April 29, 2009

Barack "Bart Simpson" Obama on the Deficit: I Didn't Do It
— Ace

Even the AP thinks he's, how do I put this delicately, shitting all over us and telling us it's Belgian chocolate:

"That wasn't me," President Barack Obama said on his 100th day in office, disclaiming responsibility for the huge budget deficit waiting for him on Day One.

It actually was him - and the other Democrats controlling Congress the previous two years - who shaped a budget so out of balance.

And as a presidential candidate and president-elect, he backed the twilight Bush-era stimulus plan that made the deficit deeper, all before he took over and promoted spending plans that have made it much deeper still.

Obama met citizens at an Arnold, Mo., high school Wednesday in advance of his prime-time news conference. Both forums were a platform to review his progress at the 100-day mark and look ahead.

At various times, he brought an air of certainty to ambitions that are far from cast in stone.

His assertion that his proposed budget "will cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term" is an eyeball-roller among many economists, given the uncharted terrain of trillion-dollar deficits and economic calamity that the government is negotiating.

Note that wasn't from the news conference that just ended -- as far as I know, the lapdog media didn't ask him about it.

I did hear questions about how hard it is to be president, though.

Oh: This is interesting. OJ Simpson just emailed me to forward his offer to Obama to help him find "the real deficit-quadruplers."

Thanks to JackStraw.

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1 Obama Administration Bullshit-It's a mouthful of awesome!!!!1eleventy

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at April 29, 2009 03:18 PM (QWAKu)

2
He's for a lean government, just ask him.

Posted by: D-ling at April 29, 2009 03:19 PM (ick02)

3 The adults are in charge.

Posted by: Rhythmic drumming creates a hypnotic effect ( to help induce sleep) at April 29, 2009 03:20 PM (g/h9/)

4

Honestly, I cannot believe AP reported on this; however, not many other news networks will.

Posted by: deidre at April 29, 2009 03:21 PM (SVCna)

5 Why is the AP letting Bammy's cock fall from their mouths?

Chaffing?

Posted by: Toad at April 29, 2009 03:22 PM (GzhjM)

6 OMG. President Shaggy iz in the hizouse!

It wasn't me ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 29, 2009 03:23 PM (9Dw9r)

7
Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

That's an oxymoron, no?

Posted by: D-ling at April 29, 2009 03:23 PM (ick02)

8 So HOW much longer until the media realizes he's full of shit?

Posted by: Ack at April 29, 2009 03:23 PM (Pdl+z)

9 So, he's graduated from a legislative "Present" to an executive "It wasn't me!" He's so awesome. Can't wait until he cuts a Zero (in honor of himself) off the currency, eliminating 90% of the debt.

Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2009 03:24 PM (FcR7P)

10 I wish somebody would've told him how grateful we are that he's trying.

Posted by: David Letterman at April 29, 2009 03:25 PM (dYNX5)

11 Given that ...

Posted by: preface to questions we wish we had heard at April 29, 2009 03:26 PM (PD1tk)

12 It wasn't me?

Jay-zus,  that's the best He could do? 

Pericles and Cicero have nothing to fear from this chump.

-

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 29, 2009 03:26 PM (ruzrP)

13 So HOW much longer until the media realizes he's full of shit?

Posted by: Ack at April 29, 2009 08:23 PM (Pdl+z)

 

Oh they realize it. Hell- they're in on it. And that's why none of it will ever be reported.

Posted by: Jones at April 29, 2009 03:28 PM (KOkrW)

14 That was just one of many lies he told tonight.

Posted by: Scout Finch at April 29, 2009 03:28 PM (UJIeT)

15 Avenge us, boys.  Avenge us!!!

Posted by: prudence and personal responsibility at April 29, 2009 03:29 PM (PD1tk)

16 The buck stops there. Way over there.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at April 29, 2009 03:29 PM (OtE8p)

17

It's never him.  Or, in the rare cases where it is, it isn't JUST him.  He can never just accept the responsibility for the decisions or the positions he takes.

Jesus, I never thought I'd miss The Decider so much.

Posted by: April at April 29, 2009 03:29 PM (eGKtv)

18 Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

That's an oxymoron, no?

Demand-side economics.  It's an old theory, tried many times, and it has never worked in the history of things working.  And by things working, I include molecular chemistry.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at April 29, 2009 03:30 PM (JSO4h)

19

Waterhouse, I love that song. It's weird, and I can't understand why I love that song, but I do.

I did not see the Obamafest as I am not allowed to watch him speak, it is bad for my blood pressure. And my blood alcohol content.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 03:30 PM (AJ4xq)

20 O'Reilly is saying that this "snoozer" is free tv time. 

Posted by: ???????? at April 29, 2009 03:32 PM (zplc6)

21 So he went to Mizzou to celebrate his first hunnerd days? Has anyone told him that he isn't getting frequent flier miles out of this fucking gig? Is he on his way back from Mexico or what? I hope he flies over the Arch on his way home close enough to get that prized landmark photo updated. I'd hate for us to have to send an empty plane back out later for that shit. Maybe they could buzz Churchill Downs on the way home as well? I'm getting tired of trying to keep track of this little ADHD muthafuck.

Posted by: pendejo grande at April 29, 2009 03:32 PM (PXZI9)

22 Wait, I really need someone to explain to me how a 3.7 trillion budget cuts the deficit in half. I need this math concept for my credit card bills.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 03:32 PM (AJ4xq)

23 Ace, you're on fire dude. What the hell got into you today?

Posted by: Rocks at April 29, 2009 03:33 PM (3RHzM)

24 That 60+ % of the public approves of him is likely the biggest propaganda evah.  48% of the voters rejected him, and I'm to believe that many of them have decided they voted the wrong way?  I know the poll doesn't count only voters, but let's be realistic, 60% of us aren't drinking the kool-aid.

