October 22, 2013

Afternoon Open Thread
— DrewM

A short respite from ObamaCare.


Ok break's over.

There are some people who are still freaking out over the supposed damage from the shutdown to the GOP's 2014 prospects.

Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century?

If the shutdown does more harm to the GOP than ObamaCare does to Democrats, the GOP has much bigger issues than anything conservatives can say or do.

Posted by: DrewM at 10:10 AM | Comments (424)
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1 But what about the gaaaafes?

Posted by: wooga at October 22, 2013 10:11 AM (2PFRe)

2 heh... No Drew.. it's the same media meme... pound on the GOP... find a RINO to help... pound pound pound.

Posted by: Yip at October 22, 2013 10:12 AM (/jHWN)

3 FIRST!!!!!!!!

Posted by: southdakotaboy at October 22, 2013 10:12 AM (Baypg)

4 The only long term significance of the shut down is that it let all the LIVs know that Ted Cruz is, apparently, Satan incarnate.

Posted by: wooga at October 22, 2013 10:13 AM (2PFRe)

5 >Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century?<



Not in my house.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 22, 2013 10:13 AM (KjlbF)

6 The GOPs problem in a nutshell: When stated in neutral terms most Americans agree with conservative positions. When stated in MSM terms, most Americans agree with leftist positions.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:13 AM (sByIH)

7 It probably won't be a big deal come 2014, so long as they don't continue to engage in more such clusterfuckery.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 10:13 AM (SY2Kh)

8

Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century?

If the shutdown does more harm to the GOP than ObamaCare does, the GOP has much bigger issues than anything conservatives can say or do.

Posted by: DrewM. at 03:10 PM             RINO SOBs like Rubio will end up saving obama's ass on this.  They will try to work the bugs out. 

Posted by: Havedash at October 22, 2013 10:14 AM (BRhGr)

9 As I've been saying for a long time (like a week), this time next year no one is going to remember anything about clean CRs or debt limits or any of that other minutiae. But they are going to see what a CF Obamacare is, and remember that the Republicans shut down the government for 2 weeks trying to stop it. That is a win, not a loss.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 22, 2013 10:15 AM (uIG35)

10 Amnesty is coming

All those "natural conservatives" to supposedly make up for the miniscule conservatives that will stay away in 2014

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:15 AM (aTXUx)

11 There was a shutdown?


Posted by: dananjcon at October 22, 2013 10:16 AM (wmU4G)

12 But they are going to see what a CF Obamacare is, and remember that the Republicans shut down the government for 2 weeks trying to stop it. That is a win, not a loss.

I'm afraid that your confidence in the electorate at large is unwarranted.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 10:16 AM (SY2Kh)

13 But.. but.. the parks were closed!!1!

Those guys and gals with the smokey the bear hats had to deal with those crazy Rethuglikans instead of taking care of Bambi and leading the children on nature walks!  Think about the children!!!1!!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 22, 2013 10:16 AM (f9c2L)

14 "If the shutdown does more harm to the GOP than ObamaCare does to Democrats, the GOP has much bigger issues than anything conservatives can say or do."

This.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 22, 2013 10:17 AM (aX41Q)

15

pound pound pound

 

That's hot.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 22, 2013 10:17 AM (NF2Bf)

16 All my gay friends can get healthcare now, and who wants to be friends with icky teabaggers!

Go Hillary!

Posted by: Meghan McCain at October 22, 2013 10:17 AM (aTXUx)

17 Glitches, kinks and bugs are racist!

Posted by: Chaos, it the other dark meat at October 22, 2013 10:18 AM (oDCMR)

18 Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century?

We've got this.

Posted by: MFM at October 22, 2013 10:18 AM (/kI1Q)

19 The only long term significance of the shut down is that it let all the LIVs know that Ted Cruz is, apparently, Satan incarnate.

That's crazy talk.

Unlike Ted Cruz, Satan has a long term plan.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 10:18 AM (SY2Kh)

20 Chi-Town Jerry at October 22, 2013 03:16 PM (f9c2L)

Aren't they more into shooting Bambi at this point?

Posted by: Flyguy at October 22, 2013 10:18 AM (4eLZN)

21 My friends, you have nothing to fear from a Pelosi Speakership

Posted by: John McCain at October 22, 2013 10:19 AM (aTXUx)

22 { heh... No Drew.. it's the same media meme... pound on the GOP... find a RINO to help... pound pound pound. Posted by: Yip at October 22, 2013 03:12 PM (/jHWN)} ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No the leftwing press went to far in this time. The average LIV doesn't remember alot, but they will remember that the GOP warned everyone about this and that they tried to stop it. People don't like being told they are wrong and will listen to the lies they want to hear as long as things go well, but they will turn on a politician like a pack of wild dogs when the good times stop because the politician "lied" to them. That is the message the GOP needs to pivot to now "Obama lied to you!"

Posted by: southdakotaboy at October 22, 2013 10:19 AM (Baypg)

23 7 It probably won't be a big deal come 2014, so long as they don't continue to engage in more such clusterfuckery.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 03:13 PM (SY2Kh)

 

 

 

 

So the establishment approved message is, sit down, shut up, and stop ruining the GOP's good name and credibility?

Posted by: Havedash at October 22, 2013 10:20 AM (BRhGr)

24 If the shutdown does more harm to the GOP than ObamaCare does to Democrats, the GOP has much bigger issues than anything conservatives can say or do. Guess what, it will and it does.

Posted by: Call me Ishmael at October 22, 2013 10:20 AM (O7OxF)

25 If the shutdown does more harm to the GOP than ObamaCare does, the GOP has much bigger issues than anything conservatives can say or do.

It remains to be seen how much hay the Dems intend to make over it during the elections, but the problem for them is that the debt limit is back in Feb. Same debate but the GOP is not going to take another run at shutdown. So the ability to politicize the issue is limited.

However, yes, the GOP does have much bigger issues. They haven't made any effort to get outside the Left's counter-branding of the GOP as the party of the Wrong and Evil.

If the GOP candidates sit back and allow the Dems to continue assign white hats and black hats, it's status quo for the foreseeable.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 22, 2013 10:20 AM (cb5D2)

26

Will the shutdown hurt the GOP?

 

No, don't be silly, of course not. 

 

The fact that the GOP will be running Republican  candidates in all these races will hurt  the GOP.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2013 10:20 AM (TOk1P)

27 Can we please take a break from dumping on Ted Cruz?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 22, 2013 10:20 AM (23Kgq)

28 The biggest damage that the shutdown did was distracting attention from the Obamacare epic fail. Now that O doesn't have the shutdown to use for cover, the Healthcare.gov disaster is becoming impossible to ignore, as attested to by his ShamWow infomercial yesterday.

Posted by: Hayabusa at October 22, 2013 10:20 AM (659DL)

29 GOP has problems but blaming it on the Shutdown is like blaming O-care websites on the GOP.

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 10:21 AM (3ZtZW)

30 These new 404care ads should go over well with the populace. Hey, your rates went up over 100 percent.. but remember you're helping these children keep their beer money. http://tinyurl.com/kbqvsc4 I would like to thank Colorado Consumer Health Initiative and ProgressNow Colorado Education for such spectacular optics.

Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 10:21 AM (fWAjv)

31 It occurred to me the RINO's and media are saying how bad the O-Care roll-out news is, if not for the #shutdown or #defund efforts, this would have been the case all along.

How about noticing that all the O-Care news is SO bad, that it has eclipsed the shutdown/defund bad news cycle AND the conservatives in the House and Senate got the message out there that they wanted this shit shut down because it was a shit-sandwich and the media, the Democrats and the RINO's all crawled out on limbs to heckle them.

So now the MSM is stuck , after bashing the TP and conservative critics of O-Care for the last 6 weeks in running stories about just how bad it really is and there is no hiding that this administration is flubbing it and lying.  Hmm.

I think conservatives and the TP is in a much stronger position going into '14 and '16.   That's my positive take on it all...  you guys...  vanilla bean.

Posted by: Yip at October 22, 2013 10:21 AM (/jHWN)

32 People are slowly awakening to the fact that they will be paying the price of a loaded Bentley for a a rusted out wrecked Yugo with regards to health health insurance--so that the FSAs can have free health insurance and still get their medical care at the ER. They know the FSA are not suddenly going to be savvy consumers of medical care and wellness initiative. A class of people who won't take blood pressure meds, or manage their diabetes, or mitigate their risk of acquiring STDs just are not not going to make make good use of their new insurance.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at October 22, 2013 10:21 AM (IGa8u)

33 Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 22, 2013 03:17 PM (aX41Q But the GOP has bigger issues. So we're boned then.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 10:21 AM (GaqMa)

34 Makes sense that some buffoon atclownhall.com would be whingeing about teh eeeeeeevil shutdown.

The only thing missing was the usual Poppin' Fresh squishy pile of shit about how bad the "optics" are because Ted Cruz didn't play along with Conservative Stalwarts like Bitch McConnell and Chee-to Boner.

Our biggest enemy -- after Choom Boy himself -- are the Jonah Goldbergs, "Captain" Morrisseys and their spineless brethren. President Historic First© wants to destroy us, while the worthless eunuchs supposedly on our side only want to keep their Blogger's Row spots as the country is destroyed.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 22, 2013 10:21 AM (kaGpp)

35 Show the average LIV pictures of their present senators and congressthingies

They won't know who they are

Show them a pic of a burned out former olympian..

Oh, that's Kim Kardashian's step-father!!

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:21 AM (aTXUx)

36 That is the message the GOP needs to pivot to now "Obama lied to you!"

Change that to "The Democrats lied to you!"

Obama isn't running for office again.  Ever.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 10:21 AM (SY2Kh)

37
That shutdown scared me.

Posted by: EITC Scammer at October 22, 2013 10:22 AM (ufpPl)

38 "If the shutdown does more harm to the GOP than ObamaCare does to Democrats, the GOP has much bigger issues than anything conservatives can say or do."

The fundamental problem the GOP have are the establishment/trougher wing who routinely pillory and rubbish anyone else inside the party who dares suggest that an opposition party should actually, y'know, _oppose_ the incumbent party.

Democrats don't really have that problem.

Someone asked a trivia question, could any of us name a prominent Democrat who spoke repeatedly and forcefully against the rest of the Democratic Party during the George W. Bush years?

I said instantly, Zell Miller.

Except the Democratic Party in Georgia made it very clear to Miller that it would be a total waste of his time trying to stand for re-election, and Miller is out of politics now. That's what strong, unified parties which are determined to win do.

Whereas the GOP continues to robotically re-elect the likes of McQueeg and Miss Lindsey and Peter Jowls-Falling-Off-Face King.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2013 10:22 AM (gqT4g)

39
Rand Paul kicks DC in the nuts.

"The Kentucky freshman Republican has introduced a constitutional amendment that would preclude senators and representatives from passing laws that don’t apply equally to U.S. citizens and Congress, the executive branch and the Supreme Court."

Posted by: Never quit at October 22, 2013 10:22 AM (bkTIc)

40 If Obamacare gets delayed, THEN one would expect it to be trumpeted loudly and long that the refusal to delay Obamacare is what caused the shutdown, and was proven to be the right course of action.  Dem fault.

Posted by: P Mike at October 22, 2013 10:22 AM (85pVD)

41 No one will remember the Gov Shutdown. So much can and will change in 13 months. SMOD might even decide to visit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2013 10:22 AM (t3UFN)

42 The only people I have seen doing my link posting who are claiming the shutdown will hurt the GOP are the liberal papers and Democrats .  They did the same shit in 96.  There was no impact.  They are doing the same shit now.


It is pure spin trying to set up the crap.  99% of the population did not give a shit in 96 and they don't give a shit now.  By 2014 they will have forgotten it while watching the tube.


What will hurt the Republican more than anything is if they fall for this amnesty shit from their overpaid consultants and asshole "leaders".

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2013 10:22 AM (zZbNF)

43 Even Jon Stewart had to admit that O-care is a disaster, and there is none, no, zero way it can possibly be spun onto the GOP.  Like Drew said, if this somehow hurts the GOP worse than the Dems, there's nothing we can do at this point to correct it.  Just get someone out there every day from the GOP, preferably someone not labeled as a bomb-thrower previously (Jindal?), to hammer home that this is all on Pelosi, Obama and Reid, it passed with 0 (R) votes, and that free-market solutions are the only way that health care costs will actually go down.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2013 10:22 AM (sQ0LB)

44 BTW gang, sorry I missed my own thread . I had no control over it's timing. And the Mrs. is sick, so I'm playing nurse today. But for those asking "tsrblke" isn't even "too cute" (to quote OSP) It's just my first and second initials followed by my last name with some vowels and an extra "b" removed. I wasn't that creative when I came up with it at the age of like 9 or 10, and I'm too lazy to create something new.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 10:23 AM (GaqMa)

45 Barack Obama (WSJ)

“...no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what. My view is that health care reform should be guided by a simple principle: fix what’s broken and build on what works.” WSJ/ Obama address to the AMA 6/15/2009
LINK: http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvlz5h

Posted by: mrp at October 22, 2013 10:24 AM (HjPtV)

46 Binders Against Wymminz

Ted Cruz! Sarah Palin! Rush Limbaugh! Koch Brothers!!!

Don't forget teh RAAAAACISSSMMMM

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:24 AM (aTXUx)

47 > That's my positive take on it all... you guys... vanilla bean.<<



Word.  Its like when Ace said yesterday he wanted bland, non-controversial, vanilla and boring, he was looking right at me with those beady little Ewok eyes.  "Muad'dib, you aren't often interesting - and even when you are you can't write very well.  I really need you this week."   Aye, aye Boss.  Reporting for duty.  Except when I have to work.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 22, 2013 10:24 AM (KjlbF)

48 Goddamnit....

even my son gets it...

Dad why does Marco Rubio want to help Obama?

Democrats want to fuck a football at 1500 RPM....

Conservatives would rather not fuck a football

In comes the McCain gang to say "let's not argue over tactics kids...we'll fuck the football at 1300 RPM....

Hey RNC a disagreement over whether to fuck the football or not being settled by giving donkey 65% of his goals is a disagreement over goal not tactics you cocksuckers.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 10:24 AM (9jfyN)

49 >>I would like to thank Colorado Consumer Health Initiative and ProgressNow Colorado Education for such spectacular optics.

Hadn't seen those ads, but the ones where they liken the Colorado exchange site as winning in Vegas are just awful. Yeah, sure, everyone's a winner, just like with Powerball and scratch tickets.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2013 10:25 AM (JRmiD)

50

44 -

 

Thaddeus Stevens  Rubberlake? 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2013 10:25 AM (TOk1P)

51 I could get rich selling whatever drugs that Townhall dude is on. 

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 22, 2013 10:26 AM (l5zzX)

52 Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century? **** You must be new around here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 10:26 AM (DmNpO)

53 I agree.  I think anyone who doesn't see the big plus that the shutdown was either overestimates the info-level of average Americans, or went to the David Axelrod Institute for Advanced Astroturfing.

