN Arms Treaty goodness.

https://www.gunowners.org/alert5072015.htm


Full disclosure:  GOA has endorsed Cruz last year, and then again reiterated it a few days ago.

https://www.gunowners.org/alertcruz02252016.htm

Apparently the TPA vote is not as pivotal as they first intimated.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 12:05 PM (3dOE/)

38 Cause when Aqualung grabs your daughter in the park, you don't want to have a gun to dispatch him to his Maker.

Do you still remember
December's foggy freeze?
When the bullets pumped into your knees
Were screaming agony?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 29, 2016 12:06 PM (YJmuy)

39

Thing is We really don't know where Trump stands on most things....

 

We know what Dondi says, we don't know what he would do.

We know what Cruz says, we tend to believe him, we don't know what he will be able to do

 

In a nutshell, we don't really know squat. We just think we do because, feels.

Posted by: simplemind at February 29, 2016 12:06 PM (JTwsP)

40 Rubio was encouraging it just so it would be watered down later. Can't you understand he is playing 5th dimensional chess?

Posted by: WOPR at February 29, 2016 12:06 PM (LTDSy)

41 How did We/They manage to screw up this election ?

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 12:06 PM (/dSsq)

42 16 Justice Scalia is gone. The second amendment Bill Of Rights will be buried next to him.

Posted by: Mar-A-Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:06 PM (TxJGV)

43 How many more? Well, I wasn't too crazy about him tweeting a quote by Mussolini who was a fascist, but I don't think he's a member of the KKK andIi don't know where he stands on guns. I think he's probably an Agnostic who think Jesus was a sorta cool dude.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 29, 2016 12:06 PM (w4NZ8)

44 Rubio has not returned his as of this writing. Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 29, 2016 05:03 PM (16TRA) Waiting for the Party Elders to tell him how to think, no doubt.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 12:06 PM (s5o+q)

45 Ooh atheist! Hadn't heard that one, Bertrand, I'm adding it to the pile. Posted by: trev006 at February 29, 2016 05:05 PM (MEHba) Is this even debatable? Do you honestly want to debate that Trump has a religious bone in his body?

Posted by: AD at February 29, 2016 12:07 PM (QWY55)

46 So Trump is an atheist, fascist, nazi, KKK man and a gun grabber as well as an exploiter of labor. How many more?

At least he's not Canadian.

Posted by: Mortimer at February 29, 2016 12:07 PM (vgERT)

47 What was Rubio doing while Ted Cruz was defending the sovereignty of Texas before the U.S. Supremee Court?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 12:07 PM (1ijHg)

48 If Trump builds a wall he's welcome to come personally seize any of the firearms he doesn't think it's safe for me to own.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 29, 2016 12:07 PM (kf2iZ)

49 the muslim nic guy is very close to a ban. tired of him saying the same thing -- insult, get on the team. fuck you, idiot.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:07 PM (dciA+)

50 Hilarity would ensue, I'm sure, when we found that while Cruz was defending gun rights before the Supreme Court, Cruz was voting on new street lamps or naming parks or something. --- Cruz, Rubio... they all look them same! j/k

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:07 PM (t5zYU)

51 I was not going to vote in the Presidential primary or the general election this year.  But I listened to something today that made me change my mind.  So I'm looking at the candidates, really for the first time, as an actual voter.  What a mess.     Somebody convince me of some one worthy of the office.  I'm thinking maybe that's Cruz. I dunno.  They all seem so ...... what's the word?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at February 29, 2016 12:08 PM (dFi94)

52 So let's review

Cruz - Solid on guns, solid on amnesty, flip-flopper on H1B's
Rubio - Mostly (but not perfectly) solid on guns, flip-flopper on amnesty, flip-flopper on H1B's
Trump - Flip-flopper on everything

So yeah, let's go with the Trumpster!!!!!!

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 29, 2016 12:08 PM (lVU49)

53 ok y'all keep fighting the good fight, I'm out.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at February 29, 2016 12:08 PM (xuouz)

54 I saw a ghost sighting of MUMR.

Kind of fun really.

Now you see him.  Now you don't.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 12:08 PM (1ijHg)

55 What a mess. Somebody convince me of some one worthy of the office. I'm thinking maybe that's Cruz. I dunno. They all seem so ...... what's the word? Me too grammie....

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 12:08 PM (/dSsq)

56 33 Fishing boat? I stopped fishing years ago. Now I shoot at the fish with an AR-15. -----/--------- Piker. I kill flies with a .45

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:08 PM (kTF2Z)

57 I get it.

We're being fooled.  We are rubes.  Mouth-breathing, McDonalds-eating, non college educated hicks.  We suck and our shit is all retarded.

Ok.  Thanks.

Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 12:08 PM (e7T6D)

58 According to Politico, Hammer described Rubio as a man who talked pro-gun when the cameras were rolling but worked in ways that hurt the bill's chances of passage behind the scenes. Hammer said, "He has not been a friend to gun owners. He tried to cover himself by voting for it after doing everything he could to work against it. He plays to an audience. We will make sure our members know." Wait, Rubio talking out of both sides of his mouth? That doesn't sound at all like him.

Posted by: buzzion at February 29, 2016 12:09 PM (z/Ubi)

59 Ace, you're a more patient guy than I am.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 29, 2016 12:09 PM (Qvgg/)

60 If Trump builds a wall he's welcome to come personally seize any of the firearms he doesn't think it's safe for me to own. Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 29, 2016 05:07 PM (kf2iZ) ********* ?

Posted by: President Kim Kardashian Yeezy typing through the spacetime continuum at February 29, 2016 12:10 PM (mcm0N)

61 Fucker would have been banned pronto, ace. Especially with that nic.

Posted by: SMFH at February 29, 2016 12:10 PM (rlfds)

62 Trump has long had a concealed carry permit in NY and reportedly uses it.

I just don't think he is soft on 2A issues.

Posted by: cool breeze at February 29, 2016 12:10 PM (ckvus)

63 >>>> the muslim nic guy is very close to a ban. tired of him saying the same thing -- insult, get on the team. fuck you, idiot. Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 05:07 PM (dciA+) ------ Ace, you have the patience of Job.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 12:10 PM (2x3L+)

64 "Remember how he took Perry's flameout" Wait...Perry's out???

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:10 PM (WnCSK)

65 /Looks at last three threads...

Anti Trump.... anti Trump.... anti Trump.....
 
 
Is this like Beetlejuice where if you say it three times, he appears?

 
 

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 29, 2016 12:10 PM (RK8AH)

66 What was Rubio doing while Ted Cruz was defending the sovereignty of Texas before the U.S. Supremee Court? Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 05:07 PM (1ijHg) I was getting me a tasty Pina Colada Sno-Cone. *snaps fingers*

Posted by: Mario Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:10 PM (0cMkb)

67 Wait, Rubio talking out of both sides of his mouth? That doesn't sound at all like him. Posted by: buzzion I've got stereo surround-sound with each speaker independently wired, so I can talk out of every side.

Posted by: Dondi Viti Vici at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (SiyyF)

68 That he is, Vashta.

Posted by: SMFH at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (rlfds)

69 Ah, gun free zones. Where 99.9% of mass shootings occur.

Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (rrG3v)

70 They all seem so ...... what's the word? Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree -- What issue is most important to you? That's what you should vote on, imho.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (t5zYU)

71 62 A friendly reminder: ace is a hypocritical, whiny, flouncy little bitch who can't take the thought of "his guy" not winning. Really? Sounds like a whole lot of People here, but I don't see it in Ace... And No I'm not kissing up....

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (/dSsq)

72 What is this? Try My Best to Support Cruz Day?

Posted by: greg at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (QVLa0)

73 >>>Rubio - Mostly (but not perfectly) solid on guns, flip-flopper on amnesty, flip-flopper on H1B's Rubio has not flip-flopped on amnesty or H1B's; he still has the same position he always did. He just talks the tough side of things for his GOP audiences. He's pro-amnesty. Period. He still supports a pathway to citizenship and says we "can't" deport any of the illegals. He still wants to keep DACA in force (his new position is that he won't renew it), and still thinks it's a terrible thing to kick out illegals.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (dciA+)

74
Man, that Brit Hume has gone totally to the dark side, said Hillary email scandal no big deal.

This country is so boned.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (ODxAs)

75 47 At least he's not Canadian. Posted by: Mortimer at February 29, 2016 05:07 PM (vgERT) ---------------------------------------------- But do we really know this? Birthplace "Queens" could refer to lots of places in Canadia.

Posted by: Mar-A-Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (TxJGV)

76 How did We/They manage to screw up this election ? Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 05:06 PM (/dSsq) The descent into the abyss is always slow and gradual at first, and so it has been with us. Reagan. GHW Bush (Here it begins). Dole. (WTF?) GW Bush ("compassionate conservatism") John McCain Mitt Romney (Arguably, McCain was rock-bottom and Romney was something of a slight recovery, but not nearly enough and possibly too late.) And so, here we are.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (s5o+q)

77 I don't give a sheet. I do agree with the ICE guy at the Trump rally in Alabama: Just don't vote for Rubio, America. He got to DC and did nothing. Nada. Has missed, oh, 68% of his little security meetings, etc. He is a Cuban Baroque, but shorter and not as skinny. ChristBlinky 2016

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 29, 2016 12:11 PM (wAMRL)

78 Posted by: Juicer at February 29, 2016 05:10 PM (KH7jg) You seem nice. LOL!

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:12 PM (t5zYU)

79 Posted by: Juicer at February 29, 2016 05:10 PM (KH7jg) It's really not cool to insult the owner of the website. If you wanted to disagree in a reasonable manner about what he posted-that's o.k I'm sure. Your post here wan't it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 29, 2016 12:12 PM (w4NZ8)

80 In other news, I witnessed Hillary Clinton briefly stop by the Old South Church in Boston today. She went on about all her wedge issues, trying to play the class warrior.

Posted by: greg at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (QVLa0)

81 At least Hillary is consistent?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (FkBIv)

82 " At least Hillary is consistent? " Since when????

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (WnCSK)

83 83 In other news, I witnessed Hillary Clinton briefly stop by the Old South Church in Boston today. She went on about all her wedge issues, trying to play the class warrior. Did She have Her walker?

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (/dSsq)

84 Got anything this decade? How about something after 9-11? -- Guess who was a registered Democrat after 9/11. Donald's wiring is not like normal Americans.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (t5zYU)

85 But do we really know this? Birthplace "Queens" could refer to lots of places in Canadia. Posted by: Mar-A-Rubio I hang around Queens a lot.

Posted by: Lindsay Graham at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (SiyyF)

86 He's pro-amnesty. Period. He still supports a pathway to citizenship and says we "can't" deport any of the illegals. He still wants to keep DACA in force (his new position is that he won't renew it), and still thinks it's a terrible thing to kick out illegals. Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 05:11 PM (dciA+) The position that he won't renew it is probably predicated on Congress enacting it via the DREAM Act which Rubio tried to get going in 2012 before Obama sidestepped around him and did DACA.

Posted by: buzzion at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (z/Ubi)

87 "Maybe not the worst sort of gun-grabby position, but I'm interested to hear Rubio either defend this or explain how he 'evolved.'"

The Rube's got more to defend.

Breitbart has a piece from last year in which Rubio was greasily sucking up to the Black Lives Matter bunch, and saying that blacks have legitimate beefs with law enforcement.

