October 30, 2014

CDC: FYI, Ebola Can Be Transmitted Through Droplets In the Air
— Ace

As I've mentioned, the CDC has been deliberately misrepresenting the transmission pathway of ebola by stating, over and over and over again, that it was not an "airborne" pathogen.

That relies on a technical meaning of the word "airborne" which scientists understand but which the CDC has been counting on the public to be ignorant of. "Airborne," so used, means that a disease is capable of forming dry motes that can float about in the air.

Ebola can't do that. (Yet. We think.)

But most people hear "airborne" and think about the most likely pathway of transmission through the air -- a sneeze.

And ebola can be spread that way-- that method of contagion is called "droplet" transmission (as each particle of disease lives within a droplet of saliva or phlegm expelled from the carrier).

They just lie and lie, and then say "Trust us."

Ebola is a lot easier to catch than health officials have admitted -- and can be contracted by contact with a doorknob contaminated by a sneeze from an infected person an hour or more before, experts told The Post Tuesday.

"If you are sniffling and sneezing, you produce microorganisms that can get on stuff in a room. If people touch them, they could be" infected, said Dr. Meryl Nass, of the Institute for Public Accuracy in Washington, DC.

Nass pointed to a poster the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention quietly released on its Web site saying the deadly virus can be spread through "droplets."
"Droplet spread happens when germs traveling inside droplets that are coughed or sneezed from a sick person enter the eyes, nose or mouth of another person," the poster states.

Nass slammed the contradiction.

"The CDC said it doesn't spread at all by air, then Friday they came out with this poster," she said. "They admit that these particles or droplets may land on objects such as doorknobs and that Ebola can be transmitted that way."

Meanwhile, the DoD warns that ebola can live on infected surfaces (plastic, etc.) for up to three weeks, under ideal conditions.

And also meanwhile, Kaci Hickox really wants you to know all the f*cks she does not give about your "voluntary quarantine."

Preliminary testing indicates that Ms. Hickox is a "high risk" of being a HuffPo Super-User.


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1 Dumbassery

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 30, 2014 09:07 AM (6/J77)

2 All around dumbassery

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 30, 2014 09:07 AM (6/J77)

3 Top.Men.

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 30, 2014 09:08 AM (rwI+c)

4 They're trying to put a legal quarantine on the biking b*tch, but by the time they work it out, it will be too late, either way.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 30, 2014 09:08 AM (IXrOn)

5 KACI Hickox is going to have to work for government everyone else is going to remember her as the idot that has no clue

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 30, 2014 09:08 AM (6/J77)

6 You know, public service would be an awesome job, it if wasn't for the public. I can't stand them.

Posted by: The CDC at October 30, 2014 09:09 AM (D0bIN)

7 Preliminary testing indicates that Ms. Hickox is a "high risk" of being a HuffPo Super-User. and, her boyfriend has got to be Super-Metro

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 30, 2014 09:09 AM (IXrOn)

8 I think she is exagerating her exposure

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 30, 2014 09:09 AM (6/J77)

9 This was obvious to everyone else right? It's only a short trip via a bodily fluid transmission that remains at body temp.

Posted by: dogfish at October 30, 2014 09:09 AM (NuPNl)

10 So much for the Settled Science from the CDC.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:09 AM (/Xhke)

11 I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at October 30, 2014 09:09 AM (ZPrif)

12 Can't touch me!
Can't touch me!

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:10 AM (JMCjf)

13 I am underwhelmed.  The non-experts here were warning of this weeks ago, while those cocksuckers were running around telling us not to piss our pants.  F them all. I am in a really crappy mood.

Posted by: flounder at October 30, 2014 09:10 AM (sDapq)

14 I literally spit out my drink on that last line. Absolute perfection. Also, we've been saying the droplet thing since Day 1 and yet we're the crazy ones, right?

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:10 AM (BPMYx)

15 *scene from The Hunt for the Red October*

"You a$$ you killed us."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:10 AM (/Xhke)

16 Meanwhile, the DoD warns that ebola can live on infected surfaces (plastic, etc.) for up to three weeks, under ideal conditions. And also meanwhile, Kaci Hickox really wants you to know all the f*cks she does not give about your "voluntary quarantine." ****** Ebola does survives better in cold conditions it looks like according to lab experiments you do not want Ebola doing a freestyle dance in Canada.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:11 AM (RJMhd)

17 CDC: FYI, Ebola Can Be Transmitted Through Droplets In the Air ------ Stand back.

Posted by: Peter North at October 30, 2014 09:11 AM (CzBeD)

18 TRUST YOUR LEADERS!!!

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 30, 2014 09:11 AM (HstNY)

19 Soldiers must be quarantined, because, you know, they are volunteers, not like the volunteer doctors.  They wear uniforms!



Right?  Got that?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 30, 2014 09:11 AM (0FSuD)

20 Good thing chicks don't have semen.

Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at October 30, 2014 09:11 AM (oDCMR)

21 Yes Lauren we have been talking how Ebola can be Aerosol but not Airborne.  And yeah we were the idiots.  Go figure.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:12 AM (/Xhke)

22 ""And also meanwhile, Kaci Hickox really wants you to know all the f*cks she does not give about your "voluntary quarantine."" I wonder if she knows the meaning of "hubris"? Maybe we should have a Greek chorus following her around to point this out...

Posted by: Your Friend Mr. Ebola! at October 30, 2014 09:12 AM (Mrl1e)

23 I thought AoSHQ was a designated Fuck Free Zone.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 30, 2014 09:12 AM (CzBeD)

24 Buffs nails on lapel with smug smile on face.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at October 30, 2014 09:12 AM (jCIqw)

25 "Ebola does survives better in cold conditions it looks like " Winter is coming.

Posted by: Lauren Stark at October 30, 2014 09:12 AM (BPMYx)

26 The real question is, is she subjected to catcalls?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 30, 2014 09:13 AM (XUKZU)

27 Maybe we should have a Greek chorus following her around to point this out... Posted by: Your Friend Mr. Ebola! at October 30, 2014 02:12 PM We're on it.

Posted by: The Frogs at October 30, 2014 09:13 AM (knoK7)

28

Don't worry. Be happy!

/CDC

Posted by: maddogg at October 30, 2014 09:13 AM (xWW96)

29 Posted by: Lauren Stark at October 30, 2014 02:12 PM (BPMYx) Nice.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:13 AM (Zu3d9)

30 I see her more as a Kos kiddie.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 09:13 AM (sgrzZ)

31 So you can get it from sneezes, coughs any fluid from an infected person? Wonderful, just fucking wonderful.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:14 AM (2Aj5D)

32 So is Kaci the Sandra Fluke of ebola? Is this moar War On Women?

Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at October 30, 2014 09:14 AM (oDCMR)

33 Kaci is a dip-shit, but it is unlikely she has Ebola. The problem is that the next dip-shit might have Ebola. And they will treat quarantine the same freaking way. Those backwards benighted Christian hicks from Samaritan's Purse understand the risks and respect their fellow humans. THEY are quarantining.

Posted by: rd at October 30, 2014 09:14 AM (J7NUM)

34 Why do I get the feeling she just photoshopped herself into some pictures and showed up at the airport never having really gone to Arfrica? Is she really a nurse? A person? I mean, we know she's not a good one....

Posted by: Kansascity at October 30, 2014 09:14 AM (Vvz5F)

35 Northern Exposure!

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:14 AM (JMCjf)

36 I read somewhere that the ebola virus could survive up to 60 days on a dry surface. If thats accurate, it can be transmitted through the air.

Posted by: maddogg at October 30, 2014 09:15 AM (xWW96)

37 Posted by: rickb223 at October 30, 2014 02:12 PM (jCIqw) They play word games with our lives.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:15 AM (Zu3d9)

38 Man, if there ever was a person in the world that actually deserved being infected...

Posted by: Buzzion at October 30, 2014 09:15 AM (z/Ubi)

39 Samantha Power: "Ebola thrives on fear." No it doesn't, you idiot. It thrives on ignorance, of which you and your associates in this administration possess in abundance.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 30, 2014 09:15 AM (l3vZN)

40 25 "Ebola does survives better in cold conditions it looks like " Winter is coming. Posted by: Lauren Stark at October 30, 2014 02:12 PM (BPMYx) ******** Yep. Holy crap I smucked up that comment. I really am afraid of Ebola in a cold climate.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:15 AM (RJMhd)

41 20 Good thing chicks don't have semen. Posted by: Super Creepy Rob Lowe at October 30, 2014 02:11 That was creepy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:15 AM (2Aj5D)

42 Meanwhile, let's all remind ourselves that despite decades of studying Ebola in its natural habitat in Africa, it still is completely unclear which reservoir species -- or species plural -- Ebola lives in when it's not infecting humans.

So one outcome of deliberately bringing Ebola-infected humans into the USA is that Ebola may find a new nonhuman reservoir species here Stateside, vanish into the wild, and become impossible to contain.

The USA will get to be like West Africa: a place where Ebola is a locally endemic disease. Where Ebola goes away for a while and then abruptly reappears and slaughters a bunch of people.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 30, 2014 09:15 AM (noWW6)

43 Yes Lauren we have been talking how Ebola can be Aerosol but not Airborne . And yeah we were the idiots. Go figure. Call out The Big Red One 101st Aerosol Division!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at October 30, 2014 09:16 AM (jCIqw)

44 F*ck Ms. Hickox.. and by that I mean I would not touch her with a 20 foot pole!  If she gets Ebola, she can damn well stay right where she is... but no, then she'll be crying for help.  Eff you, honey!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 30, 2014 09:16 AM (4+IgA)

45 Actually, I thrive all over the place, baby!

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (JMCjf)

46 I really am afraid of Ebola in a cold climate. Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 02:1 Cold is such a subjective term, just ask Nip Sip.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (2Aj5D)

47 Actually Torque Wrench we have found the US reservoir animal - Democrats.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (/Xhke)

48 It's more important to the maturity of the country to understand why I am the way I am.

Posted by: Fat Dyke at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (Z7toi)

49

Link to my #36

http://tinyurl.com/nx6bjq5

Posted by: maddogg at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (xWW96)

50 Gee, it would be really bad if some deadly disease made it to the  U.S because we have such an open border policy.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (sgrzZ)

51 Maine keeps making threats and nurse bitch holds he ground. Either so something or not.

Posted by: The Progs at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (iQIUe)

52 I want to know if the CDC is preventing her from going back to her job ... at the CDC.

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (rwI+c)

53 And also meanwhile, Kaci Hickox really wants you to know all the f*cks she does not give about your "voluntary quarantine."



A pipe to the kneecaps would keep her still.

Posted by: EC at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (GQ8sn)

54 I love the real experts and/or rationally thinking doctors coming out in support of quarantine after this dipsh*t's temper tantrum. One guy self-quarantined. Others are saying, it's the only smart thing to do.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 30, 2014 09:17 AM (IXrOn)

55 Meanwhile, let's all remind ourselves that despite decades of studying Ebola in its natural habitat in Africa, it still is completely unclear which reservoir species -- or species plural -- Ebola lives in when it's not infecting humans. So one outcome of deliberately bringing Ebola-infected humans into the USA is that Ebola may find a new nonhuman reservoir species here Stateside, vanish into the wild, and become impossible to contain. The USA will get to be like West Africa: a place where Ebola is a locally endemic disease. Where Ebola goes away for a while and then abruptly reappears and slaughters a bunch of people. Posted by: torquewrench at October 30, 2014 02:15 PM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This!!! God Forbid Ebola-Americana may be Obama's Legacy.

