April 30, 2013

Breaking: American Press to Find New and Inventive Ways to Ignore Major National Security Story
— JohnE.

So, this just happened.

BOMBSHELL: Saudi Arabia warned the United States IN WRITING about Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012, and rejected his application for an entry visa to visit Mecca in 2011

• Saudis developed intelligence separately from Russia, which also warned the U.S. about the accused Boston bomber

• A letter to the Department of Homeland Security named Tsarnaev and three Pakistanis as potential jihadis worthy of U.S. investigation

• Red flags from Saudi Arabia included Tsarnaev's name and information about a planned explosive attack on a major U.S. city

• Saudi foreign minister, national security chief both met with Obama in the oval office in early 2013

For what it's worth, the Department of Homeland Security and the White House are denying this report.

Regardless, this is now out there. One wonders, what exactly, it would take at this point for our media to actually fall back in love with the once celebrated exercise of truth-gathering and shoe leather reporting. Yet again, this comes from the foreign press.

I find it quite remarkable that in the short span of 5 years we have evolved as a country from the era of presidents steering hurricanes to minority neighborhoods with Halliburton-controlled weather machines to the highest office in the land just being too darn complex for any one man to influence inconsequential subtleties like national security and intelligence gathering.

Yet here we are. Even if this ends up proven incorrect, it warrants some initial inquiry by our press, right?

The lead story on NBC News right now is "Poll: Many Americans uninformed about health care overhaul", by the way. Leaked footage from tomorrow's Morning Joe:

Posted by: JohnE. at 08:26 PM | Comments (87)
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1 I feel a disturbance in the Narrative, such as thousands of Journalists carrying in dispair.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 30, 2013 08:31 PM (u82oZ)

2 I am very much sure we'll be told this is our fault.

Posted by: wte9 at April 30, 2013 08:32 PM (6Tcdo)

3 You kinda gotta give them props. Most people would feel somewhat embarrassed if they had their lips securely wrapped around some dude's tailpipe for going on six years.

Posted by: wte9 at April 30, 2013 08:39 PM (6Tcdo)

4 Obama is either a traitor or his administration remarkably incompetent yet nobody in government will call him on it. We will continue to have terrorist attacks and Obama will continue to let it slide.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2013 08:39 PM (INYkK)

5 Forget this silly stuff. 

I want to hear more about Mitt Romney's dog.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at April 30, 2013 08:40 PM (5fSr7)

6 Glorified gossip hounds and busy bodies.

Posted by: H.D.T at April 30, 2013 08:40 PM (BmwyI)

7 "We will continue to have terrorist attacks and Obama will continue to let it slide" ... ... and we will deal with all of this in November 2014. Remember to vote ... and make all of the fools that refused to vote in 2012 vote 'R' this time.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 30, 2013 08:42 PM (9wHyE)

8 Oh, yes. The regular media simply is Pravda Press.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2013 08:42 PM (INYkK)

9

What difference does it make!?!?


 

 

 


if the US media doesn't report it?

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at April 30, 2013 08:51 PM (ZCu9v)

10 Oh, come on. We know the real reason was that the T brothers were just too sexy.

Posted by: Bomber Girls at April 30, 2013 08:55 PM (wsGWu)

11 Shorter MSM: "Oh hey, the White House denied it? Good enough for me! Whoa, what do you mean you want us to investigate? 'Investigate' WHAT??!! Did you not hear the White House deny this story? An anonymous denial off the record from the White House precludes us doing any further digging on this. What the hell is the matter with you people? If you can't trust the White House, who *CAN* you trust?

Posted by: drawandstrike at April 30, 2013 08:58 PM (cKw8v)

12 8 Oh, yes. The regular media simply is Pravda Press.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2013 01:42 AM (INYkK)


===


and you wondered what we won in the cold war.   now you know.

Posted by: jc at April 30, 2013 09:04 PM (PlzOe)

13 Please oh please let the next conservative president issue this demand at all of his press conferences.  "the only allowable questions during my presidency are the questions that you asked the previous president" 

Posted by: LostHusker at April 30, 2013 09:06 PM (ogIxS)

14 Rule #1: Progressives, Liberals, Socialists, Communists, Democrats can do no wrong.

Rule #2: If in some weird,  unlikely, unforeseen way Progressives, Liberals, Socialists, Communists, Democrats actually do something wrong, refer back to Rule #1.

