February 28, 2014

As Expected, Russia Takes the Crimea;
Kerry Issues "Warning" or Something

— Ace

I don't really want to rip on Kerry too much for this (and do not mistake my reluctance to criticize him on this for some kind of general approval of his horrible leadership), because the US isn't going to war for the Crimea, and it would be silly to even suggest that we would.

One of the most famous poems in the English language is about a futile and pointless military action in the Crimea ending in gloriously bloody disaster, after all.

No one would believe it, and this would become yet another of Obama's many red lines which must not be crossed which are nevertheless crossed.

But, as Allah says, the Administration is still warning Russia not to cross "the intervention line."

What does that mean? Does the line refer to Russia's intervention, or a line that would trigger our intervention?

Either way, that line has been crossed. With Armored Personnel Carriers.


brb, crossin' an intervention line

Russia has taken over a couple of airports, a sea port, and of course the major Crimean port of Svestapol. They're also blocking telephone hubs and canceling air travel. And they're issuing Russian passports to Russian-speaking Crimeans, something they did when they invaded Georgia, too. I guess the idea is that they make them officially Russian, as some part of their "We're just intervening to defend our native Russian comrades" justification.

In short, it looks like they're taking over Crimea, as expected. The only question now is whether they will be emboldened enough to move on the rest of the Ukraine, or perhaps just part of it (the Russian-speaking half to the east).

Here's another question: Will they formally annex Crimea? Or just make it an unofficial territory?

Here's why that's important: They can claim Crimea is still officially part of Ukraine, so that the Crimean Russian population can still vote in Ukraine's elections, despite being, essentially, now part of Mother Russia.

Think they wouldn't? They'd call it a "compromise" to leave Crimean nominally in the Ukraine, when in fact it would be another move to control Ukraine.

Posted by: Ace at 10:40 AM | Comments (431)
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1 1?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 28, 2014 10:42 AM (ojnk6)

2 Please, John Kerry is focused like a laser on Global Warming.
He does not have time for this silly stuff.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 28, 2014 10:42 AM (aq/zi)

3 And the US response should be.....?

Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 10:43 AM (YEQ2h)

4 But first, you will....

Posted by: Vladamir Baby-arm Putin at February 28, 2014 10:43 AM (tv7DV)

5 -- the US isn't going to war for the Crimea -- Can we get Britain to go back in there? They had a good day the last time they came to visit.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 28, 2014 10:43 AM (d2g9U)

6 And once again, our stories hero and god-king Barackus of Obama sniffs the pungent, yet bittersweet aroma of Eau de Putin’s Derriere. It is indeed a sad day on Mount Olympus as the daemons rend their collective garments

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 10:43 AM (GGCsk)

7 Doesnt Ukraine have an army? Wonder why they didnt see this coming and take steps to secure their own airports before Russia did

Posted by: Chris at February 28, 2014 10:44 AM (WjMgb)

8 But think of the song possibilities!

Posted by: Iron Maiden at February 28, 2014 10:44 AM (Aif/5)

9 See the problem is here, the USA under obama has stopped playing the Super Power game. Problem is the Russians and Chicoms still are and nobody told obama. And just bought some chips to the table also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 10:44 AM (nzKvP)

10 Better Russia than the Muppets.  At least Russia doesn't try to stick it's arm up your ass to make you look like you're talking.

Posted by: Manhattan at February 28, 2014 10:45 AM (tv7DV)

11 This clip from Yes, Prime Minister is oddly enlightening: http://is.gd/tpZupN

Posted by: JohnJ at February 28, 2014 10:45 AM (TF/YA)

12 Wait a minute, I thought the Crimean War was only in the history books - Am I in a bad production of "Groundhog Day"?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at February 28, 2014 10:45 AM (PZ6/M)

13 Never forget that there already has been a major war sparked by Russia seizing the Crimea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1768–74) Oh, how short is our memory.

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 10:45 AM (mizYg)

14 I thought Crimea was Georgia....gotta get a map.

Posted by: BignJames at February 28, 2014 10:45 AM (j7iSn)

15 And the US response should be.....? Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 03:43 PM (YEQ2h) Over throw obama and increase the defense budget

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 10:45 AM (nzKvP)

16 Quick, hit the "RESET" button

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 28, 2014 10:46 AM (z+4T3)

17 I don't want the buffoon in chief to do anything.

Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 10:46 AM (YEQ2h)

18 My favorite part of this con is my getting to pretend I am the least bit bothered by Russia acting this way, FORE! //Bronk O'bama America's golf pro & the world's realtor.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 10:46 AM (TE35l)

19 From the Ukraine Live Blog at interpretermag.com:

<<Russian aircraft carrying nearly 2,000 suspected troops have landed at a military air base near [Simferopol], senior Ukrainian official Sergiy Kunitsyn is reported by the AFP to have told Crimea’s ATR television channel. Mr Kunitsyn says 13 Russian planes have landed with 150 people in each one.>>

It's on like Donkey Kong.

The only people who didn't see this coming where Obama, Rice and Kerry.

It's a reset alright.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 10:46 AM (GGCsk)

20 Bullets will fly

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 28, 2014 10:46 AM (sBUAE)

21 Divide the country. Give the Russians Crimea and East Ukraine as a satellite. Move along. Because Barky is C-in-C and that is a disaster waiting to happen.

Posted by: joncelli at February 28, 2014 10:46 AM (RD7QR)

22 I guess this is what obama meant by more flexibility after the election?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 10:46 AM (nzKvP)

23 In fact, it was in the 1774 treaty ending the Russo-Turkish War that Russia finally gained control over Crimea, which is the basis for this invasion as well. History is alive! With claws!

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 10:47 AM (mizYg)

24 Wasn't there another war with Turkey in the Henry and Yellowboy era?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 10:47 AM (6bMeY)

25 That stupid Palin thinking eventually Putin would invade Ukraine. Wow, she's stupid. This outcome is as horrifying as it was obvious to everyone other than the rocket surgeons in charge of our smart diplomacy.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 28, 2014 10:47 AM (VtjlW)

26 Quick, hit the "RESET" button

I just did.  Pray I don't hit it again.

Posted by: Vlad Putin[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 28, 2014 10:47 AM (P7Wsr)

27 Isn't there supposed to be a Sisters of Mercy vid attached to this?

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 28, 2014 10:47 AM (3ZtZW)

28 GM is alive...Bin laden is dead.

Posted by: BignJames at February 28, 2014 10:47 AM (j7iSn)

29 Hopefully OMON won't be sent in.

Posted by: Adam at February 28, 2014 10:47 AM (Aif/5)

30 I don't want the buffoon in chief to do anything.

Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 03:46 PM (YEQ2h)


Challenge accepted!


(Does golf and cuddle time with Reggie count as anything?)

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 28, 2014 10:47 AM (tv7DV)

31 I want to see Obama come on TV, like the other day, when he look like a dog watching TV while is gave another one of his hollow warnings.


He looked like Michelle had his balls in a death grip.  I was embarrassed for the country.


Still am.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (BZAd3)

32 Obama, Kerry and Putin. True American Patriots.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (J6JcG)

33 Wow, I didn;'t see that coming.

Posted by: B. Obama, Smartesty man in the room. at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (1Rgee)

34 It's the silly, "don't cross that line or we'll stomp our foot" that makes Kerry look like an idiot.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (A98Xu)

35 THE CARD CHEAT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWdBhWSnuU

Posted by: The Clash at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (2Ht/5)

36 The Crimea was originally taken by Russia in the 1700s by Catherine the Great. In the 1950s Kruschev Made it a part of the Ukrainian SSR proper. It is Russian territory. If the Russians want to keep it, there's not a damn thing the Ukrainians can do about it. If the Russians move beoynd that, then the Ukies need to start fucking shooting

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (xBVLv)

37 Well the idiot did you language with "grave warning".  I do hope someone in the State Department hit him with a cluebat.


That is a strong hint that we will initiate military action.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (T2V/1)

38 >>>Divide the country. Give the Russians Crimea and East Ukraine as a satellite. Move along. Because Barky is C-in-C and that is a disaster waiting to happen. If only. I'd count us (and the western Ukrainians) lucky if they would be content with that.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (/FnUH)

39 Obama and Kerry will be issuing a warning if Putin decided to invade Alaska. Obama's more flexible now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (XyM/Y)

40 And, I might add, Barack Obama made a birdie today

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (xBVLv)

41 This is like watching a Modern Warfare franchise. At least we can hope that Putin is a rational actor.

Posted by: imp at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (L9AnB)

42 It would take 2 countries fighting to have a war. Slavo-Ukrainia isn't interested this week.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (6bMeY)

43 Quick, somebody check a bilingual dictionary -- maybe "reset" is a homophone for "invade" in Russian.

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (mizYg)

44 It's the silly, "don't cross that line or we'll stomp our foot" that makes Kerry look like an idiot. Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 03:48 PM (A98Xu) He didn't need any help

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (nzKvP)

45 Hadn't the Russians used the same pretext to go into Georgia? we're just trying to stabilize this section because russians live in this part? anyway, by Ukraine, sorry for ou dunce for being such a shit that everyone is out grabbing country after country.

Posted by: willow at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (nqBYe)

46 15 NeverGiveUp, Nah skipper we're out of the power business we're in the Obamafo business. Invest in Coppertone futures... SPF 45,000 I think.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 10:48 AM (TE35l)

47 9 See the problem is here, the USA under obama has stopped playing the Super Power game. Problem is the Russians and Chicoms still are and nobody told obama. And just bought some chips to the table also.

*****

Wrong.  He is playing to lose

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (z+4T3)

48 That red line? Yea apparently it's made with Russian troops and APC's.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (GGCsk)

49 Republican President = Press pushes the foreign issue in every way to make the President and his party look bad.

Democrat President =  "Wha?  Let's talk about something else."

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (qiXMt)

50 *starts speaking haltingly in Middle-school French*

*looks around*

*goes back to playing with his mast*

Posted by: John Kerrey[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (P7Wsr)

51 Maybe we can't blame Obama and Kerry for not reacting with the military but we can sure as hell blame them for allowing it to come to this. When is the last time Russia prior to the Barky administration that the Russians got uppity like this? During the President Peanut administration. Weakness and blithering incompetence is provocative.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (WVene)

52 The Ukraine is weak.

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (2Ht/5)

53

We are led by such pussies.

 

Question:  Is this admin actually opposed to Russia??

Posted by: prescient11 at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (tVTLU)

54 Putin is the Yellow King. Just put on your antler crown and bend over...

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (6Nj7A)

55

Divide the country. Give the Russians Crimea and East Ukraine as a satellite.

-

That is up to the Ukranians, and I doubt they are thinking that way.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 28, 2014 10:49 AM (sBUAE)

56 bye

Posted by: willow at February 28, 2014 10:50 AM (nqBYe)

57 Obama needs to come on TV just to give the Russians another opportunity to laugh at him.


You know, distract them while he, well... does nothing.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 28, 2014 10:50 AM (BZAd3)

58 Just reading YoungCons complication of Romney warnings and predictions and it is pathetic the media allowed the the Obama Administration to mock him about it.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 10:50 AM (A98Xu)

59 you didn't use "unexpectedly" in the headline...

