March 31, 2017

Claims that Russia Was "Defnintely" Behind Election Hacking Relies Almost Entirely on Report Commissioned by Democrats From Private (and Partisan) Firm; That Firm Seems to Be Walking Back Its Claims
— Ace

From Hot Air, Jeff Dunetz reports that the security firm "Crowdstrike" is withdrawing the report that the FBI relied so much upon.

Quoting VOA:

U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year’s American presidential election campaign. The shift followed a VOA report that the company misrepresented data published by an influential British think tank.

Tucker Carlson had on a professor who's an expert on Russia last night to debunk the claim that it has been "proven" Russia meddled in our election. I didn't catch his name on the show; I just prayed "Don't be Stephen Cohen, Don't be Stephen Cohen," because he's a rather notorious Russian apologist who thinks Russia is pretty much innocent of everything.

Well, alas, it turns out the professor Carlson was interviewing was in fact Stephen Cohen.

Nonetheless, Cohen's claims here are factual in nature, not so much argumentative, and it seems to me that factual claims must be met with factual rebuttals, not questions about the biases of the person offering those claims.

And I'm not aware of anyone even contesting his factual claims.

Why was a private firm permitted to conduct the analysis which the US government then adopted as its own, exactly?

Would that have something to do with the fact that the DNC wouldn't permit the FBI to conduct its own forensic examination?


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1 first

Posted by: mallfly McCain Graham Cracker at March 31, 2017 10:53 AM (b7fwp)

2 rd

Posted by: Fox at March 31, 2017 10:54 AM (DVC2D)

3 yaaay me. I'll share the good news

Posted by: mallfly McCain Graham Cracker at March 31, 2017 10:54 AM (b7fwp)

4 Defnintely? Are you Crntain?

Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2017 10:54 AM (O7MnT)

5 So. A republic of bananas.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 31, 2017 10:55 AM (AM6Wh)

6 Russia is giving me the vapors

Posted by: Fox at March 31, 2017 10:55 AM (DVC2D)

7 th

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2017 10:55 AM (8XRCm)

8 Clean house....get rid of 'em all...especially the lawyers.

Posted by: BignJames at March 31, 2017 10:56 AM (x9c8r)

9 Its a total lie you know, totally made up

Posted by: Peter Petrovich Konovnitsyn at March 31, 2017 10:56 AM (GPaiX)

10 anyway, Putin sure is getting his money's worth for supporting Trump.

ha ha ha.

Posted by: mallfly McCain Graham Cracker at March 31, 2017 10:56 AM (b7fwp)

11 It only took one election loss to turn Democrats from fellow travelers to full-on John Birchers.

Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2017 10:57 AM (O7MnT)

12 But McCain ...

Posted by: meh at March 31, 2017 10:57 AM (bsDXW)

13 anyway, Putin sure is getting his money's worth for supporting Trump. ha ha ha. On the plus side, there's no President Hilary enforcing a Syrian no-fly zone and shooting down Russian planes.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 31, 2017 10:57 AM (u0s1P)

14 It's poop emoji all the way down.

Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at March 31, 2017 10:57 AM (IG9gl)

15 Tick-tock. The treason charges are getting closer, Donnie. No wacky tweet can distract from THIS!

Posted by: THE Wick Wilson at March 31, 2017 10:58 AM (BMHsU)

16 I think SMOD is more scared of us at this point.

Posted by: Max Power at March 31, 2017 10:58 AM (q177U)

17 http://bit.ly/2nIywlJ ---- NSA Set to Provide Classified Communications Intercepts to House Committee ---- Anyone else see this one this morning ?

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 31, 2017 10:58 AM (y3aQB)

18 Why was a private firm permitted to conduct the analysis which the US government then adopted as its own, exactly? Because Fuck You. That's why.

Posted by: Director Comey at March 31, 2017 10:58 AM (XWkhW)

19 >>>Why was a private firm permitted to conduct the analysis which the US government then adopted as its own, exactly? Would that have something to do with the fact that the DNC wouldn't permit the FBI to conduct its own forensic examination?<<< It's ok. We were too busy investigating team Trump to analyze this.

Posted by: James Comestain's FBI at March 31, 2017 10:58 AM (QrBXe)

20 Trump just got richer

Posted by: Lord Sir x at March 31, 2017 10:59 AM (nFwvY)

21 FireEye is one of the cyber consultancies that testified at yesterday's Senate hearing on Russia. I didn't see it, but looked at their prepared opening statement: "Let me now turn to explaining why we assess that the Russian government was likely behind this activity. In order to make such an assessment, we reviewed and compared intrusion methodologies and tools, malware or authored exploits and use of shared personnel. We also examined forensic details that were left behind, such as the specific IP addresses or email addresses from spear phishing attacks, file names, MD5 hashes, timestamps, custom functions, encryption algorithms, or backdoors that may have command and control IP addresses or domain names embedded. *** The size of the infrastructure, the targeted information, the amount of malware and the totality of the sophistication, suggests a long-term, well-resourced espionage campaign in which Russia is the benefactor. " I'm just an Ignoramus, but it reads like they're saying it looks like the Russians, therefore it must be the Russians. Meanwhile today's WikiLeak is about how the CIA masks its own hacking to look like it was the Russians, Chinese or North Koreans

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 10:59 AM (SIY7D)

22 I have always been skeptical about the Russian hackers claim. Its not that they couldn't have, its just that they never had anything solid just "it looked like Russian-style technique: which is so easy to spoof its ridiculous. My guess is Chinese, if any foreign nation was behind it. They're the most active against us. What annoys me most is that people who cling to this conspiracy theory are the ones who refuse, refuse to understand the difference between the Wikileaks Podesta email release, and the hack of the DNC. They think its the same, so its all tainted. Which is the entire point of all this, to get people to stop paying attention to the content of the emails which is incredibly damning and embarrassing to both the DNC and the legacy media.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 10:59 AM (39g3+)

23 >>Would that have something to do with the fact that the DNC wouldn't permit the FBI to conduct its own forensic examination?


THAT is EXACTLY what the Russians would have you believe.

Posted by: MSM at March 31, 2017 10:59 AM (GX63o)

24 Russians : When You Absolutely, Positively Need To Scape Your Goat.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 10:59 AM (fLMbU)

25 It only took one election loss to turn Democrats from fellow travelers to full-on John Birchers. Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2017 03:57 PM It's the old switcheroo! Yesterday: Ha ha. Those republicans see Russians under their beds. Today: There's a Russian under my bed!!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 31, 2017 10:59 AM (IqV8l)

26 Anybody that knew anything about hacking pretty much immediately dismissed the claim as a bit TOO CONFIDENT.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 10:59 AM (xeeHA)

27 I know some shit goes on every election but this was the whackiest yet.Is it because the Left has gone completely batshit?Yes.

Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2017 10:59 AM (r/0kC)

28 Why was a private firm permitted to conduct the analysis which the US government then adopted as its own, exactly? ------------------ When your mistress's uncle's friend's neighbor's cousin's tranny next door neighbor owns it, they will say anything you want them to say.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 31, 2017 11:00 AM (vg8iE)

29 I hate to be "that guy" but I've been pointing this out for months. NYT or someone reported as an aside that the FBI never actually investigated the DNC hacks, Crowdstrike did. The COO of which works and lives in DC and seems to make a living going on the speakers circuit talking about the russian cyber security threat. Guy was born in the USSR, if that matters.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 31, 2017 11:00 AM (wmaTe)

30 "It seems to me that factual claims must be met with factual rebuttals, not questions about the biases of the person offering those claims" What, are you new here?

Posted by: MSM at March 31, 2017 11:00 AM (GMX1X)

31 Imonna pimp this fascinating article from Imprimis again:

"How to Think About Vladimir Putin" by Christopher Caldwell

Very, very interesting read. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:00 AM (PY9jH)

32 Russia is giving me the vapors Posted by: Fox at March 31, 2017 03:55 PM (DVC2D) Fmr. Congressman Joe Walsh ME TOO!! And I'm going to spend another whole show on this and how it's worst thing EVER!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:00 AM (493sH)

33 *BREAKING* We have exclusive coverage starting now and running full time 24/7 of an actual video of President Trump saying the word, "Russia" to one of his aides. Anderson Cooper will feature the clip in slow motion with a panel of experts later this evening.

Posted by: CNN at March 31, 2017 11:00 AM (k7fBu)

34 Crowdstrike is a very noble company and is above reproach.

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at March 31, 2017 11:00 AM (OD2ni)

35 This is the smoking gun we have been looking for! See the lit Chesterfield dangling out the barrel? Proof!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 31, 2017 11:00 AM (kIxPI)

36 "Private" firm is such a murky concept in Fascism.

Posted by: TexasDan[/i] at March 31, 2017 11:01 AM (yL25O)

37 This is just new information on an old story. We new back in January that the dems refused the FBI to look at their computers.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 11:01 AM (Fmupd)

38 A private investigation only needs one NDA and a healthy bribe. An FBI investigation would require dozens of immunity deals.

Posted by: Sjg at March 31, 2017 11:01 AM (gDSJf)

39 re 11: no, I was a Bircher years ago and it was the Communists we saw under every bed. I believe it was Yeltsin who opened the archives that led to the discovery that Teddy Kennedy had tried to get the Soviets involved in an effort to defeat Reagan in 1984.

Posted by: mallfly McCain Graham Cracker at March 31, 2017 11:01 AM (b7fwp)

40 14 It's poop emoji all the way down.

Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at March 31, 2017 03:57 PM (IG9gl)


Not funny.

Posted by: Al Rocher at March 31, 2017 11:01 AM (GX63o)

41 you answered your own question ace and yes, i do believe you've got it

Posted by: concrete girl at March 31, 2017 11:01 AM (gihfI)

42 unfortunately it is unlikely the people that Need to hear much of this won't . They'll be tuning into cnn instead.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2017 11:02 AM (4lrrm)

43 The DNC got hacked, the big revelations of which were, ironically, how Debbie W-S fucked over Bernie and how debates questions were given to Hillary, and what a dick Podesta is. That's what the Ds are screaming about. It's also not certain it was the Russians. It's only an inference. And it could have been an inside by a disgruntled BernieBot. But if it was an inside job by a BernieBot then presumably he wouldn't need malware to do it. If so, the DNC consulting firm would be lying. Which you could easily check by looking at the DNC server. The one no one -- not even one of the 17 federal spook agencies has had access to. The one that now sleeps with the fishes

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:02 AM (SIY7D)

44 The meme monster may devour its creator. Good Times.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 31, 2017 11:02 AM (jmIQu)

45 willowed on the last thread, but re-poasted, since the subject matter is always on topic here, no matter where in the thread we are... 
---
did someone say "boobies"?

thesun.co.uk/living/3090904/real-women-bare- their-boobs-to-champion-feminism-after-emma-watson-was-slammed- for-topless-shoot-with-vanity-fair/

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 31, 2017 11:02 AM (/GQ6H)

46 They all probably know the truth by now, but you gotta keep up the resistance until they have the new shiny thing to harp about.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 11:02 AM (6Ll1u)

47 The Russians arent taking a gamble on throwing an election unless there is a reasonable chance for success. All the polling had Hillary winning in a landslide. If Donks are insisting that the Russians won the election for Trump, perhaps they and the MFM should use the Russians for their polling.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2017 11:02 AM (8XRCm)

48 I knew the Dems were a pack of filthy liars on this from jump street.  I've managed to tune out most of the non-scandal scandal because it's frustrating to have to constantly refute the hydra-head of lies lefties keep churning out.  

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2017 11:02 AM (43OZ6)

49 Always remember... when ObamaCare website v 1.01 was released by the best and brightest DC had to offer... it took a consortium of programmers donated by capitalists like Apple, MicroSurf, and Red Hat (among others) to straighten that shit out. When the pros start dissecting the evidence -- that's when I'll sit up and pay attention. Until then, they're blowing smoke up our ass.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum [i] at March 31, 2017 11:02 AM (ZFUt7)

50 As I said when this news was first made several months ago -- assuming that Crowdstrike is unreliable, we're back to square 1 right. We have no idea if the DNC was even "hacked." Wikileaks strongly strongly hinted that they were the recipients of a LEAK, not a phishing scam.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 31, 2017 11:03 AM (wmaTe)

51 Why was a private firm permitted to conduct the analysis which the US government then adopted as its own, exactly? Would that have something to do with the fact that the DNC wouldn't permit the FBI to conduct its own forensic examination? -------------- Could be. But the government contracts out all kinds of things. As friggin' big as it is, it doesn't always have the manpower or capability to do things.

