July 11, 2018

Byron York: Mueller Reveals In Court Filings That There's No Connection Between the Manafort Prosecution and Russian Collusion, and No Connection to Trump, Either
— Open Blogger

Shocker.

Manafort's defense moved that Mueller's team should not be permitted to bring up the claims of Russian collusion, noting that the jury would likely be anti-Trump and hence any such claims would be prejudicial.

Mueller responded he had no intention to introduce the subject. Hence -- the Manafort prosecution is unrelated to the Russian collusion the entire special counsel is predicated upon.

Mueller's response was two-fold. On the issue of collusion, the special counsel, in a motion filed July 6, flatly said, "The government does not intend to present at trial evidence or argument concerning collusion with the Russian government and, accordingly does not oppose the defendant's motion in that respect."

To those Trump opponents who had hoped Mueller would unveil evidence of Trump-Russia collusion involving Manafort, it was a sharp and stunning admission: there's no collusion in the case against Manafort.

The only connection to Trump Mueller's team plans to discuss isn't even a connection to Trump. Manafort applied for loans, misstating his income level and debts (Mueller alleges), and a banker hoping to curry favor with Trump approved them, despite his questions about Manafort's finances.

That's not a connection to Trump. That's a connection to someone who wanted a connection to Trump.

So this is what #TheResistance has.

Question: If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's outrageously perjurious IT guy this hard, instead of gifting him with get out of jail free immunity cards, what might he have disclosed about Hillary's and her lawyers' orders to him?

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1 First to declare I'm shocked that there's no there there.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 11, 2018 11:39 AM (XuYmQ)

2 nd?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 11:39 AM (so+oy)

3 And for this he's in solitary confinement?!!?!?!

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2018 11:39 AM (Z48ZB)

4 Still a political prisoner. Held in solitary confinement while Imran Awan walks free. I don't expect the President to free Manafort himself. But dammit, get Americans to defend your people, before you have no people left.

Posted by: trev006 at July 11, 2018 11:40 AM (hiZ2c)

5 So Mueller admits that his witch hunt is w/o basis. Why has he not been fired?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2018 11:40 AM (mpXpK)

6 So if Manafort was not involved in Russian collusion that didn't exist, why is Mueller prosecuting this at all? Oh, wait, that's right: he can go freewheeling all over the country side and charge anybody with anything. What a joke.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 11, 2018 11:40 AM (XuYmQ)

7 So, why does the never ending Mueller investigation keep going on? I don't think he'll stop until he's indicted every American for some crime.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 11, 2018 11:41 AM (gEvQ8)

8 So, Manafort gets the whole case thrown out? Wasn't Mueller given a mandate to investigate only Russian collusion?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 11:41 AM (so+oy)

9 Will this dampen any talking points?

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 11:41 AM (vDqXW)

10 This deserves a flaming skull as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Average Guy at July 11, 2018 11:41 AM (KqRop)

11 Wasn't Tony Podesta a business partner of Manafort in Ukraine?

Posted by: rd at July 11, 2018 11:41 AM (4dz1m)

12 Downstream corgis have been paged.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 11, 2018 11:42 AM (XuYmQ)

13 You've got to believe that many Americans are very angry about this. And some Indies and Dems "uncomfortable" with what they are seeing. This is such a farce. Such treason. Such a waste of taxes. So deeply anti-American. The Democrat Party needs to be destroyed. And these Bushie's and leftover establishment traitors need to be fired across the board. Yes, fire them all. I do not know how Trump keeps his cool on this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2018 11:42 AM (fceHP)

14 Question: If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's outrageously perjurious IT guy this hard, instead of gifting him with get out of jail free immunity cards, what might he have disclosed about Hillary's and her lawyers' orders to him? .............. Exactly why they didn't. That was a white wash from the get go... a faux investigation.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 11:42 AM (so+oy)

15 Let's just watch soccer.

Posted by: J. Sessions at July 11, 2018 11:43 AM (r9UYA)

16 Robert Mueller starring in :
I'm Gonna Get You Sucka!

Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 11, 2018 11:43 AM (x9tR0)

17 Where does Mueller's authority for prosecuting people that do not have anything to do with Trump's Russia collusion come from? Does he have this authority at all?

Posted by: DR.WTF? at July 11, 2018 11:43 AM (T71PA)

18 It's gonna be an entertaining day when PDT pardons all those who got railroaded by that prick Mueller and his goons.

Posted by: Chase at July 11, 2018 11:43 AM (RbV5J)

19 So, Manafort gets the whole case thrown out? Wasn't Mueller given a mandate to investigate only Russian collusion? Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 04:41 PM (so+oy ------------- "And any other crimes". blah, blah, blah... Neat nick soy-boy!

Posted by: rd at July 11, 2018 11:44 AM (4dz1m)

20 End this charade. End it now. Let the leftprogs (keep on with their 24/7/365) freakout. They freak. The American people win. Still not tired of Winning.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 11:44 AM (yUKyn)

21 And for this he's in solitary confinement?!!?!?! Posted by: LASue ............ No, he's in solitary confinement for witness tampering... a very big no no.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 11:44 AM (so+oy)

22 Shut. Mueller. Down.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at July 11, 2018 11:44 AM (RD7QR)

23 The presiding judge remarked that this case was pure intimidation to force evidence against the President. Didn't stop the case. Libs think Stasi rules will wotk out for them. They are MISTAKEN.

Posted by: trev006 at July 11, 2018 11:44 AM (hiZ2c)

24 So, Manafort gets the whole case thrown out? Wasn't Mueller given a mandate to investigate only Russian collusion? Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 04:41 PM (so+oy) Nah, he pretty much got a pass to do whatever the h3ll he wants to.

Posted by: Antisocialist at July 11, 2018 11:45 AM (9BwmK)

25 Question: If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's outrageously perjurious IT guy this hard, instead of gifting him with get out of jail free immunity cards, what might he have disclosed about Hillary's and her lawyers' orders to him? --- I think he may have disclosed a future hunting accident while flying a single engine airplane crash and having a bit of depression based suicide.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:45 AM (FOPyv)

26 Mueller has nothing ,yet he persists

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 11:45 AM (LiyEm)

27 #ButManafort

Posted by: Mega at July 11, 2018 11:45 AM (rv0Fo)

28 Posted by: rd at July 11, 2018 04:44 PM (4dz1m) You misspelled, "hash."

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 11, 2018 11:45 AM (XuYmQ)

29 Damn, I miss Stormy. But I get it...that was sooooo two weeks ago.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 11:45 AM (0tfLf)

30 Sorry, but this deserves a flaming skull. This is huge. The judge will dismiss the charges against Manafort in light of this crap.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 11:45 AM (ATVNj)

31 And this right here would in a sane world lead to meuller stepping down and any charges he filed being dropped. 


Unfortunately, we do not live in a sane world. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2018 11:45 AM (+Dllb)

32 Don't kill the job!

Posted by: tu3031 at July 11, 2018 11:46 AM (O5Q3r)

33 I'm assuming he's in solitary for his own protection. But who knows.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2018 11:46 AM (+lOpA)

34 Byron York: Mueller Reveals In Court Filings That There's No Connection Between the Manafort Prosecution and Russian Collusion, and No Connection to Trump, Either Mueller and his gang also issued Manafort 7 parking tickets, two speeding tickets and three tickets for going through stop signs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2018 11:46 AM (7jE3W)

35 Neat nick soy-boy! Posted by: rd a ............... I never pay attention to those.. but, yeah, that's a crazy one!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 11:46 AM (so+oy)

36 You just know they are all asking themselves how the devil someone like Trump could be so clean when the answer is pretty easy 1)  Trump paid for top-flight legal advice and followed it, because(2)  he was/is so high profile that lots of DA's and US Atty's salivated at the publicity they would get if they could nail him, and Trump knew that.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Package Special! Beer, Fireworks, Bactine, Bandages for $25.00 at The Outrage Outlet! at July 11, 2018 11:46 AM (0QYMt)

37 If Mueller tried to push the Russian collusion angle, he knew that via discovery he would have been forced to show that he has no case against anybody in the matter. By declining to proceed down that path, he is still free to rake in millions with the Witch hunt.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 11, 2018 11:46 AM (oivx6)

38 The mandate was broad.Something like "investigate Russian interference in the US election,collusion with the Trump campaign or ANY OTHER CRIME that might be found."

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 11:46 AM (LiyEm)

39 liberals love this new legal trick of "your income is itself laundered money which is therefore a crime and therefore laundered money" but as mccarthy pointed out, mueller's team over charged and under plead this whole thing. It's just wrong. step 1. "we charge you with 300,000 total consective years of super crimes against the government" step 2 "but we're offering you a plea deal of a $500 fine. that's not how the law is supposed to work.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:47 AM (FOPyv)

40 How long until the "Mueller is Working For Russia" headlines start?

Posted by: Mega at July 11, 2018 11:47 AM (rv0Fo)

41 So- Hillary's IT guy, Huma and all the people involved in illegal FBI activity are walking around with immunity, meanwhile Manafort is in solitary confinement for allegations?
There was a time we, and organizations lie the ACLU would call that unconstitutional political prosecution.
Is that the Democrats America?

I've finally come to the conclusion that Mueller and the people on his team like Weissman, are the worst, most treasonous, subversive scum this country has ever faced.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2018 11:47 AM (VpIIl)

42 "Oh, wait, that's right: he can go freewheeling all over the country side and charge anybody with anything."

Charge?  Oh yeah - the expense account!  That must be pretty sweet.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Package Special! Beer, Fireworks, Bactine, Bandages for $25.00 at The Outrage Outlet! at July 11, 2018 11:47 AM (0QYMt)

43 SQUIRREL!!!

Posted by: Bob Mueller at July 11, 2018 11:47 AM (IiR2y)

44 also, where's the statue of limitations? I read draw and strikes' thoughts on this and he seems to think that, you know, manafort has always been kind of a slime bag...

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:47 AM (FOPyv)

45 Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 11, 2018 04:45 PM (XuYmQ) Yeah. Nick, hash, I can't handle all this new stuff. Where's my floppy discs?!

Posted by: rd at July 11, 2018 11:47 AM (4dz1m)

46 All this does is prove how close the trump/Russia ties are and how deep the collusion goes! Impeach!!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 11, 2018 11:47 AM (wdmm9)

47 Don't we have a .... you know ... whole bureau for investigating domestic crimes? Why is Stasi Mueller doing their jobs?

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (vDqXW)

48 So, why does the never ending Mueller investigation keep going on? I don't think he'll stop until he's indicted every American for some crime.



Posted by: Old Blue at July 11, 2018 04:41 PM

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Well I did keep an illegal "assault weapon" in my house for 15 years when I lived in CT.  He can try and come after me for that but I did move away from the State and the SOL ran out quite some time ago.


But he can try. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (+Dllb)

49 I've long believed that Mueller is keeping the Russia investigation going not so much to bring down Trump, but to keep #The Resistance a reason to go on, well, "resisting." If he ended the investigation today and said flatly, "there was no collusion", the loud sound that you would hear would be the sound of 1,000,000 liberal heads exploding.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (y8Foj)

50 Unpaid Parking Tickets. Trump has to have unpaid parking tickets. That's how they'll get him, with parking tickets. Then he'll sing like a bird and we'll know who is really behind this Deplorable movement.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger, Lite Latte Lover at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (PeR6h)

51 No worries. We got "Cohen" now and can sprinkle in "Flynn" for flavor as needed. That should last at least a few months till November or till we get more victims i mean criminals.

Posted by: Executive MSNBC Ticker Producer at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (MTq02)

52 also, any luck we'll get to see rosensteins' super secret letter of authority that allows mueller to go after anyone who ever worked on, in, or near the trump campaign?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (FOPyv)

53 This is huge.

The judge will dismiss the charges against Manafort in light of this crap.
....

Yeah....maybe but...
Wasn't there a big deal about Mueller turning over the invetigation to SDNY and NY local prosecutors??

Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (x9tR0)

54 So when's Pop showing up?

Posted by: tu3031 at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (O5Q3r)

55 Question: If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's outrageously perjurious IT guy this hard, instead of gifting him with get out of jail free immunity cards, what might he have disclosed about Hillary's and her lawyers' orders to him? Chances are he'd of had to disclose some evidence buried at Ft Marcy Park.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (0tfLf)

56 What happened with the press conference about the Seth Rich killers? Two government guys, I heard.

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2018 11:48 AM (Z48ZB)

57 And on the subject of treason and coincidences I'm watching a ST: Voyager and said, "That guest alien sounds familiar" so I look the actor up at IMDB and it turns out he played the Executioner (as Morgan Sheppard) in "Lady Jane" in 1986.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2018 11:49 AM (Evws/)

58 So, the old John Doe persecutions from WI rear their ugly heads in Washington DC. Who'd a thunk? Fascists, these lefties are, all the way down.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 11, 2018 11:49 AM (7UW64)

59 It's gonna be an entertaining day when PDT pardons all those who got railroaded by that prick Mueller and his goons.


Posted by: Chase at July 11, 2018 04:43 PM

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My money is on Trump picking up his pardon pen right after the mid terms. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2018 11:49 AM (+Dllb)

60 Mueller has also charged Manafort with writing on a public school desk in 1971 in social studies class. Destruction of government property. Carries a penalty of 10 to 30.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2018 11:49 AM (7jE3W)

61 33 I'm assuming he's in solitary for his own protection.  But who knows. Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2018 04:46 PM (+lOpA) Your faith in government is touching. But solitary is very different from a private cell. You have to know the difference if you want anyone to take you seriously.