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 28, 2014 10:50 AM (q+fqH)

60 Anyone who didn't see this coming has a serious lack of historical understanding of the region and mother russia in particular. So its not fair to criticize the cult of the messiah who believe history began when the one won in 08.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at February 28, 2014 10:50 AM (hpgw1)

61 37 Well the idiot did you language with "grave warning". I do hope someone in the State Department hit him with a cluebat. That is a strong hint that we will initiate military action. Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2014 03:48 PM (T2V/1) Oh God. I wouldn't let that idiot play paintball, much less general.

Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 10:50 AM (YEQ2h)

62

>>>Divide the country. Give the Russians Crimea and East Ukraine as a satellite

 

 

Right! Like a non-aggression pact! They can have half of Poland, we'll take the other. See? Its worked in the past.

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (3ZtZW)

63 When Obama uses the phrase "red line" he's referring to that really potent Vermillion Cocaine he used to sell back in the early '80s. Good times, good times.

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (mizYg)

64 Another foreign policy win for nipplenoggin.  Worst president in history.  Absolute worse.  Makes Jimmy Peanut look like Thomas Jefferson.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (T2V/1)

65 I'm sure we'll have peace in our time if we simply give Germans Russians the German[/] Russian ethnic enclave of Sudetenland Crimea. Fun fact: Crimea is only a Russian enclave because the Soviets deported all of the Crimean Tatars (think: Trail of Tears) and imported Russians.

Posted by: DDG at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (jLXdE)

66
Obligatory:

http://youtu.be/UIPSvIz9NDs?t=31s


Posted by: dan-O at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (D0bIN)

67 Peace, peace in our time.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (6bMeY)

68 He didn't need any help Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 03:48 PM (nzKvP) Amen.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (A98Xu)

69 Only people afraid of Barry and Co. are Boehner and McConnell.

Posted by: wth at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (wAQA5)

70 now this is what we call flexibility!

Posted by: russians at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (nqBYe)

71 This Interventioning is easy.

Posted by: Putin at February 28, 2014 10:51 AM (2Ht/5)

72 We're in the very best of hands.

Posted by: Y-not at February 28, 2014 10:52 AM (zDsvJ)

73 I'm surprised at how Not Surprised I am; it's like zen, only hollow and sad


and God is still dead, btw.   Dead to modernity, and all that

Posted by: Freddy Neet-sche at February 28, 2014 10:52 AM (omBWL)

74 Can there be no other punitive reaction other than war?  I'm sure (the feckless) EU isn't exactly excited about this either. 

Maybe it's time to go back on our word to not place missle shields in Poland.

Posted by: Heralder at February 28, 2014 10:52 AM (/Mxso)

75 Top Girlie-Men.

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 10:52 AM (mizYg)

76 Barrel almost

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 28, 2014 10:52 AM (T2V/1)

77 Sorry. Its Russian territory. They depend upon it for the support of the Black Sea Fleet. They're not going to let it go and no one can do anything about that. Most especially not those vaginas in suits that we call Barack Obama and John Kerry

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 10:52 AM (xBVLv)

78 Ah, the Nation's chief bitch -- wonder which side she is on? Katrina vandenHeuvel Verified account ‏@KatrinaNation Neo-Nazis Pour Into Kiev/Yet much of US media prattles on about freedom & democracy coming 2 Kiev/ http://thebea.st/MAEhvy

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (ZPrif)

79
Maybe if Obama unilaterally offered to disarm.


Oh yeah.  He already did that

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (BZAd3)

80 put them on double-secret probation!

Posted by: GOETZ VON BERLICHINGEN at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (5n1Nw)

81 Looks like my formatting is on par with Ace's. Let's try this again: I'm sure we'll have peace in our time if we simply give the Germans Russians the German Russian ethnic enclave of Sudetenland Crimea. Fun fact: Crimea is only a Russian enclave because the Soviets deported all of the Crimean Tatars (think: Trail of Tears) and imported Russians.

Posted by: DDG at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (jLXdE)

82 so Taiwan and Japan next? no we mean it. well sometimes we mean it. what will ya give me? ok yeah i'll take this and this, and also this because.they.can.

Posted by: willow at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (nqBYe)

83 >>>Can there be no other punitive reaction other than war? I'm sure (the feckless) EU isn't exactly excited about this either. ... I doubt that the EU will stop buying Russian gas and oil. then they'd have to rely on their super-great solar and wind power production.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (/FnUH)

84 Quick Question!


What do Noogins and Peanut have in common?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (T2V/1)

85 Friends, we have nothing to f.... Nah, it's not funny anymore.

Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (YEQ2h)

86 How does one say "liebensraum" in Russian?

Posted by: Buster McDissenter at February 28, 2014 10:53 AM (QLbhS)

87 62 Bigby's hangnail, I read the divide the countey in 1/2 bit and hoped we'd come to our senses...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (TE35l)

88 Most especially not those vaginas in suits that we call Barack Obama and John Kerry

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 03:52 PM (xBVLv)


Insulting vaginas?  War on wimmenz!!1!11!!!!1!

Posted by: National Organization of coWs at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (tv7DV)

89 And the US response should be.....? Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 03:43 PM (YEQ2h) That Most Favored Nation trading status Russia has? Sorry, Vlad. Wave bye-bye.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (SY2Kh)

90 Another foreign policy win for nipplenoggin.

Don't talk about him like that ... well, it is funny.

Posted by: Malaria Obama[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (P7Wsr)

91 81 Is that where Snuffy Smith came from?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (6bMeY)

92 Amanpour said, yesterday, there were no indications Moscow was gonna do anything. She swore! And she's smart, too!! Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman Amanpour said yesterday no indication Moscow planning on Ukraine intervention. 12 hours later, they intervened http://bit.ly/1khx9Dp

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (ZPrif)

93 This is the sort of  inervention  line crossin    up with which I will not put.

Posted by: Serious you guys at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (fsLdt)

94 ...the second time as farce.

Posted by: Abigail at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (sFXF/)

95 DDG, I get the Sudentenland analogy but you really advocate going to war with Russia? As for this: >>>Fun fact: Crimea is only a Russian enclave because the Soviets deported all of the Crimean Tatars (think: Trail of Tears) and imported Russians. of course but this is how is now.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (/FnUH)

96 Why would there be a war with Russia? Putin has said over and over these guys aren't Russians. What business is it of Russia if NATO shoots not-Russian bandits on Ukrainian soil at the request of Ukraine?

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (5xmd7)

97 So the "overload" button took us back to 1977? And to think Hawking doesn't think a time machine has been invented. Hack. So for the next Winter Olympics, the USA hockey team should win gold, the White Sox will wear shorts, and the Flyers and Hurricanes will start wearing Cooperalls.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (HxSXm)

98 That ass balloon on the sidebar is taking over my life. As to the topic, there's an intervention line? What's that? Is that something to do with Michelle at an all you can eat buffet?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (oFCZn)

99 I hope Obama bows to someone else, once he does that all kinds of exciting geopolitical crap starts happening.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 10:54 AM (A98Xu)

100 Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman Enjoy: Flashback to Yesterday: Christiane Amanpour Insists No 'Notion' Russia Will Invade Ukraine (VIDEO) http://bit.ly/1khx9Dp

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 10:55 AM (ZPrif)

101 Good night, all

Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at February 28, 2014 10:55 AM (3ZtZW)

102 How does one say "liebensraum" in Russian?

Posted by: Buster McDissenter at February 28, 2014 03:53 PM (QLbhS)


"Obama"

Posted by: Russian Scholar at February 28, 2014 10:55 AM (tv7DV)

103 << because the US isn't going to war for the Crimea, and it would be silly to even suggest that we would. >>

I believe you have entirely missed the point.

It is in fact that Russia feels they can not only willfully deceive the US as to their intentions and actions. They also believe it will be inconsequential.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 10:55 AM (GGCsk)

104 Ukriane is Russia's sphere of influence and nobody is suggesting taking Military action over there. But ya know all that Venezuelan & Mexican oil is in our Sphere of influence and it would be a shame if anything happened to raul and fidel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 10:55 AM (nzKvP)

105 Neo-Nazis Pour Into Kiev/Yet much of US media prattles on about freedom & democracy coming 2 Kiev/ http://thebea.st/MAEhvy

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 03:53 PM (ZPrif)


Nature abhors a vacuum. 


So evidently, do Russians and Neo-Nazis.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 28, 2014 10:55 AM (BZAd3)

106

And the US response should be.....?

 

Farting in the general direction of Moscow.

Posted by: eleven at February 28, 2014 10:55 AM (fsLdt)

107 Blut und Boden.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 10:55 AM (6bMeY)

108 in b4 Yakov Smirnov!

Posted by: soothie at February 28, 2014 10:56 AM (mbm6i)

109 Crimea river

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 28, 2014 10:56 AM (V4CBV)

110

Sorry. Its Russian territory. They depend upon it for the support of the Black Sea Fleet. They're not going to let it go and no one can do anything about that.

-

  I am under the impression Sevastopol is leased, much like the US leases Guantanamo.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 28, 2014 10:56 AM (sBUAE)

111 John Schindler ‏@20committee Everybody still think Ed defecting to Russia with all that TS info about US intelligence didn't matter? #SnowdenOp

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 10:56 AM (ZPrif)

112 Jimmy Carter is more and more starting to look like a geopolitical superman by comparison to the present administration.

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 10:56 AM (mizYg)

113 Sorry. Its Russian territory. They depend upon it for the support of the Black Sea Fleet. It's not Russian territory. They lease the port from Ukraine. I'm not aware of any moves by Ukraine to renege on the deal.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 28, 2014 10:56 AM (SY2Kh)

114 They'd call it a "compromise" to leave Crimean nominally in the Ukraine, when in fact it would be another move to control Ukraine.


Great compromise. Works for me!

Posted by: King Barky at February 28, 2014 10:56 AM (ZWaLo)

115 Vlad: Knock knock

Obama: Who's there?

Vlad: Column of Russian armored personnel carriers.

Obama:  Oh shit!

Huh, it sounded funnier in my head.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 28, 2014 10:56 AM (XUKZU)

116 so. middleast overthrows of how many countries? russia .. China.... alrighty then.

Posted by: willow at February 28, 2014 10:57 AM (nqBYe)

117 Is it into the Valley of Death rode Obamacare, or into the Valley of Obamacare rode Death?

Posted by: @ParisParamus at February 28, 2014 10:57 AM (ztMkL)

118 Yep Putin's gonna have a fun 3 years, 7 if her thighness wins in 2016

Posted by: Iblis at February 28, 2014 10:57 AM (U0ndG)

119 Fun fact: Crimea is only a Russian enclave because the Soviets deported all of the Crimean Tatars (think: Trail of Tears) and imported Russians.

Fun fact:  The worst Manager I ever had was Tatar.  Dude was an incredible dick.  I quit a contract to hire position at Amazon because of him.  Their hiring bonus alone was $14K.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 28, 2014 10:57 AM (P7Wsr)

120 Cable news coverage-- it's really awful. Kate Upton and Phillip Seymour Hoffman.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 10:57 AM (RJMhd)

121 isn't venezuela and Indonesia also catching fire? yeah, interesting times.

Posted by: willow at February 28, 2014 10:57 AM (nqBYe)

122

The Crimea was originally taken by Russia in the 1700s by Catherine the Great.

