August 31, 2010

Bumped: Grassroots Organization... For Morons
— Ace

A guest post by Michael Smith of Heritage Alliance.

I asked Michael Smith to write us up a guide to organizing before the election. He'd offered advice in this area before, and I thought I should take him up on it.

Below, his essay. It's a great, detailed DIY guide to local organizing (and local insurgency). A lot of people like to blog or comment because they feel they don't have a voice in our actual politics; I know that was the main reason I started.

But, for those with a bit of social agility and talent for organization (and if you haven't tried, maybe you have that talent but don't know it yet), there is a more tangible way to have a real voice in politics.

I know that if morons here were well-represented up in NY-23 we never would have had to learn to spell the name "Dede Scozzaflava" or whatever the hell it was called.

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Grassroots Organization... For Morons

by Michael Smith,
Heritage Alliance.

Nolan Ryan used to annoy sports reporters because every time they'd ask him the same mindless pre-game question they ask all the other players ("What's it going to take to win tonight?"), he'd give the same answer: "The key to winning this ball game is to outscore the opposition."

Now that conservatives have been throwing rallies, renting billboards, and crashing town halls for 18 months, they're coming to realize that by 7 p.m. Nov. 2, what counts is how many votes they've put on the board.

How to get votes? Organization. When it's done right, it wins elections--and it's just about the only way to beat an incumbent.

More importantly this season: While felons and Democrat election officials can steal a close one, they can't beat a blowout. We need a blowout.


Organizing voters simply means having the names and contact information for, and communicating with, people who vote like you in your area. That area can be as small as your block, precinct, state legislative district, or U.S. Congress district--whatever you think that you, as an activist, can handle.

But why bother? Especially if you live in a safe GOP district, or the opposite--one designed as a corral for Democrats. Either way, can you hope to move the needle?

Damn the torpedoes! Choose from any of the following valid reasons to organize:


* Small numbers can swing primaries, when only 10 percent of registered voters show up.

* Are all your representatives--state house, state senate, U.S. Congress--solid conservatives? Nothing can get them voting right faster than the knowledge that somebody is organizing voters in their district. If they don't, the primary is their term limit. (And, as Ace noted recently, the primary is where personnel changes must be made. By general-election time, the choice is often between meh and bleah.)

* Many states (such as Texas, where I live) need to build a big state-house majority for redistricting. Since 2006 they've suffered with Democrats in seats that had always been "safe" Republican.

* There's no guarantee that the Republican who replaces your Democrat this November won't turn RINO. More on that later.


But let's look at how organizing benefits you personally.
When you have a list of 50 registered voters and a means of staying in touch with them, you become a big deal in the eyes of elected officials, and to the party. They know that when they talk with you, they're essentially talking with a whole bunch of voters who respect you as a leader. To politicians, you become Mr. Bloc O'Votes. In another time, they would be lighting your cigars for you.

Fortunately, we don't live in those times, so gathering the information you need to become Mr. O'Votes isn't nearly so hard as it once was.

You no longer have to walk around the neighborhood knocking on doors, although that may help. In my state, you can get a CD full of voter information with an online form and a fee somewhere between $0.0005 and $0.00000625 per voter. (In a typical suburban precinct that would cost $105.86 including the basic service charge.)

However, your county party already has that CD and might just parcel out a chunk of it to you free if they believe you're serious about organizing. Activist groups do this, too. My employer, Heritage Alliance, organizes conservative voters in Texas, and we're always looking for people to dedicate a few hours up front, and a few throughout year, to organize their block, precinct, or state house district. We already have the list.

Once you have your copy, the next step is to identify the "right" voters--the ones who vote like you. Your list probably includes individual voting records--which party primary they voted in, and how many times they've done so. You want the ones called "1R," "2R," and "3R"--they voted in the GOP primary once, twice, or three times over the past three election cycles. They are among that 10 percent who matter.

Now that you have the information, the next step is to decide whether to grow your comfort zone, or continue sitting on your ass in front of a computer all day: You must actually talk to those voters.

Since you have names and addresses, you can probably find phone numbers for half of them using online directories. The dwindling number of households with land-line telephone service limits this, of course. Still, it's worthwhile, because every voter you get in touch with by phone is one less you have to track down on foot.

(Remember, you only care about registered voters. People who haven't bothered to register don't understand the value of their vote, and they're likely to be the kind who expect others (i.e., the government) to take care of them. Deal only with the registered voters. As Scott Rasmussen said recently, "The people who ultimately vote decide everything.")

Build your list according to your abilities. If you're a techie, you can create a database. Most Morons could work from an Excel spreadsheet. AOL-types can print it out and use pencils.

Set a voter-organization goal for yourself. I suggest between 25 and 50 voters. To start, take a guess at how many neighbors on your block vote the way you do. Extend that out geographically until you get your number--you can count the houses on a Google map. Then start calling the voters within that area.

Call your 3Rs first and tell them you're building a neighborhood voters' association, and you have a one-minute survey. Ask a few qualifying yes/no questions, such as, "Do you think taxes and spending must be reduced to save our economy?" and "Should gay marriage be legal?" You want people of conviction, not mavericks looking to preen.

When a voter passes your test, ask for his e-mail address and phone number. Tell him you'll be in touch with him with more information, and set yourself a deadline for following through.

If you don't hit your goal using just the 3Rs, go to 2Rs and then 1Rs. When you run out of phone numbers you may have to go knocking on doors. A smile and a stain-free shirt help. Also pants. Clip your library card or something to your pocket so you look official. Use breath mints.


Next, perform a valuable service for the voters you have organized. Look up the various deadlines (ballot-by-mail for the seniors; voter-registration deadlines in case someone's kid just turned 18; and the hours and dates for voting) and get a map of where the precinct-house is. E-mail or print-and-deliver this stuff to them. They will consider you a good citizen, someone they can get behind, even if they already know this information. In closing, ask them to help you stay on top of who's moved into the neighborhood and might be a good prospect for your organization.

By this point you should come up with a simple name so your group has a handle. From a marketing standpoint, I suggest nothing radical or offensive (not everyone shares your interest in Hannah Giles), but rather a fairly generic name that says what you are: "Valley View Voters Assn." is fine, and as long as you don't give money to candidates, you don't have to incorporate or file any reports. You can write a short statement of principles--shorter is better--like, "To restore the Founders' values in government," so everybody knows you're not socialists.

