December 30, 2009

Bailout Nation: US Throws More Money At GMAC
— DrewM

So, that's nice.

The U.S. Treasury said today it will inject another $3.8 billion into troubled lender GMAC, part of a deal that will boost the federal government’s stake to 56% and attempt to staunch the company’s losses from bad mortgages.

All of the money injected by the Treasury will essentially go to shoring up GMAC’s ResCap unit, the arm best known for ditech.com and other housing-boom related mortgage offers that crashed as housing prices withered over the past couple of years. GMAC said the move, along with a $3.3 billion write-down in mortgages at ResCap and Ally Bank, should allow it to explore a sale or other action for ResCap.

"By protecting the financial performance and strength of our core automotive finance operations, we expect to increase the pace at which we can fully repay the U.S. taxpayer,” said GMAC Chief Executive Officer Michael A. Carpenter.

The money comes on top of $12.5 billion that the U.S. Treasury had previously invested in GMAC to keep it afloat as the lender of choice for car buyers and dealers at General Motors and Chrysler.

The new 'loans' make the US Government the majority share holder in this zombie company.

GMAC will become the sixth company the U.S. has taken control of in the past two years.

Public-private mortgage lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, auto manufacturers General Motors and Chrysler and the largest commercial insurer in the U.S., American International Group.

Isn't that just wonderful?

Posted by: DrewM at 12:15 PM | Comments (347)
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1 Is anybody buying Government Motors cars?

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 12:18 PM (Cctty)

2 Yeah, that's the ticket - throw more good money after bad!  That'll bring GMAC/Fannie/Freddie out of their downward spirals!  But stop loaning money to those who cannot afford to pay it back?  Alors!  Never.

Posted by: Intrepid at December 30, 2009 12:18 PM (92zkk)

3 The system worked.

Posted by: Ministry of Fiction at December 30, 2009 12:18 PM (F8sIP)

4 How many times must we say NO?

How loud must we say NO?

Damn gub'mint!!!

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 12:19 PM (B5cM9)

5 This shit just makes me want to jump in my Honda and run it over a cliff.....but it is too good a car to do that too. If I had a GM car, I would simply HAVE to follow through.

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 12:20 PM (rVJH4)

6 How is Ford doing, Barry?

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 12:20 PM (Cctty)

7 Great, like I needed more reason to pay off my GMAC loan on my GM car.

I don't want to deal with these people any more than I have to *already*.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 30, 2009 12:20 PM (gHYSa)

8 Another Union payoff.......

Posted by: paranoid polly at December 30, 2009 12:21 PM (r7Vc3)

9 Somebody has to pay the $7k/car that GM is giving dealers to take 2009 Saturns and Pontiacs off of their hands.

Posted by: Voters at December 30, 2009 12:21 PM (d7Px0)

10 Bush should have said no a year ago.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 12:23 PM (Cctty)

11 Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 05:18 PM (Cctty)

I bought one back in September because my car threw a rod 200 miles from home and the only dealership in the town I was in was a Chevy dealer.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at December 30, 2009 12:24 PM (IoUF1)

12 Why not? Throw the whole Goddam national treasure down that hopeless black hole. Stupid is as stupid does. And Stupid is running the damn show.

Posted by: maddogg at December 30, 2009 12:24 PM (OlN4e)

13 I thought Dear Leader didn't want to "run any auto companies"?  Barry Motors.  My husband's going to have to get rid of his Yukon. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 12:25 PM (UOM48)

14 Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at December 30, 2009 05:24 PM (IoUF1) Noted for the record.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 12:26 PM (Cctty)

15

2 Is anybody buying Government Motors cars?

No Government motors cars for me. Even when they are giving them away, and they are.

Posted by: maddogg at December 30, 2009 12:26 PM (OlN4e)

16

GM is going crazy with deep discounts, aka "losing more money". So this is just a downpayment.

They know that they will have a permanent pipeline into our treasury, until some adult (ie, a fiscal conservative) turns off the tap.

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 12:27 PM (dcKUM)

17 Merry Christmas GM! And what the hell is GM doing making home loans? Are they so good at making and selling cars that they can dabble in the housing industry?

Posted by: Dr. Spank at December 30, 2009 12:27 PM (YQTVx)

18 I wouldn't buy a GM or a Chrysler -- if I buy American it would be a Ford.

Posted by: billygoat at December 30, 2009 12:27 PM (6DDE+)

19 I've been keeping an eye out for Obama stickers on cars in recent weeks. A year ago they were everywhere. Now, have not spotted one since seeing one on a Prius back in early November. SF Bay area, BTW.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 12:28 PM (Cctty)

20
ahh, yes, more 'pulling from the brink' by Obama.

Boy, this guy has a real strange way of saving the economy.

Posted by: Posted by a shill for Big Insurance at December 30, 2009 12:28 PM (z37MR)

21
It's a lot like how the Colts pulled their undefeated season from the brink.


Posted by: Posted by a shill for Big Insurance at December 30, 2009 12:29 PM (z37MR)

22 I change the channel every time an ad comes on. Fuck em

Posted by: mbruce at December 30, 2009 12:29 PM (t/GDA)

23 The new 'loans' make the US Government the majority share holder

The democrats found a great way to launder some money to garner UNION (UAW) votes in the upcoming elections.  There is no other reason for this

Posted by: paranoid polly at December 30, 2009 12:29 PM (r7Vc3)

24 So, who said we can't keep spending and running up the deficit like we were spending Monopoly money again and fiscal responsibility was really really important and stuff?

Yeah, I can't remember either.  Some nobody who doesn't have any pull or clout in Government obviously, that or a complete idiot.

Posted by: Gekkobear at December 30, 2009 12:29 PM (KBg64)

25

Now, have not spotted one since seeing one on a Prius back in early November.

Of course, the LIBS don't buy American bailout crs, so they. They never do as they try to make others do.

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 12:30 PM (rVJH4)

26 They sucked all the value out of GM cars years ago.  First, the bean-counters made 'em shitty, then the unions finished 'em off.

Personally, I've always been annoyed by the "Buy American" attitude.  Sure, I want people to have jobs, but not at the expense of having to buy inferior products.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 12:30 PM (BFqyO)

27
The guy who lit his explosive underwear on fire?

Yeah, he pulled his terror-mission from the brink just like Obama pulled the economy from the brink.

Posted by: Posted by a shill for Big Insurance at December 30, 2009 12:30 PM (z37MR)

28 re: 18  Amen.   It's sorta ironic my only new cars have been a GM and a Chrysler.  Both decent cars...   But now it'll be Ford or foreign.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 12:30 PM (B5cM9)

29
Hey, what are you guys doin on New Year's Eve?

I think Ima gonna pull my brink.

Posted by: Posted by a shill for Big Insurance at December 30, 2009 12:31 PM (z37MR)

30 We're headed straight for a cliff and President Toonces just cranked the radio and shifted into 4th.

Posted by: Spud at December 30, 2009 12:31 PM (iaMr2)

31 My brink is sluggish these days.

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 12:32 PM (rVJH4)

32 That's just great. Meanwhile, the rest of us are trying to save a buck buying the store brands or driving our clunkers a few more years. What a waste.

Posted by: TakeFive at December 30, 2009 12:32 PM (/3pxq)

33 Dr. Utopia had better invest in some more printers.

I wonder when the Chinese are going to summon him for another little chit chat.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 12:32 PM (BFqyO)

34 "Now, have not spotted one since seeing one on a Prius back in early November.

SF Bay area, BTW."

It's also kinda funny that Amazon's 3rd highest selling non-fiction book is Sarah Palin's Going Rogue - for sales made to Bay Area residents.

Heh.

Posted by: Intrepid at December 30, 2009 12:33 PM (92zkk)

35

I wonder when the Chinese are going to summon him for another little chit chat.

They didn't want to talk to him anyway. I suspect the next chat will be one word..."NO"

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 12:34 PM (rVJH4)

36

#4

How many times must we say NO?

How loud must we say NO?

...before it's considered, you know, rape-rape....

Posted by: Stillwater at December 30, 2009 12:34 PM (qUdDE)

37

" my balls!

my balls!

my balls are on FI-YAH!"

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 12:35 PM (rVJH4)

38 You know that video that was going around a while back, something about a giant money hole. That video might be true.

Posted by: sig at December 30, 2009 12:36 PM (2i+Vz)

39
Another 3 billion and they're still not addressing the fact that the cars they make are shit.  Not the shit.  Just shit.

I'm glad they make crappy cars so I don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything on my commitment to never buy one.

Kinda like the ease of vowing to never buy a Dixie Chicks cd.  Now that was easy.

Posted by: Dang at December 30, 2009 12:36 PM (UA4gE)

40 19 I've been keeping an eye out for Obama stickers on cars in recent weeks.

A year ago they were everywhere.

Now, have not spotted one since seeing one on a Prius back in early November.

SF Bay area, BTW.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 05:28 PM (Cctty)

Still plenty of them in the Madison and Milwaukee area, it's really depressing.

Posted by: WisConbowhunter at December 30, 2009 12:36 PM (Fbdn3)

41 So why is GMAC having trouble anyhow?

GMAC is the primary lender to General Motors and Chrysler customers.

Oh... brilliant.  When GM and Chrysler rebound from their issues with their new brilliant Government-led management plans they'll pull GMAC back as well and they'll all pay back the Government what they owe, plus huge interest and bonuses for being saved.

On that day I'll sell my car... because riding one of those flying pigs seems like it would be more ecologically friendly; and fun too.  I think I'll call him Horace.

Posted by: Gekkobear at December 30, 2009 12:36 PM (KBg64)

42 BRINK? That's Me!

Posted by: David Brinkley Back from the Dead at December 30, 2009 12:36 PM (rVJH4)

43 Can the Chinese cut us off completely (buying all our debt)?  Aren't they locked in a vicious circle with us?   That being asked, I hope they can at least cut back their purchases... but that will bring higher interest rates and inflation.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 12:37 PM (B5cM9)

44 I thought Barry's new year resolution was to cut down on spending?  Didn't he make a speech declaring he was going all deficit hawkish a week or so ago?

Maybe he got his birds mixed up.  Maybe he's going to go all deficit sparrow.

Posted by: Intrepid at December 30, 2009 12:37 PM (92zkk)

45 Know what I want to see?  Huh?

I want to see someone take a look at the following question:

If the US were not already in a recession, would Obama's economic policies have put us into one?

My vote?  A resounding "Obviously!"

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 12:37 PM (BFqyO)

46
There are plenty of Obama/Biden stickers in Savannah.  And one of them is on my libtard sister's clown car. 

I'm always dumbfounded by the elderly people driving Mercedes, Cadillacs, etc. sporting the stickers.  I mean, WTH?

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 12:37 PM (UOM48)

47
Merry Brinkmas!

Posted by: Posted by a shill for Big Insurance at December 30, 2009 12:37 PM (z37MR)

48 It's like the two trillion or so that we threw into America's shitty ghettos over the past 30 years. Wasted every damn penny of that just to buy votes for the Dims.