Posted by: bluebell at March 31, 2017 11:03 AM (sBOL1)

52 Not that I have any confidence in an FBI computer investigation either...

Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2017 11:03 AM (r/0kC)

53 This Russia BS originated from Scankles as an excuse for losing the election that they thought they had in the bag.  They relied on BS heavily weighted polls just like the MFM and they lost their ass.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 11:03 AM (mpXpK)

54 But the government contracts out all kinds of things. As friggin' big as it is, it doesn't always have the manpower or capability to do things. Posted by: bluebell at March 31, 2017 04:03 PM (sBOL1) The government does not contract out Law Enforcement...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 31, 2017 11:04 AM (NgKpN)

55 If someone is looking for direct state interference in our elections, look no farther than to Mexico. Mexico encourages their citizens to move here, register to vote, encourages them to retain their Mexican passport, encourages them to have both Mexican AND USA passports if at all possible (Jorge Ramos, anyone?) and encourages them to vote as (D). Also encourages them to not show up for jury duty, where they could be arrested. All of this is written out in documents which even I, a retiree, can find in about 5 minutes on the web. Also encourages them to apply for any and all types of welfare and SSI, whether eligible or not. I can't find any record of Russia doing anything like this.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2017 11:04 AM (w7KSn)

56 Democracy Dies in Unsubstantiated Crowd-sourced and Narrative Journalism

Posted by: TexasDan[/i] at March 31, 2017 11:04 AM (yL25O)

57 And they had the nerve to call Benghazi a "phony scandal".

Posted by: Mega at March 31, 2017 11:04 AM (hHFOx)

58 pompous name, "Crowdstrike" is

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2017 11:04 AM (5n/ou)

59 I knew the Dems were a pack of filthy liars on this from jump street. I've managed to tune out most of the non-scandal scandal because it's frustrating to have to constantly refute the hydra-head of lies lefties keep churning out. Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2017 04:02 PM (43OZ6) .............. On CNN (Don Lemon) they have a six-way split screen lieathon evey night.

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 11:04 AM (HgMAr)

60 The scales have been lifted from my eyes and my own government has become an existential threat to my freedom and liberty more so than Russia is or ever was really, certainly since the fall of the Soviet Union. What we have now is one of the greatest okeedokes ever attempted. And it's coming from inside the house perpetrated by a cabal of neomarxist, neo-neo-cons, decrepit war mongers, Deep State operatives and sundry dirty actors.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 31, 2017 11:04 AM (Gh/jd)

61 Why was a private firm permitted to conduct the analysis which the US government then adopted as its own, exactly? Would that have something to do with the fact that the DNC wouldn't permit the FBI to conduct its own forensic examination? Could it be that it was a private firm in order to not reveal sources and methods?

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 11:05 AM (mf5HN)

62 i have yet to have anyone give me a good reason why Russia would want to hack the DNC, let alone stop Shrillery from getting in the White House...

i mean really, who interferes with their allies and supporters?

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 31, 2017 11:05 AM (/GQ6H)

63 Revealing all the Democrats dirty laundry (including them 'hacking the election for Hillary') = 'hacking' the election. Whoever 'hacked' the DNC did not 'hack' the election, only the corrupt party, and that's what the furor is designed to obscure.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 31, 2017 11:05 AM (oVJmc)

64 Always remember... when ObamaCare website v 1.01 was released by the best and brightest DC had to offer... it took a consortium of programmers donated by capitalists like Apple, MicroSurf, and Red Hat (among others) to straighten that shit out. When the pros start dissecting the evidence -- that's when I'll sit up and pay attention. Until then, they're blowing smoke up our ass. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 31, 2017 04:02 PM (ZFUt7) Right. You know who has some of the best security guys in the world on staff? Google. Let's let google (or whoever) look at the information and put their reputation on the line as to whether or not they can say definitively who phished the DNC or Podesta emails. My guess? There's nothing to go on but an IP address. And that means absolutely nothing. In fact, if the phishers used a Russian proxy to carry out their phishing attempts, that leads me to think that whoever was involved was not Russian. Because it would be kind of silly to use a proxy that still points to you, no?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 31, 2017 11:05 AM (wmaTe)

65 All of this is written out in documents which even I, a retiree, can find in about 5 minutes on the web. Also encourages them to apply for any and all types of welfare and SSI, whether eligible or not. Are they still doing those pamphlets for "undocumented" border-crossers? I fail to see how those weren't an act of war.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 31, 2017 11:05 AM (u0s1P)

66 Heh. I just looked at google.  What exactly is the granpa over on the right side doing to the black kid in the "e=" shirt?

Posted by: irright at March 31, 2017 11:05 AM (pMGkg)

67 Through all of this I have yet to hear a single actual thing the Russians affected nor have I heard HOW they tried to affect our 50 state elections.

Posted by: Guy with ashes on forehead at March 31, 2017 11:05 AM (3myMJ)

68 Daily Reminder: Democrats are guided by Satan.

Posted by: Mega at March 31, 2017 11:06 AM (AZcjW)

69 26 Anybody that knew anything about hacking pretty much immediately dismissed the claim as a bit TOO CONFIDENT. Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 03:59 PM ===== Exactly. It was really revealing to see so many vaunted "Infosec experts" and "cybersecurity professionals" running around like idiots , posting all over social media about Russians ....without a single scrap of evidence and knowing full well that Russian servers are the global hacking Disneyland. I guess those folks can spot 'the guilty' from a mile away. Amazing really.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:06 AM (fLMbU)

70 Ace, you're good at language analysis, and it'd be very useful to see a post on this topic: The Left is intentionally relying on confusion over the two definitions of "hacking" in an attempt to mislead the public. Up until about 5 years ago, "hacking" was defined as "doing illegal and surreptitious meddling with a computer." But thena more recent definition has started to become commonplace among the younger crowd: "hacking" to mean a sort of shorthand quick-fix shortcut improvement or alteration of something -- even things that have nothing to do with computers or electronics. Best-known examples are "Life hacks" -- what used to be called "household hints" -- and "job hacks", as well as a wide variety of other terms using "hack" in relation to any kind of activity. "Diet hacks," "I totally hacked a shortcut to school," etc. etc. This is how language evolves - fine. But whe the left says that Russia "hacked" the election, they are INTENTIONALLY confusing the two terms. They want the average person to think that Russia literally hacked the voting machines and produced false vote totals. But when challenged on this obviously false claim, they'd say, "Oh, no, we mean 'hacked' merely in the sense of 'influenced.'" Uh huh. These disingenuous wordgame is at the root of this entire pseudo-scandal.

Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2017 11:06 AM (DQ4Fv)

71 Are they still doing those pamphlets for "undocumented" border-crossers? I fail to see how those weren't an act of war. ---------------------------- Not an act of war when Barry's own government was providing them too.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 31, 2017 11:06 AM (vg8iE)

72 osted by: Kreplach at March 31, 2017 04:04 PM (Gh/jd)

word !  don't question the narrative though, or be called an apologist for a murder

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2017 11:06 AM (5n/ou)

73 Isn't this the January-released fake report that was mirrored verbatim in a fake WaPo piece a month prior in December?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 31, 2017 11:07 AM (KxmPO)

74 Tell, you what. when the Dems run a primary campaign that isn't fixed, then they can ask about other people. Until then, they can STFU.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at March 31, 2017 11:07 AM (a3sfz)

75 There's nothing to go on but an IP address. And that means absolutely nothing. In fact, if the phishers used a Russian proxy to carry out their phishing attempts, that leads me to think that whoever was involved was not Russian. Because it would be kind of silly to use a proxy that still points to you, no? Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 31, 2017 04:05 PM (wmaTe) ------------ Generally speaking, the IP address source you SEE is almost axiomatically NOT who did it. Especially if it is a large, organized actor. This is hacking 101 stuff.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 11:07 AM (xeeHA)

76 >>>I think SMOD is more scared of us at this point.
Posted by: Max Power at March 31, 2017 03:58 PM (q177U)

No, just having fun watching the hard left implode from afar.

Posted by: FunShine SMOD at March 31, 2017 11:07 AM (al6UK)

77 Could it be that it was a private firm in order to not reveal sources and methods? Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 04:05 PM (mf5HN) sources and methods of what? This is not some well known highly respected forensic technology firm or whatever. It's basically a front company for a Russian guy who goes around the DC speaking circuit talking about how terrible Russia is. I'd like to see any one of his staff's qualifications to determine where a phishing attempt originated. Our own government has a very hard / nearly impossible time backtracking beyond proxies, how would these people be able to pull that off?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 31, 2017 11:07 AM (wmaTe)

78 This house of cards is getting shaky...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 31, 2017 11:07 AM (so+oy)

79 Fmr. Congressman Joe Walsh ME TOO!! And I'm going to spend another whole show on this and how it's worst thing EVER!!!! Yeah hes kinda bannanas on the Russian story, will not listen to anyone on it no matter what. Meanwhile, Matt Yglecias tweets: "I think propagating somewhat unhinged Russia-related conspiracy theories is probably smart politics" They know its BS. Its a useful squirrel. NOBODY is talking about the content of the Podesta emails. Nobody, not here, not anywhere.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (39g3+)

80 "Would that have something to do with the fact that the DNC wouldn't permit the FBI to conduct its own forensic examination?"

When the arrests were made at the Watergate break-in both the FBI and the local telephone company went through all the phones to look for bugs. None were found by either group.

Then days later the DNC called up the FBI and said they'd discovered a "bug" on a phone. A phone which had been checked twice by experts. The "bug" was a clunky Radio-Shack parts device with a defective transistor that wouldn't work. It was suspected that the Democrats, to further their narrative, had had some staffer make it up and put it into the phone, but that couldn't be proved.

They learned that night to not let the FBI, or anyone they didn't completely control, to do a search that might blow a hole in their storyline.

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (d3wbb)

81 On CNN (Don Lemon) they have a six-way split screen lieathon evey night.

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 04:04 PM (HgMAr)


How can you stand it?!  I would go utterly mad and probably kill my liberal neighbors to balance out the universe.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (43OZ6)

82 Actually, we wanted hILLRY to win because we could use more uranium.

Posted by: Vlad at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (HgMAr)

83 Didn't I read today that Donna Brazil just claimed that the hacked emails out were fake, after saying before that she regrets what she did. And that gets her a chair on Sunday morning with snuffalufagus, also a impartial journalist.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (6Ll1u)

84 i have yet to have anyone give me a good reason why Russia would want to hack the DNC, let alone stop Shrillery from getting in the White House... i mean really, who interferes with their allies and supporters? As I said upthread (largely in jest), Syria. That being said, my take on it isn't that Putin really preferred one over the other- maybe slightly, I don't know-- but any interference was going to be for the sake of interference. In other words, sowing chaos, eroding faith in our processes, demoralizing a rival, that kind of thing.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (u0s1P)

85 Off SMOD sock.

Posted by: Prudie, also having fun watching from afar at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (al6UK)

86 45 willowed on the last thread, but re-poasted, since the subject matter is always on topic here, no matter where in the thread we are... --- did someone say "boobies"? thesun.co.uk/living/3090904/real-women-bare- their-boobs-to-champion-feminism-after-emma-watson-was-slammed- for-topless-shoot-with-vanity-fair/ Posted by: redc1c4 at March 31, 2017 04:02 PM (/GQ6H) I'm gonna call bullshit here. I studied those VM photos extensively, and Emma Watson was NEVER topless. The loosely knit top was unbuttoned, but that's as far as it got.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (XWkhW)

87 16 I think SMOD is more scared of us at this point. Posted by: Max Power at March 31, 2017 03:58 PM (q177U) LOL!! SMOD: I'm not going anywhere near that pack of nutbags on earth! I'm gonna go hit Planet gxidfngew in Galaxy Q instead!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (s7vJs)

88 Generally speaking, the IP address source you SEE is almost axiomatically NOT who did it. Especially if it is a large, organized actor. This is hacking 101 stuff. Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 04:07 PM (xeeHA) Exactly. I could grab an IP address from anywhere in the world using a free proxy site. A sophisticatedish phisher is undoubtedly using multiple paid proxies to hide their footsteps. Most of these phishing groups are committing all kinds of identity theft and wire fraud. They have huge incentive to stay hidden from American (and other) law enforcement.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (wmaTe)

89 If Donks are insisting that the Russians won the election for Trump, perhaps they and the MFM should use the Russians for their polling. Posted by: fixerupper at March 31, 2017 04:02 PM (8XRCm) In the 80's, Satanic Ritual Abuse was considered a real thing, and frequently the best proof that SRA was real was that there was never any evidence. Because we KNOW there was a crime. Who but Satan could leave absolutely no evidence??!!?!? I think this is a lot like that. The Dems KNOW there was a crime, and that crime is that Hillary stole the election. The only people clever enough to do that without any of us knowing how or leaving any trace are the Russians. QED.

