October 30, 2009

CBS News: Obama's Just Kinda Making Stuff Up About Jobs "Saved or Created"
— Ace

Two big points I want to make:

First of all, that Florida day care center that claimed Spendulus money "saved or created" 129 jobs when in fact the money they got was simply used to give all existing employees raises?

That's not a "mistake."

When the WH demanded that those who received Spendulus money "report" back on how many jobs were "saved or created," they insisted upon a nonsensical rule: If a single dollar of Spendulus was spent on an employee's salary, whether that employee was a new employee or an old one, that gets counted as a job "saved or created." If he's a new employee, that job was created. If he's an existing employee, that job was saved.

For $1.

Yes, $1. Because the nonsensical rules the White House told these people to count "saved or created" jobs by simply stated: If any employee's salary is paid, in whole or in part (any part!), count that as a job "saved or created" by the spending.

And then report that number back to us.

Note that the White House's rules do not seek to discover which jobs really were "saved or created." To come to that conclusion, one would need a set of more rigorous rules -- which excluded some jobs from the "saved or created" category, rather than attempting to include them all under that rubric.

For example, you'd need a rule like: "If the funding pays more than 10% of an employee's salary, and the management feels the employee would not have been hired, or would have been fired, but for that spending, then this job should be counted as 'saved or created. "

They didn't do that. They didn't set a 10% threshold, or even a 1% threshold. A single dollar counts as saving or creating a job.

Further, they never asked if the employee would be out of a job but for that spending.

Because they didn't want to actually find out which jobs were saved or created. They just wanted as large a number as possible, even if it made no sense, and had nothing at all to do with jobs really affected by the spending.

So, if a factory gets $5000, and divides that, $50 a worker, among 100 workers, you know how many jobs were "saved or created" according to Obama?

100. Even though $5000 obviously doesn't cover a single part-time salary, let alone 100 full-time salaries.

If a factory gets $5000, and divides that, $1 a worker, among 5000 workers, Obama's rules say 5000 jobs were saved or created.

And note that in neither case does the employee have to be a new one. It could be a guy working there for 30 years, whom the company would never even consider firing. Per the rules, if he gets 50 bucks, or even a single dollar, his job was right there "saved" by Bonny Prince Barack.

So the Florida day-care center that gave themselves all a small raise didn't make a "mistake." They reported the numbers precisely as Obama -- who is signing their checks, after all -- dictated.

The problem is not a "mistake" in implementation. The problem is that rules are sham from the start, contrived to force an absurd conclusion.

The second point is this: At no point in all of American history has the metric ever been what jobs a president has "saved or created." The metric has always been the concrete, easier-to-determine number of how many jobs were lost and how many were gained. There has never before been a "saved" category, ever, and yes, all other presidents in an ailing economy would of course like to shift focus from the jobs lost to those they can claim were "saved."

It is only Obama -- special rules for special people! -- who has ever been so shameless as to attempt to shift the terms of debate to something so favorable to him (and so hard to determine), and it is only in Obama's case has the media been so compliant they went along with the charade.

The media should ask themselves why Bush never sought credit for what jobs he had supposedly "saved" -- surely he "saved" some, eh? He could not have gone 8 years with multiple tax cuts and multiple stimulus packages without ever once "saving" a job that would have otherwise have been lost -- and what their reaction would have been if Bush, rather than President Prissypants, had demanded they respect this brand-new, politically-helpful metric of "jobs saved."

Posted by: Ace at 07:16 AM | Comments (225)
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1 This joint is looking more and more like Hugo's Venezuela (without the hot latin women).

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 30, 2009 07:19 AM (aYS5W)

2 Obama has saved or created 10 million conservatives since inauguration day--more growth expected real soon.

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 30, 2009 07:20 AM (aYS5W)

3 Yea bring on the hot latina women.

Posted by: SOME ASSHOLE HAS MY PEN at October 30, 2009 07:21 AM (VmAoa)

4 If they've lost CBS, then everyone can see they are full of shit.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2009 07:21 AM (5aa4z)

5
Yesterday, a caller to the Howie Carr Show said his friend applied to and got a job with his local Post Office.

What's the job? A ONE-HOUR PER WEEK position. I shit you not. The Post Office branch hired fifty (50!) people @ 1hr/week.

Why?

To pad the newly-hired numbers and get the Stimulus $$, that's why.

Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at October 30, 2009 07:21 AM (z37MR)

6 The good news is that since the majority of the MSM is embracing this new "yardstick", any GOP President can use it in the future.

"Today, President Liz Cheney announced that she'd created or saved 2,000,000 jobs over the last two quarters".

Posted by: Techie at October 30, 2009 07:21 AM (cxW4X)

7 So with all these jobs that have been saved how long will it be before we have that glorious new tractor factory in Ukraine, comrade?

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 30, 2009 07:22 AM (OtQXp)

8 He still hasn't saved or created a job for me, despite my degree from the Harvard School of Child Prostitution, but I still loooooooooooooove My President!

Posted by: palin steel (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at October 30, 2009 07:23 AM (tcMQZ)

9 This isn't a bad administration making decisions we disagree with. It's a farce. How can anybody support these lying fools.

Posted by: Roy D Mercer at October 30, 2009 07:23 AM (kNiZP)

10
Seriously, we need a Congressional investigation to find if what that caller reported was accurate. Something like this could really hurt the Obama admin (and maybe prevent the Obama admin from hurting the taxpayers in the future with all these asinine programs).




Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at October 30, 2009 07:23 AM (z37MR)

11 Dear Gubmint,

If you give me 1 billion in stimulous money I will definitely create 200 jobs for my friends.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 07:23 AM (IqfKc)

12
CBS must be really pissed they aren't getting that sweet, sweet Porkulus caysh like GE is getting.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 30, 2009 07:24 AM (Haq+B)

13 This is exactly how the government is supposed to work in the college professor fairy-tail land.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 07:25 AM (IqfKc)

14 On the plus side there's talk of an increase in the chocolate ration .
Good times are just around the corner .

Posted by: akward davies at October 30, 2009 07:26 AM (wb68R)

15 Albany Oregon's biggest employer just shut down their paper mill this week.....the recession is over!!!!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 07:27 AM (IqfKc)

16 I gave 2 different bums a dollar last week, so you're welcome economy.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 30, 2009 07:27 AM (muUqs)

17 14 On the plus side there's talk of an increase in the chocolate ration .
Good times are just around the corner .

Posted by: akward davies at October 30, 2009 12:26 PM (wb68R)

As soon as the health care bill passes they're going to increase the Soylent Green ration too (something about an oversupply of raw materials).  What more can you ask for!?

