January 30, 2006

Brownback May Have, Or May Not Have, Referred To Gays As "Fruits"
— Ace

Referring to gay marriage in Sweden, he quoted Matthew "Ye shall know them by their fruits." The Rolling Stone reporter interviewing him thought he was making a joke; he says he wasn't, just quoting the Bible.

"Fruits." That's such an old-school put-down it's practically new-school.

I like how put-downs go in cycles. "Hump" and "tool" were old; then they kind of became cool again, just because no one was saying them. (Except for 60 year old alkies at the BPOE, but who listens to them.)

"Douchebag" seems very played. "Jagoff" seems like it's ready to come back into style. Ten years ago, you couldn't give jagoff put-downs away. Now maybe they're priced right for a big gain.

These are the things I notice.

I am not an intelligent man.

Posted by: Ace at 09:36 PM | Comments (46)
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1 There's a 'Brownback Mountain' joke in there somewhere, but I just can't get it to fit...

Posted by: See-Dubya at January 30, 2006 09:50 PM (YgHc3)

2 CW...

Something like...

"I wish I knew how to quit your banana!"

See..its a "fruit" talking about a "fruit" in a "fruity" movie.

It works on so many levels while not working on any at all!

Spurwing taught me how to do that.

Posted by: Jack M. at January 30, 2006 09:53 PM (YpIcX)

3 Actually, "Jagoff" is indeed back in style again, but I don't rightly know how it was originally used.

Nowadays it is used in the "fuck off" type of verbiage when someone doesn't want to curse.

How was it used back in the olden times?

Posted by: JL Mould at January 30, 2006 10:25 PM (5EON0)

4 Or how about "I used to fuck guys like you in prison"?

Wait, that was Roadhouse. My bad.

Posted by: Sean M. at January 30, 2006 10:27 PM (EHzws)

5 Yeah, I just started hearing "jagoff" in the late nineties or so. I am not familiar with the etymology there. I always thought it was just a euphemism for "jack off", which is odd, you know , calling someone a verb, and an intransitive one at that.

Posted by: See-Dubya at January 30, 2006 10:30 PM (YgHc3)

6 Pretty sure I recall hearing "quit jacking off" which transmogrified into "you jackoff" in the 70s. In both cases it referred to one who was not with the program.

Posted by: geoff at January 30, 2006 10:34 PM (vpYuK)

7 Damn, I feel young.

Even my etymology is way before its time.

Goddamnit. Mom, give me my burping and pacifier. I'm done.


Much better. Ni'ni, all.

Posted by: JL Mould at January 30, 2006 10:43 PM (5EON0)

8 "Guttersnipe" has always been a personal favorite. Still waiting for that one to come back.

Posted by: Oscar Wilde at January 31, 2006 01:00 AM (8dJDM)

9 No doy.

Posted by: Suede Pumas at January 31, 2006 01:05 AM (LIXDd)

10 Ace, regretfully I have to take issue with you on the word "Douchebag". This term of derision is one of the hardy perennials of our language, and covers a wide range of interpretation.

Honor the language Ace, don't abandon its best elements in the interest of trendy modernism.

Posted by: Enfant Perdu at January 31, 2006 01:51 AM (7eWUN)

11 The link in your story says Matthew 7:16, the link in my coverage was Matthew 7:19, there might be some hidden message in the inversion of 6 and 9.

BTW, it's really Matthew 7:20 that comes closest to his comment.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at January 31, 2006 01:51 AM (AlU3k)

12 6 versus 9. How numerological. I always suspected AoSHQ was a hotbed of Straussianism.

Posted by: Jacarutu at January 31, 2006 02:28 AM (4jESY)

13 Butt munch
Fart knocker

These have kind of lost their flare. But one that will always be there, ready when you need it: Dingleberry. It's insulting yet can be used by kindergarteners through senior citizens alike.

As for the Brokeback Mt. thing, "Orange you glad I put it in your ass again?!"

Or there's a hemmorhoid joke about a bunch of grapes, if you want to go there.

Posted by: compos mentis at January 31, 2006 03:15 AM (xHpUK)

14 Heck, he could have called them homosexicals.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at January 31, 2006 03:25 AM (X7uuV)

15 RWS - LOL. Should we worry about you? I ain't never been to Africa. I've been to Louisiana.

Bulldiger? W. T. F. ?

Posted by: compos mentis at January 31, 2006 03:30 AM (xHpUK)

16 I see you tomorrow with my tools, Fuckface!

Posted by: PabloHoney at January 31, 2006 03:33 AM (3ca75)

17 Jagoff has been around since the 1950s.

Posted by: M.S. at January 31, 2006 03:37 AM (D90f7)

18 "Gayzer" was popular when I was a kid.

How did that stupid European term "wanker" become popular here in America? I blame the Internet.

Posted by: Bart at January 31, 2006 03:44 AM (8X2Ys)

19 I think "douchebag" is timeless, and applicable in many situations. I'm hoping "scrotsack", "shitbird", and "choad" catch on in common usage. (not sure if I spelled "choad" correctly.)

Posted by: UGAdawg at January 31, 2006 03:55 AM (wJxri)

20 Looks like the Dems are trying to blackmail a supposedly 'gay' Republican Senator.
The original blackmail post is here.
DailyKos weighs in.
JPod first here then a second time.
Then RedState has a big thread.