Posted by: TexasDan[/i] at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (yL25O)

90 I guess those folks can spot 'the guilty' from a mile away. Amazing really. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 04:06 PM (fLMbU) ----------- They are freaking WIZARDS, I tell you.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 11:08 AM (xeeHA)

91 81 I tune in Don Lemon every night for a minute to check the Brillo skullcap. Some nights he doesn't do a very good job of spraying on the front half.

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 11:09 AM (HgMAr)

92 The one major overriding factor that has never been mentioned is how exactly the Russians were supposed to hack the election to cause Trump to win.  It is basically impossible to hack hundreds of thousands of voting machines in  tens of thousands of locations.


All you ever hear is "Russian hacked the election".  Nobody bothers to ask some real questions.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 11:09 AM (mpXpK)

93 During the hearings one of the R senators asked why in December 2016 WaPo had published a verbatim excerpt of an FBI report from January 2017. Comey laughed! And responded that it was indeed weird. Yeah, weird. Haha. No follow up by the fake news, of course.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 31, 2017 11:10 AM (KxmPO)

94 Stephen Cohen is a man of the left (married to Katrina van den Heuvel of The Nation). So if he says the claims about Russian meddling -- which delegitimize the Trump election -- are bogus, that's what we lawyers might call an admission against interest, and hence something that ought to be viewed with more credibility than you might otherwise view something coming from him.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at March 31, 2017 11:10 AM (qHCyt)

95 Still not really sure how if Russia did expose some true email corrspondence, it somehow negates the election. I'm also wondering how much energy Republicans should really expend rebutting all of this, Russian fear is not resonating with the public at large. Maybe just focus on the agenda at hand and ignore this. The only people this seems to be for the benefit of is the NeoCon NeverTrump wing of the GOP that seems to be obsessed with it.

Posted by: Maritime at March 31, 2017 11:11 AM (A17+m)

96 Not an act of war when Barry's own government was providing them too. Point taken, but IIRC they (okay, maybe it wasn't the Mexican govt per se, but maybe an NGO or nonprofit, I don't really remember) were doing that during or maybe before Barry was elected. Just because you don't respond to or care about an antagonistic act doesn't make that act not antagonistic.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 31, 2017 11:11 AM (u0s1P)

97 Stephen Cohen is a man of the left (married to Katrina van den Heuvel of The Nation).


Yeesh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:11 AM (PY9jH)

98 What annoys me most is that people who cling to this conspiracy theory are the ones who refuse, refuse to understand the difference between the Wikileaks Podesta email release, and the hack of the DNC. DNC = Hacked Election = Not hacked. No vote totals were changed by the Russians. Intentional obfuscation/ outright lying of the two terms.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at March 31, 2017 11:11 AM (4Utw1)

99 Have there been any stories of Hillary's campaign staff still waiting to be paid long after the election is over like there were in 2008?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 31, 2017 11:11 AM (vg8iE)

100 Why am I the only one who remembers that? Why am I the only one who thought it was worth noting?? WaPo, or maybe it was another fake news org, published a verbatim excerpt from an FBI report that wasn't even supposebly written yet! And Comey laughed demurely and coyly when asked about it!!

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 31, 2017 11:12 AM (KxmPO)

101 I still want every defender of Trump to preface every claim of Russia's interference with our election with the story of Obama's funding of Israeli groups trying to unseat Netanyahu.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 31, 2017 11:12 AM (9KUj4)

102 60 The scales have been lifted from my eyes and my own government has become an existential threat to my freedom and liberty more so than Russia is or ever was really, certainly since the fall of the Soviet Union. What we have now is one of the greatest okeedokes ever attempted. And it's coming from inside the house perpetrated by a cabal of neomarxist, neo-neo-cons, decrepit war mongers, Deep State operatives and sundry dirty actors. Posted by: Kreplach at March 31, 2017 04:04 PM (Gh/jd) Yup.... I am much more concerned about the Spy Agencies of THIS country involving themselves in elections, than I am about Russian's interfering... Because one we have PROOF of... in the leaked Flynn stuff... in Comey statements... in other leaked crap...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 31, 2017 11:12 AM (NgKpN)

103 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 04:09 PM (mpXpK) Yes, as I asked (with an sock on) in #67. Glad someone else noticed. WHAT the hell did they do, exactly?

Posted by: Meremortal ,, at March 31, 2017 11:12 AM (3myMJ)

104 >>Would that have something to do with the fact that the DNC wouldn't permit the FBI to conduct its own forensic examination?


Heh, yeah...about that. Nothing fishy there!

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 31, 2017 11:12 AM (NOIQH)

105 There's nothing to go on but an IP address. And that means absolutely nothing. In fact, if the phishers used a Russian proxy to carry out their phishing attempts, that leads me to think that whoever was involved was not Russian. Because it would be kind of silly to use a proxy that still points to you, no? Posted by: Harry Paratestes Absolutely. I don't go looking for trouble -- because coward -- but I'm sure I could find a proxy server in any of the former soviet republics, or Russia itself within five minutes. And the guy in Israel who was phoning in the bomb threats to Jewish entities here in the USA? Genius stuff. It took them a month just to track the country it was coming from. If he had proxied up they might never have found him. He was probably confident being behind about six levels of deception and didn't think a seventh was necessary.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum [i] at March 31, 2017 11:13 AM (ZFUt7)

106 92 The one major overriding factor that has never been mentioned is how exactly the Russians were supposed to hack the election to cause Trump to win. It is basically impossible to hack hundreds of thousands of voting machines in tens of thousands of locations. All you ever hear is "Russian hacked the election". Nobody bothers to ask some real questions. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party See? You yourself are a victim of the wordgames described in comment #70.

Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2017 11:13 AM (DQ4Fv)

107 but muh 17 intelligence agencies and their, I assume, 17 separate, thorough investigations. Why are you anti-intelligence community?

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 31, 2017 11:13 AM (55//3)

108 21 I'm just an Ignoramus, but it reads like they're saying it looks like the Russians, therefore it must be the Russians. Meanwhile today's WikiLeak is about how the CIA masks its own hacking to look like it was the Russians, Chinese or North Koreans Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 03:59 PM (SIY7D) This is not the coincidence you are looking for.

Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2017 11:13 AM (zoehZ)

109 It's been Barzini all along.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 11:13 AM (Fmupd)

110 Still not really sure how if Russia did expose some true email corrspondence, it somehow negates the election. It doesn't. What it DOES do is keep the LIV's confused.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at March 31, 2017 11:13 AM (4Utw1)

111 Seth Rich could not be reached for comment.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 31, 2017 11:14 AM (NOIQH)

112 Russians : When You Absolutely, Positively Need To Scape Your Goat.

Is goatscaping anything like manscaping?  Asking for friend.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 31, 2017 11:14 AM (4WhSY)

113 The October surprise we didn't get was Hillary's 33,000 deleted e-mails. I'd bet the Russians have them and were going to use them to blackmail her, because she was certain to win after the real October surprise ... Which was Pussygate. Which required the illegal leaking of a private conversation by MSM in a hit job co-ordinated with the Hillary campaign. Hillary's Mooks knew this would kill Trump's campaign and even drive him from the race. Which is why they started to chilling the champagne early, and forgot to visit swing states.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:14 AM (SIY7D)

114 All you ever hear is "Russian hacked the election". Nobody bothers to ask some real questions. If you press them on it they mumble stuff like "Russian bots on social media and websites lying about Hillary." That's it, that's literally all they got. Look, I get people being opposed to foreign governments meddling in US elections. Its annoyed me for a long time, and it didn't start this election. Russia has been trying to influence US elections since at least the 30s. Almost every major nation on earth tries to manipulate US elections, sometimes pretty openly. And the US does so blatantly and quite openly (witness Obama's fail in trying to fix the Israeli election). I don't like it, it annoys me, but it happens every single election.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 11:14 AM (39g3+)

115 i have yet to have anyone give me a good reason why Russia would want to hack the DNC, let alone stop Shrillery from getting in the White House... i mean really, who interferes with their allies and supporters? Posted by: redc1c4 at March 31, 2017 04:05 PM (/GQ6H) Because she sold them ONLY 20% of our uranium. So hack!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:14 AM (493sH)

116 I'd like to see any one of his staff's qualifications to determine where a phishing attempt originated. Our own government has a very hard / nearly impossible time backtracking beyond proxies, how would these people be able to pull that off? ===== Yep. Ever play with open source hacking tools? You can clone a webmail page , send a realistic looking email from "tech support" instructing users to click on the Webmail link and enter their credentials due to an "upgrade" or whatever and kick back and wait for the usernames and passwords for 80% of a business to populate your harvester file. But definitely , I think that the Dems should waste many many thousands more hours chasing teh evil Rooskis. For revenge. Or something

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:14 AM (fLMbU)

117 I don't really remember) were doing that during or maybe before Barry was elected. W, not Barry. Durrr.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at March 31, 2017 11:14 AM (u0s1P)

118 It doesn't. What it DOES do is keep the LIV's confused. Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2017 04:13 PM (4Utw1) Well that's not very difficult to do

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:15 AM (493sH)

119 >>The one major overriding factor that has never been mentioned is how exactly the Russians were supposed to hack the election to cause Trump to win.


Hush now, Vic! You're not supposed to notice that, just get really mad a Trump for "stealing" the election from First Woman President Inevitable, Hillary!

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 31, 2017 11:15 AM (NOIQH)

120 See? You yourself are a victim of the wordgames described in comment #70. Posted by: zombie You win the intertubes for today with #70.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at March 31, 2017 11:16 AM (4Utw1)

121 Mexico even sends voter guides down to the county level, suggestions of whom to vote for. Looking at the political landscape of California, seems to me like it is working. The Democrats have basically replaced the electorate, negating your vote.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2017 11:16 AM (w7KSn)

122 I'm gonna call bullshit here. I studied those VM photos extensively, and Emma Watson was NEVER topless. The loosely knit top was unbuttoned, but that's as far as it got.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 31, 2017 04:08 PM (XWkhW)
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i'll take your word for that, but there ARE boobies at the link i poasted...

because i'm a giver.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 31, 2017 11:16 AM (/GQ6H)

123 Russia Was "Defnintely" Behind Election Hacking I'm still confused about this "election hacking" term. What exactly did this "hacking" do? No machines or ballots were altered (and certainly less than what the DNC or voter fraud did themselves). And the DNC and Hillary campaign were actually guilty of the abuses/crimes reported. So how, other than obfuscation and blame displacement to help the media redirect blame to Not Democrats, does this "Russian hacking" change an election? How about we quit entertaining this fraudulent squirrel and return to requesting an investigative commission on Hillary!'s illegal server and CGI pay-for-play?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 31, 2017 11:17 AM (1CroS)

124 >>i mean really, who interferes with their allies and supporters?



"Uhhhh..." *looks around furtively*
-- TFG

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 31, 2017 11:17 AM (NOIQH)

125 Fox just ran a promo for Tucker's show tonight.  NSA whistleblower to be on.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:17 AM (PY9jH)

126 The one major overriding factor that has never been mentioned is how exactly the Russians were supposed to hack the election to cause Trump to win. Jill Stein: Send me some money and I'll come up with some theories.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:17 AM (493sH)

127 Top headline on Yahoo news right now "Melania Trump should divorce President says Rosie O'Donnel" It's an insult to #FakeNews to call this #FakeNews

Posted by: Dancing Queen at March 31, 2017 11:18 AM (lZaEn)

128 To my knowledge, Wikileaks is still maintaining that the Hillary! emails they received were leaked by a pissed off BernieBro over how she gave Bernie the shaft. As for the Russians- like any other country, they will put their interests before ours. I don't believe they hacked election machines and started turning Hillary! votes into Trump votes. And I'm perfectly happy to go back to paper ballots if it can be shown that someone can hack the electronic voting machines.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 31, 2017 11:18 AM (6n332)

129 >>i mean really, who interferes with their allies and supporters?


Let's ask Israel how they feel about Tahiti Boy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:18 AM (PY9jH)

130 But as Dennis Prager says "Being on the Left means you never have to say your sorry ( in this case the total bullshit of Russian involvement)

Posted by: Peter Petrovich Konovnitsyn at March 31, 2017 11:18 AM (GPaiX)

131 Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. 
But, we never hear anything about a pathological thief, currency manipulator, land grabber, no-good punk China.  Why  ?

