1 The GAU-8.  When you only care enough to send depleted uranium, and a shitload of it.  Get some.

2 I was gonna say that seemed like a lot of gun for a fucking motorcycle.

3 Is there a bag limit?

4 A-10 won.

5 considering the volume of fire weighed more than the targets, is all I was thinking, though it probably wasn't depleted uranium

6 That gave me a tingly feeling up my leg...

7 Yea war is really funny.

8 I take it "i hate immigrants" is a troll, no?

9 Warms the cockles of my heart.

10

My old man was in the nam, he has a lot of the funny from war.  Many of the vets I interact with were in war, they found the funny from war.  My best friend was in a war, he found the funny in war.  A guy I was in with was a part of the O'grady rescue, and he thought the whole experience was hilarious.  Surreal, but hilarious.

Humor is how we deal with horror, and it's even more humorous when it is the enemy facing the horror.

Watch the docu on Blackhawk down, "so now that our egress is set up, whats the plan?  Lets run out of here, Oh! Hey great idea, why didn't I think of that 17 hours ago."

You have to survive, and live with the memories, and humor is the best way to do so.

11 Wicked,

 Good point, but the humor you are talking about is experienced during the act, not after the fact. I have never been in war, but my grandpa (who is still alive) served in WW II and my uncle in 'Nam, they never made funnies about any of their experiences. I just do not understand how killing people or destroying things would ever be funny.

12 Scraping crabs off your nuts is not as exciting as watching vids of the murders of human beings, eh dave?

You don't know if those were "Taliban"? Do you dave?

13 I think the lesson to be learned here is,
Don't bring a Honda CB 100 to a A10 fight.

14

Good point, but the humor you are talking about is experienced during the act, not after the fact.

Not at all, it's also after the fact.  You should hear the O'Grady guy tell the story, it takes forever cuz he's laughing at the situation.  There is always humor, it might be a little more rational, rather than the "get through it right now" thing, but it's always there.

15 Didn't really need to watch to know how that one was going to end.  I did, just didn't need to.

16 Go whine somewhere else erg.

17 Joe?  The ROE are very strict now that activity is counter insurgency.  There are probably several minutes of split asset tracking of those targets, while waiting for a weapons platform (apparently an A-10) was on scene.

18 Yep, you just don't need to lead a slow moving target. Slow movers are  a gift. Especially if your pilot is a dumbass and you have a M60 in your paws  and he can't fly a helicopter because of pucker factor. (I won't even begin to discuss my mini gun).

You can kill religious fanatics all day long. The problem is they multiply like flies on a pile of shit.

The war is not over. It has just begun.

I love you GW Bush, you are the cat's meow! I will miss you sir!

19 A plane built around a gun. What's not to love about that?

20 Obviously the Taliban need to up-armor their MoPeds.

21 I just do not understand how killing people or destroying things would ever be funny.

Because they're Taliban fighters on motorcycles whose entire goal in life is to kill the infidels so they can get their 72 virgins. Now they're dead and they didn't even know it was coming. I have no pity for them as human beings and find their death exciting. Sorry, but it's true.

Watch the videos on Liveleak where the soldiers are calling in an airstrike on the home of insurgents and scream and whoot afterwards. Those bastards were trying to kill them. Tough shit.

22 Yea war is really funny.

This is pretty funny:

Dutch troops in Afghanistan calling in an American air strike on the Taliban, speaking in Dutch but cursing in English, and then confirming the success of the strike in English.

I guess they don't have any good swear words in Dutch.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6fc_1226957447

23

It isn't that we make more of them.  It's that the silent ones who have been expecting us to give up without a fight.  Now that we have shown a spine, the enemy has no choice but to show themselves, or look as though they have been defeated.

No enemy has ever been defeated through weakness.

24 Amen Andy, it also looks like "The Hiss."

25 I understand that the Taliban ( i prefer religous extremists) are bad guys. But the good Lord JC would not be happy with us celebrating death and such. It is just wrong. And the premise that we entered this war, specfically Iraq and the way we have totally fucked this war over, strategically is even less funny.

26 Damn!!!  Not the Hiss, the Fucking Rattler.  I always associate "The Rattler" with the sound of treads.

27

Bob?  If Jesus was so opposed to violence and war, why did he give the keys to heaven to the fucking guy with a goddamn sword in gethsemane?

And the JC rules don't apply to this moron, moron.