Posted by: Otho Laurence at January 31, 2006 03:57 AM (R9O/9)

21 'Asshat' came on strong around '99 but has started to flame out in my opinion. Currently I'm pushing for 'fartknocker' and 'brown boy', with 'bone smuggler' a possible upset candidate. 'Choad' is in the same category as 'grogan', always popular with an underground crowd, but unlikely to make a breakout.

I should warn everyone that I've already twice heard 'brokeback' used as an an adjective, as in "Is there some sort of 'brokeback' situation going on with you guys?"

Posted by: Tom at January 31, 2006 05:13 AM (89h2e)

22 Also, one of my personal favorites just because of the sound of it, though it's not rough enough to catch on with the kids: 'shitheel'

Posted by: Tom at January 31, 2006 05:15 AM (89h2e)

23 Has "fudgepacker" ever gone out of style? I think not.

Posted by: Feisty at January 31, 2006 05:27 AM (C0zdP)

24 Shitheel is good. I'm also laughing my ass off at the Jerky Boys reference up there.

I like the word turd. "Check out that dude. Pure turd."

I also enjoy odd combinations. "Ah shit, I just broke the damn thing! Son of a fuck!" "Hold on, I'm coming soon as I get this motherassed shoe on my foot."

Posted by: The Warden at January 31, 2006 05:30 AM (Zxtyv)

25 When I was a kid, dress shirts had a little loop at the back of the collar that had no known function. We called them "fruit loops," and any guy who wore a shirt with a fruit loop could plan on getting pounded during recess.

Ah, the carefree days of youth.

Posted by: utron at January 31, 2006 05:39 AM (CgIkY)

26 compos mentis,

Worry about me? Certainly not. I may be conservative but I am fun, fun, fun!! I'm funny too! Really. In real life! No matter what some stupid study says.

That link made me laugh so hard my dog ran up to see if I was ok.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at January 31, 2006 05:52 AM (X7uuV)

27 Looks like the Dems are trying to blackmail a supposedly 'gay' Republican Senator.

It doesn't seem to be going over that big among the more sane moonbats though I'm sure the DUmmies just love it.

Posted by: shawn at January 31, 2006 05:58 AM (D90f7)

28 "Fruit loops" are definately grounds for a schoolyard beating. In my day we called them "fag tags". I miss being young.

Posted by: john(lesser) at January 31, 2006 06:00 AM (VGsts)

29 Now that they've been off the air for years, I have found that a little Beavis & Butthead evokes fond feelings among other thirty-somethings. I had great success with "Buttpipe" at a dinner party recently.

In related news, you guys should really see "The Aristocrats". Can't believe Bob Saget was allowed to work with children all those years...

Posted by: Rob at January 31, 2006 06:05 AM (BFtAQ)

30 O.T.: It's done. Alito's in. I can't wait to see him and Mrs. Alito at the SOTU speech tonight. Up yours, moonbats.

Posted by: shawn at January 31, 2006 06:10 AM (D90f7)

31 A common name for homos in the 40-50s was queers. Fruits was a derogatory for Calilfornia, you know 'the land of fruits and nuts'.

Posted by: docdave at January 31, 2006 06:17 AM (d34xq)

32 I can't believe we're letting a Rolling Stone writer tell us what a state Senator meant. What ever happened to actually asking the person what they meant and taking their word for it? I'd believe a senator before I would a journalist.

I bet the guy from RS was a tart.

Posted by: Pixelflash at January 31, 2006 06:36 AM (O+1/6)

33 "motherfumpin' " always smoothed over a particularly rough term, and had the benefit of mixing the worst part of the word with a safer alternative.

"Christ on a (stick, popsicle stick, etc.)" was a mere smolder until South Park resurrected it.

Posted by: Tom M at January 31, 2006 06:44 AM (d6bNm)

34 Here is a suggestion for all Senators. Never quote scripture to freakin Rolling Stone Magazine!!!

What an idiotic thing to do.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at January 31, 2006 06:52 AM (X7uuV)

35 Speaking of which, Sparkle, did you happen to see the latest cover of Rolling Stone?

Posted by: lauraw at January 31, 2006 07:03 AM (OfQIJ)

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Posted by: Towelie at January 31, 2006 07:06 AM (5WEQS)

37 I like 'poof' for homosexual men, I don't know if they consider it derogatory or not though.

Posted by: Otho Laurence at January 31, 2006 07:09 AM (R9O/9)

38 peter puffer, stool pusher, john kerry

Posted by: matterson at January 31, 2006 07:14 AM (JEq/F)

39 How about "window licker" for dumbasses? As in "didn't you ride the short bus and lick the windows?".

Posted by: UGAdawg at January 31, 2006 07:45 AM (wJxri)

40 I'm still getting mileage from one I saw years ago... "Rocket Surgeon".

KC Star, discussing the Chiefs Football season, I believe the statement was along the lines of... You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to know you need to score points to win a football game...

Still not sure if it was deliberate, but its one I use regularly for less than clever people (damn Rocket Surgeons).

Posted by: Gekkobear at January 31, 2006 10:16 AM (X0NX1)

41 RWS: that was hilarious! Thanks!

So the Lord Jesus did talk about gays!

Posted by: Muslihoon at January 31, 2006 03:57 PM (Q8UK2)

42 There is actually a badass band from the Southside of Chicago called JaGoFF.

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Posted by: hasta misin at February 21, 2011 08:06 AM (C0YUc)

46 The link in your story says Matthew 7:16, the link in my coverage was Matthew 7:19, there might be some hidden message in the inversion of 6 and 9. ..thanksss

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