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 30, 2009 07:28 AM (OtQXp)

18 On the plus side there's talk of an increase in the chocolate ration .
Good times are just around the corner .

Posted by: akward davies at October 30, 2009 12:26 PM (wb68R)

I'll trade half my ration for 3 razor blades and a half pack of Victory cigarettes.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2009 07:28 AM (5aa4z)

19 ummm. We have lost 3.5 million jobs since Obama took office.  Do we really need any more explanation?

Posted by: wHodat at October 30, 2009 07:29 AM (+sBB4)

20 Comrades, this CBS is nothing but counter-revolutionaries and racists. Comrade Chairman Obama has created and saved every job that ever was and will to come throughout the whole universe.

Posted by: TheQuietman at October 30, 2009 07:30 AM (1Jaio)

21 Ah, Barack, you lying c*cksucker. Keep f*cking that chicken.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 30, 2009 07:31 AM (necDd)

22 as ace points out, the most preposterous thing about all this is that the media is aiding and abetting the administration by buying into this whole "saved or created" nonsense, i for one applaud couric and cbs for finally stepping up to the plate to refute some of these ridiculous claims from obama and company, if only they would deconstruct the "growth in gdp/recession over" meme that's being promulgated.

Posted by: weewilly at October 30, 2009 07:31 AM (iBHcm)

23 I'll trade half my ration for 3 razor blades and a half pack of Victory cigarettes.

I need to score with chicks. What's the going rate on silk stockings?

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 30, 2009 07:31 AM (necDd)

24 21 Ah, Barack, you lying c*cksucker. Keep f*cking that chicken.

Uh, can lay off on that a bit?  I'm sore.

Posted by: The Chicken at October 30, 2009 07:33 AM (5aa4z)

25 Wow!  And to think that all along, I thought these "saved of created" stats were numbers they were just pulling out of their ass!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 30, 2009 07:33 AM (r1h5M)

26 Well, I am sure that this is a theological conundrum for the devoted.  If Obama told a lie, did he actually say it?  Or is it a lie that the people heard it?

That is interesting, good pickup, Ace.  Now we know where the saved or created claim comes from. 

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 30, 2009 07:33 AM (QxSug)

27 Does this little group of mobsters/commies in the WH ever tell the truth about anything? Not that I can see.

Posted by: mbruce at October 30, 2009 07:34 AM (t/GDA)

28 Et Tu Katie?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 30, 2009 07:34 AM (erIg9)

29 Albany Oregon's biggest employer just shut down their paper mill this week.....the recession is over!!!!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 12:27 PM (IqfKc)






What a coinky-dink. International paper just shut its mill down last week in Franklin, Virginia. They were the largest employer in the region for over 65 years and the closing cost 1,200 + jobs. The trickle down effect will cost countless other jobs to be lost too.

I love this economy ! When everybody is starving we can call it Fun-ger.


Posted by: Blazer at October 30, 2009 07:34 AM (+FzLa)

30
HAHAHAAAA!  Time is gonna fire 6% of their staff!  Merry Christmas, c*cksuckers!
  Couldn't happen to a shittier bunch of koolaid drinkers.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 30, 2009 07:34 AM (Haq+B)

31 I need to score with chicks. What's the going rate on silk stockings?

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 30, 2009 12:31 PM (necDd)

Unfortunately, the going rate is a half hour with your woman. Since you don't have one, you're kinda screwed. It's  a chicken and egg thing. Crazy, huh?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2009 07:35 AM (5aa4z)

32

Albany Oregon's biggest employer just shut down their paper mill this week.....the recession is over!!!!

Thousands of citizen trees created or saved!  Praise be Obama!

Posted by: VJay at October 30, 2009 07:35 AM (gQ+XA)

33 Yes, but what about the Bush Doctrine?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson-Charlie Gibson at October 30, 2009 07:35 AM (d+s7R)

34 Well, I am sure that this is a theological conundrum for the devoted. If Obama told a lie, did he actually say it? Or is it a lie that the people heard it? No no no, Comrade Chairman is incapable of flaw so fault must lie with listener. You Kulak.

Posted by: Commissar joncelli at October 30, 2009 07:35 AM (RD7QR)

35
It's  a chicken and egg thing.

Uh oh, not again...

Posted by: The Chicken at October 30, 2009 07:36 AM (Haq+B)

36 Watched the vid and was surprised at the candor.  CBS prolly got an angry and hysterical call afterwards.

Posted by: Seriously at October 30, 2009 07:37 AM (SSZkW)

37 Saved or Created,  I still can only shake my head at the balls it takes to have uttered that phrase in public, or the absolute certainty that the administration must have that the media is their bitch.

Either or.

Posted by: toby928 at October 30, 2009 07:37 AM (PD1tk)

38 These are the same sort of shenanigans Obama played with his campaign donation website.  They deliberately disabled (it is turned on by default in the program) the verification check to make sure contributors were Americans, and that each person was only donating once.  That willful blindness allowed Obama to rake in millions in illegal, small dollar foreign contributions.

Here, they are deliberately avoiding the most basic scrutiny, in an effort to generate fake, but politically helpful, data.

It's the same mindset behind the democrats' opposition to voter ID laws.  They WANT to cheat - "by any means necessary"

Posted by: wooga at October 30, 2009 07:37 AM (2p0e3)

39 Do all of my blowjobs count?

Posted by: Meagan McCain at October 30, 2009 07:38 AM (SSZkW)

40 25 Wow!  And to think that all along, I thought these "saved of created" stats were numbers they were just pulling out of their ass!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 30, 2009 12:33 PM (r1h5M)

Yeah, kinda restores your faith in humanity doesn't it.

NOT!

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 30, 2009 07:38 AM (OtQXp)

41 I can't wait for the toilet paper and bread lines. And sorry ladies, only 2 varieties of shoes.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 30, 2009 07:39 AM (muUqs)

42 We are currently reviewing whether CBS deserves to be called a news organization. Until our review is complete, all citizens are instructed to get their news from reliable sources such as Daily Kos.

Posted by: The White House at October 30, 2009 07:39 AM (zPuzF)

43 HAHAHAAAA!  Time is gonna fire 6% of their staff!  Merry Christmas, c*cksuckers!  Couldn't happen to a shittier bunch of koolaid drinkers.

We asked you kindly not to cancel your subscription. Meh. We'll merge with Newsweek and spiral off into oblivion.

Posted by: Time Magazine at October 30, 2009 07:40 AM (aVQo/)

44 23 I'll trade half my ration for 3 razor blades and a half pack of Victory cigarettes.

I need to score with chicks. What's the going rate on silk stockings?

Is that from "Moscow on the Hudson"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 07:40 AM (IqfKc)

45

CBS is starting to remind me of talk radio.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 30, 2009 07:40 AM (+FzLa)

46

The company where I work is planning layoffs for November.  All I have to say is-

Hello, perpetual unemployment!!!!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 30, 2009 07:41 AM (r1h5M)

47 30
HAHAHAAAA!  Time is gonna fire 6% of their staff!  Merry Christmas, c*cksuckers!
  Couldn't happen to a shittier bunch of koolaid drinkers.

