February 27, 2014

The Rapidly-Declining Prospects for Democrats in the U.S. Senate
— CAC

Warning- wide margins. The Changing Senate Picture.png

At top, the forecast from December as published over at The Federalist. At bottom, the picture as things stand today.

The news out of Colorado just piled onto the Democrats' existing problems. Everyone expected that the Republicans would target the seats in the seven states that voted for Romney: Montana, South Dakota, Arkansas, West Virginia, North Carolina, Louisiana and Alaska. They are, and they outright lead in 6 out of the 7 (Alaska, the sole exception, is likely the artifact of sparse polling). Democrats' chances of retaining the chamber remained over 50/50 when the map was limited to just that- Republicans would need to sweep 6 out of 7 targets, and their recent track record of actual wins versus contested races didn't inspire much confidence in that.

But now, not only is the GOP favored in the initial round of states, they are (at least for now) in the driver's seat in Michigan, making a big, serious play for Colorado, and depending on how they sort things out, are at least semi-serious about New Hampshire and Iowa. The larger the map grows, the tougher it is for the Democrats to keep the Senate.

There comes a point, really, where triage will begin if this map holds or even worsens. It would begin in the states even the Democrats admit are becoming tough holds: West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota. They will try to protect as many incumbents as possible, but if any start approaching Blanche Lincoln territory, it is doubtful the Democrats will pour good money in after bad.

Triaging races would likely do more harm than good: every conceded race brings the Republicans a seat closer to a majority. Firewalls work when the map remains small. This is why what happened yesterday is so important- the shake up in the GOP side for Udall's seat makes that race a top priority, adding to an ever-growing list of legitimate targets. An enemy with a wound can slink off. One with a half-dozen or more will be dead on the field barring a dramatic rescue.

The one-two punch of vulnerable incumbents and numerous vacancies is something the Republicans are familiar with: in 2006 and 2008, they were left defending incumbents in places like Rhode Island, Oregon, Minnesota; and desperately trying to save vacated seats in then-swing states like Colorado, New Mexico, and Virginia. This year has the potential to equal that two-cycle collapse in one disastrous election.

Of course, the election is still eight months out. That's plenty of time for the GOP to destroy itself, or for the economy to spontaneously roar back to life, or for President Obama to send fifty-pound packages of bacon to every household in America. But right now, things look bad for the Democrats, and they have the potential to get much, much worse.

Posted by: CAC at 04:09 PM | Comments (356)
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1 Behold the stompening

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at February 27, 2014 03:31 PM (R+XDI)

2 My God, it's full of color.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 27, 2014 03:32 PM (GrtrJ)

3 post go bye-bye?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 27, 2014 03:33 PM (V70Uh)

4 No map.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 27, 2014 03:33 PM (g4TxM)

5 Hagan getting creamed in NC.

Posted by: NCwoof at February 27, 2014 03:34 PM (aUQgu)

6 I love it when you say wide margins, CAC.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 27, 2014 04:14 PM (oMKp3)

7 I still trust the Republicans to blow this.

Posted by: dick cheese at February 27, 2014 04:15 PM (QupBk)

8 I am not a big fan of Tillis (sorry, Nip), but I hope he lands on Hagan with both feet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 04:16 PM (aDwsi)

9 Montana and South Dakota must go uber Red.

Also, can I come up yet? It's cold and dark down here and there are wolves outside...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 04:16 PM (vHRtU)

10 Sigh.  No plaid.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 04:16 PM (Gk3SS)

11 Hagan getting creamed in NC. Posted by: NCwoof ---------------- Too soon, and not creamed hard enough.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 04:16 PM (aDwsi)

12 Good, but call me in October.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:17 PM (t3UFN)

13 >>>At top, the forecast from December as published over at The Federalist.<<<




Hey, how did he get off the chain and out the basement???

Posted by: The Federalist at February 27, 2014 04:17 PM (UIxS+)

14 Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 09:16 PM (vHRtU) I vote yes, but don't bring that glow in the dark thing with you.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 27, 2014 04:17 PM (oMKp3)

15 I'm almost to the point of assuming the republicans control the senate. The question will become what are the odds they can get to 60?

Posted by: Joe at February 27, 2014 04:17 PM (v6ng1)

16 You're such a pollyanna, man.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 04:17 PM (tyz5J)

17 I'm taking the wide view here..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 04:17 PM (aDwsi)

18 Aw hell, it's math AND maps!

Posted by: Joey the Biden at February 27, 2014 04:17 PM (/cUUk)

19 CBC News Alerts ‏@CBCAlerts Armed men seize airport in #Ukraine's Crimea: report. Witnesses tell Interfax news agency 50 men surrounded terminal in city of Simferopol.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 04:17 PM (ZPrif)

20 Stop giving me a boner CAC.

Posted by: dogfish at February 27, 2014 04:18 PM (nsOJa)

21
Sigh. No plaid.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 09:16 PM (Gk3SS)









Word. I'm profoundly disappointed in the Meatball.

NO PLAID, NO PEACE!

NO PLAID, NO PEACE!

NO PLAID, NO PEACE!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 27, 2014 04:18 PM (aYjRw)

22 At top, the forecast from December as

So the top is 2013?

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 27, 2014 04:18 PM (XKKNz)

23 I would pay very good money to see Franken get the boot. Or be impaled on a burning oak spit, slowly, 1" per hour, while his face was being chewed off by rabid weasels.

I'm not picky,either would do.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 04:18 PM (vHRtU)

24 Well, Kansas is all eff'ed up as normal. We will have a bruising primary for Pat Roberts seat while the fairly competent D quietly collects money and beats up on both of them. Remember, we elected Dennis Moore repeatedly... Kansas has three parties, hard core conservatives, squishy conservatives and democrats.

Posted by: JamesT at February 27, 2014 04:18 PM (blYjC)

25 I see 57 states.

Posted by: Obummerator the Enumerator at February 27, 2014 04:18 PM (/cUUk)

26 Kinda reminds me of the guy who used to post bold, multicolored weather reports.

Posted by: A Nomad of the Time Streams at February 27, 2014 04:18 PM (J6JcG)

27 Yes but other than not being Democrats, why are people gonna vote for Republicans this November?

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 04:19 PM (tyz5J)

28 I'm pretty seriously considering throwing my hat in the ring for the seat from Transalpine Gaul.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2014 04:20 PM (C6Yy1)

29

OK.  Maybe.  And then, with a gloriously GOP Senate, and the House ....... what will they do?

 

Remember - they'll only have one third of govt.  (As if, under our system, the judicial branch is supposed to be equated with legislative and executive in terms of power to take action affirmatively and independently - itself a hilarious example of GOP arrogance and contempt for their own voters)

 

So, meh.

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 04:20 PM (afQnV)

30 26 Kinda reminds me of the guy who used to post bold, multicolored weather reports. Ed the Weather Guy?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 27, 2014 04:20 PM (oMKp3)

31 Ooh, pretty  colors!
I like the blue-->purple for Colorado!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 04:20 PM (aq/zi)

32 I demand 3-D with these wide margins and these maps.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 27, 2014 04:21 PM (/cUUk)

33 What's that Udall/Udall shit for CO and NM?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 27, 2014 04:21 PM (AQTz3)

34 And they thought I had a wide stance

Posted by: Larry Craig at February 27, 2014 04:22 PM (Q6pxP)

35 If I had Marty Feldman's eyes, I could see this better.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 04:22 PM (4Mv1T)

36 Eight months is a LONG time. CAC, a request for color blind morons, that would be 9% of the male population. I can not see some of the colors, aka what I guess is purple? Would you insert a probability into the state maps? Oh, and Hagan is toast unless the GOP Tea Party assholes don't vote. Turns out their favorite just got found guilty of stock fraud.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 04:23 PM (0FSuD)

37 How screwed up is Chicago (not Illinois) to keep sending that hump Durbin back?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2014 04:23 PM (C6Yy1)

38 35 "Damn your eyes!' "Too late, see?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 04:23 PM (aDwsi)

39 My hatred for Dick Durbin is boundless.

Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 27, 2014 04:24 PM (cgH9o)

40 >>How screwed up is Chicago (not Illinois) to keep sending that hump Durbin back?

We just can't help ourselves!

Posted by: The Voting Dead & "Found" Ballots at February 27, 2014 04:24 PM (aq/zi)

41 "And in other political news today, AG Eric Holder was at the hospital today. While it was officially reported as a chest pain and dizzy episode, this reporter has learned that was just a cover story, and that Holder was in fact there to be treated for the tertiary syphillis he was infected with while partying with tranny hookers in Haiti. Film at 11."

Posted by: Tom Brokedick at February 27, 2014 04:25 PM (vHRtU)

42 I gotta tell ya, I'm fucking scared of the Republicans as well. The 2003-2005 spending spree is seared into my mind as the catalyst for the Dog Eater's spending spree. This time the Republicans are after amnesty, and they will fucking push it the same way as the Dems pushed Obamacare.

Posted by: dogfish at February 27, 2014 04:25 PM (nsOJa)

43 From your lips to God's ears, CAC. Not that I think a GOP House and Senate will doing anything good, but an Unchecked Obama is ruining this country. At least a GOP congress could pass some poison-pill bills that Barky would have to either veto or sign while bitching about how his hands are tied and he wishes we were China.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at February 27, 2014 04:25 PM (niuxr)

44 #28 Reminds me of the time when there were various little kingdoms and kinglets in Britain during the early Dark Ages.

Posted by: The King of Wessex at February 27, 2014 04:25 PM (/cUUk)

45 Under obama, we have lost or are in the process of losing: Egypt The Gulf States North Africa The Ukraine Europe doesn't trust us Brazil Hey anyone seen Taiwan lately? Iran going Nuclear and no Sanctions Iraq And coming soon we flee in the night from Afghan. One hell of a record to run on?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:25 PM (t3UFN)

46 All I can see is that it's likely Al Franken is going to be reelected.  That alone confirms, we are  a nation of clowns.  And not the good kind. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 04:26 PM (BeSEI)

47 quick, quote Shakespeare' s version of asking for visual evidence!

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 04:26 PM (tyz5J)

48 Holder was in fact there to be treated for the tertiary syphillis he was infected with while partying with tranny hookers in Haiti. Film at 11." Fuck, Val, call my doctor.

Posted by: Moochie at February 27, 2014 04:26 PM (0FSuD)

49 I mean, how has downstate Illinois not risen up and gone all Mrs. O'Leary's Bovine Reprise?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2014 04:27 PM (C6Yy1)

50 35 "If I had Marty Feldman's eyes, I could see this better." Posted by: Tobacco Road That's Eyegore, not Eegore.

Posted by: Young Frankenstein at February 27, 2014 04:27 PM (/cUUk)

51 Yes. I think it was Ed somethingorother.

Posted by: A Nomad of the Time Streams at February 27, 2014 04:27 PM (J6JcG)

52 Is that big dark gap between the Udall's and Durbin the double black hole in M87? This is the Spaced Out Challenge thread, right?

Posted by: Coop at February 27, 2014 04:28 PM (cIzT9)

53 37 I grew up there. You have no idea how much worse it is than you might think there. Durbin is only the tip.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 04:28 PM (ojnk6)

54 Oh, and Hagan is toast unless the GOP Tea Party assholes don't vote. Turns out their favorite just got found guilty of stock fraud. Posted by: Nip --------------------- I don't suppose you are ever going to stop saying that, eh? Whether it is true or not.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 04:28 PM (aDwsi)

55

I want Mark Warner to join that weasel Jim Moran in retirement.