28 So therefore there is no God and he is playing a sick joke on us?

29 bob,

Would you like our soldiers to cry or mope after they successfully kill the very people that are trying to kill them? I thoroughly doubt that Christ would care that soldiers (or the people they're defending) are excited that the terrorists won't have an opportunity to kill innocent people.

30 But the good Lord JC would not be happy with us celebrating death and such.

Bob's either a newbie concern troll or a fairly decent parody. 

31 Concerned Conservative Christian bob, are you Axelturfers still on the payroll or is this douchebaggery pro bono?

32 Joe as Wikedpinto points out the ROE for our guys are strict they are not just out there "Air raiding villages" so I for one trust that each gun burst is justice.

I am shown the carnage of the car bombs and IEDs and hell yes my mind needs some balance. And the horror I feel seeing the aftermath of a terrorist blowing himself up in a market is balanced by the humor I see in this footage.

And Bob as it says in the Bible "He who Lives by the Sword Shall Die by the Sword.". So IMHO JC aint crying a tear over these guys.

33 And the premise that we entered this war, specifically Iraq and the way we have totally fucked this war over, strategically is even less funny.

We won the war in Iraq, which is not as funny as it is exhilarating.

34 No i do not expect them to mope around, but making light of War is not my idea of funny, just my two cents.

35

I always fuck this up, "on my return, I shall come with a sword."  I think that is christs somewhat sorta quote, I'll google it, or ask cathy or peel.

36 just my two cents.

I think we owe you some change.

37

ever watch the three stooges?  were they funny?

38 That's not an A-10. The initial flight scene might have been, but the stabilized video with the crosshairs is from either a drone (most likely) or AC-130. The impacts are not projectiles; they're cluster munitions from a missile, very likely one also fired from a drone.

39 The big JC wouldn't approve of the Three Stooges, wicked. Too cruel and violent. Plus, they were Heebs.

40 Okay, this is funny, too:

Suicide bomber tries to attack our troops in Iraq, and they riddle him with an MK19 grenade launcher.  He blows up harmlessly, and the troops celebrate with coarse words and raucous laughter.

 Jesus would approve, I'll bet.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f72c3_4307

41 Say Bob,

Why don't you spend some time identifying that bug up your ass and get back to us.  But not before then.

kthxbai...

42

>I guess they don't have any good swear words in Dutch

 

They do, but it comes out sounding ghey.

43 Foreal though, I think War is the last possible choice. In WWII we sacrificed alot to WIN the war completely. What have we done as a Nation? Spend more, borrow more shop more, etc, etc, etc... that is not a formula to win.

44 Hey Bob I'll assume you have not been in war but have you had anything bad happen to you that was out of your control, was life threatening and that you survived.

Tell me that story without some humor or glee at your cheating death and I will admit I am just an unfeeling evil prick.

45 Hey, "Bob": these are Taliban, which means they're in Afghanistan or "Pock-eee-stahn", not Iraq.

Your Messiah advocates stomping the piss out of both of those places. Didn't Axelrod give you the memo?

46 Possibly film footage from spotter planes / drones.

47 That's "Pock-eee-stawn". Sorry for the misspelling.

Anyone else notice that Obama says "Afghanistan" the regular way? Why does "Pock-eee-stawn" get special treatment?

48 Foreal though, I think War is the last possible choice. In WWII we sacrificed alot to WIN the war completely. What have we done as a Nation? Spend more, borrow more shop more, etc, etc, etc... that is not a formula to win.


Alright, "bob" is a parody. Well, done, sir.

49 Bob..

The men on mopeds made a decision one day to follow Allah.   To their deaths.

The US Army is only accommodating them

50

That's not an A-10. The initial flight scene might have been,

No WAY!,  you can see the tracing dot on one of those cuts, and see that the entire camera moves, and the plane has to adjust it's flight.  The gun is so powerful, that if you empty the magazine, you will put the plane into a stall.  That is one of the things that makes the A-10 so pimp.  The continued steady cam is for photographic purposes, not targeting.

51 don't worry- Off Gone ee stahn is coming

52 Heh...I spent most of my USAF/ANG time in A10 units (comm/computer geek...not a pilot).  My favorite phrase on hog driver philosophy was "when in doubt, walk the rudders with a 3-second burst".

53 In WWII we sacrificed alot to WIN the war completely. What have we done as a Nation? Spend more, borrow more shop more, etc, etc, etc... that is not a formula to win.