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 12:37 PM (dcKUM)

49
Hey, look at me, I'm about to cause massive inflation!!!


Posted by: President Brink Puller at December 30, 2009 12:38 PM (z37MR)

50 Yeah the fucking line workers have sooo much incentive to tighten every bolt, and connect every wire now!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 12:39 PM (Wtr9J)

51 I try not to buy union. Especially when it is a car or other large purchase. Hell my big screen TV is a Toshiba because of the value. Not paying Union PACs drive me to purchase overseas. I drive a VW (Who will have a US plant next year in TN. But no union.) I ahve a Toshiba TV. My computers are made from parts from overseas. Union products are unaffordable. All unions can do is bankrupt good companies and destroy jobs.

Posted by: Steve In Tulsa at December 30, 2009 12:39 PM (lv+sJ)

52 Of course, this is chump change compared to the unlimited funds they will be tossing at the FMs and the $4 trillion they're committing the federal reserve to pony up in the *ahem* unlikely event of upcoming big bank/Wall Street failures.  See Bloomberg for story, in case you've missed it.

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 12:39 PM (9Wv2j)

53 It's finally patriotic to buy Japanese cars. Whodathunkit?

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 12:39 PM (dcKUM)

54 Shit's working.

Posted by: The System at December 30, 2009 12:39 PM (YQTVx)

55
I'm saving jobs by lending giving money to failed companies so they can meet their payrolls!!!

Posted by: President Brink Puller at December 30, 2009 12:40 PM (z37MR)

56

43 Can the Chinese cut us off completely (buying all our debt)?  Aren't they locked in a vicious circle with us?   That being asked, I hope they can at least cut back their purchases... but that will bring higher interest rates and inflation.

Unfortunately,(?)  the Chinese are headed for their own little meltdown. They have been going fast a furious and have enough new, empty commercial office space that it will take 40 years to even fill it. As a result they are floating paper all over and that house of cards is about to implode...........

Posted by: David Brinkley Back from the Dead at December 30, 2009 12:40 PM (rVJH4)

57 Ford is made by UAW. Why would you support them in any way?

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 12:40 PM (dQdrY)

58 sock brink!

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 12:40 PM (rVJH4)

59
My son has a used F-150 with over 100,000 miles on it.  He's loaning it to a family friend while he's a boot camp.  The truck runs like a dream and he hasn't had any problems with it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 12:40 PM (UOM48)

60 Wheeeee!!!!

Posted by: Cloward-Piven at December 30, 2009 12:41 PM (DrWcr)

61
David Brinkley is dead?

Wow, I guess I got so used to seeing his mummy-face on Face the Nation all those years I guess I thought he was the living dead.

Posted by: Posted by at December 30, 2009 12:42 PM (z37MR)

62 I'm proud to say Nebraskans will get free cigarette lighters in all their cars. Am I good or what?

Posted by: Ben Nelson at December 30, 2009 12:43 PM (YQTVx)

63 Hey, so I can get my Corvette for free, right? Since I own part of GM now.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 12:43 PM (KAeFk)

64

Beeeffin+

 

Posted by: maddogg at December 30, 2009 12:43 PM (OlN4e)

65 Can they "inject" a bit of those bailout funds into my account?  This funemployment is getting old.

Posted by: brak at December 30, 2009 12:44 PM (W5NBA)

66 I'm quiverin' from the awesomeness!

Posted by: Peggy Noonan's dried-up old cooch at December 30, 2009 12:44 PM (dcKUM)

67 re: 51   DAMN, I'm piss@d!!   They're protecting their crony friends.   Capitalism is supposed to involve RISK.  Damn.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 12:45 PM (B5cM9)

68

Hey, so I can get my Corvette for free, right? Since I own part of GM now...

My feeling exactly. But, being a former car salesman, I can't beat the shit out of the piss poor salesman.

I say we ride up to the factory, heavily armed. Blow up every foreign car in the workers lot, and TAKE our pre-paid 'Vette!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 12:46 PM (Wtr9J)

69 This is pocket change. The bigger news is that Fannie and Freddie will receive UNLIMITED additional capital from the Fed and Treasury. UNLIMITED. Did you vote for this? I didn't either.

Posted by: Bugler at December 30, 2009 12:46 PM (YCVBL)

70 61
David Brinkley is dead?

Wow, I guess I got so used to seeing his mummy-face on Face the Nation all those years I guess I thought he was the living dead.

Posted by: Posted by at December 30, 2009 05:42 PM (z37MR)

And I'm guest-hosting this week!

Posted by: Tim Russert at December 30, 2009 12:47 PM (dcKUM)

71 I'll fill out a 1040, when you hand over the keys to my 'Vette! Fuck you barry!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 12:48 PM (Wtr9J)

72 Who knew B+ stood for billions and billions?

Posted by: Barack Princess Obama at December 30, 2009 12:48 PM (Vi7yT)

73 rightzilla, what happens if China melts down?  We'd melt down, too (again and more), wouldn't we, if they can't buy our Treasuries?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 12:48 PM (B5cM9)

74 Capitalism is supposed to involve RISK.

And that is why it is BAD and we are going to protect you from it.  Now, pay up, suckah.

Posted by: Duh Won at December 30, 2009 12:48 PM (9Wv2j)

75

GREAT!

Made an offer on a house on Monday, was accepted Tuesday.  It is a short sale.  Found out today that the lender is GMAC.  This should go smooth... and by "go smooth", I mean man am I fucked.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at December 30, 2009 12:48 PM (C2//T)

76 I have to admit I bought a Dodge Ram in 08 and I'm very happy with it, I've always had a Ford truck but this is a great truck, maybe because I bought it before the crap hit the fan, maybe they'll just send me the title for free after they get out of bankruptcy.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 12:48 PM (nmfvn)

77 I think I'll buy a Cooper Works Mini S for my next car. Lots of funk and very fast around these twisty Ozark highways. Wife already talks to Jesus when I drive, might as well see if I can give her a new experience...

Posted by: maddogg at December 30, 2009 12:48 PM (OlN4e)

78
The old Soviets must be laughing at Obama and saying, "Hey, stupid, you're doing it wrong."

At least the Soviets got a little return for their support of the lazy factory workers. Paying GM's retirees (who never did shit in the first place) isn't gonna give nothing for a return.

Posted by: Posted by at December 30, 2009 12:49 PM (z37MR)

79
Rum @63

Barry's going to work out a deal where everyone gets a Corvette with a Barry O sticker on the bumper and a unicorn in the trunk.

Alas, some libtard might read this and think it's true.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 12:49 PM (UOM48)

80 Goodnight, David! 

Posted by: Chet Huntley at December 30, 2009 12:49 PM (92zkk)

81  rightzilla, what happens if China melts down?  We'd melt down, too (again and more), wouldn't we, if they can't buy our Treasuries?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 05:48 PM (B5cM9)

Other central banks have already given up trying to  prop up the dollar.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 12:49 PM (dQdrY)

82 With our own 500 million dollar bailout, we're back in business, and our new models now come with electronic ashtrays and padded dashboards!

Posted by: Zombie Nash Rambler at December 30, 2009 12:51 PM (dcKUM)

83 Other central banks have already given up trying to  prop up the dollar.

The dollar's been up a little the last few days... Dead cat bounce?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 12:52 PM (B5cM9)

84 what's this "in the past two years" bullshit.

The government didn't start buying car companies and such until 2009.

Posted by: XBradTC at December 30, 2009 12:52 PM (y0E9v)

85 #77Wife already talks to Jesus when I drive...

Damn.  You must drive like Mr. D'oh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 12:52 PM (UOM48)

86 Drudge has a link to a very amusing year-end review by Dave Barry, which includes the following nuggets:

General Motors files for bankruptcy and announces a new sales strategy under which it will go around at night leaving cars in people's driveways, then sprinting away.

Chrysler Corp. declares bankruptcy, but its CEO confidently predicts that the company will come back ``bigger, better and stronger than ever'' thanks to its 2010 product line, spearheaded by the all-new Dodge Despair.

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 12:52 PM (9Wv2j)

87 Barry's going to work out a deal where everyone gets a Corvette with a Barry O sticker on the bumper and a unicorn in the trunk.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 05:49 PM (UOM4

More like Billy Batts in the trunk..

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 12:53 PM (dcKUM)

88
Mark Steyn on Monday was talking about how the Porkulus $$ was being spent on escort services and other such nonsense.

Why wasn't that shit posted here?

Posted by: Posted by at December 30, 2009 12:54 PM (z37MR)

89 Flashback:
April 1st 2009:
GMAC to Resume Subprime Loans
In an effort to boost slumping auto sales, GMAC, the financing arm of General Motors(GM Quote), says it will resume lending to subprime borrowers and reduce some dealer fees.
http://tiny.cc/IViQE

Posted by: paranoid polly at December 30, 2009 12:54 PM (r7Vc3)

90 They'll be taking over US cities soon, also.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 30, 2009 12:55 PM (/Ft4q)

91 I can't help but notice that the booze companies seem to be doing okay during this happy time of hope and change.

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 12:55 PM (9Wv2j)

92 90, Not in Texas they won't, unless we're all dead!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 12:56 PM (nmfvn)

93
The solution is obvious.

We need to do Cash for Clunkers II!!!

Posted by: Posted by at December 30, 2009 12:56 PM (z37MR)

94 76 I have to admit I bought a Dodge Ram in 08 and I'm very happy with it, I've always had a Ford truck but this is a great truck, maybe because I bought it before the crap hit the fan, maybe they'll just send me the title for free after they get out of bankruptcy.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 05:48 PM (nmfvn)

Dodge Rams are great (I've had ths superb Cummings diesel one) and would have been stripped out and saved in any bankruptcy proceeding, but now they are tied into the rest of the shit with the bailed-out Zombie Chrysler.

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 12:56 PM (dcKUM)

95 #91 I can't help but notice that the booze companies seem to be doing okay during this happy time of hope and change.

Ya think? *hic*

Posted by: Max Baucus at December 30, 2009 12:57 PM (UOM48)

96 Yeah, or Oklahoma, I hear.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 30, 2009 12:58 PM (/Ft4q)

97 88  I heard Steyn talking about that, too.  Only place I've heard mention of it, but I don't remember any details.

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 12:58 PM (9Wv2j)

98
Obamanomics: Pay GM to make cars. And then pay people to buy GM cars.

Posted by: Posted by at December 30, 2009 12:58 PM (z37MR)

99 The dollar's been up a little the last few days... Dead cat bounce?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 05:52 PM (B5cM9)

I don't know enough to guess. I think we are in ucharted territory.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 12:58 PM (dQdrY)

100 Personally, I've always been annoyed by the "Buy American" attitude.  Sure, I want people to have jobs, but not at the expense of having to buy inferior products.

I have owned two Subaru's, and currently have a Toyota. ALL were  made in the US.

"Buy American" is code for "Buy Union."

And I don't want my hard earned money going to someone who makes more money than I do, has better benefits than I do, can afford a vacation home, has a boat, but didn't even go to college like I did.

So I buy Japanese cars made by honest, non union workers in America. Screw you UAW!

Posted by: shibumi at December 30, 2009 12:58 PM (OKZrE)

101 73 rightzilla, what happens if China melts down?  We'd melt down, too (again and more), wouldn't we, if they can't buy our Treasuries?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 05:48 PM (B5cM9)

I have no expertiese in finance, but my common sense tells me that since we been borrowing from Peter to pay Paul and Peter is going to be broke soon, then, like Fauruk, we need a new Peter.