 

 

Was she the one with the  horses?

 

 

Posted by: eleven at February 28, 2014 10:57 AM (fsLdt)

123 When them tanks ro-olll over Crimea again!

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 10:57 AM (mizYg)

124 95 Ace, While I agree, I do think it funny we are to live in modern reality internationally and get lynched for 1860 domestically forever. Doublethink is lingua frankie for the left I guess

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 10:58 AM (TE35l)

125 I am under the impression Sevastopol is leased, much like the US leases Guantanamo. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 28, 2014 03:56 PM (sBUAE) yes it is leased. I have the lease right here, ya want to see it

Posted by: Lubyanka Prison at February 28, 2014 10:58 AM (nzKvP)

126 Is it Tatar or Tartar?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 10:58 AM (6bMeY)

127 Anybody who gets comment #123 wins the Original Punk Medal for the thread.

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 10:58 AM (mizYg)

128 so who overtook a couple of the airports?

Posted by: willow at February 28, 2014 10:58 AM (nqBYe)

129 "Posted by: Russian Scholar" I sets 'em up, you knocks 'em down. Well done.

Posted by: Buster McDissenter at February 28, 2014 10:58 AM (QLbhS)

130 VIENNA/UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The U.N. nuclear watchdog planned a major report on Iran that might have revealed more of its suspected atomic bomb research, but held off as Tehran's relations with the outside world thawed, sources familiar with the matter said.

Such a report - to have been prepared last year - would almost certainly have angered Iran and complicated efforts to settle a decade-old dispute over its atomic aspirations, moves which accelerated after pragmatic President Hassan Rouhani took office in August.

According to the sources, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has apparently dropped the idea of a new report, at least for the time being.

Posted by: The Truth Is Out There at February 28, 2014 10:58 AM (e8kgV)

131 >>> Liebensraum Номер петь

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 10:58 AM (xBVLv)

132 Odds are this has any effect on the Obama's Oscar Party?

Posted by: garrett at February 28, 2014 10:59 AM (2Ht/5)

133 Even if we didn't have an incompetent boob and his bevy of boneheads in the White House, this really ought to be an EU concern. Especially since they have a specific interest in this. And they'll do nothing, naturally.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 28, 2014 10:59 AM (xSegX)

134 113 Sorry. Its Russian territory. They depend upon it for the support of the Black Sea Fleet. It's not Russian territory. They lease the port from Ukraine. I'm not aware of any moves by Ukraine to renege on the deal. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 28, 2014 03:56 PM (SY2Kh) ******** Khrushchev "gave" it back to Ukraine--without envisioning the break up of the Soviet Union.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 10:59 AM (RJMhd)

135 /Godzilla roar!

Posted by: soothie at February 28, 2014 10:59 AM (mbm6i)

136 132 Slim to none. Priorities......

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (ojnk6)

137 So supposedly it was just a gesture.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (RJMhd)

138 Hey with all the hub hub, anyone heard from the Russian Men's Hockey team Coach lately?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (nzKvP)

139 >>>Posted by: Hollowpoint As usual, you remain the most ignorant fucker ever post here. You are the weakest link

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (xBVLv)

140 126 Is it Tatar or Tartar? Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2 Depends. Sauce, or horseperson?

Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (YEQ2h)

141 >>Sorry. Its Russian territory. They depend upon it for the support of the Black Sea Fleet. They're not going to let it go and no one can do anything about that.

I am under the impression Sevastopol is leased, much like the US leases Guantanamo.<<

The point is that nobody currently in the Ukrainian government has suggested they will kick out the Russians. In fact they've gone to great lengths to indicate they would not.

They have also been careful to not provoke the Russians in any particular way.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (GGCsk)

142 "Posted by: Herr Morgengolz " Wow, goin' all Cyrillic and stuff. Thanks, HM.

Posted by: Buster McDissenter at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (QLbhS)

143

Didn't someone write a book about what the world would be like without
America?



Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (BZAd3)

144 Here you go: most likely russian action, take crimean; second most likely, take eastern ukraine; third take all of ukraine; fourth do nothing only taking the eastern half of ukraine is nearly pointless for vlad.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (rDidD)

145

So how does this affect gay people?



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at February 28, 2014 11:00 AM (1ZAxL)

146 I am pretty sure we have some sort of protection agreement with Ukraine.  They got it because they agreed to give up their Nuclear weapons. 

Posted by: Registered Voter at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (BGFPo)

147 so, the beginning of history, part deux

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (rDidD)

148 126 Is it Tatar or Tartar? Posted by: Boss Moss Either spelling is acceptable. Interestingly, the #2 chess player in the US (and a really nice guy to boot) is an ethnic Crimean Tatar whose parents fled here in the ate '80s to escape the USSR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gata_Kamsky

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (mizYg)

149
Ha.  Could you imagine Putin walking in to an intervention.

"Listen Vlad, we think you drink too much vodka and use your power too much."

*Vlad impales everybody*

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (gorVZ)

150 They can claim Crimea is still officially part of Ukraine, so that the Crimean Russian population can still vote in Ukraine's election
***
Kind of like the American southwest after amnesty?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (P3U0f)

151 Are any of you schooled on this treaty? http://tinyurl.com/n64fsxx

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (A98Xu)

152 John Schindler ‏@20committee "Russia [has] my gratitude & respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful" - E. Snowden

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (ZPrif)

153 Have you ever played Risk? You have to have The Ukraine.

Posted by: blaster at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (4+AaH)

154

Sorry. Its Russian territory. They depend upon it for the support of the Black Sea Fleet.

 

Not quite Russian territory, but yeah, the Black Sea Fleet is based there and they will never ever give that up.  The host country is falling apart all around them and they are making darn sure that chaos doesn't reach their base.

 

That said, the Ukrainian foreign ministry has called flying in the soldiers a "violation of Ukrainian airspace" (which seems odd, as the Russkies must fly around there a lot)  and the transitional president of Ukraine has called on Putin to "stop the aggression" against Ukraine. 

 

So, fluid situation.  I'm not certain that Russia is annexing anything yet.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (A0sHn)

155 139 Herr Morgenholz, Which is pretty sad given I'm numb and can't feel my toes...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:01 AM (TE35l)

156 " Is it into the Valley of Death rode Obamacare, or into the Valley of Obamacare rode Death?" Sorry, the Valley of Obamacare has been taken down for maintenance. Please check back in two days.

Posted by: Buster McDissenter at February 28, 2014 11:02 AM (QLbhS)

157 126 Is it Tatar or Tartar? Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 03:58 PM (6bMeY) You don't want to try the Tatar sauce.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 28, 2014 11:02 AM (oFCZn)

158 I am pretty sure we have some sort of protection agreement with Ukraine. They got it because they agreed to give up their Nuclear weapons.
***
What kind of idiot gives up their nuclear weapons for an American/European promise of protection?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 11:02 AM (P3U0f)

159 >>>And the US response should be.....?

Obama should resign and slink quietly out of the public eye.

But then, I think pretty much the same thing about all current events.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 28, 2014 11:02 AM (IN7k+)

160 You mean Ron - Tatar Salad - White?

Posted by: blaster at February 28, 2014 11:02 AM (4+AaH)

161 As usual, you remain the most ignorant fucker ever post here. You are the weakest link That must've been difficult to type with your head bobbing up and down on Putin's lap.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (SY2Kh)

162 I am pretty sure we have some sort of protection agreement with Ukraine. They got it because they agreed to give up their Nuclear weapons.

*pfft*  I don't even keep my own promises.  Why would I keep somebody else's?

Posted by: Obama[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (P7Wsr)

163 Maybe Obama can make a deal with Putin where he convinces Czechoslovakia to surrender Sudetenland to Russia in exchange for peace.

Posted by: NotCoach at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (rsudF)

164 Hey, it wasn't MY red line.  It was someone else's red line.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (8ZskC)

165 'liebensraum' would sorta translate as 'love room'; Love Shack, maybe; room for love


funny language, German:  lotsa laughs, all day long

Posted by: Freddy Neet-sche at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (omBWL)

166 " Is it Tatar or Tartar? Posted by: Boss Moss " It's Tater, man. C'mon.

Posted by: John Idaho, King of the Spuds at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (QLbhS)

167 Budapest Memorandum -- for getting rid of nukes, US, UK, Russia promised to respect territorial integrity. Lesson -- don't give up your nukes. Ever.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (ZPrif)

168 I am sure of only one thing: Russia and Putin don't give a rat's ass what obama thinks. What ever Putin decides to do, he will do what is in Putin's and Russia's best interest or what he perceives that to be. Actually kinda refreshing considering who is in our White House

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (nzKvP)

169 The Siege of Sevastopol lasted from September 1854 until September 1855, during the Crimean War. The allies (French, Ottoman, and British) landed at Eupatoria on 14 September 1854, intending to make a triumphal march to Sevastopol, the capital of the Crimea, with 50,000 men. The 56-kilometre (35 mi) traverse took a year of fighting against the Russians. Major battles along the way were Alma (September 1854), Balaklava (October 1854), Inkerman (November 1854), Tchernaya (August 1855), Redan (September 1855), and, finally, Sevastopol (September 1855). During the siege, the allied navy undertook six bombardments of the capital, on 17 October 1854; and on 9 April, 6 June, 17 June, 17 August, and 5 September 1855. Sevastopol is one of the classic sieges of all time.[9] The city of Sevastopol was the home of the Tsar's Black Sea Fleet, which threatened the Mediterranean. The Russian field army withdrew before the allies could encircle it. The siege was the culminating struggle for the strategic Russian port in 1854–1855 and was the final episode in the Crimean War. ************ It's a matter of honor to Putin. History.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (RJMhd)

170 152 Flatbush Joe, Hey Joe it's absolutely amazing Snowden's laptop empowered Russia to roll Barry. If he worked for *us* how'd we lose the GWoT?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (TE35l)

171 >>Fun fact: Crimea is only a Russian enclave because the Soviets deported all of the Crimean Tatars (think: Trail of Tears) and imported Russians. <<

Fun fact. The US state of Georgia is the Cherokee homeland taken forcefully the US government. Should we now cede it back to them with a big apology?

That's rhetorical of course.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (GGCsk)

172 for Ukraine getting rid of her nukes, that is

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 11:03 AM (ZPrif)

173

Hey, lookit, the Present has to be given some room to operate, ok.

We have to let him do some stuff over here.





Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (1ZAxL)

174 Ukraine, Georgia , Poland , Taiwan, Japan. eat.your.peas.

Posted by: willow at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (nqBYe)

175 Go back in there, chill those Ukrainians out and wait for the Preznit Bagger Vance which should be coming directly

Posted by: thangz is pretty Fn far from Okay right now at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (zULK3)

176 I say we should draft Colonel Lord Grantham to lead an expedition to keep the Crimean British.  He can bring Bates to handle his dirty work.  