Posted by: rd at October 30, 2014 09:18 AM (J7NUM)

56 Doesn't Maine have an airport?  Get the hose down a flaming 727 truck, refill the foam tank with bleach, hose the snowflake right off her bike into a ditch, repeat with her lawyers and the news crew, repeat until they STFU and comply.  If she'd been set on fire when she first broke quarantine she'd be out and safely buried by now.  And bonus round I could quit struggling to spell quarantine.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at October 30, 2014 09:18 AM (DL2i+)

57 Is it me or does Kaci Hickox resemble Debbie Wasserman Schultz more and more every day?

Posted by: Average Jen at October 30, 2014 09:18 AM (9S4/U)

58 Also about the droplet zone. I the CDC pushing the three feet zone--because some places advise a six foot radius. I'll take 6 feet--call me wimpy- I.Do.Not.Care.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:18 AM (RJMhd)

59 Anyone heard from the Ebola Czar? Ebola Czar? Ebola Czar? Buehler?

Posted by: Citizen X at October 30, 2014 09:18 AM (7ObY1)

60 I ceased believing anything this set of lying assholes say long ago.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at October 30, 2014 09:18 AM (u9gzs)

61

>>>A pipe to the kneecaps would keep her still.

 

*Nods*

 

-2 save vs. petrification.

Posted by: Bigby's Chopstick-Fail at October 30, 2014 09:18 AM (3ZtZW)

62 I'm thinking of preparing a fricassee of fruit bat and bush meat for dinner tonight.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 09:18 AM (lVPtV)

63 From the article. Ebola thrives on fear. - Samantha Power. Huh? Ebola thrive on ignorance. See Muslim burial habits. They all lack feck.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 30, 2014 09:19 AM (wVWRM)

64 Me too Vic.

Posted by: eleven at October 30, 2014 09:19 AM (GXZgZ)

65 "And also meanwhile, Kaci Hickox really wants you to know all the f*cks she does not give about your "voluntary quarantine."" If this was a play, I know what would happen in the next act.

Posted by: Zombie Anton Chekhov at October 30, 2014 09:19 AM (Mrl1e)

66 As time goes on we'll see more of these "oh well yeah its easier to get than we said" revelations, most after the November election deadline.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 30, 2014 09:19 AM (39g3+)

67 But, but, if we have quarantines, doctors will no longer be willing to help dying people in Africa.

Posted by: Kansascity at October 30, 2014 09:19 AM (Vvz5F)

68 Bless her heart.

Posted by: Fritz at October 30, 2014 09:19 AM (UzPAd)

69 Hey Samantha Power, got this BEne Gesseriat Reverend Mother here.  She wants to test you.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:19 AM (/Xhke)

70 Yes, I very much doubt her story about cradling a child dying of Ebola. However, that NBC cameraman just sprayed down a car, so obviously not much contact is necessary. I'd still bet money she doesn't have Ebola, which as you pointed out, matters not one damn bit since it will just make other people who *are* infected feel comfortable saying "fuck you" to quarantine procedures.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:19 AM (BPMYx)

71 *Nods*

-2 save vs. petrification.

Posted by: Bigby's Chopstick-Fail at October 30, 2014 02:18 PM (3ZtZW)



It's hard to go bike-riding with hyper extended knees.



Posted by: EC at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (GQ8sn)

72 57 Is it me or does Kaci Hickox resemble Debbie Wasserman Schultz more and more every day?

Posted by: Average Jen at October 30, 2014 02:18 PM (9S4/U)




Same hairstylist.  Wet hair, hair pin, electric outlet.  Voila!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (lVPtV)

73 "A pipe to the kneecaps would keep her still. " It was good enough for Nancy Kerrigan

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (39g3+)

74 What, Samantha Power doesn't have a hashtag handy to #StopEbola???

Posted by: Citizen X at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (7ObY1)

75 59 Anyone heard from the Ebola Czar? Ebola Czar? Ebola Czar? Buehler? -------- Yup. And he was not happy.

Posted by: The MFM at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (HstNY)

76 These "squirrel" animals look kinda neat. Do dogs like eating them?
Just asking for a friend.

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (JMCjf)

77 I'm going to go contrary on this one regarding quarantine. I'll put it this way: Do you trust the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to use the power to quarantine a suspected infectee in a manner which (A) effectively protects the public and (B) is not blatantly abusive for political ends? I know what my answer is. Much as I think Hicox is a dangerous, selfish scrunt, unless she actually shows legit signs of ebola (regular testing!), no quarantine. And no preventative quarantine just because someone was there. I trusted gov't with unusual powers once before, after 9/11. I'll be damned if I make that mistake twice.

Posted by: Brother Cavil plays poorly with others at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (rt3TY)

78 Where Ebola goes away for a while and then abruptly reappears and slaughters a bunch of people.

Story of Obama...

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (DL2i+)

79 57 Is it me or does Kaci Hickox resemble Debbie Wasserman Schultz more and more every day? Posted by: Average Jen at October 30, 2014 02:18 Hickoxstein, a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (2Aj5D)

80 I'm thinking of preparing a fricassee of fruit bat and bush meat for dinner tonight.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 02:18 PM (lVPtV)



Seasoned properly, you could serve it to your libtard relatives this Thanksgiving.



Posted by: EC at October 30, 2014 09:20 AM (GQ8sn)

81 Meanwhile, let's all remind ourselves that despite decades of studying Ebola in its natural habitat in Africa, it still is completely unclear which reservoir species -- or species plural -- Ebola lives in when it's not infecting humans. ****** Meanwhile a zoo in California imported -- FRUIT BATS--where squirrels can get into the cage. Normally I would think they made sure they were ebola free but let's just say my confidence level is--low.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (RJMhd)

82 Why do I get the feeling she just photoshopped herself into some pictures and showed up at the airport never having really gone to Arfrica? Is she really a nurse? A person? I mean, we know she's not a good one....

Posted by: Kansascity at October 30, 2014 02:14 PM (Vvz5F)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

The longer this goes on,  the more convinced I am that she's a dem plant  to make the concerns of the general public seem like a "conspiracy theory".

 

And you  all know about people that  believe in conspiracy theories.  They're  CRRRAAAAZZZY.

Posted by: Soona at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (7qiSs)

83 ot Epic is right. DAN BONGINO'S EPIC RESPONSE TO BEING ACCUSED OF A WAR ON WOMEN I had no idea. http://therightscoop.com/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (IXrOn)

84 The USA will get to be like West Africa: a place where Ebola is a locally endemic disease. Where Ebola goes away for a while and then abruptly reappears and slaughters a bunch of people. Kinda like polio or TB, huh?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (jCIqw)

85 "So one outcome of deliberately bringing Ebola-infected humans into the USA is that Ebola may find a new nonhuman reservoir species here Stateside, vanish into the wild, and become impossible to contain." Not possible! Er - except that's what happened with bubonic plague, isn't it?

Posted by: A Sierra Marmot at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (Mrl1e)

86 Yay! Reports of Rehanna's beheading turned out to be bullshit.

Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (fWAjv)

87 "Airborne," so used, means that a disease is capable of forming dry motes that can float about in the air. Ebola can't do that. (Yet. We think.) The distinction is really important, though. We've talked about the NYC doctor who went on the subway, to the bowling alley, etc. If you could get sick merely by entering those places, hours later, simply by breathing the same air he breathed, that would be the type of transmission being discussed (and denied) here. All the evidence to date suggests that the virus does not transmit that way, and worrying that it will start to is not helpful.

Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (hmPdt)

88 fricassee of fruit bat and bush meat for dinner tonight. Thoughts? Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 02:18 PM Substitute free-range hobo and pair with a drier red.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (knoK7)

89 My mainstay is surprise, surprise and fear. Fear and suprise are my two mainstays. My two mainstays are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency. That's three. My mainstays are fear, suprise, ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to viral reproduction...all right, I'll come in again.

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:21 AM (DrWcr)

90 Well, it's a good thing no one sneezes or coughs on buses or planes.
Or I might, you know, "panic" like a crazy reichwing nutjob or something.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 30, 2014 09:22 AM (D/504)

91 "Ebola thrives on fear. - Samantha Power. " What the...? No, fear is a great way of stopping Ebola because you stay the hell away from someone who may be infected, which is the best possible thing that you can do. Ebola does, however, thrive on paranoia and mistrust of authorities since it results in things like burning ebola wards and setting ebola patients free. And how do we stop paranoia and mistrust? STOP LYING TO PEOPLE.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:22 AM (BPMYx)

92 Veterinarian called into the Chris Plante show this AM and noted that if he wanted to impost a completely asymptomatic equine from Africa (excluding Morocco for some reason), the USDA would impose a mandatory 60 day quarantine at an approved USDA facility.

Typical liberals, safeguarding the animals is more important than safeguarding the humans.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 30, 2014 09:22 AM (o3MSL)

93 a little elbow bumping will solve this problem, plus it's way cool.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 30, 2014 09:22 AM (XUKZU)

94 Posted by: torquewrench at October 30, 2014 02:15 PM Here's something to cheer you up: The reservoir species in West Africa have been dealing with Ebola for a long time. It undoubtedly has reached some equilibrium state. Introducing it to a new environment -- with new vectors and species -- will have unintended consequences that are simply unknowable....until they happen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:22 AM (Zu3d9)

95 Reports of Rehanna's beheading turned out to be bullshit. Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 30, 2014 02:21 PM (fWAjv) Link? I'd love to see verification that she is indeed still alive and kicking ISIS ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 30, 2014 09:22 AM (DrWcr)

96 *cough* "Hey, does this bus stop at Olive and 8th?"

Posted by: Kaci Smallpox at October 30, 2014 09:23 AM (8TdcF)

97 Jinx beat me to it. And props to Vic for the Muslim burial info.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 30, 2014 09:23 AM (wVWRM)

98 The distinction isn't even difficult to explain. I mean, hell, if we can get it anyone can! You know, this is a symptom of the idiotic never admit you don't know something pretense that's all the rage. I do not know is a perfectly fine answer when, get this, you don't know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at October 30, 2014 09:23 AM (mf5HN)

99 So slathering your hair with mayonnaise cures Ebola, or does the mayo act more like a Venus fly trap?

Posted by: Fritz at October 30, 2014 09:23 AM (UzPAd)

100 I eat a lot of bush meat. Filled the freezer with one each 8 point buck this morning (well, he should have been 8 point, bastard knocked an eyeguard off fighting over cooze).

Posted by: maddogg at October 30, 2014 09:24 AM (xWW96)

101 Also about the droplet zone. I the CDC pushing the three feet zone--because some places advise a six foot radius. I'll take 6 feet--call me wimpy- I.Do.Not.Care. Is it really projectile vomiting or explosive, rocket diarrhea if it stays within a three foot radius?

Posted by: rickb223 Airborne, Like the General Lee[/s][/b][/I] at October 30, 2014 09:24 AM (jCIqw)

102 87 "Airborne," so used, means that a disease is capable of forming dry motes that can float about in the air. Ebola can't do that. (Yet. We think.) The distinction is really important, though. We've talked about the NYC doctor who went on the subway, to the bowling alley, etc. If you could get sick merely by entering those places, hours later, simply by breathing the same air he breathed, that would be the type of transmission being discussed (and denied) here. All the evidence to date suggests that the virus does not transmit that way, and worrying that it will start to is not helpful. Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 02:21 PM (hmPdt) ********** Well sunlight does kill ebola but you know what isn't helpful-- rolling into a near windowless bowling alley with your fever at 103. (Corrected later to 100.3--but at this point--I suspect that might have been done to supposedly quell the rubes.)

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:24 AM (RJMhd)

103 Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at October 30, 2014 02:23 PM You're making too much sense. Stop that right now.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 30, 2014 09:24 AM (knoK7)

104 74 What, Samantha Power doesn't have a hashtag handy to #StopEbola??? ------- It's worse than that. Link in nic.

Posted by: Ambassador Power at October 30, 2014 09:24 AM (HstNY)

105 A pipe to the kneecaps would keep her still.

Posted by: EC at October 30, 2014 02:17 PM (GQ8sn) 


I wouldn't touch her with your pipe.