Going further, Rubio cited an un-named friend of his who, Rubio claims, had been pulled over by the cops "in the last eighteen months eight to nine different times. Never got a ticket for being stopped -- just stopped."

A "friend", huh? Why isn't that "friend" coming forward to the media with this amazing story? The media, who could then query the police agencies in question? This is starting to smell a lot like Cory Booker and his invisible, imaginary street "friend" T-Bone.

http://tinyurl.com/jax5poq

Posted by: torquewrench at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (noWW6)

88 When Cruz supporters finally wake up to the fact that he has no path to the nomination, could you at least consider convincing him to cozy up to and endorse Trump in exchange for a nomination to the Supreme Court? 

That is his true calling, he would be infinitely more effective there than in the Senate, or as a primary delegate and money-suck, and it would avoid the "natural born citizen" issue that you have to know the media would play to the nines to sow FUD with the electorate.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 12:13 PM (3dOE/)

89 I saw a ghost sighting of MUMR. Kind of fun really. Now you see him. Now you don't. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 05:08 PM (1ijHg) "Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasn't there, He wasn't there again today Oh, how I wish he'd go away."

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (s5o+q)

90 lol MUMR chastising folks. Too funny.

Posted by: SMFH at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (rlfds)

91 Even a federal waiting period is something Obama could only dream about. Posted by: Branson at February 29, 2016 05:02 PM (MOVsh) The NRA was able to have the federal waiting period idea removed and replaced with the ATF data base search that all FFL dealers use today when reviewing long gun applications for purchase and local LEO departments use when evaluating either a handgun purchase permit or a CCW application. Google NRA The Truth about Background Checks for the timeline and information on waiting periods and background checks. The current system we have replaced President Clinton's Handgun waiting period.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (dErES)

92 ""Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000" Got anything this decade? How about something after 9-11? " Good point.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (WnCSK)

93 The more I see and hear Rubio the less I think of him. Can't see the attraction. Now he just seems like a lousy stand up comedian.

Posted by: mega machines at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (fbovC)

94 I'm thinking some really happy thoughts right now. Really happy thoughts. Happy thoughts. Thinking about them.

Posted by: Soona at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (Fmupd)

95 58 I get it. We're being fooled. We are rubes. Mouth-breathing, McDonalds-eating, non college educated hicks. We suck and our shit is all retarded. Ok. Thanks. --------------- Yeah, this. The commentariat on the HQ are generally well informed and intelligent. Doubtful that any of this is new information. If you have a preferred guy, make the case rather than just repeating that the other guy is an asshole.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (kTF2Z)

96 >>>58 I get it. We're being fooled. We are rubes. Mouth-breathing, McDonalds-eating, non college educated hicks. We suck and our shit is all retarded. Ok. Thanks. ... if the posting of accurate information (and well publicized information, by the way, this isn't some new data -- or it shouldn't be, anyway) about a candidate you support is, for you, an attack on you that causes you emotional pain, then you should probably not be reading political blogs at all.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (dciA+)

97 What issue is most important to you? That's what you should vote on, imho.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 05:11 PM (t5zYU)

=============================================


I would say 1) Pro-Life. 2) Religious Liberty / Freedom of Conscience. 3) Gun rights.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (dFi94)

98 I will never understand the pure-con mind.


Why bother even discussing Rubio? He can't even win his own state.

You really want to know why we are where we are ?

Our proud tradition of " Principled losing ".

Posted by: Mortimer at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (vgERT)

99 "I will not compromise your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms," the U.S. senator from Texas told supporters. So, he supports repealing NFA '34 & GCA '68? THERE'S support for the 2nd Amendment. "Shall not be infringed "

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at February 29, 2016 12:14 PM (+058L)

100 Eh but the Cubanadian will compromise the Article II. Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 29, 2016 05:06 PM (TcGpp) You are so broken record with the Canadian schtick. You got anything else?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah... at February 29, 2016 12:15 PM (WVsWD)

101 As I mentioned, below, before being willowed: for over eight years politicians have been yapping about not being able to deport eleven million illegals. Ok. So, I guess, they all practiced birth control and there were no anchor babies. As the census nor hospitals nor schools nor banks nor anyone has to admit illegal status, the number is more like 40 million. Which brings me (keep in mind I need a nap but Ace Addiction is alive and well) to the point: should Cruz or Trump be elected, I do think some would be freaked out and deport themselves (vs Romney, who they would know would be squishy). Amiright? Does anyone have a tranq they can give me for nap? thanks.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 29, 2016 12:15 PM (wAMRL)

102 >>>Yeah, this. The commentariat on the HQ are generally well informed and intelligent. Doubtful that any of this is new information. If you have a preferred guy, make the case rather than just repeating that the other guy is an asshole. does accurate information you don't even bother to contradict hurt you in your feelz-hole?

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:15 PM (dciA+)

103 Does Cruz have any executive experience? I don't know much about him pre-Senate. Was he Mayor of his Canadian hometown?

Posted by: Mr. Wednesday Night at February 29, 2016 12:15 PM (Ui7Rt)

104 And the womens are runng by the GW bridge. Woo hoo! C'mon speing!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 29, 2016 12:15 PM (jnQps)

105 Would you buy a used speedboat from this man, Mario Rubio?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 29, 2016 12:15 PM (oVJmc)

106 filbert,

It's a fact of life.  Democracies degrade into chaos and fall apart.  How long did the Weimar Republic last?  How long did the American Republic last.  Yeah.  We had a good long run.  It's not if.  It's when.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 12:15 PM (1ijHg)

107 80 Posted by: Juicer at February 29, 2016 05:10 PM (KH7jg)

FYI Juicer is the same commenter as Ibrahim Awad Saddiq Majad al-Badri.

So um, consistentency I guess.

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 12:15 PM (pAlYe)

108 This reminds me I have to complete the paperwork for 2 more gun permits. Thank Ace

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 29, 2016 12:16 PM (mw8Dm)

109 If Rubio were giving a speech to cannibals he'd start by extolling the virtues of meat tenderizer.

Posted by: MTF at February 29, 2016 12:16 PM (TxJGV)

110 Speaking of polls... I read somewhere today that re tomorrow's voting, Trump is polling higher in more conservative states and not as high (though still winning) in more moderate states. That is at odds with a lot of peoples' thinking.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:16 PM (3myMJ)

111 I repeat:

How many crossover votes can Cruz attract?

Because he has to have them to win.


Or he can sail into the sunset on the good ship Principle.

Like President Romney.

Posted by: Mortimer at February 29, 2016 12:16 PM (vgERT)

112 Ace, while you're here the redirect ads are coming from something called mobfree.click

Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 12:16 PM (rrG3v)

113 Got anything this decade? How about something after 9-11? Well, that's it. I can buy that over the last 17 years Rubio might have changed his mind, and Trump over the last 15. The Assault Weapons ban sounded okay to a lot of people who didn't know guns very well (or at all) because it sounds like banning 50 caliber machineguns from the Wal*Mart sport department. But learning more? How has either one changed? My guess is that Rubio, based on the NRA statements and his past antics with the public vs his personal wishes, hasn't changed much. I dunno about Trump. Guns seems like an area he might not be too leftist about.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (39g3+)

114 I see no  Trump evil...
I hear no Trump evil...

Kids, if I thought Cruz could beat Hillary, he's be my first choice,
but it's not happening, so like many, I'm taking my chances with the Trumpmeister. I can't see him being worse than the Clintons, Obama, Carter
and the Bushies, so better something halfway decent than the Evil Witch...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (8hxbD)

115 I get it. We're being fooled. We are rubes. Mouth-breathing, McDonalds-eating, non college educated hicks. We suck and our shit is all retarded. Ok. Thanks. ... if the posting of accurate information (and well publicized information, by the way, this isn't some new data -- or it shouldn't be, anyway) about a candidate you support is, for you, an attack on you that causes you emotional pain, then you should probably not be reading political blogs at all. Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 05:14 PM (dciA+) There are days I wish I was a mouth-breathing, credulous, non-college-educated hick LIV. In many ways, life would be easier and I might be a much happier person. But sadly, this is not my life.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (s5o+q)

116 Cruz would be great on the SC, but Trump is too thin-skinned to put him there, after all the insults. He probably promised that to Christie for the endorsement.

Posted by: brak at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (MJuTN)

117 When Cruz supporters finally wake up to the fact that he has no path to the nomination, could you at least consider convincing him to cozy up to and endorse Trump in exchange for a nomination to the Supreme Court? That is his true calling, he would be infinitely more effective there than in the Senate, or as a primary delegate and money-suck, and it would avoid the "natural born citizen" issue that you have to know the media would play to the nines to sow FUD with the electorate. Thanks in advance. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 05:13 PM (3dOE/) There is zero way The Turtle, Miss Lindsay, McCain, etc would allow that to happen. Preezy or bust, Baby!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (0cMkb)

118 Man, that Brit Hume has gone totally to the dark side, said Hillary email scandal no big deal. This country is so boned. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 29, 2016 05:11 PM (ODxAs) Talked about this at noon. Hume was on Outnumbered. Not only is Hillary's email scandal no big deal, but according to Hume, Trump will lose to her and the if he is the nominee, the Republicans will lose the Senate and probably the House. Either he is on drugs or has his marching orders from Aisles and Megyn Kelly.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (dErES)

119 "It upsets me to hear you say this thing that is true" -- sounds a lot like a demand for #SafeSpaces by SJWs. Why do true things cause you to be emotionally wounded, and why would you imagine the problem lies with the person violating your safe space without a trigger warning? Wasn't the headline a trigger warning? If you sensed you would not feel "safe" reading the post, why did you do so?

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (dciA+)

120 I don't think that Trump is a dumb man, far from it, but he just hasn't been bothered to think about issues like the 2nd Amendment, and it shows.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (evdj2)

121 Yeezy never lets anyone in his feelzhole!

Posted by: President Kim Kardashian Yeezy typing through the spacetime continuum at February 29, 2016 12:17 PM (mcm0N)

122 There are days I wish I was a mouth-breathing, credulous, non-college-educated hick LIV. In many ways, life would be easier and I might be a much happier person. I wish I could get behind any of these Candidates....

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 12:18 PM (/dSsq)

123 The good thing is Rubio lost his voice today. bwhahaha On gun rights: he bought himself a big 'un on Christmas and tweeted a photo. Big gun. farht. He took me off his list when I fired off a letter to him after an illegal killed a little girl in Orlando. Never heard from him again. Bite moi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 29, 2016 12:18 PM (wAMRL)

124 It's a fact of life. Democracies degrade into chaos and fall apart. How long did the Weimar Republic last? How long did the American Republic last. Yeah. We had a good long run. It's not if. It's when. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 05:15 PM (1ijHg) Sucks to be living in what appear to be the Last Days of the Republic, though. Sucks even worse to REALIZE it.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 12:18 PM (s5o+q)

125 Kids, if I thought Cruz could beat Hillary, he's be my first choice,
but it's not happening, so like many, I'm taking my chances with the Trumpmeister.


Preach it, brother.

