June 29, 2010

Another Video Slams Obama on Spill Response
— Ace

At RightChange.com.

Brutal.

Oil Spill Timeline from RightChange on Vimeo.

If only there were a crisis for which the correct solution was to play golf... -- from t-bird.

The RNC's attempt is below. I often find myself critical of the RNC's ads for the same reason: They try to sell things lightly, through humor. Often this is an effective technique, but some things are more serious than that, and if you try a soft-sell cutesy-funny ad it seems like you, the ad's author, are no more serious than Obama.

I know the first ad is very tough, very dramatic, and maybe that's a turn off, but on some of these you have to go hard, and not try to soften it too much with humor.

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1 If only there were a crisis for which the correct solution was to play golf...

Posted by: t-bird at June 29, 2010 12:54 PM (cQ0IV)

2 You know what they need down there?  Some lawyers.

Posted by: Truman North at June 29, 2010 12:57 PM (e8YaH)

3 I won bitches.

Posted by: B+rry Oblahblah at June 29, 2010 12:57 PM (yQWNf)

4 Selling snake oil doesn't make you a petroleum engineer.

Posted by: tmitsss at June 29, 2010 12:57 PM (9CEXs)

5 "And this is what I go to bed at night thinking about."




Posted by: davidt at June 29, 2010 12:58 PM (HtIec)

6 And this is what I go to bed at night thinking about."

Plugging the damn hole?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 29, 2010 12:59 PM (yQWNf)

7 When all you have is a teleprompter, every problem begins to look like a speech can solve it.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 29, 2010 12:59 PM (bPkzf)

8 I bet some SWAT teams could fix that

Posted by: Truman North at June 29, 2010 01:00 PM (e8YaH)

9 Great 1st ad. Heartbreaking & effective.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 01:00 PM (Yq+qN)

10 I like the rightchange. It's so good it's hard to cap with a snarky comment.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 29, 2010 01:01 PM (0q2P7)

11 The RightChange ad was pretty good. I'm having technical difficulties with the RNC ad which may be a feature and not a bug.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 29, 2010 01:01 PM (pEK05)

12 So aloof, one wonders if he can make out the outline of the gulf from that height.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 29, 2010 01:02 PM (0q2P7)

13

C'est vrai.  I am amazed how the media isn't even covering this any more.  Yeah, that whole "In the coming days and weeks, 90% of the oil will be captured."  Whatever happened to that?  I hate the media for not doing their job (you know they'd be on this like flies on poo if this happened under George Bush--contrast the coverage of this Gulf Crisis with Katrina).  And yeah, Obama's not fit to lead anything, not even a Brownie troop.  (Oops, was that racist?  I ban myself!)

Posted by: runningrn at June 29, 2010 01:02 PM (CfmlF)

14

They both work, it's just a matter of audience targeting, although in this case I think the hard as nails/serious as a heart attack approach is correct for most people.

Let Carville provide the hysterics.  Find solutions.  And take scalps from the bunch of dipshits running this thing in Wash.

Posted by: rickinstl at June 29, 2010 01:02 PM (iLoEX)

15

And this is what I go to bed at night thinking about."

Plugging the damn hole?

 

In Barry's defense, that's a lot of ground to cover. 

Posted by: runningrn at June 29, 2010 01:04 PM (CfmlF)

16 I didn't get a boner with these non-Gorman ads.

Posted by: Randy McAnal at June 29, 2010 01:04 PM (pEK05)

17

Both are effective. The Carville bits are the best --- can't spin off that criticism by simply saying well its so and so - and they don't like the President.

Other than that, the only thing left to say is..........."Fore"!

Posted by: Mallamutt, seeking the job of AOSHQ pollster at June 29, 2010 01:04 PM (OWjjx)

18 The first ad by RightChange is pretty powerful. The RNC ad is fine; the lightheartedness of the video conveys the lightheartedness with which Hussein has approached the spill. The only thing he seems to be intently concentrating on is improving his golf game.