I guess sales on "Obama the Magazine" didn't meet the projections.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 07:42 AM (IqfKc)

48 Uh, can lay off on that a bit?  I'm sore.

I'm available.

Posted by: The Duck at October 30, 2009 07:42 AM (wOGfT)

49 I knew the media would turn on Obama, but I had May 12 in the pool. (Oh well, maybe I'll have better luck with my basketball brackets.)

Posted by: FireHorse at October 30, 2009 07:42 AM (Vl5GH)

50 Apples.  Apples.  Wanna buy some apples?

Posted by: wHodat at October 30, 2009 07:42 AM (+sBB4)

51

I'm available.


Get lost, it's my time of year.

Posted by: The Turkey at October 30, 2009 07:43 AM (Haq+B)

52

Hatey Couric The News Nazi !!

Posted by: David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel at October 30, 2009 07:43 AM (+FzLa)

53 Do all of my blowjobs count?
Posted by: Meagan McCain at October 30, 2009 12:38 PM (SSZkW)

You did get a dollar for each, so yes.  Yes they do.


Posted by: CUS at October 30, 2009 07:44 AM (wOGfT)

54 When did Katie Curic get all racist n stuff.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 07:44 AM (IqfKc)

55
Apples.  Apples.  Wanna buy some apples?

Posted by: wHodat at October 30, 2009 12:42 PM (+sBB4)






Better yet, anybody wannna buy some jeans ?

Posted by: Charles Johnson at October 30, 2009 07:44 AM (+FzLa)

56

Saved, created, lost, Let me be perfectly clear, passed failures of the last 8 years, jobs, wee weed, I won, lipstick on a pig, I suck cock,  just a few precious quotes from the annointed one.

Posted by: Todd (the guy who is afraid of Michelle' big ass) at October 30, 2009 07:44 AM (LLOGQ)

57 I've saved millions of lives, yet you don't see me getting a Nobel Putz Prize.

Posted by: Swine Flu Vaccine at October 30, 2009 07:45 AM (GwPRU)

58 I've got what you're look for.

Posted by: Audubon Society Field Guide To Avian Adventure at October 30, 2009 07:45 AM (aVQo/)

59 For $1.

You know now I am beginning to understand a visit I got the other day.
A guy from the federal government showed up at my door and asked "Are you employed?"
I said: "Yes, thank God."
He shoved a dollar in my hand and ran.
I guess my job has been saved.

Posted by: Rocks at October 30, 2009 07:45 AM (Q1lie)

60 Every thing about our Precedent and his policies are a sham  I think I'll stop calling him "Teh Bamster" and start calling him "Teh Shamster". 

Posted by: runningrn at October 30, 2009 07:46 AM (qP2BK)

61

Wow. So The One is losing CBS, too.

Has anyone started a "Sycophants Lost" tote board?

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at October 30, 2009 07:46 AM (2QFX4)

62 57 I've saved millions of lives, yet you don't see me getting a Nobel Putz Prize.

Me too!!!

Posted by: unused assault rifle at October 30, 2009 07:46 AM (IqfKc)

63 If they sent every person on the planet $1.00, they could "save or create" a job for everybody in the world for only $6 billion.

Problem solved.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at October 30, 2009 07:47 AM (4s1it)

64

I'd hold the cheers for CBS.  They had little choice in this case.  The AP is running these stories, have said they would continue to do so, and other media outlets were already picking up on it.

Posted by: MDr at October 30, 2009 07:48 AM (ucq49)

65 Just CYA journalism.  Throw one semi-negative story into the state propaganda stream, then when the shit hits the fan CBS says look we reported on this years ago.  /yawn

Posted by: kefka at October 30, 2009 07:48 AM (n1uMU)

66 President "Smoke and Mirrors" Toonces is at it again.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 30, 2009 07:48 AM (554T5)

67 using ace's $1=1 job equation, the 787B porkulus bill could theoretically "create/save" 787B jobs! he could rename it the "earth full-employment act of 2009" and we could give some of those jobs to dogs/cats/polarbears/etc to make up for the lack of "human" job-recievers.

Posted by: weewilly at October 30, 2009 07:48 AM (iBHcm)

68

Isn't democracy still held hostage?  We need a daily count.

Posted by: Some Guy at October 30, 2009 07:48 AM (lPxkl)

69 Couldn't happen to a shittier bunch of koolaid drinkers.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 30, 2009 12:34 PM (Haq+B)

--Wow, even whoring has been hard-hit by the economic downturn!

Posted by: logprof at October 30, 2009 07:49 AM (A+6fk)

70 @38: they are deliberately avoiding the most basic scrutiny, in an effort to generate fake, but politically helpful, data.

It's the same mindset behind the democrats' opposition to voter ID laws.  They WANT to cheat - "by any means necessary"

Nailed it.  One wonders how long before Da Won's advisers put a poll on the WhiteHouse website asking "How do you feel about the economy?", with the only  choices being the following:
        l.  It's the bestest ever, absolutely evah!
       2.  It's the best economy in the past 50 years.
       3.  It's better than any we've had under any other president.

Posted by: sf at October 30, 2009 07:50 AM (xz5dP)

71 Isn't democracy still held hostage? We need a daily count. Yes, and in 24 hours Obama is going to start sending us fingers unless we meet his demands.

Posted by: joncelli at October 30, 2009 07:50 AM (RD7QR)

72 63 If they sent every person on the planet $1.00, they could "save or create" a job for everybody in the world for only $6 billion.

Problem solved.

For the money they spent they could have saved or created 133 jobs per every human on the planet, or 2,666 for every American.  I don't know about you guys, but I don't think I could work 2,666 jobs.

Posted by: unused assault rifle at October 30, 2009 07:51 AM (IqfKc)

73
It's about time for another guided video tour in search of my brain.

Posted by: Katie Couric's colon at October 30, 2009 07:52 AM (Oxen1)

74 FLASH: Katie Couric to be broadcasting her show from a camp in New Mexico.

Posted by: wHodat at October 30, 2009 07:52 AM (+sBB4)

75
Somebody should shove a camera up Katie's butt to find out where her loyalty went.


Posted by: Rahm Emmanuel at October 30, 2009 07:53 AM (+FzLa)

76 I wonder if CBS will be the worst person in the world tonight. Ah who am I kidding who cares what that douchebag says anyway.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 30, 2009 07:53 AM (SqAkN)

77 That was kinda neat and all but I'd almost be willing to bet that us guy morons would rather see a video of Megan the Fox gal or that babe that is on that red-eye show. At least I think that's the name of it. Whoa, smmmmokin.