Like the oilmen and real estate developers say in Texas, please God, give me one more boom and I promise not to piss it away.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at February 27, 2014 04:28 PM (KjBTQ)

56 >>Under obama, we have lost or are in the process of losing...

And also: actively isolating and betraying Israel.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 04:29 PM (aq/zi)

57 Driver roll up the partition please/ I don't need you seeing Yonce on her knees ... 
Oh he so horny, yeah he want to fuck
He popped all my buttons, and he ripped my blouse 
He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown 

I just wanna be the girl you like, the girl you like

- Obama daughter's role model

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 04:29 PM (vHRtU)

58 Zod is aware of the Republican interest in winning Virginia's Senate seat. Zod is also good at math, and knows that Richmond, Tidewater, and especially Northern Virginia ethnic populations have grown, while the I-81 population has declined. Ed Gillespie will lose. Gun-haters, homosexualists, parasites--Zod commands you to rejoice!

Posted by: General Zod at February 27, 2014 04:29 PM (EjaYN)

59 27 Yes but other than not being Democrats, why are people gonna vote for Republicans this November? Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 09:19 PM (tyz5J) ------------------------ Because it makes leftists very unhappy whenever a Dem loses. That's enough of a reason for me. It ain't much but I'll take it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 04:30 PM (dfYL9)

60 Walk this way, http://tinyurl.com/k47srpt

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 04:30 PM (0FSuD)

61 Sure victory in North Carolina: Jesse Helms. Rested and ready. Really rested.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2014 04:31 PM (C6Yy1)

62
CAC, a request for color blind morons, that would be 9% of the male population.

I can not see some of the colors, aka what I guess is purple? Would you insert a probability into the state maps?












You see, this is the perfect argument for plaid maps. Folks who have trouble seeing colors can key off of patterns. ADA blog compliance, y'know.

It's totes not about reminding The Horde about gawdawful plaid shorts and trying to get a cob to jump like my pet monkey on a string. Why, the idea is simply preposterous, and I'm insulted that someone might think that was my intent.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 27, 2014 04:31 PM (aYjRw)

63 Nip-

Does it ever occur to you that you don't have the only NC opinion on this blog?

You are GOP establishment. Not held in high regard, if you haven't noticed.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 04:31 PM (4Mv1T)

64 O/T  I thought Mr. Clean was black, with a ring in his ear.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 27, 2014 04:31 PM (V70Uh)

65 54 Oh, and Hagan is toast unless the GOP Tea Party assholes don't vote. Turns out their favorite just got found guilty of stock fraud. Posted by: Nip --------------------- I don't suppose you are ever going to stop saying that, eh? Whether it is true or not. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 09:28 PM (aDwsi) No, it's true. Brannon was found guilty of STEALING $250,000 from his former classmate in med school. I hope everyone turns out, but a lot of my tea party buddies seem mighty butt hurt and are acting like they are going to stay home.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 04:33 PM (0FSuD)

66 Yes but other than not being Democrats, why are people gonna vote for Republicans this November? Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 09:19 PM (tyz5J) ---- Well obamacare is actually starting to hurt "normal" Americans where it counts: In the Pocketbook and their Health Care. That is something and not to be sneezed at. The if we can piggy back how the World is collapsing around us, we got a chance.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:33 PM (t3UFN)

67 64. You're thinking of Sammy Davis Jr. Or perhaps Yul Brynner.  

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at February 27, 2014 04:33 PM (KjBTQ)

68 Mr. Clean is actually an ethnic fluid gender fluid transitional with a Prince Albert in... it's... yoo-hoo.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 04:33 PM (vHRtU)

69 This business with Corey Gardner announcing a run for Udall's seat and Ken Buck dropping out to run for Gardner's now-open seat instead is such a smart move, I can't imagine the state GOP having anything to do with it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 04:33 PM (/96QU)

70 I hate to say this but BurtTC is right in comment 47. I was in Wisconsin while he was campaigning, drew a big crowd in the cities and universities, got the FSA all riled up.

Posted by: Picric at February 27, 2014 04:34 PM (QnQ+g)

71

Nevergiveup, gonna have to correct your list.

 

Egypt's tired quasi-dynastic regime ran out of steam, Bambi handled that the worst possible way of course, but it ain't "lost"

 

Gulf States ain't lost, they're waiting as breathlessly as many here for the restoration of a real govt. in the US

 

North Africa - ????

 

Ukraine - ain't ours to "lose"

 

F**k Europe (western - Bambi goat-f**ked Poland and Czech Rep)

 

F**k Brazil - daquele pais nem me fale

 

Taiwan, Iran - ding ding ding

 

Iraq - Dubya fumbled the ending there, of course these idiots completely screwed it up - but the American people are too ignorant and lazy to care (this includes many who loathe Bambi)

 

Afghanistan - complicated but Bambi has pursued an astonishingly stupid approach, of course (and apparently that Beltway mediocrity Gates thought it was wonderful)

 

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 04:34 PM (afQnV)

72 65 Investors lost money in a Business investment. Not the same thing as theft, Karl Rove. Sell this at Kos, not here.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 04:34 PM (ojnk6)

73 A geographically-challenged airport security agent nearly turned away a woman with a valid Washington, DC identification card — because she had no clue where the District was, or that it’s just as legit as a state. Transportation Security Administration officer in Phoenix took a look at her driver’s license — marked “District of Columbia” — and threatened not to take it, The Washington Post reported. “I don’t know if we can accept these. Do you have a US passport?” the agent said, No doubt an obama voter?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:35 PM (t3UFN)

74 "Give me the occular proof." Othello Act 3, scene 3

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 04:35 PM (tyz5J)

75 I wish all posts had this much room from side to side. Pixels are free, Ace!

Posted by: sithkhan at February 27, 2014 04:35 PM (qWAB9)

76 What, no polka dots or stripes?

Posted by: Jim Scrummy at February 27, 2014 04:36 PM (Yd7xQ)

77 At least a GOP congress could pass some poison-pill bills that Barky would have to either veto or sign while bitching about how his hands are tied and he wishes we were China. Don't count on it.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 27, 2014 04:36 PM (AQTz3)

78

" but a lot of my tea party buddies "

 

Bet you a black friend as well.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at February 27, 2014 04:36 PM (VrVBw)

79 Nip - Ok...., here's what I'm gonna do. We'll both post $5,000 with an escrow agent (you choose, but must be reputable). Then, if you can present any published evidence that Greg Brannon was 'convicted for stock fraud', then the money is yours. If not, it's mine. Want to do it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 04:37 PM (aDwsi)

80 wow, it's so roomy in here.  {stretches}  CAC, so cool you are back in the hunt on this stuff.  And, yeah, it would be such a fuckin' surprise if the R's found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, sticking with what they do best. 

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 04:38 PM (8lmkt)

81 Some one fix the blog. TR and Mike. I know you all will vote, but I am having a running battle with former "good Republicans" that have adopted the burn it down program. It's either their way or the highway and now they have no candidate. We are not going to elect a Baptist preacher, sorry. He's a nice guy, can not win general election, BUT I will vote for him if he wins the primary.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 04:38 PM (0FSuD)

82 79 Awesome.....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 04:38 PM (ojnk6)

83 If Shakespeare were alive today, he'd be tv's Andy Levy.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 04:38 PM (tyz5J)

84 CAC, a request for color blind morons, that would be 9% of the male population. I can not see some of the colors, aka what I guess is purple? Would you insert a probability into the state maps? Oh, and Hagan is toast unless the GOP Tea Party assholes don't vote. Turns out their favorite just got found guilty of stock fraud. Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 09:23 PM (0FSuD) Currently I have MT & WV as likely R, SD & AR as moderately R, LA,NC,MI as lean R, AK+CO as tossups, IA+NH as lean D holds, MN, OR, VA as moderately D holds, and VA as likely D hold.

Posted by: CAC at February 27, 2014 04:38 PM (w4IDR)

85 That "warning- wide margins" notice, uh, what precautions should one take? I suddenly feel so exposed and vulnerable.

Posted by: marginphobe at February 27, 2014 04:39 PM (/cUUk)

86 oh, and Nevergiveup, you noted that the foreign policy disasters were not a record to run on - as you well know, foreign policy rarely has much weight in elections, and in mid-terms?  So I don't see how any of that matters.  And the electorate is probably ever dumber, more cowardly, and more childish than they were in 2006 (this incl. a large % of "conservatives") during the national whining and hysteria festival.  So debacle/withdrawal/etc. are hardly negatives to most people.  Of course the nanosecond their lives are directly affected by global disorder they'll demand to know why everything isn't perfect and we aren't "doing something about it!"

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 04:40 PM (afQnV)

87 81 First his problem was that he was a "thief". That debunked, now his problem is that he is a Baptist Preacher? Good Lord, what's next? Did he violate High School campaign laws?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 04:40 PM (ojnk6)

88 Bet you a black friend as well. Posted by: Dick Nixon at February 27, 2014 09:36 PM (VrVBw) Just sent Vince Coakley, Black Republican, running for Mel Watts old seat, a check. EAT ME.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 04:40 PM (0FSuD)

89 Zap Brannigan was into stock fraud?!?

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 04:41 PM (tyz5J)

90 Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 09:34 PM (afQnV) Nah I'll stand with my list. Egypt is not almost a full Russian client again, arms and all. We pushed Mubarak out welcomed the Muslim Brotherhood in almost single handedly. And that alone alone with fumbling Iran and Syria has made all the Gulf States reconsider where there bread is buttered Iraq, after the surge, was in a "Stable" condition. All obama had to do was negotiate a status of forces agreement. He fumbled that on purpose as he is in Afghanistan. Our weakness all over the world and our deliberate destruction of our own Military has given Putin a free hand anywhere he so chooses and that includes the Ukraine. It was never ours, but it was headed towards the EU and a more Western outlook. No more my friend, No more. And in places like Libya, the devil we knew was better than Al Qauda which is what is left now. And on and on.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:41 PM (t3UFN)

91 adopted the burn it down program. It's either their way or the highway and now they have no candidate.

Nip, my good man . . . I am a HUGE proponent of the LIB stance, but I will always, ALWAYS shag my old, saggy, beer-infused ass out and vote AGAINST the Dems.  You want to retain your bitching rights?  VOTE.  Or just stfu and become part of the problem.

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 04:41 PM (8lmkt)

92 @84 Thanks, pink sort of looks grey or white.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 04:42 PM (0FSuD)

93 EAT ME. This rabbit-hole is even weirder than the other one.

Posted by: Alice at February 27, 2014 04:42 PM (aPp6U)

94 The wife of a colleague worked in minimum wage goffer-type jobs, until she hit the mother-lode.  She is now a TSA agent.  He is early sixties, so her health insurance helps him out big time.

The TSA: where the lumpen proletariat find employment.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 27, 2014 04:42 PM (V70Uh)

95 er I mean NM as likely D hold. R's upper limit, assuming everything goes swimmingly well, is 15 seats gained. I doubt we will approach that, but it's a far more impressive ceiling that we saw around this time last year looking towards 2014- 7 or 8 was the max.