Posted by: trev006 at July 11, 2018 11:49 AM (hiZ2c)

62 Trump should announce he's is going to pardon Manafort, since it all has nothing to do with his campaign or presidency. FU Mueller.

Posted by: Jean at July 11, 2018 11:49 AM (MS0+a)

63 This makes the DOJ look like fookin' idiots. We have a member of the family that was hired by the DOJ about a year before Obama left office.. She is assigned to the USACE flood gate opening after Harvey that flooded the wealthiest corridor through Houston. She has nothing to say about these folks going after Trump.

Posted by: DanMan at July 11, 2018 11:49 AM (QMG5F)

64 also, mueller has introduced a new legal option for prosecutors of raiding lawyers offices and forbidding defendants from talking to witnesses.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:50 AM (FOPyv)

65 No ,the judge will not throw this out.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 11:50 AM (LiyEm)

66 >>I read draw and strikes' thoughts on this and he seems to think that, you know, manafort has always been kind of a slime bag... He has always been a slime bag but that doesn't excuse Mueller's tactics. Paul Sperry claimed last night that there was a FISA warrant taken out on Manafort both before and after the election just like Carter Page.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2018 11:50 AM (/tuJf)

67 29 Damn, I miss Stormy. But I get it...that was sooooo two weeks ago." I think CNN finally figured out that the Stormy stories were actually making Trump MORE popular with black & hispanic voters, which is why they cut them off so abruptly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 11:50 AM (k1TUh)

68 the old Cuck GOP is fine with this...this is fine...aren't we all guilty of something?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:50 AM (FOPyv)

69 Mueller and his gang also issued Manafort 7 parking tickets, two speeding tickets and three tickets for going through stop signs. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2018 04:46 PM (7jE3W) Everyone that voted for Trump or even agrees with him on anything is now in jeopardy. For anything at all. Watch yourselves.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at July 11, 2018 11:50 AM (T71PA)

70 They wont throw away Flynn's guilty plea either.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 11:50 AM (LiyEm)

71 If he ended the investigation today and said flatly, "there was no collusion", the loud sound that you would hear would be the sound of 1,000,000 liberal heads exploding.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 04:48 PM (y8Foj)



He wouldn't eat lunch in that town ever again, expense account or no.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Package Special! Beer, Fireworks, Bactine, Bandages for $25.00 at The Outrage Outlet! at July 11, 2018 11:50 AM (0QYMt)

72 Fascists, these lefties are, all the way down. Posted by: tcn in AK at July 11, 2018 04:49 PM (7UW64) --- When pressed, yes.

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 11:51 AM (vDqXW)

73 Is there a time that Mueller will have to move forward with Trump? A poop or get off the pot moment? I am not interested in Trump firing him, Rosenstein getting let go etc. I am talking about a real situation where he has to move forward or shut it down.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 11, 2018 11:51 AM (fYi9j)

74 And still, the Leftards are running around saying "23 indictments" in the Trump investigation and no indictments against Obama or Hillary.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 11:51 AM (ATVNj)

75 I've finally come to the conclusion that Mueller and the people on his team like Weissman, are the worst, most treasonous, subversive scum this country has ever faced. Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2018 04:47 PM (VpIIl) I mean, at least East Germany made some pretense at stopping foreign infiltration. Today Mueller rejected even that.

Posted by: trev006 at July 11, 2018 11:51 AM (hiZ2c)

76 68 If he is not guilty he should start acting like it. Trey Gowdy

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 11:51 AM (LiyEm)

77 So this is what #TheResistance has.  
   
Ace,  Rick Wilson is referring to a crackpot theory that Trump was making deals prior to the election with the Russians, whereby they would agree to "solve" the Syrian problem with us in return to for sanctions relief.
  
I know, I know, that doesn't sound illegal in and of itself (in fact, it sounds like a President's job), but that's what they suggest Mueller hopes to be able to prove, maybe.  My source was a Rick Wilson tweet approvingly linking to some idiotic blogger.  I think she is called Empty Wheel or something....

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at July 11, 2018 11:51 AM (LISuA)

78 Who knew that Laventria Beria had a bastard son named Mueller? Show me the man and I'll show you a crime!

Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 11, 2018 11:51 AM (Sda6L)

79 https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1017144598307770369

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at July 11, 2018 11:51 AM (iQhIO)

80 So when's Pop showing up? Posted by: tu3031 In a jiffy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2018 11:52 AM (IqV8l)

81 Posted by: rd at July 11, 2018 04:47 PM (4dz1m) Last time I saw them they were sitting on the winchester drives.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 11, 2018 11:52 AM (XuYmQ)

82 70 They wont throw away Flynn's guilty plea either. Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 04:50 PM (LiyEm) ________________________________________ That'll be reversed on appeal due to Brady violations by the prosecution relating to withholding exculpatory evidence.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 11:52 AM (ATVNj)

83 and the other point D&S made is that manafort basically had a cup of coffee with trump as his campaign chief but he never actually did anything because he was quarantined from the start. Interesting theory. Of course, the Mueller team's behavior is beyond absurd. I think that while manafort may have been a scumbag, he was a typical dc lobbyist scumbag and nothing special.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:52 AM (FOPyv)

84 Your faith in government is touching. But solitary is very different from a private cell. You have to know the difference if you want anyone to take you seriously. Posted by: trev006 at July 11, 2018 04:49 PM (hiZ2c) I have absolutely no faith in government. Where did you get that?

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2018 11:52 AM (+lOpA)

85 This is huge. The judge will dismiss the charges against Manafort in light of this crap. .... Yeah....maybe but... Wasn't there a big deal about Mueller turning over the invetigation to SDNY and NY local prosecutors?? Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 11, 2018 04:48 PM (x9tR0) No way.

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (Z48ZB)

86 82 70 They wont throw away Flynn's guilty plea either. Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 04:50 PM (LiyEm) ________________________________________ That'll be reversed on appeal due to Brady violations by the prosecution relating to withholding exculpatory evidence. --- ----- --- mccarthy, sadly, thinks that this is a nothing burger and it sucks to be you, flynn.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (FOPyv)

87 >>So, why does the never ending Mueller investigation keep going on? Because people rarely volunteer to walk away from an endless supply of money with absolutely no demands or expectations to produce anything of value.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (R85nB)

88 http://bit.ly/2N8Trs2 ===== Paul Sperry on Twitter: "BREAKING: The C.I. prosecutor who ran the DOJ side of both Clinton email & Trump-Russia probes (Strzok's counterpart) strongly opposed reopening Hillary case b/c election hit. David Laufman, Holder hire & Obama donor, was behind rare FARA enforcements vs Flynn, Manafort and Gates"

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (iQhIO)

89 Robert Mueller is the mission creep.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (I2dne)

90 >>Your faith in government is touching. But solitary is very different from a private cell. You have to know the difference if you want anyone to take you seriously. Well according to the information Mueller's team put out last night it sounds more like a private cell with a private bathroom. Manafort doesn't even have to wear prison garb and has access to his laptop and phone and has had numerous meetings with his lawyers. So once again someone is lying.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (/tuJf)

91 I am talking about a real situation where he has to move forward or shut it down. Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 11, 2018 04:51 PM (fYi9j) Nope. This shit will go on into Trump's second term. I think this shit will continue after Trump is out of office.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (Bd6VC)

92 Seems like Trump is setting this up so that he will be able to say "they investigated me for ___ years and found NOTHING."

Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (x9tR0)

93
Gestopo Mueller has charged and imprisoned the Road Runner with failure to use his turn signal, but let the multiple TNT exploding terrorist Wile E. Coyote go about his business.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (r+sAi)

94 70 They wont throw away Flynn's guilty plea either.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 04:50 PM (LiyEm)
________________________________________

That'll be reversed on appeal due to Brady violations by the prosecution relating to withholding exculpatory evidence.


Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 04:52 PM

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Concur.  That's where things usually happen when a prosecutor goes outside the box. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2018 11:53 AM (+Dllb)

95 Facts?   Who needs facts?    Trump is destroying the world and we have to stop him!

Posted by: Democrat Party and ABCBSNBCNN, but we repeat ourselves at July 11, 2018 11:54 AM (UsCnO)

96 I've seen speculation that Manafort was from the beginning a plant in the Trump campaign by the Hillary/DNC/FBI conspiracy plotters. I deem this anywhere from plausible to highly plausible.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 11:54 AM (yUKyn)

97 Got in late to last thread... But everyone should remember, and write to Rick Wilson, anytime he ever has the g-ddamned nerve to call someone racist: Rick Wilson's son got caught on Reddit writing demeaning, racist screeds about black women, and how much he enjoys pissing on them during sex.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2018 11:54 AM (UiRxW)

98 My money is on Trump picking up his pardon pen right after the mid terms. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2018 04:49 PM (+Dllb) I wouldn't be surprised if he declassed everything and pulled the plug on the entire SC clown show after mid terms too.

Posted by: Chase at July 11, 2018 11:54 AM (RbV5J)

99 well, to the point about the lefts' delusions...mueller is still running a nat sec operation about russian influence. He's indicted russians for the crime of blogging the first degree and discovered that foreigners had opinions, with malice, about the 2016 election. big if true.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:55 AM (FOPyv)

100 http://bit.ly/2N8OfnI ==== BOOM: 14 Wrestlers Break Silence About Accusations Against Jim Jordan, Attack MSM & Accusers True Pundit

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at July 11, 2018 11:55 AM (iQhIO)

101 And for this he's in solitary confinement?!!?!?! Posted by: LASue ............ No, he's in solitary confinement for witness tampering... a very big no no. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry No, he's there because he was accused of witness tampering. He was also accused of being part of Russian collusion involving Trump. One out of two just got shit-canned. But when the process ID the punishment, that's more than enough.

Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 11, 2018 11:55 AM (tqyrn)

102 They wont throw away Flynn's guilty plea either. Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 04:50 PM (LiyEm) --- Doesn't matter. The case of Flynn is on life-support...which is Mueller postponing it in perpetuity. A curious thing struck me yesterday. The libs were saying that Kavanaugh is going to help out Trump with Mueller. I mentioned that it would be a month until he's seated, and next June until he writes an opinion on no case that has been filed yet. Are the Dems expecting to be giving Mueller's "investigation" CPR in JUNE OF NEXT YEAR???!! Will they still be telling us that the fate of all Democracies hangs in the balance of Mueller spending more budget--pre-empting the FBI's job?!

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 11:55 AM (vDqXW)

103 Folks (mostly lefties and NeverTrumpers) keep claiming that the country will explode if Mueller is fired. I'd call that bluff.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 11, 2018 11:55 AM (R85nB)

104 speaking of malice, shouldn't the #fakenews crews out there be a bit less open about their hatred of trump considering how much they slander him? if I was a trumpy, and that guy on twitchy/breitbart who said the dossier was fully collaborated? yeah...that's slander and you're obvious full of malice, so pay me.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:56 AM (FOPyv)

105 Folks (mostly lefties and NeverTrumpers) keep claiming that the country will explode if Mueller is fired. I'd call that bluff. Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 11, 2018 04:55 PM (R85nB) Explode in celebration like Croatia after an overtime goal, maybe.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 11:56 AM (yUKyn)

106 So when's Pop showing up? Posted by: tu3031 Pop's devotion to his son, Bob Mueller, is touching. I guess we should be impressed that someone who's 99 years old is up to using a computer. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2018 11:56 AM (AllCR)

107 Perhaps Trump could present all their skulls in a bag.  To Mike Pence at his Inauguration ball.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 11, 2018 11:57 AM (FhXTo)

108 did anybody say it: WHOMP WHOMP

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2018 11:57 AM (Itgns)

109 Trump will have his revenge some day.

Posted by: Max Power [/i] [/b] at July 11, 2018 11:58 AM (q177U)

110 Since Mueller has said in court that the Manafort case has nothing to do with Russian Collusion, Attorney General McSnoozerson is able to involve himself in the case since he only recused himself from the Russian Collusion matter. This is not the Russian Collusion matter, so Jeffy is off the bench and in the game.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 11:58 AM (ATVNj)

111 30 Sorry, but this deserves a flaming skull.