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 12:58 PM (rVJH4)

102 90 They'll be taking over US cities soon, also.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 30, 2009 05:55 PM (/Ft4q)

When Barry bails out California, the U.S, Government will own the state and dictate how it operates from that point on.  That should be a winning formula.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at December 30, 2009 12:58 PM (Vu6sl)

103 We're holding our own, too.

Posted by: Sig Sauer at December 30, 2009 12:58 PM (BFqyO)

104

The dollar's been up a little the last few days

This has happened coinciding with somewon's vacation.

Posted by: Ministry of Fiction at December 30, 2009 12:59 PM (F8sIP)

105 I've been keeping an eye out for Obama stickers on cars in recent weeks.

A year ago they were everywhere.

Now, have not spotted one since seeing one on a Prius back in early November.

SF Bay area, BTW.


Still lots of them around in SoCal, but I've definitely seen the numbers drop.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2009 12:59 PM (l1Wlr)

106
Well, put someone on it, Peaches!

Maybe Gabriel can do the legwork on it and write a good post for a change.

Posted by: Posted by at December 30, 2009 12:59 PM (z37MR)

107 I call first in line for a bailout!

Posted by: Detroit Michigan at December 30, 2009 01:00 PM (BFqyO)

108 103 We're holding our own, too.

Posted by: Sig Sauer at December 30, 2009 05:58 PM (BFqyO)

 

Got me a P232 locked and loaded and ready for home invaders!

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 01:01 PM (rVJH4)

109

When Barry bails out California, the U.S, Government will own the state and dictate how it operates from that point on.  That should be a winning formula.

I expect no changes, since the Federal Government is now running on the California model.

Posted by: maddogg at December 30, 2009 01:01 PM (OlN4e)

110 Posted by, I know I'm kinda bossy, but I'm not running teh HQ yet, lol!  And lay off of Gabe, willya?  Jeez.

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 01:02 PM (9Wv2j)

111
When I see an Obama sticker on a car, I immediately assume the person behind the wheel is a complete idiot.  And on more than one occasion, I've pulled up next to one at a light and done a little eye-roll in their direction.

Saw a great sticker the other day:  HOW'S THAT HOPE AND CHANGE WORKING OUT?

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 01:03 PM (UOM48)

112 I wonder when the Chinese are going to summon him for another little chit chat.

Very, very soon I suspect.  The US ITC ruling today that went against the Chinese isn't going to sit well at all, and will very likely reignite a counter-dumping claim the Chinese made against US Steel earlier this year.

Todays ITC "victory" for US Steel/Unions may turn out to be Pyrrhic if the Chinese decided to shift business to Posco/Mechel/Mittal to fill any gaps in their domestic steel production...and why wouldn't they?  Shipping heavy shit, like steel, to China from Korea, Russia, or India has to be cheaper than shipping it from the US.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 30, 2009 01:04 PM (YO0c+)

113 My brink is getting sore. My ass hurts too. LMTFO barry.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 01:04 PM (Wtr9J)

114

The market is all bullshit. It has the attention span of a four year old.

It's waiting for more govenement handouts, and doesn't look right over the hill at the currency shitstorm to come.

Remember the Internet Bubble? A retarded chicken could have seen that coming.. Not the boys on Wall Street, who were too busy selling billions of pets.com scam stock.

Actual business profits and decent management are a whole other universe...

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 01:04 PM (dcKUM)

115 Time for Change!

Posted by: outta control car racing to the brink of hell at December 30, 2009 01:04 PM (rVJH4)

116 107 I call first in line for a bailout!

Posted by: Detroit Michigan at December 30, 2009 06:00 PM (BFqyO)

Too late.

Posted by: California at December 30, 2009 01:05 PM (Fbdn3)

117 I find the view of the Capitol so inspiring these days...



http://bit.ly/5jwbfd

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 01:06 PM (BFqyO)

118 LEMME OUTTA HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Stretch Armstron stuck in Obama's pooter at December 30, 2009 01:06 PM (rVJH4)

119 All ur baylots r behynd us's

Posted by: waffle house at December 30, 2009 01:08 PM (Wtr9J)

120 Pretty soon we'll be buying gas at the convenience store out of gallon jugs not pumps, hey just like Iran!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 01:09 PM (nmfvn)

121 @Jane D'oh! - don't come to the Soviet State of Washington, then. We've got idiots with Obama stickers all over the damn place. And most of them actually look like tree-hugging retards.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 30, 2009 01:09 PM (/Ft4q)

122 OT - Gallup reupped O back to 53% approval.  This poll is after the undie bomber attempt.  Can't let those lines cross can we guys?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 30, 2009 01:10 PM (DIYmd)

123 This is what it sounds like, when doves cry.

Posted by: Prince at December 30, 2009 01:10 PM (hKyl0)

124 Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 30, 2009 06:04 PM (YO0c+)


Interesting.  I kind of think, though, that they'll let their figurative wallet do their talking for them.

Funny, in a couple of respects.  First, that they seem to understand capitalism better than our own politicians, and second, that these days we need them a lot more than they need us.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 01:10 PM (BFqyO)

125

Obama is first rate at making us a third rate nation.

Thanks, 52%.

Posted by: Mallamutt at December 30, 2009 01:11 PM (hKyl0)

126

And lay off of Gabe, willya?  Jeez.

What she said.

Posted by: Roadking at December 30, 2009 01:12 PM (JpfXc)

127 120 Pretty soon we'll be buying gas at the convenience store out of gallon jugs not pumps, hey just like Iran!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 06:09 PM (nmfvn)

We'll be lucky to not be trading ammunition for gas if this shit keeps up.

Posted by: WisConbowhunter at December 30, 2009 01:12 PM (Fbdn3)

128

Saw a great sticker the other day:  HOW'S THAT HOPE AND CHANGE WORKING OUT?

Went to Christmas at the in-laws, who are overwhelmingly Obama voters. Had 2 laid off, one working reduced hours and one just took a significant pay-cut. I really wanted to ask that question...but I promised Mrs. Mallamutt I would behave.

Posted by: Mallamutt at December 30, 2009 01:13 PM (hKyl0)

129 Old Sailor, Savannah is almost as bad.  The city, that is.  We've got SCAD (Sav. College of Art & Design), so we're crawling in artsy hipsters all fall and winter.  And not only do they drive their little Obama sticker covered cars, when they leave in the summer, many of them abandon their poor dogs and cats, leaving them to fend for themselves.  They probably believe Obama sends magic unicorns to carry their unwanted pets off to loving homes.  Fucktards.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 01:14 PM (UOM48)

130

2 -- Sadly, yes.  My daughter just bought a Chevy truck.  It was a private owner deal though; she didn't want to buy anything but Ford or Toyota because GMAC disgusts her.  However, since Oct/Nov it's getting harder than hell to find decent, used, low mileage trucks around here; they get snapped up as soon as they hit the dealer's lots; all that's left is junk (and it's going for way over what it's really worth right now -- older heavy halfs even not so heavy halfs and 3/4's, the market is booming for those around here right now).  This truck was the best deal she could get (and it is a very sweet deal -- I know the guy she bought off of and know the truck).

It sucks, but sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.  At least this is one of the more decent Chevies made.

There will be no O-stickers on it though.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 01:16 PM (5/yRG)

131 That's unusually strong language from you, Madam D'Oh.

I like it.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 01:18 PM (BFqyO)

132 I will never in my life own a GM vehicle.

Posted by: crosspatch at December 30, 2009 01:18 PM (ZbLJZ)

133 129, I had a Captain in 'Nam Vic Allifi that was from your town.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 01:18 PM (nmfvn)

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 01:20 PM (BFqyO)

135 How soon until Chevrolet is renamed "Trabant"?

Posted by: Barry at December 30, 2009 01:22 PM (ktKOD)

136 many of them abandon their poor dogs and cats, leaving them to fend for themselves

Jane, I feel the same way about people who do that.  I just want to beat them bloody.

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 01:23 PM (9Wv2j)

137 Grew up in Seattle with all the freakin bird kissin, tree huggin fern feelers. Was on the Kittitas County Planning Commision in the early 90's. HUGE growth management legislation at the time mandating counties to comprehensive plan. What it really was, was a land grab. Reducing use rights to the point where farmers were losing 50% production if the libs had their way. Glad to be gone from that God forsaken state! Did I mention taht over 50% of teh land in teh state was ALREADY either state or federally owned?

Posted by: rightzilla at December 30, 2009 01:24 PM (rVJH4)

138

I went truck shopping recently--looking at comparable 4x4 trucks.  Ford, Toyota and GMC/Chevy. 

Toyota had the best price, followed very closely by Ford.  Almost identical options, similar quality, similar designs. 

The GMC and Chevy equivalents were not as designed as well, and cost significantly more.  It is absolutely crazy. 

 

Posted by: Joe at December 30, 2009 01:25 PM (P/q7X)

139 Out damn "Barry" sockpuppet

Posted by: sherlock at December 30, 2009 01:25 PM (ktKOD)

140 If someone ever tried to hurt my dawg I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them very badly!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 01:25 PM (nmfvn)

141 #136 Peaches, come on down (bring your own baseball bat).  I do have Mr. D'oh's golf clubs we could use. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 01:26 PM (UOM48)

142 OT:

I took a wander over to LGF, a site I used to frequent...well, frequently. The last year or two? Not so much.

And from what I can tell on the site, not for many other people either. There are many "open threads," the dreaded "creationist" post, and a few others, most of which have under 300 comments.

Back in the day, they would have around 1,000.

Happy Birthday AOS!!

Posted by: shibumi at December 30, 2009 01:27 PM (OKZrE)

143 Right you are, rightzilla. But I think we need people like you back here.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 30, 2009 01:28 PM (/Ft4q)

144

I know tis is off topic, but please help me out.

I'm looking for a good analisys on the problems with the current Health Care Bill's.

Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at December 30, 2009 01:29 PM (ymwj3)

145 Jane, it's been happening a lot in California with people walking away from the houses they couldn't afford to begin with --  not in my neighborhood, but further east.  It's just despicable.  California also has a HUGE glut of abandoned chihuahas right now.  Some lady in Denver donated a bunch of money to fly planeloads of them to other states where they'd have a better chance of being adopted.  I guess they're not trendy anymore.  *spits*

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 01:29 PM (9Wv2j)

146

I just don't see what all the fuss is about.  The government still has ink - paper...  the printing presses are still working.  You make it sound like printing more money is something hard. 

Sheesh.  Get a grip.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 30, 2009 01:30 PM (r1h5M)

147 "GMAC will become the sixth company the U.S. has taken control of in the past two years"

Free government cheese for Acorn peeps forever!!!

Posted by: PJ at December 30, 2009 01:30 PM (Qpxxz)

148 144, Did you ever see the Braveheart movie, a line in there said "we're fucked"! Did that answer your question?

