January 30, 2010

Advice for Governor Palin [OregonMuse]
— Open Blog

Perhaps it's time for another thread.

Most of you aren't going to know who Gary North is, and that's probably just as well. He's a somewhat marginal figure on the Christian right best known for making wild predictions of apocalyptic disasters which always fail to materialize, culminating ten years ago in him going all in on Y2K. North has a smallish band of devoted followers, but most everyone else on the Christian right thinks of him, if at all, as a nutcase. He's kind of like the stereotypical mad scientist. I can well imagine him with a crazy glint in his eye and screaming "Mad, am I!? I'll show them! My theories are sound!" He likes to dabble in things perhaps best left alone and his failed experiments wreak havoc.

His political beliefs most closely resemble those of the paleocon right. He's written many articles that appear at LewRockwell.com.

But just when you're about to write him off completely, he comes up with something that makes such perfect sense that you wonder why it hasn't been thought of sooner.

Therefore, I am intrigued by his views and so I subscribe to his newsletter.

Below the fold, I have cut and pasted North's latest newsletter, which contains his advice for Sarah Palin. I thought it was, well, intriguing, as it is a blueprint for taking back the country, one small step at a time. Discuss among yourselves, if you feel so inclined.
DEAR GOVERNOR PALIN

I am writing this to you on the outside possibility that in this, the world of six degrees of separation -- also known as the Kevin Bacon game -- someone will hand you a print-out of this letter and say, "This guy is kind of weird, but maybe this could work."

Let's clear the deck from the beginning. I am asking you to make some specific preparations. Then, when you have your ducks in a row -- and your trusty 12-gauge shotgun is loaded -- you will hold a press conference. You will deliver a speech.

Here is my suggested draft of your speech.

* * * * * * * * *

Thank you all for coming.

Today, I make two pledges. First, I promise to work very hard to avoid providing any more skit material for Tina Fey.
Second, I am not going to run for President. Ever. No matter what.

Let me tell you why.

I am going to host some tea parties -- a whole lot of tea parties.

I never played tea party in my youth. I preferred to go hunting. Now I am going to play tea party and go hunting, too.
I will not be hunting moose. I am after bigger game: incumbent politicians.

A few years back, I got into politics. I got elected mayor of a small town. Then I got elected governor in a very large state. Not people big -- geography big.

I am going to spend the next 25 years training overtaxed, over-regulated, politician-scoffed-at voters to do what I did.

I have just signed a contract with Fox News. I have agreed not to run for any political office, ever. I will therefore not come under any Federal Communications Commission rules governing equal time. I am here for the long haul on this basis: no equal time. I will get all of it unless I get fired. Then I will do it on some cable channel or on YouTube.

My show will have one overriding theme: grassroots political mobilization.

Until there is a grassroots rebellion, county by county, nothing is going to change inside the Washington Beltway.
Congress never changes. It just makes more promises it can't fulfill. It then spends more borrowed money, trying to fulfill old promises. The Federal government is one giant Ponzi scheme of promises. Over the next decade, the biggest of these promises will be broken.

Social Security will go bankrupt this year. It now spends more money than Social Security taxes bring in. It is quietly siphoning off billions of dollars a year out of the general fund.

Medicare went bust three years ago.

The FDIC, which insures the nation's banks, went bust last September. Same solution: siphon off money from the general fund.

But the general fund went $1.4 trillion in the hole in 2009.
It is expected to go another $1.3 trillion in the hole this year.
And on and on and on it goes; where it stops, nobody knows.
There is no light at the end of this tunnel.

Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve System just keeps printing more money. The biggest broken promise in America is the promise that the Federal Reserve gave back in 1913 - stable money. The dollar's purchasing power is down by 95% ever since the Federal Reserve opened its doors in 1914.

There will not be reform at the top of the pyramid until there is a political earthquake at the bottom.

It's time for some tea parties.

Locally, taxes are up. Crime is up. Insecurity is up.
Government regulation of our families is up.

The main thing that is down is public high school test scores. The public schools are a disaster and getting worse.

I am going to train people to take America back from the incumbent politicians.

The tea parties will be local. They will be everywhere.
They will be a permanent fixture of the American scene. I will do my bit to provide some training.

I have set up a new organization: County Rights, Incorporated. The doctrine of states rights is way too centralized for me. We need determined voters to take back their counties as a first step to taking back their states.

I'm not saying I won't be talking about national politics and the disasters that Congress and the bureaucrats are overseeing. But my focus will be clear: you can't have a clean sweep of Washington until you control the broom. The broom handle is in the counties.

There are 3141 counties in the United States. Most of them are rural. Most of them can be taken over by a dedicated hard core of voters who have an agenda. I am going to help train voters who have this agenda: resist Washington.

This is a free country. We are allowed as voters to shape politics. I am going to help train those voters who are ready to re-shape politics, beginning in their counties.

That's not to say I'm not in favor of training people to take over small towns. I love small towns. Most of all, politically speaking, I love small towns with low taxes. I intend to help create a whole lot more of them.

You have heard the old saying, "Support your local sheriff."
The sheriff is the armed law enforcement agent of the county government. You had better get control the government that hires the local sheriff. Then support him.

I am going to be on the road. I will do my Fox News show, but I will be appearing all over the country on a regular basis.
I will not be running for anything. I will be training people to run for everything: school boards, county commissions, everything.

When the officers of the Federal government come to town to tell folks what to do, they will be greeted by citizens who know their rights and who are willing to sue the Federal government for any violation of any of the ten amendments. My favorite is the second amendment, but they are all great . . . and they are all being violated by Washington.

I am going to recruit local lawyers who will sue the Federal government. I am going to recruit lawyers to train local citizens to sue the Federal government. I am going to set up a YouTube channel for lawyers to train people to sue the Federal government.

I will have them create downloadable forms for suing the Federal government. Why have just one local lawyer or local agency suing the Federal government? Why not hundreds of lawsuits, from everyone locally who has had his rights violated?

Paper is cheap. Toner is cheap. Let's get those laser printers rolling!

We are going to raise Washington's cost of invading local counties. We are going to meet the bureaucrats with legal resistance. Before some Federal agency sends out a Federal Marshal to start telling a county what to do, it had better set aside a few million dollars of its annual budget to pay the legal fees. This will be good news for lawyers on the staffs of those agencies. It will be bad news for every other staffer.

I believe in the legal system. I believe in using it.

While I'm on the topic of the legal system, I plan to set up a program to train citizens in the rights of juries. The jury system is the backbone of liberty in the United States. When a jury declares "not guilty," that's the end of the case. The law against double jeopardy goes into effect.

Jurors need to know that they are sovereign inside the jury room. No judge can tell them what to do or say. No other government official has a right to be inside that room. In that room, twelve citizens decide.

I am going to recruit lawyers to teach people their rights as jurors. That will make a great YouTube channel.

I love YouTube. The other video hosting sites are great, too. I will use more than one. So will the specialists I recruit.

This is democracy in action inside a Constitutional republic. We still have a Constitution. We still have a republic. Democracy has long been in a coma at the county level.
I think I can help awaken it.

But what about political liberals? Don't they have a say?
You bet! They get to compete, too. The more, the merrier, I say. But they had better compete first at the county level.
They had better decide that their liberties must be defended locally if these liberties are to be preserved from the grasping hand of Congress and the Washington bureaucracies, who are pushing this nation into bankruptcy.

Let the political competition begin . . . in the counties.

Maybe you want to know what my view of government is.
Government comes in four forms: self-government, family government, church government, and civil government.

By far, self-government is the most important. Where it is absent, there is lawlessness. In response, people have to spend more money and time on the other three. When self-government declines, anarchy and tyranny increase.

I have a theory of civil government. Civil government is about inflicting pain. That is its whole purpose: to inflict pain on people who are convicted by a jury of their peers of having inflicted pain on others.

The day that civil government got into the happiness- producing business, it began inflicting pain on people who had not inflicted pain on others. It began taxing people, not to protect them, but to pay off special-interest groups whose candidates won the last election.

Civil government started borrowing from Peter to pay Paul, and it has never stopped. One of these days it will default on this debt. Peter will get nothing, and Paul, now addicted to government money, will face a catastrophe.

I am dead set against any view of civil government that tries to make people good. It can't make anyone good. Civil government is hard-pressed these days just to keep people from using violence and fraud against their neighbors.

A civil government that tries to do more than punishing violence and fraud will eventually wind up committing violence and fraud on a huge scale -- way beyond what any local criminal syndicate can impose.

So, that's my message. It can be summarized in five points, like the digits on your hand. The crucial point is like your thumb. It makes all the difference.

Self-government under God

The other four follow:

County rights
Cut taxes
Resist Washington
Use the courts

If you get invited to one of my tea parties, I sure hope you will attend.

And thanks, Tina, for all the great publicity.

* * * * * * * * *

Well, that's it. If you do this, you will inflict more pain on the Washington political establishment than any other ex- governor, including Ronald Reagan.

This is what Washington fears most: grassroots political mobilization. That would threaten the concentration of power, the growth of the debt, and the permanent immunity of the Federal Reserve System more than anything else.

Conservatives for 40 years have talked about the need for grassroots political mobilization, but they always set up money- raising operations inside the Beltway or across the county line.
Why? Because that's where the power is and therefore where the fundraising opportunities are.

What we need is the decentralization of power. We need someone who has a national political reputation to mobilize voters and jurors at the county level. Is this you?

You may not want to appear too extreme. If so, you won't want to use my slogan: "State's rights are for commies." But it gets across my outlook.

On the 2010 bankruptcy of Social Security, click here:

http://LewRockwell.com/north/north790.html

On the 2009 bankruptcy of the FDIC, click here:

http://GaryNorth.com/public/6025.cfm

On the depreciation of the dollar since 1914, click here:

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

On the size of the Federal debt, click here:

http://mwhodges.home.att.net/debt-summary-table.htm

Three more items. First, I wrote about my strategy for local politics 25 years ago. I got it published 10 years ago.
It's called "the dogcatcher strategy." Just search Google. Or click here:

http://LewRockwell.com/north/north21.html

Second, I own http://www.CountyRights.com. I'll give it to you if you want to do something creative with it.

Third, I suggest a logo for you. Every mass movement needs a logo. Yours should be an empty lipstick tube. On one side are these words:

Too many pigs

On the other side are these words:

Too much pork

Hand out one to everyone who comes to your press conferences. Sell them at your tea parties. Sell them on-line at http://www.TooManyPigs.com. I own http://www.TooManyPigs.com.
You can have
it, too.

Sincerely yours,

Gary North

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1

The words 'too much pork' cannot be strung together in that sequence and maintain any kind of logical or aesthetic coherence.  You might as well say 'purple monkey dishwasher'.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at January 30, 2010 07:48 AM (pZEar)

2 Makes some interesting point, not that Palin will follow it.  I do feel she should not run for office.  She has more influence not doing so IMO.  This isn't true for everyone, but in her case it fits.

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 30, 2010 07:49 AM (9zzk+)

Posted by: CTN at January 30, 2010 07:50 AM (DV0Qe)

4 Short Version:
Sarah Palin makes a hell-of-a-good Newt Gingrich replacement.

Someone who can unabashedly call the other side out on issues. Someone who makes their heads explode. Someone with a lot more personal charisma and appeal.

I don't know if she has to take the stance of swearing off running though. Just having her on the damn stage would keep some of the other idiots more honest. The crucial issue would be making sure people "go along" if she endorses someone. (Having people vote in sizable numbers for candidates that have bowed out of the race is really a pathetic way to lose anything.)

Posted by: Al at January 30, 2010 07:51 AM (0lyUI)

5 Sometimes even a lunatic can add.

Posted by: eman at January 30, 2010 07:51 AM (4tixt)

6 tl;dr

I got the gist, though. It's the right approach.

Posted by: S. Weasel at January 30, 2010 07:53 AM (7ccPl)

7 This dog don't hunt.

Posted by: sissoed at January 30, 2010 07:54 AM (XpBZo)

8 I'm going to make a wild guess and predict that Petite Verdant Globes will slam AoS for linking to the evilly evil Lew Rockwell. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 30, 2010 07:54 AM (sey23)

9 There is not much of a reason that she cannot do this AND run for office. Matter of fact she can start sending folks to Congress NOW for when she gets into office then.

Posted by: PierreLegrand at January 30, 2010 07:55 AM (PlaY9)

10
You know what would be nice?

If Republicans stop coming up with plans to 'fix' the economy or 'create' jobs. We need a Republican party that is centered on a strict No Meddling policy.

The reason why costs of college tuition, health insurance, etc. are increasing exponentially is because government keeps meddling.

The worsening recession we're in right now is a perfect example of how government meddling hurts the private sector and prolongs recessions.

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 07:55 AM (jVldi)

11

I don't know why so many dumb-asses feel compelled to give advice to Sarah Palin, especially since they make it clear that they do not have a clue as to who she is or why she has done what she has done.

NEWSFLASH -- that is, newsflash to anyone who has not been bothering to pay attention -- Palin does not intend to run for president.  She has not intended to do so for a very long time.  So, it really isn't necessary for her to announce that she is not going to do so.

But if there are dumb-asses out there who continue to believe that she will -- especially those on the left -- there is no reason for her to correct them.  Let them continue to misunderstand her.  That has only worked to her advantage every time.

Posted by: Bender at January 30, 2010 07:56 AM (802+s)

12 @10

Woof, woof!

Posted by: Y-not's collie at January 30, 2010 07:56 AM (sey23)

13 The reason she has to get into office is to expose all the corruption that only a President will see. This is why everyone on the left and right is so damn committed to killing her Presidential aspirations. There be skeletons in them thar closets...big nasty scary ones. We need Sara to shed some light on them. She can only do this from within the beast.

Posted by: PierreLegrand at January 30, 2010 07:57 AM (PlaY9)

14 Don't know much about Gary North, but Evangelical Christians have been predicting the apocalypse for over a century, and while you can scoff all you want, it does feel like we keep getting closer and closer to it. Their timetable may be off, but as history has shown us, everything comes to an end. So, you can't really jeer too loudly. Things may not be happening for the reasons they think they are, but things are definitely happening, and it really is sort creepy that those events are surrounding the middle east.

Then again, it was actually Heroditus, way back when, who thought that the ultimate conflict would be between east and west, simply because they are so different from one another.

Posted by: Robin at January 30, 2010 07:57 AM (LOWXN)

15
I have agreed not to run for any political office, ever. I will therefore not come under any Federal Communications Commission rules governing equal time.

That's the most important part, right there.  North is a looney asshole, but he had a simple and elegant idea with that one.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 07:58 AM (SWzJP)

16 This guy is advising Sarah Palin to do what she announced she was going to do last summer.  That's some quick thinking.

Posted by: huerfano at January 30, 2010 07:58 AM (sf1Eo)

17 Some good, general thoughts on staying away from Presidential campaigns to go after incumbants.  The details are strictly loony, though.  Even most nutbars dismissed the County Rights (aka Wise Use) movement by the mid-90's.  It inevitably led to a few people holed up in a mountain bunker in the West surrounded by law enforcement.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 30, 2010 07:58 AM (woIDc)

18
So, you can't really jeer too loudly.

The hell I can't.  Or won't.  The sky is not falling.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 07:58 AM (SWzJP)

19

NEWSFLASH -- that is, newsflash to anyone who has not been bothering to pay attention -- Palin does not intend to run for president.

Hmmm evidence to support this?

Posted by: PierreLegrand at January 30, 2010 07:58 AM (PlaY9)

20 So what he is saying is all politics is local.  Quit waiting for someone to come along and change your tire.  Grab the tire iron yourself.  Put the tow trucks out of business.

Posted by: mama winger at January 30, 2010 08:00 AM (Ue9UN)

21 Most of you don't know who Gary North is, and that's probably just as well. He's a somewhat marginal figure on the Christian right best known for making wild predictions of apocalyptic disasters which always fail to materialize, culminating ten years ago in him going all in on Y2K.

You're right. Never heard of the guy until now.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 30, 2010 08:00 AM (8PFPH)

22 I don't think Palin is going to run for office again, but who knows.

Regardless, I consider it poor strategy to tell your opponent what you intend to do.  The best thing about Sarah is she marches to her own drumbeat.

Posted by: Amused Observer at January 30, 2010 08:00 AM (EioPx)

23

How come nobody ever offers Huckabee advice?  People love to offer Palin advice on how to not run for office.  People love to offer Romney advice on how to run for office.  The offer Jindal advice on which office to run for.  But nobody ever feels compelled to sit down and write out advice for Huckabee.