Posted by: Tonya Harding at October 30, 2014 09:25 AM (sDapq)

106 99So slathering your hair with mayonnaise cures Ebola, or does the mayo act more like a Venus fly trap?

Posted by: Fritz at October 30, 2014 02:23 PM (UzPAd)

 

 

Mayo works great to get rid of hair lice also.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 09:25 AM (sgrzZ)

107 Has anyone heard from the Duncan family? It seems odd that nobody has interviewed them. Are they alive?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262 at October 30, 2014 09:25 AM (9Bdcz)

108 "All the evidence to date suggests that the virus does not transmit that way, and worrying that it will start to is not helpful." No one is saying it does (although I'd like to direct all the smug assholes to the Reston monkeys ). We're saying that droplet transmission mean that he could have spread it by coughing on his bowling ball, and that is absolutely true. The only good thing is that it *seems* like droplet transmission isn't much of a threat early in the disease.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:25 AM (BPMYx)

109 >>"Ebola thrives on fear. - Samantha Power. "

Uh, does the climate do this, too?

There's a difference between fear and...precaution, healthy skepticism and concern about the cavalier way in which our government is handling this.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 30, 2014 09:25 AM (D/504)

110 AlextheChick, someone in previous thread made a height joke.  Said Rachel Corrie is still taller.  Do I need to expedite a Ravage order?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:25 AM (/Xhke)

111 Ebola at October 30, 2014 02:21 PM (DrWcr)
Hey, bro. Didn't I see you in Monrovia a couple of months ago? Are you Stateside yet?

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:25 AM (JMCjf)

112 I still say if she wants to go on a grand tour of polling places in Philly, LA, Denver, etc. between now and next Tuesday I'll buy a bunny suit and drive her around, followed (presumably at a safe distance and surrounded by the smell of Clorox) by the local press.

Posted by: JEM at October 30, 2014 09:26 AM (o+SC1)

113 Michael Jordan said Obama is a "shitty golfer." When did Michael Jordan become a rayciss?

Posted by: Citizen X at October 30, 2014 09:26 AM (7ObY1)

114 Samantha Power: "Ebola thrives on fear."

This doesn't even make sense.  It thrives on exposure to people.

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 30, 2014 09:26 AM (rwI+c)

115 13 I am underwhelmed. The non-experts here were warning of this weeks ago, while those cocksuckers were running around telling us not to piss our pants. F them all. I am in a really crappy mood. Posted by: flounder at October 30, 2014 02:10 PM (sDapq) This sort of thing has been going on for a very long time. "What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass." --Lord Melbourne--

Posted by: D-Lamp at October 30, 2014 09:27 AM (txvbW)

116 Hey, bro. Didn't I see you in Monrovia a couple of months ago? Are you Stateside yet? Posted by: Ebola Hey, brah! I'm rollin' into the hood myself! Let's see if we can spring Smallpox and have a house party!

Posted by: Polio at October 30, 2014 09:27 AM (rt3TY)

117 Ebola thrives on fear. - Samantha Power. - Pure rhetorical bullshit. Ebola doesn't give a Mooch ass if you're afraid.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 30, 2014 09:28 AM (XUKZU)

118 110AlextheChick, someone in previous thread made a height joke. Said Rachel Corrie is still taller. Do I need to expedite a Ravage order?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 02:25 PM (/Xhke)

 

 

I thought the truth was the ulitmate defense? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 09:28 AM (sgrzZ)

119 The stephanopolis thing in the sidebar is two years old.  Just sayin.'

Posted by: Null at October 30, 2014 09:28 AM (P7hip)

120 101 Also about the droplet zone. I the CDC pushing the three feet zone--because some places advise a six foot radius. I'll take 6 feet--call me wimpy- I.Do.Not.Care. Is it really projectile vomiting or explosive, rocket diarrhea if it stays within a three foot radius? Posted by: rickb223 Airborne, Like the General Lee at October 30, 2014 02:24 PM (jCIqw) ******* I really--am this close to sort of extremely disliking Liberals. What is the new "policy" answer for everything-- The Chickenshit Take Down? Reasonably scared of ebola? Obama Administration Answer: Chickenshit! Reasonably wary of bombing Iran? Obama Administration Answer: Chickenshit! Its like they are rulers of the third grade playground--and they send their little media lackies to kick everyone into line.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:28 AM (RJMhd)

121 Link? I'd love to see verification that she is indeed still alive and kicking ISIS ass. Posted by: Insomniac at October 30, 2014 02:22 PM (DrWcr) http://tinyurl.com/mxzbp4a The female Kurdish fighter who became a poster girl for the Kobane resistance before allegedly being beheaded by Islamic State militants is actually alive and well, it was claimed today. The woman, known by the pseudonym Rehana, was celebrated as a symbol of hope for the besieged Syrian border city after an image of her making a peace sign was retweeted over 5,000 times. That picture was followed days later by a gruesome photograph of an ISIS terrorist holding the severed head of a young woman, sparking rumours that Rehana had been savagely murdered. But now friends of Rehana have told MailOnline that the dead woman in the photograph is in fact a different Kurdish resistance fighter, adding that Rehana managed to escape Kobane during intense fighting there last week and is now believed to be living in southern Turkey.

Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 30, 2014 09:28 AM (fWAjv)

122 that the virus does not transmit that way, probably not yet and worrying that it will start to is not helpfulpart of a sane response to a disease that purees your liver

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at October 30, 2014 09:28 AM (DL2i+)

123 Hey, brah! I'm rollin' into the hood myself! Let's see if we can spring Smallpox and have a house party! Posted by: Polio at October 30, 2014 02:27 PM (rt3TY) What up, cuz? Party up in the hizzouse!

Posted by: Enterovirus68 at October 30, 2014 09:28 AM (DrWcr)

124 When did Ebola become self-aware?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 09:28 AM (lVPtV)

125 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at October 30, 2014 09:29 AM (xKIE3)

126 Hey, brah! I'm rollin' into the hood myself! Let's see if we can spring Smallpox and have a house party! Posted by: Polio at October 30, 2014 02:27 PM (rt3TY)
Shit. There goes the neighborhood.

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:29 AM (JMCjf)

127 Yay!

Reports of Rehanna's beheading turned out to be bullshit.

Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 30, 2014 02:21 PM (fWAjv)

 

 

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I hope that little hottie is still alive and killing the shit out of ISIS.  A dated pic of her would help.  You know, for verification.

Posted by: Soona at October 30, 2014 09:29 AM (7qiSs)

128 Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at October 30, 2014 02:23 PM (mf5HN) This is the hubris of the modern age. Can you guess what comes after hubris? Nemesis.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:29 AM (Zu3d9)

129 Jane D'oh since the sick vermin of 4Chan created an Ebola-chan mascot

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ebola-chan

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:29 AM (/Xhke)

130 >>Michael Jordan said Obama is a "shitty golfer."

I don't think Obama's golf obsession is really about golf. Its about getting out of the office, outside with some friends, away from the scrutiny of WH staff, family, the press, etc. I think his taking so long for a round is a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 30, 2014 09:29 AM (D/504)

131 The Chinese are starting to get very worried about ebola. They have a huge number of workers in Africa and its just a matter of time before someone brings it back. It will spread like wildfire there.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2014 09:29 AM (g1DWB)

132 ""Airborne," so used, means that a disease is capable of forming dry motes that can float about in the air. Ebola can't do that. (Yet. We think.)" That's not exactly true. The presently feared strain of Ebola appears not to be airborne, but there are strains which are.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 30, 2014 09:29 AM (39g3+)

133 You can get better public health info on AOSHQ than from the CDC.  Plus drink recipes, election coverage and clown alerts.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 09:30 AM (QKIQb)

134
Samantha Power: "Ebola thrives on fear."

Science!


14th Century Science!!

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Being of (Approximate) Knowledge at October 30, 2014 09:30 AM (XGqPs)

135

I am your reservoir species, of course.

Posted by: Some type of Weasel at October 30, 2014 09:30 AM (JtwS4)

136 I thought the truth was the ulitmate defense? Asking for a friend. Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 02:28 PM (sgrzZ) In a civil case for defamation, maybe. When the raptors are after you? You're gonna die bloody.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 30, 2014 09:30 AM (DrWcr)

137 Remember, Marxism works best with a rapidly declining population

Posted by: Iosif Stalin at October 30, 2014 09:30 AM (xKIE3)

138 114 Samantha Power: "Ebola thrives on fear." This doesn't even make sense. It thrives on exposure to people. Posted by: toby928(C) at October 30, 2014 02:26 PM (rwI+c) From what I have read, it thrives on blood and body organs, causing your organs to liquefy and you shit out gallons and gallons of feces. I fear heights but they don't attack me and kill me. She's too f*cking dumb to suck my air.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:30 AM (2Aj5D)

139 For them, its about protecting their sinecures. Government S.O.P.

Posted by: --- at October 30, 2014 09:30 AM (MMC8r)

140 I suspect the Chinese government is ambivalent toward the idea of a huge plague wiping out millions of men in their country.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 30, 2014 09:30 AM (39g3+)

141 Has anyone heard from the Duncan family? It seems odd that nobody has interviewed them. Are they alive?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262 at October 30, 2014 02:25 PM (9Bdcz)


They went to visit the "malaria" patients at a nice resort staffed by the US government!  Unfortunately, the communications into the resort are temporarily out of service!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 30, 2014 09:31 AM (o3MSL)

142 This woman is just an attention whore who is trying to get a book/lifetime movie deal out of this.  I say let the nurse do whatever she wants, but if she ends up infecting anybody else she's on the hook for all the medical bills/pain/suffering AND she faces criminal charges for knowingly exposing others to a lethal disease.  If she complies with the voluntary quarantine then indemnify her from all legal responsibility for other infections. 

Never going to happen, but that's the kind of legal scheme I'd like to see set up for people with known exposure to ebola patients. 

Posted by: not the mama at October 30, 2014 09:31 AM (5dxeo)

143 Instapundit.com @instapundit 7m JONAS SALK, CALL YOUR OFFICE: Doctors Mystified by Paralysis in Dozens of Children. http://bit.ly/1nTxnnj via @instapundit

Posted by: Invasion News Now at October 30, 2014 09:31 AM (ZPrif)

144 Kaci is really a bitch, isn't she? I mean, she's just a bitch. She's probably the person who comes to your Thanksgiving Dinner and then preaches about the oppression of the Noble Savage while bemoaning the lack of gluten free gravy.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:31 AM (BPMYx)

145 When did Ebola become self-aware? Skynet called in. Said it had a virus.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 30, 2014 09:31 AM (rt3TY)

146 When did Ebola become self-aware?
I've been using Woody's therapist and I've been making great strides.

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:31 AM (JMCjf)

147 "Samantha Power: "Ebola thrives on fear." Actually, I thrive on Obama Administration policies! See you soon!

Posted by: Your Friend Mr. Ebola! at October 30, 2014 09:31 AM (Mrl1e)

148
You want more 14th Century Science?

Driving an SUV is bad ju-juu, man. And that bad ju-ju can conjure up evil hurricanes and shit.

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Being of (Approximate) Knowledge at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (XGqPs)

149 I just hope my 15 minutes of fame lasts long enough for me to meet my hero Lena Dunham. 

Posted by: Kaci Hickox at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (OD2ni)

150 Michael Jordan didn't get the Obama invite because Obama didn't want to end the day owing MJ a quarter million dollars. Deep down, in his subconsious, he knows he's inadequate.

Posted by: Oschisms at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (uqV2n)

151 STOP LYING TO PEOPLE.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 02:22 PM (BPMYx)

Nailed it.  And stuck the landing. Kudos.