Posted by: CAC at February 27, 2014 04:42 PM (w4IDR)

96 Thanks for all of the work you do to put this stuff together CAC.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 04:44 PM (ojnk6)

97 Tell me about "wide margins"...

Posted by: Ex-Senator Larry Craig at February 27, 2014 04:44 PM (Hu/Da)

98 More than 500 applications have poured in to the Orange County Sheriff’s Department in just two weeks — roughly the total number of applications filed in 2013, a spokesman said.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 04:44 PM (6bMeY)

99 #64 Mr. Clean was vaguely Middle Eastern, a kind of genie with that ring in his ear. Speaking of genies, I could never figure out why I Dream of Jeannie used a blonde gal. Was that ever explained?

Posted by: Marginally phobic at February 27, 2014 04:44 PM (/cUUk)

100 And so the Republicans eke out a bare majority... bearing in mind McShitty, Collins, Lisa Mancuso, Pansygraham, and Mark Kirk are still part of that caucus.

What difference will it make?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 04:44 PM (6GRz5)

101

DC driver's license ...... still recall going into a drugstore a few years back, freshly returned from one of our fun, er, war zones, and being unable to buy Sudafed-like pills for a raging head cold.  Drugstore system didn't have any codes for DC licenses (this was in CA).  Come to think of it, that was one of the early incidents that bundled up so much idiocy of various kinds and has led to a 100% disillusionment with the country, and society over the last few years.  I recall the other people in line, and the store manager, basically shared my disbelief and disgust that buying f***ing cold medicine had become such a ridiculous goat-rope.

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 04:44 PM (afQnV)

102 Californians are becoming bitter clingers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 04:45 PM (6bMeY)

103 When can I expect my 50# box of yummy bacon?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 27, 2014 04:45 PM (HVff2)

104 CAC, a request for color blind morons, that would be 9% of the male population.

cripes, next thing you know, he'll be asking us to pay for his gender reassignment surgery. 

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 04:45 PM (8lmkt)

105 "I gotta tell ya, I'm fucking scared of the Republicans as well. The 2003-2005 spending spree is seared into my mind as the catalyst for the Dog Eater's spending spree. This time the Republicans are after amnesty, and they will fucking push it the same way as the Dems pushed Obamacare."

This.

::: resigned mutterings :::

I remember the GOP having not just the House and the Senate, but the Oval Office. And what were the triumphant results?

Two wars which amounted to nothing more than profusely pouring blood and treasure out into the sand to no durable end. Not just any blood: some of the best the nation has. Not just any amount of treasure: a colossal amount of borrowed money. Meanwhile, at home: the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Administration. No cutbacks or abolishments of any existing government agencies. McCain-Feingold. Sarbanes-Oxley. Enormously bloated pork sausages masquerading as "farm" and "highway" bills. The Dread Justice Roberts (it's a tax!) heading up the Supreme Court. Harriet WTF Miers nearly on the Supreme Court. Light bulb bans. Ethanol everything. And a massive unrelenting push for illegal-alien amnesty.

Wow, with a track record like that, I can't tell you how very excited I am at the thought of voting Republican this year!

That is, I quite literally can't tell you how very excited I am.

Because I am not very excited at all. It's a grim duty.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 04:45 PM (gqT4g)

106 #96 Suck-up, toady, brown-noser.

Posted by: Marginally successful at February 27, 2014 04:46 PM (/cUUk)

107 I hate being marginalized.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 04:47 PM (6bMeY)

108 Wow, with a track record like that, I can't tell you how very excited I am at the thought of voting Republican this year!

***

Don't think of it as "voting Republican."

Think of it as getting a bunch of Democrats off the public teat.  For a while, at least.

Posted by: cool arrow at February 27, 2014 04:47 PM (Dqdyh)

109 What difference will it make?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 09:44 PM (6GRz5)


only one way to find out, eh?   how fuckin' hard is it to go vote?  srsly, don't make me mad.  we all know that doesn't end well.

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 04:47 PM (8lmkt)

110 No, it's true. Brannon was found guilty of STEALING $250,000 from his former classmate in med school.

I hope everyone turns out, but a lot of my tea party buddies seem mighty butt hurt and are acting like they are going to stay home. Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 09:33 PM (0FSuD)



Please clarify.   Is it your contention that Greg Brannon was found guilty of a criminal charge of theft and fraud?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 04:48 PM (Gk3SS)

111 106 You obviously missed the posts where CAC beat himself up over the 2012 results vs. Predictions. And, blow me.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 04:48 PM (ojnk6)

112 Those are some really weird color choices. A good idea for indicating changes in degree is to change saturation, but not the color. So it'd be the same shade of red, just get more so the more the Repubs were winning. I think there are books and sites all about proper color design in charts and that sort of thing. The unusual colors are making it harder to read than necessary, i think.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 04:48 PM (ZPrif)

113 When can I expect my 50# box of yummy bacon? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
--------------------------------------

You meant 5lb, right? Cause if it's 50, you'll be needing help.

*check flights to WI**

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 04:48 PM (4Mv1T)

114 The World Bank on Thursday said it postponed a $90 million loan to Uganda's health system over a law that toughened punishment for gays, an unusual move for an institution that usually avoids wading into politics. "We have postponed the project for further review to ensure that the development objectives would not be adversely affected by the enactment of this new law," World Bank spokesman David Theis said in an email. (Reuters) ???? So let them all die because they don't like gays in Uganda, but lift the sanctions on Iran who hangs them from Cranes? Oh yeah makes sense to me.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:48 PM (t3UFN)

115 Californians don't even know the words "bitter clingers".

Posted by: dogfish at February 27, 2014 04:48 PM (nsOJa)

116 #104 He's not color blind, he's differently sighted or maybe spectrumly challenged.

Posted by: Marginally successful at February 27, 2014 04:49 PM (/cUUk)

117 Soon Mickey Mouse may be packing heat.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 04:50 PM (6bMeY)

118 ...don't make me mad. we all know that doesn't end well.
Posted by: Peaches
-----------------------------------

anddddd ... the money quote for Thursday, February 27, 2014.

Film at 11.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 04:50 PM (4Mv1T)

119 Also, I think the chart would be helped a lot by keep the outline of the United States. Don't make everything black. Keeping the outline keeps everything connected and makes the map easier to read. Obviously, you'd have to move Alaska and Hawaii. The blackness combined with Alaska and Hawaii stomping on the Southwest is visually confusing, I think.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 04:50 PM (ZPrif)

120 Soon Mickey Mouse may be packing heat.

***

For all we know he already is.  That would explain why he wears pants and Donald doesn't.

Posted by: cool arrow at February 27, 2014 04:51 PM (Dqdyh)

121 Wow, totally O/T, I just got dumped by GF of 2.5 years. By cell phone. While she was at a hockey game. Speechless.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 04:51 PM (vHRtU)

122 "DC driver's license ...... still recall going into a drugstore a few years back, freshly returned from one of our fun, er, war zones, and being unable to buy Sudafed-like pills for a raging head cold. Drugstore system didn't have any codes for DC licenses (this was in CA)."

No surprise whatoseover. An absolutely amazing number of people in Commiefornia are completely unaware that the District of Columbia is not a state. I'm not making this up. It's probably the default majority opinion here.

That's our state's wonderful unionized public school system at work.

Because, y'know, states are just part of the imperialist system artificially imposed by force (with guns!) on the pacifist, matriarchal, Gaia-worshipping natives by evil phallocentric European Christian men who hate the planet and anyone who is not just like them. So why learn about that "states" crap anyway? They will be done away with sooner or later as all are absorbed and become Of The Body.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 04:52 PM (gqT4g)

123 Just a wild guess, but I'll venture to say Uganda's incidence rate of AIDS is very high and quite a burden for the dirt poor country.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 04:52 PM (tyz5J)

124

Nevergiveup of course I agree re general weakness and incompetence, just quibbling with Egypt (you're still wrong, and it isn't lost, unless you assume Obama-like presidencies for a few more terms - the army and Alexandria want a US connection, not a Russian one, whatever their short-term procurement stunts and strategies might look like).

 

And Dubya very much fumbled Iraq at the end, at least in a negative sense of not working a miracle - though it's not easy to see an alternative, as the IRAQIS THEMSELVES screwed everything up with their refusal to sign any worthwhile SOFA.  This was pre-screwed up when these idiots took over in 2009.  By the Iraqis themselves.  It was definitely not a promising situation that the idiotic Obama people messed up.

 

But like all else, I fear it's hopeless to actually frame foreign policy questions in a serious fashion - that is, not always and only revolving around US action/inaction.  Competence is hugely important, and the current administration is the most disastrously incompetent in modern history, but that doesn't account for many many challenging things that happen in the world.  They happen anyway - it's how we respond that we're really talking about.

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 04:52 PM (afQnV)

125 121 Speaking of blowing, that one really does. Sorry to hear OC.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 04:52 PM (ojnk6)

126 What difference will it make? Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 09:44 PM (6GRz5) Two words. Supreme Court.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 04:52 PM (0FSuD)

127 121 Wow, totally O/T, I just got dumped by GF of 2.5 years. By cell phone. While she was at a hockey game. Speechless. Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 09:51 PM (vHRtU) Dude, that's cold. Sorry to hear it.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 04:52 PM (UAMVq)

128 @99 Probably a French girl captured in a razzia or ghazw by mujahideen.

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 04:53 PM (sOtz/)

129 120 Donald Duck. Possible Moron?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 04:53 PM (6bMeY)

130 Wow, totally O/T, I just got dumped by GF of 2.5 years. By cell phone. While she was at a hockey game. Speechless. Posted by: OG Celtic-American Obviously, there is better out there for you.

Posted by: dogfish at February 27, 2014 04:53 PM (nsOJa)

131 Just a wild guess, but I'll venture to say Uganda's incidence rate of AIDS is very high and quite a burden for the dirt poor country. Posted by: soothie ------------------ That isn't important..., at least not so important as ghey something, something..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 04:54 PM (aDwsi)

132 116 #104 He's not color blind, he's differently sighted or maybe spectrumly challenged. Posted by: Marginally successful at February 27, 2014 09:49 PM (/cUUk) Colorchromonormative

Posted by: RWC at February 27, 2014 04:54 PM (MtC8f)

133 Nip- Please answer ATCs question. Other NC Morons need to hear whatever it is you know, that we don't.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 04:54 PM (4Mv1T)

134 120 Donald Duck. Possible Moron?

***

Possibly.  He does wear a French sailor's hat, though.

Posted by: cool arrow at February 27, 2014 04:54 PM (Dqdyh)

135 Damn that's harsh. I never liked hockey.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 04:54 PM (tyz5J)

136 133 Good luck with that......

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 04:55 PM (ojnk6)

137 Two words.

Supreme Court.


As if McAmnesty wouldn't jump at the chance to Gang of 9 us all over again.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 04:55 PM (6GRz5)

138 @110 Re: Brannon convicted crook I guess he's not adding his guilty verdict to his fundraisers. http://tinyurl.com/lba8a4c http://tinyurl.com/mrvlf7h

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 04:55 PM (0FSuD)

139 Did anyone mention the horrendous possibility of the TEA Party getting enough senators - except Matt Bevin -- elected to turn the senate Repube, but McConnell then takes the speakership? 