Posted by: teej at October 30, 2009 07:54 AM (c459z)

78 I'd like to use a baseball analogy here.  When a relief pitcher comes in in the 8th or 9th inning and his team has a 10 run lead, the stats don't credit him with a "save".  There has to be a game that was losable before it counts as a save.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 07:54 AM (gNacq)

79

"Created 100's of errors"--errors my ass. 

"Half a million dollars to study social networking websites and 219k dollars to study the sex lives of college freshmen women."--I feel so much better now.  You know that's going to create more jobs for "researchers". 

You know, Chip Reidv has been getting increasingly testy with Gibbsy during press conferences.  (Not up to Jake Tapper standards, but still).  That one where he was asking Gibbs about high rolling donors getting access to high ranking Obama officials and using the WH bowling alley, he was visibly irritated.  It would be nice if the media would stop kissing The Shamster's ass and start doing their jobs. 

And yes, it is absolutely delicious that Time is firing 6% of their staff.  That rag couldn't be more deserving of going off the mortal coil to the propaganda factory in the sky.

Posted by: runningrn at October 30, 2009 07:54 AM (qP2BK)

80

OT - Eric Cartman out-gaga-ing Lady Gaga with Poker Face!

http://tinyurl.com/yzqk7cg

 

Posted by: JDW at October 30, 2009 07:54 AM (uw+0A)

81 I wish I could dig the comment when the "stimulus" was first passed in which I predicted this- that if so much as $1 dollar went to a project that employed people, they'd count them all as jobs "created or saved".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 30, 2009 07:54 AM (rf03a)

82 "I have just received a mean letter from Al Qaeda.  If we don't pass health care reform and cap and trade, they will explode a nuclear device over a large city near Lou Dobb's house."

Posted by: Obama at October 30, 2009 07:55 AM (+sBB4)

83 I'm glad I took math before this new fangled Democratic math came along?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 30, 2009 07:55 AM (TfW4T)

84

--Wow, even whoring has been hard-hit by the economic downturn!

Posted by: logprof at October 30, 2009 12:49 PM (A+6fk)

Yeah (wiping tear from eye).  It's so sad, we thought we were a recession proof industry.

Posted by: MSM Presstitutes at October 30, 2009 07:55 AM (qP2BK)

85 unused assault rifle, your a small small time punk

Posted by: A virgin W-88 at October 30, 2009 07:56 AM (xCBQ4)

86  >>If a single dollar of Spendulus was spent on an employee's salary, whether that employee was a new employee or an old one, that gets counted as a job "saved or created." If he's a new employee, that job was created. If he's an existing employee, that job was saved.

So in THAT case the spendulus was a huge waste of money

The Federal gov't could have simply given every employed American one dollar, and "saved or created' a number of jobs equal to the number of working Americans. 

This program would cost only a teensy fraction of the Spendulus actually cost. 

Hell, Uncle Sam wouldn't even have to write a single check. . .just offer everyone who had $1 worth of earnings in the last year a $1 tax credit.

 

Posted by: looking closely at October 30, 2009 07:56 AM (PwGfd)

87 Ok people we have to step up our propagandizing. The news outlets are hemorrhaging cash and viewers but we still have the actors. All hands on deck. The ending of Lost will feature The Island = Obama. The Office will feature an episode where Obama personally annoints the office with a new employee. Obama will guest host Saturday Night Live and lipsync the lyrics to Miley Cyrus' 'Party in the USA' in an extended hour long musical interlude. Obama will oversee the opneing coin toss and open the game with a special rugby punt for the New Orleans Saints [see what I did there Gibbs, heh, heh] on Monday Night Football. Oh, and then we'll ban meat on Tuesday. I am a super genius.

Posted by: Cass Sunstein at October 30, 2009 07:56 AM (aVQo/)

88 Oh, come on, that video is really from the Onion News Network. That can't possibly be real.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 30, 2009 07:56 AM (ZGhSv)

89 I already did the study on the sex lives of college freshman for free, so there is another scam from this administration.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 07:58 AM (IqfKc)

90 Katie is a biased whore.

Posted by: Anita Dunn at October 30, 2009 07:58 AM (5HlNp)

91 I feel the need to bring out this most excellent snarky comment from Mallamutt from a couple weeks ago.  It should be the standard reply to anyone who goes around claiming "saved or created" jobs.  heh
----------

I believe I have saved or created at least 10 jobs this morning alone.

I got up and took a crap. Therefore, I have created 1 job in the toilet paper manufacturing sector.

I had a bagel for breakfast. Therefore, I have saved 1 agricultural job and created a job at the bagel plant. Total so far... 3 jobs.

I had some coffee. The coffee came from Columbia, so I saved a job at the dock where somebody unloaded the coffee. Also, some one trucked the coffee from the dock to the store, so there is another job. Total so far..... 5 jobs.

I read the local newspaper. I subscribed to the newspaper from some guy at the local grocery store who was giving out gift cards to the store if I subscribed. I saved his job, plus saved the delivery persons job. Total jobs....... 7

The local kid came around and I paid him $15 to rake up the leaves in the front yard. I also supplied the lawn refuse bags. That 1 job created for the kid and 1 job saved at the place that makes the lawn refuse bags. Total jobs saved......... 9

And I have posted here, dutifully clicking on the ad banners. Thus, I can claim to have saved the job of Ace, Internet Blogger. Total for the morning.......... 10.

I can hardly wait to see how many more jobs I save or create this afternoon.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 16, 2009 01:32 PM

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 30, 2009 07:58 AM (ObTcs)

92 I saved or ated almost a pound of bacons this morning.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 30, 2009 07:58 AM (erIg9)

93 It will be interesting to see how the White House tries to punish CBS.  (Look how they came after Edmonds.com and The Chamber of Commerce). 

Posted by: runningrn at October 30, 2009 07:58 AM (qP2BK)

94 93 I saved or ated almost a pound of bacons this morning. Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 30, 2009 12:58 PM (erIg9) Ever hear of the ongoing Cholesterol crisis in this Country?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 30, 2009 07:59 AM (TfW4T)

95

CBS:  "a world class example of government obfuscation"

He lied.  They lie.  Liars all.

Posted by: Joe Wilson at October 30, 2009 08:00 AM (wAQA5)

96 So for $300,000,000 in one-dollar checks they could have saved or created enough jobs for everyone in the US, including the disabled, unemployed, elderly, and infants (technically anyway)?

Posted by: Beagle at October 30, 2009 08:00 AM (sOtz/)

97 Why do I have a mental image of President WhinyBitch raging at CBS in his underground bunker?

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 30, 2009 08:00 AM (necDd)

98 Do what ya want with the birds, just save the carcass for me, I don't mind sloppy 4ths.

Posted by: The Buzzard at October 30, 2009 08:01 AM (DIYmd)

99

"made no sense . . . an absurd conclusion."

