August 31, 2010

Another Day, Another Poll Showing 70% Of Americans Are Racist, Islamophobes
— DrewM

Given that the polling is pretty consistent on this issue, shouldn't the MFM start calling Obama, Bloomberg and other supporters of the Ground Zero Victory mosque "fringe elements" and "a tiny minority"?

A poll released Tuesday found 71 percent of New Yorkers want the developers of an Islamic center and mosque near ground zero to voluntarily move the project.

The Quinnipiac University poll finds the same percentage of New Yorkers want Attorney General Andrew Cuomo to investigate sources of funding for the project in lower Manhattan.

Cuomo, a Democrat running for governor, has said little about the issue. He says it's protected by the Constitution, although he will investigate if concerns are found.

The poll finds 53 percent of registered voters feel the Muslim developers shouldn't be allowed to build a couple blocks from ground zero. Yet about the same share says they have a right to.

Obviously, just because 70% of people think something doesn't mean they are right. Still, you'd think the fringe minority element would take a moment to reflect and consider why they are so far outside the American mainstream. They never do because in this case the 'wackos' are the self anointed arbiters of "right thinking" and morality. Sure less than 30% agree with them but as long as it's the right 30% and they are in it together, then they are the holders of wisdom and the masses just don't get it.

Funny how 20% who think Obama is a Muslim* shows a dangerous rise in the number of lunatics in the country but 29%? Oh, well, that's an important sector of the American public who must be listened to and celebrated.

Two strange stories that are related enough:

The FBI actually has to defend itself from CAIR types for having the temerity to invite Robert Spencer to speak to a terrorism task force.

Via Michelle Malkin, The US State Department is buying thousands of copies of Ground Zero mosque imam Feisal Abdul Rauf's book.


*Just to be clear, no, I don't think Obama is a Muslim.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:33 AM | Comments (76)
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1

I think he is a scientologist

 

Posted by: MacDaddyZion at August 31, 2010 06:33 AM (GvYeG)

2 first

Posted by: MacDaddyZion at August 31, 2010 06:33 AM (GvYeG)

3 I don't think Obama is a Muslim. The only thing Obama worships is himself.

Posted by: Oregon Is Dumber Than Dirt at August 31, 2010 06:34 AM (Hu/Da)

4 and second

Posted by: MacDaddyZion at August 31, 2010 06:34 AM (GvYeG)

5
Obviously In fairness, just because 70% of people think something doesn't mean they are right.

ah, that's better

Posted by: i got a girl in kalamazoo...zoo...zoo...zoo at August 31, 2010 06:35 AM (uFokq)

6
Obama is bitterly clinging to the plans for the "Victory Mosque."

Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2010 06:35 AM (Chg7a)

7

Drew, I think you meant they are buying thousands of copies of his book.

If they are buying thousands of copies of him, well......damn.

Posted by: ATaLien at August 31, 2010 06:36 AM (SkRi5)

8 The US State Department is buying thousands of copies of Ground Zero mosque imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. They're cloning him!?

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 31, 2010 06:36 AM (eyHnk)

9

Via Michelle Malkin, The US State Department is buying thousands of copies  of Ground Zero mosque imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.

If the State Department can't be trusted with one imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, imagine what it will do with an army of him.

Posted by: Cicero at August 31, 2010 06:37 AM (0pBLV)

10 the clone wars ....

Posted by: MacDaddyZion at August 31, 2010 06:37 AM (GvYeG)

11

I wonder what the Venn diagram would look like on the percentage who support the hamasque and those who think Obama's a Muslim.  And those who strap cell phones to Pepto-Bismol bottles in their luggage. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 31, 2010 06:39 AM (8lCJT)

12 Just to be clear, no, I don't think Obama is a Muslim.

No.  Obama loves all of America's enemies regardless of their religion.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2010 06:39 AM (xxgag)

13 OT

Stolen from HA.  Mosque owner a thug.

http://tinyurl.com/3acuw9m

Posted by: Kemp at August 31, 2010 06:40 AM (vSiVD)

14

3 The only thing Obama worships is himself.

When his wife isn't within her (chiseled) arms reach, then he does.

Posted by: Todd Bridges, first to go bad, last to go down at August 31, 2010 06:40 AM (qL20/)

15
It's in bad taste.  71% understand this basic fact.
It's disrespectful to the dead.  71% understand this.

If the Islamists cared at all about tolerance, they would choose, out of respect and tolerance, to locate the Mosque elsewhere.

Those shouting "you're all Xenophobic hate filled bigots and Islamophobes" will never understand.  To be clear, they are the 29%.


In Britain, upwards of 50% of all Mosques have been taken over by radical sects of Islam.  Curious.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 31, 2010 06:40 AM (0fzsA)

16 *Just to be clear, no, I don't think Obama is a Muslim.