Posted by: flounder at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (sDapq)

152 The real force driving the panic is that we've so lost any faith in this incompetent government that we don't believe anything it tells us, and that we're more likely to believe it's lying. And that's not on us.

Posted by: --- at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (MMC8r)

153 We'll hear the argument that a sneeze particle doesn't stay in the air so it's not airborne so the only way to catch it is to have an Ebola carrier sneeze in your mouth A sneeze particle it's true does not fly around in the air for hours, that's true. What it does do is land on a surface, still wet and still a vessel for the migrant ebola virus

Posted by: kbdabear at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (aTXUx)

154 14th Century Science!! The 14th century knew enough to link bad smells and disease together. Not sure that this administration has gotten that far yet.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (VI06N)

155 Stop Panicking About Paralyzed Children, Wingnuts!!! JONAS SALK, CALL YOUR OFFICE: Doctors Mystified by Paralysis in Dozens of Children. http://bit.ly/1nTxnnj via @instapundit More than 50 children in 23 states have had mysterious episodes of paralysis to their arms or legs, according to data gathered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Posted by: ProgMedia at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (ZPrif)

156 "When did Ebola become self-aware?"

After it absorbed the self-awareness of Nurse Snowflake.  It's like a personality vampire. Obama should offer himself to the vampire like LifeForce or the Exorcist.  Ebola gets a terminal case of Fail - cue credits.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (QKIQb)

157 14th Century Science!! Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Being of (Approximate) Knowledge at October 30, 2014 02:30 PM (XGqPs) Quick! Close the windows! The bad air is coming.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:32 AM (Zu3d9)

158 Well, one thing you can say about Kaci, is that she is not a lying asshole like the NYC Dr who told police he had never left his apartment.



Cops took is Metro Card, cell phone and CC records to discover he had traveled all over the city.



He should lose his medical license and be prosecuted for lying to the cops.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 30, 2014 09:33 AM (0FSuD)

159 14th Century Science!!

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Being of (Approximate) Knowledge at October 30, 2014 02:30 PM (XGqPs)



This just in: "Leeches cure Ebola".


Note: Details of proper leech disposal are still being evaluated!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 30, 2014 09:33 AM (o3MSL)

160

Posted by: Kaci Hickox at October 30, 2014 02:32 PM (OD2ni)

 

Give Lois Lerner a kiss for me also.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 09:33 AM (sgrzZ)

161 When did Ebola become self-aware? When it learned it could read a calendar.

Posted by: rickb223 Airborne, Like the General Lee[/s][/b][/I] at October 30, 2014 09:33 AM (jCIqw)

162 144 Kaci is really a bitch, isn't she? I mean, she's just a bitch. She's probably the person who comes to your Thanksgiving Dinner and then preaches about the oppression of the Noble Savage while bemoaning the lack of gluten free gravy. Posted by: Lauren a Call her Sandi and its my sister in law for goodness sake.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:33 AM (2Aj5D)

163 On the facebooks (yes, I know) I am in a political discussion group full of flaming lefties (I was drafted to help a friend, otherwise I would have already told everyone to eff off). You would be surprised at how many of these folks are a-ok with mandatory quarantines of folks coming in from the Hot Zone, and almost every single one of them thinks Nurse Special Snowflake is an epic asshole who needs to have any medical credentials she has burned. One or two doofuses think the whole thing is just hyped up BS from the media, but everyone else (no there are a Lot of lefties in this group) all agree that the protecting the public from an outbreak should be the first priority. It shocked me, honestly.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 30, 2014 09:33 AM (qFpRI)

164 they just lie and lie, and then say, "Trust us." This CDC wouldn't havppen to be a government outfit, would it?

Posted by: Truman North, Moron Emeritus at October 30, 2014 09:33 AM (1Qw4v)

165 Ebola Reston, which attacks monkeys, is apparently airborne due to the infection  outbreaks in VA and TX.  In both locations they had multiple shipments of monkeys all segregated away from each group and still some monkeys from other shipments also became sick.  The only thing the shipments shared was the air circulation system.  The humans who worked at both locations also showed antibodies to Ebola Reston but were asymptomatic.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:34 AM (/Xhke)

166 It's amazing how lies, memes, and talking points spread faster in this administration than a fart in a clown car.

Posted by: Fritz at October 30, 2014 09:34 AM (UzPAd)

167 Ebola is not some gawd damn roller coaster where the environment is controlled and you get to ride it to prove how cool and brave you are. You do not ride the Ebola Roller Coaster, ebola rides you.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:34 AM (RJMhd)

168 Posted by: RWC - he who likes guns and boobehs and has a goatee at October 30, 2014 02:28 PM (fWAjv) There's still no verification, unfortunately.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 30, 2014 09:34 AM (DrWcr)

169 The only thing w have to fear is Ebla itself. And ISIS. And an Iranian Nuke. And Rootin' Tootin' Putin. And vote fraud. And corruption in the Justice Department. And the IRS. And . . .

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 30, 2014 09:34 AM (XUKZU)

170 Soldiers must be quarantined, because, you know, they are volunteers, not like the volunteer doctors. They wear uniforms! The thought process is probably more along the lines of: The medical personnel are college educated professionals and can be trusted to do the right thing because they are smaaaht. Whereas, the military personnel are just a bunch of rubes without job prospects who joined to escape the backwoods where they were raise. Of course, "they" need supervision.

Posted by: no good deed at October 30, 2014 09:34 AM (w3a0Z)

171 Doesn't Miss Hiickox resemble Debbie Wasserman-Schulz? At least in that pic.

Posted by: Surellin at October 30, 2014 09:34 AM (pa2Xp)

172 Posted by: Lauren LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 30, 2014 09:35 AM (7kkQJ)

173 The Left really does want to turn the U.S. into a Third World country. They believe that Americans deserve to be punished for our "sins".

Posted by: rickl at October 30, 2014 09:35 AM (zoehZ)

174 Heroic purging is the best Ebola preventative.

Posted by: toby928(C) at October 30, 2014 09:35 AM (rwI+c)

175 No one is saying it does (although I'd like to direct all the smug assholes to the Reston monkeys ). Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 02:25 PM (BPMYx) Follow-up studies were done with said monkeys in specialized environments where air was shared, but any sort of fluid transfer would be impossible. No infection was spread. http://tinyurl.com/obmr2em

Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (hmPdt)

176 It shocked me, honestly.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 30, 2014 02:33 PM (qFpRI)



Why?  Leftys are selfish assholes.  It's all about them.  They feel threaten and they love government controls.


I would be surprised at any other outcome. 

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (0FSuD)

177 169 The only thing w have to fear is Ebla itself. And ISIS. And an Iranian Nuke. And Rootin' Tootin' Putin. And vote fraud. And corruption in the Justice Department. And the IRS. And . . . Posted by: The Great White Snark When does the Bitch in the WH hold up some fucking hashtag, #saveourbitches

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (2Aj5D)

178 It shocked me, honestly. There's actually a split between the commoners and the ruling class on this one.

Posted by: --- at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (MMC8r)

179 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 02:34 PM (/Xhke) Which suggests that human lung tissue does not have sites that favor attachment of the Ebola virus. Or it may mean nothing....because WE DO NOT KNOW!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (Zu3d9)

180 I thought the truth was the ulitmate defense? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 02:28 PM (sgrzZ)


*horde takes one step back from wrg500*

Posted by: flounder at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (sDapq)

181 So Ebola can smell fear now?

Huh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (lVPtV)

182 I remember when Hillary told me the one about the blessing of the 'Arab Spring'

Posted by: Ambassador Stephens at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (xKIE3)

183 The humans who worked at both locations also showed antibodies to Ebola Reston but were asymptomatic. Now that is interesting. One wonders if they could use Reston the way they used cowpox as means of vaccinating against smallpox.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (VI06N)

184 The Polio But Don't Call It Polio worries me a lot since one of my kiddos has asthma. My hope is that homeschooling is keeping us relatively isolated and there will be a vaccination soon. Very scary shit, and unlike Ebola, there is no way to stop it or prevent exposure.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:36 AM (BPMYx)

185 I'm telling you, Kaci is looking for a payday.  She's going to sue everybody and every government who breathed her name (and the lawsuit against christie is going to drag well into the 2016 election cycle) and she's probably already shopping around for book/movie/whatever deals.  This is all part of the dog and pony show.

Posted by: not the mama at October 30, 2014 09:37 AM (5dxeo)

186 50 children paralyzed by a mystery disease shortly after 100k illegal alien kids were placed in American schools without any health screenings ... nah, not newsworthy. The rule is -- If it bleeds, it leads. Nothing in there about children being paralyzed by a mystery disease. Don't think our audience would find that interesting. Where's the news value of mystery illnesses paralyzing 50 children across 23 states?

Posted by: ProgMedia at October 30, 2014 09:37 AM (ZPrif)

187 Doesn't Miss Hiickox resemble Debbie Wasserman-Schulz? At least in that pic.

They use the same mayonnaise on their hair.

Posted by: HR at October 30, 2014 09:37 AM (/kI1Q)

188 caveat with Meryl Nass, she was one of those people that started the witchhunt against Stephen Hatfill.

Posted by: admiral marcus at October 30, 2014 09:37 AM (0u/CC)

189 Whereas, the military personnel are just a bunch of rubes without job prospects who joined to escape the backwoods where they were raise. Of course, "they" need supervision.

Posted by: no good deed at October 30, 2014 02:34 PM (w3a0Z)


Halp us, Jon Cary, we are stuck in Liberia with an Ebola plague!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 30, 2014 09:37 AM (o3MSL)

190 Ass biscuit = airborne 

How's my ass taste?

Posted by: Fritz at October 30, 2014 09:37 AM (UzPAd)

191 *horde takes one step back from wrg500*

Posted by: flounder at October 30, 2014 02:36 PM (sDapq)

 

HEY!!!

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 09:37 AM (sgrzZ)

192 WHO IS OMEGA MAN

Posted by: Charleton Heston at October 30, 2014 09:37 AM (xKIE3)

193 "Ebola Reston, which attacks monkeys, is apparently airborne due to the infection outbreaks in VA and TX."

And monkey-killing Ebola Reston is so genetically close to people-killing Ebola Mayinga that it pops positive on the Mayinga test. 

With this stuff mutating something like every other time it infects a new person, I feel very reassured when Top Men reassure me they survived Ebola twenty years ago so Don't Panic.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 09:38 AM (QKIQb)

194 The election in November will change everything. That's what this next election is all about : Change!

Posted by: Clive Coptic, professional skeptic at October 30, 2014 09:38 AM (BWsQx)

195 >>I suspect the Chinese government is ambivalent toward the idea of a huge plague wiping out millions of men in their country. Given the density of their population in their major cities and their spotty ability to respond to an infectious outbreak at even our pathetic levels, they out to be shitting boulder size bricks.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2014 09:38 AM (g1DWB)

196
Ebola guest-starred on an episode of Star Trek called Day Of The Dove.

Then again on ST The Next Generation as the oil slick monster.

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Being of (Approximate) Knowledge at October 30, 2014 09:38 AM (XGqPs)

197 The government has the right to your bank accounts, your personal information, and can force you to pay for health insurance. But it can't lock you up when you've been exposed to a virulent deadly disease, that would be oppressive.

Posted by: --- at October 30, 2014 09:38 AM (MMC8r)

198 "Now that is interesting. One wonders if they could use Reston the way they used cowpox as means of vaccinating against smallpox." I've thought that too. I've read a few things that say antibodies to one strain don't necessarily protect you from another, but I wonder if that's just theoretical and they just don't know enough to say that you are safe .