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2017 11:18 AM (5n/ou)

132 >>>the NeoCon NeverTrump wing of the GOP that seems to be obsessed with it the guy who likes to start sentences with, "my friends"

Posted by: concrete girl at March 31, 2017 11:18 AM (gihfI)

133 I didn't read #70.  I generally skip posts that have more than a screen full of length. TMI

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

134 If you press them on it they mumble stuff like "Russian bots on social media and websites lying about Hillary." That's it, that's literally all they got. Look, I get people being opposed to foreign governments meddling in US elections. Its annoyed me for a long time, and it didn't start this election. Russia has been trying to influence US elections since at least the 30s. Almost every major nation on earth tries to manipulate US elections, sometimes pretty openly. And the US does so blatantly and quite openly (witness Obama's fail in trying to fix the Israeli election). I don't like it, it annoys me, but it happens every single election. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 04:14 PM (39g3+) and theres not proof of either of those things a) happening b) effecting the election in any way We can speculate that some of the trollbots floating around comment sections of webpages were Russians (possible) but I've seen no proof of it. I've also never seen any proof that people change their votes based on what trollbot commenter says on a webpage. That's the thing -- there is NOTHING the left can point to to substantiate ANY of their claims re: Russians and our election.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 31, 2017 11:19 AM (wmaTe)

135 123 Russia Was "Defnintely" Behind Election Hacking I'm still confused about this "election hacking" term. What exactly did this "hacking" do? No machines or ballots were altered (and certainly less than what the DNC or voter fraud did themselves). And the DNC and Hillary campaign were actually guilty of the abuses/crimes reported. So how, other than obfuscation and blame displacement to help the media redirect blame to Not Democrats, does this "Russian hacking" change an election? Posted by: AnonymousDrivel See comment #70.

Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2017 11:19 AM (DQ4Fv)

136 The only confirmed attempted "hack of the election" was from the Obama administration trying to hack various state election agencies.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 11:19 AM (eSx+E)

137 Idiot reporter that I listened to today was absolutely stuttering over porting on the Russia hearing.. She was scrambling to come up with something and blurted out "hacker fake news Russian influence elections" like six times. That was the entire news story. It wasn't grammatical. Barely even English. These folks have completely lost it.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:19 AM (fLMbU)

138 I'd still like to know why TFG's minions were hacking into our voting machines here in Georgia. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:20 AM (PY9jH)

139 Let's ask Israel how they feel about Tahiti Boy.
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as if TFG ever thought of Israel as an ally...

his hatred of the state of Israel and Jews in general is obvious to anyone with an IQ larger than their hat size.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 31, 2017 11:20 AM (/GQ6H)

140 I knew "the DNC got hacked by the Russians" story was bullshit when ValJar got 17 federal spook agencies to weigh in. I mean, FFS, come on. The Coast Guard? The Department of Energy? Piling on! And I all they did was read the outside DNC consultant report that said "it looks like the Russians, therefore it must be the Russians."

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:21 AM (SIY7D)

141 I'd still like to know why TFG's minions were hacking into our voting machines here in Georgia. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 04:20 PM (PY9jH) And Indiana.

Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2017 11:21 AM (b6jcm)

142 Why was a private firm permitted to conduct the analysis which the US government then adopted as its own, exactly? Would that have something to do with the fact that the DNC wouldn't permit the FBI to conduct its own forensic examination? ********************* Maybe because the leak is coming from inside their house.

Posted by: Bernie's Berries at March 31, 2017 11:21 AM (fi5nC)

143 If you press them on it they mumble stuff like "Russian bots on social media and websites lying about Hillary." Vicious memes! LOLcats! Bad Lip Readings!!!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 31, 2017 11:21 AM (oVJmc)

144 Maybe because the leak is coming from inside their house. Then WHO PHONE?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 31, 2017 11:22 AM (KxmPO)

145 Our own government has a very hard / nearly impossible time backtracking beyond proxies, how would these people be able to pull that off? Posted by: Harry Paratestes I want to see our intel agencies try to deliver a subpoena for records to some Mom and Pop proxy server in Russia. Nyet! Here in the USA? Don't try it. I'm serious, don't even think about it. You want to do something nefarious, the proxy peeps will dime you out in a minute. So where do do the bad guys go? Someplace safe. Period.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum [i] at March 31, 2017 11:22 AM (ZFUt7)

146 Heh. Tucker asked one of his guests to name some of the 17 agencies. He couldn't do it. Hilarious.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:22 AM (fLMbU)

147

 

Why are you anti-intelligence community?

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 31, 2017 04:13 PM (55//3)

 

 

 

Anyone who questions the integrity of our intellignce community is a traitor

Posted by: Ralph Peters at March 31, 2017 11:22 AM (lKyWE)

148 To my knowledge, Wikileaks is still maintaining that the Hillary! emails they received were leaked by a pissed off BernieBro over how she gave Bernie the shaft.
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Wikileaks has only said it was not Russia, AFAIK.

One of Julian Assange's allies, who I think is in British Intelligence said it was a Bernie Bro.

There are a lot of rumors it was the DNC official who was murdered in DC not long after wikileaks started publishing the info.

He was mugged of course...even though the mugger shot him and did NOT take his wallet or his watch....

Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 11:22 AM (eSx+E)

149 I have a sneaking suspicion that the dems are becoming very sorry for opening this can of worms.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 11:22 AM (Fmupd)

150 dammit. we were getting so much free publicity.

Posted by: Starbucks Moscow at March 31, 2017 11:23 AM (HgMAr)

151 >>The only confirmed attempted "hack of the election" was from the Obama administration trying to hack various state election agencies.



And Obama telling illegals to vote.
And the DNC hack who was taped by Project Veritas explaining how they've bussing people over state borders to vote multiple times for decades.
And the Detroit electors who signed off on vote totals that were way off from actual ballots collected.
And....

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 31, 2017 11:23 AM (NOIQH)

152 The crazy Progs got to McCaskill. She's not voting for Gorsuch and will be back filibuster. Nevertheless, McCain will persist and make sure the Dem's are successful.

Posted by: WisRich at March 31, 2017 11:23 AM (hdpay)

153 And I'm perfectly happy to go back to paper ballots if it can be shown that someone can hack the electronic voting machines. Posted by: Darth Randall at March 31, 2017 04:18 PM (6n332) ----------- It is simply indisputable that "someone" can "hack" electronic voting machines. If it is a computer, you can hack it. That being said, I doubt there was widespread tampering with those machines because the vast majority of ways you could hack them would leave a trail in log files that would get you caught. Probably.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 11:23 AM (xeeHA)

154 It's just a weird debate to get into, because if the "conspiracy' turns out to be true, what then? I mean if Russia did hack Hillary crony email accounts and then exposed them to embarass her, what comes of that? You don't think Carlos Slim owning the NEw York Times has some MAJOR Mexico government meddling in our election? If you had smoking gun evidence that the MExican government tried its damndest to get Hillary across the finish line and did, I wouldn't somehow think that means we get a new election. Democrats really think there's going to be some piece of paper that turns up that undoes the election.

Posted by: Maritime at March 31, 2017 11:24 AM (A17+m)

155 Yesterday: Ha ha. Those republicans see Russians under their beds. Today: There's a Russian under my bed!!! I look forward to Adam Schiff's speech about the Russians taking the Purity of Our Essence through our precious bodily fliuids.

Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2017 11:24 AM (O7MnT)

156 Orrrrrrr.... The country is being run by a bunch of self-interested twits who really don't know anything about anything other than what they heard at a Beltway cocktail party.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 31, 2017 11:24 AM (B+qrE)

157 Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
But, we never hear anything about a pathological thief, currency manipulator, land grabber, no-good punk China. Why ?


Because the Moaists beat out the Leninists for control of the press?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 31, 2017 11:24 AM (4WhSY)

158 The Russian hacking story was a shitshow from day one. How anyone ever really bought this story is a mystery. I doubt anyone other than leftist hacks ever believed this story. (and the nevertrump right in a small %)

Posted by: USNtakim at March 31, 2017 11:25 AM (hMqvx)

159 Poopers.

Posted by: Meremortal ,,. at March 31, 2017 11:25 AM (3myMJ)

160 hacker fake news Russian influence elections
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You mean like in 2004-8 when the Saudis planted fake news in American media about how Bush/McCain were going to bring back the draft, start a nuclear war in the middle east, and criminalize opposition to the WoT?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 11:25 AM (eSx+E)

161 >>There are a lot of rumors it was the DNC official who was murdered in DC not long after wikileaks started publishing the info.


Seth Rich. Assange helped the rumors by tweeting about him without technically admitting he was the source.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 31, 2017 11:25 AM (NOIQH)

162 Anyone who questions the integrity of our intellignce community is a traitor Posted by: Ralph Peters I heard this piece of shit say this last night....again. Ralph Peters is a Federal Ball Washer. He's a Federal Jock Sniffer.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 31, 2017 11:25 AM (KxmPO)

163 I'd still like to know why TFG's minions were hacking into our voting machines here in Georgia. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 04:20 PM (PY9jH) And Indiana. Posted by: troyriser I think, at that point, they were desperate. To do what? I don't think even they knew.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at March 31, 2017 11:25 AM (4Utw1)

164 "Which was Pussygate. Which required the illegal leaking of a private conversation by MSM in a hit job co-ordinated with the Hillary campaign.

 Posted by: Ignoramus"

About that.  Wasn't that conversation recorded at NBC Studios, in California?  You know, that same state that recently filed 5 felony charges against the group that made the Planned Parenthood tape for recording them?

Posted by: Ripley at March 31, 2017 11:26 AM (1BQGO)

165 Democrats really think there's going to be some piece of paper that turns up that undoes the election. Posted by: Maritime You mean like a birth certificate? The more things change...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 31, 2017 11:26 AM (9krrF)

166 I look forward to Adam Schiff's speech about the Russians taking the Purity of Our Essence through our precious bodily fliuids. I've wondered if they centered on the Russians because they thought we stupid right-wing retards would go all Joe McCarthy and swallow it lock, stock and barrel.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 31, 2017 11:26 AM (oVJmc)

167 Anyone who questions the integrity of our intellignce community is a traitor Posted by: Ralph Peters at March 31, 2017 04:22 PM (lKyWE) Ralph sounds like he's becoming unhinged.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:26 AM (493sH)

168 And here's a message from Me to the US intelligence community: FUCK YOU. Get your act together, you Shits, and remember who you work for.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 31, 2017 11:26 AM (KxmPO)

169 That being said, I doubt there was widespread tampering with those machines because the vast majority of ways you could hack them would leave a trail in log files that would get you caught. Probably.
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Well, we do know that in Detroit there were more votes cast then eligible voters....

Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 11:26 AM (eSx+E)

170 >>There are a lot of rumors it was the DNC official who was murdered in DC not long after wikileaks started publishing the info.


Seth Rich. Assange helped the rumors by tweeting about him without technically admitting he was the source.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2017 04:25 PM (NOIQH)

=====================



It would seem painfully obvious that Seth Rich was the source.  Sometimes the most likely answer is the one right under our noses.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:27 AM (PY9jH)

171 >>>>>Why was a private firm permitted to conduct the analysis which the US government then adopted as its own, exactly?
.
.
.
.Because the DNC twice  refused to let the FBI examine it's allegedly hacked server,  and then they destroyed it. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 31, 2017 11:27 AM (le7jz)

172 So where do do the bad guys go? Someplace safe. Period. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 31, 2017 04:22 PM (ZFUt7) -------------- I've heard Tahiti is nice.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 11:27 AM (Fmupd)

173 I figured straight away 17 security agencies all read the same damn report

Posted by: Skip at March 31, 2017 11:27 AM (GPaiX)

174 Today: There's a Russian under my bed!!! .......... Fuckers are controlling my gophers, too.

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 11:27 AM (HgMAr)

175 The only confirmed attempted "hack of the election" was from the Obama administration trying to hack various state election agencies. ==== Yep. Jane is right. DHS was all up in Georgia's servers on election night. Want to know what the left is up to ? They are exactly what they accuse others of being.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:27 AM (fLMbU)

176 Because the Moaists beat out the Leninists for control of the press? Posted by: Blanco Basura Pretty much, the American Left is more aligned with (and bought by) China than Russia these days. It was all they had after the USSR faceplanted...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 31, 2017 11:27 AM (9krrF)

177 The way to end this is to put leakers in jail. Shit gets real folks. Favreau and Rhodes, let us pray! And revisit Hillary. Put Huma and Cheryl in jail. Else MSM will keep selling the lie

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:27 AM (SIY7D)

178 All the while, Trump keeps Trumpin' Only things left are The Robots Did It! or Elon Musk Brought Back Mars Aliens, That Did IT I say we blame Brussels.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2017 11:28 AM (0mz2+)

179 Anyone who questions the integrity of our intellignce community is a traitor
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I seem to recall that from 2004-2008 it was considered conventional wisdom in the FSM that the intelligence community intentionally made up the notion that Saddam Husein had an active WMD program.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 11:28 AM (eSx+E)

180 and the FBI "relied on" this report - WHY?

it's not as if they don't have their own investigators!