Posted by: myrenovations at January 30, 2010 08:00 AM (XmuzY)

24 Glenn Beck is doing a good job of this already.

Posted by: dri at January 30, 2010 08:01 AM (qLZ+x)

25
Perfect thread for the Concern Trolls© to show up in, btw.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 08:01 AM (SWzJP)

26 Irrespective of whether any of us thinks she intends to run for President, the fact is that without that idea hanging over the heads of her opponents, liberals and conservatives alike, she wouldn't be as influential as she is now. It is then, in my opinion, political suicide for her to follow the advice given so gratuitously above, by this nutter or any other person.

Posted by: Victoria at January 30, 2010 08:02 AM (3sdjL)

27 #23  Because no one is afraid of Huckabee.

Posted by: mama winger at January 30, 2010 08:02 AM (Ue9UN)

28 Regardless, I consider it poor strategy to tell your opponent what you intend to do.

Well, most times you do this, your enemies don't pay attention, so it's pretty safe.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 30, 2010 08:03 AM (hoowK)

29 Gary North, isn't he that porn star dude?

Posted by: Vageena Hertz at January 30, 2010 08:04 AM (Dql49)

30 #23  Because no one is afraid of Huckabee.

Heh. Good point.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 30, 2010 08:06 AM (hoowK)

31 As a concerned Evangelical Christian, I am concerned with how many concerns I have about-- ah screw it, I'm too tired to play the concerned BS today.  The only thing I want Sarah Palin to do is to let me lie my head on her lap and stroke my hair while she sings me lullaby songs. Is that wrong?

Posted by: Lincoln Adams at January 30, 2010 08:07 AM (UqJ8A)

32 Regardless, I consider it poor strategy to tell your opponent what you intend to do. The best thing about Sarah is she marches to her own drumbeat. Posted by: Amused Observer at January 30, 2010 01:00 PM (EioPx) Yeah and with a nice set of legs also

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 30, 2010 08:07 AM (0GFWk)

33 Jurors need to know that they are sovereign inside the jury room. No judge can tell them what to do or say.
-------------------

Yeah, just ask the O.J. jury. I'm not sure what North means by this, unless it's some boneheaded notion that the common folk are wiser than some city-educated judge fella in his fancy black robes.

The CRI? Will get boring fast, will have no power, will fracture on socon vs. solib issues, and doesn't seem to have any strategy or solid goal.

I'd like to see Sarah get back on her feet and run for prez. She was feistier and smarter in the campaign than she has been since.

Posted by: arhooley at January 30, 2010 08:07 AM (NIF3r)

34 When you start by a Tina Fey reference, you've already lost the plot, you're taking
the deeply stupid into account, 'how'd that work out for you' She fired salvoes into
cap n trade, death panels, the public option, the closing Gitmo idiocy. It's not her fault that everyone from McCain to Chambliss can't follow a simple and straight
forward message, or Graham is still dabbling with Cap n Trade,

Posted by: ian cormac at January 30, 2010 08:07 AM (EKsuG)

35

mmmmmm . . . Sarah Palin.

 

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 30, 2010 08:08 AM (1unj7)

36 Possibly Huckabee is already far better at running for office than he'd be at being in the office.

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at January 30, 2010 08:08 AM (pla1I)

37 My ability to take this "proposal" seriously ended with this line: Today, I make two pledges. First, I promise to work very hard to avoid providing any more skit material for Tina Fey.

North is an idiot.

There are plenty of right-leaning leaders and entities working to mobilize the conservative grassroots. Quite effectively.

Palin is more than a figurehead or human talisman. I think she has and has demonstrated as Governor the sort of governing instincts that will allow her to make tough correct far-sighted decisions even when all the conventional Washington wisdom says not to do so. She's fearless and she has common sense (not to mention the common touch).

That's what you need in a President. It's silly to ask her to take herself out of the running for some fictive "community organizer" role that wouldn't actually contribute anything to the conservative cause that isn't already there.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at January 30, 2010 08:09 AM (+deq6)

38 Why no advice for the Huckster?  Because he is unelectable.  He had too many shady dealings where he made enormous monetary gains while still serving as govenor; his startling rise to the top caught the MSM off guard.  Also, his religious background is even more off-putting to moderates then Palin's. 

He should stick with trying to be the next Paul Harvey.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 30, 2010 08:10 AM (woIDc)

39 Possibly Huckabee is already far better at running for office than he'd be at being in the office.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 30, 2010 08:12 AM (9Wv2j)

40 Well, the fundamental problems we face are:

1) Most people are to the right of "center" but they don't care enough about politics to really understand the issues.

2) Most conservatives are busy with life - jobs, families, etc. We don't have a group of slackers and the idle rich to exploit, let alone a system designed to produce activists.

3) The Left uses the government as a carrot and a stick. Do what they want and you get a bribe. Oppose what they want and you get regulated, investigated, and harassed. Conservatives value the rule of law too much to use government in this way.

This plan would help at least with the top two areas, so it is not a bad start.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2010 08:12 AM (bgcml)

41 Not to be picky, but Paul was looking for the immanence of the Eschaton.

Posted by: PKO Strany at January 30, 2010 08:13 AM (1rQWu)

42

You know what pisses me off about Tina Fey?   After the movie "Mean Girls," I thought - here's a woman who understands how catty, inappropriate, lazy women so often destroy all respect for other women.   How we should respect our own bodies and each other.  How men will not repect us if we don't respect ourselves.  I thought she 'got it.'  I thought she was someone from the entertainment industry who could actually uplift young women and encourage them to respect themselves and each other, to reach for the stars and achieve.

As a women in a completely male -dominated, very aggressive profession (only 4 women in about 55 men in our city doing what I do), that thought was very comforting to me.

Her attacks on a compentent and experience Sarah Palin show who she really is . . . another Holywood dingbat whore with no clue and no understanding of what is important.  I admired her before and hate her now.

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 30, 2010 08:13 AM (1unj7)

43 Well, most times you do this, your enemies don't pay attention, so it's pretty safe.

Be that as it may, you are then relying on luck and not strategic thinking. 

Posted by: Amused Observer at January 30, 2010 08:13 AM (EioPx)

44

This sounds like a great plan if you live in Podunk, Iowa.  The problem we have now is that more people live in cities than outside of them.  And cities are cesspools of waste, welfare dependency, crime, corruption, bad schools, and high taxes, all produced by liberal government.  Most people who live in cities are not property owners and don't care about the government taking away property rights.  They don't own guns and they don't care about government taking away gun rights.  They are worker bees and don't care about free speech because everyone they know thinks like they do.  They work for a salary and never contemplate how much of their paycheck goes to government, and they don't care about things like increasing business taxes, licensing fees, capial gains taxes, bank taxes, etc.

They are the "takers" and now that there are more of them than us they are going to keep voting themselves more and more of our money.

Posted by: rockmom at January 30, 2010 08:14 AM (w/gVZ)

45 I don't mind if some of these ideas make it into the Republican party platform, but don't let these zealots get into your county government.
They are disruptive and militant, and once they infiltrate (ie, get elected as chairman or precinct chair), they don't show up any more.

Politics on the county level is donkey work. Watch out for these ideological blowhards.

Posted by: mongerel at January 30, 2010 08:15 AM (ZszgD)

46

They are the "takers" and now that there are more of them than us they are going to keep voting themselves more and more of our money.

Posted by: rockmom at January 30, 2010 01:14 PM (w/gVZ)

Completely correct.

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 30, 2010 08:16 AM (1unj7)

47 I think few are qualified to give Sarah Palin political advise.

Posted by: eman at January 30, 2010 08:16 AM (4tixt)

48

guy doesn't know what he's talking about on so much, palin would be stupid to repeat the "Dollar has lost 95% of its value since 1914" idiocy.  Sure it has, except for the fact dollars are alot easier to come by, we aren't 95% poorer than we were in 1914 you retard

Posted by: jp at January 30, 2010 08:16 AM (6ewEr)

49 Start from the bottom up. Personally, I called the local GOP office and will start assisting next week.  The socialist democrats have awakened a sleeping giant.

Posted by: jukin at January 30, 2010 08:17 AM (vkkNZ)

50 Greetings from Podunk.

Posted by: hillbilly sue at January 30, 2010 08:17 AM (Ue9UN)

51

guy is a paultard lunatic btw, all he does is predict economic doomsday

Posted by: jp at January 30, 2010 08:17 AM (6ewEr)

52 And they say I'm the black sheep of the North family... bah... Gary's got me beat

Posted by: Truman North at January 30, 2010 08:17 AM (FjC5u)

53 I only have the ability to see typos after I hit 'post.'  It's a disability.  Not covered by the Americans with Disability Act (yet).

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 30, 2010 08:18 AM (1unj7)

54 Politics on the county level is donkey work.



I think you may be in the wrong party.

Posted by: mama winger at January 30, 2010 08:19 AM (Ue9UN)

55 I think few are qualified to give Sarah Palin political advise.

Posted by: eman at January 30, 2010 01:16 PM (4tixt)

What he said.

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 30, 2010 08:19 AM (1unj7)

56 "But just when you're about to write him off completely, he comes up with something that makes such perfect sense that you wonder why it hasn't been thought of sooner." I think you jumped the gun on this one.

Posted by: eman at January 30, 2010 08:20 AM (4tixt)

57 I saved some of Mr. North's y2k stuff back in the day because I knew how entertaining it would be on 1/1/2000 and beyond. Shortly thereafter, I realized that I couldn't read any of it without my brain hurting.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 30, 2010 08:20 AM (5I0Yr)

58
I think you may be in the wrong party.

Posted by: mama winger at January 30, 2010 01:19 PM (Ue9UN)


I think you know what I mean.

Posted by: mongerel at January 30, 2010 08:20 AM (ZszgD)

59

Her attacks on a compentent and experience Sarah Palin show who she really is . . . another Holywood dingbat whore with no clue and no understanding of what is important.  I admired her before and hate her now.

Posted by: Jade Sea at January 30, 2010 01:13 PM (1unj7)

We are the enemy to them. And liberals well know what to do to their enemies.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2010 08:21 AM (bgcml)

60 Random thoughts Someone needs to send North that writing advice about keeping it short. I think Obumble disproves unelectable because of known dirty dealings. Of course the MarxistSpewingMedia would only cover for Yuckabee until he got the R party nomination unless they decided they needed a scapegoat after the mess the socialists are digging us into. I don't understand people fearing Sarah's faith. I haven't studied her in depth but everything I have seen suggests she has a strong personal faith and an equally strong belief in separation of church and state. Pretty sure that cannot be said for Yuckabee.

Posted by: paleRider at January 30, 2010 08:22 AM (kb7sI)

61
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Compliance inside a system does not assure compliance with outside systems. The two systems have to be designed to be compliant with each other before either is repaired. For example, the date system must be the same. The four-digit entry for a year must be in the same location in both systems.

Problem: there is no agreement here. There is no standard. There is no agency coordinating the repairs. See the letter from Mr. Chris Murphy of Social Securtity.

Mr. Murphy is responding to a question on seemingly non-compliant date standards. He responds by admitting that there is no standard -- just recommendations -- within the U.S. government. Then he tries to explain the seeming confusion of the standards. Does anyone seriously think that there will not be chaos in the year 2000 when standards are this confusing and not even enforceable? If all the government can do is "highly recommend" a standard, then there is no standard. If there is no standard, there will be chaos. Now, multiply this across every government, bank, and computer- driven system on earth.
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Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 30, 2010 08:24 AM (5I0Yr)

62
Someone needs to send North that writing advice about keeping it short.

Yeah, Truman.  You just go on and on and on.  Put a sock in it already.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 08:24 AM (SWzJP)

63
Here's some advice to Huckabee: Why don't you convince Pawlenty, Romney and McCain to come out with you as closet democrats?

Posted by: Flying Monkey at January 30, 2010 08:25 AM (Oxen1)

64 I hope Palin stays out of the 2012 presidential election.  I wouldn't want her to become a distraction.  I know Palin is popular in some circles and she drives democrats to distraction (which is a good thing).  But let's be honest, she's a bit of a dingbat.  At scripted speeches with a teleprompter, she can give an amazing speech.  But take her off the script, OOOFAA. 

Glenn Beck asked her who her favorite founding father was and the train came off the track.  She looked blank for a second or too and then said "All of them."  She then talked about how the founders came together in collectivism and diversity.  WTF?  It reminded me of that rambling interview she gave to Katie Couric where she explained how she had foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia. 

Palin as president?  No thanks!

Posted by: Dana White at January 30, 2010 08:25 AM (69y7b)

65

everyone wants the other guy/girl to sacrifice his/her ambitions and future plans to help the party.

the unspoken theme is that she is not ready for prime time therefore should devote herself to grunt work for a long while, kind of thinking that the Left have been peddling.  sad to see someone on our side buys into it too.

Posted by: canuk at January 30, 2010 08:26 AM (LN9Ve)

66 Off topic...
Got a 401k?  Not for long!
http://tinyurl.com/ych8cnt

Posted by: gringo at January 30, 2010 08:29 AM (ALMG2)

67 At scripted speeches with a teleprompter, she can give an amazing speech.  But take her off the script, OOOFAA.


Worked for us.

Posted by: Barry O and the Blarney Stone at January 30, 2010 08:29 AM (Ue9UN)

68

All politics is local.

Everyone gets ginned up for the big glamour election every four years but many of those same people cannot tell you the name of their congress-critter or senator. Get down on a more local level, like state senator or city council, and you might as well be talking to a trout.

How the hell do the nutcases get into a position to run on a national level? By first conquering the locality. If people don't become a whole lot more concerned with voting for their own judges and council folk, they can forget ever getting a grip on them once they are running things in D.C., where they will have a whole lot of other like-minded crooks covering their ass.

As for the letter of advice, I suspect Palin is already headed down this path but, of course, once her path becomes known to all she will be accused of taking counsel from a right-wing Christian lunatic. Then again, I doubt she'll be deterred by fear of association.

I mean, Levy is still welcome to dinner, right?

Posted by: jmflynny at January 30, 2010 08:29 AM (rxj33)

69 Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.  What was the line; 'given enough monkeys, enough typewriters, and enough time - they'd write all the works of Shakespeare.  So for ONCE in his life, North has a good idea.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 30, 2010 08:29 AM (ZQBnQ)

70 My advice for Governor Palin:  Don't listen to Gary North, and never, ever, link to Lew Rockwell.

Posted by: blaster at January 30, 2010 08:29 AM (su3hy)

71

Some good ideas there - but taking over, say, Cook County, Illinois?  Where Chicago is?  Home to the Daley political machine, not to mention the Todd Stroger county political machine?

Ahhhhhhh, not gonna happen.

Ummmmm, on second thought, if you unleashed citizens filing lawsuits at the county level, maybe it could work.

Posted by: MrJimm at January 30, 2010 08:33 AM (hdFYN)

72 guy is a paultard lunatic btw, all he does is predict economic doomsday

Well, when each government statistic on the economy comes out, I'm guessing he doesn't say it was "unexpected".

Also, take a gander outside. Unless you're a Goldman Sachs banker, it is "economic doomsday".

Yes, "broken clocks" and all of that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 30, 2010 08:34 AM (H8eTR)

73 64) I think you're looking at the wrong candidate, the one who needs a teleprompter to talk to the press, after he's addressed a bunch of school
kids, Couric wouldn't have understood her role in missile defense, as the
lack of reaction to Biden's whopper about FDR shows.

Tina wrote and had a role in "Mean Girls" as the math teacher, slandered by the plastics, yet when reality hit, that's what she became, along with Lindsay Lohan
the other ph.d candidate on that crew

Posted by: ian cormac at January 30, 2010 08:34 AM (EKsuG)

74 Posted by: Dana White at January 30, 2010 01:25 PM (69y7b)

Let me guess....you're a concerned conservative, right? 

She prefaced her answer with 'all of them', Glenn interrupted her with his 'crap' response and she then went on to complete her answer, explaining why she favored George Washington.

Posted by: Tami at January 30, 2010 08:34 AM (VuLos)

75 Glenn Beck asked her who her favorite founding father was and the train came off the track. She looked blank for a second or too and then said "All of them." She then talked about how the founders came together in collectivism and diversity. WTF? It reminded me of that rambling interview she gave to Katie Couric where she explained how she had foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia.

Posted by: Dana White at January 30, 2010 01:25 PM (69y7b)

I'm surprised Keith Olbermann let you take enough of a break from his afternoon "massage" to let you type this out.