Posted by: Mortimer at February 29, 2016 12:18 PM (vgERT)

126 If Trump builds a wall I don't care if he expands liable laws so he can sue anyone who criticizes him.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 29, 2016 12:18 PM (kf2iZ)

127 Trump is probably the laziest candidate ever. He doesn't seem to have done any opposition research at all on any of the other candidates. Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 05:02 PM (2x3L+) Why bother, when calling them, effectively, a lying poopyhead child molester will do? It's working, isn't it?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 29, 2016 12:19 PM (mBYZv)

128 Statist assholes hardest hit: The Associated Press @AP BREAKING: Judge in New York drug case: US can't force Apple to provide FBI access to locked iPhone data.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 29, 2016 12:19 PM (A/3fN)

129 "this isn't some new data" It certainly isn't. However, there is no denying the statement regardless of the age. In all fairness, after 16 years he is allowed to change an opinion. Though most of his opinions seem to change much more quickly.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:19 PM (WnCSK)

130 You really want to know why we are where we are ? Our proud tradition of " Principled losing ". Posted by: Mortimer at February 29, 2016 05:14 PM (vgERT) Actually, the GOP specializes in "Unprincipled losing".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 29, 2016 12:19 PM (zc3Db)

131 Talked about this at noon. Hume was on Outnumbered. Not only is Hillary's email scandal no big deal, but according to Hume, Trump will lose to her and the if he is the nominee, the Republicans will lose the Senate and probably the House. Did He say it wasn't a big deal or did He say nothing would be done about it?The Senate is probably a goner, but it would really take a tidal wave of Hillary! love to take the House....

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 12:20 PM (/dSsq)

132 Apropos of nothing, *cough*, I just bought a new rifle and I'm dying waiting for it to arrive. I lust to carry it away from the FFL and abuse it for hours at the range.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:20 PM (evdj2)

133 This is not what people with healthy minds do. Posted by: Juicer at February 29, 2016 05:18 PM (9bGqw) I don't think you're an authority on what healthy minds do.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 29, 2016 12:20 PM (oVJmc)

134

There is zero way The Turtle, Miss Lindsay, McCain, etc would allow that to happen.

 

I don't think Miss Lindsay McCain or Turtle could withstand the power of a fully operational Trump Star.   Seriously.  If Trump rolls, the career politicians will start retiring. Fast.

Posted by: simplemind at February 29, 2016 12:20 PM (JTwsP)

135 I'm sure a registered Democrat from 2001-2009 who gave to Hillary Clinton, Charlie Rangel, and Harry Reid was totes a Second Amendment absolutist. (Link in nick.) Honestly, I've seen most of you here absolutely eviscerate members of the horde who are less than perfect on gun rights, but you're considering giving Trump a pass on this? Really?

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:20 PM (t5zYU)

136 You know if all the people who say "I would vote for Cruz but I don't think he can win" would actually vote for him...he could win.

Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 12:20 PM (rrG3v)

137 Posted by: Juicer at February 29, 2016 05:18 PM (9bGqw) Could you please go back to your Muslim crackpot leader identity?. It gave an air of internationalism and inclusivity to the post/s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 29, 2016 12:20 PM (w4NZ8)

138 The Mussolini quote thing.  Heh.  I love how that is such a kill-shot.  It's like the Hitler card won't work so lets' manufacturer something else. 

And Gawker has publicly laughed it up..... they take credit for setting Trump up to retweet a quote,... and then reveal who the quote was from.

It is becoming very clear, that any and all things will be manufacturers or misrepresented and no bar is too low . 


Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (e7T6D)

139 The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act" passed the legislature in 2008--during Rubio's tenure as Florida House Speaker ............. Wait a sec.. it passed under his speakership.. WTF? How is that NOT walking the walk.. I think you like to quote stuff that agrees with how you feel already, Ace.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (so+oy)

140 What issue is most important to you? That's what you should vote on, imho. Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 05:11 PM (t5zYU) ------------------------------------------------------- MY problem is that I'm a Tenth Amendment guy and there is literally no one in Washington that supports the Tenth, with the possible exception of Justice Thomas.

Posted by: MTF at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (TxJGV)

141 'Poopyhead' is in play?

Posted by: Weasel at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (e3bId)

142 121: Fox news went to the darkside years ago. Britt just caught up to the lackeys. What other network would employ Sheppie all these years? Fuck cable and satellite. Pay those assholes for that shit? No more.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (ucDmr)

143 Is this what it has come to?? Ted Cruz can pound sand. Creepy. But I'll still vote for him over any Democrat. Kasich and Carson, then Marco - the only sane civil ones running in this fiasco.

Posted by: Barzini in Miami at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (zmZ2x)

144 Cruz


or else we're f*cked.


 Not 'proper f*cked', just f*cked.  Which is the worst kind...

Posted by: Janos Hunyadi at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (/542q)

145 This is not what people with healthy minds do.

Posted by: Juicer at February 29, 2016 05:18 PM (9bGqw)

==========================================



I'm sorry if this seems rude, but to come on to someone's blog, and deride and ridicule them while switching nics so as not to get caught - well, those are not traits I'd put on a poster for Support Mental Health week. 

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (dFi94)

146 "Can't see the attraction. Now he just seems like a lousy stand up comedian. Posted by: mega machine" Really? Does he have any good jokes I can steal?

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (OD2ni)

147 You know if all the people who say "I would vote for Cruz but I don't think he can win" would actually vote for him...he could win. Posted by: Lauren

--

Funny, because it is true

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (Qvgg/)

148 What I am wondering is if Rubio is the nominee, is he going to continue with the insults and mockery against Hillary or is he going to try and revert to the pre-debate happy Rubio? And if he does, is anyone going to even believe him?

Posted by: IC at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (a0IVu)

149 does accurate information you don't even bother to contradict hurt you in your feelz-hole?

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 05:15 PM (dciA+)


damn, coke really burns when it comes out your nose

Posted by: BignJames at February 29, 2016 12:21 PM (HtUkt)

150 Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence[\i] Oh for fuck's sake.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (16TRA)

151 As the referee in the boxing match says "Protect yourself at all times."

Best advice I can give to anyone.  But don't forget "Honor me and I will honor you."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (1ijHg)

152 *Shoots blow dart into Christy's neck*

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (kTF2Z)

153 "Cruz would be great on the SC, but Trump is too thin-skinned to put him there, after all the insults."

*shrug*

This race is not nearly as contentious as the (D) primaries in 2008 and  TFG made Hillary his Secretary of State.

Posted by: Mortimer at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (vgERT)

154 If memory serves, in 1989, the GHW Bush administration banned the importation of foreign-made semi-automatic firearms that the administration deemed "had no sporting purpose".

W. did not reverse that regulation after the 2000 election.

That's why we need strong leaders like Ted Cruz in the Senate.

Posted by: mrp at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (JBggj)

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (16TRA)

156 By the way, I don't think the Trump quote is super gun grabby, but it doesn't reflect someone with a good understanding and appreciation of the Second Amendment

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (mBYZv)

157 >>>When Cruz supporters finally wake up to the fact that he has no path to the nomination awww, someone is saying I'm a mouth-breathing moron and zealot. I have feelz of the sadz. please do not post completely-fair political advocacy -- it hurts me in my heart-pussy.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (dciA+)

158 136 what didja get, Grumpy?

Posted by: Weasel at February 29, 2016 12:22 PM (e3bId)

159 Republicans will lose the Senate and probably the House. And the governors and the mayors and the dogcatchers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 29, 2016 12:23 PM (FkBIv)

160 We're schlonged.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're boned at February 29, 2016 12:23 PM (evdj2)

161 I'm sorry if this seems rude, Grammie-In his particular case rudeness is warranted.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 29, 2016 12:23 PM (w4NZ8)

162 You want Cruz.

You will settle for Trump.

You will get Rubio.


(Sheesh I hated writing that.)


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 12:23 PM (1ijHg)

163

 Hume was on Outnumbered. Not only is Hillary's email scandal no big deal, but according to Hume, Trump will lose to her and the if he is the nominee, the Republicans will lose the Senate and probably the House. 

FYI  there's Hume is about a half bubble off.   First words out of his mouth on air day of first terrorist attacks in London years ago were "this would be a good day to short stocks in London".

You can youtube it.    

Also,  Fox news is part of uniparty via Murdock.  read the breitbart story on the amnesty collusion amongst Gang of 8 and fox. 

Posted by: simplemind at February 29, 2016 12:23 PM (JTwsP)

164 There is a reason he is known as RINO Rubio and it ain't just his gang of 8 BS.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at February 29, 2016 12:23 PM (t2KH5)

165 Kasich and Carson, then Marco - the only sane civil ones running in this fiasco. Posted by: Barzini in Miami Thank you. Everyone assumes my wild gesticulations are a sign of mental illness.

Posted by: John Kasich at February 29, 2016 12:23 PM (SiyyF)

166 >>it hurts me in my heart-pussy. hahahaha

Posted by: JackStraw at February 29, 2016 12:23 PM (/tuJf)

167 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 29, 2016 05:20 PM (w4NZ Oof. When you've annoyed FenlonSpoke, you have achieved the Eagle Merit Badge in Dickishness.

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 12:24 PM (s5o+q)

168 >>>You know if all the people who say "I would vote for Cruz but I don't think he can win" would actually vote for him...he could win. hah! Not only that, but half the RUBIO supporters ALSO say this! And thanks for the heads-up on the redirects, Lauren.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:24 PM (dciA+)

169 "Talked about this at noon. Hume was on Outnumbered." I saw that. I did not realize what a fantastic body Melissa Francis has. Never noticed before.

Posted by: Benji Carver at February 29, 2016 12:24 PM (OD2ni)

170 "I would vote for Cruz but I don't think he can win" would actually vote for him...he could win.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

Nope.

Not without Bernie's millenials and blue collar Dems.

Posted by: Mortimer at February 29, 2016 12:24 PM (vgERT)

171 Posted by: Barzini in Miami at February 29, 2016 05:21 PM (zmZ2x) Any insight on why Marco looks to be losing big in Florida?

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:24 PM (3myMJ)

172 Trump is probably the laziest candidate ever. He doesn't seem to have done any opposition research at all on any of the other candidates.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 05:02 PM (2x3L+)


Why do research when you can just make stuff up?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 29, 2016 12:24 PM (NPofj)

173 @112 I love that!

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:24 PM (t5zYU)

174 A Vepr in 308. You guys know I'm a AK fan and this looks like a higher quality PSL in a more common to find lying on the ground round than my PSLs.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:24 PM (evdj2)

175 How would Rubio respond? By Cruz a liar, of course.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 29, 2016 12:25 PM (0vdts)

176 Did He say it wasn't a big deal or did He say nothing would be done about it?The Senate is probably a goner, but it would really take a tidal wave of Hillary! love to take the House.... Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 05:20 PM (/dSsq) He actually said(I was watching) that he has read legal opinions on Hillary having a private server in her home to receive and send emails and the opinions were either for or against it. In his opinion, because there are legal opinions that say it's not a big deal, he thinks the justice department will not indict her and then added the following. "Does anyone think that it is good for the country to have a candidate who is nominated for president by one of the major parties be indicted during the election?" I just don't think this is a big enough deal to indict her.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 29, 2016 12:25 PM (dErES)

177 161 >>>When Cruz supporters finally wake up to the fact that he has no path to the nomination

awww, someone is saying I'm a mouth-breathing moron and zealot. I have feelz of the sadz.

please do not post completely-fair political advocacy -- it hurts me in my heart-pussy.
Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 05:22 PM (dciA+)



Are we still against TPP and the Iran deal?  I can't tell unless you tell me what to think.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 12:26 PM (3dOE/)

178 >>> Justice Scalia is gone. The second amendment will be buried next to him. Posted by: simplemind at February 29, 2016 05:02 PM (JTwsP) Not if Thomas can help it...go Thomas! http://cnn.it/1QQf5l2

Posted by: LizLem at February 29, 2016 12:26 PM (hvf9s)

179 I think Trump is a runaway train.  Nobody is going to stop him.  He is going to keep winning.  Eventually the "winner-take-all" states like California will put him over the top.  It may not be until June.  But that is how I see it.