There are a million ways to communicate with and among your group members, and you have probably already thought of creating an e-mail list, Yahoo! Group, or Facebook page.

The cool thing about getting this far is, you have already just boosted voter turnout in your precinct significantly. The 1Rs and 2Rs, just by virtue of having attention paid to them, will move up to 3R status in short order, and no one will want to miss an election.

The next thing to do is help your voters decide whom to vote for. My organization builds a voter guide for every primary and general election. This takes many man-hours, and the instant a dollar is spent all kinds of 501(c)(4) or PAC regs come into play. So either refer your people to someone else's guide, or go huge and incorporate.

You could leave it right there and just give your "organization" a little push once in a while. There may be municipal, bond, and school-board elections in the odd years or on odd dates. In these and in runoffs your group will have a heightened profile, because turnout is always abysmal.

Then there are the primaries, where your people can provide the margin to choose between a RINO and a Bachmann. (As note above, by the General Election, the choice is often limited to bad vs. worse, when there's any choice at all. Primaries are where the action is.)

When Congress and your state legislature are in session, you can watch what other organizations (pro-life, 2nd Amendment, taxpayers, etc.) are responding to, and activate your voters in support. Bill numbers, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses for your neighborhood's legislators are a valuable service you can provide. If you can stomach it, subscribe to "progressive" activist groups' e-mail alerts; they will already have done all the work gathering contact/bill information for you to pass on to your group to express the exact opposite opinion and thwart them.

And as hinted above, if any of your reps don't play nice, your group can pose a serious threat in the next primary. Forget "Remember in November"; it's the primary, stupid.

Don't ask me if this works. Ask NRA. Better yet, ask John Dingell (D-Michigan). NRA scared the crap out of him years ago in the primaries, and now he knows what they want before they say it. NRA has the advantage of a hot issue dear to many people, but this year, so do all conservatives: Pelosi-Reid-Obama.
Also, Bob Kasten famously proved the value of grassroots organizing (pp. 110-111). Outspent by two primary opponents 19-1 and 10-1, he beat them both, then went on to win a U.S. Senate seat. From then on, establishing vote goals precinct-by-precinct became known as the "Kasten Plan." (Kasten famously lost when he decided not to use the technique in a race for governor.)

Why don't more candidates and organzations do this? Probably because it's kind of messy. You have to deal with real people, and a few of them can be ornery and ungrateful. Politicians especially tend to prefer the fundraiser crowd--the muckety-mucks with excellent table manners whose company makes the candidate feel pretty special. They've built a whole game around this dollars-and-media campaign style, talking up their war chest in the months leading up to the filing deadline, so as to scare off regular people who can barely imagine themselves running for office, let alone winning.

Also, the consultants don't make much money organizing grassroots. They prefer big budgets and some rather incestuous relationships with media buyers, printers, and other vendors that grassroots campaigns put far less emphasis on.


Why should we do this?

There's an old saying about trying the same thing over and over, hoping for a different result.

So let me restate the question: How many more times can we "throw the bums out"? The bums keep coming back. Since the Contract With America expired, we've been worse off than ever.

Our reaction this time must be profound, and it helps to look that word up: descending or being far below the surface. The left is already profound.

In the latter half of the 20th century we all got accustomed to certain major establishments being owned by the left. Education, media, mainline churches, philanthropic foundations--along with anything in D.C. that starts with "Department of." They are fashionably leftish in worldview and resistant to any other influence.

Now that mindset "owns" Congress and the White House. And we're threatening, once again, to throw the bums out. Why do we think it will work this time?

The solution is to make conservatism what liberalism has been since William F. Buckley first identified it way back in the early '50s: The dominant, ingrained, institutional ideology that no one can defeat.

It won't happen by just putting conservatives in charge, because the good ones never last and the rest buy into the system. It won't happen through laws and amendments because the left just gets around them. It has to be the product of a large number of people working consistently over time. And if that sounds daunting, remember that, working as a team, we don't have to do very much work.

Ask any legislator: Fifty voters get his attention through phone calls and e-mails, and a number that small can even sway his vote on a bill. Those same 50 voters, connected to 50 more in adjacent precincts, can swing the primary.

Your little band of organized voters can make their will known. If the lawmakers resist, your same group can replace them in the primary, when they're most vulnerable.

It comes down to will.

Will you?

Posted by: Ace at 05:00 AM | Comments (170)
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1 Just one second! I that that we were all talk and no action on this blog?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (formerly NJConservative) at August 30, 2010 09:56 AM (LH6ir)

2 Not a big fan of lists. I think I'll stick with the donation, yard-sign, bumper sticker and haranguing of everyone in earshot.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 30, 2010 09:57 AM (I+0qc)

3 * Are all your representatives--state house, state senate, U.S. Congress--solid conservatives?

I'm not sure. One is supported by the Tea Party which appear to be jacked up hippie retreads that want to legalize dope.

Posted by: Barbarian at August 30, 2010 09:59 AM (EL+OC)

4 Could someone summarize that for me in one snarky remark?

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2010 10:00 AM (xtAfO)

5 Do everything ACORN does, except legally and with real people.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 30, 2010 10:01 AM (I+0qc)

6 We need more feasting on the lamentation of the women in this post.

Posted by: Penfold at August 30, 2010 10:01 AM (1PeEC)

7 Finally!

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 30, 2010 10:01 AM (IkEhE)

8 A smile and a stain-free shirt help. Also pants.

F*ck you!

Posted by: Envirotard in a crab suit at August 30, 2010 10:03 AM (poAzP)

9

Have at it, folks, and you have my thanks.

For my household, my deep-blue liberal wife and I have a Mutual Assured Destruction policy not to contribute or volunteer on either side.

But I am way more looking forward to November than she is.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 30, 2010 10:03 AM (SCcgT)

10

I think I'll stick with the donation, yard-sign, bumper sticker and haranguing of everyone in earshot.

 

I like haranguing.  It's what I do best.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 10:03 AM (vMfkE)

11

tell everyone you see to vote ...  they'll figure out who to vote for on their own ... 

we need I's to vote not just R's ...

 

 

Posted by: Jeff at August 30, 2010 10:04 AM (A3tpD)

12 OT:  It seems Obama is riding a gurls bicycle now.  The picture on Drudge sure looks like it.  I am suprised it doesn't have training wheels.  How wreckless!