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:39 AM (BPMYx)

199 What we need is Ebola sensitivity training. That'll stop it in its tracks.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 30, 2014 09:39 AM (XUKZU)

200 Nailed it, Hrothgar.

Posted by: no good deed at October 30, 2014 09:39 AM (w3a0Z)

201 185 I'm telling you, Kaci is looking for a payday. She's going to sue everybody and every government who breathed her name (and the lawsuit against christie is going to drag well into the 2016 election cycle) and she's probably already shopping around for book/movie/whatever deals. This is all part of the dog and pony show.



She'll end up on Dancing With The Stars or a gig on MSDNC.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 09:39 AM (lVPtV)

202 Hacking Cough?  Don't call 1-800-DOCTORB - The extra B is for 'Bola

Posted by: Doctorb Nick at October 30, 2014 09:39 AM (xKIE3)

203 HAL what special studies with Ebola Reston monkeys?  With the Texas outbreak CDC flew in, killed all 26 infected monkeys, dissected them, and shipped the organs back to Atlanta for study.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:39 AM (/Xhke)

204 Then again on ST The Next Generation as the oil slick monster.

Now it all makes sense.

Posted by: HR at October 30, 2014 09:39 AM (/kI1Q)

205 But it can't lock you up when you've been exposed to a virulent deadly disease, that would be oppressive. Posted by: --- at October 30, 2014 02:38 PM (MMC8r There you go again mixing up your alphabet soup agencies. The CDC does nothing, the IRS, NSA, EPA, OSHA are all out to f*ck you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:40 AM (2Aj5D)

206 John Nolte @NolteNC Tim Cook comes out as gay = Cons shrug. ...comes out as Christian opposed to same sex marriage = fired, media pariah. Who are the bigots?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 30, 2014 09:40 AM (ZPrif)

207 The science is settled- this blog is run by a RethugliKKKan fear-monger who whored his credibility for clicks. Faux Noise and Ewok slashfic fills his days. That assumes there really is a Mr. O'Spades and this is not a Koch Brothers false flag operation.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 30, 2014 09:41 AM (yAQg9)

208 Ebola has nothing to fear but fear itself

Posted by: FDR at October 30, 2014 09:41 AM (xKIE3)

209 We have to take over the world economies and ban fossil fuels because our computer projections say so and the SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!! We can't lock you up for 3 weeks to be sure that you won't kill hundreds because we're kind of pretty sure the SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!!

Posted by: --- at October 30, 2014 09:41 AM (MMC8r)

210 Oh yay.  Next - ebola evolves legs, begins stalking.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Election Day Sale! All Clown Costumes 30% Off at the Outrage Outlet! at October 30, 2014 09:41 AM (hLRSq)

211
It's just funny how today's govt rulers use hackneyed TV plots to fool the citizenry who were raised by TV.

It's brilliant, actually.

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Being of (Approximate) Knowledge at October 30, 2014 09:41 AM (XGqPs)

212 So Samantha Power is advocating "elbow bumping" instead of handshaking because... ebola. Does she NOT know that it's "protocol" to sneeze in your elbow these days? Isn't that what health officials advocate? So, yeah. There's that.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 30, 2014 09:41 AM (IXrOn)

213 This we are sure of: if you are the center person in a human centipede between two Ebola carriers in the last stages of the disease, your chances of contracting Ebola not less than 5% and not greater than 100%.  

Posted by: CDC brings the SCIENCE! Bitches at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (ph333)

214 They use the same mayonnaise on their hair. Bring out the Hellman's and bring out your Bitch.

Posted by: --- at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (MMC8r)

215 That will be my sign put outside for tomorrow, "My Halloween costume is CDC employee Kaci Hickox. I'm wearing scrubs , a sense of entitlement and complete disregard for public safety."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (7kkQJ)

216 We must not have, an Ebola gap

Posted by: General Buck Turgidson at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (xKIE3)

217 >>She'll end up on Dancing With The Stars or a gig on MSDNC.

MSNBC medical consultant, definitely!
 Pair her up with Krystal Ball and watch the brain cells die!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (D/504)

218 Some more SCIENCE from our UN Ambassador... "Ebola thrives on fear," Ms Power said. She said it was well known what was needed to stop the outbreak but the world needed to "marshal the will" to do it. No Sammy, fear is very useful in preventing the spread of Ebola. Fear is what motivated the other African nations to ban travel from the effected countries and keep the epidemic from their people If there's anything ebola will thrive from, it's hubris and the cloud of smug coming from the Obola administration

Posted by: kbdabear at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (aTXUx)

219 198 "Now that is interesting. One wonders if they could use Reston the way they used cowpox as means of vaccinating against smallpox." I've thought that too. I've read a few things that say antibodies to one strain don't necessarily protect you from another, but I wonder if that's just theoretical and they just don't know enough to say that you are safe . Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 02:39 PM (BPMYx) ******* The sloppy copy or sloppy replication aspect of ebola suggests that--you should err on the side of caution. In fact--this current outbreak of the ebola virus they had to update the test for ebola because it had already changed enough to go undetected.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (RJMhd)

220 Nurse Snowflake claims quarantines are unconstitutional?  We were quarantining people for smallpox during the Revolutionary War.

Besides, I thought the Party of Science had evolved past the Constitution.

There are no timeless principles or historical lessons - just today's useful narratives.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (QKIQb)

221 I've thought that too. I've read a few things that say antibodies to one strain don't necessarily protect you from another, but I wonder if that's just theoretical and they just don't know enough to say that you are safe I volunteer Kaci as tribute! Since she obviously thinks she is immune.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (9DE7n)

222 It shocked me, honestly.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 30, 2014 02:33 PM (qFpRI)


Saw on legacy media news that comments on the story were overwhelmingly (presumably left and right) that KH is selfish and should voluntarily isolate.

Posted by: flounder at October 30, 2014 09:42 AM (sDapq)

223
Dracubola


Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Being of (Approximate) Knowledge at October 30, 2014 09:43 AM (XGqPs)

224 Hal, I only have access to the abstract but it just says "he second experiment employed no primary containment around open barred cages with Ebola virus infected NHPs" Do they specify which strain of Ebola they used in the experiment?

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:43 AM (BPMYx)

225 it had already changed enough to go undetected. Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 02:42 PM (RJMhd) Do you have a citation for that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:43 AM (Zu3d9)

226 Here little boy, let me rub the ebola off of you

Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at October 30, 2014 09:44 AM (xKIE3)

227
Eboaconstrictor

It'll crush you...from the inside out.

Posted by: Pumpkin Spiced Flavored Soothsayer, All Knowing Being of (Approximate) Knowledge at October 30, 2014 09:44 AM (XGqPs)

228 You just know she's one of those obnoxious bicyclists too.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 30, 2014 09:44 AM (oFCZn)

229

So far ebola only seems to infect short people. I've not seen anyone over 6 foot infected. *runs to storm cellar and locks door*

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 09:44 AM (sgrzZ)

230 Kaci Kickox is at Whole Foods licking the produce.

Posted by: --- at October 30, 2014 09:44 AM (MMC8r)

231 Miss me yet?

Posted by: James from Plains at October 30, 2014 09:45 AM (xKIE3)

232 >>>Koch Brothers false flag operation.---- Mary, thats a great song by David Crosby. Thanks for the blast from the past.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:45 AM (2Aj5D)

233 >>>Koch Brothers false flag operation.---- Mary, thats a great song by David Crosby. Thanks for the blast from the past.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:45 AM (2Aj5D)

234 Quick! Close the windows! The bad air is coming.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 02:32 PM (Zu3d9)

 

 

-------------------------------------

 

 

When I was a kid, my brother, and sister and I would make a vacation travel game of holding our  breaths when passing a cemetary.  We didn't want to breathe dead air.

Posted by: Soona at October 30, 2014 09:45 AM (7qiSs)

235 I sometimes wonder if a lot of this is "ebola tourism." Most of them are not over there long enough to be much use to anyone.

Posted by: The Progs at October 30, 2014 09:45 AM (iQIUe)

236 Okay......what's the over/under on how many hipsters show up wearing Ebola costumes tomorrow?

Posted by: eleven at October 30, 2014 09:45 AM (GXZgZ)

237 Nice, FS!

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:45 AM (BPMYx)

238 And HAL I just looked at your link.  Notice they did not use Ebola in their study.  In fact only Rift Valley and Hantavirus tend to be classified with Ebola as a Hemorrhagic. 

Rift Valley takes 2-6 days to incubate and only has a fatality rate of less than 1%.

Hantavirus takes 9-35 days to incubate and only has a fatality rate of 1 - 15%.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:45 AM (/Xhke)

239 Cowboys lose in OT, upsets fan.

http://tinyurl.com/pdt2yg4

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (P1WNR)

240 Nurse Bitch-it should be arrested for attempted manslaughter, attempted child abuse, and vagrancy. I will bet you can get her on closed circuit pissy enough to make a judge throw her in for "being in a place" and contempt. Then bag her, throw her and her White House Connected Lawyer in quarantine and let them spit on each other for 3.5 weeks.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (vmltA)

241 Crypto Koch.

Posted by: eleven at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (GXZgZ)

242 MSNBC medical consultant, definitely! Pair her up with Krystal Ball and watch the brain cells die! Posted by: Lizzy at October 30, 2014 02:42 PM Where we will she dangle the tampons?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (2Aj5D)

243 MSNBC medical consultant, definitely! Pair her up with Krystal Ball and watch the brain cells die! Posted by: Lizzy at October 30, 2014 02:42 PM Where we will she dangle the tampons?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (2Aj5D)

244 @42 Like a mosquito

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (eBNjM)

245 ot oh oh PALESTINIAN GOVERNMENT CALLS FOR WAR IN JERUSALEM CALLS FOR 'DAY OF RAGE' AGAINST ISRAEL ON FRIDAY AS FEARS OF INTIFADA GROW freebeacon

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (IXrOn)

246 Bookworm has an excellent post on Kaci: With Ebola, three strands in American culture - entitlement, accommodation, and Prius syndrome - all come together.

http://tinyurl.com/orq9tdq

Posted by: Lizzy at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (D/504)

247 Which suggests that human lung tissue does not have sites that favor attachment of the Ebola virus. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 02:36 PM (Zu3d9) Reston is not transmitted by air. All we can say is that some mutation (and I'm not sure if it's been identified which) prevents it from establishing an infection in humans. Now that is interesting. One wonders if they could use Reston the way they used cowpox as means of vaccinating against smallpox. Posted by: Grey Fox at October 30, 2014 02:36 PM (VI06N) It's plausible, but hard to say. Interspecies transmission is difficult to predict, and testing vaccines of any variety in humans has been a complicated matter, to say the least.

Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (hmPdt)

248 HOW you like those blankets now, pale face?

Posted by: Liawatha at October 30, 2014 09:46 AM (xKIE3)

249 I think it would be best for Kaci to admit that she was put up to this by the Ebola Czar if that is the case because I can imagine her neighbors are not too happy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (7kkQJ)

250 This public service announcement is all we really need.



http://tinyurl.com/nw47c57

Posted by: CDC at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (0FSuD)

251

Do you have a citation for that?

 

Reminds me of ordering a club sandwich (i.e. bacon) in a kosher restaurant, which was a very unfamiliar environment for me. 

 

Waiter said, "do you know where you *are*?"

 

 

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (JtwS4)

252 There are no timeless principles or historical lessons - just today's useful narratives.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 02:42 PM (QKIQb)


I found this to be a fascinating bit of the "old history repeats itself" theme.  Quarantine as a preventive control mechanism (not as a cure) has been used successfully for CENTURIES!  But our current crop of TOP.MEN is so much smarter than that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (o3MSL)

253

Go way. 'Bola-in'

 

/trying it out

Posted by: Bigby's Chopstick-Fail at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (3ZtZW)

254 Dracubola
No, I'm going as Ebolastein. Well, "steeen" actually. Figure I'll get a little Young Frankenstein vibe going.