Posted by: WaldoTJ (in Texas) at March 31, 2017 11:28 AM (M1MpJ)

181 Fake News? Like Romney not allowing women to have tampons if elected?

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 31, 2017 11:28 AM (FZYNt)

182 "Jill Stein: Send me some money and I'll come up with some theories." Jill Stein was the Bev Harris of the 2016 election. "Bev Harris is just ten dollars away from changing the results in Ohio from Bush to Kerry. Donate now."

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 31, 2017 11:28 AM (OD2ni)

183 I will say regarding electronic voting, I simply don't trust it, and I also don't trust "Big Tech" that is almost always involved in these sorts of projects like Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, etc. You know damn well if that could rig an election, they would. Paper ballots at least take manpower, not someone with a few keystrokes and the right authorization.

Posted by: Maritime at March 31, 2017 11:29 AM (A17+m)

184 ecause the Moaists beat out the Leninists for control of the press?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 31, 2017 04:24 PM (4WhSY)


those billions invested into Hollywood and DC establishment did not go for nothing, I gather

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2017 11:29 AM (5n/ou)

185 I seem to recall that from 2004-2008 it was considered conventional wisdom in the FSM that the intelligence community intentionally made up the notion that Saddam Husein had an active WMD program. Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 04:28 PM (eSx+E) ----------- Yeah, how many agencies globally thought he had WMD's? I bet more than 17.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 11:29 AM (xeeHA)

186 It's not unusual for private firms to be brought in for Incident Response even if it's a public entity that is hacked. The experts are found in the private sector. Mandiant (which is the IR branch of FireEye) is the big kahuna for IR. They were called in for the Sony hack, Anthem hack, Apple hack a few years back. They are the goto guys. Crowdstrike has been nipping on it's heels the last few years though, they're kind of the hot new startup in the IR/Cyber-Security space.

Posted by: other joe_mama at March 31, 2017 11:30 AM (9DBoE)

187 " Wasn't that conversation recorded at NBC Studios, in California? You know, that same state that recently filed 5 felony charges against the group that made the Planned Parenthood tape for recording them?" Yep. It also broke be nice to your guests protocol. Like leaking hidden tapes from the Green Room

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:30 AM (SIY7D)

188 Is that Rience Penis aid who just quit the White House the first of the never Trump assholes to get purged after an internal investigation?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 11:30 AM (6Ll1u)

189 If I have the timeline right the Democrats and Hillary started this Russia crap before the election when they thought they would be in the White house and Lynchem would be the AG to hit or coverup the investigation.

Posted by: Skip at March 31, 2017 11:30 AM (GPaiX)

190 Oh. Never mind.

Posted by: Former FBI Super Sleuth Emily Litella at March 31, 2017 11:30 AM (97XyN)

191 Fake News? Like a YouTube video causing the uprising in Benghazi against the US embassy?

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 31, 2017 11:31 AM (FZYNt)

192 Remember how long it took them to declare GA a Trump win? Wasn't it on hold for hours?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 31, 2017 11:31 AM (oVJmc)

193

 

it's not as if they don't have their own investigators!

Posted by: WaldoTJ (in Texas) at March 31, 2017 04:28 PM (M1MpJ)

 

 

They were exhausted after spending 18 months  of  pretending to investigate  Hillary

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 31, 2017 11:31 AM (lKyWE)

194 I would also add that, but for the intervention of a certain Mexican billionaire, the NY Times would be defunct right now.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2017 11:31 AM (w7KSn)

195 To kinda explain how a proxy server works to anyone over 29 years of age -- a very, very small subset of those here... You pick up the phone and dial someone in Russia. They pick up the phone. You tell them what number to dial. They pick up a phone and dial that number. Then they place the phones next to each other. Bingo. Phone call originated in Russia.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum [i] at March 31, 2017 11:32 AM (ZFUt7)

196 That being said, I doubt there was widespread tampering with those machines because the vast majority of ways you could hack them would leave a trail in log files that would get you caught. Probably.

As I once explained to an auditor who asked what the logs said.

"Whatever I tell them to."

If a hacker is truly good at what they do, you'll never know they're there.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 31, 2017 11:32 AM (4WhSY)

197 The Russia crap started during the election, when DJT said that we can work with Russia and that Hillary failed with her f'ing reset, then ignited a few medium sized wars

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2017 11:32 AM (5n/ou)

198 Oh... the other question that should be asked is what exactly did the Russians hack and how did it help Russia? I never have seen or heard what was hacked other than just the "election".

Posted by: USNtakim at March 31, 2017 11:32 AM (hMqvx)

199 I look forward to Adam Schiff's speech about the Russians taking the Purity of Our Essence through our precious bodily fliuids. Posted by: V the K Wait just a minute there.

Posted by: Coca Cola at March 31, 2017 11:32 AM (k7fBu)

200 OT: They are now estimating 7 months to repair the I 85 bridge in Atlanta. Thank God I work way up in Alpharetta. Atl is going to be a giant fustercluck for most of the rest of this year.

Posted by: Flyboy [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2017 11:33 AM (4uPO9)

201 How did the FBI ever fall so far? Or were they always FUBAR and nobody noticed or cared? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2017 11:33 AM (op9Rd)

202 The dark net is just laughing their collective asses off at this stupid nonsense. The minute Crowdstrike came out and claimed Russian hacking, everyone in our circles' bullshit meters hit full tilt. The truth of the matter is that our own Deep State is so fucking corrupt and seditious that they are running false flag ops to trip up *actual* law enforcement and plant the seeds of discontent against political enemies. Obama didn't just weaponize the IRS. He fully weaponized the FBI, NSA, and CIA to take on political adversaries.

Posted by: ThomasR at March 31, 2017 11:33 AM (WKkqe)

203 I seem to recall that from 2004-2008 it was considered conventional wisdom in the FSM that the intelligence community intentionally made up the notion that Saddam Husein had an active WMD program. Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 04:28 PM (eSx+E) ----------- Yeah, how many agencies globally thought he had WMD's? I bet more than 17. Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 04:29 PM (xeeHA) I've been saying for years that the notion that the various intelligence agencies lied about it is actually a more comforting notion that then alternative which is that nearly every intelligence agency in the world got wrong what was then that single most important intelligence question in the world. Obligatory yes yes they were moved out of country and Saddam sure acted like he had them. But still. I don't understand letting everyone off the hook like that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 11:33 AM (mf5HN)

204 I can't even listen to the news as the phrase "Possible Russian connections" is like fingernails on a chalk board at this point. It's fucking scary to see these talking heads regurgitate this very simplistic propaganda. It's the childlike simplicity of the talking points that seems like straight out of a Twilight Zone episode.

Posted by: Max Power at March 31, 2017 11:34 AM (q177U)

205 "Mandiant (which is the IR branch of FireEye) is the big kahuna for IR. They were called in for the Sony hack, Anthem hack, Apple hack a few years back. " But what am I missing. If I wanted to know who hacked me and how, I wouldn't have paid for a report like the one that got issued on the DNC hack. It had only a sprinkling of thin circumstantial facts, and then a leap to a conclusion. Nothing hard. Nothing actionable.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:34 AM (SIY7D)

206 I'm so old I remember when OPM got 'hacked' by their own contractors. The Chinese got all of our security clearance forms. But 'Russians'...

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:34 AM (fLMbU)

207 Anyone see the Tucker interview with the douche bag "professor" that Carlson totally annihilated after he said his writing and comprehension of the English language was grade school at best?

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 31, 2017 11:34 AM (FZYNt)

208 Remember how long it took them to declare GA a Trump win? Wasn't it on hold for hours? Posted by: Mr. Peebles I just assumed Jane D(uh) couldn't make up her mind. Seriously, I thought that did take a hell of a long time.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum [i] at March 31, 2017 11:34 AM (ZFUt7)

209 OT: They are now estimating 7 months to repair the I 85 bridge in Atlanta. Thank God I work way up in Alpharetta. Atl is going to be a giant fustercluck for most of the rest of this year.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 31, 2017 04:33 PM (4uPO9)



Our first home was near that area.  Looks like Marta will be getting new riders. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:34 AM (PY9jH)

210 7 months? how is that even possible. Working 24/7? Are there only 10 guys in the repair crew?

Posted by: USNtakim at March 31, 2017 11:35 AM (hMqvx)

211 OT: They are now estimating 7 months to repair the I 85 bridge in Atlanta. Thank God I work way up in Alpharetta. Atl is going to be a giant fustercluck for most of the rest of this year. Posted by: Flyboy at March 31, 2017 04:33 PM (4uPO9) ................... INFRASTRUCTURE BILL!!!

Posted by: RuPaul Ryan at March 31, 2017 11:35 AM (HgMAr)

212 After the 2000 election and the chad debacle in FL a study was commissioned to examine all the different methods of voting and which one would be the easiest and most reliable and at the same time provide a paper trail.


After months of study they came back and said simple paper ballots like everyone used to use years ago was by far the best at meeting those criteria.


Needless to say that study was filed in the deepest vault next to the Lost  Ark and quickly forgotten.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 11:35 AM (mpXpK)

213 Evelyn Farkas is walking back her MSNBC statement, its all thats what I read in the newspapers.

Posted by: Skip at March 31, 2017 11:35 AM (GPaiX)

214 As I once explained to an auditor who asked what the logs said. "Whatever I tell them to." If a hacker is truly good at what they do, you'll never know they're there. Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 31, 2017 04:32 PM (4WhSY) ---------------- This is often the case, yes. But it would take a lot of hackers to make a statistically significant modification to voting machines and the odds are strongly against mobilizing something like that without leaving a lot of cookie crumbs.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 11:35 AM (xeeHA)

215 All these fuckin left wingers do is spew talking points. And of course the Constitution does not protect illegal aliens

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2017 11:35 AM (op9Rd)

216 OT: They are now estimating 7 months to repair the I 85 bridge in Atlanta. Thank God I work way up in Alpharetta. Atl is going to be a giant fustercluck for most of the rest of this year. Posted by: Flyboy at March 31, 2017 04:33 PM (4uPO9) No problem. Flying cars are going to hit the market next month.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 31, 2017 11:35 AM (zc3Db)

217 CHinese are not the only ones getting clearances left and right, hey wait a second, whatever happened to those two bros they busted who did tech stuff in DC

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2017 11:36 AM (5n/ou)

218 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at March 31, 2017 11:36 AM (DpOmP)

219 Evelyn Farkas is walking back her MSNBC statement, its all thats what I read in the newspapers. Posted by: Skip at March 31, 2017 04:35 PM (GPaiX) She can walk it back all she wants....We all understand English

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2017 11:36 AM (op9Rd)

220 They are now estimating 7 months to repair the I 85 bridge in Atlanta.
***
Remember when the US could build a battleship in a month and a bridge in a day or two? Like in the 40s?

Pepperidge Farm. remembers.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 11:36 AM (eSx+E)

221 Evelyn Farkas is walking back her MSNBC statement, its all thats what I read in the newspapers.

Posted by: Skip at March 31, 2017 04:35 PM (GPaiX)



She sure did run her mouth for someone who now wants to walk back what she said on MSLSD.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:36 AM (PY9jH)

222 Evelyn Farkas is walking back her MSNBC statement, its all thats what I read in the newspapers. Posted by: Skip at March 31, 2017 04:35 PM (GPaiX) Farkas? They didn't even kiss us.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 31, 2017 11:36 AM (zc3Db)

223 105 There's nothing to go on but an IP address. And that means absolutely nothing. In fact, if the phishers used a Russian proxy to carry out their phishing attempts, that leads me to think that whoever was involved was not Russian. Because it would be kind of silly to use a proxy that still points to you, no? Posted by: Harry Paratestes Absolutely. I don't go looking for trouble -- because coward -- but I'm sure I could find a proxy server in any of the former soviet republics, or Russia itself within five minutes. And the guy in Israel who was phoning in the bomb threats to Jewish entities here in the USA? Genius stuff. It took them a month just to track the country it was coming from. If he had proxied up they might never have found him. He was probably confident being behind about six levels of deception and didn't think a seventh was necessary. Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 31, 2017 04:13 PM (ZFUt7) Not entirely true. There are other smoking guns as well beyond potentially proxied IP addresses. You can look at the malware that was used, what keyboard type and what language it was compiled in. You can look at the victim's logs and determine when they were taking place. Oftentimes if it's an APT (Advanced Persistent Threat) type actor such as a nation-state, you're going to see the hacking take place during normal business hours for that country. So for instance if the hacks are taking place 9AM-5PM, Beijing time, that's another data point on who the attacker is. Now, all that being said, you add up all those various clues/data points and you can get a very strong inference on who the perpetrator is. But, and this is the but, if you've followed along this far, you'll notice that all of the above can be spoofed/faked as well. Incidence Response is very very difficult to do. Good hackers know how to clean up after themselves or frame others.