And the Brit Humes of the world will just never understand why.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 12:26 PM (1ijHg)

180 I don't know if a conservative will ever win the White House again. I don't say that to be pessimistic.  I think it's just a reality.  The numbers aren't there.  Being conservative takes a certain amount of work when it comes to keeping current with politics and how they fit into the framework of the Constitution.  I don't see that many younger people interested in that any more.  Traditionalists are generally older. 
Old people die.  Young people with no job and no future don't sit around reading the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at February 29, 2016 12:26 PM (dFi94)

181 So the question I have raging in my mind, has any bought the Red Copper Pan? The advertisements are intriguing.

Posted by: Soona at February 29, 2016 12:26 PM (Fmupd)

182 Grump Whatyagit?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at February 29, 2016 12:26 PM (ptqRm)

183 >>>However, there is no denying the statement regardless of the age. In all fairness, after 16 years he is allowed to change an opinion. Though most of his opinions seem to change much more quickly. true, but usually, when someone changes his position, he offers you the details of the mental journey he underwent in changing it. he tells you what it was that changed his mind. Has trump done this? I've heard him talk up shooting back at terrorists, but that has nothing to do with being hoodwinked about the specifics of the liberal-invention "assault weapon" ban.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:27 PM (dciA+)

184 "Does anyone think that it is good for the country to have a candidate who is nominated for president by one of the major parties be indicted during the election?" May his chains rest lightly upon him.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:27 PM (evdj2)

185 Thank you for the tranq, Duke. I think. I am thinking, while hallucinating on what may be that horse tranq stuff (thanks A LOT, Duke, you duke head)...Senator Sessions knows where the bodies are buried. This is not his first rodeo. He knows how things work in DC. He, and Christie...who knows the current plans...are telling The Donald. We have not seen even the beginning of the sewer flies coming home to roost, morons. Oh! I saw a new nic below call someone a "moron" and laughed. So, Rubio has lost his voice today. Hopefully, tomorrow, he loses all. And I do hope he loses Florida and am sadz I cannot vote. bah.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 29, 2016 12:27 PM (wAMRL)

186 Is this where we stroke our gun-dicks?

Remember the railing against the GOPe here over the Iran deal? Over TPA/TPP?

Good times. Good times.

Guess who voted for both?

Hint: It wasn't some private citizen from the State of N.Y.


And on topic of gunbaniness, anyone remember the UN Arms treaty?

Here's the Gun Owners of America explaining how TPP could contain all sorts of UN Arms Treaty goodness.

https://www.gunowners.org/alert5072015.htm


Full disclosure: GOA has endorsed Cruz last year, and then again reiterated it a few days ago.

https://www.gunowners.org/alertcruz02252016.htm

Apparently the TPA vote is not as pivotal as they first intimated.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 05:05 PM (3dOE/)



Flounder, TPP HAS NOT BEEN VOTED ON. Cruz has vowed to oppose it when it does come up but you get no points for making incorrect claims.



Maybe, Gunowners of America support Cruz because they did do their homework?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (NPofj)

187 it hurts me in my heart-pussy. hahahaha Posted by: JackStraw at February 29, 2016 05:23 PM (/tuJf) I'll admit I lol'd too. shame on me

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (qCMvj)

188 "Does anyone think that it is good for the country to have a candidate who is nominated for president by one of the major parties be indicted during the election?" I just don't think this is a big enough deal to indict her. Posted by: Jen the original at February 29, 2016 05:25 PM (dErES) I don't see her being indicted either... I hope No one here is counting on that to propel their Candidate to the Presidency....

Posted by: donna at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (/dSsq)

189 "Conversations" about this race will probably change quite a bit by Tuesday, don'tcha all think?

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (3myMJ)

190 "Why do you always ignore the fact that Trump was a PRIVATE CITIZEN not voting on anything."

And now he's saying exactly what he thinks you want to hear.

The best indication of how a person will act in the future isn't the words coming out of their mouth, it's how they've behaved throughout their life.

As true for PRIVATE CITIZENS and politicians as it is for prisoners in front of the parole board.

In fact, doesn't it make sense that a private citizen might actually be telling you what they believe rather than the politician who's blowing smoke up your ass to win your vote?  In this case the same guy.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (kf2iZ)

191 I'm more worried about buying tires for the wifes car than any of these limpdick fucks. It just doesn't matter.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (ucDmr)

192 A Vepr? Nice

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (ptqRm)

193 So what candidate is for the repeal of NFA '34 & GCA '68?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (+058L)

194 "And thanks for the heads-up on the redirects, Lauren. " You're welcome. Hopefully it's something fixable. Googling suggests they're the scourge of the Internet.

Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (rrG3v)

195 I did not realize what a fantastic body Melissa Francis has. Never noticed before. Posted by: Benji Carver It's a requirement for any participant on Outnumbered. Unless you are the guy. Or Meggie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 29, 2016 12:28 PM (FkBIv)

196 >>>Are we still against TPP and the Iran deal? I can't tell unless you tell me what to think. i am and I meant to concede to you that Cruz's vote on the iran deal is very disappointing to me, and it's a solid hit. I meant to say that, and even had that cut and pasted, but I got sidelined with people whining that they didn't like reading facts. FWIW, I don't whine when you post facts that hurt my cause. I understand it's the core of advocacy.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (dciA+)

197 >>> Why do research when you can just make stuff up? Posted by: redbanzai at February 29, 2016 05:24 PM (NPofj) ----- No way in hell I'm voting for Mario, but I have to give him credit for all the research he did on Trump with the last debate. He is the one who brought up the Polish workers thing which no one else had and now his recent thing about Trump having stubby fingers. Trump just takes cheap, easy shots which are effective but have a brief shelf life. There are real arguments he could be making against Mario regarding policy that would cripple him, but instead he goes for Marco is thirsty all the time and short.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (2x3L+)

198 160 By the way, I don't think the Trump quote is super gun grabby, but it doesn't reflect someone with a good understanding and appreciation of the Second Amendment
Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 29, 2016 05:22 PM (mBYZv)


This is true.  But consider that he probably never needed to.  This was long before Heller, and it was probably taken on faith that an AWB was constitutional, because, well, we had one at the time. 

I think someone put some knowledge to him since then.  He is certainly not Cruz, in that respect.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (3dOE/)

199 Is pain in the heart-pussy covered by ObamaCare?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (oVJmc)

200 not to mention, I have no doubts that Cruz would wipe out the EO's as he says, the illegal and unconstitutional ones

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (qCMvj)

201

"Does anyone think that it is good for the country to have a candidate who is nominated for president by one of the major parties be indicted during the election?" I just don't think this is a big enough deal to indict her.

No youre right Uniparty representative Hume.   Its better for the Country to elect an idiot, who has no idea of operational security who will leave our secrets hanging in the wind. That's ideal.     Congrats. You win.

Posted by: simplemind at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (JTwsP)

202 Whatyagit? Vepr. 308, Ironwood Stock, 20 1/2 inch chromelined barrel. This kind of stock: http://ironwooddesigns.com/IWDVEPRSVD.html

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (evdj2)

203 does accurate information you don't even bother to contradict hurt you in your feelz-hole? --------- Sorry, ace, should've been more clear. Wasn't calling you out. Obviously I enjoy your writing or I wouldn't be here so much. What I meant was the constant back and forth in the comments of people yelling past each other over who is the biggest asshole. Plus, stealing feelzhole.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (kTF2Z)

204 "Does anyone think that it is good for the country to have a candidate who is nominated for president by one of the major parties be indicted during the election?" I just don't think this is a big enough deal to indict her.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 29, 2016 05:25 PM (dErES)


Oh.... my.... so Hume believe the Political class is above the Law?

 

 Of course, he probably puts himself in that class.... soooo....

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 29, 2016 12:29 PM (RK8AH)

205 @176...well, first clue, he did nothing he promised and does not vote half the time. Other than that? He's short (no offense to short morons).

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 29, 2016 12:30 PM (wAMRL)

206 Clarence Thomas' great second amendment related question: "This is a misdemeanor violation...it suspends a constitutional right. Can you give me another area where a misdemeanor violation suspends a constitutional right?

Posted by: LizLem at February 29, 2016 12:30 PM (hvf9s)

207 "Conversations" about this race will probably change quite a bit by Tuesday, don'tcha all think? Late tomorrow evening will be shrill, shrill, shrill.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 29, 2016 12:30 PM (oVJmc)

208 I don't know if a conservative will ever win the White House again. I don't say that to be pessimistic. I think it's just a reality. The numbers aren't there. Being conservative takes a certain amount of work when it comes to keeping current with politics and how they fit into the framework of the Constitution. I don't see that many younger people interested in that any more. Traditionalists are generally older.
Old people die. Young people with no job and no future don't sit around reading the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at February 29, 2016 05:26 PM (dFi94)


Conservative young people are out there... they just don't get the press because they are not occupying anything or pooping on police cars.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 29, 2016 12:31 PM (NPofj)

209 ALL gun control laws are unconstitutional.  We just can never get a court which properly recognizes the 2nd amendment.


If we regulated the first amendment the way we do the second you would have to be investigated and get a permit to buy a newspaper.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at February 29, 2016 12:31 PM (t2KH5)

210 It's award season -------------------------------- Most Venal candidates: Hillary and Rubio Most Sincere: Bernie and Carson Most Eager To Impress: Cruz and Kasich Most Likely To Succeed: Trump and Hilldogger

Posted by: MTF at February 29, 2016 12:31 PM (TxJGV)

211 A variation on the old Churchill line: So Trump is a flip-flopping, gun-grabbing, closet pro-amnesty, con artist, baby-killing, KKK-loving purveyor of New York values. But when we wake up on Wednesday morning, he'll have won all the Super Tuesday states save one by wide margins and garnered more delegates than all the other candidates combined. And Rubio won't have dick to show for tomorrow, except a few bad weiner jokes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 29, 2016 12:31 PM (r1fLd)

212 Late tomorrow evening will be shrill, shrill, shrill.i/i] I plan on drinking myself into a stupor tomorrow, and finding out about it on Wednesday.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:31 PM (evdj2)

213

There are real arguments he could be making against Mario regarding policy that would cripple him, but instead he goes for Marco is thirsty all the time and short.

Yes because that's how stupid we are as a Country.      Romney's policy wonkishness wasn't a plus.

And Rubio didn't do anything he just memorized what he handlers did for him.

Posted by: simplemind at February 29, 2016 12:31 PM (JTwsP)

214 " very much doubt it. It would show up in the polls of the past 6 months when people had nothing to lose voicing their support. " The polls show him beating Hillary head to head.

Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 12:31 PM (rrG3v)

215 I saw the Heart-Pussies open for Jimi Hendrix at the Fillmore in '70, just before Jimi and Janis OD'd.


a bad year but awesome guitar solos, man

Posted by: Janos Hunyadi at February 29, 2016 12:31 PM (/542q)

216 The next article Ace will post:

TRUMP HATES KIDS AND EATS PUPPIES.