We won in Iraq. Completely. It's over. Al Qaeda, the Qods Force, the Ramazan Corps, and the Madhi Army are defeated.

The formula to win was to capture and kill so many of the enemy that he lost his will to fight.

Next, we'll win in Afghanistan.

54

Foreal though, I think War is the last possible choice.

Naive, and truly wrong.

TOTAL war, should be a last choice, thats why we spend so much on 200 and 500 lb bombs who's guidance systems are almost as expensive as the entire defense budget for guyana.  We even commonly use kinnetics, to contain damage, we are using slow movers to take out targets, at a cost much greater than the risk of life, so that we can contain damage.

Limited war, fought for the purposes of victory, is a KINDNESS!!!

If we thought war was an easy decision, we wouldn't give one fuck, and reach for the best bang for the buck.  We could easily blanket half of iraq with Battleship fire, and a bunch of logistical boats, rather than the expensive air operations we are doing.

By killing only the people we KNOW deserve killing, we are being KIND!

Cuz they don't give one fuck.

55 Right on, WP. What treatment would, say, Hitler, have given Fallujah?

He sure as fuck wouldn't have camped outside for several months.

For that matter, what treatment would Hitler give Canada and Mexico?

56

Tell me that story without some humor or glee at your cheating death and I will admit I am just an unfeeling evil prick.

All of my long winded wickedpinto stories are either me remembering me being in danger, doing something stupid or embarassing myself.

I flesh it out with blatant hyperbole about bit tits, and slutty women, but the foundation is those three things.

57 Hey Bob..Good and Evil.. get it?

58 has anyone noticed that the anti-war movies have stopped coming out of hollywood? seems like in the year leading up to the election, there was a new suck-ass defeatist movie every month.

59

#55

 

WWPD?

what would patton do

60

I've been in a sour mood all day.  Came home from the second job and watched this, and the combination of catchy tune and Taliban bikers getting their due picked me right up.  JC might not have approved, but his vengeful father surely must.  He's been known to smite a few here and there himself, dontcha know.  Just think of it as doing God's work, brother Bob.

If you think I'm being facetious, just google "acid attacks" and you might get some perspective. 

61

DCS how about Saddam?  Or, I can't believe I forgot sirya's owner, as for syria, his FATHER! scheduled assaults on palestinian mosques, killing thousands.  Same with the old king hussein of Jordan, and the current king hussein said something about how he is uncomfortable with western forces, but they are more restrained than he can imagine his forces being.

BTW, other than Iran, you know the boiling cauldron we have to keep an eye on?

Turkey.

62 Boom! Total Protonic Reversal.

63 Turkey could go definitely bad, if the Kemalists ever lose control of the army.

The standard Turkish plotline plays out like this:

1) Islamofascists gain power.
2) Turkish army comes out of barracks, shoots Islamofascists, restores secular rule.

It's happened several times, I believe.

The only thing that's saved Turkey so far is that until recently the Army had a fanatic loyalty to the legacy of Kemal Ataturk.

64 Dead Career Sketch

To give names to the cities that would no longer exist had Hitler had the weapons we have at our disposal today. Leningrad, London and Moscow, The ones he took more easily may have stood today but these 3 would have not risen from their ashes.

65

56 Wikedpinto you and I live the same trilogy,

66

Everyone with any sense of honesty lives that trilogy.

There are a lot of quippy cats, who use them against you, but they can just cough up insults that survive the moment.  Imortal humor is in the ability to mock yourself.

67 Enjoy these videos while you can, after Jan. 20th, all you get are videos of fairies and unicorns showering the Taliban with Changey Hopitude dust. Right out of the Disney catalog.

68

Man, I wish I remembered if it was Aces, or mine or one of ours, who had the "classic jokes in Islam thread."  That was funny.

69 "Yea war is really funny" You're right. It's sad that we interrupted those "insurgents" on their way to perform an execution or female circumcision on a young girl they caught committing the heinous act of going to school.

70 The bitch of this video, is that it wasn't an outtake from "Wild Hogs."

71 bob @ 25,

Have you read the fucking Old Testament?
That God was a really angry SOB who didn't mind some death and destruction.
And Jesus was all about rendering to Caesar's what was Caesar's so the New Testament wasn't all sweetness and light either.