This is huge.

The judge will dismiss the charges against Manafort in light of this crap.  

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A Mueller judge or an American judge?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 11:58 AM (UsCnO)

112 witness tampering? what a joke. That's pretty evil. What does mueller/liberals think? the defense just walks into court without a chance to talk to witnesses beforehand? obviously the system is ripe for abuse, but so what. If you or me were on trial, we'd be sure mom knew to say that we were good boys and didn't do nothing and we didn't come home with blood all over our noses.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:58 AM (FOPyv)

113 Buh BYE blue wave.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2018 11:59 AM (pw+jk)

114 yeah...that's slander and you're obvious full of malice, so pay me." The catch is that it's damned hard for a man who's full of malice to hide the fact that he's full of malice. It just keeps popping up at the most inopportune times. Now if they were calm, calculating, intellectual types - nope, doesn't sound like any lefties I know.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 11:59 AM (k1TUh)

115 Trump will have his revenge some day. Posted by: Max Power at July 11, 2018 04:58 PM (q177U) +++++++ This alone would give me pause if I were in the press. Trump strikes me as a vindictive man and I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it. My car isn't going to blow up and I won't get suicided like a Clinton crony, but I might suddenly find myself broke and unemployable and trying to figure out what the hell happened.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2018 11:59 AM (I2dne)

116 110 Since Mueller has said in court that the Manafort case has nothing to do with Russian Collusion, Attorney General McSnoozerson is able to involve himself in the case since he only recused himself from the Russian Collusion matter. ---- this is the vexinger part. this is no longer rosensein's area then.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 11:59 AM (FOPyv)

117 Mueller investigation AKA witch hunt

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2018 12:00 PM (O2RFr)

118 OK.... so Mueller says this has nothing to do with Russian Collusion... So, then Jeff Sessions recusal is non operative in this case... ergo, Jeff Sessions has control over this particular investigation... or, we have rogue non elected officials.

Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 12:00 PM (NgKpN)

119 "This Stormy Daniels thing will destroy him with the church voters!" "Umm...sir...we booed their God at the convention, we destroyed their institution of marriage, we forced them to pay for abortions and contraception, we mocked them for being backwards idiots that believe in a sky-god spaghetti monster, we aligned with Islam, we made their children go to bathrooms with trannies. They are never coming back sir."

Posted by: Liberal Think-Tank at July 11, 2018 12:00 PM (PeR6h)

120 No, he's in solitary confinement for witness tampering... a very big no no. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry ________________________________________ And Rosenpenis is out there tampering with witnesses every single day.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 12:00 PM (ATVNj)

121 Question: If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's outrageously perjurious IT guy this hard, instead of gifting him with get out of jail free immunity cards, what might he have disclosed about Hillary's and her lawyers' orders to him?
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To ask the question is to answer it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2018 12:00 PM (pw+jk)

122
Man if you haven't seen Trump hammer NATO this morning it really is a must watch.  He looked and spoke great.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 12:00 PM (r+sAi)

123 NO! LIES!! THE CHILDREN!!! DRUMPF MUST BE STOPPED!!!! THIS ISN'T AMERICA ANYMORE!!!!! THESE ARE REAL TEARS AND THIS IS A THROUGHLY EARNEST HAIRCUT!!!!!!

Posted by: Rachel Madd Cow at July 11, 2018 12:00 PM (FMaj3)

124 Mewller's investigation is much like Al Cpaone's safe - empty

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 11, 2018 12:00 PM (MeS8s)

125 A corrupt,partisan DOJ and FBI,a corrupt ,partisan special counsel.Judges and juries that will free criminals to spite Trump.The DOJ simply defying any congressional oversight.Scary times.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (LiyEm)

126 This proves that TRump lied about the Russsaubns. He must be placed in jail and Hillaery be maid Presdent NOW !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (qM84C)

127 Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 04:58 PM (ATVNj)

That is no small point. But it also depends on what agreement they have with the DoJ in terms of the actual prosecution. I doubt they will be taking the same assholes who developed this case, off it an replacing them with someone else of the AG's choosing.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (VpIIl)

128 A Mueller judge or an American judge? Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 04:58 PM (UsCnO) --- Laura Ingraham was saying that nobody will prosecute Page for ignoring a subpoena(!!), because the swamp denizen judges will throw the case out. Swamp judges....

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (vDqXW)

129 Now, someone is leaking to Sperry (as seen on his twitter feed) that Strzok created a fake timeline in a memo to the investigation file of the events surrounding the second Hillary investigation, the one right before the election that didn't officially close until months afterwards (even though Comey falsely told America and the Congress it was closed).

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (LISuA)

130 ell according to the information Mueller's team put out last night it sounds more like a private cell with a private bathroom. Manafort doesn't even have to wear prison garb and has access to his laptop and phone and has had numerous meetings with his lawyers. So once again someone is lying. Posted by: JackStraw Question is on where the smart money is betting. Should I bet for or against the swamp creature who is frantically trying to NOT prosecute the Russians that he indicted and figured wouldn't show? And who staffed his shit show with Clinton minions?

Posted by: Papist Bograt at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (tqyrn)

131 "This Stormy Daniels thing will destroy him with the church voters!" "Umm...sir...we booed their God at the convention, we destroyed their institution of marriage, we forced them to pay for abortions and contraception, we mocked them for being backwards idiots that believe in a sky-god spaghetti monster, we aligned with Islam, we made their children go to bathrooms with trannies. They are never coming back sir." Posted by: Liberal Think-Tank at July 11, 2018 05:00 PM (PeR6h) ++++++++ Which liberal think tank is that rational? This is a serious question. If there is a legitimate, eyes-opened liberal think tank it might be worth following so we'll know the playbook with this progtard experiment is finally in the dustbin of history.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (I2dne)

132 Okay I'm upset. I can't sepll when I'm upset.

Posted by: Rachel Madd Cow at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (lJz7Z)

133 122 Accidentally put on the local news and they are shitting their pants over it.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (LiyEm)

134 obviously the system is ripe for abuse, but so what. If you or me were on trial, we'd be sure mom knew to say that we were good boys and didn't do nothing and we didn't come home with blood all over our noses. Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 04:58 PM (FOPyv) And the method whereby they say he tampered with witnesses? They were monitoring and recording all his emails and phone calls... as he tried to defend himself.

Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (NgKpN)

135 Man if you haven't seen Trump hammer NATO this morning it really is a must watch. He looked and spoke great. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 05:00 PM (r+sAi) If you missed it, it was basically "Daddy's home now and he's looking for The Belt."

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (yUKyn)

136 Mueller's case as worth about as much as England-France World Cup tickets

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (o2772)

137 103 Folks (mostly lefties and NeverTrumpers) keep claiming that the country will explode if Mueller is fired. I'd call that bluff.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 11, 2018 04:55 PM (R85nB)


My prediction - after the November elections, assuming R majorities in both houses, is that Trump is going to give the Corrupt Republican Marine a deadline of put up or shut up, publicly.


Trump will not allow this to fester after the election. 



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 12:01 PM (UsCnO)

138 The sky isn't big enough to accommodate all of the liberal screams that will be cast upwards.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 12:02 PM (ATVNj)

139 Posted by: Rachel Madd Cow at July 11, 2018 05:00 PM (FMaj3) Watching her Election Night bit on YouTube still doesn't get old.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 11, 2018 12:02 PM (Bd6VC)

140 I am willing to call BS on that side-bar article about the Luftwaffe Typhoons. First no link to the Der Spiegel article he is quoting. Really?

Also if one hits up the link he does provide to the Eurofighter web-site, the wing-tip pods for ESM/ECM are part of what is called DASS (Defensive Aids Sub System) that is ubiquitous because Spanish and Italian Typhoons also have the same wing-tip pods.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9bysvcn

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 11, 2018 12:02 PM (MeS8s)

141 As long as it keeps the children amused while PDT keeps driving.  Who cares about the rule of law, etc.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 11, 2018 12:02 PM (FhXTo)

142 >>>Question: If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary phrasing

Posted by: m at July 11, 2018 12:02 PM (CwOPz)

143 A mechanical question. I don't think you can "appeal" a guilty plea, only some kind of verdict or judgement. Withdraw, perhaps. I remain baffled by the seeming (seeming) non-chalance of the Flynn team, the mystery about additional "exculpatory" info (was there any?). Meanwhile, Paul Sperry's worth monitoring on all aspects of the Mega-Scandal. Just the last few weeks, he's pointed out what are probably criminal acts, based on contradictions in known facts and statements by the perps (Strzok, et al). It becomes bewildering - there are so many different sub-currents to all this, and so many obvious or likely violations. The IG report is not aging well, even within weeks. Seems like there are multiple obvious avenues of obstruction and other criminal behavior by DOJ/FBI, just as any intelligent observer has thought since the outset.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2018 12:03 PM (QDnY+)

144 I don't know how much we should read into this. The point is to use this trial to squeeze Manafort, not to convict him of any collusion activities.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 11, 2018 12:03 PM (xPl2J)

145 "They were monitoring and recording all his emails and phone calls... as he tried to defend himself." ----- like giuliani said, witness tampering is when you try to kill witnesses not talk to them.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:03 PM (FOPyv)

146 Now, someone is leaking to Sperry (as seen on his twitter feed) that Strzok created a fake timeline in a memo to the investigation file of the events surrounding the second Hillary investigation, the one right before the election that didn't officially close until months afterwards (even though Comey falsely told America and the Congress it was closed). Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at July 11, 2018 05:01 PM (LISuA) ++++++++++ That is a big deal if it's true. Memoranda are official documents, not a scribble on a note pad. But then again, I also don't think anyone will get punished for anything. So I'll restate it as, "That should be a big deal if it's true."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2018 12:03 PM (I2dne)

147 "This Stormy Daniels thing will destroy him with the church voters!" "Umm...sir...we booed their God at the convention, we destroyed their institution of marriage, we forced them to pay for abortions and contraception, we mocked them for being backwards idiots that believe in a sky-god spaghetti monster, we aligned with Islam, we made their children go to bathrooms with trannies. They are never coming back sir." Posted by: Liberal Think-Tank at July 11, 2018 05:00 PM (PeR6h) ++++++++ Which liberal think tank is that rational? This is a serious question. If there is a legitimate, eyes-opened liberal think tank it might be worth following so we'll know the playbook with this progtard experiment is finally in the dustbin of history. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) You neglected to note that you fuckers dragged us into court.

Posted by: The Little Sisters of the Poor at July 11, 2018 12:03 PM (tqyrn)

148 Swamp judges.... Posted by: Axeman

Say, wanna hear an idea for a new series.....

Posted by: The History Channel at July 11, 2018 12:04 PM (T6t7i)

149 By the way, Judge, before you dismiss these specious charges, did you know that I was a decorated Marine and was inducted into the Ranger Hall of Fame? No. Not the hockey team. Or the baseball team. Yes, sir. Army.

Posted by: Robert Mueller at July 11, 2018 12:04 PM (ATVNj)

150 Trump should pardon him right now.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 11, 2018 12:04 PM (w//GY)

151 "No, he's in solitary confinement for witness tampering... a very big no no.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry "
When's the last time you saw that? Especially on those charges.
I'll be here all day.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2018 12:04 PM (VpIIl)

152 The IG report is not aging well, even within weeks. Seems like there are multiple obvious avenues of obstruction and other criminal behavior by DOJ/FBI, just as any intelligent observer has thought since the outset. Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2018 05:03 PM (QDnY+) Old: Horowitz Will Come. Current: Huber Will Come. Future: Fuck it, let's have a beer.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:04 PM (yUKyn)

153 "Are the Dems expecting to be giving Mueller's "investigation" CPR in JUNE OF NEXT YEAR???!"


Do you know how much lunch costs in this town?  I am milking this expense account until the cows come home!

Posted by: Chief-Inspector Mueller of the Suerte at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (0QYMt)

154 EM KUNG PAO ENTER THE FIST FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (mPeei)

155 also...mueller is squeezing manafort for what? he was campaign manager for about 40 days? What does muller think happened during that time?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (FOPyv)

156 So once again someone is lying. Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2018 04:53 PM (/tuJf) This is not a trustworthy prosecutor. He has destroyed legal norms dating back centuries in using flashy tactics reserved for terrorists and drugs dealers against non-violent suspects. He is currently annihilating any trust the public holds in special prosecutors and doing his damndest to charge Manafort with talking to former associates, aka "organizing a competent defense." And there isn't much Manafort's lawyers can say about any of it. I don't actually mind, because it will be hilarious when the Lrssident starts putting his political enemies in jail with similar tactics, for actual conspiracies that they comitted. Especially Mueller himself.