No, he's just a douche.

Posted by: TC at August 31, 2010 06:40 AM (DYJjQ)

17 29% of Imaams agree Obama sucks cock.

Posted by: Mr Pink at August 31, 2010 06:42 AM (lsJMg)

18 Newsweek reports that support among Americans for building a msoque at Ground Zero is enthusiastic and overwhelming.

Posted by: Cicero at August 31, 2010 06:42 AM (0pBLV)

19 Only the State Department is buying the book? I'm surprized that Holder doesn't have everyone at the DoJ buy it and read it as an instruction manual

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 31, 2010 06:43 AM (1Jaio)

20 52% in a presidential election = clear mandate to transform the country
71% opposition to a pet project = no big deal, now shut up, you racist

Posted by: Bomber at August 31, 2010 06:43 AM (qzoN5)

21 In other news, Newsweek reports that the Obama Administration has pulled off an economic miracle and happy days are here again.

Posted by: Cicero at August 31, 2010 06:43 AM (0pBLV)

22 iMom Obama

Posted by: ingenus at August 31, 2010 06:44 AM (+sBB4)

23 I know some fairly liberal, westernized Muslims -- who consider Obama a Muslim. Not a practicing Muslim, but one by birth, who should be brought back to the "faith". Personally, I think he is a socialist New Man, a perfect atheist - who uses religion as tool when needed.

Posted by: Jean at August 31, 2010 06:44 AM (L2+HZ)

24 I think Obama goes to the Church of Cocksuckers. Wait until you see what they offer for sacrement!

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at August 31, 2010 06:45 AM (YVZlY)

25

The Quinnipiac University poll finds the same percentage of New Yorkers want Attorney General Andrew Cuomo to investigate sources of funding for the project in lower Manhattan.

They'll still be voting for this schmuck even if he doesn't.  Live boy, dead girl, he's our next governor. 

Besides, he has better things to do with his time, like making sure to attend Charles Rangel's birthday celebration.

Posted by: La Mauvaise New Yorkaise at August 31, 2010 06:46 AM (XrwvT)

26 yes we can!

Posted by: MacDaddyZion at August 31, 2010 06:47 AM (GvYeG)

27 Via Michelle Malkin, The US State Department is buying thousands of copies of Ground Zero mosque imam Feisal Abdul Rauf's book.

Of course they did.  They're the enemy.  I don't know how much clearer it can be.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 31, 2010 06:49 AM (5aa4z)

28
Cowardly Democrats say nothing but "It's constitutional".  OK.
Sure, it's constitutional to build a victory mosque.  Congratulations.  Islam is using our own freedoms against us.  The same freedoms that do not exist in the world of Islam. 

It's unnecessarily provocative, it sends an encouraging message to the radical Islamic world, it's insulting and disrespectful to the 9/11 dead, and 71% of the nation understand this perfectly. 

Yeah, sure, it's "legal", but that doesn't make it right.  It gives bad taste a whole new meaning.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 31, 2010 06:49 AM (0fzsA)

29 Let's see, at $243.00 a book, that should just about pay off that tax bill.

Posted by: Imam Dougie Rauf al-Hamas at August 31, 2010 06:50 AM (UvJqU)

30 You are all bigots! Tools of Pam Gellar and never before heard of European neo nazi groups! Teabaggers!

Posted by: Charles Johnson's tiny undropped scrotum at August 31, 2010 06:50 AM (lsJMg)

31 Another fun piece that shows who Osama Obama is "looking out for:"

http://bit.ly/bQC7WW

What I'd like to know is this: How much America-hating, terrorist-pimping bullshit are we going to take before calls for the Traitor-in-Chief's impeachment drown out both the hosannas of his acolytes and the "let's be moderate and realistic and wait until '12" whining of wimpy Repubs?

Will we wait until the regime's goals are met and we are a defenseless, broke and subservient clone of Kenya?

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2010 06:51 AM (Ulu3i)

32 when did charles johnson lose his mind?

Posted by: MacDaddyZion at August 31, 2010 06:51 AM (GvYeG)

33 How is Islam a race??

Posted by: dagny at August 31, 2010 06:52 AM (f+r1n)

34 Obama is moving forward on this very issue. Right now.... BREAKING!!! Bosnian Woman Appointed By President Obama To Be Ground Zero Mosque Czar

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2010 06:53 AM (+kzvp)

35 33 It was a Tuesday. They didn't have any Mcnuggets.