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (JMCjf)

255 Ms. Hickox needs to be told very clearly that if anyone become sick because of her, her life is forfeit. 

Posted by: Sharkman at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (tRftc)

256 "No Sammy, fear is very useful in preventing the spread of Ebola. Fear is what motivated the other African nations to ban travel from the effected countries and keep the epidemic from their people

If there's anything ebola will thrive from, it's hubris and the cloud of smug coming from the Obola administration"

----

As Nassim Taleb tweeted the other day "You should give in to your natural instinct to panic.  Suckers are those who only panic last." 

He and his colleagues in risk analysis are ruthlessly calling out the HappyThink CDC - check out their response to Frieden's travel ban pablum:

http://tinyurl.com/l2dxkv3

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (QKIQb)

257 But trust the indignant Kos kiddies to declare that Ebola is harder to catch than HIV... Because they read that early October NPR piece about R0 rates, and got a good face load of science!

Posted by: wooga at October 30, 2014 09:47 AM (ZPaX+)

258 248 HOW you like those blankets now, pale face?

Posted by: Liawatha at October 30, 2014 02:46 PM (xKIE3)




lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 09:48 AM (lVPtV)

259 You just know she's one of those obnoxious bicyclists too. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 30, 2014 02:44 PM (oFCZn) hehe, yep The Latest Evidence that Bicyclists Are Self-Absorbed Monsters http://freebeacon.com/blog/the-latest-evidence-that-bicyclists-are-self-absorbed-monsters/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 30, 2014 09:48 AM (IXrOn)

260 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 02:45 PM (/Xhke) Yes, they did. 'The second experiment employed no primary containment around open barred cages with Ebola virus infected NHPs 0.3 meters from naïve NHPs. Viral antigen-specific ELISAs, qRT-PCR and TCID50 infectious assays were utilized to determine antibody levels and viral loads. No transmission of virus to neighbouring NHPs was observed suggesting limited containment protocols are sufficient for multi-viral CL4 experiments within one room. '

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:48 AM (Zu3d9)

261 Let me be clear: you can't catch Ebola on the bus because nobody rides on buses- you'd hit your head on tunnels! I'll be damned, though, if Im gonna get inside a bus with you filthy vermin...

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 30, 2014 09:48 AM (1X4qJ)

262 America's chickens have come home to roost...  Suck it whitey

Posted by: Reverend Wright at October 30, 2014 09:49 AM (xKIE3)

263 And I read too fast, Hanta is not even mentioned.  Geez.  And it would be nice if they replicated the conditions as actually encountered at Reston and in TX.  Instead of their artificial version.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:49 AM (/Xhke)

264 http://www.maliweb.net/contributions/lutte-contre-virus-ebola-au-mali-lurgence-du-moment-608462.html short version: the country of Mali is waiting tensely to find out if anyone else has contracted ebola after a grandmother left Mali, went all the way to the Guinea border to collect the orphaned children of dead from ebola parents and carried them back over 500 miles on buses and public transport through the capital Bamako and back to her family house which is in the #1 transport junction for Senegal/Mauritania/ Mali. The 3 year old girl died after arriving at the family home. Malians are stunned. Mauritania has closed the border. The grandmother lied about the reason the parents were dead, gave the sick girl pills to suppress the fever to cross the border back into Mali and didn't bother to mention any of this when she got to her house. Mali has ordered armed quarantine of all family members and has been trying to locate and identify all passengers on the transport this woman used, the girl had a nosebleed the whole way. They have been able to contact/isolate over 50 people, with more to find. As Mali waits day to day of the incubation period, it's terrible - thanks to ONE woman. No can explain whether she's crazy, in complete denial or wicked. She knew enough to lie.

Posted by: ben sur avant at October 30, 2014 09:49 AM (hA28+)

265 *runs to storm cellar and locks door* Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 02:44 PM It's well known that the Ravage lurks in storm cellars. Usually right behind you...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 30, 2014 09:49 AM (knoK7)

266 Who cares?

Posted by: Kaci Hickox at October 30, 2014 09:49 AM (wAQA5)

267 Someone should send Samantha Power Gavin de Beker's "The Gift of Fear."

Fear is often a survival instinct, and those who talk themselves out of fear open themselves up to be crime victims.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 30, 2014 09:49 AM (D/504)

268 Waiter said, "do you know where you *are*?" I would have said "So this isn't the club?"

Posted by: eleven at October 30, 2014 09:49 AM (GXZgZ)

269 "The sneezes are coming from *inside* the house!!"

Posted by: Bigby's Chopstick-Fail at October 30, 2014 09:50 AM (3ZtZW)

270 Kaci Hickox is another, in a long line of liberal assholes.

Posted by: madamex at October 30, 2014 09:50 AM (1zsKV)

271 Do you have a citation for that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 02:43 PM (Zu3d9)


It was in the Ebola Wars article.


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/27/ebola-wars

Posted by: flounder at October 30, 2014 09:50 AM (sDapq)

272 Actually, Dracubola is a good idea. I could tell people they'd find me in a "coffin"!

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 09:50 AM (JMCjf)

273 269 "The sneezes are coming from *inside* the house!!" Posted by: Bigby's Chopstick-Fail at October 30, 2014 02:50 PM (3ZtZW Who is 12" pianist?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, let's bungle in the jungle at October 30, 2014 09:50 AM (2Aj5D)

274 I love this Kaci girl!

Posted by: Jenny McCarthy at October 30, 2014 09:51 AM (EQcfE)

275 But again, what strain of Ebola was used for that experiment?

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:51 AM (BPMYx)

276 As Mali waits day to day of the incubation period, it's terrible - thanks to ONE woman. No can explain whether she's crazy, in complete denial or wicked. She knew enough to lie. That's a wicked pissah!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at October 30, 2014 09:51 AM (9DE7n)

277 If you liked the one about 'shovel ready jobs', let me tell you about Ebola not being contagious

Posted by: Shecky Soetoro at October 30, 2014 09:51 AM (xKIE3)

278 It's well known that the Ravage lurks in storm cellars. Usually right behind you...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 30, 2014 02:49 PM (knoK7)

 

 

Sooo, that growling is NOT my dog?

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 09:51 AM (sgrzZ)

279 Note.... some of us have been talking about this EXACT issue since Ebola first got to the US. And its very strange, that an IT guy seems to know more about disease, then the people who run the F'n CDC and Health Dept.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 30, 2014 09:52 AM (f0pWu)

280 : ben sur avant Oh, dear lord.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 09:52 AM (BPMYx)

281 One of the CDC reassuring points is "people with Ebola usually only infect 1 or 2 new victims" Of course they did not mention that this is based on West Africa and probably historical rural outbreaks where care was only given by 1 or 2 family members and if you are too sick to walk a good long ways you stay home. They wouldn't want to speculate on how much transmission could increase with different interaction habits we have in the U.S.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 30, 2014 09:52 AM (dkExz)

282 Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 02:46 PM (hmPdt) That airborne study did not specify which strain of Ebola was used, so I will withhold judgement until I can read the entire thing. And I don't even think you can say that it was a mutation that prevented infection. For all we know, the humans were exposed to dead or attenuated virus, or enough of the protein to develop antibodies.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 30, 2014 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)

283 278 It's well known that the Ravage lurks in storm cellars. Usually right behind you...Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 30, 2014 02:49 PM (knoK7)Sooo, that growling is NOT my dog? Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 02:51 PM (sgrzZ) /says nothing

Posted by: The Gru, in the Cellar at October 30, 2014 09:52 AM (f0pWu)

284 I think that Ebola Wars article should be linked every time there is an Ebola related post.  It is a fascinating and informative read.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:53 AM (/Xhke)

285 It's not airborne-airborne

Posted by: Whoopi at October 30, 2014 09:53 AM (xKIE3)

286 it still is completely unclear which reservoir species -- or species plural -- Ebola lives in when it's not infecting humans. It's not horses, is it? Asking for a friend

Posted by: Andrew Mendoza, trying to make horsemanbaby at October 30, 2014 09:53 AM (ZPaX+)

287 Also, I'd like to think I'm going to heaven because I didn't strangle any Lefty for suggesting that the quarantine was Big Government and we should be against it.  Ugh.

I'll science your face, Lefties.

Posted by: Shoot Me at October 30, 2014 09:53 AM (EQcfE)

288 #ebolaischickenshit That oughta get it done.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2014 09:53 AM (g1DWB)

289 Hal, I only have access to the abstract but it just says "he second experiment employed no primary containment around open barred cages with Ebola virus infected NHPs" Do they specify which strain of Ebola they used in the experiment? Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 02:43 PM (BPMYx) The experiment used the Zaire strain. So, while it's incorrect for me to say that follow-up experiments showed that Reston doesn't transmit by air, it remains to be said that there's no evidence that the strain in the current outbreak transmits by air.

Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 09:54 AM (hmPdt)

290 Smack down this nursey bitch before she taints us all!
FYI - During the Exotic Newcastle Disease outbreak (affects the poultry industry) in Calif circa 2003, many private citizen's pet-fucking-PARROTS were SLAUGHTERED needlessly to "protect" the poultry industry...
( Listening, Tango9? )
"The 2002-03 END outbreak, originally confirmed in backyard poultry (READ: ILLEGAL COCK-FIGHTING BIRDS) in Southern California, spread to commercial poultry operations in California and backyard poultry in Arizona, Nevada and Texas.  The Governor of California declared a State of Emergency, the Secretary of the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) declared an Extraordinary Emergency, and local emergencies were declared in San Diego, Riverside, Los Angeles, and San Bernardino Counties.  A USDA and the California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA) Task Force was formed that involved over 7,000 individuals rotating in and out over the course of the outbreak."

http://tinyurl.com/mq7nftx

Posted by: BCUZ thanks bye, ok? at October 30, 2014 09:54 AM (ucB75)

291 Posted by: Romeo13 at October 30, 2014 02:52 PM (f0pWu)

That's because the IT guy actually knows how to do something besides suck on the Civil Service tit!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 30, 2014 09:54 AM (o3MSL)

292 Here's a reference to how fast ebola mutates in The New Yorker --Ebola Wars--article. I read a better discussion of it somewhere--probably Science magazine--but can I find that right now? Nope. Anyways here is the reference to that phenomena that I can find: By the time the virus reached Sierra Leone, travelling in the bodies of the women who had attended the funeral of the faith healer, it had become two genetically distinct swarms. Both lineages of the virus moved from the funeral into Sierra Leone. Already, some of the mutations were making Ebola less visible to the tests for it.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 09:54 AM (RJMhd)

293 While we argue semantics and split legal hairs, Ebola ain't giving a care and is killing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 09:54 AM (/Xhke)

294 283 278 It's well known that the Ravage lurks in storm cellars. Usually right behind you...Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 30, 2014


Just don't drink all of me.

Posted by: Hidden Moonshine in basement at October 30, 2014 09:55 AM (0FSuD)

295 I think my costume tomorrow is gonna be a bowl'a soup.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 30, 2014 09:55 AM (uuQNk)

296 This is what the CDC says about droplets now:

http://1.usa.gov/1tmKBbx

Shameful.

Posted by: bkeyser at October 30, 2014 09:55 AM (OsxDX)

297 Ebola Schmebola

Posted by: CDC at October 30, 2014 09:55 AM (GXZgZ)

298 "Come at me, 'Bola!"

Posted by: Bigby's Chopstick-Fail at October 30, 2014 09:56 AM (3ZtZW)

299

We understand every aspect of this disease, which we identified a mere 40 years ago and which has mostly cropped up in remote African villages.

 

We know the origin, the reservoir species, its transmission vectors, and the specific ways it replicates, mutates, and kills you.

 

We got this.  Go have a sammich.