Posted by: @ParisParamus at October 22, 2013 10:27 AM (gYzAr)

54 So the establishment approved message is, sit down, shut up, and stop ruining the GOP's good name and credibility?

No, it's "Stop doing stupid shit"

The shutdown was a clusterfuck.  There was no real plan, strategy, or chance of success, unless you count the Ted Cruz's heightened profile as a win.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 10:27 AM (SY2Kh)

55 Drew, remember that video last night with the woman interviewing college students about the Holocaust?

Well, imagine what those same students believe about the shutdown.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 10:27 AM (kcfmt)

56

@6 The GOPs problem in a nutshell: When stated in neutral terms most Americans agree with conservative positions. When stated in MSM terms, most Americans agree with leftist positions.

---------------

 

Nah.  The *real* GOP problem -

 

When a polling company asked people if they liked a particular budget plan without identifying the source, people agreed with it.  When a polling company asked people if they liked the exact same budget plan and identified it as a Republican plan (iirc, it was Ryan's plan), people disagreed with it.

 

Posted by: junior at October 22, 2013 10:27 AM (UWFpX)

57 >>Barack Obama (WSJ)

He was so obviously making up sh$t as he went along his Obamacare campaign. Greedy doctors! This will magically save money while giving you more!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2013 10:27 AM (JRmiD)

58 While Congressional Republicans are in Florida, the Democrats will "examine" the ACA rollout. Congress will shut down on Thursday, and leaders have told lawmakers the Defense Department will fly them to Florida for the funeral of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, who died late last week. The House’s hearing examining the health exchange rollout will continue as planned, however. -- Washington Times

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 22, 2013 10:27 AM (MhA4j)

59 Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2013 03:25 PM (JRmiD) Found more of them. http://tinyurl.com/kf3rduo I for one am glad I get to subsidize a mountain climbers health insurance.

Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 10:28 AM (fWAjv)

60

First!

 

Well, maybe not but I just wanted to point out that its not a big deal, unless you really are. Then you get a platinum AoS HQ Diamond Club exclusive membership that comes with the free wooketttes and unlimited val-u-rite rations.

Posted by: Gmac - pondering the coming implosion, and boy howdy is it going to be a doozy at October 22, 2013 10:28 AM (4pjhs)

61 Hey, your rates went up over 100 percent.. but remember you're helping these children keep their beer money.

The problem is we're outnumbered by those children.  Maybe not "bros" specifically but certainly by people who prefer you pay for their "healthcare[sic]" so they can spend their money on entertainment.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 10:28 AM (/kI1Q)

62 I would like to thank Colorado Consumer Health Initiative and ProgressNow Colorado Education for such spectacular optics.

Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 03:21 PM (fWAjv)

 

The thing I find most fascinating about these exercises in idiocy from Progess Now Colorado is that they're actively pimping high risk lifestyles,   things   that  the    federal gubmint --    aka, "The Fucksticks Running Obamacare For Obama" --    spend a significant amount of time and money trying to reduce.       

 

I'm surprised they don't have one out that shows some dumb frat kid getting stoned on a big fat    doobie.      After all,   this     IS Colorado.    "Damn, getting a job would be suuuuuch a buzzkill.  Good thing I've got Obamacare!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:28 AM (4df7R)

63 Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2013 03:25 PM (TOk1P) No. (Although you're closer than I'd like to admit on the last name actually.....It's German and in it's original form we had an umlaut in there but it got lost on the boat.) I've had the same username for like 15+ years now, creative googling of it and various social networks pretty much unmasks me . (I'm not as good as hiding as ace.) The charade is just to make it harder for people in my field to stumble upon some of my accounts. (Being conservative is offensive to academics.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 10:28 AM (GaqMa)

64 Butter pecan.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 10:28 AM (h1D+w)

65 Any shutdown impact will be a soon forgotten blip. 

Obamacare will be a developing case Dengue Fever.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 22, 2013 10:28 AM (l5zzX)

66 The LIV's probably won't remember the shutdown

But DNC ads will remind them constantly with pics of police tape across that Washington Monument that was "caused by Ted Cruz and insurgent tea party republicans!!"

Shit, look who most of the populace blamed for those closed parks and other shutoffs of government entities

It wasn't Obama

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:29 AM (aTXUx)

67

The shutdown was a clusterfuck. There was no real plan, strategy, or chance of success, unless you count the Ted Cruz's heightened profile as a win.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 03:27 PM (SY2Kh

 

As long as he's espousing conservative values and practicing what he preaches, that is a win.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2013 10:29 AM (sQ0LB)

68 Well, imagine what those same students believe about the shutdown. **** What shutdown?

Posted by: Average College Student at October 22, 2013 10:29 AM (DmNpO)

69 43 Conservative Crank at October 22, 2013 03:22 PM (sQ0LB)

Jesus Christ though Crank and I do not often invoke the Son of the creator...

how the high fuck can this be "our fault?"

We did not cast a single vote for the clusterfuck, we were denied any oversight, we were told "fuck you Nanzi said we can do what we want" by SCOAMFG... Matt "Buttplug" Yglesias said it was all systems go....

if somehow the media manages to turn this into the "GOP wants to keep your from paradise" we either need to horsewhisper some newsies or make plans to run like hell because at that point we're living in "Children of the Corn."

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 10:29 AM (9jfyN)

70 "The shutdown was a clusterfuck. There was no real plan, strategy, or chance of success, unless you count the Ted Cruz's heightened profile as a win.'

That kind of analysis has brought the Republican Party to its knees. Out of touch, out of tune, and out of the White House.

Posted by: mrp at October 22, 2013 10:29 AM (HjPtV)

71 My theory is that the LIVs don't listen to anything the MSM says, and don't really care about shutdowns in the abstract.  There is just a bunch of noise coming from DC, and they want the annoying noise to stop so they can go back to their LOLcats.

But they do notice things that impact them directly.  Take away one of their garbage days, and they will swarm the city council to scream bloody murder.

So what are they likely to notice?  I'm pretty sure that they will notice that they are paying more for health insurance for a plan that now has a deductible that it didn't have before.  Or they will notice that their health plan has been dropped and they are having to go through a nightmare to find a replacement that costs double.  Or they will notice that they just got hit with a 1% tax for not signing up for health insurance.

The MSM can't spin things that affect you personally.  Just like all of the GOP ads that $1B could buy, couldn't convince people getting food stamps and free phones to vote for sanity.

So we will see, but I don't like the Democrat chances here.  It comes down to whether women voters are more concerned about their out of pocket costs or the threat that they won't be able to abort a baby if they get pregnant.

To be fair, the VA Gov race is showing that abortion on demand is the most important thing to a lot of women, though.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 22, 2013 10:29 AM (aX41Q)

72 No worries, Rubio is going to keep fucking things up as best he can. Even though there's a blog called the other McCain, Marco is the New McCain. Rotten little bastard.

Posted by: The FSA at October 22, 2013 10:30 AM (ixf9H)

73

54 -

 

And yet your party did it.  You really are dense sometimes.  You are wallowing in the swine pen,  and you keep pointing  at  the pigs who smell like poop.

 

I am amazed at your ability  to be that far removed from reality.  Truly, you are a demigod. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2013 10:30 AM (TOk1P)

74
Amnesty is a human right, and borders should be opened for one and all to exploit the proletariat and live the American dream on the backs of the ignorant tax paying public. 

Posted by: Bob Beckel at October 22, 2013 10:30 AM (pJF+c)

75

The country is going to WAY more f*cked by next November than now. So much, that nobody will remember there even was a shutdown.

We've got that to look forward to.

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 10:30 AM (VndSC)

76 Almost 91,000,000 Americans (16 and older) not in workforce. http://tinyurl.com/l8wq7mg Opening paragraph: "The number of Americans who are 16 years or older and who have decided not to participate in the nation's labor force has climbed to a record 90,609,000 in September, according to data released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics." DECIDED NOT TO PARTICIPATE?!?!?!?! *rage strokes and collapses twitching to the floor*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 22, 2013 10:30 AM (da5Wo)

77 >>Found more of them.  http://tinyurl.com/kf3rduo

Wow, racist much? Single, white guys doing adventure stuff and Latinas with kids. Gotcha.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2013 10:31 AM (JRmiD)

78 As I've been saying for a long time (like a week), this time next year no one is going to remember anything about clean CRs or debt limits or any of that other minutiae. But they are going to see what a CF Obamacare is, and remember that the Republicans shut down the government for 2 weeks trying to stop it. That is a win, not a loss.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 22, 2013 03:15 PM ..THIS!!!!!!!!! With a cherry on top!

Posted by: The FSA at October 22, 2013 10:31 AM (ixf9H)

79 There was no shutdown playing on x-box.

QED

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 22, 2013 10:31 AM (l5zzX)

80 The other thing is that the GOP really coulda/shoulda done a lot more with during the shutdown was to point out that, gosh, look, the government is shut down, and yet somehow, nevertheless, life goes on. And in fact for most people in most of the country, life is perfectly feasible and pleasant without Fedzilla.

Young voters love snark. Give them snark. Post a bunch of satirical Day X videos.

"Day 19 of shutdown. We remain in secure defilade as civilization collapses into chaos. Unclear how long our provisions can hold out without federal government to step in."

Interior shot, day: anxious couple in matching camo and helmets crouched behind sandbags in their living room, peering out through cracks in drawn blinds.

Exterior shot, day: birds chirping, breeze blowing, sun shining, people peacefully going about their ordinary business.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2013 10:31 AM (gqT4g)

81 Speaking of Kim's Dad/StepDad, when did he decide he simply had to have Morgan Fairchild's nose? WOW...just...WOW! I finally saw a slice of the show at some doctor's office waiting room, why would anyone watch such crapitola?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at October 22, 2013 10:31 AM (IGa8u)

82 52 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 03:26 PM (DmNpO)

and by "here"  I hope you meant America...NDH....

"yeah man why did President Cruz hurt the WW2 Vets and fuck up my family's health care?"

//SGt at Arms F$A

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 10:31 AM (9jfyN)

83

If the shutdown does more harm to the GOP than ObamaCare does to Democrats, the GOP has much bigger issues than anything conservatives can say or do.

 

Namely us, and we're taking our party back if it short-dicks every cannibal on the Congo.

Posted by: K Street at October 22, 2013 10:32 AM (o44nj)

84 To be fair, the VA Gov race is showing that abortion on demand is the most important thing to a lot of women, though.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 22, 2013 03:29 PM (aX41Q)

 

'scuse me, gotta go beat up some stupid fucking vaginas in VA.  brb.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:32 AM (4df7R)

85 I'm surprised they don't have one out that shows some dumb frat kid getting stoned on a big fat doobie. After all, this IS Colorado. "Damn, getting a job would be suuuuuch a buzzkill. Good thing I've got Obamacare!" Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 22, 2013 03:28 PM


Stephen Gutowski ‏@collegepolitico 4h

This ad does seem to target Obamacare's key demo: really stupid young people with no understanding of their finances


Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:32 AM (aTXUx)

86 Whereas the GOP continues to robotically re-elect the likes of McQueeg and Miss Lindsey and Peter Jowls-Falling-Off-Face King. McCain and Lindsey I do not get. King I can understand, looking at his district and the make up of his voters. Now, King needs to STFU about ripping tea party members, etc. That is unexcusable. My disappointment in the entire Shutdown experience was not one Republican invoking Reagan's 11th commandment.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2013 10:32 AM (OWjjx)

87

>>>I said instantly, Zell Miller.

 

A brilliant, forceful, and ultimately mistaken man. The GOP is the "national party no more".

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 10:32 AM (3ZtZW)

88 sven, I was just echoing what Drew said above, adding the context of Jon Stewart.  Then I tossed in the part about getting Jindal or someone else to keep up the mantra to the point where it is emebedded in LIV brains that the Dems created O-care, are proud of it, and it doesn't f*cking work.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 22, 2013 10:32 AM (sQ0LB)

89 Altho, in Zel's defense, one could grant that he meant the Dems of his youth are completely gone - and in that he is right.

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 10:33 AM (3ZtZW)

90 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 22, 2013 03:28 PM (/kI1Q) AHEM, either "Healthcare" is an appropriate spelling or I need to send a few transcripts back to the office . (And I'll need to inform the degree printer.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 10:33 AM (GaqMa)

91

Stephen Gutowski þ@collegepolitico 4h



This ad does seem to target Obamacare's key demo: really stupid young people with no understanding of their finances


 

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 03:32 PM (aTXUx)

 

 

 

Truer words have rarely been spoken.

 

Err... Tweeted.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:34 AM (4df7R)

92

>>This ad does seem to target Obamacare's key demo: really stupid young people with no understanding of their finances  <<<

 

 

 

 

That is also the key demo   of   the entire Obama Administration.

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 10:34 AM (VndSC)

93

63 -

 

Ok, I'll stop guess, lest  I get lucky.

 

I'm right there with you on wanting to keep  the  anonymity.   It's funny sometimes, when I  tell people my name is not really Burt, I sometimes get uncomfortable, because I've now eliminated one possibility from the list. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2013 10:34 AM (TOk1P)

94 76 Almost 91,000,000 Americans (16 and older) not in workforce.

http://tinyurl.com/l8wq7mg

Opening paragraph: "The number of Americans who are 16 years or older and who have decided not to participate in the nation's labor force has climbed to a record 90,609,000 in September, according to data released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics."


DECIDED NOT TO PARTICIPATE?!?!?!?!

*rage strokes and collapses twitching to the floor*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 22, 2013 03:30 PM (da5Wo)


Two million Americans decided to continue being dead in the 3rd quarter of 2013

Posted by: Bureau of Labor Statistics at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (aTXUx)

95 I'm being informed by commenters on HuffPo that this Obamacare mess is entirely the fault of Romneycare and the Heritage Foundation. It has nothing at all to do with the Democrats. I don't think that will get too much traction even in the Obamedia, but I could easily be wrong.

Posted by: stace NOW what?! at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (DX63t)

96 This ad does seem to target Obamacare's key demo: really stupid young people with no understanding of their finances FIFY

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (OWjjx)

97 "...the GOP has much bigger issues than anything conservatives can say or do. " --------------------- It is called the m-e-d-i-a.