I would go so far as to say Hussein's obstruction in allowing states to protect their shoreline is criminal and worthy of impeachment. Governors whose states are impacted by the spill should defy the feds and do whats needed to protect their coast. If federal agents step in to obstruct arrest them or shoot them.

Posted by: Dillinger at June 29, 2010 01:05 PM (BedzM)

19 The first ad was bang-on. The second is the kind of juvenile snickering I have come to expect from an RNC run by Michael "What Up?" Steele. It's not even worth looking at a second time.

Only when the brutal nature of the oil spill is burned into the public consciousness will the true criminal incompetence of Osama Obama be apparent.

If this was the Traitor-in-Chief's sole screwup during his reign, it would be grounds for impeachment if he wasn't an affirmative-action "precedent-breaker."

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 29, 2010 01:05 PM (Ulu3i)

20 Is he one of those people who can only be seen in a mirror?

No look closely, one that you can't see in a mirror.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 29, 2010 01:05 PM (0q2P7)

21 Dear Diary:  how I another day of my summer vacation:

Three months of this stupid gulf oil spill - can't you fuckers do anything for yourselves ?  Greedy Wall Street fatcats pushed stocks to their lowest point this year - again.  Found out Vlad's been spying on me after we had so much fun at the dacha.  Had to appoint frickin' Bushitler's general in Afghanistan.  The damned imperialist colonialists in Europe scared all of my third-world supporters off at the G20 - how many Nobel Prizes do those pasty capitalist assholes have ?

G2G, diary.  Stupid Joe's got some more war plans he wants to go over - must've been playing Splinter Cell with his grandkids again last night.  Cya....

Posted by: Barry at June 29, 2010 01:06 PM (7ZyYf)

22 I like these ads in general, same theme, lack of leadership.  They also bother me in a it would be funny if it wasn't so sad kind of way.  Prez Child 44 is so incompetent I don't expect that this thing will be plugged and cleaned up for a long long time.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 29, 2010 01:07 PM (T0bhq)

23 The 2nd ad is good, but the echo is rather annoying & drowns-out the message.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 01:08 PM (Yq+qN)

24 So should we just reiterate the need to check tire pressures? Will that work?

Posted by: President Over-Par at June 29, 2010 01:08 PM (swuwV)

25 20:  Gotta agree - mockery has its place but only on more trivial subjects - the "we're not laughing, Jokey" approach works best for stuff like the Gulf Spill (just ask Jan Brewer, whose "you think this is funny" ad was a home run).

Posted by: societyis2blame at June 29, 2010 01:09 PM (7ZyYf)

26 On a related note, I just finished reading the article, "Avertible catastrophe." (ShadyURL link)  Pretty revolting.

Posted by: Herr Blcher at June 29, 2010 01:10 PM (xwapH)

27 Yeah the video is OK, but to be honest I like the Republican chick in the jeans from Arizona alot more.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 29, 2010 01:11 PM (0GFWk)

28 20:

Can't go with you on the impeachment part, tho.  If being wretchedly incompetent and self-aggrandizing were grounds for impeachment, half of our past Presidents would have been toast.

Posted by: societyis2blame at June 29, 2010 01:12 PM (7ZyYf)

29 Geez, every time I see that clip of Obama singing "Hey Jude" with Paul McCartney, I'm struck by the fact that he thinks he is sooo cool.  He's not.  He's a giant earred douchedoofus. 

Posted by: runningrn at June 29, 2010 01:13 PM (CfmlF)

30 The letter in the 2nd ad is interesting, because it shows how the federal govt tried to "pass the buck". It also says the President would only participate in certain portions of the White House meeting. I really don't think he's serious about his responsibilities in this matter (as dictated after the Exxon spill).

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 01:14 PM (Yq+qN)

31 Look, you guys just don't get it.  I'd rather be a great one term President than a mediocre two term President.  Geeze.

