1 I watched Soylent Green with Charlton Heston last night. This movie was made around 1973 and as they mention "global warming".  What if the idea for global warming came from a movie and because of the money to be made off tax payer, it grew to what it is today.

2 FDR per Amity Shlaes in The Forgotten Man, worsened the Depression but was re-elected for a third term in 1940. Never underestimate the  power of the Dark Side of Big Government and Big Media. The blame for the economic depression from Global Warming will be laid on Capitalism.  The "light" Fascism of the Democratic and Labor Parties requires the illusion of angst and struggle in order to perpetuate itself.  In the end , it's all about smoke, mirrors, zero-sum game arguments and believing the electorate to be a bunch of  malleable suckers.

3

Shunha - not really - the same people uluating about TEOTWAWKI from warming were predicting a new ice age, global famine killing off most of humanity, "the population bomb", that we would have run out of oil and precious metals by now, and any of dozens of other catastrophes that failed to happen.

The paradox is that liberals and other scientifically illterate people pushing this crap actually have an incredibly tiny view of the world wherein they think that the planet has an ideal static state that conforms to an infantile fantasy of a pre-Columbian Eden that never existed, and any deviation from that fantasy is a) TEOTWAWKI, b) caused by man, and c) must be avoided at all costs.

In short, the "progressives" fear change, no matter how natural, or insignificant. We'll ignore the overwhelming hubris of man being capable of "destroying" the planet but it would have been hilarious seeing these guys were they back in the Cambrian when the CO2 level was 7000 ppm - not the measly 380 or so it is now - screaming how we are all going to die. 

 

 

 

4 What would be really funny is if all these AGW-supporting ACLU types woke up and realized they've been advocating for state establishment of the religion of global warming all this time.

The cognitive dissonance required to be a liberal to begin with is so strong, though, that I'm sure they'll just move on to the next big thing without missing a beat.

5

"If the reasons later turn out to be bogus, the electorate is not going to re-elect a Labor government for a long time"

If this statement were true then the Dems would have been voted out of office in every major city in America.Sadly,thats not the case.

6 Hmmmm.

With higher fuel prices we're going to wish there was some global warming come next winter.

7

On the other site, someone (sorry) made the salient comment that the left won't suffer from their actions because the MSM will simple go on to the next Great Scare.- Did ya see the story about the big Bee wreck in Jersey? I thought they were all dead.

Have you seen a frog lately? I thought they were all dead.

8

For anyone interested, the 2007 BBC documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle can be viewed online here.

9 I watched Soylent Green with Charlton Heston last night.

Propped up on the sofa was he? Any good conversation?

10

9 I watched Soylent Green with Charlton Heston last night.

Did he say anything about "cold, dead hands?"

 

I'm going to Hell.

11

12 Ok, I wanted to say something vile, but I just said nothing until I could compose myself.

Leave Chuck alone.

13 What else can you say?  This is the greatest hoax EVER.

14 Uh, oh.  Another AGW Denier^TM.  Line up the Inquisitors to draw and quarter the heretic.

15

I think the AGW crowd is more along the lines of Abigail Williams in The Crucible. It's that easy to point over your enemies shoulder and shriek "CARBON FOOTPRINT!!1eleven!!".

16 Historically, the means to absolute control over a population has been through food or water. That is not enough for Al Gore and his power-crazed fellows and minions - all they ask is that you get his permission to use fire.

That is indeed what they demand, that they be the ones to say whether you may use fire.

17 Fire good!

18

Reading this while Algore lies through his lying teeth on Meet the Press. He's ok with $4 gas because it is going to force 'us' (me and you but not him) to become greener. He said the 9 out the last 10 warmest years meme. CHECK! Malaria/tropical diseases ARE GOING TO increase (i.e. they haven't been increasing). CHECK!

Who will rid us of this thick headed priest?

I had a friend that worked in a "special people place" as an orderly and he said that they used to put all of the people that thought they were magical or Jesus at the same table and watch the inevitable miracle pissing contest. I was just thinking it would be cool if we could do the same thing with the Obamassiah and the Goracle.  