Posted by: RushBabe at February 27, 2014 04:56 PM (hrIP5)

140 What a bitch

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 27, 2014 04:56 PM (uOV6o)

141 Because I am not very excited at all. It's a grim duty.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 09:45 PM (gqT4g)


Don't forget Kelo.  That should be brought up as a stain on the court until the day it's repealed.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 04:56 PM (AaZLR)

142 121 Wow, totally O/T, I just got dumped by GF of 2.5 years. By cell phone. While she was at a hockey game. Speechless. Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 09:51 PM (vHRtU) Sucks. You've got my sympathies.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 04:56 PM (oFCZn)

143 121 Wow, totally O/T, I just got dumped by GF of 2.5 years. By cell phone. While she was at a hockey game. Speechless.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 09:51 PM (vHRtU)


Oh, dude, so harsh, so sorry . . . we're here for you!!!  {{{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 04:57 PM (8lmkt)

144 getting close to plaid

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 04:57 PM (zOTsN)

145 What do you call the people of Charlotte? Charlatans?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 04:57 PM (6bMeY)

146 OG, if you have any nekkid pics of her, now's the time . . .

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 04:58 PM (8lmkt)

147 They happen anyway - it's how we respond that we're really talking about. Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 09:52 PM (afQnV) It's how we have NOT responded to past "happenings" and how the World views our determination that often results in this "Happenings" that would otherwise not have happened or would have been greatly modified before hand. Weakness leads to adventurism.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:58 PM (t3UFN)

148 Anyone in VA get their "get out and vote" email from Bolling yet?

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 04:58 PM (4JkHl)

149 #81: The GOP has to convince embittered conservatives that this time really will be different. There's an awful lot of people out there ranging from hard-core conservatives to moderate liberals who don't vote, like at all, because they see no real difference between the two parties.

It's really hard to argue against the statement that the differences between the two parties are differences of degree, not of kind, when the GOP is pushing for amnesty, "compromising" on the budget in such a way as to spend even more than the Democrats were asking for, throwing in the towel on the increasingly unpopular Obamacare, not doing a thing to protect Christian business owners who don't want to participate in same-sex weddings, not treating the myriad forms of corruption in the Executive Branch as anything resembling a high-priority matter, and even fighting their own base with a ferocity they can't muster for the opposing party.

I try, but when one of my non-voting friends says, "It doesn't really matter who wins, because both parties are the same," and I can't come up with a better response than, "Nuh-uh! Your mom!", that's a problem.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 04:58 PM (/96QU)

150 Damn OG, that sucks.

Posted by: RWC at February 27, 2014 04:58 PM (MtC8f)

151 >>> 121 Wow, totally O/T, I just got dumped by GF of 2.5 years. By cell phone. While she was at a hockey game. Speechless. Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 27, 2014 09:51 PM (vHRtU) That's just rude. If she spent 2.5 yrs with you and couldn't even have that conversation in person, then you're better off without her. That probably doesn't make you feel better because I'm sure you cared about her. I'm sorry. You okay?

Posted by: L, elle at February 27, 2014 04:58 PM (0xqKe)

152 I believe establishment republican would rather let the dems win than allow a tea party candidate to win enough tea party candidates win, the gravy train is over if a dem wins the seat, the gravy train continues I expect electoral betrayals

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 04:59 PM (zOTsN)

153 138 @110 Re: Brannon convicted crook I guess he's not adding his guilty verdict to his fundraisers. http://tinyurl.com/lba8a4c http://tinyurl.com/mrvlf7h Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 09:55 PM (0FSuD) He lost a civil suit brought by some investors in a business venture. Saying he's a "convicted crook" is patently false.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 04:59 PM (UAMVq)

154 148 Is there an election?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 04:59 PM (6bMeY)

155 Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 09:58 PM (4JkHl) Nope.

Posted by: RWC at February 27, 2014 04:59 PM (MtC8f)

156

torquewrench, your bill of particulars on domestic policy is a grim echo of my own disillusionment (I think you left out Medicare Part D?).

 

But your comments on Iraq/A-stan are actually reminders of why I regret ever risking a pinky "for the country" and have no more hope for our international prospects:  the country, including many "conservatives", is fundamentally unserious about national security.  Neither war bears the slightest resemblance to your description, as commonplace as it is.

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 05:00 PM (afQnV)

157 VIKINGS!!!

Posted by: RWC at February 27, 2014 05:00 PM (MtC8f)

158 Re: Brannon convicted crook

I guess he's not adding his guilty verdict to his fundraisers.

http://tinyurl.com/lba8a4c

http://tinyurl.com/mrvlf7h
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 09:55 PM (0FSuD)



That does not answer my question.   I repeat, is it your contention that Greg Brannon was found guilty of a criminal charge of theft and fraud?


You see, your use of the terms "convicted" and "crook" are designed to lead to a very clear implication.   Therefore, I wish to know if you are willing to back up that implication.   Because, you see, I knew the answer to that question before those links.  I am deeply interested in knowing yours.  

For the record, I am utterly agnostic (unintentional call back to the theme of today's posts) as to Brannon's candidacy.   However, I am not agnostic, in the slightest, to the concept of duplicity.  

So.  I ask again.  Are you saying that Brannon was convicted, criminally, of theft and fraud?




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 05:00 PM (Gk3SS)

159 Mr. Clean was vaguely Middle Eastern, a kind of genie with that ring in his ear. Interesting. I always just assumed he was a sailor.

Posted by: dick cheese at February 27, 2014 05:00 PM (QupBk)

160 145 What do you call the people of Charlotte? Charlatans? Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 09:57 PM (6bMeY) I think about half the state calls us "Boss". The other half are farmers and we call them Boss.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 05:01 PM (0FSuD)

161 Wow, totally O/T, I just got dumped by GF of 2.5 years. By cell phone. While she was at a hockey game. Speechless. Posted by: OG Celtic-American I am sure it hurts like hell and it sounds cliché but you are soooo better off without her what a coward and a bitch

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 05:01 PM (zOTsN)

162 Nip- If you are the face of the NC GOP, I am glad I changed my party affiliation to "unaffiliated".

You aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

Now get thee in front of a mirror and see what it looks like.

Then change for the better.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:01 PM (4Mv1T)

163 157 I'll have to wait for it to post.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 05:02 PM (6bMeY)

164 The GOP has to convince embittered conservatives that this time really will be different.

That's a tough sell considering McConnell just wrote Obama a blank check on the debt ceiling and high-fived Harry Reid after he did it. 

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 05:03 PM (6GRz5)

165 So. I ask again. Are you saying that Brannon was convicted, criminally, of theft and fraud? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 10:00 PM (Gk3SS) Did you read the story? He was convicted of civil FRAUD, the stealing of $250,000 from his former classmates. The court ordered him to repay that money. He is a convicted crook, by the decision of a jury.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 05:03 PM (0FSuD)

166 John Schindler ‏@20committee Interfax: mystery troops @ Simferopol airport spoke with "thick" RU accents & greeted by people carrying St Andrew's flags, RU navy standard

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 05:03 PM (ZPrif)

167 #164: My point exactly.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 05:04 PM (/96QU)

168 I didn't divorce him because he was insane. I said he was fuckin' Goofy.

Posted by: Minnie Mouse at February 27, 2014 05:04 PM (/cUUk)

169 Comrade De Blasio Strikes Again: Shutters 3 Charter Schools, Evicts Hundreds Of Kids From Their Schools Yeah, can’t have proven successful operating in public school buildings, that would show up the union, wouldn’t it? Via NY Post: Mayor de Blasio brought down the hammer Thursday on three charter schools operated by nemesis Eva Moskowitz, leaving hundreds of kids without classrooms this fall. “This has to be the saddest day for the Success Academy’s children, family, teachers, school leaders,” Moskowitz said after meeting with stunned charter parents in Harlem. “Right now, our kids are being evicted. Evicted out of their school. It’s wrong and we need an explanation. You’re going to have to ask Mayor Deblasio what the motivations are for a decision that will hurt so many children now and, frankly, forever.” Fulfilling a campaign pledge to limit charter expansions within public school buildings, de Blasio revoked approvals granted last year by the Bloomberg administration to two new Success Academy schools and to a third that planned to expand. NYC, the real Moscow on the Hudson

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 05:05 PM (t3UFN)

170 165 Buh bye now, Nip. Coming in 5...4...3....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 05:05 PM (ojnk6)

171 Of course, the election is still eight months out. That's plenty of time for the GOP to destroy itself, or for the economy to spontaneously roar back to life, or for President Obama to send fifty-pound packages of bacon to every household in America. But right now, things look bad for the Democrats, and they have the potential to get much, much worse. **** We'll take the good news as it comes to us. This post is proof that CAC loves us.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:05 PM (DmNpO)

172 Interesting. I always just assumed he was a sailor.

Posted by: dick cheese at February 27, 2014 10:00 PM (QupBk)


As did I...back in the days of wooden ships, with long voyages and lots of down time waiting on wind, one of the ways to maintain order was to keep the crew busy, so constant cleaning was a given (not to mention the hygienic benefits, such as preventing the spread of shipborne disease).  I've never actually met an enlisted sailor who spent time at sea, so I wonder whether that's still the case.  My bet is that the tradition still holds.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 05:05 PM (AaZLR)

173 160 145 What do you call the people of Charlotte? Charlatans? If they emigrated from my neck of the woods, they should be called Charlotte Russes.

Posted by: Putin at February 27, 2014 05:06 PM (/cUUk)

174 I've told you before No Bickering.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 05:06 PM (tyz5J)

175 168 I didn't divorce him because he was insane. I said he was fuckin' Goofy. Posted by: Minnie Mouse at February 27, 2014 10:04 PM (/cUUk) Well, at least they can go get married and force a Christian baker to make them a wedding cake.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 05:06 PM (UAMVq)

176 Kerry Kennedy’s fate is in the hands of a Westchester County jury that will continue deliberating Friday whether the daughter of Robert F. Kennedy intentionally drove while impaired by a prescription sleeping pill or was turned into a car-driving “zombie” after accidentally taking the Ambien. The panel convened for 40 minutes before being sent home Thursday. If that bitch gets off, I give up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 05:07 PM (t3UFN)

177 174 I've told you before No Bickering. Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 10:06 PM (tyz5J) No fighting in the War Room!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 05:07 PM (UAMVq)

178 * pictures ATC casually filing her nails to a point *

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 05:07 PM (aDwsi)

179 "Wow, totally O/T, I just got dumped by GF of 2.5 years. By cell phone. While she was at a hockey game. Speechless."

A buddy of mine got the same treatment twenty years ago from a frankly pretty hot number to whom he was engaged. It hit him hard.

A couple of us guys went over to buck up his spirits with distilled spirits.

And among the observations was, "Anyone who won't treat you with reasonable respect while leaving is someone you're better off without."

It took my buddy about THREE YEARS of moping to get over his depressed dumpitude and see the wisdom of that advice. But he did. Brightened and blossomed and started dating again. And fortunately did not succumb to the "they're all bitches" syndrome that locks some badly treated guys into perpetual bitter bachelorhood.

Today, he's married to an admirable woman in a rock solid marriage and they both treat one another with an amazing level of love and respect.

The woman who dumped him had a long string of boyfriends after that and then slowly ran out of looks. Flipped out in a major way when the whistles and catcalls and the proffered phone numbers stopped. Fell off the radar. No idea where she is now or if she's even on the top side of the grass still.

Lessons learnt.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 05:07 PM (gqT4g)

180 If Republicans even looked like they were sorry about having to cave, I might be less cynical. But they always seem so proud and happy with their "bipartisanship."

