April 01, 2013

A Parenting Question
— LauraW

Which is the better way to cover the subject of guns with children?

1) Teach them that it is best to be utterly ignorant and terrified of firearms, to the point where merely chewing a poptart into a vague gun-shape seems like reasonable cause for punishment; or

2) This other method, called 'actual education,' right here.

Yep, that's SobekPundit's little 10 year-old crocodile sprout. And please do check out his 'ten things to teach boys,' a few items down in the comments section.

Liberals say about themselves that they value education, and broad-mindedness in general. But it seems to me that this depends on the subject matter, doesn't it? When it comes to firearms they are hysterically pro-ignorance.

H/T Sobek.

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1 Liberals thrive on ignorance, and the "Feels good" mentality.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 01, 2013 05:07 AM (G2dqF)

2 Mystery about dangerous things breeds intense curiosity in kids.  Remove the mystery, they're no longer interesting to kids.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 05:08 AM (/gHaE)

3 I fired a rifle for the first time when I was about 4 years old.  I have no fear of guns, but I have respect for their deadliness, just like I have for other dangerous tools.  Learn how to use them the correct way and they are very useful. 

Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2013 05:09 AM (bAGA/)

4 Another misunderstood Mooselum felon of peace driven by our society to kill...

Posted by: RioBravo at April 01, 2013 05:09 AM (eEfYn)

5 Is that a pellet rifle?

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2013 05:09 AM (GQ8sn)

6 I was taught the practical impact of firearms starting at about 3 and was shooting by age 5.  My son has not had that level of immersion but understands what guns are and are not.  The moonbats have managed to force gun education to be more taboo than fisting.

This is not about the kids it is about using the kids to destroy our liberty.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 05:10 AM (LRFds)

7

"Liberals say about themselves that they value education, and broad-mindedness in general'

Ha.

Ha Ha.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Snort.

But yes, they do "say" that about themselves...

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 05:10 AM (lbiWb)

8 It's done with grim intent. they want to trigger (cough) the cold sweat, clammy palms fear of guns that so many people already have. the more people who become puddles of slobbering terror the better. Makes them far more pliant for other things like, well, Obamacare.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Assault CAD Monkey at April 01, 2013 05:10 AM (K+mtQ)

9 Yea, sudden jihadi syndrome

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 01, 2013 05:10 AM (/gHaE)

10

 <<<And please do check out his 'ten things to teach boys,' a few items down in the comments section.>>>

 

That was excellent.  Good for him.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 01, 2013 05:11 AM (CJjw5)

11 Liberals use fear, the mind killer, to control people.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 01, 2013 05:11 AM (ztdrb)

12 I started teaching my kids about guns as soon as they were old enough to ask what I was doing when I had a gun out to clean. At age 5, my oldest could recite (and understand) the rules with guns, and on a recent trap shooting trip (she was my clay thrower/puller) pointed out a couple of guys with no muzzle discipline. Not bad for a seven year old.

Posted by: Sardiver at April 01, 2013 05:12 AM (DzMVK)

13

Hah!  The kid doesn't even have his finger on the trigger, so he don't know nothing about shooting and stuff. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2013 05:12 AM (TOk1P)

14

 "the more people who become puddles of slobbering terror the better. Makes them far more pliant for other things like, well, Obamacare" 

 

Ok, you just describe the House GOP leadership.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 05:13 AM (lbiWb)

15 @14. Well, not on purpose, but, yes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Assault CAD Monkey at April 01, 2013 05:14 AM (K+mtQ)

16 Speaking of overwrought, am I the only one who watches Walking Dead and  is supremely jealous of the weapons those people toss around like Easter candy? 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2013 05:15 AM (TOk1P)

17 If you're in the northeast, definitely selection 1.

Posted by: Attila at April 01, 2013 05:15 AM (Cs2tJ)

18 Liberals use fear, the mind killer, to control people.

I will bend like a reed in the wind.

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2013 05:16 AM (GQ8sn)

19 "Liberals say about themselves that they value education, and broad-mindedness in general." APRIL FOOLS!!!

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 05:20 AM (fWAjv)

20 Hello? Anyone left alive?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 01, 2013 05:21 AM (da5Wo)

21 Great stuff. Reminds me of my childhood training. Education is good, and its the only way to be a proper gun owner. #1 reminds me of my old man as well. His edict was that you could tell a lot about men and nations by how well their women were treated. Civilized societies have successful women all through society. And then there's Afghanistan.