Posted by: Rules for Media at April 30, 2013 09:07 PM (BmwyI)

15

Congress HAS to call for hearings into this. And they'll have  to  make time for  this  while also trying to get  answers on Benghazi  and dealing with  crappy GOP  backed bills (i.e.  amnesty).

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 30, 2013 09:13 PM (KL49F)

16 JASON COLLINS IS GAY!

Posted by: The Narrative at April 30, 2013 09:13 PM (FcR7P)

17 We also find the public's interest in this whole "Beganzi" affair terribly distasteful, and instead, will focus incessantly on the Amazing Economic Recovery Orchestrated by Dear Leader.

Posted by: The MFM at April 30, 2013 09:14 PM (z63Tr)

18 Rule #3: Everything is a Republican's fault.

Posted by: wte9 at April 30, 2013 09:14 PM (6Tcdo)

19 The regular media simply is Pravda Press. Pravda, TASS, Izvestia.

Posted by: t-bird at April 30, 2013 09:15 PM (FcR7P)

20 The fucking R's aren't gonna do anything about this either.Toomey and Rubio are already giving Obama cover. Fuck 'em all.

Posted by: Stalin's Lumpy Boil at April 30, 2013 09:19 PM (yJYwC)

21 When Narrative is more important than Truth, one of the first casualties is the lives of citizens.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 30, 2013 09:37 PM (1zr4/)

22 This will be immediately disproved by our Glorious Press! -Barky Odumbshit

Posted by: Old Dog at April 30, 2013 09:50 PM (tQYJH)

23

as George Takai would say....

 

Oh My!

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 30, 2013 09:52 PM (lZBBB)

24 13 Please oh please let the next conservative president issue this demand at all of his press conferences. "the only allowable questions during my presidency are the questions that you asked the previous president"

Posted by: LostHusker at May 01, 2013 02:06 AM (ogIxS)


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why play the media game at all?


Posted by: jc at April 30, 2013 09:53 PM (PlzOe)

25

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at May 01, 2013 02:13 AM (KL49F)

 

Soooo... you think the same folks who really figured out Fast and Furious, and held people accountable for a US agents DEATH... will actualy do somthing... this time???

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 30, 2013 09:54 PM (lZBBB)

26 Despite the fact that the Saudi ambassador announced thid live and offered reams of documentation, we give this report four Pinocchios.

Posted by: Ombudsmen and truth squads at April 30, 2013 09:55 PM (GBWoT)

27 What happened to person of intrest #1, saudi school kid with burned hands?

Posted by: Rats Alley at April 30, 2013 10:08 PM (7yx0r)

28 Call it a tribute:  http://tinyurl.com/c45mpah

Posted by: DAve at April 30, 2013 10:08 PM (XDC0v)

29 Plausible denia... ehhhh what does it even matter anymore? OT: never up this hour. guess 6 tequila shots and wings don't make my stomach happy

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 30, 2013 10:15 PM (52n2x)

30 We also find the public's interest in this whole "Beganzi" affair terribly distasteful, and instead, will focus incessantly on the Amazing Economic Gay NBA Recovery Orchestrated by Dear Leader. Posted by: The MFM at May 01, 2013 02:14 AM (z63Tr) FTFY

Posted by: Journolist at April 30, 2013 10:16 PM (52n2x)

31 OT - The bodies of the four American airmen who were killed when their MC-12 Liberty went down in Afghanistan have arrived at Dover AFB.

http://tinyurl.com/cs4lefy

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 30, 2013 10:16 PM (1zr4/)

32 Seems that the red line wavering has the Saudi's a little pissed. The tail is definitely wagging the dog.

Posted by: and irresolute at April 30, 2013 10:22 PM (DBH1h)

33

These guys are reverting back to the insular, risk adverse, do not rock the boat behaviors of the 1990's.  And it will result in more successful and almost successful attacks.  Thank God most of the Islamics are incompetent.  But they only have to be lucky once.  And a lot of people will die.  And Obama will be all sound tough, and then do jack squat.  Just like his retaliation for Benghazi.  The bad guys already know this. 