Obamanomics.  You got a problem with that?

Posted by: Chicago Accountants' Union at October 30, 2009 08:03 AM (is97c)

100

Posted by: A virgin W-88 at October 30, 2009 12:56 PM (xCBQ4) -

Okay, help out an old guy who hasn't stayed current. W-88?

Posted by: teej at October 30, 2009 08:03 AM (c459z)

101 teej, Trident D-5 MIRV Warhead

Posted by: Jean at October 30, 2009 08:05 AM (xCBQ4)

102 Don't they know what happens to those who don't tow the party line there at CBS?

Posted by: Person Who Shot At Lou Dobb's House at October 30, 2009 08:05 AM (B5cM9)

103 Along the lines of our Whiney Shamster in Chief, Krauthammer puts the hammer down on Obama and how he is running out of "Blame Bush" cards.  http://tinyurl.com/ybryvo5

Posted by: runningrn at October 30, 2009 08:05 AM (qP2BK)

104

84 I'm glad I took math before this new fangled Democratic math came along?

I don't know... seems pretty easy now.  Just make up a bunch of gobble-de-gook and Voila!

Posted by: Isaac Newton at October 30, 2009 08:05 AM (wAQA5)

105 IIRC, the W-88 is a large 400mt+ thermonuclear warhead in the US inventory.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 30, 2009 08:06 AM (sOtz/)

106 They didn't tell me this when I was sent out to read my speech.  I'm confused now.  Hey, who took my Play-Dough stuff !??

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 30, 2009 08:06 AM (5HlNp)

107

Along the lines of our Whiney Shamster...

Would it be racist if I call him our Shiney Whamster instead?

OK, I ban myself!

 

Posted by: runningrn at October 30, 2009 08:06 AM (qP2BK)

108 102

Posted by: A virgin W-88 at October 30, 2009 12:56 PM (xCBQ4) -

Okay, help out an old guy who hasn't stayed current. W-88?

It is a nuclear warhead.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 08:06 AM (IqfKc)

109 @104 - Ouch, that'll leave a mark. Thanks Jean!

Posted by: teej at October 30, 2009 08:07 AM (c459z)

110 And of course by mt I meant kt.  Though a 475 megaton warhead would be cool as hell.  I'd call it the Buck Turgidson Special.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 30, 2009 08:08 AM (sOtz/)

111 Wow, someone in the press corp. just asked Gibbs how credible the saved or created job number was. Guess they are starting to wake up. Not a real tough question, but with these numbnuts, it is a start.

How would you feel about questioning your Messiah?

Posted by: MSM Douchebag at October 30, 2009 08:08 AM (necDd)

112 Ever hear of the ongoing Cholesterol crisis in this Country?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 30, 2009 12:59 PM (TfW4T)


Does it piss of liberals?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 30, 2009 08:09 AM (erIg9)

113

Has anyone else seen a day-care center with 129 employees? Admittedly, it's been a few years since the BackwardSon was in one, but I don't remember seeing more than a dozen employees at most.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 30, 2009 08:09 AM (ZGhSv)

114 Hey Meagan, I blew a bunch of libs too for Obama.  I've got the same question.

Posted by: Kathleen Parker at October 30, 2009 08:09 AM (5HlNp)

115 OK, I ban myself! - Don't do it runningrn! We'd miss ya.

Posted by: teej at October 30, 2009 08:09 AM (c459z)

116 cBS? So global warming has been reversed in Hell now?

Posted by: Mark at October 30, 2009 08:09 AM (OoClR)

117 Gibbs is an embarrassment.  How effin' smart is Owe-bama to hire such a dim "uh... uh... uh...." wit like him.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 30, 2009 08:09 AM (B5cM9)

118 I saved or created everybody I didn't murder.

Posted by: Chairman Mao at October 30, 2009 08:10 AM (DIYmd)

119 117

Has anyone else seen a day-care center with 129 employees? Admittedly, it's been a few years since the BackwardSon was in one, but I don't remember seeing more than a dozen employees at most.


Yeah it's called public school.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 08:10 AM (IqfKc)

120
Is Wall Street having a touch of reality?

Do they finally realize that Obama is pumping dollars into the economy on margin?


Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at October 30, 2009 08:10 AM (JY1gZ)

121 What do you mean we're supposed to fact-check White House reports? The WH says they double and triple-checked it already!

Posted by: Mainstream Media at October 30, 2009 08:11 AM (2dZ+6)

122
How would you feel about questioning your Messiah?

We need get some photoshopped red robes on Gibbsy.

Posted by: Jean at October 30, 2009 08:11 AM (xCBQ4)

123 That's what they're calling Elementary Schools these days, I guess.

Posted by: Techie at October 30, 2009 08:11 AM (cxW4X)

124 The White House doesn't check facts.  They APPROVE facts.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 08:13 AM (IqfKc)

125 MY EYES

Helen Thomas! LOOK AWAY!

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 30, 2009 08:13 AM (erIg9)

126

The best president since FDR!

Posted by: Bob Beckel at October 30, 2009 08:14 AM (wAQA5)

127

The W-88 has nice pop, but 400 MT?  That's like chixlub-wipe out the dinosaurs and all of north america size. 

I liked at the very end of that CBS report where they were starting in on a report about Hillary and the city of laWhore. 

Posted by: wws at October 30, 2009 08:14 AM (T1boi)

128 123 117

Has anyone else seen a day-care center with 129 employees? Admittedly, it's been a few years since the BackwardSon was in one, but I don't remember seeing more than a dozen employees at most.


Yeah it's called public school.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 01:10 PM (IqfKc)

A college with 5y journalism and communications majors?


Posted by: Jean at October 30, 2009 08:14 AM (xCBQ4)

129 Question: If someone is losing their job, but they get a $50 going away gift from their work, was that job created or saved?

Posted by: Mr. Crabington at October 30, 2009 08:14 AM (taGwa)

130 The most common lie the Administration makes is reversing 'benefits' with 'cost'.

If you spend a few million improving a road those construction worker jobs are not 'benefits', they are 'costs'. If the road improvements directly improve property values in the area of the road, those are the 'benefits'. The benefits must exceed the costs to justify the project. Obviously just repaving a road to nowhere would not result in any benefits to anyone (unless you consider ass-raping productive people a benefit).

Team Obama gets this ass-backwards - They routinely mislabel the 'costs' as 'benefits' and never attempt to show any real 'benefits' (nevermind that benefit/cost > 1.0) - because there are none.

Posted by: Druid at October 30, 2009 08:14 AM (Gct7d)

131
bottom down?

wow yeah, that some sound economic policy you got there, Obama

There is no such thing as Bottom-Up growth, you cocksucker, Obama.

Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at October 30, 2009 08:15 AM (x9okW)

132 Is Gibsy endorsing tickle down economics?  We are going to have to get old man Bush up here to slap him around.

Posted by: Jean at October 30, 2009 08:15 AM (xCBQ4)

133 The Iranians weren't honestly negotiating about their nuke program?  Say it's ain't so!

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 30, 2009 08:16 AM (B5cM9)

134 Lol, "report double and triple-checked"

And sanitized for your protection.


Posted by: ParisParamus at October 30, 2009 08:16 AM (ghbPL)

135 By this logic if a salesman sells one 500 dollar plazma TV he can say he sold 500 different products. Salesman of the year!!!!!

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 30, 2009 08:16 AM (SqAkN)

136

Yeah.  Hiya.  Nice ta see ya!  Ha ha ha ha ha.  Yeah.

OK.  Well.  Yeah.  I don't see what all the fuss is about; I mean...huh?  I mean, you guys are just now getting around to paying taxes is patriotic, Katie.

Spine of STEEL!

 

 

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 30, 2009 08:16 AM (yQtk0)

137 Did he actually say "bottom-down"?

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 30, 2009 08:16 AM (necDd)

138 More blabbering about "bottom down" economics

Did he really call it that???  If so that could be the death of Obamanomics.

Bottom Down:  when you hit rock bottom and keep digging.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 08:16 AM (IqfKc)

139
I don't think it's so much the msm finally waking up as it is them saying dude if you want us to cover for your ass we need something a little more believable or else Americans will see us for the complete douchebags we really are.

Posted by: bulwark at October 30, 2009 08:16 AM (jvrmc)

140 i can't see the vid because of websense- is CBS calling BS on teh Won?

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 30, 2009 08:17 AM (KOkrW)

141 Bonny Prince Barack

Diet coke almost came out my nose!

Posted by: Tami at October 30, 2009 08:17 AM (VuLos)

142 When I gave the POTUS a hummer, I saved millions upon millions of The One's sperm from flailing endlessly on a kleenex.

Posted by: Rocco Landesman at October 30, 2009 08:17 AM (fDWFP)

143 I only save or create jobs in the vice industries .
My local liquor and homegrown reefer salesmen . I'd support hookers and exotic entertainers too if the aforementioned ever left me with any excess cash .
Hey, they're Americans with families to support , as well .
I wish my wife understood these  patriotic choices that I make . Sadly , she tends to go on and on about groceries , mortgage , utility bills , blah , blah, blah . 

Posted by: akward davies at October 30, 2009 08:19 AM (wb68R)

144

Huh.  More waste of the public's money.  More lies.  How unexpected (/sarc).  Is there no law or moral rule these bastards do not trample under foot every damn day? 

How can you tell a Liberal is lying?  His lips are moving.  Or his fingers are typing.  Or he's writing a note.  Or he's sending up a smoke signal.  Etc...

I used to wonder why.  Why would they say so many things that were so obviously and insultingly untrue?  Then I was enlightened by this explanation:

Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.
-Theodore Dalrymple        ---Interview with Jamie Glazov; FrontPageMagazine.com; August 31, 2005

Posted by: Reactionary at October 30, 2009 08:19 AM (P+HSn)

145

The W-88 has nice pop, but 400 MT?  That's like chixlub-wipe out the dinosaurs and all of north america size. 

I liked at the very end of that CBS report where they were starting in on a report about Hillary and the city of laWhore. 

Posted by: wws at October 30, 2009 01:14 PM (T1boi)

I revised that to kilotons.  I'm pretty sure we don't have any megaton warheads these days.  My (brain lock) typo would make the W-88 nine times larger than the Soviet Tsar Bomba test.  Cool, but not very useful except for vaporizing hostile meteors in space or something.    


Posted by: Beagle at October 30, 2009 08:20 AM (sOtz/)

146 So far the only jobs I created this morning were in the sewage treatment business.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 08:21 AM (gNacq)

147

134 Question: If someone is losing their job, but they get a $50 going away gift from their work, was that job created or saved?

That's an excellent question.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 30, 2009 08:22 AM (IEJ4J)

148 Don't you think, that if you were to hire a spokesman for the friggin White House, that you'd be able to find someone that didn't say UH or UM more than you did?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 30, 2009 08:22 AM (erIg9)

149

I'm glad I took math before this new fangled Democratic math came along?

Why?  That shit's deader than Latin.  2+2=Unicorn is what the hip young gangsters running the show are pimpin now.

Posted by: VJay at October 30, 2009 08:23 AM (gQ+XA)

150

Yesterday, a caller to the Howie Carr Show

You mean, Jay Severin has competition in the Boston market?  Coulda fooled me.

 

Posted by: Truman North at October 30, 2009 08:23 AM (e8YaH)

151

13 This is exactly how the government is supposed to work in the college professor fairy-tail land.

Fairy-tail?  Bunk!

Posted by: Barney Frank at October 30, 2009 08:24 AM (e8YaH)

152 154

Oh lord - Gibbs just got asked - has the President read, or started to read the House Health Care bill. Gibss answer - I don't know.

You can not make this stuff up. Seriously.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 30, 2009 01:19 PM (V9SYy)


Do you have ANY idea how hard it is to carry your golf bag, AND a nearly 2000 page document around the links? DO YOU?


Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 30, 2009 08:24 AM (erIg9)

153 Gibbs is a seriously stupid man.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Odd Meteor at October 30, 2009 08:26 AM (erIg9)

154

You mean, Jay Severin has competition in the Boston market?  Coulda fooled me.

You being funny, right? Jay is okay, but Howie is 10x better.

Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at October 30, 2009 08:26 AM (x9okW)

155 Gibbs says "uh" even MORE frequently than President Genius.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 30, 2009 08:26 AM (B5cM9)

156 I'm pretty sure we don't have any megaton warheads these days.

The H-bombs were all scrapped years ago.  Some of the initiator mini-bombs were recycled into ordinary fission warheads.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 08:26 AM (gNacq)

157 Looks like yesterdays fraudulent GDP lies wore off, and that the saved or created shit isn't working so well. Dow down 222.


Posted by: kansas at October 30, 2009 08:28 AM (mka2b)

158 What lies before us and what lies behind us is nothing compared to what lies right to our f***ing faces.

Posted by: DrSteve at October 30, 2009 08:29 AM (t+B7A)

159

26 Well, I am sure that this is a theological conundrum for the devoted.  If Obama told a lie, did he actually say it?  Or is it a lie that the people heard it?
That is interesting, good pickup, Ace.  Now we know where the saved or created claim comes from.
 

You are seriously giving me a headache

Posted by: The Butcher at October 30, 2009 08:31 AM (8g9qq)

160 These aren't lies, they're "alternatively sourced truths".

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 08:32 AM (gNacq)

161 The good news is that since the majority of the MSM is embracing this new "yardstick", any GOP President can use it in the future.