Posted by: Your Betters at October 30, 2014 09:56 AM (JtwS4)

300 Oh good.  Dr. Sheppy "Don't Panic!" Smith is on to smugly remind us again we have nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 09:56 AM (lVPtV)

301 They measure the droplets in the air that kill folks in Chicago in caliber.

Posted by: Roy at October 30, 2014 09:56 AM (VndSC)

302 230 Kaci Kickox is at Whole Foods licking the produce.   Whole Foods? Yuck.  Rachel Maddow said once the owner is a libertarian or something gross like that.  My boyfriend and I bicycle to a suatanianbale local farmer's co-op, I'll have you know. 

Posted by: Kaci Hickox at October 30, 2014 09:56 AM (OD2ni)

303 They wouldn't want to speculate on how much transmission could increase with different interaction habits we have in the U.S.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 30, 2014 02:52 PM (dkExz)


Unknown unknowns are such an outmoded concept!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 30, 2014 09:57 AM (o3MSL)

304 Free Beacon @FreeBeacon Michael Jordan on Obama: "I'm just saying he's a shitty golfer." http://goo.gl/NhpB30

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 30, 2014 09:57 AM (ZPrif)

305 "It's not horses, is it? Asking for a friend"

At least some strains have been found in bats, and they're prime candidates in others.  The doctors walking back the history of the Guinea strain think it came from a fruit bat.

http://tinyurl.com/lzdgqry

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 09:57 AM (QKIQb)

306 I think my costume tomorrow is gonna be a bowl'a soup.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 30, 2014 02:55 PM (uuQNk)




SOUP!  There it is! 


SOUP!  There it is!



Posted by: EC at October 30, 2014 09:57 AM (GQ8sn)

307 295 I think my costume tomorrow is gonna be a bowl'a soup.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 30, 2014 02:55 PM (uuQNk)




Go as a fruit bat, with creepy little things attached to you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 30, 2014 09:57 AM (lVPtV)

308

Consider Ebola survival to have a "Rule of 50's":

50 seconds in viricidal killer

50 minutes in fresh air exposed to UV without snot/etc. protecting it

50 hours in snot/mucus/blood in fresh air exposed to UV

50 days in perfect circumstances such as dried snot et all not exposed to chemicals/UV/etc; encapsulated tissues (your nuts), etc.

TOP. MEN.

Posted by: Some Dude at October 30, 2014 09:58 AM (j1tga)

309 I sometimes wonder if a lot of this is "ebola tourism." Most of them are not over there long enough to be much use to anyone. Posted by: The Progs at October 30, 2014 02:45 PM (iQIUe) They are busy punching their "humanitarian" and "kind, caring prog" tickets.

Posted by: rd at October 30, 2014 09:58 AM (J7NUM)

310 Just don't drink all of me. Posted by: Hidden Moonshine in basement at October 30, 2014 02:55 PM *Hic!*

Posted by: The Ravage at October 30, 2014 09:58 AM (knoK7)

311 Some Dude.... That remark was very snotty.

Posted by: CDC at October 30, 2014 09:59 AM (GXZgZ)

312

>>>Posted by: Hidden Moonshine in basement

 

Getting a Cabin In The Woods vibe now

Posted by: Bigby's Chopstick-Fail at October 30, 2014 09:59 AM (3ZtZW)

313 Michael Jordan on Obama: "I'm just saying he's a shitty golfer." http://goo.gl/NhpB30

Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 30, 2014 02:57 PM (ZPrif)

 

 

Well yea, Reggie is alway playing hide the putter with me.

Posted by: B.H.O at October 30, 2014 09:59 AM (sgrzZ)

314 Michael Jordan on Obama: "I'm just saying he's a shitty golfer." That's an auditing.

Posted by: IRS at October 30, 2014 09:59 AM (ColVC)

315

But... but I need to drive a shuttle for the DNC ground game next Tuesday.

Posted by: Kaci Hickox at October 30, 2014 10:00 AM (wAQA5)

316 Speaking of costumes, mine has left Chicago but has not been checked in at Jackson USPS.  Boots, I think Ebola-chan has stolen them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 10:00 AM (/Xhke)

317

>>>Kaci Kickox is at Whole Foods licking the produce.

 

Ahem. "Tonguing the bananas"

Posted by: Bigby's Chopstick-Fail at October 30, 2014 10:00 AM (3ZtZW)

318 Nood up.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 30, 2014 10:00 AM (knoK7)

319 But first you will blow me!

Posted by: Ebola at October 30, 2014 10:00 AM (JMCjf)

320 "I'm just saying he's a shitty golfer." In many ways this is the story of Obama.

Posted by: eleven at October 30, 2014 10:01 AM (GXZgZ)

321

Posted by: The Ravage at October 30, 2014 02:58 PM (knoK7)

 

Great drunk ass ravage. You deal with the hangovers.

Posted by: wrg500 at October 30, 2014 10:01 AM (sgrzZ)

322 Why Why is Shep on Fox?  Isn't there a cable news show in MS he could anchor all day.


Go back to MS.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 30, 2014 10:01 AM (0FSuD)

323 Chickenshits, all scared of a little African virus...

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 30, 2014 10:01 AM (1X4qJ)

324 Veterinarian called into the Chris Plante show this AM and noted that if he wanted to impost a completely asymptomatic equine from Africa (excluding Morocco for some reason), the USDA would impose a mandatory 60 day quarantine at an approved USDA facility. Typical liberals, safeguarding the animals is more important than safeguarding the humans. Posted by: Hrothgar at October 30, 2014 02:22 PM (o3MSL) I posted about the above a month ago when Duncan was first diagnosed. You cannot import a horse into the USA from anywhere outside of Canada or Mexico without it going into quarantine. In the case mentioned above, many middle Eastern and southern European countries have an endemic disease called Piroplasmosis that we do not have here in the USA. In order to import a horse from one of those countries(South America is also included on that list) the horse must be tested first in the country of origin and be pronounced free of disease. Then, when it arrives here either at JFK, Miami, or LA, it goes immediately into a USDA quarantine facility that is located within the airport complex. Various length of quarantine is applied via where the horse originated from. Some are seven days, some are almost three weeks. During quarantine, the horse is tested again. If it tests positive here (USDA tests are more sophisticated than some of the testing countries, if you are importing, you need to know the quality of the testing on the other side), you have a choice of EUTHANIZING the horse or paying to ship it back. It will not be released AND you will not be permitted to visit the horse in quarantine as it is possible that you could transmit the equine disease in question back to your barn. When the World Equestrian Games were held in Lexington, KY in 2010, it was decided that the Greater Cincinnati airport would be the fly in point for horses and a huge, temporary quarantine barn was built at the airport. Highly secure, both for safety and for biohazard. The last thing the Thoroughbred industry in KY wanted was an outbreak of some exotic, endemic disease from overseas in it's equine population. No one questioned this because it is standard operating proceedure and has been for decades. Here in the USA, you can't legally transport livestock or equines across state lines without a Coggins cert.(horse has tested negative for Equine Infectious Anemia) and a health certificate demonstrating that a vet has seen the horse in the last 30 days, certifies it free of disease, and has taken it's temp. Some states require an import permit(Illinois and I think Florida, obtained directly from the state once you prove you have the required testing and paperwork). There is absolultely NO scientific reason not to quarantine people returning from Africa. NONE.

Posted by: Jen at October 30, 2014 10:01 AM (2dbjH)

325 "The experiment used the Zaire strain. So, while it's incorrect for me to say that follow-up experiments showed that Reston doesn't transmit by air, it remains to be said that there's no evidence that the strain in the current outbreak transmits by air." Ok, then that's useless information. We already knew that the Zaire strain didn't transmit by air. The question is if the Reston strain transmits by air, which by all evidence, it does. The reason this is important is because this new strain is not Ebola Zaire, it is a new strain. If Reston transmits by air, there is a good chance that other strains also transmit by air. This particular strain does seem to attack the lungs more than other strains. Both Phan and Vinson were infected while working on Duncan's ventilator, for example. What appears to be the case is that it takes *longer* to get to the lungs than other organs.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 10:02 AM (BPMYx)

326 Posted by: Nip Sip at October 30, 2014 02:36 PM (0FSuD) I was actually really surprised that these folks didn't see it as an opportunity to pile on Chris Christie or cons in general for distrusting the CDC (and the Feds in general). With two exceptions, everyone in this group said that we tried the voluntary self-monitoring thing and it got us four (five counting Nurse Selfish Bitch) Ebola exposed medical professionals- who should all know better- being more concerned about going bowling or getting take-out and generally doing what they want than they were for the safety of the general public. The almost unanimous conclusion was that the CDC hasn't presented an alternative for how to handle people who disregard the protocols, and in lieu of that mandatory quarantines were completely acceptable.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at October 30, 2014 10:02 AM (qFpRI)

327 Posted by: Costanza Defense at October 30, 2014 02:57 PM (ZPrif) MJ sux too. But he'd be on my list. And Ahmad is in big trouble. If I know MJ, he said that just to eff up Ahmad with his GF.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 30, 2014 10:03 AM (h4gv0)

328 Dr. Spencer crapping his brains out in his NYC apartment toilet had absolutely NO effect on the wastewater distribution system or its rat population.

Posted by: CDC at October 30, 2014 10:03 AM (wAQA5)

329 107 Has anyone heard from the Duncan family? It seems odd that nobody has interviewed them. Are they alive? Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262 at October 30, 2014 02:25 PM (9Bdcz) I suspect their story is one of many that will be told.... after the election.

Posted by: Average Jen at October 30, 2014 10:04 AM (9S4/U)

330 "23 I thought AoSHQ was a designated Fuck Free Zone.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 30, 2014 02:12 PM (CzBeD)"



Well, it is Ace's site.  He would like to be mainstream enough that he can buy a mansion with an indoor pool, fill the pool with money like Scrooge McDuck and roll around naked in it with hookers or groupies.  Your use of that word makes that scenario less likely.


Some of us are so gifted in the use of profanity that we can compose an entire paragraph, including the use of subjunctive case, future pluperfect and a gerund using nothing but the word "fuck" but sadly that is an underappreciated talent.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at October 30, 2014 10:04 AM (PD6iL)

331 Well I did find this paragraph that should explain the rapid ability to mutate a little bit: The observed substitution rate is roughly twice as high within the 2014 outbreak as between outbreaks Mutations are also more frequently nonsynonymous during the outbreak. Similar findings have been seen previously and are consistent with expectations from incomplete purifying selection. Determining whether individual mutations are deleterious, or even adaptive, would require functional analysis; however, the rate of nonsynonymous mutations suggests that continued progression of this epidemic could afford an opportunity for viral adaptation, underscoring the need for rapid containment. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6202/1369.full Still trying to remember where I read a better--plain English--discussion of the need to update the test. I think Ace linked to the article--even. ugh.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 10:09 AM (RJMhd)

332 "53 And also meanwhile, Kaci Hickox really wants you to know all the f*cks she does not give about your "voluntary quarantine."



A pipe to the kneecaps would keep her still.

Posted by: EC at October 30, 2014 02:17 PM (GQ8sn)"



If the state police car that was following her were to accidentally run into her and break both her legs, she would go to a hospital and then it would be up to the judgement of the hospital administration whether or not they thought she should be kept in isolation.



Just sayin'.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at October 30, 2014 10:10 AM (PD6iL)

333 So they used Zaire in that study?  It was a worthless study then.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 30, 2014 10:10 AM (/Xhke)

334 Astronauts used to be quarantined after a space mission Somehow that did not discourage them from wanting to go to the Moon

Posted by: kbdabear at October 30, 2014 10:10 AM (aTXUx)

335 Before and after, kbdabear. Nasa has quarantine homes on base in Houston.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 10:12 AM (BPMYx)

336 Could we at least declare a Limited Kinetic Action Against Stupid Women? That would at least eliminate 95% of the Democratic Party, long as we consider the X chromosome in Democrat men an inconsequential accident of birth.