Now, I do think the only thing that saves us from his ridiculous, leftist-utopia, reaming of the USA is a tragic calamity that reveals who he really is, allowing the country to turn on him and reject the remainder of his aspirations without thinking about it.   

Dirty bomb, nuclear attack on Israel, Kim Jongs personal porn video with  Michelle playing "phasers to stun". 

I'm not rooting for anything of the sort, but I've concluded that we've crossed the precipice and nothing short of an event that allows for a true purging will keep us free. 


Posted by: The Hammer at April 29, 2009 03:33 PM (YBTwf)

25 Oh they realize it. Hell- they're in on it. And that's why none of it will ever be reported. I think you are misunderestimating the ego of the msm. Don't forget, it long ago stopped became about reporting the news. Our talking heads are now the story. Soon, very soon, one of them is going to start going rogue just so they can prove how bold and hip they are. And they will tell two friends, and so on, and so on....... I think the Foundations will sum up Barack's feeling soon. http://tinyurl.com/ctat7r

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2009 03:34 PM (VW9/y)

26 pendejo grande, remember he won. Air Force one is now his bitch. Well, except when it comes to ill-timed photo opportunities over Manhattan.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 03:34 PM (AJ4xq)

27
Demand-side economics.

Is that demanding the rich give their money to the poor and telling people that that will magically create economic growth?


Posted by: D-ling at April 29, 2009 03:35 PM (ick02)

28

Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

 

Hey.....it's good for at least one segment of the economy....

 

Posted by: Malt Liquor Marketers Assn at April 29, 2009 03:36 PM (PXZI9)

29 In all honesty, I didn't actually watch the speech.  I celebrated the first 100 days in office by coming home from at a godawful hour after an overnight shift making sure H1N1 doesn't send us all to hell in a handbasket, not sleeping enough, then playing Bioshock during the speech.  Nothing like tramping through an underwater Randian Objectivist dystopia and setting big guys in old-timey diving suits on fire with napalm (after siccing bees on them) to make one feel better about the world.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at April 29, 2009 03:37 PM (QWAKu)

30 Hey.....it's good for at least one segment of the economy....
Malt Liquor Marketers Assn


No,  I think that's bottoms-up economic growth.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 29, 2009 03:37 PM (9Dw9r)

31 Wait, I really need someone to explain to me how a 3.7 trillion budget cuts the deficit in half.

Well, I'd like to spend 7.4 trillion dollars, so... Well, you get the idea.

Posted by: Barak Obama at April 29, 2009 03:38 PM (OtE8p)

32 Is that demanding the rich give their money to the poor and telling people that that will magically create economic growth?

Not exactly what I... actually, yeah, that's pretty much dead-on.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at April 29, 2009 03:38 PM (JSO4h)

33 O/T
Can I just ask a question,why is it that con's are the only group with a truly wicked and funny sense of humor these days? I mean reading this smart military blog,the people I follow on twitter make me laugh when I need it the most, try that with a lib and I would end up crying. How can people be that humorless in life? They suck the fun out of everything.

Posted by: Tee866 at April 29, 2009 03:38 PM (Vti3Z)

34 so Amanda Carpenter is on O'Reilly and he asks what the blogs are saying.  So she talks about the blogs where eeryone is in love and then he asks about the right Wing blogs and she really has nothing to say.  so she stretches and then he asks abain, "were they angry?" "did they say anything about the press" and then she says she is reading redstate and hot air and no not really except calling it snooze fest and talking about the cute little name of TOTUS that is catching on now.  I think she didn't have the heart to tell him that it seemed as though the right wing blogs didn't really care.

Posted by: ???????? at April 29, 2009 03:38 PM (zplc6)

35

Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

 

Yeah......shut the fuck up esse. Keep it on the downlow juknow?

Posted by: Marijuana Inc. at April 29, 2009 03:38 PM (PXZI9)

36


Hey.....it's good for at least one segment of the economy....


haha, we should call it Obama's 'bottoms up' economy.

Posted by: D-ling at April 29, 2009 03:38 PM (ick02)

37 By the way, who was the douchebag who asked TOTUS what his most enchanting moment was? Enchanting? That has to be the gayest question ever asked of a president.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2009 03:39 PM (VW9/y)

38 Also, curse you Ace. You owe me for making me spit out the (previously delicious) chocolate bar I was eating.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 03:39 PM (AJ4xq)

39
shut up, Dennis Miller is on.

Posted by: D-ling at April 29, 2009 03:39 PM (ick02)

40

Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

 

It's always been bling-bling for us. Now pay up muhfuck.

Posted by: Hookers and Pimps and shit at April 29, 2009 03:40 PM (PXZI9)

41 "By the way, who was the douchebag who asked TOTUS what his most enchanting moment was? Enchanting? That has to be the gayest question ever asked of a president.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2009 08:39 PM (VW9/y)"

the guy from the times Zeleny, but O'Reilly gave him a pass cause it is "that metro sexual thing"

Posted by: ???????? at April 29, 2009 03:41 PM (zplc6)

42 JackStraw-Most enchanting moment?  Naked bareback rides on the presidential unipeg, Fucklebunny.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at April 29, 2009 03:41 PM (QWAKu)

43 We were tricked!  The bastard had his fingers crossed the whole time.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 29, 2009 03:41 PM (IqfKc)

44 Sooo, if I wanted to spend 4000 dollars on my credit card but only spent 2000 dollars, I cut my debt in half? Weird, that, I still seem to be out the 2000 dollars...