Posted by: MSM at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (aDwsi)

98 Congress will shut down on Thursday, and leaders have told lawmakers the Defense Department will fly them to Florida for the funeral of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, who died late last week. The House’s hearing examining the health exchange rollout will continue as planned, however. -- Washington Times
...........
Man with clipboard at military plane:  Name?  Party?

Ahh.. Republican?  You are on that plane over there.  All Republicans go on that plane that is scheduled to crash in the ocean.. err.. I mean the plane is scheduled for a fly-by of Disney World..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (f9c2L)

99 "The shutdown was a clusterfuck. There was no real plan, strategy, or chance of success"

Except, of course, that if Obamacare turns out to be one of those truly epochal fiascoes, the Edsel but with one-sixth of the national economy, then having had the shutdown lets the GOP convincingly say to the electorate,

"We did everything possible to avert this disaster. We held it back right up to the edge of the chasm. But Democrats were willing to let the government default, ruin the country's credit, and cut off granny's Social Security check in order to protect Obamacare. The blame is is on them, not us."

Note my prediction: if this scenario does happen, I expect a bunch of RINOs who vocally opposed the shutdown to cravenly try to retroactively take credit for it. It's what RINOs do.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (gqT4g)

100 27 Can we please take a break from dumping on Ted Cruz?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 22, 2013 03:20 PM (23Kgq)


The rinos got to rino.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (AWmfW)

101 This ad does seem to target Obamacare's key demo: really stupid young people with no understanding of their finances Brb, repackaging 99 cents crap into $30 bags to sell to ironic hipsters.

Posted by: wooga at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (2PFRe)

102 Opening paragraph: "The number of Americans who are 16 years or older and who have decided not to participate in the nation's labor force has climbed to a record 90,609,000 in September, according to data released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics." DECIDED NOT TO PARTICIPATE?!?!?!?! End the free shit & see if they decide to not participate.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 10:35 AM (h1D+w)

103

AHEM, either "Healthcare" is an appropriate spelling or I need to send a few transcripts back to the office .

(And I'll need to inform the degree printer.)

 

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 03:33 PM (GaqMa)

 

Inform the degree printer.

Posted by: steveegg at October 22, 2013 10:36 AM (o44nj)

104 DECIDED NOT TO PARTICIPATE?!?!?!?!

I'm OK with people deciding not to participate as long as they're not taking taxpayer dollars to live on.  Married women who wish to be home raising their young children are the classic example, but devoting yourself full-time to taking care of a sick family member or babysitting your grandchildren or living off your savings for a year while you work on a creative project are all noble, too.

The key phrase, of course, is "as long as they're not taking taxpayer dollars to live on."

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 10:36 AM (/kI1Q)

105 I'm right there with you on wanting to keep the anonymity. It's funny sometimes, when I tell people my name is not really Burt, I sometimes get uncomfortable, because I've now eliminated one possibility from the list. Everyone is clear I am not really a dog.....right?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2013 10:36 AM (OWjjx)

106 88 Conservative Crank at October 22, 2013 03:32 PM (sQ0LB)

Well I'm finally bnack on a computer rather than a droid.

I was not calling you out just expressing my genuine rage, amazement, and terror at how effective Donkey/Media Marriage has been with the academy added in....

Like I said on the issue of whether or not to let the monkey fuck the football....

"let's let it fuck at almost 3/4 speed" is not a "tactical difference" I am strictly against simian effluvia not called "blood or snot" being on pigskin....

Cornyn(the source of the Cruz oppo research) can go fuck a wall socket.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 10:36 AM (9jfyN)

107 " "The number of Americans who are 16 years or olderand who have decidednotto participate in the nation's labor force" Does that include women who choose to be stay at home moms? Are they interviewing my mother? She recently quoted my childhood Iowa Basics scores as evidence of how I was wasting my potential. *glare*

Posted by: Lauren at October 22, 2013 10:36 AM (ELdpj)

108

>>>The Kentucky freshman Republican has introduced a constitutional amendment

 

STOP, please. No more legislatin'.

 

How about creat an agency whose sole purpose is to kill off other agencies? With incentives. Every single agent in whatever alphabetic nom de fuckall it gets will be stinking fkn rich and immune to prosecution if they can end 10 agencies during their tenure.

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 10:37 AM (3ZtZW)

109

@89 Altho, in Zel's defense, one could grant that he meant the Dems of his youth are completely gone - and in that he is right.

--------------

 

Reagan said something similar.  iirc, he started out as a Dem as well.

 

Posted by: junior at October 22, 2013 10:37 AM (UWFpX)

110 Important issues to Americans

The tv works when they flick the remote

Their Smartphones update their twitter and Facebook

Their EBT or ATM card spits out cash

Gay Marriage

Abortion

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:37 AM (aTXUx)

111 Everyone is clear I am not really a dog.....right? *** And I'm not really a dead horse.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 10:37 AM (DmNpO)

112

It is called the m-e-d-i-a.

 

Posted by: MSM at October 22, 2013 03:35 PM (aDwsi)

 

Our proper name is R-a-t P-r-e-s-s-t-i-t-u-t-e O-r-g-a-n-s.

 

After all, we spew upon Rat command.

Posted by: Rat Presstitute Organs at October 22, 2013 10:38 AM (o44nj)

113 /TinFoilHat on

Just had a horrid thought; what if the exchanges are designed to filter the pre-existing condition consumers and other costly patients from the general, insurable consumers, then target uncooperative HCare insurance companies with the new applications?

What if the o-care exchanges are actually weaponized to remove the Administration's unfavored companies?

/TinFoilHat off

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 22, 2013 10:38 AM (cb5D2)

114 Two million Americans decided to continue being dead in the 3rd quarter of 2013

Posted by: Bureau of Labor Statistics at October 22, 2013 03:35 PM (aTXUx)

 

"Unfortunately the   tens of millions of other Americans who have died since this nation's founding decided   to blow that for a lark and rose from their graves, flooding the labor market with abundant     job applicants    and   brain eating zombies, but mostly the brain eating zombies.   Oddly enough,    in union shops    the difference was     not immediately recognized."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:38 AM (4df7R)

115 AHEM, either "Healthcare" is an appropriate spelling or I need to send a few transcripts back to the office

I used [sic] because while those bros believe they're getting "health care" they're actually getting insurance.  Which may or may not be applied to 60% of the bill of any actual health care they may receive, if they can obtain it.

But we've all been trained to use the wrong word.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 10:38 AM (/kI1Q)

116 And I'm not really a dead horse. Funny, when I first saw your handle, I had an Animal House flashback to the scene where the horse drops dead in the Dean's office.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2013 10:39 AM (OWjjx)

117 It is called the m-e-d-i-a.

Posted by: MSM at October 22, 2013 03:35 PM (aDwsi)

 

It's called the   e-n-e-m-e-d-i-a.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:39 AM (4df7R)

118 @WSJ Breaking: IRS says tax-filing season to be delayed one to two weeks.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 22, 2013 10:39 AM (bCEmE)

119 Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2013 03:34 PM (TOk1P) No when I said "than I'm willing to admit" it's because I have a fucked up last name and even though your joke sounded funny, it's embarrassing to admit that you weren't that far off (reality is as funny as the joke I guess.) FFS, I own the facebook.com/tsrblke link, I'm really not hiding all that hard. It's a reverse sorta hiding. If you google my name, hardly any of the tsrblke stuff comes up (and actually if you google tsrblke you get mostly stuff from when I ran SETI and BOINC combined with some stuff over at MS's channel 9 forums.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 10:39 AM (GaqMa)

120

I think conservatives and the TP is in a much stronger position going into '14 and '16. That's my positive take on it all... you guys... vanilla bean.

Posted by: Yip

 

Far be it from  me to deny the ability of the GOP to bring on the Great Embonening, but I tend to  be, well...cautiously optimistic.

 

Whatever the McCains, Rubios, or whoever  else  cook up with the Dems over the next year, the simple reality is that O-Care is coming down the pike and  the havoc it's wreaking is only the beginning.

 

I can't imagine  any scenario where  it  gets any better over the next year (or three).  And while the media is always going to favour Democratic spin, the reality is that everyone knows this is Obamacare, not GOPCare.

 

Yes, the Dems and media (birm) will spin and repeat endless lies, but the reality is that only a small percentage of voters need to smarten the fuck up to make gains in the House.  And Obamacare is affecting everyone.  The small percentage of people who are going to benefit from it are almost certainly  guaranteed  Dem voters anyway, as are the extremely LIVs who will believe  all of  the  lies.

 

So, I'd say this is certainly an opportunity.  I'm really looking forward to seeing how the GOP fucks it up.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 22, 2013 10:39 AM (NF2Bf)

121 My name's not really Lauren.

Posted by: Lauren at October 22, 2013 10:40 AM (ELdpj)

122 She recently quoted my childhood Iowa Basics scores as evidence of how I was wasting my potential.

I'll trade you.  Mine is ashamed that I work.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 10:40 AM (/kI1Q)

123 I have the perfect plan for GOP victory right here in my hand ..

Ooops .. damn, it fell behind the fridge again

Posted by: David Frum at October 22, 2013 10:41 AM (aTXUx)

124 Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century? Yes, they're paranoid poll-watchers.

Posted by: Low-Information-Voter at October 22, 2013 10:41 AM (vd7A8)

125 Cornyn(the source of the Cruz oppo research) can go fuck a wall socket. Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 03:36 PM (9jfyN) WTF are you talking about? Cornyn is a SEVERE conservative!!!!1!!!one!!

Posted by: NWConservative at October 22, 2013 10:41 AM (kOe4d)

126 Wait, we're supposed to be using fake names? Uh oh...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 22, 2013 10:41 AM (qyfb5)

127 Don't blame Cruz. Congress will shut down out of respect for the dead. No, not for morons. Congress will shut down on Thursday, and leaders have told lawmakers the Defense Department will fly them to Florida for the funeral of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, extended term Chair of House Appropriations, R-FL Congressman since 1970. The House’s hearing examining the health exchange rollout will continue as planned, during the Congressional shut down.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 22, 2013 10:41 AM (MhA4j)

128 The stupid shutdown will be forgotten or just blend in with all the other Death Throe Theater for almost all voters by 2014 - if it hasn't already. It's a story for political junkies to hyperventilate over.

Posted by: forest at October 22, 2013 10:41 AM (stMuz)

129 Funny, when I first saw your handle, I had an Animal House flashback to the scene where the horse drops dead in the Dean's office. *** I have the photo from that scene as my twitter avi.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 10:42 AM (DmNpO)

130 Breaking: IRS says tax-filing season to be delayed one to two weeks. Could they at least extended it 2 weeks. Not that it matters, I have clients that will still show up 12 hours before the deadline with a box full of records, receipts and misc. crap they threw in and promising that next year it will get better.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2013 10:42 AM (OWjjx)

131 The 16 day shutdown was harmful to the GOP because the operative word is 'was' as in the government was shutdown but now it's not, and it was only 16 days.  Boehner gets a gold star for exceeding expectations but next time lets shoot for at least 100 days.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at October 22, 2013 10:42 AM (epxV4)

132 121 My name's not really Lauren.

Posted by: Lauren at October 22, 2013 03:40 PM (ELdpj)

 

 

wait !?

 

 

People put their own name on the internet?

Posted by: Frack baby frack at October 22, 2013 10:42 AM (q+zA9)

133 And I'm not really a dead horse.

I do really need a beer.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 10:42 AM (/kI1Q)

134 Two things noticed in last 48 hours. My new doctor (I moved and needed a new PCP) is an employee of a hospital complex. Closed his private practice very recently. Building that used to house another doctor in private practice now has space for lease. I'll bet that doctor went to work for a hospital also. "If you like your doctor . . . " You can keep him or her if you can find them. And if they are in your new network. Good luck with that.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 22, 2013 10:42 AM (tmFlQ)

135
No, it's "Stop doing stupid shit"

The shutdown was a clusterfuck. There was no real plan, strategy, or chance of success, unless you count the Ted Cruz's heightened profile as a win.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 03:27 PM (SY2Kh)


The clusterfuck was rinos attacking the effort when it was underway.


Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 22, 2013 10:42 AM (AWmfW)

136 Two things noticed in last 48 hours. My new doctor (I moved and needed a new PCP) is an employee of a hospital complex. Closed his private practice very recently. Building that used to house another doctor in private practice now has space for lease. I'll bet that doctor went to work for a hospital also. *** If you missed tsrblke's post this afternoon, go back and take a look. It's only going to get worse.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 10:44 AM (DmNpO)

137 Car question: yesterday I found my windshield had been hit by something. A rock, maybe, I don't. I'm trying to figure out what caused it. I didn't drive it on Sunday. But the chip was there Monday morning. Now the landscapers at my condo cut the grass over the weekend. So my first theory is a lawnmower must have kicked out a rock. But the actual angles make that kinda unlikely. Still possible, though. I have no memory of recently getting slammed by a rock while driving. However, several months ago while driving I do remember a loud bang while driving, and there was a big truck up ahead of me. At the time I looked around and couldn't see any damage. And I haven't noticed anything for months until yesterday. Finally, another fact is that it finally got a bit cold overnight in recent days. So my question is -- could it have been a chip from the summer which only grew to visible size once the weather changed? It's a bullseye chip. I was thinking maybe some local kids shot high-powered bb gun or ... I don't know. Just weird. Looks like somebody took hammer to by windshield or something. It's on the passenger side, so if it was small enough pre-cold weather I guess it's possible I just didn't see it. Is the summer rock chip a valid theory?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 10:44 AM (ZPrif)

138 I'm OK with people deciding not to participate as long as they're not taking taxpayer dollars to live on. Married women who wish to be home raising their young children are the classic example, but devoting yourself full-time to taking care of a sick family member or babysitting your grandchildren or living off your savings for a year while you work on a creative project are all noble, too.

The key phrase, of course, is "as long as they're not taking taxpayer dollars to live on."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 22, 2013 03:36 PM (/kI1Q)

 

I think BC's ragestroke was less about the    people choosing not to participate, and more about the article's decision to CLAIM that these     people "chose not to participate."      Retirees who retire early?   They're choosing not to participate.   those are about teh only people I can think of for whom that qualifier can be used without being wildly   inappropropriate.       It's less about people    choosing to forego work and more about    people    being forced to forego work because there aren't any jobs available.