72
There's a time for sober reflection on the inhumanity and terrible costs of war.

And that time is after we've eliminated all the baddies.

73

"I just do not understand how killing people or destroying things would ever be funny."

That's because you've lived your entire life in a society that protected you so well you never had to even consider the possibility of needing to kill someone else in order to survive. The vast majority of people throughout history have not had that luxury, "dying by the sword" was a constant threat, and having the ability to respond in kind was important to basic survival.

It's so easy for people like you to be certain of your moral superiority because you couldn't casually kill another human being, but the simple fact is you would not even be here if not for others who have been willing to take such action. The reality is that you are in fact inferior to them, both morally and in terms of simple capability. At the most basic level you are a coward, totally dependent upon others for your very survival.

And for the record I did two tours in Iraq, and prior to that I did tours in Bosnia and Kosovo, as well as about 15 years in law enforcement stateside, so I have had some experience with violence and conflict.

There's been lots of times I found parts of it funny.

74 That pilot will come home and get a job as a State Trooper running radar on an Interstate. 

75 Murder - the unjustified killing of a morally innocent life.

This video - stomping the cockroaches that are caught in the daylight.

76

Now that was funny.

Because it's true.

77 Umm....referring to #74

78

I don't speak christkiller, so I don't know this for sure, but I recall on the history channel a bunch of crossbuilders saying "it doesn't say "you will not kill" it says "you will not commit murder." which is very specific."

(btw I'm an atheist, and the offensive terms were meant to be funny.)

79 My Dad was in Korea. Didn't talk about it at all until he got into his 70's. I guess the passing of time and friends and ultimately his "child bride" of 47 years finally rang resonantly enough for him to realize that if he didn't tell the stories now, the lessons would be all for naught.

From what he's told me, the current viciousness of the Iraq/Afghanistan conflicts are not much different than The Forgotten War in SE Asia. The motivations are the only differentiating factor.

I almost think it's easier to understand the current conflicts, what with the GWOT being a religious war with the Koran "passed down by Allah" that can be read and understood. In Korea, in the shadow of WWII, the "enemy" were lawless, mostly godless tribal-cum-nationalists caught between feudalism-imposed starvation and poverty, and the glorious liberation of Socialist redemption. A nirvana as described by Marx and Mao, but unread by the illiterate masses.

It was a secular war back then, but the doctrine apparently was the same as it is now. 79 Virgins equated to 79 bags of rice.

One of his stories was of a female prisoner (they didn't call them detainees back then)  who had gained 10 lbs while in custody in a U.S. prison camp (They weren't called detainee centers back then either). As she was being escorted out of an armored vehicle to be released during a prisoner exchange, she spit at the guard.

(Now she wasn't the first to spit at a MP, but at least she didn't strip off all her U.S. issued clothes to walk across the border naked, as had become customary with the North Korean men upon release at the time.)

But in this instance the MP was having a bad day and was tired of being handcuffed by the UN regulations of humane treatment, reacted by slamming the armored door back into the prisoners face, breaking both her nose and her toes.

He then kindly helped her thru the DMZ.

No YouTube back then though. Just untold stories from some forgotten Vets.

There is humor in tragedy, and tragedy in humor. War is hell.

Bikers vs an A10? Bring it on.

80 gebrauchshund @ 73,

I agree completely.
I have not had to live that rough a life but I've been in fights that involved guns and knives and might have been killed BUT4...
It's too easy to believe our lives are precious.
They are not precious; we are one of 6 billion.
They are cheap and easy.

81

Got this from a chick who was working on her second post grad sorta degree in theology.

Matthew 10:34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

82 I guess I'm a neocon, meaning a former  liberal (with bleeding heart) since my first reaction is/was: how do we know these people deserved this.  But, as a neocon, I am happy to see this.

83 Wikedpinto

Being an atheist that hasn't read the Bible is like being a Republican who hasn't read Karl Marx. You can't argue with the enemy on their turf.

These peaceful bible beaters are like Democrats that say they won't tax you. And it's their book that proves it is BS.

84 After a few years, the only things that veterans can remember are the funny stories. They don't remember the long hours standing watch in dress uniform when it's about 35 degrees outside. They don't remember the crappy food and lousy bunks and asshole officers.

At least, they have decided that such things don't make for great sea stories*.

* - You know the difference between a sea story and a fairy tale?

One begins "Once Upon a Time...", the other begins, "You guys ain't gonna believe this one..."