Posted by: Preznit Barry at June 29, 2010 01:14 PM (pUfK9)

32 This is getting so tiresome. PLUG THE FU@#$#N hole, already! Can't we get someone in charge? For crying out loud, already. Fix IT!! Big hat no cattle.

Posted by: Frosty Wench at June 29, 2010 01:16 PM (vwh8M)

33 32 Look, you guys just don't get it.  I'd rather be a great one term President than a mediocre two term President.  Geeze.

Posted by: Preznit Barry

 

Dear Preznit - who told you, you were doing a great 1 term thing. Yo' mama lied.

Posted by: Say What? at June 29, 2010 01:19 PM (vwh8M)

34

Why does the image of Nero fiddling while Rome burns come to mind?

Posted by: Decaf at June 29, 2010 01:20 PM (NooBZ)

35 Everyone go drink their dinners or something?

Posted by: Truman North at June 29, 2010 01:22 PM (e8YaH)

36 33 This is getting so tiresome. PLUG THE FU@#$#N hole, already! Can't we get someone in charge? For crying out loud, already. Fix IT!! Big hat no cattle.

That's why they're drilling the relief wells, & it's going to take a few more weeks, minimum. But the clean-up efforts certainly could be handled better, absolutely.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 01:23 PM (Yq+qN)

37 On a related note, I just finished reading the article, "Avertible catastrophe." (ShadyURL link)  Pretty revolting.

That Palin woman and her preoccupation with the Dutch.  Pretty silly, huh?

Posted by: Bill O'Douchbag at June 29, 2010 01:24 PM (rqC5o)

38 36 Everyone go drink their dinners or something?

A majority is on the conservative candidate for Congress thread / in their bunks.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 01:25 PM (Yq+qN)

39
OT: Georgia-Pacific just shut down a plywood plant in Cleveland, TX (about 50 miles outside of Htown).  300-something people now jobless, out of a population of 8000.  Finally starting to see the Hopen'Change hit down in Texas.

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 29, 2010 01:26 PM (7YJQx)

40 But the clean-up efforts certainly could be handled better, absolutely.have existed beyond the cluster f*** that amounts to pointing at oil on beaches.


FIFY

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 29, 2010 01:28 PM (0q2P7)

41 More dead animals - that's what the ads need. Believe me, nothing will stick to Obama like oil on a pelican's ass better than lots of pictures of dead animals. The lefty environmentalists will throw up at the thought of it. This is what works with them: telling them that PEOPLE are going to starve means nothing. Showing them innocent dead birds lying with their webbed feet in the air will sear their souls.

Posted by: Dr Mabuse at June 29, 2010 01:29 PM (CPdUf)

42

If it wasn't for Bush's horrendous golf scores, Obama would not be morally compelled to beat them.

THIS IS BUSH'S FAULT!

Now on to a happier note:

Remember the California city of Maywood? The one that went broke, and ceased operations and had to fire all of their employees?

http://bit.ly/aY082E

Maywood was the first California city with an elected Hispanic City Council, one of the first "sanctuary" cities for illegal aliens, the first city to pass a resolution calling for a boycott of Arizona after that state passed a law to enforce federal immigration laws, the first California city to order its police department not to enforce state laws requiring drivers to have licenses to drive, the first American city to call on Congress to grant amnesty to all illegals.

Viva La Raza!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 29, 2010 01:30 PM (oIp16)

43 11 Thank God that while they included James Car-viles voice busting on OilBama, his image is not visible. Is he one of those people who can only be seen in a mirror?

Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at June 29, 2010 06:01 PM (IhHdM)

You kidding?  He probably jumps and screams every morning he wakes up and turns on the bathroom light.

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2010 01:30 PM (oVQFe)

44 Ouch.
That's going to leave a mark.

Posted by: looking closely at June 29, 2010 01:30 PM (KNy97)

45 If only there were a crisis for which the correct solution was to play golf...


I suppose there might be an answer there if you were Tiger Woods.