But the article makes it sound all hunky dory, like Jim the Liberal Arts Major is just deciding to sit back and enjoy some "Me Time" instead of finding himself a    job   to pay    his way through college.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:44 AM (4df7R)

139 Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 22, 2013 03:42 PM (tmFlQ) If my wife can't hold down liquids I'm about to see first hand if Obamacare has fucked over urgent care. (It's already made it impossible to get to see my doctor on an same day sick appointment do the buyout I mentioned in my thread as part of the ACO wars.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 10:44 AM (GaqMa)

140 Appeals court in California rules that 2nd Amendment doesn't protect semi-autos! http://tinyurl.com/lt5ecjw http://tinyurl.com/kn852rf

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2013 10:44 AM (XvHmy)

141 But how do we battle those devastating wonky brilliant tweets from Bette Midler, Cher, Rosanne, Sally Kohn, Amanda Marcotte, Matty Yglesias, Mia Farrow, Michael Moore, Oliver Willis, Alec Baldwin, Olivia Wilde, and George Clooney?

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:45 AM (aTXUx)

142 Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century?

Yes. Which of these events do you think the MFM is going to talk about 24/7 come election time?

Posted by: Robert Ellsworth at October 22, 2013 10:45 AM (FxAgj)

143

I'll admit it.   I'm not a hobbit.

 

It pains you all to hear that, I know.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:45 AM (4df7R)

144 http://www.drudgereport.com/
How tone deaf if John McCain?
This tone deaf:
 MCCAIN EYES 2016 RUN

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 10:45 AM (Nx76m)

145 I'll never forget the nightmarish trama of John McCain's filthy tongue wagging and whorish twerking before congress.  Those scars may never heal.

Posted by: Fritz at October 22, 2013 10:45 AM (TKFmG)

146 Heh, NDH is a better shill for my work than I am Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 22, 2013 03:44 PM (4df7R) THIS 1000X this. I may have chosen to go back and get a new degree, but that time is fucking over, and now I'm totally enfuckened trying to find any jobs because the economy shit the bed in that time period.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 10:46 AM (GaqMa)

147
"Setbacks to the implementation of the Affordable Care Act continue unabated, beginning with the poorly timed attempt by REPUBLICANS to oppose the law through the means of a complete government shutdown. Now the REPUBLICANS, especially Tea Party REPUBLICANS with their negative rhetoric, are dissuading people from applying for good, blessed, affordable health insurance on healthcare.gov.  This, no doubt, is the reason so few Americans have applied."

---Your Mainstream Media at Work

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 10:46 AM (OZmbA)

148

>>It pains you all to hear that, I know.<<

 

 

But, you DO have a trampoline, right? Please say yes.

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 10:46 AM (VndSC)

149 Speaking of the government shutdown...


If you look real close at the back of a penny you can see a NPS employee guarding the Lincoln Memorial.

Posted by: HH at October 22, 2013 10:47 AM (XXwdv)

150 I'm right there with you on wanting to keep the anonymity. It's funny sometimes, when I tell people my name is not really Burt, I sometimes get uncomfortable, because I've now eliminated one possibility from the list. Everyone is clear I am not really a dog.....right? Posted by: Mallamutt Shit. Lost that $20.00!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 10:47 AM (h1D+w)

151 Well, I'm not a piece of heavy equipment. I did own one but sold it years ago in time of need....

Posted by: backhoe at October 22, 2013 10:47 AM (ULH4o)

152 It's less about people choosing to forego work and more about people being forced to forego work because there aren't any jobs available. Thank you. That was the Rage Stroke.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 22, 2013 10:47 AM (da5Wo)

153 Is the summer rock chip a valid theory? Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 03:44 PM

Yes. I actually watched a chip expand into a crack when I turned the defrosters on one time

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:47 AM (aTXUx)

154 The clusterfuck was rinos attacking the effort when it was underway. Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 22, 2013 03:42 PM (AWmfW) Yep. They attacked it the whole freaking time and undermined it at every opportunity. Its a myth that there was no strategy, the strategy was to keep the government open and not fund anything related to Obamacare.

Posted by: NWConservative at October 22, 2013 10:47 AM (kOe4d)

155 The clusterfuck was rinos attacking the effort when it was underway. The clusterfuck was Boehner, Cruz, McConnell, et. al. not getting together before doing something and gaming it out. Boehner never wanted to do the defund strategy in the first place. He did it only to appease the Cruz wing. After that, he figured they would fall in line. However, after Boehner's first "defund" theater, he had no plan other than a clean CR. No body, including Cruz, ever defined what the hell winning was with the shutdown strategy.....other than Obama and Reid caving completely on Obamacare (and does anyone really think that was going to happen?) Sort of like just getting in the car with your buddy and deciding, without any plan, to do a road trip. You might wind up in Vegas with hot chicks and gambling winnings. You could also wind up in East St. Louis with a flat tire and no cell phone service.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2013 10:47 AM (OWjjx)

156 If you see Drudge's headline about McCain running again in 2016, don't freak out. The article is about him running for the Senate, not the presidency.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 10:48 AM (DmNpO)

157 "Congress will shut down on Thursday, and leaders have told lawmakers the Defense Department will fly them to Florida for the funeral of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, who died late last week."

The other thing about mandarins of the Government Class dying, not well noted even in the blogging dextrosphere, is what happened after Frank Lautenberg passed away.

The other mandarins in Congress promptly passed, essentially without dissent or opposition, a nice fat survivor's benefit to Lautenberg's widow, a well-into-six-figures sympathy card paid for with borrowed money.

Just one little problem with that. Frank Lautenberg was one of the founders of ADP, which was and is one of the country's largest automated payroll and benefits processing firms for Corporate America. A publicly traded company with a thirty-five _billion_ dollar market cap.

Lautenberg was set for life while he was alive. And his widow was set for life after his death. Why the fuck is the government handing out generous death benefits, using money borrowed from China to be repaid with interest, to ALREADY EXTREMELY RICH PEOPLE WHO DON'T NEED THE GODDAMNED MONEY?!?!?!

Pardon me, I have to go beat my head against a wall for five or six hours.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2013 10:48 AM (gqT4g)

158 Up on Drudge, the headline: McCAIN EYEING 2016 RUN. Suddenly my head exploded...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2013 10:48 AM (uf1pv)

159

>>Reagan said something similar. iirc, he started out as a Dem as well.

 

Not the same. If you read Zell's book it just ain't. He wasn't talking about the parties as eternal verities, he was saying the Dems were gonna be marginalized and disappear becoz they were no longer in step with the people and beholden to monied interests, not their constituents. But it was the GOP what got pig-stuck. I guess something had to give, is all.

 

Still, a good read for various reasons even if he was wrong about which one was going to bite it. It was meant as a wake-up to Dems, serves just as well for the GOP now.

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 10:48 AM (3ZtZW)

160

McCain considering seeking reelection in 2016

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Tuesday that he is considering running for another term in 2016, when he would be 80 years old.  "I'm seriously thinking about maybe giving another opportunity for you to vote for or against me in a few years from now," McCain said on KFYI-AM in Phoenix. "I'm seriously giving that a lot of thought."

 

Suck it tea baggers!  Go get em daddy! 

Posted by: Meghan McCain at October 22, 2013 10:48 AM (yqezp)

161 People put their own name on the internet? Some years ago, that was the big deal over at HotAir.com. If you didn't post your real name, you were subhuman, you were dishonest. Arguing that Allah Pundit isn't his real name didn't register to Ed's brand of /truthers.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 22, 2013 10:48 AM (MhA4j)

162 Appeals court in California rules that 2nd Amendment doesn't protect semi-autos! Let me guess. The 9th Circus? The most over-ruled appeals court in the country? That appeals court?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 10:49 AM (h1D+w)

163 But, you DO have a trampoline, right? Please say yes.

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 03:46 PM (VndSC)

 

Of COURSE I do!   What do you think I am, a Democrat?

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:49 AM (4df7R)

164 144 http://www.drudgereport.com/
How tone deaf if John McCain?
This tone deaf:
MCCAIN EYES 2016 RUN

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 03:45 PM

Bring it on. He can divide the RINO vote in the primaries like they send Fuckabee and Santorum to divide the conservatives

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 10:49 AM (aTXUx)

165 MCCAIN EYES 2016 RUN
===

Oh yeah?  Game On!

Posted by: Mighty Mitt The Mittens at October 22, 2013 10:49 AM (HjPtV)

166 If you see Drudge's headline about McCain running again in 2016, don't freak out. The article is about him running for the Senate, not the presidency.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 03:48 PM (DmNpO)

 

Does he think he can will his seat to Meggie Mac?

Posted by: Frack baby frack at October 22, 2013 10:49 AM (q+zA9)

167

Is the summer rock chip a valid theory?

 

Certainly a likely candidate.  But just in case, you should probably purchase more ammo.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 22, 2013 10:49 AM (NF2Bf)

168

MCCAIN EYES 2016 RUN

 

 

 

Which party?

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 10:50 AM (VndSC)

169

>>>My name's not really Lauren.

 

**I have no hands **

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 10:50 AM (3ZtZW)

170 You might wind up in Vegas with hot chicks and gambling winnings. You could also wind up in East St. Louis with a flat tire and no cell phone service.

You may find yourself living in a shotgun shack
You may find yourself in another part of the world
You may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 10:50 AM (/kI1Q)

171 And I am not really awkward....

Posted by: The Awkward Turtle at October 22, 2013 10:50 AM (aKT+H)

172 My name may or may not be Ian.

Posted by: Ian Galt at October 22, 2013 10:50 AM (QdOC1)

173 Too funny - Someone spliced all of the Obama-fainting clips and then provides color commentary. Good stuff.

http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/10/22/obamas-staged-fainting-act-exposed/

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2013 10:50 AM (JRmiD)

174 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 03:44 PM (ZPrif)

Don't you have full glass coverage on your car insurance where you just call them and they come and inject something into the glass if it is smaller than a quarter and it looks good as new.  If it's bigger they'll replace the windshield.

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 10:51 AM (Nx76m)

175 **I have no hands **

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand

 

 

 

 

 

I expected you to say that you have no Bigby.

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 10:51 AM (VndSC)

176 Oh, another Senate run?  Good luck with that.

Posted by: Mighty Mitt The Mittens at October 22, 2013 10:51 AM (HjPtV)

177 169
>>>My name's not really Lauren.

**I have no hands **

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 03:50 PM (3ZtZW)



I'm really made of stone and immovable. (Thus the choice of stodgy right wing politics).

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 10:51 AM (OZmbA)

178 We're discussing names? Well...... *gets quiet and walks away*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at October 22, 2013 10:51 AM (da5Wo)

179 158. McCAIN EYEING 2016 RUN. If the GOP permit/force that to happen, you can be certain his Democrat opponent will win, no matter who that is.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 22, 2013 10:51 AM (MhA4j)

180 **I have no hands **

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 03:50 PM (3ZtZW)

 

That would be weird, wouldn't    it?   A hand with little hands?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:52 AM (4df7R)

181 I really am a canuck, but I only lurk when trying to catch a glimpse of the hot milf next door.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 22, 2013 10:52 AM (NF2Bf)

182 We're discussing names? Well...... *gets quiet and walks away* Slow down. Let me catch up.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 10:52 AM (h1D+w)

183 what, no brosurance post?

Posted by: Lady Billingsgate at October 22, 2013 10:52 AM (GdalM)

184 The clusterfuck was rinos attacking the effort when it was underway.

That was definitely a problem, but that's what happens when you don't make an effort to get others on board or have a plan.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 10:53 AM (SY2Kh)

185 That would be weird, wouldn't it? A hand with little hands?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 22, 2013 03:52 PM (4df7R)

 

Althought it would kind of funny to high five yourself with your own hands.     Would that count as a High-15?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)

186 McCAIN EYEING 2016 RUN TRIPLE-CHEESEBURGER.

Fixed for Meghan.




Posted by: Waterhouse at October 22, 2013 10:53 AM (Lw+sl)

187 176 Oh, another Senate run? Good luck with that.

Posted by: Mighty Mitt The Mittens at October 22, 2013 03:51 PM (HjPtV)

Yeah but you would think that the folks in Arizona would wise up a bit.  Unless he's planning on passing the seat to his daughter?

Either way bet drudge is having a lot of fun with sites thinking it's for the presidency.

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 10:53 AM (Nx76m)

188 what, no brosurance post?

Posted by: Lady Billingsgate at October 22, 2013 03:52 PM (GdalM)

 

I've got to believe we'll get a post on that.  It's too juicy and ridiculous not to.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)

189 I may or may not be a monkey who may or may not have a truck. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Remembering Inconvenient Stuff at October 22, 2013 10:53 AM (32Ze2)

190 If anyone says that AtC isn't,  I'm outta  here.

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 10:54 AM (VndSC)

191 Over at Etsy - bastion of handmade liberal thought - they are moaning about Obamacare and one even said they were waiting for republicans to "take over power" so that it would be fixed. And this person claimed to be a democrat...

Posted by: Janetoo at October 22, 2013 10:54 AM (PROOX)

192 I see the IRS Breaking headline at WSJ, but no story. I wonder what the goal/justification/necessity is with the push back? All Obamacare related or is there some other IRS fuck up rearing it's head.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 22, 2013 10:54 AM (ZshNr)

193 "It's a bullseye chip. I was thinking maybe some local kids shot high-powered bb gun or ... I don't know."

In my experience, that's what will cause that kind of a chip.

Note that your auto insurance company may subsidize or completely cover an injected epoxy spot repair, if the chip is amenable to that. I recall the rough rule is that if it's the size of a quarter or smaller, it's potentially fixable.

Note that body flexing and thermal stress will cause most chips to become cracks and unfixable. And a cracked windshield is unsafe and will get you fix-it tickets. Costs a lot more to put right, too. Best to try to head that off at the pass.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2013 10:54 AM (gqT4g)

194 If anyone says that AtC isn't, I'm outta here.

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 03:54 PM (VndSC)

 

She very much is.  

 

But she is NOT an Oompa-Loompa.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (4df7R)

195

181  "I really am a canuck, but I only lurk when trying to catch a glimpse of the hot milf next door."

 

Speaking of foreigners, where's Joffen? 

 

Joffen, if you're lurking out there, show yourself now or I'll have you deported.

Posted by: jwest at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (u2a4R)

196 Free phones and EITCs will go a long way to change voter's minds!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (71LDo)

197 O/T but the reason I hate working from home. The dog realized about 2 hours ago I am home. So, hey, she wants to go out. It is raining. So she stays out for 10 minutes, realizes "shit....its wet out here...I wanna go in". Shows up at the backdoor. 15 minutes later "hey, the old guy is here, I can go outside and sit in the front yard this afternoon!" Wants to go back out. Its still raining...so now the thought process is "its wet, I want back in". 15 minutes later....I wanna go back outside.....15 minutes after that "its wet....let me in". Over and over and over. Between the hoard and the dog, I am getting nothing done. Nothing.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (OWjjx)

198 Re McCain seeking another Senate term..... Where's that dude with the lamentations rant right about now?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (DmNpO)

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (DmNpO)

200 134 HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 22, 2013 03:42 PM (/kI1Q)

and I really am a raccoon.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (9jfyN)

201

I'm actually Mary C.  **

 

 

**The hottest woman over the age of 64 but under 68, with gray hair and under 2238 lbs.

 

 

 

!!