Posted by: trev006 at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (hiZ2c)

157 I've finally come to the conclusion that Mueller and the people on his team like Weissman, are the worst, most treasonous, subversive scum this country has ever faced. Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2018 04:47 PM (VpIIl) Mueller probably infuriates me the most out of this band of plotters. We were told he was honorable, he served as a Marine, etc., but all those years in the high levels of govt. and he's shown he has nothing but contempt for the country and our laws. He has more in common with the thugs in the KGB than any average patriotic American. He's truly a piece of shit.

Posted by: Chase at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (RbV5J)

158 >>Should I bet for or against the swamp creature who is frantically trying to NOT prosecute the Russians that he indicted and figured wouldn't show? And who staffed his shit show with Clinton minions? True. But I'm finding it a bit difficult to well up a lot of sympathy for Manafort. He is the epitome of a swamp creature, working both sides of the aisle for years taking millions of foreign dollars to influence (aka bribe) US politicians on behalf of foreigners. I'd be ok with locking the two of them in Thunderdome and tossing in some chainsaws and axes.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (/tuJf)

159 Well according to the information Mueller's team put out last night it sounds more like a private cell with a private bathroom. Manafort doesn't even have to wear prison garb and has access to his laptop and phone and has had numerous meetings with his lawyers. So once again someone is lying. Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2018 04:53 PM (/tuJf) In that same 'release' of information, the DOJ talked about things he said in his phone calls... and how he was sending emails... ie, the DOJ is now releasing the PRIVATE conversations of citizens... who are under indictment but not convicted of anything...

Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (NgKpN)

160 Oh great Maxine Waters' Hair has been watching kung-fu movies while eating Chinese take-out

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (MeS8s)

161 Future: Fuck it, let's have a beer. Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 05:04 PM (yUKyn) You had me at Hello.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 11, 2018 12:05 PM (Bd6VC)

162 Trump will not allow this to fester after the election. " I agree - now before the election, I don't see this process hurting Trump at all, in fact I think it is helping him. But if the election is won, as I think it will be, then there will be no point to let the situation fester.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 12:06 PM (k1TUh)

163 Great game. Final should be fun to watch. So glad all the celebrities are out, because now even the media has to admit its about soccer.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2018 12:06 PM (JEV/2)

164 >>>I do not know how Trump keeps his cool on this. He is fueled by his righteous anger.

Posted by: Max Power [/i] [/b] at July 11, 2018 12:06 PM (q177U)

165 The IG report is not aging well, even within weeks. Seems like there are multiple obvious avenues of obstruction and other criminal behavior by DOJ/FBI, just as any intelligent observer has thought since the outset. Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2018 05:03 PM (QDnY+) Old: Horowitz Will Come. Current: Huber Will Come. Future: Fuck it, let's have a beer. ----------------------------- I don't get these comments. The first IG report laid out 500+ pages of bias and abuse. Don't do the old liberal trick of "we ignored these facts and therefore they no longer exist"

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:06 PM (FOPyv)

166 It's a shame that the FBi has to recruit from the dregs of "Law Enforcement" applicants across this country. With as putridly foul, corrupt, and treasonous as they are, it's obvious that all the other "Law Enforcement" agencies are skimming off the cream of the crop and leaving the bottom of the barrel for the FBI.

Posted by: Mark Matis at July 11, 2018 12:06 PM (LzG0h)

167 what is fairly clear is Mueller and Rosenstein (and Comey, others) are part of an attempted coup ... there is zero legit grounds for special counsel with open ended "persecute anyone tied to Trump.  Take years ... see if you can tilt the next election to our mobster friends to get power back"

The question is do they go to prison for treason/sedition ... malicious prosecution, abuse (fabricated evidence/conspiracy) of FISC, lying FBI changing testimonies, cover up of Hillary billions in crime syndicate pay to play deals, fruadulent everything given special treatment (whitewash) of high crimes ... Much More.

Hillary's crimes were blatant, coverup by FBI was blatant ... do they have so much mafia power that our entire government is lost to their moles?  That seems like an open question to me.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 11, 2018 12:06 PM (bT8Z4)

168 68 the old Cuck GOP is fine with this...this is fine...aren't we all guilty of something? Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 04:50 PM (FOPyv)
As much as we loathe the cuckold and/or sellout GOPee, this does raise an interesting question: How many of the GOPee are *blackmailed* rather than cuckiolds or sellouts?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2018 12:06 PM (ujg0T)

169 Mueller probably infuriates me the most out of this band of plotters. We were told he was honorable, he served as a Marine, etc., but all those years in the high levels of govt. and he's shown he has nothing but contempt for the country and our laws. He has more in common with the thugs in the KGB than any average patriotic American. He's truly a piece of shit. Posted by: Chase at July 11, 2018 05:05 PM (RbV5J) Mueller is Rosenstein's Monster... he could not be doing squat without Rosey's OK.

Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 12:07 PM (NgKpN)

170 Posted by: Rachel Madd Cow at July 11, 2018 05:00 PM (FMaj3)

Watching her Election Night bit on YouTube still doesn't get old.


Posted by: ScoggDog at July 11, 2018 05:02 PM

---

I did that very thing this morning, and yes it never gets old. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2018 12:07 PM (+Dllb)

171 Mueller is a type of fire hydrant. Dogs pee on them.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2018 12:07 PM (HgMAr)

172 The have Manafort on some bank fraud case involving misstating his debt and income. There was no complaint by the lending institution. Only Mueller's people. The U.S. Attorney's Office has a threshold for what is prosecutable and I doubt this one would pass the threshold but for the fact that this was Trump's campaign manager, which I guess is a high crime and misdemeanor nowadays. Bank fraud without a complaint by the bank. Total BS case.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 12:08 PM (ATVNj)

173 also...mueller is squeezing manafort for what?

he was campaign manager for about 40 days? What does muller think happened during that time?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 05:05 PM (FOPyv)


You may be surprised what can happen in 40 days.

Posted by: Noah at July 11, 2018 12:08 PM (QLvwG)

174 all these criticisms of mueller are valid. mcarthy points out how he's ignoring DOJ guidelines. And you don't need a law degree to see that he's violating basic tenets of the law, like raiding lawyer's offices...for a trumped up campaign funding violation. Or using the logan act as a basis for dinging Flynn. this is bad.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:08 PM (FOPyv)

175 Trump will not allow this to fester after the election.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 05:01 PM (UsCnO)

I think it helps Trump to have Mueller tilting at windmills, much more so than if he fired him.  Firing Mueller would be the narrative 24/7 until Nov 2020.

He'll fire Rosenstein for sure though, probably Sessions and half the FBI DC office too.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 12:08 PM (UBzPO)

176 My brother, he IS the law.

Posted by: Ben Mueller, Robert Mueller's evil but honest twin. at July 11, 2018 12:08 PM (37IEG)

177 I don't get these comments. The first IG report laid out 500+ pages of bias and abuse. Don't do the old liberal trick of "we ignored these facts and therefore they no longer exist" Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 05:06 PM (FOPyv) ++++++++++ I will give Rhomboid the benefit of the doubt. I read that as, "Neither the conclusion and summary of the IG report, nor the subsequent whitewash in congress during questioning, are aging well."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2018 12:08 PM (I2dne)

178 You may be surprised what can happen in 40 days. --- narrator: I was not surprised.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:08 PM (FOPyv)

179 As much as we loathe the cuckold and/or sellout GOPee, this does raise an interesting question: How many of the GOPee are *blackmailed* rather than cuckiolds or sellouts? Posted by: Curmudgeon Don't care. If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck...

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite [/s][/b][/i][/u] at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (XtR0g)

180 164 >>>I do not know how Trump keeps his cool on this. He is fueled by his righteous anger." He knows he's winning. That's how you keep cool.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (k1TUh)

181 "I don't get these comments. The first IG report laid out 500+ pages of bias and abuse.

Don't do the old liberal trick of "we ignored these facts and therefore they no longer exist""
-----------------

Embrace the bitterness, young jedi.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Package Special! Beer, Fireworks, Bactine, Bandages for $25.00 at The Outrage Outlet! at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (0QYMt)

182 What is Mueller's take home pay for this gig? Before the book advance.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (wdmm9)

183 i think that Mueller has clearly violated the letter, and spirit, of that part of the 4th Amendment requiring that any warrant describe "the place to be searched" as opposed to the abusive "General Warrant" practices of the Crown, i.e. to search whatever for whatever could be found. I also think that they've actually strayed into "Bill of Attainder" violation as well, i.e. legislating to the specific detriment of one individual, i.e. DJT. These are violations so fundamentally opposed to our Constitutional history as to be almost invisible: because the violate things so normally assumed that we just aren't accustomed to seeing them.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (koNhm)

184 I don't get these comments. The first IG report laid out 500+ pages of bias and abuse. Don't do the old liberal trick of "we ignored these facts and therefore they no longer exist" Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 05:06 PM (FOPyv) Well, supposedly Huber and his merry band of federal prosecutors are sitting on tens of thousands of sealed indictments or some such thing. Let's see 'em. Otherwise, the only person who's going to end this entire shit show is Trump, blowing his lifeguard's whistle and telling everybody to get outta the pool. Unless you see some other way this will play out to a positive (favorable to the Republic) end?

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (yUKyn)

185 EM KUNG PAO ENTER THE FIST FOADDY-FI!!! _______________________________________ Fist?

Posted by: Shep! at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (ATVNj)

186 http://bit.ly/2N8MhE2 ======= BREAKING: Strzok was so angry & paranoid about agency leaks & criticism about how he was trying to bury the pile of new evidence on Weiner's laptop to save Hillary's presidential hopes that he actually weighed spying on & criminally investigating FORMER agents & FORMER executives

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (iQhIO)

187 Mueller probably infuriates me the most out of this band of plotters. We were told he was honorable, he served as a Marine, etc., but all those years in the high levels of govt. and he's shown he has nothing but contempt for the country and our laws. Posted by: Chase at July 11, 2018 05:05 PM (RbV5J) Military Service doesn't make one automatically trustworthy. Shit ... I served a full hitch with an Honorable. You wanna' trust me ? No - I didn't think so.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 11, 2018 12:09 PM (Bd6VC)

188 Bank fraud without a complaint by the bank. Total BS case. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 05:08 PM (ATVNj) Mostly involving foreign banks, and payments by foreigners.

Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 12:10 PM (NgKpN)

189 You may be surprised what can happen in 40 days. ---- sure, right. Let's say manafort put a big "open for business" sign on the trump campaign and went to each embassy and asked for bribes. That was basically Hillary's initial FEC campaign statement.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:10 PM (FOPyv)

190 185 http://bit.ly/2N8MhE2 ======= BREAKING: Strzok was so angry & paranoid about agency leaks & criticism about how he was trying to bury the pile of new evidence on Weiner's laptop to save Hillary's presidential hopes that he actually weighed spying on & criminally investigating FORMER agents & FORMER executives Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at July 11, 2018 05:09 PM (iQhIO) He did it all for his Gummy Boo Boo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2018 12:10 PM (VM6ev)

191 So England's out of the World Cup and someone thought it would be a good idea to have a balloon of Trump as a Baby floating over London. Priceless.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 12:10 PM (y8Foj)

192 So the impeeeechment trial starts first thing in the morning?

Posted by: ro-man at July 11, 2018 12:10 PM (RuIsu)

193 ... what might he have disclosed about Hillary's and her lawyers' orders to him?
____

"Remember, don't forget to bring a towel cloth!" -- Hillary

Posted by: ShainS at July 11, 2018 12:10 PM (W/FZl)

194 am willing to call BS on that side-bar article about the Luftwaffe Typhoons. First no link to the Der Spiegel article he is quoting. Really? Also if one hits up the link he does provide to the Eurofighter web-site, the wing-tip pods for ESM/ECM are part of what is called DASS (Defensive Aids Sub System) that is ubiquitous because Spanish and Italian Typhoons also have the same wing-tip pods. https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9bysvcn ..................... I read that article and came away wondering the same thing. And.. You can always get someone to fabricate just about anything if are willing to pay for it.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 12:10 PM (so+oy)

195 At this point Mueller could have committed most anything short of murder and I would want this matter dismissed because it is a politically motivated prosecution by a prosecutor who plays fast and loose with the truth and the law.

Posted by: Locke Common at July 11, 2018 12:11 PM (zpbx8)

196 How many of the GOPee are *blackmailed* rather than cuckiolds or sellouts? Posted by: Curmudgeon Don't care. If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck... Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at July 11, 2018 05:09 PM (XtR0g)
To me, motives *do* matter, although the blackmailed should just step aside now, of course. How much did Denny Hastaert (sp?) not stop because the Demunists knew about the skeletons in his closet? It's a valid question.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2018 12:11 PM (ujg0T)

197 91. Rosenscum just announced an anti-fraud task force to politically persecute Friends of Trump no doubt.

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2018 12:11 PM (Itgns)

198 Trump will not allow this to fester after the election. "

I agree - now before the election, I don't see this process hurting Trump at all, in fact I think it is helping him. But if the election is won, as I think it will be, then there will be no point to let the situation fester.



Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 05:06 PM

---

I am thinking that this may be an election where the dems do not push their normal GOTV stuff. 


Record low unemployment for both blacks and hispanics and the economy is on fire...........might not make people vote for who the dems want them to. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2018 12:11 PM (+Dllb)

199 Mostly involving foreign banks, and payments by foreigners. Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 05:10 PM (NgKpN) _______________________________________ You mean like the Clinton Foundation?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 12:11 PM (ATVNj)

200 Military Service doesn't make one automatically trustworthy. Shit ... I served a full hitch with an Honorable. You wanna' trust me ? No - I didn't think so. Posted by: ScoggDog at July 11, 2018 05:09 PM (Bd6VC) I'd trust you over 1000 politicians... I know you'd shoot me from the front, not stab me in the back. /Salute!

Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 12:12 PM (NgKpN)

201 But I'm finding it a bit difficult to well up a lot of sympathy for Manafort. He is the epitome of a swamp creature Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2018 05:05 PM (/tuJf) Two points: 1) This rotten conspiracy will start prosecuting someone you care about. It's why the ACLU used to defend even right wing causes in the name of civil liberties, before they decided to be liberal hacks. 2) Manafort is a fuck lot more sympathetic than a Gestapo type like Mueller and his band of degenerates. I understand that you're defending the rule of law and insisting that a competent administration has nothing to fear. But when Americans without criminal records can be jailed for lengthy intervals on pretexts, that is not our country anymore. And time is very much a factor.

Posted by: trev006 at July 11, 2018 12:12 PM (hiZ2c)

202 "The have Manafort on some bank fraud case involving misstating his debt and income. " --- whoa, big if true. The NYSD district attorney may charge me for stating I'm 6'3" on Match.com.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:12 PM (FOPyv)

203 an interesting question: How many of the GOPee are *blackmailed* rather than cuckiolds or sellouts? In that same vein, I was thinking last night: if Roberts were being blackmailed and/or threatened, why would they ever allow Janus to happen?

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2018 12:12 PM (rYk7m)

204 Mueller will end the investigation at the beginning of Oct with a flurry of process crime indictments, so that the entire month leading to the midterms will be filled with perp walks for obstruction charges. Obstructing justice of an investigation into a crime that never happened.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 11, 2018 12:13 PM (wdmm9)

205 To me, motives *do* matter, although the blackmailed should just step aside now, of course. How much did Denny Hastaert (sp?) not stop because the Demunists knew about the skeletons in his closet? It's a valid question. Posted by: Curmudgeon Sure it's a valid question. Doesn't mean I'm going to hang him with a softer rope.

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite [/s][/b][/i][/u] at July 11, 2018 12:13 PM (XtR0g)

206 How many of the GOPee are *blackmailed* rather than cuckiolds or sellouts?<<<<< <<<
>> Judging the nature of the world and the nature of people with power and influence, I'd imagine there are many sex videos of many of these people sitting at NSA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 12:13 PM (r+sAi)

207 "Oh, somewhere in this favored world the sun is shining bright.  The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light.  And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout, but there is no joy in England - for the English team is out"

Posted by: DamnedYankee at July 11, 2018 12:13 PM (37IEG)

208 Two points: 1) This rotten conspiracy will start prosecuting someone you care about. It's why the ACLU used to defend even right wing causes in the name of civil liberties, before they decided to be liberal hacks. 2) Manafort is a fuck lot more sympathetic than a Gestapo type like Mueller and his band of degenerates. I understand that you're defending the rule of law and insisting that a competent administration has nothing to fear. But when Americans without criminal records can be jailed for lengthy intervals on pretexts, that is not our country anymore. And time is very much a factor. Posted by: trev006 at July 11, 2018 05:12 PM (hiZ2c)
THIS. Hate The Swamp, but I can get that some in the GOP adapted to it in order to survive in it, especially when they were a minority party for decades.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2018 12:13 PM (ujg0T)

209 How many millions of people lied about their income/debts on mortgage applications during the housing boom? And almost none of them were criminally prosecuted, let alone held in solitary confinement before trial. This whole thing is such bullshit.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2018 12:14 PM (fqUgw)

210 After Mrs Diogenes screamed, I was forced to kill the spider in the bathroom. One she said was a cross between a black widow, a brown recluse, and a tarantula. And, it was facing east towards Mecca. So...I'm guilty of killing a progressive multiracial, and probably trans (since xhe was watching my wife in the loo) muzzy life form. And I voted for Trump. Cue the clock...who gets here first? Evergreen State-based Antifa thugs or Meuller's stasi team?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 12:14 PM (0tfLf)

211 Mueller will end the investigation at the beginning of Oct with a flurry of process crime indictments, so that the entire month leading to the midterms will be filled with perp walks for obstruction charges. Obstructing justice of an investigation into a crime that never happened. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 11, 2018 05:13 PM (wdmm9) Meh. No one will care. Football season.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 12:14 PM (y8Foj)

212 208 How many millions of people lied about their income/debts on mortgage applications during the housing boom? And almost none of them were criminally prosecuted, let alone held in solitary confinement before trial.

This whole thing is such bullshit.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2018 05:14 PM (fqUgw)


How many F*ing BANKERS helped and encouraged them to lie! 

Posted by: DamnedYankee at July 11, 2018 12:14 PM (37IEG)

213 My brother, he IS the law. Posted by: Ben Mueller, Robert Mueller's evil but honest twin. at July 11, 2018 05:08 PM (37IEG) ............ Dog piss on you both. https://tinyurl.com/y9hlvxjz

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2018 12:14 PM (HgMAr)

214 Mostly involving foreign banks, and payments by foreigners.

Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 05:10 PM (NgKpN)
_______________________________________

You mean like the Clinton Foundation?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 05:11 PM (ATVNj)


Ixnay.  Ipzay ouyay ipray.

Posted by: Chinese Busboys of New York at July 11, 2018 12:14 PM (QLvwG)

215 "No, he's in solitary confinement for witness tampering... a very big no no. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry " When's the last time you saw that? Especially on those charges. I'll be here all day. Posted by: Marcus T .............. It's a big fucking deal, Marcus. http://tinyurl.com/ycqxsvzw "Depending on the circumstances of the case, witness tampering can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony, including: Federal witness intimidation is punishable by up to 20 years in federal prison and a fine of up to $250,000."

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 12:15 PM (so+oy)

216 How many F*ing BANKERS helped and encouraged them to lie! ----- how many democrat pols begged them to let their applicants lie?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:15 PM (FOPyv)

217 Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 05:12 PM (NgKpN) I think it just hit me how fucking dire the situation really is. Cheers.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 11, 2018 12:15 PM (Bd6VC)

218 How many F*ing BANKERS helped and encouraged them to lie! Posted by: DamnedYankee at July 11, 2018 05:14 PM (37IEG) Most of them.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 12:15 PM (y8Foj)

219 How many millions of people lied about their income/debts on mortgage applications during the housing boom? And almost none of them were criminally prosecuted, let alone held in solitary confinement before trial. This whole thing is such bullshit. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2018 05:14 PM (fqUgw)
Playing Affirmative Action with home lending degraded the credibility and value of securities backed by home loans. Who knew?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2018 12:16 PM (ujg0T)

220 Mueller is convinced that everyone he investigates is guilty, or he wouldn't be investigating them. That explains why he fixated on Steven Hatfill in the Anthrax letter investigation - even though it was obvious to even a casual observer Hatfill had nothing to do with the case. It also explains why Mueller wouldn't charge Whitey Bulger with anything, he didn't think he was guilty, because Bulger was his informant - so no investigation of him.

Mueller was FBI director when he investigated Manafort for these charges originally, and the DOJ prosecutors wouldn't take the case back then. So Mueller waited until he had a prosecutor who would take the case (himself) to bring the charges.

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at July 11, 2018 12:16 PM (W5V/X)

221 "Depending on the circumstances of the case, witness tampering can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony, including: Federal witness intimidation is punishable by up to 20 years in federal prison and a fine of up to $250,000." ---- so. what? defendants are allowed to confront their accusers and discuss the case with witnesses. It's one thing to cut and paste a law, it's another to go into the case law and guidelines as to what is and is not intimidation.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:16 PM (FOPyv)

222 I'd imagine there are many sex videos of many of these people sitting at NSA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 05:13 PM (r+sAi)



Poor Bob.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Package Special! Beer, Fireworks, Bactine, Bandages for $25.00 at The Outrage Outlet! at July 11, 2018 12:16 PM (0QYMt)

223
Still remains strange to me that Gestapo Mueller has people indicted and sitting in jail, yet page, strzok, mccabe, comey and others are walking around free.  Just one indictment would be nice, yet I suspect Rosenstein doesn't want anything leading back to him.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 12:16 PM (r+sAi)

224 Mueller needs to pay a price for this, and anyone who colluded with Mueller to falsely accuse Trump needs to be investigated for conspiracy. Everyone in the FBI and everyone in the DOJ is tainted by this corruption. No jury should ever believe a DOJ prosecutor or an FBI informant, or FBI 'expert witness'; they can no longer be trusted.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 11, 2018 12:16 PM (roQNm)

225 At least Manafort didn't put some chick in a trash compactor.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2018 12:17 PM (HgMAr)

226 What is Mueller's take home pay for this gig? Before the book advance. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 11, 2018 05:09 PM (wdmm9) --------------- No idea, but don't forget he is with an outside firm that has been given a blank, wide open purchase order to bill the Govt. 10s of millions of dollars for this ongoing witch hunt. I'm sure that makes him a rainmaker within his office, and should get him at least a 7 digit bonus.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 11, 2018 12:17 PM (oivx6)

227 So England's out of the World Cup and someone thought it would be a good idea to have a balloon of Trump as a Baby floating over London. They'll play on Saturday, there's also some "World Cup of Athletics" in London this weekend. And will Wimbledon still be on? Many opportunities for the media to 'report' on this blimp- all in the interests of news-gathering, of course.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2018 12:17 PM (+cu3S)

228 Mueller is convinced that everyone he investigates is guilty, or he wouldn't be investigating them. That explains why he fixated on Steven Hatfill in the Anthrax letter investigation - even though it was obvious to even a casual observer Hatfill had nothing to do with the case. It also explains why Mueller wouldn't charge Whitey Bulger with anything, he didn't think he was guilty, because Bulger was his informant - so no investigation of him. Mueller was FBI director when he investigated Manafort for these charges originally, and the DOJ prosecutors wouldn't take the case back then. So Mueller waited until he had a prosecutor who would take the case (himself) to bring the charges. Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2018 05:16 PM (W5V/X) Very good analysis.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 12:18 PM (y8Foj)

229 "Depending on the circumstances of the case, witness tampering can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony, including: Federal witness intimidation is punishable by up to 20 years in federal prison and a fine of up to $250,000." Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 05:15 PM (so+oy) So is depends on what team one plays for the "up to" punishment? When was the last time a donk got hammered this hard for this?

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 11, 2018 12:18 PM (oFsfu)

230 so. what? defendants are allowed to confront their accusers and discuss the case with witnesses. It's one thing to cut and paste a law, it's another to go into the case law and guidelines as to what is and is not intimidation. Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast .............. Don't be an idiot. He was instructed not to talk with any potential witnesses. He did.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 12:18 PM (so+oy)

231 How many F*ing BANKERS helped and encouraged them to lie! __________________ Lots of them, and none of them were prosecuted either, even though they were committing federal crimes.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 11, 2018 12:19 PM (fqUgw)

232 6 So if Manafort was not involved in Russian collusion that didn't exist, why is Mueller prosecuting this at all? Oh, wait, that's right: he can go freewheeling all over the country side and charge anybody with anything. What a joke. Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 11, 2018 04:40 PM (XuYmQ) Did not this judge ask for documents about Mueller's authority. I never heard of anything being delivered but the judge gave his A-Ok.

Posted by: MAGA at July 11, 2018 12:19 PM (6L83+)

233 how many democrat pols begged them to let their applicants lie? Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 05:15 PM How many time did the Rev Jackson threated to stage a boycott of banks if they did anything close to review a loan app?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 12:19 PM (0tfLf)

234 This alone would give me pause if I were in the press. Trump strikes me as a vindictive man and I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it. My car isn't going to blow up and I won't get suicided like a Clinton crony, but I might suddenly find myself broke and unemployable and trying to figure out what the hell happened. Posted by: Joe Mannix ( Agree. Also, the harassment of his staff, and the vile things said about his wife, children and grandchildren. Hell hath no fury.

Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2018 12:20 PM (oiNtH)

235 shit, muller thinks that consulting a lawyer is obstruction of justice, that talking to subordinates is obstruction of justice, that any act that can have a negative effect is a conspiracy to defraud the US govt, that the logan act is a vital piece of law that applies to incoming adminstration officials and that lawyers are just co-conspirators.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:20 PM (FOPyv)

236 Don't be an idiot. He was instructed not to talk with any potential witnesses. He did. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 05:18 PM (so+oy) So, you can instruct a defendant not to organize a defense now? How.... interesting...