Unfortunately, Obama is not the "Tiger Woods" of management or leadership.

Posted by: looking closely at June 29, 2010 01:33 PM (KNy97)

46 Attn: 2012 GOP candidates

I hope you are writing this shit down in a notebook to remind yourself of how things are not to be handled. Every hour of every day of this clusterfuck is a master's course in what-not-to-do.

A few random lessons:
- Decide which agencies and dept are necessary. Clean up the ones that are necessary. Get competent people in place and make sure they are prepared for shit to happen.

- For better or worse we don't live in a patient age, so crises can't be left to fallow. OODA, emphasis on the act part. Search & destroy bottlenecks and incompetence especially if they lie within the Federal gov.

- Don't hold bullshit press conferences. Take your message directly to the citizens. Don't allow mealy-mouth, doublespeak to cross your lips. Tell it straight even if it is an unpopular message. Tell us we may dislike it but it's the best option among many poor ones.

- Don't fucking play golf. Period. Fucking find another activity.

- Above all else, don't be a Democrat. Don't even pretend to be one.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 29, 2010 01:35 PM (N/7an)

47 I'm no fan of the RNC, but I think it's important to note the Democrats' strategy.  They let the nutroots do the hard stuff and the DNC could play good cop.

If the nutroots go to far, then the organization disbands and the DNC's hands were clean.

We can't sit back and let the GOP do all of our work for us.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 29, 2010 01:35 PM (T0NGe)

48 Is there a way that Bobby Jindal can go around Obama without getting in some serious trouble?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 01:35 PM (Yq+qN)

49

You kidding? He probably jumps and screams every morning he wakes up and turns on the bathroom light. Posted by: buzzion

You, sir, have just won the Internets. Congrats.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 29, 2010 01:37 PM (N/7an)

50 I know this guy who must be GREAT at fixing leaks. He makes so much money doing it that the President wants to take it away and spread it around.

There's also this guy in Wisconsin who opens and closes valves hundreds of times a day without spilling goo all over the floor of his custard shop, while the smartest president evah is up to his knees in spilled goo.

The problem is Obama hires Nobel-winning physicists to solve non-theoretical problems.

Barry: Fewer useless smart guys. More competent smartasses.





Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 29, 2010 01:38 PM (a5ljo)

51
Is there a way that Bobby Jindal can go around Obama without getting in some serious trouble?

The feds have completely taken over state lands in the name of the EPA, Interior, and 'wetlands' (whatever those are).   But the sight of Wee Wee's henchman arresting Jindal would be some pretty powerful imagery.

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 29, 2010 01:38 PM (7YJQx)

52 Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaase release me, let me gooooooooooooo..

Posted by: Chakra at June 29, 2010 01:38 PM (e9JZd)

53 I liked the first ad.  I couldn't bring myself to watch the 2nd.  And that pretty much sums up what I think of the RNC.

Posted by: rockhead at June 29, 2010 01:39 PM (RykTt)

54  but on some of these you have to go hard, and not try to soften it too much with humor.

That's what she said?

Point taken. 


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 29, 2010 01:40 PM (9hSKh)

55 Amish, that's very perceptive.  The dems always have somebody sitting on the bench to go on cbs to  make the wild statement.  Usually somebody black.  They ALWAYS get a pass from the mfm.  Problem is, reps are held to higher standards, and the mfm at least partially agrees with any wild bullshit that their maniacs are shovelling.

Posted by: rickinstl at June 29, 2010 01:40 PM (iLoEX)

56 Why does the image of Nero fiddling while Rome burns come to mind?

Actually, Nero played a harp-like instrument called a cithara, as fiddles hadn't been invented yet. Which fits: Barry likes to harp; Barry fancies himself quite the singer and stage presence, just like Nero. Nero put on public performances of singing and acting in order to improve his popularity after the great fire of Rome in AD 64. Nero's last words, according to Suetonius, were "Qualis artifex pereo," or "What an artist is now about to die!" Add "B.S." before "artist" and substitute the Gulf catastrophe for the fire of Rome and you've got our modern Nero.