Good for Keith. Friend of the working man.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at January 30, 2010 08:35 AM (+deq6)

76 At least her favorite Founding Father isn't Vladimir Lenin.

Posted by: mama winger at January 30, 2010 08:36 AM (Ue9UN)

77 1 You might as well say 'purple monkey dishwasher'. ----------- Times are tough. Sometimes you need a bit of extra spending money.

Posted by: Grape Ape, down on his luck at January 30, 2010 08:37 AM (LD+ZJ)

78 CBS just showed Barack and Biden at the Duke/Georgetown game. Neither of them looked like they could care less, though I'm sure Biden is just confused as to why these guys are trying to throw a ball at a metal rim.

Posted by: Doc at January 30, 2010 08:37 AM (rzJpR)

79

So, who is your favorite founding father?

Frankly, it's a bullshit question. On the spur of the moment, to be asked to evaluate, contrast and compare, and select form THAT group of individuals who is her favorite.

That's kind of like asking "Which is your favorite child?"

Posted by: jmflynny at January 30, 2010 08:38 AM (rxj33)

80 @20 "So what he is saying is all politics is local.  Quit waiting for someone to come along and change your tire.  Grab the tire iron yourself.  Put the tow trucks out of business."


The problem is, people who watch politics on cable news/blogs etc for entertainment find local local politics a dreadful bore.  That's where the Rotary-Scouts-PTA leaders shine.  We have local bloggers here who never blog about local shit, always the Big Picture.  They draw a blank about local issues because they never pay attention to them.

Posted by: Sacajewea at January 30, 2010 08:38 AM (2SxDI)

81 You might as well say 'purple monkey dishwasher'. ----------- Times are tough. Sometimes you need a bit of extra spending money. Posted by: Grape Ape, down on his luck Can't you work & talk at the same time? We're out of spoons again!

Posted by: Magillah Gorilla, waiter at January 30, 2010 08:40 AM (4Kl5M)

82 It never ceases to amaze me how so many feel the need to give advice to Sarah Palin.  Probably the only politician since Reagan to truly energize patriotic Americans and cause such fear and hatred from the underachieving left.  One can listen to her speak for one minute and see that she 'gets it'.  I think that the best advice for her is what many of us were saying to the McCain campaign, 'Let Sarah be Sarah'.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 30, 2010 08:42 AM (X0WG3)

83
Do they just sit around at Axelturf Inc., waiting for a Palin thread to be put up on a blog somewhere?

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 08:43 AM (SWzJP)

84 Second, I am not going to run for President. Ever. No matter what.


Eff that.  I want Sarah Palin to run for president in 2012.  Period.  End of conversation.

I want President Palin to appoint Dick Cheney as Energy El Supremo.  I want Sarah Palin to order Energy Supremo Dick Cheney to sign every offshore NG/Petroleum lease that comes across his disk, pronto.  I want EES Cheney to sign off on every safe nuclear plant license that comes through the door.

I want President Palin to assign the meanest, toughest, fightingest SOBs in the US Armed Forces/Intelligence services to hunting down and killing as many terrorists as possible, wherever the terrorists are, whenever the chance occurs.

I want President Palin to cut taxes, reduce regulation on businesses, and I want her to sign a comprehensive health care insurance reform bill that reduces insurance premiums and makes health care more affordable.

I'm madder'n hell.  I don't trust Romney or the RNC and the clock is ticking.  Run, Sarah, RUN!

Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2010 08:43 AM (HjPtV)

85

What should she have said? Her answer actually makes the most sense. You had to have Jefferson to temper Adams and vice versa. Hamilton v Sam Adams, Washington was no genius but was a mountain of integrity, Jefferson could weld a pen between shopping sprees. Thomas Paine was a yeller and Madison a deep thinker. She's right but only someone who knew about the founding fathers would know that. I personally think Jefferson was a pussy but that's beside the point.

My response would probably have been Sam Adams not just for his beer but because he began the committees of correspondence--a letter writing exchange which brought the concepts of the enlightenment to much of the colonial community and led to the revolution. Yesterday's internet or talk radio. The people's informational venue.

But Palin's answer was actually better.

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 08:44 AM (g+Mx0)

86 This sounds like a great plan if you live in Podunk, Iowa.  The problem we have now is that more people live in cities than outside of them.

Um, aren't all cities located in a county or parish? If so, his recommendation to get a hold of the county government makes a lot of sense for those that live in the more rural areas.

Second, while cities aren't exactly paradise, it's not a great idea to go about politics with the angry view that people that live in the cities are your enemy. People who live in cities do own property, they do have guns, they do care about taxes. The rate may not be as high as other areas but the idea that they must be approached as an enemy is a losing proposition.

Perhaps it might be better to, you know, get them on your side? Because that's pretty much what politics comes down to.

Posted by: Iskandar at January 30, 2010 08:44 AM (/o58C)

87

To copy from our President here, let me be clear:

Woman that rip on Palin are de facto suspect in my book.

/and by "suspect" of course I mean jealous

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 30, 2010 08:45 AM (iZCce)

88

all he does is predict economic doomsday

That's the best place to start. I've seen a lot of doomsday predictions, and I've concluded that one of two things is true: (1) that predictions of economic doomsday are correct, though the date and the exact proximate cause may be off a bit, or (2) there will never be such a doomsday.

I'm guessing that more people accept the first conclusion than the second. (Seriously, if endless credit is viable, then why not support endless benefits? Why not support Obamacare?) So if this guy has a vision of our impending doom and an audience, I'd say he's worth paying attention to.

Posted by: FireHorse at January 30, 2010 08:46 AM (cQyWA)

89 /and by "suspect" of course I mean jealous scrunts
  FIFY,

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 30, 2010 08:47 AM (X0WG3)

90 Anyone else watching Hillsdale College's townhall meeting on the Constitution?

Posted by: DSkinner at January 30, 2010 08:47 AM (e4ylL)

91 Look, this guy is a nut, and so is his buddy Lew Rockwell. However ...

1.) We need to be patient (something the right in general and morons in particular aren't known for) and commence our own "Long March through the Institutions." Education, mass media - both news and entertainment - and politics. It took the left decades, and it will take us just as long, but if we start now, your grandkids will see a much better America. And we'll have the joy of knowing we started the ball rolling.

2.) The idea of retaking the Republican party at the lowest levels and building up as we go has been discussed on threads here before. It is a valid strategy, and an effective one. Several morons have already started this by volunteering and getting involved as election observers, etc. I've donated money and worked a phone bank. I need to do more, and I urge you to do more, too.

Mr. North's idea of an organization providing training for activists, as well as forms to use in suing the government is actually not a bad idea. More suits and less silent acceptance of our fate would definitely be a good thing.

So why hasn't the GOP started doing this? because they are retards. For all I know, they have a program like this, but haven't let anyone know about it because they were too busy apologizing for Rush Limbaugh to do anything useful. All they want is your money, so they can help their friends get elected and re-elected, so they can get jobs working for, with or through them. That's why we'll eventually have to take over the GOP, too. However, that will take time, so it just has to be added to the list of things to do, along with the long march, and identifying and supporting activists, and conducting GOTV efforts.

Sarah Palin can't save us. Newt Gingrich didn't, Haley Barbour didn't and Michael Steele is a complete failure, and too many other attention whores on the national scene only want the fame and power.

In the end, its up to us morons and anyone else we can recruit.Good luck!

Posted by: Josef K. at January 30, 2010 08:48 AM (7+pP9)

92 Dana White, Ellie Light -- which is which?

"Which is your favorite founding father?" is indeed a bullshit question that .01% of Americans could answer with examples, quotes, compare 'n' contrast, etc., and it's irrelevant.

And now for my advice to Palin: stop these long one-on-ones with Fox's weird superstars. Ego Bill makes hay of the Issue of the Moment which trivializes her -- I wish she had simply declined to answer his question about Harry Reid's light-skinned Negro remark -- and Weirdo Beck is like someone who corners you at a party with his bizarre confessions and life experiences and newfound philosophy, making your eyes glaze while you dream of escaping to the buffet table.

I just want to see Sarah herself, free of these "promoters" and idea-men.

Posted by: arhooley at January 30, 2010 08:48 AM (NIF3r)

93

i think at this point a better plan would be to:

1. burn.it.all.down.

2. get one of those flashy things from men in black.

3. ?????

4. freedom.

Posted by: evil libertarian at January 30, 2010 08:48 AM (x9lGm)

94 48

guy doesn't know what he's talking about on so much, palin would be stupid to repeat the "Dollar has lost 95% of its value since 1914" idiocy.  Sure it has, except for the fact dollars are alot easier to come by, we aren't 95% poorer than we were in 1914 you retard

Um, the point was that if you earned a dollar in 1914 (a hard day's work) and stored it under your mattress, you could pul it out today and buy..... not even a cup of coffee.  Hmmm... a hard day's work for a cup of coffee.

And for that matter, the one hundred dollars you earn today is only going to buy a cup of Starbucks in about 10 - 15 years, so you can forget about retiring. 

Keep in mind that the federal government calculates the Consumer Price Index (CPI) - talk about the fox guarding the henhouse!  (Check out what they actually admit to regarding fudging the figures sometimes - and then imagine what they might be doing without admitting it.)

Posted by: MrJimm at January 30, 2010 08:48 AM (hdFYN)

95 78 Nasty. My husband and son are there. It's snowing like crap and because they had predicted a dusting instead of 6 inches the streets are a sheet of ice. I drove them to the metro and then spent the next hour biding my time watching pricks in BMWs spin out.

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 08:49 AM (g+Mx0)

96 <i>I want President Palin to appoint Dick Cheney as Energy El Supremo.</i>
<P>This might make enough liberal heads explode that we could solve a lot of problems right there.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 30, 2010 08:50 AM (nlv2q)

97 #85 -- Thank you. Not only do I think Palin's answer to Beck 100% fine, I personally would have given the same answer (I like them all, but Washington deserves recognition for his unique and indispensable role).

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at January 30, 2010 08:50 AM (+deq6)

98 um.... examples of federal marshals ordering counties "what to do ", please?

 

Posted by: jadedinga at January 30, 2010 08:52 AM (Uc/xV)

99

dskinner,

 

Where?

Posted by: jmflynny at January 30, 2010 08:54 AM (rxj33)

100 Posted by: mama winger at January 30, 2010 01:36 PM

{waves}

Hi Mama Winger!

Nice to see you, and some of the other LGF people make it over here!!

Welcome!

Posted by: shibumi at January 30, 2010 08:55 AM (OKZrE)

101

Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2010 01:43 PM (HjPtV)

Cut of your jib.  I like it.

Posted by: Nicole at January 30, 2010 08:55 AM (CH1cF)

102  nm.  I guess he is referring to Feds interfering with immigration on the Southwest border. .

Posted by: jadedinga at January 30, 2010 08:57 AM (Uc/xV)

103

Gee, you're right everyone hates O'Reilly and Beck that's why no one went to the tea parties on 9/12 and no one watches their shows. Such unpopularity, we wouldn't want that to harm the cause.

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 08:57 AM (g+Mx0)

104 jmflynny,

http://tinyurl.com/yknkhm7

Posted by: DSkinner at January 30, 2010 08:58 AM (e4ylL)

105 count me unimpressed with this whole piece. Sarah Palin should not hire this guy to write her speeches

Posted by: DaMav at January 30, 2010 08:59 AM (QNU76)

106 "And for that matter, the one hundred dollars you earn today is only going to buy a cup of Starbucks in about 10 - 15 years, so you can forget about retiring."

Which is why you don't save money under your mattress or in a tin can in the back yard. You invest it. Despite all the neato charts of the Paultards and the Rocknutz the idea that a metal backed currency is not going to undergo inflation is silly. 

The ability to own land and make investments is what changed not-totally-poor peasants into the middle class. 

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 30, 2010 09:00 AM (woIDc)

107 #100 {Waves Back Atcha}

Hi there shibumi!

Posted by: mama winger at January 30, 2010 09:00 AM (Ue9UN)

108

Palin 2012. Why not the best?

Posted by: Never Mind at January 30, 2010 09:01 AM (E6P6Z)

109

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at January 30, 2010 01:08 PM (pla1I)

You never disappoint me, Abdominal.  That was pithy, as usual.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 30, 2010 09:02 AM (LKkE8)

110

Thanks, Skinner.

I missed the first 5 hours. Do they typically record for later viewing?

Posted by: jmflynny at January 30, 2010 09:02 AM (rxj33)

111 Say what you will about Mr. North, but one thing is for sure - His letters are very long.

Posted by: Kevin at January 30, 2010 09:02 AM (FDaFm)

112

I hope Palin stays out of the 2012 presidential election.  I wouldn't want her to become a distraction.  I know Palin is popular in some circles and she drives democrats to distraction (which is a good thing).  But let's be honest, she's a bit of a dingbat.  At scripted speeches with a teleprompter, she can give an amazing speech.  But take her off the script, OOOFAA. 

Glenn Beck asked her who her favorite founding father was and the train came off the track.  She looked blank for a second or too and then said "All of them."  She then talked about how the founders came together in collectivism and diversity.  WTF?  It reminded me of that rambling interview she gave to Katie Couric where she explained how she had foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia.
 

I think you have Palin confused with obimbo. He can't say anything approaching inteligent even with a teleprompter. If you remember correctly, which I doubt, Palin's teleprompter quit working the night of her acceptance speech at the Republican Convention. Yet, she pulled that off like it was the most natural thing in the world.

And why should she have a favorite founding father? I can certainly understand the look on her face. That was a ridiculous question to ask. I would have had the same look if someone asked me that for the same reason - I have an incredible admiration for ALL of the founding fathers. They all came together, ignored their own backgrounds, and pulled together to create something that has never been seen before in history. How can you say one is any better than any other when they all worked so hard to forget their differences in order to create the greatest country in the world? The very fist country - EVER - that valued an individual's rights more than the state's.

I think you've been taken in by Tina Fey and forgot who is the real Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Former Lurker at January 30, 2010 09:02 AM (ZOl9N)

113 "...immigration on the Southwest border."  Totally lost me there. "immigration"?

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 09:03 AM (ucq49)

114 This is the first Hillsdale townhall that I know of. During the sign-up time (doesn't anyone listen to Mark Levin?) the site talked about making it available by link after today and offering a DVD.

I missed the first 2.5 hours because the servers were having trouble.  During the lunch break they played a Mark Steyn speech from March 2009.

Posted by: DSkinner at January 30, 2010 09:06 AM (e4ylL)

115 #112: Arguing with a concern troll is usually a waste of time.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 30, 2010 09:07 AM (hoowK)

116 Possibly Huckabee is already far better at running for office than he'd be at being in the office.

One dipshiat president that's in over his head is enough.

Posted by: Mikey at January 30, 2010 09:07 AM (TJoID)

117 I hope Palin does what she thinks is best, for herself, family and country (in inverse order).

As of now, I don't think she's ready to be president -- please don't tell me Osama Obama wasn't/isn't either; two wrongs do not make a right -- but she has potential, if it's what she wants to do and is willing to work hard for.

She doesn't need fan-bois to make excuses for her. She needs to be able to tell her detractors they are wrong, and prove it.

Actions speak louder than words. No one should be elected to a major office on the strength of words alone.

Posted by: Chapeau du Tinfoil at January 30, 2010 09:08 AM (X3uxH)

118 I'm pretty sure that's what Mrs Palin is doing, to be honest. I don't think she has any presidential aims, but she wants to move the nation and the party to the right, be a spokeswoman for conservatism and the face of a new option for politics which has previously been almost totally ignored or silenced. So far she's doing great at it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 30, 2010 09:09 AM (PQY7w)

119 Well reading that " letter" was a waste of my time. That shithead just wants Palin out of the way so his dog has a better chance. Palin can run for President if she feels like she can win. Fuck all who tell her she can't run. With the amount of shit that's been slung her way and for her to still be standing speaks of an incredible iron will. The Pussy in Chief we have now pouts when one network out of five calls him out on his bs. Let Palin run. And in the chance she wins, I'm going to find Chris Matthews and shove a pudding cup so far down his throat it'll tickle his testicles. "President Palin sends her regards."

Posted by: TexMex at January 30, 2010 09:10 AM (5KdDt)

120 Bullcrap. We need to do both.

Elect Palin in 2012, and take over local precinct committees.

This person is just doing the Posse Comitatus org counties-over-all-else ghost dance. These folks are anti-semetic loons ... we do not need to let these stormfront-grade a-holes to jump from Ron Paul's sinking tub and try to smear their excrement on Palin.


Posted by: Kristopher at January 30, 2010 09:10 AM (kCEOg)

121

115 #112: Arguing with a concern troll is usually a waste of time.

Good point - I musta lost my head. Sure hope I can find it before I need it again.