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 03:42 PM (AJ4xq)

45 Is MSNBC selling 100 Days Of The Messiah commemorative coins?

Posted by: Scout Finch at April 29, 2009 03:42 PM (UJIeT)

46 Dislike for the man is quickly becoming the h-word. I wish it wasn't, but it is. (Hi, Secretary Napolitano!)

Posted by: . at April 29, 2009 03:42 PM (ncJK0)

47

See the Dear Leader has solved all our problems and made us all rich, happy and healthy!  He has brought us unicorns and rainbows and made the Jooos and Arabs love each other.  He has halted terrorism, ended illness and poverty.

 

All bow down and bless Allah, I mean Obama, the Master Cylinder, the Peerless Leader, the Chief Commissar, the Defender of Islam, I mean Defender of the poor.

 

 

Posted by: Honest Cloud at April 29, 2009 03:42 PM (0Qynq)

48

Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

 

So when do we get to be on the DJIA and the S&P?

And fucking NASDAQ? Yo!

Posted by: Goodwill and the Salvation Army at April 29, 2009 03:42 PM (PXZI9)

49
Dennis Miller on Helen Thomas: The more I see her, the more I think she's Janet Napolitano before you add water.


Posted by: D-ling at April 29, 2009 03:42 PM (ick02)

50 so O'Reilly says again "don't you think it is just an excuse to get free air time.  I mean, we'll give him free air time any time casue that is what we do, this is cable and he doesn't think it is a press conference anymore with the usual 13 questions."
why does he keep asking this ans stressing `13 questions?

Posted by: ???????? at April 29, 2009 03:43 PM (zplc6)

51 This is not the deficit I knew.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 29, 2009 03:44 PM (84NI/)

52

Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

Shits better than a fucking tornado. Trust me on that.

Posted by: A-1 Mobile Home Sales at April 29, 2009 03:44 PM (PXZI9)

53 Why is it bad for everyone to have fondue pots?  Is O'Reilly worried about double dipping?

Posted by: ???????? at April 29, 2009 03:44 PM (zplc6)

54 @52: are you familiar with the Broken Window Fallacy?

Posted by: leoncaruthers at April 29, 2009 03:46 PM (JSO4h)

55 Wait, I really need someone to explain to me how a 3.7 trillion budget cuts the deficit in half. I need this math concept for my credit card bills.

He's using imaginary numbers, like eleventeen.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2009 03:46 PM (MlEgW)

56

Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

Word up to the trailer house dude. Fucking salad days is what  we're looking at here.

Posted by: RePo Man at April 29, 2009 03:46 PM (PXZI9)

57 It is not funny to hear O'Reilly say that the one guy they thought asked the unexpected question from CBS will be "audited up the wazoo". 

Posted by: tim at April 29, 2009 03:46 PM (zplc6)

58

Seriously though, bottom-up economic growth?

 

You boys think you gotta  good thing? Shiiitttt.

I fucks 'em comin' and goin'.

Posted by: Pawn Shop Owners Assn at April 29, 2009 03:48 PM (PXZI9)

59 "Even the AP thinks he's, how do I put this delicately, shitting all over us and telling us it's Belgian chocolate..." R-R-R-A-A-A-A-C-C-C-I-I-ST!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Barney Frank at April 29, 2009 03:48 PM (iafWn)

60 What was this utter bullshit about Churchill? He wouldn't torture German prisoners during the Blitz. So what? Who were those prisoners? Mostly shot down pilots and bomber crews, at that stage. Nobody from the German command and certainly nobody equivalent to Khalid Sheikh Muhammed. So what would have been the point of an intensive interrogation?

"Tell us something important!"

"Uh, another wave of bombers is coming next week."

"Gee, no shit, Fritz."

If you're already in an openly declared conventional war, what use are low ranking prisoners for intel? Try again, Barry.

There was so much prevarication and outright lies I lost count while driving.

Posted by: epobirs at April 29, 2009 03:48 PM (tGZMy)

61 Motherfucker better give me some props then.

Posted by: Eleventeen at April 29, 2009 03:48 PM (PXZI9)

62 @58: Did somebody say, "Bottoms Up"???

Posted by: Barney Frank at April 29, 2009 03:49 PM (iafWn)

63 Sooo, if I wanted to spend 4000 dollars on my credit card but only spent 2000 dollars, I cut my debt in half? Weird, that, I still seem to be out the 2000 dollars...

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 08:42 PM (AJ4xq)


That sounds like my wife. It's amazing how much money she saves me by going shopping.

Posted by: Rocks at April 29, 2009 03:49 PM (3RHzM)

64 Since I have exhausted any invective I had stored up for Bammer's endless river of bullshit, I have decided instead to provide you all with some so-far unpublished movie scripts I'm shopping around.

Square-Dancing With the Dead: A Zombie Dance Musical
Hokey-Pokey In Hell: Cowboy Zombie Boogaloo
Zombies in the Mist
Dawn of the Doobie-Doobie-Doo

Give my agent a call and we'll talk.


Posted by: Monty at April 29, 2009 03:49 PM (N13AA)

65

jackstraw I disagree- when it comes to Obamaworld, the media are All In- for good, for ill, for keeps. They have cast their lot with him. They won't let him appear to fail. He is their god.

Posted by: Jones at April 29, 2009 03:50 PM (KOkrW)

66 He's lying, and the part I can't stand is he isn't even putting the slightest bit of effort into making it sound like it might be true.  Its disrespect, at least show me some effort.  I mean come on.

Also, the Botox Queen better watch out, shes next under the bus in a few years when Obama says the last 3 budgets he signed with trillion dollar deficits weren't really his fault either.