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 05:07 PM (6GRz5)

181 * pictures ATC casually filing her nails to a point * Posted by: Mike Hammer
------------------------------------

Hell, I'll loan her 3 or 4 guns.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:08 PM (4Mv1T)

182 My bet is that the tradition still holds.

I dont think they have the manpower for it on many ships, and optempo, even on tests, is really a grinder.  Maybe on the bigger ships.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:08 PM (4JkHl)

183 I didn't divorce him because he was insane. I said he was fuckin' Goofy. **** Holy cow that's an old joke! I heard that when I was a little girl.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:08 PM (DmNpO)

184 GF 2 .5 years? 

Maybe she got tired of waiting for you to "pop the question."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 27, 2014 05:09 PM (V70Uh)

185 The woman who dumped him had a long string of boyfriends after that and then slowly ran out of looks. Flipped out in a major way when the whistles and catcalls and the proffered phone numbers stopped. Fell off the radar. No idea where she is now or if she's even on the top side of the grass still. Lessons learnt. Posted by: torquewrench this is wisdom she will behave like this all her life who needs that

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 05:09 PM (zOTsN)

186 If that bitch gets off, I give up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 10:07 PM (t3UFN)


Didn't Patrick (what a waste of a good name) Kennedy get off DUI charges in DC using the same defense?  I can't keep all the Kennedy criminals straight anymore.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 05:09 PM (AaZLR)

187 I had a Sgt. Major who looked like Mr. Clean, sans the earring. He was called that too, in whispers..., when he wasn't around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 05:09 PM (aDwsi)

188 165 So. I ask again. Are you saying that Brannon was convicted, criminally, of theft and fraud? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 10:00 PM (Gk3SS) Did you read the story? He was convicted of civil FRAUD, the stealing of $250,000 from his former classmates. The court ordered him to repay that money. He is a convicted crook, by the decision of a jury. Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 10:03 PM (0FSuD) 1) Reading comprehension does not appear to be your strong suit. 2) Do you honestly not grok the difference between a civil and a criminal trial? 3) Trying to pick a fight with AtC, especially in legal matters, is not a smart move.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 05:09 PM (UAMVq)

189 Sessions had a good speech at Tea Party Patriots.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 05:10 PM (6bMeY)

190 This post is proof that CAC loves us.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 10:05 PM (DmNpO)


c'est vrai!

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 05:10 PM (8lmkt)

191 "de Blasio revoked approvals granted last year by the Bloomberg administration to two new Success Academy schools and to a third that planned to expand."

I'd like to see Bloomberg step up and buy them some space as a farewell FYNQ.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:10 PM (4JkHl)

192 Seems to me Mr Sip provided enough evidence to support his initial claim. It also seems to.me that the information provided is indeed relevant and worthy of serious consideration.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 05:10 PM (tyz5J)

193 And fortunately did not succumb to the "they're all bitches" syndrome that locks some badly treated guys into perpetual bitter bachelorhood. That sounds familiar...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 05:10 PM (UAMVq)

194 Tobacco in Wisconsin alot of people call a 50# box of bacon the weekend.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 27, 2014 05:11 PM (Q8vlx)

195 Of course, the election is still eight months out. That's plenty of time for the GOP to destroy itself Give me a break. We can do it in 5. Si se puede!

Posted by: GOP/e [/i] [/b] at February 27, 2014 05:11 PM (5ikDv)

196 169 --- That charter school story makes me sick. So does the Uganda one. These "compassionate" elites do not give a damn about education or health or anything but their own power.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 05:11 PM (dfYL9)

197 192 Seems to me Mr Sip provided enough evidence to support his initial claim. It also seems to.me that the information provided is indeed relevant and worthy of serious consideration. Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 10:10 PM (tyz5J) No he did not. Brannon was not "convicted" of anything.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 05:11 PM (UAMVq)

198 Shits is a dead man walking in Hawaii Unfortunately a seriously corrupt hanabusa will get it so still a D

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:11 PM (BDHOa)

199 165 -

As someone who has no real interest in this story, I would say by reading your posts here, you are being deliberately obtuse, and intentionally misleading.  Which is ironic, since that is essentially what the jury's finding was in that case.

You have no credibility here, chum.  And  being a deliberate dick regarding the Tea Party isn't helping either. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:11 PM (BeSEI)

200 192 See 188.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 05:11 PM (ojnk6)

201 3) Trying to pick a fight with AtC, especially in legal matters, is not a smart move.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 10:09 PM (UAMVq)


Slow thread, entertaining outcome...I don't really see the downside here.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 05:12 PM (AaZLR)

202 I could understand this better if it was presented as a pie chart.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 27, 2014 05:12 PM (/cUUk)

203 Kerry Kennedy’s fate is in the hands of a Westchester County jury that will continue deliberating Friday whether the daughter of Robert F. Kennedy intentionally drove while impaired by a prescription sleeping pill or was turned into a car-driving “zombie” after accidentally taking the Ambien. The panel convened for 40 minutes before being sent home Thursday. If that bitch gets off, I give up *** I have no problem believing that someone who takes multiple prescriptions might absentmindedly take the wrong pill. It's the poor whoa-is-me, my daddy died 45 years ago bullshit for which she should be jailed. I DESPISE manipulators. That ckufing clan will live off the corpses of JFK and Bobby for a century to come.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:12 PM (DmNpO)

204 Prothonotary Warbler, Hi! Yep, it's hard to imagine the GOP doing something smart, but perhaps they'll pull it off this time. Exciting times! Or maybe Gardner is a closet cow-molester with several secret wives who opposes birth control for prostitutes. (Maybe I shouldn't make jokes like that; might start a rumor.)

Posted by: Mindy at February 27, 2014 05:12 PM (RMfGb)

205 "convicted of civil" Ah.....?

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 05:12 PM (sOtz/)

206 Civil courts make judgments. Criminal courts convict.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 05:12 PM (6bMeY)

207 Now seeing reports the Russians have apologized and left the airport. Weird. Simferopol airport rep says armed men have left. They were worried about possible landings by #Ukraine paratroopers. http://www.interfax.ru/world/news/361715#.Uw_ziLEtymE.twitter …

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 05:12 PM (ZPrif)

208 But I'm not running. So I still have time to be a venal, bribe-taking pathological liar and presumed pederast. Super!

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 27, 2014 05:13 PM (KbrNh)

209 That ckufing clan will live off the corpses of JFK and Bobby for a century to come. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 10:12 PM (DmNpO) And mob-upped bootleg liquor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 05:13 PM (t3UFN)

210

I've never actually met an enlisted sailor who spent time at sea, so I wonder whether that's still the case. My bet is that the tradition still holds.

 

It's been a few lot of years, but yes the cleaning continues.  Now the primary reasoning is limiting potential fuels for  fire as well as debris in the event of needing to dewater a space due to battle damage or flooding.

 

A lot of repainting goes on also 

Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 05:13 PM (KDUNf)

211 They were worried about possible landings by #Ukraine paratroopers. http://www.interfax.ru/world/news/361715#.Uw_ziLEtymE.twitter … Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 10:12 PM (ZPrif Worried no. We call that a target

Posted by: Russian Air Force at February 27, 2014 05:14 PM (t3UFN)

212 "I've never actually met an enlisted sailor who spent time at sea, so I wonder whether that's still the case. My bet is that the tradition still holds."

32 years doing that.
Yes, it still holds.

"Field day" in elementary school is not the same as "Field day" at sea.
Trust me on this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2014 05:14 PM (DPkKe)

213 a technicality? are you shittin me? semantics are stupid

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 05:15 PM (tyz5J)

214 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 05:16 PM (t3UFN)

215 Criminal: convicted Civil: found liable Civil not= criminal. In case "Ah...?" was not clear.

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 05:16 PM (sOtz/)

216 210. ???? Which post asks the question I was enlisted with 14 1/2 years sea time

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:16 PM (BDHOa)

217 It's quiet. Too quiet. *shifty eyes*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 05:16 PM (oFCZn)

218 213 No, a difference between a criminal conviction and a civil judgement. But, whatevs....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 05:16 PM (ojnk6)

219 Why did those dumbasses take it to trial?  If there was an outside shot of him becoming a Senator, wait for you payday.  Your not getting your 200K from him now.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:16 PM (4JkHl)

220 From the sidebar, Ben Shapiro gets on the target and fires for effect at the UCLA Israel divestment hearing (it's short and sweet): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOIv6owDXYo

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 05:16 PM (AaZLR)

221 "I'm Popeye, the Sailor Man. I live in a frying pan. Turn on the gas It burns my ass. I'm Popeye the Sailor Man, toot toot!"

Posted by: "Special" Joey Biden at February 27, 2014 05:17 PM (/cUUk)

222 #204: Hi, Mindy! How's it going? How's the husband?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 05:17 PM (/96QU)

223 I have no problem believing that someone who takes multiple prescriptions might absentmindedly take the wrong pill. It's the poor whoa-is-me, my daddy died 45 years ago bullshit for which she should be jailed. I DESPISE manipulators. That ckufing clan will live off the corpses of JFK and Bobby for a century to come. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse she is the one who cuckholded Cuomo with one of his best friends initially Cuomo was pissed and leaking to the press like a sieve she is a true Kennedy substance abuse - check serial infidelity - check riding on dead men's coat tails - check

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 05:17 PM (zOTsN)

224

216 210. ????
Which post asks the question

 

172

Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 05:17 PM (KDUNf)

225 Did you read the story?

He was convicted of civil FRAUD, the stealing of $250,000 from his former classmates.

The court ordered him to repay that money.

He is a convicted crook, by the decision of a jury. Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 10:03 PM (0FSuD)


Do you know the difference between civil and criminal court?


Let me put you some knowledge.   A civil jury can find someone liable.   A civil jury can order restitution.  A civil jury can find a person to be negligent or to have engaged in intentional acts.  But do you know what a civil jury cannot do?  A civil jury cannot convict anyone of anything at all.  A conviction is a finding of criminal fault. 

Also the court did not order him to repay the money, the jury made such a finding and the court will enforce that civil verdict.  

I see that you are bound and determined to double down on the convicted crook, by the decision of the jury formulation.   That leads me to the following conclusion.   Either you are incapable of comprehending the difference between criminal and civil or you are more than willing to be utterly duplicitous and use language which you are aware carries a clear implication of criminal conviction, a fact which you know to be wholly false.


I will grant that you have the wit to know the difference between civil and criminal.   That means you are duplicitous.   I shall bear that in mind when reading what you say in the future. 


Also, I fail to note any type of finding of stealing or theft by the jury.  Fraud is not theft.  Fraud is not stealing.   You may think that it is the same thing but stating that a jury found such?  Well, I shall fall back on duplicity on your part.   


Here's the ridiculous part.  There is no need on your part to shade the facts as you are.  Even given what I know about civil jury verdicts and how those verdicts frequently do not comport with objective reality, I would concur that this is a significant matter.   But no.   No, you feel compelled, for reasons that are truly beyond me, to attempt to portray this as something it is not.   Okay then.  

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 05:17 PM (Gk3SS)

226 I was enlisted with 14 1/2 years sea time Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 10:16 PM (BDHOa) I can see the Water from room at Portsmouth Naval Hospital?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 05:17 PM (t3UFN)

227 Why did those dumbasses take it to trial? If there was an outside shot of him becoming a Senator, wait for you payday. Your not getting your 200K from him now.
Posted by: Jean at February
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He's an OB in a rich town.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:18 PM (4Mv1T)

228 Okay, if not pie charts, how about bar graphs? Indulge me. That friggin' map makes my head hurt.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 27, 2014 05:19 PM (/cUUk)

229 the Beltway RINOs will find a way to throw this all away because of "TEA Party Racism" or some such other bullshit.

to beat the rush, i've started drinking naow.