The next 24 hours are going to be hilarious. I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 29, 2016 12:32 PM (mKAPw)

217 Any way we can trade our leading candidates for Capt. Higgins? He's looking for a new position as of today.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 29, 2016 12:32 PM (TnUKj)

218 >>> "He tried to cover himself by voting for it after doing everything he could to work against it. He plays to an audience." "[Rubio] was a big disappointment to us when he was the speaker. He talked the talk, but he didn't walk the walk" .... Rubio? Say one thing to voters then the opposite when he thinks they're not listening? Reverse positions once elected? Yeah. That seems like him. But let go with that whole "electability" thing that the GOP and half the other people at vote R keep selling. It's worked out so well in the past 2 presidential elections and with the all spineless pieces of shit in Congress.

Posted by: Damiano at February 29, 2016 12:32 PM (XItbt)

219 "Does anyone think that it is good for the country to have a candidate who is nominated for president by one of the major parties be indicted during the election?"

---

I like how Brit encapsulates the      policy of this regime;   that she is officially above the law.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 29, 2016 12:32 PM (Qvgg/)

220 202 >>>Are we still against TPP and the Iran deal? I can't tell unless you tell me what to think.

i am and I meant to concede to you that Cruz's vote on the iran deal is very disappointing to me, and it's a solid hit.

I meant to say that, and even had that cut and pasted, but I got sidelined with people whining that they didn't like reading facts.

FWIW, I don't whine when you post facts that hurt my cause. I understand it's the core of advocacy.


Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 05:29 PM (dciA+)


Then all apologies to you.  I had the notion that you may have taken my private email about the degeneration of the comments in this place (by all sides) and made a personal attack with that subject matter.  I apologize for any misunderstanding and resultant snark.

You are a "thought leader," and for better or worse, people will take your lead and amplify it tenfold.

Thanks for the place to hash this stuff out.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 12:33 PM (3dOE/)

221 I think "Pain in the Heart-Pussy" was Belinda Carlisle's most underrated album.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 29, 2016 12:33 PM (SiyyF)

222 Perhaps Thomas is filling the void left my Scalia's departure.  Excellent question by the way.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 12:33 PM (1ijHg)

223 213 "Conversations" about this race will probably change quite a bit by Tuesday, don'tcha all think? Late tomorrow evening will be shrill, shrill, shrill. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 29, 2016 05:30 PM (oVJmc) ------------------ I think we're going to have a big group hug after tomorrow night. Even Ace will join in. It'll be joyous.

Posted by: Soona at February 29, 2016 12:33 PM (Fmupd)

224 Ace sold his donors list to Hot Air!!!! We're all DooM eedddd!!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah... at February 29, 2016 12:33 PM (WVsWD)

225 Why is Hume talking about this. Either he knows something he shouldn't (doubtful) or he's just talking out if his ass (highly likely). If the latter its just battlespace prep to help Hilllary.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 29, 2016 12:33 PM (r1fLd)

226 I'd really like to hear from someone in Florida about why Rubio isn't winning there like Cruz is in Texas and Kasich is in Ohio.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:34 PM (3myMJ)

227 I saw the Heart-Pussies open for Jimi Hendrix at the Fillmore in '70, just before Jimi and Janis OD'd. Guns and elites. OT I know someone who paid for 2 VIP tickets to Coachella this year (he does every year). WTH? Never. https://www.coachella.com/ I think the regular rate was $375/general admission, but that is sold out. Sold. Out. But, hey, $459 for pass/shuttle or, the VIP for $900 Teepee or Tent with Pass? From $2400 to $5200 I like Guns N' Roses, but not that much.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 29, 2016 12:34 PM (qCMvj)

228 Rubio is Baroque but without a teleprompter (as he has memorized all his talking points...which are, on first showing, impressive). Just because you are good at speechifying does not mean you will do anything but golf while wearing saddle shoes. Just don't vote for Rubio, that is all I ask. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 29, 2016 12:34 PM (wAMRL)

229 Conservative young people are out there... they just don't get the press because they are not occupying anything or pooping on police cars. Posted by: redbanzai Or vote.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 29, 2016 12:34 PM (FkBIv)

230 Googles 'heart-pussy' Meh. Ain't no Blue Waffle

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 29, 2016 12:35 PM (jnQps)

231 I meant to say that, and even had that cut and pasted, but I got sidelined with people whining that they didn't like reading facts. ----------again my comments were not directed at you, ace. My apologies for not being clear and concise.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:35 PM (kTF2Z)

232 "I did not realize what a fantastic body Melissa Francis has. Never noticed before. Posted by: Benji Carver It's a requirement for any participant on Outnumbered. Unless you are the guy. Or Meggie. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr." In fairness, she was on last week and it appears that Meggie has lost some weight. Maybe Andrea is dragging her to the gym.

Posted by: Benji Carver at February 29, 2016 12:35 PM (OD2ni)

233 Comedy gold. Mercy will arrive Wednesday morning.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at February 29, 2016 12:35 PM (TFWFz)

234 I'm voting Cruz tomorrow, Mrs928 votes Carson. It's a House of Conscience, I tell you what.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:36 PM (evdj2)

235 .>>>>why Rubio isn't winning there like Cruz is in Texas and Kasich is in Ohio.


because Rubio is a.................


you already know what he is

Posted by: Janos Hunyadi at February 29, 2016 12:36 PM (/542q)

236 i am and I meant to concede to you that Cruz's vote on the iran deal is very disappointing to me, and it's a solid hit. I meant to say that, and even had that cut and pasted, but I got sidelined with people whining that they didn't like reading facts. FWIW, I don't whine when you post facts that hurt my cause. I understand it's the core of advocacy. Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 05:29 PM (dciA+) Cruz supporters acknowledge his mistakes and wrongdoings. I also have a yuuuge problem with his support of the Iran farce vote. But guess what, all humans are flawed, politicians especially so. Based on my knowledge of the remaining candidates (sit down Kasich), I trust Cruz the most. I fully expect that he would disappoint me if he got elected, but that would not cause an existential crisis with me as I do not put my trust in him. Overall, I think he would make a decent president, and his respect for the Constitution is very important to me.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 29, 2016 12:36 PM (mBYZv)

237 Maybe not the worst sort of gun-grabby position, but I'm interested to hear Rubio either defend this or explain how he "evolved." ------ Why Ace! Ol' pal Marco drove his doggone PICKUP TRUCK all over the state when he was running for senate, and he's fixin' to do it again to beat Trump! He's just one of the guys, rough and tumble, loving those guns! So he tells ABC in any case. I'm sure he does a tremendous amount of hunting in those heels.

Posted by: 0302 at February 29, 2016 12:36 PM (wx6iv)

238 3 A Trump Administration will be based entirely on common-sense measures.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 29, 2016 04:58 PM (8ZskC)



You have nothing to fear with Donald Trump in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at February 29, 2016 12:36 PM (8iiMU)

239 Ace, I was just joking about being told my place.  I've been here a long time and I enjoy the sarcasm and passion.  I appreciate the desire to inform, and if only we knew this or that we'd be more suspect and change a viewpoint.  I appreciate the stakes are high and passion and getting in the weeds on all of this.

That's the way friends talk to one another.   It is no fun when someone says I will not listen.... and it's no fun to read, what about this?  What about this?  Well, what about THIS?  But, it's part of a healthy debate and as long as you'll have me, I'll keep reading and commenting.


Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 12:36 PM (e7T6D)

240 I was thinking this morning more on my date that is a go/ no go on a Hildabeast indictment. At the point she is the Democrat nominee is the cut off. Could be a reason to get Bernie out asap because I'm thinking then it's not going to happen.

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 12:36 PM (fizMZ)

241 233 I'd really like to hear from someone in Florida about why Rubio isn't winning there like Cruz is in Texas and Kasich is in Ohio. Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 05:34 PM (3myMJ) I am by no means a Rubio supporter, but my guess would be retirees from New York? So on the one hand the native conservatives have problems with him on amnesty and on the other the more liberalish republicans have a soft spot for Trump?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 12:36 PM (iHjB5)

242 But, but, but...Rubio's ACU rating!!!11

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 29, 2016 12:37 PM (Wckf4)

243 @233...because he has pissed off Floridians. Those of us who stood up for his Cuban behind vs Crist (wasn't that hard. ha). Believed in him. Listened to his blarney about not amnesty. Thought he would do what he said, when he was running for president all along. He went to DC and was either blackmailed or never meant a dang thing to start with. He is a liar. He is short. He sweats a lot while lying. (No offense to short nor sweaty morons). xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 29, 2016 12:37 PM (wAMRL)

244 Rubio has a voting record that effected very real people. Trump does not. His voting record doesn't demonstrate any animosity toward the 2nd amendment from what I've seen. But if the NRA report is accurate, he is no friend of gun rights. Trump? I dunno. Maybe he's changed his mind, its hard to say. He's talked a lot, probably something more recent will be dredged out. Either way, if he wins the nomination, all the gun grabber quotes in the world about Trump won't make Hillary or Sanders look any more attractive to voters.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 29, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)

245 I like how Brit encapsulates the policy of this regime Brit is an amnesty-loving Beltway denizen who works for Rupert Murdoch.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 29, 2016 12:38 PM (oVJmc)

246 Why is Hume talking about this. Either he knows something he shouldn't (doubtful) or he's just talking out if his ass (highly likely). If the latter its just battlespace prep to help Hilllary. Posted by: Ignoramus at February 29, 2016 05:33 PM (r1fLd) He was the guest male on Outnumbered at noon. Mr. Jen likes watching that during lunchtime because of the scintillating conversation(not Andrea Tantaros black stilletos, or the cocktail waitress minidresses with six inch heels on the rest of the female commentators). Anyway, the lead off was Trump and Rubio and their 7th grade, back of the bus, insult- fest and then he was asked about how this helps either of them beat Hillary. Of course, the brilliant Hume thinks none of them will beat Hillary.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 29, 2016 12:38 PM (dErES)

247 >>I'd really like to hear from someone in Florida about why Rubio isn't winning there like Cruz is in Texas and Kasich is in Ohio. Good question. I wonder if it is because up until recently there were two Florida candidates while in Texas and Ohio only one each. Well two in Texas if you count Perry but he dropped out so early I don't think he is on anyone's mind anymore.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 29, 2016 12:38 PM (/tuJf)

248 I'd really like to hear from someone in Florida about why Rubio isn't winning there like Cruz is in Texas and Kasich is in Ohio. Because sometimes we can recognize a turncoat. He's my senator/cretin and I followed his campaign closely. Whoever it is that's inhabiting his body today isn't the same guy I heard on the campaign trail: that guy was all "constitution" this and "freedom" that. I believe they replaced his alien operator too soon.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at February 29, 2016 12:38 PM (LUgeY)

249 And for clarity, the ABC article on how he's going to be Trump did not talk guns at all, but I just laughed out loud when I hear him talking about his "truck." Must've been a real help to haul all of the law books he never needed to the dump when he didn't practice.

Posted by: 0302 at February 29, 2016 12:38 PM (wx6iv)

250 Trumpbots have inundated the streets near me with his signs.  I hope they'll retrieve them after tomorrow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 29, 2016 12:38 PM (FsuaD)

251 Rodger Kimball at pj media is sure if Republicans don't bring up Trump University scam the media as soon as he's the Republican nominee will.