Posted by: other joe_mama at March 31, 2017 11:36 AM (9DBoE)

224 Obligatory yes yes they were moved out of country and Saddam sure acted like he had them. But still. I don't understand letting everyone off the hook like that. Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 04:33 PM (mf5HN) ------------- True, being wrong at that magnitude should have scared the shit out of everybody. Instead, Bush Lied, People Died or whatever.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 11:37 AM (xeeHA)

225 Crowdstrike is walking back it's claims in different report about a different matter. However, the point is taken that the FBI should never take a report from someone with a self interest in the outcome. That's why whenever push comes to shove they will say there is no evidence. There never was any evidence gathering by the FBI in the first place. I also find it interesting that nobody had asked Comey who directed him to investigate Trump's connection with Russia, and based on what information.

Posted by: MAGA at March 31, 2017 11:37 AM (A4HOq)

226 Our first home was near that area. Looks like Marta will be getting new riders. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 04:34 PM (PY9jH) ====== I'm hearing ridership is up 25% and sales are up 80%, so plenty of people buying Breeze cards for the long term.

Posted by: Flyboy [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2017 11:37 AM (4uPO9)

227 181 Fake News? Like Romney not allowing women to have tampons if elected? Posted by: Rick in SK at March 31, 2017 04:28 PM (FZYNt) --------------- Melania has nice tits. Okay, that's not fake news. I just wanted to say it.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 11:37 AM (Fmupd)

228 Somebody needs to tell Sheila Jackson Lee that we were hacked by Martians. Those hearings would kick ass.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:37 AM (fLMbU)

229 "...whatever happened to those two bros they busted who did tech stuff in DC?" They are in the wind.

Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2017 11:37 AM (w7KSn)

230 This is bush league psych out stuff! Laughable, man! HAA HAA!

Posted by: Jesus Quintana at March 31, 2017 11:37 AM (0mRoj)

231 201 How did the FBI ever fall so far? Or were they always FUBAR and nobody noticed or cared?

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2017 04:33 PM (op9Rd)


They have never been worth a shit.  The cops I used to run around with in Oakland hated them.  They said they were worthless and would always come in after the local cops had done months of legwork and get in on the bust and take credit for it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 11:37 AM (mpXpK)

232 Evelyn Farkas is walking back her MSNBC statement, its all thats what I read in the newspapers.
***
Cat's out of the bottle - one of Obama's minions has admitted it...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (eSx+E)

233 The Soros wing of the Democrat party does nothing if not choose its psy op terms carefully. To "hack" implies a solution, or effective action, as in "life hack" It also means, narrowly, to intrude on information in a cyber security sense. So by saying Russia "hacked" the election can be "proved" narrowly true if there was Russian intelligence gathering on a wide-open source, i.e. Shrillary's grossly unsecured server. But it is then spun as though they "hacked" i.e. actually effected a change in the election. That, aside from point that whatever Russia learned, it has nothing to do with Trump facilitating it. I'm just fed up with "the issue" being "whether Russia hacked" anything, much less whether Russia "tried to interfere." Its an ambiguity wrapped in an irrelevancy.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (QtQaN)

234 Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 04:33 PM (mf5HN) Since we physically put our hands on tons of VX gas and tagged them and then they came up missing, I don't know how one could say that there were no WMDs.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (9KUj4)

235 It my first wall today. My body is screaming No! to any physical excercise. It only wants to melt on the couch and bed. I can barely speak. I think my middle/late 30's aged body, who is training from noonish to 8pm throughout the day is going to force me to take the day off. I don't want to injure myself because of muscle and body fatigue. I pray this is not the norm and is only 6 weeks of 6 day a week training catching up to me. I pray I have not hit the wall for my age. Fuck it I'll try and do something high rep and light weight. Just needed to talk it out and now I know I'm sounding like a pussy.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (lCTsV)

236 I will say regarding electronic voting, I simply don't trust it, and I also don't trust "Big Tech" that is almost always involved in these sorts of projects like Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, etc. You know damn well if that could rig an election, they would. Paper ballots at least take manpower, not someone with a few keystrokes and the right authorization. Posted by: Maritime at March 31, 2017 04:29 PM (A17+m) About that... As many as 7.5 million voter records involved in Georgia data breach Experts push paper ballot trail after alleged breach of Georgia data http://www.ajc.com/ and OT: They are now estimating 7 months to repair the I 85 bridge in Atlanta. Thank God I work way up in Alpharetta. Atl is going to be a giant fustercluck for most of the rest of this year. Posted by: Flyboy at March 31, 2017 04:33 PM (4uPO9) The federal government will chip in $10 million for temporary repairs, U.S. Rep. John Lewis told Channel 2 Action News. The state and federal governments will split the cost of a permanent fix.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (0mz2+)

237 I look forward to Adam Schiff's speech about the Russians taking the Purity of Our Essence through our precious bodily fliuids. Posted by: V the K Wait just a minute there. Posted by: Coca Cola at March 31, 2017 04:32 PM (k7fBu) Are you one of them preverts?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (493sH)

238 Our first home was near that area. Looks like Marta will be getting new riders. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 04:34 PM (PY9jH) So ... we have a motive.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (zc3Db)

239 Melania has nice tits. Okay, that's not fake news. I just wanted to say it.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 04:37 PM (Fmupd)



Kathleen Parker wrote a ranting piece trashing Melania.  *seethes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (PY9jH)

240 Posted by: other joe_mama Does Crowdstrike have a good reputation in the IT community?

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at March 31, 2017 11:38 AM (k7fBu)

241 I can't avoid the conclusion that the FBI willingly engaged in deception for political reasons here. When the DNC refused to provide access to their servers, the FBI could have said, "then we're unable to investigate claims of Russian involvement." The end. Instead, they went forward with information from the intelligence equivalent of the National Enquirer, while pretending they had actual evidence.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 31, 2017 11:39 AM (97XyN)

242 Up until about 5 years ago, "hacking" was defined as "doing illegal and surreptitious meddling with a computer." But thena more recent definition has started to become commonplace among the younger crowd: "hacking" to mean a sort of shorthand quick-fix shortcut improvement or alteration of something -- even things that have nothing to do with computers or electronics. Best-known examples are "Life hacks" -- what used to be called "household hints" -- and "job hacks", as well as a wide variety of other terms using "hack" in relation to any kind of activity. "Diet hacks," "I totally hacked a shortcut to school," etc. etc. This is how language evolves - fine. But whe the left says that Russia "hacked" the election, they are INTENTIONALLY confusing the two terms. They want the average person to think that Russia literally hacked the voting machines and produced false vote totals. But when challenged on this obviously false claim, they'd say, "Oh, no, we mean 'hacked' merely in the sense of 'influenced.'" Uh huh. These disingenuous wordgame is at the root of this entire pseudo-scandal. Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2017 04:06 PM (DQ4Fv) Actually, the etymology of the term (since before the Internet Era) is somewhat the opposite. "Hacking" Before Internet referred exactly to whipping up some makeshift solution to a problem, and by analogy to whipping up some code, usually poorly documented, to fix a programming problem. After the Web exploded, somewhere around 1990, the term "hacking" became associated with illicit access to computer systems. Among programmers, this was originally referred to as "cracking" rather than "hacking." Hacking has always had the connotation of chewing-gum-and-baleing-wire quick-and-dirty fixes to problems--hence the recent "life hacks" and that ilk--and has with the advent the Internet-connected world, *also* gained the connotation of illegal, illicit, and/or unauthorized access to on-line systems. But you are correct that the Dems are willfully conflating the two connotations of the word "hacking" in order to spin the issue.

Posted by: filbert at March 31, 2017 11:39 AM (nUFhj)

243 There wasn't fire involved in the Atlanta bridge collapse was there? Because I've been told fire can't melt steel.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 11:39 AM (6Ll1u)

244 If Saddam Hussein could move all of his WMD's out of country to G-d knows where without ANY of the world's intelligence agencies picking up on it... well, that's just a terrifying thought.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 11:40 AM (xeeHA)

245 239 That woman has issues with any attractive female it seems.

Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2017 11:40 AM (r/0kC)

246 Since we physically put our hands on tons of VX gas and tagged them and then they came up missing, I don't know how one could say that there were no WMDs. Posted by: Jack Sock at March 31, 2017 04:38 PM (9KUj4) Oh that drives me crazy. VX is nasty, nasty, nasty stuff but because it wasn't nuclear, well, that doesn't count! Uh huh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 11:40 AM (mf5HN)

247 This is often the case, yes. But it would take a lot of hackers to make a statistically significant modification to voting machines and the odds are strongly against mobilizing something like that without leaving a lot of cookie crumbs.

Which is an excellent point.  Just not enough skilled hackers to do a job of that scale within the timeframe needed.

Which explains the detection of Obama admin hack attempts against the various state systems.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 31, 2017 11:41 AM (4WhSY)

248 I thought we had intelligence showing Saddam moved WMD's to Syria. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:41 AM (PY9jH)

249 Ralph Peters: "Anyone who questions the integrity of our intellignce community is a traitor" I used to listen to that guy, then somewhere around Trump's election and inauguration, he started sounding a bit off. I don't remember the specifics, but it was something that signaled to me "IC stooge". So, yeah, anything he covers, if I catch him at all, I view askance. And, zombie, you may be right about the Left again taking language as hostage. However, with the MFM dunderheads, their ignorance may still supersede their partisanship. I think many of them are just plain stupid and, when challenged, revert to any escape route they can navigate.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 31, 2017 11:41 AM (1CroS)

250 About Saddam and WMD. He had them in the past, and said he still had them. So then you get Confirmation Bias. Who's going to say he doesn't have them, to be put in the impossible position of proving a negative, only to likely proven wrong?

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:41 AM (SIY7D)

251 188 Is that Rience Penis aid who just quit the White House the first of the never Trump assholes to get purged after an internal investigation?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 04:30 PM (6Ll1u)


That was MFM misinformation in the headlines.  If you read down into the articles you found that she left the WH to take a different post in another part of the Trump team.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 11:41 AM (mpXpK)

252 OT: They are now estimating 7 months to repair the I 85 bridge in Atlanta. Where are the 'fire can't melt steel!!!!' people?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 31, 2017 11:41 AM (oVJmc)

253 There wasn't fire involved in the Atlanta bridge collapse was there? Because I've been told fire can't melt steel. I've been blasting that all over Fb all day.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at March 31, 2017 11:41 AM (4Utw1)

254 Does Crowdstrike have a good reputation in the IT community? === Mandiant are the experts. But experts got to pay the bills you know?

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:42 AM (fLMbU)

255 And WebSense has decided I can't see this thread anymore.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 31, 2017 11:42 AM (4WhSY)

256

 

Anyone see the Tucker interview with the douche bag "professor" that Carlson totally annihilated after he said his writing and comprehension of the English language was grade school at best?

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 31, 2017 04:34 PM (FZYNt)

 

 

The  look  on  the   guys face when Carlson called his scholarly work   complete crap and   it  reads  like a highschool student   wrote  it  was priceless

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 31, 2017 11:42 AM (lKyWE)

257 There wasn't fire involved in the Atlanta bridge collapse was there? Because I've been told fire can't melt steel. Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 04:39 PM (6Ll1u) ======÷ Yes there was, and apparently fire does a number on concrete and steel. Of course, anyone who has ever watched steel being made knows that.

Posted by: Flyboy [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2017 11:43 AM (4uPO9)

258 Does Crowdstrike have a good reputation in the IT community? ________________________________________________ Mediocre before. Complete garbage now.