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 01:31 PM (nmfvn)

149 Crap, Peaches.  I hope they don't end up as the "pets" to some spoiled SCAD students.  Or we'll be looking to ship them somewhere else when school lets out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 01:31 PM (UOM48)

150 However, since Oct/Nov it's getting harder than hell to find decent, used, low mileage trucks around here; they get snapped up as soon as they hit the dealer's lots; all that's left is junk

That's the way it always is here in Texas. You want a decent, used, full size truck, you better keep your eyes peeled to the lots every day and pick up the free weeklys the first day they come out. Trucks are more valuable than gold around here.

Posted by: koopy at December 30, 2009 01:31 PM (XllG0)

151 rightzilla, I'm a distinct minority among my friends and family, but even they have their limits.  My Dad got reported by some nosy neighbor for FEEDING SQUIRRELS in his own yard.  Evidently, it's against the regulations/law.  He's gotten a "cease and desist" letter from the Health Dept.  Though a good Lib, he is p!ssed about the whole thing.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 01:31 PM (B5cM9)

152 146

I just don't see what all the fuss is about.  The government still has ink - paper...  the printing presses are still working.  You make it sound like printing more money is something hard. 

Sheesh.  Get a grip.

Hey, I'm workin' my ass off here.

Posted by: The printing press at December 30, 2009 01:32 PM (Fbdn3)

153

We'll be lucky to not be trading ammunition for gas if this shit keeps up.......

Ya gotta problem using 1 bullet for a whole tank of gas? Man up, or go the fuck back to D-koz/sarc

Posted by: waffle house at December 30, 2009 01:34 PM (Wtr9J)

154 "California also has a HUGE glut of abandoned chihuahas right now." My daughter rescued one. Cool dog. It's about the size of a cat and it thinks it's a total badass.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 01:35 PM (Cctty)

155 Who would buy a government motors car? Can you imagine the depreciation.

Posted by: bill-tb at December 30, 2009 01:36 PM (y+QfZ)

156

Crumbling Obama legacy succumbs to systemic failures and Obama bumbling stupidity, but mostly to Obama bumbling stupidity.

It had to be said.

Posted by: sherlock at December 30, 2009 01:37 PM (ktKOD)

157

OT -  Fox just reported that the Obama administration says that all the Bush's approach to defeating terrorism did was divide the nation. 

But you all didn't realize that because... we are so... united... and stuff... now... you know... with Obama and everything.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 30, 2009 01:37 PM (r1h5M)

158 GM cars aren't even being used to launder $$$ anymore.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 01:38 PM (Wtr9J)

159 eman, that's wonderful!  I hope they have many happy years together.

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 01:38 PM (9Wv2j)

160 Yeah, with the new Gubmint Motors car, not only are you in the ditch when you drive it off the lot - you're in the ditch when you drive it off the lot.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 30, 2009 01:39 PM (/Ft4q)

161

Yeah, this recovery is holding it's Solid B+ grade, that's for sure.

Merry Christmas, kids.  Another albatros around the neck of your future wages and salary.

Posted by: DocJ at December 30, 2009 01:40 PM (AWzOz)

162

154 "California also has a HUGE glut of abandoned chihuahas right now."


My daughter rescued one. Cool dog. It's about the size of a cat and it thinks it's a total badass.

I understand they taste like chicken.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 30, 2009 01:40 PM (r1h5M)

163

Gleichschaltung 

This is just the beginning.

Posted by: Stillwater at December 30, 2009 01:40 PM (qUdDE)

164 163

Gleichschaltung 

This is just the beginning.

Tregulinker

I can make up words to.

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at December 30, 2009 01:45 PM (Fbdn3)

165 I for one think it's the most brilliant economic idea ever. Throw money at things. Whenever I want a scantily clad chick to sit on my lap and wiggle, I throw money at her. Sure, there are ignorant neanderthals who keep parroting that cliche that money doesn't grow on trees. But what is money made of? Paper! Where does paper come from? Trees!

They give me Nobel prizes for this kind of genius.



Posted by: Paul Krugman at December 30, 2009 01:45 PM (sYxEE)

166 Krauthammer's on Fox.  Giving his usual brilliant verbal smackdown of Prez Pantload.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 01:45 PM (UOM48)

167 10 Bush should have said no a year ago.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 05:23 PM (Cctty)

Bush never said yes to a bailout of GMAC.  Though the Bush Administration did approve a late-December deal to allow GMAC to become a bank, even though it had to waive about a jillion rules to do so. 

GMAC's auto finance business is actually not in bad shape.  It's been dragged down the toilet by its subprime mortgage business, which was run by a bunch of morons.  For some reason when the market turned in 2007 they decided to keep the subprime guys and canned all the execs that had run the successful prime mortgage business.  Then those guys finally got canned and they brought in some nincompoop from Bear Stearns to run the mortgage business.  Now that he has also proven an abject failure, they need some more of our money to give them time to close the damn thing down, which they should have done in 2007 when it was apparent they were going to lose their shirts on their subprime book.

I doubt they will be able to sell much of the mortgage business.  Maybe the servicing group, which seems to still be making some money, and the Ditech brand may be worth a few bucks.  But that's it.  Another 5000 jobs will be kaput, too. 

Posted by: rockmom at December 30, 2009 01:45 PM (w/gVZ)

168

I understand they taste like chicken.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 30, 2009 06:40

No strays in mt 'hood since the Chinese restaraunt opened.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 01:46 PM (Wtr9J)

169 I understand they taste like chicken. Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 30, 2009 06:40 No strays in mt 'hood since the Chinese restaraunt opened. Posted by: hutch1200 Nice dog. How much he weigh?

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2009 01:48 PM (Cctty)

170 Is anybody buying Government Motors cars?

You couldn't give me one. Well, that would depend: if I'm free to sell it and buy a car of my choosing with the proceeds, then, yes I'll take one.

If I have to drive the POS, then no, I wont accept it.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 30, 2009 01:49 PM (BDH94)

171 The Economic Pirate:

http://bit.ly/7KbTco

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 01:50 PM (BFqyO)

172 Wiki it, Wolf Blitzer

Posted by: Stillwater at December 30, 2009 01:50 PM (qUdDE)

173 Been real guys, but I'm off to cook up some chicken fried steaks for supper, w/homemade gravy and veggies.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 30, 2009 01:51 PM (nmfvn)

174 Hoo boy.  Krauthammer is going to weigh in on the Cheney-Barry feud. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 01:51 PM (UOM48)

175 All of the money injected by the Treasury will essentially go to shoring up GMAC’s ResCap unit, the arm best known for ditech.com

Damn! Lost another bailout to Ditech!

Posted by: Countrywide at December 30, 2009 01:52 PM (sYxEE)

176 Later, 'Nam!  Give Dawg a belly scratch for me.

Posted by: Peaches at December 30, 2009 01:52 PM (9Wv2j)

177 'Nam always makes me hungry.  I'll bet he's a great cook.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 01:54 PM (UOM48)

178 170 Is anybody buying Government Motors cars?

I would love the new Camaro though. Damn

Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2009 01:54 PM (sYxEE)

179 Ally Bank. Never heard of her.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 30, 2009 01:56 PM (5I0Yr)

180 I'll take stupidest mulatto Presidents for a thousand, Alex.

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at December 30, 2009 01:56 PM (dcKUM)

181 Wolf, you know we 86'd you for your own good, right?

Posted by: Alex Trebek at December 30, 2009 01:58 PM (9Wv2j)

182

Slightly O/T from Newsbusters: Ronald Reagan’s economic recovery program generated the greatest peacetime expansion in history. That is fact. To this day, the "news" media report it as a failure. Obama’s economic program thus far has been a disaster. That is fact. To this day, the "news" media "report" it as a "recovery." George Orwell would be proud.

My biggest question is for those (libs) who consider themselves "informed", why do they refuse to see this when it is right in front of their faces?

Posted by: Bill R. at December 30, 2009 01:58 PM (EhlQq)

183 When I see an Obama sticker on a car, I immediately assume the person behind the wheel is a complete idiot. And on more than one occasion, I've pulled up next to one at a light and done a little eye-roll in their direction. I point and laugh at them.

Posted by: DSkinner at December 30, 2009 01:59 PM (ZZd9o)

184 Financial lemmings:

http://bit.ly/6zUiu6

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 30, 2009 02:03 PM (BFqyO)

185 So I suppose that Bernanke is out buying a lot more green ink at Sams'.

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 02:05 PM (dcKUM)

186 Is the Economic version of Ebonics called "Ebanomics"?

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 02:07 PM (dcKUM)

187

186

Heh, nice

Posted by: WisConbowhunter at December 30, 2009 02:09 PM (Fbdn3)

188 144, "I'm looking for a good analisys on the problems with the current Health Care Bill's." Posted by: TSgt Ciz ... Check the Ben Nelson thread, and also read some of the opinion pages in the last few weeks over at WSJ. They are excellent. I have many links from the last few weeks, but the TinyURL bullshit makes them impossible to post. PIXY?????? HELP!!!!!

Posted by: reichwingnut at December 30, 2009 02:09 PM (7K04W)

189 Bush should have said no a year ago.

Bush is an idiot yet, I see people occasionally talking up Jeb for a run. Are y'all fucking nuts?

Posted by: Barbarian at December 30, 2009 02:10 PM (EL+OC)

190 I LOVE MY JEEP! Sorry, bandwidth problems... had to yell.

Posted by: Flatfender at December 30, 2009 02:10 PM (+Z5RN)

191 I give this move 2 snaps up, in a circle!

Posted by: zombie karl marx at December 30, 2009 02:12 PM (cniXs)

192

Pet abandoners are sickening.  Frankly, if caught they should be forced (at gun point if need be) to man up and do the right thing - put the poor criter down by their own hand.  Nothing like having to shoot your own pet to firm up one's grasp on reality. 

Regarding the Chinese cutting us off, I'm sure we'd just monetize the debt.  They government will push this until it collapses.

As for this GMAC bail out, I do wonder what it will bring.  Nothing good, probably, and I certainly am no fan of the Obama economic "plan."  But the worst effects will probably be long term, rather than near term.  We worry about inflation because of the money printing, but inflation only happens when the money supply is adequate to drive up the demand for limited goods, thereby raising prices.  At this stage the cash hoarding is preventing any of that from happening.  We're practically begging folks to start spending, and the factories are way underutilized.  A lot of the "wealth" that was destroyed in the crash was simply paper or theoretical, and filling up that hole with more paper doesn't seem to be having much ill effect.  If the Fed can suck the money back up when things turn for the better (if they ever do) the problem of printing money may not be that bad.

Anyway, a possible up side of all this is that we royally fuck China and leave them high and dry with nothing to show for their "investment."  I would love to see that.  After all, it's their currency manipulation, export subsidies, and intellectual property piracy that are to blame for our trade deficit with them and much of the destruction of US manufacturing.  They're the ones gaming the trade system.  Fuck them.  I can't wait for their government controlled economy to do what all centrally planned economies do - crash and burn.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 02:12 PM (4nbyM)

193 Bush is an idiot yet, I see people occasionally talking up Jeb for a run. Are y'all fucking nuts?

Posted by: Barbarian at December 30, 2009 07:10 PM (EL+OC)

I'm all for a Constitutional Amendment that would ban anybody named "Bush" from ever being elected President again.