 

And with this waffling incompetence, before October 2017, there will be a nuclear weapon detonation somewhere in the world.  Maybe terrorism, maybe someone deciding a nuclear war will be a short victorious war.  Then things will get ugly.  All because they think the US cannot effectively retaliate, and Europe will not either.

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2013 10:31 PM (D+lxs)

34 27 What happened to person of intrest #1, saudi school kid with burned hands?

Posted by: Rats Alley at May 01, 2013 03:08 AM (7yx0r)

 

Michelle visited him in the hospital, what more do you want?!

It was funny seeing leftists like Buzzfeed claim Michelle never visited him, only to have him post pics of her in his facebook page, lol!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 30, 2013 10:33 PM (KL49F)

35 The current risk of Nuclear Weapons is why I am trying my best to disarm ours! -Barky Odumbshit

Posted by: Old Dog at April 30, 2013 10:34 PM (tQYJH)

36

Posted by: rd at May 01, 2013 03:31 AM (D+lxs)

 

You said  "waffling", now  all O  wants to do is eat his waffles!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 30, 2013 10:35 PM (KL49F)

37 Leave President Dinkins alone!

Posted by: Baldy at April 30, 2013 10:39 PM (tyDFN)

38 Student Alharbi visits WH ? WH visits Alharbi in hostpital?

Posted by: Rats Alley at April 30, 2013 10:39 PM (7yx0r)

39 OK! Soo... ANYTHING that John E. POSTS nowadays, is a Monty Python Sketch? I don't think it quite, quite fair, not until You Summarize Proust!

Posted by: Deety at April 30, 2013 10:48 PM (IFXnr)

40 Affirmative Action has consequences.

Posted by: garrett at April 30, 2013 10:53 PM (hMK0O)

41 When Saudi Freakin Arabia warns you that someone is a probable terrorist, you'd think that might set off an alarm or two considering that 19 of the 21 9/11 jihadis were Saudis.
 
But I'm not concerned, because I know that we have Top Men working on this.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2013 11:03 PM (ccXZP)

42 31 OT - The bodies of the four American airmen who were killed when their MC-12 Liberty went down in Afghanistan have arrived at Dover AFB. http://tinyurl.com/cs4lefy Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 01, 2013 03:16 AM (1zr4/) One's from my town. RIP men.

Posted by: RWC at April 30, 2013 11:04 PM (Wl/Ht)

43 Let me be perfectly Clear on this. We take all warnings from out great friends the Saudis in great regard! Right until we get to the Rest Room where we use them to reduce the cost of toilet paper in the West Wing.

Posted by: Dingo at April 30, 2013 11:12 PM (tQYJH)

44 "One wonders, what exactly, it would take at this point for our media to actually fall back in love with the once celebrated exercise of truth-gathering and shoe leather reporting."

I don't wonder at all what, exactly, it would take.

It would take the election of a Republican president.

At which time, truth-gathering and shoe-leather-reporting and speaking-truth-to-power and dissent-is-patriotic-sentiment would all abruptly become fashionable once again.

Really not rocket science. Not one bit.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 30, 2013 11:14 PM (gqT4g)

45 We see nothing unusual here, please move along!

Posted by: LSM at April 30, 2013 11:17 PM (tQYJH)

46 Like WoW man no way The One would have missed this. Must not be real, yo don't Bogart that joint asshole!

Posted by: Bong Pirate at April 30, 2013 11:19 PM (tQYJH)

47 But rest assured that if ANYONE is implicated in this they will instantly be Mirandized to insure fairness!

Posted by: Berkley Progrssive at April 30, 2013 11:25 PM (tQYJH)

48 Well, Big Sis still has all that ammo in case we all revolt.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 30, 2013 11:27 PM (wR+pz)

49 9:45 am || Receives the Presidential Daily Briefing
10:30 am || Meets with senior advisers
4:00 pm || Meets with Secretary of State Kerry
4:30 pm || Meets with Secretary of Treasury Lew

All times Eastern
live stream of Carney briefing at 12:30 pm http://preview.tinyurl.com/ca8qh4z

Posted by: Baldy at April 30, 2013 11:48 PM (tyDFN)

50 Oh pish posh!! I'm GAY!!! Talk to MEEEEEE! Nothing else is as important as ME coming out as GAY!!!

Posted by: Jason Collins at April 30, 2013 11:50 PM (bV+IS)

51 http://www.jsonline.com A hero that carried the Ace if Spades in his wallet.