85

Johno1, I was about to be pissed at you at the start of your comment.

My father never talked about his service, nor did every single one of his brothers, or my great uncle (grampa was crazy when I was only 3) Nor did almost everyone of his friends.

You simply knew that they served, but there were no war stories until us pinto boy's were about to join.  I remember pops talking to bro privately about his time, shunning me cuz i was too young.

You can only share the bad shit (I never went through any bad shit/war, my bad shit was politics) when someone might have to face it on their own.

My family is rather martial, but they don't push it at all, in fact ma's and pops were kinda pissed at bro and I joining.  Well, ma's was pissed at us joining, pops was pissed that we weren't officers.

So I can understand that, and the difference between Korea and Iraq are monumental, like, the most basic metric.  Casualties.

We have been humiliating bad guys in war since '76, and it's not all tech, and better medical care in the field, we are just that much better, a FACT.

Only thing this war has in common with korea and "The Nam" (I like tossing that term out there, cuz my mom uses it like it's the most natural thing in the world, meaning that spouses and children had it tough too) is that we won't take the war to where the war is born.

NORTH Korea equaled China, when china was weak.

"The Nam" = North VietNam as a BLATANT logistic base, supplied by the korean's the chinese and the russkies.

and now?  Iran.

Shit is gonna hit a boiling point, and 2 million Americans, (we should actually expand to about 3.5 million) will slaughter 10's of millions of arabs and communists, who just don't fucking get it, while our police forces at home, will get part of what they have wanted for a long time, a change in the ROE for domestic military, until the foreign efforts are finished.

We are living in interesting times, but I guess, that shit is just gonna be interesting in my lifetime, it's the next gen that is gonna be living in an action movie.

86

Buzz, I've read the bible, word for word, cover to cover, from genesis to the last letters.  I just never studied it.

I was raised catholicish, and I was confused about my opinion on faith, so I gave the book of god a try.  Interesting, and lots of stories that are great parables, and a lot of rational insight, but I never signed on.

I'm not an atheist cuz I'm ignorant.  I'm an atheist, cuz I couldn't believe the reference.

87 bob/ernesto/Farmer Todd is a troll/sockpuppet. He posted under three different names in another thread.

88 Wikedpinto
Wasn't trying to convert you and most of my bible reading has been like yours (I think) just you sounded less than confident in the bible quotes you used.
 I'm not converted yet but studying so I've started to catch more of the BS that the Christian mobys throw than I used to.

By the by 85 is a good read.

89 You guys make interesting points, but my point is that we need to evolve our minds to a different level. We are ONLY 6 billion in this vast Universe. That is a fact, God created the Heavens. Every single one of us is important in the World that God created. So do not say life is cheap fuck off.

90 38 The impacts are not projectiles; they're cluster munitions from a missile, very likely one also fired from a drone.

Posted by: Captain at November 18, 2008 11:34 PM (JoMMq)

That is what i saw as well. Definitely not cannon fire.

91 Besides, I can't remember anywhere in the bible where it's mandated for you to feel sorry for your enemy's death? Likewise I don't remember it forbidding me from making fun of the dumb-asses who started the war with us. As a war vet, in a wheelchair, I use humor to deal with what I've seen and done in combat as well as what war has done to me. If anyone thinks I'm shitting them about the wheelchair you can ask the MoroanPalooza.DC or Richmond groups... or WP XBradTC, or Mesa.

92 90 38 The impacts are not projectiles; they're cluster munitions from a missile, very likely one also fired from a drone. Posted by: Captain at November 18, 2008 11:34 PM (JoMMq) That is what i saw as well. Definitely not cannon fire. ----------------- Wrong. 1. That's definitely mini-gun fire. Cluster bombs impact a much larger area, like a whole runway... length x width. Not a small section of road. 2. If you watch closely and slow it down you can see a circular motion to the gunfire. Cluster bombs don't do that.

93 <i> So do not say life is cheap fuck off.</i>

It is the terrorists and anyone that goes after innocents that lower the price tag on their own lives to zero.

We just ring them up.

Ding ding ding.

94 I'm undecided whether it is minigun, 20mm, or GAU-8 30mm. I lean towards 20mm due to the rate of impact and size of the dust clouds. I didn't see any tracer/thermal bloom, but that may just be cuz of the angle. And I can't think of any cluster munition that would impact that small an area.