Posted by: PA Cat at June 29, 2010 01:42 PM (x1fQ/)

57 It's about farking time.  What were the feds waiting for?

US will accept 22 offers of help from 12 countries and international groups in dealing with Gulf oil spill - NBC News, AP

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 29, 2010 01:42 PM (9hSKh)

58 If the Republicans can't win huge this fall with the economy going over the falls, the disaster of a health care plan, the war in Afghanistan going pear shaped, the gulf turning into a dead zone and the various corrupt and sleazy shit oozing out of this administration... well they suck on an epic scale.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2010 01:43 PM (VW9/y)

59
Actually, Nero played a harp-like instrument called a cithara, as fiddles hadn't been invented yet.

band nerd

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 29, 2010 01:44 PM (7YJQx)

60 It's about farking time.  What were the feds waiting for?

US will accept 22 offers of help from 12 countries and international groups in dealing with Gulf oil spill - NBC News, AP

The unions had to sign off on the deal.

Posted by: huerfano at June 29, 2010 01:44 PM (rqC5o)

61 If the Republicans can't win huge this fall with the economy going over the falls, the disaster of a health care plan, the war in Afghanistan going pear shaped, the gulf turning into a dead zone and the various corrupt and sleazy shit oozing out of this administration... well they suck on an epic scale.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 29, 2010 06:43 PM (VW9/y)

Posted by: Preznit Barry at June 29, 2010 01:44 PM (pUfK9)

62 Oh, Preznit Barry was me... but it works, I guess.

Posted by: Editor at June 29, 2010 01:45 PM (pUfK9)

63 After weeks and weeks of mocking silly Sarah Palin for touting help from the Dutch  ("The Dutch? Seriously?"), how do Keith and Rachel report today's development?

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 29, 2010 01:49 PM (a5ljo)

64

JackStraw,

I think they'll win big-to-huge, depending on the breaks.  The thing to concentrate on is the aftermath.  No parties, no funny hats, no boasting.  I want to see grim determination, (although a certain amount of score settling with the dems is inevitable). Teach the winners to watch their mouths  when they've got cameras shoved in their faces.  Unity, America first, cut spending & taxes.  The rest will take care of itself.

Posted by: rickinstl at June 29, 2010 01:49 PM (iLoEX)

65 52 The feds have completely taken over state lands in the name of the EPA, Interior, and 'wetlands' (whatever those are).   But the sight of Wee Wee's henchman arresting Jindal would be some pretty powerful imagery.

I think it was a mistake for the govt to assign authority to the federal govt under the Oil Pollution Act (1990). The growing size of bureaucracy has increased the difficulties in cleaning-up this spill. Individuals trying to control a problem outside their realm of expertise is also further complicating things.

As for Jindal, I wish he would tell the feds off & work with the proper experts to do what's necessary to clean-up the spill. (Wish the other Gulf governors would do the same.) If the president doesn't grant authority, then these state officials will just be left waiting solely on BP, & they don't have the time.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 01:49 PM (Yq+qN)

66 Just a couple of observations:
1. Obama didn't know the words to "Hey Jude". Guaranteed. He had some of his staffers get him up to speed on who the Beatles were b/c he was listening to crap people get stoned to; furthermore, the Na na na na was on the teleprompter

2. Who cares how effective the ad is? Who is going to see it besides morons? The damn crickets chirping all over the place tells me all I need to know. The MFM should be forced to listen to their caterwauling during Katrina, Clarence Thomas, and any other time someone other than a Marxist or Socialist screwed up. I would like to see anything they said or the Dems said over the past 8 years that directly impugns their actions today.