Posted by: kefka at April 29, 2009 03:50 PM (RvMJU)

67 Even with the $700b TARP plan that pushed the deficits higher (and to which most Republicans were opposed and others lukewarm to), the plan all along was to have it repaid, and it is now Obama who is not accepting the repayments, instead preferring to keep his claws in the banks.  That and the fact that the money was later used for purposes other than intended.

Posted by: Ring at April 29, 2009 03:50 PM (FPnM5)

68 So what's the problem, anyway? I thought Obama Won.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 29, 2009 03:53 PM (iafWn)

69 "That wasn't me," President Barack Obama said on his 100th day in office, disclaiming responsibility for the huge budget deficit waiting for him on Day One.

I.  Just.  Wow. That whole constant drinking thing is looking better and better.

Also no Shaggy? 

Posted by: alexthechick at April 29, 2009 03:56 PM (ZVsJA)

70

Waterhouse brought the Shaggy upthread, alexthechick.

And, my gin and tonic is raised in solidarity, sister.

 

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 04:00 PM (AJ4xq)

71 >>jackstraw I disagree- when it comes to Obamaworld, the media are All In- for good, for ill, for keeps. They have cast their lot with him. They won't let him appear to fail. He is their god. Nooo. He's not their god, he is the means to their god. Their god is adulation. Our msm has become nothing more than scribe for Tiger Beat. Yes, they like him more than they would any conservative or even a Republican. But they aren't going down for him. On him, yes. For him, no. Obama is going to come back down to earth soon. I don't care how cool he is, he hasn't repealed the laws of economics. And when he does, the egomaniacs who pass as news reporters will start to pick him apart until MSNBC is a that fat, lonely Goth chick who was cool for about 60 seconds until people got bored with her tired act and realized the cool kidz were going in a different way.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2009 04:00 PM (VW9/y)

72 Nothing will ever be Barry's fault. He'll just run a never ending campaign and stand in front of adoring crowds (the press) and get his ass kissed.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2009 04:03 PM (VADxu)

73

I wonder how many newspapers will be buying that AP report?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2009 04:05 PM (MGu62)

74 "That wasn't me," President Barack Obama said on his 100th day in office, disclaiming responsibility for the huge budget deficit waiting for him on Day One.

This is like hiring a plumber to fix some leaky pipes in your house.  He proceeds to unnecessarily cut a huge hole in your floor and cuts through some wires leaving you without lights and heat.  When you completely come unglued he says:  "hey I'm not the one who made your pipes leak"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 29, 2009 04:09 PM (IqfKc)

75 Obama is going to come back down to earth soon. I don't care how cool he is, he hasn't repealed the laws of economics.

I don't think so. Americans can put up with an amazingly large amount of bullshit for an amazingly long time before they get fed up. Bammer's hallelujah chorus will speak no evil nor allow evil to be spoken so far as they have the power to do so. And Bammer can count on near-total support from the black and hispanic communities no matter how badly he fucks up. He could take the Constitution from the Archives, lay it on the Capitol steps, and piss on it; and the minority vote wouldn't dip by so much as a percentage point. In fact, you'd probably have a lot of rhapsodic ink being spilled about how "brave and unexpected" the gesture was.

Like it or not, we now live in a firmly Democratic stronghold, and this means that for all intents and purposes Bammer is pretty much bullet-proof. Oh, the Democrats will own the wreckage, right enough: by 2012 I suspect that people will be very sick of Donk politics indeed. But there is a lot of time between now and then, and we're not remotely close to the kind of pain that we're going to feel in the next few years.

Posted by: Monty at April 29, 2009 04:10 PM (N13AA)

76

hasn't repealed the laws of economics.

Actually, JackStraw, didn't Obama sign an executive order doing just this? Wasn't Thomas Friedman standing behind him, gloating?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 04:10 PM (AJ4xq)

77

O/T funny "wasn't me" story. I had a new roof put on last fall. One of the roofers dropped a heavy tool through the roof and punched a hole in my closet ceiling. I discovered it later that day. When I showed it to the crew foreman, he shrugged and told me with a completely straight face that it wasn't them.

I looked at him in amazement and asked, how exactly a ceiling that had been intact in the morning now had a hole punched through it? He continued to insist they hadn't done it. Right up until I called his supervisor. Then, suddenly it was like "oh, that hole in the ceiling."

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 29, 2009 04:14 PM (AJ4xq)

78 "The more I spend, the more I save!"

Posted by: Kim Jong Obama, President for Life at April 29, 2009 04:14 PM (TIBUh)

79 Maybe we can get a fillibuster proof majority, and win the presidency in 2012, and repeal the next 4 years.  That would be interesting if we could do that, "All laws and actions from the period of january 20 2009 to jan 20 20013 are hereby repealed."

Of course I don't think that's legal, but it would be a pimp statement.

Posted by: Douglas at April 29, 2009 04:15 PM (uU+Ss)

80 I'm sorry guys I don't think The Media will ever turn on Obama.

Posted by: Jones at April 29, 2009 04:17 PM (KOkrW)

81 He's so Sassy!

Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2009 04:24 PM (SWyxd)

82 >>I don't think so. Americans can put up with an amazingly large amount of bullshit for an amazingly long time before they get fed up. We'll see. I think you are misjudging just how bad we are going down in a few months. $3.7 trillion dollars. On top of where we are right now. This goes way beyond a significant bump in spending. This is a system altering amount of money in the best of times. To spend like this when we are teetering on the precipice of collapse is one of two things, an ignorant roll of the dice or a calculated decision to accept collapse and assume the public will ignore your responsibility for it and put you in charge of rebuilding a society. If you are wrong, we will have decades of rebuilding to do. If you are right and likewise so is Obama, God help us.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2009 04:25 PM (VW9/y)