Posted by: Charles Johnson's tiny undropped scrotum at August 31, 2010 06:54 AM (lsJMg)

36 What I want to know is, are umbrellas halal?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 31, 2010 06:55 AM (AZGON)

37

I once had the misfortune of attending a NYC city council meeting where hearings were being held for outdoor permits for restaurants.  It was mind-blowing.  I recall these two young Irish guys with a cafe trying to get 5 outdoor tables.  Aligned against them were a passel of neighborhood "groups," a screaming banshee who had some affiliation with the storefront church next door railing against the corruption of the neighborhood's youth by being witness to the nefarious evils of open-air imbibing, people screaming at the top of their lungs that the cafe's delivery guy had leaned his bike against their fence.  I've probably never seen anything like it.  The two Irish dudes were dumbfounded, absolutely shell-shocked.

I think back to that event, and realize that this mosque probably has gotten less governmental scrutiny than two guys wanting to serve Guinness on the sidewalk.

 

Posted by: La Mauvaise New Yorkaise at August 31, 2010 06:57 AM (XrwvT)

38 Can I ask a slightly on/off topic question here... what the fuck with New York's Republican party? Seriously...what the fuck? I know Pataki and Giuliani both waffled and stayed out of the Senate race against Gilly... but NOBODY could get the party to consolidate around a candidate, make the calls to the Con party and the TEA groups to get them to rally around them? Gilly is horrendously vulnerable right now but there is a total balkanization of the NY GOP...

Posted by: CAC at August 31, 2010 06:59 AM (lV4Fs)

39 "53 percent of registered voters feel the Muslim developers shouldn't be allowed to build a couple blocks from ground zero. Yet about the same share [i.e., 53%?] says they have a right to." 47% think they should be allowed to build, but 53% say they have a right to. Ergo, ca. 6% consciously want to violate Muslim rights.

Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at August 31, 2010 06:59 AM (g9neE)

40 The British press: doing the job Americans won't do.

http://tinyurl.com/25v5npr

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 31, 2010 07:03 AM (5aa4z)

41 Nothing about this Goddamn mosque is on the up and up. They don't own all the property, they owe back taxes and fines, and they are using the publicity of overwhelming opposition to raise money from our enemies abroad. How in the fuck do they have a "right" to build this?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 31, 2010 07:06 AM (mHQ7T)

42 The British press: doing the job Americans won't do.

Mmmmm Page 3 girls.  Oh.  Wait.  You mean actual journalism.  That too.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 31, 2010 07:06 AM (eRjGt)

43 Ergo, ca. 6% consciously want to violate Muslim rights.

Jefafa notsoquick, most likely 6% chose not to give their opinion.

Posted by: The 8ball says try again at August 31, 2010 07:06 AM (UvJqU)

44 "I think back to that event, and realize that this mosque probably has gotten less governmental scrutiny than two guys wanting to serve Guinness on the sidewalk." Oh, GZM got plenty of government scrutiny. All to make sure it goes up.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 31, 2010 07:07 AM (AZGON)

45
The Left are for illegal immigration and against legal immigration.

Say it over and over an over.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 31, 2010 07:07 AM (0fzsA)

46 yeah, when it comes to lib's minds, 70% support for something makes it controversial.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 31, 2010 07:07 AM (QxSug)

47 I rent my apartment and owe back rent and court fees. How in the fuck do I have the "right" to tear down my apartment and build a church with a swimming pool and a basketball court?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 31, 2010 07:08 AM (mHQ7T)

48 This is one of the best sources of info regarding Cordoba Project mosque that I have seen.  It says that their website has been sanitized to hide info.  I have a screen capture from Aug 15, and sure enough it went down the memory hole.  So I went to Google and also Bing to see the cache version.  It is gone from their servers too.  If anybody is interested, I have uploaded the pdf of my screen capture here.  The pdf shows that Imam Rauf was the convened and chaired the very first meeting of Cordoba Project in August 2006 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. In my opinion, Imam Rauf is a VERY well connected individual who travels amongst the highest levels of governments and NGO's.  He is no ordinary clergy-person. He has the blessing of our president, the UN, Council for Foreign Relations, international bankers, and the Umma.  It is also my opinion that Mayor Bloomberg wants access if now outright control of the ground floor of Sharia compliant banking system and petrodollars.  He didn't purchase his election for $30 million dollars of his own money for nothing.  As for me, I care not if Obama is Muslim. That is speculation.  I like facts, and one fact is our president is backing this project 100% against the wishes of most US citizens.  For him, it's all about the money and power.  It's the Chicago way.

Posted by: political correctness czar at August 31, 2010 07:10 AM (UPNlB)

49 I rent my apartment and owe back rent and court fees. How in the fuck do I have the "right" to tear down my apartment and build a church with a swimming pool and a basketball court? Change your name to "Al-Tatu Daplain," open an Islamic outreach center, and you're platinum.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 31, 2010 07:11 AM (AZGON)

50 Mmmmm Page 3 girls.  Oh.  Wait.  You mean actual journalism.  That too.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 31, 2010 12:06 PM

The Telegraph doesn't have Page Three girls! Why, oh why, did you get my hopes up for nothing, atc?

