August 31, 2005
— Ace Add that factoid into the likely case that many of the poorest (who are disproportionately black) didn't or couldn't flee from the city, and it puts the black face of looting in better context.
They are stealing appliances.
On the other hand, one guy saved an old couple whose car got washed off a road next to a flooded gator farm.
Posted by: lauraw at August 31, 2005 10:27 AM (0+tK7)
Posted by: Dman at August 31, 2005 10:32 AM (m2CN7)
11:33 A.M. - Director Walter Maestri: We have no food or water for the evacuees. Says emergency workers have seized the food and water and drinks from Sam's Club, Wal-Mart and other groceries for evacuees, but he said that is all gone.
Posted by: Tyrtle at August 31, 2005 10:34 AM (59x1v)
A nice lesson in what inevitably grows out of a culture of victimhood. How many times has this person's attitude been reenforced by politicians, lawyers, leftist professors, and the media?
See, those store owners aren't hard working people who struggle to meet payroll and pay taxes. Theyt aren't even real people. Those store owners are SOCIETY, man. And society owes anyone who makes a claim of victimhood whatever he demands. Because if you fail in life, it MUST be someone else's fault.
Posted by: The Warden at August 31, 2005 10:36 AM (je9fY)
This is exactly the point I was trying to make on the earlier thread. The liberal goal is not progress and achievement, but equality regardless of merit. And of course the reason we don't have equality is the greed and prejudice of THE MAN. Taking things from THE MAN is just social activism.
Posted by: geoff at August 31, 2005 10:54 AM (J0ZE/)
To be fair, this is the same logic that people will use when they inflate their claims to the insurance company. Just substitute 'paid premiums' and 'insurance company' for oppressed and society.
Posted by: Dman at August 31, 2005 11:01 AM (m2CN7)
As a young teenager in proudly peaceable Canada during the romantic 1960s, I was a true believer in Bakunin’s anarchism. I laughed off my parents’ argument that if the government ever laid down its arms all hell would break loose. Our competing predictions were put to the test at 8:00 A.M. on October 17, 1969, when the Montreal police went on strike. By 11:20 A.M. the first bank was robbed. By noon most downtown stores had closed because of looting. Within a few more hours, taxi drivers burned down the garage of a limousine service that competed with them for airport customers, a rooftop sniper killed a provincial police officer, rioters broke into several hotels and restaurants, and a doctor slew a burglar in his suburban home. By the end of the day, six banks had been robbed, a hundred shops had been looted, twelve fires had been set, forty carloads of storefront glass had been broken, and three million dollars in property damage had been inflicted, before city authorities had to call in the army and, of course, the Mounties to restore order.
And those were Canadians, people. Canadians!
Posted by: Ray Midge at August 31, 2005 11:02 AM (kUNrb)
In fact, by my calculations, equitable ethnic representation is down across the boards. Where are the Native American looters? The Pacific Islander looters?
I think it is in the interests of all citizens that we have looters that "look like America." The federal government should get right on this immediately.
Dave at Garfield Ridge
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at August 31, 2005 11:05 AM (y1hCN)
Meanwhile, dead bodies float by while these jackasses celebrate by riding their new bikes down the aisles of devastated stores.
Some people are good. Some people are evil. The rest are children, who are ruled by their emotions and desires. The fear of prosecution has given over to the desire for unearned wealth. Just remember: These people live next to you too. They're in the malls, on the roads, driving past your kids on their way to school. And they're only restrained by a fear of 'getting in trouble'. Makes you remember why you have your gun license, eh? How'd you like to rely on the maturity and mercy of strangers in an unexpected disaster like this one? Sure must be nice to be surrounded by animals while you're trying to protect your wife and kids. I pray for the tourists who had no way to get out, and are trapped in the anarchy, as well as the elderly and weak, who look more and more like prey every day.
Especially the women, I am sure.
Posted by: ChrisF at August 31, 2005 11:07 AM (ExiUw)
Posted by: Lipstick at August 31, 2005 11:17 AM (QX681)
I did a trade show there once where, with security guards in each room, we lost about $30,000 out of $2 million worth of hardware.
It's not a racial thing, it's a Nawlins thing.
Posted by: cirby at August 31, 2005 11:37 AM (fY33n)
We need to divert some rescue efforts so we can airlift in some representatives of other groups and allow them some time on the ground to loot their share.
Only then can America make any claim to social justice.
Posted by: epobirs at August 31, 2005 12:43 PM (51CH/)
Posted by: paul at August 31, 2005 01:30 PM (otCzG)
Posted by: The Apologist at August 31, 2005 01:54 PM (z7FFB)
Posted by: Tony at August 31, 2005 01:57 PM (dYcZw)
The thing that makes me feel as if my Cheerios have been pee'd upon is that I have yet to hear of any relief efforts being offered from our "friends" throughout the world. Lord knows we've put it out there for any of them time and time again.
Look, I'm as annoyed as the next guy that there isn't a German carrier battle group headed our way ready to drop pretzels and beer on New Orleans, but complaining about it just seems whiney to me. Cut it out.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 31, 2005 03:35 PM (FzhYM)
Posted by: Zensunni Wanderer at August 31, 2005 08:29 PM (S+q83)
How many buildings will pass as structurally sound after having their lower floors submerged for a substantial period? How can we justify the immense sums needed to rebuild New Orleans when there remains no solution for preventing the same thing from happening again? Engineers have been studying the problem for decades with no answers for the likes of Katrina.
Posted by: epobirs at August 31, 2005 10:58 PM (51CH/)
With the sheetrock down for drying out, the wiring job is simple unless the code people want the place brought up to 1999/2002/2005 level electric code - that will require some extra drilling and additional circuits put in.
Flooring warpage on plank floors might be a problem, might not - depends on the quality of the original flooring. Quarter-sawn planks tend not to warp(and wear like iron, even softwoods), but quarter-sawn wood was more expensive. Cypress, which there is a lot of in NOLA area, is pretty durable and rot resistant.
Ceramik tile on slab: just clean it up.
Laminates like Pergo:- total loss, they'll swell/warp.
Carpet: total loss.
Plywood over joists? If it was interior grade ply, it is going to delaminate - the glues aren't waterproof on interior grade. If they used exterior, just dry it out good and add some extra nails. I've seen wherea a dog piss soaked rug never allowed proper drying and completely rusted the nails holding ply to joists
[not my dog, it happened in an apt building I used to own]
Posted by: Tony at August 31, 2005 11:51 PM (dYcZw)
Seriously - this is degrading and damaging my self-esteem.
Posted by: Tony at August 31, 2005 11:53 PM (dYcZw)
You worried about your dog's reputation or your own?
Yo Ace - I feel like a moron having to misspell the word C.E.R.A.M.I.C to get it by the filter. Seriously - this is degrading and damaging my self-esteem.
I hear ya , Tony. I don't remember the filters being this whacko until after the melt down.
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Posted by: Jamaal Shableek at September 02, 2005 07:38 AM (3OX7n)
It got so bad in New Orleans because it was filled with blacks with guns. Gulfport did not because it is filled with whites with guns.
America (minus) Whites = Africa.
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