Posted by: MTF at April 01, 2013 05:21 AM (+GpbP)

22 We don't have a gun problem in this country.  We have a "preparing children to be productive adult citizens" problem. 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 01, 2013 05:21 AM (pxDth)

23 Pussies fear my gun.

Posted by: eleven at April 01, 2013 05:22 AM (KXm42)

24

#18,

I prefer to be the lawn mower in the wind. Gas powered, Briggs & Stratton. Terrifies reeds, grass, puppies, and my hardcore leftwing neighbors, who never seem to be able to finish the job w/their rechargable electric thingamabob...

Fear, not so much - the stock in trade is "helplessness", as in "I can't do anything about "X" on my own, therefore I need (fill in agency/government)".

Pathetic.

 

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 05:22 AM (lbiWb)

25 Like Buckley said, liberals always say they are open to new ideas and accepting of different opinions, but then act all shocked to find out there are differing opinions.

Posted by: Mainah at April 01, 2013 05:23 AM (659DL)

26 $40 for a box of .45 ACP (50#) here in KS...preparing little Meanie to be an Air Force sniper is going to be an expensive proposition. Mrs Meanie and I had the discussion about the long-term effects of nagging last night. BLAB: it doesn't work.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 01, 2013 05:23 AM (Ec6wH)

27 >>>2 Mystery about dangerous things breeds intense curiosity in kids. Remove the mystery, they're no longer interesting to kids.

My bro in MA and his wife would not allow any kind of toy guns with their son, while my two boys have had all kinds of toy guns growing up here in NC.

His son kept a closet full of sticks from the yard, that were his "guns" when he was very young. The boy, now 16, has such a keen interest in firearms that my bro has to take him to a range and rent guns, since my Bro won't allow them in the house.

And here I have a safe full, and my 16 yo could care less.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 05:24 AM (4Mv1T)

28 "I’m okay with you working something menial until you earn something better." Anyone care to guess the worst 4-letter word to a liberal?

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 05:24 AM (fWAjv)

29 You're darn right we have a gun problem. And if we listen to the progressives, the only way to solve the problem is a hands on education! Bring out the rifles!

Posted by: RiverC at April 01, 2013 05:24 AM (El+h4)

30

#21, "Civilized societies have successful women all through society. And then there's Chicago this past weekend"

FIFY.

#20, no, not really. Chocolate hangovers and a false Kate Upton post has cleared the joint out big time...

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 05:24 AM (lbiWb)

31

If  you  love  your  children  you  teach  them  gun  safety  or  if  you  don't  care  about  them,  don't  and  make  guns  the  forbidden   fruit  that  they  will  pursue  whether  you  like  it  or  not.

 

It's  like  teaching  your  kids  how  to  swim  because  you  don't  want  them  to  drown;  you  don't  tell  them  to  never  go  near  the  water  for  the  rest  of  their  lives.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 01, 2013 05:26 AM (rXcBX)

32

"Anyone care to guess the worst 4-letter word to a liberal?"

Hope?

Love?

Laws?

 

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 05:26 AM (lbiWb)

33

"Anyone care to guess the worst 4-letter word to a liberal?"

 

*********

 

Soap?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 01, 2013 05:27 AM (pxDth)

34 "Anyone care to guess the worst 4-letter word to a liberal?"
Hope?
Love?
Laws?



WORK

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 05:27 AM (4Mv1T)

35 I prefer to be the lawn mower in the wind.

http://youtu.be/2-ze1uMtFVE

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2013 05:27 AM (GQ8sn)

36 #33, Thread Winner!

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 05:28 AM (lbiWb)

37 Actually, LauraW, ignorance is reqired to be liberal, with a heapin' helpin' 'o' stoopid to be a dedicated liberal.

Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2013 05:28 AM (OlN4e)

38 I find it amusing that when I just went back to the AoSHQ front page, the ad right below this post is for Federal Student Aid.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 01, 2013 05:28 AM (da5Wo)

39 It's a three letter word! J-O-B-S! -Joe Biden

Posted by: Mainah at April 01, 2013 05:29 AM (659DL)

40 EARN

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 05:29 AM (gqEUi)

41

FREE

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 01, 2013 05:30 AM (rXcBX)

42

#35, I know, I know. Gawd, that flick was awful (and I don't mean in the Classic English term of "awe filled", either). Not sure that anyone could turn Dune into a decent film - better to be left as a book.

Wait, is "book" another 4 letter word that libs can't stand?

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 05:30 AM (lbiWb)

43 I took my 5 year old Son out into the New Mexico wilderness for a little shooting. I took my .357 loaded with full house max pressure reloads. I figured when I turned that thing loose it would scare him to death. I fired a couple of rounds at a target and looked around to see what he was doing. He was walking toward me and said "now I shoot". Heh. Nothing quite like a 5 year old popping away at a beer can with a .357 magnum.

Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2013 05:31 AM (OlN4e)

44 40 EARN Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 10:29 AM (gqEUi) Winner winner!