My suposition is that a Predator was making the video while someone else rolled in and smoked the Tali's.

Paul doesn't have a wheelchair. He's got the worlds wimpiest ATV....

95 Killing worthless life is killing nothing at all? But what brings someone to kill a little girl? That is what I would like to know. Anyone sick enough would just be mentally ill and throw in religion, it is a bad mix.

96 Captain and SlimyBill, you are dead wrong.  That's an A-10 burst with HE rounds (the GAU-8 can fire DU or HE).  The "loopy" strike is a dead giveaway.  The video is from the new IR pods they've installed underwing on the latest A-10s.  The giveaway there is the judder as the gun fires.  The GAU-8 has 17,000 pounds of recoil force.

97 You can also see the variation in flight lines.  That is the gau.  at least in the third clip, don't know about the first two.

98
90
This was the work of the A10 with GAU-8 look at sec 40 the shake in the aircraft video and sec 29 the impact with no flashes then look at this video http://tiny.cc/BPKjK (not same perspective) of a cluster bomb. Both ends impact same time and random between.

99

Lucky is a Concern troll, I wager.

And I almost NEVER target people as trolls, just ask KimClint.

100 It's aggree'd it's a gun Buzz, the argument now is if it was a gau.

101 Ummmm, just....SWEEEEEET!

102

So terrorists take a dirt nap due to gau8, 40mm, clusterbomb, BFG, mini-thermobaric weapons....or second hand smoke.

 

F' it.  They're toast.

103

Electric scooters are off the table.

[ÌíåÏ] [ÈæÈ]

104 100
If it was a gun it was the GAU look at this from a 30mm from an Apache http://tiny.cc/6ew6k and no tracers so not the chain gun.

105 I FUCKING HATE TINYURL!!!!!

106 I take it "i hate immigrants" is a troll, no? Posted by: Benson at November 18, 2008 11:01 PM (qzcNU) Yes! I missed this one. That makes 4 names he has used tonight: i hate immigrants bob ernesto Farmer Todd

107 I believe in the Bible.. and in I Timothy, it does call for believers to pray for leaders of the countries..    and to support the country ( as long as it doesn't interfere with God's Word),.. (to put it as brief as I can)

So, I'll pray for Barack so he won't mess up the country bad.

and I'll support my country by supporting the Troops as they mow down Talibans like, well, like shooting bastards on mopeds trying to flee an A-10.

108 Oops! two more names for our new troll: i hate immigrants bob ernesto Farmer Todd pedro US Dept of Fairness I sux cock!

109 Yea who is that dick?

110 I tried to do the link thing here and keep getting a message that Ace hates me for trying to post long urls. I am a moron but at least I tried.

111 yeah, you have to tiny url buzz.

112

I FUCKING HATE TINYURL!!!!!

Second that.  Just put a link on your words, and then you can see it in the status bar.

 

113 wikedpinto, it was just backwards at my house. My Dad (who was a WW II Mustang (Battlefield Promotion)). Came into my room as I was packing up shit in preparation to going to West Point a few weeks later. He was short and to the point, "Son, if this is what you want I will support you. Having said that, if you go to get a ring; make sure you have packed amd stored everything you will ever need from this house!" I thought for a few minutes and decided that that Sports offer from Moo U. sounded a hell of a lot better. Years later when I was a career NCO, I got to hear all of the War Stories he would never before tell

114 Since we have all these new trolls around here...anti blown' up terrorists on bikes...how about this? Bring up a A 10 to Chicago and light up these swarms of drunken off the boat Polish gangbanger wannabees flying around here on their sportbikes?

Works for me.

115 ...and hit city hall while they're at it...

116 Many a virgin has been sold for a single bag of rice.  Try starvation for a while and you will become enlightened.

The A-10 is an awesome killing machine.  It was the perfect answer to the Soviet's massive armor poised at Western Europe's borders and damn efficient at the job of killing tanks by the score.

This was even before all the new electronic and weapons upgrades.  It's not just for tanks anymore.  Anything that needs killing or destroying is pretty much done for when an A-10 flies over (and a squadron of A-10s flying overhead is a beautiful sight if you happen to be on the right side).  Forget about taking names, DNA analysis is needed after a strike.

The A-10 should be renamed "Teh Awesome Warthog".  Cold steel death from the skies with new, improved pink mist action.

I notice a lot of Darwin candidates posting here.  Suck it up, hippies.