Posted by: Don Q at July 11, 2018 12:20 PM (NgKpN)

237 It's all about the fat stacks, sodomy, and rape.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 11, 2018 12:20 PM (of+54)

238 "Don't be an idiot. He was instructed not to talk with any potential witnesses. He did." --- sad face cat meme.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:21 PM (FOPyv)

239 231 6 So if Manafort was not involved in Russian collusion that didn't exist, why is Mueller prosecuting this at all? _____________________________________ He's effectively created his own parallel DOJ. That's what the judge was concerned about a few months ago.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 12:21 PM (ATVNj)

240 So Page told Congress to stick it eh? Cue the Federal marshals in three...two... Huh? What? Donut sale in Sterling you say??!! Well Hell!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 12:21 PM (0tfLf)

241 233 This alone would give me pause if I were in the press. Trump strikes me as a vindictive man and I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it. My car isn't going to blow up and I won't get suicided like a Clinton crony, but I might suddenly find myself broke and unemployable and trying to figure out what the hell happened. Posted by: Joe Mannix ( Agree. Also, the harassment of his staff, and the vile things said about his wife, children and grandchildren. Hell hath no fury. Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2018 05:20 PM (oiNtH)
I can only hope! This might also explain the "get Trump" hysteria the Demunists are whipping up, as if they want an assassination attempt.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2018 12:21 PM (ujg0T)

242 So, you can instruct a defendant not to organize a defense now? --- talking to a lawyer is obstruction, after all.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:21 PM (FOPyv)

243 Whatever happened to the assertion that Mueller didn't tell Manafort who were the witnesses against him (contrary to correct judicial procedure) so therefore the whole "witness tampering" thing was a Kafkatrap? Or was that debunked?

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:21 PM (yUKyn)

244 155 also...mueller is squeezing manafort for what?

he was campaign manager for about 40 days? What does muller think happened during that time?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 05:05 PM (FOPyv) 

======

In 40 days, Trump quietly set up a "non-profit", and then foreign corporations with direct Russian connections gave him $145 million dollars, in exchange for buying 20% of American raw uranium stocks.    And Melania was paid $500,000 for a 45 minute speech to a Russian corporation, in Russia. 



Oh, wait........


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 12:22 PM (UsCnO)

245 He's effectively created his own parallel DOJ. That's what the judge was concerned about a few months ago. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 05:21 PM (ATVNj) Mark Levin's been hammering this very point for months.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 12:22 PM (y8Foj)

246 Manafort played this all wrong.  He should have just shot Mueller because the penalties would have been less.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2018 12:22 PM (pw+jk)

247 If you happen to be in the market for a lawyer, do yourself a favor and avoid any of these even if they were the last fk'n lawyer on the planet in the middle of a zombie apocalypse https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScUrOBy5sPzw1VGusbYr2VqVqPiNmO5adNdo8mIcsryvgOfrw/viewform

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2018 12:22 PM (pHfeF)

248 242. Nope. That's real. Kafkatrap. As Mueller has demonstrated EVERYONE is a potential witness.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 11, 2018 12:22 PM (fA1SL)

249 237 "Don't be an idiot. He was instructed not to talk with any potential witnesses. He did." ---- any. potential. witnesses. any. potential. sounds legit.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:22 PM (FOPyv)

250 Don't be an idiot. He was instructed not to talk with any potential witnesses. He did. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry It's my understanding (I may be wrong), but Manafort's team requested a potential witness list and Mueller's team told them to pound sand. Manafort called a "friend" and whoops he was on the list of potential witnesses.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 11, 2018 12:23 PM (Bdeb0)

251
This might also explain the "get Trump" hysteria the Demunists are whipping up, as if they want an assassination attempt.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2018 05:21 PM (ujg0T) 


Impossible, that could never happen.


Posted by: Steve Scalise at July 11, 2018 12:23 PM (UsCnO)

252 Skip is broadening our horizons.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:23 PM (yUKyn)

253 Oooohhhhh.... elbow room!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 12:23 PM (0tfLf)

254 It's my understanding (I may be wrong), but Manafort's team requested a potential witness list and Mueller's team told them to pound sand. Manafort called a "friend" and whoops he was on the list of potential witnesses. Posted by: wrg500 at July 11, 2018 05:23 PM (Bdeb0) THE PERFECT CRIME

Posted by: hogmartin at July 11, 2018 12:23 PM (y87Qq)

255 ..........................................................whoa, wasn't me..............................................

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2018 12:23 PM (HgMAr)

256
I thought I read where Manfort wasn't even give the list of witnesses so he didn't even know who he was supposed to be not talking to, which would be bull in any case.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 12:23 PM (r+sAi)

257 201 "The have Manafort on some bank fraud case involving misstating his debt and income. " --- whoa, big if true. The NYSD district attorney may charge me for stating I'm 6'3" on Match.com. Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 05:12 PM (FOPyv) Would you be shocked to learn that women's groups have been lobbying (and in one state a bill was publically floated) that if a man misrepresents himself and has sex with a woman, that woman can charge him with rape?

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 11, 2018 12:23 PM (of+54)

258 He's effectively created his own parallel DOJ. That's what the judge was concerned about a few months ago. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 05:21 PM (ATVNj) --- That's that "Independent Police State" that the Dems have been asking for.

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (vDqXW)

259 Fucking blown margins.

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite [/s][/b][/i][/u] at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (XtR0g)

260 246 Open Letter from Yale Law Students, Alumni, and Educators Regarding Brett Kavenaugh

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (pHfeF)

261 I can fit my wide ass in here. Thank you!

Posted by: Fat Alice from Dallas at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (ATVNj)

262 How the hell did Skip post a URL that long?!

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (vDqXW)

263 *runs from the side-bar*

Someone hates us...  nude Lena Dunham pics?  I ain't clicking on that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (MeS8s)

264 I did it, Going to the barrel right now

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (pHfeF)

265 214 "No, he's in solitary confinement for witness tampering... a very big no no. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry " ---------- So they can just up and jail you huh? Has he been convicted of witness tampering? Hell, has he even been charged with witness tampering?

Posted by: MAGA at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (6L83+)

266 236 It's all about the fat stacks, sodomy, and rape.  

 Go on...................

Posted by: Barky and the Deep State at July 11, 2018 12:24 PM (UsCnO)

267 Now I've got room for big Cornish head.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at July 11, 2018 12:25 PM (xPJvm)

268 This might also explain the "get Trump" hysteria the Demunists are whipping up, as if they want an assassination attempt. Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2018 05:21 PM (ujg0T) I hate even thinking about that, but you're right.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 12:25 PM (y8Foj)

269 When is the OIG fisa abuse report due?

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 11, 2018 12:25 PM (swEzU)

270 my

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at July 11, 2018 12:25 PM (xPJvm)

271 226 So England's out of the World Cup and someone thought it would be a good idea to have a balloon of Trump as a Baby floating over London.

They'll play on Saturday, there's also some "World Cup of Athletics" in London this weekend. And will Wimbledon still be on? Many opportunities for the media to 'report' on this blimp- all in the interests of news-gathering, of course.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2018 05:17 PM (+cu3S)

The Croatian PM gave Trump a soccer jersey before the match and posed w/ it giving it a thumbs up. The Brits were not amused, as they say (story in DM). Behold the power of Trump.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 12:25 PM (a0IVu)

272 Lot's of GIRTH

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2018 12:25 PM (y8Foj)

273 Krystal let me expand on my comment. I didn't mean the IG report was bad in itself, but that given two key considerations, it was weak to the point of being a problem. "Bias" is not a crime under the US Code. It might be a serious matter WRT internal guidelines of DOJ (it must be), but that's different. I don't care about "bias" - I care about action, inaction, criminal liability for these, everything connected with obstruction of justice, abuse of power (which are in the USC). IG report found the investigative decisions of the Espionage Act non-investigation, a clumsy inartful farce of a cover-up - defensible. And the over-arching thing that made the IG report so weak it becomes an actual problem - there is no doubt massive, clumsy, intentional, systematic, damaging (as foreign penetration is now deemed highly likely) violations of the Espionage Act occurred. But an exhaustive investigation by the IG finds no specific much less criminal fault with the farcical non-investigation that resulted in *no prosecutions* from this historically unprecedented crime wave at the top of the government's senior cabinet department It's facially ridiculous. Oh - and if (if) "Huber comes", and delivers indictments of the perps, I'm thinking their defense counsel are going to be quite happy to have that "reasonable investigative judgement" finding to cite to a jury.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2018 12:25 PM (QDnY+)

274 Calm Mentor, I was reading your prayer request and what popped into my head was "Virtual Assistant". It is from some time ago, but there are new companies that fill jobs in a tech way, and I think some are sales. Anyway, it is from long ago memory, and my brain suddenly churned it up, so maybe at least check it out. Iirc, I found a whole world of new stuff, but it was forever ago and so I have nothing recent to link ya to, or even how things have evolved. May be something there for ya, or not. Good luck.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at July 11, 2018 12:26 PM (p9qVR)

275 Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2018 05:22 PM (pHfeF) ----------------- Damn man, you know better than to do that. WTAF? To the barrel, bigly.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 11, 2018 12:26 PM (oivx6)

276
Anybody who went to the World Cup this year is potentially tied to Russian Collusion.

Posted by: Gestapo Mueller at July 11, 2018 12:26 PM (r+sAi)

277 Mueller will be on this until Trump fires him, probably after the 2020 election. Rosenstein will never fire Mueller, he's Rosenstein's and Sessions lifeline. He'll fire all three at once.

Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2018 12:26 PM (STPlW)

278 Who blew the margins?! Come to me, my pretty.

Posted by: The Barrel at July 11, 2018 12:26 PM (p9qVR)

279 256 201 "The have Manafort on some bank fraud case involving misstating his debt and income. " --- whoa, big if true. The NYSD district attorney may charge me for stating I'm 6'3" on Match.com. Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 05:12 PM Mrs Branadstetter at the library is holding key evidence on PDT. Forty years...FORTY YEARS he has been holding "The Red Badge of Courage" and hasn't returned it. Overdue fines about equal all of the Trump fortune. Convenient that.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 12:27 PM (0tfLf)

280 The only charge that Awan was made to plead to was Bank fraud, the "prosecutors" recommended no jail time. What are the odds Mueller will recomend no jail time for Manefort? This is all a multi-act production of The Aristocrats.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 11, 2018 12:27 PM (pmhcx)

281 Would you be shocked to learn that women's groups have been lobbying (and in one state a bill was publically floated) that if a man misrepresents himself and has sex with a woman, that woman can charge him with rape?

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 11, 2018 05:23 PM (of+54)


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Hey my ruler was modified.  I looked at in the pool. I'm near sighted.  As God as my witness I thought a foot was 8 inches.  It's not my fault!!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2018 12:27 PM (pw+jk)

282 boin oin oin oin oingggggg.....

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 12:27 PM (k1TUh)

283 John Gotti was given more leeway than Manafort. I'm not a fan of Manafort based on his lobbying efforts but it's obvious that Mueller is going to convict this guy whether he's innocent or not. He has a history of doing just that.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 11, 2018 12:27 PM (N4pek)

284 Anybody who went to the World Cup this year is potentially tied to Russian Collusion. Posted by: Gestapo Mueller at July 11, 2018 05:26 PM (r+sAi) Anybody who WATCHED a World Cup game, or read anything about a World Cup game, is guilty of collusion with Russian propaganda. We're all headed for the camps. Might as well just make it easy on Herr Mueller and start queueing up now.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:28 PM (yUKyn)

285

 

 Don't be an idiot. He was instructed not to talk with any potential witnesses. He did.