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 05:31 AM (fWAjv)

45

I always thought a long gun safety class culminating in shooting a .22 and/or .410 shotgun, you know the way it's been done for generations, is pretty good.  

Not to diminish the obvious differences in capacity to kill a large number of people, but glorified garden tools, essentially, were used to kill millions and probably billions of people for generations.  People have to learn not to kill each other.  Kids will learn it either way.     

Posted by: Beagle at April 01, 2013 05:32 AM (sOtz/)

46

"Remove the mystery, they're no longer interesting to kids."

Hey, I know - let's "ban" smoking in certain places and raise the drinking age to 31. That'll work... at making both activities insanely popular.

Later, all.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 01, 2013 05:33 AM (lbiWb)

47 Just read ol' Bill Ayers (author of Dreams from my Father) is out protesting with the Chicago teachers.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 05:33 AM (fWAjv)

48

I've got a son on the way. Mom is forbidding any knowledge of guns until he's about 8 or older, by which time I figure the Pavlovian reactions will be set firm and he'll never really be comfortable with 'em. Hell, I came into all late in life and without that I still suck.

 

OTOH, showing them to kids "too young" can get you in hot water these days too ["does your dad have guns?" - CPS workers everywhere]

 

Anyway I don't have any hard answers yet. I figure first find out if the kid is crazy or whatever, then go to toys and train safety, then airsoft.

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at April 01, 2013 05:34 AM (3ZtZW)

49 I tagged the 10 things for boys to learn for my grandson who is stuck living with his dad and step bitch about 250 miles  away.  He's going to have values whether his dad likes it or not. 

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 05:34 AM (gqEUi)

50 43 I took my 5 year old Son out into the New Mexico wilderness for a little shooting. I took my .357 loaded with full house max pressure reloads. I figured when I turned that thing loose it would scare him to death. I fired a couple of rounds at a target and looked around to see what he was doing. He was walking toward me and said "now I shoot". Heh. Nothing quite like a 5 year old popping away at a beer can with a .357 magnum. Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2013 10:31 AM
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Glad it worked out, but pretty heavy ordinance. I don't know that I would regard that as 'fun', even now. Maybe you could step up to .454 Casull, just cut to the chase.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 05:35 AM (aDwsi)

51 Glad it worked out, but pretty heavy ordinance. I don't know that I would regard that as 'fun', even now. Maybe you could step up to .454 Casull, just cut to the chase.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 10:35 AM (aDwsi)

 

 

 

 

He's a cop now. Still insists on loading his .44magnum Ruger reloads to the ragged edge.

Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2013 05:37 AM (OlN4e)

52 That kid has a bad nose.  Fuck the gun, get his teeth and nose fixed.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at April 01, 2013 05:37 AM (Cydud)

53 From the comments section: 2. You will learn how to maintain an automobile. You don’t need to know how to rebuild a 2012 Camry from scratch – no one know how to do that, anymore – but you will change tires and oil and other simple maintenance tasks. heh. This was my April Fools joke to my hubby this morning. He has a brunch to go to today, hates getting up early on a non-work day. I told him a tire was flat on the car. He never went and looked, but plugged in the compressor we have to charge it up. He worked out, showered, then went to "fix" it. It took him a while to decompress. lol He said "that's not an April Fools joke. I was stressed for hours. I was going to call my parents to come pick me up, blah, blah, blah..." The funny thing was, he opened the garage door to throw out some recyclable, but never looked at the car. It didn't have to go on for hours -- only 15-20 minutes. Eventually he squeezed out a smile, because he was so burned, and he knew it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 01, 2013 05:39 AM (XYSwB)

54 @52   That be funny.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 05:39 AM (4Mv1T)

55 "Anyone care to guess the worst 4-letter word to a liberal?" LAURA W.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 01, 2013 05:39 AM (Ec6wH)

56 51 Glad it worked out, but pretty heavy ordinance. I don't know that I would regard that as 'fun', even now. Maybe you could step up to .454 Casull, just cut to the chase.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 10:35 AM (aDwsi) He's a cop now. Still insists on loading his .44magnum Rugerreloadsto the ragged edge. Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2013 10:37 AM
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As the twig is bent.......

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 01, 2013 05:40 AM (aDwsi)

57 Glad it worked out, but pretty heavy ordinance. I don't know that I would regard that as 'fun', even now. Maybe you could step up to .454 Casull, just cut to the chase. Nothing like a 12 ga single shot goose gun that's longer than you are at age 8. Still have that damn gun.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2013 05:40 AM (GFM2b)

58 This comment was particularly poignant: 8. You will care about your neighbors, your community, your state and your nation, and serve them when you have the chance. Men are not allowed to be hermits. I’m teaching you these things so you can benefit others. So many men have become hermits.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 01, 2013 05:42 AM (XYSwB)

59 Growing up in the South, we didn't have weapons that you really could not use.  Like this stupid gun.

I first carried my single shot 20 Ga on a quail hunt with my dad, I was eight? any way.  When the dogs pointed, I got to put a shell in the gun, and then when the birds flushed I shot.  Of course a bird fell, which I am sure my dad shot, but everyone said I did, so OK.  I got one!