83 Though 'Straw was breaking my balls about my choice of AoS username in a previous thread, I think he has to be right in post 71 of this thread. This can't sustain itself. If the Republicans/right decides, in its state of panic, to pack it in and move left to attract this supposed army of moderates just itchin' for a reason to vote Republican, it will be a mistake. Leave aside the question of whether the army of moderates exists, or the question of whether they'd join our gang. It was just 4 years ago when the Republicans were looking very solid. It was just 5 months ago when John McCain got 46% of the vote, despite running a bad campaign at an inopportune time. Politics is sort of like oil prices. A small change in the supply of oil can move prices wildly. A small change in the public's opinion of Obama can very easily break him. If the economy sucks in a year, and unemployment is still high, and inflation makes a return, the people will see that the only thing they have to show for it is a massive deficit. Journalists love themselves more than Obama. They may want to stand by him, but they will start to separate from him if he struggles. As much as his liberalism appeals to them, they also love the strong horse. Yes, they are running cover for him right now. But to damage him, they don't even need to start bashing him... just being indifferent to him will be devastating for the Dems. If conservatives truly think his policies are bad, shouldn't it follow that we believe the outcome will be bad? And if so, where do people think we should be when he crumbles?

Posted by: bunny boy at April 29, 2009 04:26 PM (YsSn7)

84 When are we going to stop calling these 'news conferences'?  This was a staged event.  President Slick put on a show, that's all.  But it's not surprising, he's always been one with style but no substance.

Posted by: GarandFan at April 29, 2009 04:27 PM (C3okI)

85 #69 - "That whole constant drinking thing is looking better and better.".... yep, I could not agree more.

Posted by: UofC Conservative at April 29, 2009 04:36 PM (ivwt+)

86 Bambi flies here and there for the same reason that Clinton did Lewinski -- because he can.

I think that Bambi thinks that this is what the President does.  Flies here and there making appearances to tout his accomplishments.

Posted by: rockhead at April 29, 2009 04:37 PM (DvaIL)

87 I'm sorry guys I don't think The Media will ever turn on Obama.

Exactly.  He is their baby.  They created him and are in fact 100% responsible for the Obama disaster.  The MSM can't criticize his economic policies because they were told (and they swept it under the rug) a million times that he was mentored by Bill Ayers who is an unapologetic communist.

I'm sure there are few good people left in the MSM, but they face the same dilemma as the Enron whistle blowers did.  You speak out and you will be ostracized by both your peers at the MSM (for exposing them) and the American people (guilt by association).

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 29, 2009 04:39 PM (IqfKc)

88 BUT WAIT!

THERE'S MORE ... and stuff ...

It turns out that Britain DID torture high-value Nazi types using Gestapo-like Techniques!!!!!

Flaming Skull - OBAMA Historically Ignernt - All that:

British WWII Torture Stuff Worse than Abu Grahib and It's Printed in "The Guardian" so it Must Be True

All of these men had been held at Bad Nenndorf, a small, once-elegant spa resort near Hanover. Here, an organisation called the Combined Services Detailed Interrogation Centre (CSDIC) ran a secret prison following the British occupation of north-west Germany in 1945.

CSDIC, a division of the War Office, operated interrogation centres around the world, including one known as the London Cage, located in one of London's most exclusive neighbourhoods. Official documents discovered last month at the National Archives at Kew, south-west London, show that the London Cage was a secret torture centre where German prisoners who had been concealed from the Red Cross [by the British] were beaten, deprived of sleep, and threatened with execution or with unnecessary surgery.

As horrific as conditions were at the London Cage, Bad Nenndorf was far worse. Last week, Foreign Office files which have remained closed for almost 60 years were opened after a request by the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act. These papers, and others declassified earlier, lay bare the appalling suffering of many of the 372 men and 44 women who passed through the centre during the 22 months it operated before its closure in July 1947.

My God ... Winston Churchill ran at least TWO torture centres/centers - one in an exclusive neighborhood in London, the other in a luxury spa.

Unnecessary Surgery ... threatened with execution ... Men and Women Tortured .... malnutrition to the point of skeletal gauntness ... during War?

by Andrew Sullivan's People?

~ shudder ~

The cognitive dissonance is going to be quite severe on this one.

Somebody alert ace.

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 29, 2009 04:39 PM (ruzrP)

89 Here's the link - it's also linked in the name:

http://www. {Pixy Suxy} guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/dec/17/ {pixy sux} secondworldwar.topstories3

But, seriously -

England, under Winston Churchill, during WWII tortured German men and women in specially converted sites - one located in an exclusive London neighborhood, the other at a converted luxury spa.

Meanwhile, the US hoses out a shabby concrete Saddam-built torture facility at Abu Grahib, puts in some clean tables and water board cloths - I would bet that there are rules that the waterboard-cloths placed over the victim's mouth must be sterile prior to use - and has the rhetorical shit beat out of it.

So the  English get style points.

Obama remains ignorant about the history he claims proves his rightness of purpose.

Go figure.


Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 29, 2009 04:44 PM (ruzrP)

90 No, the media will not turn on Obama.  But they will turn on the rest of the Dems.  Pelosi, Reid, Napolitano, Biden, no one will be safe and he will be all too happy to pass the buck.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 29, 2009 04:48 PM (bZ9KY)

91 And, for the record and in the interest of reproducible results - here's the google search in all its marvelous, subtle splendor.

britsh wwII interogation techniques german spies

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 29, 2009 04:48 PM (ruzrP)

92

The "deficit-cutting" hocus-pocus is the same as the inane "tax cut" nonsense.  Both take presumptive terms which are altered to fit Obama's narrative.