Fuck the GOP

Let
It
Burn

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 27, 2014 05:19 PM (q+fqH)

230 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 10:17 PM (Gk3SS)

Oh, snap!  There's a reason you are our queen.  {bows and scrapes, loves u a lot}

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 05:19 PM (8lmkt)

231 219 -

Granted,  I think the guy is essentially done as a candidate, but  this whole thing strikes me as a big fat nothing... or it would be if he wasn't running for office.

For rich guys, it's the equivalent of  an average dude lending his buddy $20, and being told he'd give  it back on Tuesday.  Then  on Wednesday he is squirrelly  about whether he's going to have it on Thursday or not. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:19 PM (BeSEI)

232 I had a string of bad relationships and then, round about 2002 I just pulled the plug and went celibate. When people asked me I wasn't dating anymore, I would paraphrase Fred Gwynne in 'Pet Sematary.' "Sometimes... single is bettah."

Then, about ten years later, I slipped and fell in love with someone not even half my age. We're still together and it's still working... but sometimes I feel like it was easier, if not better, not having to factor another person into my life decisions.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 05:20 PM (6GRz5)

233 OK, if the Russian fleet takes over your port:
Do NOT go down the Steps!

Posted by: Sergei Eisenstein at February 27, 2014 05:20 PM (xq1UY)

234 I was enlisted with 14 1/2 years sea time

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 10:16 PM (BDHOa)


I asked the original question / speculation at 172.  #CubFan

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 05:20 PM (AaZLR)

235 Well said, ATC. Well said.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:20 PM (4Mv1T)

236 And on and on. Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 09:41 PM (t3UFN) The President isn't done yet. He was brought up to believe the United States has historically been a monstrous, voracious, imperialistic machine, an exploiter of the masses both here and abroad. To make us better we must be punished, humbled, shown the error of our ways. Made small. Then transformed and made new. It's a process. All Leftists believe in this process, although most of them think in terms of the dialectic, with all of its catchphrases and jargon. Anyway, the GOP may very well take the Senate and hold the House. If that happens, they can maybe mitigate the damage that's already been done and--if they do their jobs--slow down the process. But this transformation Obama promised? It has a momentum of its own. I don't know that it can be stopped.

Posted by: troyriser at February 27, 2014 05:21 PM (ptcFO)

237 #232: Your story gives me a little bit of hope, Gregory. Thanks1

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 05:21 PM (/96QU)

238 Aw, rats . . . I barely had time to pop the popcorn!

Posted by: filbert at February 27, 2014 05:21 PM (roTS7)

239 224. Thanks Ahhhh, field day I fucking hate field day like the cubs hate winning On ships they clean and clean some more Mainly due to fire, missile, and slip hazards Ships are dangerous by nature, peacetime steaming can kill you

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:21 PM (j6Axb)

240 Why did those dumbasses take it to trial? If there
was an outside shot of him becoming a Senator, wait for you payday. Your
not getting your 200K from him now.


Posted by: Jean at February
-----------------------------

He's an OB in a rich town.
Posted by: Tobacco Road

So, delay a bit.  If he loses the primary, go for it.  If he wins, a quiet 300K or we sink your campaign.  Or, if you've got the guts for longball - wait for him to become a Senator, then cash in.  Even a junior Senator can move $20M in milcon dollars around.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:22 PM (4JkHl)

241 @232 And this slice of life confessional is in reference to...?

Posted by: Sally Jesse Raphael channeling Ann Landers at February 27, 2014 05:22 PM (/cUUk)

242 228 -

At this point, I just want pie. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:22 PM (BeSEI)

243 Mr. Warbler, I'm having a pretty good semester with enjoyable students and a math text that is 60% less stupid than the one I had last semester. Mr. Bassman has had a recent and welcome uptick in real estate activity the last several weeks. The money won't start rolling in until April or so, so we may have to borrow some money in the meantime. I hate that.

Posted by: Mindy at February 27, 2014 05:23 PM (RMfGb)

244 @188 A conviction is a guilty verdict. A crook is defined as one that is dishonest. A jury of 12 found Mr. Brannon to be dishonest. They found him guilty, and interestingly only he guilty, not his co defendant. They found he mislead, that would be lied, to his investors and fraudulently took their money. Do you all think we can elect a convicted liar to the US Senate? Did any of you all read the stories I linked? Seriously? Give it up Brannon is toast. Why pray tell didn't he tell Glen Beck, when he was on his show, hey, got to go now, going back to court to see if I will be found guilty of stealing a quarter of a million dollars from my med school classmates. Disgusting. He has lied to everyone. Didn't pay his property tax till the newspaper called him. This is a candidate? Embarrassing.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 05:24 PM (0FSuD)

245 244 Try responding to AtCs post, minus the MSNBC vibe. Thanks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 05:25 PM (ojnk6)

246 Oh, snap! There's a reason you are our queen. Love and despair.

Posted by: toby928 at February 27, 2014 05:25 PM (QupBk)

247 238 Aw, rats . . . I barely had time to pop the popcorn! Posted by: filbert I barely had time to pop her cherry.

Posted by: Some dirty old man posting a ribald rejoinder at February 27, 2014 05:25 PM (/cUUk)

248 226. I can see the Water from room at Portsmouth Naval Hospital? As a crusty old Master Blaster told me as a pup, sailors belong at sea And always check in Thailand but that's a different story

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:25 PM (HPNED)

249 "torquewrench, your bill of particulars on domestic policy is a grim echo of my own disillusionment (I think you left out Medicare Part D?)."

I did leave out Part D, and it's assuredly part of the list, and I thank you.

"But your comments on Iraq/A-stan are actually reminders of why I regret ever risking a pinky 'for the country' and have no more hope for our international prospects: the country, including many 'conservatives', is fundamentally unserious about national security."

I spend a lot of time ruminating about national security issues. And defense is after all a specifically enumerated Constitutional function of the federal government.

I have had a long long long list of people try to argue me out of the belief that the wars of the 2000s were not completely ass-backwards and a bloodsoaked fiasco. None have succeeded. Not even close.

Any national security strategy which starts with, as first premises, the ideas that "Islam is a religion of peace," and that "Saudi Arabia and Pakistan will be our allies in a War On Terror," is a strategy which owes more intellectual inspiration to Lewis Carroll than it owes to von Clausewitz.

I put it to you that one of the chief elements of a realistic, functional national security strategy is keeping the populace aware that war may happen and that the country must be kept ready for war, just in case. A corollary is that getting into wars without good prospects of a durable political outcome (remember: war is the continuation of politics by other means) works against this end.

Where are we today? In a condition where two horribly botched, mismanaged wars of choice, wars that should not have happened, have demoralized the American electorate. Those wars revived an isolationist pacifism in America (in a world no longer structurally hospitable to isolationism pacifism), and where Americans now think it's perfectly OK to have a military shrunken to its smallest size since before the Second World War without any risk of anything going awry.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 05:25 PM (gqT4g)

250
Do you all think we can elect a convicted liar to the US Senate?

Ha

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:25 PM (4JkHl)

251 244 -

Now you're just making a damn fool of yourself. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:25 PM (BeSEI)

252 I know a little bit about wide margins.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at February 27, 2014 05:25 PM (Dwehj)

253 For the first time in two decades, the mayor of New York City will not march in the annual St. Patrick Day’s Parade on March 17 but will instead join the “St. Pat’s for All” parade in Queens that will feature gay marchers, including Irish drag queen Pandora Panti Bliss. “I am not planning on marching in the parade,” Mayor Bill de Blasio said at a City Hall press conference on Feb. 4, as reported by the New York Daily News on Feb. 5. “I will be participating in a number of other events to honor the Irish heritage of this city, but I simply disagree with the organizers of that parade,” said de Blasio, who did not specify what events he would join. The Daily News also reported that the annual parade – which dates back to 1766 – does not prohibit homosexuals from taking part but does restrict signage. “Parade planners have said gays are welcome to join the procession, which is expected to draw more than 1 million people on March 17, but they cannot identify themselves in any way by their sexual orientation,” the Daily News article stated. I'll be honest I do not want to spend another penny in that cesspool of a city. Sorry JJ

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 05:26 PM (t3UFN)

254 So, delay a bit. If he loses the primary, go for it. If he wins, a quiet 300K or we sink your campaign. Or, if you've got the guts for longball - wait for him to become a Senator, then cash in. Even a junior Senator can move $20M in milcon dollars around. Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 10:22 PM (4JkHl) Jean, you have it backwards. The candidate got sued, he stole the money. He had no say in when the lawsuit was filed. Wonder why he never mentioned the lawsuit to his supporters? He's a liar.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 05:26 PM (0FSuD)

255 So, delay a bit. If he loses the primary, go for it. If he wins, a quiet 300K or we sink your campaign. Or, if you've got the guts for longball - wait for him to become a Senator, then cash in. Even a junior Senator can move $20M in milcon dollars around.
Posted by: Jean
----------------------------------------------

I think the suit took on a life of it's one. Pissed investors. Things didn't work out. Happened to my childhood friend who I worked with for 13 years during the same time frame.

The investors were likely not after HIS money, just THEIR money, and wanted it NOW.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:26 PM (4Mv1T)

256 holy shit, I think some of you need nappies

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 05:26 PM (tyz5J)

257 248 That Portsmouth Hospital has some rather breathtaking views. My Dad was laid up in there with a heart thing a long time ago.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 05:27 PM (6bMeY)

258 I'm talking about the guys who sued him.  They're idiots.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:27 PM (4JkHl)

259 Oh, snap! There's a reason you are our queen.

Love and despair.

Posted by: toby928© at February 27, 2014 10:25 PM (QupBk)


No.  Brains and bawls.  Brass bawls. 

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 05:28 PM (8lmkt)

260 I barely had time to pop her cherry. See, that's what happens when you get TOO excited. let that be a lesson to us all.

Posted by: filbert at February 27, 2014 05:28 PM (roTS7)

261 225. That was it???!!! Wth? I get death threats for less Guess I'm either special or you and T are plotting to collect the insurance and go boot shopping

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:28 PM (HPNED)

262 Jon Corzine wasn't convicted either but none of you would hesitate calling him a crook.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 05:28 PM (tyz5J)

263 In incredibly important tennis news, Gilles Simon appears to be turning into a werewolf.   WTF, Simon, you have a perfectly acceptable face!  Why are you covering it up!  

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 05:28 PM (Gk3SS)

264 @236 At least we can look forward! to the inevitable failure of their utopian dreams. There will be a lot of egg shells to clean up.