Small things mean so much to kids!



Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at April 01, 2013 05:42 AM (Cydud)

60 You can see the results of both options in my own home. My older daughter, 12, has been taking lessons and going to the range with my wife and me. My younger daughter, 10, has not touched a gun yet. When I bought my first gun to keep at home, I sat them both down to review rules, etc. My older daughter absorbed everything, asked helpful questions, etc. My younger daughter acted as if I had brought some kind of evil talisman into the house and wanted to leave the room. She is going to archery/gun camp this summer, so thet will get fixed now that she is old enough. But it was instructive to see how our kids are "educated" by the media and educational establishment about guns, that they can be scared of a firearm in a house with NO AMMO (at the time).

Posted by: Doug W at April 01, 2013 05:43 AM (S6I/9)

61 I sure wish I hadn't lost all my firearms in that tragic accident on the lake.

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 05:43 AM (gqEUi)

62

I'd say that list of    "10 Things to Teach Boys"     should   be "10 Things to Teach Children," period.   Girls would be well served if their parents taught them those same things.  

 

Well, except the bit about respecting women.   Fuck that.  I've got no respect for women.   But they should learn to respect      people    who deserve their respect, and shun people who don't.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 01, 2013 05:43 AM (4df7R)

63 56-How tall is he? Curious, for academic study. More anecdotal, to be fair.

Posted by: nip at April 01, 2013 05:44 AM (lGVXf)

64 58 artisanal e'tte,

yeah well society doesn't want normal white men around much these days...forgive me if I am a tad shut-inish

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 05:44 AM (LRFds)

65 Just be mindful of when to take them out, and when not to. I took my oldest out to the farm too young. He was otherwise very obedient, and very interested in guns, and yet...walked right out in front of me while I was aiming at target with finger on the trigger. Scared the ee-mortal shit out of me. 

And never should have told the wife. Guns stayed the safe for about 15 years after that.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 05:45 AM (4Mv1T)

66

I need to borrow the kid and the gun.

 

Just got off the phone with lawn spraying service.  For the past few years, they've been getting greedy and ballsy, coming out to the house every few weeks to spray for this, that or the other thing.

 

Last fall I went ballistic on them, telling them to never come back.  Well, yesterday I open the door to find a bill for the first spraying of the year. 

 

The conversation this time was at an elevated level with a lot of "thieving cocksuckers" and "gypsy scam artists" thrown in.  Now I'm wondering how many people they do this to, especially older folks who don't relish interpersonal conflict like I do.

 

Time to post the kid outside on the lawn with an AK-47 to enforce my "no spraying" rule.

Posted by: jwest at April 01, 2013 05:45 AM (u2a4R)

67 maddogg, that's a heartwarming story. About gun education: I grew up in a very anti-gun household, in Massachusetts, so guns were not just forbidden but foreign. Eventually I joined the Army and met people with very different upbringings. One fellow told the story of how his dad impressed on him the need for firearm safety. When he was five, and had been asking has dad to teach him to shoot, his dad took him outside (rural area) where he'd set up a five-gallon glass jug full of water. They'd already covered the basics of safety, so now his dad handed him a twelve-gauge and told him to point at the jug and shoot. The kick knocked him on his ass; the jug shattered into tiny bits. His dad then pulled him up by the shoulders, looked him in the eye, and said, "Now remember. That happens every time you pull the trigger, and you can't ever take it back." And as he told it, he grew up with guns as part of his environment. Just a tool - but a damn serious one you don't screw around with. My very anti-gun family were appalled when I recounted that. Personally I'm thinking of doing the same when my boy's old enough.

Posted by: JPS at April 01, 2013 05:45 AM (161S8)

68 Let me put it this way:
I've been around guns my whole life.
And I'm damned scared of them. Because I know what they can do.
Or I guess that's just a healthy respect.

Seeing a little 1/3 of an ounce of lead bringing 800lbs elk down will do that.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 01, 2013 05:45 AM (VjL9S)

69

58 -

 

The part I disagree with here is the notion that I'm supposed to care about and serve my neighbors.  I'm not a hermit, but I'm not  going to be nice to the a**hole living across the street just because we bought houses  in the same geographic region. 

 

That's where the part about earning respect comes in. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2013 05:46 AM (TOk1P)

70 56-How tall is he?

Curious, for academic study.