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 02:12 PM (dcKUM)

194 You know, I bet I can algore-ithm that code behind my post to an IP... (told you he invented it.) (+Z5RN)

Posted by: +l33t at December 30, 2009 02:12 PM (+Z5RN)

195 Bush is an idiot yet, I see people occasionally talking up Jeb for a run. Are y'all fucking nuts?

Posted by: Barbarian at December 30, 2009 07:10 PM (EL+OC)

If Bush is an idiot then Obama must be borderline retarded.

Posted by: WisConbowhunter at December 30, 2009 02:14 PM (Fbdn3)

196

Been real guys, but I'm off to cook up some chicken fried steaks for supper, w/homemade gravy and veggies.

Lamb cassoulet here. I took a healthy recipe using chicken and corrupted it.

Trucks are more valuable than gold around here.

Living outside of Texas for a couple months now, it's soooo weird to see so many sedans. I'd forgotten what they looked like.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 02:14 PM (Be4xl)

197 194 You know, I bet I can algore-ithm that code behind my post to an IP... (told you he invented it.) (+Z5RN) Posted by: +l33t at December 30, 2009 07:12 PM (+Z5RN) ... Try downloading the PyCute code, you probably can skip re-inventing the hash algorithm when its OPEN SOURCE! Rainbow tables, FTW!

Posted by: reichwingnut at December 30, 2009 02:15 PM (7K04W)

198 Teh funny from Dave Barry, kind of OT:

General Motors, which has sold only one car in the past year -- a Buick LaCrosse mistakenly purchased by an 87-year-old man who thought he was buying a power scooter -- announces a new four-part business plan, consisting of (1) dealership closings; (2) factory shutdowns;(3) worker layoffs; and (4) traveling backward through time to 1955.

Posted by: shibumi at December 30, 2009 02:16 PM (OKZrE)

199 I'm all for a Constitutional Amendment that would ban anybody named "Bush" from ever being elected President again.

Let's add "Clinton" and "Obama" to that list, too!

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 02:16 PM (B5cM9)

200 Is this blog only open from 9 to 5?

Posted by: Dr. Spank at December 30, 2009 02:16 PM (YQTVx)

201 "If Bush is an idiot then Obama must be borderline retarded." --- new sig for my email! Thanks!

Posted by: reichwingnut at December 30, 2009 02:17 PM (7K04W)

202 Mama AJ, you sound like a girl after my own heart.  I've grown so bored cooking "healthy" stuff for the two of us.  Can't wait to get my kid home in a couple of weeks (yay!) and feed him all the good stuff he (and Mr. D'oh) loves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 02:17 PM (UOM48)

203 Down with the aristocracy. No more than one federal office per family per century.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 02:17 PM (dQdrY)

204 Chicken fried steaks - Big Spring's contribution to World Cuisine.

Posted by: TexasJew at December 30, 2009 02:19 PM (dcKUM)

205
Yawn.  *tapping fingers*

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 02:19 PM (UOM48)

206 Jane? What's on the menu for the reunion? You know the kid is gonna need some of momma's best.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at December 30, 2009 02:20 PM (rQTdM)

207 Yawn.  *tapping fingers*

What happened here ?? Did the hobos kidnap all the fun to ?

Posted by: paranoid polly at December 30, 2009 02:22 PM (r7Vc3)

208 203 Down with the aristocracy. No more than one federal office per family per century.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 07:17 PM (dQdrY)

I'm not sure I agree.  Next time (if ever) we get somebody in with some intelligence and good sense we should make them aristocrats.  (I'm not trusting the voting majority around this country any more.)  Put them in charge, force them to educate their first born sons to be in charge of that office in perpetuity, and to spend their entire adult lives doing the job.  If they fail to do a good job, kill them AND their offspring and start fresh. 

I could live with a King Reagan or a Queen Sarah.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 02:22 PM (4nbyM)

209

Jane, we couldn't get lamb for 4 years and we've always loved it, so I just keep buying it almost weekly! Not so great for the grocery bill, but I just can't stop myself.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 02:23 PM (Be4xl)

210 #206 He loves my late mother's spaghetti sauce.  But I make a mean lasagna, too.  And he dearly loves my Caesar salad.  And chocolate molten cakes.  I've been working on his homecoming menu in my head since he left.

Now if he can just (please God) avoid getting injured during the crucible.  I've heard stories of guys who broke arms, etc. and had to heal up and start back at a certain point.  I don't think I could take it.  And I know it would kill him.  He's got so many great friends in his platoon.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 02:25 PM (UOM48)

211 Damn, when Soros shorts an economy he make sure it comes down all they way.  

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2009 02:26 PM (xCBQ4)

212 I love lamb.  Which reminds me, why haven't I made braised lamb shanks this winter? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 02:26 PM (UOM48)

213 Try downloading the PyCute code, you probably can skip re-inventing the hash algorithm when its OPEN SOURCE! Rainbow tables, FTW! Sorry, I was busy with changing my DL number agin' Gotta do the serial numbers on the hundreds in my pocket again, I'm trying to crash a satellite, into another one. Does anybody - but me, find it disturbing that Janny-Nappy is probably carrying a badge and gun?

Posted by: +l33t at December 30, 2009 02:27 PM (+Z5RN)

214

I could live with a King Reagan or a Queen Sarah.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 07:22 PM (4nbyM)

Or we could have folks earn the vote by serving in the military. Take away the vote from those drawing a govt. check for anything other than a pension. Universal suffrage is the poison. The Founding Dads knew this.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 02:27 PM (dQdrY)

215 I saw a bumper sticker today and it made me smile. Is said: Is It 2012 Yet? Nice.

Posted by: RJ at December 30, 2009 02:27 PM (2jp4I)

216

210 Now if he can just (please God) avoid getting injured during the crucible.

Truly, it is tough but when the last mile is behind, he'll know what a Marine and that he'll always be a Marine.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at December 30, 2009 02:28 PM (rQTdM)

217 And I think she field tested the millimeter deep fryer, about three feet down Ace's main page? Looks like her. Fess up Ace, you're into closet x-ray porn.

Posted by: +l33t at December 30, 2009 02:30 PM (+Z5RN)

218 Does anybody - but me, find it disturbing that Janny-Nappy is probably carrying a badge and gun? Her carrying? Pffft. The fact the she has hundreds of agents under her that really can shoot? Yes.

Posted by: fluffy's center mass at December 30, 2009 02:31 PM (4Kl5M)

219 Wonder if I can hit Timmy up for a couple million.  That should be 'chump change' for him.

Posted by: GarandFan at December 30, 2009 02:31 PM (ZQBnQ)

220 section 19 of the coinage act is such a farce.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at December 30, 2009 02:32 PM (hCQG5)

221 The US Treasury would get a facepalm, but nooooooo... no long strings of "annoying" characters.

Meh.

Posted by: Patrik Pacard at December 30, 2009 02:32 PM (HGT8c)

222 #216  You know what's been interesting?  He wrote before Christmas that the thing that surprised him most was that boot camp "wasn't as hard" as he'd thought it would be.  But then he was in really good shape physically to start with.  And as one of his DI's told him, "you've got a passion for this." 

Now he's going to have to worry about his prissy CiC.  Dammit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 02:32 PM (UOM48)

223 Universal suffrage is the poison. The Founding Dads knew this.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 07:27 PM (dQdrY)

Amen, and amen.  Preach on, brother Rodent.  Frankly, if we'd just stuck with a system where male property owners were the only ones voting we wouldn't be in this mess.  Ever see the chart that shows the Federal budget leading up to, and following, womens' suffrage? 

That's what started all this molly coddling of the scum of humanity.  And who was it that was behind Prohibition?  The Women's Christian Temperance Movement, which as my uncle likes to say was neither Christian nor temperate.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 02:35 PM (4nbyM)

224

I could live with a King Reagan or a Queen Sarah.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 07:22 PM (4nbyM)

 

Not for me, nor any free thinking man.  A monarchy makes citizens into subjects, much like the O administration is trying to do.  I won't willingly  allow my rights to be turned into privileges to be given or taken on the whims of others.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 30, 2009 02:35 PM (Poe30)

225 213, Posted by: +l33t at December 30, 2009 07:27 PM (+Z5RN) ... You know, bud, they have meds for that. Don't worry, 211 is only phone call away. Post your phone number, and I'll send help for you! ;-)

Posted by: reichwingnut at December 30, 2009 02:40 PM (5ddCw)

226

Not for me, nor any free thinking man.  A monarchy makes citizens into subjects, much like the O administration is trying to do.  I won't willingly  allow my rights to be turned into privileges to be given or taken on the whims of others.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 30, 2009 07:35 PM (Poe30)

You're assuming an absolute monarchy, which is not optimal.  A constitutional monarchy is far more moderate - with clear and accepted limitations on monarchal power.  Let's not forget that it was not the monarchy that made England what it is today - it was letting the Parliment take all the power.  An Englishman was WAY WAY more free in the time of Queen Victoria, or King George III for that matter, than he is now.  Or, for that matter, than WE are now.  I'd rather be the subject of a moderately good king/emperor than the so-called "citizen" who is just as much a slave (moreso, really) to mob-rule.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 02:41 PM (4nbyM)

227 Do the math, 300 million handguns, 9 Billion rounds of ammo purchased THIS year, up from last year's 7 Billion. I doubt the ENTIRE national guard has 300 million rounds. I'm just sayin'

Posted by: +l33t at December 30, 2009 02:41 PM (+Z5RN)

228 #98 heh heh heh good one!

Posted by: torabora at December 30, 2009 02:41 PM (yGQ/+)

229 This is getting really discouraging.

Posted by: B+ust of Churchill at December 30, 2009 02:44 PM (GWdsJ)

230 The King Republic is dead. Long live the King Republic.

Posted by: Old Sailor at December 30, 2009 02:45 PM (/Ft4q)

231

 And as one of his DI's told him, "you've got a passion for this." 

Boy, that will motivate a young Marine.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at December 30, 2009 02:49 PM (rQTdM)

232 King Reagan -> Prince Ronnie Jr.

Um. No.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at December 30, 2009 02:49 PM (hCQG5)

233 Anybody want an education, as to why Rome fell. This type of government tends to last years and years, but rots from apathy, from within... Lookup "Water Empire" Notice any parallels?

Posted by: +l33t at December 30, 2009 02:50 PM (+Z5RN)

234

Breaking news: substituting lamb and using good red wine makes cassoulet extra supper yummy.

And now back to...not much.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 02:51 PM (Be4xl)

235 Historically, dictatorships follow liberal democracies. People will be flailing around looking for a "savior."

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 02:52 PM (dQdrY)

236 Damn, Mama AJ.  Where'd you get the recipe? 

Sure is quiet around here tonight.


Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 02:53 PM (UOM48)

237 Can you spell fascism

Posted by: Gaz at December 30, 2009 02:54 PM (EmZzp)

238 235 Historically, dictatorships follow liberal democracies. People will be flailing around looking for a "savior."

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 07:52 PM (dQdrY)

You mean I'm not it?

Posted by: Barry O. at December 30, 2009 02:55 PM (Fbdn3)

239 at this point in time, $3.8 billion is just an accounting error.... why all the fuss?