 

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 05:18 PM (so+oy)

 

 

How would he know who a potential witness would be if the FBI didn't turn over their list?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 11, 2018 12:28 PM (10vO4)

286 276 Mueller will be on this until Trump fires him, probably after the 2020 election. Rosenstein will never fire Mueller, he's Rosenstein's and Sessions lifeline. He'll fire all three at once. Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2018 05:26 PM Nov 10, 2018 "Cross fingers"

Posted by: MAGA at July 11, 2018 12:28 PM (6L83+)

287 If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's ... I stopped reading right there

Posted by: TexasDan[/i] at July 11, 2018 12:29 PM (yL25O)

288 Skip, do you need a link to Tiny URL page?

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 11, 2018 12:29 PM (p9qVR)

289 Calm Mentor, I was reading your prayer request and what popped into my head was "Virtual Assistant". It is from some time ago, but there are new companies that fill jobs in a tech way, and I think some are sales. Anyway, it is from long ago memory, and my brain suddenly churned it up, so maybe at least check it out. Iirc, I found a whole world of new stuff, but it was forever ago and so I have nothing recent to link ya to, or even how things have evolved. May be something there for ya, or not. Good luck. Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at July 11, 2018 05:26 PM (p9qVR) ------------- Thank you, I will check it out!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 11, 2018 12:29 PM (oivx6)

290 Anybody who went to the World Cup this year is potentially tied to Russian Collusion. --- any player that talked to a ref is guilty of obstruction.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:29 PM (FOPyv)

291 Mueller was FBI director when he investigated Manafort for these charges originally, and the DOJ prosecutors wouldn't take the case back then. So Mueller waited until he had a prosecutor who would take the case (himself) to bring the charges.
Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2018 05:16 PM (W5V/X)

It's especially galling that Tony Podesta was his partner in all this and just walked away.  Not a peep about him.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 12:29 PM (UBzPO)

292 Cue the Federal marshals in three...two... Huh? What? Donut sale in Sterling you say??!! Well Hell!!!! Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 05:21 PM (0tfLf) To bad I'm fictional.

Posted by: Marshal Givens at July 11, 2018 12:29 PM (oFsfu)

293 Best blowjob I've evah had

Posted by: The margins at July 11, 2018 12:30 PM (STPlW)

294 277. I could see Trump cleaning hnuse right after the midterms.

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2018 12:30 PM (Itgns)

295 Re:  Mueller - Manafort. 

So the pizza delivery guy is a witness?   

Of course. 

Everyone knows what "large with double meat and extra cheese" means in international banking code. 


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 12:30 PM (UsCnO)

296 If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's ... I stopped reading right there Posted by: TexasDan at July 11, 2018 05:29 PM (yL25O) --- Hell! I wouldn't even pop that.

Posted by: Dr. Pimple Popper at July 11, 2018 12:30 PM (oFsfu)

297 It's especially galling that Tony Podesta was his partner in all this and just walked away. Not a peep about him. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 05:29 PM (UBzPO) --- And the Podestas had more to do with actual Russia, than a Ukrainian politician currying Russia's favor.

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 12:30 PM (vDqXW)

298 How would he know who a potential witness would be if the FBI didn't turn over their list? Posted by: Flawless Male Logic ................. The people he contacted complained to the FBI that Manafort was suborning perjury. Manafort knew full well what he was doing.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 12:30 PM (so+oy)

299 Since you brought up Kavanaugh, let me just vent for a second about the chokehold Harvard and Yale has on the Supreme Court. Yale: Alito, Thomas, Sotomayor and now Kavanaugh Harvard: Kagan, Gorsuch, Roberts, Ginsberg, Breyer. I think it's harmful to select Supreme Court justices who have come through only two law schools. And their clerks as well. The Supreme Court is all about diversity, except when it comes to a law school education. I would like to see a justice from a blue collar law school. There are qualified and intelligent lawyers from law school all across America. They just may not have had the connections to get into Harvard or Yale. Put a justice on the court from outside of the Harvard/Yale pipeline.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 12:30 PM (ATVNj)

300 Let's state 2 things - 1) I never liked Manafort, and 2) the prosecution of Manafort is a travesty of justice.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at July 11, 2018 12:31 PM (ABH6n)

301 Best blowjob I've evah had Posted by: The margins at July 11, 2018 05:30 PM (STPlW) Never a cob around when you need one.

Posted by: Gramps, in the outhouse at July 11, 2018 12:31 PM (yUKyn)

302 as if they want an assassination attempt. Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 11, 2018 05:21 PM (ujg0T) ------ My suspicion is, that's exactly right. I think they are realizing that they are just not going to be able to take this guy down, not by the typical means of shaming, or the extraordinary means of framing, and now are trying to create a situation where something will "happen" to Trump.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2018 12:31 PM (UiRxW)

303 I would like to see a justice from a blue collar law school. There are qualified and intelligent lawyers from law school all across America. They just may not have had the connections to get into Harvard or Yale. Put a justice on the court from outside of the Harvard/Yale pipeline.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 05:30 PM (ATVNj)

I was advocating for this yesterday - a mid-westerner or Texan from non ivy-league school.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 12:31 PM (a0IVu)

304 I have it on good authority the sonofabitch tore a tag off a mattress in 1979. This will not go unpunished.

Posted by: Bob "Malicious Prosecution" Mueller at July 11, 2018 12:31 PM (nILVB)

305 Adirondack -- you are correct. I was hoping for the midwestern judge to go to scotus but it turns out he was a cuck so better luck next time

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:32 PM (FOPyv)

306 268 When is the OIG fisa abuse report due?

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 11, 2018 05:25 PM (swEzU)


Too much NatSec stuff is required, so most likely never.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 12:32 PM (UBzPO)

307 Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 05:30 PM (ATVNj) I was advocating for this yesterday - a mid-westerner or Texan from non ivy-league school. DON WILLETT

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 12:33 PM (k1TUh)

308 "The people he contacted complained to the FBI that Manafort was suborning perjury. Manafort knew full well what he was doing. " --- which is a risk we take in a free society where people are able to organize a defense.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:33 PM (FOPyv)

309 298 Since you brought up Kavanaugh, let me just vent for a second about the chokehold Harvard and Yale has on the Supreme Court.

Yale: Alito, Thomas, Sotomayor and now Kavanaugh

Harvard: Kagan, Gorsuch, Roberts, Ginsberg, Breyer.

I think it's harmful to select Supreme Court justices who have come through only two law schools. And their clerks as well.


pepdaughter3 got into HLS, but chose Stanford instead.  I hope that doesn't torpedo her chances to get on SCOTUS.  Yup, that's a humble brag.

Posted by: pep at July 11, 2018 12:33 PM (T6t7i)

310 The bank fraud case is the weakest of weak tea, alleging Manafort overstated the value of some real estate he was pledging for collateral. It's weak because the collateral value of real estate, if the bank has to rely on it for collateral value at all, is required to be established by appraisal. If it wasn't appraised, the bank had enough security in his pledged securities and other collateral and the property was gravy. It's a bullshit charge.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obi Wan at July 11, 2018 12:33 PM (LISuA)

311 Mueller has requested an additional 100 blank subpoenas. https://tinyurl.com/ydcalngk

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 11, 2018 12:33 PM (HiLJ1)

312 Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 05:30 PM (ATVNj) Could have had a math major from SMU but National Review led the charge against it.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 11, 2018 12:33 PM (N4pek)

313 When is the OIG fisa abuse report due? Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 11, 2018 05:25 PM (swEzU) Too much NatSec stuff is required, so most likely never. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 05:32 PM (UBzPO) Of course, conveniently, "makes the FBI/DOJ look bad" is exactly synonymous with "National Security."

Posted by: Gramps, in the outhouse at July 11, 2018 12:33 PM (yUKyn)

314 Trust The Plan.
/s

Posted by: Under Fire at July 11, 2018 12:34 PM (r9UYA)

315
Anybody who WATCHED a World Cup game, or read anything about a World Cup game, is guilty of collusion with Russian propaganda.

We're all headed for the camps. Might as well just make it easy on Herr Mueller and start queueing up now.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 05:28 PM (yUKyn) 

 


Damn.    I only watched the overtime on the England Croatia match.  

 

And I don't even like soccer.............

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 12:34 PM (UsCnO)

316 Mueller's actual job is to keep the Trump administration from being able to charge anyone in the Obama administration with crimes - by claiming it to be obstruction of Justice if they go after any of the Dems.

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at July 11, 2018 12:34 PM (W5V/X)

317 MAGA- maybe Dec 24, 2018. It will be A Deplorable Christmas.

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2018 12:35 PM (Itgns)

318 ted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 05:34 PM (UsCnO) 315 Mueller's actual job is to keep the Trump administration from being able to charge anyone in the Obama administration with crimes - by claiming it to be obstruction of Justice if they go after any of the Dems. --- which is just how we want a democracy in a free society to operate. thanks, rosenstein.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:35 PM (FOPyv)

319 Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2018 05:34 PM (W5V/X) ---- Yeah, I think that's one f his actual jobs. But I do believe he set out to try and frame Trump, with that being a side benefit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (UiRxW)

320 "You watched the World Cup and didn't recuse yourself?!"

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (/lkI0)

321 Someone hates us... nude Lena Dunham pics? I ain't clicking on that.

Lena Dunham is sick in the head no matter what she weighs.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (oVJmc)

322 I can't get enough of libs talking about the conspiracy to put Kavanaugh in a seat. The story is that Kennedy would only step down if he could pick his successor. And Trump dealt with him on that basis. That's it. They're layering it with detail. And gasping over it, but that's it. Nothing in the Constitution says the nominee has to be the President's own idea, nothing says it can be part of some kind of deal. The president has the power to appoint. Period. But they're "investigating" it.

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (vDqXW)

323  @315  Yep, especially his buddies Comey and Brennan.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (r+sAi)

324

 

The people he contacted complained to the FBI that Manafort was suborning perjury. Manafort knew full well what he was doing.

 

 

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 05:30 PM (so+oy)

 

 

Suborning perjury usually only applies to attorneys

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (10vO4)

325 OT: Lena Dunham at 138 wasn't COMPLETELY heinous.  At 164, maggots are gagging.

Posted by: pep at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (T6t7i)

326 I hope Mueller investigates Skip for blowing the damn margins.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (Bd6VC)

327 (Helping Gramps out of the outhouse)

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:36 PM (yUKyn)

328 No, IG will cough up a FISA report at some point - problem might be that the unclas part will be 4 pages, and the classified part 382 pages. Related, how about the IC IG investigating this absurd, worse-than-bad-Hollywood-script-writing shenaigans in the IC, especially involving Brennan? They were at the center of this from the beginning.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2018 12:37 PM (QDnY+)

329 320 Someone hates us... nude Lena Dunham pics? I ain't clicking on that.

Lena Dunham is sick in the head no matter what she weighs.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2018 05:36 PM (oVJmc)

I was just saw that and decided I was not going to click.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 12:37 PM (a0IVu)

330 Could be worse..could be Yoko nude photos.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 12:38 PM (a0IVu)

331 I have litigated against attorneys from both Harvard and Yale and fortunately prevailed every time. Hard work goes a long way over prestige. When I sat for the Massachusetts Bar, the women next to me from Harvard Law got up halfway through the exam and ran out crying. She never returned. On the other hand, I do work with a woman who graduated from Harvard after a tour as a skipper on a Coast Guard Cutter in the Northern Arabian Gulf (PATFORSWA). She is excellent, but that's because of her military background.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2018 12:38 PM (ATVNj)

332 I can't get enough of libs talking about the conspiracy to put Kavanaugh in a seat. The story is that Kennedy would only step down if he could pick his successor. And Trump dealt with him on that basis. That's it. They're layering it with detail. And gasping over it, but that's it. Nothing in the Constitution says the nominee has to be the President's own idea, nothing says it can be part of some kind of deal. The president has the power to appoint. Period. But they're "investigating" it. Posted by: Axeman They act like it's the first time someone suggested their own replacement.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 11, 2018 12:38 PM (Bdeb0)

333 Suborning perjury usually only applies to attorneys --- dude is all over the place with his terms...intimidation, subborning perjury...whatever.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at July 11, 2018 12:38 PM (FOPyv)

334 Lena Dunham is sick in the head no matter what she weighs.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2018 05:36 PM (oVJmc)
I was just saw that and decided I was not going to click.



Pussy.

Posted by: That guy who pokes dead bodies with a stick at July 11, 2018 12:39 PM (T6t7i)

335 No, IG will cough up a FISA report at some point - problem might be that the unclas part will be 4 pages, and the classified part 382 pages. Related, how about the IC IG investigating this absurd, worse-than-bad-Hollywood-script-writing shenaigans in the IC, especially involving Brennan? They were at the center of this from the beginning. Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2018 05:37 PM (QDnY+) We now know with certainty that any IG report, regardless of its actual content, will be utterly useless for any practical purpose. It's time for Trump to simply shut this farce down.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:39 PM (yUKyn)

336 Mueller's actual job is to keep the Trump administration from being able to charge anyone in the Obama administration with crimes - by claiming it to be obstruction of Justice if they go after any of the Dems. Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2018 05:34 PM (W5V/X) --- How did that evil ax-grinding a-hole even get a second life in DC is beyond despicable. Too useful an idiot.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 11, 2018 12:39 PM (oFsfu)

337
Not sure if I am imagining things, but was Melania's dress see thru.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 12:39 PM (r+sAi)

338 Of course, conveniently, "makes the FBI/DOJ look bad" is exactly synonymous with "National Security."

Posted by: Gramps, in the outhouse at July 11, 2018 05:33 PM (yUKyn)


Not quite.  FISA involves NSA and CIA which have nothing to do with the DOJ and carry the highest classifications.  It would take years to investigate them and nothing uncovered would ever be released to the public.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 12:39 PM (UBzPO)

339

Mrs Branadstetter at the library is holding key evidence on PDT. Forty years...FORTY YEARS he has been holding "The Red Badge of Courage" and hasn't returned it. Overdue fines about equal all of the Trump fortune.
Convenient that.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 05:27 PM (0tfLf) 


You heard Mueller is hiring and you want a job, right? 