Uh, no. Whatever gave you that idea? Maybe in a sane world, but not the one we live in. The first time the words "x number of jobs have been saved or created" comes out of the mouth of a Republican president's press secretary or spokesman, the MSM will be all over it like a school of starving piranha on a cow that has fallen into the Amazon River. And if some conservative pundit points out the obvious double-standard, they'll say, "Huh?"

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 30, 2009 08:32 AM (eR37w)

162

Posted by: kansas at October 30, 2009 01:28 PM (mka2b) -

And I thought I was the only kansas moron.

Posted by: teej at October 30, 2009 08:33 AM (c459z)

163

Hey, remember two weeks ago when the Dow reaching 10,000 was "psychologically significant"?

I wonder what 9700 means?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 30, 2009 08:34 AM (B+qrE)

164 wait till you start seeing companies like Macy go chapter 11.

Target is in trouble.  Their sales are way down.  Walking through a Target these days is like exploring an old west ghost town

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 08:34 AM (gNacq)

165 Target is in trouble.

I'm surprised Sears is still around.  Probably not for long.

Posted by: CUS at October 30, 2009 08:35 AM (wOGfT)

166 I wonder what 9700 means?

It means you're a virulent racist for even mentioning it.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 08:35 AM (gNacq)

167 Check that.  How about 9600?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 30, 2009 08:35 AM (B+qrE)

168 Wow, so Katie could very well have a black eye tomorrow?

And Chips family has probably just been abducted.

Posted by: MelodicMetal at October 30, 2009 08:35 AM (x4S2a)

169

Hey, remember two weeks ago when the Dow reaching 10,000 was "psychologically significant"?

I wonder what 9700 means?


Means we got psyched-out

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 08:36 AM (IqfKc)

170

91 Katie is a biased whore.

Posted by: Anita Dunn at October 30, 2009 12:58 PM (5HlNp)

Right you are, Anita.

Posted by: Rep. Grayson at October 30, 2009 08:36 AM (is97c)

171

I wonder what 9700 means?


It means people are still distrustful of Wall Street and we need more regulation to restore confidence in the markets.

Posted by: Tweet Krugman at October 30, 2009 08:36 AM (JY1gZ)

172

By this logic if a salesman sells one 500 dollar plazma TV he can say he sold 500 different products. Salesman of the year!!!!!

Moreover, he singlehandedly "created or saved" the jobs of every single one of the 10,000 people working for the companies that built, transported, or sold the TV.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 30, 2009 08:37 AM (rf03a)

173 No Christmas gift boxed sets of Obama speeches for her!

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 08:37 AM (gNacq)

174 re: 173  Hopefully a big chunk of the "MSM" will be dead by 2012.  Today's news about TIME's layoffs are hopeful in that regard.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 30, 2009 08:39 AM (B5cM9)

175 Remember those W-88's are the White House's "political" weapons; not the military's.  Single most frightening thing I have heard from the Obama administration - could have come verbatim from the Politburo to the Red Army.

Posted by: Jean at October 30, 2009 08:39 AM (xCBQ4)

176 Hoping to un-save/create a few ducks and geese in the am. Opening day

Posted by: teej at October 30, 2009 08:39 AM (c459z)

177

I wonder what 9700 means?

 

It means about 6500 in 2008 dollars.

Posted by: Barney Frank at October 30, 2009 08:40 AM (e8YaH)

178 /puppet!

Posted by: Truman North at October 30, 2009 08:41 AM (e8YaH)

179 We don't need nukes.  Its been scientifically proven that one unicorn can defeat 20 inbound warheads.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 08:41 AM (gNacq)

180 But what are they moving their cash into while they enjoy that drink - Euro's?

Posted by: Jean at October 30, 2009 08:42 AM (xCBQ4)

181

There is no such thing as Bottom-Up growth, you cocksucker, Obama.

Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at October 30, 2009 01:15 PM (x9okW)

Well, there is such a thing as bottom growth.

Posted by: Me-chelle Antoinette at October 30, 2009 08:42 AM (is97c)

182 That wasn't a realistic test and MDA probably faked it.  Unicorns are unproven.

Posted by: A typical CDI twit at October 30, 2009 08:43 AM (xCBQ4)

183 Heck for a measly $500,000 they can save my job and create a new one. (to take my place because I'm going to take the money and run)

Posted by: harleycowboy at October 30, 2009 08:43 AM (JKGfQ)

184 I already did the study on the sex lives of college freshman for free, so there is another scam from this administration.

I better peer review your data, but I'd rather start a new sample.  Let's do both.

Hello Stimulus Czar.  Need grant money stat.
Hello HHS.  Need condoms stat.
Hello Beer Czar.  You free this weekend?

Posted by: WTFCI at October 30, 2009 08:44 AM (GtYrq)

185

It means Wall Street traders are acting like tourist at a Vegas Blackjack table. Cashing out after a winning hand, grabbing a drink and waiting a few hours to see how much they have left to play again after the misses goes shopping.

Or maybe people are beginning notice that a block of dried Velveeta connected to a Commodore 64 that generates random policy options from the collected economic works of Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabe is controlling the economy.

Maybe.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 30, 2009 08:45 AM (B+qrE)

186 I would love to see a map of the options that are outstanding.

Posted by: A typical CDI twit at October 30, 2009 08:49 AM (xCBQ4)

187

Circa, I think you are vastly over-estimating the average intelligence of a Wall Street Trader.

Heh.  Touche'.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 30, 2009 08:50 AM (B+qrE)

188 Damn left the sock on...

Posted by: Jean at October 30, 2009 08:51 AM (xCBQ4)

189 So these special rules for a special President is like the Special Olympics or something right?

Posted by: CDR M at October 30, 2009 08:53 AM (8NiWI)

190

Please, someone wake me up and tell me it was all a dream.....

Posted by: Todd (the guy who is afraid of Michelle' big ass) at October 30, 2009 08:54 AM (LLOGQ)

191 You'll be glad to know that George Soros is starting a $50 million dollar campaign to drive enthusiasm for free markets from economics. Yay! So, apropos of nothing, here's: top Five Quips James Bond Should Say To Or About George Soros Come by and join in the fun.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 30, 2009 08:59 AM (ao5cQ)

192 The economy is going to suck until DC is purged of these thieves.  Serious investors are all terrified that they are going to be ripped off by the government.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 30, 2009 09:16 AM (IqfKc)

193 I guess the money I gave my son to wash and clean my car could count as a job created under the Obama stimulus...because of that tax "increase" we all got earlier this year (amounts to $32 more per month for me).