Posted by: Marry Clogenstien the Battle Ax in Vermont at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (q+zA9)

202 170. You may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 22, 2013 03:50 PM (/kI1Q) And you may ask yourself, Self...How did I get here? And we thought that was by the Cars.

Posted by: Talking Heads at October 22, 2013 10:55 AM (MhA4j)

203 Let me guess. The 9th Circus? The most over-ruled appeals court in the country? That appeals court? Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 03:49 PM (h1D+w) Hide posts from (h1D+w) No, that would actually surprise me, while The Circus is often a joke, that would be awfully inconsistent with their other rulings, like Emerson.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 22, 2013 10:56 AM (qyfb5)

204

>>>Althought it would kind of funny to high five yourself with your own hands. Would that count as a High-15?

 

And every night is group sex

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 10:56 AM (3ZtZW)

205 192 I see the IRS Breaking headline at WSJ, but no story. I wonder what the goal/justification/necessity is with the push back? All Obamacare related or is there some other IRS fuck up rearing it's head. Posted by: Lincolntf at October 22, 2013 03:54 PM (ZshNr) They claim it's because of the shutdown.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 22, 2013 10:56 AM (bCEmE)

206

Here is what will happen with half wit Moo moo's brain storm for the government being responsible for catastropic illness only.

 

http://tinyurl.com/nf936cx

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2013 10:56 AM (xWW96)

207 As to Etsy. I scored my wife a Reardon Metal replica bracelet from some metal worker in Arizona on that site.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 22, 2013 10:56 AM (ZshNr)

208

When I read about McCain eyeing 2016 run I thought for a moment he would run for potus again.

 

But running for Senate? Makes sense, he will probably win. Ugh!

Posted by: The Awkward Turtle at October 22, 2013 10:56 AM (aKT+H)

209 173-The narrator on that video is funny. I didn't watch the whole video, but it's only women who were fainting? can't they get some variety with a few men. How much do you get to be a fainter anyway?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 22, 2013 10:56 AM (23Kgq)

210 OK, so my initials aren't really HH

Posted by: Arch Stanton at October 22, 2013 10:57 AM (XXwdv)

211 Drudge has a huge headline up about McCain considering another run for the Senate in 2016.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 10:57 AM (oFCZn)

212 Re McCain seeking another Senate term.....


Where's that dude with the lamentations rant right about now?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 03:55 PM (DmNpO)

 

Unfortunately for McCain, he will not have his presidential matching funds to use to pummel his primary opponent, like he did to J.D. Hayworth in 2010.

Posted by: tofer732 at October 22, 2013 10:58 AM (z3MpN)

213 Yeah, I'm having the glass repair guy come over to fix it. Just curious what could have caused it. Just waking up to find a damaged windshield is annoying.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 10:58 AM (ZPrif)

214 John McCain is thinking about running again in 2016. I kid you not. According to the WaPo. LOL.  Maybe they will dig up Herbert Hoover to run with him.

Posted by: Lester at October 22, 2013 10:58 AM (qTsuK)

215 Maybe if they hadn't spent countless millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours harassing political opponents they might have been able to keep up.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 22, 2013 10:58 AM (ZshNr)

216 211 go for it, who cares really

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 10:58 AM (3ZtZW)

217 …he was saying the Dems were gonna be marginalized and disappear becoz they were no longer in step with the people and beholden to monied interests, not their constituents. Yeah, the thing people keep forgetting about the “monied interests” is… they have money. Want to make a law to keep the monied interests from donating too much to candidates? Remember, the monied interests have money. They can get around your law. It’s the unmonied interests who tried to band together who can’t. Want to make a law to tax the monied interests instead of the middle class? Remember, the monied interests can afford the tax consultants that allow them to avoid the taxes. The middle class, not so much. Want to take over some unfair part of our economy to even out the differences between the monied interests and the poor? Remember, the monied interests can go elsewhere. The poor, not so much.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at October 22, 2013 10:58 AM (QF8uk)

218 Break is NOT over.  And I get another at 3:00.

Posted by: cud chewing SEIU member at October 22, 2013 10:59 AM (wAQA5)

219 McCAIN EYEING 2016 RUN TRIPLE-CHEESEBURGER. Fixed for Meghan. Posted by: Waterhouse at October 22, 2013 03:53 PM (Lw+sl) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0hwTrNkJCg

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2013 10:59 AM (XvHmy)

220 So my question is -- could it have been a chip from the summer which only grew to visible size once the weather changed?

It's a bullseye chip. I was thinking maybe some local kids shot high-powered bb gun or ... I don't know.


Cold weather often causes a crack to form, but that doesn't sound like what you're describing.  More likely it was damaged recently.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 10:59 AM (SY2Kh)

221 I didn't watch the whole video, but it's only women who were fainting? can't they get some variety with a few men.

 

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 22, 2013 03:56 PM (23Kgq)

 

 

yeah, WTH?     Obammy   repealed DADT,  didn't he?  Let's get some gay men fainting in his presence already, geez.   And yes, I include Chrissy Matthews and     Ed  "Aneurysm" Schultz in that group.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 10:59 AM (4df7R)

222

It's called the e-n-e-m-e-d-i-a.

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 22, 2013 03:39 PM (4df7R)

 

Nice description.  Now where's the mind bleach?

Posted by: steveegg at October 22, 2013 10:59 AM (o44nj)

223 That was definitely a problem, but that's what happens when you don't make an effort to get others on board or have a plan. Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 03:53 PM (SY2Kh) Because getting the "others" onboard were people in the same freaking party who love to run to the media and shit all over the tea party and conservatives in general. Mitch McConnell saying people are traitors who support the senate conservatives fund and people like McCain, Rubio, Collins, Alexander, Corker et al who run to the open arms of the Democrats whenever they can. You cannot reconcile big government supports and conservatives. People like Bob Corker are not conservative. Sure they TALK a good game, but that is just what they do during election season, see Cornyn Serious conservative of Texas and McCain "build the damn fence 2010."

Posted by: NWConservative at October 22, 2013 11:00 AM (kOe4d)

224 Just waking up to find a damaged windshield is annoying.

FIFY.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 11:00 AM (/kI1Q)

225

@208 When I read about McCain eyeing 2016 run I thought for a moment he would run for potus again.

But running for Senate? Makes sense, he will probably win. Ugh!

------------

 

Unfortunately, probably true.  But on the other hand...

 

He did feel a need to run all of those "Build the dang fence!" ads the last time he ran.  And border issues are a pretty big concern in parts of Arizona.  There's a chance that the anti-amnesty/pro-border control support is strong enough to punish him for his pro-amnesty stance.

 

Posted by: junior at October 22, 2013 11:00 AM (UWFpX)

226 221 MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 22, 2013 03:59 PM (4df7R)

I said earlier President Dobler's boombox is playing "It's Raining Men"...

totally not gay

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 11:00 AM (9jfyN)

227 After watching the barrybabytempertantrumbots take the handles off of the fountains in public parks, I shake my head that ANYONE still supports the democrats. What fools. What ignorant fools.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2013 11:00 AM (IXrOn)

228 Unfortunately for McCain, he will not have his presidential matching funds to use to pummel his primary opponent, like he did to J.D. Hayworth in 2010. Can we run someone in both the Democrat and Republican primaries to oppose him? Just to hedge our bets?

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at October 22, 2013 11:01 AM (QF8uk)

229 198. How doth the city sit solitary? א

Posted by: Talking hkya Heads at October 22, 2013 11:01 AM (MhA4j)

230 McCain has to stay in the Senate, otherwise no one can justify giving all that attention to Meggie McBoobs

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:01 AM (aTXUx)

231 Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 22, 2013 03:56 PM (bCEmE) Shutdown delayed tax filing, I'll take that as a minor win

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at October 22, 2013 11:02 AM (GaqMa)

232 228 aid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at October 22, 2013 04:01 PM (QF8uk)

Back the primary opponent...if he/she fails back the democrat.

You're done Mav keep an eye on your life partner.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 11:02 AM (9jfyN)

233 How pathetic it is if they have to hire people to faint so that Obama can "save" them. I mean, that's even more pathetic than people were so awed by his presence that they keeled over.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 22, 2013 11:02 AM (23Kgq)

234 Denise Milani Open Thread Compliance Pic: http://tinyurl.com/o377gay

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 11:02 AM (oFCZn)

235 I want McCain to run in 2016. I want Arizona to find a decent conservative to primary his old ass and beat him. Cause that concession speech will be the most epic concession speech ever. The vile and hatred meter would go to 11.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2013 11:02 AM (OWjjx)

236 McCain has to stay in the Senate, otherwise no one can justify giving all that attention to Meggie McBoobs Pr0n channels might.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 11:02 AM (h1D+w)

237

So my question is -- could it have been a chip from the summer which only grew to visible size once the weather changed?



It's a bullseye chip. I was thinking maybe some local kids shot high-powered bb gun or ... I don't know.


 

Could be kids.    Could be some kind of debris from a passing   vehicle   or high winds.   Do you have oak trees  around?   It might be from a particularly high velocity acorn.  No really, I'm not kidding.  High wind plus acorn equals    smack!  crack!.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 11:03 AM (4df7R)

238 Vitter calls for investigation into EPA's armed raid on Alaska miners following charge they violated the Clean Water Act. http://bit.ly/17GVYhc

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 11:03 AM (DmNpO)

239 Who the hell is this guy posting for Drew and what has he done with the real Drew?

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:03 AM (LSJmV)

240 Has anybody polled how much its going to hurt from being so weak people won't join the fail?

Posted by: DaveA at October 22, 2013 11:03 AM (DL2i+)

241 Can we run someone in both the Democrat and Republican primaries to oppose him? Just to hedge our bets?

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at October 22, 2013 04:01 PM (QF8uk)

 

Unfortunately, Arizona has a closed primary.  Would have to change your party affiliation.  But we can send an opponent a boatload of cash.

Posted by: tofer732 at October 22, 2013 11:03 AM (z3MpN)

242

Of course the shutdown hurt the GOP.  At the very least, it made them look disorganized and unserious, while accomplishing nothing of substance.  There was no upside to it.  The long term implications of the shut down are probably miminal, but it did make life just a little harder for conservatives and conservative candidates.  That is something we don't need at the moment.

Hopefully, we somehow resist the urge to go batshit crazy on social issues in 2014 and stick to the principles of individual freedom and small government.  By that, I mean the freedom of individuals to make their own social decisions, (whether we agree with them or not) and recognizing that the government's job is not to impose social values on its citizens.  Let's let the top down, big government, social conservative "Republicans" become the pro-life, anti gay marriage branch of the Democrat party and see how that works for the Dems.  Let's keep the Republican focused on the art of actually governing within the confines of the Constitution and winning elections.

    

Posted by: Paul at October 22, 2013 11:04 AM (1U0k+)

243 Any Brand that misjudged it's market as badly as the Repubs, would be out of business or at least would be undergoing a management shakeup from the Chairman of the Board on down.

The sort of stuff they've pulled over the last 12 months gets people fired in RL.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at October 22, 2013 11:04 AM (lAZep)

244
Cavuto just ate Obama and government a new asshole for comparing their performance with Apple. 

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 22, 2013 11:04 AM (pJF+c)

245
Is this comment thread boring enough for Ace?

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:04 AM (OZmbA)

246 Ha! I see that Hannah Anderson's aunt is writing a book because she thinks she is lying about the murders of her mother and brother. The girl is weird and no I don't think everyone grieves in their own way. Some people grieve like little sociopaths.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 22, 2013 11:05 AM (As/N8)

247 Let's keep the Republican focused on the art of actually governing within the confines of the Constitution and winning elections.

Posted by: Paul at October 22, 2013 04:04 PM (1U0k+)

 

In the modern   GOP,   "governing within the confines of the Constitution"      cannot exist in the same world as "winning elections."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 22, 2013 11:05 AM (4df7R)

248

Is this comment thread boring enough for Ace?

 

 

 

 

It's not really "Ace".  It's Jack...  of Clubs.

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (VndSC)

249 Unfortunately for McCain, he will not have his presidential matching funds to use to pummel his primary opponent, like he did to J.D. Hayworth in 2010. *** I can't help it. I see any small thing that handicaps his run as a win for the party.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (DmNpO)

250 Can someone post a link of Tortuga McConnell getting that eight minute standing ovation after returning home to Kentucky?

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (LSJmV)

251 Is this comment thread boring enough for Ace?

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 04:04 PM (OZmbA)

 

 

well you can always think of me

Posted by: Marry Clogenstien the Battle Ax in Vermont at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (q+zA9)

252 A book for the LIVs.  Michael Jackson speaks to them through a psychic from Heaven.

http://tinyurl.com/k2xgcg2

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (XUKZU)

253 Meggie prepares to eat two cell phones

http://tinyurl.com/lcnjw9g

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (aTXUx)

254 Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century? According to my Dem relatives, the answer is a resounding YES.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (7ObY1)

255

Shit. Drudge headline: McCain  considers  2016 run.

 

Um, no.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (0HooB)

256 Rumor has it that the HHS secretary has chosen this video as the soundtrack for a new ObamaCare ad:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9fw48r

Posted by: mrp at October 22, 2013 11:06 AM (HjPtV)

257 I can't help it. I see any small thing that handicaps his run as a win for the party.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 04:06 PM (DmNpO)

 

I am with you 100%.  No reason for a state like Arizona to be represented by King RINO.

Posted by: tofer732 at October 22, 2013 11:07 AM (z3MpN)

258 Ha! I see that Hannah Anderson's aunt is writing a book because she thinks she is lying about the murders of her mother and brother. The girl is weird and no I don't think everyone grieves in their own way. Some people grieve like little sociopaths. That girl ain't right and the whole story has stunk from day 1. Anderson's story stinks to high heaven, as my mother would say.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 22, 2013 11:07 AM (7ObY1)

259
Ace said while he was away to keep the posts dull and the comments boring.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:07 AM (OZmbA)

260 "Is this comment thread boring enough for Ace?"


IF that is his real name!


But yeah, probably.

Posted by: HH at October 22, 2013 11:08 AM (XXwdv)

261 **Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century?** Exactly, the DNC fan fiction on the 1995 shutdown is ridiculous. Even worse is that the GOP establishment has bought into the panic over this.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 22, 2013 11:08 AM (QxSug)

262
So no tits and no sex talk.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:08 AM (OZmbA)

263 234 Denise Milani Open Thread Compliance Pic:

http://tinyurl.com/o377gay Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:02 PM

Doesn't look 0377gay to me

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:08 AM (aTXUx)

264

>>>How pathetic it is if they have to hire people to faint so that Obama can "save" them. I mean, that's even more pathetic than people were so awed by his presence that they keeled over.