Posted by: ThomasR at March 31, 2017 11:44 AM (WKkqe)

259 Kathleen Parker wrote a ranting piece trashing Melania. *seethes* Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 04:38 PM (PY9jH) Ranting about what? That she appears to be attempting to balance the needs of Barron against being with her husband? You know, making choices like adults do? As far as the Syria thing, I'm torn on that because that's what I've always believed but am I now doing the justification for failure bit myself. I will say that the confirmation bias was well earned. Saddam did his level best to keep up the illusion so there was at least reason to believe the fire had some embers.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 11:44 AM (mf5HN)

260 240 Posted by: other joe_mama Does Crowdstrike have a good reputation in the IT community? Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at March 31, 2017 04:38 PM (k7fBu) As was mentioned earlier Mandiant/FireEye is/was the goto for Incident Response. Kevin Mandia is no joke. He's been around forever, got his start in the Air Force, knows his stuff and still has lots of smart guys working for him. Crowdstrike is the hot startup that is nipping at the heels. They were fast building a name for themselves, and had a decent enough reputation. This however, is likely a black eye for them. If I had to give a yes/no, I would say yes, they're respected, but somewhat unproven given how young the company is. But to be fair to them, there are many players in the Cybersecurity startup space (what I'm trying to say is that being a startup isnt necessarily a knock against you)

Posted by: other joe_mama at March 31, 2017 11:44 AM (9DBoE)

261 I now think of Donald Trump as "Mr Mom President" because he's like Michael Keaton when Mr Mom said to Martin Mull, "Yeah, 220, 221, whatever it takes." President Trump is like "Yeah, repeal, replace, whatever it takes."

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 31, 2017 11:44 AM (KxmPO)

262 204 I can't even listen to the news as the phrase "Possible Russian connections" is like fingernails on a chalk board at this point. It's fucking scary to see these talking heads regurgitate this very simplistic propaganda. It's the childlike simplicity of the talking points that seems like straight out of a Twilight Zone episode. Posted by: Max Power at March 31, 2017 04:34 PM (q177U) --------------- Get used to it. The dems/left are going to be vomiting this hot mess as long as Trump is prez.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 11:44 AM (Fmupd)

263 Anyone see the Tucker interview with the douche bag "professor" that Carlson totally annihilated after he said his writing and comprehension of the English language was grade school at best? Posted by: Rick in SK at March 31, 2017 04:34 PM (FZYNt) I never miss his show. I can't stop laughing. That part was especially funny. These guests come on trying to project intelligence, and many have gone to filibustering, and shouting over Tucker all of the Talking Points over and over. They look like fools and Tucker gives them the Blue Carpet to do so. It's great. Color of a Fool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk7esxltQag

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2017 11:44 AM (0mz2+)

264 Since we physically put our hands on tons of VX gas and tagged them and then they came up missing, I don't know how one could say that there were no WMDs. Posted by: Jack Sock at March 31, 2017 04:38 PM (9KUj4) The really funny part is that Barky's junta charged the Times Square bomber with "trying to set off a WMD" ... which consisted of a few tanks of gas and propane.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 31, 2017 11:45 AM (zc3Db)

265 I thought we had intelligence showing Saddam moved WMD's to Syria. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 04:41 PM (PY9jH) --------- I remember news about convoys of Russian vehicles rushing out of the country in the final days before the war that seemed to indicate a lot of bad stuff was getting hauled out of the country. I think we'll never know because the people that know don't want US to know.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at March 31, 2017 11:45 AM (xeeHA)

266 Melania has nice tits. Okay, that's not fake news. I just wanted to say it. Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 04:37 PM (Fmupd) ................ They may be nice fake tits.

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 11:45 AM (HgMAr)

267 Just as an aside to the sidebar, we had a District advisory team medic who was awarded a silver star. He and a huge German Shepard named Slick circled around behind a VC bunker that had a bunch of people pinned down. Bac sy (what we called medics) sicked Slick on the VC. Slick then ran into the bunker and the medic shot the bad guys as they exited. We figured Slick should have gotten the award.

Posted by: Javems at March 31, 2017 11:45 AM (yOqwj)

268 Crowdstrike?  "revised and retracted statements"  I know they had to fess up about some fibbery today (but who wouldn't trust this guy - https://www.crowdstrike.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/dmitri.jpg)


Is it possible they were caught up in a certain short bombers forgery fantasia? 
That hoax was hilarious to those who follow the careers of classylifesuperspies.

Posted by: SarahW at March 31, 2017 11:45 AM (Sp1NT)

269 I am a lineman for the Russians, and I listen to your calls...

Posted by: Glen Campbell at March 31, 2017 11:45 AM (ismre)

270 Hey Ace - Do you realize the report Crowdstrike pulled back was not the one on the DNC hack? They pulled back a report of Russia hacking Ukranian military technology. Still.. doesn't do much for their reputation - especially considering the FBI never did their own analysis.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 31, 2017 11:46 AM (so+oy)

271 But to be fair to them, there are many players in the Cybersecurity startup space (what I'm trying to say is that being a startup isnt necessarily a knock against you) Posted by: other joe_mama at March 31, 2017 04:44 PM (9DBoE) Wouldn't saying its a startup in the cyber security world mean so yeah we got into a fight over money at the old company so we started up six separate ones because we hate each other?

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 11:46 AM (mf5HN)

272 "OT: They are now estimating 7 months to repair the I 85 bridge in
Atlanta. Thank God I work way up in Alpharetta. Atl is going to be a
giant fustercluck for most of the rest of this year.
Posted by: Flyboy"

I thought I was safe but it is screwing up traffic all over the north side with traffic on the already packed bypass increasing 50%.  This is like Snowmagedon except instead of a day it will last until the end of the year. I expect economic  collapse in 30 days or less, riots, looting
. Never thought it would end this way, at least not from a bridge collapsing.

Now might be a good time to sell the house and move to Idaho


Posted by: Ripley at March 31, 2017 11:46 AM (1BQGO)

273 256 Anyone see the Tucker interview with the douche bag "professor" that Carlson totally annihilated after he said his writing and comprehension of the English language was grade school at best? Posted by: Rick in SK at March 31, 2017 04:34 PM (FZYNt) The look on the guys face when Carlson called his scholarly work complete crap and it reads like a highschool student wrote it was priceless Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 31, 2017 04:42 PM (lKyWE) ==== Loved it at the very end when he's air-quoted ' yeah thanks for joining us, "professor" ' Nuclear snark.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:46 AM (fLMbU)

274 "Does Crowdstrike have a good reputation in the IT community? " If you've seen the actual DNC consultant report it strikes me as really thin, nothing you could use as evidence in court, and not worth paying for. Unless you had another motive for the report

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:47 AM (SIY7D)

275 They may be nice fake tits. Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 04:45 PM (HgMAr) ===== I volunteer to take one for the team and personally verify real/fake status as long as someone here could hook it up.

Posted by: Flyboy [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2017 11:47 AM (4uPO9)

276 I thought we had intelligence showing Saddam moved WMD's to Syria. Posted by: Jane D'oh No way. The gas that was used in Syria did not originate from Iraq. Despite whatever indisputable damning evidence which indicated it came from Iraq. 'Shut up', our intelligence agencies will explain. The arrogance of the intelligence 'community' is what infuriates me. There should be about a thousand whistle blowers banging on the White House doors by now.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum [i] at March 31, 2017 11:47 AM (ZFUt7)

277 Kathleen Parker wrote a ranting piece trashing Melania. Kathleen should get the boot. The Max Boot.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 31, 2017 11:47 AM (IqV8l)

278 Regarding the bridge collapse in Atlanta, same thing happened in Birmingham several years ago. They fixed it in one month.

Posted by: MAGA at March 31, 2017 11:48 AM (A4HOq)

279 Kathleen Parker wrote a ranting piece trashing Melania. *seethes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 04:38 PM (PY9jH)



Ranting about what? That she appears to be attempting to balance the needs of Barron against being with her husband? You know, making choices like adults do?

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 04:44 PM (mf5HN)



Where to begin.  Let's see:  Melania's parents were once Communists.  Melania became a model and "managed" to meet Donald and become his next wife.  She is "like a queen living in a black tower" and she sniffs at the idea of living in the WH because it's not good enough for her.  That's just a few bits of the crap that jealous Kathy wrote about her.



Speaking of "nasty women," Kathleen Parker fits the bill.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:50 AM (PY9jH)

280 Regarding the bridge collapse in Atlanta, same thing happened in Birmingham several years ago. They fixed it in one month. Posted by: MAGA at March 31, 2017 04:48 PM (A4HOq) ===== One month does not present sufficient opportunity for graft.

Posted by: Flyboy [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2017 11:50 AM (4uPO9)

281 They already had a road rage incident where a driver stepped out and shot another on driver. The fun has already begun in Atlanta. My commute on the northside very light, but I don't expect that to continue. Couple school systems were out. I don't think anybody realizes how bad it really is. The location prevents any bypass. It is basically the location where 400 75 and 85 come togather. There is no way to travel through the city going North and South except on two lane city streets. And I 20 sucks. Economically? It could kill downtown Atlanta. Looks like the Braves got out just in time

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:50 AM (fLMbU)

282 And a couple of centrifuges were found buried also. Saddam had every intention of restarting his nuke program. He of course would have accomplished it with the help of NK and Pakistan. Unless of course we went in and destroyed it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 31, 2017 11:51 AM (9KUj4)

283 Who goes to downtown Atlanta anyway?  All the major businesses have moved out to the bypass in the typical "city doughnut" progression.  I had to go to downtown Atlanta for two weeks a few years ago for work because INPO was still located downtown.  It was shit.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 11:51 AM (mpXpK)

284 In nice tits news, Carl's Jr has announced that they are ending the ad campaign featuring scantily clad large breasted spokes models. A little part of my black heart died with this news.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 11:51 AM (6Ll1u)

285 They are throwing rumor at gp about nunes having info bout some super high level, well known ic hack that unmasked citizens....jail the fuckers, this will never stop until someone is sharin a cell with ...well you know

Posted by: E.T. at March 31, 2017 11:52 AM (P1GJy)

286 It only took one election loss to turn Democrats from fellow travelers to full-on John Birchers. Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2017 03:57 PM (O7MnT) It certainly is stunning, especially since I remember the donks being such a bunch of treasonous $h!ts in regards to the Soviet Union. I think the Democrats just get the vapors about Russia only because the Russian government has abandoned communism.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 31, 2017 11:52 AM (5Yee7)

287 Speaking of "nasty women," Kathleen Parker fits the bill. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 04:50 PM (PY9jH) Just more catty, mean girl bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 31, 2017 11:52 AM (0mRoj)

288 FFS, Melania is lovely lady and a wonderful mom. If she has a fault, she's probably a bit doting and over-protective of Barron. Not wanting to move a grammar school kid in the middle of the school year is perfectly normal

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2017 11:52 AM (SIY7D)

289 Also regarding the bridge . I believe the one that was in Birmingham got fixed. They are saying that there is no way to fix the Atlanta bridge, it must be completely replaced. It is almost new only 10 years old. They will have to dig out everything that they just put in and remove it all before they can put in new stuff

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:52 AM (fLMbU)

290 Oh that drives me crazy. VX is nasty, nasty, nasty stuff but because it wasn't nuclear, well, that doesn't count! Uh huh. Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Sugartits at March 31, 2017 04:40 PM ( ------------------ I think I'd rather be quickly fried by a nuclear fireball than the ugly death of VX. You're right. That's some nasty deadly stuff.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 11:52 AM (Fmupd)

291 i have yet to have anyone give me a good reason why Russia would want to hack the DNC, let alone stop Shrillery from getting in the White House... Nobody likes Hillary, nobody wants a spiteful power hungry harpy in power. Even if technically you see eye to eye on some issues, she's a bad thing. That's just a few bits of the crap that jealous Kathy wrote about her. Jealous women can be really, really nasty. A guy will beat you or kill you, but a woman will try to kill your soul.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 11:52 AM (39g3+)

292 Melania has nice tits. Okay, that's not fake news. I just wanted to say it. Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 04:37 PM (Fmupd) ................ They may be nice fake tits. Posted by: wth Russian cosmetic surgery.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at March 31, 2017 11:53 AM (k7fBu)

293 Maybe the pest control people told Melania it would be best to wait a while before occupying Big Moochs' old room.

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 11:53 AM (HgMAr)

294 "Who goes to downtown Atlanta anyway? All the major businesses have moved out to the bypass in the typical "city doughnut" progression. I had to go to downtown Atlanta for two weeks a few years ago for work because INPO was still located downtown. It was shit."

The panhandler have to return there at night after working the suburbs.


Posted by: Ripley at March 31, 2017 11:53 AM (1BQGO)

295

 

 There wasn't fire involved in the Atlanta bridge collapse was there? Because I've been told fire can't melt steel.