Posted by: Former Lurker at January 30, 2010 09:11 AM (ZOl9N)

122 During the campaign, I received a phone call which wanted to survey me about election knowledge. The responses made the news but I don't remember the particulars. One question was who said: "I can see russia from my house." I said Tina Fey. The woman screamed and said that was the first time anyone had gottent that right. Most people are idiots and they, in no way, can distinguish what Sarah Palin has said or done from the spin of what she has said or done. That includes the republicans too. The example above where it is suggested that she can't talk off teleprompter is typical.

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 09:13 AM (g+Mx0)

123 bite me concern trolls who don't think Sarah will run. fools all of you.

Posted by: dying in myrtle beach at January 30, 2010 09:14 AM (b6BRx)

Posted by: andycanuck at January 30, 2010 09:15 AM (2qU2d)

125
Sarah Palin is not gonna run in 2012.

Get that through your thick fucking heads.

And neither is Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 09:16 AM (jVldi)

126 125 Hi smudge

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 09:17 AM (g+Mx0)

127

#124 Great. The Web site doesn't let you grab specific, finished calculations.

Go here, and enter 2008, then 100, then 1914.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 30, 2010 09:17 AM (2qU2d)

128

@126 125 Hi smudge

Not smudge.

@125  I believe Ogabby will so screw the pooch, that a window, will indeed open for Shrillary.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 09:23 AM (ucq49)

129 I like what Gary says. I doubt she'll do it. Too many libs infiltrating the tea party movement. I do think localism is the way to get things back on track. And as for you trolls that think that Y2K was nothing, my staff and I worked 18 hour days for months fixing things, then got our bonus mugged for missing one little shipping system that was brought in by a third party vendor. There were tons of bugs, many brought to light in the last month that would have shut companies down had they not been fixed. You're welcome.

Posted by: KF at January 30, 2010 09:24 AM (ZdkpQ)

130 A simple flat tax does everything the guy wants.  Almost all of our problems comes from the federal govt picking winners and losers and distorting the market.  If no person, company or organization can get special govt benefits or protection, a lot of these idiotic laws wouldn't be passed.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 30, 2010 09:24 AM (DIYmd)

131 Sarah Palin is not gonna run in 2012. Get that through your thick fucking heads. I have no prediction on that. I do predict she will loom large, regardless.

Posted by: fluffy at January 30, 2010 09:24 AM (4Kl5M)

132 Crazy guys who are occasionally brilliant are always fun to read--and when they're Good they're Very Good.

His plan for Sarah is very good, but might actually set her up for actually running for Obama's job.  She can give that speech without making an absolute pledge to not run, and the advice the speech gives is painfully good:  The only way to reduced the goliath-like power of the national government is to subject it to the 'torture of a thousand cuts'

Pick at it'; bleed it; cut off little bits & pieces, one by one until all the efforts add up to substantial reductions--which they will, in time.  The consistent rigorous effort will attract A LOT of people from the HALF of the American population which does not vote--and will also demoralize the nutjobs on the left

Good hunting, Sarah.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 30, 2010 09:26 AM (JrRME)

133 KF,

Thank you.  I do think that a big part of Y2K having little effect is because of the prep work.  Are you getting ready for the 2038 problem?

Posted by: DSkinner at January 30, 2010 09:27 AM (e4ylL)

134 It's like reading the Joker explaining to the Gotham mob bosses what to do about the Batman.

Posted by: Crusty at January 30, 2010 09:27 AM (qzgbP)

135 They are the "takers" and now that there are more of them than us they are going to keep voting themselves more and more of our money.

If the takers, at least some of them, came to believe the well is running dry, the golden goose is about to be slaughtered, and the gravy train is ending because the gravy has run out, they may become a little more compliant...

...at least compliant enough to allow the corpse of American industry to be resurrected to the point where they no longer fear their welfare check might bounce.

It may take some actual riots due to welfare checks that really did bounce, or welfare being paid with fake scrip, etc.  We can never expect them to respond to patriotism, good of the country, etc, but they will respond to fear.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 30, 2010 09:32 AM (R033i)

136

Most imbeciles, even self described Conservatives have allowed the LIBTARD media to set their mental template of Sarah Palin.

Please someone, ANYONE tell me one single member of the Obama administration that is as smart, accomplished and principled as Sarah Palin.
Tell me ONE SINGLE member of the Obama adminsitration the exemplifies moral character and clarity as Sarah Palin does?  The elitists' idea of who is smart and who isn't is a joke.  Obama isn't a smart man.

Posted by: gus at January 30, 2010 09:32 AM (Vqruj)

137 Any criticism of Palin at this moment in time is a f$@king joke.  After what these disgusting pie holes have done to her and have failed to do to her and never will, evah.  So the ratbastards that dare say anything negative about her are so busted and you are useless.  The shy little quip here and there is obvious so beat it.  Can you imagine the brain damage this putz has writing this long ass bullsh$t telling her what to do!?  The arrogance should tell you loud and clear what this crap is all about.  HTKYA Sarah!!

Posted by: jeaneeinabottle at January 30, 2010 09:33 AM (Gn3La)

138 135 You have more faith in them than I do.

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 09:33 AM (g+Mx0)

139 This is the first Hillsdale townhall that I know of. During the sign-up time (doesn't anyone listen to Mark Levin?) the site talked about making it available by link after today and offering a DVD.

I missed the first 2.5 hours because the servers were having trouble.  During the lunch break they played a Mark Steyn speech from March 2009.

Posted by: DSkinner at January 30, 2010 02:06 PM (e4ylL)

The National Center for Constitutional Studies used to run a webinar (first Tues. of every month) like the one Hillsdale is doing.  A quick trip to the site revealed that they're doing "The Making of America" currently.  This is a kick-arse resource.  I bought the "Beck" package of recommended books/DVD and it's outstanding.

http://www.nccs.net/

Posted by: RushBabe at January 30, 2010 09:34 AM (LKkE8)

140 I like Sarah Palin. But I feel ambivalent about wanting her to run for President. Whether people want to admit it or not, we have to attract indenpendents in order to win the election. I am a conservative and don't want anymore RINO's like McCain. (I held my nose as I voted for him.) But can Sarah attract the independents? I don't know. She has to spend the next few years building up her credibility to be considered a serious candidate outside conservative circles. I too was not impress with her interview with Glenn Beck. Hopefully she will do better as she get more experience giving interviews. The Fox contract will give her the opportunity to do both.

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 09:34 AM (qLV03)

141  I too was not impress with her interview with Glenn Beck. Hopefully she will do better as she get more experience giving interviews. The Fox contract will give her the opportunity to do both.

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 02:34 PM (qLV03)

I was not impressed with Beck's interview of her.  He was slow (yes, I realize he had a cold, so what?)...and plodding...and talked too much about himself...and his questions were stupid.

I also didn't like the fact that afterward he and O'Reilly critiqued her on air.  WTF?

Posted by: Tami at January 30, 2010 09:38 AM (VuLos)

142 There's a great piece linked at Conservatives 4 Palin dot com from Israpundit that points out how her FaceBook posts are actually framing the debate that's boxing in Chocolate Jesus.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 30, 2010 09:38 AM (LKkE8)

143 OT - if you are able to see/hear/read Hillsdale College's 'Reviving the Constitution' (live online now), DO IT - I am listening/watching and it is a wonderful discussion of the past, present and future ideas re: this magnificent country and its founding principles.   Especially this last segment by Hillsdale's President, Dr. Larry Arnn - very inspiring

Posted by: the Butcher at January 30, 2010 09:39 AM (vaYDB)

144 But can Sarah attract the independents?

She doesn't really need to actively attract them per se.  The democrats are doing a stellar job of repelling them right now.  All she'd need to do is avoid doing any that would repel them from her.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 30, 2010 09:39 AM (R033i)

145

"Also, his religious background is even more off-putting to moderates then Palin's.  "

As a social centerist Independent, I can 100% agree with this statement. I really don't care about someone's social views, just don't enact them into policy and cram them down. Sarah I trust 100% I've looked at her AK record, Huckabee seems very preachy, don't trust him to leave me along with my own social views.

Just govern as a person as the founding fathers envisioned, smaller govt, fiscal responsibility, strong defense, respect for indiv rights, strong 10th amendent rights, just leave the social governing out of it. Most independents are social centerists, but conservative when it comes to pretty much all other issues.

 

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at January 30, 2010 09:40 AM (ACkhT)

146 Amazing how people keep telling Palin she's not good enough to be prez but they will condescend to allow her to work her butt off to get other people elected.  Well, thanks for nothing.  I think she'll pass on the generous offer to use her ability to bring in crowds, raise money and motivate devoted supporters to get her "betters" elected (people who can't get 200 people to show up at an event-- yeah I'm talking to you Romney, Jindal, Pawlenty and whatever white-bread, policy wonk that the drive-by-media keeps trying to push on us).  Somehow, I don't see her as choosing to be the scullery maid for  the GOP establishment. 

Here's my prediction-- Palin will continue to do as she damn well pleases, and if she chooses to run in 2012, I'll be in the massive crowd cheering her on.

Posted by: BlackRedneck at January 30, 2010 09:41 AM (Mh30H)

147 And as for you trolls that think that Y2K was nothing, my staff and I worked 18 hour days for months fixing things, then got our bonus mugged for missing one little shipping system that was brought in by a third party vendor. There were tons of bugs, many brought to light in the last month that would have shut companies down had they not been fixed.

I'm not saying that Y2K was nothing. I was in IT at the time and I saw the feverish work that was going on in my company with y2k compliance. The reason North made himself a laughingstock on this issue is because he spent 3 years screaming his head off that the Y2K problem could not be fixed no matter how much work was put into it, and it would cause western civilization to collapse. So we should all sell our holdings and move to some remote location. He actually did this himself. He's predicted catastrophe before (nuclear war, AIDS, various economic disasters) and he's  been wrong, like, every damn time.

That's why I was mocking him. He just can't leave the chicken alone.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 30, 2010 09:41 AM (hoowK)

148

Sometimes I like to pointlessly flirt around with the possibility that M-theory might make inter-dimensional time travel a reality, but I realistically understand that the odds of it happening in my lifetime are exponentially unlikely. So, more often, I fuck around with portents of Nobama in song lyrics, like this one: Leper Messiah, complete with you-betcha song lyrics if you give it a minute. I also note that the album is titled Master of Puppets and have myself a giggle and a snort. Afterwards, I just enjoy the music while doing something that’s actually productive.

Posted by: Agnostica, geeked at January 30, 2010 09:42 AM (gbCNS)

149 You have more faith in them than I do.

I have no faith in the takers at all.  None.  I do understand how their little reptilian minds think though.  They're really very predictable.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 30, 2010 09:43 AM (R033i)

150

"My favorite is the second amendment, but they are all great . . . and they are all being violated by Washington."

 

To be fair to the Feds, I don't think they are violating the third amendment. 

Posted by: Deadalus Mugged at January 30, 2010 09:43 AM (78Fe/)

151

"I just want to see Sarah herself, free of these "promoters" and idea-men."
--- arhooly

I totally agree.  I watch/listen to Beck, but when he asked Sarah about the Founding Fathers, and he had that snark response, similar to calling bullshit, I lost all respect for him.  Sarah does not need my advice or help, but I support her, as she is a decent Christian woman with conservative values.  All I know is EVERY time she posts on the intertubes or speaks, she drives the Marxists/Progressives/Liberals/RINOS crazy. 

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 30, 2010 09:44 AM (UPNlB)

152 .... off Damn sock.... grr

Posted by: sirsurfalot at January 30, 2010 09:45 AM (UPNlB)

153 Credibility on energy, defense, health care, maybe you would prefer some of the idiots who invited Obama to that shindig in Baltimore. She had an 80% popularity
(that 90% number in the Hays poll was an outlier,) and it was torn in down in a matter of weeks, Huckabee would be put on a spit with an apple in his mouth,
in quite nearly that long a period of time. And Romney, you could see how many
ways they could carve him up,
How about the independents have to get a clue, they seemed to have learned something in Massachussetts. and to a lesser extent in New Jersey and Virginia, but they here macaca or Katie Couric talking up the One, and it's off to the races.

Posted by: ian cormac at January 30, 2010 09:45 AM (EKsuG)

154

and as for Mitt Romney, I can tell you as I talk to my still-stupid-loyal-to-dem-party friends.  Romeny is seen as the ultimate wall streeter,  if the repubs want to run him, that will what the dems will attack him on. 

 

People don't want capitilism to fall, they want corrupt capitilism to fall, but when the person who is supposed to be giving this message is a uber-rich wall streeter, not sure how much weight it will carry, and how much it will backfire.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at January 30, 2010 09:46 AM (ACkhT)

155 O/T but entertaining: John Edwards' Sugar Mama.

Money quote: "a Southern-fried, pretty-boy version of Max Bialystock."

Posted by: AmishDude at January 30, 2010 09:49 AM (Vo2Ef)

156

"I do understand how their little reptilian minds think though"

I think you're on to something there, ie "reptilian minds ".  I need to chew on that for awhile, but I'm already convinced it'll add to mine.  Thx

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 09:49 AM (ucq49)

157 "Mad, am I!? I'll show them! My theories are sound!"

Posted by: Charles Johnson at January 30, 2010 09:50 AM (554T5)

158

I agree about the local level part.  I have done precisely that.  But, when our local talk radio hosts try to talk about local issues, somebody inflects national issues.  Every time.  It drives the hosts nuts, but, they just can't steer the conversation away from the national stage.  So, you have to get hands on, in the system, to accomplish anything.  The lawyering up part has me on the fence.  Reeks of the very thing that drove Palin out of the governorship. 

Posted by: sybilll at January 30, 2010 09:51 AM (d5cTF)

159 I have never missed a presidential election. I always volunteer and give money to conservative candidates. But if Huckabee received the GOP nomination I would not vote. I find him repulsive and don't trust him.

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 09:52 AM (qLV03)

160 Sarah will do as she will, and I suspect that she has something in mind. It may involve running for office. If she does, I will support her. If she wants to work outside of office, I will support her. Nothing in that list precludes others from setting up the the channels that are suggested. The problems are there though. YouTube is owned by Google and already routinely takes down postings that oppose Buraq Hussein and the Left. An alternate channel will be necessary. Having lawyers on call to train citizens and help with lawsuits against the Federales would be good, but there are two problems. First, there is a distinct lack of attorneys with any principles, let alone constitutional principles. Second, even that sliver wants to be paid. However, even losing those citizen suits will help build resistance to the Feds. If it keeps getting rubbed in the face of everyone that the Federal government is the enemy and the system is rigged; then people will start making a stand. Subotai Bahadur

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at January 30, 2010 09:53 AM (jFEa1)

161
That's why I was mocking him. He just can't leave the chicken alone.

Good point, Oregon Muse.  Credibility is a fragile thing.......

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 30, 2010 09:54 AM (JrRME)

162 Not sure we have the two decades to win on the county level, then state, then Fed.  I think we need a President, whoever runs that has a very focused and singular vision.   For example, just run on energy and maybe getting a flat tax to replace the IRS system.  In fact the head of the Physics Dept of the Univ of Houston testified before Congress about 5 years ago that the United States has off the shelf technology to go to the moon, setup robot plants to construct huge solar arrays, then tight microwave beam the power to collecting satelites around the earth and thence down to collecting stations on earth.  He says if we really went after this we could supply all the energy needs of the earth in about 10 or 15 years at one fifth current energy prices.  Clean, renewable energy.  The government could work in conjunction with private business and take in mucho bucks, something on the order of several trillion a year. 

End of deficit, end of argument over greenhouse gases, huge number of jobs created, abundant cheap power fuels an industrial revolution across the globe. 

Other benefits:  America rules the high-ground of space, we begin to de-fund the Saudi assholes, we take all the air out of the green movement, we deal with the deficit, we leverage American know-how and technology etc.  May be other ways to accomplish such things.  We need to render the current problems null and void by doing some simple things like this.  Keep it simple but have a damn vision beyond capturing the next PTA meeting, or arguing with brain-dead and ferociously petty and power guarding liberals, go around them, over them, kill their hold on power by developing new power, politically, economically, media, education, etc.

We can keep trying to breed faster horses and beat them at their game, or invent the internal combustion engine and put the livery barns and buggy makers out of business.