 

Hey - that should be the next GOP candidate's gimmick. Like he points at someone and they die on the spot. It'd be Biblical, I tells ya.

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 11:08 AM (3ZtZW)

265 Ace, if we promise to miss you, can we have some controversy?

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at October 22, 2013 11:08 AM (IlZPo)

266 The Onion ‏@TheOnion 20m PHOTO: People In Healthcare.gov Stock Photos Now Visibly Panicking http://onion.com/178YSyY

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 11:08 AM (DmNpO)

267 Drudge has a huge headline up about McCain considering another run for the Senate in 2016.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 03:57 PM (oFCZn)

**

Ugh...thats it I'm sending in the heavy hitter. A very good family friend of mine used to be a big wig in NH Rep. politics and now spends 1/2 the year semi-retired in AZ. He knows McClame, knows he is a tool, he can help us.

You're welcome.


Posted by: dananjcon at October 22, 2013 11:08 AM (wmU4G)

268 *Ahem* 234 Denise Milani Open Thread Compliance Pic: http://tinyurl.com/o377gay Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:02 PM (oFCZn)

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 11:09 AM (oFCZn)

269

234

Denise Milani Open Thread Compliance Pic:

 

I'd like to play "Come In Tokyo" with those knobs.

Posted by: Ham Radio Operator at October 22, 2013 11:09 AM (wAQA5)

270 259
Ace said while he was away to keep the posts dull and the comments boring.
Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 04:07 PM

Welcome to Fun with Flags!

Posted by: Sheldon Cooper at October 22, 2013 11:09 AM (aTXUx)

271 Soirée at my house on Saturday and of course my washer decides to die full of water, detergent and clothes. Deep breath.

Posted by: NCKate at October 22, 2013 11:10 AM (83KrV)

272 263 234
Denise Milani Open Thread Compliance Pic:

Once again, I suddenly crave a tall glass of warm milk.

Posted by: Ian Galt at October 22, 2013 11:10 AM (QdOC1)

273 "I want McCain to run in 2016. I want Arizona to find a decent conservative to primary his old ass and beat him."

Out here in Commiefornia, there was a massive drumbeat in 2008 to the effect that OMG, this guy is older than old dirt, and he's fucked up physically, and has had cancer, and there's NO WAY such a fossil could ever even live through his first term as President, much less energetically discharge the duties of the office. Even if you're not a Democrat you had better vote for the energetic young Democrat. For the sake of the country, you understand. We just can't run the risk of an elderly President conking out at this critical time.

Instead here we are five years later and McQueeg just doggedly keeps on going like a Terminator.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2013 11:10 AM (gqT4g)

274 To be fair, the VA Gov race is showing that abortion on demand is the most important thing to a lot of women, though. ----- @dave in Fla Not really abortion on demand, but certainly reproductive and sexual freedom. When our candidate can't even convince people that he doesn't want to outlaw sex and birth control, you've complete last control of the narrative. Virginia's are going to come to despise Terry McAullife and his brand of politics. Cucinelli's campaign is beyond inept.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 22, 2013 11:10 AM (Y6CaM)

275 So I have a bit of personal news I'd like to share.  Hope this isn't too far off the normal flow of topics.

Yesterday, Florida governor Rick Scott signed the third death warrant on Thomas Knight. Knight has been on death row since 1975, when he robbed and murdered an elderly couple in South Florida. Knight held the wife at gunpoint, and told the husband he was going to kill her if the man didn't withdraw all of their savings from a bank and hand it over. After the husband filled his end of the bargain, Knight took them out to the Everglades and murdered them anyway.  When the FBI caught him that same day, he was hiding in the swamp, with the murder weapon and the money buried beneath him.  The bodies were just a few feet away.

But that's not the warrant Knight is being executed for.

After six years on death row, Knight stabbed a prison guard in the chest with a sharpened spoon.  The victim was a close family friend, Mr. Richard Burke.  He and his wife sang in the church choir that my mother lead.  His wife and my mom taught at the same elementary school. We ate at their house often. Some of my best childhood memories were of eating Mr. Burke's Bbq, swimming in their family pool. Our families were very close. In fact, when Mr. Burke was killed, his daughter was at our house. The prison chaplain reached her there, and she had to be the one to tell her mother that her husband had taken a shank to the heart and was dead.

I have mixed thoughts about the death penalty. It's not easy to take the life of another human being, no matter how reprehensible that person may be.  But I do know this.  If justice has been served swiftly on Thomas Knight for the South Florida killings, my friend might still be alive today.

Something to think about.

Posted by: Mike at October 22, 2013 11:10 AM (Rk8LS)

276 Th author of the Michael Jackson speaks from heaven book, Marilynn founded 'The Out-of-Body Travel Foundation' in 2003. Do you pay this woman large amounts of money to have an out of body travel experience. If I want to go to Israel without paying for a plane ticket can she do it for me? I guess I don't need luggage either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 22, 2013 11:11 AM (23Kgq)

277 I wonder how Meghan would feel about running against her daddy?

Think of the debates.

Posted by: Fritz at October 22, 2013 11:11 AM (UzPAd)

Posted by: scrapofcat at October 22, 2013 11:11 AM (kPHTJ)

279 Out here in Commiefornia, there was a massive drumbeat in 2008 to the effect that OMG, this guy is older than old dirt, and he's fucked up physically, and has had cancer, and there's NO WAY such a fossil could ever even live through his first term as President, much less energetically discharge the duties of the office. Even if you're not a Democrat you had better vote for the energetic young Democrat. For the sake of the country, you understand. We just can't run the risk of an elderly President conking out at this critical time.

Instead here we are five years later and McQueeg just doggedly keeps on going like a Terminator.
---

He's 77 now. He'd be 81 when he took office.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 22, 2013 11:12 AM (XUKZU)

280 #95

Those jackasses always leave out the reasons WHY the Heritage folks put the idea forward. IT was a spoiler for HillaryCare, saying that this is never going to come close to covering its costs and you'd need something like this plan we've cooked up to have any hope of doing so. And our plan only works by putting a huge burden on young healthy people to pick up the tab. Even then it adds a huge chunk to the overall entitlement burden.


The GOP is often called the Stupid Party to the DNC's Evil Party. The great irony is that the way the GOP so often goes wrong is in overestimating the intelligence of the people it is trying to sway. I have no doubt that millions of people could have an epiphany if they were to read a book like 'Ameritopia' but we happily give votes to people who regard never having to read another book as one of the great benefits of graduating from school.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 11:12 AM (kcfmt)

281 Can't get more boring than windshield repair. I'm just trying to help Ace, really.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 11:12 AM (ZPrif)

282 If you want boring, I can discuss the history of the small block Chevy engine to those of you who aren't gearheads

If that's too exciting, there's the history of the Chrysler Torqueflite transmission

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:13 AM (aTXUx)

283 And if you notice I chose a rather "chaste" picture of Denise Milani in keeping with Ace's directive to be "boring". Damn him to hell.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 11:13 AM (oFCZn)

284 Sorry Mike.

Posted by: NCKate at October 22, 2013 11:13 AM (83KrV)

285 Ace, if we promise to miss you, can we have some controversy? #twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 11:13 AM (h1D+w)

286 No worries-McCain is tanned, tested, and ready.

Posted by: ejo at October 22, 2013 11:14 AM (GXvSO)

287 Once more, with link:

Mission Accomplished!

http://i42.tinypic.com/f3vtja.jpg

Posted by: scrapofcat at October 22, 2013 11:14 AM (kPHTJ)

288 Can we have Denise Milani pressed up against a windshield?

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:14 AM (OZmbA)

289 kdabear, please tell us again the story of paint drying

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 11:14 AM (3ZtZW)

290

ObamaCare is the most significant achievement of the Obama Administration.  It is a big f'n deal.  It is the flagship of all of his policies.  And the public face of it is an utter failure. 

 

And if the public face is an utter failure, what level of failure is in the back areas of ObamaCare?  Is it possible to have failure beyond utter?  Apocalyptic Ruin?  Galactical Catastrophe?  A Super-Nova Fiasco?

 

When it is finally admitted that ObamaCare is a debacle on a scale not seen since France fell the search for scapegoats will begin - if it hasn't already.  And I hear Obama's getting his bus tuned up....

 

 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet is the Home of the Hostile Takeover at October 22, 2013 11:14 AM (hLRSq)

291 Keep the blog boring Open Thread Compliance Pic: http://tinyurl.com/m87g6lk

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 11:15 AM (oFCZn)

292 Posted by: Mike at October 22, 2013 04:10 PM (Rk8LS) *** It's obvious that you are still pained by the loss of a close family friend. I am sorry for that. I've commented before that I was well into my 30's before I came to terms with the death penalty but I do now believe that it is the best option in certain circumstances. This, as you tell it, is one of those circumstances. Even in prison, he still posed a threat to society.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 11:15 AM (DmNpO)

293 271 Soirée at my house on Saturday and of course my washer decides to die full of water, detergent and clothes. Deep breath.

Posted by: NCKate at October 22, 2013 04:10 PM (83KrV)

Is it a front loader?  There are settings you can put in to empty the machine.  Sears has a repair service that is cheaper than everyone else but there is always a week wait time.  Sears will sell you a warranty plan on future repairs.  This will insure the machine will work perfectly and never have a single problem.  If you don't buy the warranty, you rue the day you didn't.  It's really freaky how that works.

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 11:15 AM (Nx76m)

294 Sorry about your friend, Mike.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 22, 2013 11:16 AM (23Kgq)

295 Is this the Book thread?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at October 22, 2013 11:16 AM (lAZep)

296 A Woman and Her Muff Open Thread Compliance Pic: http://tinyurl.com/lb2b5zx

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 11:16 AM (oFCZn)

297 Over at cnsnews.com 154,000 Fewer Women Held Jobs in September; Female Participation in Labor Force Matches 24-Year Low so every single "group" the left spin into believing that they help - they actually hurt women blacks the poor children - especially poor children boy, do they suck the big one and anyone that votes democrat are just clinger-onsers; nasty

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2013 11:16 AM (IXrOn)

298 Or, conversely or otherwise, speak sewage at us. By which I mean water treatment facilities management, not the other.

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 11:16 AM (3ZtZW)

299 WASHINGTON—Responding to widespread criticism regarding its health care website, the federal government today unveiled its new, improved Obamacare program, which allows Americans to purchase health insurance after installing a software bundle contained on 35 floppy disks. “I have heard the complaints about the existing website, and I can assure you that with this revised system, finding the right health care option for you and your family is as easy as loading 35 floppy disks sequentially into your disk drive and following the onscreen prompts,” President Obama told reporters this morning, explaining that the nearly three dozen 3.5-inch diskettes contain all the data needed for individuals to enroll in the Health Insurance Marketplace, while noting that the updated Obamacare software is mouse-compatible and requires a 386 Pentium processor with at least 8 MB of system RAM to function properly.

Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 11:17 AM (fWAjv)

300 You know what would be in appropriate to say to the president about the Obamacare launch?

Heck of a job, Brownie.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 22, 2013 11:17 AM (XUKZU)

301 They really do think the Senate is a life appointment, don't they? I bet they'd make the seats hereditary if they thought they could get away with it.

Posted by: brak at October 22, 2013 11:17 AM (iEoiA)

302 Instead here we are five years later and McQueeg just doggedly keeps on going like a Terminator.

His mother is 101.  Her parents were quite long-lived as well.

...80 more years of Meggie.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 11:17 AM (/kI1Q)

303 Demographics of America have changed, which means the voting electorate has changed! That is the issue the GOP faces, and they are trying to make it worse by passing amnesty. DUMB FUCKS!

Posted by: Dan at October 22, 2013 11:17 AM (m3gf3)

304 296 A Woman and Her Muff Open Thread Compliance Pic:

http://tinyurl.com/lb2b5zx

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:16 PM (oFCZn)


funny

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:18 AM (OZmbA)

305 Is this a good time to tell everyone about Amway?

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:18 AM (LSJmV)

306 Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 04:17 PM (fWAjv) red onion

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2013 11:18 AM (IXrOn)

307 293 Good old top loader. YouTube video looks simple for doing the repair. If not, my father will be here on Friday. It's just dealing with the mess until then. First world problems and all. Mike gave me perspective.

Posted by: NCKate at October 22, 2013 11:18 AM (83KrV)

308 to be fair, the press acted exactly the same as they did in 1995, making this all GOP's fault, whatever, "this" is. I guess that's expected. What's not expected is GOP compliance and refusal to even have a response. I mean, ok, fine. WashPost or CNN isn't going to give you 5 words to explain yourself. Shouldn't the GOP at least have a social media presence to explain things? like everytime some liberal half-tard says something, a twitter bot points out truth? fuck, there's a guy on twitter named skynet that will respond to you if you mention the word skynet in a tweet, as I found out.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 22, 2013 11:18 AM (QxSug)

309 291 Keep the blog boring Open Thread Compliance Pic:

http://tinyurl.com/m87g6lk

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:15 PM (oFCZn)


I suddenly have an aversion to tall glasses of sour milk.


Posted by: Ian Galt at October 22, 2013 11:18 AM (QdOC1)

310 289 kdabear, please tell us again the story of paint drying

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 04:14 PM (3ZtZW)

That's the spirit! The small block Chevy began in 1955 with the overhead valve 265 cubic inch V8 available in the Belair


Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:18 AM (aTXUx)

311 while noting that the updated Obamacare software is mouse-compatible and requires a 386 Pentium processor with at least 8 MB of system RAM to function properly."
====
Finally!

Posted by: mrp at October 22, 2013 11:18 AM (HjPtV)

312

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 22, 2013 04:17 PM (/kI1Q)

 

 

The good die young while the turds just hang around and stink the place up.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2013 11:19 AM (xWW96)

313 Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 03:45 PM (Nx76m) I smell cat piss.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2013 11:19 AM (nacj9)

314 If justice has been served swiftly on Thomas Knight for the South Florida killings, my friend might still be alive today. Something to think about. There is one religion I am familiar with that believes that if society can not remove the threat of an individual from killing again, that the death penalty is warranted. I remember the case of a young girl in Pennsylvania, savagely murdered in Philadelphia, by a person who had already murdered in Texas. I still shake my head at that case. The MSM had portrayed Texans as willing to throw the switch at the drop of the hat, and here we had a case of a murderer beating the system and killing again. Sorry for your friend.