Posted by: jwpaine at October 30, 2014 10:13 AM (a3NCX)

337 "56 Doesn't Maine have an airport? Get the hose down a flaming 727 truck, refill the foam tank with bleach, hose the snowflake right off her bike into a ditch, repeat with her lawyers and the news crew, repeat until they STFU and comply. If she'd been set on fire when she first broke quarantine she'd be out and safely buried by now. And bonus round I could quit struggling to spell quarantine.

Posted by: DaveA at October 30, 2014 02:18 PM (DL2i+)"



I suspect that you are going to be spelling quarantine often enough that it will soon be as familiar to you as the word "the".

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at October 30, 2014 10:13 AM (PD6iL)

338 CDC:

1. "Ebola won't come here."

2. "Ebola won't spread here."

3. "Ebola won't become a major outbreak here."

4. "Ebola isn't spread by casual contact."

5. "Ebola can be spread by sneezing."

5. "RUN!!!!!"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 30, 2014 10:16 AM (SLea8)

339 The reason this is important is because this new strain is not Ebola Zaire, it is a new strain. If Reston transmits by air, there is a good chance that other strains also transmit by air. Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 03:02 PM (BPMYx) I'm not aware of anyone calling it anything other than Ebola-Zaire. It's a variant compared to the Mayinga strain, but the work characterizing those mutations is still ongoing. http://tinyurl.com/pt8hg8j http://tinyurl.com/qbyjrsa

Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 10:19 AM (hmPdt)

340 The Obama Administration told me that if I stay quiet until Tuesday, then I can party all I want!

Posted by: Your Friend Mr. Ebola! at October 30, 2014 10:25 AM (Mrl1e)

341 Hal, "In March 2014, the World Health Organization was notified of an outbreak of a communicable disease characterized by fever, severe diarrhea, vomiting, and a high fatality rate in Guinea. Virologic investigation identified Zaire ebolavirus (EBOV) as the causative agent. Full-length genome sequencing and phylogenetic analysis showed that EBOV from Guinea forms a separate clade in relationship to the known EBOV strains from the Democratic Republic of Congo and Gabon. Epidemiologic investigation linked the laboratory-confirmed cases with the presumed first fatality of the outbreak in December 2013. This study demonstrates the emergence of a new EBOV strain in Guinea"

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 10:25 AM (BPMYx)

342 "Kinda like polio or TB, huh?" More like hantavirus, except more lethal and slightly more difficult to avoid than mouse shit.

Posted by: nork at October 30, 2014 10:26 AM (8sVVc)

343 Probably the thing to worry about is does it mutate to a variant of ebola where more people do not spike the screening condition of a significant increase in their fever. That,-is what some of us are more realistically worried about.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 10:26 AM (RJMhd)

344 And... "Earlier, health officials had said the Guinea Ebola was a Zaire strain, different from the kind that has caused cases in other parts of Africa. The Democratic Republic of Congo used to be called Zaire. The new research analyzed blood samples from 20 patients in the current outbreak and found the strain was unique."

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 10:28 AM (BPMYx)

345 Hal, I'm not sure why you linked those studies, as neither abstract says anything about strain.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 10:31 AM (BPMYx)

346 Immediate openings! Now hiring! Travel to exotic places! Bedpan changers and asswipers. Be a hero! No experience necessary.

Posted by: Doctors Without Borders at October 30, 2014 10:33 AM (wAQA5)

347 "133 You can get better public health info on AOSHQ than from the CDC. Plus drink recipes, election coverage and clown alerts.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 02:30 PM (QKIQb)"



Speaking of drink recipes, does anybody have a recipe for sangria that they like?  I had some at a restaurant the other day and I have been trying to duplicate it without success.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at October 30, 2014 10:33 AM (PD6iL)

348 "The new research analyzed blood samples from 20 patients in the current outbreak and found the strain was unique."

Saw that awhile back.  Another thing Top Men haven't been taking into account.
We're seeing 5% become symptomatic after 21 days and other variability from "good old days" ebola - but Protocols.

Assumptions, wishful thinking, educated guesses and PC pieties are going to get a lot of people killed.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 30, 2014 10:36 AM (QKIQb)

349 Actually--I think a good case to could be made for the hypothesis that this particular outbreak of ebola is more contagious than any other--not because of those filthy Third Worlders-(-as some elitest in the media would like you to believe )but because--it has mutated to a variant that carries a significantly higher viral load.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 10:41 AM (RJMhd)

350 "This study demonstrates the emergence of a new EBOV strain in Guinea" Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 03:25 PM (BPMYx) Ah. It seems we've all been sloppy with our language here, myself included. Keep in mind, strain =/= species. There are five identified species of Ebola virus: Zaire, Tai Forest (or Ivory Coast, depending on nomenclature,) Reston, Bundibugyo, and Sudan. So it's correct to say it's a new strain of virus. That doesn't mean comparison to experiments using other strains of the Zaire virus aren't useful.

Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 10:43 AM (hmPdt)

351 So far we've appointed one contagion czar who has only managed to quarantine herself and an Ebola czar who doesn't know which end of the tongue depressor you hold, so why should we expect anything from these scurrying courtiers groveling for another badge from the king? As for Ms. Hickox, I'm sure she has made it a point to visit every buffet and salad bar she can reach, just to make sure we know we're not the boss of her.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 30, 2014 10:46 AM (XO6WW)

352 Ah. It seems we've all been sloppy with our language here, myself included. Keep in mind, strain =/= species. ***** Have to agree with you on that.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River Guide at October 30, 2014 10:46 AM (RJMhd)

353 Hal, I would say they are of limited use. This particular strain is behaving differently than other known strains. It seems to cause less hemorrhage, for example, and has a lower fatality rate. It also seems to attack the lungs more violently than previous strains at the last stages of the disease. My point is very simple. This disease is tricky, and we don't know everything we claim to know. There is no harm in erring on the side of caution. Making grand pronouncements about lack of infection risk is what caused two Dallas nurses, and probably many African doctors, to become infected.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 10:50 AM (BPMYx)

354 Dear Shephard Smith: Does Ebola lead to cannibalism?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 30, 2014 10:51 AM (XO6WW)

355 Kaci Hickox : Typhoid Mary meets Veruca Salt

Posted by: Daisy at October 30, 2014 10:52 AM (bYST5)

356 Hal, I would say they are of limited use. This particular strain is behaving differently than other known strains. Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 03:50 PM (BPMYx) I'm not well-versed in the specific clinical characteristics of the current outbreak strain, but Heinz Feldmann hasn't reached that conclusion yet. "Biologic characterization of various Zaire ebolaviruses, their case fatality rates, and their virulence in animal models have so far failed to provide convincing evidence of obvious differences in pathogenicity. Thus, it should be assumed that the new West African variant is not more virulent than previous Zaire ebolaviruses; a case fatality rate of about 70%, if confirmed, might even indicate lower virulence." http://tinyurl.com/nfezvwl I don't disagree with the "erring on the side of caution" idea, but we do ourselves no favors when we take that too far.

Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 11:10 AM (hmPdt)

357 So, the governor of Maine says he may cut a deal with the browless Hickox that she can ride a bike but not get within 3 feet of humans as she roams her kingdom. I am so hoping if she rides into town and tries to buy something the store owners slam doors in her face and have signs that she is not welcome. I'd love that.

So much for her begging to shake hands with reporters as she tempts fate! Here: "Shake my hand and you won't get ebola!" I guess she'll try the "pull my finger" trick next? Soon the CDC may determine that methane from humans could be a source with the droplets. So, from my expert readings, if she pulls this again maybe time in the brig or locked into her stupid house where she belongs (one also wonders why she is sleeping on her couch vs a bed. Maybe Wilber has the bed due to fears of ebola?).

I wish someone would pay me to stay home for 3 weeks and make sure I had everything I needed and was comfortable.

Oh, and, honey? Your bf, bless his heart...I hope he can cook, cause, not really a knock out to be in quarantine with when you get, uh, bored. Just sayin' (disclaimer: no offense to leprechans or those named Wilber reading this).

I was returning from spending $$ and Christmas shopping, singing loudly in car, and quite well, to Adele, when I saw our local "biohazard" ambulance next to me at an intersection. Now I was not expecting to see this nor wanted to see it as I was pretty much ebola-free thinking at that point and singing to an old boyfriend that I was setting fire to the rain. And then I spot it: a former EMS truck painted white with BIOHASARD and biohazard signs everywhere and, uh, the local sheriff's stickers. I am thinking the sheriff owns this one. And, I guess, should Hickoxen drive her bike down the coast we are ready!

Has Le Roi Facial Mole had his moment on camera today with some props? This time showing the "elbow greeting" his UN diplomat invented? I picked a really bad time to stop drinking...

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Detective of infectious disease czarina at October 30, 2014 11:13 AM (dMEBN)

358 From the most recent examinations of the virus: Microscopic examination of lung from fatal Ebola cases shows congestion, focal intra-alveolar oedema, and haemorrhage with no significant inflammation. Immunohistochemical staining shows viral antigens in alveolar macrophages, Aerosol transmission is extremely controversial but the finding of free viral particles in the alveoli and witin intra-alveolar macrophages warrants further study.

Posted by: Lauren at October 30, 2014 11:45 AM (BPMYx)

359 The Elite can't help it if you yokels don't know the difference between "airborne" and "aerosol," now, can they?


Posted by: Adjoran at October 30, 2014 11:52 AM (QIQ6j)

360 (BBC): "Ebola, which is only spread through close contact with the bodily fluids of a sick patient..." What? What "contact" with body fluids isn't "close"? It calls on the phone? Sends an email?

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at October 30, 2014 12:01 PM (uHUBu)

361 Apparently Liberia is experiencing a resurrection event (check the first graph in the Hickox/BBC article). Regrettably, there is no more information provided. I wanna know if we're talkin' zombies or End of Days here.

Posted by: Greg at October 30, 2014 12:09 PM (tUE98)

362 I don't disagree with the "erring on the side of caution" idea, but we do ourselves no favors when we take that too far. Posted by: Hal at October 30, 2014 04:10 PM (hmPdt) ******** I don't think that is happening. The CDC let a nurse who had contact with the index patient--Duncan-- hop on a plane after she reported a fever--even though that plane was delayed multiple times. That cannot be in anyway considered operating out of an abundance of caution.

Posted by: Obama Democrat Senate Candidate Outreach Advisor at October 30, 2014 12:31 PM (RJMhd)

363 CDC Ebola cannot be transmitted by smelling a woman's bicycle seat. Period.

Posted by: Buffalobob at October 30, 2014 05:21 PM (w+5ie)

364 They haven't been misrepresenting anything. The ebola virus is NOT airborne. Calling it airborne because you can get it from someone sneezing in your face is just like jumping off a ten story building and calling it "flying." It's totally not the same thing, even though it appears to be. The basic principle is this: if you touch the fluids of an infected person, and they break through your skin (you have a cut, you stick your fingers in your mouth, you rub your eye...) then you can get sick. If they spit in your eye, you can get sick. Airborne viruses and bacteria (like tuberculosis) are transmitted through simply breathing the air around the sick person.

Posted by: Picky at October 30, 2014 08:48 PM (Vm1Wy)

365 They haven't been misrepresenting anything. The ebola virus is NOT airborne. Calling it airborne because you can get it from someone sneezing in your face is just like jumping off a ten story building and calling it "flying." It's totally not the same thing, even though it appears to be. The basic principle is this: if you touch the fluids of an infected person, and they break through your skin (you have a cut, you stick your fingers in your mouth, you rub your eye...) then you can get sick. If they spit in your eye, you can get sick. Airborne viruses and bacteria (like tuberculosis) are transmitted through simply breathing the air around the sick person.

Posted by: Picky at October 30, 2014 08:48 PM (Vm1Wy)

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