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (Ec6wH)

177 Quick, somebody check a bilingual dictionary -- maybe "reset" is a homophone for "invade" in Russian.

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 03:48 PM (mizYg)


There are no homophones in Russia.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (Gvnu5)

178 seriously, could obama and kerry at least have made the pretention of a line, maybe get some krylon and air drop som SEALs in to tag a red line somewhere? maybe some agent orange style red line spraying? anything but nothing. only lines obama is interested are the white ones he is doing off reggies ass.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (rDidD)

179 Let love be your last battlefield.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (V4CBV)

180 Hey don't call MFA Ben Rhodes a bonehead. He has written almost an entire novel and has read every script of West Wing. Twice!

So of course he's a national security adviser.

Posted by: pj at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (ZWaLo)

181 no idea what you are talking about Sven, sounds like you are trying to start a fight.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (ZPrif)

182 Ukraine embarrassed Putin when he was suppose to have the world stage--The Winter Olympics.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:04 AM (RJMhd)

183 Hey, I made it clear to Vladmir, in no uncertain terms, my feelings on this most important policy, and I will not back down: There should be no discrimination against homosexuality!
*
*
*
Wait, what? I overslept my daily briefing - something about 'your crane'?
Get back to me after I finish power watching the last season of Homeland.

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (aq/zi)

184 The Ukraine needs some A-10s.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (6bMeY)

185 Crimea is majority Russian. Russia has the support of the populace. It is fucking over. Let that go, let them keep their port on the Black Sea, and don't blow this up into Ferdinand number 2

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (dkDQF)

186 158 Someone who saw that at the time, we were a Superpower nobody would think of screwing with.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (ojnk6)

187 150 18-1, Precisely which is why I back La Raza...

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (TE35l)

188 even though I sympathize with the protesters and I don't like having to say this... the only thing we can realistically do is offer moral support. this is the Russians front yard, we don't have the territorial right to intervene by force.

Posted by: Shoey at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (vA94g)

189 It's a matter of honor to Putin. History. Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 04:03 PM (RJMhd) obama is mostly ignorant of History

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (nzKvP)

190 Looks like we'll have to hit the "Overcharge" button with the Russian Foreign Minister again.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (32Ze2)

191 Obama's corrupt EPA finally kills the AK Goldmine.  That two now. Salmon with no proof.


http://tinyurl.com/omnh8ug

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (T2V/1)

192

I have to say I'm actually leaning a bit towards the ruskies on this one.

 

As I was fully in their camp re Kosovo.

 

What we did to the Serbians was an unspeakable fucking crime.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (tVTLU)

193 96 Why would there be a war with Russia? Putin has said over and over these guys aren't Russians. What business is it of Russia if NATO shoots not-Russian bandits on Ukrainian soil at the request of Ukraine? Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 28, 2014 03:54 PM (5xmd7) President of Ukraine is in Russia. If he says there is a coup attempt, UN will side with him, probably. Also, Ukraine is not part or NATO, so technically, NATO cannot get involved. NATO got involved in Afghan because a NATO member was attacked, but not in Iraq because a NATO member was not attacked. NATO attacked Serbia under the "who the fuck knows" article of the NATO agreement.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 28, 2014 11:05 AM (HxSXm)

194 Putin, you magnificent bastard. I read your book jerked it to your naked horseback photos!

Posted by: General Barack Hussein Obama at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (2Ht/5)

195 Poland is next.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (6bMeY)

196 167 Budapest Memorandum -- for getting rid of nukes, US, UK, Russia promised to respect territorial integrity. Lesson -- don't give up your nukes. Ever. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 04:03 PM (ZPrif) That was over 20 years ago! The Internet didn't even exist!! *rolls eyes* Oh hey look fabulous dancing and the Oscars! *pounds away on smartphone*

Posted by: LIV at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (oFCZn)

197 At this rate, Mexico could invade and reclaim Catalina Island and no one would stop them.

Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (mizYg)

198 184 The Ukraine needs some A-10s. Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 04:05 PM (6bMeY) Or Texas.

Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (YEQ2h)

199 Facts: Ukraine has something like 73,000 soldiers...Russia has many times more than that. Crimea was Russian until in 1954 is was given to the Ukraine for some reason. If it were to create a peaceful situation, maybe it should be given back.

Posted by: sexypig at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (dZQh7)

200 Interestingly, the #2 chess player in the US (and a really nice guy to boot) is an ethnic Crimean Tatar whose parents fled here in the ate '80s to escape the USSR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gata_Kamsky

Posted by: zombie


I see your chess nerd Tartar and raise you one CHARLES BRONSON.
#gamesetmatch

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (uctT+)

201

Think they wouldn't? They'd call it a "compromise" to leave the Sudetenland nominally in Czechoslovakia, when in fact it would be another move to control Czechoslovakia.

Posted by: Ace, circa October 1938 at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (lQCe+)

202
Cold war part deux.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (BZAd3)

203

Let love be your last battlefield.

 

 

This just  changed   my life.

Posted by: eleven at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (fsLdt)

204 Kerry Issues "Warning" лол!

Posted by: Влади́мир Пу́ти at February 28, 2014 11:06 AM (mETGQ)

205 Budapest Memorandum from wiki Of course, part of modern wars means that the Budapest memorandum wiki page has been heavily edited since Feb 27th. -- Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances was an international treaty signed on February, 5, 1994, in Budapest between Ukraine, USA, Russia, and Great Britain concerning nuclear disarmament of Ukraine and security assurances of her independence. According to the treaty Ukraine has abanded her nuclear arsenal to Russia, while Russia, USA, and Great Britian have promised (1) to respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within her borders; (2) to protect Ukraine from outer aggression and not to conduct aggression toward Ukraine; (3) not to put economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence her politics; (4) not to use nuclear arms against Ukraine.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (ZPrif)

206 If the mascot for the local school sports collective in Sevastopol is the wolverine, Russia will rue this day.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (+lsX1)

207 At this rate, Mexico could invade and reclaim Catalina Island and no one would stop them. Posted by: zombie less of a military thing and more of a wardrobe change.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (rDidD)

208 only lines obama is interested are the white ones he is doing off reggies ass.

I wonder who was the first person to do a line of cocaine off somebody's butt.  And why is that pretty much the ultimate expression of decadence? 

Was it in some movie that everyone has seen but me?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (P7Wsr)

209 Watch the signs.  If Putin takes his shirt off, expect the complete annexation of Ukraine.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (8ZskC)

210 189 It's a matter of honor to Putin. History. Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 04:03 PM (RJMhd) obama is mostly ignorant of History Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 04:05 PM (nzKvP) And honor.

Posted by: tubal at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (YEQ2h)

211 There's a bear over there.

Posted by: deepred at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (RHYM4)

212 189 It's a matter of honor to Putin. History. Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 04:03 PM (RJMhd) obama is mostly ignorant of History Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 04:05 PM (nzKvP) *********** Ya--the difference between Putin and Obama in that regard. I really can't believe Ukraine chose the timing that they did. The Winter Olympics was all about Putin restoring national pride....

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (RJMhd)

213 "'liebensraum' would sorta translate as 'love room'; Love Shack, maybe; room for love" say WHAAAT!!?!!

Posted by: Fred Schneider, somewhere under a tin roof at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (QLbhS)

214 Some VIPs have their dachas in the Crimea. Some say those Crimean boys will put out for a Russian oligarch, when they're done with peewee soccer, particularly if he has foreign cigarets and an Audi.
So sorry, Crimeans!
The rest of the Ukraine is a real breadbasket. Some say that if you're growing wheat, and you're not in the Ukraine, you better step aside, buddy. Freedom there would be just another casualty of the appropriation by the oligarchs.

Posted by: Bard of Baltimore's Bloody Blade at February 28, 2014 11:07 AM (1/4XQ)

215 It is the hapless, regular trampling of independent states by Russia which is the issue here. If you don't believe that eventually leads to a larger conflict, pick up a history book.

This is what liberals don't understand. That a strong, capable military and our involvement in world affairs is the ultimate deterrent. Money spent on defense is you best guarantee that you may not have to use those forces in a larger military conflict- or if you do the response will be an overwhelming deterrent for others.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 11:08 AM (GGCsk)

216 Military force isn't the only way to influence events. If the Administration and State Department hadn't become entirely lacking in credibility, there'd be many other levers. Trade restrictions, withheld UN votes, some minor things, some real thorns in Russia's side. But we can't do that because there is no framework in place, no coherent policy. Everything is reactionary and ultimately tissue thin.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 28, 2014 11:08 AM (ZshNr)

217 >>>That must've been difficult to type with your head bobbing up and down on Putin's lap. The secret is to breathe through your nose. But of course you know that, as I'm preaching to the queer

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:08 AM (dkDQF)

218 deja vu all over again? Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:08 AM (rDidD)

219 181 Flatbush Joe, Nah Joe I love the "Snowden is t3h debbil never mind the Muslim Bro in the WH" byline.... Snowden has nothing to do with Putin showing Obama and the west are feckless assholes. Crimea is Russia's and at best Ukraine may not be. Keep fucking the Snowden chicken it's funny.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:08 AM (TE35l)

220 You know...


This would be a great time to send in Harold Ramis and crew into the Ukraine.


"THEY'RE PUSSIES!!!"


Posted by: EC at February 28, 2014 11:08 AM (GQ8sn)

221 Oops. Damn voice recognition...

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:08 AM (dkDQF)

222 The problems will be: Some Tatars and others in Crimea who don't want to be Russian. Areas in the east, not in Crimea. Odessa, major port in the Ukraine and located in the far west. Finally, where to do you draw the lines? I will bet there are little areas along the ethnic borders where it could go either way (See Mosul in Iraq, or Bosnia.) That is where the dispute can get crazy.

Posted by: sexypig at February 28, 2014 11:09 AM (dZQh7)

223 Putin's going to tweet himself taking a bite out of a Ukraine shaped tea cake. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 28, 2014 11:09 AM (Ec6wH)

224 The Bear in the Woods: http://www.livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1984/bear Great Great Great Political Ad, and as true today as then.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:09 AM (nzKvP)

225

I see your chess nerd Tartar and raise you one CHARLES BRONSON.
#gamesetmatch

 

Really?  I always just assumed he was Polish.  For no reason  at  all.

Posted by: eleven at February 28, 2014 11:09 AM (fsLdt)

226 Wheeeeeeee!

Posted by: Vlad's Excellent Adventure at February 28, 2014 11:09 AM (MMC8r)

227 Th cold war is so over, you stupidheads!

Posted by: B. Obama, Smartesty man in the room. at February 28, 2014 11:09 AM (1Rgee)

228 Isn't Talk Like Fred Schneider Day coming up?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 28, 2014 11:10 AM (V4CBV)

229 Man our MSM SUCKS!! Are you guys watching it? I had to turn it off. Maybe Tapper will be better...

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:10 AM (RJMhd)

230 First read Charge of the Light Brigade in the third grade. Love it

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 28, 2014 11:10 AM (nTgAI)

231 Fact: Alaska was Russian until they sold it.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 28, 2014 11:10 AM (5xmd7)

232 216 LincolnTF, Linc there is no way to punish a Russia the Goreon International types have made EUtopia's fuel man. Hug an enviro weenie... Their bullshit has a bodycount.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:10 AM (TE35l)

233 Can the reunification of the Bering Straight be far behind?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 11:11 AM (6bMeY)

234 Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 04:08 PM

Now that there's funny.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 28, 2014 11:11 AM (P7Wsr)

235

My fellow Americans: Russia's invasion of sovereign Ukrainian territory is certainly a violation of international law and a challenge to American ideals.