Posted by: Jehu at January 30, 2010 09:55 AM (JXhuz)

163 WoW it sounds like a Ron Paul REVOLUTION

Posted by: sheik Yamani at January 30, 2010 09:56 AM (mhD2v)

164 The mobies are thick today.

She herself doesn't yet know whether she will run or not.  She has said this numerous times.  I know, all politicians say that two years out, but in her case, I believe it.  I think later this year or early next year she will look at the polling numbers and make her choice.  She'll be rolling her new organization out soon and can start hiring people who could also serve as campaign staff should she choose to run.  I'd like her to run in 2012 but she might decide to run for Congress first or serve as Secretary of Energy or Interior in another R administration.  She's young and she has a lot of options.  She could easily beat Beigich for Senate in 2014 and run for POTUS in 2020.  Or she could go after Don Young's House seat and then run in 2016.

In related news, she just donated 10 grand to John Kasich's Gubernatorial run in Ohio.

Also, check out her FB post RE civillian trials for terrorists.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+tard at January 30, 2010 10:00 AM (NDj/7)

165 Oh, and T. Coddington vonVoorhees as back at Iowahawk.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+tard at January 30, 2010 10:00 AM (NDj/7)

166 Yeah, riiiiiiight, she should be taking her game plan from someone like Gary North or Lew Rockwell.  She should promise never to run for office, so that Huckabee and Romney have a shot.  And she should say that she's not going to give Tina Fey any more material to work with.

She should be giving them lessons. 


Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at January 30, 2010 10:01 AM (KWhJd)

167 Taking the counties is a long road. The control of the Statehouses is critical in 2010 as the will implement the results of the census. We need to ensure that conservatives are doing th egerrymandering of all of the seats that are going to flow from the NE to the South and West.

Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2010 10:02 AM (MmDFN)

168 #159 But if Huckabee received the GOP nomination I would not vote. I find him repulsive and don't trust him.

Yeah, he's a bridge too far for me.  Did you see the Huckabee family Christmas card?  I kept thinking "Papa Jupe" from the Hills Have Eyes.  Just saying...

Posted by: BlackRedneck at January 30, 2010 10:02 AM (Mh30H)

169

O/T  Obama:  "Um, yeah, we didn't want anyone to get between you and your doctor, but someone snuck those provisions in the bill."  (via Gateway Pundit)

http://tinyurl.com/yzzcne2

Posted by: RushBabe at January 30, 2010 10:02 AM (LKkE8)

170 Whenever Congress "fixes" something, hundreds if not thousands of pages aren thrown at the problem: and the "fix" is made worse. It's the DC way. I say recend the law, make a new one, no more than 100 pages, and have a sunset time on it. I say 5 years, then they are forced to make good laws that they can keep renewing. bad laws go away. No more forever laws!

Posted by: mystry at January 30, 2010 10:03 AM (kmgIE)

171

this is total hogwash.   Palin only has influence because she retains the threat to run for office.  the moment she decides not to run for office her influence on the national level goes to a Rush type of influence if not less.

 

Those that say "they hope she doesn't run" know this  and is the only reason they say it.

 

 

Posted by: unseen at January 30, 2010 10:08 AM (NXpk1)

172

If Palin pledges not to run, she loses her power. She can do all of the other stuff while keeping America guessing.

Posted by: JeninCT at January 30, 2010 10:09 AM (3eEkt)

173 There's a lot of good observations in this post.

A lot.

Posted by: Mondo at January 30, 2010 10:09 AM (uTRs/)

174

Newflash!!!   We need to run the person we want.  What the fluck does it matter what LIBTARDS say.   We don't need their permission.

Whomever the GOP picks will be savaged by LIBTARDS.

LIBTARDS NEED GOVERNMENT for their very existance.  Who is the most frequent visitor to the OBAMA WhiteHouse?

Andy Stern of SEIU.  Obama is selling our nation one SPECIAL INTEREST at a time.

8 BILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLION FOR CHOO CHOO'S this week.

AARP and BIG PHARMA, etc etc etc.

We need to pick a CONSERVATIVE with BALLS. This has to be reversed.

Posted by: gus at January 30, 2010 10:11 AM (Vqruj)

175 Why do the Tea Partiers need Gary North's advice to go what they're already doing?

Posted by: Richard Mcenroe at January 30, 2010 10:11 AM (oxMVR)

176
There's a lot of good observations in this post.

You forgot to tell us to buy your boner pills...cheap.

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 10:15 AM (z37MR)

177 What bullshit. Sit on the sidelines and give advice. Geezusfuckingchrist, we have enough of those blowhards. Has anyone else besides Barry Soetoro read her fucking facebook page? She is so far inside his head that Michelle is getting jealous. Sarah posts, couple days later Barry moves. She posted the other day that pulling the KSM trial out of NYC was bullshit and that he should try his ass in a military court. Now go look at the headlines. By the time midsummer 2011 comes around Sarah will be right there contending for the White House. Millions like me will be right there with our fucking pitchforks.

Posted by: turfmann at January 30, 2010 10:15 AM (A9tiT)

178 Your tax dollars being used to shuttle the Pelosi family around...without even having Pelosi on board. 

http://tinyurl.com/y9sdtlc

Warning:  Your blood pressure will rise.

Posted by: Tami at January 30, 2010 10:17 AM (VuLos)

179

# 174 We need to pick a CONSERVATIVE with BALLS. This has to be reversed

 

I agreee but first we have to get them elected. I don't want a repeat of the last election. I was depressed for weeks. After a year of this administration I'm on the verge of suicidal!

I hope that Sarah turns out to be the next Margaret Thatcher!

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 10:17 AM (qLV03)

180 146 Fist pump

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 10:18 AM (g+Mx0)

181
by the way, if you don't think like I do, you're a troll!


Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 10:23 AM (z37MR)

182 I like gus, but I wonder sometimes if he is the long-lost love child of Spurwing Plover and WickedPinto.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 30, 2010 10:24 AM (hoowK)

183
165 Oh, and T. Coddington vonVoorhees as back at Iowahawk.

Somehow I suspect Iowahawk doesn't think Chris Buckley's love missive was satire, either.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 10:24 AM (fASi3)

184
you don't like Mitt Romney?

bunch of Moby Dicks!

Go back to DU, trolls!

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 10:25 AM (z37MR)

185
There's a lot of good observations in this post.

Also a lot of hashes that have never, ever posted here.  Go figure.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 10:26 AM (fASi3)

186
I like gus

Gus is good people, he sometimes just GOES a little craZY with the CAPS.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 10:27 AM (fASi3)

187
oh snap, the Hash Police is here!

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 10:29 AM (z37MR)

188
Seriously, my advice for Sarah Palin: wear shorter skirts.

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 10:31 AM (z37MR)

189

I wonder why we keep obsessing over the candidates from the last election.

Personally, I don't want to vote for Mitt or Mike.  I love Sarah, but I don't think the public will be ready to vote for her by 2012. 

I think Rudy would make a fine president, but I just can't bring myself to pull the lever for him because of his support of abortion on demand. 

I firmly believe that the GOP will nominate a person who is NOT widely expected to run (at this point).  Every year, in both parties, somebody comes out of the woodwork to unexpectedly compete (see Buchanan in 1992, Forbes in 1996,  McCain in 2000, Huckabee in 200 .

In my opinion, the political climate come 2011 will be so volatile that the dark horse / outsider will not just rise up, but will actually win the nomination (see Barack Obama in 2012).

My big question would be:  who's the dark horse going to be?

 

Posted by: stickety at January 30, 2010 10:31 AM (8Ev54)

190 This is basically the same tactics the Left used to infiltrate every single aspect of our lives. Schools, judges, sheriff, congress, professors, etc. It worked for them.

Posted by: rawmuse at January 30, 2010 10:31 AM (6Kciv)

191 I'm not sure if ace even reads the comments but can someone tell me why Obama admitting that people can't keep their private insurance if the health bill passes isn't news? The president admitted he's a liar and no one even noticed.

Posted by: dvdivx at January 30, 2010 10:32 AM (mE32g)

192 I wonder if this retard wrote a letter for Ron Paul in 2007.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 30, 2010 10:32 AM (Lhn7j)

193
can someone tell me why Obama admitting that people can't keep their private insurance if the health bill passes isn't news?

Ace might be 'indisposed' at the moment.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 10:33 AM (fASi3)

194 Her followers called her Maha-Sarah-cuda, and said she was a Presidential candidate.  She preferred to drop the Maha- and the -cuda, however, and called herself Sarah.  She never claimed to be a Presidentai candidate.  But then, she never claimed not to be a Presidential candidate.  Circumstances being what they were, neither admission could be of any benefit.  Silence, though, could.

Therefore, there was mystery about her.

It was in the season of budget deficits . . .

it was well into the time of the great spending . . .


--Apologies to Roger Zelazny's memory . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 30, 2010 10:33 AM (smvTK)

195 There is a reasonable chance Barry and Biden will not be the Democrat candidates in 2012. I'd rather speculate on that. Anyhoo, no matter whom the Democrats nominate, Sarah will crush them (as rival or not) and see them driven before her, etc., etc.

Posted by: eman at January 30, 2010 10:34 AM (4tixt)

196

Second look at H. Ross Perot!

Posted by: TexasJew at January 30, 2010 10:37 AM (dcKUM)

197 Anyone who seriously considers that anti-semite Lew Rockwell to be a responsible spokesperson should be avoided like yesterday's trash.

Posted by: Drive By at January 30, 2010 10:37 AM (5Vlcy)

198

#163...

Wrong!

It's a  rEVOLution!

Posted by: jmflynny at January 30, 2010 10:38 AM (rxj33)

199

THANKS, I like you guys TOO.

Posted by: gus at January 30, 2010 10:38 AM (Vqruj)

200
My big question would be:  who's the dark horse going to be?

I heard 'darkIE horse' - RAAAAAAAACIST!!!111!!!

Posted by: The Dowdy One at January 30, 2010 10:39 AM (fASi3)

201

195 - How bad does the economy have to be for Hillary to jump into the primary race? 

Based on what I've seen from head-in-the-sand Democratic loyalists, it would take a cataclysmic economic meltdown to get them off of Barry's bandwagon. 

Of course, I live in a state that re-elected Jennifer Granholm (by a mini-landslide) in the midst of a one-state depression. 

Posted by: stickety at January 30, 2010 10:40 AM (8Ev54)

202 Just a minor technical point: "Equal Time" applies to broadcast TV and radio, not to cable news channels. The Supreme Court ruled long ago the FCC has no jurisdiction over basic cable because it does not use the public airwaves, but rather privately owned physical lines.

Posted by: billcarson at January 30, 2010 10:40 AM (QEDmd)

203

I am Ellie Light!

 

Posted by: Dana White at January 30, 2010 10:40 AM (fRnux)

204

No, I am Ellie Light!

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 10:41 AM (fRnux)

205 200 - So you're saying we should nominate Michael Steele?  : )

Posted by: stickety at January 30, 2010 10:41 AM (8Ev54)

206 No, I am! I am more concerned and more Christian!

Posted by: Dana White at January 30, 2010 10:41 AM (fRnux)

207 Another new FB post:

Obamacare = Stray Dog, So Says President
Today at 12:27pm

What am I missing, folks? We’re called obstructionists and made to feel uninformed in the Obamacare debate as we point out this is not a patient-driven, market-oriented approach to health care cost challenges. We’ve been saying for months that this is government takeover of our personal choices of insurers and doctors. We’re called liars when claiming that this is all about government mandates and control of up to a sixth of our economy.

And yet, shockingly, the president admitted yesterday exactly what we’ve been saying: that his Democrats and lobbyists have crafted bills that in fact will prevent us from keeping our current insurance and/or choosing our own doctor. He said:
The last thing I will say, though -- let me say this about health care and the health care debate, because I think it also bears on a whole lot of other issues. If you look at the package that we’ve presented -- and there’s some stray cats and dogs that got in there that we were eliminating, we were in the process of eliminating. For example, we said from the start that it was going to be important for us to be consistent in saying to people if you can have your -- if you want to keep the health insurance you got, you can keep it, that you’re not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision making. And I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge. [emphasis added]Thanks to Tom Bevan at RCP for spotting this. The president’s statement is shocking, enlightening, and in an odd and unfortunate way also encouraging. Folks, this admission tells us we’re not off-base and we need to stay vigilant so we’re not missing anything else in this scheme. This trillion-dollar government takeover of our health care system is full of “stray dogs and cats” (the president’s words, not mine), and that’s what we’ve been saying all along.

Commonsense conservatives have better ideas on how to start tackling rising health care costs. Reps. Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Eric Cantor, John Boehner, and others have offered solutions. I commend their efforts to counter the White House’s attempt to ram Obamacare through as these Congressmen seek bipartisan, sensible solutions. I implore them to speak louder because we’re listening, and we’re counting on them!

- Sarah Palin

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+tard at January 30, 2010 10:42 AM (NDj/7)

208 No, I am! I give lots of money to conservatives, but somehow if Huckabee were to run, I wouldn't even vote!

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 10:42 AM (fRnux)

209 Yawn.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at January 30, 2010 10:43 AM (37puw)

210

More Iowahawk genius. See his blog in internet elba:

 

For more than a year I have warned that absent a rapprochement with the telegenic and wildly popular President, the conservative movement risked losing its few remaining serious intellectuals and being overrun by the unsightly hordes of Wal-Mart untermenschen typified by the loathesome "Tea Party" rabble.

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 10:43 AM (g+Mx0)

211
Laser printers use toner?

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2010 10:43 AM (UA4gE)

212 Oops, formatting didn't work.  Let's try that again:

Obamacare = Stray Dog, So Says President

Obamacare = Stray Dog, So Says President
Today at 12:27pm

What am I missing, folks? We’re called obstructionists and made to feel uninformed in the Obamacare debate as we point out this is not a patient-driven, market-oriented approach to health care cost challenges. We’ve been saying for months that this is government takeover of our personal choices of insurers and doctors. We’re called liars when claiming that this is all about government mandates and control of up to a sixth of our economy.

And yet, shockingly, the president admitted yesterday exactly what we’ve been saying: that his Democrats and lobbyists have crafted bills that in fact will prevent us from keeping our current insurance and/or choosing our own doctor. He said:

    The last thing I will say, though -- let me say this about health care and the health care debate, because I think it also bears on a whole lot of other issues. If you look at the package that we’ve presented -- and there’s some stray cats and dogs that got in there that we were eliminating, we were in the process of eliminating. For example, we said from the start that it was going to be important for us to be consistent in saying to people if you can have your -- if you want to keep the health insurance you got, you can keep it, that you’re not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision making. And I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge. [emphasis added]

Thanks to Tom Bevan at RCP for spotting this. The president’s statement is shocking, enlightening, and in an odd and unfortunate way also encouraging. Folks, this admission tells us we’re not off-base and we need to stay vigilant so we’re not missing anything else in this scheme. This trillion-dollar government takeover of our health care system is full of “stray dogs and cats” (the president’s words, not mine), and that’s what we’ve been saying all along.

Commonsense conservatives have better ideas on how to start tackling rising health care costs. Reps. Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Eric Cantor, John Boehner, and others have offered solutions. I commend their efforts to counter the White House’s attempt to ram Obamacare through as these Congressmen seek bipartisan, sensible solutions. I implore them to speak louder because we’re listening, and we’re counting on them!

- Sarah Palin

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+tard at January 30, 2010 10:43 AM (NDj/7)

213 My advice for Sarah Palin? Go topless.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 10:45 AM (ehLtp)

214

As I've said before, the healthcare bill was not perfect.  Unknown perpetrators tried to wee-wee it up by attaching things to it that I, ummmm,  would never approve of....

However,  LET ME BE CLEAR, doctors will continue sawing off legs and ripping out tonsils unnecessarily unless you obstructionist tee-baggers start being bipartisan and pass this bill.  

Posted by: Barry Lightshoes at January 30, 2010 10:48 AM (8Ev54)

215

Imagine, just fucking imagine a Republican doing what Pelosi is doing.

Posted by: gus at January 30, 2010 10:48 AM (Vqruj)

216 213, "The Cleavage Gap" as campaign meme?

Posted by: eman at January 30, 2010 10:48 AM (4tixt)

217

2 points in response to this letter by this person giving "advise" to Sarah.  If Sarah were to declare she is not running under any condition, she will not longer have that ever-growing powerful megaphone. And it is growing ever more powerful. So this author's advise is pretty stupid in that regards.

Second point, she is laying groundwork. Brick by brick. She knows the Democrats Party is imploding. I am a democrat of over 2 and half decades and I realised this in 2008, the radical lunatic left has taken over. 

 Most of these now recovering democrats will or have already become Independents like me. And with the Tea Party rising up, this is the perfect outlet for us.  And millions like me who would have never ever considered voting for republican will do so IF they are people who hold true to the Conservative/American values. And this is why Tea Party encompasses BOTH repubs and dems and is more powerful than either organized party. As much as "Tea Party Nation" thinks its the main tea party movement, it is not.  Every Tea Party is local, and therefore most powerful that way, and this is the way the founders envisioned governance. 