More anecdotal, to be fair.

Posted by: nip at April 01, 2013 10:44 AM (lGVXf)

 

 

If you're talking to me he is 6 feet.

Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2013 05:46 AM (OlN4e)

71 That round  he fired went through  13,486  PopTarts before stopping.

Posted by: Roy at April 01, 2013 05:46 AM (VndSC)

72 5 Myths Liberals Have Created About Themselves http://is.gd/NbAtny

Posted by: toby928 sips the sweet tea of despair at April 01, 2013 05:47 AM (QupBk)

73 dammit

Posted by: toby928 sips the sweet tea of despair at April 01, 2013 05:48 AM (QupBk)

74 yeah well society doesn't want normal white men around much these days...forgive me if I am a tad shut-inish Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 01, 2013 10:44 AM (LRFds) I know. Too many people are being hammered into submission, especially white men, I agree. It's sickening.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 01, 2013 05:48 AM (XYSwB)

75

@43 You Tube is filled with boyfriends like you.


"Here honey.  No the fifty cal pistol/ huge hunting caliber/twelve gauge with three inch mags... should be no prob. for you." 

Posted by: Beagle at April 01, 2013 05:49 AM (sOtz/)

76 Oh, and, Sobek's advice in the comments is brilliant. My favorite: "no one owes you respect until you earn it. If you have not earned respect, you will not demand it or act like it is owed to you." Gad, how much fucked-up behavior would be avoided if every kid learned this.

Posted by: JPS at April 01, 2013 05:49 AM (161S8)

77 I'd say that list of "10 Things to Teach Boys" should be "10 Things to Teach Children," period. Girls would be well served if their parents taught them those same things.

Well, except the bit about respecting women. Fuck that. I've got no respect for women. But they should learn to respect people who deserve their respect, and shun people who don't.

-----

Not to start a Word War III..... but.....

.... I think part of the issue with the emasculation of the American Male has to do with having to include females in everything male.    There is nothing inherently uniquely male any longer.  

Leave the damn list the hell alone.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 01, 2013 05:50 AM (nELVU)

78

I sure wish I hadn'tlost all my kids in that tragic accident on the lake.

 

OK not funny, I just wanted to compare/contrast

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at April 01, 2013 05:51 AM (3ZtZW)

79 That's where the part about earning respect comes in. Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2013 10:46 AM (TOk1P) The thing is, it might take an act of kindness to break the ice. I forced my husband outside to go help a couple of other neighbors -- who were helping a woman who had gotten her car stuck in the snow/ice. It was weird to me that he hadn't even thought about going out to help.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 01, 2013 05:51 AM (XYSwB)

80

I think part of the issue with the emasculation of the American Male has to do with having to include females in everything male. There is nothing inherently uniquely male any longer.

 

Yes, but if you read the list there is nothing on there that isn't just plain old common sense for all.   The only thing that might be considered "uniquely male" is the bit about auto repair, but frankly i WISH I'd learned auto repair as a kid.   It'd save me from getting hosed every time I go to the mechanic as an adult.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 01, 2013 05:52 AM (4df7R)

81 Of course lies and ignorance are better than knowledge and truth.  If it were otherwise, a number of things would happen that we simply can't tolerate in progressive America.  Charlie Rangel would be in a cage looking out, for one thing.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 01, 2013 05:53 AM (Hx5uv)

82 I'd say that list of "10 Things to Teach Boys" should be "10 Things to
Teach Children," period





Well, somethings you don't have to teach boys.  Course if you do it too much, you will go blind.  That's what the nuns say anyway.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at April 01, 2013 05:55 AM (Cydud)

83

@65

I was thinking double digits at the earliest.  Though I know there is a long tradition in rural areas of learning a lot younger than that.  There are places where you can walk out the door and shoot enough ammo for a platoon-sized engagement and nobody will notice.  

My dad let me shoot at around 12 and I went to a camp with some firearms activities around the same age.  Doubt that still exists.  

Posted by: Beagle at April 01, 2013 05:55 AM (sOtz/)

84 knowledge is power

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 01, 2013 05:55 AM (GVxQo)

85

79 -

 

After we moved into the neighborhood,  the guy introduced himself to me by coming into my back yard to tell me he was going to call the cops on me for shooting off fireworks on the 4th of July.

 

He hasn't spoken a word to me since, and I'm not about to introduce "kindness" into it. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2013 05:55 AM (TOk1P)

86 Another good post, btw, Laura. Thx.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 01, 2013 05:56 AM (XYSwB)

87

Charlie Rangel would be in a cage looking out, for one thing.

 

In my dreams, along with Holder, Jackson and Sharpton.