 

But let me be clear: gay marriage.

 

Thank you, and God bless America.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 28, 2014 11:11 AM (5iuEW)

236 Nice spy ring ya got there,  Obama.  Really nailed that one.

Posted by: Dang at February 28, 2014 11:11 AM (MNq6o)

237 Good for Putin. Crimea is essential to Russia and eastern Ukraine is Russian. This is a coup on Kiev funded by us and EU with emu Bankstas eager to seize whatever Ukraine has and swoop in for its resources. The people who seized power are neoNazis. God Bless the people torn between neoNazis funded by EU fascists (with us help) and the Russian bear, who is protecting his own flank and access. So where do u think Kerry and McCain will try to start a hot war next?

Posted by: ginaswo at February 28, 2014 11:11 AM (I3Aay)

238 Never forget.

Posted by: Holodomor at February 28, 2014 11:11 AM (hFL/3)

239 John Schindler ‏@20committee Yes, folks - Ed Snowden really is that stupid and/or a tool of Putin's Kremlin. Expand

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 11:12 AM (ZPrif)

240 I wonder who was the first person to do a line of cocaine off somebody's butt. And why is that pretty much the ultimate expression of decadence? Was it in some movie that everyone has seen but me? Posted by: bonhomme at February 28 pretty sure it started with someone going through a night of good scotch and loads of blow and when he had maxed out of everything he yanked some hot lass across his lap in the back of a limo shoved her skirt up and started doing lines off her ass. at least that is more or less how I remember it happening.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:12 AM (rDidD)

241 Alaska is Russian territory. Putin should invade there next. He's so dreamy. I hope he liked the perfume scented letters I sent him.

Posted by: Merr Horgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:12 AM (SY2Kh)

242 Bering Straight? Homophobic.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 28, 2014 11:12 AM (7ObY1)

243 Snowden has nothing to do with Putin showing Obama and the west are feckless assholes.
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I don't need your silly state secrets to know Obama is a wuss. And to be honest I could have done without reading what he texts to his manservant.

Now to smack some Ukrainians around from bear back. Oh and Barry? I mean that literally you sicko.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (P3U0f)

244 Hothomor. This time with Imperial Walkers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (6bMeY)

245 I think the attitude is simply stunning. Here we have an independent state and the strategy discussed here is largely how to feed the beast so it eats you last.

Crimea is an indisputable part of the Ukraine. The events which led to this latest change of government were indeed part of their struggle for freedom.

The answer of course is not war for us. But we undeniably have an interest in seeing the Ukraine succeed in their democratic aspirations.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (GGCsk)

246 I don't mind that the U.S. is not going to intervene in Crimea but since we are not what the hell purpose did Kerry going out and spewing some nonsense about: don't rock the boat to Russia/Putin serve?  In my mind it just makes us look bad -- oh wait --that answers my question since Kerry and Ear Leader want to make us bad at every turn. 

Posted by: palerider at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (dkExz)

247 Mark my words, they will test him.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (2Ht/5)

248
Nice spy ring ya got there, Obama. Really nailed that one.

They're concentrating on Americans at the moment.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (gorVZ)

249 236 Nice spy ring ya got there, Obama. Really nailed that one. Posted by: Dang at February 28, 2014 04:11 PM (MNq6o) ********** Oh holy shit that reminds me--Eli Lake had some quotes from Obama's INTEL analysis and they were sure Russia was only doing an exercise. I think that is where I read it--let me go find it.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (RJMhd)

250 199 SexyPig, Ukraine *could* blow up GazProm's pipelines.... That's about it.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (TE35l)

251 Is that like Johnnie Walkers?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (V4CBV)

252 carter lost iran, obama is losing europe. how is that even possible? obama is presiding over the reemergence of a soviet empire.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:13 AM (rDidD)

253 Alaska is Russian territory. Putin should invade there next.

He's so dreamy. I hope he liked the perfume scented letters I sent him.

Posted by: Merr Horgengolz


Any Americans that would oppose the return of Alaska to Russia would obviously be neo-Nazi.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 28, 2014 11:14 AM (uctT+)

254 Based off the voting map from the 2012 Ukraine parliamentary elections the country will most likely be split in half.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 28, 2014 11:14 AM (WdbF7)

255 The problem with Crimea is it's full of Crimeans. Let's try prima nocte.
 
You have nothing to fear with Bara...crap, I filled my Depends again.

Posted by: John McCain can suck monkey balls at February 28, 2014 11:14 AM (cHZB7)

256 At least we can hope that Putin is a rational actor.

Posted by: imp at February 28, 2014 03:48 PM (L9AnB)

 

Define rational. Is murdering nosy and bothersome (and brave) Russian reporters, for example, a rational act? If so, then Putin's very rational. By the same rationale, so was Stalin. So was Mao.

 

I don't think we can hope anything where Putin is concerned. He's an evil, calculating, murderous thug--you know, the kind of dictator that free countries like ours historically end up fighting because men like Putin typically have vast ambitions. He won't stop until he is stopped.

 

Can't wait until our weak and feckless President issues another 'intervention line', whatever the hell that is.

Posted by: troyriser at February 28, 2014 11:14 AM (V9ol4)

257 >> Bering Straight? Forward, never straight!

Posted by: Gay Cartographer at February 28, 2014 11:14 AM (2Ht/5)

258 White House press secretary Jay Carney on Friday accused Republicans of protecting the wealthy at the expense of the middle class, part of a new effort by the Obama administration to portray the GOP as aligned primarily with the wealthiest Americans. ???? But it's obama cutting the housing allowance and Commissary benefit for all those in the Military on Food Stamps?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:14 AM (nzKvP)

259 If you watch the Bear in the Woods commercial, at the very end of the video you'll see the bear backing off slightly.  One of the finest subliminal scenes in ad history.

Until Obama did whatever the fuck he did in in 2008 and 2012 to convince a majority of voters to elect him. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 28, 2014 11:14 AM (Ec6wH)

260 yankeefifth,

So, the guy who did all that let you watch, huh?

 

Posted by: West at February 28, 2014 11:15 AM (1Rgee)

261 239 Flatbush Joe, Joe we get it your icon thete hates Snowden...not you know the massive domestic spying Clapper perjured himself over. Nicely done

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:15 AM (TE35l)

262 @171: The expulsion of the Crimean Tatars occurred within living memory. It happened in 1944 as a collective punishment for supposed collaboration with the Nazis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatars Something like 40% died from starvation or in the first few years of exile.

Posted by: DDG at February 28, 2014 11:15 AM (jLXdE)

263 Any Americans that would oppose the return of Alaska to Russia would obviously be neo-Nazi.
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I promise the people of Alaska to be a competent despot, and really at this point isn't that an upgrade?

Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 28, 2014 11:15 AM (P3U0f)

264 Is that like Johnnie Walkers? Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 28, 2014 04:13 PM (V4CBV) Blue me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:15 AM (nzKvP)

265 What about Mitt's gaaaaaaaaaaaaafes?

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 28, 2014 11:16 AM (E8IHS)

266
Something like 40% died from starvation or in the first few years of exile.
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Eggs, omelet, all that.

Posted by: Walter Duranty and the rest of the left at February 28, 2014 11:16 AM (P3U0f)

267 sadly, anything obama could do now is worse than nothing. he does not have a trick in his bag, besides reggie, or a card in his hand. he is absolutely screwed. so are we, but , he is more screwed,pucker up and kiss off your legacy buttercup. my advice for obama about the balance of his presidency, lay back and let it happen, think of something nice cause its gonna happen so try to enjoy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:17 AM (rDidD)

268 'Warning'?  Oh noes, Russia is going to get disinvited to all the good Beltway cocktail parties.

Posted by: John Boehner at February 28, 2014 11:17 AM (Q6pxP)

269 I promise the people of Alaska to be a competent despot, and really at this point isn't that an upgrade?

Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 28, 2014 04:15 PM (P3U0f)


Plus, Russian passports for Eskimos!

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at February 28, 2014 11:17 AM (8ZskC)

270 Me, I take a much simpler approach. If obama is for it, I'm against it.

Posted by: soothie at February 28, 2014 11:17 AM (mbm6i)

271 So where do u think Kerry and McCain will try to start a hot war next?

Posted by: ginaswo at February 28, 2014 04:11 PM (I3Aay)

 

Just spitballing here, but I'm guessing you're a big fan of Dr. Ron Paul. While you're at it, please tell us how poor Iran is a victim of  evil Zionist manipulations. That never gets old.

Posted by: troyriser at February 28, 2014 11:17 AM (V9ol4)

272 obama is mostly ignorant of History Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 04:05 PM (nzKvP) ____________________ History began when Barakus Obamus ascended to the Throne

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 28, 2014 11:17 AM (32Ze2)

273 So who gets Potemkin under the division.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 11:17 AM (6bMeY)

274 Smart Power Activate

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 28, 2014 11:17 AM (Q6pxP)

275 Russians out of Ukraine! Whites out of Brooklyn!

Posted by: Spike Lee at February 28, 2014 11:18 AM (nzKvP)

276 Can't wait until our weak and feckless President issues another 'intervention line', whatever the hell that is. You invaded Alaska, Putin. Time for an intervention line.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 28, 2014 11:18 AM (XyM/Y)

277 245 Marcus T, No Marcus...we are undermining it here. 52% could not give less a fuck there.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:18 AM (TE35l)

278 'Warning'? Oh noes, Russia is going to get disinvited to all the good Beltway cocktail parties.
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Hey John you done shining my shoes yet? No? Then get back to work.

Posted by: Preznit Big Brother at February 28, 2014 11:18 AM (P3U0f)

279 Any Americans that would oppose the return of Alaska to Russia would obviously be neo-Nazi. The Bering Strait is a vital strategic asset for Putin. We shouldn't object if they decide to take back what is theirs. And if I get a signed picture of a shirtless Putin out of the deal, all the sweeter.

Posted by: Merr Horgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:18 AM (SY2Kh)

280 Snowden has more balls than the entire GOPe.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 28, 2014 11:18 AM (7ObY1)

281 Wait till some of the Taters start believing the fundamentalists. We'll see if the IED's start to show up.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 11:19 AM (GGCsk)

282 if the people of western Ukraine want their own country, they will have to fight for it themselves, we are not in a position to give it to them and even if we could we shouldn't.

Posted by: Shoey at February 28, 2014 11:19 AM (vA94g)

283 It's a good thing we are unilaterally disarming, otherwise the Ukraine might start a war thinking we could help liberate them from their Russian mother

Posted by: Chuck 'Scapegoat' Hagel at February 28, 2014 11:19 AM (Q6pxP)

284 yankeefifth, So, the guy who did all that let you watch, huh? Posted by: West at February 28 dude, watching was good enough, it was like being a witness to history, like it will be when the vikings win a super bowl

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:19 AM (rDidD)

285 All of those Leftists - including Obama - complained about the US spending more on defense than any other country. What do you think that they intended by that? They wanted us not to be outspending everyone else. Obama was elected to preside over the decline of the US. It may not be what you or I wanted, but the people who elected him did. They were tired of Iraq, of getting our guys blowed and the people we were saving still hating us.