Each Tea Party for each region varies a bit, some are more socially conservative some more centerist, but each one holds true to basic American/conservative principles of smaller govt, lesser taxes, strong national defense, respect for indiv. rights... etc. and these are the principles guiding every Tea Party movement across the country.

The Dem. Party is only now sort of recognizing this, as are the allies of the Dem. Party.

The Democrat brand itself is imploding, they just don't know how severely and really don't know what to do to fix it. I sure as heck will NOT be voting for a democrat at level of govt, I no longer trust them no matter what lies they continue to tell me.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at January 30, 2010 10:53 AM (ACkhT)

218
Imagine a Republican party 1/10 as motivated and outspoken as the Democrats.

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 10:54 AM (z37MR)

219 Cuda will always be my favorite, for Sarah.  Quick.  Lightning fast.  Known to eviscerate at a single pass.  Then, slowly, and cautiously wait, to finish their meal.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 10:54 AM (ucq49)

220
Right now the Republicans are the L.A. Clippers of the NBA.

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 10:57 AM (z37MR)

221

"Imagine, just fucking imagine a Republican doing what Pelosi is doing."

Please, please, please.  Never.  Ever.  Use the words fucking and Pelosi in the same sentence.  The visual is too disgusting to view.

 

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 10:57 AM (ucq49)

222 She can run for whatever the fuck she wants. I just want her to see a goddam speech therapist to get rid of those vocal tics. It's bullshit that something like that could potentially hurt her, but it's bullshit x 2 to actually allow that to happen.

Posted by: fiatboomer at January 30, 2010 10:57 AM (0Wf6c)

223
^
concerned moby!

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 11:00 AM (z37MR)

224

Next topic for discussion:

The Overnight Thread.

Posted by: Tinian at January 30, 2010 11:02 AM (7+pP9)

225

The sad part is that on the economic side, the Paulians have been mostly right in their predictions. The strange neccessity of the Paulians and the Austrians in general (such as Lew Rockwell) going apeshit about the Jewish "neocons" and Israel is baffling and destructive. What sideshow crap.

Peter Schiff has been right on the money about so many economic issues, but his earlier associations with Ron Paul have destroyed any possibility of his being taken seriously on a wider audience. He generally has things nailed down pretty well, and now there is not much argument of a looming dollar crisis, once thought impossible.

Ron Paul is radioactive, and that has severely hampered any intelligent hard-assed free-market approach to this crisis. We're left with the RINO-ish concept of "if someone is hurting, the governement will help" bullshit that Bush pushed out there. It's a guaranteed loser, in the long run.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 30, 2010 11:05 AM (dcKUM)

226
No.

Now we shall discuss Tim Tebow and his Super Bowl commercial.

You are a troll if you think it's a bad idea for CBS to air that commercial.

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at January 30, 2010 11:06 AM (z37MR)

227 Absolutely brilliant.

Of course, now that this proposal has a broader audience, if she hears about it and decides to do this, the MSM headlines will blare "Former Republican Vice Presidential Candidate Taking Order From Fringe Internet Kooks" or something similar.

Oh, well. It's still one helluva good idea. Conservative/libertarian activists absolutely NEED to be doing this, or something very similar to this, and soon.

Posted by: RJ at January 30, 2010 11:07 AM (ADbI4)

228 @224  Show me your boobs.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 11:07 AM (ucq49)

229
When is the ONT going to go up?

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 11:07 AM (fASi3)

230 OT: Someone from Jim Talent's (former senator & congressman) page wished me a happy birthday. If it was the actual person, I am ecstatic. That is all.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 30, 2010 11:11 AM (zmiSr)

231

Posted by: Jehu at January 30, 2010 02:55 PM (JXhuz)

Jehu 2012!  

No lie.  You should write to SP with this info.  From what I've read at C4P, she's diligent about answering (snail) mail.  If this could really reap trillions, we're gonna need it -- in a hurry.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 30, 2010 11:13 AM (LKkE8)

232 Well, it only took one post for me to be called a concern troll. I thought it would take at least ten.

Let's try this again.

I like Sarah Palin. I think she is clever and talented. She had done considerable damage to Obarfa by writing a few Facebook posts, which nobody else could have done, and she would make a far superior President to the current occupant of the White House.

I do not like her goofy speech patterns. She needs to clean that up in order to have a future in national politics. Unfair? You bet your fucking ass that's unfair. Unfortunately, politics -especially national politics- is a popularity contest and the superior product wins more votes (see Reagan, Ronald).

No, I'm not going to start hyping up Romney and ronpaul. I just want Sarah Palin to ensure she has a more effective presentation in her speeches and interviews.

If that makes me a concern troll, FOAD.

Posted by: fiatboomer at January 30, 2010 11:13 AM (0Wf6c)

233

A masterful plan for......around 1970. Now, its a day late and a dollar short. The Alinskites have played the long ball, Alinsky's acolytes: Frank Marshall Davis, Don Rose & Vernon Jarrett set along a generational plan training their prodogies (B.Obama, D.Axelrod, V.Jarrett respectively) with the patience of Sith Masters.

They and their clone army of Obots have already breached the perimeter. The time for huddling around with 1/50,000 maps judging the terrain and from whence the enemy will come, passed long ago.

Like the embattled LTC in Platoon calling for air-support on his own position, the time more drastic measures is upon us. To quote him, "...and may God help us all!"

 

Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2010 11:13 AM (BEH/A)

234 I'm afraid for NY's hobo population on days like this .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 30, 2010 11:13 AM (a9UO0)

235 I too was not impress with her interview with Glenn Beck.
-----------------

I defy anyone to look good in a one-hour Glenn Beck interview. He gets his loony on and there's no way to respond to his bizarre confessionals and crying jags. Several times during that interview, I visualized a thought balloon going into Sarah's head with "wtf is this guy saying?"

Posted by: arhooley at January 30, 2010 11:13 AM (NIF3r)

236 I wish I had thought to write something advising Sarah Palin.  Then I could looks me like a frikkin' jeeenius, too.

Amazing how many conservatives are afraid of her, too, isn't it?

Never trust anyone who's afraid of women.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 11:17 AM (9b6FB)

237 224 Next topic for discussion: The Overnight Thread.

QFT.

It's like the Ace crew spend all-day every Saturday and Sunday in the queues at the state Liquor Stores maxing out their supply of Val-u-rite or something.

Wait. I bet they're out of pudding.

Posted by: Al at January 30, 2010 11:17 AM (0lyUI)

238 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 30, 2010 04:11 PM (zmiSr)

Is today your birthday?  Me too!

Posted by: Tami at January 30, 2010 11:20 AM (VuLos)

239

"If that makes me a concern troll, FOAD."

Easy.  Everyone these days are quick to jump on the opposition, ie concern trolls, mobies, eeyores, etc.  Since you weren't "piled on", I'd say you're in pretty good shape.   I haven't noticed the "goofy speech patterns" you've mentioned, but I'm not one to parse every word or syllable, either.  I think she's doing just fine.

Did you catch any of Obalther's comments, at the GOP retreat, sans TelePrompter?  The dude stumbles much.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 11:21 AM (ucq49)

240

I do not like her goofy speech patterns. She needs to clean that up in order to have a future in national politics. Unfair? You bet your fucking ass that's unfair. Unfortunately, politics -especially national politics- is a popularity contest and the superior product wins more votes (see Reagan, Ronald).

No, I'm not going to start hyping up Romney and ronpaul. I just want Sarah Palin to ensure she has a more effective presentation in her speeches and interviews.

If that makes me a concern troll, FOAD.

Posted by: fiatboomer at January 30, 2010 04:13 PM (0Wf6c)

She talks like a Canadian, fer Chrissakes!

Y'know -- that enlightened land of liberals and socialized medicine to our north.

I think it would be better to mock the Dems for complaining she sounds like one of their beloved Canucks.

Posted by: Tinian at January 30, 2010 11:22 AM (7+pP9)

241 Not posting just sends people elsewhere. Maybe Ace believes the blog has gotten too big, and unruly at times. If he wants to change the blog by allowing more posts from his "co-bloggers" giving him time to do other things, he should tell us. If he has plans to make the blog more influential somehow, fill us in. If you come here a lot, you can tell when things have changed.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 11:24 AM (ehLtp)

242 238 Is today your birthday?  Me too!

Ja. Happy birthday, Tami!

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 30, 2010 11:28 AM (zmiSr)

243 Anyone here from Nebraska?  Is this real or photoshopped?

http://twitpic.com/1063s8

Posted by: Tami at January 30, 2010 11:29 AM (VuLos)

244

Ya know what the best thing EVAH to happen to the Jews?

...the Holocaust

Posted by: Arnie Duncan at January 30, 2010 11:30 AM (AnTyA)

245 Happy birthday ladies; mine's in a couple days.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 11:30 AM (ehLtp)

246

Did you catch any of Obalther's comments, at the GOP retreat, sans TelePrompter?  The dude stumbles much.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 04:21 PM (ucq49)

He's helpless without his TOTUS. I was grinding my teeth during the 2008 debates when McCain refused to go after him when he was spouting lie after lie. If Bambi had to debate, say, Mark Levin, he would be reduced to a cowering wreck.

Posted by: fiatboomer at January 30, 2010 11:30 AM (0Wf6c)

247 2>>43 Anyone here from Nebraska?  Is this real or photoshopped?

http://twitpic.com/1063s8

Posted by: Tami


The billboard or the name of the convenience store?

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 11:31 AM (ehLtp)

248 Yeah, let's make fun of her speech.  That makes us sound all smart.  Then we go after her religion.  And then her hair and makeup.  Shit, she's jus' like them li'l cutout dolls we can dress up anyway we want.

And just for a point of reference, Reagan's speech patterns were constantly laughed at. The cornball, gee-whiz, "mommy" crap; the creepy, shaky voice; starting every friggin' sentence with "Well,".

Damn, making fun of people is easy.  It must make me look smart, and as tough as Ace's dip-encrusted balls.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 11:32 AM (9b6FB)

249 What passes for cake and presents in Tartarus?  Soul candles, rotting flesh cake, what?

/Happy b-day to the consort of Hades and Tami.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 30, 2010 11:33 AM (otlXg)

250 Never trust anyone who's afraid of women.
Posted by: K~Bob
----------------------

Me likee.

Posted by: arhooley at January 30, 2010 11:34 AM (NIF3r)

251 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 30, 2010 04:28 PM (zmiSr)

Backatcha!

And early Happy birthday to you, Dr. Spank

Posted by: Tami at January 30, 2010 11:34 AM (VuLos)

252 The billboard or the name of the convenience store?

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 04:31 PM (ehLtp)

Well, both actually.

Posted by: Tami at January 30, 2010 11:35 AM (VuLos)

253 We need a new thread. How about a sports thread for should the pro-bowl be in Florida before the Super bowl? Or do I have my facts wrong? Not really a sports fan, just bored

Posted by: paleRider at January 30, 2010 11:35 AM (kb7sI)

254 AK is one of those places that still has a perceptible regional dialect. Of course she's going to sound different. It's like being raised in West TX.

One of the things I hate the most is that we shoot our own. Why don't we spend more time taking on the other side? It's not like they haven't given us plenty of ammo.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 30, 2010 11:38 AM (zmiSr)

255 To begin with, she's no longer a Governor.

Posted by: MlR at January 30, 2010 11:38 AM (BwnDo)

256

"He's helpless without his TOTUS"

I like to refer to the boy/man child King as ScrOTUS - scrotum of the United States of America

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 11:39 AM (ucq49)

257 Not really a sports fan, just bored Posted by: paleRider

I am. So much so I've decided to dip my balls in college football.

I can do everything! Wheeeeeeeee~!

Posted by: Pres. Obama at January 30, 2010 11:39 AM (/o58C)

258 She can inspire most of those things and still be POTUS. She has already inspired people to get involved and that will continue. She is gonna be the POTUS and she is going to turn this big government orgy right on its head.

Posted by: Dan at January 30, 2010 11:39 AM (KZraB)

259

We have a jug eared Marxist clown followed by a Bleached teeth, tanning booth, hair plugs walking talking gaffe machine Biden, followed by a haggard thunder thighed shrew. Rodham.

And we are critiquing Palin?

Posted by: gus at January 30, 2010 11:40 AM (Vqruj)

260 36 Possibly Huckabee is already far better at running for office than he'd be at being in the office.
 Abdominal Snowman....YES YOU ARE RIGHT. Reminds us of Obama doesnt it!?

Posted by: Dan at January 30, 2010 11:40 AM (KZraB)

261 40,

That was the difference with the Tea Party Rallies they were made up  of the conservatives who had families, jobs and lives. They were not idle rich or bored college kids. People watched these protests on tv and  saw normal American'. Not a bunch of liberal arts students in tie dyed shirts beating bongos and walking in stilts like some cirque de freak. When you can identify with the people in the movement it is easier to support their message.

This is why the Tea Parties were so effective.

Posted by: Gary B at January 30, 2010 11:41 AM (1gWfF)

262 The thread is getting older than Teddy, and starting to rot like that ole fart.

Four hours?  Anyone else home at Ace's?

Posted by: Kemp at January 30, 2010 11:43 AM (2+9Yx)

263 257 LOL, even I know hoops is the only college game going on.

Posted by: paleRider at January 30, 2010 11:44 AM (kb7sI)

264 Obama's halting speech patterns bug the shit out of me. That and the fact he goes both ways. And is clueless on economics. And loves socialism. I could be here all day.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 11:46 AM (ehLtp)

265 249 What passes for cake and presents in Tartarus?  Soul candles, rotting flesh cake, what?

Cake? Devil's Food. *rimshot*

Presents? A new snake collar for my Cerberus doggy, for one. Also a request to Persephone for Spring.

/Thanks, btw.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 30, 2010 11:46 AM (zmiSr)

266 One of the things I hate the most is that we shoot our own. Why don't we spend more time taking on the other side? It's not like they haven't given us plenty of ammo.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 30, 2010 04:38 PM (zmiSr

Excellent point.  Over at NRO's The Corner, some woman (here) was getting all concerned about Karl Rove conveniently not using some statistic she deemed vitally important not to have omitted.  He used qualifiers to make his point, which all of us have to do.  She either ignored them, or felt like they weren't "qualify-ish" enough.  Fine, but to put it in a major publication's most popular site?  What's the point?

Personally I think this is a gambit that people occasionally use to get noticed.  It's a variant of "insulting upward." Ramesh Ponuru is a master of the technique, which is why I think of him as The Wet-Blanket Conservative.

Those folks are the ones who aspire to win the steak knives.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 11:48 AM (9b6FB)

267 Sarah is going to be in Houston, TX on the 7th. She is joining Rick Perry for a pre-election rally. I live 5 hours from Houston but considering driving just to see Sarah. I wish they would hold a rally in Ft. Worth too.

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 11:48 AM (qLV03)

268 Wish I could go, but I hear it's expensive.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 30, 2010 11:54 AM (zmiSr)

269 BTW, Ramesh is freaking brilliant, and a die-hard conservative (I'm not a conservative, but I respect his position because you always know where he stands).  He just reminds me of the salesman who points out all the flaws on the used car, and very few of the real selling points.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 11:54 AM (9b6FB)

270

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 04:48 PM (qLV03)

I'm in TX-5.  Nice to know another patriot is here.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 11:57 AM (ucq49)

271 The tickets to rally are free if you get them from Rick Perry for Gov campaign. It's just the gas and 10 hours of driving. But I do really want to see her.

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 11:58 AM (qLV03)

272

Happy birthday, Miss80sbaby!! I wanted to put that on facebook but I can't get on for some reason.

You too, Tami! (althought I don't know you.....*waves hi*....)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 30, 2010 12:00 PM (wwigT)

273 Neo-Neocon makes a very significant point about Justice Alito's impromptu reaction to Obama's carefully prepared remarks.

Go read it, RFN.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 12:02 PM (9b6FB)

274

Whattup people? I've written two books that you may be interested in buying through my Amazon affiliate program.

The first book "The audacity of me" is a story about myself. The second book "Dreams of my self" is also about me.

If you order these books in the next half hour you will also receive a complimentary signed photo of me.

Regards, Michael Steele.

oh yeah. btw - go GOP. yadda yadda.