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at August 30, 2010 10:04 AM (nRF6+)

13

A smile and a stain-free shirt low-cut blouse help.

Taking one for the conservative team!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 30, 2010 10:05 AM (pLTLS)

14 They left out the important tip of urging Demotards to get out and vote on November 3.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2010 10:06 AM (BP6Z1)

15 Obama is, what my bro-in-law would call, a sissy-boy.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 30, 2010 10:07 AM (WF5bO)

16 1. Buy Val-u-rite
2. Round up Hobos
3. ??
4. Win!

Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2010 10:09 AM (GwPRU)

17 What's strange is that people who I know that never vote can't wait to draw their voting swords this Nov.  Some of my friends who have been staunch liberals are getting really really tired of trying to actually live according to liberal ideals.  They're pissed.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 10:09 AM (vMfkE)

18 Fucking great post.  Nice job, Mike.

Posted by: someone at August 30, 2010 10:10 AM (DfAwB)

19 This kind of GOTV activismn is a real pain in states where they don't have registration by party.  Believe me.

Posted by: jeannie at August 30, 2010 10:10 AM (GdalM)

20

You left out the first (and most important sentence) for us Morons.

Start with copious amounts of Valu-Rite vodka.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2010 10:10 AM (kFODZ)

21

A smile and a stain-free shirt low-cut blouse help.

Would you believe...a low-cut blouse and no pants??

 

Well, thank you, Mr. Smith, for the advice so carefully calibrated just for us.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 30, 2010 10:11 AM (XdlcF)

22 A very good read.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 30, 2010 10:11 AM (FkKjr)

23 A smile and a stain-free shirt help. Also pants. Clip your library card or something to your pocket so you look official. Use breath mints.

Wow.  He really is talking to us!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 10:11 AM (5aa4z)

24 This is a valuable post. Is there room on the side for a permanent link?

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2010 10:11 AM (FcR7P)

25 The Alvin Greene Manifesto is out.

Posted by: Cheech Marin at August 30, 2010 10:12 AM (9cflz)

26 "The Alvin Greene Manifesto" should be a band name.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 30, 2010 10:13 AM (I+0qc)

27 Fuck all that. I'll just do what's been working for me: buying the Irish vote with cheap booze and threatening the Chinamen with beatings if they don't vote for Empire Hall.

Remember, a vote for Jeff is a vote to keep your teeth and not piss blood.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 10:14 AM (W9m/i)

28 16 katya    President Sissy boy? 

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at August 30, 2010 10:14 AM (nRF6+)

29

He really is talking to us!

It's so nice to be <sob> understood.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 30, 2010 10:15 AM (XdlcF)

30 Remember, a vote for Jeff is a vote to keep your teeth and not piss blood.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 03:14 PM (W9m/i)

Have we met, cocksucker?

Posted by: Al Swearingen at August 30, 2010 10:15 AM (BP6Z1)

31 A smile and a stain-free shirt help. Also pants. Clip your library card or something to your pocket so you look official. Use breath mints.

Wow.  He really is talking to us!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 03:11 PM (5aa4z)

Best not to use the "membership" card to the local strip joint or that hilarious FBI (Female Body Inspector) card that you carry. Might scare away the older folks.

Posted by: ErikW at August 30, 2010 10:15 AM (jXyj0)

32 YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THOSE GRASS ROOTS FROM UNDERNEATH IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR ME, MOTHERFUCKER!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 10:16 AM (W9m/i)

33 thanks for reposting this to here, ace.

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I can attest to the value of a small group and its disproportionate influence a group of legislators.  I ended up getting a definition of a key term in a state law changed.  That change affected about 125,000 people - and the whole time I was fighting the established advocacy groups who wanted to play by "the rules"

That took place over the better part of two years with lots of opportunities to say "fuck it" and play golf.  I was so burned out by the time the final sessions were being held, that I almost didn't drive to the Hearings to testify because I had an intense "what's the point?" bout of depression.  Plus it was gray and drizzly and a couple of hours drive to the hearings.

But, decisions are made by the people who show up. 

Two months after givving testimony I got a call from a friend who said "Holy shit, they put your change in!"  -- I checked, and,  so they did.

Huzzah.

I spoke on behalf of about 72  people who agreed with my recommendation.  It didn't cost me a dime, other than for gas and tolls.  I sunk about 500 hours of time into the project over those two years.  And there was no guarantee of success at any point along the path.

and the fight isn't over.  But I'm a hell of a lot smarter about state representatives than I used to be, how bills become laws, how to frame your issues for legislators and their staffs, and how to put some urgency into the issue.

-

I have fun posting here, but, having read that article, I figure there's work to be done.  Me and Hadji the Muslim Comic will be taking a break for a bit - see if we can't get Pat Toomey elected.

.





 


Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 30, 2010 10:17 AM (Hj0nA)

34

katya    President Sissy boy? 

Right up there with President Toonces.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 30, 2010 10:17 AM (WF5bO)

35

No in all seriousness you do have to look very presentable to even get a foot in the door. Unless you want to talk to Crazy McScrewballPants that just wants to talk to anyone about anything.

The last thing any of us want is strange people knocking on our door. You'll assume Jehova's Witness (NTTIAWWT, well,  actually....back to the issue) and be inclined to shove the door in their face.

We had some guys during the Obama campaign that looked so damn frightening we almost called the cops. And me, not converse in mumble, couldn't communicate with them that they needed to promptly get the hell off my property.

For me, it really wasn't change I could believe in.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 30, 2010 10:17 AM (pLTLS)

36 O/T:  Ace, Hannity just opened his show with the most chilling recording I've ever heard.   Apparently he is receiving death threats.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:17 AM (p302b)

37

not everyone shares your interest in Hannah Giles

Then  they are not now and never will be part of my social circle.  I may be a moron but I have my standards.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2010 10:18 AM (pvIfl)

38
that we were all talk and no action on this blog?

Don't forget, we scorn anyone smarter than us, too.  Cuz y'know, we're all hicks 'n stuff.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:20 AM (fx8sm)

39 39 These days, who in broadcast--especially on our end of the spectrum--doesn't get death threats?  (Answering my own question:  Folks nobody watches or listens to...)