Posted by: blaster at February 28, 2014 11:19 AM (4+AaH)

286 Here it is: Putin’s Bluff: U.S. Spies Say Russia Won't Invade Ukraine American intelligence has concluded that Russia won't openly invade Ukraine, despite a massive military exercise on the border and the armed takeover of local airports. U.S. intelligence estimates conclude that Russia has no intention of invading Ukraine. This, despite the launch of a massive, new Russian military exercise near Ukraine’s border and moves from armed men to seize two key airports in the country's Crimea region. The latest developments led Ukraine's interior minister Arsen Avakov Friday to accuse Russia of invading the Russian majority province of Crimea after armed militias took control of the civilian airport in Simferopol, the region's capital and the military airport in Sevastopol, where Russia's Black Sea fleet is based. Russian authorities meanwhile have denied any responsibility for the seizure of the two airports in the region. On Wednesday Russia's president, Vladimir Putin, ordered 150,000 troops to take part in a military exercise his defense minister said was a routine test of combat readiness. A senior U.S. intelligence official told The Daily Beast that the timing of the military exercise, coming only days after the Ukrainian parliament voted to oust the pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, was suspicious. But nonetheless, U.S. intelligence agencies have collected no information suggesting the training exercises were preparation for an invasion. “The mere fact of the timing when you consider what is going on in Ukraine and you see the sudden nature of the exercise would cause concern,” this official said. “From an intelligence perspective we don’t have any reason to think it’s more than military exercises." The assessment is based in part on the fact that not enough medical units have been ordered to accompany the Russian troops to the Ukrainian border to suggest preparation for war,according to one Congressional staffer who has seen intelligence on Russia. This source also said no signal intercepts have detected plans for an invasion.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:20 AM (RJMhd)

287
All those russian white dudes look the same.

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at February 28, 2014 11:20 AM (gorVZ)

288 Snowden has more balls than the entire GOPe.
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So does the list of finalists of the Miss America Pageant.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 11:20 AM (P3U0f)

289 I won the Cold War, and now this crypto-marxist is going to give it away.

Posted by: Ronaldo Magnus at February 28, 2014 11:20 AM (Q6pxP)

290 OH, and how could I have fucking forgot

California was also Russian territory.

Comrades, to the barricades~!!!!!!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 28, 2014 11:21 AM (uctT+)

291 Never bring a treaty to a nuclear fight. Or something like that. Disarm they said, we'll protect you they said! Shit.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 11:21 AM (A98Xu)

292 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:21 AM (nzKvP)

293 All those russian white dudes look the same. Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at February sadly, those were women

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:21 AM (rDidD)

294 if the people of western Ukraine want their own country, they will have to fight for it themselves, we are not in a position to give it to them and even if we could we shouldn't
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The problem is the Russians won't play with kid gloves like we did in Iraq/A-stan.

Take up arms against the Russians and they'll kill you and your whole village...


Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 11:21 AM (P3U0f)

295 "Caesar, do not cross the Rubicon or there will be big trouble." We all know how that one went.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at February 28, 2014 11:21 AM (nj9sX)

296 Russia is not a great power,of course neither is Ukraine.

Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (zqvg6)

297 >>>Merr Horgenholz Apparently, some of you fucking retards think that history is What you want it to be. When you study the history of Eastern Europe as much as I have, get back to me you dumb fuck

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (4FsPw)

298

Something will be worked out betw. Ukraine and Russia, serious conflict is unlikely.  UKR needs the revenue from energy transport, and some of the energy itself, coming from RUS.  RUS needs UKR cooperation for exporting that energy.  Anything is possible, but economic realities, I think, put fairly narrow parameters on both sides (not to mention on the EU, toothless anyway of course, but in this case directly dependent on the same energy exports for consumption).

 

I doubt Poland is next, or anyone, really.  Putin is not stupid.  By nixing any pro-EU or NATO shenanigans in UKR, he has protected his key interest and reaffirmed the power calculus in the region (i.e., on key issues RUS will not be trifled with).  There is no need for "next".  Poland and Czech Rep. were screwed right out of the gate in Bambi's first term (really one of the more shocking and shameful episodes in modern US foreign policy history, stunning really - but alas just one more jaw-dropping outrage in a torrent that dulls the senses and overwhelms the keyboard ....).

 

I think RUS gets de facto control of Crimea (or de jure, via referendum, legal basis for which is being laid in the Russian Duma), acquiescence to their plunging their mitts deeper into eastern UKR (was reading last night on the ITAR-TASS feed about the Duma creating streamlined citizenship process for ethnic Russian UKR citizens), and a reaffirmed power arrangement in south central Europe. 

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (afQnV)

299 Disarm they said, we'll protect you they said! Shit.
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Hey guys, remember us?

Posted by: Poland, protected by treaty, in 1939 at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (P3U0f)

300 Too bad were mothballing the A10. They're all lined up. Ducks in a pond Maybe just a flyover?

Posted by: thunderb at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (54GKK)

301 O/T Your "Can we burn Hollywood now?" story du jour has the following elements: * Remake of The Birds * Michael Bay http://tinyurl.com/md447ec We now return you to the runup to WW3, already in progress.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, future overlord of the winter wastes at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (naUcP)

302 Obama would give up Alaska just to get back at Palin. 

And Palin should respond by deploying A-10s from Eielson piloted by grizzly bears. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (Ec6wH)

303 Will Elbonia take this naked aggression lying down?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (6bMeY)

304 290 OH, and how could I have fucking forgot

California was also Russian territory.

Comrades, to the barricades~!!!!!!!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 28, 2014 04:21 PM

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They can have that back.

Posted by: irright at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (8GKDa)

305 Russia is not a great power,of course neither is Ukraine. Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2014 04:22 PM (zqvg6) Russia might not be a great power anymore, but they are kicking our asses all over the world

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:22 AM (nzKvP)

306 285 Blaster, Yup it's why in the event we're fucked out of our pension Wife will not rejoin unless it is a real US invasion. Fuck the left and the fucking retards who elect them

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (TE35l)

307 301 Anybody want to bet the remake of The Birds doesn't blame " climate change"?Anybody??

Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (zqvg6)

308 Ya'll keep forgetting that those red lines have more flexibility now that the election is over.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (jTKU5)

309 This source also said no signal intercepts have detected plans for an invasion. --- It's like, maybe Russia has some information now that they didn't use to have that helped them hide their electronic communications from American signal interception. What could that be?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (ZPrif)

310 Russia is not a great power,of course neither is Ukraine.
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Russia may not have the material wealth that say America has...but it has the will...and that makes all the difference

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (P3U0f)

311 as is giving the russians crimea is a best - case scenario.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (rDidD)

312 We have not looked this weak and ineffectual since the USSR invaded Afghanistan.

Obama is a pussy.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (5fSr7)

313 My inactions will unite the workers of the world, with all my friends in the Federal Government who don't work but collect paychecks

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (Q6pxP)

314 wow I can't wait to read Peggy Noonan wax eloquently on this matter a month from now!

Posted by: soothie at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (mbm6i)

315 >>>tasker That assessment is from the blaze. Apparently, quoting MSNBC was too embarrassing

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:23 AM (4FsPw)

316

Crypto?

 

*burnishes Little Red Schoolhouse diploma*

Posted by: Obama at February 28, 2014 11:24 AM (r3HOo)

317 Posted by: Poland, protected by treaty, in 1939 at February 28, 2014 04:22 PM (P3U0f) That one still makes me sick. Not the treaty, Obama's failure to cover it.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 11:24 AM (A98Xu)

318 >>Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 04:18 PM (TE35l) <<

No doubt. And this would be the same group who would probably believe in the 1930's and early 40's that Germany's action were not our concern or the Soviets after World War II were simply misunderstood.

It never stops with one country (in fact it's already been more than one for the Russians) and it only gets more dangerous for our future from here.

Obama has put our country in a terrible position and he will most likely be gone by the time it hits the fan. But if past is prologue- it will.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2014 11:24 AM (GGCsk)

319 Obama set out with the open intention of Euro-ifying the USA.

Euro-style welfare state.

Euro-style social mores.

Euro-style energy policy (with $8/gal gasoline).

A Euro-style downsized military that cannot perform expeditionary roles.

And a Euro-style foreign policy which consists of impotently squeaking and beeping via diplomatic communiques whenever someone does something unpleasant.

So far precisely on plan.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 28, 2014 11:24 AM (gqT4g)

320 SO ? nothing

Posted by: willow at February 28, 2014 11:24 AM (nqBYe)

321 Russia is not a great power,of course neither is Ukraine. *** and,neither is any single european country or collection of european countries

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:24 AM (rDidD)

322

Wow.  I've been reading about how the Tatars were getting along with the Russkies until of late, so I just assumed they'd always hung around.  If you can trust Wiki to report census data, the Tatar population of Crimea has been:

 

1897:  35.5%

1939:  19.4%

1959:   0.0%

1979:  0.7%

1989:  1.6%

2001:  12.0%

 

So I guess they're coming back.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 28, 2014 11:25 AM (A0sHn)

323 Anybody want to bet the remake of The Birds doesn't blame " climate change"?Anybody??
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Don't make me have to put away my foote pajamas...fight climate change!

Posted by: Obamacare boy at February 28, 2014 11:25 AM (P3U0f)

324 Some guy who looks and sounds like death warmed over on FOX

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:25 AM (nzKvP)

325 If we told John Kerry how much carbon dioxide those Russian military diesels release maybe he would get upset enough to write a letter.

Posted by: Jean at February 28, 2014 11:25 AM (4JkHl)

326 309 flatbush joe, Someone who aided them... A Democrat who voted for Obama...no not Ted Kennedy Snowden... Sucks we weren't allowed to attack Red Barry.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:25 AM (TE35l)

327 See how flexible I am Vladimir?  Now show me your manhood

Posted by: Barky McBamastain at February 28, 2014 11:25 AM (Q6pxP)

328 309 This source also said no signal intercepts have detected plans for an invasion. --- It's like, maybe Russia has some information now that they didn't use to have that helped them hide their electronic communications from American signal interception. What could that be? Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 28, 2014 04:23 PM (ZPrif) *********** Well the part that struck me as particularly bad was-- eh, they didn't bring enough medics.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:26 AM (RJMhd)

329 Yeah,the Soviets looked awesome when Carter was in power.It was a facade.Their power now is even more of a house of cards.

Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2014 11:26 AM (zqvg6)

330 Meanwhile Putin is fucking that gymnast isn't he?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:26 AM (nzKvP)

331 Obama set out with the open intention of Euro-ifying the USA.
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You forgot moving to a technocracy that only appears to include representative government...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 11:26 AM (P3U0f)

332 Crimea?  Sounds like a story for the cable networks.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at February 28, 2014 11:26 AM (Q6pxP)

333 The problem is the Russians won't play with kid gloves like we did in Iraq/A-stan. Take up arms against the Russians and they'll kill you and your whole village... Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 04:21 PM (P3U0f) still it seems to me that the only people that are successful at creating new countries are the ones where they fight for it themselves, we tried the nation-building thing and it's not working anymore. I'm not saying we should ignore what's going on and we can help in many ways, but we can't fight this battle for them

Posted by: Shoey at February 28, 2014 11:26 AM (vA94g)

334 obama is figuring out his options but it is taking longer becasue he has to figure out how much carbon his various military options will generate and how is going to offset the emissions.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:27 AM (rDidD)

335 eh, they didn't bring enough medics
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We don't need no stinking medics...we've got more then enough bullets, gas, and high explosive though.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 28, 2014 11:27 AM (P3U0f)

336 but we can't fight this battle for them Posted by: Shoey at February 28, 2014 04:26 PM (vA94g) Nobody said we should.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:28 AM (nzKvP)

337 Finally we can get $8 a gallon gas.

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at February 28, 2014 11:28 AM (Q6pxP)

338 There must be a Ukrainian Army.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 11:28 AM (6bMeY)

339 Their power now is even more of a house of cards. Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2014 04:26 PM (zqvg6) Maybe so, corruption and all, but it appears Putin is proactive in negotiating fuel pipelines. And making friends in appropriate places. Obama, not so much.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 11:28 AM (A98Xu)

340 Russia ceded Crimea back to Ukraine fifty years ago, but they had their fingers crossed when they signed the paperwork so it doesn't count. Ukrainians should be grateful to bask in the dirty, sexy glory of Vladimir. They'd love him too if they knew him like I do.

Posted by: Merr Horgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:28 AM (SY2Kh)

341 hope this kerfluffle doesn't get in the way of obama making his March Madness bracket picks

Posted by: soothie at February 28, 2014 11:28 AM (mbm6i)

342 Those Russian soldiers are all pussies. Every one of them is wearing a shirt.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 11:29 AM (6bMeY)

343

Before the bolsheviks, many intellectuals thought that Russia would lead the way in being the savior of western civilization, which Russia has actually treasured since Peter the Great.

 

How ironic if that turns out to be the case.

 

You think the EU is a run to freedom??  They're just as bad, unelected fucks, the stupid euros just don't know it yet.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 28, 2014 11:29 AM (tVTLU)

344 Pretty sure Putin is fucking anyone he wants to fuck.

Posted by: garrett at February 28, 2014 11:29 AM (2Ht/5)

345 Ahh, I get it, this is a local story.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 28, 2014 11:29 AM (A98Xu)

346 as is giving the russians crimea is a best - case scenario.

Posted by: yankeefifth


Give? That horse is out the barn, down the road, out of the factory, in a jar, on the shelf waiting to become little Susie Q's next art project.

It's a matter now of how much of the rest of Ukraine Putin will take with him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 28, 2014 11:29 AM (uctT+)

347 Barry is ready to get a second taste of Vlad's dick

Posted by: Bashar al Assad at February 28, 2014 11:29 AM (Q6pxP)

348 341 I don't let anything get in the way of the important stuff.Fore! Barakka

Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2014 11:30 AM (zqvg6)

349 I really don't see the point. There wasn't any shooting, no resistance.
Apparently no one cares.
What's the problem?

Obama could put troops around D.C. airports and say it was an anti terrorist operation and everyone shrug.

Obama could put troops around Congress and start arresting republicans and the news media would call it government reform, and claim it was an investigation into corruption.

Posted by: Ralph P. Omish at February 28, 2014 11:30 AM (Lec7/)

350 There must be a Ukrainian Army. Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2014 04:28 PM (6bMeY) They are busy at Babi Yar

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:30 AM (nzKvP)

351 and I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything.

Posted by: Shoey at February 28, 2014 11:30 AM (vA94g)

352 The Obama Administration is the most pusillanimous and hapless band of nitwits since the four year term of President James Buchanan (D).

Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2014 11:30 AM (JBggj)

353 "Obama would give up Alaska just to get back at Palin."

FFS, Obama already _has_ given up a chunk of Alaska to the Russians. An oil-rich chunk, at that. Because oil is icky.

http://tinyurl.com/7rs78wf

In a deal which he said would help prove our bona fides as good partners, and bring the Russians to the negotiating table in an amicable frame of mind.

So, um, how's that working out, Barry?

Posted by: torquewrench at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (gqT4g)

354 284 yankeefifth,

So, the guy who did all that let you watch, huh?


Posted by: West at February 28

dude, watching was good enough, it was like being a witness to history, like it will be when the vikings win a super bowl

_____________________________

O.K., you have a point.

Posted by: West at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (1Rgee)

355 Do you think Vlad will hire me to run his 2016 campaign.... I think the base will vote for him over Hillary.

Posted by: David Axlerod at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (Q6pxP)

356 Maybe so, corruption and all, but it appears Putin is proactive in negotiating fuel pipelines. And making friends in appropriate places.

Obama, not so much.
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There was plenty of corruption in Germany in 1939 too and they conquered most of Europe.

The interesting thing about the sort of corporatism that is now all the rage in the US, Europe, and Russia is that it is effective enough to generate wealth across the society as a whole while especially enriching those with political power.

It is significantly less efficient then capitalism at generating wealth, but the governing classes of the states in question have figured out how to stop the food riots and such that would have plagued them if they had gone full communist...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (P3U0f)

357 Russia has wealth. A lot of wealth. Just ask people in NYC who is buying up the close to 100 million dollar apartments there. The list of richest people in the world includes a number of Russian "businessmen". I don't think one can discount the will of not just Putin but also a number of those wealthy businessmen when it comes to protecting their financial interests. And if the people in Ukraine get in the way, well...

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (RZ8pf)

358 329 Yeah,the Soviets looked awesome when Carter was in power.It was a facade.Their power now is even more of a house of cards. Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2014 04:26 PM (zqvg6) *********** Well that is a limiting factor. Also read somewhere where Russians in Crimea were forming militias--to fight for Russia. Something like that. Can't remember where I read that--also don't know how reliable that is. And I remember reading that the person reporting this only saw a thousand or so doing that.

Posted by: tasker at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (RJMhd)

359 351 I am. We don't have the horsepower anymore for this.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (ojnk6)

360 Hey so glad we fucked Poland on that Missile deal to pacify the Russians

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (nzKvP)

361 339 seems legit, Barry is busy preventing is from having a sane energy policy. Seriously fuck Obama, the left, and the media....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (TE35l)

362 nood Ace

Posted by: soothie at February 28, 2014 11:31 AM (mbm6i)

363 They should run the fucking Tartars out of Crimea for good...

Posted by: prescient11 at February 28, 2014 11:32 AM (tVTLU)

364 Looking at Google News, no mention in ANY of the headlines that there are Russian troops in the Ukraine, merely some vague mentions of 'gunmen'.

1984 took a while to get here, but I think it has finally arrived.


Posted by: West at February 28, 2014 11:33 AM (1Rgee)

365 The only question remaining is whether Barry or Vlad is the third anti-christ....

who am I kidding, Vlad isn't the one being worshiped.

Posted by: Nostradamus at February 28, 2014 11:34 AM (Q6pxP)

366 We don't need no stinking medics...we've got more then enough bullets, gas, and high explosive though. Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 28 well, both sides are shooting 7.62 so nothing medics could do to help a guy anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:34 AM (rDidD)

367

FFS, Obama already _has_ given up a chunk of Alaska to the Russians. An oil-rich chunk, at that. Because oil is icky.

 

FFS, if true.  It's sourced to World Net Daily.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 28, 2014 11:34 AM (A0sHn)

368 Hey so glad we fucked Poland on that Missile deal to pacify the Russians
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I think if I was a Polish political leader that I'd be looking into just how much my own Manhattan project would cost right now.

Does anyone think the US will intervene anywhere east of Germany at this point?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2014 11:34 AM (P3U0f)

369 who am I kidding, Vlad isn't the one being worshiped.
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but I can make your god bleed.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 28, 2014 11:35 AM (P3U0f)

370 Was there a 3 a.m. phone call? Did anyone answer?

Posted by: BignJames at February 28, 2014 11:35 AM (j7iSn)

371 Yankeefifth, now there's a man who knows his rounds!!

Posted by: prescient11 at February 28, 2014 11:36 AM (tVTLU)

372 Does anyone think the US will intervene anywhere east of Germany at this point? Europe is gonna have to start paying for its own defense. We're broke.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 28, 2014 11:36 AM (JFbSU)

373 Was there a 3 a.m. phone call? Did anyone answer?
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FFS why didn't anyone tell me to check my voicemail all day?

I've got like 10 calls.

Don't these people know I've got stuff to do?

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 28, 2014 11:36 AM (P3U0f)

374 fucking poland, hell obama is fucking us. his arms control negotiatiors have been giving the russians classified information about everything they can. so much has been compromised having anything in poland is nearly useless.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:36 AM (rDidD)

375 @20committee is a great friend/follow on twitter, yep. And eventually you even learn to spell committee right typing it out.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at February 28, 2014 11:37 AM (ekmuQ)

376 Yankeefifth, now there's a man who knows his rounds!! Posted by: prescient11 at February 28

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:37 AM (rDidD)

377 A full on assault into Ukraine would have the potential to cause a refugee crisis into Poland/Czech, etc. Nothing draws countries into a war faster than when that war pours over it's borders. This isn't sub-Saharan Africa, they won't be living in tents, drinking from communal wells, they'll be a real issue for wherever they end up, and they'll head straight West.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 28, 2014 11:37 AM (ZshNr)

378 Europe is gonna have to start paying for its own defense. We're broke.
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If you believe we are broke I've got a trillion dollar coin with FDR's name on it for you.

In fact, trillion dollar coins for everyone..weeeeeeee!!!!

Posted by: Paul Krugman at February 28, 2014 11:38 AM (P3U0f)

379 372 Does anyone think the US will intervene anywhere east of Germany at this point? even if we wanted to we couldn't.

Posted by: Shoey at February 28, 2014 11:38 AM (vA94g)

380 Keep in mind, the cocksucking GOP wants to reduce our nuclear stockpile.

Fucking feckless shitstains.

Posted by: CPAC Welcome Committee at February 28, 2014 11:38 AM (Cs2tJ)

381 yeah, regarding the 3am phone call the joke is we were arguing about who wold answer the call, no one thought to ask if one of the candidates would let it go to vm like obama.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:38 AM (rDidD)

382 even if we wanted to we couldn't.
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Seriously guys...again... WTF.

Posted by: Poland at February 28, 2014 11:39 AM (P3U0f)

383 no one thought to ask if one of the candidates would let it go to vm like obama.
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You've reached President McAwesome Sauce's voicemail.

If you are cool enough to talk to me, leave a message at the tone.

Otherwise, I've got people to do, things to see, and places to uh...something.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 28, 2014 11:40 AM (P3U0f)

384 Remember that Obama is just one Olympics boycott away from completing his full Carterization. This could be it!

Posted by: Max Entropy at February 28, 2014 11:41 AM (cgtTL)

385 well the good news for poland is that they are never going to find themselves the battleground between two major powers like they did between the nazis and sovs, this time there is going to be a little fighting on their eastern border for a few days and then it is all done.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 28, 2014 11:41 AM (rDidD)

386 >>The assessment is based in part on the fact that not enough medical units have been ordered to accompany the Russian troops to the Ukrainian border to suggest preparation for war,according to one Congressional staffer who has seen intelligence on Russia. This source also said no signal intercepts have detected plans for an invasion. << They expected nobody to shoot or shell parked trucks and buildings, because WAR WITH RUSSIA!!!1!