The "tax cut" seems like a tax cut until one understands that, for now, it is a tax credit that will have to be paid back next year.  Obama wants to use his cap and trade boondoggle to ultimately pay for this, but that's presuming that the energy companies don't pass on costs to the customers.  Even Obama admitted early in his campaign that wasn't going to happen and that we'd get socked with those extra costs.

In the same manner, the deficit cut only looks like a cut if one looks at the annual budgets Obama and the GAO determined.  Because Obama is spending well over a trillion this year, he can cut that down to a little over $500 billion and claim that it was cut in half.  The problem is that even Obama's most optimistic spending year is still more than Bush's budgets even approached during his entire presidency.  Hell, Obama's FIRST budget is more than all the budget debt Bush accumulated over eight years combined, and that's even with the farm bill, NCLB, the Medicare bill, etc.

The truth is that at no point in his entire presidency does Obama substantially lower the federal deficit.  Hell, even by his own projections, he doesn't lower the annual budget deficit to Bush-era levels.  Only fools or self-decievers believe he's being fiscally responsible.

Posted by: A Lock of Che Guevara's Chest Hair at April 29, 2009 04:52 PM (AeZjJ)

93 Frankly I would rarher we just pull the bandaid off quickly and have all the things Obama wants to do done now. Close Gitmo, withdraw from Iraq, tax the rich, cap and trade, cut military spending, stop missle defense, secret union ballots, etc. The sooner the ill effects of these actions are felt the sooner the people will realize their mistake and will demand corrections. Incremental socialism and facism is harder to oppose.

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2009 04:56 PM (kMKDC)

94 59 "Even the AP thinks he's, how do I put this delicately, shitting all over us and telling us it's Belgian chocolate..."

W-W-W-A-A-A-A-C-C-C-I-I-ST!!!!!!!!

FIFY

Posted by: UncleFacts at April 29, 2009 05:06 PM (vZVv7)

95 Obviously what happened was the TOTUS answered the question. And since teh TOTUS is a mere teleprompter, couldn't have quadrupled the deficit like B. Hussein Obama did.

The B is for Benito!

Posted by: Naqamel at April 29, 2009 05:08 PM (ElKyb)

96 >>Though 'Straw was breaking my balls about my choice of AoS username in a previous thread That is totally unfair. I never claimed you had balls.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2009 05:09 PM (VW9/y)

97 It's not fair! The transfer circuits are working!

Posted by: Barack "Lando" Obama at April 29, 2009 05:12 PM (WARA5)

98 It's never him. Or, in the rare cases where it is, it isn't JUST him. He can never just accept the responsibility for the decisions or the positions he takes. Jesus, I never thought I'd miss The Decider so much.

I would like to say, uh, that I, uh, accept responsibility for my staff's, uh, inability to take responsibility for my, uh, decisions. Even though this is not, uh, my fault, and in fact the fault of, uh, my predecessor, I still would like to say I am, uh, truly sorry that not everyone I work with is, uh, as perfect as I.

Now please, I, uh, need to go, uh, plan some more plane flights.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 29, 2009 05:25 PM (odYmd)

99

Obama is going to come back down to earth soon. I don't care how cool he is, he hasn't repealed the laws of economics. And when he does, the egomaniacs who pass as news reporters will start to pick him apart until MSNBC is a that fat, lonely Goth chick who was cool for about 60 seconds until people got bored with her tired act and realized the cool kidz were going in a different way.

I am still cool, you teabagging reich-winger! You'd know that if your limbic  brain wasn't screwed. People love me in 24, I am the most popular cast member, and next season Jack and I have a hot affair going. He appreciates a woman with a brain, not some big titted, know nothing, bible-thumper, like that homophobic Ms. California. Ugly Goth girls rulezzzz!!! Yay!!!!!!

Posted by: Janeane Garawfulo at April 29, 2009 05:36 PM (qPIRP)

100 Bumper Stickerist, that is very interesting.

So, I searched on Robin "Tin Eye" Stephens and there are a lot of very recent articles arguing that he refused to even touch the little Nazi darlings.  Most of them seemed to have picked it up from Andi Sullivan.

Yet, as you point out, in Dec. 2005, the story was different.  Ol' Tin Eye's prisoners had shocking and horrific weight loss.  They complained of thumbscrews and shin screws.  And much much worse.  Lots of deaths.

Here are links to The Guardian (UK) and The Sydney Morning Herald (Aus)

It seemed that by February 2006, the story was different.  Link to the UK Times.  It seems that Ben Macintyre is the writer who changed the approach.

But of course, they're missing the point.  Nobody wanted a confession from KSM, they wanted intel.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 29, 2009 05:51 PM (bZ9KY)

101

JackStraw,

I think the reasons the media won't turn on Obama are 1. They're liberal, like him, and so their bias -whether deliberate or not- will prevent them from seeing it's his fault. If you believe raising tax rates raises revenue, and government spending stimulates the economy, what are you going to say when revenues go down, deficits soar, and the economy doesn't improve. "Well, it can't be Obama. He did everything right. I blame Wall Street greed and social conservatives."; and 2. Journalists just aren't all that bright (See #1 above). Remember the journalism majors in college? If it weren't for the Drama majors, the journalism majors would have been the stupidest people on campus. Hey, which party locked up both of those groups?

Posted by: Ted K. at April 29, 2009 06:07 PM (tbIP7)

102 #59...it's white chocolate. It's Ok...really.

Posted by: torabora at April 29, 2009 06:29 PM (yPznK)

103

Obama's comment also works well with Homer's third "sentence that will get you through life":

It was like that when I got here.