19

And the North Pole ice pack hasn't melted this summer as MSM predicted:

http://tinyurl.com/6mry5d

 

20 This is elitism run amok.  AGW is a fake.  Calling carbon dioxide a deadly pollutant is the lever they need to pry open the door to complete control of everything.

Every time I hear about this AGW shit I feel like burning a stack of tires.

21 More and more evidence surfaces about the fallacy of global warming.

22 liberals and other scientifically illterate people pushing this crap actually have an incredibly tiny view of the world wherein they think that the planet has an ideal static state that conforms to an infantile fantasy of a pre-Columbian Eden that never existed

I think it boils down to liberals, deep down, hating people in general. We are all destructive knuckle dragging disappointments to them (which makes them endlessly noble by comparison) and the world is better off without us. They're suckers to any line of crap that confirms that point of view.

23 I do note and like the inertia in actually implementing Gore's plans.  Perhaps common sense and economic reality are more powerful than AGW advocates.


































   

24 Sorry about that.  No clue how that happened. 

25 I despair.

26 HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED MY INITIALS ARE AGW

27 At this time I think the evidence is completely irrelevant, they have the momentum and politicians feel like they have to go along with it no matter how much they realize it's false. For the next few years, we're just going to have to eat it and watch them destroy the economy.

When it turns out to be a total hoax, who will pay the price? It won't be the people responsible, you can bank on that.

28

And more about the global warming that hasn't happened for the past 10 years from another Aussie source:

http://tinyurl.com/5a5hs9

[Andrew Bolt's blog via Tim Blair's blog.]

29 For anyone interested, the 2007 BBC documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle can be viewed online here.

It's not a 'BBC documentary'. The BBC would never air such a thing (because it disproves their biggest tool to stick it to The Great Satan, America) let alone produce it.

30 algore being the divinity school dropout that he is, had to invent a religion he could understand and preach. Global warming is that religion. It is very simple; man's sins make temperatures go up and bad things happen.

31 When it comes to light that the carbon scare was known to be bogus in 2008, the ALP is going to be regarded as criminally negligent or ideologically stupid for not having seen through it

I disagree, the MSM always has and always will just move on to the next imaginary crisis.  Aside from readers of blogs like this one, who regards the fearmongers of the 70's ice age scare as negligent or stupid?

32

"The evidence was not conclusive, but why wait until we were certain when it appeared we needed to act quickly?"

A reasonable attitude. If a large meteor appeared to be heading towards Earth, it would be foolish not to take action. But liberals, being the opportunists that they are, refuse to admit that they might be wrong because they know that this is the chance they've been waiting for to scare the hell out of everyone and advance their agenda. What's really infuriating is that anyone who dares to say otherwise is branded a lunatic and summarily trashed in the media. I caught Joe Bastardi of Accuweather.com on The Dennis Miller Show the other day calling bullshit on the whole concept of man made global warming. Thank God there are people in the know who are willing to confront the alarmists who are trying to defraud us out of our way of life. Fucking dickheads. I fucking hate liberals.

33

People, we need to focus on the real problem with this issue: There is no such thing as a "+9" cloak of invisibility.  Or so I've been told.  Ask Ace, he'll tell you.

So the real hoax here is that Purple Avenger is passing himself off as some kind of Dungeon Master.  Poseur!

34 "the temperature rises occurred on average 800 years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon."

This is fatal to the AGW theory.

If you tried to argue that an effect occurred before its "cause," in any science or engineering classroom, in any scientific paper, or at any conference, you would be met with laughter.

... unless you were among the warmerists.

35 I'm looking back on the origins of the hoax now, wondering how the Watermelons managed to hang all their hopes on banning plant food.

Seriously, how did CO2 become the bogeyman? It almost looks like it was an accident - how could it have been on purpose?

CO2 is harmless to (most) animals at concentrations many times higher than current.

CO2 is helpful to (most) plants at concentrations many times higher than current - and more plants absorb more CO2...

CO2 may or may not be at or above its saturation point WRT greenhouse effect (meaning adding more CO2 has a trivial or even no effect), but in either case it's a small percentage of GHG in terms of effect.