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 28, 2014 11:42 AM (5xmd7)

387 Into the Valley of Obamacare Death Rode the $600 Co-Pay?

Posted by: @ParisParamus at February 28, 2014 11:42 AM (ztMkL)

388 381 even if we wanted to we couldn't. ___ Seriously guys...again... WTF. Posted by: Poland at February 28, 2014 04:39 PM (P3U0f) sorry man, it's always sucked ass to Poland...

Posted by: Shoey at February 28, 2014 11:43 AM (vA94g)

389 Russia is not a great power,of course neither is Ukraine.
Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2014 04:22 PM (zqvg6)

Russia has the world's 5th largest GDP (up from 10th when Putin took office) and 3rd largest military budget.  They aren't a superpower anymore, but I'd say they have regained at least borderline great power status.

Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at February 28, 2014 11:44 AM (DPMu1)

390 to be Poland

Posted by: Shoey at February 28, 2014 11:44 AM (vA94g)

391 interesting, our state department, fueled by massive amounts of smart power, alleges that yanukovich is not a legitimate president because he ...abandoned his post (i would too if i had a gun to my head).  funny they don't site any legal or legislative reasons or anything.
oh, and russia just dropped a few thousand troops in crimea.  kerry better get on the phone.

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2014 11:45 AM (yrk2K)

392 69 Only people afraid of Barry and Co. are Boehner and McConnell. _____________ This just about sums up the situation. We are in good hands. Wonder what Soros is telling Obama and Jarrett to do?

Posted by: Chilling the most at February 28, 2014 11:46 AM (gxtMZ)

393 I'm pretty sure Putin's response could be summarized as: how would you like to suck my balls, Mr. Kerry? http://youtu.be/i6oivZ3iKr4

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 28, 2014 11:47 AM (1hM1d)

394 Does the line refer to Russia's intervention, or a line that would trigger our intervention? ************* LOL. Like it matters. The only consequence for crossing one of Barry's "lines" is that he stamps a foot, or wags a finger, or writes you a sternly-worded letter, or -- and this is the most likely one -- tries to pretend he never drew the line to begin with. ("It wasn't my red line, it was the world's red line. And since the world doesn't care about enforcing it, why should I?")

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at February 28, 2014 11:48 AM (wqqv3)

395 In Branson, MO, Yakov Smirnov dusts off his old jokes and starts changing the names...

Posted by: --- at February 28, 2014 11:48 AM (w7wAx)

396 brb, crossin' an intervention line ---------------- That's easily the funniest thing I've read today. Well done, sir.

Posted by: MJ at February 28, 2014 11:49 AM (oari7)

397 Again, Crimea has been Russian territory for damn near three centuries. What they're doing now is bang the drum and maintaining the status quo. Nothing, is in fact, happening. That's the point that perhaps I poorly made previously. The Russians are going to give it up, and the Ukrainians don't need it because I've never had it. The whole thing in 1954 was Khrushchev turning it over to the Ukrainians was a farce. In retrospect, it was a stupid move because it leaves is where we're at now, but it didn't mean anything. Yeah, like you can sign a treaty with the Pooh

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:49 AM (eb1WB)

398 Um politburo i mean

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:50 AM (eb1WB)

399 Maybe we can send diverse and openly gay volunteers to scare away those homophobic russians

Posted by: Avi at February 28, 2014 11:51 AM (Gx3Fe)

400 A full on assault into Ukraine would have the potential to cause a refugee crisis into Poland/Czech, etc. Nothing draws countries into a war faster than when that war pours over it's borders. This isn't sub-Saharan Africa, they won't be living in tents, drinking from communal wells, they'll be a real issue for wherever they end up, and they'll head straight West. Posted by: Lincolntf at February 28, 2014 04:37 PM (ZshNr) *************** Don't worry, Barry will send planes over and give them all asylum here (so they can immediately get food stamps, welfare, etc.) -- or at least, he'll give all the Muslim, America-hating ones asylum. Worked out so well for us before, right Boston?

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at February 28, 2014 11:51 AM (wqqv3)

401 Because honestly, the last time I signed a treaty with poo, it really disappointed me

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 11:52 AM (eb1WB)

402 Send nuland in charging

Posted by: Avi at February 28, 2014 11:54 AM (Gx3Fe)

403 Maybe we can send diverse and openly gay volunteers to scare away those homophobic russians[\i] We'll draw a PINK line! Throw out your hands!! Stick out your tush!! Hands on your hips Give them a push!! You'll be surprised You're doing the French Mistake!! VOILA!!

Posted by: --- at February 28, 2014 11:55 AM (REhMw)

404 398 very interesting...

Posted by: The Gay Gestapo at February 28, 2014 11:55 AM (vA94g)

405 48 That red line? Yea apparently it's made with Russian troops and APC's.

http://bit.ly/NDOGHJ

(the cartoon was done about OMON, but it's still applicable)

Posted by: Anachronda at February 28, 2014 11:55 AM (U82Km)

406 Crap.

Posted by: --- at February 28, 2014 11:56 AM (REhMw)

407 396 The Russians are going to give it up, and the Ukrainians don't need it because I've never had it.

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz


Misspelled sock, missing not, botched pronoun. Go home, Morgenholz, you're drunk.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 28, 2014 11:59 AM (U82Km)

408 Meh. Divvy up, move on. We've got a country right here to destroy.

Posted by: His Royal Boredship of Chicago at February 28, 2014 11:59 AM (oari7)

409 394 In Branson, MO, Yakov Smirnov dusts off his old jokes and starts changing the names...

In Putin's Crimea, name changes you.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 28, 2014 12:00 PM (U82Km)

410 I will have to admit that my voice recognition is not state of the art.

Posted by: Herr Morgengolz at February 28, 2014 12:02 PM (S0vPg)

411 And of course I got my phone from the lowest bidder, being a rational man

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 28, 2014 12:03 PM (S0vPg)

412 None of this changes the fact that I shun pants. Hollowpoint merely shuns logic

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 28, 2014 12:04 PM (S0vPg)

413 Perhaps the term "tea bag" should be applied to Obama and Kerry vis a vis Putin.

Posted by: Avi at February 28, 2014 12:04 PM (Gx3Fe)

414 409 I will have to admit that my voice recognition is not state of the art.

Ah. The old "blame the computer" ploy.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 28, 2014 12:04 PM (U82Km)

415 Misspelled sock, missing not, botched pronoun. Go home, Morgenholz, you're drunk. His Russian-to-English translation software isn't working quite right.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 28, 2014 12:05 PM (SY2Kh)

416 Someone told me Putin said of negotiations with TFG. "It is like playing Chess with a pidgin. He knocks the peaces over, shits on the board, then struts around acting like he won."

Posted by: jrcobbstr at February 28, 2014 12:06 PM (OGuBw)

417 364 Looking at Google News, no mention in ANY of the headlines that there are Russian troops in the Ukraine, merely some vague mentions of 'gunmen'.

Well, they're not wearing insignia, see, so we can't *prove* their Russian.

Posted by: Plausible Deniability at February 28, 2014 12:06 PM (U82Km)

418 Did anyone think when Madelaine Albright proclaimed that we should not be the world's sole superpower that the left would take steps to insure we wouldn't be for long?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 28, 2014 12:17 PM (IVgIK)

419 The only question here is how Preezy O'Jugears will use this crisis to funnel billions to his cronies.

Posted by: Cachaca at February 28, 2014 12:17 PM (0cMkb)

420 russia is not invading ukraine... sevastopol is a major russian navy base, and has been for decades.... it also happens to be the only russian navy base on the black sea, and it's only direct access to the entire aegean/medditarrenian bodies of water... russia is just securing it's military assests - nothing abnormal, or unusual... we would be doing the same

Posted by: zhulick at February 28, 2014 12:20 PM (OmGTv)

421 Didn't know this until last night... but Ukraine has a Defense agreement with the EU... Which puts the EU right on Russia's doorstep. Russia is not Expanding... but the EU certainly has been.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2014 12:24 PM (84gbM)

422 big peace headline: "Palin Mocked in 2008 for Warning Putin May Invade Ukraine if Obama Elected" copy: During the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin warned that if Senator Barack Obama were elected president, his "indecision" and "moral equivalence" may encourage Russia's Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine. Palin said then: After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next. For those comments, she was mocked by the high-brow Foreign Policy magazine and its editor Blake Hounshell, who now is one of the editors of Politico magazine.

Posted by: sound awake at February 28, 2014 12:30 PM (pk/NG)

423 Sudetenland II, anyone?

Posted by: Beverly at February 28, 2014 12:30 PM (/+71N)

424 It couldn't have happened.  I haven't gotten tomorrow's paper yet.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at February 28, 2014 12:37 PM (32NsX)

425

we would be doing the same

Posted by: zhulick at February 28, 2014 05:20 PM (OmGTv)

 

Yes, by all means let's give Putin every benefit of the doubt, put ourselves in his shoes, and empathize with the terribly unfair plight of the Sudeten Germans, er, sorry, Ukrainian Russians.  Putin seems like a perfectly reasonable fellow to me. I have seen into the depths of  his soul, you know, and the experience was telling (and somehow eerily reminiscent of biting into a raw avocado, but no matter).

 

I think perhaps we shall have a conference of some sort, Putin and I, after which we shall sign an agreement of some sort, one suitable for waving in the air and making grand declarations. It shall all go swimmingly, I think.

Posted by: Zombie Neville Chamberlain at February 28, 2014 12:43 PM (V9ol4)

426 The winner on Twitter from @GuyPBenson

"This is quite an elaborate closing ceremony from the Russians!"

Posted by: Dick (@DicksTrash) at February 28, 2014 12:43 PM (GrtrJ)

427 Honestly, effete poseur in the White House aside, why should anyone care what Putin does in the Crimea (and probably at least some of the Russian-friendly Eastern areas of the Ukraine ? What exactly IS our interest there apart from dimly remembered anti-Russian knee-jerk from the Cold War ? Is the 'free' part of the Ukraine likely to be anything but a corrupt, inefficient, economic basket case requiring continuing infusions of cash just to keep treading water ? Of course not. Let's just not bother and say nothing much at all about this sphere of influence thingy. That way at least we don't appear laughable as well as powerless. Laughable is NOT good.

Posted by: Dougf at February 28, 2014 12:50 PM (uJ4Fe)

428 elections have consequences

Posted by: sound awake at February 28, 2014 12:51 PM (pk/NG)

429 Crimea! Schimea! This pathetic 'invasion' is pure bluster by Putin. In a few days he'll give Crimea back. Why? BECAUSE HE RESPECTS OBAMA TOO MUCH TO DO OTHERWISE

Posted by: John (Forged In Vietnam) Kerry at February 28, 2014 12:57 PM (V0j3u)

430 366 Prolly 5.45 v 7.62...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at February 28, 2014 01:02 PM (4DCSq)

431 While they lost a lot of guys, the Charge of the Light Brigade was actually successful. They captured the artillery they went for even though they should have been slaughtered, largely because the enemy was so amazed by their actions and bravery.
Of course they were then well out of position, cut off from the main forces, and surrounded by the enemy, so it was a boneheaded move, but it wasn't exactly a disaster.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 28, 2014 01:18 PM (zfY+H)

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