 

They said it was pvc pipes   under the bridge that caught fire,what the hell was runing trough those pipes? the only time i've a fire like that on the highway is when a fuel tanker explodes

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 31, 2017 11:53 AM (lKyWE)

296 Do what they did in Birmingham, $1million for each day ahead of schedule. I believe the contractor walked off with a $17 million bonus.

Posted by: MAGA at March 31, 2017 11:53 AM (A4HOq)

297 Russian cosmetic surgery. Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at March 31, 2017 04:53 PM (k7fBu) ........... The Russians are hacking our tits!

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 11:54 AM (HgMAr)

298 Who goes to downtown Atlanta anyway? All the major businesses have moved out to the bypass in the typical "city doughnut" progression. I had to go to downtown Atlanta for two weeks a few years ago for work because INPO was still located downtown. It was shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 04:51 PM (mpXpK)



Guess what's happening June 10-14 downtown?



Rotary International Convention.  We'll be there.  So will hundreds of people from around the world.  Was going to be Atlanta's time to shine.



Sad.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:54 AM (PY9jH)

299 Maybe the pest control people told Melania it would be best to wait a while before occupying Big Moochs' old room. Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 04:53 PM (HgMAr) Aunt Esther Obama: Watch it, sucka!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:54 AM (493sH)

300 In nice tits news, Carl's Jr has announced that they are ending the ad campaign featuring scantily clad large breasted spokes models I'm guessing that like a lot of ad campaigns, while people liked the ads, it wasn't translating into actual sales of burgers. At least, not enough to justify the cost of the ads. I am convinced that most advertisements are not promoting the product at all, but instead are advertising for the ad agency. We got awards! People are talking about us!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 11:55 AM (39g3+)

301 They said it was pvc pipes under the bridge that caught fire,what the hell was runing trough those pipes? the only time i've a fire like that on the highway is when a fuel tanker explodes Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 31, 2017 04:53 PM (lKyWE) ==== The PVC was being stored there, no idea for what or why.

Posted by: Flyboy [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2017 11:55 AM (4uPO9)

302 Fox Business - California wants to ban fake news. So they're going to kick all of the MFM out of the state?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:55 AM (493sH)

303 It. Is. All. Fake. News.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 31, 2017 11:55 AM (cOHS7)

304 People just gonna hafta use their Little Feat to get 'round.

Posted by: Meremortal ,,. at March 31, 2017 11:55 AM (3myMJ)

305 We're bigger than Big Brother.....

Posted by: National Geospatial Intelligence Agency at March 31, 2017 11:55 AM (hbjWJ)

306 The Birmingham bridge was not fixed. The section destroyed was replace. I recall a tanker truck crashed underneath it.

Posted by: MAGA at March 31, 2017 11:55 AM (A4HOq)

307 Hey Vic! Ever since the suckiest Olympics ever, Atlanta has become a metroplex. Just like every other scummy urban Freakshow in America. They slap paint on old warehousesand rent out 300 square-foot rabbit hutches to the urban hipsters. There are a lot of people that go down there to shop particularly to IKEA, and other locations around town. Centennial Park is a hotspot and this is the season for outdoor concert at Chastain and other places. I don't go down there myself, but I know a lot of people that do.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:56 AM (fLMbU)

308 The "RUSSIANS hacked the election" dummiecrat BS reminds me of the Barky *birther* people. Somehow TPTB are going to prove that Trump worked with "the Russians" to get some more media exposure of Hillary's character flaws and this will result in him being removed from office and somehow things are then right with the world. Except sadly some big league FNM names and Dem politicians are feeding the "russian hacking" conspiracy nonsense to their hard left base. I suppose this has been happening since Kennedy or even earlier but I never used to be fully aware of the real facts + tuned in to the fact that the FNM were hyping lies to advance their party.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 31, 2017 11:56 AM (eASYU)

309 292 Melania has nice tits. Okay, that's not fake news. I just wanted to say it. Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 04:37 PM (Fmupd) ................ They may be nice fake tits. Posted by: wth Russian cosmetic surgery. Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at March 31, 2017 04:53 PM (k7fBu) If so, not done by Hackers... they are magnificent...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 31, 2017 11:56 AM (NgKpN)

310 Saw some kind of Life magazine about first ladies,Of course it was Jackie O,Eleanor Roosevelt (ewww,even that crip didn't bang that beast),Laura Bush(she's okay now because she hates Trump) and of course the biggest picture was of Mooch.

Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2017 11:56 AM (r/0kC)

311

 

The PVC was being stored there, no idea for what or why.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 31, 2017 04:55 PM (4uPO9)

 

 

Okay that makes sense now thanks

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 31, 2017 11:57 AM (lKyWE)

312 In good news, the Texas dad who beat his daughter's molester to death is not being punished for his heroic deed of street justice. Which do you figure is a greater deterrance: probation and maybe jail time.... or dad beating you to death?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 11:57 AM (39g3+)

313 In nice tits news, Carl's Jr has announced that they are ending the ad campaign featuring scantily clad large breasted spokes models ............ Maybe Der Weinerschnitzel can pick up the slack.

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 11:57 AM (HgMAr)

314 Saw some kind of Life magazine about first ladies,Of course it was Jackie O,Eleanor Roosevelt (ewww,even that crip didn't bang that beast),Laura Bush(she's okay now because she hates Trump) and of course the biggest picture was of Mooch. Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2017 04:56 PM (r/0kC) Well she does dwarf normal sized women

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 11:58 AM (493sH)

315 Wasn't there a bridge up in Minneapolis too a few years back?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 11:58 AM (6Ll1u)

316 On top of the I 85 closure, first exhibition game at the new Suntrust park at 285 & 75 is tonight. Yikes!

Posted by: Flyboy [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2017 11:58 AM (4uPO9)

317 On the radio, Atlanta sounds like it will be a traffic dystopian nightmare, more so than it already is

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 31, 2017 11:59 AM (lCTsV)

318 The Birmingham bridge was not fixed. The section destroyed was replace. I recall a tanker truck crashed underneath it. Posted by: MAGA at March 31, 2017 04:55 PM (A4HOq) === Well that's optimistic then. How was the traffic routed around the problem in Birmingham? Because it Atlantas alternate routes and surface streets suck balls. I like Birmingham. UAB takes up a whole lot of downtown.Birmingham has lots of traffic but nothing like the crush in Atlanta.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 11:59 AM (fLMbU)

319 Holy cats.  The Rotary International Convention in Atlanta June 10-14 has a record number of attendees pre-registered:  21,000.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 31, 2017 11:59 AM (PY9jH)

320 307  I don't go down there myself, but I know a lot of people that do.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 04:56 PM (fLMbU)


I would never go there voluntarily.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 31, 2017 11:59 AM (mpXpK)

321 All I know is journalists can just barely tie their shoes. Anything they say is assumed to be wrong...and partisan...but mostly wrong.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 31, 2017 12:00 PM (cOHS7)

322 Nood

Posted by: Flyboy [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2017 12:00 PM (4uPO9)

323 "Which do you figure is a greater deterrance: probation and maybe jail time.... or dad beating you to death?" Nothing deters dumbshits.

Posted by: Meremortal ,., at March 31, 2017 12:00 PM (3myMJ)

324 Drexel professor George Ciccariello-Maher tweeted on Sunday: "Some guy on Fox News gave up his airtime for a supposed Russian expert stating there is no evidence Russia hacked the election. People are thanking him. I'm trying not to vomit or yell about 'Putin!'."

Posted by: [/b][/i][/s]Muldoon at March 31, 2017 12:00 PM (wPiJc)

325 Ever since the suckiest Olympics ever, Atlanta has become a metroplex. Just like every other scummy urban Freakshow in America. They slap paint on old warehousesand rent out 300 square-foot rabbit hutches to the urban hipsters. Even the Braves moved out of that ballpark after not all that long.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 12:01 PM (39g3+)

326 Saw some kind of Life magazine about first ladies,Of course it was Jackie O,Eleanor Roosevelt (ewww,even that crip didn't bang that beast),Laura Bush(she's okay now because she hates Trump) and of course the biggest picture was of Mooch.

Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2017 04:56 PM (r/0kC)



Well she does dwarf normal sized women

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 04:58 PM (493sH)


-----------------------------


When someone tells The Mooch to "haul ass" it takes her two trips.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 31, 2017 12:01 PM (cOHS7)

327 Carl's problem is that their menu is too large for a fast food burger joint. Actually that's the problem with most of the fast food joints now, Carl's is just the worst. Pick a product and make it the best you can and quit trying to have a million versions. In and Out and Whataburger do it the best.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 31, 2017 12:01 PM (9KUj4)

328 307 Hey Vic! Ever since the suckiest Olympics ever, Atlanta has become a metroplex. Just like every other scummy urban Freakshow in America. They slap paint on old warehousesand rent out 300 square-foot rabbit hutches to the urban hipsters. There are a lot of people that go down there to shop particularly to IKEA, and other locations around town. Centennial Park is a hotspot and this is the season for outdoor concert at Chastain and other places. I don't go down there myself, but I know a lot of people that do. Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 04:56 PM (fLMbU) ------------------ Downtown Atlanta is nice. Had a good time there.

Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2017 12:01 PM (Fmupd)

329 316 On top of the I 85 closure, first exhibition game at the new Suntrust park at 285 & 75 is tonight. Yikes! ==== 285 is a parking lot anyway on a regular day. It is going to be absolute, unmitigated hell for six months. Absolute hell.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 31, 2017 12:02 PM (fLMbU)

330 270 Hey Ace - Do you realize the report Crowdstrike pulled back was not the one on the DNC hack? They pulled back a report of Russia hacking Ukranian military technology.

Still.. doesn't do much for their reputation - especially considering the FBI never did their own analysis.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 31, 2017 04:46 PM (so+oy)


This explains how the Russians hacked DNC CS report falls apart pretty well.


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/01/ crowdstrikes-russian-hacking-story-fell-apart-2-dni-report-faked-sources.html


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 31, 2017 12:02 PM (GX63o)

331 Every time I go to Atlanta, I have to have multiple extraction contingencies. I pretend like I'm Snake Plissken when he entered New York or L.A.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 31, 2017 12:02 PM (lCTsV)

332 Oh, and it's just Weinerschnitzel now, they dropped the Der. And the best thing there is the beer.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 31, 2017 12:02 PM (6Ll1u)

333 Forget the burger. I'd like to see Nina Agdal wolf down a jumbo dog.

Posted by: wth at March 31, 2017 12:04 PM (HgMAr)

334 Well she does dwarf normal sized women Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2017 04:58 PM (493sH) ----------------------------- When someone tells The Mooch to "haul ass" it takes her two trips. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable The horse on he Polo shirt is life sized.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at March 31, 2017 12:05 PM (4Utw1)

335 Carl's problem is that their menu is too large for a fast food burger joint. Actually that's the problem with most of the fast food joints now, Carl's is just the worst. Nah, Jack in The Box still has them beat. Their drive through board is like a billboard. You could show drive in movies on that thing. And its all awful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2017 12:05 PM (39g3+)

336 When someone tells The Mooch to "haul ass" it takes her two trips. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 31, 2017 05:01 PM (cOHS7) There's a Chuck Norris joke in here somewhere.

Posted by: filbert at March 31, 2017 12:06 PM (nUFhj)

337 Actually as I remember now it was an Impact Award, which is a Commendation Award with a V device, one step below a Bronze Star.

Posted by: Javems at March 31, 2017 12:06 PM (yOqwj)

338 Wasn't there a bridge up in Minneapolis too a few years back? Posted by: Tinfoilbaby Back in '08. Scared the crap outta me, still have family there and wanted to be sure none of them were anywhere near. (They weren't.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 31, 2017 12:06 PM (9krrF)

339 SunTrust Park and the economic center surrounding it was modelled after Coors Field, which was a huge success beyond Denver's immagine for the Lower Downtown area. SunTrust Park will have a huge impact I predict for the area.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 31, 2017 12:07 PM (lCTsV)

340 Saddam did his level best to keep up the illusion

He played the scare Iran without pissing US off too bad for over a decade.  Should've recalibrated his asshole-o-meter after 9/11.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 31, 2017 12:13 PM (FhXTo)

341 What the actual fuck.

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343 "It's fucking scary to see these talking heads regurgitate this very simplistic propaganda. It's the childlike simplicity of the talking points that seems like straight out of a Twilight Zone episode. Posted by: Max Power at March 31, 2017 04:34 PM (q177U)" The Gostak distimed the Doshes! You gonna let them get away with that?!

Posted by: GalosGann at March 31, 2017 12:36 PM (md1b/)

344 I always knew it was not Russia re: DNC/Podesta hack. The UK Ambassador who works with wikileaks openly said it was not Russia, and he met the source.

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