As the average temp changes, CO2 tends to rise because warmer water can hold less CO2 - CO2 levels tend to rise after warming, prehistorically.


I mean, wasn't there something scarier to hang their hat on?

The really disturbing thing is the number of people who apparently can't read and don't own calculators who buy into this crap.

36

Next time you meet a moonbat going into conniptions about CO2 and AGW and all,

Ask 'em about carbonated drinks.

Then sit back with a nice cold Coke and be entertained.

!

37 If the ice pack does melt this year, for the first time in written history it will occur in September. Not July As far as the world not getting any warmer you perhaps should go to the NOAA website and check that out because it IS still getting warmer than the 120 year historical average in fact land and sea temps combined last spring were at the 7th highest ever recorded out of 128 years. The cult of denial is tough to breaK YOU GUYS ARE LIKE TH ETROOFERS

38 Who is this guy Evans ? Why should anyone believe him? Perhaps you should take a look at what our government has to say about global climate change, unless like the 9/11 deniers you believe that there is a MASSIVE COVERUP?CONSPIRACY one so large that only a small elite group has been able to see through it. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/globalwarming/ar4-fig-3-6.gif

39 I saw that asshole gore on TV today. I was ready to blow after about three sentences: First off, he said the old bit about how drilling will take 10-15 years to see results, then it was the bit about not bringing down the price of oil at all. My hunch is that it's a new record: two lies by a politician in less than 30 seconds. Of course, my one liberal friend just reminded me the other day that "global warming is a fact. Get used to it". And he's always reminding me that he's the rational one.

40

There's a Hindu Times article floating around about Russian and Indian resistence to the offical global "warming" position.

This is an interesting development.  China and India have easily the highest carbon emission growth rates.  Russia has the most undeveloped oil.  These three countries have massive capitalistic engines, and they are not about to kill themselves to save a few polar bears.

So we have roughly one-third of the world's population, in societies w/tightly controlled, govt-supervised media.  And they are fighting Al Gore tooth and nail.

Tusher's buds could be our ace in the hole.

If this winter is as bad as last, we should see some serious cracks in the global "warming" meme.

And, BTW, Antarctica is getting BLASTED by winter.  They June temps were over 1.5 degrees C LOWER than average.  So the global cooldown is still progressing.

Science is not something you can mold and shape and twist.  It always comes back to the data.

41 You know, they're just going to declare efforts to cut emissions a success and take credit for the latest trend of cooling, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense.  The problem is, enough people will believe it.

42

This is how we could end up killing global "warming".  We need somebody to sue the shit out of the govt or the left, for wasting our tax dollars or hurting our economy.

Al Gore lost a court battle in Britian.  Greenpeace will lose a court battle in Spain.  The global "warmers" lost a couple of small court battles over here.

What we need is a high-profile court battle here in the states.  Maybe a local Chamber of Commerce could sue The Weather Channel?  Whatever.

43
First of all, David Evans has the wrong kind of degree to even be credible on Anthopogenic Climate Change. Also he's from Australia and is decended from criminals so you just can't trust him.

B. So what if there's no evidence of Anthropogenetic Climate Change or even counter evidence. We just can't take the chance that New York City could be under 20 feet of water soon. We just can't.

Trismegistus, the effort to combat Arthroscopic Aclimactic Chengana will create litereally thousands of new jobs to replace the few jobs lost when possession of any petroleum product (except Vaseline) is made a felony and SUV drivers go to reeducation camps to overcome their hatred of Mother Gaia.

This is an entirely logical and practical plan.

44 You know, they're just going to declare efforts to cut emissions a success and take credit for the latest trend of cooling, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Yep. At least it's a slight improvement over their normal modus operandi, which is to -create- a problem, and then take credit for "fixing" that exact same problem by bringing the catastrophic effects of their policies down to only half as bad as they were before they started their meddling.  This time, at least, they're not actually creating the problem they're bitching about, they're just making it up.  They'll create a whole lot of other (economic) problems in the process of "fixing" global warming, of course, but raping the economy for their own ends, that one's never gonna go out of style for the "progressives".

