June 30, 2008
— Ace Seems a tad optimistic to me -- and what then do we make of John "Secure the Border First" McCain's promise to seek amnesty on day one of his administration?
Even Chertoff, offering a rosy prediction, says it will take three years.
Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff said tightened security on the U.S.-Mexico border has sparked increased violence there and that the border probably will not be fully secure until 2011, three years after the Bush administration leaves office.
"(Increased violence) is what typically happens when you start to enforce and make it harder to fight over the shrinking pie, so to speak, and who gets the best opportunity to exploit the additional space that's left," Chertoff said at a news conference at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection headquarters in Washington, D.C. on Monday.
"That's a good sign," he said. "The bad news is, it's created a lot of violence and created a lot of havoc, particularly in Mexico."
"We have to recognize that both countries (U.S. and Mexico) have a common interest in securing the border," Chertoff said.
"I think we will have made a dramatic amount of progress," he said. "I think if we continue on the course we've set now we can get the border secure ... sometime in 2011."
Posted by: GarandFan at June 30, 2008 02:30 PM (eJ32B)
You did hear that, didn't you Senator McCain? Talk to us about Shamnesty in 2011.
Posted by: Dusty at June 30, 2008 02:38 PM (GJLeQ)
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Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2008 06:16 PM (fenBi)
Sure, that's why Mexico hands out a manual on how to infiltrate. Jesus Hussein Christ, they think we are idiots.
Posted by: joe at June 30, 2008 06:40 PM (YcIuv)
"Oh, yeah, it woulda been secure if my successors had stayed the course"
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 30, 2008 06:43 PM (XIXhw)
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at June 30, 2008 06:47 PM (1Ts/k)
Wait, Mexico shares our interest in a secure border? You mean they don't want all that money the illegals here send home even though it's their second largest revenue stream?
Glad you cleared that up.
Posted by: captkidney at June 30, 2008 07:01 PM (LhGpt)
Oh, Mexico takes an enormous interest in securing its border. The one with Guatemala, that is. The one with us, not so much.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at June 30, 2008 07:01 PM (kKgTD)
Does this Chertoff character just naturally piss people off without even hearing him speak? Like he did when I first saw him?? Am I paddling with one oar here???
Posted by: Esteban at June 30, 2008 07:13 PM (X7Ey1)
Yeah. That's what I find so annoying about this illegal immigration issue.
The majority of Americans are unhappy with illegal immigration, and populist demonization of exploitative "big business" always goes over well (especially when, you know, it's actually true).
Going after the employers seems like a no-brainer to me. It would be very popular, while mostly side-stepping controversy over the details of the border and the treatment of illegal aliens. And even better, it would actually work.
(So of course the GOP, in typical form, isn't gonna do it.)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 30, 2008 07:16 PM (VC56G)
Border to Be Completely Gone by 2009
Thanks President Obama!
Posted by: Jones at June 30, 2008 07:49 PM (XNzgD)
Posted by: combat18 at June 30, 2008 09:13 PM (onLkk)
By 2011 there will be no more Mexicans illegally crossing the border into the U.S.
They will all be here.
Posted by: lmg at June 30, 2008 09:36 PM (hEMOH)
Posted by: adamthemad at June 30, 2008 10:38 PM (FBhoV)
pos on fire
Posted by: budgirl75 at July 01, 2008 02:55 AM (tsUp3)
Posted by: redherkey at July 01, 2008 04:45 AM (kjqFg)
But neither wants to. No donations in it I guess.
Posted by: Aaron at July 01, 2008 05:06 AM (UGsbS)
Posted by: trentk269 at July 01, 2008 06:09 AM (WUM14)
The problem is in how they define "secure borders". I believe, for instance, that McCain defines a secure border as one where the country has "comprehensive immigration reform" legalizing all those already here illegally and then making it much easier for others to immigrate here. Thus, there is no "legal" border problem as everyone coming in is coming in legally.
I doubt very much that they have as their definition of a "secure border" a border where everyone that comes through is checked, where we have real controls over who comes and how long they stay, etc.
Which is why McCain believes he can tell us he will "secure the borders" and still fight for comprehensive immigration reform and not believe he is lying. He thinks they are the same thing.
Posted by: Great Banana at July 01, 2008 07:20 AM (9hB6b)
Posted by: Jazz Hussein at July 01, 2008 08:47 AM (m2CN7)
Even if we close the border now, that will do nothing to lower the number of illegal immigrants in the short term. What we should do instead is find alternative immigrant sources, and implement strong measures to reduce consumption of immigrants. We need an immigrant cap and trade system that forces big corporations to pay their fair share, and the big immigrant companies to give up more of their windfall immigrant profits. New exploration for immigrants is not the cure.
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Posted by: Potosi Joel at July 01, 2008 10:24 AM (TPRbZ)
<i>Do you morons think the border is more secure now and that illegal immigration enforcement is better now than in 2001? </i>
speaking for my moronic self, no. It is the same as it always has been, that is the problem.
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