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 05:56 AM (gqEUi)

88 Another good post, btw, Laura. Thx. Always a treat.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 01, 2013 05:56 AM (XYSwB)

89 Oh, and I should point out when I was about 5, I came less than an inch from death. Older brother screwing around with his 7mm Mag.
Felt the wind through my hair as bullet passed, hole in the fence behind where I was standing, bleeding hole in the cow behind that.

Yeah, I remember it still.

NRA gun safety rules are absolutes.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 01, 2013 05:57 AM (VjL9S)

90 I have one more to add to the list:


11.  Never give your boys open, unrestricted access to the internet.

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2013 05:58 AM (GQ8sn)

91

"Anyone care to guess the worst 4-letter word to a liberal?"

 

 

HUMP 

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 01, 2013 05:58 AM (rXcBX)

92 Looks like I picked the wrong day to take off from work.  Nasty storm moving in, huge black clouds and thunder and wind.  Shit.

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 05:58 AM (gqEUi)

93 Time to post the kid outside on the lawn with an AK-47 to enforce my "no spraying" rule. Get skunk. Train skunk. Tell them, "You spray my yard, Skippy sprays your truck".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2013 05:59 AM (GFM2b)

94

You can't teach children about guns, but you CAN teach them how to put a condom on an erect penis,    how to use a diaphragm,        what an abortion is and    how to get one,      and    why some people like      fucking members of the same gender.       The SOONER you teach children these things    the more knowledgeable they'll be and    thus    less likely to take part in risky sexual behavior as    a teenager   and then an adult.      It is IMPERATIVE that we start teaching our kindergarteners and pre-schoolers about the birds and the bees   as    early as possible.

 

But teach them about GUNS?   BLASPHEMER!!

 

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Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 01, 2013 05:59 AM (4df7R)

95

Every once in awhile there are stories of murder/suicides with young couples that by all accounts were crazy for each other and I always have in the back of my mind it was probably violation of basic gun safety, like "look its empty, see?" *pow* "oh shit" so yeah, good to teach those habits waaaay early

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at April 01, 2013 05:59 AM (3ZtZW)

96 There is nothing inherently uniquely male any longer.

Women in America have been using firearms for food and protection since they started coming over on boats.


Funny, isn't it, how we rant and rave about proggs dividing people into groups by color and gender and whatnot and demanding all individuals in that group do and believe the same things, then y'all turn around and do it yourselves.

Posted by: HeatherRadish drinking heavily at April 01, 2013 06:00 AM (hO8IJ)

97 I think part of the issue with the emasculation of the American Male has to do with having to include females in everything male. There is nothing inherently uniquely male any longer. Pissin' standing up with your jeans on. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2013 06:01 AM (GFM2b)

98

Not only does it still exist, but it appears exactly the same. 

http://tinyurl.com/cg6rbkr

Posted by: Beagle at April 01, 2013 06:02 AM (sOtz/)

99 You can't teach children about guns, but you CAN teach them how to put a condom on an erect penis,

***

Guns kill.  Penises create life.  That's why we need abortions.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 01, 2013 06:02 AM (Hx5uv)

100 Great thoughts on guns. Started the boys out with BB guns at Christmas. Will be introducing the oldest to the mysteries of .22lr later this year.

Posted by: Emdoc at April 01, 2013 06:03 AM (oAzfZ)

101

90 -

 

12. Tell your kids things in a way that sounds like the words coming out of your mouth are the gospel truth.  Until the day when your kid tells you something that sounds like gospel truth, and you didn't tell it to them first.  From that day forth, gradually spend more time listening to, and less time talking to your kid. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2013 06:03 AM (TOk1P)

102 Oh and one more:


12.   Never, under any circumstances, let your young boys watch a martial arts movie a half hour before bedtime.

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2013 06:05 AM (GQ8sn)

103 EC, do tell.

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 06:06 AM (gqEUi)

104 Broke down and bought myself a Serbu BFG-50 (http://www.serbu.com/top/bfg50.php).  Shame about losing it in that tragic boating accident this summer.

Posted by: juat another fapping moron at April 01, 2013 06:07 AM (0APJ3)

105 >>>Never give your boys open, unrestricted access to the internet.

Mine are 16 and 20. While I absolutely wish this was possible, I have learned it largely is not, if that child is so inclined.

My oldest was ultimately banished from the family PC. I even made him use the PCs at the library during his first year at community college while he was still living here, due to his willful ways.


Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 01, 2013 06:07 AM (4Mv1T)

106

OT, but     the religion of fucking peace strikes again.

 

 

Afghan      teenager fatally stabs US soldier

MyFoxDC: http://tiny.cc/swavuw

 

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - An Afghan teenager killed an American soldier in eastern Afghanistan by stabbing him in the neck while he played with a group of local children, officials said Monday.

 

 

...