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 30, 2010 10:21 AM (IkEhE)

40 Just all of you wait. Heh, heh.  We're having a big dance in the WH on Nov 1 to bring out the big vote.  And we're going to be on TV too.  Michelle's going to enter the first annual "pig-out" competition to appeal to all fat voters.        

Posted by: Barak "King Hussein" Obama at August 30, 2010 10:21 AM (vMfkE)

41 though, my first bit of republican advocacy was when good friends of mine stopped by - they were in the neighboorhood posting signs for the local dem candidate for State House.

I gave them beer, ordered a pizza, and then had them drink more beer until they decided to just go home with a trunk full of Marjorie Margolies Mezvinsky signs.

The republican candidate won by a narrow margin.

Sometimes the key to winning a battle is to not fight at all.

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 30, 2010 10:21 AM (Hj0nA)

42 Remember, a vote for Jeff is a vote to keep your teeth and not piss blood.

Well, you've lost our support.

Posted by: American Association of Masochists and Emo Self-Cutters at August 30, 2010 10:22 AM (poAzP)

Posted by: Cheech Marin at August 30, 2010 10:23 AM (9cflz)

44

The last thing any of us want is strange people knocking on our door. You'll assume Jehova's Witness (NTTIAWWT, well,  actually....back to the issue) and be inclined to shove the door in their face.

We had some guys during the Obama campaign that looked so damn frightening we almost called the cops. And me, not converse in mumble, couldn't communicate with them that they needed to promptly get the hell off my property.

For me, it really wasn't change I could believe in.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 30, 2010 03:17 PM (pLTLS)

A chick in a low cut top and a miniskirt would probably ensure that they don't think you're a JW and keep the door from being slammed. 

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 10:23 AM (oVQFe)

45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbIM0mSRkBk&feature=player_embedded#! 

smile

Posted by: skr8 outta at August 30, 2010 10:24 AM (icVev)

46 Have we met, cocksucker? Posted by: Al Swearingen at August 30, 2010 03:15 PM (BP6Z1)

Let's see. Do you:

Have a dark, spreading stain on the front of your trousers?

Have a hard time deciding between playing dead or looking around for escape route?

Stink of fear?

If you answered No to the above questions and are of Irish or Chinee ancestry, I'd say ye haven't, boyo. Please leave your contact information.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 10:25 AM (W9m/i)

47 Lastly, if you're going to volunteer, understand that you're an indian, not a chief.  (to be un-PC).

By the time you've gotten involved, chances are there is a strategy in-place. 
Do what you can to help enact that strategy.

Helpful people - the ones who tell  you how'd they do it, if they were doing it - suck. 

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 30, 2010 10:25 AM (Hj0nA)

48 Remember, a vote for Jeff is a vote to keep your teeth and not piss blood.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 03:14 PM

Whoooo are Yew?  Whoooooooooo are Yewwwwwwwwwwwwwww?

Posted by: Bob Etheridge (D umb) at August 30, 2010 10:26 AM (yQWNf)

49
I'm offering $100K for Ace sex tape.

Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 10:26 AM (uFokq)

50 As Bugs Bunny would say: " what a maroon!"

Posted by: Greaser at August 30, 2010 10:26 AM (J7yLU)

51
I'm offering $100K for Ace sex tape.


NOOOOOooooooooooo!!!

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:28 AM (fx8sm)

52

 Ace, Hannity just opened his show with the most chilling recording I've ever heard.   Apparently he is receiving death threats.

 

Hannity has been getting those for years.  Same as Beck.  Makes one wonder the type of threats Rush gets on a daily basis.  Scary.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 10:28 AM (vMfkE)

53 All snark aside, thanks for putting this up for the benefit of us morons, Ace. Permanent linky please?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2010 10:29 AM (kFODZ)

54 I'm offering $100K for Ace sex tape.
Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 03:26 PM (uFokq

For that I will even eat his pancakes. What format do you want the video in?

Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:29 AM (Q1lie)

55

>> Unless you want to talk to Crazy McScrewballPants that just wants to talk to anyone about anything.

 

What?  I combed my hair.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 30, 2010 10:30 AM (WvXvd)

56 Hannity  is on at 6.

Posted by: Tommy Chong at August 30, 2010 10:30 AM (9cflz)

57 I've got $200 to have that tape burned.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 10:30 AM (W9m/i)

58
Hannity  is on at 6.

Umm, yeah.  He does a radio show in the afternoon.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:31 AM (fx8sm)

59 9

Have at it, folks, and you have my thanks.

For my household, my deep-blue liberal wife and I have a Mutual Assured Destruction policy not to contribute or volunteer on either side.

But I am way more looking forward to November than she is.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 30, 2010 03:03 PM (SCcgT)

My lip would bleed from the biting. (In the restraining my self sense)

Posted by: Randy at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (zQKSr)

60 I've got $200 to have that tape burned.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2010 03:30 PM (W9m/i)

I'll pay $20.00 for somebody to have at my eyeballs with an icepick.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (5aa4z)

61 57 I'm offering $100K for Ace sex tape.
Posted by:
Joe at August 30, 2010 03:26 PM (uFokq

For that I will even eat his pancakes. What format do you want the video in?

Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 03:29 PM (Q1lie)

Is wicket in the corner in a gimp mask?

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (oVQFe)

62 I want to ride my bicycle I want to ride my bike I want to ride my bicycle I want to ride it where I like You say coke I say caine You say John I say Wayne Hot dog I say cool it man I don't wanna be the President of America You say smile I say cheese ...

Posted by: President "Pedals", humming to himself at August 30, 2010 10:33 AM (FcR7P)

63

 

I gotta get myself organizized.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 30, 2010 10:34 AM (QMtmy)

64 I've got $200 to have that tape burned.

I'll pay $20.00 for somebody to have at my eyeballs with an icepick.


Okay but first I have to have sex with with him and record it.

Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:34 AM (Q1lie)

65 Some of my friends who have been staunch liberals are getting really really tired of trying to actually live according to liberal ideals.  They're pissed.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 03:09 PM (vMfkE)

Be sure to point out the hypocrisy of the left every chance you get. Especially mister "We can't eat what we want, drive what we want, use air conditioning  and expect the rest of the world to be okay with that."

Posted by: Randy at August 30, 2010 10:34 AM (zQKSr)

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:34 AM (fx8sm)

67

Be sure to point out the hypocrisy of the left every chance you get. Especially mister "We can't eat what we want, drive what we want, use air conditioning  and expect the rest of the world to be okay with that."