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 12:39 PM (fizMZ)

252 Said it before, I've been voting for the least bad option since 88. I expect I will be again. I'd like Cruz, but if it's Trump VS Hillary I'll cast my vote for Trump.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:39 PM (kTF2Z)

253 I think that 2A issues will be the least of our worries with Trump. As Ace noted, when you haven't really thought about an issue, you will take the path of least resistance. Today, thank God, the NRA viewpoint is the most common and least likely to give trouble so that's what he will do.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:39 PM (evdj2)

254 I fully expect that he would disappoint me if he got elected, but that would not cause an existential crisis with me as I do not put my trust in him. Overall, I think he would make a decent president, and his respect for the Constitution is very important to me. Posted by: chique d'afrique at February 29, 2016 05:36 PM (mBYZv) I agree with everything you said. No one is perfect. You can't trust politicians, but I do believe Cruz will do as much as he can - that he said he would do. I can't say that for anyone else running.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 29, 2016 12:39 PM (qCMvj)

255 Here is a good article on Trump and guns. It turns out that two of his sons are really into hunting. Trump himself despite having guns and a NYC carry permit doesn't seem to 'get' hunting or gun culture. But doesn't seem opposed to it either. One can hope that his sons have some influence on him.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2012/04/09/tmz-is-wrong-about-donald-trump-jr-and-safari-hunting/

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 12:39 PM (pAlYe)

256 "I'd really like to hear from someone in Florida about why Rubio isn't winning there like Cruz is in Texas and Kasich is in Ohio. " What I hear most are immigration and that he hasn't been showing up to vote. But since the debate, alot fo folks are pissed that he stooped to the level he has. Fighting back against Trump is one thing but not the way he is doing it. The quote often heard is that they would now be "embarrassed" to vote for him. Just what I hear in my little corner...

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:40 PM (WnCSK)

257 I plan on drinking myself into a stupor tomorrow, and finding out about it on Wednesday. Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 05:31 PM (evdj2) That reaction and suicidal thoughts is more in line with my expectations for some. I worry about Petunia.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:40 PM (3myMJ)

258 Anybody who considers the UN as anything more than an orphan suckling at the US taxpayer's scrumptious tommy knockers is not to be taken seriously.

UN gun laws are about as serious as a case of Montezuma's revenge.

Posted by: Fritz at February 29, 2016 12:40 PM (BngQR)

259 Trump? I dunno. Maybe he's changed his mind, its hard to say. He's talked a lot, probably something more recent will be dredged out. Check out what his kids have to say. Seems the boys are big hunters.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at February 29, 2016 12:40 PM (+058L)

260 I am by no means a Rubio supporter, but my guess would be retirees from New York? Probably a combo of that and his lying flip flops on immigration. Plus, he's missed a ton of work, and people tend to be upset by that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 29, 2016 12:41 PM (39g3+)

261 "can't take polls for the general now. It's useless and pointless. " Goalposts moved. And Cruz is still the only person but Trump to carry a state. He's also the only one in line to pick up any states on Super Tuesday. And that's with his own college fantasizing about killing him on the floor of the senate and a month of the Full Trump treatment. In a crowded field, he was the only candidate but Trump to lead.

Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 12:41 PM (rrG3v)

262 I hate autocorrect.

Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 12:42 PM (rrG3v)

263 191 Flounder, TPP HAS NOT BEEN VOTED ON. Cruz has vowed to oppose it when it does come up but you get no points for making incorrect claims.

Maybe, Gunowners of America support Cruz because they did do their homework?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 29, 2016 05:28 PM (NPofj)


You misunderstand (anyone who has researched it knows TPP hasn't been presented yet).  Cruz was for TPA and voted for it, before he was against it, on an unrelated consideration (he cites Ex-Im).  That vote flipped the scipt on the 2/3 majority requirement to affirm Treaties.  GOA notes the risks inherent in such a wide open subject matter Treaty.   I don't remember if the TPP vote will be 51 or less.


Cruz dropped the ball on TPA.  His vote on the Iran deal is even more inexplicable, given that the 98-1 vote didn't need his vote. (He was not the lone dissenter.)

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/09/02/436647276/ minority-rules-capitol-hill-vote-tactics-displayed-in-iran-deal

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 12:42 PM (3dOE/)

264 Son dropped by on his way to lead the Pledge at a Concerned Vets for America dinner tonight.

The keynote speaker is Karen Vaughn, whose son Aaron was one of the SEALs killed in the helicopter that was shot down with SEAL Team Six members aboard.  She's going to speak about the fact the Bammy administration has been less than helpful answering the families' questions about how it happened.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 29, 2016 12:42 PM (FsuaD)

265 Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 05:40 PM (WnCSK) Thanks to you and a couple of others up above. It's got to be galling to Rubio to have Bush out and still can't come close or win in his home state. That would seem to be the end of him. Where are his victories going to come from?

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:43 PM (3myMJ)

266 Another Floridian here: Rubio's a lying little shitweasel. Now I don't mind a politician who lies to achieve his ends. Politics ain't beanbag. But I want him lying to the other guy, not me. At least, not so brazenly. not about something that will give the Donks permanent majorities. He won't get my vote for senator, let alone POTUS.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 29, 2016 12:43 PM (Wckf4)

267 Check out what his kids have to say. Seems the boys are big hunters. Posted by: rickb223 at February 29, 2016 05:40 PM (+058L) ------------------- It's one of his sons that cleaned the rifle that shot Cecile the Lion. Pass it on.

Posted by: Soona at February 29, 2016 12:43 PM (Fmupd)

268 What I hear most are immigration and that he hasn't been showing up to vote. But since the debate, alot fo folks are pissed that he stooped to the level he has. Fighting back against Trump is one thing but not the way he is doing it. The quote often heard is that they would now be "embarrassed" to vote for him. Just what I hear in my little corner... Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 05:40 PM (WnCSK) This seems strange to me, if they are then saying they would vote for Trump. If they think he has stooped too low by attacking Trump personally, well, isn't that kind of Trump's MO? Or rather is it the way he attacked Trump with the giggly beatnik shtick?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 29, 2016 12:43 PM (iHjB5)

269 Lauren - not as much as I do

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 12:43 PM (fizMZ)

270 You can't trust politicians, but I do believe Cruz will do as much as he can - that he said he would do. I figure Cruz would suck the least in office - even Reagan wasn't Ronaldus Magnus that people build him up to be. But I'd still rather Cruz not be in office next year. I think things are going to go very horrible, very soon.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 29, 2016 12:44 PM (39g3+)

271 I want to know what happened to the Cruz turnout machine???? I am suspicious that it was mostly a crock of shit really. I mean how can something like that just totally evaporate after Iowa. I wonder how good some of Cruz's campaign people really were/are.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:44 PM (WnCSK)

272 Check out what his kids have to say. Seems the boys are big hunters. Have they commented about whether I should be allowed to own my Romanian 75rd drum mag?

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:44 PM (evdj2)

273 The truth does not stop the Donald.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 29, 2016 12:44 PM (DL2i+)

274 Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 05:39 PM (pAlYe) Trump killed Cecil!!!!!

Posted by: Next silly LIV meme at February 29, 2016 12:45 PM (hvf9s)

275 272: Jane, the Bammy crew is less than truthful? Color me shocked. He too is a shitweasel.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 29, 2016 12:45 PM (ucDmr)

276 #278 Then we need someone who will at least try to keep the naked bones of this nation joined. Cruz will. Clinton and Trump wouldn't even think about it.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 29, 2016 12:45 PM (Kucy5)

277 But I'd still rather Cruz not be in office next year. I think things are going to go very horrible, very soon. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 29, 2016 05:44 PM (39g3+) I suspect you mean MORE very horrible . . .

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 12:45 PM (s5o+q)

278 He won't get my vote for senator, let alone POTUS. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 29, 2016 05:43 PM (Wckf4) So, the favorite son thing is a non-starter, thanks for the insight.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:45 PM (3myMJ)

279 Here is a good article on Trump and guns. It turns out that two of his sons are really into hunting. Trump himself despite having guns and a NYC carry permit doesn't seem to 'get' hunting or gun culture. But doesn't seem opposed to it either. One can hope that his sons have some influence on him. Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 05:39 PM (pAlYe) Eric and Don Jr went to Africa on a legal, permit issued, $$$ hunt several years ago and somehow a photo of Don Jr. holding an elephant tail cut off of his successful hunt went viral on the internet. He did not post it. It is making the rounds again with the Bernie bots and the Hillary shrills/SJW's. No context, just what evil bastards these are and Trump because he fathered them. In reality, the elephant was killed in an area that the Zimbabwe government and it's natural resources department had determined needed culled due to overpopulation and they sold hunting permits for major bucks. The cut off tail was presented to the local population whose hunting tradition has them making bracelets out of elephant tails. The meat was also given to the village, which was being terrorized by the over population of bull elephants, and the surrounding forest was being stripped of vegetation. Of course, all this is lost on the LIV.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 29, 2016 12:45 PM (dErES)

280 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 05:42 PM (3dOE/) Thanks for that comment. Those are the reasons I'm only leaning toward Cruz instead of firmly in his camp. Unless I can get a good explanation from him on that, I won't be signing up.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (Wckf4)

281 Jane D'oh - guessing you know there are opinions it was a tit for tat operation that they were given up.

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (fizMZ)

282 I think I've heard Trump mention the certifiably crazy should not get guns.  They commit mass murders ... but the left seems OK with that since for one, they like to use the mass killings for total takeaway of guns.  And two ... civil rights, equal rights for crazies, something like that.

That could open the door to calling any tea partiers or veteran a crazy I guess, as Janet Reno or others are wont to do.  But those under psychiatric care probably need to have their doctor allowed to report without fear of reprisal.

Trump got confused on "assault weapon" in 2000, when we were still safe.  But he had the right idea then ... only law abiding would turn in guns, so no.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (eUbDe)

283 I watched the special on Trump's sons and their hunting hobby some time back and they are pretty big hunters locally and abroad (my hubby does safari's and locals there know Trump's sons well). Apparently their maternal grandfather (the eastern European) was a big time hunter and introduced hunting to them when they were young boys.

Posted by: IC at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (a0IVu)

284 nood

Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (e7T6D)

285 This seems strange to me, if they are then saying they would vote for Trump. If they think he has stooped too low by attacking Trump personally, well, isn't that kind of Trump's MO? My guess is that people expect Trump to be a crass douchebag, but expect better of Rubio, and he failed them. If he's not even going to be the better man, why vote for him?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (39g3+)

286 Trump was opposed to assault weapons because his tiny hands are too small to hold them steady. You know what they say, "tiny hands, tiny...guns". One could even say that he has assault weapon envy.

Posted by: Mario Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (nFdGS)

287 I think things are going to go very horrible, very soon. ----------------- Sadly, I think this is true regardless of who is president.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (kTF2Z)

288 Probably helps Trump that he has been a very prominent part time Florida resident for the last 30+ years. Employer as well.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 29, 2016 12:46 PM (/tuJf)

289 I want to know what happened to the Cruz turnout machine???? I am suspicious that it was mostly a crock of shit really. I mean how can something like that just totally evaporate after Iowa. I wonder how good some of Cruz's campaign people really were/are. Posted by: Skeezix I'm usually suspicious of a "ground game" margin being much more than 2-3 points. Things like knocking on doors in pretty worthless, at least in my experience being a volunteer.