Qwinn

45 Maybe a local Chamber of Commerce could sue The Weather Channel?

Last I heard, the founder of the Weather Channel announced vocally and loudly that AGW was a load of crap. It was hilarious how fast liberals rushed to decry him, of all people, a meterologist for several decades and the founder of the weather channel, as incompetent and unqualified to discuss climate change. I've given up trying to talk to these people. I can't bring myself to even pretend they're operating in good faith anymore. They're brazenly bullshitting everyone, and they know it, and when we try to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're just dumb and not evil, they just laugh at us for it.

Qwinn

46

Tusher's buds could be our ace in the hole.

Maybe it's just my hangover, but this is a very disturbing sentence.

Gore is on MTP right now getting a tongue bath from Brokaw.  Brokaw opened the segment by saying that there is a growing concensus about GW but there is also a growing debate about the best way to address it.

No, Tom, that is not the debate.  The debate is far more fundamental.  The question is what is causing our temperature to fluctuate, man or the same damn things that have caused it to fluctuate since the begining of time, the sun and it's ever changing heat output and the affect it has on Earth.  Just once, I would like to see someone start off one of these interviews by asking Gore what has caused the measured temperature on other planets in our solar system to mirror the changing temperatures on our planet. 

Gore is just a tool of Big Wind!

47 Jackstraw-

Was just watching MTP too-
had to turn that lllllooney, llllllugubrious, llllllamebrained crap off before I llllllllllost my lllllllllleft brained capabilities.

At any rate- gore and brokaw's little two person commedia del' arte is all the reason I need to vote for McCain.

If dumbo the idiot wins, this fat tub of insane goo will most probably be appointed to a cabinet position, allowing him to trash my civilization in order to augment his donut fund.

That shit just cain't happen.

48

2Brixshy-

You left too soon.  Brokaw brought on David Gregory and Chuck Todd after Gore.  Todd relayed that Gore had provided McCain with a copy of his speech before he gave it and McCain had kind words for Gore after the speech.  They both agreed that both McCain and Obama would have CC high on their agendas after taking office with a very compliant Democrat ruled Congress, a distinction without a difference.

On less the grassroots rises on this issue as it did on illegal immigration, we are boned.

49

On less? 

I have got to stop with the absinthe.

50

If the reasons later turn out to be bogus, the electorate is not going to re-elect a Labor government for a long time. When it comes to light that the carbon scare was known to be bogus in 2008, the ALP is going to be regarded as criminally negligent or ideologically stupid for not having seen through it. And if the Liberals support the general thrust of their actions, they will be seen likewise...

I really, really don't think so.

Never worked that way with anything else, did it? Was there any egg to be found with Y2K, global cooling, population explosion, silent spring, ozone depletion, etc. etc...?

If anybody can be bothered to remember it at all, they'll point to all the damage they did and claim 'see? We fixed it'.

51 what is causing our temperature to fluctuate, man or the same damn things that have caused it to fluctuate since the begining of time

This is what kills me about the left. Do they really believe the temperature has never gone up before?
Or are they pretending that in the last 100 years the temps have never risen this quickly?
Or what?

You can never get answers to such basic questions from these people...

52 I have got to stop with the absinthe.

Or at least share with the class.  It's a religion, pure and simple.  No facts, no reality, nothing is going to change The True Believers' minds.

What really pisses me off is that I'm an old school conservationist.  I am concerned about pollution and habitat loss and forest management and the like.  But it's become impossible to have a rational conversation about these issues.  Either you buy the Green position, all the way, or you are a denier.  It's leading me to want to say fuck it, pave over everything.  That's not exactly a good thing. 

53 their normal modus operandi, which is to -create- a problem, and then take credit for "fixing" that exact same problem by bringing the catastrophic effects of their policies down to only half as bad as they were before they started their meddling and creating new catastrophies to "fix" in an endless loop of destructive government expansion.

Fixed that for ya.

54 The Y2K thing was very real.  Its just that business spent the 5 years prior reworking their code and upgrading hardware in earnest to minimize the impact.  To a large degree the effort was a stunning success in that it passed mostly uneventfully.  As recently as a couple of months ago I have experienced killer Y2K bugs on web pages managed by the Federal Office of Personnel Management though, so the work isn't complete yet.