Posted by: Randy at August 30, 2010 03:34 PM

Well I can..... because I ONE bitches!

Posted by: Preznit Tricycle at August 30, 2010 10:36 AM (yQWNf)

68 I'm willing to distribute the walking-around money.

Posted by: toby928 at August 30, 2010 03:34 PM (S5YRY)

I am the bag man..I am walrus...coo-coo-keechoo!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 30, 2010 10:36 AM (Q1lie)

69 He is playing it again

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:36 AM (p302b)

70 Are you guys gonna build a grow house?

Posted by: Cheech Marin at August 30, 2010 10:36 AM (9cflz)

71
You know why I'm offering this?

Because my colleague at the now defunct Air America, in collusion with the Huff-n-Puff Po, is offering $100K for a Glenn Beck sex tape or anything that destroys Beck's character.

Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 10:36 AM (uFokq)

72

70
What Ace's sextape might look like.

I see no visual evidence of any junk

Posted by: kilgore at August 30, 2010 10:36 AM (VurUc)

73

I'm offering $100K for Ace sex tape.

 

Nothing but the best for us morons.  (sheesh!)

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 10:38 AM (vMfkE)

74 Fuck that, fuck all that shit!

I contacted my county level GOP representative and got laughed at like a lunatic!

Keep Walking on Sunshine
, you over-confident prick!

Honestly, I cant tell which interests me more...

Noting the inevitable decline of a great Republic or ensuring the specific demise of one particular jack-hole.

He really was an aggressive asshole.

Too bad, he is like 12 years old, and takes Facebook postings' like gospel.

You can't even ENGAGE people like this...

They are ALIENS and they have our number...





 

Posted by: Deety hating Dotty lines at August 30, 2010 10:38 AM (aVzyR)

75

I see no visual evidence of any junk




Kinda like a stuffed animal?

Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 10:38 AM (uFokq)

76 Because my colleague at the now defunct Air America, in collusion with the Huff-n-Puff Po, is offering $100K for a Glenn Beck sex tape or anything that destroys Beck's character.

Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 03:36 PM (uFokq)


okay now wait a minute. You're doubling up? It's 100K a piece, no quantity discounts.

Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (Q1lie)

77
When you mention Grassroots Organization for morons.
I was thinking Val-U-Rite and passing out at a city park.
Before noon of course.

Posted by: YIKES! at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (WHRS/)

78 great info, thanks Ace!

Posted by: mim/ginaswo at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (GMlZJ)

79 Hannity is on in the afternoon.  On wabc new york.  Here is the link.
you then click on "listen live".

You have to hear this tape.  It is wholly frightening

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:41 AM (p302b)

80 A extra little tip for organizing conservatives. When you knock and they ask what you are doing don't say "I'm a Community Organizer. You know like Barack Obama."

Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:42 AM (Q1lie)

81 I wouldn't offer a hundred grand for ace's sex tape, it's a waste of money, just use your imagination, think of ace doing everything out of the box like he always does and you have it, for free, in your mind.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:43 AM (p302b)

82 I'LL GET MOST OF YOU POSTERS HERE! YEAH TRY ME ASSHOLES!!!

Posted by: i'm making threats! F-YOU! at August 30, 2010 10:43 AM (icVev)

83

Seriously, you do want to look presentable, but don't overdress.  That comment about looking like a JW is spot on.  If you're walking around in a suit, or slacks, dress shit and a tie, you're turning people off.  Golf shirt tucked in or bowling shit, khakis, and comfortable shoes are the way to go.  Nice casual or whatever the fuck that's called.  

At least half of the people won't answer their doors.  You can hit 150 doors a day if you push it, and you'll be lucky to talk to 35 people.  It can be frustrating, and it can wear you out fast.   

Some people are going to want to talk.  While it's nice to find people of like mind, you don't have time for in-depth discussions.  Get their contact info and move on. 

While it might be fun to find a libtard who's ready to do battle, you don't have time for in-depth debates.  Move on.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 30, 2010 10:43 AM (fLHQe)

84 I wouldn't offer a hundred grand for ace's sex tape, it's a waste of money, just use your imagination, think of ace doing everything out of the box like he always does and you have it, for free, in your mind.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 03:43 PM (p302b)


Wow I hadn't really thought of it that way. Sorry the deal is off. Now how do I get it out of my mind?

Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:44 AM (Q1lie)

85 In some places if you ring someone's bell or knock on their door.  If they answer they are carrying a shotgun.  But in major cities you will just scare the heck out of them cause they will look out the window and not see brown, or fed ex, or the police and then refuse to open the door.  It will be a waste of time.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:44 AM (p302b)

86 Hannity must be a playback of a recording in  my market.

Posted by: Cheech Marin at August 30, 2010 10:45 AM (9cflz)

87
I see no visual evidence of any junk

Sad, ain't it?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:46 AM (fx8sm)

88

You have to hear this tape.  It is wholly frightening

 

Read an article on American Thinker about the threats black gangs and groups have been making and carrying out in places like the Iowa state fair.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 10:46 AM (vMfkE)

89 Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 03:44 PM (Q1lie)

I loled cause I could see ace, preparing to film a sex tape, disappointed...

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:46 AM (p302b)

90 Summer Snapshots: Look at the hands. Putin is perfectly at ease with whatever that weapon is. Toonces, the Leader Of The Free World, is terrified to be on pavement without his training wheels.

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2010 10:47 AM (FcR7P)

91
think of ace doing everything out of the box...

Wait. Are you telling me Ace thinks he's a cat and he poops in a box? Kinky.

Posted by: Joe at August 30, 2010 10:47 AM (uFokq)

92
I loled cause I could see ace, preparing to film a sex tape, disappointed...

Hell yeah disappointed.  You know how much Valu-Rite and low-carb beef jerky that could buy?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:47 AM (fx8sm)

Posted by: Cheech Marin at August 30, 2010 10:48 AM (9cflz)

94
... Ace thinks he's a cat and he poops in a box?

I honestly had no idea Ace was so... German.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:48 AM (fx8sm)

95 "Read an article on American Thinker about the threats black gangs and groups have been making and carrying out in places like the Iowa state fair."

hey, hey....whoa whoawhoa....im making the threats here you little shit...