Posted by: Michael Steele at January 30, 2010 12:03 PM (TTegV)

275 Speaking of TX-5 did you hear Jeb Henserling at Obama's preach fest to the Repbulican Reps? I thought he was great.

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 12:03 PM (qLV03)

276 I might go to the Palin/Perry rally. It's like 5 minutes from my house.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 12:04 PM (ehLtp)

277 243 Anyone here from Nebraska? Is this real or photoshopped? http://twitpic.com/1063s8 Heh, heh... Drive thru brothels.. I just love my country!

Posted by: Former President William Jefferson Clinton at January 30, 2010 12:05 PM (SgGTT)

278

"did you hear Jeb Henserling at Obama's preach fest "

Luckily I did.  I say luckily, because I often miss a lot.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 12:07 PM (ucq49)

279 #233

Interesting post - but 180 degrees wrong.

They and their clone army of Obots have already breached the perimeter.  ...

Like the embattled LTC in Platoon calling for air-support on his own position, the time more drastic measures is upon us. To quote him, "...and may God help us all!"

The "Alinskyites" are losers.  They are getting their asses kicked.  They haven't breached any perimeter - they ARE the perimeter.  They have controlled the media, most of the commentariat, public schools, Hollywood, the unions, and a big chunk of Wall Street for years   John Q Public has finally noticed the mailed fist and is not pleased.  So down goes  Coakley.   Down goes the WH.  Down go the Dems.  Down goes their pet programs.  Down goes Obamacare.  Down goes Cap 'n Tax.  Down goes terrorist trials in NYC.

Nice try, Archi.  Next time, don't use a quote from an Oliver Stone movie.  Oliver Stone makes Lew Rockwell sound like Abraham Lincoln on one of Abe's good hair days.


Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2010 12:07 PM (HjPtV)

280

You know you're a shit-for-brains when you feel compelled to write one of these public drama-queen advice columns to Sarah Palin.


Posted by: sartana at January 30, 2010 12:09 PM (w1ePh)

281

I agree with the county-up approach, but I have a problem with the whole idea of citizens filing suit against everything they think the feds are doing wrong. Aren't legal challenges like this the same thing that prevents, for example, the runways being extended at O'hare becuase there may be some rare 'purple-spotted worm' or other exotic creature living on the land? Aren't legal challenges the reason why we can't drill off our coasts? And we are going to make things MORE efficent by adding  'citizen lawyers' to the mess?  Didn't the Roman Empire collapse becuase of all the domestic political infighting? (among other reasons)

This doesn't sound like a plan for renewel, it sounds like a plan for national suicide

Posted by: chicagodudewhotrades at January 30, 2010 12:09 PM (PiSzl)

282 Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 05:04 PM (ehLtp)

Sarah is also coming to MN to campaign for Michele Bachmann.  The combination of that much "Hawt" and "Awesome" in one place could cause an implosion into some sort of supermassive singularity - a black hole of Teh Awsome Hawtness, if you will.

I. Can't. Wait.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+tard at January 30, 2010 12:09 PM (NDj/7)

283 194
 
Awesome Zelazny riff there. My all time favorite Sci-Fi book. Lord of Light rules.

Posted by: Gnubreed at January 30, 2010 12:14 PM (PvbOJ)

284 One post today seems on the light side. Maybe everyone's playing golf or devising a scheme to take over health-care.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 30, 2010 12:18 PM (ehLtp)

285
I might go to the Palin/Perry rally. It's like 5 minutes from my house.

I'm thinking that might be pretty interesting, also. 

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 12:20 PM (fASi3)

286

the creepy, shaky voice; starting every friggin' sentence with "Well,".

You're kidding me right? Reagan was one of the greatest orators of the 20th century. Just hearing his voice lifts my heart. He makes Obama's uh, er, um, teleprompter chin lifting plodding cadance look like a bad 6th grade satire.

Reagan mesmerized a generation in a good not evil sort of way. He loved the US and you could hear it. "Creepy"? What rock or cesspool did you crawl out from under?

 

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 12:23 PM (g+Mx0)

287

Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL.

 

vS.

Hello Mr Muslim Kingtard, can I kiss you ass?   Please

Posted by: gus at January 30, 2010 12:25 PM (Vqruj)

288 283 194
 
Awesome Zelazny riff there. My all time favorite Sci-Fi book. Lord of Light rules.

Posted by: Gnubreed at January 30, 2010 05:14 PM (PvbOJ)

I agree with that (except I have a whole stack of all-time-favorites).

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 12:27 PM (9b6FB)

289 Reagan mesmerized a generation in a good not evil sort of way. He loved the US and you could hear it. "Creepy"? What rock or cesspool did you crawl out from under?

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 05:23 PM (g+Mx0)

Reality, dagny, just good, robust reality.


Besides, you appear to get my point. I can find a million things wrong with anyone you might claim is perfect. So the "I think Sarah sound dumb" posts clearly don't convince someone as smart as you. Nor do they convince anyone with two-or-more neurons that actually connect.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 12:32 PM (9b6FB)

290 One post today seems on the light side. Maybe everyone's playing golf or devising a scheme to take over health-care.

Or, maybe they joined a union.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 30, 2010 12:33 PM (554T5)

291 Spades Employees International Union?

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 12:37 PM (9b6FB)

292

Ace and crew

Pelosi's family is traveling in military jets without her

Iowahawk has a new brillant piece up

Obama admitted that dems snuck stuff into the bills to keep people from keeping their own insurance

Bush's lawyers were cleared

Elizabeth called the cops on John a year ago-said he stole her wallet

Why is Jon Stewart bailing on hopenchange?

Just a few ideas

Posted by: dagny at January 30, 2010 12:38 PM (g+Mx0)

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 12:38 PM (fASi3)

294

It’s too bad that most of the initial responses focused on Palin. She’s is incidental.

 

The whole point is simply shifting the “states rights” cry to “county rights.”

 

North didn’t come up with the idea so we don’t even need to address him or  his religious views.

 

I love conservative blogs, the information they provide, which I won’t find in MSM, and the assurance that there are likeminded people out there. But I get the impression that a lot of conservative blog commenters feel more comfortable letting Washington be the central one-stop source of governance (and political battles). While they’d prefer it to be a conservative federal government, most just don’t have an interest in actually getting involved in a direct way, which is what the county initiative requires.

 

It’s almost as if they enjoy the battle more than actually winning. (The “battle” is not synonymous with “election”.) It’s why most conservative commenters don’t really care about cultural issues, beyond gay marriage. (Abortion is a legal issue.) Unlike the Left, they don’t think the culture is any of their business. Just doesn’t interest them. But neither do government solutions. It’s just a total detachment.

 

I am biased because I fought my way onto my Republican County Committee. Last Thursday, the candidates for Congress in our competitive district had to take questions from a moron like me, face to face.

 

If we don’t want Washington to be the source of so much power and money, let’s stop spending so much political power and money trying to influence it. The county approach could work.

Posted by: CJ at January 30, 2010 12:38 PM (JQtNT)

295 Fire Eric Holder?  Is there any more room under Obama's bus?

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 12:39 PM (9b6FB)

296

Fuck all the nit picking and hand wringing.  Recognize what the DemonCrooks are.  Grab 'em by the throats, and treat 'em like chickens.

Just win baby!

Posted by: Al Davis at January 30, 2010 12:40 PM (ucq49)

297 My advice to Gov. Palin...
Run for President.

The way things are going, the corpse of Charlton Heston could beat Obama. Campaign in the midterms and announce you're running right AFTER the GOP wins back the House. Iowa will be a cakewalk since they'll like you're folksy religious side. New Hampshire is winnable, what with your Limited Government side.  Michigan will love your accent. South Carolina, you're southern conservatism.  You and Rubio can help each other win Florida. By this point, you've got the nomination.  The polls will be against you until they see you as a serious candidate. Then the people will actually listen to your policy ideas, and compare them to Obama's.  It'll be over by Labor Day.

Posted by: big_pale at January 30, 2010 12:42 PM (ThS0E)

298 The only reason Holder hasn't been fired yet is Obama wants to do more wildly unpopular and irresponsible shit in the legal/national security arena. Sad sack, do-boy Holder will stick around until all that's done, then he'll be fired as the guy responsible for doing all that unpopular and irresponsible shit.

Posted by: Cynic at January 30, 2010 12:43 PM (5HhWZ)

299 The low-level approach is already working.  That's the point of the Tea-Party groups.  Go to their sites and you'll see they are closely watching races for more than just Senator.

No, this piece was about Palin.  Otherwise it reads like me suggesting Ace begin to use new, hip terminology like ball-dipping, and barbed cock of Satan.  Or that Obama should try using a teleprompter.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 12:44 PM (9b6FB)

300 LOL, even I know hoops is the only college game going on.

Check out the Senior Bowl on the NFL channel.  2nd half is about to start, and Tebow failed to walk on water.

Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2010 12:44 PM (PD1tk)

301 I had the opportunity to read the last few chapters of "Game Change" today. (A link to a summary on my name.)

Palin had a mental breakdown right before the Couric interview. After that, McCain's staff was split over whether she could be trusted or not. The terms used are "glassy-eyed", "mentally unstable", and "catatonic".

Palin is about as temperamentally suited to be President as is Obama, which is to say not at all. You can't read that book and conclude otherwise.

Palin does well at short-term political tactics, so she should concentrate on Facebook.

Posted by: Zimriel at January 30, 2010 12:45 PM (sVzRC)

302 Spades Employees International Union?

Blog Slackers Local 25.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 30, 2010 12:45 PM (554T5)

303

Posted by: Zimriel at January 30, 2010 05:45 PM (sVzRC)

Uh, I think I'll trust Palin's version of events over the leftard propagandist hacks who wrote Game Change.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+tard at January 30, 2010 12:47 PM (NDj/7)

304 293
Holy fuck, this is hilarious:

Eco-Warrior Sets Himself on Fire in Front of Fur Store, Cop Grabs Riot-Gear-Sized Pepper Spray Canister Instead of Fire Extinguisher...Not-So-Hilarious Results Ensue....

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 05:38 PM (fASi3)


That's not funny. My parents died in a fire that was accelerated by a cop using pepper spray.

/old joke  (fixed the link, though)

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 12:48 PM (9b6FB)

305 Blog Slackers Ball Dippers Local 25.

Corrected.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 30, 2010 12:48 PM (hoowK)

306 Anyway Governor Palin could pull a Grace Parks Maxim Spread as POTUS, in front of the White House fireplace? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3sFPzTc6JE That would do more to boost patriotism than just about anything I can think of.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 30, 2010 12:50 PM (QECjC)

307 tl;dr I got the gist, though. It's the right approach. Posted by: S. Weasel at January 30, 2010 12:53 PM (7ccPl) You've picked up the English habit of understatement perfectly. Good lord, I adore The Palinator, but I don't want to hear her babble for three and a half hours. Get out the ol' yes-yes board and start channeling some Lincoln.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at January 30, 2010 12:53 PM (lygus)

308 301 I had the opportunity to read the last few chapters of "Game Change" today. (A link to a summary on my name.)

Palin had a mental breakdown right before the Couric interview.After that, McCain's staff was split over whether she could be trusted or not. The terms used are "glassy-eyed", "mentally unstable", and "catatonic".

You  are confusing the leftist's reinterpretation of the dipshit that ran McCain's campaign, with terms commonly used to refer to McCain, here and nearly every other "conservative" blog.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 12:53 PM (9b6FB)

309

the only advice she needs is to leave todd and marry me

seriously

she could say she's bi-partisan

Posted by: AoShq's token democrat at January 30, 2010 12:53 PM (pGaJr)

310

Anyway Governor Palin could pull a Grace Parks Maxim Spread as POTUS, in front of the White House fireplace?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3sFPzTc6JE

That would do more to boost patriotism than just about anything I can think of.

 

Yes, there was a reason why Grace park's character on BSG was named 'Boomer'

Posted by: chicagodudewhotrades at January 30, 2010 12:53 PM (PiSzl)

311
Palin had a mental breakdown right before the Couric interview.

The fuck are you talking about?  'Fake but Accurate' doesn't fly here. 

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 30, 2010 12:55 PM (fASi3)

312

"Awesome Zelazny riff there. My all time favorite Sci-Fi book. Lord of Light rules."

 

Great Book!

One of those dog eared, yellowed classics kept handy to re read every 6 years or so. 

One day, I will get to the Sci Fi  Soap Drama: "Dreams of my Daddy"


Posted by: Bruce at January 30, 2010 12:55 PM (1kwr2)

313 The low-level approach is already working.  That's the point of the Tea-Party groups.  Go to their sites and you'll see they are closely watching races for more than just Senator. No, this piece was about Palin. 

 

I disagree.  The local Tea Party thing is about county parties.  The above approach is about county governments. Huge difference.

 

The former is just another route to Washington. The latter suggests focusing on those other 3,141 governments that affect our lives.

Posted by: CJ at January 30, 2010 12:56 PM (JQtNT)

314

Spades Spunked Employees Eunuchs Internationalizing Union

 

FTFY

Posted by: Al Davis at January 30, 2010 12:57 PM (ucq49)

315

Subotai Bahadur at January 30, 2010 02:53 PM (jFEa1)

You the guy that posts over at the Belmont Club? You do good work.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 30, 2010 12:58 PM (P33XN)

316 293  that is awesome, i would buy her free beers for life

Posted by: AoShq's token democrat at January 30, 2010 01:01 PM (pGaJr)

317 Unlike the Left, they don’t think the culture is any of their business.

There is barely any discernible, redeemable culture left in this country.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 30, 2010 01:02 PM (554T5)

318

Palin had a mental breakdown  slapped by reality awakening right before the Couric interview,  after learning what a squish weasel, McLame was.

 

FTFY

Posted by: Al Davis at January 30, 2010 01:03 PM (ucq49)

319

Counter-proposal for Gov. Palin: Just keep being you.

A movement such as what this guy's proposing MUST be organic; it must come from the individuals, working within their communities as a community to truely be a transformative movement.

Also, this crap was tried before. It's called astroturfing.

It got us Obama.

Manufactured "grass-roots" movements produce artificial "Hope and Change".

We see this every day.

When it's organic, when it is genuine and real, we see tea parties and Scott Browns get elected.

I'll take the movement as it is, thank you.

Gotta crawl to walk, walk to run, run to win.

Posted by: SuperCool at January 30, 2010 01:04 PM (DRsTV)

320 Free moustache rides for Lady Sarah.

Posted by: Mr Baseball at January 30, 2010 01:09 PM (ucq49)

321 Well the fact that she raised 1.4 milllion. for the last half of the year, with little direct fundraising, probably indicates something. McCain was the catatonic candidate, so there was a degree of projection, from his really brilliant staffers (sarc)I meant to ask how successful has Mr. North's strategy has been,

Posted by: ian cormac at January 30, 2010 01:11 PM (EKsuG)

322

Anyone here from Nebraska?  Is this real or photoshopped?

http://twitpic.com/1063s8

Holy shit! I used to manage that gas station back in the mid 1990s! It was a different store then, but the background certainly looks like it's the store at 72nd & Pacific.

Haven't been by there in awhile so I can't say anything about the billboard. There are billboards along that street, but I don't remember one being there.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 30, 2010 01:17 PM (P33XN)

323

McCain was the catatonic geriatric candidate, on life support, requiring triple doses of Aricept, just one squish short of a sea anemone

 

FTFY

Posted by: common sense at January 30, 2010 01:33 PM (ucq49)

324 Well, call me naive if you want---
but I think the strategy outlined by Gary North is perfect.

Let's face it, folks---
the real reason we tend to look for national-scale solutions (such as "________ [fill in the blank] for President")
is that the REAL WORK that needs to be done is one-on-one with our neighbors, and on our local school board, and in our own neighborhoods and communities. Sarah DOES know that, and she's been damn good at it, as anyone in Wasilla, Alaska, can tell you.

In your heart, you know Gary North is right on this one thing.
If you're reluctant to acknowledge that, ask yourself how much of your reaction is because you know that this strategy requires YOU to get off your butt.

If we're honest, we know that the way we got into the "soft tyranny" that we're in now is that too many of us have been sitting on our butts (yes, I plead guilty) instead of jumping into the local fray as Sarah did.

Healthy local politics means healthy democracy.
Everybody sitting on their butt means that people with big ambitions and few scruples are going to come along and run your life.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 30, 2010 01:33 PM (orMqj)

325

Sarah had a mental breakdown before the Couric interview?

Bullshit.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 30, 2010 01:34 PM (P33XN)

326 Why does the Tea Party -- or Sarah Palin-- need Gary North's advice to do what they're already doing? Is he an association they would benefit by?

Posted by: Richard Mcenroe at January 30, 2010 01:34 PM (i/0Bx)

327
Supercool @ 319:
A movement such as what this guy's proposing MUST be organic; it must come from the individuals, working within their communities as a community to truely be a transformative movement.

