November 30, 2006

British Officials Increasingly Certain of Government Cooperation In Litvinenko Poisoning; Speculate About "Rogue Elements" Within Kremlin
— Ace

"Rogue elements" are a nice way to say "We suspect it's Putin, but we can't afford to level such accusations against a nuclear-armed state."

A little preview of what happens when Iran goes nuclear. There will be a lot of "rogue elements" of the Iranian government conducting attacks against America.

British intelligence sources increasingly suspect that Alexander Litvinenko, the former spy killed with a radioactive poison, was the victim of a plot involving "rogue elements" within the Russian state, the Guardian has learned.

While ruling out any official involvement by Vladimir Putin's government, investigators believe that only those with access to state nuclear laboratories could have mounted such a sophisticated plot.

Police were last night closing in on a group of men who entered the UK among a large crowd of Muscovite football fans. The group of five or more arrived shortly before Mr Litvinenko fell ill and attended the CSK Moscow match against Arsenal at the Emirates stadium on November 1. They flew back shortly afterwards. While describing them only as witnesses, police believe their presence could hold the key to the former spy's death.

Last night, the Irish government said it was launching a separate investigation focussing on the former Russian prime minister Yegor Gaidar, who fell ill during a visit to Ireland a week ago. At first Mr Gaidar's entourage thought he was suffering from something he had eaten. But yesterday one of his aides said doctors suspected he had been poisoned.

The Gardaí said it would question everyone Mr Gaidar had been in contact with, but there was no immediate link to the Litvinenko case.

In London the number of locations searched by police for traces of radioactive material rose to 24 yesterday, with polonium-210 found at 12. John Reid, the home secretary, told the Commons there was a "high level" of contamination at some of the locations but the risk to the public was low.

It was reported that the levels of radiation were highest in the toilets of the Millennium Hotel in London, where Mr Litvinenko had a meeting shortly before falling ill. These levels were above the safe public dose limit, according to Channel 4 News. There were also traces at the Itsu sushi bar, where he went later, but they were far lower.


Explaining the increasing belief that Mr Litvinenko's death involved Russian state elements, one official said yesterday: "Only the state would have access to that material".

Posted by: Ace at 05:23 PM | Comments (25)
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1 Is it just me, or does it seem like after the election, all the bad guys think its anything goes?

Posted by: Iblis at November 30, 2006 05:29 PM (r7te+)

2 Shocking. I think I'm getting the vapors. I may need to sit down.

Next I'll be hearing that Russia is blocking common sense resolutions at the UN like condeming Iran for their blatant ignoring of atomic treaties. Worse, I'll be hearing that they are providing assistance to the Iranians in developing nuclear weapons.

Nah, that's just crazy talk, that's what that is. Why the next outrageous statement will be that it's not really a civil war in Iraq but rather a regional war started by Islamic Shia extremists, fueled by the mullahs in Iran with their support of armed militias and terror groups.

Conservatives are nutz.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2006 06:19 PM (t+mja)

3 Alright, two posts in a row about this Russian guy and no one has made a gaydar joke? What's wrong with you people tonight?

Posted by: Scott R at November 30, 2006 06:38 PM (gsHb/)

4 Hey, Gaidar is a lot like Gaydar.


Posted by: random AoS moron at November 30, 2006 06:50 PM (2+/7m)

5 Lookie here. All of the sudden it is a post a minute. Go ahead Ace, humor us. Did your paladin hit level 35 yet? How many hit points do you have? Pick up a Holy Avenger? Had to stay online to talk to a GM because you got ninja-looted?

Posted by: sockpuppet in training at November 30, 2006 07:05 PM (JQFcC)

6 Maybe Ace was with Larwyn.

Posted by: Sinistar at November 30, 2006 07:51 PM (5bI3V)

7 For Tushar.

Scuttlebut is that Emma Watson has held out and turned down Half Blood Prince.

If you look at her "filmography" all of her roles are "herself" except for "hermione granger" but what does she care?

She will probably be a real actress in a couple years when she stars in hardcore anal porn.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 30, 2006 10:40 PM (QTv8u)

8 Is it just me, or does it seem like after the election, all the bad guys think its anything goes?

You're not imagining it.