 

@89 BumperStickerist

The funny thing is I had just read about the London Cage a few days ago, then I hear Bambi's remarks.  Of course even if grant the veracity of Bambi's tale it's still an apple to oranges comparison what with WW2 being a conventional nation-state conflict between Geneva Conventions signataries.  A more accurate comparison would be the British responding to Mau Mau terrorism in Kenya, and I thought I read Bambi hated Churchill because the British tortured his grandfather.

Posted by: jarod at April 29, 2009 06:36 PM (A23Gx)

104 21 So he went to Mizzou to celebrate his first hunnerd days? Has anyone told him that he isn't getting frequent flier miles out of this fucking gig?

Well, that place where President Awesome wants his Awesome pizza is in
St Louis. If mohammed cant come to the mountain, the mountain comes to mohammed

Posted by: kbdabear at April 29, 2009 06:37 PM (miw86)

105 33 O/T
Can I just ask a question,why is it that con's are the only group with a truly wicked and funny sense of humor these days?

Oh, that's not true! They wet themselves laughing at Jon Stewart doing that little "pssst" thing with his mouth when he makes a stale wisecrack about anyone to the right of Hugo Chavez.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 29, 2009 06:40 PM (miw86)

106 Presidente 666 is such a cretin.  He spent more in 100 days then Bush did in 8 years.  The good part IS ALL THE FOOLS WHO VOTED FOR HIM HAVE IMPOVERISHED THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.

Posted by: Thomas Jackson at April 29, 2009 06:59 PM (0Qynq)

107 The DemSM won't turn on their Teleprompter Messiah, not ever. They'll squander what credibility they have left except for idiots who think "you can't say it on tv if it isn't true". They'll bore the leftists who still follow them, they can't take peace and quiet for long, even if it's their peace and quiet.

More newspapers going tits up, and maybe even cutbacks in the tv news divisions would be a nice help. Hell, the syndicators fired Ted Rall last week, and I'm hoping that he's trying to convince some publisher to give him an advance on his stick figure cartoons by taking a crooked one up the poop chute.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 29, 2009 07:03 PM (miw86)

108 Ref Churchill, Nazis and Torture. Obama was talking about German POWs but Churchill didn't hold back even a little bit from other Germans that the Brits got their hands on. Ever hear of the Double Cross system? Germans parachuted spies into the UK. The Brits would catch some. They gave them a choice. Either play ball with us and be a double agent or we execute you. German says no, he dies. German says yes, the Brits let him send radio messages back to Germany passing false information and, most importantly, arranging to meet up with future Germans spies. 100% of those spies were caught and they got the same choice. It wasn't long before every single German spy in the UK was either a double agent working for the Brits or dead. Now let's compare that with the US and Al-Qaeda. Those German spies weren't in uniform. They weren't subject to the Geneva convention. And the Brits were about as nasty as you can be - Cooperate or Die. What do we do with Al-Qaeda guys? Sleep deprivation. Water Boarding. PLEASE There's no comparison. ------------ Amusing ironic point. The Germans never knew their entire spy system in the UK had been turned. The irony is that the Germans did exactly the same thing to the Brit spy system in the Netherlands. And the Brits never knew* their spy system had been turned. *well, one guy did but he wasn't believed.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 29, 2009 08:07 PM (msqZ2)

109 Shame on you, Ace.  Comparing Obama to OJ, that's RACIST!!!!!

Posted by: Jeremiadbullfrog at April 29, 2009 08:32 PM (B4Jz+)

110 The Plan is working perfectly. Just wait until the American people realize that fewer than ten thousand state and federal politicians are keeping them enslaved.

Posted by: Cigarette Man at April 29, 2009 09:23 PM (U+Kew)

111 The MSM will never desert Obama. They can't. Their fortunes are now inextricably tied with his: they know it, he knows it. The President can safely strangle kittens and drop-kick puppies in broad daylight with complete confidence in the ability of a fawning, compliant press to spin it his way. Will it work? No. The reality is things will keep getting worse. The economy won't--can't--rebound as a result of Obama's policies. Our enemies will grow increasingly bolder, more brazen and threatening.  Sooner or later, even the dullest of our now-enchanted countrymen will start taking notice and wonder at the disparity between what they're being told and what they know to be true. The problem? Such a realization might come too late.

Posted by: troyriser at April 29, 2009 09:27 PM (YZ5KX)

112 Let's avoid more relevant, but somewhat esoteric topics, and think about one, single, aspect of what is going on. More than 90 million Americans voted in the November elections. 48% of them voted against Obama and the Democrats, while another 6 million stayed home in 'protest' against the 'lesser of two evils.'  That amounts to more than fifty million Americans.  By many accounts, more than 50 million *households* in America own more than 300 million guns and rifles. Those gunowners are Republicans, Democrats and Independents.   50 million Americans - and their families - are not insane right-wing extremists. They are all quite mainstream, as a matter of fact.  In any case, insulting and attempting to marginalize fifty million people with guns sounds like a very dangerous strategy. Very shortly, most of those gunowners will have nothing to gain and nothing to lose. Men who have nothing to gain and nothing to lose are much more dangerous than this government can comprehend. This is particularly true of the men who embrace freedomand liberty as their own reality and not as fanciful ideals.

Posted by: Cigarette Man at April 29, 2009 09:38 PM (U+Kew)

113 50 million Americans - and their families - are not insane right-wing extremists. They are all quite mainstream, as a matter of fact. In recent conversations with some co-workers I have been pleasantly surprised to find out about some "closet" gun owners. I think there is just a general sense of foreboding that is making people instinctively prepare for the worst. I know I am.

Posted by: Jay at April 30, 2009 01:35 AM (iy1Xt)

114

The MSM will turn on Obama to save their own skins.  They will count on the public to be to stupid to remember how they fellated him in the past.  For the most part, they will be right.  The Ameican public has an attention span of about 30 seconds.  Anything older than that is a distant memory.