 

 

Sgt. Michael Cable, 26, was guarding Afghan and U.S. officials meeting in a province near the border with Pakistan when the stabbing occurred last Wednesday, two senior U.S. officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

 

 

The attack occurred after the soldiers had secured the area for the meeting, but one of the U.S. officials said the youth was not believed to have been a member of the Afghan security forces or in uniform so it was not being classified as an insider attack.

 

 

The official said the attacker was thought to be about 16 years old, but the age couldn't be verified...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 01, 2013 06:07 AM (4df7R)

107 103 EC, do tell.

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 11:06 AM (gqEUi)



Trying to get three young boys to calm down to go to bed after watching an old school dubbed kung-fu movie with the impossible stunts and wire-work is an exercise in futility.  They were beating the crap out of each other while brushing their teeth, complete with sound FX.

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2013 06:08 AM (GQ8sn)

108 Our Gun Club along with a couple of supporting organizations hosted an open to the community family and firearms education day on Saturday - it was only advertised on Facebook and word of mouth.  We had over 400 people ages 8 - 76 come out who had never handled a firearm before but wanted to learn more.  We didn't get a negative review from anyone.

We're still looking at the outcomes for the day but so far we've had 41 families sign up for our multi-discipline competitive youth shooting sports program.  83 families joined the Gun Club and at last count over 200 people had signed up for a six week beginners course that will culminate in a CCL class in June.

And we are located in a Blue County.

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at April 01, 2013 06:09 AM (L4CWX)

109 Heather....

Funny, isn't it, how we rant and rave about proggs blathering on about being all offended and butthurt  and whatnot and demanding all individuals in that group do and believe what is currently politically correct.


You take offense when none is intended.   If Ive tread on the scared alter of womanhood..... too damn bad.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 01, 2013 06:09 AM (nELVU)

110 The official said the attacker was thought to be about 16 years old, but the age couldn't be verified... The goat isn't talking.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 01, 2013 06:10 AM (GFM2b)

111 heh.... SACRED not SCARED

Posted by: fixerupper at April 01, 2013 06:10 AM (nELVU)

112 Mine are 16 and 20. While I absolutely wish this was possible, I have learned it largely is not, if that child is so inclined.


Boys will find pr0n even you didn't know existed!

Posted by: EC at April 01, 2013 06:11 AM (GQ8sn)

113

We had over 400 people ages 8 - 76 come out who had never handled a firearm before but wanted to learn more. We didn't get a negative review from anyone.

 

That is AWESOME.   Way to go!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 01, 2013 06:11 AM (4df7R)

114 Trying to get three young boys to calm down to go to bed after watching an old school dubbed kung-fu movie with the impossible stunts and wire-work is an exercise in futility. They were beating the crap out of each other while brushing their teeth, complete with sound FX. Posted by: EC at April 01, 2013 11:08 AM (GQ8sn) so cute

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 01, 2013 06:15 AM (XYSwB)

115

So now France is going to use drones to deliver the mail.  


What next?  Drones to deliver   your   baby?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 01, 2013 06:15 AM (4df7R)

116 Funny ED.  Miss my grandson.  Nothing like young healthy boys! lol.

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 06:16 AM (gqEUi)

117 Shit.  Corrected to EC.

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 06:17 AM (gqEUi)

118 Can't understand why parents would support that Aurora shooter.  Guess I'm cold, but fuck that.  If that was my kid, good riddence, enjoy prison.

Posted by: Infidel at April 01, 2013 06:19 AM (gqEUi)

119 *bangs head into keyboard*

At Camp NaNoWriMo one of my cabin mates is a 24 year old teacher from Austin TX.  Her fantasy novel is set after an end of the world event that has seen a return of magic and apparently sentient trees.  But alas evil corporation politics is trying to mess up that abundance of magic.

*reaches for the Agent Orange*

Dear Madam, the Ents would like you to cease and desist stealing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 01, 2013 06:26 AM (ztdrb)

120 Buddies wife gets worried when her hubby and I take her 16 year old 'baby' out shooting on some private land. Believe me, we are much more safe than any range I've ever been to.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2013 06:28 AM (fWAjv)

121 All this bullshit started about the time when boys couldn't carry a little pocket knife. Now, for pete's sake, you can't even play dodge ball. Every young man between age 8 and 12 should have a pocket knife, be sent to the forest to whittle a club, and choose up sides to play Braveheart.

Posted by: Bill at April 01, 2013 06:28 AM (xFYVW)

122 "5 Is that a pellet rifle?" Yes it is. Actually, a combo pellet/BB gun.