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 05:28 PM (sOtz/)

265 The cat's eaten it.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at February 27, 2014 05:28 PM (QupBk)

266 #243: Well, that's good, overall. Glad to hear it. I have a little bit of money saved up, if you need some help. I'm planning on buying a car, but I don't feel like I have enough just yet, so a loan really wouldn't be setting me back or anything.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 05:28 PM (/96QU)

267 Miami only up 29 on the Knicks. Whatsa wrong with them?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 05:29 PM (t3UFN)

268 Our work is finished in NYC.

Posted by: Teh Ghey Mafia at February 27, 2014 05:29 PM (Dwehj)

269 Love and despair. Posted by: toby928© at February 27, 2014 10:25 PM (QupBk) And glitter and raptors.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 05:29 PM (oFCZn)

270 251 244 - Now you're just making a damn fool of yourself. Why for telling the truth? You want your candidates VETTED, BEFORE they run right? I didn't make any of this up. Read the stories.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 05:29 PM (0FSuD)

271 But this transformation Obama promised? It has a momentum of its own. I don't know that it can be stopped.

Posted by: troyriser at February 27, 2014 10:21 PM (ptcFO)


As it started before him and has only been accelerated by his zeal, I am in agreement.  I hate it, and try to disagree with myself about it, but at this point I truly believe that decline is inevitable barring a transformative event, and I can't imagine one.  I'm not the most imaginative or creative person in the world, but I can game out possibilities, and I can't imagine a major and transformative event that would make the American people want the ratchet of government to reverse its course, whereas its very easy to imagine any number of scenarios where the government must increase its footprint in order to maintain and preserver the status quo.  We are all in the pot, and heat is being turned up.  Will enough frogs notice soon enough to jump out?  I doubt it.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 05:29 PM (AaZLR)

272 262 -

That's  a really stupid argument.  Do you know what Corzine did? 


Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:29 PM (BeSEI)

273 256 holy shit, I think some of you need nappies Posted by: soothie I don't know, Depends.

Posted by: The lame punster at February 27, 2014 05:30 PM (/cUUk)

274 @262 But not a "convicted" crook. He did make a billion dollars disappear under his stewardship. Crooked certainly.

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 05:30 PM (sOtz/)

275 265 The cat's eaten it.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at February 27, 2014 10:28 PM (QupBk)


give it time . . . you'll be scraping it out of the carpet by midnight.

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 05:30 PM (8lmkt)

276 262 Corzine had the right initial after his name with this Admin. And, you also are avoiding responding to AtCs most excellent legal post replying to this kerfuffle. Why in the world could that be.....?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 05:30 PM (ojnk6)

277 "...but will instead join the “St. Pat’s for All” parade in Queens that will feature gay marchers including Irish drag queen Pandora Panti Bliss." Nothing against gay people but I just can't relate to self-caricature or out-of-control affectation. Life is already absurd enough.

Posted by: troyriser at February 27, 2014 05:31 PM (ptcFO)

278 I didn't make any of this up. Read the stories. Posted by: Nip Sip
--------------------------

You put an damned ugly spin on it because you have a political agenda, that not all here share. Your GOP establishment turd, at the expense of someone likely better.

Like it couldn't happen to Tillis.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:32 PM (4Mv1T)

279 Has T9 dropped out of sight? I recall that there was some sort of dust-up the other day with Ace, but I didn't think it was serious.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 05:32 PM (aDwsi)

280 270 -

I read the stories, nitwit.  You keep using the word "convicted." 

Nobody was convicted of anything.  A jury said he should give a couple guys their money back. 

If you had any sense, which you don't, apparently, you would realize this does, indeed, sink him as a candidate.  But you can't seem to help yourself, and you keep doing essentially the exact same thing he did, which was  to  deliberately mislead people to try to get your way. 

Again, you have no credibility.  None. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:32 PM (BeSEI)

281 I just can't relate to self-caricature or out-of-control affectation. Hey, the top hat is just to cover the bald spot.

Posted by: toby928 at February 27, 2014 05:32 PM (QupBk)

282 Never before have so few held sway over so many!

Posted by: Teh Ghey Mafia at February 27, 2014 05:32 PM (Dwehj)

283 Any of you guys tried to collect a judgement against a rich guy with a lawyer -- massive pain in the ass.  A 250K judgement is going to get whittled down and eaten up in lawyer fees to a third of that. 

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:33 PM (4JkHl)

284 Never before have so few held sway over so many! It doesn't hurt to be histories richest oppressed minority.

Posted by: toby928 at February 27, 2014 05:33 PM (QupBk)

285 Civil only needs a 51% to 49% margin of victory. These are not necessarily bound to reality. As in the Asbestos Fraud industry where schickster lawyers sue in the most incompetent district they can find and put on emotional bullshit displays in front of the jury. They don't have asbestosis or any of the right diseases. They smoked 3 packs of cigs a day for 40 years but it was that dreaded asbestos that did it to them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 05:33 PM (6bMeY)

286 283. And then the tax man gets his cut

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:34 PM (HPNED)

287 266 Prothonotary Warbler, that is so sweet I don't even know what to say but thank you. Unfortunately, I like you a lot. If you lent us money, it would take a lot of cajoling and rigamarole to get it back. I do not want that to happen between us. Hope you know how much I appreciate your offer.

Posted by: Mindy at February 27, 2014 05:34 PM (RMfGb)

288 I got no dog in this fight, but I would want to know if a candidate was being sued for fraud were the plaintiffs politically motivated ala Sarah Palin's enemies?

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 05:34 PM (zOTsN)

289 Oh.., St. Patty's day. Time for humor: ----- A Utah Mormon was seated next to an Irish Catholic on a flight back to the States from London. After the plane was airborne, drink orders were taken. The Irishman asked for a whiskey and a glass of Guinness, which were promptly brought and placed before him. The flight attendant then asked the Mormon if he would like a drink. He replied in disgust, "I'd rather be savagely raped by a dozen whores than let liquor touch my lips." The Irishman then handed his drinks back to the attendant and said, "Me too, I didn't know we had a choice."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 05:34 PM (aDwsi)

290 But you can't seem to help yourself, and you keep doing essentially the exact same thing he did, which was to deliberately mislead people to try to get your way.

Again, you have no credibility. None.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Possibly one of the wisest statements made all night.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:34 PM (4Mv1T)

291 How is franken blue. He needed a bogus recount and a 3rd (split?) part challenger to win that seat in the first place.

Posted by: honkskillet at February 27, 2014 05:34 PM (DBZx5)

292 Speaking of Corzine, who was the guy that hid archival records in his pants, some Clinton high-up, can't recall his name. Amazing how quickly Dem scandals and crooks disappear off the MSM radar but they'll squeeze and milk forever a Repub scandal or quasi-scandal.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 27, 2014 05:34 PM (/cUUk)

293 Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 10:34 PM (aDwsi)

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!! 

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 05:35 PM (8lmkt)

294 Hammer- That was GREAT!

BWAHAHAHAHA!


Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:35 PM (4Mv1T)

295 since it was civil why didn't he settle?

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 05:35 PM (zOTsN)

296 279 Has T9 dropped out of sight? I recall that there was some sort of dust-up the other day with Ace, but I didn't think it was serious. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 10:32 PM (aDwsi) I was wondering the same thing. Haven't seen him but he did have a dust up with some regulars when he decided to play net nanny. You know how that goes over here.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 05:35 PM (oFCZn)

297 292. Sandy burger

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:36 PM (HPNED)

298 289 As one with Irish ancestry .....LOL.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 05:36 PM (ojnk6)

299 286 Actually an award is not taxable. The lawyers cut may be.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 05:37 PM (6bMeY)

300 Speaking of Corzine, who was the guy that hid archival records in his pants, some Clinton high-up, can't recall his name. Sandy Berger

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 05:37 PM (t3UFN)

301 299. Sweet!!! I need to sue someone

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:38 PM (HPNED)

302 #289 (This joke has to be spoken, not written.) Hear about the Amish girl who was excommunicated? Too Mennonite (two men a night.)

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 27, 2014 05:38 PM (/cUUk)

303 Sandy Berger. And arguing semantics is beneath you all. It's bullshit. Bottom line: the guy has issues and skeletons and is No Good. I don't give a rat's ass if he's guilty or not. He's damaged goods.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 05:38 PM (tyz5J)

304 who was the guy that hid archival records in his pants,

Sandy Burglar (Berger)


Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:38 PM (4JkHl)

305 266 Also, PW, my mother is a somewhat rich widow. I am just reluctant to ask for her help. Don't want to impose on her and don't want the siblings to feel I am exploiting her.

Posted by: Mindy at February 27, 2014 05:38 PM (RMfGb)

306 Here's the story: North Carolina Republican Senate hopeful Greg Brannon was found to have misled investors to put money into a start-up technology company, a jury decided Tuesday. In 2010, Brannon, a doctor who is running under the banner of the tea party, was sued by Lawrence Piazza and Salvatore Lampuri, both of whom invested in a start-up technology company that Brannon promoted and served on the board of. The two allege that Brannon and his partner, Robert Rice, misled them into believing that Verizon was considering including the new technology being made by the company in its then-unreleased Droid phones. That never happened, and the talks with Verizon were allegedly about an advertising deal. Piazza and Lampuri invested $250,000 in the company, and were suing Brannon and Rice to get it back. ------------------------ Brannon only represented to the investors what had been represented to him. There was no evidence of 'Fraud', certainly not 'Stock fraud', as asserted by Nip. And in the end, there was no 'conviction', Brannon was found to be liable for the investors for their losses.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 05:39 PM (aDwsi)

307 305. Meant to add that we'll be okay.

Posted by: Mindy at February 27, 2014 05:39 PM (RMfGb)

308 303 Sandy Berger. And arguing semantics is beneath you all. It's bullshit. Bottom line: the guy has issues and skeletons and is No Good. I don't give a rat's ass if he's guilty or not. He's damaged goods. Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 10:38 PM (tyz5J) Nip Sip's repeated claim that Brannon was "convicted" is the bullshit here.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 05:40 PM (UAMVq)

309 You put an damned ugly spin on it because you have a political agenda, that not all here share. Your GOP establishment turd, at the expense of someone likely better. Like it couldn't happen to Tillis. Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 10:32 PM (4Mv1T) TR, Tillis has been VETTED. He has been an elected official for over TEN years. If he had any hidden problems, I assure you the democrats would have exposed them long time ago. So no, it could not happen to Tillis I don't know why exposing a liar is an ugly spin. I was called out, obviously many people don't know about Brannon's dishonest actions. I am sorry he's not what a lot of my friends thought he was, better we found out NOW, then in the general election. I think Tillis is the only candidate that can beat Hagan, which should be FIRST GOAL.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 05:40 PM (0FSuD)

310 The squeaky queen gets all the grease. Or something like that.

Posted by: Teh Ghey Mafia at February 27, 2014 05:40 PM (Dwehj)

311 since it was civil

why didn't he settle? Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 10:35 PM (zOTsN)



Yup.   Look, it's really damn easy for me to tell people what to do with their own money, but I would support the contention that being so fucking stupid as to not settle a pending CIVIL (for those in the back of the class) fraud suit with iron clad NDAs in the settlement prior to running for Senate disqualifies one because stupid.


Remember, folks, lawyers can get you judgments.  What you want is money.  Those are not the same thing.  

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 05:41 PM (Gk3SS)

312 I once had a sandy burger at the beach.

Posted by: The lame punster at February 27, 2014 05:41 PM (/cUUk)

313 A Utah Mormon was seated next to an Irish Catholic on a flight back to the States from London. After the plane was airborne, drink orders were taken.

The Irishman asked for a whiskey and a glass of Guinness, which were promptly brought and placed before him.

The flight attendant then asked the Mormon if he would like a drink.
He replied in disgust, "I'd rather be savagely raped by a dozen whores than let liquor touch my lips."

The Irishman then handed his drinks back to the attendant and said, "Me too, I didn't know we had a choice."