55

US Senate report on recent developments showing AGW theory is rapidly falling apart.

It's meaty, real meaty, read it all (I'm surprised this link isn't everywhere - got it from Tim Blair):

http://tinyurl.com/6ph9eb

56

And "the first time in recorded history" actually meaning "since the 1950s":

http://tinyurl.com/5b9kto

57 Who is this guy Evans ? Why should anyone believe him?

It may be difficult you to understand this, but it doesn't matter who he is. Let's assume he is the world's most prolific liar. How does that change the facts and data or his elucidation of them? Either the satellite data is shows the Earth is warming or it doesn't.

It doesn't change the data anymore than it changes the fact that you are a tiresome jackass. And no, it doesn't require a conspiracy or cover up for a lot of people to lose themselves to folly, greed, or outright stupidity. Nor does it require a "small elite group" to point that out.

Your reading assignment, asshole:
Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

58 Global warming nuts are also the same nuts that want defeat for us in Iraq.

...just an observation...

59 Everything that Purple Avenger just said is bullshit...

60 Yep, ToraBora, there is also a lot of cross pollination between the Troofers(TM) and Warmers, particularly, it seems, amongst the "entertainment" crowd.

61

In case you didn't notice, John Ryan was typing in ALL CAPS, so whatever he says must obviously be true.  After all, it's on the Internet.

62 Mr. Ryan hasn't noticed the very odd problem of the NOAA claiming numbers that agree with nobody else.

63 The cult of denial is tough to breaK YOU GUYS ARE LIKE TH ETROOFERS

yeah, John,  we're a cult. Skeptics remain to be convinced. Denial is what you go through after blowing a hobo

64 Jackstraw:

"They both agreed that both McCain and Obama would have CC high on their agendas after taking office with a very compliant Democrat ruled Congress..."

Gadzooks, WAF.

65

"In short, the "progressives" fear change, no matter how natural, or insignificant."

 

I'm convinced that the reactionary left is reationary because they're a bunch of stasisist utopians.

 

 

66 I'm remeinded of a verse from the Bible.

"Like a dog returns to its vomit ..."

Um, you DO know that at the vast majority of what Evans is saying in his "report" is utter horseshit, right? Or that the growing consensus as to the nature of climate change isn't a nebulous social-engineering conspiracy, but a result of the data confirming its main thesis? Or that climate-change modelling (post-1996 or so) generally also predicts some periods of cooling in the temperate zones as well as polar ice-melts ... which doesn't help much with the more severe droughts, storms & hurricanes that've come about, in perfect sync with said model ... or that you're merely regurgitating the same nonsense AGAIN from a group whose "Chief Policy Advisor" is none other than the same "Lord" Monckton that you just got done making total asshats of yourselves with a day or two ago?

Yes, you've discovered Teh Trooth ... 99% of climate scientists around the globe are closet Marxists who're in cahoots with the archfiend Al Gore to destroy The Amurrikin Weigh O' Life ... & now the Pentagon's in on it too, the damn cabal of pot-smoking homo-islamo-fascists - since they issued a long-term study that cited climate change as the 21st-Century's #1 threat to global security, as part of their nefarious Crypto-Bolshevik plot.

LOL

As of Friday, I didn't think you could actually out-stupid yourselves on this topic.
I sincerely apologize for misunderestimating you.

67 Jim,

It's not a conspiracy, it's Blair's Law.

68 Please, jim, tell us more!

69

As of Friday, I didn't think you could actually out-stupid yourselves on this topic.

Tell you what, chump.  You, and Elmer Gore Gantry, should put your money where your big flappy mouths are.  You want us to live "green" to save the planet and reduce a non-pollutant gas like CO2?  Lead by fucking example. 