117

Tour de Afghanistan halted due to case of Shingles and 30mm Depleted Uranium shells.

But mostly 30mm Depleted Uranium shells.

118 "You guys ain't gonna believe this one..." No shit, Chief?

119 Hamas Angels????

120

Thanks for the hat tip, DIT, but you totally neglected to feature the Jawa headline that still has me in my bunk:

"A-10 Chases Down Taliban on Motorcycles!"

I love thinking about these goatlovers talking about how "God is on their side"... when they have motorcycles and we have A-10s.  Mofos best be prayin a little harder...

121 Yet again a fine piece of film....if only Hollywood could accept what is GREAT cinema :-)

122

How do they know those are Taliban, and not some kids out having an afternoon ride?  This is a real question... I hate the Taliban fuckers, I just need some reassurance that we're killing the bad guys.  Does anybody know?

123 BTW, it sure looks like cluster bombs, not .50 cals, too much incidiary.

124 This is funny stuff.  Nothing puts me in a good mood like seeing AQ's and Tally's being smoked in multiple-orgasmic fashion.  I have a file of these ... I can watch them all day and never get tired of them.  They always put me in a good mood.

And ... you can't argue that sending these guys to meet their 72 virgins isn't a good deed on our part.  I love it when all sides get a win!

125 A couple of thoughts from a genuine Conservative Christian (who may or may not be concerned):

- REAL Christians don't refer to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as "the good Lord JC"

- a REAL Christian would be saddened that people like those in the video chose for themselves a path of violence and death and lead, ultimately, to their own deat.

- a REAL Christian would also feel, if not joy, then at least 'satisfaction' that there is still justice in this world and that there are a couple less violent, evil people in this world

126 How do they know those are Taliban, and not some kids out having an afternoon ride?  This is a real question... I hate the Taliban fuckers, I just need some reassurance that we're killing the bad guys.  Does anybody know?

^^ They're confirmed combatants in a number of ways - and it depends on the circumstances.  These could be daily runs on bikes by known terrorists - and then someone makes a decision to take them out.  They could be terrorists fleeing the scene of an attack.  They could have been observed carrying weapons on the bike - or there could have been multiple sources of confirmation (and probably were).

Relax ... enjoy the video and have a laugh - you can rest assured these are bad guys ... 100%.

127 Man, that came off WAY more preachy than I wanted it to.

My point was simply to respond to the CCC Trolls, not to make a litmus test of who is or isn't a "real" Christian.

128 - a REAL Christian would be saddened that people like those in the video chose for themselves a path of violence and death and lead, ultimately, to their own death.

^^I identify myself as a Christian ... although I'm not a very good one.  I support the ideals of Christianity and consider all Christians to be my natural political allies.

But I'm sorry - I enjoy watching these guys ride to their deaths in retarded fashion - because every one them wants to kill my kids and yours - and neither my kids or yours has ever done one thing to them (and neither have you or I).  And if it weren't for these A-10's ... these guys might be in downtown New York with a dirty bomb at this very moment.  So yeah - I think this is public service and hilariously funny - cleansing the human gene pool of intolerance and stupidity.  All of these guys had a choice - and they chose HATE.  They can deal with the consequences and if others find joy in their getting their just desserts - I see no problem with that.

Again - I'm not a very good Christian - just a real aggressive one.

129

War stories weren't talked about in our house when I was a kid. My dad was a WW2 vet, I never knew him 'til I was near 6 years old. He and my uncle would talk occasionally, always excluding me.  It wasn't until I returned from my vacation time in sunny southeast asia that he opened up.

 What he told me made my shit seem like a Sunday school picnic.

130 Honda,
As I said after that, that post came off as WAY more preachy than I meant.

I was really only trying to react to the CCC (Concerned Conservative Christian) Trolls.

That said, one must read that last TWO points of my post together.

I'm not saying that it is necessarily wrong (or un-Christian) to celebrate the death of violent, evil people.

But I am suggesting that, for Christians at least, that there should be a little sadness - not for the death of these people, but for the wasted life.

What I mean there is that these people had choices and opportunities to do the RIGHT thing and it's sad that they chose to waste their lives by choosing the wrong thing.

131 Pat Travers comes to mind-If I get 'em in my sights, BOOM BOOM (let's here it) OUT GO THE LIGHTS.  My pleasure is watching moped ridin' taliban dealt death.  thank you  US military.