Posted by: Branson at February 29, 2016 12:47 PM (MOVsh)

290 289 Jane D'oh - guessing you know there are opinions it was a tit for tat operation that they were given up.

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 05:46 PM (fizMZ)



Yes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 29, 2016 12:47 PM (FsuaD)

291 We all really need another hobby other than politics

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 12:47 PM (fizMZ)

292 I would say 1) Pro-Life. 2) Religious Liberty / Freedom of Conscience. 3) Gun rights. --- Seems to me your best choices are Cruz or Rubio. Carson's past statements suggests he's weak/naive on guns and Kasich voted for the assault rifle ban while he was in Congress. Trump was funding the same Progressive Democrats who oppose you on all the other three issues. Cruz successfully argued for gun rights in Heller before the SCOTUS. He also successfully defended the constitutionality of the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds. Cruz and Rubio seem to be pretty much the same on life issues, except they differ on tactics, falling on different sides in regards to how best to defund Planned Parenthood. Also, for MTF who cares about Federalism I'd say this: Rick Perry, who was probably the strongest on the 10th Amendment this election cycle, put aside their differences and endorsed Cruz. I think that's significant. Also, Cruz argued (and won) a SCOTUS defending Texas' right to punish Medellin, the scumbag convicted of murdering two girls. This was the case where the UN's judicial body tried to step in after he was convicted. Summary here: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/361385.php

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:47 PM (t5zYU)

293 "It's one of his sons that cleaned the rifle that shot Cecile the Lion." The govt over there is getting ready to shoot 200 lions because the hunters aren't coming anymore due to the bad publicity.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:48 PM (3myMJ)

294 "This seems strange to me, if they are then saying they would vote for Trump. If they think he has stooped too low by attacking Trump personally, well, isn't that kind of Trump's MO? Or rather is it the way he attacked Trump with the giggly beatnik shtick? " The establishment candidate was always "better than that" and played by the polical norms. Trump is different so the fact is the same rules do not always apply whether people admit it or not. As the other poster commented, I think it is mostly that Rubio is perceived as to have deceived them. Trump has not. Yet.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:48 PM (WnCSK)

295 Will Trump's KKK ties lead to a rise in hate-group activity? An expert from SPLC weighs in. Plus, an archaeologist says thousand-year-old cave drawings indicate surging Sen. Rubio was foretold to ancient civilizations. Join me, Ana Navarro, Brenda Vaccaro, Mark Bavaro, Charo, and Stiff the Wonder Carp. Tonight!

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at February 29, 2016 12:48 PM (Ui7Rt)

296 TPP HAS NOT BEEN VOTED ON No but it was voted to fast track TTP Fast-track, or trade promotion authority, will allow the White House to send trade deals to Congress for up-or-down votes. The Senate will not be able to filibuster them, and lawmakers will not have the power to amend them. And THAT is a significant Vote, almost tandemount to passing it And there is no reason to be condescending to people who who need clarification on that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 29, 2016 12:48 PM (mw8Dm)

297 I'm afraid I'm thinking it was

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 12:49 PM (fizMZ)

298 guessing you know there are opinions it was a tit for tat operation that they were given up. -------- What exactly is tat and how do I go about exchanging it for the former?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:49 PM (kTF2Z)

299 Kinda like I feel about the Pope; Anyone who feels worthy of the office is not worthy of the office.

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 29, 2016 12:49 PM (IeXP9)

300 The only wining vote on the Iran deal was to walk out of the Chamber in protest, since the fix was in by the Dems, the RINOs, and the SHILLs. It was a bullshit vote anyway

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 29, 2016 12:50 PM (mw8Dm)

301 292 nood Posted by: Yip Thanks Van Pelt

Posted by: x at February 29, 2016 12:50 PM (nFwvY)

302 We all really need another hobby other than politics You need weekly Noise Therapy, my friend.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 12:50 PM (evdj2)

303 Trump beats Hillary in many of the polls I've seen. He'll destroy her in the general.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence


#LiesLikeTrump

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 29, 2016 12:50 PM (0vdts)

304 245 3
A Trump Administration will be based entirely on common-sense measures.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 29, 2016 04:58 PM (8ZskC)


You have nothing to fear with Donald Trump in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at February 29, 2016 05:36 PM (8iiMU)


I am sold.  The Trump of Doom is upon us.  Repent now.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 12:51 PM (3dOE/)

305 Duke you don't want what they got

Posted by: Skip at February 29, 2016 12:51 PM (fizMZ)

306 Ted Cruz has a large war chest built largely on small donors, like me, who can give again (which I just did today). His burn rate has been better than everyone's - except Trump's - and his cash on hand also exceeds the other candidates. Last I checked it was double Rubio's.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:51 PM (t5zYU)

307 "What exactly is tat and how do I go about exchanging it for the former?" Tat: in most areas, a tattoo. In Jersey, a tit. I knew guy from there who would say, "Look at the tats on that one!" He wasn't talking about ink.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:51 PM (3myMJ)

308 "Cruznadian" Ah, I see. I thought I was talking to someone rational. My mistake.

Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 12:51 PM (rrG3v)

309 " Ted Cruz has a large war chest " Time to start spending a bit of it....

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:52 PM (WnCSK)

310 ACE is beginning to sound like a lot like Glenn Beck

Posted by: Edward Cropper at February 29, 2016 12:52 PM (FfyGI)

311 More amused than annoyed, but dollars to donuts all the conservative pundits and bloggers who decried Journolist have their own anti-Trump equivalent going on right now. Odds on Cruz in the betting markets down to 100 or 150 to 1. Rubio about 30 to 1. Trump is 5/2.

Posted by: VidOmnia at February 29, 2016 12:53 PM (d/Aqa)

312 I believe we should all get behind ace's 1st choice for president : John Kasich.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 29, 2016 12:53 PM (0vdts)

313 8 months until the general election. Go back and look at the primary polling over the last 8 months and tell me how much polling means this far out. Take a good luck at Hill-Bern polling. Most Trump-Hill polls are within the margin of error.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:54 PM (3myMJ)

314 318 " Ted Cruz has a large war chest " Time to start spending a bit of it.... Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 05:52 PM (WnCSK) -- He is. I side-barred this weekend fundraising numbers and ad expenses for Super Tuesday states. You really should take the time to inform yourself.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:54 PM (t5zYU)

315 Posted by: Lauren at February 29, 2016 05:51 PM (rrG3v) Heh.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 12:55 PM (3myMJ)

316 I remember when candidates announced and we were all excited at the depth and experience of the Republican field... Now it's 2AM and we are just trying to pick the least crazy/least diseased/most likely to be born a woman out of the dimly lit dive we are stuck in...

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 29, 2016 12:55 PM (ygh6Q)

317 "Go back and look at the primary polling over the last 8 months and tell me how much polling means this far out." Agreed.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:55 PM (WnCSK)

318 320 More amused than annoyed, but dollars to donuts all the conservative pundits and bloggers who decried Journolist have their own anti-Trump equivalent going on right now. -- No "Journolist" is needed -- it's spontaneous revulsion.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 12:56 PM (t5zYU)

319 "He is. I side-barred this weekend fundraising numbers and ad expenses for Super Tuesday states. You really should take the time to inform yourself. " It was sarcasm...sorry.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:56 PM (WnCSK)

320 Trump's poll numbers will only get worse, the Dems are vetting the crap out of him and he's said a lot of crazy shit over the years.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 29, 2016 12:57 PM (0vdts)

321 >>> Posted by: Maetenloch at February 29, 2016 05:39 ----- For all his flaws and question marks on issues, I do think Trump is pretty solid on 2A only bc of the influence of his sons. Apparently, they were raised as young kids to learn how to hunt by their grandfather, Ivana's father (?). His kids all have alot of influence over him especially his daughter. Hugh Hewitt even gave Ivanka as a reason why we should vote for Trump over Hitlery.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 29, 2016 12:57 PM (2x3L+)

322 Great, I finally get quoted by ace and I managed to piss him off. *Wanders off in search of scotch*

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 12:57 PM (kTF2Z)

323 I believe we should all get behind ace's 1st choice for president : John Kasich. He's the Fruit Ninja!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 29, 2016 12:57 PM (uURQL)

324 I generally like Ace's posts...even when they are devoid of content. I REALLY LOVE (love-can I say love without sounding non straight like??) Ace in the comment section of this smart military blog. That is the place and time where Ace... "brings it" as the kids these days like to say.... That being said... Cruz.... if not Cruz... Trump or Rubio... not going to vote Hillary and I'm not gonna sit this one out and let Hillary squeek in on some stay at home protest vote... not gonna do it.... wouldn't be prudent

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at February 29, 2016 12:58 PM (Qj6zv)

325 Who is Cruz?

Posted by: Drider at February 29, 2016 12:58 PM (6Xbsz)

326 What happened to the Cruz-Trump bromance? People were saying Cruz was playing seventh dimensional tic tac toe or something? He might still get to be Trump's VP but he's going to have to wrestle Chris Christie for it--and Trump is going to throw a pork chop in there... Cruz really needs to take a Midol so he can lose that puffy never lifted a shovel look.

Posted by: President Kim Kardashian Yeezy typing through the spacetime continuum at February 29, 2016 12:58 PM (mcm0N)

327 "You Cruznadians don't need to be upset, you'll always have Canada." What is this?

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 12:59 PM (WnCSK)

328 Misfortune & Pestilence seems like a sad person, who knew?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 29, 2016 12:59 PM (0vdts)

329 You're all repeating yourselves! *mugs for camera as fangirls overreact*

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 29, 2016 12:59 PM (z/Ubi)

330 Nood?  It's FenelonSpoke's Happiness Thread.

I love her and she is a good Christian and reading her thread would probably be good for you.

But right now I am thinking "If you can't say something nice about someone, come sit down next to me."

I already voted.  For Cruz.  On Feb. 20.  I expect Trump to win the nomination.  If he were smart, he would shut up and ride the wave.  But then, this is the guy that chose Joan Rivers to win Celebrity Apprentice when Annie Duke clearly (and I mean CLEARLY) should have won.

If he keeps up this stupid shit, I may not vote (shadows of the Weimar Republic) for the first time in my adult life.



Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 01:00 PM (1ijHg)

331 Lots of wishcasting going on here, including by Ace. Hop on board the Trump Train, horde! It feels good to finally win!

Posted by: VidOmnia at February 29, 2016 01:02 PM (d/Aqa)

332 "You Cruznadians don't need to be upset, you'll always have Canada."

You Trump marks don't need to be upset, but you will be once he's elected and reverts back to the guy he's been for the past 40 years.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 29, 2016 01:04 PM (kf2iZ)

333 273 Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 05:40 PM (WnCSK)

Thanks to you and a couple of others up above.

It's got to be galling to Rubio to have Bush out and still can't come close or win in his home state. That would seem to be the end of him. Where are his victories going to come from?

Posted by: Meremortal at February 29, 2016 05:43 PM (3myMJ)


Minnesota.  Home of Senator Smalley and Jesse the Governor Ventura.