And that doesn't mean driving a Prius and using your own canvas sacks at Whole Foods.  It means giving up the computer you're typing on.  It means not using ANY electricity when you aren't at work (and not just once a year like that lame-ass "Turn Your Lights Off For an Hour" night last spring), and NOT burning candles to compensate.  You don't want to sit in the dark all night?  Go to bed.  It means walking, riding a bike, or taking the bus EVERYWHERE.   It means living in an 800 square foot apartment for the rest of your natural life, not owning a house that will only have, at the most, maybe 4 people inhabiting twice the space of that 800 square foot apartment.  It means NOT running your A/C in the summer and keeping your heat in the winter just warm enough so you don't get sick.  It means giving up most of the creature comforts that modern technology has provided you, ANYTHING that uses oil as a base of production. 

If most of the greens were living this way, I could at least respect them demonstrating the courage of their convictions, even if I thought they were being completely stupid and short-sighted.  But they aren't--because ultimately, it's not about what they should do to improve the quality of life on this planet, it's telling everybody else what to do.  Why should I, or anyone with any sense or rationality, follow the adomintions of someone who won't lead by example?

70 Um, you DO know that at the vast majority of what Evans is saying in his "report" is utter horseshit, right?

Well let's have it. Where's the falsehoods, the mistakes, the scientific errors. Let's see your case: hit us with your best shot. I mean it's so obvious, you're so confident this should be easy.

right?

71 "Or are they pretending that in the last 100 years the temps have never risen this quickly?"

Yes, they are.

When I realized that, I was truly shocked. If any of these people have read about the Little Ice Age or the Medieval Warm Period, they've blotted out these inconvenient facts. If any of them ever saw temperature data over million-year spans, they've blocked it out.

***
And to a man, they have themselves convinced that it doesn't matter that temperature rises in the ocean occur BEFORE rises in atmospheric C02 (if they've allowed this fact to permeate their consciousness). In other words, the causality problem does not bother them one bit.

I recommend a book: A Primer on Climate and C02. The author presents a lot of very inconvenient information that any moron can verify for himself.

72 29 For anyone interested, the 2007 BBC documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle can be viewed online here.

It's not a 'BBC documentary'...
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at July 20, 2008 07:59 AM (Ll3Hz)   You're right.  It originally aired on UK's Channel 4.  I thought that was BBC, but it isn't.

73 LOL adamthema @ 57: It's a modern day version of  'The Great Tulipomania Swindle' of the 1630's...Just substitute wind turbines for tulips.

74

More fun from Tim Blair:

http://tinyurl.com/5zlv7o

 

75

Whatever the decision - global warming or not - I hope they make up their minds soon.  But in the meantime . . .leave my peking duck alone - will ya?!

 

 Chinese dish could be forced into extinction by an EU ban on the ovens traditionally used to prepare it. . . because the ovens don't  meet safety standards on carbon-monoxide emissions laid down by Brussels

76 Okay, Let me see if I got this right, as my fate with the Obamessiah and his prophet, the Algoracle, the living two by four, depends on it:

1. When  Algore, high priest of the AGW religion, said in his propaganda master piece 'An Inconvenient  LIE  Truth' that the seas would rise twenty feet or more, when the guy from MIT whose work was hijacked as the  movie's basis  and said it was more like twenty inches, the Algore was actually lying.
Unbelievable. I'm saddened and astonished.

2. When people like Sheryl Crow tell me to wipe my bum with one section of TP, while just one of her leftie concerts uses thousands of houses worth of precious electricity, she's being a hypocritical cow? Is it possible? Do I need absolution from Ed Begley, Jr?

3. When they tell me that the glaciers are receding, which they always do, but a couple of centuries are NOT the depth of recorded history, and I fell anti AGW stirrings about that, am I an anti AGW heretic? Can I go to heaven, or at least an Obama rally to breathe rich Menthol Kool smoke?

4. Under the guidance of Obamessiah's spiritual adviser, the Human Parallam Beam, Algoracle, will anyone in the religion of AGW want to talk about the fact that current short-term weather prediction is piss poor for one reason: There is not enough available computer power in the free world to accurately model moisture in the atmosphere of the earth. Water screws the pooch for 'em.
The weatherguessers can't  even do that little stunt well enough to reliably predict whether a storm will form, or might form. Ditto for hurricanes, their paths, areas of future drought, the whole ball of wax. Can't even get tomorrow's weather right, much less two hundred years from now...
Now, that's the Inconvenient Truth.