132 Stupid Americans.  They bring an A-10 to a pipe wrench fight.

133 As I said after that, that post came off as WAY more preachy than I meant.

I was really only trying to react to the CCC (Concerned Conservative Christian) Trolls.

That said, one must read that last TWO points of my post together.

^^Completely understand and I agree.  Like I said, were I a really GOOD Christian - I would also be saddened by these deaths.  But as I confessed - I'm not a very good Christian (though I would like to be).  Until something comes along that changes me - I hate these schmucks.  I hate what they have done to this country and to the world.  They have no right to kill us based on religious ideology.  They have no right to put fear into the free world based on religious ideology.  They have changed our world for the worse.

Quite frankly - I have a seething hatred for these guys.  A very UN-Christian, seething hatred that leads me to take joy in seeing their blood spilled unceremoniously across the mountains of Afghanistan - or the deserts of Iraq.  The only thing I'm sad is about is the fact that I'm no longer out there pulling the trigger to snuff these guys.

I'm not a pedophile, I'm not into weird porno or drugs.  I've never been an alcoholic and I don't lie, cheat nor steal.  My word is my bond.  But I am way overboard on eliminating these cretins from the earth.  Yes ... I hate them.

134 God, I fucking love Warthogs. No elegance, no beauty; pure unadulterated industrial-strength war on wings.

I'd say that the only USAF pilots that are universally loved by the US Army are the 'Hog drivers. At least it was that way in my old unit.

We used to do combined live fire exercises with the AF on the Eielson AFB ranges back in the day. During my first one, I went to the top of a mountain with a work crew to emplace targets. Rifle range silhouettes, scrapped jeeps and Chevy Blazers etc.The top of the mountain was a huge bubble of solid granite, with a few pines sticking out of crevices. The next day, we did an assault exercise up the same mountain. The 'Hogs strafed the shit out of the mountain top (along with our own artillery, mortars etc.). When we got to the top, the solid granite was fucking gone. For a good 300-400 yards around, nothing but dirt.

And for the same 300-400 yards, there were little 18 inch craters densely packed and overlapping, with nothing untouched. Sobering, to say the least.

135 "And in today's traffic report, Taliban Highway 10 will be closed today for some major pothole repair..."

136 Honda,
There is definitely some 'tension' in Christian beliefs between loving one's enemy and hating evil.

We definitely want to be careful of who, what, and how much we hate since hate has a tendency to turn in on itself and destroy the one doing the hating.

That said, we are certainly not to be extra somber over the removal of evil men from this life.

Our God is a merciful and JUST God - and this kind of stuff (the video) just reinforces that.

137 In WWII we sacrificed alot to WIN the war completely.

Ha, ha, ha.  Dumbass.  WWII didn't really end until the Soviet Union fell.

138 In WWII we sacrificed alot to WIN the war completely.

If WWII was completely won, why are our troops and bases STILL in Japan and Germany?

139

Every time I find myself having the slightest shred of sympathy for these murderous scum, I just flash back to those people who jumped from the WTC rather than burn to death.

Then I'm sorry.  Sorry it was so quick and easy.  Let's ban cluster bombs and bring back napalm.

140

BTW, it sure looks like cluster bombs, not .50 cals, too much incidiary.

1. A-10 does not use .50 cal, but 30mm.  BIG difference: .50 cal = 1/2 inch dia.,  30mm = 1+ inch dia.  .50 cal puts a really big hole in you, 30mm puts you in the big blender, and hits "puree".

2. As has been mentioned, the A-10 / GAU-8 can use explosive ordnance, not just DU slugs, althoug it is my understanding the even a DU slug is pretty explosive when it hits something going as fast as these do.

3. As has also been mentioned, the way the pattern "walks" is a dead giveaway that it is a hi-rate-of-fire gun, not a cluster bomb.

ps. Can someone who knows tell me why some naval guns, big ones like 16 inchers, are (or were at one time) defined as being, say ".45 caliber", or ".50 caliber"?

141

Sherlock-

With naval rifles, the caliber refers to barrell length.  IIRC bore x caliber = length, so the 5 inch 50 caliber guns on most of our current DD, CG, and DDGs are 5 inch diameter naval rifles, with a barrell length of 250 inches.

142 Man, if I could only turn back time and join the USAF instead of the Army.  I would work my arse off to fly one of those lovelies!

143

Rom 13:4  For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

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