The lefties pined for the fjords of the 60's, well now they got it and they don't have a fucking clue what to do with it.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 01, 2006 12:02 AM (p9O/F)

9 The Elections = Change = momentary instability and instability = opportunity. Especially in the last 18 years, with the politics of hatred and deliberate conflict being pre-eminent.

Always capitalize on the errors of position.

Of course our enemies are borderline retards, unfortunately they aren't politicians who I think are given bibs and hockey equipment, to prevent them from harming themselves, with congressional insignia embroidered on them, as well as the fact that we elect some of the most well educated retards on the planet to represent us. Truth be told, give me an honest to goodness retard, rather than a politician. A politician is just a retard with a better suit, and less drool.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 01, 2006 12:08 AM (QTv8u)

10 A politician is just a retard with a better suit, and less drool.

WP, you're treading on spurwing's territory there.

Still doesn't make it any less true.

Posted by: michaelt at December 01, 2006 05:19 AM (sMqat)

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at December 01, 2006 05:24 AM (s7Ian)

12 hotair

and keeerist, can we get some good news around here? (faulting world, not ace.)

Posted by: jdubious at December 01, 2006 06:00 AM (6Hjp2)

13 Does everything 80's have to make a comeback? Cocaine, anorexia, the KGB (yes, yes, I know it's not the KGB now but come on)? Every time someone says that Putin is "former" KGB my first thought is "Former? There's nothing former about it."

It's more than a bit frightening how there's no real attempt to cover the tracks. It's as if there's an assumption that nothing will be done about it. Gee, I wonder where that impression could have come from?

Posted by: alexthechick at December 01, 2006 06:20 AM (OdWOg)

14 Director of MI5 'running' spies again? Poison is traditionally not found, it's too hard. Now we find and easily found poison that leads to another not soe easy to find.

British and Russian spies go way back to controlling the British govt with Philby, etc. So, is this the end to another failed operation from MI5?

The planes are really terror. It's possible the agent poisoned himeself as he poisoned others to get even with MI5 or use a plan originally from MI5 that, like the London bombing, no one thought would be carried out, even though, like the London bombing, they were looking for exactly what happened.

Toronto is now looking for 500 people from a club that has one person that had 'menengitis.'

Posted by: at December 01, 2006 06:31 AM (fVMZm)

15 In other news: a Giant.Frickin.Dolphin at Seaworld grabbed the foot of its trainer and decided to give a lesson in 'No means No'.

It was a black and white colored dolphin that went by the name of 'Shamu'

... most people call these critters 'Killer Whales' but the Fox News babe last night made a point of asking the guest - I think it was the Director for the San Diego Zoo where this took place - to clarify whether Killer Whales were actually dolphins. He said they were dolphins.

So the newsbabe then began referring to Shamu the large, toothy black and white animal shown in the video as 'a dolphin'


The San Diego Zoo person went on to point out how the trainer getting nearly killed dead by the Orca was actually a good thing, given the grand scheme of developing the country's animal awareness.



Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 01, 2006 06:46 AM (dTi2n)

16 OH GOD! Not again!!!!

Kill it, KILL IT NOW!

Posted by: Captain Nolan at December 01, 2006 06:58 AM (s7Ian)

17 Do NOT trust mammals that have flippers and lack hair. They abandoned the true "way" ages ago.

Posted by: Charles Darwin at December 01, 2006 09:03 AM (p9O/F)

18 The truth is, dolphins are actually whales. At least, that's what my cousing told me.

I guess a whale is "anything with a blowhole." Feel free to riff on that.

Posted by: cranky-d at December 01, 2006 10:37 AM (1O9mK)

19 Would that the Kremlin would have just put their guy down via a "blowhole" to his head with an ice hammer. I liked things when they were simpler. Those were the days ....

Posted by: monsoon at December 01, 2006 11:30 AM (Fyntg)

20 They've gone high-tech, and now they've created a mess. Indeed, sometimes the old ways really are better than all this new fangled stuff.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 01, 2006 11:33 AM (p9O/F)

21 At this point I'd just like to know how the poor guy really spelled his name.

Some newspapers it is "Litivinenko" with the extra I after the T.

Others it is "Litvinenko".

Must be getting the news from stringers I guess.


Posted by: The Machine at December 01, 2006 03:46 PM (L/jMX)

22 A politician is just a retard with a better suit, and less drool.

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