Posted by: gonzotx at May 01, 2013 12:01 AM (4CQjf)

52 It doesn't matter what other people say when you're a Belieber. Our media = biased, agenda-driven hackery.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 01, 2013 12:03 AM (bS6uW)

53 The regular media simply is Pravda Press. Have you read Pravda lately? It's better and more honest than our press. Check it out.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 01, 2013 12:08 AM (bS6uW)

54 What this shows is that there are most likely other actors involved with the Boston bombing. A lone nut would not pop up on the radar of the inteligence services of two different countries. They must have some significant links to jihadi groups beyond rants on the internet, training and support was provided by someone.

Posted by: Wodun at May 01, 2013 12:41 AM (PEpU8)

55 I used to read the official state North Korean news for fun. Now I get better stuff from the US press.

Posted by: Icedog at May 01, 2013 12:50 AM (9ScGj)

56 If the Ruskies and the sauds call at 3am, and DHS for whatever reason...does not have a clue..we got a problem.

Posted by: Rats Alley at May 01, 2013 12:54 AM (7yx0r)

57 Flash, Saudi nationals committed the 911 atrocity! So we attacked Iraq.

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 01, 2013 12:55 AM (G6kli)

58 The only reason today's media would interview Hitler would be to get pictures of his castle for the Home and Garden section.

Posted by: Isaac Newton at May 01, 2013 12:56 AM (n8LUb)

59 So my son had a diversity interview yesterday at his private Catholic high school. I had no idea they would do this.

The black interviewer told him he should be proud of his "diverse" (non-white) side and that "we are still a pretty racist country and someday that might get him a job".

I'm still cleaning up the house from my head exploding when he told me.



Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 01, 2013 01:09 AM (WVMUQ)

60 I'm thinking that maybe President Obama should just pack it up and go home.  Gol-ly!

Posted by: Fritz at May 01, 2013 01:11 AM (G9Mmf)

61 I think this has something to do with a Youtube video

Posted by: Julescat at May 01, 2013 01:19 AM (6QQih)

62 I am up early this mooring and it was on local Fox 25 in Boston. I think it will probably be in The Wall Street Journal too, but I haven't checked yet. Ever since TFG showed up at the DNC in 2004 they've made him into some kind of god. It's been going on for close to nine years.

Posted by: CarolT at May 01, 2013 01:20 AM (z4WKX)

63

Some folks say there's a woman to blame..

 

But I know. my own damn fault.

Posted by: Rats Alley at May 01, 2013 01:20 AM (7yx0r)

64 One more indicator of just how super-truly, bent-over-the-barrel, the-lube?-what-lube?, BONED! It's disspiriting man.

Posted by: fastfreefall at May 01, 2013 01:25 AM (b7FY0)

65 61 I think this has something to do with a Youtube video Posted by: Julescat at May 01, 2013 06:19 AM (6QQih) Sorry to break this to you, but that was the reason that they killed our Chris Stevens and three others in Benghazi. So far, there is no video to blame. But TFG and his admin may find an obscure video and blame it on them. If the MFM does pick it up and report on it, it will be Bush's fault!

Posted by: CarolT at May 01, 2013 01:30 AM (z4WKX)

66 Dynamofo: Since I started paying for my kids catholic education I have really been looking into what they learn. Also since I started working for myself I have lost a lot of the PC that I used to have. So your head exploding would have been mild compaired to the barnstorming that would have happened at SPX school.

Posted by: Picric at May 01, 2013 01:35 AM (rwP0w)

67 Picric- The school is pretty orthodox and we are very happy with it overall. My son is  a senior so we have had the full experience.

Proud of my boy's answers though. He called the guy out for the job thing, saying he would rather get a job for working hard and being smart. Also told him he was proud of his white heritage side as well.

Just can't get over the fact that the school is pushing racial grievance mongering and balkanization.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 01, 2013 01:43 AM (WVMUQ)

68 Just can't get over the fact that the school is pushing racial grievance mongering and balkanization. Catholic schools aren't necessarily less liberal than Public ones.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 01, 2013 01:49 AM (5aory)

69 http://preview.tinyurl.com/cyj6uut Another outrage in our increasingly bizarre country. It's not the radio program "Loveline's" Germany-or-Florida game anymore: the question s/b humanoid, or 3-headed space alien. If there were ever a clearer situation.... For $50, you should be able to buy a license to take drug dealers in any season, by any means.