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 12:39 PM (UsCnO)

340 Numerous SCOTUS justices, I assume, only voluntarily retied because they were confident that they would be replaced by a like minded individual. This is a stupid nothing story.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 11, 2018 12:39 PM (fYi9j)

341 They act like it's the first time someone suggested their own replacement. Posted by: wrg500 at July 11, 2018 05:38 PM (Bdeb0) --- It's like they think not telling the exact truth is some sort of crime or something.

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 12:40 PM (vDqXW)

342 327 No, IG will cough up a FISA report at some point - problem might be that the unclas part will be 4 pages, and the classified part 382 pages.
Related, how about the IC IG investigating this absurd, worse-than-bad-Hollywood-script-writing shenaigans in the IC, especially involving Brennan? They were at the center of this from the beginning.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2018 05:37 PM (QDnY+)

The table of contents would even be redacted.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 12:40 PM (UBzPO)

343 This is intolerable. Disembiggen! The Croatian PM gave Trump a soccer jersey before the match and posed w/ it giving it a thumbs up. The Brits were not amused, as they say (story in DM). Behold the power of Trump. Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 05:25 PM (a0IVu) The Midas touch.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2018 12:41 PM (+lOpA)

344 329 Could be worse..could be Yoko nude photos. Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 05:38 PM (a0IVu) "I know, right?!" - - decomposing Helen Thomas

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2018 12:41 PM (VM6ev)

345 Question: If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's outrageously perjurious IT guy this hard, instead of gifting him with get out of jail free immunity cards, what might he have disclosed about Hillary's and her lawyers' orders to him? You're a funny guy, Ace.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2018 12:41 PM (8kkL4)

346 They act like it's the first time someone suggested their own replacement.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 11, 2018 05:38 PM (Bdeb0)


I've been thinking there was a deal ever since he announced his retirement and not once had it occurred to me that THAT would be the scandal.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 12:41 PM (UBzPO)

347 Could be worse..could be Yoko nude photos. Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 05:38 PM (a0IVu) Please, don't give anyone any bad ideas. I'm actual am off tonight and want to enjoy the ONT.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 11, 2018 12:42 PM (oFsfu)

348 "Question: If the FBI had really squeezed Hillary's outrageously perjurious IT guy this hard, instead of gifting him with get out of jail free immunity cards, what might he have disclosed about Hillary's and her lawyers' orders to him?" ----------- It's all known just not admissible because Clinton.

Posted by: Decaf at July 11, 2018 12:42 PM (Mymqt)

349 Table of [Redacted]

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2018 12:42 PM (vDqXW)

350 Dunham will be staring in a new horror movie called Phatula.


Posted by: Under Fire at July 11, 2018 12:42 PM (r9UYA)

351 I can't get enough of libs talking about the conspiracy to put Kavanaugh in a seat.

The story is that Kennedy would only step down if he could pick his successor. And Trump dealt with him on that basis.

That's it. They're layering it with detail. And gasping over it, but that's it.

Nothing in the Constitution says the nominee has to be the President's own idea, nothing says it can be part of some kind of deal. The president has the power to appoint. Period.

But they're "investigating" it.
Posted by: Axeman

They act like it's the first time someone suggested their own replacement.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 11, 2018 05:38 PM (Bdeb0)



Maybe they made a deal-deal, being Republicans and all.  Happens all the time.

Posted by: Crapgame at July 11, 2018 12:42 PM (QLvwG)

352 Not quite. FISA involves NSA and CIA which have nothing to do with the DOJ and carry the highest classifications. It would take years to investigate them and nothing uncovered would ever be released to the public. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 05:39 PM (UBzPO) Geez, a guy can't even get up a good cynicism nowadays. The table of contents would even be redacted. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 05:40 PM (UBzPO) Ah. That's better! Skol, BiNO!

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:42 PM (yUKyn)

353 OT/ A special edition of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is on tonight on "This" or "Movie" channel. It's a version with extra scenes that was not shown in the theater. OTA, so you don't need cable.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 11, 2018 12:43 PM (p9qVR)

354 You heard Mueller is hiring and you want a job, right? Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 05:39 PM Resume is ready! I was Pre-Law for one semester. I can do it!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 12:43 PM (0tfLf)

355 They act like it's the first time someone suggested their own replacement. Like Obama campaigning for Hillary, you mean?

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2018 12:43 PM (8kkL4)

356 The story is that Kennedy would only step down if he could pick his successor. And Trump dealt with him on that basis. ' They don't even seem to realize what an incredible insult that is to Kennedy, to suggest he would take part in a scheme like that. We may have disagreed with Kennedy's judicial temperament at times, but there is no doubt in anyone's mind that Kennedy has always been a deeply honorable man. But here the left is painting him as being at the heart of a conspiracy that would cut to the heart of our constitutional system. Now just to be clear, after he announced his retirement he lobbied for the choice of one of his former clerks. (Kethridge was a former clerk as well) Like most SCOTUS justices, he was very close to and supportive of his former clerks. But that happens every time a Justice retires, and is absolutely nothing new or remarkable at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 12:43 PM (k1TUh)

357 Lena Dunham -- oatmeal in a garbage bag.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2018 12:43 PM (+lOpA)

358 People reading The Comments on a phone are unhappy campers at the moment, I'd guess.

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:44 PM (yUKyn)

359 https://tinyurl.com/ycv2jsj4

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2018 12:44 PM (r+sAi)

360 The people he contacted complained to the FBI that Manafort was suborning perjury. Manafort knew full well what he was doing. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 11, 2018 05:30 PM (so+oy) First did they give him and his lawyer the list of witnesses? Second, who said, the ever honest FBI?

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 11, 2018 12:44 PM (J70i0)

361 OT/ A special edition of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" is on tonight on "This" or "Movie" channel. It's a version with extra scenes that was not shown in the theater. OTA, so you don't need cable. Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 11, 2018 05:43 PM (p9qVR) so G A F F C is played for 20min over and over again instead of 5min?

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 11, 2018 12:44 PM (oFsfu)

362 I'm starting to not give two shits about Paul Manafort. He sounds like an asshole...and might not deserve what he's getting. But, I'd be lying if I didn't say I love when assholes receive disproportional karma. It's part of the risk of being an asshole.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2018 12:44 PM (hJ4YM)

363 Worst pics I've ever seen are from the reality show Skin Tight. It's about people who have had a alauick and dramatic loss of weight and are left with a whole lot of stretched out skin. Googling before and after pictures of Skin Tight is only for the morbidly curious.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 11, 2018 12:44 PM (N4pek)

364 >>Not quite. FISA involves NSA and CIA which have nothing to do with the DOJ and carry the highest classifications. It would take years to investigate them and nothing uncovered would ever be released to the public. The FBI and thus the DOJ has already been implicated in FISA abuse. Go read Judge Collyer's now declassified ruling from last spring.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2018 12:45 PM (/tuJf)

365 If Washington had half the interest in cleaning itself up that it has in keeping Trump from cleaning it up, we'd be a much healthier country.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2018 12:45 PM (oVJmc)

366

 

RBG hung on too long because she wanted the first female president to replace her

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 11, 2018 12:45 PM (10vO4)

367 "Still a political prisoner. Held in solitary confinement while Imran Awan walks free." ----------- The FBI is not there to uncover crimes, it is there to protect the Dems from the wrong kind of peasants.

Posted by: Decaf at July 11, 2018 12:46 PM (Mymqt)

368 Dunham will be staring in a new horror movie called Phatula.


Posted by: Under Fire at July 11, 2018 05:42 PM (r9UYA)


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The FUPA that ate Cleveland.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2018 12:46 PM (pw+jk)

369 RBG hung on too long because she wanted the first female president to replace he

Yup, the Dems are in their present pickle because her ego overrode all other considerations.  Nonetheless, they idolize her.  Go figure.

Posted by: pep at July 11, 2018 12:46 PM (T6t7i)

370 nood

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 12:46 PM (a0IVu)

371 The FBI and thus the DOJ has already been implicated in FISA abuse. Go read Judge Collyer's now declassified ruling from last spring.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2018 05:45 PM (/tuJf)


No doubt.  But you'll never convince me that CIA/NSA wasn't involved as well.  We just haven't heard anything about that.  You can't investigate FISA without getting deep into natsec territory.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 11, 2018 12:46 PM (UBzPO)

372 Lena Dunham has always looked like she is possesed by multipe demons. I see why burning witches was the best way of handling these things for 1000's of years.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 11, 2018 12:47 PM (of+54)

373 Feels like NOOD spirit . . . Dossier Roulette! YOU get a dossier! And YOU get a dossier! And YOU! YOU get a dossier!

Posted by: filbert (remote location #3827) at July 11, 2018 12:47 PM (yUKyn)

374 [/stretch]

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2018 12:47 PM (+lOpA)

375 They act like it's the first time someone suggested their own replacement. Posted by: wrg500 at July 11, 2018 05:38 PM Get anyone to tweet something odd. get someone else to send it to the media...throw in a breathless talking head with flashing under screen writing and now you have a story!!! Film at 11!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2018 12:48 PM (0tfLf)

376 It is really a good thing that IG report finally went public. It really had an impact.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 11, 2018 12:48 PM (roQNm)

377 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2018 05:43 PM (k1TUh) The point though is even if Trump did convince Kennedy to retire with a guarantee to pick someone he was amenable to, it's not illegal. I don't think it's even unethical.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 11, 2018 12:48 PM (J70i0)

378 there was some college psych study ... students given power over other students ... they seemed to enjoy the abuse, power made them push it beyond limits.

Power corrupts ... we (raised as Christians, taught virtures, etc)  can hardly imagine Nazi war crimes, or the abuses of MS-13.  But the dark side of culture, for the not so well-raised especially, gives a grotesque power hungry abuser ... Hillary, Mueller ... the whole gang.  Power -- Control ... an opiate.  I think they Can't stop, especially now that they are deep into organized crime, globalist overthrow of America ... there is really no going back now. 

They are drooling over the idea of deplorables being beaten in the streets ... they salivate when the violence of some softball shooter or guy breaking Rand's ribs ...and MFM is feeding that ... trying to get a violent breakout from their lower ranked minions ...

it will fail on the street level imo, but at the Mueller levels it is ongoing.  Cops standing down for antifa and BLM ... room to riot?  Really?  The left has no other escape ... at this point, cornered animals.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 11, 2018 12:50 PM (bT8Z4)

379 margins blown big time @ Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2018 05:22 PM (pHfeF)

Posted by: heads up at July 11, 2018 12:51 PM (BVthB)

380 371 Lena Dunham has always looked like she is possesed by multipe demons. I see why burning witches was the best way of handling these things for 1000's of years.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 11, 2018 05:47 PM (of+54) 

 

Sometimes the old ways are still the best ways.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2018 12:51 PM (UsCnO)

381 that letter at Skip's link is SOOOOO Fing stupid

Posted by: Captain Cuck [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 11, 2018 01:00 PM (rf8q9)

382 It is really a good thing that IG report finally went public. It really had an impact.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 11, 2018 05:48 PM (roQNm)
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give it another #twoweeks


Posted by: Captain Cuck [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 11, 2018 01:02 PM (rf8q9)

383 Trudeau Defies Trump at NATO Meeting, Cuts Military Spending https://tinyurl.com/y8ke3wqc Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's like Dunham acting all "Oh, so you think I look better just because I lost some weight?? I'll show you! I'm going super-fat, you sexist!"

Posted by: David at July 11, 2018 01:11 PM (/qEW2)

384 I know this will be willowed, but, what, exactly is Manafort's crime? Misstating assets and debits is a crime worthy of imprisonment? John Corzine walks free.

Posted by: Blake - used elite salesman at July 11, 2018 01:12 PM (qC1Sy)

385 The Croatian PM gave Trump a soccer jersey before the match and posed w/ it giving it a thumbs up. The Brits were not amused, as they say (story in DM). Behold the power of Trump. Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 11, 2018 05:25 PM (a0IVu) ..... I want them to win. And then I want them invited to the White House.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 11, 2018 01:20 PM (PeR6h)

386 Mueller should retire in order to spend more time with his thumbs

Posted by: x at July 11, 2018 01:24 PM (nFwvY)

387 Well I understand the nude Lena Dunham pics. Her friend Taylor Swift figured everyone would go blind seeing them and fail to notice the Nudes of Taylor in the background. Pretty clever, plus she also figured that anyone who did notice her would think she looked like a Norse goddess in comparison.

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at July 11, 2018 01:27 PM (W5V/X)

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