Does this mean I am damned in the AGW Church of The Lying Propaganda Tool? Looks like it...
Guess I'll just learn to live  with my carbonic sins.
I even wipe my bum with more than one sheet of butt-wipe.
Hope Sheryl Crow doesn't find out how bad I been. Hope she never finds out how much power and resources go into transient things like her cd's and her website. That power could make alot of butt wipe, I'm thinking.

Now I feel bad about my AGW heresy.
I'll go pray to Brangelina for forgiveness of my non UN approved anti AGW thoughts and this comment. I feel dirty.

77 On the other hand, this could be more crap, like population explosions that never arrived, or the endangering of the polar bears when there are three times as many now as there were in 1950, when no one worried about them until hunting season.

Does anyone on the left want to hear t that Alaska is suing the Federal Gubmint because the EPA registry of polar bears was based in part on a friendly leftist judge saying, in public, that AGW 'MIGHT cause them to be endangered' in the distant future? And Alaska wants this preemptive listing removed so they can allow oil drilling in the bear's territory? Oddly enough, everywhere in the Arctic region you could drill for oil IS BEAR TERRITORY...amazing,no?
 Does anyone who believes in the AGW faith want to start the ball rolling by renouncing gas, modern conveniences and jets? How about leaving your gas using cars, your large and energy inefficient mansions for small yurts, to live with nature, like the Mongolians do? Hike to work. Skip your next movie with a message and use your time weaving clothing out of non-harvested hemp gathered from the ground  where it fell naturally. Woody Harrelson could
set the example there. Never seeing another winner like The Cowboy Way or Money Train would definitely lower the pollution coming out of Hollyweird.

Damn, these people make my skin crawl.

78 I predicted that jim would disappear

79

Did someone mention Al Gore and glaciers?

http://tinyurl.com/6h9pzv

80

The Y2K thing was very real.  Its just that business spent the 5 years prior reworking their code and upgrading hardware in earnest to minimize the impact. 

No, no it was not.

You're talking about the Y2K bug that was of mild note back in 1996, when it would provide annoying and potentially costly errors for select businesses and systems unless it was corrected - for which there was ample time. Of no great concern to the populace at large and of minor concern (you only have 4 years left!) to certain business and government sectors.

I'm talking about the Y2K of media fame - the one you had to buy generators and canned goods and $300 patches for Windows ME on a home media pc, and $200 survival kits and a shotgun for, because society would collapse into chaos, long distance communications would go dead, planes were going to fall out of the sky, computers would scream and explode, machines would turn on their masters, and milk and perscription drugs would spoil 100 years before they were even made!

81

LALALALALALA I can't hear YOU LALALALALALAL

82 The libtards don't care they know the American electorate has lost it's frikken mind the government school dumbdown is paying off for them the generic congressional ballot shows the Dhimmi's favored by over ten points that is why the Dhimmi's are proposing a ten to fifty cent per gallon gas tax hike and fighting tooth and nail against any kind of drilling they know they are on track to win the White house and get a filibuster proof majority in the senate.

83 I gotta say I'm just tired of arguments by AGW hysterics that amount to nothing more than "lalalalala I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

84 I'm talking about the Y2K of media fame

Oh.  Well that stuff was just stupid.  What the hell did they think all the prior 5-6 years worth of work at IT shops all over the globe was for?  We were making sure those dire scenarios wouldn't (for the most part) be happening.

Only a small handful of stuff fell through the cracks.  I recall one issue with the gas pumps at Shell stations, and a few other relatively minor glitches.

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There was a relatively significant credit card processing error that hit hard in Asia-Pacific, not quite so bad here.  Lasted a couple of days.  I remember restaurants in Taipei that couldn't take a Visa or MC.

Some ATM goofs too.  Most of it was prevented with a shitload of program research and correction; hell it took us 5 years and 5-10 programmers to clean up our stuff.

86 I'm talking about the Y2K of media fame

New Year's Eve Y2K was totally awesome.  I had always wanted to try cannibalism.

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