They suck. Oh, and thanks again, 52'ers. You suck, too. Thanks for assuaging your guilt and cathartically shitting on the Constitution and what was once a fine republic.

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 01:51 PM (Gnv1i)

67 You want action, you want his attention, you want decisive outrage and fu-u-u-rious Samuel L Jackson anger? Put some oil in the bunkers at his next golf outing. That would be a state of emergency.

Posted by: t-bird at June 29, 2010 01:51 PM (FcR7P)

68 Newsflash:  The Gulf of Mexico oil leak contained. 

Today in a unprecedented engineering feat coordinated with the Coast Guard, BP using UAVs lowered a giant wedding ring to the leak site and it stopped putting out.

Posted by: tmitsss at June 29, 2010 01:52 PM (V4Pya)

69 Unprecedented! That's got precedent.

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 01:54 PM (Gnv1i)

70 Unfortunately, Obama is not the "Tiger Woods" of management or leadership.

Posted by: looking closely at June 29, 2010 06:33 PM (KNy97)

True.  Tiger likes white people.


Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 29, 2010 01:56 PM (oir6A)

71 @ tmitsss

Goes right along with the study Instapundit cited a few days ago which showed married women would rather read a book, watch a movie or stick their hand into a snake pit than have sex with their husband. ( I may have made up the last choice)

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 01:57 PM (Gnv1i)

72 The unions had to sign off on the deal

Yep.  The fact that even these anvil-headed greedmongers figured out that they weren't helping themselves by opposing the ships says volumes. 

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2010 01:58 PM (0K3p3)

73 Newsflash:  The Gulf of Mexico oil leak contained. 

Today in a unprecedented engineering feat coordinated with the Coast Guard, BP using UAVs lowered a giant wedding ring to the leak site and it stopped putting out.

Kan I Haz Linck?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 29, 2010 01:59 PM (0q2P7)

74 Moose,

Analogy, friend.

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 02:01 PM (Gnv1i)

75 Or could it be a metaphor?

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 02:02 PM (Gnv1i)

76 Red tape is a major PITA. Bureaucrats are worthless.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 02:02 PM (Yq+qN)

77 Moose,

Analogy, friend.

Ooops. Thought that said welding. *turns red*

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 29, 2010 02:03 PM (0q2P7)

78 I wanted to believe it, too. Alas, I re-read and it came a little too close to home

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 02:04 PM (Gnv1i)

79 Here's another for Ace's remember-in-November video collection, from Bookworm Room via Shrinkwrapped: Pete Stark on illegal immigration.

http://tinyurl.com/2bayo5n

To quote Shrink: "The disdain and arrogance are dripping off his smug visage."

Posted by: PA Cat at June 29, 2010 02:05 PM (x1fQ/)

80 What the Hell is a welding ring!!?

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 29, 2010 02:05 PM (wd0Iq)

81 the Republicans cannot just go with 'cut taxes and spending' They have got to make a concerted effort to roll back the red tape that is choking off business in this country. Lord knows it should be easy to state the case. -"look a TRILLION dollar stimulus failed to stave off this recession because it was offset by passing a health care bill that creates gobs MORE red tape as well as mandates on business and they have also had Cap and Tax hanging over their heads. --so WE are going to make cutting red tape and fighting the hostile small business environment our top priority."

Posted by: PaleRider at June 29, 2010 02:05 PM (dkExz)

82

Is there a way that Bobby Jindal can go around Obama without getting in some serious trouble?

I wonder about that too 80s.  Why can't all of these govenors tell the feds to pound sand, and take advantage of some of these alternative clean up possiblities like the hay and costner centrifuges?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 29, 2010 02:06 PM (cniXs)

83 Joanie,
WEDDING ring; not welding ring. You want to believe, I know. However, it's a joke about how wedding rings circumvent, uh, well....