Posted by: Schrdinger's cat [/i] at October 22, 2013 11:19 AM (U2UQk)

315 The guy murdered 3 people. Fuck yeah, he deserves the death penalty. And contrary to want they say, it feels real good. Every once in a while a prisoner will comment how wonderful the initial drug feels. None of use will have such a pain free death.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 22, 2013 11:19 AM (As/N8)

316

234
Denise Milani Open Thread Compliance Pic:

 

Lucky that her lower back problems will be treated as a pre-existing condition under ObamaCare.

Posted by: Dr. Weldon Shitpanski at October 22, 2013 11:20 AM (wAQA5)

317 283 And if you notice I chose a rather "chaste" picture of Denise Milani in keeping with Ace's directive to be "boring". Damn him to hell. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:13 PM (oFCZn)
tinyurl.com/mjddq7x
The word 'boring' does not apply to most any woman I have known, personally - and most certainly is inapplicable to that woman.
Hm, that might mean we're breaking the rules for Boring Week. Hmmm...

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (sWkj/)

318 I dunno..the posts today taste kind of chocolate-y...vanilla, eh...not so much...

Posted by: Tom Carvel at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (EJ/Tn)

319 McCain considering seeking reelection in 2016 BY AARON BLAKE October 22 at 11:57 am Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Tuesday that he is considering running for another term in 2016, when he would be 80 years old. "I'm seriously thinking about maybe giving another opportunity for you to vote for or against me in a few years from now," McCain said on KFYI-AM in Phoenix. "I'm seriously giving that a lot of thought." Senility has no limits. Go home and die

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (t3UFN)

320 249. I see any small thing that handicaps his run as a win for the party. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 04:06 PM (DmNpO) McCain's cut his own re-election throat. It ain't gonna happen again. He not only doesn't have the national potus grab bag funds, but whatever "nice guy" image he managed to conjure during the 2008 primary "My Friends", went by the wayside given his senility that has set in hard core. Arizona Republican voters may have smarted from McCain's potus loss, and out of a self defensive posture, re-elected him against their better judgement. Last re-election, McCain had all of the State Republican politicians in his pocket, claiming Hayworth was fiscally corrupt, as if McCain weren't. So there's time now to drag the State GOP politicians out into the light of day and put them on the record why they would support ANOTHER McCain senate term instead of replacing him. Hell, Quayle's son already carpet bagged his way into AZ GOP politics, waiting in the wings. Not that he'd necessarily be "better than" McCain. Point is, get an ally of Mike Lee, and get started now.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (MhA4j)

321 Instead of boring, may I just be tedious?

Posted by: fluffy at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (oIA9+)

322 "If you want boring, I can discuss the history of the small block Chevy engine to those of you who aren't gearheads. If that's too exciting, there's the history of the Chrysler Torqueflite transmission"

http://search.dilbert.com/comic/Boron

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (gqT4g)

323 Over at cnsnews.com 154,000 Fewer Women Held Jobs in September; Female Participation in Labor Force Matches 24-Year Low so every single "group" the left spin into believing that they help - they actually hurt women blacks the poor children - especially poor children Yet it's the Republican's with their War on Wimmens!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (h1D+w)

324 I really am a flasher but not really suppressed. Hey, um NDH, AtC, MWR, Peaches-What YOU doing?

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (X+nFp)

325 307 293 Good old top loader. YouTube video looks simple for doing the repair. If not, my father will be here on Friday. It's just dealing with the mess until then. First world problems and all. Mike gave me perspective.

Posted by: NCKate at October 22, 2013 04:18 PM (83KrV)

Yeah my immediate reaction to Mike's post was to pray for him and the family.

You are lucky you have someone to do the repairs.  My last repair they took out the drum and it was cracked and they told me just to get a new machine.  After the machine was long gone I found out Maytag had recalled the machine and we could have dealt with them.  The price for the new drum with labor was 500 bucks, it wasn't worth it, we got a new machine.  At a time when things were so tight we didn't know where we were going to find the money to buy it.

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 11:21 AM (Nx76m)

326 That's the spirit! The small block Chevy began in 1955 with the overhead valve 265 cubic inch V8 available in the Belair Posted by: kbdabear Ooooh, tell us about the thin-walled casting process.

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:22 AM (LSJmV)

327 Christina Hendricks Boring Business Attired Compliance pic

http://tinyurl.com/kxshhrn

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:23 AM (aTXUx)

328 The word 'boring' does not apply to most any woman I have known, personally - and most certainly is inapplicable to that woman. Hm, that might mean we're breaking the rules for Boring Week. Hmmm... Posted by: Kinley Ardal at October 22, 2013 04:21 PM (sWkj/) Does Obamacare cover a busted zipper?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 11:23 AM (oFCZn)

329 Anyone want to see my collection of hankerchiefs?

Posted by: Marry Clogenstien the Battle Ax in Vermont at October 22, 2013 11:24 AM (q+zA9)

330 I really am a flasher but not really suppressed. Hey, um NDH, AtC, MWR, Peaches-What YOU doing? **** *points and laughs*

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 11:24 AM (DmNpO)

331 Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century?

Yup.

Remember, this is the country that elected Barack Obama.  Twice.

Posted by: Null at October 22, 2013 11:24 AM (xjpRj)

332 The horrible jobs numbers for women mean nothing. They have proven they vote for liberals due to abortion. Aborting their children is more important than anything as the polls show.

Posted by: Dan at October 22, 2013 11:24 AM (m3gf3)

333 The small block Chevy began in 1955 with the overhead valve 265 cubic inch V8 available in the Belair

What was the ignition timing?

Posted by: Mona Lisa Vito at October 22, 2013 11:24 AM (Lw+sl)

334 Ooooh, tell us about the thin-walled casting process. Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 04:22 PM

You'll have to wait for Part 2, no spoilers!!

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:24 AM (aTXUx)

335 >>>If you want boring, I can discuss the history of the small block Chevy engine to those of you who aren't gearheads

If that's too exciting, there's the history of the Chrysler Torqueflite transmission

***

Pffft....taint nuthin. I'm well versed in the history of the automotive starter and alternator.  You want boring?...I'll give you boring.


 

Posted by: dananjcon at October 22, 2013 11:25 AM (wmU4G)

336
Does Obamacare cover a busted zipper?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:23 PM (oFCZn)

It probably covers zipper accidents but I bet the deductible is so high the first couple of zipper accidents are on your dime.

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 11:25 AM (Nx76m)

337 RWC - doing the job that IT can't. Seriously, what do they do again???

Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 11:25 AM (fWAjv)

338 "McCain's cut his own re-election throat. It ain't gonna happen again. He not only doesn't have the national potus grab bag funds, but whatever "nice guy" image he managed to conjure during the 2008 primary "My Friends", went by the wayside given his senility that has set in hard core."
======
It vanished the moment Harry Reid offered Ted Cruz an extra hour to speak if Cruz would yield 15 minutes of floor time to Harry's dear friend, Johnny Mac.

Posted by: mrp at October 22, 2013 11:25 AM (HjPtV)

339
There are some people who are still freaking out over the supposed damage from the shutdown to the GOP's 2014 prospects.



 
"Conn Carroll is editor of Townhall Magazine. "

Which is just one of the many reasons most don't bother reading Townhall Magazine.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 22, 2013 11:25 AM (kdS6q)

340 Knight has changed his name to ASKARI ABDULLAH MUHAMMAD If you really want to see what assholes these guys are, read the briefs, especially the HC: http://goo.gl/NRw8BF

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 22, 2013 11:25 AM (As/N8)

341 Whatever happened to stamp collecting as a hobby? Have we descended so low in this nation as to have lost the passion for philately?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 22, 2013 11:25 AM (dfYL9)

342

This is kind of strange.

http://tinyurl.com/lk9gf5e

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2013 11:25 AM (xWW96)

343 Does Obamacare cover a busted zipper? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:23 PM (oFCZn)
Nope.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at October 22, 2013 11:26 AM (sWkj/)

344

>>>Anyone want to see my collection of hankerchiefs?

 

Do you keep them in boxes, in various stores?

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 11:26 AM (3ZtZW)

345 333 The small block Chevy began in 1955 with the overhead valve 265 cubic inch V8 available in the Belair

What was the ignition timing?
Posted by: Mona Lisa Vito at October 22, 2013 04:24 PM

3 degrees before top dead center

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:27 AM (aTXUx)

346  I really am a flasher but not really suppressed. Hey, um NDH, AtC, MWR, Peaches-What YOU doing?

****

*points and laughs*

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 04:24 PM (DmNpO) Heh! Fortunately I now have O'Barkycare and I'm sure any psychological damage you have caused me is covered. Not to mention the um enhancement surgery that I really don't need, I'm just checking prices for a friend.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 22, 2013 11:27 AM (X+nFp)

347 Zerocare won't cover a busted zipper but it sure as hell will cover a busted rubber.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2013 11:27 AM (xWW96)

348 passion for philately

Harry Reid is a secret philatelyist

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:27 AM (OZmbA)

349 Just Keepin' it Real...Real Boring Open Thread Compliance Pic: http://tinyurl.com/kkjgwxp

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 11:27 AM (oFCZn)

350

I just read the sidebar on how we haven't done any training in the Army for 6 months because of budget cutbacks.

 

General Odiermo seems to think this is unacceptable.

 

Well, suck it up, bitch.  If you can't handle the job, it's time to replace you.

 

The era of blank checks to the military is over.  A 10% cut shouldn't even be noticed and a 20% cut - I'm talking actually cutting, as in less money then they had the year before - should be easy.

 

Don't even start talking about how we need to increase military spending if you have one conservative bone in your body.

 

 

Posted by: jwest at October 22, 2013 11:28 AM (u2a4R)

351 His mother is 101. Her parents were quite long-lived as well. ...80 more years of Meggie. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 22, 2013 04:17 PM (/kI1Q) Grandma is thin and in good physical shape. Chubs -- not so much.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 22, 2013 11:28 AM (As/N8)

352 Pffft....taint nuthin. I'm well versed in the history of the automotive starter and alternator. You want boring?...I'll give you boring. Generator vs. alternator. Compare & contrast. Discuss...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 11:28 AM (h1D+w)

353 Speaking of small block Chevys (kinda), I saw the new Corvette for the first time in the flesh a couple days ago. It looks even worse than in pictures. No doubt that it's fast though.

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:29 AM (LSJmV)

354

>>>Not to mention the um enhancement surgery that I really don't need

 

arnold voice:

"It's not a tumescence"

/arnold voice

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 11:29 AM (3ZtZW)

355 The Zen of Knife-Sharpening.

Posted by: mrp at October 22, 2013 11:29 AM (HjPtV)

356 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:27 PM (oFCZn) Animal prints are teh hawt!

Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 11:29 AM (fWAjv)

357 jwest continues the theme of boring and tedious.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2013 11:29 AM (xWW96)

358 349 Just Keepin' it Real...Real Boring Open Thread Compliance Pic:

http://tinyurl.com/kkjgwxp

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 22, 2013 04:27 PM (oFCZn)


I suddenly have the urge to re-upholster my steering wheel.


Posted by: Ian Galt at October 22, 2013 11:29 AM (QdOC1)

359 332 The horrible jobs numbers for women mean nothing. They have proven they vote for liberals due to abortion. Aborting their children is more important than anything as the polls show. Posted by: Dan at October 22, 2013 04:24 PM (m3gf3) --------------------------- There are just as many, if not more, pro-life women as pro-abortion ones. That isn't the real issue. The reason women vote D is for free sh*t. They are not so much interested in jobs as in security.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 22, 2013 11:30 AM (dfYL9)

360 anyone up for the history of the balljoint or rack and pinion steering?

Posted by: Albert at October 22, 2013 11:30 AM (q+zA9)

361 Ahhh yes! The sound of...victory. Artillery booms reverbrating across the land from Ft Bragg. Can you dig it?

Posted by: fastfreefall at October 22, 2013 11:30 AM (qnIhA)

362 jwest still be trollin'

Posted by: Schrdinger's cat [/i] at October 22, 2013 11:30 AM (U2UQk)

363 Sonofabitchassmotherfucka!!! McCain considering seeking reelection in 2016 Go home you senile fuck!

Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 11:31 AM (fWAjv)

364

>>> just read the sidebar on how we haven't done any training in the Army for 6 months because of budget cutbacks.

 

Its OK we can just get a domestic response force just as well-funded, just as well-armed....

Posted by: Bigby's Severed Hand at October 22, 2013 11:31 AM (3ZtZW)

365 360 anyone up for the history of the balljoint or rack and pinion steering?

Posted by: Albert at October 22, 2013 04:30 PM (q+zA9)



Getting a little racy there . . .

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:31 AM (OZmbA)

366 Another step in the wussification of the US.  Parents of football player who team lost 91-0 file a complaint against the winning team alleging bullying.

http://tinyurl.com/khrxxw4

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 22, 2013 11:31 AM (XUKZU)

367 Ahem...OK tuff guys...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd9CxIlkjpk


Posted by: dananjcon at October 22, 2013 11:31 AM (wmU4G)

368 I saw Boring and Tedious open for Philip Glass in '92.

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:31 AM (LSJmV)

369 Don't even start talking about how we need to increase military spending if you have one conservative bone in your body. Eliminate EVERY department NOT SPECIFICALLY authorized by the US Constitution & they could have every penny they want.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 11:31 AM (h1D+w)

370 350 jwest at October 22, 2013 04:28 PM (u2a4R)

as opposed to your conservative stance on IPAB and Socialist medical...

I have made my peace with the BWOSTON STWONG Fi Con wing destroying the US military alongside the code pinkos...

but once my wife is fucked out of her pension after 16+ years you'll never find a bigger peacenik ever...

kick her out at 41 she will never rejoin sans enemy boots on this soil.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 11:31 AM (9jfyN)

371 If we need an armed response we can always call in the EPA.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2013 11:32 AM (xWW96)

372

335 >>>"If you want boring, I can discuss the history of the small block Chevy engine to those of you who aren't gearheads"

 

I'm not sure most people know or appreciate how the 283 changed into the low horsepower 307, while the 302 turned out to be the high performance choice for the Z/28.

 

You should enlighten them.

Posted by: jwest at October 22, 2013 11:32 AM (u2a4R)

373 The word 'boring' does not apply to most any woman I have known,

*waves*

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at October 22, 2013 11:32 AM (/kI1Q)

374 The next small block V8 from Chevy after the 265 was the 283 introduced in 1957

If you really want me to get boring, let me tell you about the 307 Chevy engine

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:32 AM (aTXUx)

375 369 rickb223 at October 22, 2013 04:31 PM (h1D+w)

I'd settle for dollar for dollar matching with the "civil service"...