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No Irishman would drink airplane Guinness, the pressure alone would render it off.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:41 PM (4JkHl)

314 " I don't give a rat's ass if he's guilty or not. He's damaged goods." --------- Karl Rove and party send you their thanks, Komrade.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 05:41 PM (ojnk6)

315 303 -

I would argue that you are misusing the word "semantics," but that would be,  more or less, semantics. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:41 PM (BeSEI)

316 Donald Duck:  I didn't say she is insane, I said she's fucking Goofy.

Posted by: CMU VET at February 27, 2014 05:41 PM (ejB0r)

317 Sam Clovis.com IA can beat Bruce Braley D Iowa for Harkins open seat if carpet bagger crony capitalist Mark Jacobs doesn't buy the primary win. Sam could use the help as Crony Capitalist moves into state to buy a senate seat.

Posted by: Concealedkerry Behind Northern agression enemy lines at February 27, 2014 05:41 PM (LjjnQ)

318 #307 I'm okay, you need to seek professional help.

Posted by: My book title at February 27, 2014 05:43 PM (/cUUk)

319 315 Are you Antisemantic?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 27, 2014 05:43 PM (6bMeY)

320 318 #307 I'm okay, you need to seek professional help.

Posted by: My book title at February 27, 2014 10:43 PM (/cUUk)



srsly, do not piss Peaches off.  wtf is that all about?

Posted by: Peaches at February 27, 2014 05:43 PM (8lmkt)

321 Am I the only one here who thinks that there's a decent possibility Nip has a point, but has completely poisoned the well?


I'm not convinced, but looking past her or his hyperbole, there may be a legitimate complaint about the candidate.  NC is purple.  Whether or not Nip has adult communication issues may need to be set aside to ensure that NC morons, and the people they have some influence over don't grease the skids for another dem by advancing a toxic candidate.  It's still February, so unless you're sleeping with a candidate there's time to do all that without this ridiculous hyperbolic accusation.


In April, get the knives out.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 05:44 PM (AaZLR)

322 The problem is Nip, that we've been playing that game for too long.  Why doesn't Tillis show some backbone and throw Lindsey under the bus, or commit to not supporting McConnell as majority leader?

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 05:45 PM (4JkHl)

323 Mike Hammer, good one.

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 05:45 PM (sOtz/)

324 How many lawyers can dance on the head of a pin? Just a rhetorical question, really, but inspired by certain commonalities between this thread and a previous one.

Posted by: filbert at February 27, 2014 05:46 PM (roTS7)

325 This is what boredom and frustration wroughts. Go punch a fucking clown or something.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 05:46 PM (tyz5J)

326 Ont up

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 27, 2014 05:46 PM (HPNED)

327
srsly, do not piss Peaches off. wtf is that all about?
Posted by: Peaches
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It's a sock, troll, or possible non-sentient being.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 27, 2014 05:46 PM (4Mv1T)

328 Brannon only represented to the investors what had been represented to him. There was no evidence of 'Fraud', certainly not 'Stock fraud', as asserted by Nip. And in the end, there was no 'conviction', Brannon was found to be liable for the investors for their losses. Posted by: Mike Hammer thank you still if he has political aspirations, why didn't he settle?

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 05:47 PM (zOTsN)

329 Am I the only one here who thinks that there's a decent possibility Nip has a point, but has completely poisoned the well?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 27, 2014 10:44 PM (AaZLR)


Sure.  Go ahead and pithily restate my tl;dr.   It's fine.   No.   Really, it is.

*sniffle*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 27, 2014 05:47 PM (Gk3SS)

330 Peaches, I took it as just a lame free-association joke. I don't think it was meant maliciously. But I sure do love you and appreciate your fierce devotion to the Horde.

Posted by: Mindy at February 27, 2014 05:47 PM (RMfGb)

331 #319 No, just anti-semenic, said the lesbian.

Posted by: The lame punster at February 27, 2014 05:47 PM (/cUUk)

332 Brannon only represented to the investors what had been represented to him. There was no evidence of 'Fraud', certainly not 'Stock fraud', as asserted by Nip. And in the end, there was no 'conviction', Brannon was found to be liable for the investors for their losses. NO, that is not the case. The jury found that Brannon made up the statements, he lied. That was the entire case. Brannon lied about who was going to buy the product. Did any of you all read the stories I linked? Seriously? Fraud is the misleading of investors, check. The investors bought stock on that information, AKA stock fraud, check. Conviction, being found guilty, check Why are you even making a justification for this man, who also forgets to pay his property tax?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 05:48 PM (0FSuD)

333 321 -

No, you're not the only one.   I never heard of the  guy before a few minutes ago, but I can see it's pretty clear  it would be a bad idea to nominate this guy. 

But  if it takes lies to get there, and if one has to impugn the entire Tea Party movement to make one's case,  you're  going to get some push-back. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:48 PM (BeSEI)

334 All of you wingnuts are lying.... All of you

Posted by: Hairy Reid at February 27, 2014 05:48 PM (jucos)

335 #287: Okay, no problem. Let's let the matter rest for now, since any further discussion should probably be done over the phone, anyway.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 05:49 PM (/96QU)

336
You forgot the Democratic seat of Lindsey Graham.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 27, 2014 05:50 PM (gorVZ)

337 322 The problem is Nip, that we've been playing that game for too long. Why doesn't Tillis show some backbone and throw Lindsey under the bus, or commit to not supporting McConnell as majority leader? Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 10:45 PM (4JkHl) I don't disagree. One day at a time. You can not pick fights with a Sen from other states till you are a Senator. Is Tillis better than Hagan? You want to stop Obama's Supreme court nominees? I'll vote for the R every time.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 05:51 PM (0FSuD)

338 Many knickers in twists on this thread. And thin skins.

Posted by: Is this usual for a Thursday night? at February 27, 2014 05:51 PM (/cUUk)

339 #305 & 307: Okay, that's good to hear.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 05:52 PM (/96QU)

340 if he has political aspirations, why didn't he settle? Posted by: thunderb ----------------- It is my understanding that he *did* try to settle. Why it did not work out, I do not know... "..he offered to cash in his 401K to cover their losses. (The former friends — now plaintiffs — reportedly refused the offer, according to court documents.)" http://dailyhaymaker.com/?p=7201

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 05:52 PM (aDwsi)

341 >>>A conviction is a guilty verdict. A crook is defined as one that is dishonest. A jury of 12 found Mr. Brannon to be dishonest. They found him guilty, and interestingly only he guilty, not his co defendant. They found he mislead, that would be lied, to his investors and fraudulently took their money.

Nothing quite like watching an idiot double down on his idiocy.

Brannon was not in criminal court, he was in civil court. Civil juries do not find defendants guilty. Every time you say that he was found guilty, you, Nip Sip, are telling a lie.

He was found *liable*. That word has a different meaning than the word guilty. He will not be sentenced to prison. Unless he wins on appeal, he will be responsible for repaying the investors who claim that they were misled by Brannon.

Does it mean nothing that he has this civil judgement against him? No, it raises serious questions about his integrity and suitableness for public office. But there is no need for anyone to run around lying about him to suggest that he is a convicted criminal. He is not.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 27, 2014 05:52 PM (IN7k+)

342 @321 Always smear with precision. A civil verdict is less toxic than a criminal conviction. You may have a point. I don't know the candidates or North Carolina politics.

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 05:53 PM (sOtz/)

343 More from the Daily Haymaker: "Brannon did not get popped for fraud, like so many trolls out there are trying to suggest. The plaintiffs wanted someone to reimburse them for their investment, and the court determined — rightly or wrongly — that it is up to Brannon to do so." My emphasis

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 05:54 PM (aDwsi)

344 It is my understanding that he *did* try to settle. Why it did not work out, I do not know... "..he offered to cash in his 401K to cover their losses. (The former friends — now plaintiffs — reportedly refused the offer, according to court documents.)" http://dailyhaymaker.com/?p=7201 Posted by: Mike Hammer ok so, why not I wonder? Were they hoping to get more blood from that turnip? Or was it politically motivated? Were they encouraged not to settle by political operatives?

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 05:54 PM (zOTsN)

345 "Piazza and Lampuri invested $250,000 in the company, and were suing Brannon and Rice to get it back."

Fuckin' due diligence. How does it work?

Would have loved to have been on that jury.

Let's see, you guys threw down 250 large on someone's _verbal representation_ about the bright prospects of a particular company, without doing any further homework on said prospects?

Bailiff! Bailiff! Inform whomever it is in the jury room to stop laughing at the top of their lungs and making rude fart sounds!

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 05:55 PM (gqT4g)

346 Never underestimate the GOPs ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. 

Posted by: Seipherd at February 27, 2014 05:57 PM (1etLu)

347 343 -

Exactly.  It boils down  the difference between "it looks like Verizon might be on board with this," and "Verizon is on board with this." 

Was he deliberately misleading?  Overzealous?  Just plain mistaken? 

None of that was shown.  Merely that his statements were misleading, and he owes his investors  what they gave him, plus interest.


Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 05:57 PM (BeSEI)

348 of maybe they were just so damned mad that a friend ripped them off, that they would rather ruin him since they figured they would never get their money back a judgment is not money

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 05:57 PM (zOTsN)

349 Yeah, sometimes investments don't work out. You pays your money and you takes your chances. If every failed investment constituted a tort, I'd have had cause to sue the company handling my 401(k) several years ago when the stock market took a dive and didn't recover until Baghdad Ben started pumping imaginary money into it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at February 27, 2014 06:01 PM (/96QU)

350 sounds like friends trusted him and lost a ton and now they are mad and would rather ruin him than get a few cents on the dollar its like Animal House You fucked up. You trusted us.

Posted by: thunderb at February 27, 2014 06:05 PM (zOTsN)

351 Back up.  The Democrats have pulled out of NC.  The Unions have pulled out of all of the South. So, yeah polling is not looking good for them.  However, if Republicans continue to brace the suck of amnesty they will be lucky to keep the House, much less take the Senate.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 07:00 PM (T2V/1)

352 Yeah you keep thinkin that. You keep hoping. Remember in 2012 when the GOP might on an outside chance take the Senate, but was sure to gain a bunch of seats? Oh yeah that worked out great huh?
What will get blamed when it doesn;t happen this time I wonder. A storm? Some congressman who stumbles over his words in an interview? The eeeevil social conservatives? Anything but admitting the truth of our electoral system.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 27, 2014 07:56 PM (zfY+H)

353 "An enemy with a wound can slink off. One with a half-dozen or more will be dead on the field barring a dramatic rescue."

The GOP are pretty good at being medics for the Democrats.

Posted by: Norcross at February 28, 2014 04:39 AM (tmDTL)

354 "It would begin in the states even the Democrats admit are becoming tough holds: West Virginia" WTF, again? Dem state will vote Dem, as it has for 150 years. Duh.

Posted by: anon a mouse at February 28, 2014 04:55 AM (gXRIG)

355 So what? So a few Republicans (usually Rinos) will move from ranking minority member to committee chairmen? They still won't have 60 seats to overcome a veto so what's the big deal? Read will simply filibuster any bill that would be embarrassing for his Highness to veto. What am I missing here?

Posted by: Whitey99 at February 28, 2014 04:59 AM (TRkgs)

356 #165 Did you read the story?

He was convicted of civil FRAUD, the stealing of $250,000 from his former classmates.

The court ordered him to repay that money.

He is a convicted crook, by the decision of a jury.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 27, 2014 10:03 PM (0FSuD)

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The operative word is "civil".  He was sued and lost, he was not convicted of anything.  If he stole the money, why wasn't he charged with a crime?

You are either completely ignorant of the law, or a liar.

(I never heard of the guy, and live on the west coast, so I have no dog in the fight.)


Posted by: jbarntt at February 28, 2014 05:00 PM (UNFot)

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