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 02:07 PM (Gnv1i)

84
Pete Stark *spit*.

He needs some old school justice let loose on his worthless ass.

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 29, 2010 02:08 PM (7YJQx)

85
alternative clean up possiblities like the hay and costner centrifuges?

Not to mention our oil-eating microbes.  They are not interested in cleaning up the spill.

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 29, 2010 02:08 PM (7YJQx)

86 83 I wonder about that too 80s.  Why can't all of these govenors tell the feds to pound sand, and take advantage of some of these alternative clean up possiblities like the hay and costner centrifuges?

Plus asking BP & the other oil companies. Admiral Allen has to approve a majority of clean-up procedures before anyone can do anything, & it seems it would be much more helpful for the states to go to the experts instead of a long chain-of-command run by paper-pushers in multiple govt agencies.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 02:09 PM (Yq+qN)

87 59 If the Republicans can't win huge this fall with the economy going over the falls, the disaster of a health care plan, the war in Afghanistan going pear shaped, the gulf turning into a dead zone and the various corrupt and sleazy shit oozing out of this administration... well they suck on an epic scale.

This isn't the hill to die on.  We're keeping our power dry - just you wait!

Posted by: Michael Steele at June 29, 2010 02:10 PM (9hSKh)

88 Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 07:07 PM (Gnv1i) I know, I was just being silly. Too much sugar.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 29, 2010 02:11 PM (wd0Iq)

89 Yes, I know it's OT but FLYING CARS!!!!

http://tinyurl.com/24r8wu5


Posted by: mikey at June 29, 2010 02:11 PM (xfRfG)

90

They are not interested in cleaning up the spill

The feds aren't.

 much more helpful for the states to go to the experts instead of a long chain-of-command run by paper-pushers in multiple govt agencies.

Exactly.  It seems like the perfect thing to assert states rights on, and think of the point it would make going forward.  The fed refused to do the job they usurped, so the states took on their original constitutional duties and got the job done.
 

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 29, 2010 02:13 PM (cniXs)

91 But it's absolutely ridiculous that they have to go through several depts before using hay, building berms, using booms, etc. The locals wanted to help do some of this months ago, & they were told they had to wait. Does it really take all these depts & teams of experts to give permission to use common sense?!?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 02:14 PM (Yq+qN)

92 OT: Amazing photo of the Parthenon with lightening in the background

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 29, 2010 02:16 PM (Yq+qN)

93 Which reminds of something:

Do you know the three rings of matrimony?

Engagement Ring
Wedding Ring
Suffering

I don't hold to that necessarily. Just laying it down.

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 29, 2010 02:18 PM (Gnv1i)

94 What the Hell is a welding ring!!?


Welding ring
United States Patent 4593938
"A welding ring is made as a flat ring body, of internal diameter equal to e internal diameter of the parts to be assembled and of outer diameter in excess of the external diameter of the parts to be assembled by the mount of a peripheral edge on each face of which are regularly distributed alternately six locating reliefs which are placed in abutment against the outer diameters of the parts to be assembled. A method of welding with such a ring is also described."

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 29, 2010 02:22 PM (0q2P7)

95
hey, remember how the Sierra Club was responsible for stopping the Army Corps of Engineers from fixing the levees and they killed 1000 people during Hurricane Katrina?

Posted by: ewaster at June 29, 2010 02:24 PM (zgaoG)

96
shit, wrong thread

Posted by: ewaster at June 29, 2010 02:25 PM (Fe3ZO)

97

The presidency is one easy gig. Bet he doesn't even have to wipe his own ass.

Posted by: Lazy Mofo at June 29, 2010 02:34 PM (gbCNS)

98

If only there were a crisis for which the correct solution was to play golf... -- from t-bird.

Weird.  I started playing a lot of golf after Obama was elected to keep me away from the news and Internet.  So there is one. 