Posted by: Thorvald at May 01, 2013 01:49 AM (1V6Pv)

70 Is it too much to ask gov. employees to actually do their jobs?

Posted by: BignJames at May 01, 2013 01:54 AM (H9MGI)

71 If this man had been a pasty white guy every rumor would be news. "Richard Jewell", see.

Posted by: T. at May 01, 2013 02:37 AM (+Km8H)

72 The paper's Saudi source said they told us SPECIFICALLY to look for bomb making materials in Tsaraev's mail...

Posted by: Reaganite Republican at May 01, 2013 02:52 AM (oK767)

73 Hey youse guys, does the Style Guide allow commenting before caffeine?
..'cuz
...all I can think of is, Obama is still president, and will be for most of 'nother four years.

so.....there you go.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 01, 2013 03:07 AM (r4Dcs)

74

"I find it quite remarkable that in the short span of 5 years we have evolved as a country from the era of presidents steering hurricanes to minority neighborhoods with Halliburton-controlled weather machines to the highest office in the land just being too darn complex for any one man to influence inconsequential subtleties like national security and intelligence gathering."

 

 

Greatest.   Sentence.   Ever.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at May 01, 2013 03:10 AM (nov+8)

75

"Is it too much to ask gov. employees to actually do their jobs?"

 

^Racist Dog Whistle (tm)

Posted by: Jaws at May 01, 2013 03:12 AM (4I3Uo)

76 I don't call them the snooze media for nothing.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at May 01, 2013 03:17 AM (Tmdyt)

77 File under Truth Stranger Than Fiction.

Posted by: sTevo at May 01, 2013 03:20 AM (Tssnh)

78 Not surprising as DHS only wants to nudy scan and feel up hot babes at airports and sit around eating donuts all day.

Posted by: sTevo at May 01, 2013 03:23 AM (Ue8+L)

79 Hey, now! These sorts of reckless and vague allegations could h result in these gentlemen and their family being denied the public assistance to which they were entitled!

Posted by: GalosGann at May 01, 2013 03:26 AM (vW1n3)

80

>One wonders, what exactly, it would take at this point for our media to actually fall back in love with the once celebrated exercise of truth-gathering and shoe leather reporting.

 

Having a Republican in the White House. Too easy.

 

 

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 01, 2013 03:30 AM (jCQ+I)

81 It would take the election of a Republican president Luckily, with the upcoming amnesty and flood of unskilled barely-literate tuberculous-host Natural Republicans, we won't have to worry about that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2013 03:33 AM (MBqvE)

82 Yes MFM lets believe the White Houses take. They have a stellar track record. From 'They carefully carried the ambassador to the hospital' and 'The video made them do it' oh and this oldie but goodie 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.'

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262 at May 01, 2013 03:52 AM (UU0OF)

83 We are so screwed. The media has no interest in journalism. None.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 01, 2013 04:07 AM (bXdYS)

84 is it me or is this investigation starting to mirror benghazi?

Posted by: jd at May 01, 2013 04:23 AM (Tjv8J)

85

Chechen jihadis ?

Never heard of them

 

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at May 01, 2013 05:50 AM (a/lbl)

86 Gosh, the way its bandied about in these parts, you'd think there was some sort of ideological war or a clash of cultures going on.

Everybody knows (well the 90% of the gun restriction crowd) its the Christians wingnuts who instigated this, not the piece-loving, science promoting Misogynistic silicone keepers....

Posted by: fred zeppelin at May 01, 2013 06:20 AM (zL/eJ)

87 This is where winning the culture comes in. Conservative or libertarian storytellers should have been making fiction making people fall back in love with the idea of the hardhitting reporter some years ago for max short-term effect; it might have shamed or inspired some real-life reporters to live up to what their friends were reading or watching about now. Still not a bad long-term strategy. It seems to me a lot of t.v. dramas has the dissemination of info, but it's always conveniently there and reliable in some super exclusive database (or just taken on faith because the people passing it on or authoritative and liberal). Basic investigative methods that even a civilian can practice aren't depicted.

Posted by: Jobey at May 03, 2013 03:36 AM (pFSok)

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