Posted by: i'm making threats! F-YOU! at August 30, 2010 10:48 AM (icVev)

96 Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 03:46 PM (vMfkE)

the caller on the tape hannity is playing seems to be a middle aged white woman. (but you can't tell from voices, could be black or another color) but her voice makes you think "middle aged white"

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:48 AM (p302b)

97 I wouldn't offer a hundred grand for ace's sex tape, it's a waste of money

True.  It would probably just be a link to HotAir, anyway.

Posted by: CUS at August 30, 2010 10:50 AM (wOGfT)

98 now if we could just convince sarah palin to have a sex tape find its way to the media or to run around all day without undergarments and accidentally have the paparazzi take a pic of her getting into a car....then you'd have a bona fide American celebrity and a presidential candidate for sure.  Even peres would have to cover it...

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:50 AM (p302b)

99 This guide must be fake - I noticed nothing in it about putting on a sheet and riding around the countryside.

Posted by: Your MFM at August 30, 2010 10:51 AM (poAzP)

100 Nosedive     -115.65  (-1.14%)

Off 121 now. 

Posted by: CUS at August 30, 2010 10:51 AM (wOGfT)

101 Excellent article. Thanks.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 30, 2010 10:51 AM (WZFkG)

102 Great info!  But there's one more benefit I'm not sure you covered - When an Republican squeaks by in an election or two, there is a normal tendency to "vote his district", and throw a bone to the 49% that voted against him by voting for some POS bill that is popular with the liberals in his district.  If the grassroots can't primary him out, they can at least push him across the line with a little more breathing room (say 55% instead of 50.2%).  You'd be amazed at the change you can effect, when a politician catches on that he doesn't have to patronize to the left to get re-elected.

Posted by: Vitalis at August 30, 2010 10:51 AM (UcYLJ)

103
Nosedive     -115.65  (-1.14%)

Yes, but what does the Intrade Troll® have to say about this?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:52 AM (fx8sm)

104 Don't forget to cut some eyeholes in your sheet.

Posted by: Zombie Kleagle Byrd at August 30, 2010 10:52 AM (9cflz)

105 Nosedive     -115.65  (-1.14%)

Posted by: DJIA at August 30, 2010 03:48 PM (S5YRY)

We've shoved the car into (D), only to read the owners manual to find out that (D) stands for Depression.

Posted by: Cicero at August 30, 2010 10:53 AM (QKKT0)

106

the caller on the tape hannity is playing seems to be a middle aged white woman. (but you can't tell from voices, could be black or another color) but her voice makes you think "middle aged white"

Probably some horny, frustrated little grandma who ain't getting it from grandpa anymore. 

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 10:53 AM (vMfkE)

107 Who would threaten Hammity?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 10:54 AM (9cflz)

108 My friend wants to make a home made ghost costume for her kid and believe it or not she is having a tough time finding a plain white sheet.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:54 AM (p302b)

109 #104

But he can do it twice in the span of a few minutes...just look at all of the double posts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (formerly NJConservative) at August 30, 2010 10:54 AM (LH6ir)

110 114 Who would threaten Hammity?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 03:54 PM (9cflz)

It wasn't just hannity.  They said they had "silenced liz cheney and dick cheney" and that they were "looking forward to rush dying of a heart attack" and "hannity's headset exploding" and they said they "knew where they all lived".

I'm still sick after hearing it.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:55 AM (p302b)

111 My friend wants to make a home made ghost costume for her kid and believe it or not she is having a tough time finding a plain white sheet.

Gimme a call.  I got a bunch up in the attic.

Posted by: Zombie Robert Byrd at August 30, 2010 10:55 AM (wOGfT)

112 White sales are so racist.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 10:55 AM (9cflz)

113 Yes, but what does the Intrade Troll® have to say about this?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 03:52 PM (fx8sm)

Screw that.  I'm long on beans, bullets, and bullion.

Posted by: InTrade Troll at August 30, 2010 10:56 AM (5aa4z)

114

Yes, but what does the Intrade Troll® have to say about this?

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 03:52 PM (fx8sm)

John Ryan is off in his fantasy world about ducks dying by eating lead shot, Rasmussen being the last poll to have McCain leading, and claiming that seeing black people at a polling place is what scares us.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 10:56 AM (oVQFe)

115 114 Who would threaten Hammity?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 03:54 PM (9cflz)

One of those tolerant nonviolent liberals.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 10:57 AM (oVQFe)

116 I bet Rush has some over the top security.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 10:57 AM (9cflz)

117

 My friend wants to make a home made ghost costume for her kid and believe it or not she is having a tough time finding a plain white sheet.

 

How big is the kid?  Maybe a pillowcase would do.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 10:58 AM (vMfkE)

118 The pink berets are coming for you.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 10:58 AM (9cflz)

119
What's this?

Howie Carr is saying Ed Shultz had a fit (behind the scenes) at MSNBC.

Is this old news? Any one have any 411 on this?

Posted by: mr magoo at August 30, 2010 10:58 AM (uFokq)

120 "seeing black people at a polling place is what scares us.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 03:56 PM (oVQFe)"

you know my middle class, educated black friends are starting to get really annoyed.  theya re thinking everything they have worked so hard to achieve is being ruined by a "bunch of idiots".  Haven't yet had the courage to ask them to name the "bunch of idiots" but they started saying this sunday after the sharpie rally.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:59 AM (p302b)

121 Just want to point out that existing organizations of like minded folk are a really good place to start - gun store/ranges/shoots, church, list of licensed contractors & holders of small business permits, etc. Also a hot local issue is a good place to start - versus discussing SCOTUS nominees.

Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 10:59 AM (CPefM)

122 Cartman switched from a Hitler costume to a sheet for PC purposes.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 10:59 AM (9cflz)

123 Why does she think all ghosts are white?

Racists!!!