Minnesota is whack.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 01:05 PM (3dOE/)

334 Hop aboard! For abortions and lies served by my trusted staff of illegals and rapists.

Posted by: The Trump Train at February 29, 2016 01:05 PM (0vdts)

335 WE MUST STOP TRUMP!!! *collapses*

Posted by: Petunia's mental well-being at February 29, 2016 01:05 PM (rlfds)

336 Nood? It's FenelonSpoke's Happiness Thread. Not a fan of Prager's thoughts on happiness, but good for her.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 29, 2016 01:07 PM (uURQL)

337 I believe we should all get behind ace's 1st choice for president : John Kasich. Posted by: Dr Spank at February 29, 2016 05:53 PM (0vdts) Second look at Deez Nutz?

Posted by: filbert at February 29, 2016 01:07 PM (s5o+q)

338 Senator Jeff Sessions seems to think that Trump is the one man in the race who can exactly what he is saying. That's good enough for me.

Posted by: Drider at February 29, 2016 01:08 PM (6Xbsz)

339 Trump called illegals rapists and such but if they'll cut his lawn at a cheap rate or make his bed, he's good. That's just weird. It's like he doesn't doesn't have a governing philosophy or a core of set beliefs that guide him. Maybe I'm wrong, all I would need is proof to the contrary.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 29, 2016 01:11 PM (0vdts)

340 Senator Jeff Sessions seems to think that Trump is the one man in the race who can exactly what he is saying. That's good enough for me. Posted by: Drider And Trump said the same thing about Romney when he endorsed him in the primary.

Posted by: Branson at February 29, 2016 01:12 PM (MOVsh)

341 Good interview with Sessions at Brietbart .   Soundcloud dot com / Brietbart , today the 29th and also from Sunday's endorsement.


Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 01:12 PM (e7T6D)

342 since I can't post this on the Happy Thread Judge Sides With Apple in Drug Case Involving Locked Phone A federal magistrate judge in New York sided Monday with Apple against the Justice Department, in a legal fight over whether the company can be forced to help investigators extract data from a locked phone--a ruling that could affect a similar, much-watched case over a terrorist's phone in California. The ruling, which could shape the broader battle over privacy, security and technology now being waged between Washington and Silicon Valley, comes a day before the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Apple's top lawyer are due to testify before Congress.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 29, 2016 01:14 PM (qCMvj)

343 I never vote for Democrats, so I'm not voting for Trump. Ever.

Posted by: stace at February 29, 2016 01:16 PM (c80mr)

344 305 TPP HAS NOT BEEN VOTED ON

No but it was voted to fast track TTP

Fast-track, or trade promotion authority, will allow the White House to send trade deals to Congress for up-or-down votes. The Senate will not be able to filibuster them, and lawmakers will not have the power to amend them.

And THAT is a significant Vote, almost tandemount to passing it

And there is no reason to be condescending to people who who need clarification on that.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 29, 2016 05:48 PM (mw8Dm)



That's his stock in trade.  

The other worrying thing is that there is virtually no limitation on subject matter of TPP; only something to the effect that it effect or implicate trade.  It if is any limit like the commerce power, it is no limit whatsoever, except when it is a tax, I guess.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 01:16 PM (3dOE/)

345 Yeah, that new thread is all happiness and unicorns.   Nevermind.

Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 01:17 PM (e7T6D)

346 It just hit me.

You know the story (MPPPP has recited it) of the wrap-up party after the filming of "Bye-Bye Birdie"  Everyone is talking about how wonderful Ann-Margret is and blah, blah blah.  Finally, Shirley Winters gets up and says that Ann-Margret is nice, but she is the only one there that doesn't want to fuck her.

Everyone at Fox News wants to fuck Megyn Kelly.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 01:19 PM (1ijHg)

347 Littlerobo...  this place is one of the only that haven't gone nuts. 

Posted by: Yip at February 29, 2016 01:26 PM (e7T6D)

348 I think littlerobo's comment got deleted. 

I don't that comment was offensive.  Perhaps there is a history that I am not aware of.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 29, 2016 01:29 PM (1ijHg)

349 Rubio seems to do a lot of working for something in public but then working behind the scenes to defeat it. Hmmm, I'm sensing a pattern.

Posted by: Abby Normal at February 29, 2016 01:30 PM (75ph3)

350 Someone needs to tell Marco that he doesn't do comedy well.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 01:33 PM (kTF2Z)

351 350 Someone needs to tell Marco that he doesn't do comedy well.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 06:33 PM (kTF2Z)


After March 15, preferably.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, submariner at February 29, 2016 01:37 PM (3dOE/)

352 "I never vote for Democrats, so I'm not voting for Trump. Ever." So if he is the nominee, then you will go away right? I mean since you are not voting and all then who gives a dman about your input.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 29, 2016 01:38 PM (WnCSK)

353 I love it when noobs start pushing around long-time well-liked regulars. Stace will always be welcome here.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 29, 2016 01:43 PM (t5zYU)

354 So if he is the nominee, then you will go away right? I mean since you are not voting and all then who gives a dman about your input. Who the fuck are you, Fucking New guy? How about you take it down a notch?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 01:55 PM (rwI+c)

355 Who knew Cruznadians hated conservatives like Senator Jeff Sessions, Sarah Palin, Sheriff Joe, Phyllis Schlafly, Jerry Falwell Jr, Pat Robertson. so much. Guess it's a good thing the Crubio's won't ever be president.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 29, 2016 01:56 PM (TcGpp)

356 Stace will always be welcome here. Yep..FNG will be gone when the election's over, Stace will still be here.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 01:57 PM (rwI+c)

357 So this happened in case anyone missed it...Trump gets endorsement of NASCAR in particular Georgia natives Bill and Chase Elliot.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gm83x7l

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 29, 2016 02:01 PM (ZbV+0)

358 353 I love it when noobs start pushing around long-time well-liked regulars.

Stace will always be welcome here.


I know. Who do they think they are? Probably some of those derps from HotAir.

Posted by: Mimzey at February 29, 2016 02:02 PM (aRUb8)

359 Hey here is something neato. " Dan Senor who worked for Romney and now Rubio, say he will not vote for Trump and suggest that another Republican will arise to run but not as the Republican nominee. Christy Todd Whitman just said she will vote for Hillary over Trump." ROTFLMAO!! The same people who told us to hold our nose and vote for Romney are going Conservative on is in it's truest form. The feckless, unprincipled, redefined conservatives will, after helping Obama get elected for 8 years as well as them passing every progressive ideal over the 8 years will now vote for the communist old woman because you know. Conservative principles just couldn't be spelled out clear enough over the last 8 years. I seriously love these people.

Posted by: Drider at February 29, 2016 02:03 PM (6Xbsz)

360 We need a wall to keep out the riff-raff-refugees.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 29, 2016 02:03 PM (rwI+c)

361 Thanks, Y-not and Grump. I MAY change my mind if I can be assured that the orangutan will have more than, say, a 20% chance of appointing good judges. With Hildemort the chance is zero.

Posted by: stace at February 29, 2016 02:03 PM (c80mr)

362 Christy Whitman probably vote for Obama. She hasn't been a Republican in a long time I don't believe.

Posted by: MTF at February 29, 2016 02:04 PM (TxJGV)

363 Here's a good guide to each Super Tuesday primary. http://53eig.ht/1TNqZfy

Posted by: MTF at February 29, 2016 02:05 PM (TxJGV)

364 For the life of me I don't get why the GOPe is trying so hard to get Cruz to drop out in favor of Rube-A-Lago, who cannot even win in Florida.

Posted by: MTF at February 29, 2016 02:08 PM (TxJGV)

365 I love the NRA ad campaign highlighting the terrible corruption in Chicago.

Posted by: MTF at February 29, 2016 02:11 PM (TxJGV)

366 322 Great, I finally get quoted by ace and I managed to piss him off.

*Wanders off in search of scotch*

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 05:57 PM (kTF2Z)




Nah...Ace is a great guy. You can't piss him off with a comment. He's not a thin skinner. He's ACE....The One of Spades! I try to dress like him, I like his style so much.....but I just can't quite get into the whole silk scarf thing, yet.

Posted by: Mimzey at February 29, 2016 02:12 PM (aRUb8)

367 364 For the life of me I don't get why the GOPe is trying so hard to get Cruz to drop out in favor of Rube-A-Lago, who cannot even win in Florida.

Posted by: MTF at February 29, 2016 07:08 PM (TxJGV)



They've told you over and over. Rubio and Trump they can "work" with...they're malleable. Cruz has strongly held principles and is too strong in them.

Posted by: Mimzey at February 29, 2016 02:14 PM (aRUb8)

368 from the sidebar: "Why is Open-Borders Zealot Rupert Murdoch Naming Three People He Considers Electable -- Trump, Rubio, and Kasich -- and Leaving Out Cruz?" Because he is right, and Ace got aholt of some tainted Valu-Rite.

Posted by: Barzini in Miami at February 29, 2016 02:15 PM (zmZ2x)

369 guns.... Keep talking Cruz.... Win!!! Simple as that... forest gump

Posted by: gw at February 29, 2016 02:19 PM (dMB3r)

370 368 from the sidebar:

"Why is Open-Borders Zealot Rupert Murdoch Naming Three People He Considers Electable -- Trump, Rubio, and Kasich -- and Leaving Out Cruz?"

Because he is right, and Ace got aholt of some tainted Valu-Rite.

Posted by: Barzini in Miami at February 29, 2016 07:15 PM (zmZ2x)


No...it's because one Open Borders Zealot likes them some other Open Borders Zealots, hence Trump, Rubio and Kasich.

Posted by: Mimzey at February 29, 2016 02:22 PM (aRUb8)

371 So Trump will build a wall, but allow an new Assault Weapons ban. Deport the illegals, but you won't be able to defend yourself. Awesome The old phrase "Stick to the devil you know" comes to mind. Trump is a wildcar d with a questionable past. VOTE CRUZ!

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 29, 2016 02:46 PM (Gl74b)

372 And thanks Mimzey. I was on the road and multitasking and didn't see your comment. I think we had just gotten to the potty stop so I was distracted.

Posted by: stace at February 29, 2016 03:15 PM (ozZau)

373 >>>Sorry, ace, should've been more clear. Wasn't calling you out. Obviously I enjoy your writing or I wouldn't be here so much. What I meant was the constant back and forth in the comments of people yelling past each other over who is the biggest asshole. Plus, stealing feelzhole. ... Late to this -- I'm very sorry I assumed you meant me and jumped down your throat. I've been snapping a lot lately. I sincerely apologize and will try to remember this lesson in the future.

Posted by: Straight Shooting John McCain, Every Six Years, For Three Months at February 29, 2016 03:22 PM (dciA+)

374 oh that was me, sorry, I had a sock name on.

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 03:23 PM (dciA+)

375 sorry duke !

Posted by: ace at February 29, 2016 03:24 PM (dciA+)

376 You're a good man, Charlie Ace

Posted by: pashmr at February 29, 2016 03:30 PM (3aNC4)

377 Thanks, ace. It really bothered me that I pissed you off.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 29, 2016 04:07 PM (kTF2Z)

378 and this could have been *such* an epic flame war...

what the fuck is the Corps coming to?

Posted by: Gunny Zimmerman at February 29, 2016 07:55 PM (ISW4H)

379 This is such bullshit. Rubio wanted to ban guns in parks and this makes him anti-gun?

Posted by: Jim Wilke at February 29, 2016 08:57 PM (FziMK)

380 For what it's worth, my brother (who doesn't care about politics) and I watched the last debate together. After Cruz spoke, he said "this guy is the only guy who makes any sense".

Posted by: Lurker primus at March 01, 2016 02:52 PM (FWLOU)

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