1 Sure we can go to clean energy by building a fuck ton of nuclear power plants.  Oh wait, that's not "clean" in the sense he's talking about.  He wants us to pay taxes to help stop global warming worldwide even when our efforts would be negated by the Chinese and Indians.

2 He and T-Bone Pickens want our tax dollars to subsidize the ridiculous profits they will reap from their private equity funds investing in clean, renewable dollars...er technology.

3 He's a big douche because just today the American Physical Society and 1000 scientists declared that Global Warming was'nt - and he didn't return to politics because he'd already gotten into TeleEvangelism...

4

OK, let's think this thing through.

Wind doesn't blow all the time.

Sun doesn't shine all the time.

It may not be blowing or sunny at the same time.

There is no method in the system to store energy.

If it's deadly calm at night, and it's 85 degrees out, and everyone wants to surf the net and watch TV, where is the power going to come from to run the AC, and the computer and the TV?

 

Any Solar and Wind system would have to have a backup system to provide energy when the sun ain't shining and the wind ain't blowing.  And this system would have to be able to cover nearly 100% of possible demand.  And, this system would have to be up and running all the time, because you just can't flip a switch and have a reactor or a coal fired power plant come alive.

 

Now, I'm all for using spinning wind turbines and solar panels, but they aren't going to replace current power generation, no matter what the Goracle has to say.

5 Why can't all leftists make their retarded socialist policy ideas as clear as the this jamoke?

6 Typical Bowel Belching Limousine Liberal.  He's never met a tax he didn't like.  A steaming pile of excretion that must be ignored.

7 "He observed that the environmental, fiscal, and national-security dangers facing the country would be eliminated by a conversion to clean energy."

Shit this clean energy sure do seem like a miracle cure to all that ails. I'm sure it could do wonders on the difficult stains in my shower. Probably add an inch to my dick and give me back the, uh -  enthusiasm, I had when I was 18. I got to get me some of this here clean energy.

8 "Even those who reap the profits of the carbon age have to recognise the inevitability of its demise," Gore said, repeating former Saudi oil minister Sheikh Yamani's famous quip: "The Stone Age didn't end because of a shortage of stones."

When exactly did we stop using stones? It's call the Stone Age because that's all that was used. Did Bronze go away with the Bronze Age?
I doubt it judging by the huge pair of bronze balls this ass has if he thinks this is going to fly. He doesn't though. He knows the jig is up.
That pictures they used shows him with the same face he had after conceding to GWB. Defeat, get used to it Al.

9 I did the math (ok I didn't, but go with me here) and that 28,000 sf home he has in Tennessee would cost a metric shitload of money to heat and cool using only clean energy. Better get started on planting a bunch of fuckin' trees pretty quickly, Al. Carbon credits and all that shit. Whoever called the bitch a televangelist hit the nail on the head.

10

"The Stone Age didn't end because of a shortage of stones."

What a dumbfuck! The stone age gave way to better technology that was in FUCKING EXISTENCE!!!

Man didn't quit using stone tools to sit there with our collective thumbs in our asses because some asshat promised us something better was just over the horizon.

 

 

Sorry to go all spurwing there for a sec.

11 Gah. Sockpuppet.

12 I heard someone speculate that Gore could be Osamabama's VP choice.  The Messiah and the Prophet on the same ticket.  Can the Apocalypse be far behind?!

13 Glenn Reynolds hit the nail on the head when he wrote: "I'll believe there's a crisis when the people who are telling me there's a crisis start behaving as if there's a crisis."

So, when Al sells his house, and his cars, and the private jet, then I'll take him seriously. Not until then.

14 Trillion?  Not nearly enough to pull it off solely using green-approved alternatives.  The bigger problem, no matter how much the true cost, is how we will pay for it while simultaneously tanking the economy (and the associated tax "revenue" which will no doubt be needed to subsidize this jackassery).  But I'm really not worried about this one.  It is so absurd that it will never get off the ground no matter how much hope and change Gore and friends can muster.

And again, we see another "moonshot" analogy.  I wish pols would stop using that every time they want to implement some economy changing scheme that requires assloads of public funds.

15 What a putz.

16

What is Al Gore's real point in being the front man for Global Warming and Carbon Offsets?