Exactly why the Tea Party movement is so great---and why it's making the lefties wee-wee themselves!!!!

Nearly everyone I know--Tea Partier or not--seems to be extremely distrustful of ANY non-local politician anymore! This is a good sign.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 30, 2010 01:41 PM (orMqj)

328 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 30, 2010 06:17 PM (P33XN)

Kom and Go is the name of the store?

Do they have adult movies playing and lingerie "models" too?


Posted by: Long Island at January 30, 2010 01:52 PM (TiURi)

329

"Sarah had a mental breakdown before the Couric interview?"

Help me, here.  Halperin was one of the "unbiased", no dog in the hunt, authors? 

2004 Prez election.  Leaked memo.  ABC didn't need to be fair.  We have an election to win?  That Halperin?  I'd trust him.

Posted by: common sense at January 30, 2010 01:54 PM (ucq49)

330

A movement such as what this guy's proposing MUST be organic; it must come from the individuals, working within their communities as a community to truely be a transformative movement. Also, this crap was tried before. It's called astroturfing.

 

I don’t think you guys get it. You’re still looking at this through the ‘how do we win in Washington’ playbook. The Left thanks you for that. They want our debates to, ultimately, be about the federal government.

 

“Astroturfing” means a fake groundswell designed to ultimately affect what’s going on in Washington. And it’s about politics. This is about taking over the government that is closest to you. Not the one you see on MSNBC. Not some distant behemoth that doesn’t seem to change whichever party is in charge. It means the one downtown.

 

It’s already ‘organic’ and has been for decades.  But it’s not on TV, so it doesn’t have the attention of bloggers. It’s ready, it’s conservatism put in play and it could use some help.

 

Posted by: CJ at January 30, 2010 02:08 PM (JQtNT)

331

 Let's face it, folks---the real reason we tend to look for national-scale solutions (such as "________ [fill in the blank] for President")
is that the REAL WORK that needs to be done is one-on-one with our neighbors, and on our local school board, and in our own neighborhoods and communities.

 

Bingo. And if we are supposed to be different from the Left, insisting that a big federal government is not necessary, why do we put all of our attention and resources on campaigns for federal government?

 

I forced my way onto the County GOP and onto the school board. I am now one of five majority votes to pass, or not, a $150 billion budget. With a tax hike, or not.

 

We can do this.  

Posted by: CJ at January 30, 2010 02:13 PM (JQtNT)

332 Garbage.

Posted by: rae4palin at January 30, 2010 02:13 PM (G4RRM)

333 332 Garbage.   I assume you're referring to Newt, Linseed, David Brooks, David Frum, McLame, Crist, the old guard/limosene GOP liberals.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 30, 2010 02:28 PM (ucq49)

334

I forced my way onto the County GOP and onto the school board. I am now one of five majority votes to pass, or not, a $150 billion budget. With a tax hike, or not.

Yeah, that should be Million. With an M.

Posted by: CJ at January 30, 2010 02:34 PM (JQtNT)

335 #91, the reason it took the Left decades is that when they were shoved into a corner and marginalized, they fought back by stealth and subversion, often with Moscow's money.

The American Right, if we get shoved hard enough into a corner, we'll come out loudly.

And North's take-back-America at the county level is cribbed from Boston T. Party and the Free State Wyoming project. Read his novel Molon Labe if you doubt the idea. It's very well explained, well statistically researched, and has a couple technically fascinating murders in it. He did make a few hypothetical guesses in 2003-3 that didn't pan out, luckily, but I think he's right as to the depth, if not timeline, of the economic decline. 

Posted by: SGT Dan at January 30, 2010 02:41 PM (DwzLm)

336 This post is not sponge-worthy.

Posted by: motionview at January 30, 2010 03:36 PM (7/l6y)

337 The left is spoiling to have an election, any election, about Sarah Palin.  A DNC operative in Massachusetts tried very hard to bring Palin into Scott Brown's race.  Why?  Because they know that Palin is viewed as an intellectual light weight by many, many Americans.  Does any one here seriously think she helped McCain (himself a terrible candidate) after those horrendous interviews?  

Posted by: Dana White at January 30, 2010 04:10 PM (69y7b)

338

I dropped a link to the thread on Sarah's fan page.

So she has a chance of finding us Morons and do some Hobo hunting when in town.

Posted by: Cromagnum at January 30, 2010 04:14 PM (rRlh2)

339 337--Does any one here seriously think she helped McCain (himself a terrible candidate) after those horrendous interviews?

Oh brother, can't Mitt's trolls do any better than that?

Posted by: les grossman at January 30, 2010 04:16 PM (Vc/xe)

340 I trust McCain staffers about as far as I can throw them. They've shown themselves to be untrustworthy, backstabbing attention whores, over and over. Fuck each and every one of them.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, Hammerer of Bullshitters at January 30, 2010 04:31 PM (erIg9)

341 Back in the 80's, Gary North lived across the street from me.  No shit.  He had no signs, was kind of secretive, but every saturday a crowd of abortion protestors would meet there and head out to some doctor's office. 

I used to wonder if I should send him anonymous mail and tell him that I was from the Trilateral Commission and we were observing his every move, but I decided that wasn't right. 

Posted by: wws at January 30, 2010 04:32 PM (wk1nH)

342

341

Just like their boss...

 

Posted by: Nozzle at January 30, 2010 04:49 PM (lxg2b)

343 BTW, perusing one of the tea party sites, I noticed they are trying to get non-politicians into office.  That means NOT the folks who were on the school board, drain commission, whatever.  It means finding guys who were in Iraq, or ran a business.  So this "advice to Sarah" is clearly bullshit.

Now getting involved locally is good.  Lots of older folks do it, anyway, and not usually the lefties (too much work).

A much better use of your time is to support things like David Horowitz' work in reversing years of liberal indoctrination on the college campus. That's where the right lost this whole battle anyway, not at the level of city hall.

Posted by: K~Bob at January 30, 2010 04:51 PM (9b6FB)

344 I be thinking that perhaps SP should give Mr. North the advice....Like GET LOST!

Posted by: Dell at January 30, 2010 05:33 PM (o0L0L)

345

@40: "Well, the fundamental problems we face are:

1) Most people are to the right of "center" but they don't care enough about politics to really understand the issues.

2) Most conservatives are busy with life - jobs, families, etc. We don't have a group of slackers and the idle rich to exploit, let alone a system designed to produce activists.

3) The Left uses the government as a carrot and a stick. Do what they want and you get a bribe. Oppose what they want and you get regulated, investigated, and harassed. Conservatives value the rule of law too much to use government in this way
. "

You left out a critical problem: The Right sucks really, really, really badly at actually governing.  At best, they spend like liberals with a slight conscience; they honor their supposed conservative beliefs far more in the breach than the observance; they love collaborating with the Left, etc.

Until the Right figures out how to actually do what they practice, they're pretty well useless.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 30, 2010 05:56 PM (8MuSQ)

346

"do what they practice"

Gah...do what they say/practice what they preach.

Whichever works for ya.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 30, 2010 05:57 PM (8MuSQ)

347 This was the worst post in the history of Ace of Porch Monkeys.

Posted by: Keneesha Watoosi at January 30, 2010 06:23 PM (Ps8IT)

348 191 I'm not sure if ace even reads the comments but can someone tell me why Obama admitting that people can't keep their private insurance if the health bill passes isn't news? The president admitted he's a liar and no one even noticed.

Posted by: dvdivx at January 30, 2010 03:32 PM (mE32g)

Jim Hoft did, over at Gateway Pundit, posted at 1:16 p.m. today.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 30, 2010 07:06 PM (orMqj)

349 Posted by: fiatboomer at January 30, 2010 04:13 PM (0Wf6c)

I tend to agree with you, and I damn sure am no concern troll!
No matter how much we love Sarah, we love her despite verbal tics and whatever else. We already know her character and her incredible record of accomplishment in Alaska:

http://tinyurl.com/ydjfvhh

The average American does not know these things, because the mainstream media have done their best to make sure they never learn these things. They've painted her as dumb, and the verbal tics reinforce that for a lot of people.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 30, 2010 08:02 PM (orMqj)

350 Sarah is going to be in Houston, TX on the 7th. She is joining Rick Perry for a pre-election rally.

Posted by: Butzi at January 30, 2010 04:48 PM (qLV03)

She's gonna be in li'l ol' Salina, Kansas (population 45,000) next Friday, February 5, and my friends and I HAVE TICKETS!!!111!!!!1111

Counting down the hours now.....

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 30, 2010 08:10 PM (orMqj)

351

This very comment thread is the reason I think Sarah should ignore this advice and NOT promise not to run.  Just look at the debate here, and this is among the Morons:  She's going to run!  No, she's not! Is too!  Is not!  She'll get creamed!  No, she'll wipe the floor with them!  She's unelectable!  She's Reagan in a dress!

Now imagine the internal dialogue of her enemies.  They all hate her:  Some fear her, some dismiss her.   But they have one thing in common with us:  Not a single fucking one of them have a line on what the hell she's going to do next.  And that's her leverage.  So long as they don't know which option she;ll take, they have to defend against ALL of them.  Must be driving them NUTS.  Run or not, I think she's smart to wait as long as possible before committing one way or the other.  And when you think about it, doesn't the fact that so many people, of all political persuasions, are spending so much of their time dpondering and debating whether or not she WILL run, and what the ramifications are if she does or doesn't, speak VOLUMES as to her influence right now?

As for me:  if she DOES run, I will be hard-pressed to find a more personable, honorable, intelligent candididate, OR one whose political beliefs more closely match my own.  I defy any of you to give me a more compelling reason to vote for someone.

Posted by: Boy Named Sous at January 30, 2010 09:07 PM (NOjWP)

352

337 ...A DNC operative in Massachusetts tried very hard to bring Palin into Scott Brown's race. 

Yes, and we all know how devastatingly effective the DNC campaign against Brown was. cf Pudding as a dipping medium.

Posted by: Boy Named Sous at January 30, 2010 09:13 PM (NOjWP)

353 Sarah is playing it coy, which she should.  Promising to serve one term would be effective, promising not to serve makes her a celebrity talking head.   Not her strong point.  But she is a natural politician.  Let Sarah be Sarah. 

Forensic audits is the number one campaign promise that brings this Ponzi scheme down.  There's a Republican running for the primaries in Illinois whose making that his centerpiece.   Audit then investigate then indict, and use this as a club to beat the various departments to death.  

Make the sacred cows the hamburger of choice.  No more discretionary spending cosmetic lipstick on this rotting pigs carcass.   Go after the entitlements.  Audit and Destroy.

Posted by: Elf at January 31, 2010 01:30 AM (NyHj4)

354

(When you take a day to think about a post, your comments ends up below the costume jewelry spam. Oh, well.)

Activism is the Left's advantage, not ours. We're too busy living our lives. The Tea Parties have been effective because they're so out of character for the Right -- Wow! They must really be upset about something. The same goes for speaking up at "townhall" meetings. Ultimately, however, political activism is their game, and if we try to play their game by their rules on their turf, they'll win.

Also: I'm with those above who say let Sarah be Sarah. She became who she is without our advice, and she appears to know what she's doing now. Whatever the outcome for her, it will be for the best. When we start constructing politicians based on what we'd like them to be, we wind up with ... well, you know.

OT: Whatever happened to Bill Bradley?

Posted by: FireHorse at January 31, 2010 04:13 AM (cQyWA)

355 "The left is spoiling to have an election, any election, about Sarah Palin.  A DNC operative in Massachusetts tried very hard to bring Palin into Scott Brown's race.  Why?  Because they know that Palin is viewed as an intellectual light weight by many, many Americans.  Does any one here seriously think she helped McCain (himself a terrible candidate) after those horrendous interviews? "


Dana White-did the really smart Independent voters who voted for Barack Hussein Obama  threaten to send their black brothers to rape Sarah Palin if she stepped one foot inside Massachusetts? 

Sweetie, do you seriously think that your petty jealously does not make you look ugly?

Posted by: syn at January 31, 2010 04:56 AM (IlCz1)

356 Funny, We the People of Cuyahoga County just did that very thing. As of 2011 our corrupt Commissioners are out of a job. Our referendum sets up an executive board to end their corruption. They are all undergoing FBI investigations into corruption now. Our sheriff has also been fired and a new one appointed. We the People just had enough of it all. I worked my precinct to get the signatures for the ballot and worked to get the referendum to pass. Local "powers that be" tried to get a simple reform on the ballot as well. We shot that down in the voting booth. It can be done, and should be done. What we did in the county has rocked a lot of local municipalities and other counties surrounding ours and even the Governor's office. We're going to transition over this year and hold their feet to the fire to get it right. Bribes and kickbacks and corruption will no longer be tolerated. Since we are the largest county in the state with the highest population, the rest of the state has taken notice. It all starts at the local level. All of it!!

Posted by: bouncin at January 31, 2010 05:05 AM (2tBMA)

357 SERIOUSLY DANA WHITE

You fucking think I am to believe  INTELLIGENCE involves threatening to send the "black brothers to rape Sarah Palin if she stepped one foot inside Manhattan"?

Fucking Democrat voters and their fucking celebrity SHITHEADS are SOOOO FUCKING INTELLIGENT that they must use black men as threat of rape just to keep a woman down!

So fuck you and your FUCKING INTELLIGENT VOTERS who threaten rape when they need to win elections.

I say give the DNC what they want so that Americans can see the nasty motherfuckers for what they are-hideous RAPE-bating, fist-fucking misogynistic, racist sexist, enviro fucking freaks!

Posted by: syn at January 31, 2010 05:08 AM (IlCz1)

358 Interestingly, Insty links to a corollary to this approach.

Details discussed here.

On a national scale, as a function of this process, we could do worse than to support this guy's plan as a first step in pushing this country back to the Republic it once was.

Posted by: goy at January 31, 2010 05:27 AM (+Gze8)

359 "Dana White-did the really smart Independent voters who voted for Barack Hussein Obama  threaten to send their black brothers to rape Sarah Palin if she stepped one foot inside Massachusetts? 

Sweetie, do you seriously think that your petty jealously does not make you look ugly?"

Rape?  Jealousy?  I'm not really sure what you are asking me.  What I'm saying is we need a good conservative candidate to run against Barry in 2012.  We don't need someone who has embarrassed themselves and the Republican party in interview after interview. 

Check out this link on Sarah's speaking abilities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E

Posted by: Dana White at January 31, 2010 05:30 AM (69y7b)

360 Why not take the Alinsky approach, you know "Rules for Radicals" as do the progressives? Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame. It can work for conservatives to.

Posted by: kim in vancouver, usa at January 31, 2010 05:39 AM (3uQcG)

361 - Check out this link on Sarah's speaking abilities.

Heh. Yes, do that.

Posted by: goy at January 31, 2010 06:05 AM (+Gze8)

362

Jade Sea,

Re: Tina Fey.That was profound in it's simplicity and truth.

I don't knowwhat you do, but they are lucky to have you.

Posted by: Kathleen McKinley aka Rightwingsparkle at January 31, 2010 09:52 AM (8CCp3)

363 Sarah needs just to continue to be SARAH its what makes her strong and successful and why she's a thorn in her enemies sides both right and left.

Posted by: Rodney at January 31, 2010 11:38 AM (c6mrx)

364 I met Gary North back in '74 while a Freshman at a Christian college and he was a visiting scholar who guest lectured in my Economics class. He impressed me as being too extreme to be effective. And he wore a remarkably bad toupee.

He made some sense when he said to "buy gold" in the mid '70s (Nixon had said we're all Keynesians. Ford made up these "whip inflation now" buttons. And Carter was, well you know.)

But when Gary North said, "quit buying gold, buy guns now," I got off the train.

Posted by: Steve Poling at January 31, 2010 12:12 PM (nBrFn)

365 Good plan but then it is exactly what the commies have done to the humans so the cure is the same.

Posted by: Chris Edwards at January 31, 2010 02:06 PM (evfql)

366

Perhaps y'all should do a little research on Mr. North and his merry band of apocalyptic nitwits. You can start here:  http://tinyurl.com/yz2764b

Posted by: LaFemmeGordita at January 31, 2010 04:35 PM (k4Eh2)

367 Say what you want to about this guy (and I know very little about him, today) but it's like he read my mind.  I totally agree that a) this is what the country needs and b) this is the best use of Sarah Palin's time and talent.  With all due respect.  This is her gift - so much more effective in the grass roots than in the political class!

Posted by: Praying at January 31, 2010 06:01 PM (TgzLQ)

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