Posted by: Steve L. at April 30, 2009 01:36 AM (Gkhxf)

115 Actually, the whole "It wasn't me" refrain reminds me more of the movie Rocket Man. Hmm, now that I think about it, the actor who plays Fred has jug ears, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOrT0X8i8zI

Posted by: jakeman at April 30, 2009 02:10 AM (DyROQ)

116 It's AMAZING to me how little credibility the GOP has now. They ran the country for 6 of the last 8 years, but the deficit falls at the Democrats feet? Fucking idiotic. The Bush Administration jacked up the deficit 5 Trillion dollars in 8 years, not counting war spending. Then you hand the current Administration  an economic shit sandwich then bitch stimulus packages? Bush more than a few stimulus packages. Conservative goldfish, it's a brand new world every 30 seconds.

Posted by: Mungus at April 30, 2009 02:54 AM (pN6U0)

117

New weekly unemployment numbers; 631K.

How's that economy and porkulas ass tast you Obominites?

Posted by: Vic at April 30, 2009 03:01 AM (f6os6)

118

I think the reasons the media won't turn on Obama are .....

I think the reason the media will turn on Obama is Monica Lewinsky.

Seriously, I get that the media is liberal and Obama is their creation but we have been here before.  The media cares first and foremost about the media.  And when they are scorned they are the bitch from hell. Obama is rolling on giving shit away without having to produce a check.  Check is coming.

Will they make him Chimpy McHaliburtonHitler?  No.  But they don't need to.  When they stop taking turns giving him a blumpkin and he is left to fend for himself, he will come back to earth double plus quick. Don't forget, his polls are pretty much in line with every other president of the last 40 years at this point and thats with the media turning him into Zeus. 

The average American is not a political junkie like most here.  But they aren't stupid either.  And they don't like being played for a fool.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2009 03:02 AM (VW9/y)

119 22% unemployment in construction. Gee I guess all those Flu ridden Mexicans will have to go home.

Posted by: Vic at April 30, 2009 03:02 AM (f6os6)

120 Some important, and inconvenient, facts that our newest O-bot left out...
1) The deficit dropped from about $460B in 2003 (post-9/11, recession) to about $160B in 2007 (when we voted for "Change" the first time - and boy the Dems sure "changed" that trend)
2) The debt, not the deficit, went up under Dubya
3) The increased debt pretty much includes all the war spending
4) The current administration, when they were in the congressional MAJORITY the last 2 years (you know, that whole "voted for change in 2006" thing), helped greatly in creating this shit sandwich - it's only fair they get to take a bite of it now

Get back to us when the vapors wear off and you can translate the last quarter of your previous Bidenesque ramble.

Posted by: DocJ at April 30, 2009 03:50 AM (g8ibn)

121 Is Obama claiming he was not a US Senator before he became president?
He can no more disclaim last year's budget than he can disclaim his own pastor of 30 years.

Posted by: dustydog at April 30, 2009 04:03 AM (MDkjt)

122

You people have missed the real meaning of that AP story.

Is this like that part of a Mets season, near the end, where they raise your hopes only to smash them like so many baby-seal heads?

In other words, Minitru is finally realizing how badly they abused their rights and privileges and screwed us thereby only it's too late? You can't have a funniest end of civilization ever without an end of civilization. We've had plenty of teh funny, not it's time for teh endy.

So any guesses? Pak goes jihadi and starts a nukular war? Iran goes nukular and starts a nukular war? NoKo invades SoKo and starts a nukular war? Russia invades Georgia and starts a nukular war? China invades either Russia or Taiwan and starts a nukular war? 95% of us die from swine flu and  half of us move to Boulder and the other half to Vegas as Good and Evil duke it out?

I'm still rooting for asteriod strike with enough warning for me to make it to the Catskills.

Posted by: Veeshir at April 30, 2009 04:12 AM (zXUuJ)

123

They ran the country for 6 of the last 8 years, but the deficit falls at the Democrats feet?

Stupid:

Tom Daschle, Democrat, was Senate Majority Leader majority leader from June 6, 2001-January 3, 2003.

Further, Obama was talking about the current deficit. You know, the one that is caused by Demcracts writing the last 2 budgets.

Remember imbecile, "accountability" is something ignorant people like you only shout at elected Republicans.

Posted by: Jay at April 30, 2009 05:08 AM (/ZX77)

124 DJIA end of session on January 4th 2007, the start of the Democratically controlled 110th Congress:  12,800.18*
National unemployment rate for December 2006:  4.5%
Federal Deficit for 2006      $247 Billion
Average monthly GDP growth for 2006:   3.4%

Posted by: it can't be said enough at April 30, 2009 09:02 AM (PD1tk)

125

#117

 

Like yeah man Bush is sooo evil.  Who can blame Presidente 666 for spending more money in three months than Bush did in eight years, or evenb Bush and Clinton for a total of 16 years.

 

 

I mean man, what are those fscists crying about they created this mess and our Lord and Saviour is going to fix the deficit by increasing it by a factor of four.  Like how can they blame Obama.  He's just getting started wait till he gets going.  Like my kid brother with a credit card man.   Then the economy is going to zoom.

 

I mean look at what he did to Chrysler and GM.  And wait till he gets through with Wall Street.  He's create dat least 18 million jobs right?

 

All hail Obama, our Lord and Saviour.  He's so cool, look at his pecs, and his rear, ooh I love his rear, and his manly chest I doooo love that manly chest.   I swoon when I hear that masculine voice and his masterful ways!

Just like Barney Frank but with more fashion sense, you know?

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