It's true that solar hot water, solar heating and cooling and solar electricity can greatly reduce the energy bills of an average American home, but it only works if that particular American home has the space to install about 10 square meters of solar cells and collectors (very preferably each with trackers), plus several large lead acid batteries.

If you live in a rural area, or suburban area with large tracts and no trees to get in the way, and have a spare $20,000, then such a system probably makes sense; it might pay for itself in 3-5 years (but it also might take 10 or more).

But if you live, like most people, in an urban area, the payback will likely be very much longer, if at all. For urban areas, the "solar" solution starts looking like a farm or solar cels, reflectors/concentrators, etc.  This is a power company issue.

So, what's Al Gore's point

In the larger senes, what is Al Gore's motivation? 

His ideas are dubiously workable for most Americans (even excluding the global warming question), and he himself seems to be exempt.

Is Al heavily invested in various solar energy companies?  Where, exactly,will the carbon tax money be spent (or has he said)?  Is he planning on making another run at the Presidency (2012/2016)? Does he simply require national/international attention?

17 What's this "payroll tax" he's talking about? Does he mean the income tax? The only other money the government takes from employers is their contribution to the Old Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance system, and that goes directly into the Lockbox. (Remember the Lockbox?)

18 Algore is trolling for an Econazi hot beef injection.

19 I hate to launch a scandal here, but I strongly suspect you have been duped.  That image has in fact NOT been photoshopped!!!!

20

“The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.

"Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. (emphasis added)"

Dwight D. Eisenhower, farewell speech -- the part no one ever remembers or quotes!
David

21 The irony is strong in that one.

The space race was largely the result of the US and the Soviets fighting the Cold War. The US had to challenge the Soviets on every front, physical or ideological. We had to get our act together then because we couldn't afford the expansion of international socialism in any arena.

Now Herr Koctor Gore appropriates that great effort for his expansion of international governance and regulation.

If ever a Court of Rhetoric and Reason comes into being, may Gore be the first tried and convicted of the Misuse of a Metaphor.

22 A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon, you're talking about real money.

23 Lets let California lead the way.  Once they've switched over to electric cars I'll believe the technology is mature.  Until then, drill and refine me some damn oil.

And with the current grid situation in California and the NIMBY situation blocking any new electric supply; I suspect I'll have a good chance of dying of old age long before any changeover occurs.

I don't care what Schwarzenegger says, he doesn't have a rat's ass chance of getting electric cars to be more than a novelty in CA with the current situation.  If he somehow magically did switch everyone to electric cars the grid would have a lifespan you could only measure with a stopwatch, and the coming blackouts would be near permanent from lack of supply.

Of course, to be fair, they wouldn't be allowed to import electricity from coal-plants in Nevada and Arizona and would need to produce their own electricity for this benchmark to be properly met.

24 Uh Ramsey, you might want to consider this new fangled thing that we like to call a 'hyperlink'.

25

I see that the Goracle is still going after the mythical Manbearpig.

26 Manbearpig is real! I am totally serial!

27

"He shied away from specifics during the speech,"

Yeah, well, NO FUCKING SHIT.

He never gets fucking specifc, this whole GW shit is NOT specific.

28 He and T-Bone Pickens want our tax dollars to subsidize the ridiculous profits they will reap from their private equity funds investing in clean, renewable dollars...er technology. 

I'm already sick of the "Pickens Plan" bullshit.  It's transparent fascism in the classical sense of the word, using government force to get rich(er).

29 Al Gore knows he's full of shit.  He also knows he is getting richer everyday because of his AGW bullshit.

He is not crazy and he is not stupid.  He is greedy and evil.

30

What does he think EXACTLY is clean energy?

But he "shies away from specifics" so that he doesn't get a chance to look like a fucking moron.

31

".... not mentioning the billion dollar pricetag...."

Also not mentioned- the shitboat of cash he stands to make if this ludicrous nonsense ever comes to pass.

32

OK...to do this one needs specifics.  LOTS of them.  A spiral notebook or two kajillion should do it.  Otherwise it's a "gee wouldn't it be nice..." load of bullshit.

Not unlike the policy prescriptions of a certain current presidential nominee.

33

#24

In contrast, the deepest any Western oil company has drilled is around 4.5 km.