Thank goodness for the Sun and News of the World!

Goodness has nothing to do with it IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2010 07:11 AM (Ulu3i)

51 Maybe I'll just sublet my apartment to Al Qaeda, and they can hold bomb making cooking classes there, and that's my "right" to practice my "religion."

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 31, 2010 07:12 AM (mHQ7T)

52
Ergo, ca. 6% consciously want to violate Muslim rights.



In this case, fuck Muslim rights. Whatever moral standing Muslims had in this country was abdicated when their co-religionists slaughtered 3000 Americans and "moderate" Muslims in the US either cheered or whined incessantly about phantom "islamophobia" while ignoring the carnage.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2010 07:13 AM (P9+0W)

53 Thank goodness for the Sun and News of the World!

Seriously.  I love the Sun. 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 31, 2010 07:14 AM (eRjGt)

54 i want to violate muslim's rights just like we wanted to violate the rights of King George, the CSA, socialists, nazis, and Baathists.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 31, 2010 07:16 AM (QxSug)

55 It is also my opinion that Mayor Bloomberg wants access if now outright control of the ground floor of Sharia compliant banking system and petrodollars.

And how convenient for Bloomberg LLC,  "a premier site for updated business news and financial information," if he is the banker to the jihad. I bet sharia has no problem with insider trading.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 31, 2010 07:17 AM (mHQ7T)

56 So my understanding is that the majority of people who oppose the mosque understand that the developers have the right to build there, but wish they wouldn't out of respect.

Existentially, this is the exact position Obama has (though it took him 3 speeches to clarify it).  So why are all of us Islamaphobes, but Howard Dean, Harry Reid, and the lightworker himself getting a pass on this?

Posted by: taylork at August 31, 2010 07:17 AM (0Hn5w)

57 Seriously.  I love the Sun. 
Posted by: alexthechick at August 31, 2010 12:14 PM

The Sun is #1 for boobies and kittehs. What's not to love?

And their headline writers are the best. Anywhere.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2010 07:17 AM (Ulu3i)

58 there is a total balkanization of the NY GOP...

Our new chair is Ed Cox, Naderite and former son-in-law to Richard Nixxon.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 31, 2010 07:19 AM (mHQ7T)

59 49

That's from Breitbart.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 31, 2010 07:21 AM (mHQ7T)

60 I have a question for which I haven't found a direct answer: Is this Rauf clown a legal American citizen? I know he has married American women and has been here for quite a while, but haven't seen anything about him being naturalized.

Not that it matters. He can always claim the Auntie Zeituni exemption.

'Rons? 'Ronettes? Anyone?

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2010 07:22 AM (Ulu3i)

61 I thought about it, and realized perhaps some people may not be familiar with sharebee and may not "like" it.  I will post a direct link to rapidshare instead.  I use sharebee when working on time sensitive projects with clients who need info/links NOW.  This alternate strategy was necessitated when clients are screaming on the phone I cannot download it, it won't let me, etc. directly from our company server (which is not sharebee based).

Posted by: political correctness czar at August 31, 2010 07:26 AM (UPNlB)

62 It is also my opinion that Mayor Bloomberg wants access if not outright control of the ground floor of Sharia compliant banking system and petrodollars. Oh sweet Jeebus in a jerkin. You're absolutely right. Pure venality. I hadn't thought of that angle. I guess this falls under "capitalists selling rope to communists to string up the capitalists."

Posted by: George Orwell at August 31, 2010 07:34 AM (AZGON)

63 I bet sharia has no problem with insider trading. Come again?

Posted by: Baksheesh at August 31, 2010 07:34 AM (AZGON)

64 Sorry for being such a link whore, but here is more info about Bloomberg and his plans.

Posted by: political correctness czar at August 31, 2010 07:38 AM (UPNlB)

65 He may not be a Moslem, but he's certainly a Shitite.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 31, 2010 07:56 AM (3phFo)

66 "Obviously, just because 70% of people think something doesn't mean they are right."

Sure it does.  Right and wrong are determined by society.  Murder isn't wrong just because it's against the law.  It's wrong because everyone (except murderers) thinks it's wrong.

Posted by: slug at August 31, 2010 08:30 AM (n8Nln)

67

slug, you missed a step or two. "Everyone Except Murderers" hold as an axiom that they deserve to live. It follows from the self-preservation principle that human life is sacred. The prohibition against murder follows from that.

If 70% of the population suddenly decides that human life isn't worth bothering with, then congratulations - you have entered Zombieland.

Posted by: Zimriel at August 31, 2010 08:36 AM (9Sbz+)

68 55 i want to violate muslim's rights just like we wanted to violate the rights of King George, the CSA, socialists, nazis, and Baathists.

Leave us out this Yankee.

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