Posted by: Gay Al Sharpton at August 30, 2010 11:00 AM (BP6Z1)

124

"How big is the kid?  Maybe a pillowcase would do.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 03:58 PM (vMfkE)"

he's like 4...the pillowcase idea is great I just passed it on to her and she is thrilled cause it will mean less work.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:00 AM (p302b)

125 He could stay home and go as the recovery.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 11:01 AM (9cflz)

126 WEEEeeeeeee

Posted by: DJIA at August 30, 2010 11:02 AM (wOGfT)

127 They said they had "silenced liz cheney and dick cheney" and I'm pretty sure threatening the life of an ex-VP gets you a looksee

Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 11:02 AM (CPefM)

128 hahhaha another lib/dem friend wanting to come and look at the blog cause of the brilliance of the pillowcase idea.  She ordered a set of two pillow covers in white and keeps wondering to herself why she didn't think of that.  I pointed out that the idea of community, even if on a blog, is so that others can help you pick up the slack....i think she got it.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:02 AM (p302b)

129
okay new post raisin bran

Posted by: mr magoo at August 30, 2010 11:03 AM (uFokq)

130 I doubt they threatened Cheney in person and lived.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 11:03 AM (9cflz)

131 "135 They said they had "silenced liz cheney and dick cheney" and I'm pretty sure threatening the life of an ex-VP gets you a looksee

Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 04:02 PM (CPefM)"

Jean I almost threw up my lunch that is how sick hearing that made me and it would have made me just as sick if they substituted dem/lib names in there too...it just was horrifying.

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:04 AM (p302b)

132 They have blogs on everything. Even raising hogs and wheat.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at August 30, 2010 11:04 AM (9cflz)

133 ;">I've attended a few tea parties in my area - couldn't go to the one here last Saturday.  I love to meet people and talk to them, not usually about politics, but I did so at the tea parties I attended, and many told me they did not vote in the last election, but were going to do so now.  I also see a lot of that on the local boards I participate in online. 

I CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM MY HOUSE!

Posted by: TheresaD(who loves to shout BOOBIES!) at August 30, 2010 11:04 AM (K9XK2)

134 jean, you should email hannity and tell him to send the tape to the FBI, that was brilliant on your part....

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:05 AM (p302b)

135

"How big is the kid?  Maybe a pillowcase would do.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 03:58 PM (vMfkE)"

he's like 4...the pillowcase idea is great I just passed it on to her and she is thrilled cause it will mean less work.

 

My good deed is done for the day.  Now I can get mean.

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 11:05 AM (vMfkE)

136 I really want well established conservative organizations to help kick start the self-organizing grassroots by sending out an opt-in note to lifetime or long-term member for a local list - say the other lifetime members of the NRA in a 1mi radius. Even if that list is shadowed thru an NRA email server; so we can self-organize.

Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 11:06 AM (CPefM)

137 I don't know why my text is blue, or WTH that silly smilie is doing there. The site has been acting weird for me lately. 

Posted by: TheresaD(who loves to shout BOOBIES!) at August 30, 2010 11:06 AM (K9XK2)

138 I'm going to smoke a cigarette   -140.70  (-1.39%)

Posted by: DJIA at August 30, 2010 04:04 PM (S5YRY)


I didn't think anyone could go down faster than me.

Posted by: You New jersey Prom Date at August 30, 2010 11:07 AM (wOGfT)

139

Good article.

Aside from inherent laziness and disorganization there's the fact that my district is 80% Dem.  There's zero chance even a RINO Republican primary winner could win a seat in the general. 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2010 11:07 AM (plsiE)

140 These days, who in broadcast--especially on our end of the spectrum--doesn't get death threats? (Answering my own question: Folks nobody watches or listens to...) Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 30, 2010 03:21 PM (IkEhE) These days? I got death threats back in the 90's for writing a college editorial. Of course, it was on the south side of Chicago and about how terrible Jesse Jackson is. Hmmm... The Left is always willing to kill. That's sort of the running theme of the Left throughout human history.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 30, 2010 11:07 AM (WZFkG)

141 I've already pissed off every libtard in my husband's family.  I smell their desperation and it fuels me.

Oh, and low-cut blouses and sweaters.  I'm on that.

Posted by: King Barry at August 30, 2010 11:08 AM (UOM48)

142

Who would threaten Hammity?

Same kinda folks on HuffPO who were offering a reward on any nasty tapes, pictuers etc that could be found on Beck to "Remove him from the scene once and for all."

I swear, liberals are either crazy, stupid or demonic. 

Posted by: EZB at August 30, 2010 11:08 AM (Ty06w)

143 #150  LOL.  Stupid sock.  And yet, somehow it fits.  Barky in a v-neck sweater wearing a doofus bike helmet. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2010 11:09 AM (UOM48)

144 curious - USSS, I just forwarded it to man myself. I'm sure Dick gets a hundred threats a month. You should see all of the crazy shit that hits DC inboxs; even obscure offices that do nothing controversial get some ugly correspondence.

Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 11:09 AM (CPefM)

145

BiW,

 

Is that you?

Posted by: TGSG at August 30, 2010 11:10 AM (11Q7a)

146 Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 04:09 PM (CPefM)

Jean it truly made me ill.  But, oddly enough when I heard the woman threatening liz chency, I haven't been big on her and I thought to myself "for her to engender this kind of a reaction from the left, maybe I ought to take a second look at her"

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:11 AM (p302b)

147 Wasn't Crazy Ed Schultz invited to participate in race-baiting Al Sharpton's rally?  Because I'd love to see the vid.  I'm sure it was made of all kinds of awesome.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2010 11:12 AM (UOM48)

148

Aside from inherent laziness and disorganization there's the fact that my district is 80% Dem.  There's zero chance even a RINO Republican primary winner could win a seat in the general. 

 

But these are extrordinary times.  Consider the fact that many dems are participating in the tea party movement.  Ya' never know. 

Posted by: Soona at August 30, 2010 11:14 AM (vMfkE)

149 hollowpoint, you can always vote with your feet or go subversive and join the local resistance.

Posted by: Jean at August 30, 2010 11:14 AM (CPefM)

150 I'm beyond fed up with many conservatives I know who, when you invite them to join our tea party, or even come to an event, are like, "Umm, errr, well, you know I would, but I've got to umm, alphabetize my spice cabinet this weekend.  But good luck, because I'm scared to death for my country, and we have to win in November, blah...blah...blah."  Get off your asses and help, dammit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2010 11:17 AM (UOM48)

151 "alphabetize my spice cabinet this weekend"
Jane, I was looking for a lame excuse not to do something this weekend...thanks...

Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:23 AM (p302b)

152

Ooooh. Les Philips. Likey.

And your spice cabinet isn't alphabetized now? Cretins.

Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2010 11:27 AM (18UKv)

153 I'd like to add a suggestion - if you live in a safe House district, consider picking a district from our list of 89 vulnerable Dems, and adopting that Republican challenger. We need all you Southern and Western morons to help out our Midwest and Northern brethren.

Posted by: motionview at August 30, 2010 11:39 AM (zRbkQ)

154

hollowpoint, you can always vote with your feet or go subversive and join the local resistance.

Yeah; not a real good time to sell a house.  I still vote R, but for the most part it's a symbolic gesture during non-Presidential election years.  Certainly not worth the effort to help decide who the losing Republican will be.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2010 11:40 AM (plsiE)

155 149 Given the numbers, that's ironic--if it came straight up us vs. them with no raging mobs, well, they'd sorta be screwed...but that's why they whip up the mobs.  Easier to hide behind 'em, no risking your own neck.

Trouble being, when those mobs get out of control.  Ask Robespierre how that works out...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 30, 2010 11:42 AM (IkEhE)

156 Do I have to read and follow that whole thing?  Seems much easier in the day where a couple of kegs and a walk to the polls was so much easier.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 30, 2010 12:03 PM (c3i/K)

157 Pretty funny makin' fun of that funny soundin' ferin name. You really live around greater NY? Don't believe for a minute you'd have the brass to go around talking like that a lot of places in NY. Citrullo.

Posted by: noce sacco at August 30, 2010 01:49 PM (Qc93O)

158 This is how my state delegate election turned out in '08...

Rep _3,885 (24.6%)    
Dem 11,892 (75.3%)

We're gonna need a mighty big wave to overcome that.


Even if I got 50 other motivated morons in my county to canvas for votes.  We'd likely only be able to wrestle up an additioanal 2500 votes in a best case scenario.


So depressing.

Posted by: Smapty at August 30, 2010 02:31 PM (bAySe)

159 nice post!

Posted by: Rocksalot at August 30, 2010 06:13 PM (IaEEk)

160 Thanks for this post from Michael Smith, Ace. This is what keeps me coming back to Moron Central: information dumbed-down to my level of understanding. With some gratuitous Moron-ish lines thrown in, just to keep me awake.

Posted by: K~Bob at August 30, 2010 08:09 PM (9b6FB)

161 I need an iPhone 4 Converter software to convert DivX videos to iphone format. Come to AVI to iPhone 4 Converter, MPEG to iPhone 4, MKV to iPhone 4, iPhone 4 Converter for Mac Guide on how to copy dvd to ipad.have a try it.

Posted by: letitbe at August 31, 2010 12:28 AM (86PrP)

162 Holy spam, batman!

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2010 05:04 AM (poAzP)

163

" the choice is often between meh and bleah "

HEY NOW!

 

Posted by: John McLame at August 31, 2010 05:06 AM (clHyC)

164 More bumping these days than a bikini model trapped in a warehouse of dull razors.

Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at August 31, 2010 05:14 AM (gQLr2)

165 Well Gerry,

thanks for playing. If you live in a gerrymandered district, you're a neighbor of a less gerrymandered district - do some advocacy there.

If you're in a hopelessly blue district, adopt a purple district and try to turn it red.

Do something.

To consider persons and events and situations only in the light of their effect upon myself is to live on the doorstep of hell.
Thomas Merton

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2010 05:30 AM (Hj0nA)

166

Gerry, I make that point in my talks with GOP and Tea Party groups: Don't waste time and effort trying to elect a Republican in a Democrat district. It's the proverbial square peg.

By some estimates, 85 percent of districted seats (state and Congressional) are decided in the primary; the general election is a foregone conclusion.

However, organized primary voters can replace a 90 ADA Democrat with a 60 or 70 ADA Democrat who at least votes right on critical issues. Even the threat of a primary challenger can push the 90 Dem toward the center.

And in GOP districts, a RINO can be ousted in the primary by organized, conservative voters.

That's because only 10 percent of registered voters show up for primaries. Organize just 1-2 percentage points, and you tip it.

Posted by: Michael Smith at August 31, 2010 05:32 AM (niGh7)

167 Gerry - there's a group of people that consider the real-world experience of experts only in light of their superior knowledge and theoretical understanding of the problem. 

They do this rather than accepting at face value the hard won expertise being shared.

You seem to be one of them.

The biggest group of these people that I encounter with this trait are the "Parents without Progeny" - these are the people who extol on all issues of child-rearing without having gone to the trouble of having, you know, kids.  

The second biggest group like this are the guys sitting at the Gas-n-Sip on a Saturday night talking about girls.

Michael took the time and trouble to layout some plans on how to accomplish something, based on having actually done something. 

I hope ace bumps this several times -
morons like we am need several repettions.

-

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2010 06:08 AM (Hj0nA)

168 nope, Gerry, never met the man.

Your entree into the thread:

Sorry, Mikey - all the information gathering in the world can't beat gerryandering - I wasted a couple of minutes skimming that advice - and that's it for me.

Would that that were true.   Unnecessary condescension in the salutation, mischaracterization of the point of Michael's post,  admission that you didn't read the piece, and a lack of realization on your part that fifty people can have an effect on a state representative, if not the Congressional one. 

Unless you think that you're the sole conservative in your district. 

Enjoy your solitude. 

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2010 11:19 AM (Hj0nA)

169 4 Dr Spank: Could someone summarize that for me in one snarky remark?

Posted by: Rich Rostrom at August 31, 2010 08:06 PM (08gNw)

170 4 Dr Spank: Could someone summarize that for me in one snarky remark? "The votes are in the precincts." - Robert Heinlein in Take Back Your Government, written in 1946 after over a decade of heavy involvement in California politics (as a Democrat - he got better). It was published in 1992 at the instance of Jerry Pournelle. Much of the advice above echoes Heinlein's. One of his points was that if you make a point of being informed about all the obscure races on the ballot, a lot of your acquaintances will rely on you for advice on those races. Thus you will have several dozen "votes in your pocket" - and the insiders will start treating you with respect. But his mantra - repeated over and over again - is that election success depends on finding the voters that support your candidate, and getting them registered and getting them to vote. You find them by canvassing - ringing every doorbell, and talking to every household. Don't argue with those who are hostile; don't harangue the swing voters. Just be polite, track who is sympathetic, and make sure they vote.

Posted by: Rich Rostrom at August 31, 2010 08:16 PM (08gNw)

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