I'm odd that way that ain't what BWOSTON SMAHT Luap Nor Kult sells though is it?

Posted by: sven10077 at October 22, 2013 11:33 AM (9jfyN)

376 passion for philately

Harry Reid is a secret philatelyist


He likes to lick 'em and stick 'em

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:33 AM (OZmbA)

377 Nood

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 22, 2013 11:33 AM (bCEmE)

378 234 Denise Milani Open Thread Compliance Pic:

http://tinyurl.com/o377gay


That link is gay.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 11:33 AM (SY2Kh)

379 Generator vs. alternator. Compare & contrast.
Discuss...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 04:28 PM (h1D+w)

**

Primarily alternators give you higher amperage at a lower RPM....


Alternators have the great advantage over direct-current generators of not using a commutator, which makes them simpler, lighter, less costly, and more rugged than a DC generator, and the slip rings allow for greatly extended brush life. The stronger construction of automotive alternators allows them to use a smaller pulley so as to turn faster than the engine, improving output when the engine is idling. The availability of low-cost solid-state diodes from about 1960 onward allowed car manufacturers to substitute alternators for DC generators. Automotive alternators use a set of rectifiers (diode bridge) to convert AC to DC. To provide direct current with low ripple, automotive alternators have a three-phase winding. In addition, the pole-pieces of the rotor are shaped (claw-pole) so as to produce a voltage waveform closer to a square wave that, when rectified by the diodes, produces even less ripple than the rectification of three-phase sinusoidal voltages.



Posted by: dananjcon at October 22, 2013 11:33 AM (wmU4G)

380 Let me be clear: 2014 damage, no. 2013, yes. He won't lose because of the shutdown, but any chance of a comeback by Ken Cuccinelli was buried under shutdown drama. The democrats will sweep all three state-wide races. This has enormous implications, because we will have an AG who will not only refuse to enforce the law here, but who will--I have no doubt--begin dismantling anything pro-liberty that has every come out of that office. People say it is hyperbole, but gun rights, in particular, will take a huge step backward in VA. Even if the assembly remains repulbical--and I'm not sure that is certain with the meltdown I see coming in two weeks--a gun hostile Attorney General can still do a lot of damage.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 22, 2013 11:34 AM (Y6CaM)

381 anyone up for the history of the balljoint or rack and pinion steering? Posted by: Albert at October 22, 2013 04:30 PM

Balljoints? Pffft. Now if you wanna talk about kingpins, we could get something going.

I can expound learnedly about SU carburetors, distributors of various makes and Hydra-Matic transmissions....

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 22, 2013 11:34 AM (kaGpp)

382 @22 "The average LIV doesn't remember alot, but they will remember that the GOP warned everyone about this and that they tried to stop it."

No, what the LIVs will be told, over and over again, was that ObamaCare was rushed into production because of Republican pressure, and that the Democrats really for reals wanted to make sure it was working because greatness, only the mean GOP House (which controls the entire world including the weather) made it all bad, because racism.

Posted by: Null at October 22, 2013 11:34 AM (xjpRj)

383 McCain knows what'll happen to his health care plan if he retires. McCain 2022 -- Let Me Tell You About The Time I Wore An Onion On My Belt.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 22, 2013 11:34 AM (Ec6wH)

384 Allow me to vice my opposition to the cries of "dementia!" and "senile!" when it comes to McCain. McCain is not suffering dementia. His mind is sharp as a tack, as is the knife he uses to carve up anyone he perceives as a threat to his way of living. He is a mean old fuck. He is a narcissistic old bastard who doesn't think twice about shanking the guy standing next to him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 11:35 AM (DmNpO)

385 How about a 5000 word essay on Felix Wankel's rotary engine?

Posted by: Fritz at October 22, 2013 11:35 AM (UzPAd)

386

What is this 'nood' of which you speak?  I need pictures.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2013 11:36 AM (OZmbA)

387 @380...So maybe West Virginia can pick up a few more counties from the Commonwealth. Breaks my heart--I had planned on settling down in Virginia when I left the military, but that'll never happen now.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 22, 2013 11:36 AM (Ec6wH)

388 True or False;

Chevy had a production 302 engine

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:37 AM (aTXUx)

389

Ignition timing?  Loosen set nut under distributor. While car idles twist distributor until motor sounds good. Tighten set screw. Turn idle screw to lower idle RPM as needed.

 

Test out at full throttle to make sure you didn't advance the timing to far. Repeat process until she sings just right.

 

 

Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2013 11:37 AM (1Y+hH)

390

Radiator caps bro.

 

Now that is some science!

 

Just how many PSI to keep?

Posted by: McBaggy pants at October 22, 2013 11:38 AM (q+zA9)

391 191 Over at Etsy - bastion of handmade liberal thought - they are moaning about Obamacare and one even said they were waiting for republicans to "take over power" so that it would be fixed. And this person claimed to be a democrat...

xx

I know a TON of uninsured Democrats that voted for O who are now CERTAIN that this will be overturned because of the Republicans and they won't have to worry about it.

They're also CERTAIN that if it does not get overturned, that they'll all get subsidies.

/hahahhahaha.

Posted by: shibumi at October 22, 2013 11:38 AM (25HWz)

392 True, first seen in one of the 602 1967 Z/28s.

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:38 AM (LSJmV)

393

"I saw the new Corvette for the first time in the flesh a couple days ago. It looks even worse than in pictures. No doubt that it's fast though."

 

This is the first year I haven't driven the new Corvette before it hit the showroom.

 

My brother ran an engineering group for GM and had responsibility for the powertrain in the Corvette.  His last project was with a Australian supplier developing the Kevlar torque tube.  He just retired for health reasons.

Posted by: jwest at October 22, 2013 11:39 AM (u2a4R)

394 True or False;

Chevy had a production 302 engine
**


True...I believe it was available in the early shoe box Novas.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 22, 2013 11:39 AM (wmU4G)

395 Almost sounds like we need a weekly car thread.

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:39 AM (LSJmV)

396 "Rumor has it that the HHS secretary has chosen this video as the soundtrack for a new ObamaCare ad:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9fw48r"


Gotta admit, that was probably the BEST vid that MTV ever showed!


Not best song, just best music video.(well, at least for straight men and probably most lesbians).


Posted by: HH at October 22, 2013 11:39 AM (XXwdv)

397 387 @380...So maybe West Virginia can pick up a few more counties from the Commonwealth. Breaks my heart--I had planned on settling down in Virginia when I left the military, but that'll never happen now. --- The liberals will never let them go. They want to control and modify behavior. Virginia is the Colorado of the East.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 22, 2013 11:39 AM (Y6CaM)

398

302 Chevy? True. Camaro had them around 1970, if memory serves.

 

I had a 283 bored .060 with an Edlebrock solid lifter cam, 286 duration, .450 lift. Three Rochester two barrels on an edelbrock high-rise manifold.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2013 11:39 AM (1Y+hH)

399 Radiator caps bro. Now that is some science! Just how many PSI to keep? 13?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 11:40 AM (h1D+w)

400 What is a good midsized SUV?

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 11:40 AM (Nx76m)

401 The Buick 215 V8 aluminum block

What company used it for 40 years after GM threw it out after 3 years?

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:42 AM (aTXUx)

402 NCKate at October 22, 2013 04:18 PM (83KrV) Best of luck... Can you siphon the tub water down the drain pipe from the outside?

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 22, 2013 11:42 AM (KoFMU)

403 What is a good midsized SUV?

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 04:40 PM (Nx76m)

**


My 2007 Escape 3.0L has 160,000 miles, new transmission last year. Its paid for, my wife will be driving it until the doors fall off.





Posted by: dananjcon at October 22, 2013 11:43 AM (wmU4G)

404 398
302 Chevy? True. Camaro had them around 1970, if memory serves.

I had a 283 bored .060 with an Edlebrock solid lifter cam, 286 duration, .450 lift. Three Rochester two barrels on an edelbrock high-rise manifold. Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2013 04:39 PM

The 302 was a limited edition available only in the 1969 Z-28 Camaro

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:43 AM (aTXUx)

405

 

Oh fantastic. McCain thinking about running in 2016?

 

 

If he gets the nod I won't have to worry about voting.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2013 11:43 AM (1Y+hH)

406

401 The Buick 215 V8 aluminum block

What company used it for 40 years after GM threw it out after 3 years?

 

My Triumph Stag had that Buick engine in it.

 

The timing chain was apparently made by Schwinn (as in bicycles) and was notorious for breaking.

Posted by: jwest at October 22, 2013 11:43 AM (u2a4R)

407 There's a great yellow pages reference (remember those?) that says: Boring: see Civil Engineers http://tinyurl.com/25koqgd And I really am named Texas. But the "Dan" is from Bahasa Indonesia. No really.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 22, 2013 11:45 AM (OKrkW)

408 Check out the lifters on this chick.....

http://tinyurl.com/mnl8gll

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 22, 2013 11:45 AM (oJ5Fd)

409 The Buick 215 V8 aluminum block

What company used it for 40 years after GM threw it out after 3 years?


Rover

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 11:45 AM (SY2Kh)

410 The 302 was a limited edition available only in the 1969 Z-28 Camaro

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 04:43 PM (aTXUx)

 

Hey I was pretty close! Used to outrun them in my 59 Vette. Then the Mopar Big Blocks showed up. Yikes. Went to 4.56 gears and caught back up but street racing was coming to an end.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2013 11:45 AM (1Y+hH)

411 Rover, Morgan, etal used the Buick V8. The 302 was the only available engine in the first gen Z/28s ('67-'69).

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 22, 2013 11:46 AM (LSJmV)

412 359, I hope you are right! I truly do, because if you are wrong, we have no hope electorally given the numbers. I thought this was the era of "strong women." who don't need the "free shit" you refer to. I know I love a strong woman I wouldn't think a feminist would want free shit. They should be able to get the shit for themselves. Or maybe they are just confused?

Posted by: Dan at October 22, 2013 11:47 AM (m3gf3)

413 406 401 The Buick 215 V8 aluminum blockWhat company used it for 40 years after GM threw it out after 3 years?

My Triumph Stag had that Buick engine in it.

The timing chain was apparently made by Schwinn (as in bicycles) and was notorious for breaking. Posted by: jwest at October 22, 2013 04:43 PM

Actually the Stag didn't use the 215, British Leyland did one of their usual clusterfucks by making their own 3.0 by welding together 2 Triumph slant 4 blocks. It was a disaster

The 215 was bought from GM by the Rover division and their metric identification of the 3.5 litre Rover was used in the Rovers and Land Rovers until 2007

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:48 AM (aTXUx)

414 @387 -- Big Fat Meanie --

Come to SW Virginia and see the number of vehicles with Gadsden flag  ("Don't Tread on Me") license plates. It would be interesting to see how many local LEOs would follow new anti-gun laws. 

Also, quite a few Special Forces veterans have retired out here. The mountains aren't as high as Afghanistan, but I bet they could prove every bit as problematic.


Posted by: Salt Lick at October 22, 2013 11:48 AM (CR1z2)

415 410 The 302 was a limited edition available only in the 1969 Z-28 Camaro

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 04:43 PM (aTXUx) Hey I was pretty close! Used to outrun them in my 59 Vette. Then the Mopar Big Blocks showed up. Yikes. Went to 4.56 gears and caught back up but street racing was coming to an end. Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2013 04:45 PM

I know we're trying to avoid controversy and argument here.. but ...

Small Block or Big Block?

I'm a small block man myself. Big blocks were for guys obsessed with size

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 11:50 AM (aTXUx)

416 391 I know a TON of uninsured Democrats that voted for O who are now CERTAIN that this will be overturned because of the Republicans and they won't have to worry about it. They're also CERTAIN that if it does not get overturned, that they'll all get subsidies. ---- This is the problem with too many "democrats." They never believe their own BS. I know many, many democrats who own guns and have concealed carry permits. They never believe that anyone in their party will do anything. They always say "I agree with you 100 percent, but the Republicans in the general assembly will stop that from happening." They're either hopelessly obtuse or incredibly naive. When I ask them what happens when the Republicans don't control the assembly anymore and we are facing Colorado-like new laws, they say "that will never happen."

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 22, 2013 11:53 AM (Y6CaM)

417

"Actually the Stag didn't use the 215, British Leyland did one of their usual clusterfucks by making their own 3.0 by welding together 2 Triumph slant 4 blocks. It was a disaster"

 

That's exactly right.  Mine had already gone through the original engine and had been retrofitted with the Buick before I bought it.

 

It was the only all aluminum V-8 that would fit.

Posted by: jwest at October 22, 2013 11:53 AM (u2a4R)

418 Nood.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2013 11:56 AM (h1D+w)

419 Small Block or Big Block?

I'm a small block man myself. Big blocks were for guys obsessed with size

Posted by: kbdabear at October 22, 2013 04:50 PM (aTXUx)

 

Small block. Big blocks in older vettes were not good. I drove one of those. Dangerous. I had a hopped up 283 over .060 to 292.

She was mean from a 10 mph roll. I'd jump out on most anybody and shut down before the big blocks could get wound up.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 22, 2013 12:03 PM (1Y+hH)

420 "Question...Are there really people who think at 16 day, partial government shutdown a year prior to the elections is going to do more damage to the GOP than the total failure of the Democrats signal domestic achievement in the last half century?"

Drew, you and your cohorts made the Republicans into losers.  You took President Obama, who was on a losing streak, and made him in to a winner.

You think that's not going to affect things over the next year?  Over then next month?  Then you're delusional.

You think things like that don't snowball?  Then you're not paying attention to history.

By picking a fight any even moderately intelligent person would KNOW you're going to lose, you made things more difficult for our side.  Whether or not we survive your stupidity, it was still a stupid thing to do.

Posted by: GregQ at October 22, 2013 12:13 PM (4Pleu)

421 It IS the greatest achievement in the last half century. And it will be made to work. Only racist haters believe otherwise.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at October 22, 2013 12:17 PM (ACq/K)

422

Don't fret Greg, if you want to "survive" with the GOP protecting you go right ahead.

I'm with the Conservative who will die fighting, not sniveling at those on the canvas standing for liberty.

I am sure your children will be proud.

 

 

Posted by: Pam at October 22, 2013 01:08 PM (cgrL5)

423 Coulter made the point last night on Hannity.  LIKELY voters are 50/50 on blaming the Reps and Dems for the shutdown.  This health tax debacle is going to sting EVERYONE except for pre-existers.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at October 22, 2013 01:36 PM (/rhjC)

424 Court-at-law judge switches to Democratic Party

http://tinyurl.com/k6jje2k

Ugh Texas no less.  Can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: just a citizen at October 22, 2013 06:03 PM (Nx76m)

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