If my conversions are right, and they are, 4.5 km is approximately 2.7 miles which is approximately 14,000 feet. There are better than 500 wells within a radius of 25 miles of Fort Stockton, TX that are all over 20,000 feet. I wonder how much of the rest of this article is bullshit.

34

For someone with this big ass credential as being so smart and technical and technological and intelligent, he can't seem to figure a whole lot out except how to be a lying gasbag and maybe go to the fucking Apple store to pick out an overpriced chic laptop to do stuff on, like his important stuff, like speeches and listening to music.

His status as a technical guru is a load of Gore-sized bullshit.

35

 I wonder how much of the rest of this article is bullshit.

I'd say nearly all of it. It's the geological version of Lysenkoism.

36 I just shopped electric services here in Texas and found that power supplied by 100% wind power was .04 cents higher per Kwh than that evil carbon fuel.  Thats about 50.00 more a month for me. Good luck with that Al.

37 Bullshit, he never said anything like that, and you can't fool me by claiming some made up "newspaper" wrote it up.

Admit it - you got this from The Onion, right?  Because nobody, not even a Democrat VP, could be so stupid.

38

There is no God but Gaia, and Al Gore is her Prophet.

39 In related news, documented proof that Robert Redford is brain-damaged.

Or he's a self-important windbag. Take your pick.

40 On the "moonshot analogy", there was actually a moon waiting for us when we got there.

41 The World Can Be Saved if America will only destroy itself! Come on, peoples, make the sacrifice! Turn the U.S. into a Third World country and all Third World countries shall rise to the level of ... Third World countries.

42  I wonder how much of the rest of this article is bullshit.

Now, be fair.  I'm sure this is totally real and above board.  And they can have trillions of barrels of cheap oil soon, but they need investors to get in on the ground floor of this new and exciting proposition.

I'd help, but I spent all my investment money on cold fusion research...

43 Only fucking idiot liberals would swoon at the proclamation of an asshole who uses ten times the energy of the usual family household.

44

It's a pleasure to be on a blog where you can say "fucking idiot" and both mean it and have to stand.

It refers to a Democrat, of course.

 

:-)

45

Have IT stand.

Sorry. Too much champagne.

Or maybe not enough.

 

 

46 "What a stupid fucking douche."  C'mon.  That's an insult to stupid fucking douches all over the world.  (Looking sideways at Robert Reford.)

47 As for stupid fucking douche Redford's Poetry Slam Cure for Glowball Worming, I think that if we got all the stupid fucking douches who do slam poetry in one big mess of a poetry fest we could eliminate a whole buncha CO2 by just nuking the place.

48

Twenty times, drjohn, but who's counting. Not Al.

49 "Is Al heavily invested in various solar energy companies? "

Em... you're kidding about not knowing his motivation, right?

I think where he's planning to make his main dough is as a benevolent broker of carbon credits- if memory serves, he sits on the board of at least one if not more than company specializing in same, and the corporate headquarters are in someplace like Tahiti or Pitcairn Island or somesuch.

Then there's the whole bit where he gets scads of eejit greenie dollars for showing up and belching out his anti-science screed at various hug-ins around the world.

So yeah, the little wooden boy who would be president has gone on to full time horseshit slinging and is making quite a living.

50 oops- "more if not more than ONE company specializing...."  danged words and stuff.

51 Can someone please tell me what Gore actually said in this speech he gave?

One set of reports says that he pushed for clean coal in addition to a whole bunch of the usual crunchy stuff - solar, wind, and geothermal.

The NYT makes no mention of clean coal.

There's a pretty interesting and serious disconnect depending on which is to be believed.

If Gore mentioned clean coal, then he sort of realizes that we can't completely wean off fossil fuels, and has made a break towards a more rational energy policy. It would also mean that the NYT is misstating what Gore said.

If Gore didn't mention clean coal, then he's consistent - consistently wrong, but all the other media outlets that included the clean coal bit have to explain how that got in there, and why.

52 There was an election for global climate manager and Gore won?  Nobody told me.  I didn't vote.  I want a recount.

53

What a man!

54 I have the solution to our energy needs.

How about we round up all of the illegal aliens and put them in giant hamster wheels to generate electricity.  We could also do this for all of the chronically unemployed people we have in this country.

I'm totally serial...

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