August 29, 2005
— Ace Way back in '97, Mother Jones magazine noted sever liberal pundits calling for the assassination of Saddam Hussein.
Thomas Friedman, foreign affairs columnist, New York Times, Nov. 6: "Saddam Hussein is the reason God created cruise missiles. ...So if and when Saddam pushes beyond the brink, and we get that one good shot, let's make sure it's a head shot."
George Stephanopolous, former Clintonite and current ABC News analyst, on ABC'S "This Week," Nov. 9: "This is probably one of those rare cases where assassination is the more moral course...we should kill him."
Sam Donaldson, co-host of "This Week," Nov. 9: We should kill Saddam "under cover of law.... We can do business with his successor."
Jonathan Alter, Newsweek, Nov. 17: "It won't be easy to take him out. ...But we need to try, because the only language Saddam has ever understood is force."
Newsweek, Dec. 1: "Why We Should Kill Saddam."
But now that Pat Robertson has similarly called (less emphatically) for exploring the assassination option with regard to anti-American thug and dictator Hugo Chavez, the liberal media has its panties in a twist (as usual).
I don't get it. How can they be so transparent?
Mother Jones has apparently been consistent on the issue-- they're against assassination, period, and they don't like it when liberals in the media make noises about assassination, either.
But the establishment media has seen its own call for assassinations and now makes a major story about a political has-been saying something similar.
Chavez is a bad guy who hates America, but none of those conditions apply. It'd be like me coming out and saying we should assassinate Robert Mugabe-- people would be better off with him dead, but it's not a rational act in the interests of the United States Government.
I think that's what sent (intelligent) people for the loop here with Robertson-- post-9/11, assassination doesn't give many liberals/Leftists the willies so much as picking fights with people liberals/Leftists make excuses for. Especially when something like this comes out of the blue-- Hugo Chavez? Isn't there like, a war on? Might as well go all LaRouche, and advocate assassinating the Queen of England (damn British. . . ).
Dave at Garfield Ridge
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at August 29, 2005 08:19 AM (y1hCN)
Posted by: christopher aland at August 29, 2005 08:30 AM (Hmx0Q)
Posted by: Bill at August 29, 2005 08:42 AM (Wq3Yh)
Posted by: Slublog at August 29, 2005 08:47 AM (V7NgR)
Posted by: Bill at August 29, 2005 08:49 AM (Wq3Yh)
Oh, right-- she was "joking."
I'm glad she had the chance to explain her deft pun to the Secret Service.
Posted by: ace at August 29, 2005 08:52 AM (W7JEQ)
Both indicated their support or solictied the support Al Queda. At least Saddam did this before 9/11. Its unforgivable that a world leader can do this after 9/11 and he gets a free pass.
what serious liberal has advocated violence against the president?
I assume you inserted 'serious' in order to give you an out. I further assume that anyone I mention you will discount them as serious.
Randi Rhodes, Ted Rall, members of Moveon, etc. etc. . But they were only joking to make a point, right?
Posted by: Dman at August 29, 2005 08:54 AM (m2CN7)
Rhodes then imitated the sound of a gunshot.
In "Godfather II," Fredo Corleone is executed by brother Michael at the end of the film.
As recounted by Michelle Malking. It was humor, of course. Assassination being so gosh darned funny.
Posted by: S. Weasel at August 29, 2005 08:55 AM (rasT+)
Posted by: Iblis at August 29, 2005 08:59 AM (9221z)
Above is one.
Here is another.
Posted by: Slublog at August 29, 2005 09:03 AM (V7NgR)
Chavez is a twice elected popular leader. Both elections were monitored extensively.
How many terms/years is Chavez limited to?
Dictatorship is not defined by the way a person takes power, but by the unwillingness to give up power.
Posted by: Sue Dohnim at August 29, 2005 09:07 AM (rE+jU)
Chavez/Fidel are clearly up to something. You don't buy a fleet of new Russian fighter jets, when you've got a load of perfectly fine US/French/UK gear, unless you've got something unpleasant cooking.
My SWAG(Scientific Wild Ass Guess) - they plan on making a grab for Curacao.
Why Curacao? O.I.L.
CURACAO"...Oil refining is the principal industry, and the island has one of the world's largest refineries, receiving oil from the enormous reserves at nearby Lake Maracaibo, Venezuela. There are also phosphate deposits. Other major industries include tourism (CuraÃ§ao is a free port) and ship repairing. CuraÃ§ao's ship-repair dry dock is one of the largest in the Americas..."IMO, Chavez wants control over the whole shebang. Why build your own capability, when you can steal someone else's?
He's not selling Fidel cut rate oil just because they're "pals". There's a quid-pro-quo expected. I think the QPQ is Fidel's help in making the grab.
Posted by: Tony at August 29, 2005 09:15 AM (dYcZw)
He attempted a coup, but failed. When he was elected he took away the legislative's power to legislate in favor of a group of 6 cronies. He has supplanted the right of an independant judiciary in favor of ultimate executive fiat. He is a dictator in the making, and you should be far more careful claiming otherwise.
My prediction, the Venezualians will have a really hard time getting rid of him.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 29, 2005 09:20 AM (jPCiN)
Since you're such a big fan of documentation, Bill, I figured I'd provide some on Chavez:
Chavez packs Supreme Court, threatening judicial independence
Rights Lawyer Faces Judicial Persecution
Court Orders Trial of Civil Society Leaders
Curbs on Free Expression Tightened
Doesn't sound like a guy who respects the democratic process to me.
Posted by: Slublog at August 29, 2005 09:26 AM (V7NgR)
Posted by: anon at August 29, 2005 09:36 AM (qbH5I)
Posted by: Al at August 29, 2005 09:39 AM (qbH5I)
Posted by: utron at August 29, 2005 09:47 AM (CgIkY)
You're using the wrong dictionary Slu. You need the one that uses the word like this:
Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea
Freedom → Slavery
Truth → Lies
Dictatorship → Democracy
Posted by: Tony at August 29, 2005 11:04 AM (dYcZw)
It's on back order at Amazon.
Posted by: Slublog at August 29, 2005 11:07 AM (Px80s)
Posted by: Bill at August 29, 2005 01:08 PM (dpJaB)
Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood at August 29, 2005 01:16 PM (/40mF)
Posted by: Bill at August 29, 2005 01:39 PM (dpJaB)
Personally, I don't think we should do anything about it. I'm sim-ply trying to show that Chavez is taking his country toward a dictatorship.
Posted by: Slublog at August 29, 2005 04:27 PM (KUYsH)
Posted by: Slublog at August 29, 2005 04:28 PM (KUYsH)
Posted by: jump me at August 30, 2005 06:06 AM (F26eZ)
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