Posted by: Sobek at April 01, 2013 06:47 AM (Z7fMU)

123
Since I have no children of my own, I have to live vicariously through my nephews. Just took the oldest (15) for his first time at the range over the Christmas holiday, shooting my 10/22 and the AR. At the fierce insistence of my SiL (DAMNED good woman). He was kind of jaded (lots of COD Modern War), until I had him watch me shoot the Finn M39. First round was with him hugging me from behind so he could feel a bit of the recoil. Meh. But when he called out for me to hit a 3/4" pastie, and I turned it into a donut..........yeah, his eyes got wide. Gotcha, kid.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2013 06:52 AM (TIIx5)

124 Firearms education in schools should be taught with exactly the same principles as sex ed.

Take your pick, leftists.  Abstinence (from sex AND guns) or not?

Posted by: Phelps at April 01, 2013 06:54 AM (xMVKl)

125 'Liberals say about themselves that they value education, and broad-mindedness in general.' Education as fascist propaganda. Broad-mindedness in general as expounding fascist propaganda liberally without discretion.

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 01, 2013 07:11 AM (MhA4j)

126 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR9ojNddiSI

Mattel toy guns did not turn me into a shooting maniac.   Play with toys is still ok.

Posted by: SarahW at April 01, 2013 07:20 AM (LYwCh)

127

I tought my ankle-biters to shoot when they were pre-school

They loved the smoke and flame of the black-powder pistols.

Nowadays a fun outing is going to the range with my kids and their kids.

Posted by: trainer at April 01, 2013 07:25 AM (K5X44)

128 Liberals say a lot of things, but they are very consistent if you just look at what they do. Their every act promotes gathering power in a centralized government, the disempowerment of the individual, and special privileges and immunities for the elite of their party. All the rest is just means towards that end.

Posted by: Socratease at April 01, 2013 07:50 AM (3V4IJ)

129 It is much better to let them learn all they know of guns at the movies and videogames.

Posted by: Thresherman at April 01, 2013 07:54 AM (Vbcjo)

130 You can't educate children without actally educating them. This time let the Dems run the abstinence programs at school. They even have their own Nancy to say "Just say no to....guns."

Posted by: losthusker at April 01, 2013 08:05 AM (P7sQR)

131 Until my kids are close to double figures and ready to learn the finer points, I want them to know the important things about firearms. 1) Don't touch without your parents present. 2) If you must, this is how you open the breech and render safe. Hence my preference for bolt actions. 3) If something awful has happened to BOTH Mummy AND Daddy, this is how you make it ready to fire and use it on the Something Awful. 4) If you do this when both Mummy and Daddy are perfectly safe, your backside will know pain like you would never believe.

Posted by: perturbed at April 01, 2013 08:07 AM (u6Ueb)

132 My youngest son, who's 15 now, got his shotgun merit badge in Scouts. It is good for a boy (and girls, too, of course) to learn how to handle a gun, particularly because it teaches responsibility: this machine is fun, but dangerous, and it's your responsibility to follow the rules and handle it right.

Posted by: Brown Line at April 01, 2013 08:27 AM (VrNoa)

133 I'm starting to take seriously, what I thought was a whackjob tinfoil hat theory. This is a program to condition, to terrorize, to brainwash our children into fearing and hating guns and patriotism. If the Liberal scum can ruin our children, they have won. Counterattack. Buy your child a gun, as young as he or she can operate one, and take them to the range. Let them talk it up with their friends. Spread the Good News. Μολὼν λαβέ

Posted by: Mannie at April 01, 2013 08:28 AM (QY3oj)

134 62 I'd say that list of "10 Things to Teach Boys" should be "10 Things to Teach Children," period. Girls would be well served if their parents taught them those same things.

Well, except the bit about respecting women. Fuck that. I've got no respect for women. But they should learn to respect people who deserve their respect, and shun people who don't.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 01, 2013 10:43 AM (4df7R)


You miss the point - females are the weaker sex, so automatic respect = safer society. <<<Things a feminazi will never say. 


btw - teaching men to respect the gender does NOT automatically mean they must respect the particular female.

Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at April 02, 2013 01:10 AM (bdged)

135 80 I think part of the issue with the emasculation of the American Male has to do with having to include females in everything male. There is nothing inherently uniquely male any longer.

Yes, but if you read the list there is nothing on there that isn't just plain old common sense for all. The only thing that might be considered "uniquely male" is the bit about auto repair, but frankly i WISH I'd learned auto repair as a kid. It'd save me from getting hosed every time I go to the mechanic as an adult.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 01, 2013 10:52 AM (4df7R)


I thought you were a female, but wasn't sure! I do know some mechanics {was an AE & a BU in the USN} but because I'm female, my opinion doesn't carry the same weight. I told my husband to take in the car the next time, to see if they try to hose him too!!!

Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at April 02, 2013 01:24 AM (bdged)

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