Posted by: Beagle at June 29, 2010 02:47 PM (sOtz/)

99 Barry plays more golf than Tiger Woods. Of course, Tiger plugs more holes than Barry. Maybe they should switch jobs

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2010 02:51 PM (1bonQ)

100

@11: "Thank God that while they included James Car-viles voice busting on OilBama, his image is not visible. Is he one of those people who can only be seen in a mirror?"

Who opened the Ark of the Covenant?

Posted by: Peter Griffin at June 29, 2010 02:59 PM (kmEfr)

101 The Perfect as the enemy of the Good.

Posted by: tmitsss at June 29, 2010 03:03 PM (9CEXs)

102

@59: "If the Republicans can't win huge this fall with the economy going over the falls, the disaster of a health care plan, the war in Afghanistan going pear shaped, the gulf turning into a dead zone and the various corrupt and sleazy shit oozing out of this administration... well they suck on an epic scale."

They suck on an epic scale, regardless.  The other major party just sucks worse, albeit much more successfully.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 29, 2010 03:09 PM (kmEfr)

103 1st ad - Brutal?  Not brutal enough.

 I'm glad that they included the women who said that it only took Bush/Katrina 2 days to lift the Jones act. I truly believe that he feels inconvenienced by the whole affair and really could not give a shit.

Posted by: Cheri at June 29, 2010 03:11 PM (llSaz)

104

@65: "I think they'll win big-to-huge, depending on the breaks.  The thing to concentrate on is the aftermath.  No parties, no funny hats, no boasting.  I want to see grim determination, (although a certain amount of score settling with the dems is inevitable). Teach the winners to watch their mouths  when they've got cameras shoved in their faces.  Unity, America first, cut spending & taxes.  The rest will take care of itself"

You do realize that that's the GOP you're talking about, right?

Half-assery and socialism lite is the best anyone can realistically expect.

 

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 29, 2010 03:11 PM (kmEfr)

105 93 OT: Amazing photo of the Parthenon with lightening in the background   My pimp hand is strong.  

Posted by: Zeus, Summoner of Lightening at June 29, 2010 03:19 PM (r60xu)

106 Barry plays more golf than Tiger Woods. Of course, Tiger plugs more holes than Barry. Maybe they should switch jobs

Thread winner @ 100...TheQuietMan is a perceptive man.

Posted by: Cheri at June 29, 2010 03:25 PM (llSaz)

107 The RNC needs to hire a new ad firm. That video is a mess. It totally undercuts the seriousness of the disaster. Shame on the RNC for such an insensitive and shoddy video! It turned me off.

Posted by: Jon at June 29, 2010 03:47 PM (4qate)

108 The first ad had the right approach.

Posted by: Jon at June 29, 2010 03:48 PM (4qate)

109 This is not the time for videos. This is the time when the GOP should be nailing Bambi's nutsack to the nearest DC Cherry tree. Never in my life have I seen such a bunch of worthless, filthy, lying bastards as this.

Posted by: Bugler at June 29, 2010 04:22 PM (VXBR1)

110

I think it's time to drag out the ol' tin foil hat because I think I'm going nuts.

I don't know, but maybe someone here does: Which energy company is it that is most heavily invested in "green" technology? Is it possible that BP will benefit from a turn to "greener" pasteurs?

Seriously.

Straight incompetence can't possibly be responsible be responsible for, first, the spill, and now, the devastation that has followed unchecked.

Posted by: jmflynny at June 29, 2010 04:37 PM (NHK5s)

111 You know what they need down there? Some lawyers. Q: What do you have when you plug a thousand lawyers into a 5000 ft hole in the sea? A: A good start.

Posted by: cheshirecat at June 29, 2010 05:34 PM (DqbE1)

112

If only there were a crisis for which the correct solution was to play golf... -- from t-bird.

"Obama played golf again today in hopes of trying to get Tiger Woods to concentrate on the game again."

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 29, 2010 06:50 PM (EIWgh)

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