Posted by: sydney jane at October 30, 2009 09:18 AM (T8h7U)

194 If the US is a store, then the Obama/Pelosi/Reid government is a 400-lb escaped mental patient that has wandered in through an unlocked back door. In less than three minutes it has toppled shelves, scared away customers and taken a dump in front of the cash register.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at October 30, 2009 09:27 AM (yUybe)

195 Math is hard.

Posted by: Holly Flax at October 30, 2009 09:28 AM (A+6fk)

196

I'd hold the cheers for CBS.  They had little choice in this case.  The AP is running these stories, have said they would continue to do so, and other media outlets were already picking up on it.

I'm starting to wonder if this is partly attributable to the stupid little war against Fox News the White House tried waging.  That stunt not only sent more people to Fox, it actually compelled the other news organizations and left-wing media pundits to defend Fox on First Amendment grounds.  The Chicago street trash MO of the administration got put on display for the entire country to see, and now other news organizations are beginning to question just how competent Obama and his cronies are.

Nixon learned the hard way (twice) that you don't go to war with the media; it appears Obama needs to learn that lesson as well.

Posted by: David Axelrod's Combover at October 30, 2009 09:35 AM (/Pw+r)

197 You mean a politician democrat junior senator preznit Barack Hussein Obama is spinning fibs?  No waaaaay.

Posted by: Dumbstream Media at October 30, 2009 09:53 AM (xm1A1)

198

This isn't hard to figure out, to CBS's credit, they see were  the market is, moving to Fox light? 

I am betting so.

They're in the tank now, what is there to lose?

You heard it here at AoSHQ first.

Kemp

Posted by: Kemp at October 30, 2009 09:55 AM (2+9Yx)

199 That sex study was in full swing when I was a college freshman. I can't believe it isn't done yet!

Posted by: LAsue at October 30, 2009 09:56 AM (gIrH3)

200 >

This isn't hard to figure out, to CBS's credit, they see were  the market is, moving to Fox light? 

I am betting so.

They're in the tank now, what is there to lose?

You heard it here at AoSHQ first.

Kemp

 

 

let me be the 1st to disabuse you of that notion

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 30, 2009 10:00 AM (KOkrW)

201 It's "top up" economics. Money flows upwards to our betters in the government.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at October 30, 2009 10:24 AM (w41GQ)

202 Mallamutt,

One problem with your theory. So called journalist are now out on the open leftist now. I don't think they can move back to the center after selling their souls to the left.

Posted by: wrg at October 30, 2009 10:28 AM (7t+Ws)

203 166  I'm pretty sure we don't have any megaton warheads these days.

The H-bombs were all scrapped years ago.  Some of the initiator mini-bombs were recycled into ordinary fission warheads.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2009 01:26 PM (gNacq)

We still have H-bombs. Lots of them.  The really big ones (5-10 MT) have been retired, since they are not as useful as the modern smaller, lighter, and more accurate ones. One reason for the size of those old, really large weapons was the inaccuracy of delivery at the time.  A giant blast meant that you didn't have to get the bomb right on the target.

All the current sub-launched, silo-launched, and cruise missile nuclear warheads are thermonuclear. The yields range about 100-450 kT. There are still a few air-delivered weapons that yield up to a megaton or so. 

Come to think of it, a Trident missile with say, ten 400 kT warheads adds up to 4 megatons total. Distributing the smaller warheads actually causes a lot more destruction than a single 4 MT bomb.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at October 30, 2009 10:40 AM (w41GQ)

204

Stills: Say, can I have some of your purple berries?
Crosby: Yes, I've been eating them for six or seven weeks now,
haven't got sick once.
Stills: Probably keep us both alive.

Posted by: This time next year at October 30, 2009 11:09 AM (k6cRx)

205 160

Yesterday, a caller to the Howie Carr Show

You mean, Jay Severin has competition in the Boston market?  Coulda fooled me.

 

*****************

LOL!!!  Severino's on life support.  He's never there, and he's a pompous asshole.  His three-hour show is often two hours of him, then a third-hour re-run of the first hour.   (You're not supposed to notice, I guess, and given how predictable and boring he is, you won't)

  His station's management is desperately moving time slots and hosts around as if  they were playing mah-jong.  

 (Howie's station WRKO is also in terrible shape, but at least they've got him and Rush. WTTK's got Squat.  Jack.  Bupkis. Nada. Rien.  Rei. Nul. )

Posted by: Michelle McPhee at October 30, 2009 11:18 AM (k6cRx)

206 So Sting, what say you now.

Posted by: mot at October 30, 2009 11:30 AM (8Tn0o)

207 I love this economy ! When everybody is starving we can call it Fun-ger. Funger and Partyvation!

Posted by: George Orwell at October 30, 2009 11:43 AM (d9zq2)

208 Albany Oregon's biggest employer just shut down their paper mill this week.....the recession is over!!!!

I used to live in Albany, grew up there, actually.  That paper mill has operated for as long as I can remember.  I have friends around there who are looking for work, but can't find jobs.

Posted by: John C at October 30, 2009 11:43 AM (gN6Pi)

209 Heh. So does this mean CBS is not a legitimate "real" news source anymore?

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 30, 2009 12:18 PM (QECjC)

210

The account about how these "saved" and "created" jobs are calculated is absolutely true. Here in the Show Me state, public schools have been told that the state funds they've received as a matter of course are now considered spendulus money and school administrators have to sign forms affirming that yes, they saved and created jobs, too. Same amount of money received as usual except that the state now says what the funding is considered federal stimulus funds. When school districts complained that they were being forced to lie on the forms about saving and creating jobs, state officials hemmed and hawed and said that they're getting pressure from feds. If this is any indication of how things are going in the rest of the country all of the numbers are wildly exaggerated.

Posted by: martine at October 30, 2009 01:55 PM (dVhqO)

211 Must be serious if Couric takes time out from bashing Sarah Palin to mildly criticize His Most Wonderfulness the Nobel Prize Winner.

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RP

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Posted by: roman at October 30, 2009 02:24 PM (g2qqp)

213 We've saved or created jobs at a factory in Chicago that makes miniature models of factories.

Posted by: Number 2 at October 30, 2009 03:48 PM (HAPAi)

214 They think "saved or created" sounds better than "Please grade us on a curve."

But I think "Please grade us on a curve" sounds better.

Posted by: Noel at October 30, 2009 04:45 PM (Hh13R)

215 Chip Reid (CBS) is the guy who challenged Poopypants Gibbs about the totalitarian control of prezidential press conferences (seconded by Helen Thomas, of all people).

So he might be a bit more principled than most of the sycophants. Jake Tapper has also done his job to some degree.

Sigh.

Posted by: Beverly at October 30, 2009 06:06 PM (7Frbo)

216

Ace, do you have a source for that "1 dollar" guideline?  I have seen that nowhere else, and in the documentation I looked up (below), it seems that the jobs are pro-rated by the amount of recovery funding applied to the job.

http://tinyurl.com/ydbro6z

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