/white smoke

Posted by: Ministry of Obfuscation at December 30, 2009 02:55 PM (d1FhN)

240 "77 I think I'll buy a Cooper Works Mini S for my next car. Lots of funk and very fast around these twisty Ozark highways. Wife already talks to Jesus when I drive, might as well see if I can give her a new experience... Posted by: maddogg"

Where 'bouts are you??  I like 160 out past my old home town of Doniphan..

"163

Gleichschaltung"


Gesundheit...

Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at December 30, 2009 02:56 PM (o4Xi+)

241 237 Can you spell fascism

Posted by: Gaz at December 30, 2009 07:54 PM (EmZzp)

mmmmmm...O.B.A.M.A mmmmmmmm...

Posted by: WisConbowhunter at December 30, 2009 02:57 PM (Fbdn3)

242 Why so serious?

Posted by: The real joker is Obama's mom. at December 30, 2009 03:00 PM (+Z5RN)

243 I think Ace is out celebrating his anniversary. Can't blame him if he is.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at December 30, 2009 03:03 PM (YQTVx)

244 229 This is getting really discouraging.

At least in the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at December 30, 2009 03:03 PM (otlXg)

245 Breaking news: substituting lamb and using good red wine makes cassoulet extra supper yummy. My wife makes great cassoulet. The secret to healthy eating: Drop the starch, substitute bacon grease and vegetables.

Posted by: fluffy around the middle at December 30, 2009 03:05 PM (4Kl5M)

246 >>At least in the end, there will be only chaos.


The end must be near then.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at December 30, 2009 03:06 PM (YQTVx)

247 Yes, dictatorship often follows a republic in decline.  Caesar crosses the rubicon, Petraus crosses the Potomac?  That's my father in laws prediction.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 30, 2009 03:07 PM (Poe30)

Posted by: GregInSeattle at December 30, 2009 03:09 PM (B5cM9)

249

Speaking of abandoning pets -- I don't know what it's like in other states, but we're having issues with people turning their horses lose.  Abandoning them at auctions has been commonplace for about a year now, turning them loose in the state parks has been going on for the past 6-9 months; now they're just opening up the barn and letting them loose in the middle of the night.  It's horrible -- some of the horses are obviously trash, but now we're seeing decent horses -- ones that aren't skin and bones, have been taken care of and are to all appearances decently trained.

It's not just tragic; it's damn dangerous -- think of those suckers getting out on a highway at night.

 

As for owning a Chevy -- as already stated, sometimes you have to roll the hard six; there just weren't any other vehicles of comparable quality on the lots (which is odd for this time of year around here)...and this guy gave her a sweet deal anyway.  At least it wasn't putting money into the pockets of GM dealers.

 

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 03:09 PM (5/yRG)

250 Petraeus....ah aint got no gud spelin

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 30, 2009 03:09 PM (Poe30)

251

GM sales for November 2009 vs. 2008 are down 1.8%.

The more telling GM sales figure is for CYTD 2009 vs CYTD 2008, down 31.8%.

Chrysler is worse: November down 25.5%, CYTD, down 38%

Circling the drain, they are.

Ford for November, up .1%, for the year, down 18.9% which isn't too bad. Only Subaru and Hyundai are up. 

Source: motorintelligence dot com.

B+ my ass.

Posted by: MLD at December 30, 2009 03:11 PM (MrP32)

252 235 Historically, dictatorships follow liberal democracies. People will be flailing around looking for a "savior."

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 07:52 PM (dQdrY)

Yep.  Usually because they NEED a savior.  The Weimar Republic didn't fall because it was doing such a great job.  The Italian fascists didn't take power from a stable, working government that had a good administration.  Given the choice between rolling the dice on some ambitious dude with what might be some good ideas, and living with the consequences of permanent Liberal rule, I'll happily give the new guy a shot.  Nothing could be very much worse than letting the Liberals take permanent control, except to let the muslims take over (death would be preferable).

 

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 03:12 PM (4nbyM)

253 Dammit,  yet another broadview commercial, by my count that makes 5, with caucasian bad guys.   Guess whites really are evil.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 30, 2009 03:12 PM (Poe30)

254

@249   Speaking of abandoning pets -- I don't know what it's like in other states, but we're having issues with people turning their horses lose.

Holy crap.  Don't horses have commercial value?  Glue?  Dog food?  They should at the very least be sold for processing, if they can't be kept up.  What a waste.  Better a quick death and a productive use than to become road kill or stave in the wilderness.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 03:15 PM (4nbyM)

255 171 The Economic Pirate: http://bit.ly/7KbTco ---------- It's fun to charter an accountant and sail the wide accountancy to find, explore, the funds offshore and skirt the shoals of bankruptcy

Posted by: The Crimson Permanent Assurance at December 30, 2009 03:25 PM (LD+ZJ)

256 Someone did me a favor a few years back and totaled my Saturn. The GM wonder that needed a new transmission at 4,000 miles.

I'm now happily driving a KIA Amanti and rooting for Ford to kick ass.

Posted by: Cheri at December 30, 2009 03:26 PM (llSaz)

257

we couldn't get lamb for 4 years and we've always loved it.

Wow, at 1st read I thought it said coldn't get "laid" for 4 years.

Glad to know all is well.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 03:27 PM (Wtr9J)

258

254 -- Not anymore.  The "liberals" got nearly all the processing plants for horses shut down in the U.S.  When that happened (and it had to coincide with an economy that was weakening) the bottom fell out of the horse market.  Plus a lot of stables got cracked down on at the same time -- "liberals" pushing new cruelty/neglect guidelines for horses; they are "pets" and not livestock (one person I know got reported and drug through the courts because she was charged with "making the animals drink and eat where they defecated/urinated and they didn't have any pet beds...wtf??? horses are not chihuahas; they live in freaking stalls -- anyway, totally wiped her out, had to sell everything; now the moonbats are trying to rehome her horses -- some of which they "donated" to a charitable cause: a freaking big cat rescue; these were nice healthy younger horses; now they are cat meat).  Made the price of keeping them skyrocket with no return on the investment.  And the penalties for not following many of the new statutes for keeping them was horrendous ($500 fine per animal, you have to pay for their care while they are impounded, at a usually much inflated rate).  Lots of stables and farms just up and closed their doors.

But some politically well connected land developers made killings on the places;picked them up for well below market price -- so in that regard I hope those frakkers lose their shirts on that ground.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 03:27 PM (5/yRG)

259 I'm sure this is a sad story, but the combination of the headline and the picture cracked me up.

Posted by: koopy at December 30, 2009 03:28 PM (XllG0)

260 Frankly, if we'd just stuck with a system where male property owners were the only ones voting we wouldn't be in this mess. Amen. Although today I'd change it to anyone who pays federal income tax. You can't have more than 50% of the population that doesn't pay taxes vote as well. Then they just vote themselves the treasury. Sometimes I wonder about the value of the 19th amendment, too. And I say this as a woman.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 03:30 PM (gofDd)

261 Ummm, maybe Ace is picking up his van in Manhattan.  You know, the one full of dead hobos that evacuated part of the city today.  Just sayin'....

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 03:31 PM (UOM48)

262

As for my daughter's new GM: one, it isn't new, and two, the old boy she got it from is a family friend.  This was his personal truck, and he dabbles in street rods...it's been a bit...tinkered with (in a very good way).

None of us would touch a Chevy straight off production -- they're crap imho.  But this one?  She couldn't have found anything like this on any dealer's lot for the money he sold to her at.  She could turn around and make money off it.

She would have preferred a Ford, but there are hardly any Ford dealers left down here (and the few there are I would never buy from).

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 03:33 PM (5/yRG)

263 184 Financial lemmings: http://bit.ly/6zUiu6 ------------ http://tinyurl.com/yc6ed7l

Posted by: Magic Christian at December 30, 2009 03:33 PM (LD+ZJ)

264

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 08:27 PM (5/yRG)

Good God.  Just when I think I've heard all the worst, there's yet more horror.  There is no way to describe the intensity of my hate for those leftist bastards.  May they, quite literally, burn to death in a fire.   Only those scum could create a situation where the horse has no economic value.  It's like turning the order of nature completely on its head.  I can't imagine that any purge of the Left in this nation could be vigorous enough.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 03:36 PM (4nbyM)

265

260 -- nah, I know plenty of tax paying men who would vote for our idiot in chief and his cronies over and over again; I also know of a couple of single moms who have to draw welfare that refused to vote for him.  The difference is the single moms in question have common sense (and would appreciate having better shots at actually working so they could get off the govn't dole); the men in question are die hard, progressive kool aide drinkers.  Kinda ironic: those fellows want to vote this shit in to help out people like those ladies, who in turn can't stand the fact that they have to be on the dole to make ends meet and hate the guts of people like those fellows and their social justice ideas.  It's a mixed up world.

Perhaps a test on the Constitution, sorta like a citizenship test?

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 03:38 PM (5/yRG)

266 Amen. Although today I'd change it to anyone who pays federal income tax. You can't have more than 50% of the population that doesn't pay taxes vote as well. Then they just vote themselves the treasury.

Sometimes I wonder about the value of the 19th amendment, too. And I say this as a woman.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 08:30 PM (gofDd)

wherestherum, I can see why you are universally loved on this blog.  The more of your comments I read the more you sound more like the ideal woman.  You should be put in charge of an indoctrination facility for young ladies.  The world would be enriched.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 03:40 PM (4nbyM)

267

Perhaps a test on the Constitution, sorta like a citizenship test?

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 08:38 PM (5/yRG)

The Devil can quote the Bible.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 03:40 PM (dQdrY)

268 Perhaps a test on the Constitution, sorta like a citizenship test?

Wow, that would narrow the voting public down considerably.

Posted by: Cheri at December 30, 2009 03:42 PM (llSaz)

269

Nothing could be very much worse than letting the Liberals take permanent control

Wouldn't last long. Soviet Communism only lasted around 80 years, and the Russian peasant is amazingly fond of being miserable.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 03:44 PM (dQdrY)

270  nah, I know plenty of tax paying men who would vote for our idiot in chief and his cronies over and over again;

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 08:38 PM (5/yRG

I contend that those so-called "men" are the product of an overly feminized society and political culture, and would be far less numerous if not indoctrinated from childhood to think in such unnatural ways. 

But alas, the horse is out of the barn. 

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 03:45 PM (4nbyM)

271 If this keeps up, the ONLY thing of value will be your horse. And O's helicopter...

Posted by: The real joker is Obama's mom. at December 30, 2009 03:45 PM (+Z5RN)

272 There's got to be a way to issue a common sense test. Although I think a test on the Constitution and then explaining each article in layman's terms would be helpful. Or to make it easier, just have every American citizen take the citizenship test every, say presidential election year. If people who want to be citizens can pass that test, there's no reason American born citizens shouldn't be able to.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 03:47 PM (gofDd)

273 As a former horse owner, and lifetime lover of equines, I'm appalled.  Horses have fought with us in wars, and helped to settle this country.  They are intelligent, and when treated with love and respect, return same. 

I live on an island where people think it's sport to come out and abandon their pet cats.  And little libtard art students routinely abandon there dogs and cats in town before leaving town for the summer.

Damn.  My mood just dipped to a whole new low.


Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 03:48 PM (UOM48)

274

Wouldn't last long. Soviet Communism only lasted around 80 years, and the Russian peasant is amazingly fond of being miserable.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 08:44 PM (dQdrY)

So, which country would there be to oppose American communism and bring it down, ala Reagan?  Besides, things aren't exactly coming up roses over there yet.  If not for their oil cash they'd be even more screwed.  I think Russian reform has stalled.  Besides - I hope not to live for 80 more years.  I'm not prepared to wait out a liberal triumph.   Better to check out early and enjoy the afterlife.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 03:48 PM (4nbyM)

275

Jane, here is what I made, with the lamb substitution. Eating Well was the f-ing best in the 90s for healthy yet yummy stuff. Then it went under. I don't know the new version well enough to have an opinion.  

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 03:49 PM (Be4xl)

276 Or to make it easier, just have every American citizen take the citizenship test every, say presidential election year. If people who want to be citizens can pass that test, there's no reason American born citizens shouldn't be able to.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 08:47 PM (gofDd)

I like this idea.  If there is any hassle whatsoever to getting a voter registration the welfare scum and most Libs will never show up to do the work.  That would DECIMATE the Democrats.  Good thinking.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 03:51 PM (4nbyM)

277 266 Thank you, Reactionary. I would dearly love to be in charge of educating the idiot females of today. I would force them to learn etiquette, proper diction and grammar, home economics and how to run a household. In fact, I'd bring back the 1950s. That's not to say women can't be captains of industry, but they damn well better learn the basics to life first.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 03:51 PM (gofDd)

278

There we go -- I think my buddy who can't catch a break could pass it with flying colors, and the damn dumb idiots who are "helping" the likes of her would fail miserably.

 

The men in question are tenured faculty profs -- nuf said right there. 

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 03:51 PM (5/yRG)

279 #273

there = their (rage typo)


Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 03:53 PM (UOM48)

280

wherestherum, I can see why you are universally loved on this blog...and Truck stop bathrooms/sarc

I luvs ya .....

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 03:53 PM (Wtr9J)

281

Glad to know all is well.

Thank you for your concern. I think.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 03:53 PM (Be4xl)

282 273 -- I know; we've got the same thing here: at the end of every semester the local pound fills up and there are strays galore. I've had three dogs and more than a few cats come calling since winter break; breaks my heart but I have to call animal control to come pick them up because their owners are no where to be found. The horse thing makes me sick, and worried.  Some folks have found "new" horses in their pastures, and the state/county drags their feet coming to pick them up (and of course, most decent people won't not feed them); I've taken to padlocking my gates (I have my limit -- can't go over).

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 03:56 PM (5/yRG)

283

wherestherum, Mama AJ. Sorry, I thought this was the ONT.

Carry on adults...

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 03:58 PM (Wtr9J)

284

Didn't the Supremes kill all qualifying tests to vote? They will betray this idea. Ammend the Constitution to end unversal suffrage. It is the only way.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 03:59 PM (dQdrY)

285
Mama AJ, linky no worky, but I have an Eating Well cookbook somewhere.  I'll check it out.  Thanks!



Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 03:59 PM (UOM48)

286

Savory Prosciutto Muffins

(It's food, not Italian porn, you perverts.)

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 04:00 PM (Be4xl)

287 >>There's got to be a way to issue a common sense test.

That would be the property qualification. Got no way to support yourself? Guess what quality you don't have..

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at December 30, 2009 04:00 PM (hCQG5)

288 And little libtard art students routinely abandon there dogs and cats in town before leaving town for the summer. These people should be shot. My two dogs are shelter dog. One was an owner surrender so at least his owner dropped him off a the shelter. The other was probably found wandering the streets. I wouldn't be surprised if her owner just abandoned her. I can't imagine ever abandoning a pet. My heart broke when my dog died last year. I would go broke before I gave up my dogs.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 04:01 PM (gofDd)

289  I would dearly love to be in charge of educating the idiot females of today. I would force them to learn etiquette, proper diction and grammar, home economics and how to run a household.

In fact, I'd bring back the 1950s. That's not to say women can't be captains of industry, but they damn well better learn the basics to life first.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 08:51 PM (gofDd)

Mercy!  This kind of talk warms my heart to the point where my burning hate for the Liberals, while in no way diminished, is suppressed.  To hear such positive things from a woman has me somewhat flummoxed.  So, I must leave this thread, drink some Grey Goose, listen to Sabaton, and refocus my anger back into a hot ball of wrath.  And then go see Sherlock Holmes (which I realize is sort of a non-sequiter but that's my evening plans). 

I wish all fellow right thinking AoSHQ morons a good evening! 

Posted by: Reactionary at December 30, 2009 04:02 PM (4nbyM)

290

277 -- my problem (if you could consider it a problem) is that I've not come into much contact with most of the idiot women.  All of my friends and family are pretty much of the same stripe: keep the government out of my hair, help keep my neighborhood safe and clean (no thugs, no bums, no terrorists) or allow me to protect my own, and make it so I can find a job that allows me to feed and care for my family; the rest I'll take care of myself, thank you.

Admittedly I can't for the life of me understand women (or men) who think differently.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 04:02 PM (5/yRG)

291

www.eatingwell.com /recipes/quick_cassoulet.html

(without the space)

Oh, the link had 2 http's. Blame the really good wine.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 04:04 PM (Be4xl)

292
#286 Mama AJ

Those muffins aren't Italian porn, but they are most definitely food porn.  Yowza.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 04:07 PM (UOM48)

293

(It's food, not Italian porn, you perverts.)

My BIL raised pigs (2) on his farm last year. I thought he was nuts. This year He raised one for me, for wiring his house. I put something big, w/a bone in the middle, in the crockpot. I added a big can of Dinty moore stew. Better than Lobster! His Prosciutto is to kill for!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 04:08 PM (Wtr9J)

294 unknown jane, come to LA and I will show you women who think this way. In fact, I have lots of friends, who even though they hold jobs, believe the government should dictate the majority of their lives. I even have one friend who doesn't believe we're taxed enough. He also thinks Prop 13 in CA, which keeps property taxes reasonable for old folk on fixed incomes, should be repealed because it takes money away from schools. I kid you not. Most of my female friends believe in welfare because they think it helps people. I'm the evil conservative who would kick people off welfare. They think it's cruel that I believe people should either sink or swim.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 04:08 PM (gofDd)

295

289 -- speaking of dogs, that dog we got for my daughter is a really nice one...they've got a few hundred more looking for homes (sorry, I'm an enabler when it comes to prodding people into getting pets who need homes). 

Anyway, he's a really nice dog -- it was a good pick on our part; she loves him.  Heck, I like him (and the sucker's big and is one of the few that bark when strangers come around -- so it's almost like we had our Dobe back...win-win!).

 

As for my horses -- well, when society crumbles we'll have transportation!  We've already taken to pulling them out to go to work in good weather -- really saves on the gas money.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 04:08 PM (5/yRG)

296

My two dogs are shelter dogs.

I'm working on that. My husband and kids (but I repeat myself) will implode if we don't get a puppy, but I want to get a pup and also an older dog from a shelter. One look at the golden retrievers on the goldens' rescue web site and I have to get at least one. They say they've been getting more dogs lately.

Question for y'all with knowledge. Do you think it would be better to get the older dog first or the puppy?

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 04:11 PM (Be4xl)

297 As for my horses -- well, when society crumbles we'll have transportation! We've already taken to pulling them out to go to work in good weather -- really saves on the gas money. I love how the greenies want us to go back to horse transpo. They obviously have not taken into account that horses do not leak oil, but like to pee and poo wherever they stand. And even while they're on the move.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 04:12 PM (gofDd)

298 Heh... this in nothing. Wait till all the Cash-for-Clunkers people default on the cars that they can afford and the government paid their down payments on.

Hey Gubbermint! Here's a clue- people who can't afford stuff can still not afford stuff, no matter how much of my money you throw at them! And another clue- dumping my money repeated into failing companies is not a sound investment strategy.

Hell, I've got a bailout strategy/ economic recovery plan. How about we pick the 100 most successful small to medium business in America- ones with a consistent track record of success, growth and innovation- and give them bailout money. Fuck it, if these idiots insist on handing out my cash against my will, at least put it somewhere where it creates jobs, revenues, growth and profits.

But nooooo... they give it to the crack heads with no job skills, no desire to work and a gazillion $$$ per day smack habit.

Posted by: Damiano at December 30, 2009 04:12 PM (2tsdE)

299 Do you think it would be better to get the older dog first or the puppy? As someone who never owned a dog until 3 years ago, we went with an adult dog. She was already housebroken and knew some commands. We don't have the patience to train a puppy, so it was better for us to have a dog that came pre-trained, so to speak. But if your husband and kids are willing to put in the effort it takes to properly train a dog, go for the puppy. I would also posit, however, that it's more difficult to get adult dogs adopted out because everyone wants puppies. Adult dogs may not have the energy of puppies, but they're just as loving if not more so. Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 04:15 PM (gofDd)

300
Unknown Jane, you'll be thriving when the government teat sucking libs are flailing around like fish on a dock.  Good for you.  I miss having a horse and living in the country.  But I do live on a peaceful island with lots of wildlife.  And our two little female house cats we adopted several years ago are a joy, and fill a void in our lives with the boy away.  And D'oh Boy stocked us up on ammo when he worked at Bass Pro, so there's that.  Heh. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at December 30, 2009 04:15 PM (UOM48)

301

He also thinks Prop 13 in CA, which keeps property taxes reasonable for old folk on fixed incomes, should be repealed because it takes money away from schools.

I heard that twice a day from the time it passed til I graduated high school. And yet, here I am...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 04:16 PM (Be4xl)

302

294 -- they should meet up with these two buddies of mine who have been forced onto welfare; although the two of them have no desire to get within spitting distance of large cities anymore.  Still, it could be real interesting.

I've noticed that (outside of some lazy bums) that most people who are gungho welfare have never had to live on it with little to no hope of getting off of it.  Seriously, I've got two friends and know some more folks around here who hate it like the plague.  They'd like to have their old jobs back and the welfare case workers out of their hair.  Sadly, I think they are becoming a minority.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 04:16 PM (5/yRG)

303 I've noticed that (outside of some lazy bums) that most people who are gungho welfare have never had to live on it with little to no hope of getting off of it. The stigma is gone, too. Just like the stigma of being an unwed mother. It'd be nice to bring back some shame into society. It seems pretty much anything goes these days.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 04:20 PM (gofDd)

304

Yeh, I think getting the older dog first would be easier for me! I've been dragging my feet on getting a dog for YEARS, but I'm running out of excuses. Reasons, I mean reasons.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 04:22 PM (Be4xl)

305

Rum -- heh, heh, it isn't so much the peeing and pooping; it's the fact that a horse is about 1000 lbs. and no Avatar like communing goes on.  You either know how to handle them or you don't -- and not knowing how can cause you all sorts of grief.  There used to be a horse farming days festival near here -- you could try your hand at using a horse drawn plow...it was fun to watch the birkenstock crowd give it a shot (would've been truly something if we'd used a really hard core pull team instead of the broke to death ones that will do it in their sleep).  Ever seen a vegan in sandals trying to man a horse/mule drawn plow? LOL

 

Get the older dog first -- dogs have to establish a pack hierarchy, and usually it goes to the dog with the most senority.  Get the older dog, train it up well and get it acclimated to your household; it'll help teach a pup the ropes.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 04:23 PM (5/yRG)

306 Jane D'oh!

I just started reading, so this is off topic. What is your sisters' clown car with the big O sticker on it?

Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at December 30, 2009 04:25 PM (EhEjd)

307 it's the fact that a horse is about 1000 lbs. and no Avatar like communing goes on. If they had Avatar communing that would be awesome! I'd ridden many a stubborn horse. Especially ones who see grass and don't want to stop munching in the middle of a lesson.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 04:26 PM (gofDd)

308 >>The stigma is gone

Besides food stamps and plastic coins, used to be you could tell the welfare families by their coats. They'd get these horrid orange/brown plaid jobbers....

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at December 30, 2009 04:27 PM (hCQG5)

309 I would prefer a basic citizenship & civics test. If you think politics is corrupt now, try adding an oligarchy back into the mix. The Brits learned that the hard way, by having bought sons of lords representing their districts (a rotten borough). Dare I mention this occurred throughout the Georgian Age, after which there was a Revolution in the Colonies.

http://tinyurl.com/yz4ly4p > rotten boroughs

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 30, 2009 04:27 PM (DxGuW)

310 it'll help teach a pup the ropes.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 09:23 PM (5/yRG)

+1

The house training will be darn near automatic.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 04:29 PM (dQdrY)

311 Well Rum, you don't let them make the decisions (most of the time -- sometimes it's best if you do; couple of mine have gotten me out of some pretty bad scrapes, but they were horses I trusted and that knew and loved their jobs...heh, kinda like people).

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 04:31 PM (5/yRG)

312 >>Question for y'all with knowledge. Do you think it would be better to get the older dog first or the puppy? I'd go with the older one first. If you raise a puppy and then introduce an older dog the pup can tend to be resentful of a new dog. Plus, an older dog can be a great role model for a pup. But be prepared if you go with the Golden Rescue organization, they are real demanding of who they will give a dog. My mom raised Goldens (along with horses) and I have had them ever since and I can tell you that adding one to your family, pup or senior, will give back more than you can imagine.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2009 04:31 PM (VW9/y)

313 We can't have nice things.
http://tinyurl.com/yk5rwlx

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at December 30, 2009 04:31 PM (hCQG5)

314 311 -- can be; these greyhounds (if they're mostly half as good as the one we got) are pretty easy to deal with; they've done their time in the salt mines, know what a job is, and really soak up the whole retirement thing.  This guy is clean, well behaved (ok, he'd love to eat the neighbor's little floof dogs, or at least chase them, so we have to work on that) and just likes hanging out for a change.  He had his last race around Thanksgiving, been on the track for 3 years, likes his leisure time.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 04:34 PM (5/yRG)

315 Miss80sBaby - beg pardon, but I think we've already an oligarchy. Geithner/Bernanke/et al were high mucketies in finance firms directly bailed out in the Stimulus, for example.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at December 30, 2009 04:36 PM (hCQG5)

316

Thanks for the advice, folks!

The house training will be darn near automatic.

Hmm, maybe that will help with the stubborn 4 yr old human...

But be prepared if you go with the Golden Rescue organization, they are real demanding of who they will give a dog.

I noticed they don't want families with kids under 5! The stubborn little guy will be 5 soon enough, though.

They also need families with no pets to foster dogs who are sick or just need to gain weight. We'll see. They are two hours away in Dallas because there aren't any Golden Rescues here in S'port, so we'll see, we'll see.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 04:39 PM (Be4xl)

317 316 Yes, we are; my point is that either type is equally as corrupt.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at December 30, 2009 04:40 PM (DxGuW)

318

OT - I'm still lol-ing at the Politico piece that claims Obama's taking the blame that Bush didn't for the underwear bomber.  Yep, the Left never criticized Bush's actions on 9/11 or its aftermath and never tried to blame him. 

History begins today - once again.

Posted by: societyis2blame at December 30, 2009 04:48 PM (rPDD/)

319 Here's another vote for getting an adult dog first.  Pound dogs need homes, and most of them are trained to some extent.  I've got one that was abused early and labeled as viscious (he wasn't--he was scared).  He's turned out to be a "good boy".  In my book, that's the highest grade.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 30, 2009 04:49 PM (Poe30)

320 Yahoo treats anything Politico puts out as gospel.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 04:50 PM (dQdrY)

321 Scuttlebutt in Detroit is that ResCap is being sold. (I know the article says they will explore a sale, but I've heard that one could be announced in the next few days).

Posted by: DM! at December 30, 2009 04:50 PM (O0Qwy)

322 Jane D'oh!,

Come on, this isn't a trick question!  What make/model do you call a clown car?  That's what I call a Chevy HHR.  Just wondered if it was the same. Mine was bought spring '08, and has a PALIN sticker on it.  Still looks like a clown car though. Just a clown car with class.

Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at December 30, 2009 04:56 PM (EhEjd)

323

It'd be nice to bring back some shame into society

If that were come to be, this blog would be shut down!

BTW...nobody mentioned how much better a dog is than any alarm system.

My boys are getting old enough to be resposnsible to maintain a dog. I will go with the old pound dog. Screw the exotic hierloom breed POS's.

From my childhood, I remember a love being returned from any animal. Excpt chicks!

Why do all my posts turn to shit at the end? 

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 04:58 PM (2n/eJ)

324 Rum, Take charge. Horses are VERY smart. (Pick up a switch, and see if they don't watch your every move. You don't ever have to use it.) When you train them right, you hold out your hand and they sidle right up to you. Born in montana, raised on a ranch in wyoming. My dad gave me a BB gun, when I was 6. ("Don't shoot the cows.") I spent a year shooting at shit and when I hit a cow, I had to bring it back. When I was 7, I got a 30-30 saddle gun. Dad was sure, I would hit a wolf, snake, rustler, bear or democrat, but not a cow.

Posted by: The real joker is Obama's mom. at December 30, 2009 04:58 PM (+Z5RN)

325

324 -- Ha!  I already mentioned the usefulness of having a large dog (who really isn't all that scary, but for some reason people are scared of large dogs) who actually barks when people come up.  Gotcha!

And now, now...what exactly is an "exotic heirloom" dog breed?  All my dogs are working dogs, and the one we just got, while a pedigreed purebred and I suppose "exotic", would've suffered a mighty dicey fate if he hadn't gone into an adoption program.  Dude, don't be a hater! (lol)

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 05:04 PM (5/yRG)

326

My dad gave me a BB gun, when I was 6. ("

I gave my son a Cricket .22 for X-mas. We went shooting X-mas morn. Boy did goood. Had to take him to the Dentist today for his checkup. The assistant asked what he got from Santa. "A .22 that shoots the eyes out of a Perp at 25 yards".    I tried to tell her it was a Nerf gun! She didn't believe me, but didn't hurt him either!

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 05:05 PM (2n/eJ)

327  "exotic heirloom" dog breed...Sorry to offend Jane. Some people in my 'hood love to brag about their 4k dogs. Not that I would turn down a loving animal, but I can't afford the $400 cut/trim every month.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 05:09 PM (2n/eJ)

328 Dude, don't be a hater..Jane I'm no hater of fine animals. Wish I could afford more.

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 30, 2009 05:12 PM (2n/eJ)

329 Anyone who pays $500 or more for a dog is insane. And has more money than sense.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 05:14 PM (gofDd)

330 Yorkies are going for over a grand aren't they?

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 05:15 PM (dQdrY)

331

They don't just take the clippers to them at home? (yeah, my friends do that -- with interesting results sometimes)

As for 4K dogs...only if they're really good at doing some real work (mind you, there are dogs out there that are like that -- but they usually don't get fancy haircuts). Our new hound didn't come close to that cost, doesn't need a fancy haircut...and made about that much on the track.  Now that's more like it (yes, I'm seriously digging this dog...can you tell?).

That's my perfect come back when somebody's bragging on their high priced, spoiled rotten/does nothing pooch -- so, for that price does it do anything worthwhile?

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 05:16 PM (5/yRG)

332 My next dog is going to be an Irish Wolf Hound.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at December 30, 2009 05:16 PM (dQdrY)

333 When I was looking for a dog last year, the shelter had TONS of chihuahuas. People buy them, realize they're annoying as heck, and toss them in the shelter. It's sad. Lots of pit mixes in shelters, too. I love my pit mix. He's a sweetheart.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 05:17 PM (gofDd)

334

329 -- I was giving you a hard time Hutch...kiss, kiss, wink.

 

I'd pay that price for a good, proven working dog -- like a narcotics or bomb sniffer, even a really good schutzhund III dog that was proven and of breedable quality...but those dogs have a bit more going for them than just looking cute.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 05:18 PM (5/yRG)

335 334 -- My eldest has a pit mix, and she's a goofy doll.  Nice pit bulls are great dogs (pity so many people have ruined the breed and given it such a bad rep; they're really nice). We run a babysitting service for the kids' dogs when they're on deployment; I'm going to kind of miss them when they go back to their real homes.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 30, 2009 05:20 PM (5/yRG)

336 hutch1200 Perfect, See, an armed society... is a polite society! Would you pull a gun in a 7-11 if all of the customers were going to shoot you? We don't have a polite society. Watch a few John Wayne movies. He was brought up, to believe, that a man's business was his own. Can you imagine?: Knock,knock,knock County: We need to tear down your house to build a bank. Wayne: Sure! Knock,knock,knock IRS: We're looking for two county agents. And why isn't this bank? Wayne: They want to see you too!

Posted by: The real joker is Obama's mom. at December 30, 2009 05:21 PM (+Z5RN)

337 Well this is what the GOP candidate for Prez in 2012 should run on - selling off all of the nationalized companies.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 30, 2009 05:24 PM (tJ4Ym)

338 Nice pit bulls are great dogs (pity so many people have ruined the breed and given it such a bad rep; they're really nice). Before I got mine, I bought into the pits are bad thing. My sister thought he was cute, plus he was paired with our German shep mix so he came home with us. He's the sweetest dog I've ever met. I think his previous owners abused him as he's a little skittish and doesn't like strange men. But we've had no problems with him. He's a cutie. And paying a lot for working dogs is one thing. But I can't believe a Corgi or a King Charles Spaniel goes for $1600 at a pet store.

Posted by: wherestherum at December 30, 2009 05:25 PM (gofDd)

339

Clicked on a Louisiana golden breeder web site...$900. Damn, I was trying to cope with the $4-500 I was imagining.

Wow, maybe that will help get my husband on board with the shelter idea...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 30, 2009 05:26 PM (Be4xl)

340 Can't the dems just cut to the chase and have a quick vote... Harry Reid: "By a show of hands--who wants the government to run everything? "The 'ayes' have it. The motion is carried. Long live King Obama!"

Posted by: red speck at December 30, 2009 05:29 PM (/vfpn)

341 Boom, The gunpowder plot wins!

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342 I am <b>*STILL*</b> looking for the first dollar...

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343 Doesn't GMAC still sponsor a bowl game?

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